/GERG/

first for gerg having sex with a spoopy asian skeleton

Because no one made a new bread.


>now with archer builds

Why the monkeyfuck did no one mention the stupidly high ct rt and lt structure quirks the 2r chassis has? It's rediculous.

+22 ct and +15 lt and rt to structure.
+60% accel. and deccel. Rates too ffs.

Why is this considered a shitmech again?

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this is what i'm aiming for, just gotta grind that 5.8 M cbills. the idea being hang back out of direct combat with the lurm doors open and expend EVERY tonne of ammo, then close the doors up and close in in support with the two groups of las.

x2 LLAS in one, x3 ml in the other.
in practice i found the narc just took up too much weight and slots for too little use. hell, with the rediculous tankyness you guys said the archer didn't have i was brawling with it in hit and run style at 400-600 m range with the tag to give insta locks for the missiles and firing with closed doors even with the delay i was getting good hits.

>>162964751
I've never seen an Archer on the field that scared me. Always some dumbshit mixed LRM build with an XL engine to pop.

>>162965086
30 lurms with 720 ammo gives me a nice 24 salvos to drain the magazines dry. I can use that up in a few minutes. Which is the archers' schtick.

And then i have x2 llas and x3 mlas to support the team with too.

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>>162965086
4 tons of LRM ammo won't be enough for a decent match. That's only 720 rounds, or 24 trigger pulls of LRM 30. With no Artemis on top of that, really seems lacking. Half your missiles are going to bukkake into the dirt and you'll wind up doing 250 damage a match.

It would probably be fine for derping around in the underhive and having a good time playing a mid-range support lore build, but its not optimized. Considering you're pumping out 5.8 mill cbills for it...

>>162966205
Putting lrm 20 and artemis yakes too much tonnage.

Would x2 lrm10+A work better?
I could ditch the med las...

>>162966463
Takes. Ffs this phone autofills gibberish.

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Now that the dust has blown over
Are memeguns + famers the new meta?

I can lose a med las and some leg armour to fit x2 lrm 15+a onto it.

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how to find a unit to play with?

Or i can x2 lpl x2 lrm10 artemis with 5 t of ammo

>>162967161
That gives 45 salvos btw.

>>162966972
Go in the mumble in the OP, ask if you can drop with people in there.

What year do Rotary ACs come out? I loved that shit on my Tenshi in MW4.

>>162966463
You don't need Art IV if you know where to throw missiles and have loads of missiles to throw.

i need ideas for what mechs are good in IS FP dropdecks

>>162968814
In Ten (10) real life years.

I need to find a long-range build that's fun to play

Laser vomit isn't fun enough, it's too hot

>>162973004
Dual PPC Adder is "vomit" but fun.

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>>162973004
2ac/2 BJ

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>trying to start up death wing for the first time
>its been stuck on this for half an hour

fug

>>162974165
Yeah. Steam's fucktarded this game in the ass.

Steam sync decided that the only way to replace ONE file that wasn't synced to steam was to reinstall the whole fucking game over the current install all over again.

Valve are conmen with monkeys-locked-in-a-room for coders.

On a side note every freaking pugger is viting for Escort and then not freaking playing it.

>lights don't scout hvys meds and ass's don't focus the atlas if its found and every single one tefuses to assist or support anyone else.

I'm certain 70% of them never even look at their minimap or compass.

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>>162949021
>>162950449

This should shed some light on the subject regarding the keyboard commands acting up.

>Some of the default keybindings have changed. You actually can't change between advanced and standard with keybinds at the moment, currently it must be done from the options>gameplay menu. Part of the reason for the weird behavior is that we are currently in the process of changing Advance/Standard control modes from a "setting" as it currently is to using our new keybinding profile system. We will provide default profiles for both Advanced and Standard keybinds and players will be able to create their own profiles as well. Ultimately, the new profile system should make managing control modes much easier as well as clean up some issues with the current implementation. I've also just pushed up the priority for updating the tutorial commands. Doesn't help to have a tutorial if it doesn't tell you the correct keys to press! =]

As far as the jump jets go, you can get some extra height on them for clearing that section of the tutorial by just double tapping the spacebar without using directional arrow keys at the same time. The directional jump jets don't get the same clearance.

>>162974536
>every other game on Steam doesn't work like this
>must be Valve's fault
???

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I got the early access thing for heavy gear.

Is it worth installing or is it complete garbage like most early access crap?

I always loved the first 2 games.

I put an LBX AC2 and 6ML on my third Stormcrow

It's pointless compared to regular laser vomit, but I like it.

My other builds are 6ML + 2SRM6 and 6MPL

every motherfucking pug is running lurms. You assholes lied to me. Every single match its 20 million lurms taining on everybody.

>>162976649
Suppose it depends if you want to offer insight into the direction the game goes in the next year before the full release. One thing to consider is that there will be the ability to host servers with custom house rules which basically means if players don't like how the Gears and weapons operate on the official servers, they'll be able to alter the stats to make the gameplay the way they want it.

Medium Lasers give me a boner
I wish I could run 12 on something

>>162978216
hello clanner scum.

i bet you think 12 c sml pl alpha striking 'scouts' in fw doing 60 dmg every other second is 'fair' and balanced

>>162978545
? ? ? ? ? ?
What part of Medium Laser has the word Clan in it? Get over yourself.

>>162978618
that fact that you want to autistically minmax boat 12 of the fuckers

>>162977807
>play 5 matches in a row
>haven't seen a single lrm

You're full of shit I guess

>IS doing shit because waah waaah IS XLs and waaah waaah clans get all the mechs
>totally forgetting the beginning of the year when it was literally 4 months of IS heavies and all clans had was warhawks, dire wolves and executioners

Where are the Black Knight, Mauler, Grasshopper, Enforcer and Zeus heroes? Hasn't it been like, almost a year since these were released?

Where are all the meta IS heavy and assault mechs supposed to provide adequate counters to Kodiaks, MAD-IICs or NigGyrs? New 'mech releases are at this point booked all the way to APRIL 2017. A third of all possible mechs for the year are already known.

is 2goose 1bepsi niggyr best Mech on game?

>>162981462
neg

>>162981813
Why are you lying though

>>162981813
>>162981826
Because it's not. It's got good pin point damage potential, but it's slow as molasses, is large so has easily defined and easy to hit torso sections, and no quirks whatsoever so it's only go the base 92 total hitpoints in a torso section.

How are Shadow Cats in pubs? They seem fun if you want to run LPLs or LLs.

>>162983475
Shadowcats are extremely player dependent.

Good players who know how to abuse the MASC for maximum mobility do over 1k damage regularly and can actually cripple entire lances by themselves. This is with LPL or ERPPC builds, that is.

Streak and SRM brawler builds are fine, but due to the nature of having to expose yourself to enemy fire by getting close, you're more likely to take critical and crippling damage before you can get away with MASC boost.

>>162983951
Cool. And yeah, the Scat didn't look like a brawler to me; it's tiny, has MASC/ECM/JJ taking space, and only has a few hard points, seemed perfect for long range harassment.

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Alright guys, I won't lie here--I haven't played MWO since...fuck, when were Black Jacks and Thunderbolts introduced? Since then. I played through the bad times of Raven swarms with ECM and AC/2 boating. I played through the age of AC/20 K2 Catapults.

Has it gotten any better since then? Are the Clan mechs worth it? Is my time better spent fucking around in Overwatch?

>>162984618
It's gotten a little better.

Clan mechs are worth it, they're generally tougher to use but offer greater rewards in terms of damage potential than IS mechs. They're expensive at first, but IS mechs incur hidden costs when it comes to optimization.

>>162984873
Adding onto this, Clan OmniMechs are extremely forgiving in terms of experimentation and optimization, no spending 8 million Cbills for an engine, no being locked into a variant's hard points, lots of room to tinker to preference or meta shifts I have no regrets at all selling all my IS stuff to pick up a Timber Wolf as my first Clan Mech when I came back.

Why do kongers not have one good monitor + 2 medicore ones for shitposting

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After spending around 6 million bills into trying to make the Centurion (my only 'mech thus far) they just gave everyone better, I feel as though I need to invest in a "meta" 'mech. This Centurion just isn't cutting it, and I'm not having much better luck with the trials.

Any recommendations for someone sitting on 18 million bills? Been looking at the tier list, but thought I'd also ask you nerds.

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>>162985480
>>162984873

Good to hear on the Clan mechs. Have the mechanics gotten any better? Is it still a fucking grindfest to get any sort of upgrades done on your mech or buy new parts? Do you still have cuts to your endgame payout from repair and maintenance?

>>162985816
Timber Wolf, Ebon Jaguar, Stormcrow, Nova. Pick one.

>>162985871
Of course it's a grind. You need c-bills to buy upgrades, weapons, engines and whatnot.

Repair and re-arm is gone, so the better you do, the more you earn.

Only faction warfare has a small cut in rewards for the extra victory bonus if you're playing on a faction that's overpopulated.

>6ML and a goose
Why didn't I think of this sooner
Time to buy a new stompy robot

>>162985942

I grabbed the EBJ on the suggestion of a friend earlier today

I picked the C variant.

Feels so good, such a versatile build.

>>162987201
kmp

>>162983475
ECM clan medium

of course it will rape pubbies

Hows this for a warhawk?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=404&l=48544e821523b992d15b22b53f133d7b64e5b518

okay fuckers you win

I'm gonna start playing clan in FW because playing the underdog isn't fun. I'm gonna use the best equipment and be on the winning side.

>>162989689
Hey guess what

just because you go clan doesnt mean youre gonna win. youre just gonna get farmed like the scrub pug you are by is groups

>>162989689

Switching to clans won't fix the fact that you're a complete shitter.

>>162989971
>>162990223
nuh uh

>>162990353
enjoy spending dozens of millions of cbills on clan mechs only to find out that it was all true.

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Jesus Christ, am I sick of getting stuck with a 8-man GBKP group. Every time I drop with them on my team it's a loss because they can't pull over 300 damage, so there's nothing me and my buddy can do in our HBK-IIC-As despite pulling 700 damage each on a Crayon Network skirmish.

Same thing with DHB.

Sometimes I wish the community on this game was as toxic as in WoT. People are too nice to each other so it lets that kind of shittery run rampant when you have those faggots taking company command and giving out the most shit strategies imaginaly.

> "Okay guys let's all just hold a firing line here in Frozen City and snipe the other side"
> "Okay guys let's back ourselves into a corner on Viridian Bog and get shot from two different directions."
> "Okay let's Nascar around the volcano on Caustic Valley and leave the assaults behind"

Every time, like pottery. Maybe I should just change the time I play so I don't run into the same 20 people playing at 9AM EST.

>all the crying on forums that meta IS builds require XL engines

Geez. It's like none of them realize that that gigantic running speed is only good if your build requires you to keep running across the map. And it's not like every fight doesn't start off with running to meet the enemy, then turns into trench warfare.

Even the Zeus can do some fucking nasty builds with a standard engine, if you can stomach it not running like a fucking medium.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=258&l=f4005fa32ca92ef44a9cf756e2a97a6fa2a3ed75

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>

>>162991360
Well obviously it's an 80 toner, you dumb fucking nigger.

>>162991463
> (2.00 Free)

>>162991605
2 free tons you can allocate how you want.

Either up the engine or put in more SRM ammo. Or drop 1 ton of ammo and put in another heatsink and up the engine.

>>162991605
Are you fucking retarded or something?

>>162991712

>I'm too lazy to finish my builds.

>>162991872
Well shieet nigger, didn't know you had to be spoon fed like a retarded baby.

Here, knock your teeth out. But be careful not to swallow them now, little 'tard.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=258&l=173efd6b6c0f6d34f9860464e0bc4bbf9e18066c

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=276&l=79c4963c6cf0a391c07871cdcdc32efef29385ab

ultimate meta

>>162992120

Now this build is complete shit.

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Someone please tell me Im in a alternate reality
https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/241777-new-gold-mechs/

>>162992285
I agree with Johnny Z, bronze or copper would be really cool.
Or some kind of pearlessence, or a titanium or chrome.
Mmmmm... shiny and chrome.

I can fit 6 x mpl and x2 srm6 artemis on the 2r archer for a close up build. Or even x3 srm6 arty. But that means less mpls

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Jesus saved that from being a page 10 meme
Where 2 fuk is everyone
Also on discussion of /gerg/, should we update the OP info?
Armored core has their own thread at >>162600396 and has been like that for a long time
Hawken is kil
The bushwacker is still in OP's title since >>162158251
And I dare say it, the kongkast has been dead for a while too
Maybe update the Kanajashi's video tutorial with the playlist (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEc0AL2THTbdrLfayW-CgGGLb7-F_dXpC) instead?
Just looks silly tbher's family

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>unbasic'd AWS-8R
the meme magic is real. still lost because it's slow as fuck and the fast movers refused to cap.

>>162994838
Were you lurm memin' it or something?

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>>162994661
New then OP then, use this from hereon out:

/MechWarriorGeneral/

Heavy Gear, Not Welcome Here Edition

MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries - Expect The Pig
http://www.mw5mercs.com/

New /mwg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
https://clanjadewolf.net/mwll/
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

How to start MWO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imffSrJ4O7s

New Player's Guide to MWO (aka the Manual):
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

Rough Ride your new forklift here:
https://mwomercs.com/roughneck

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEc0AL2THTbdrLfayW-CgGGLb7-F_dXpC

Group Mumble Info:
kong.stepoff.com
port:7777

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>>162995135
Of course, my man.

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>>162995315
Bretty good

Someone should edit this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zHmeTeLgMY with pic related

I am lurm memeing and its doing surprisingly well actually.

I am also ofc using my earnings to have an srm splatboat setup ready. But shit. My archer 2R is FUN.

I JUST got a match where everyone on my team was at least attempting to play together and the 2R got me the supply cache. Because I'm not running just lurms i actually have x2 llas and a tag backing them up. I was even brawling in the open (with closed ofc) lurming shit at 450-600 ish metres as i tag washed shit and llas'd em good.

The lurms slag the armour sections rather well and let my llas punch through. Pretty well.

And above all. It's FUN.

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>>162994657
How yuuuge is the engine you're stuffing on there?

Because I can easily fit this.

>>162995407
hah, cool....I should try this, I'm like a little babby with my 2xLRM20

>>162995646
Xl 300 man. I know i know xl inna hvy etc. But it lets me lay down the hurt.

And the 2r has great quirks for spread dmg etc.

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>>162995756
You should. This is just ridiculous.

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>>162992285
>>162992541

>paying premium space bucks for the visible spectrum in 2017-1

>>162995940
Yes. Yes it is ridiculous, and what's even more ridiculous that people aren't expecting rain these days either.

Would you happen to have a build handy?

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>>162996082

>>162996082
>>162996190
This takes everything special out of it though. Now you're just a faggot.

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>>162996127
This is what I've been using. Hot but you rarely get a chance to just keep on firing until the heat would become a problem. And if you do, just flush the coolant.

>>162996768
I like it, thanks for the advice and build!

>>162996768

>54.7kph

enjoy being killed by a locust while your team leaves you behind.

>>162964519
Returning player from 3-4 years ago here.
How do you do offline botmatches in MWO? They added the features at least 2 years ago but can't find the button for it anywhere in this shitty new menu/UI. I just wanna do some bot matches before playing against xbox live kids.

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>>162998520
>How do you do offline botmatches in MWO?
>offline botmatches

>>162998520
I think the closest there is to that, is going into Academy and engaging the bots across the water NW. I dont think they move, but they at least fire back

>>162996768
>no artemis
Also LRM15s are old news, robuts boating 20s are the hottest of meta after PGI made those two have the same size of spread.

>>162998840
They march up to like 90 meters and then start firing.

>>162999234
Ah, ok...been awhile since i bothered to dick around with them

>>162999508
I'm really surprised that PGI hasn't put in SOME kind of AI thus far, there's been plenty of dev interviews saying they've been working on it.

When can we expect the next bit of news for mw5
>Inb4 Soon®

>>162999849
yes

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the heavygear forums are down and every time i try to log into the game i get some Response is not OK: 400 error

the hell is going on

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>>163000018
heh
After rewatching the video for mw5, it surprises me that a raven with an srm 4 can knock down a building in one salvo, but a shadow hawk cant blow a hole clean through the raven with one ac blast

Really makes ya think

>>163000397
Thinking mans shooter

>>163000320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU

>>162998840
Thanks, i'll pick fights with those guys for a bit, turn off VoIP and just pretend like the online matches are bot matches.

Guys is the Marauder IIC p2w?

>IS bitch about XL engine vulnerability
>Battlemaster can easily run 4x LPL with a STD 325 and 19 DHS
>Or even 5x LPL with STD300 and 17 DHS
>Or even 6x LL with a STD310 and 18 DHS

Wow, it's like, Nigger Sphere really needs to learn to build their mechs or something.

>>163003335
Or they could just run lrm machinegun erll Atlases as usual such as their role model Baron Fucktard with his custom mech in obscure battletech novel #132, and keep complaining about quirkless clan mechs and clan XLs being overpowered.

>>163003056
YES

>>163000320
The main page redirects to the steam page for the moment, and can access the discussion forum there. I think the regular forums might be getting an update during the downtime.

>>163003335
MAKE INNER SPHERE GREAT AGAIN
GRAB EM BY THE PELVIC ACTUATOR

>>163000320
they're using the steam forums instead for some reason

>>163004106

thanks, i always forget steam has game discussion pages

>>163003335
>Battlemasters

Hellslinger gets 50% environmental heat reduction quirk and can run all of those. Or even 3x LPL 2x PPC for "Lol 53pt alpha" nonsense. AND gets both shoulder mounts AND quirks for it.

If I block people, am I less likely to run into them in game?

>>163006083
neg

How does dual guass on the marauder iicA with 4 med lasers sound?

>>163007990
put pepsis on it instead of med lasers for max damage alphas

>>162996082
>>162996190
Gold and copper really are nice colors for a robot.

The machinegun changes coupled with the VND-1X's 30% RoF quirk makes me want to get one.

I never see any vindy's while queuing which makes me think they're not that great and I should stay away. any pilots that can speak up for them?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=208&l=798f48f9106f576cf31a72120397c5b27e94f3e2
This was my first pass at it, probably shit but whatever.

>>163009397
>I never see any vindy's while queuing which makes me think they're not that great and I should stay away.

Really makes you think

How can I tell if I own two of the same mechs?
Cause I got the marauder IIC hero and standard pack, and in the skill tree I see "Owned x2" on the Marauder iic but not on the other marauders I have
Is it safe to sell the marauder iic cause I might have two?

>>163010931
What...? This seems like something you should be able to tell real easy.
Are there two of that mech in your mechlab?

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>>162980174
Warhammers, Grasshoppers, Black Knights, Battlemasters, and Maulers are completely viable counters if they're built for FW properly. But pubbies aren't going to commit to ER Large Blargs and Negro Bannerets so they will get goose pepsi'd by mechs that can't even poptart and have restricted torso twist forever.

>>162996082
Don't act like I've never seen HGA's fucking pricing model

>>163011240
No, I only see a single Mad-iic and the other variants, but in skill tree it says I own two

hello?

>>163011504
People already forgot their broken infinite laser vomit mechs and dakka maulers. And then they expect me to believe IS mechs are super underpowered just after piggy has got done heavily nerfing pretty much all clan weapons and their best mechs, just because the IS fags for some reason stopped playing their deathstar meta builds with a hundred large lasers on shoulder mounts.

>>163014017
nice

>>163011813
post pic

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kONG lords dropping

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>>163015297

>>163011504
There's quite a difference in spending cash on individual playable units and shelling out $500 for a shiny gold shader on one Mech, or locking RGB values behind a paywall.

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>>163015752

>>163015752
>>163016151
You have the Mad IIC and IIC(S), so you bought the more expensive collectors pack, not the standard pack.
So yeah, you have two Marauder IIC's, painted puke green.
Congrats.
Sell the standard one.

>>163016216
>Doesn't like lime green

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>MAD LRM

>>163016006
Is that supposed to be better?

>>163016396
Just testing it, and guess what. it's disappointing

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>>163016450
Having the ability to select 16,777,216 colors and 31 flavors of surface materials for no extra cost? Yes, that is better.

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>>163016396
Are these names better?

>>163017304
kek

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>>163017034
Yeah who the fuck wants gameplay when they have a colour wheel

>>163018168
Can you use that wheel as a control input device?

>>163018168
It's good to know that there are people that think paying for colors is objectively better than having it be a standard feature.

>>163019493
Pepsi Savant

How do Ultra ACs work in terms of player control, do you just click twice despite the cooldown? Is there anything stopping you from clicking 3, 4 times and bullets coming out (assuming it doesn't jam)?

>>163021848
You click once and it jams for five minutes.

>>163021848
Everytime you click when the weapon isn't completely off cooldown it has a chance of jamming.

If you do something extra stupid like click immediately after firing, you can jam and the jam happens immediately so it can even interrupt your bigger uac burst which have a firing duration to fire all of their burst.

As long as you don't molest your uacs they work great.

>>163022169
Oh, ok. Cool.
I'll try out something like this
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=280&l=c5d1ae435f4c7de4b33c1427efeb2f682dae5a4b

and switch to Gauss/symmetrical if the UAC10 doesn't play too well. Just want to try out a new weapon/layout.

Why are spheroids such babies?

>>163025154
Because they've been the favoured child for years by the writers of battletech.

Now they're developed a complex where they think they're as good as the mary sue characters that populate the battletech novels.

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4 kakos and whispers

FUCKING ASSCOURT AGAIN REEEEEEEEEE

>>163026284
Why would you put the goose in the arm instead of putting the gauss on one shoulder and two pepsi on the other?

>>163027040
humps

Good IS Units to join?

pugging is a lost cause for the IS side.

>>163027937
Are the humps generally considered to be good or bad?

>>163027937
>not wanting sick periscope guns that won't be blocked by terrain ever

>>163028447
For FW? You don't wanna do that for IS. The good units are clans right now.

>>163029336
If you only have 3 weapons people will aim at humps sides

How do I report people for being bad at the game?

>>163029805
non participation

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>am tier 4
>light mech
>500 damage
>3 kills
>1kmdd
>no skill rating change
but why

>>163029504
Several units are switching to IS, though. Most of the Shitter Sphere pugs quit FW/ CW/ metamech circlejerk already.

Last phase of this shit was a tie.

So is there any hope for Mechwarrior 5 or is PGI going to find deep rooted CryEngine problems there too?

>>163030812
>units switch to IS side to meme with the tonnage advantage
>pugs cry again
Can't wait

>>163028473
you lost.

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>>163028447

>>163031226
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>163031118
Welcome to 12-man premades that get to run Battlemaster + 2x Grasshopper/ Warhammer and a Cicada.

Or Warhammer + 3x Thunderbolt.

Or Mauler + Thunderbolt + Thunderbolt + Oxide/ Firestarter.

It's all fucking downhill from here.

>>163031569
Full dropdecks of IS death star heavies are back on the menu boys, what a time to be alive.

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That feel when 100% of your side torso crit slots are filled with Goose rifle and your only other weapons are on the same side arm

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Behold the last one alive but still only did 130 damage meme

>>163032501
Maybe fix your mech.

>>163032697
# Just Tier 5 things

>>163033002
>cUACs
>fixing anything

>>163033403
Where did you get cUACs? Just move your Goose out of your torso so it doesn't blow your arm off when it dies.

>>163033540
What makes you think I can

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NICE

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Behold, the power of the Kong Lords
https://youtu.be/1Fit1PGPmIQ

>>163034818
Those mw3 sounds though

>river city night
>shooting black targets on a black background in normal vision
>0.5fps in night vision

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Why is the Sarna schematic for the Ebon Jaguar so wide? It's ridiculous.

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>>163034818
>MW3 sounds

Very nice.

>>163034818
god, MW3 was the best MechWarrior
the Mechs just felt so... so MECHY.

Why are there so many maps in the Testing Grounds, but only like 8 in the Quick Play pool? Why are they all wasted? I want to play these maps.

>>163035421
>Why is the Sarna schematic for the Ebon Jaguar so wide?
Because the Nutbladder Jaguar IS really wide.

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>>163035421
Because it's a wide ass mech.

More like a Nova than a Timberwolf.

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Behold the standard engine Marauder IIC-A meme

Should just drop with this, a standard engine Kodiak, a Mist Lynx and a Kit Fox to blow the fuck out Nigger Spheroids

>>163038007
oh god, it's real
lmao, wow, i don't remember it being that wide in MW3, 4 or O. that's crazy

I wish there was a numerical way I could see how much tier progress I'm making per day. The bar moves a little, but outside of taking screenshots or huge win streaks, it's not obvious if I've gained or lost progress unless I outright count pixels.

>>163038340
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

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WTF i hate my team now

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>>163038090
That's because in MW3 they lifted the torso out from between the legs on the Cauldron Born, just like MWO.

Neither mech should be able to torso twist with their design, but in the games they sometimes lift them up to do that. in MW3 the blackhawk could not torso twist (neither could puma.)

>>163038056
>Inner Shitteroids have just got done posting yet an another XL engine whine thread on the forum
>they get memed on by clan std assaults
>have to be committed to an asylum because their fragile minds can't comprehend it

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>>163038498
MWO also pushed the jenner up for torso twisting.

>>163038498
Oh, I didn't know the Cauldron-Born had Blackhawk Jet Syndrome. It couldn't twist at all, it was ridiculous.

I do remember the 270kph flying MASC Striders with 16 Medium Lasers on "Ice" maps, though. That and Flamers instantly exploding enemies if you hit them with the puff balls.

>>163038972
Yeah, the 16 flamer puma was fun.

Most play was just C5 UA ICE. So either Avatar/Thor with 3 UAC20s and MASC in one unarmored arm, but some people wanted to be special so they'd use a 2 UAC20 bushwacker.

>>163035421
>>163038007
>>163038498
>>163038749
Let's be honest, these look like ass.

>>163038448
I don't want to be in Tier 3 forever :(

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>>163039363
MWO Jenner looks okay compared to old Jenner, but MWO Black Hawk and Cauldron Born look not great.

>>163039363
Most of the older stick-man robots looked like crap, Wolfhound and Commando being two obvious ones that you just can't fix.

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>>163038498
It's surprised how few polys you need to make a Mech recognizable. MW3 sure added a lot on the texture front though.

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>>163039623
No.

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Kongdrops happening.

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>>163039763
That's not great, and it doesn't look enough like the actual mech. I didn't even recognize it when I came back to MWO.

>>163039630
Wolfhound can be cool. They didn't have to animate him so stiffly.

>>163030613
You lost.

>>163039837
>posting pics of GONK getting stomped
that's not ok.

>>163040387
Rare image?

>>163040541
No. Not if fatts is dropping with them. Statistically he's worse than dashing.

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I finally snapped today.
I start the match off in an Assault mech. I'm doing 70kph in a straight line for over 30 seconds at the match start. A centurion walks into me, as usual, because he's faster but can't see. Whatever.

I unload 2 ER PPC's, 3 ER Medium lasers, and an SRM 6 streak into his back. His rear armor's stripped and his CT core is cherry red.

(him) WHAT THE FUCK MAN?
(me) I give Korean drivers no mercy. Learn to drive.

I'm just tired of the shit, you know? I know it's just a game and the damage he did to me is minimal. I just can't fucking understand that ONE guy who has to play bumper cars at the beginning, like, every time.

>>163041937
>playing PS2
>running in the open plain 6 miles wide alone
>see a teamte on map driving up to me
>neat i dont have to walk anymore
>get run over
REEEEEEEEEE

fuckkk, not polar highlands /again/

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oh
that's okay pgi, i wasn't playing the game anyway

How do omnipods work?

Kit Fox as example.

One variant has ECM, can you put an omnipod that contains a ECM hardpart on other Kit Fox variants?

>>163043841
You buy the Godhand arm and swap it into any variant.

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>>163043380
>This build

>>163044067
Does this mean all omnimechs are potentially exactly the same?

>>163044382
The Clan Heroes are broken as fuck when you can just swap in the Omnipods you want or you can just run the same build outside of the CT on every variant.

>>163044382
The CT can't be replaced. You only get the quirk if you use all 8 onmipods from a single variant.

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Is the victor a meme?
It looks like an 80 tonne atlas

>>163044160
6
ton
crit
seeker

>>163044625
It's the fusion dance of the Centurion and Trebuchet.

>>163041069
but fatts wasn't the worst player in that match.

>>163044497
You can't buy extra hero omnipods on their own. You'd have to buy an extra hero mech to harvest the omnipods from.

>Started with the Catapult C4
>Made it a brawler with SRM's
>Bought the Catapult K2
>Stuck PPC's on it
>Just got the Catapult A1
>Gonna put LRM's on it
This way I have a nice bit of diversity between my catapults

>>163043841
another thing to keep track of are the jump jets that are a part of an omnipod. In the kit fox example, that's the S legs I think. 2 jets per leg.

More or less if you buy the S variant and the Prime (jump capable and ECM model) then you're all set. The third can be whatever if you're intent on mastering it.

>>163044625
Victor is bad at brawling because its missile racks are mind meltingly fucked.

>>163045161
And that's what makes them p2w as fuck, when you buy an omni hero with good unique pods you can combine them with anything you want. And of course you can't buy the pods without buying a hero.

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what a shit team

>>163039630

i like the commando

>>163045781
axel doge loved his shit metal babby too, but it was still a metal babby

>>163041069
it checks out, dashing has a higher KDR and avg match score

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>>163045506
>>163044896
Thanks my dudes, I guess Ill stick with buying the Wolfhound

>>163039630
>>163045781
Commando was the starter 'Mech in MW2:Mercs, which is why badasses motherfuckers love it.

>>163044160
It's my special homebrew :)
I know it's worse than an LPL but I hate having a shield arm that's nothing but 5 heat sinks. at least the LBX2 looks cute and let's me fit an extra sink in the torso

It's that or an ERLL

So will PGI shit on you if you spell out fun shit in decals?

>>163046283
nice shitbuild

>>163046484
thanks!

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baka @ clay

Escort mode, promoting goose + pepsi builds and lrm boats
Literally whoever made this needs a slap, should of Just made the player the Atlas instead of the atlas walking across Tourmaline desert to be wailed on the enemy who are protected by rocks

>>163045506
>people used to complain about missile cancer
>now they complain about a lack of missile cancer

kek
russ was right

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>>163047708
>pile of random misaligned boxes
>lack of cancer
This is LRM50 by the way.

>>163048153
lmao, what the FUCK is that?

>>163048348
It's the curse of the victor. It was too strong for too long and now it must suffer for all eternity.

>>163048153
no bully victor please


t. victorr pilot pilot

>>163042625

>playing PS2

y

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>don't even have enough ammo to carry these shitters

>>162995315
put the hwk links back in pls

>>163050832
But its dead family
Deder then ded

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I need like, mental brain help. I keep thinking there's almost-good reasons to run shitty vomit meme builds over meta vomit builds.

I guess I'll run wubs again; meta build with best burn time, best DPS, hurt the least by losing the shield arm and tied for best alpha.

>>163051014
so is the rest of the general, you torso-twisting zombies

>>163051356
how is the dps calculated?

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Kongdrops™ happening

>>163053651
Smurfy's Sustained DPS check should just be a raw Damage /per Heat /per Second vs. the number of sinks (dissipation) installed, but I didn't code Smurfy

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bump

What is /gerg/'s opinion on UAC20s?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=281&l=aa0727887f242abff878bf382c41bc2de6b408b7

I want to use this for 94 damage corner pokes at ~300m.

>>163054932
>doesn't understand spookyheats

>>163054932
Just use LB 20's

>>163055015
fuck
alright, i didn't know the spoopy heat was at fucking 2 combined.

>>163055015
Do UACs become spooky against themselves if you tap too fast? Can you tap tap, wait 0.5 seconds while the MLs burn, then tap tap the second and hide while it's jammed to hell?

>>163055498
No weapon generates ghostheat against itself.

>>163054932
>UAC20
Legit one of the worst weapons in the game now. LRMs are literally better than UAC20

>>163055667
? ? ??
worse than LRMs? i find that immensely hard to believe
bad, okay, but worse than LRMs? how???

>>163053831
better klord than fatts

>>163055905
It was already turboshit with the absurd ghost heat limitation, slow projectile speed, massive damage spreading because it fires a burst of 4 shots that do 5 damage each, and the burst fires so slowly that it increases the fuck out of the weapon's facetime requirement AND reload time compared to the single-shot IS ac20. The IS 20 weights a fuckton and takes all the critical slots in the universe but atleast it works against targets that aren't afk.

And then they made it jam more often and for so long that you'll be dead before it unjams because it's a close-range weapon.

>>163056232
>spoopy heat
>slow projectile speed
>inaccurate shotgun burst
>higher than normal uac jam time
Ah, okay.
Thanks for explaining, I think you swayed me away from testing it for curiosity's sake.

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So is the MWO still so fucking small we simply can't queue up for the maps and game modes we want to play?

>>163056441
>inaccurate shotgun burst
It's actually worse than a shotgun burst. The shells have no random spread, but they come out the gun one by one, which means you have to look at the target longer and lead all the shots on moving targets. The LBX autocannons are the shotguns, but it's an instant snap shot, you can decrease the spread by getting close and it'll make mincemeat out sections that have no armor left because it has bonuses to critical hits.

>>163056816
They come out one by one? Jeez, okay. That also explains why the "Dakka" build just uses UAC5s, which I'm assuming have faster projectile speed and less bullets in the one-by-one deal.

Is the LBX20 really doable? 7 shots per ton of ammo seems like a huge crippling blow.

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>>163057028

>>163057028
You only get 7 shots per ton with the IS AC20 and it has consistently been one of the best brawlie weapons in the game.

CLBX20 is a decent gun. Not optimal, but you're not looking to go compete in some shitty tournament. You're just looking to slap some tier 4 dicks around. The LBX20 will do that just fine.

>>163057952
IN THE NAME OF KANE

Rather Dashing is my favorite Kongling.

>>163057979
Cool.

Wish the Ebon J could fit more than one though, the arms are one crit short to fit them in.

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kong2stronk

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Aight, so I'm relatively new, and have come to the conclusion that I much prefer using ballistics over lasers (I find leading and tapping much easier than holding beam on a spot, desu.) What are some good general builds I can go for? I'm currently running a Jagermech 6-S with 3 UAC5s.

Related, are the UACs a newbie-trap? On-paper, faster firerate = moar DPS, but I find more often than not I jam one or two and end up backing out of an engagement.

>>163059306
HBK-IIC with 4UAC2

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>>163059192
Is that Rutherford Darshing the legendary Klord?

>>163041937
At least its not the
>be standing still in cover to avoid return fire and have ass/hvy ram up you ass -match
Or the
>sucessfully peek and alpha an enemy mech then get blocked from retreating to safety by assramming ass/hvy that makes you eat multiple hits as you have to retreat around the tard brain.


Pugging is suffering.

>call out ouflankers in the gridsquare.
>fuck retard pugs ignore it leave you to die from the assault lance marching accross open terrain up your teams ass then watch everyone wtf as they get buttfucked to death.

>shooting an assault in HPG under the small ramp gaps that are on the center-ish pyramid
>try to back up
>friendly Hellbringer 100% just parks his ass right behind me while i'm using my small space to corner peek
>tfw get legged because of this fucker
>aim directly at him
>Legendary Founder tag

I shot him in the head.

>>163059306
You should run the 3uacs on the Jager-DD

>>163059910
Good.

This needs to become stadard practice accross the entire playerbase.

If i fuck up. Fine. But to die because some retard on my team fucked me over. No.

Shitters must face reprisal every single time they fuck up if they're ever going to learn.

Ive had to many matches where instead of kepping wonderful unmolested armour I've had the front melted to slag because of assholes buttfucking corner peekers.

Hell. Half these assholes can't even drive out in the open.

One of my best matches was crimson straight or river city, the one with the covered two level area intersection of saddle and tunnel.

The enemy team clumped up into both bottlenecks so we all basically strafe walked from side to side of those fire lanes

Except in between the nukings i kept having to drive into the oylons or walls because I'd turn around a stationary team mate or a retreater etc so i didn't run into ir block them. And then the fucker would turn any way and run into me on fucking purpose. So instead of eating only a few hits and raping the enemy dead i ended the match armless legged and crit hlowing everywhere with most of the team also dead from being retards who can't drive.

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>meanwhile in mumble

>>163060035

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWrkvHW_O7o

>>163059629
Half the time I die because I go fuck off on my own with my kreb for flanking and tagging fun, and to get a different view were I don't get spotted and have to trade as often, and half the time it's "hey guys they're all coming from overrrr heeere, followed by thiskillsthecrab.

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>Theres an actual crouch animation for mwo
>PGI doesnt implement it
What did they mean by that

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468 damage while running backwards the entire time

>>163061135
I've been wanting crouch so bad in so many games. They made it but haven't used?

>>163061264
Yes in tutorial cutscene when the thunerbolt falls out of the ship[ it drops on one knee

Do Targeting Computers not effect Ultra ACs? Or, why do the Dakka UAC builds on MetaMechs not use TCs, while the Gauss+Laser ones do?

>>163061001
I do sometimes die by being dumb. But usually its because I'll be on a flank with another guy or two and I'll call the outflanked when a full lance of ass's start rolling it up and thevteam will just ignore it. So our flank dies and then the rest of the team gets buttfucked.

>>163061264

Along with a few melee animations.

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>601 damage
>4 kills
>No premium time
>Only 161k cbills
Really fires up them neurons

>>163062669
Use splashy weapons like SRMs and LBXs so you destroy more components naturally

My win rate is much better now that I've stopped using that LBX AC2

I wonder why?

:)

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You guys ARE scouting right?

>>163063551
no

>>163063551
I've never done it, should I?

>>163063654
It makes meme builds viable.

See 507 damage 2 kills on 2x C-SL and C-LBX-20 with 3.5 tonnes of ammo on an Adder.

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Kongdrops™ happening

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Kongdrops happening.

My favorite part was when my team demanded the lights to run all the way back to base to defend, but the direwhales still continue towards the enemy base
Rly fires up them neurons

Are queues slower if you pick Heavy/Assault instead of Medium or Light?

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>>163064252
Actually
>"Its an Assault expects lights to escort them" episode
>Its an "I need locks lights get them" episode
>Its an "Better run back to base lights. Oh you are on the other side of the map? Too bad go there now" episode
>Its an "Fucking useless lights" episode
I am a t. insecure light babby. But at least Im not a filthy direwhale

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I want to be the biggest tryhard ever in quickplay.

What mech and build should I use?

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Kongdrops™ continue

>>163063718
>>163063551
>mfw im sitting on 30k exp on that badder and just realized i never even spent a single one to basic it.

>>163065418
Gauss Vomit Timber Wolf

>>163065418
pick one near the top
http://metamechs.com/mwo-tier-lists/solo-list/

Tou guys told me lrms and the srcher were both shit.

I just got 2 matches in a row of pug suffering.

>that didn't suck ass.

I kept the doors closed and nuked so many components with tag'd lurming and llasing backup at 300-600 m it was glorious. I got like 10 saviour kills from supporting my hvy brethren and the assaults.

I'm having FUN too.

The tag in the ct being at the very top of the mech means 3/4 of the time I'm tagging someone over a curve blocking my mech and out of los lurming them.

Sovyeah. You lied. Lurms are useful and fun.

>>163065732
You must love being in T5 huh anon

>>163065418
Kodiak 3
Timberwolf
Clan shit in general
Any build from metamechs - mainly anything with LPL's in it

>>163065732
you're a fucking retard

>>163065534
A hellbringer with gauss, eh? Yeah, that might be fun

>>163065534
>the CERLL+5ML Stormcrow build I conjured up is on MetaMechs exactly way I picked it out
Fuck you guys, you said LPL was better

Do you still get your C-Bills if you leave a match after dying?

>>163066021
The banshee looks great. x3 ac5 and x2 llas looks freakin neato

Can two more variantd of the banshee be built similar to that for mastery?


>>163065764
>>163065975

As for you two i am also saving cbills and buying the standard medlas boating and srms splat build too.

Lurms are just nowhere even close to as bad as you /gerg/ guys say they are.

>>163066417
Yes. There's no req. to stay.

>>163066436
they are

>>163066436
k keep us posted when you get to tier 1

>>163038498
The lack of the ability to twist beyond a few degrees didn't matter so much because MW3 weapons tracked the reticule no matter where it was aimed. The same thing could have been achieved in MWO if they put any torso weapons on gimbals and linked them to the arm reticule instead of the torso crosshair.

>>163066729
But that would be fucking retarded

>>163066729
I could understand stuff like mgs and sml las being gimball mounted but how would you build a big enough gimball in a side t to say, give a goose or a Pepsi any degree of swing at all beyond maybe 5 degrees?

>>163066729
MW3 torso weapons would not fire whereever you aimed in free reticule, they had firing arcs and if you moved the reticule far enough the torso weapons couldn't fire.

>>163066729
The loose mouse reticule was one thing, but the 5 degree twist was a huge weakness regardless. It's effectively limiting your aim to the 80 degree cone in your front, instead of the 270~ish degrees a twisty mech would get.

The Blackhawk was NOT meta in MW3, not even close. (the smallest thinnest twistiest mech was the best per 5 ton weight class)

I just want to comment that LBX-20 in scout missions is beyond broken.

>>163067309
Not as bad as the 6 c sml pl ohko builds

>>163066980
Well yeah, everyone would run in circles around you and the best you could hope to do is walk backwards and turn with them.

Also, Avatar best mech ever.

>>163065732
I've only been playing since September, am just tier 3.7 (closing in on 2 finally), but here's the deal on LRM"s.

The rate of fire is slow for the amount of damage they do.
People in tier 4+ will have saved GXP for radar derp as their first module and use it in every mech. Which you should be doing too.
People breaking Line of Sight now make your missiles useless.
You can politely ask team mates to hold locks but fuck all if that ever works.
You can move forward and get your own locks at which point you're simply better off using direct fire weapons, because of the first thing I listed.
Or you can try to make LRM's work for you while some shots hit, some will miss, all will be at a slow rate of fire, and your team mates are counting on everyone else to inflict damage at the same rate that they are capable of.

LRM's as a primary weapon are trash. And quite honestly, they're more or less garbage on every other mech as a secondary weapon. If there was a mode where they could be used as a direct fire weapon like table top battletech with correct rate of fire and flight speed, then life would be better - but we don't have that.