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/xivg/ - Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward General

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>Starlight Celebration (December 15th - December 31st)
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2016/The_Starlight_Celebration/

>Free login campaign (December 1st - January 4th)
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/7f6f03825f75fdb71701f7ad9f68cbf4d8ab3bca

>Tokyo Fanfest (December 23rd - December 24th)
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/34e70073fb0a9d3f7059d05394abe5faf882f0a2

>Patch 3.45 Notes
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/c55a99e864094c0c7dfcbde0fa35bd9fda60dfcb

>Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXXII and XXXIII
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/3ee28e9c3569e2c7be7212675e20a99641370d8d

>Stormblood Expansion Teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAobb8_SzHY

>Resources, Guides, Free Companies and Linkshells
http://pastebin.com/raw/YcEBGQWu

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>>162901293
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finally a new thread post cute cats
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Elezen are best~
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>>162954365
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I want to marry an elezen~!
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>>162954464
>>162954394
needs more diaps
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaJfuG0Rhq4
>tfw no Aces emote in ffxiv
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>>162954531
shirou...
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reminder to thank your squadron
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PLEASE help me with a9s

PP in pf
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What needs to happen in 4.0

>Parry is now called riposte and deals a percentage of damage back to the target
>Cover now drains MP and is toggled like Cleric Stance
>Divine Veil no longer requires the middleman
>Halone debuff is switched with Storms Path debuff
>Dark Arts can now proc Reprisal
>tempered WIll is now an AoE buff

What will probably happen

>Parry has been removed
>Halone potency increased by 10
>Clemency potency increased by 100
>Dark Dance and Raw Intuition can now only increase evasion by their respective numbers (30% and 100%)
>Tempered Will now cures blind
>WAR gets Inner Beast 2 which reduces damage taken by 40%
>WAR is no longer able to use IR but Berserk is now on a 60s cd with no pacification penalty
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puttel
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>>162954789
hey
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>tfw friend moves to server without letting you or anyone know

wonder why, we were cool n shit
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>>162954860
nobody here likes you lol
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>>162954894
i like me
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>log in
>someone from balmung recognized me
>offers his friendship to me once more, knowing the monstrous shitposter I've become
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk6FShZBUB4
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hey bois
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>>162954757
>DRK could have been a DPS
>get raid breaking tank instead
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>>162954394
They are my favorite

>>162954464
That'd be the dream

>>162954757
This and Scourge are my two most favorite DRK animations for sure
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>>162954996
hello grown men
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>>162954365
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i quit this game, does anyone want some holiday art before i go
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>>162954394
>>162954464
>dreaming of abducting FOUR elezen
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Are there any skin colors that are similar to in game dye colors?
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>>162955170
i can smell the grease
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What happened to soft?
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>>162955226
Any specific four, or just four elezen in general?
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>>162954682
do raid finder
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>>162955152
you should fix your bike tire so you aren't pumping it constantly
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>>162955183
draw a cute boy lala trimming his feet
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>>162955343
Fuck you, that made me smile.
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>>162955351
i mean trimming his toenails
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>>162955301
for clears it never pops
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>>162955391
its been said before, they probably just stole it
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>>162954365
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>>162955459
I'll queue, how many people do you need and what role?
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How do I turn on recursive filtering?

Can't find it in the settings
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>>162955351
??????????

nothats weird
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>>162955563
by shutting up idiot

reported for not game related
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Which tank or healer requires the least effort to reach their important cross class skills?
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>>162955590
ok draw a cute catboy trimming his toenails
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>>162955183
Draw a lala wearing a Santa hat
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>>162955665
Paladin. You dont really need Stoneskin at all so for Conjurer you just need to get to 15. From WAR all you really need to consider is reaching Mercy Stroke.
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>>162955660
Uh okay

Anyone else know how
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>>162955801
Recursive Hiding: Hide replies of hidden posts, recursively.
Under filtering
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>>162955263
what happened now
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>>162955527
We need 2 tanks, 1 dps, drg would be good if you're coming dps. Queued now for a9s, duty incomplete, for practice first phase because of chests

thanks a lot!
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theres a high concentration of grease masters here today, i'm getting acne just reading some of your posts
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>>162955272
In general, of course, that's what elezen are for!.. BUT! I super like that pale one that used to be Highlander. Face3/4 is my favorite. Also Etie. And there's one with black eyeshadow, but it looks like they've changed to Duskwight.
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>>162955884
Probably absolutely nothing
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>>162955870
Thanks
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>>162955665
all healer and tank roles need at least one subclass to 34 for max potential
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Don't worry /xivg/ your Queen C@ has arrived.
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>>162955971
Sorry, I'm terrible and don't approve of monarchy
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>>162955941
Nigga...
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>>162954365
Christmas c@
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>>162955970
>paladin needing stoneskin

I mean maybe you can find an obscure use for it in savage raiding, but generally speaking I forget its on my bar.
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Who real Behemoth niggas here?
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>>162956176
I wanna marry this C@! I wanna make it a tail warmer! I wanna pet its droopy ears and rub its cheeks!!
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>>162956203
As a healer, I actually hate when a PLD stops to stoneskin himself. If I wanted you to have stoneskin on, I'd put it on you.
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Is there any catches to the free playing up to 96 hours worth until January?
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Let's talk about jump potions and how they will save FF14
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>>162956329
You gotta play FF14
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Is it just me or is everything really slow today
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>>162955913
queued as tank with another tank, but I don't think we have your group. Did the required roles change?
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>>162956456
It's been pretty slow this week, I think. Yesterday we kept a thread for 12 hours.
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>>162956419
They won't have any noticeable effect.
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>>162956425

I did, I have Heavensward too. I just let my account run out because I was low on funds.
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>>162956456
Everyone's panicking because Christmas is next week, so they're too busy doing almost-last-minute Christmas shopping
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>>162956456
many of the shitposters got banned
its been like this since yesterday so im sure the thread will return to top cringe by the end of the weekend
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>>162954365
Even the boys?
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nope, we're at 0/2 2/2 3/4

make sure you go for practice, also aether?
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>>162956456
reply farmers got a 3 day ban finally
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>>162956419
Was really REALLY disappointed when I realised "Jump Potions" didn't mean I was gonna be able to leap from one end of Western Coerthas to another pedaling my legs in the air like Luigi the whole while.
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>>162956176
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how the fug do I know when something is a "big fish"?
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>>162956667
just popped
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>>162955684
have a nice holiday
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>>162956696
If you want the authentic Luigi experience you have to fall back down head-first
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>>162956758
Green text green icon. They are usually on the far right of the fishing guide too.
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>>162955183
>>162956856
So long and take care, art anon.
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>>162956758
The noise the tug on the line makes is a really crunchy creaking sound (I assume it's meant to be your rod bending like crazy). It'll also vibrate like crazy if you're using a controller. Very few don't do that.

Lastly if you're sitting down and the big fish catch is successful your character will leap to their feet to reel it in.

For general classification, big fish are almost always the last fish on a fishing hole's list of fish, often (but not always) have green text, and when you catch one your Big Fish cheevo tracker goes up by one.

>>162956881
Only if they make it so I land in a snow drift with my legs sticking out Hildebrand style.
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This game won't survive 2017.
Mark my words.
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Anyone else watching the OW regionals
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jumping elf
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>>162954365
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>>162957081
too bad you never got to commission him of your character shitting into diapers huh
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>>162954894
i love putty
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>>162957214
What do I win in the event of you being wrong? This is important
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>>162956758
Theres three tug sounds. The last two are considered big fish. Theres a single small tug. Then a longer, strained tug. Finally (this is usually for the rare fish only) a huge tug that sounds like the rod is gonna snap in half.
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>>162957392
1 (one) free husband.
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>>162957236
No, I'm staying up because I make poor decisions and want to watch the Dragon Quest X/XI stream, though

>>162957447
Can I exchange this prize for something else? I don't want a husband
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>>162957514
We also have a nice selection of cakes.
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>>162957629
Seems like a good prize. I accept, now I just have to wait until 2018
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>>162957732
>>162957514
red posts
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>>162957629
These better not be urinal cakes or "buck cakes" I ain't falling for that one for the eleventh time.

>>162957782
You're off the mark!
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>>162955971
Hello queen /bow
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>>162957732
Prepare to be cakeless.
>>162957831
What the heck is a buck cake?
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>>162957963
I was making a bukkake joke but then I checked google and found this.
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>>162956176
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>>162955971
That's a pope hat, are you sure you aren't the head dope?
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>>162957423
It's not really for "rare" fish exclusively. There are a bunch of reducible fish that have it too, there's no way you can tell me pteranodons are rare.
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>>162958065
Damn that's a good cake.

>bukkake
What the hell man I just googled that and it's disgusting. Why would you write that filth?
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>>162958126
ugly ugly ugly
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>>162958201
That's the joke man you think "Eyyy a cake" and it's not a cake it's a trick and you suffer long lasting trauma and you regret everything and it's not funny at all and you lay on your floor for hours staring at at the wall.
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>>162958181
I guess not. I just rarely see fish that have that weight unless they have some kind of gimmick like mooching or rare spawn times/weather.
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>>162958126
I am.... Nega Santa....
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>>162954365
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>>162958663
Can I lift it up some more...
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So... how hard do you guys think the new 24-man raid will be?
Do you think it's going to be a filter for mechanically-incapable players like Mhach is now?
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>>162958726
no
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>>162958740
who the fuck cares? what a useless post
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>>162954365
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>>162958740
I wish, but it'll probably just end up mindless because they probably don't want to risk people crying about wiping endlessly. Really they need a 24-man where the entire thing is just a series of Ozmas
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>>162958845
yeah post more about gc fucking faggot
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>>162958921
oh no you dropped your contact
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>>162958845
No, YOU'RE useless!
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>>162958935
I'm guessing it's going to be a little easier than Mhach, for better or for worse. Hopefully the fun factor is more long-lasting, but.. I don't think it's really possible to make content like that into something that'll remain fun after the 10th run.
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>>162959141
As long as they don't manage a Syrcus Tower or Void Ark repeat, I probably won't complain too much
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>>162958740
I'm not even sure what setting they're going to use for it. I guess we're going to fight the queen of the voidsent?

I'm hopeful for something fun, even if it's challenging.
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>>162959115
that's about the face i'd actually make too
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>>162959229
...What's the story sofar with these raids, anyway?
I haven't paid any attention at all. I have no clue what's going on with them. Is it interesting?
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>>162959373
It's lore stuff about the war between city states a few centuries ago
big magic war between white magic and black magic
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I want a waifu so badly but i don't know how to meet people on balmung without becoming an avatarfagging attention seeker...
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Been having some weird ass fucking rubberbands lately, is anyone else having some issues, especially in dungeons?
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>>162959605
>attention seeker
You've already got that step out of the way, kid.
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>>162959373
I hate the second one. The big sphere boss always trips me up
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>>162959373
Basically how it went was:
- We met with GOOD Sky Pirates who wanna get treasure out of the Void Ark which is some big holder for all the arcane stuff Mhach had.
- Seeing as the Void Ark was made by the Mhach civilisation so everything is powered by voidsent, with its primary source being the Queen of all Voidsent.
- After we whooped him in Amdapor City Diabolos came to the Void Ark too and was regaining his power and letting all the Voidsent out.
- We learn from a Cait Sith wizard's familiar all this stuff more or less after Diabolos takes the giant queen coffin, uses the main cannons of the Void Ark to shoot a hole in reality (I guess?) and escape.
- Dumb eeeeevil pirates gank our thingy that lets us track the Void Ark's energy at the end, and when the Mhach city raid starts they followed the thingy there and mostly got eaten cause Diabolos is there again trying to capture a weird philosopher's stone mcguffin that has huge amounts of magical power in it.
- We get the stone and decide we gotta stop Diabolos.

And eventually I guess we're gonna use the compass to find out where they are and try to sort this shit out.
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>>162959373
it's marginally interesting. i wouldn't buy it if it was a separate game but it's worth watching if you have literally nothing else going on
i guess
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>>162957214
well, everquest's 23rd expansion just came out, they're still charging money to play ffxi. pretty sure this game is good to go for another decade. feel free to leave bieber fanboy.
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>>162959678
irony
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>>162959795
red please don't respond to him anymore
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>>162959887
But I LIKE Lore chat.
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>>162954365
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>>162959795
I see...
I guess I'll try to remember all of this when I go into the next raid and see where things go from there. Hopefully the conclusion is decent.
>>162959862
There's no irony, shortman, as I never claimed not to be an attentionwhore.
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>>162959795
Diabolos has been a real interesting guy this time around, at least
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how do you deal with burning out?

I enjoy teaching casual players and wiping more than raiding with my farm group at this point and it feels weird
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>>162959605
You can join me and we can go get a harem purge the cat niggers all in one day.
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>>162960068
Yeah, I'm wondering if his motivations involving the queen involve rescuing her from her coffin, or using her as a means to an end for more power for himself.
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>tfw you realize casual erp shitters are both saving and destroying the game
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Downloading the game right now to try the trial, what's the edgiest i can be?
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>>162960608
male miqote white mage
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How do I sit on top of a bed
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I wonder how badly this place would trigger my allergies.
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>>162960608
You can't be the true edgiest without having the expansion (Au Ra and Dark Knight).
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finally a new thread post cute pumps
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>>162960934
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>>162960934
wtf why did you copy my post and change one word
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What's the fastest way to get decent gear after getting a new class to 60. I've got an ilvl 231 DRK
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>>162954315
>Amber
>cute
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>>162960069
Become a mentor for all the right reasons and help out new players/casuals as much as you can?
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>>162961154
buying savage clears every week
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>>162961154
Spam Aetherochemical Research Facility for lore tomestones. Use the lore tomestones to buy gear, and upgrade your lore gear with Void Ark/Mhach tokens (if you're lucky enough to get into those at a decent rate.) Also, run all the level 60 content that you have yet to complete and reap your lore bonuses.
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>he dyed his starlight robe black
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>>162961182
that's kind of cute desu
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Also, for some reason my RF queue for A11S is at 1/1/3.
First phase practice, duty incomplete, Primal, etc - if anyone's interested.
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>>162961182
ayyyyyyyy
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I hate how the dream hat does not match the starlight robe. And i hate even more that the hat dyes like shit and doesn't keep the white brim.
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>>162961182
Looks by far better than you, Kiss.
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>>162961308
Red or Hunter Green are the only acceptable robe colours
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>>162962095
kiss looks like an inbred mountain troll
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is there anything more pleb than a house in the mist
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Hey! Can you guys post some of your favorite theme glams like cosplays or sci-fi or trashy 80s fashion? I'm trying to get ideas for stuff.
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>>162962098
what about white?
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>>162961308
I dislike Christmas.
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>>162961182
>amber so mad about kiss breaking up with him that he's resorting to posting his own ugly ass face to lure kiss back
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>>162962208
yes, having a house literally anywhere else and also not having a house. in fact, is there anything more pleb than not having a house in the mist?
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>>162962315
>sci-fi
the Alexandrian sets have you covered~!~~!
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>>162962381
https://youtu.be/5ysfQjKKi70
fuck you
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>>162962381
I'm going to Christmas so hard at you.
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>have connection issues with NA datacenters
>decide to fuck around on a JP DC
>create a chocolate femroe on Tonberry
>have a ton of fun doing early quests
>already almost level 20 just from dicking around
I forgot how fun this game could be, prior to being forced to interact with the playerbase.
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>>162962791
You're welcome to try, too bad I think it's a shit holiday.
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>>162963124
cringe
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For a variety of reasons I don't feel like having my house anymore, currently in the process of clearing out furniture.
Anyone know what a Medium in Mist on Balmung is worth? Ward 1 plot 37 if it matters.
Also any of you interested in buying it?
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>>162963124
*pan'handles you*
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>>162963124
Then I'm going to nice the fuck out of you instead.
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>>162963124
That's what you get for being a turd.
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>>162963371
probably anywhere from 2.5 to 3 times what you paid originally, maybe a bit more because it's in the mists
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What time do you think I could get into Gilgamesh?
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>>162963593
Rood. How about you alrighty then.
>>162963515
Probably not worth the time involved.
>>162963372
reeeeeeee[/spoiler[
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>>162964171
5AM pacific time seem to be a constantly open time. So sometime around there.
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>tfw happier than you've been in years
I hope this feeling doesn't end in the next 3 months!
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When do I use Fish Eyes?
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>>162964436
Thats excellent since my alarm is set to 8EST anyway.
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>>162964507
yes
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>>162955941
Last one sounds familiar
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>>162964507
When http://ff14angler.com/ says you need it.
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>>162961197
Is it typical of a burn out to be tired of farming raids, but yet be enthusiastic about teaching the very same raids to newbies?

Is it the change of pace, or am I just afflicted by something other than a burn out?
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Can someone please explain to me how gathering scrips work? I seriously don't get this.
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>>162964876
go gather something and turn it in for yet another god damn currency to spend on worthless shit.
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>>162964940
What do I gather? When I speak to both the NPCs for scrips they tell me I'm not qualified or some stupid shit. I'm level 60 with all quests done.
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Soft or DRAKN?
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>>162965007
Pick up the quest in MD that you haven't completed.
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>>162965007
There's an NPC in mor dhona that will unlock it for you, right next to the tomestone ladies.
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>>162965013
DRAKN to play game and make cozy friends. Soft for ERP and maybe raiding.
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>>162964735
Nope. If you've given up on the rat race of ASTlogs and don't really care for speedkills/challenge runs/sales, helping people out is a very rewarding, it's what I do with 90% of my playtime.
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>>162965173
How do I go about joining, just send in an application?
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>bought a 5 pack of fantasia with gil
Oh yes.
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>>162965285
Yes
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>>162965173
How about for someone who spends all their playtime on the bench?
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>>162965398
Soft if you're a lewdster, DRAKN if you like to pretend to be nice/non-lewd
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>playing the shit out of For Honour and having a blast
>almost making me want to play DRK/PLD but then I remember tanking sucks

Can't we just get a one-handed sword DPS . . .
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When does the 3.5 come out?
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>>162965510
Early January.
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>>162964460
It's false hope
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>>162965505
Well, I did have a cute c@ call me a lewdster a few times but I don't agree.
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>>162965509
on what platform
I'm poor and missing out on everything...

also you're wrong because drk is fun
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>>162964163
MUMU IS SUPER CUTE AND SUPER NICE

grats on the mount
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>>162965593
Well enough time to grind and get my gear level up
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>>162956176
looks like an aria clone
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>>162965756
PC Alpha. Duel mode incredibly fun. The game was really frustrating to me at first, but when you approach it as a fighting game it's extremely fun. If I had to compare it to another game, I'd say the closest thing is like an over the shoulder Soul Calibur.

I just don't enjoy tanking, sorry.
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>>162956176
>Moni was Lily all along
>>
>Stuck at level 47 between the level 46-49 MSQ gap.
>Tired of POTD. No more Northern Thanalan fate groups.

Do i have any other options outside of leveling roulette once a day?
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>>162966145
Levequests and company quests
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>>162966145
Unsubscribe.
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cant wait to finish this fifth of vodka and get on the highway
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How much do rank 8 FCs go for on Balmungo?
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>>162966332
hey make sure you run me over when you crash into something.
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>>162965110
>>162965129

I swear I did this quest. The person next to the Poetics vendor. I feel retarded :(

Do I also need a disciple of hand?
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>>162966767
nah that's it's own shitty currency.
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>>162965704
There's no hope directly involved with my happiness.
Just the hope that it doesn't end quickly.

Good night shortmen~!
I sure hope Warframe is fun.
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>>162966816
I don't even see it under my currencies. I really must be retarded.
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>>162966875
Just what I needed to see to relieve my stress today. Thanks eppy
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>>162966893
It has it's own tab next to General and Battle.
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>>162965335
how?
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>>162966145
Aurum Vale, I guess
If you're 'mung I can help.
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>>162966145
ur gonna do potd and ur gonna like it
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>131 minutes in PvP queue

REEE I JUST WANT TO KILL PEOPLE
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>>162967469
someone else here likes sam hyde? what server plz
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>>162966102
i really liked sc2/5

oh well, I'll play it when alpha is over?
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>>162966875
Would prefer to do that to the glasses you wear.

Shitty NIN question. Whats the standard opening for Ninja? Im mostly not sure of what skills i should use before hitting trick attack. I feel like i might be doing it too early and wasting time using other skills when i could be doing my normal higher damage stuff.
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what should my graphic settings be if I want to look good in screenshots?

which ones are the most important?
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>>162967574
But you can already
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>>162968534
>>
I really like the smell of aloe vera
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So someone on /v/ was saying that (with a thread linked) a few hours ago that in the next expansion or patch that they plan on adding level 60 pay jumps among other things. Is there any truth to this or what? I only really enjoy FFXIV because the chill casual grind knowing that I raised my character.
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>>162968982
yes
why does it matter though
just don't use them
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>>162968982
no, it's level 50
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>>162969050
Well whats the point then at all of leveling up naturally? Also I think the fear comes from WoW doing it, thus the game going farther into that direction.
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>>162968982
Level 60 in 4.0 will be like Level 50 now dude
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>>162969221
so you don't have to pay money and you can still enjoy the leveling experience/story if you really wanna?
this is for people who don't want that
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>>162969050
>lol just dont use em bro
People already don't know how to play this game when they actually have to level. This is only going to make the shitter scourge even worse.
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>>162969221
>hey come play this MMO with me
>hmm ok
>but you have to spend 100+ hours going through 2 massive campaigns of quests before we can even enter the new zones on top of the exp grind
>oh
It's just not alt/new player friendly at all.

>>162969341
Actually, you could argue existing players will use them just as much, adding more jobs/characters to the playerbase.
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>>162969221
You can still play just as ever, people who don't feel like playing catchup or just dislike the grind to 50/60 can pay money. What they spend money on is ultimately their own business, though. If you don't want to, simply don't. The point to leveling normally is that you do not spend money on something ultimately pointless. If you enjoy the satisfaction of a grind, then even less reason for you to spend that money
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>>162965841
stop this
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>>162969221
they're already ability pruning, they're following sub trend purely because wow is still successful, yoshi goes to blizzcon. yoshi saved this game purely by turning it into a casual wow clone. bit too late for going farther into that direction.
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>>162969618
nigga you fat and got a tiny penis
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>>162969724
They've -claimed- that they're ability pruning.
Nothing YoshiP says is true until it happens.
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>>162969221
Even if they are adding it is, people are still gonna gonna have to go thru the MSQ.
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>>162969851
There's a separate potion for that, actually

One for instant Level 50 Job with some gear(60 in 4.0)

One for instant completion of ARR MSQ + all relevant duties clear(will be up to 3.5 MSQ in 4.0 obv)
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>>162969935
Ah hell no, Make em suffer 2.1-2.55!
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>>162969851
The ones on the Chinese store acre actually split up into 3 potions. One book for lvl 60 job, one for MSQ, and one for job quests.
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>>162969724
So am i alone in wanting them to ability prune a little? Or at least find ways to open up some hotbar space.

It would be nice if they were able to combine some skill combos into one button or something. Like Edge Gust and Aeolean into one skill slot that changes depending on the stage of the combo. You can still have Armor crush and whatnot be separate skills. But Even something small like that would be a nice help in clearing some clutter.
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>>162969835
they've already shown hotbars without skills in videos, it's happening, get over it

>>162970209
nah, i'm for it, and they specifically stated they wanted to do it so they can increase the difficulty threshold for raids.
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>>162970445
How is that going to work
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>>162970571
by making raids more difficult? they said they've had to intentionally hold back because rotations became more complicated in HW.
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>>162969472
I enjoy the lore and some parts of the game in the earlier stages require teamwork. I'm not against the potions I'm just afraid that new players that don't want to use the potions will be isolated entirely among the servers because they decided to enjoy the stories but can't proceed because they are left to an insane amount of grinding.
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/11893265
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>>162970896
You didn't add an option for indifference
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>>162970651
>by making raids more difficult?

Id like a different difficulty other than 20 raid mechanics going off simultaneously and convoluted shit than we have been seeing. The last two end bosses have had some seriously dumb shit.
>>
Alright boys and girls. The time is now for me to roll a character in my second playthrough of FF14. What class should I play since I have high ping? I get maybe 200ms. Ausfag is suffering. I played black mage before, was okay but the lag was noticeable
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>>162971331
ninja
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>>162971331
come to tonberry
use wtfast/whatever
play a healer
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>>162971426
Nice meme, but I did a bit of research and ninja is the worst class to play with my lag
>>162971543
I'm playing on the PS4 so i wont be able to use WTFfast. I have used wtfast in the past but it only reduce my ping by 50ms. It's not that great.
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>several months without the desire to fantasia
>starting to feel the itch again
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>>162971642
play whatever you want to play. 200 ping plus console gamer, you'll get hit by everything anyway.
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>>162971642
then come to tonberry/other jap server if you arent already
wtfast/etc arent going to reduce you from 200 to 20 ping, but 150ms is viable for all endgame content so
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11893303

Now with an indifferent option.
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>>162971727
now with still useless poll, they're being implemented. daddy squeenix needs more money for ff7 remake and ff16.
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rate my giraffe
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>>162971767
You'll get FF16 in 2027. Square Enix already said they haven't even started on it yet, they're also too busy with FF15 DLC episodes. That and not showing the Switch version of DQXI until after January.
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>>162971809
Would eat greens together with/10
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rate my lizard
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>>162971706
>don't like my lizard at all
>crank height to 100
>change eyes to blue
>change nose
>achieve absolute perfection
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>>162972360
>face 1
throw it in the bin with the other two billion
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>>162972360
spuki bugi
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Anyone on Balmung want to do Expert roulette ?
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>>162972695
>bothering to do expert at all
unless you raid there is no reason to suffer doing it
>>
>>162971719
>>162971723
Arcanist or Conjurer ??
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>>162972854
up to you, i prefer scholar if im going to heal but each to their own
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>>162972829
I enjoy playing the game and doing dungeons is one of my favourite parts of it.

Also evne if we ignore stats, there are a lot of very nice looking items that you can only get with Scriptures, and I would like them. I'm very behind this week on them, 150/450. I also need to complete the daily quest for my Singing Cluster, I'm only 8 away from finishing my second Relic. I'd buy them with Lore, but I need my lore to start stockpiling on Umbrite for my inevitable third relic.
>>
thirty
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casting lots of fire iv is really cool
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this picture represents the current state of the thread
>>
So, this thread is impressive and really red. Post what you're doing ingame
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>>162973971
same
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>>162974116
evie...
>>
My name is Kirito Tia. Feel free to message me.
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>>162974062
im sitting in uldah because theres nothing to do at 2 am
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post santa's little helpers!!
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>>162974301
Nice phonepost.
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>>162974301
Oh I'm anything but little

;)
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>>162974473
What did he mean by this?
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>>162974473
This poster must fuck off to neko sentai, jannies.
>>
How am I supposed to feel when I slog through progression, spend time in raids, and clear the current tier after practicing enough to have it on farm only for a friend to ask for a carry?

I obliged, and he's been getting a9s-a11s through the RF weekly because duty complete isn't half bad. I don't believe he deserved the kills I got him.
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>>162974528
>he says as he posts with yet another new IP
>>
the new (?) janitor is weird, only comes around for a bit per day and relentlessly bans then disappears.
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>>162974915
Janitors cannot ban, and all they do is delete posts
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>>162974915
Delete != Ban
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>>162974915
He's doing a great job. Avatar and lewdposting is at an all time new low. I hope he never leaves. The last 3 days were amazing.
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>>162974957
i'm very skeptical there were no bans judging by the surge of new ips
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>>162974618
It's a friend, and the other people in my static are also his friends. It'd create this weird case of discord if I didn't help.
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So my friend just purchased the full game after playing the trial, but it turns out he was playing the Steam trial and bought the non-Steam full game, and apparently they're incompatible.
Is there any way to just switch it out for the non-Steam version, or will he have to return the first order and place a new one separately?
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>>162974473
Elezen arent as tall as you think they are
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>>162974986
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>>162975046
well you are the one helping him with 'undeserved' clears so its all on you
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>>162975026
You know, you could look at the ban list. None of those were bans, and janitors cannot ban
>>
tribute?
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>>162975015
>I'm doing a great job.
>I hope I never leave.

Fixed
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>>162975173
the banlist doesnt show every ban and isnt immediately updated
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>>162975230
I hope he never leaves.
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>>162975247
It's updated every hour and this has been going for longer than an hour.
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>>162975097
6'4" to 6'10" is pretty tall, m8.
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>>162975097
They're tall enough

>>162974549
That's a shame

>>162974515
It's a mystery.
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>>162975170
Thanks for listening to my little rant, I feel a bit better letting it out
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>hanging out at the quicksand
>no one approaches
ugly...
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>>162974631
keep posting.
need people like you to put these tripfaggots in check

>>162975835
stfu idiot
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>>162975865
do you even understand what a trip is kid?
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>>162975851
That elezen should sit next to another elezen
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>>162975851
I'd say hi and come over, but I'm not on Balmung.
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xivg has undergone The Hotpockalypse before and came out fine, nothing will be different this time.

>>162975851
I just ignore anyone who approaches me to be honest.
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>>162975092
The latter
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>>162976048
>Hotpockalypse
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>>162975851
>want to be a dumb helpless victim
>no one approaches
ugly...
>>
>>162975851
>afk in QS reading people's RPs for laughs
>people try and include me in theirs

Stop, I'm reading, not participating, that's why I don't have the RP tag on.

The amount of times I get sex-related tells is also disturbing.
>>
>>162976706
>put rp tag on when I'm fucking around with my friend for laughs (not literally) on Gilgamesh
>log off for the night
>log back in, turn it on, forget about it
>keep getting tells all fucking day about this RP and ERP shit
I didn't know this was actually used as often as it is.
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>This
>Taking away Yshtolas beautiful eyes
>Iceheart
>Alphinaud still not dead

MSQ what's happening
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>>162976803
put some clothes on, harlot
>>
>>162976834
Things are actually happening.
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Elezen
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>>162974208
go to bed anon
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>>162976987
Why is that face + hair so top tier?
>>
post FESTIVE HOLIDAY BOYCATS
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/11893303/r
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I just got full ironworks gathering, how do I into melding this?
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>>162977159
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>>162977159
My boycat is dead
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>>162977612
I couldn't tell you even if I wanted to. I have no back story or anything. I guess that's the first step huh
>>
RP is part of the game and it's getting removed even when it isn't legitimate shitposting.
That's actually going too far, shithead.
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>>162977848
imo character first then backstory. no one cares about your backstory or living out your anime fantasy.
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>>162977869
Sh anon we arent allowed to criticize our supreme rulers now are we.
>>
And then the game got weird.
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i like elezen
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>>162978930
hello?
>>
Okay real talk. Linkshells are pearls, right? I asked some other people how they functioned and someone said you just shove that shit right in your noggin and go to town. How do multiple linkshells work? Is everyone running around with a bunch of marbles rattling around in their heads?
>>
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>>162979069

i always imagined them as earrings or clips, i could be wrong though
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>>162979086
>>
>>162979069
linkpearls in xi were basically considered earrings
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>>162979069
I imagined them as small pearls that kinda attach to the inner fold of the pinna on your ear. I dunno. I doubt we're putting Eorzean pearls up our brains.
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>>162979792
naaki is u g l y !
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>>162979792
going to slap those whiskers off your face.
>>
So it's been a while since I played WAR but wasn't the general idea going Storm's Eye (or path whatever the slash debuff was) combo -> BB combo -> Storm combo etc, with your Fell Cleaves inbetween?
We had two WARs in our static now who were adamant about going debuff -> BB -> BB -> debuff all the time with the slash debuff dropping off at times. Shouldn't this be less beneficial for everyone, hell, even sometimes not as beneficial for the WAR himself?
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>>162980405
always alternate combos, letting the slashing debuff drop is a bigger loss than the 20 potency you 'gain' from doing two BB combos in a row, because the abilities do damage, THEN apply the debuff, instead of applying the debuff before doing damage.
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>>162980405
>when the WAR expects the ninja to keep the buff up

fucking degenerates. that was the 50 rotation as i recall, you'd drop eye for like 1 second which was still a gain with the double BB rotation but now with cleaves? you lose way too much damage
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Looking for similiar to this. Trying to rub one out.
http://imgur.com/a/KOGwu
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>>162980676
https://imgur.com/a/66yQm
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Explain.
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>>162981204
bots
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>>162980405
Your WARs are retarded.
Unless they have literally 1100 SkS they will always end up dropping maim and/or Eye in that scenario
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this is worse than coal
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I tried to play with a controller. It's fucking aids, holy shit. How do some players manage to play without a keyboard and mouse? Any tips on setting up KB+M for ps4?
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>>162981437
idk man you just play a lot
I played XI with a controller so it transferred over somewhat and you just get used to the weird stuff that isn't as intuitive
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I woke up surrounded in puss, oh boy
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>>162981510
lalas are made for rape
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>>162981501
when will you admit that XI was trash?
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>>162981510
Clean it when you're done, please.
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>>162981534
never because I still enjoy it to this day
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>>162981510
>tfw out of frame
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>>162981501
I guess that makes sense. I only have played mmos with KB+M.
>pic related
It's my setup, i'm planning on connecting both my KB and mouse to the PS4, but then it will leave my PC without either of them. Seems like such a waste just to buy a second pair for computer use though
>>
>>162979069
Probably some weird shit with your ears since the pearl's receiver directly stimulates the small bones of your ear.
No one but you will be able to hear it.
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>>162981606
>tiddy mouse
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>>162981437
Our healers both heal with controllers.
I don't know how the fuck they're doing it but they're managing.
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>>162981659
>tumblr
>>162981765
That's great to hear anon, I guess it just takes time and patience to get better with using the controller. I just don't have the patience on learning how to use it.
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>have twice the recommended fishing stats for special green fish thingy
>"the fish gets away..."
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aaaaaaAAあああ
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>>162982129
Some fish have fixed evasion rates!

Those fish are megaton FUCKLERS.
>>
How do I use house items? Once I unlock a house do they get a "use" option? Can one item be placed down multiple times or do I need multiple of the same items to do that?
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>>162982559
social menu > housing
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>xmas
>no ashc@
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lf hung au ra bf pst
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what is the fuel efficiency of a moonie
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>>162982890
are you too hot to touch?
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>tfw cucked by the one person you care enough to take a chance with
yeah i guess my streak of being wrong about people is literally infinite
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Where can I buy timberlines in this game? I need them to hang out with my Brodies and patrol thots?
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>>162969108
Only until Stormblood. The very same thread you failed to read said that it would be set to 60.
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>mod bans everyone
>the thread right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j61mWvtCKBI
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>>162983609
I'm not banned, bitch
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>>162983609
It's much better this way
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Hey! Anyone wanna help a poor, poor Arcanist with DPS Queues to do Satasha for my msq? It's fucking aids waiting for this goddamn queue to pop, and I just wanna keep going. On Behemoth, Primal. Claire Leyden, for friends list/party find/whatever you use.
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>>162983609
>6 am
>expecting free (you)s left and right
And on top of that the pedophiles got banned.
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>>162983751
>primal

you've dug your grave already
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>>162983751
I'm on Excalibur, but we're in the same data center so I can queue for it right now if you'd like.
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>>162983796
Shit senpai. I heard it was super-populated, and I'm on the east coast. What do I do
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>>162983751
Sastasha normal? What slots do you need left in queue?
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>>162983840
it is but most of the thread dwellers here are aether
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>>162983840
Ignore people like >>162983796. Primal is fine, just there isn't any gay faggots running around the data center. Idk how popular Behemoth is but Primal as a whole is not bad and it's the smartest one to choose if you want to actually play the game.
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>>162983835
The real hero, right here. INSTANT POP. THANKS FAMPAIS.
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>>162983925
It didn't pop for me, but I'm glad you got in! Just put out an SoS in the thread if you need people to queue up for stuff again!

Or if you have discord add me and ask me there. Audi#1075
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>>162983609
I'm not
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>gearing up ninja
>dunno stats
>but have my bard crit accessories
how do I ninja secondary stats?
>>
>>162984183
Crit>Det>Sks
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>>162984183
weights for everyone are crit>det>speed except:
bard (crit>sks>det)
blm (sps>crit>det)
sch/smn (crit>sps>det)
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>>162984136
Post /stretch
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>>162984347
/stretch
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>>162983127
What happened?
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>>162983127
Get over yourself you vagueposting faggot.

So a grown man won't fuck your e-asshole.

Wow. Cry about it.
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>>162984432
Post you doing that emote.
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Better watch out I've got a list and I've checked it twice.
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I hate this game.
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Dumb fish are dumb.
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>>162984648
You can report for ass holes waiting to roll like that
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>>162984829
>reporting people in a video game
anon...
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I don't want you appearing in my dreams again, Alphy. It's just weird.
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>>162984891
Some people need to be told and disciplined for their actions to change. Look where we are for an example.
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>>162985045
how do you get alphi
>>
>>162985107
I honestly don't remember which option it was. It was near the bottom, above the dragonsong war option.
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>>162985045
Of course he wears a blue one.

Y'shtola's was cute cause it gives you more insight into her backstory as sassy kitten studying under a cranky old woman that loves her immensely.
>>
>tfw no female voidsent to dominate totally and purge
;_;
>>
>>162985230
Gross

>>162985340
A'hl...
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>>162985331
omg y'shtola is so perfect
>she will never come into your dreams at night
>she will never wish you merry christmas
>you will never stumble upon her under the mistletoe
life just isn't fair..
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>>162985481
its hard being me
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>>162985780
>you will never get cucked by beast tribe orgies
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>>162985787
I agree, your life sucks. Maybe you'll find the perfect voidsent this Christmas... I doubt it though.
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>>162985780
I feel the same way about Loonh Ga but at the same time I'm sure she'd have probably fallen into the tree and knocked everything over.

But yeah I dunno how they did it but HW made me like Y'shtola, when ARR filled me with indifference at best.

Also I wanna say I was kinda annoyed when I realised talking about the city-states gave you the Scions you'd meet when you start there and not any of the leaders in a snug Christmas outfit. I swear to god if that one other option that might have them gives me Raubahn in a christmas top I'm gonna fingerpaint his walls with his left hand.

>>162985787
I will admit telling you to keep your chin up is a bit rough since gravity must conspire against that thing more than anyone else's but uh... not sure where I was going with that outside of the chin joke.

SMILE
>>
remember not to dye your starlight robe black
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Starlight Celebration comfy?
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>>162986326
is this good?
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>>162986483
Cute pumpkin.
>>
>instead of streamlining the 1-50 leveling experience they just said fuck it and gave people the ability to skip it
>>
>>162986605
Did you honestly expect anything else from people who
>could not add a partial string search to their market boards for three years
>could not add the ability to queue with chocobos out for three fucking years after saying they'll add it
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>>162954315
Someone just offered me 85$ for my newly leveled WAR (i135) . Is that a good offer?
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>>162985860
its my fault really i keep breaking them and trying to get new ones.

>>162986131
they make supports for that kind of thing now
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>>162986676
yes if u have another account and dont give a shit about the character name
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>>162986694
It is though. These things happen when you're not careful and forget they have limits.
Just try and be careful next time or the cleaners are gonna start charging triple next time.
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>>162986672
Didn't we blame those things on their funding and profits being funneled into XV?
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>>162986676
type /playtime
subtract the amount of money you paid for sub and the game from 85$ then divide it by hours played

Work out if the money you would make per hour is worth it to you
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>>162986694
Man I wish I had a support for my spine I think I broke it leaping out of bed to get my present.
>>
>>162986808
I got the game for free from my friend and I really don't give a shit about end game raiding.

The account is still on it's free month + heavensward, my total playtime is 8 days 19 hours
>>162986779
I tried the game for a while and didn't like it
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>>162986676
If you want to suffer through the leveling process again, sure
>>
>Queue for a dungeon
>Its a PLD tank
what do
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>>162986787
Well if cleaning up afterwards is the only problem then that's nothing to worry about. Do you have any idea just how very rich i am?

>>162986831
the present is a back brace, perfect!
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>>162986941
Made out of three allagan bronze pieces I bet.
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>>162986903
sperg out and throw a temper tantrum until the group sides with you to kick the tank
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>>162986903
>stop being a shitter and actually deal some damage
Would be a pretty good start.
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>>162986902
I'm quitting, i really don't like mmos that much i just played it for the weebtism and story. I might comeback in Stormblood though, hopefully there'll be a leveling boost then
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>>162987046
Well then sure, go for it.
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>>162987046
>I like the story
>Leveling boost pls
Just leave already.
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>>162986884
>I tried the game for a while and didn't like it
then why even ask, just take it
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>>162986987
21 actually
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>>162987086
Why would i want to do the same thing twice?
>>162987084
Alright, thanks anon for making me feel like im doing the right thing
>>162987095
Good point
>>
>>162987046
>leveling boost
ha
also like heavensward there will be a pile of quests waiting for you to even begin stormblood like they did with getting to heavensward

do that shit now or say forever goodbye
>>
>>162987107
Not only my spine but the entire economy of wrapped seasonal gifts are being supported by you huh?
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>>162974473

> she has a dick
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It's coming.
>>
All you neetlords still awake on Balmung need to logoff so I can make an alt.
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>>162972695
>Saw you at the hall of flames
>Too socially autistic to ask.
FUCK.
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>>162987569
But Im doing some late night posing
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>>162987569
No one logs off when they go to sleep on Balmung. You really do have to wait for maintenance.
>>
>>162987569
>go to bed at 8pm, see the regulars before tabbing out
>wake up early at 3am and see the same people still running around
>now its almost 8 and its still the same fags
madness
>>
>>162986903
>actually queue for a dungeon
>its actually a PLD tank
fuck
>>
>>162987715
Probably not gonna happen even then. They really should bring back the auto logoff feature.
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>>162986903
Suck it up and realize its not the end of the world if the run takes 2-3m longer
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>>162987242
Mado's Elezen doesn't have a dick tho
>>
>>162986802
shana is cute. CUTE.
>>
>>162987721
no one cares
>>
Which job has the worst playerbase? Not in skill but in personality.
>>
>>162987969
(You) did
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*High pitched screeching*
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>>162988571
What would you do with this knowledge?
>>
>>162988571
Monks.
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>>162988714
Hate them even more than I already do knowing my opinion is shared, whatever they are. I'm not picky.
>>
>>162988742
But anon, I'm a m-
Oh. You're right
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>>162988679
https://youtu.be/PdLIerfXuZ4?t=21
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>>162988571
WAR probably
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>>162987937
thanks
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>>162989131
glad to see you around again
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>healer declines a 50 minute WC queue
[screeches loudly]
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>>162989229
>suffering through WC
why
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>>162989226
I only wanted to do the event, I'm not going to play this garbage
>>
>>162989229
lmao aether? that was me. I decided fuck that shit and gonna go hit up some fishing instead
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>>162989281
Last minute WT and my BRD could enjoy some stuff from there.
Also a tank left the queue too.

>>162989332
Primal.
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>>162989229
>Peek lizard is on Primal too
>Will never end up in a queue together because I also play healer
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>>162989353
damn was a good guess, I made that shit up anyways
what primal server are you on that has that many people at a bench at this time?
>>
>>162989402
I'm actually on my BRD right now.

>>162989408
Excalibur
This was taken a few days ago around 6 or 7 pm EST.
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>>162989229
>s.t. still plays

I'm sorry.
>>
why isn't there no useful statistics like how many players are currently online a certain world you jackasses
>>
>>162989329
r-rip
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>>162989704
post butt
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>>162989774
Only if you get good at Issek
>>
>>162989846
oh, I don't need *that* butt ;^)
>>
>>162988710
Worst skin tone
Worst face for subrace
Worst haircut
Worst haircolor for most haircut
Worst eye color for skin and hair color combination
Worst lips and lipcolor
How do you fuck up a xaela this bad
>>
Hmm. Does anyone use a MMO mouse for this game? For some reason the game isn't picking up my side buttons.
>>
>having great conversation with someone
>ask if they would like to voice chat
>they haven't replied since
I fugged up
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>>162989949
:^( You still hate me
>>
>>162989507
Even worthless allagan rust buckets need friends too, anon...
>>
>>162989996
ugly mooncat
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>>162990010
ugly mooncat is like saying wet water
>>
Maaan if you two homos dont get the fuck up on out of here with that bullshit
>>
>>162989953
She's a cute.
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>>162990217
are you finally killing yourself, balbey?
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>>162989953
Thanks for the input, I'll try harder next time!
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>>162989963
Had no issue with both a naga and a g600, what do you have
>>
>>162990202
They look rather flat and uninspired, they don't even have facecales of any kind which actually benefit xaela
>>
>>162990345
A UtechSmat Venus. So, not a mainline brand. But I can't figure why it's not working. It's worked on other games.
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>>162990263
PLEASE let me purge you
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>>162990419
In interest of clarity, I would like to inform you that Au Ra are not related to dragons in any way shape or form.
What you're implying would be similar to me saying that all Elezen ought to be purged, because they have long slender ears like Lalafel do.

I hope I've been of help, and if you still want to purge me, I don't want to die, so, sorry, but no!
>>
>>162990545
Why should demons not be purged?
>>
Au ra and female miqo'te were a mistake.
Holy shit you all are ugly.
>>
>>162990643
We just need Vera to complete the package.
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>>162990706
Just the kind of thing you'd expect a demon to say, really.
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>>162985787
If only you cared as much about me....
>>
Does the method of farming sand through level 58 leve vilekin still work? Just burnt through 20 of them and didn't get a single chest.
>>
>>162989953
Unoriginal doesn't mean bad, anon. Stop judging the videogame girls so harshly
>>
>>162990643
It's what happens when you get weebs to try to make their toons anime.
The funny thing is it's actually more rare to see a natrual colored looking toon in Balmung.
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>>162988571
It's true... >>162988742
>>
> "I jump potioned, god, give me time to learn!"
>>
>>162990981
>toon
nigga..
>>
>>162991014
When are those supposed to start coming out? And what are they talking pricewise?
>>
>>162991014
I realize you're shitposting but this game desperately needs the MSQ jump potions, at the very least.

This game is dying and will continue to die if people have to spend 50+ hours at level 50 before they even make it to the expac. Don't forget that this is an MMO.
>>
>>162991108
Why play the game if you're going to skip the content?

Why bother ever adding story to the game.
>>
>>162991147
Content in an MMO to most people is the endgame dungeons/raids. You realize the leveling process in every MMO is like 5% of the person's total playtime or less usually right?
>>
I for one am looking forward to this potion so I can skip the awful grind of levelling my 20+ alts.
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>>162990706
this is the kind of thing that succubi say to lure their victims into complacency. i'm on to you

>>162990845
i'll pull you down the witchdrop any day....
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>>162991147
>story is required content
>hours of skipping or endlessly clicking through unskippable cutscenes
>this after the journey to 50 is complete, barred from new shit because of some shit story with endless filler
Sorry that some people would rather play the game, anon.
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>>162991204
Most of these people who will use jump potions don't raid, so they are missing all the story just to do 2 new dungeons every 3 months and have no clue what any story is?
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Every time I log in there's no one online...
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>>162991147
You aren't going to change your mind and neither am I.

You and I played the game and through the story as it came out in spurts. It's not so bad when that's the case, but think of if you were to be brand new, starting today.

I can't even tell you how many times I've had new people in my FC or sprouts I've befriended that were bright eyed and excited to play this game, only to get to 50 and give up/never make it to Ishgard because the story becomes shittier and it seems like it never fucking ends.

Honestly if jump potions weren't there, there would have definitely needed to be some MSQ culling because the 2.0 -2.55 story at 50 (at the very least) is too long and unnecessary.

Think of when Stormblood comes out and how much MSQ you have to go through for ARR, not to mention HW at this point, just to be able to play with your friend.

I'm sorry but the amount of story is ridiculous, and frankly unnecessary as it doesn't even award viable exp.

I fully understand this is an FF game and story is a major part, but I'm also biased as I feel like the ff14 story has really waned and has gone to complete shit. I have begun to skip most of the recent story because it's just shitty and lazy. Don't even get me started on Alexander.
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>>162991341
You do know this is a "RPG" right? Even if it is MMO.
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>>162991358
You describe it as if it's manditory. it's an optional purchase, so they don't care about the story.
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>>162991267
Wrong cat!!!
Also jk, we're pals!R-right?
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>>162991108
Fuck you no it doesn't.

You think the game is "dying" now? Just wait until the entire first half of the game is deader than it is right now in a content drought. Just wait until there is no reason to go into any of those early game zones, even less than there is now.

All those trials, all those dungeons, all those leves. Hours and hours worth of content just completely invalidated because little timmy spend 19.95 of mommy's paycheck on a jump pot, and guess what? Now little timmy gets to whine on the forums about there not being enough content despite never having touched 50+ hours worth of it, he isn't even aware of it, he just knows that he wants to grind tomes and then idle to show off his shiny neon green gear that shits particle effects.

And guess who the publisher is going to have the dev listen to?
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>>162991459
not people on american servers

shut up and deal with it
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What they need to do:
>Address MSQ and remove the fluff to make it more interesting, and increase EXP from it and side quests to compensate
>Revamp the leveling process and give players more skills early on like WoW does where you get the big ones for your class at 10. Don't do the shit where you change how they play entirely at level 50/60.
>Allow players to glamour around 15 or 20 when they pick up dyes as well.
>Allow people to do solo versions of dungeons that don't give loot/experience, but won't gate people during the leveling process if they are a DPS class or on a dead realm
>Make the novice grounds more apparent instead of some obscure NPC you can choose to talk to

What they will actually do:
>Jump potions
>Continue to focus only on making classes play way differently at 70 so we can have Wanderers Minuet style changes on every single class instead of giving us secondary progression by giving us trait CHOICES during the leveling process that change our leveling skills
>Probably no changes to make glamour more manageable
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>>162991429
I understand that, but people having this option actually effects everyone.
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>>162991147
What play *a* game if the content is mindless and horrible? The MSQ should make any sane person want to quit
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>>162991358
>Most of these people who will use jump potions don't raid

Cite your sources. In fact the post Yoshi made indicated that most people who used the boost admitted to being raiders or having experience with other MMO endgames or were just boosting alts. The number of brand new people to the game or genre using boosts will be small.
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>>162991437
i dont have any with you in it... all mooncats are the same anyways...........
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>>162991397
>>162991560
>>162991585

Buying jumping potion should require to join a training school to learn your full rotation etc before you can even queue up for DF content, but actually better than that novice school.
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I think they should make a digest for the 2.1-2.5 MSQ before they provide a story-skip potion.

I think the 2.1-2.5 grind is what kills people's interest in the game more than anything else.

Increase EXP gain in 2.0 content and Heavensward, sure, but don't forget the horrible 2.1-2.5 stretch.
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>>162991560
Its not mindless and horrible. Someone spent a lot of time writing those story quests, some people find them interesting and if you aren't one of those people you should probably look into WoW because this game is not for you.

Mindless and horrible is running the same fucking raid once a week and doing the same daily quests and queues every day, then whining until patch day about there not being enough content.
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>>162991585
>Having Alts to grind for 4 str 4 stam leather belt
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>>162991590
>All mooncats are the same
I might not look unique, but that shouldn't be a problem either way!

Wanna do some content when I get home later?
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>>162991696
>i thought the 2.1 msq was worth doing or interesting at all

retard.
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That Weeping City was surprisingly zen. I think BRD is better for me than I first thought. I need to get back into juggling an actual buff and not a stance.

>>162991386
I'm on late at night so I have to put up with almost none of my first online. It feels pretty bad.

>>162991632
I recall that they were going to turn most of 2.1 through 2.5 into a series of cutscenes at some point before or right after Stormsblood was released.
I hope pre-existing players can view it in their inn.
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all the content currently in game that requires going back to do "dated" content to help new players out will now be invalidated because new players just skip it.

this kind of content honestly was the worse, forcing veterans to keep going back but I understood it for getting new players leveled up. This new Eureka zone better not be bullshit so it doesn't force the go back and do old content stuff to do this new relic!
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>All the lewd dumb cats switching over to mooncats again
Finally, Azeyma didn't want you dragging all of her children into the dirt anyway
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>>162991749
>I think a patch's worth of content is worth allowing everyone to skip every bit of the story up until the latest permanently
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>>162991749

>If I don't like it no one else can

retard
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>>162991719
im snowed in today so i wont be going anywhere~
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ITT: people pretending XIV is the first MMO to offer a level skip
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FOWARDS AND BACK THEN GO FOWARDS AND BACK
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>>162991696
If it wasn't potions it was going to have to be pruning of some form. Someone also spent a lot of time writing WoW lore and writing quest text/making cinematics, and yet people still skip them because people don't care. They pay for a GAME, an MMO at that. It's fine if you like the story and spent the 200 hours watching every cutscene and reading every quest. But again, for someone that's brand new to the game it's extremely offputting and it's a really shitty slog to put someone through if they just want to play a fucking videogame with their friend.

You're a vocal minority because if you weren't, these potions would not even be considered at all. They are aware how awful the grind is and that it's pretty much next to impossible to catch up to anyone at max level because it's just gated content and quests one after the other.

I play both WoW and FF and I can guaranfuckingtee you that WoW has way more to do than FF does. You say mindless and horrible running the same raid once a week in WoW, but you and I are clearly playing different FF14s because so far it consists of "attempt to do 4 floors of savage, do a shitty fetch book of old content we've done 500 times repeated already, ok idle the rest of the day"

I've been playing since day 1 of Legion and I've never run out of things to do, and there isn't even an MSQ.
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>>162986694
i dont understand this meme
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>>162991897
aww yiss
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>>162991964
first MMO where you can play multiple jobs on one character with a jump potion.
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>>162991426
You know this is also a game right? Something people want to do for fun?

>>162991539
Not retaining players also affects everyone.
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>>162992000
Make it stop.
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>>162990706
>So, while I'm not a particularly learned individual of my race on the subject
then stop being a sperg about it
cute tho gj
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>>162991862
>>162991859
please refer to my earlier post then

>i liked 2.1
>i liked the insulting fuckery of the lead-up to titan
retards.

this does not refer to the actual content in 2.1. the ex primals and dungeons were inarguably top tier. doing level 15 guildhests and 30 dungeons 'just to help out the adventurers guild' was not engaging content.
please note that i enjoyed the idea of having a party thrown for you because you are definitely going to die to titan but its insulting how long it got stretched out with no real payoff and that kind of thing just KEPT HAPPENING.
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>>162990374
When i see posts like this I'm always curious what the poster"s character looks like
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>>162992014
>But again, for someone that's brand new to the game it's extremely offputting and it's a really shitty slog to put someone through if they just want to play a fucking videogame with their friend.
The absolute shittiest argument ever in regards to this. You can already play with your friend as everything in the game fucking scales you down. Moreover, how is playing through the story of a fucking RPG a slog, especially compared to the same daily quests and dungeon queues day after day?

>They are aware how awful the grind is and that it's pretty much next to impossible to catch up to anyone at max level because it's just gated content and quests one after the other.
No, they're aware that ADHD instant gratification babies like you exist and you're going to be bad publicity when you buy the expansion because its being talked about on the internet somewhere and had "MMO" in the hashtags so you thought you could be the new cool kid endgame raider in it, realized you'd have to actually play a videogame for once to get to the endgame, and whined about it on every forum ever potentially driving away sales from people as equally cancer as you. Good riddance I say but money talks. The only vocal minority is you, else this many people wouldn't have stuck with this game over WoW.

>I've been playing since day 1 of Legion and I've never run out of things to do
Well stay there then, this isn't your game clearly. Why would you want to play WoW twice?
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>>162992279
Just one question
2.1-2.5 MSQ digest cutscenes. Y/N?
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Lmao this games low level content is going to die out if they implement a level skip potion. If you thought low level zones were empty and queues were long before, imagine after this shit gets implemented. People rush through ARR+HW then complain that they are bored and quit. It will make SE more money in the short term but what about the long term?
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>>162992081
Which changes absolutely nothing as the jump potion is for a single job.
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>>162992380
what low level content? fates? those die super quickly unless theres some 1% item to grind for. dungeons? roulettes still exist and will always exist.
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>>162992380
Well right now we have the post 2.0 pre 3.0 story slog, I'm pretty sure that kills a lot of people's motivation to continue.
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Easy money tbqh, they'll buy the jump, get bored within a month.
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>>162992357
Not him, but if they do it right then yes.
I mean have it setup so there's some action to break up the cutscenes so it isn't a total bore.
Like doing Leviathan, Ramuh and Shiva HM instead of somehow forcing them into the cutscenes.
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>>162992210
People steal people's looks in this thread, my greatest fear is seeing me being cookie cutted into a slut base and being confused as a slut due to that.
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>>162991204
I have over 2 years of play time in rs and most of that bullshit was leveling up for a max cape
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>>162992462
Nobody is going to do low, main scenario, or 50 roulette if they can just skip it. Hardly anyone in this game levels alts or different classes outside of cross class skill requirements. The people who level everything are small audience compared to people who main one job.
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>>162992519
they have relics to push people into roulettes. granted the wait is longer than at HW launch but a dps queue is like 10-15 minutes.
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>>162992519
>Main story roulette
People do that for the tomes and level 50 ironworks gear/ARR relic shit
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>>162992503
Yeah same. Just try and keep low if possible.
Or wear a mask at all times.
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>>162991386
>ywn pump this elezen
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>>162992357
Considering the size of them in relation to the whole story, the decent non-cutscene content involved, and the fact that they obviously aren't going to make a "Skip Patch 2.1-2.5!" potion and instead are going to opt for everything, no. Assuming by disgest cutscenes you mean summary of all the content involved.

Ideally I'd just like them to revisit them, but I really don't mind them either way as it didn't take me that long and I hadn't seen it before.
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>>162992575
>>162992595
>bothering with relic and tome shit when the level boost gives you i130 gear for free
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>>162992575
Yeah I'm sure people are going to bother with relics when the already long queues are going to be even worse.
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>>162992503
Do people seriously worry about this
Damn that's sad
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>>162992686
Unique relic glams my man.
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>>162992693
people bother with the objectively inferior and more annoying to get kinna weapons so yes. yes they will.
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>>162992603

What inspires people to make posts like this?

Also regarding the jump potions I feel like it will give them the level but they may still need to actually unlock and clear the dungeons?
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>>162992739
They aren't actually unique as you think
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>>162992279
>The absolute shittiest argument ever in regards to this. You can already play with your friend as everything in the game fucking scales you down. Moreover, how is playing through the story of a fucking RPG a slog, especially compared to the same daily quests and dungeon queues day after day?

Be honest with me, when was the last time you played WoW because it's starting to sound like 4+ years. Shit like Mythic + exists, 3 tiers of raids, 2 raids (third next month), and the "daily quests" are optional and stack up for 3 days if you do want to do them. I'm sorry but level scaling is the shittiest thing ever and I am shocked you blindly defend it. At least in WoW if you go do stuff with a lower level friend you HAVE ALL OF YOUR SKILLS AND YOUR GEAR ISN'T MADE IRRELEVANT. I sure do love getting end game gear just to be scaled down to 180 for some shitty dungeon required for MSQ.

>The only vocal minority is you, else this many people wouldn't have stuck with this game over WoW.
Tell that to the millions of people subscribed to WoW and the sub 1 million people playing this. I sub to both and I log in to one over the other more due to actual content. You can keep crying about it all you want, but at the end of the day it's still an optional service you do not have to buy. Also
> realized you'd have to actually play a videogame for once to get to the endgame
Since when is watching shitty storytime and cutscenes and PRAY RETURN TO THE WAKING SANDS "playing" the game? If I wanted to pay for a fucking movie I'd go pirate one or see it in theaters.

>Well stay there then, this isn't your game clearly. Why would you want to play WoW twice?
Because I sub to both because I like aspects of both games and have friend circles in both.

I honestly feel really sorry for you if you feel like repeating old content over and over and over again is something you legitimately enjoy doing. Even coil got old after the billionth time, and that place was magical.
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>>162992772
kinna you can get from leveling other classes tho
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>>162992803
Once they drink level potion, everything is marked as "cleared" for them up to their level including roulette dungeons.
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>>162992803
I really like the ceremony boots, taffeta loincloth, and southern sea suit you wear.
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>>162992619
I've done the 2.1 to 2.5 grind 4x (RP apts).
It's been awful every time.

4 friends of mine who picked up the game got demotivated by this stretch. 2 made it great in and dropped the game.

Any enthusiasm people may have for the game is diminished by the sheer pointlessness that the majority of those quests are. 4800 exp per quest. Nothing interesting happens until 2.3.

I don't see how anybody can defend it, but people's white knighting for their favorite MMO will never stop I guess.
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>>162992824
Where else am I going to get the aegis sheild zeta from my man
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>>162992940
>RP apts.
Yeah thats a good reason to ruin it for everyone.
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>>162992941
When they add it to the cash shop in Stormblood because "people found it too difficult to obtain just like reaching level 50 pre level boost option"
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>>162992941
He means "unique" in the sense that everyone has it and are using it, not how to obtain it.
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>>162991397
What the fuck is wrong with you niggers
You act like the level 50 story is so super bad and that it takes forever, but I've done it in two days. Did I skip some shit? Sure, cutscenes where it was obvious that nothing was happened. But hearing people say it takes like 50 hours is ridiculous. Also keep in mind that you do it once, you don't ever have to do it again unless you want to make another character.
Seriously it's not that huge of a deal and if people can't deal with it it then fuck them.
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I don't know anything about bard, which one of these is better?
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>>162993005
It was awful the first time I did it 2.1-2.5.
It was fine to do as the patches came out, but in one big chunk it's a slogfest. Skipping every single cutscenes and knowing mostly where to go, it took me 10 hours of playtime.
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>>162993094
Kinna, going by what an anon said earlier about crit > SkS > det being ideal for BRD.

Also, need a tank and dps to queue for WC on primal.
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This game needs a story summary or skip, not a level boost. You could sum up the entire events of 2.1-2.55 with a recap video just like they summed up 1.x with that one DVD they released.
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>>162993005
whats being ruined? if you want to experience the story its still there for you. you will still get your queues through roulettes, relic and achievement grinders.
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>>162993171
This. Increase 2.0 and 3.0 exp rate in 4.0, and add a 2.1-2.5 and 3.1-3.5 story digest with breaks between cutscenes for quest fights.
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>>162992831
I played legion up to surumar. The entire zone was the epitome of daily quest and on top of my class hall being locked behind timegates I had had enough.
>At least in WoW if you go do stuff with a lower level friend you HAVE ALL OF YOUR SKILLS AND YOUR GEAR ISN'T MADE IRRELEVANT.
Not a good thing, retard. If you really wanted to play with your friend instead of just show off why would you want to 1-shot everything they were fighting? Thats fucking McGamer shit.

>citing WoW's sub numbers in 2016
Yeah I'm sure those chinese players and gold farmers really fucking care about it.

>Since when is watching shitty storytime and cutscenes and PRAY RETURN TO THE WAKING SANDS "playing" the game?
>I didn't like it so everyone else couldn't possibly

>I honestly feel really sorry for you if you feel like repeating old content over and over and over again is something you legitimately enjoy doing. Even coil got old after the billionth time, and that place was magical.
Ironic statement considering you're the one supporting exactly that.
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Can I jump for Gatherer/Crafters?
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>>162993069
>Seriously it's not that huge of a deal and if people can't deal with it it then fuck them.
Yeah, fuck paying customers who leave and stop supporting the game.

>>162993171
I agree with this more, but there is somethign to be said about people who join and want to play with friends. This game's story isn't good imo and there isn't much of a loss skipping it. The endgame doesn't even revolve around it all that much.
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>>162993301
>a potion for free gil
This is a Japanese game, not a Korean game.
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>>162993301
This is the real 1000000 Gil question here
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>>162993094
Sophic because the rest of your gear should already have full crit.
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>>162993318
>Yeah, fuck paying customers who leave and stop supporting the game.
Yes, fuck them. You shouldn't need to cater to every single fucking retard out there. Might as well implement bots for shitters who can't play their well enough on their own.
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>>162993398
>story quests teach you how to play the game

come now, anon. you know thats not true.
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>>162993318
>WE'RE PAYING CUSTOMERS YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO US
Vocal minority ladies and gentlemen.

>but there is somethign to be said about people who join and want to play with friends
Fuck this bullshit.

>The endgame doesn't even revolve around it all that much.
Fuck that bullshit too.
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>>162993171
where that dvd at breh
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>>162993435
>fuck wanting to play with friends on something that isnt as toothless as copperbell level 20 or garuda hm when everyone gets synced to i130

please, i just want to play the game with my friends.
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>>162993430
No, but if you're going with
>paying customers leave because they can't handle going through the story!
you could as well argue
>paying customers leave because content is too hard for them!
Hence, bots.
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>>162993503
what friends bitch
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>>162992803
You like the attention though so...
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>>162993453
https://youtu.be/Txc0loyuq9l
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>>162993503
You can already do that.

>waaaaah gear level scaling
McGamer™
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>>162993280
Here's your (you) as you're too retarded to even bother replying to anymore. You're welcome to enjoy the shitty story this game offers, and it's still going to be there when the (optional) potions get implemented. If anything you should be happy you don't have to run sastasha for the thousandth time and actually have new people to do shit with.

>>162993069
>Seriously it's not that huge of a deal and if people can't deal with it it then fuck them.

Yeah fuck those people that play the game differently than me and will keep this game afloat with subs. How dare they.

This whole "fuck you, got mine" mentality is silly. Having something like this will at least get people to 60 and lower queue times over them quitting at 50 because it's boring as shit.
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>>162993586
https://youtu.be/Txc0loyuq9I

Fixed the link
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>>162993581

Yeah you're right...
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>>162993598

>i think sastasha nm is fun

no anon, you are the retards.
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>>162993601
Enjoy coming to realize you've supported the death of both games and untimately the genre as a whole.

Its a long, slow fall but boy does the realization at the bottom hit hard when you come to find you've got nothing to play.
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>>162993167
>crit > SkS > det being ideal for BRD.
Wait what? I've been using crit > det for the longest. A year and a half later and I'm still a shitter.
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>>162993453
Look on YouTube "the waning of the sixth sun"
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>>162993435
>The endgame doesn't even revolve around it all that much.
>Fuck that bullshit too.
I don't know about you, but the content with even slight difficulty is usually tangential to the story at best, where you can enjoy it while knowing dick all about the story.

>but there is something to be said about people who join and want to play with friends
>Fuck this bullshit.
Why is it bad if people want to play a social MMO with friends and would rather skip the story?

>>162993527
The only thing that can be difficult about the story is having to slog through it. Sorry, but watching the cutscenes isn't really playing the game. You're enjoying a part of the game, but you're moreso watching a movie. People who want to experience the story have that option, and people who don't can skip it.
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>>162993598
What in the fuck is "McGamer"? Go back to your epic for teh win pewdiepiez and shit.
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>>162993683
>I think a level 15 dungeon at the very beginning of the game is something we're going to be spending a lot of time on
Weak argument.
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>>162993601
>Yeah fuck those people that play the game differently than me and will keep this game afloat with subs.
Ah, yes, the "I pay my sub I got to play how I want!!!" argument. Missed that one.
>Having something like this will at least get people to 60 and lower queue times over them quitting at 50 because it's boring as shit.
Yeah, great idea having people shit up your 60 queues instead of 50 queues since they level and storypotioned their way up. Won't make anyone else dislike queueing at 60, nah.
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>>162993716
>Sorry, but watching the cutscenes isn't really playing the game
If you don't like how the game is built, don't play it.
>People who want to experience the story have that option, and people who don't can skip it.
Yes, they can already skip cutscenes. I'm glad you understand.
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>>162993684
Yeah, i singlehandedly destroyed a game on life support that has a cash shop for glamour

How awful.

The MMO genre isn't dying anytime soon, just ones with mass amounts of gated content for virtually no reason.

>boy does the realization at the bottom hit hard when you come to find you've got nothing to play.
This is some really sad projecting because FF14 isn't my life, unlike yours. It's a game I play sometimes alongside WoW and a list of steam games with friends. You should try it sometime instead of being mad that your baby game will be more accessible.
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>Coming home to a jump potion argument
How are you even managing to keep this going?
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>>162993684
>being elitist about a baby game for babies

help me, im being trolled
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>>162993726
A McGamer is someone who wants the rewards of finishing a game but doesn't want to actually play them. A McGamer is the product of a generation of people who grew up watching videogame streams on twitch so much that theyb spent only a fraction of that time playing them. A McGamer is the reason all games have guide arrows and easy modes marked "normal". A McGamer is a drone with a wide open wallet who wants to make every game cater to their tastes so they can be a part of gamer culture without actually involving themselves in it because it waxes their preening, narcissistic personality with minimal effort. And when they finally get what they want they all jump on the next massively hyped product to suck dry.

You are a McGamer.
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>>162993892
>person gets understandably upset a game gets more accessible to retards and people who don't really care about it
>LOL GET A LIFE
Why do you even play videogames anymore, go live your life.
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>>162993897
people are mad new players can skip outdated garbage for some reason
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>>162993971
yes okay thats nice but what does that have to do with watching 0% actual gaming involved cutscenes that drag on forever?
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>>162994028
Press esc to skip the cutscene if it bothers you that much, this is about the content and keeping it alive for people who might actually like to see it.
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>>162994008
It's such a dumb thing to argue over, though. It won't affect anyone who doesn't pay for a potion themselves
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>>162993972
At this point I just feel sorry for you. You can't even welcome the fact more people will be in game and maybe even make cities livelier.

There's a free login campaign going on right now and yet there are less people than ever around. Does that not bother you?

Did you also not even read the official forums post that most of the people that bought the potions were alts/veteran players?

Fuck, man. Get a grip. In fact, get a hobby. You're investing way too much time and emotions into a game that you pay to idle in uldah in.
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>>162994085
the content is 100% solo. It will always be there. This is not a cataclysm level redo.

Please enjoy the story content if it pleases you and let people who do not do the same. I like the story mostly myself but i can understand people not wanting to watch it.
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>>162994103
b-but they won't see the absolutely riviting story without going back and watching it in cutscenes, skipping all the running around and getting right to the meat of things. a-and they'll shit up your 60 roulettes because they don't know how to play the game like 80% of the playerbase already!
so dumb
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>>162994103
>It won't affect anyone who doesn't pay for a potion themselves
yeah totally now if you'll excuse me I see to have misplaced my extremely thick glasses.
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Why is Yoshi even asking the community about the potions thing? It's going to happen regardless.
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>>162993839
>If you don't like how the game is built, don't play it.
I read the story, so I'm not even the target audience for this.
>Yes, they can already skip cutscenes. I'm glad you understand.
Except when they can't because reasons.

>>162994085
>have to talk to several people back to back for some pointless bullshit
>constant "talk to this person within walking distance for me and then report back
>can't skip these because it's classified as talking to an NPC and not an actual cutscene.
>actually worse when it's an endless chain of these and there is travel involved with no actual game play.

Also isn't the potion only skipping to the start of the 4.0? They'd still have to go through that anyway.
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>>162994215
Oh? Tell me exactly how it'll affect you
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>>162994237
The idea is that the jump potions will have a negative effect of clueless people getting to later in the game with a ton of skills that they have no idea how to use. It's a valid worry imo, but rings more hollow with how many people play as if the potions already exist.
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>>162994237
Longer queues, people at endgame having no idea how to play their class, developers and writers giving even less of a shit about the 4.0 story than they did about 2.0 because the players certainly won't, less tie ins and references to older story elements, self-contained storylines that mean fuckall in the long run and ultimately give the player a sense of pointlessness, less of sense of a living and evolving world and plotline, dead early game areas, a general sense of pervading apathy.
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>>162994168
>You can't even welcome the fact more people will be in game and maybe even make cities livelier.
More people doesn't equal a better game. If most of the new players will be jump-potioning retards shitting up everything you can do at max level, you will have helped no one.
>yet there are less people than ever around
Proofs? Yeah, there are less people in the captital cities, but guess what, now that everyone has apartments with market boards right in front of them and being able to put up NPCs in your apartment, why the fuck would you ever want to go to a capital city?
>Fuck, man. Get a grip. In fact, get a hobby
Nice ad hominem though.
>You're investing way too much time
I even barely play outside raiding two or three times a week.
Is it too hard to understand that shitting up a game by implementing cash shop shortcuts instead of actually adjusting the said content that's "problematic" is just a lazy way out and not helping anyone in the long run? Unless you count SE's bank account, of course.
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>>162994386
ook dook post
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>>162994218
>Except when they can't because reasons.
I agree, it's pretty stupid that you can't skip some cutscenes but they're mostly the exception than the norm. They could fix those.
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>>162994324
Palace of the Dead already caused this, and they will be forced to learn their jobs because you cannot skip to the end of the current expansion. If they get a jump in SB, they skip to the end of HW, they still have to do all of SB's MSQ and its inevitable MSQ dungeons. And that just puts them on the exact same footing as FATE grinders in ARR and Palace of the Dead grinders of today

>>162994386
>Longer queues
In what sense? Leveling roulette will always cover for all leveling dungeons. People will always use Leveling roulette, because it isn't called Low Level Roulette anymore, just as it was changed in HW to include Dusk Vigil - Gubal, it will include all of the SB leveling dungeons. It, Trial and Expert are the dungeons that can never die. The only roulettes that can die are PvP and Main Scenario
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Whats the best non-slutty glamour for female BLM & SCH?
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>>162994530

I just went for unglamoured prototype alex set
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>>162994465
forced to learn their jobs when? the game is toothless, utterly toothless. even 'expert' dungeons let you just walk right over everything.
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>>162994646
So this becomes a problem caused by the potions how? You just described a current problem and we definitely don't have these potions. Seems like nothing changes, then, kinda as if the potion wouldn't actually affect you
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>>162994530
Level 20 potato sack.
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>>162994182
Nigga you didn't even know ninjas had a silence/stun variance at level 60
Shut
The
Fuck
Up
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>>162994696
im not the earlier poster, i dont give a shit about the potions.
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>>162994182
Didn't you get kicked from thordan ex because you couldn't look away?
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>>162994871
Well, let me use an example then. If people, right now, enter Sohm Al and none of them know what they are doing with that job, there will be many wipes. Not because of the lack of damage, but because the tank will die many times because neither he nor the healer would know what they're doing. This, again, is a current problem, but they sorta learn what they're doing by the end of their clear
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>>162994972
Soo.. the same thing will happen with new players regardless? Why do you think people who use the potions are incapable of learning?
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>overhauling combat
>only changing cross-class skills

explain this shit
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>>162995050
I'm not the one arguing that potions make anything worse, please follow. I'm the one saying potions won't affect anyone who doesn't actually buy one themselves. They will be forced to learn their job in SB even if they skipped HW content because there will inevitably be MSQ dungeons
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>>162995101
And just to use a comparison to ARR dungeons. The only way SB can't teach a player their job through MSQ dungeons is if every single dungeon is just Sastasha - Copperbell Mines. Because Toto-Rak teaches healers to stop sucking or you watch at least someone die to poison. Brayflox then really drives the point home
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>>162995050
New player who levels his character by himself
>is gradually introduced to new skills, learns to use his skills over time, has some basic knowledge by the time he hits 60 or whatever level
>is gradually introduced to game mechanics and boss skills, will recognize some mechanics because they're reused all the time

New player who just jumppotions his shit up
>instant max or near-max level
>have 30 skills, gotta put them on my hotbars
>fuck if I know if I would ever need this skill, let's put it fuck knows where
>what's that shitty circle above some faggot's head? It's probably an AoE marker, better get the fuck out

Of course they may or may not learn over time just like any other player, it's just much more likely you'll encounter people who are worse than the ones that actually invested any amount of time in their character. And there will be the rare decent people who only bought the skip for whatever reason, sure, but they most certainly will be the rarest exception.
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Anybody on Tonberry in a Hunt Linkshell that can spare an invite?
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Completely differentfag here.

Jump potions unfortunately (and I do mean unfortunately) need to happen.

Yes the game could be streamlined and you could have the 2.0 to 3.5 stretch be essentially a 10 hour "tutorial". Most people wouldn't mind that. In fact that's probably less time than it was in 2.0.

But every man-hour spent on that would be better spent elsewhere. Is this a sentiment most anti-jumpers can get behind?

I'd love it if the game was in good enough shape right now to where we could debate whether or not player retention is worth the change. But I'll give an example of what need to be fixed badly that many people don't know about.

Crafting sucks shit right now. There's a rotation that's pretty optimized and will basically always HQ stuff as long as you have enough CP and the gear to do it. Many crafters have like 100 of a stat wasted. This crafting process is 50 steps and it completely takes any semblance of "skill" out of crafting.

And it's broken in a way that future skill changes wouldn't do anything. The rotation takes care of 85% of the progress in 2 steps without dependence on gear. An expansion would at BEST do nothing. At worst it would make crafting impossible for people who don't do the rotation.

This is busted bad and is going to be something that they will need to spend hours on.

Think about parry.
Think about the ilvl system and how bland gearing out is.
Think about how there's a group of people myself included so you know I'm not without bias who spend 90 minutes in this game clearing 4 bosses and are waiting for their sub to expire.

They can't admit it if its true, but I hope the logic behind jump potions is "fuck that shit we have other fires to put out"

And if you're complaining about skill look around at the player base that HAD the storyline up until now. It was already a problem. Jump potions might exacerbate it but any fix to the problem of player skill now fixes that issue as well.

Sorry I'm too wordy.
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>>162995517
Your example fell short instantly. A person who uses a jump potion in SB will jump to level 60, at the start of SB content. SB will have its endgame at level 70. It will not skip all of the MSQ dungeons or trials of SB, it'll do that for HW and ARR. Again, you will be taught your job just because you can't skip over the inevitable dungeons, and no one in their right mind can claim the dungeons in this game don't teach the very basics of healing and tanking. When people call the dungeons easy, it's because you can do every pre-50 dungeon in Gathering gear. It still requires basic competence or else you get the SCH that wipes you on Aiatar because he didn't Adlo the poison stacks back in 2.0 when you couldn't Antidote them
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>>162995078
Is it confirmed they'll won't change up anything else?
Because honestly I don't have a clue what the fuck I'm going to do on some classes if they add 5+ more skills. There are only so many hotkeys you can comfortably reach.
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>>162995730
>not playing with a controller
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>>162995683
>It still requires basic competence or else you get the SCH that wipes you on Aiatar because he didn't Adlo the poison stacks back in 2.0 when you couldn't Antidote them
And you think that players who just bought into the game and instantly leveled their way to 60 won't, on average, be worse than your average player who actually played his class and may or not have had the time to learn from his mistakes?
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>>162995730
What did WoW do? I dont know myself, but yeah, I dont think the average player, much less a console one, can physically handle more buttons, Id have to switch to ESDF
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>>162995517
>New player who levels his character by himself
I just ran a 60 dungeon with 2 dps who didn't aoe after I pulled big
The Mnk let his greased lightning stacks fall, and the couple times it hit 3 (usually it fell off at 1 or 2 stacks) he used tornado kick
I had to pull 1 group at a time because both of them would only dps one enemy. No matter what, bad people will be bad. I wouldn't be surprised if 'boosted' players put more effort into the game because they were more motivated to. I think you may be overreacting.
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>>162995839
You know the example I just used is a player that literally cannot know his job besides the tooltips because Brayflox is a level 32 dungeon and Haukke was the only dungeon he'd have healed before it. Just as someone in 2.0 would go from Arcanist to a healer right there, someone who jumped to SB content would very much become acquainted with their job in the dungeons. You used a stack example? Someone using current potions skips to the start of Ishgard, that means they learn their job at Sohm Al because it forces stacking on you in the second boss or else someone dies
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Level boosts in this game is going to have the same effect as level boosts in NA WoW. People buying boosts when a patch comes out that introduces a OP class/spec and having no fucking idea how to play and shitting up the PuG scene. When cross server PF comes out, expect to see a lot of these WoWrefugee boosting shitters.
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>>162995854
I pretty much only press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, R, Space Bar and ` with Shift, Ctrl and Alt with my left hand. My mouse has 4 buttons. I get away fine, but I'm not sure how much MORE I could do.
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>>162954464
Fashionably late
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>>162995854
They pruned a shitton of abilities with the current addon. I don't think you need more than 20 hotkeys tops for most classes, it's even significally less with some.
They did some pruning with the previous addon with some skills being merged together where it made sense, but they went completely overboard with Legion.

>>162995992
Sure, you can go with the SCH example (which is the only case where this happens, but okay). You do have to consider that someone who makes that switch at 60 has around half the skills someone at 60 would, and their interaction is much simpler than what they'd have at 60. It would take considerably less time to learn.
Also I don't think Sohm Al uses classic "Stack here!" circles, it's just a orange/blue mark IIRC.
The thing I'm saying is that it will be significally harder for them to learn their job because if you're just given all your tools at once without even remotely having a plan what the fuck you have to do, it will take you longer to actually become somewhat proficient. Sure, there will be the rare exceptional person who'd consult a guide and do some reading, but let's not kid ourselves, the majority won't.
Also, jump potions only enable further bullshit. I won't be surprised if they'd eventually add a level 70 potion while it's current content because why the fuck not. The only thing I'm sure will be kept somewhat safe are weekly lockouts because it's their time-gating shit keeping people in this game.
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>>162995854
>I dont think the average player, much less a console one, can physically handle more buttons
Why on earth would you think that when console players can just cycle the hotbars with the press of a button?
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>>162996352
>who makes that switch at 60 has around half the skills someone at 60 would,
who makes that switch at 30 has around half the skills someone at 60 would
Fugg
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>>162996352
please level this complaint towards PotD as well.

i cant play drg for shit yet now i have it at 60 with zero ability to play it outside of level 50 content
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>>162996352
>the only case where this happens
No, not really. Tell me, at level 30 a MRD has gone through the game never using a tank stance until Defiance when he becomes a Warrior. Now, if he has held aggro just fine up until then (and he has because MRD is incredibly hard to lose aggro on anything outside of Under the Armor) why would he bother using Defiance up until he meets Thunder III in Haukke and does not know to line of sight it? Because if everything's worked before then, it shouldn't need a change to generate more enmity. But it does, and he learns that in a dungeon
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>>162996310

Always cute
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>>162994815
i do now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>162994906
nidex actually
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>all this elezenposting making me want to play elezen
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>>162996530
I personally am not a fan of PotD either, at least the way it's implemented. At least you can argue that it barely had combat mechanics in the 1-50 range outside of maybe exploding slimes raping everything, so not knowing how to play your class wouldn't probably hinder you so much. Didn't really do 50-200 so I can't speak for it.
I can only say this as someone who's used to the game, though, because I honestly can't imagine what a clusterfuck PotD is for a new player.

>>162996535
I dunno, playing a tank someone would assume that taking less damage is more beneficial for the group than not. And why wouldn't you?
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>>162996965
Because if you read the tooltip, Defiance does not lower damage received, it barely increases your health at that time, increases your enmity generated and reduces your damage dealt
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>>162991204
I wouldnt agree with that but sure,

I spent like 1600 hours levelling to 60

and a total of 5 hours in Alexander/ffxiv raids in general because theyre so easy, its a little underwhelming desu
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>>162997006
Oh, and increased received healing. But again, if everything worked in the first 30 levels without Defiance, and you now have a job stone's stat increase, why would you use Defiance? You wouldn't until that very dungeon teaches you that you need it if you plan to actually hold enmity
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Jfnwj, knfjan xo cqn 'rvvxacju'.
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I'll say it before and I'll say it again
Please DO NOT try to make elezen FotM. Most if you can't even make decent easy mode cats and lizards, some of you even fuck up on Lalafell.
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>>162997000
checked
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>>162997175
B-but my generic catgirl and femra are not getting any (You) anymore!
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>>162997102
>>162997006
Well yeah I messed that up a bit, sorry, it's not a straight up damage reduction.
Sure everything below 30 easily worked like that (although I honestly wouldn't be so sure as you only get BB at 30 and level-synced people can easily catch up in aggro with you), but why wouldn't you want to be more beefy as a tank even if it means you do somewhat less damage? There's no reason not to as the game doesn't go all-out "you have to deeps as a tank all the time" at low levels.
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>>162996909
Do it, anon.
Join us.
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>>162997175
Is it okay if I post my old elezen?
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>>162997175
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>>162997175

Nothing wrong with more variety
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>>162997362
>although I honestly wouldn't be so sure
You don't need Butcher's Block UNTIL level 30 as a MRD, that's the problem. It is much easier to hold enmity as a MRD than it is as a Gladiator because Overpower is incredibly stupid at low levels, Maim is incredibly stupid at low levels and Bloodbath is incredibly funny. The only reason Gladiator suffered as much as it did up until Rage of Halone is because Flash really sucked before its enmity change, it still does and Savage Blade was only so good. Gladiator would run into an issue in Halatali after the DPS stat increase, whereas MRD had no chance of losing enmity in Halatali. And again, you do not know that you need Defiance to hold enmity until you actually do that dungeon. In a similar vain, you do not know that you DON'T need Shield Oath in that very same dungeon in order to hold enmity just fine as a PLD. Which is very funny because people who are new to PLD still spend the entire time crying about not having Shield Oath before they actually need it at Stone Vigil
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>>162997546
>tfw recognize that Duskwight
>never got to suck those Z-cup tits
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>>162997613
*similar vein
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>>162997738
Did you improve your drawing skills or are they still terrible?
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>>162997613
Still, it's just one skill compared to getting all of your skills at once. You don't see a difference there?
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>>162997458
what a cute Ara ara~
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>>162997810
Nani?
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>>162997873
It's a mechanical difference that you can only judge from reading a tooltip and the actual experience of a dungeon. This is why people who relied on Palace of the Dead to level a Warrior can't do ANYTHING. A potion buyer will be forced to learn their job as soon as they enter a dungeon. Just as Brayflox teaches WHMs to actually use Esuna, ASTs to actually use Essential Dignity, SCHs to stop alt-tabbing and actually Adlo once in a while, and Haukke teaches WARs to actually use Defiance, Sohm Al currently teaches every single person to stop sucking at the very basics of their job at 53 even if you had bought into a jump potion. The similarity between these dungeons is that they are all necessary in their respective expansions. Just like SB's mandatory dungeons.

Dungeons are easy because they're designed in a way to reward good gear but not make gear required to actually clear. This is why ARR dungeons can all be done in Disciple of the Land gear. But again, you'll wipe the run if you don't know the basics of your job
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>>162997634

Well I haven't either anon
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Were all normal tripfags blocked?
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How do I fix "unable to download patch files" on PS4? It does this around 1gb every time.
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>>162998859
Play on PC.
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>>162996909
>>162997414
elezen are neat
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>>162999342

ho ho ho
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>>162981204
>holo sage wolf
>valette renaux
>xemnas
what fucking epic names
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>>162981204
That's how potato jews are born.
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Ban all thirsty male characters. (That's all of them)
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>>162999027
But it was gifted to me on PS4 where my friend plays. Why would I buy it on PC too?
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>>162999643
dont hate me because i was born this way
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>>162998859
>unable to download patch files

1. restart>restart>restart
2. open ports for your ps4 can help
3. Try reinstall
4. Turn your PS4 in safe mode >rebuild your database
5. (extrem solution) format your HHD
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>>162999909
Tell that to all the people who hate me for my dick.
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>>162999909
>>163000129
Thirsty male characters must be removed. There is no other way to save this thread and the game.
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>>163000216
>male
Are you assuming my gender?
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>>163000316
I can feel the water molecules being evaporated near you, thus there is no assuming. It is a clear fact.
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>>163000216
Please ban us. We MUST be stopped.
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>>163000474
Why did you break up with Spukiscales?
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>>163000564
I'm a free spirit, I can't be chained.
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>>162999938
/pet /pet /pet
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>Grownman posting at an all time low
>Thread is actually readable
Yea it's the male characters that are a problem lmao.
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Which maid would you hire to clean your house?
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>>163000854
They are though. Notice that maleposting is at an all-time low as well. I am quite sure that male characters are the biggest shitposters here due to being jealous of all the attention superior female characters get.
Problem is, if you play a female character you are bound to get male characters creeping on you, trying to date you irl.
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>>163001121
ugly, give me catgirl or lizardgirl maid
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>>163000216
Ore wo dare da to omotte yagaru?
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>>163001121
The one on the left looks like she can clean smegma off of my cock well.
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>>163001121
All of them!
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>>163001225
Disgusting.
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>>163001131
The biggest creeposters are females
Creepyscales
Paks
The biggest shitposters are also female
Abe
Putt
Elk
Mumu
Evie
Mado
Awena
Naka
Shrek
Yysara
Shirou
All of softs static
To what Ippiki, sad elezen(dead) and mittens(half a man)
Get off your rocker
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>>163001131
sorry i will make up for it and post my incredibly good looking christmas glamour again
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>>163001540
>not listed
whew, guess i'm an ok guy
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come to gilga :) we're friendly :)
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>>163001540
Wrong.
>>163001657
Here it is. The biggest shitposter of them all.
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>>163001812
come to Exodus instead, we help new players
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>>163001812
(:
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come relax on balmung~
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>>163001540
>half

is it because im dead on the inside?
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>>163001941
>come relax on balmung
You mean
>Come get your bagina smelt by the 10,000 thirsty neckbeards roleplaying as a female c@ with a dick
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>>163001971
It's because that anon has a crush on you
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>>163001121
The one on the left looks like she would take too many smoke breaks.

The one in the middle looks like she might break things on accident.

The one on the right looks fairly pleasant to be around.

I choose right.
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Behemoth...
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>>163001941
>>163000819
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>>163001838
Oh I'm sorry let me continue
Nakaii
Liora
Sera
That dumb red cat in the monk gear
Epp
Rune
Moni
Seto
Ada
Verja
Spider(in the past)
Renko
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>>163000216
Truly a plight on the XIV community at large. Should totally write a online petition, that'll show them!
>>
>>163001971
You're also a female cat
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>>163002003
If I was falling asleep due to jelly overdose, this would certainly be the best thing I'd want to see before I pass.
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>>163001540
>>163002162
if i'm not listed does that mean i'm a certified pillar of the community
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>>163002265
No, you are somebody no one cares about.
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>>163002265
No it means you weren't important enough to even be acknowledged.
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>>163001540
Whats a creepposter?
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>>163002247
yeah like 6 months ago now my dude
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>>163001540
>>163002162
None of them shitpost as much as male characters, though.
Plus, at least half of the people you mentioned are good posters.
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>>163000216
I can't wait to be removed from this thread and existence
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>>163002475
Existence is reasonable. Let's make things better.
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>>163002475
Find a purpose in life and follow it. Serve me and I will give your life a purpose.
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>>163001121
Would probably hurt my wallet but all of you. Okay I guess I prefer the brown one.
>Consuela, do you have green card?
>>
>>163002162
>Liora
o boy, who did i creep on
>>
>>163002769
Just so you know, it is illegal to fornicate with your servants in Eorzea.
>>
What if we have been lied to all along?What if female characters were actually more thirsty than male characters?

Really makes your thinker tinker.
>>
>>163002875
It's also scary.
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>>163002867
its also illegal to rape them, so?
>>
>>163002875
What if it doesn't actually matter whether the character is male or female? Okay, imagine this. What if the thirst is from the person?
>>
>>163002875
generally they are yeah
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>>163002725
_ _ buying gf
>>
>>163002725
R.E.
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>>163002867
DAMMIT!
>>
>>163002973
males are thirsty af
dont get me wrong tons of female characters are thirsty like sahara themselves but pretty much every dude that plays a male will flirt with you and def try to get you in a relationship if he finds out you're a girl irl
>>
>>163002635
Ugh not you again
>>163002560
Feel free to purge me whenever you know where to find me
Steps of Nald
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>>163003128
Not true, because honestly shit like that is a fucking hassle.
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>>163003128
>pretty much every dude that plays a male will flirt with you and def try to get you in a relationship if he finds out you're a girl irl
And pretty much most female characters I've met ingame have said some incredibly dubious things just because of my character choice. Thirst is universal
>>
>>163002425
>>163002427
the truth hurts
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>>163003128
Is this thread a good example of that? Because I frequently see female c@s asking about gc and slutposting to eachother all over these threads. If they aren't more thirsty they're pretty fucking close.

You're probably one of them aren't you? Would you care for a drink? :^)
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>>163003437
i could go for a nice mug of piss, yes
>>
>>163003208
>Ugh not you again
Oh...
Do you really hate Elezen ladies that much?
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>>163002725
G.W
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>>163002725
E.U.
>>
>>163003507
Elezen are pretty I'm just not the kind to 'serve'
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>>163002820
Part of attention posters
As you intentionally set off chemo for giggles.
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>>163002725
A.A.
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>>163003612
The European Union is real charming
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>>163003332
Bright side is no one will shit post about you and make you look like an ass.
>>
>bans are lifted
>shitpost hour returns

here we go again
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>>163002725
E.K.
>>
>>163003686
Just report them
Reporting them got them banned
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>>163003612
Stay away UK we don't want you back
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Hello is it Christmas yet
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I'm bored does anyone want to do Sophia or something else in DF/RF?
>>
>>163003301
>>163003437
per capita, not in absolute numbers although i haven't had any problems with female characters apart from 3 guys.
but males? like 8 out of 10 try to hit on me at least at one point in our friendship
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>>163003815
NO_
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>>163003657
chemo's a big boy, he's(you) responsible for his own actions.
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>>163003751
>Eun will never notice you
why even live desu...
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>>163003078
Be happy that I don't report you to the authorities for kidnapping so many of them!
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>>163003963
Cute.
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>>163003917
>my anecdotes with 0 evidence are more valid than what we have seen exhibited here for years
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>>163003917
Are you an actual female and have you spoken on voice chat with them to confirm such?

Because that would be a pretty normal progression of things.
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>>163002725
S.T
>>
anyone on balmung want to do expert and maybe 60 roulette, ill wait for 5-6 mins before I queue

pst Ixara Thorne
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>>163003815
all i want for christmas is you...
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>>163004137
Want to do the 2 new dungeons with me so I can unlock expert?
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>>163004103
yes and yes with some
its incredibly annoying. i just want to play the game, not deal with the stupid shit they want.
>>
>>163002725
E.F
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>>163004334
Let me ask the other person who was gonna join, I don't mind. I can help you later otherwise, what is your name
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>farming bis ex for the bird
>run into to many tanks who donno how to provoke swap.
It's not that fucking hard.
>>
Sue is the biggest esl of this general

Post that BR pic with him talking in game
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>>163002725
bpbp
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>>163004339
Well that is too bad, that is how male and female interaction works. You can be friends with them, but they're going to want to fuck you at some point.

Welcome to humanity. You're be thirsty yourself for that attention when you're not getting any if you don't act on it eventually.

I'm sure you'll just continue to blog about it for the attention it gets you and die a dusty, lonely cat lady though. Fujos are really self destructive and its kind of sad.
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>>163004643
Did you try telling them how to do it properly, shortman?
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>>163004643
The real problem is that no regular content actually forces you to tank swap. The first use of it was Turn 2. Even when Ultima HM was added, the average tank wasn't used to it at all, and now it's only ever used in EX trials and raids
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>>163004721
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>>163004769
Of course, and they somehow still eff it up.
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>>163004834
>>163004834
>>163004834
Migrate
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>>163004832
What flavor is red?
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