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Previous >>162923452

>[Grand Time Temple Solomon]
http://cms.fate-go.jp/web/2016/uuzjp2/
Raid during late December, must clear Babylonia to participate

>[Babylonia Release Gacha]
http://cms.fate-go.jp/web/2016/0jbeo7/
- From 12/7 to 12/31
- 5* Enkidu (Lancer)
- 4* Gilgamesh (Caster)(Bride)
- 4* Medusa (Lancer)

>[Babylonia Gacha Part 2]
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/c3tgrg/
- From 12/14 to 12/31
- 5* Quetzalcoatl (Rider)
- 4* Gorgon (Avenger)
- 3* Jaguarman (Lancer)

>5* Demonic Buddha
50% NP Charge, Increase Overcharge by 2 (1 time)
>4* Room Guarder
Star Attraction +300%, reduce 300 damage
>3* Seeker of Miracles
+15% NP damage up when equipped on Divine Servants

>[Events]
- 1/2 AP all Orders
- From 12/7 to 12/21 everyone is getting 2 Golden Apple per day
- Fate Project TV CE (+50 Mystic Code EXP)

>News
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- New ver - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- FGO Special Anime will air on 12/31. TV Project series confirmed for next year.
- Da Vinci-chan Code event Japan only

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>Extella spoilers
http://pastebin.com/9Ai1Tg9i

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>CMs
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip
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xth for potato
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Best
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Can we continue sexualizing Shuten?
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>>162941982
looks more like Luvia than a Rinface in this pic desu
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>>162941982
Best goddess.
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>>162942132
no, this kind of behaviour needs to be stamped out
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>>162942113
Emperor Gawainbane when?
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I want them to be happy.
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>have some people in NP2+
>all but one are AoE NPs and Casters
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>>162942260
>asanagi
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>>162942132
That looks excessively painful, those canines are going in deep.
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Best oni.
Best assassin.
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I don't know what to post so early
Here is some hakunon bullying
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>>162942378
It's fine, don't worry about it.
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>>162942132
Is she crying? Why is she crying?
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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>>162942339
My wife.
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>>162942154

So we learned he's got A+ Agility and something below A rank Strength from his fight with Enkidu.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI_9Qvq1HgM
Lancelot Thread!
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>>162942429
I'm averse to pain, I think I'll stick to my waifus that don't bleed me out just because they feel like it.
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Mordred is a SLUT who gets GANGBANGED by the entire Round Table
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>162942495
SO U BE SAYIN

DAT WE WUZ KNIGGTHS N SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEET
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>>162942594
>Bedivere then
>>162942564
>Bedivere now
What the fuck happened?
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>>162942564
Me in the middle
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>>162942260
Wondering why Asanagi chose to draw her horns curved like that.
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Skill max order for Ruler Martha?
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>>162942449

Saber's speed there was thanks to body-strengthening magecraft cast by some member of his shadow clique but yes, he is able to hit A+ speed with it
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Collab with drifters when?
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Robin + Emiya a best.
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>>162942564
>dumb blonde from a broken home that left her with a heap of daddy issues and confusion about her gender
I can see how she might fit into a certain stereotype.
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>>162942125
In being shit and sick
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>>162942113
Rider Gorilla when?
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>>162942706
Not much, he just used to have a bigger chin
Funnily enough, back then he had Scat's VA, so while he looked manlier he sounded like a girl
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Who would you rather have as Saber support

>Altera
>Arturia
>NP3 Saberlot
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>>162942337
>CasGil probably goes out of his way to avoid Enkidu in Chaldea
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>>162942125
NP and skill Interlude when
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>>162942937
He can't escape forever
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>>162942721
asanagi is a shitter who doesn't even pay attention to original character designs

his gbf designs are equally shit adaptations
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>>162942860
5 minutes
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>>162942918
Saberlot
There are too many Arturias and Altera in my support list and there are never any Saberlots around for me to meme with
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>>162942824
It made for a colorful childhood.
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>>162942937

Ko-Gil too, I imagine.

Only Archer Gil seems to be the type to long for Enkidu's presence.
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Reminder
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>>162942564
I still don't understand why would Gawain exchanged his actual body armor with some leather and a cloak.
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Stop swapping your Mashu and Dantes all the time! Make up your mind already!
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>>162943102
Why Ko-Gil too?
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>>162943021
Seeing limbless Cag get fucked hard was kinda hot, though.
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>>162943083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjTBUJU03WI
Mordred gets something too.
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>>162943149

Because with Numeral of the Saint active, even his right nipple greatly dwarfs the HUGE of his foes.
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>>162943179
Mashu Avenger when?
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>>162943149
Makes it easier for him to burst out into his true final form
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>>162943160

That PTSD tho

Poor Billy
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Shisou thread.
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>>162943160
Billy is probably my favorite new 3* character, probably the only one I'd grail. Wish he got more play but I guess that's the curse of having low rarity.
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>Manaka has fans
I have no hope left for humanity
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>>162943042
What is going on here and why does it look so lewd?
>Gawain has the strength to pin down Lancelot and pillage his fairy realm and there's nothing he can do to stop it.
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>>162942706
He removed his stilts.
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>>162942564
No wonder people thought Arturia was a man with Bedi around.
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>>162942937
Didn't he just not give a fuck about fake Enkidu precisely because he knew he was a fake?
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>>162943149
Because he looks good in it.
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Can anyone confirm if this limited gacha has Caster Gil, Enkidu and Lancer Medusa?
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>>162943364
Neither does Manaka, so you're in good company.
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>>162943331
this is one of my favorite Scat pictures, she looks really elegant with her hair up

>>162943523
yes, it does. They are not limited so they exist in all gachas
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>Gil dindu nuffin he just wants spaceships
Where does this info come from? Extella?
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>>162943523
I rolled Medusa lily there so yeah
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What would happen if the Knights of the Round Table fought somebody using the sword Shieldbreaker? It's a divine construct specifically designed to destroy other weapons, including other divine constructs, but Arondight supposedly can't be broken either. Would it trigger a Broken Phantasm?
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>>162943523
I rolled Enkidu on it so yeah
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>>162943523
It does, they are not time-limited.
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>>162943216
I prefer the lullaby.
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>>162943581
CCC
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Speedwagon if you're here I just wanna say your Mona Lisa CE is much appreciated
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>>162943581

CCC

And no it's the opposite of dindu, Gil didu a lotta shit still, it's just he had a reason behind it beyond just being an asshole
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>>162943179
All slot was a mistake.
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>>162943593
>Shieldbreaker
>destroys weapons instead of shields
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Anyone got a high-res pic of Ruler Martha's final art?
I need it for, uh, research reasons.
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>>162943679
This. Being given a good reason for doing something does not mean that they didn't do the thing.
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>haha Lunch CE on a shitty 1* servant so epic lmao
Give your Lunch CE to Waver you stupid fuckers.
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>>162943364
Neither do I
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Left or Right?
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>>162943179
Too bad, I'll swap between vanilla Jannu, Dantés, Mashu and Gorgon now.
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>>162943593
>destroying a thing that can't get destroyed
maybe Arondight just gets turned into a cute girl
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>>162943581
CCC. It goes into a bit of backstory about why he rejected the gods. Turns out he was shown a vision of a future where, if he and humanity rejected the gods, humankind would eventually grow and prosper to the point where they spread across the stars in great spaceships. And he thought that looked really fancy. And that's why he settled things with the gods.
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Who needs sabers when you have best dog?
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>>162943857
Left isn't a prostitute.
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>>162943828
No fuck you. Roll good Servants and keep the support in the backline.
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>>162943929
Cu Saber when?
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>>162943929
>le dog meme
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>>162943857
Left, she knows how to work a dick while Rin would just call you a baka and whine
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>>162943480
In his Myroom lines CasGil indicates that he feels like he no longer has the freedom to speak with Enkidu, cos it was his death that made Gil the good king he is as CasGil.
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>>162943679
The whole prima nocta thing and the killing people on a whim that he did was pretty much just him being an asshole, though.
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>>162943480
He actually gave a fuck that's why he gave Kingu his grail to heal himself. He didn't want to see Enkidu's body in such a bad state again.

Caster Gil said he lost the right to talk and see Enkidu now because his death is the reason he became a king again, in other words, he matured and decided to rebuild his kingdom. He got angry when he learned that they stole Enkidu's body but he knew Kingu was not at fault for this though. At the end when IshRin asks him if he has any regrets watching Enkidu dying again he said he has none because while the first time he had to say goodbye to him in tears, this time he sees the brave figure once again fighting till the end. Something that will forever burn on his eyes.
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>>162943401
Huh? 'What am I doing?' As you can see, I'm stretching.
I'm surprised that Sir Lancelot would make such strange noises.
It's alright, sir. Leave it up to me. I perfectly understand your body.


Something like that I guess, I can't read moonrunes that well.
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>>162943857
Probably left. She pleases men out of love, whereas right does it for money.
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Who got all 3 goddesses here?
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>>162943728
>>162943883
I shatter Swords and splinter spears;
None stands to Shieldbreaker.
My point's the fount of orphans' tears
My edge the widowmaker.
It's an A++ Rank Noble Phantasm with the conceptual effect "will destroy any weapon it strikes". The perfect weapon against armed combatants. Negative effect- the one who holds it is unable to harm unarmed opponents.

>>162943974
He qualifies.
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>>162943860
We need 2 more slots for Ruler and Avenger.
Mashu can keep the All slot.
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>>162943364
Then you're exactly the sort of person who should appreciate Manaka.
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>>162943679
I don't dislike Gil, desu Caster Gil seems to be a pretty cool asshole and mankind getting it's shit together and starting to conquer space is kinda my hope for the future as well.
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>>162944110
I got Ishtar and Quetz, but Mashu is my goddess.
Insert 500days.jpg
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>>162944082
Thanks for your effort regardless.
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>>162944305
I don't want them to kill Mashu. I wanna have cute babies with her.
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>>162943857
>knows how to please men
>knows how to please old men
If I'm only allowed to take used goods, at least give me the cute one.
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>>162943857
Both, they're both the two best girls; Nasu and Takuchi agree.
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>>162943857
I'd rather an actual pure maiden myself.
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>>162944305
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What are your top bonds, /fgog/? Do you feel confident?
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>>162944110
2/3 here
Ishtar and Gorgon
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>>162944405
>given a choice between three sorts of used goods
>he picks the cheapest one
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>>162944685
5 because bond CE is a meme
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Translate it weebs.
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reminder that Quetzalcoatl is cucking you for Mistico

>>162944819
it's just her bond lines
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>>162944685
Saber Alter, Ushi, Andersen at 10
Drake at 9, Shiki at 7

we got this
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>>162944595
Thanks, I forgot backup a copy in my phone.
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>>162944685
Medea, Daughteru and Mi Capitan at 7, then Arturia, Lancer Doggo and Berserksalot at 6. I just hope I survive with clutch Mashu.
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>>162944685
Lancer Cu at 8.
Solomon is not prepared.
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>you cannot use your old servants in any new order released after the Solomon raid
>all the bond level did was get you a goodbye message from the servants whose bond level you maxed
How mad would you be?
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>>162943593

When two opposing concepts collide, there are two possibilities.

The first is that the stronger concept prevails over the weaker one, all or nothing. This is evident with Godhand, which is B rank, vs. Excalibur, which is A++ rank. A weak Excaliblast manages to take off two of Berserker's lives even though Godhand is the concept of immortality because A++ > B. In this case, there's simply no way for the conflict of concepts to be resolved except that one fails and the other succeeds. So it goes to the one with the higher rank.

However, if the concepts are of roughly equal mystery, like Rho Aias vs. Gae Bolg, or Fragarach vs. Gae Bolg, the world creates a compromise so that the conditions of both concepts are fulfilled. Gae Bolg's thrown version is said to (not guaranteed to!) always kill the opponent due to a curse that causes it to home in on and always strike the target, which is separate from another curse in the spear that causes deadly barbs to explode through the target when it pierces them. Rho Aias's concept is that it will never be pierced by projectiles. When they collided, Gae Bolg destroyed Rho Aias and wounded Archer with the collateral explosion - fulfilling that it does strike the target - but it was simultaneously deflected and returned to Lancer, fulfilling Rho Aias's concept. You might think that means Gae Bolg lost, but the curse of killing barbs only triggers when the spear actually pierces the enemy. It failed to kill Archer because the spear did not penetrate his body, hence the barbed curse never activated in the first place. Both Lancer and Archer state that their NP lost in that exchange, but obviously that means both also won, in a way.

So to answer your question, because there is no way to compromise between two concepts that directly contradict each other like Shieldbreaker and Arondight of breaking any weapon and being a weapon that is unbreakable, it would go to the weapon with the higher mystery (rank).
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>>162945047
Industrial Salt Accident/10

I hope DW implements a Hard Mode and NG+ to the game after the Solomon raid is finished, instead of just moving on to Part 2.
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>>162945047
I don't even wanna think about such an impossibility.
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>>162944685
Max bond: Herakles, Waver and Carmilla. I should manage.
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>>162944836
I am Mistico though.
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Game is being so kind today.
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>>162943331
Best girl!
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>>162945047
Class-action lawsuit/10
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>>162945186
Richard's gonna end up bald.
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>>162945047
I only have a few Servants that I really want to use pearmanently, my rage of not being able to use them would be appeased by whales committing suicide and /fgog/ shitposting.
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>>162945132
I hope if they do that they swap the good and bad guys in each order

>Jeanne Alter for the story support in Orleans
>Nero is the villain in Septem
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>>162943857
Left.
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>>162944685
Altera and Waver about to hit 9.

I'm not gonna make it.
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>5 boar hearts in a row
Who /ruckii~/ here?
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>>162945274
What if Richard needs thiose to ascend?
He starts bald, then Paracelsus-tier long hair at max ascend.
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>>162945410
Soft keks will be had.
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>>162943857
left
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>>162943857
Right has a bigger ass.
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>>162945362
>Mordred contemplating if you can say "no homo" after giving your first time to another woman to remain a Virginia
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>>162945356
>Invading a (more) corrupt Roman Empire ran by the Whore of Babylon with the Huns to save the world.

All my money.
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>>162944685
>10
Medusa, Saber Alter, Okita and Nobu.
>9
Scat
>8
Shiki

I'm fine.
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>>162945132
I can see them raising the level cap. A continuation wouldn't really work well otherwise. Figuring out how to present players with challenges and give them a sense of progression when players have already hit the roof sounds like it'd be more difficult than just elevating that roof.
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>>162945527
>Virginia
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>>162945527
>Virginia
Auto-correct is a hell of a drug
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>>162944769
I don't know, I rather like a latent 15% attack increase for my entire party. Hard to think of a better replacement.
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>>162945094
What if Shieldbreaker was A++?
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>>162944685
My highest is Heracles at level 8, everyone else who's above 5 is only at 6. Gilgamesh is about 1000 points away from 7.
I feel perfectly confident though because there's no way they're going to make you go higher than 5 for the "important bond level" or whatever, since Mashu can't go above 5 yet. Maybe just a bonus for the servants you have that are above 5.
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>>162945682
Then it still wouldn't do jack or shit to Tiamat.
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>>162945594
But how? Grails aplenty to Limit break 100? I think the correct course is to introduce more mechanics like the field effects from the last Babylon battles. Like an NP drain field that encourages either crits or stalling.
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Which GO original servant NP would you love to see animated and by which studio?
>Raikou
>MAPPA
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>>162945682

Then it all comes down to the nitty-gritty of which sword is higher up on the totem pole in Gaia's eyes, which would unfortunately probably be Arondight due to it being crafted by fairies which are as high as one can get on Gaia's totem pole.
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>>162945809
>EMIYA
>Ufotable
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so what exactly happened to Manaka? in the pics of the early chapters of fragments she's look a cute and good loli but in the end of the war she turned a maniac

note, I don't read fragments only I see the pics
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>>162944685
Altera, Waver, Berseker Vlad, Saber Alter, Heracles

Should be pretty solid
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>>162945809
Babbage by Sunrise. With Obari on the helm.
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>>162945594
We haven't hit the Level Cap yet. The missions in Babylon were listed at "Level 80" and could for the most part all be completed by properly utilizing Level 70 silvers. At the absolute most, you might need a higher level support.

Babylon was not hard. Making it more challenging wouldn't required raising the level cap, especially if they continue to shit out grails to raise up lower level servants.
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>>162945870
Fairies are a type of Elemental, and Gods decay into Elementals though. Wouldn't Gods > Fairies?
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>>162945893
Arthur when?
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>>162945980

I dunno, lol
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>>162944685
Nursery Rhyme and EMIYA both at 9.
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Why are people farming bonds suddenly? Will bond CEs be locked or something?
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What are you grinding right now? I'm working on getting my bronzes to max for no real reason.
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>>162942745
3>2=1 I'd say.
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>>162945870
>>162945980
Shieldbreaker was made by the god Vulcan in the Book of Swords, and it required the sacrifice of a human life in order to make it. So there is that.
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>>162944836
>>162945174
>That shit taste in luchadores
More like, Botchzalcoatl
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This is Anego, say something nice about her
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Did we ever get any info on Mankind's other six sins?
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What are some good CEs for Taiga?
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>>162946107

The new event says you need to reach an unspecified bond level to get something also unspecified.

So people are farming in case you need a certain bond level to use Servants, to not get hit with nerfs going into the raid, or in case having your bond levels above a certain value gives buffs for the raid.
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>Scathach is afraid of Altera, says Solomon's Demon Pillar is close to something that she killed once in her realm, and is excited to fight Partial Spirit Artemis
Where is her power level then?
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>>162946195
Shirou
Another ending
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>>162946135
old hags not welcome
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>>162946171
Miscegenation, Masturbation, Mastication, Matador Nation, and Mama are the only ones known.
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>>162946226
Strong but ambiguously indefinite so she can beat people or be beaten as an author requires.
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>>162946171
>Its been two days, did we ever find out all the answers and shit yet?

How long has it been since we haven't known all the DAA? Nasu creates systems of numbers in order to keep people biting like this, you aren't supposed to find out quickly.
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>>162945893
Nothing really happened. She was never good to begin with. One of the first conversations she has with Arthur is about her suggesting they should try to kidnap, torture, or murder the children of rival masters as an easy way to knock them out of the race, and Arthur has to put his foot down. She was just shit from the very start.
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>>162946226

She's a god killer so shit like demon pillars and divine spirits are no sweat to her, but other heroes, especially alien minds, are shit she's never had to deal with so she's out of her element with them

She drawed with regular Cu and lost badly to the first Cu we've seen who wasn't nerfed to shit.
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>>162946135
She's cute
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Chichiue
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>>162944685
Kiyo and Waver at 8.
I don't care enough to farm bond.
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i killed youre waifu
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>>162946249
>not liking BBA
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>>162945410
I'll frankly be disappointed if he doesn't need a shitload to ascend and level his skills.

Hopefully the Japs meme it enough that Nasu being the memelord that he is makes it happen.
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>>162946114
Grinding QP while I can for clay polishing
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>>162946443

Chichi-ue needs a big, strong, bull to breed her. Only a black man can give her enough cock to satisfy her. Weak white penis would wilt at the sight of those tits; it is unworthy of her.
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>>162946443
I want to Ue her chichis
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>>162946114
Grinding for XP cards today, working on leveling up and ascending my NR since I need a better 4* Caster for my support list, then I'm gonna work on getting my Bikini Martha to 90.
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>>162946386
>>She's a god killer so shit like demon pillars and divine spirits are no sweat to her,

>He's a dragon slayer, so dragons are literal insects to him that he can piss on and they die

>He's a demon killer so demons die in his mere presence as they are absolute shit.

Not how it works. Being able to kill something only gives you an advantage or bonus, it doesn't make them easy. Seigfried vs Fafnir was still supposed to be the fight of his life as dragons are monsters above reason.

Nanaya were demon slayers and they got fucked up by demons a lot.
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>>162946465
Based Bluebeard.
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So why does Fou keep attacking Merlin?
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>>162946443
Best version of the king.
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>>162946226
Mid-High tier among Lancers. Weaker than Brynhildr, Lancer Arturia, Enkidu, Karna, and probably Romulus, but stronger than most other Lancers.
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>>162946346
she never loved her imouto? Ayaka seems to admire her a lot
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>>162946197
Thanks
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>>162946687
>is called Bluebeard
>does not have a blue beard
>does not have a beard at all
What the hell, Nasu?
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>>162946615

>Being able to kill something only gives you an advantage or bonus, it doesn't make them easy.

The skill is literally that it's easy for her to kill divine spirits and all their ilk because she's been doing it for eons. Much weaker Servants like Drake had absolutely no issue killing Poseidon, one of the three strongest Greek deities.

>Seigfried vs Fafnir was still supposed to be the fight of his life as dragons are monsters above reason.

Siegfried didn't have dragon slayer before he killed Fafnir. Fafnir was the only dragon he ever fought. If he fought any other dragons, they'd be literal ants to him compared to Fafnir.

>Nanaya were demon slayers and they got fucked up by demons a lot.

That's because they're shitters.
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>>162946731
Because Merlin is a dick-ass wizard.
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>>162946573
t. Sweden
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>>162946731
Merlin is a huge dick, if you aren't able to read the story

He wanted to teleport himself to safety at one point and leave the rest of you behind at one point, which got Fou angry.

He tricked Quetzl into destroying half of her divinity by getting her to throw an axe at a temple and break a promise

He's a trickster
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>>162946792
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>>162946804
I'd dick that wizard's ass if you know what I mean
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>>162946896
Oh, so that's what he did that pissed off Quetz so much. Dick move but funny.
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>>162946793
>The skill is literally that it's easy for her to kill divine spirits and all their ilk because she's been doing it for eons. Much weaker Servants like Drake had absolutely no issue killing Poseidon, one of the three strongest Greek deities.

She has it at B-Rank firstly, so clearly she's not the best Godslayer who ever lived. Secondly, she was only killing weak Irish deities, nothing compared to the gods of Greece, Babylon, India etc. who are what we have the most info on. Thirdly, Drake didn't kill Poseidon, she killed a wraith of Poseidon clinging to life with a Grail. Divine Spirits at the height of their power are vastly stronger than most Servants.

>Siegfried didn't have dragon slayer before he killed Fafnir. Fafnir was the only dragon he ever fought. If he fought any other dragons, they'd be literal ants to him compared to Fafnir.
Beowulf in Fate killed and ate enough dragons to form a hatred of them as well as develop a taste for their meat, and the toughest fight of his life was still the dragon at the end.

Having an anti-X skill doesn't mean you can blow them out of the water without even trying, it just gives a damage bonus.
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When will Bedi get his rate up?
He seems really fun to use for a silver saber
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>>162947006
Anon please, your anus would be defenseless
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>>162946731
Merlin's a dick. In both senses of the word.
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I kept forgetting 2030s were a thing, I can run a full frontline of LBd ones, but kept forgetting.
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>>162947120
First world whale problems.
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>>162946771
>she never loved her imouto?
No. Manaka was a monster and only ever loved Ayaka the way you might take a passing interest in a lone ant on a leaf.
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>>162947034
>Secondly, she was only killing weak Irish deities, nothing compared to the gods of Greece, Babylon, India etc. who are what we have the most info on.
headcanon antiwank
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>>162947034
Perhaps Beowulf did only kill the one dragon, but he clung on to life long enough to have Wiglaf prepare him a final meal with it?
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>>162947227
Name one Irish god that she's stated to have killed that would be important, like Nuada, Lugh, Balor etc.

>>162947259
That's funny, but unlikely.
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>still no art
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>>162947301
we have no idea who she killed. you're unwanking her with fanon.
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>>162947336
That smug is excellent.
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what Enkidu's skill I should ascending first or in what order?
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>>162947336
>chicken hands
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>>162947336
>boobs bigger than her head
she looks pitiful
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>>162947030
Quetz said she couldn't attack Gorgon or else she'd suffer a penalty, even attacking her temple is bad. They needed to throw Marduk's axe at the temple. Merlin lied and said she only needed to throw it near the temple. At the end he changed the trajectory so it would hit the temple full on, which blasted Quetzl.
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>>162947336
I'm not much into monster girls but I'd fuck the smug right off of her face honestly.
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>>162947442
1 > 3 > 2
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Why are Sanzou's clothes so weird?
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Boudica has Roman slayer skill

She could probably kill all the Romas at once in FGO. We know for a fact that she could BTFO any Roman without breaking a sweat.
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>>162947564
It's hot outside.
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>>162947384
Exactly. We have no idea who she killed, and yet she says she's killed "countless" Divine Spirits. She hardly depopulated the Celtic pantheon, we know that Fionn was the one who killed Nuada and Lugh was alive after Cu. We're never told who she's killed, and I'm certain that Scathach lived well after the height of the Age of the Gods in Babylon and even the beginning of the decline like India and Greece. Saying that she killed Divine Spirits on that level is utterly baseless. You can't tell me I'm wrong when you've no evidence yourself, and the mechanics of the world suggest that the gods would have been weaker then.
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>>162947530
She would probably be even more smug after seeing your dick
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>>162946804
>>162946896
>>162947105
Great, now I'm getting ideas of rolling for this dick.
Thanks for the clarification anyway, anons.
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>>162947071
He's welcome to dick my ass after, I'm not fussed
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>>162947693
You don't know about the strength of my sword, anon.
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>>162947680
Weren't the Celt Gods kinda low in Divine Spirit power levels in the first place?
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>>162945545
about Altera...
anyone has ever found out who the hell was the "holy sword Wielder"?
totally we will get some kind of Grand Saber soon.

also , Tiemat is Velber 3
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>>162947793
That's my point. Saying that Scathach can kill Greek or Babylonian gods because she killed some nameless Celt gods is dumb.
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>>162946771
The closest thing to a genuinely human emotion Manaka ever felt towards Ayaka was jealously, because she sensed Arthur on her from when he was there and swore to protect Ayaka just a few hours before.
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>>162947790
That was supposed to be smug redman fuck
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>>162947793

Yes. Highest are Babylon, Hindu, and Japanese from what we know so far. The Greek/Roman gods are pretty weak such that Altera was able to fight all of them combined and win.
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>>162944685
I'll be okay.
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>>162947529
Quetz was kind of a dumbass to do so anyways, really.

>>162947680
>>162947384
Scat didn't kill Divine Spirits while they were alive to begin with. She sat on the edge between the land of the living and the dead, and some of those dead things included gods. When they'd try to leave, she would kill them. They were already dead. Keep in mind, it's not like she was fighting Ere-chan head on. She was fighting things that were already vestiges of their full power.
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>>162947895
Whoever Gaia picked to swing the thing.

I think the sword did most of the heavy lifting, as Altera last showed up before humans were even really settled.

Probably just plucked a caveman, gave them the thing and told to swing away.
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>>162947680
No, I can say I don't know and I can say your claims are bullshit. She could have killed all the shitty Japanese toilet gods or she could have rocked some elder god level shit. We have no clue. You have no basis in your claims other than trying to downplay her.
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If Gilgamesh was the first hero, wouldn't he have been recognized as the greatest fighter of his era? If so, why doesn't he have EAM?
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>>162947998
Sefar, not Altera.
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>>162947998
>Babylon
>Hindu
Okay, old as fuck

>Japanese
Thanks Nasu
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>>162947650
But could she defeat Dr. Roman?
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>>162947790
>>162947962
>Lancers using Swords
>Archers using Swords

What's next, Sabers using swords?
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>>162948073

No, Altera. Sefar fought the primordial gods that predate all the pantheons. Altera fought the Roman pantheon when she sacked Rome and she kicked their weak asses back to Olympus.
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>>162948070
Babylonians had higher standards.
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>>162944685
>10
Nobu, Seibah, Jannu, Scat, Shakes

>9
Karma

He's ded.
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>>162947680
No, I can say I don't know and I can say your claims are bullshit. She could have killed all the shitty Japanese toilet gods or she could have rocked some elder god level shit. We have no clue. You have no basis in your claims other than trying to downplay her.

>>162948041
No Scat got to that point because she killed too much. Now part of her daily routine involves fending off dead hordes including dead gods.
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>>162948070
He only manifests it when summoned into the Saber class.

>>162947998
Aren't Japanese divine spirits pretty weak, actually? Even within their own mythology if I'm not mistaken, since there's so many of them.
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Is EMIYA really in his thirties?
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What's this Çatalhöyük that Gil wants to please?Google gives some small village.Did Nasu chose it cause of those Mother Goddess statues?
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>>162947650
>get destroyed by Romans
>anti roman

What did he mean by this
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>>162948297
Maybe they just match Hindu and Babylonian deities in power by virtue of Zerg Rush?
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>>162947998
>Yes. Highest are Babylon, Hindu, and Japanese from what we know so far.

Highest are the ones that can't even be mentioned, you know the ones.

Also the forgotten ones like Kingprotea, and said to be on the same level as Kingprotea is Ammy.
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>>162948041
Gods are pretty easy to trick. They think only in powerlevel terms, and as such believe themselves to be above puny mortals. When puny mortals use deception to beat them, well, it's not something they expect.
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>>162947998
Sefar didn't fight the Greco-Roman pantheon. She fought the things that the Greco-Roman pantheon is derived from. For example, she didn't fight Ares, instead she fought some sort of primordial war deity whom Ares is derived from.
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>>162948274
I don't believe Scat was ever mentioned having every killed any gods before moving to Skye, Anon. If you can link me to where this happened, please do so.
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>>162948334

Late thirties, early forties. He spent at least two decades after his version of the 5th HGW to master UBW, ten to build the foundation by learning magecraft and the principles behind Reality Marbles and another ten to get it working. We never got a precise year or age that he died, but he had a long and full career as a mercenary-hero.
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>>162948062
The gods got less powerful as the Age of the Gods declined. The most accepted time for the Cattle Raid to have happened was around the first century AD, well after the decline had set in properly. By the rules of the setting, any god that existed at that time was weaker than the gods that existed around Babylon and ancient India. As well as that, they're not as old as those gods, which is another thing that gives them power.
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>>162948297
>Aren't Japanese divine spirits pretty weak, actually?
At least Amaterasu is apparently top tier.
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>>162948216
As long as we don't start seeing stacked Lancers riding horses while most Riders just stand on the ground like plebs, we should be alright.
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>To put it this way, they had sex before the Buddha. It seemed rough like Asura, but it also seemed gentle like Bodhisattva.
What did he mean by this?
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>stay up until 1am to finish Orleans so I can roll Quetz
>try ticket first, Fergus
>go 10x, Medusa, brat Gil, and two black mecha guys
Fuck
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>>162948469
She got cut off from the world by killing too many humans, beasts, and gods. She only became separated from the into the land of the dead because of all that killing. Even at the time of Cu's training, she was immortal but still part of the world and got fully cut off sometime after that.
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>>162948216
Sabers using [spoilers]bows[/spoiler].
Now that I think about it though, is there even a Saber that uses an actual saber-type sword? Does Astolfo use one? I can't remember, I don't even have that faggot and only used him during his trial quest.
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>>162948504
How old is Medea? Early thirties?
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>>162948668
So is the land of the dead just some mirror world scotland?
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>>162946573
this.
I body like this is not for a ridiculous little cock like mine
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>>162948670
D'eon
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Fergus is just absurdly strong, holy shit

Dem stats, dem skills, dat NP

How is Cu supposed to compete with him? How is Fergus not the greatest Irish hero?
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>yfw the Solomon raid gives a lot of bond points and farming now is a waste of time
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>>162948527
>The gods got less powerful as the Age of the Gods declined.
Citation needed. The gods stopped interacting with the world at large, but please show where they are stated to be overall weaker. There have always been strong gods and weak gods in ever pantheon,
>>
dude
ole
lmao
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>do a ten roll.
> get 1 shitty 4* CE.
>everything else is 3* trash and Taigawoman.
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I will be highly amused if, when Chiron is released, he gets into dick-waving contests with Scathach over their respective students.
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>>162948872
Personal skills.
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How often do you feed other servants to the servants you're leveling?
>inb4 ushiwakamaru
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>>162948872
Fionn exists.

>>162948907
Do you not know how everything works? As the Age of the Gods declined, everything got weaker. Gods went dormant, magecraft got less powerful, humans became capable of less and less. There's no arguing that, it's literally how it works. Unless you can provide a citation for Scathach killing gods on the level of the Babylonian or Hindu gods, then it's assumed that the Celt gods would be weaker than the Babylonian gods based on pure difference in age.
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I need a Riyo Mashu
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>>162948670
He's depicted in Apocrypha as having one in life, but it's not confirmed whether that's his Saber design yet.

I wouldn't mind if it was, the hat is very cute.
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>>162948957
SPINNY FLIPS AND DIVES
LUCHA LIBRE
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>>162948670
Astolfo uses a normal straight sword, the closes is the flat of the pirate lesbians i think

>>162948850
I through D'Eon uses a rapier, not a sabre
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>>162948872
Better question is how such an irrelevant mythos gets so much attention and wank.
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>>162948504
>a 35+ years old man is in love with a girl who has a 15 years old body
Emiya please
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>>162948872
Cu is faster, more ferocious, and craftier. Fergus is stronk as fuck though.
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>>162948670
He has a regular straight sword and a lance.
The only one with an actual saber I can think of is... a rider.
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>>162949263
Oh shit, you're right, I forgot about her. Not even a Saber though so I guess there really isn't a Saber that uses a saber.
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>>162948780
Hard to say. It mainly depends on how old she was when she left Colchis, and how long the journey between Colchis and Corinth lasted. Before she set off she could have been anywhere from her early teens to mid twenties. I would guess early twenties or late teenage years, though. I don't think the journey lasted more than a few years, maybe 2-4. After she arrived in Corinth she stayed there for ten years with Jason. After that, it gets hard to say again. Especially since her original profile suggested as a possibility that she may have lived as an immortal ruler in Elysium, but who even knows what creative differences present Nasu might have with past Nasu on that matter.
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>>162948780
I don't know why people still have that idea of Medea being very old.
She probably is in her late twenties
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What is skill max order for NR?
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>>162949105
So you have nothing? There is nothing to suggest each pantheon at its height was any weaker. As their faith diminished and declined, sure, but during their prime there is nothing to suggest that.
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>>162948668
>As the demonic realm, [The Shadow Realm's], gatekeeper, her continoual slaying of multitudes of divine spirits has become a skill.

She only started slaying Divine Spirits after she became the gatekeeper of the Land of Shadows, according to mats.
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>>162946768
>Weaker than Brynhildr
definitely no
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>>162946443
>>162946573
>6cm dick
would she even notice? ;_;
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>>162948872
Because Scathach exists.
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>>162949534
She would be very kind about it if she loved you.
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>>162949534
If she's 10/10 Bond level she will squirt
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>unironic cucks
>unironic "please old men for money"
how low can we go?
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>>162949534
Is probably what she had considering Gwynevere jumped to another dick at the first oportunity
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>>162949519
>>162946768
Bryn has access to the same Primordial Runes that Scat does, a very powerful Noble Phantasm and the ability to use Mana Burst on top of her own Strength, putting her far above someone like Arturia who is completely reliant upon it to have any power. She's pretty fucking powerful
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>>162948872
Fergus:
I agree. Yep, it's just as Big sis says.
Even though she has a nice body.
When I look at her, my dick gets so hard!
That girl is a rarity that may even be better than Big sis!
Hahaha! That's just what my intuition says!
And it's certainly something I don't say everyday!
「」, Mashu! You two go on ahead!
With my Caladbolg, I'll take care of this twisted king of destruction!

>>162947034
>econdly, she was only killing weak Irish deities, nothing compared to the gods of Greece, Babylon, India etc. who are what we have the most info on.
She says she fought a God of the Mediterranean before so she's not limited to Celtic stuff
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>>162949536
>Scathach
>Irish
Pick one

>>162949505
Besides the mechanics of the world? You're suggesting that the Celtic gods are on par with the Babylonian gods that came thousands of years before them, purely because you don't want Scathach to be weaker than you think she is. Even if you don't believe they got weaker, they'd still be weaker because they aren't old as fucking balls. The Babylonian and Hindu gods are absolutely ancient.
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>>162949712
Wisdom of the Abyss is pretty bullshit, at minimum she's on par with any other top tier in the Lancer class outside of Enkidu and Karna

Even then she has good match-ups against enemies like that
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>>162949713
>She says she fought a God of the Mediterranean before so she's not limited to Celtic stuff
Big fucking deal, Drake fought Poseidon and i don't see any fucking wank over being a Godkiller.
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>>162949712
I recall something about her saying that she's actually not that skilled at fighting. Better than any human and a lot of heroes, but still not on the level of being top tier. Scathach also benefits from her Wisdom skill, which puts an immense gap between her and a lot of other servants in terms of versatility.
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>>162949536
Scat is a scot though
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>>162949952
>>162949734
She calls herself a woman from Ulster in her trial quest
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>>162950038
She's a liar. Scathach's a Scotswoman.
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>>162945356
You are gonna be so disappointed haha
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>>162949734
Again, you're stating headcanon as fact. You have no basis in claiming any of that as truth. Given that Lugh and Zeus both produced demigods of a similar caliber, I would imagine they aren't that far off in a fight.
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>>162950038
Don't. - Trustworthy Always Accurate Mushroom Man
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>>162950038

She's lying there, Scathach's own profile says she's a princess of the Isle of Shadows
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>>162949534
I would honestly consider surgery to address that in your position.
Although I'm honestly not sure if we even have procedures that can successfully enlarge your cock without sacrificing at least some measure of function. I've never looked into it.
>>
test
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>>162949919
>Drake fought Poseidon and i don't see any fucking wank over being a Godkiller.
It's because Poseidon is too weak to be considered a true god.
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What's your farming soundtrack for today, /fgog/?
I'm listening to Chance the Rapper right now while farming for QP, trying to grail Ruler Martha and level her skills.
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>>162949913
Scathach has a great deal of skill. Like Cu Chulainn, she relies not on her NP or overwhelming parameters, but upon the fact that she has a great deal of ways to deal with things. As with Cu Chulainn, this puts her at a huge advantage against mid-tier and low-tier Heroic Spirits, and with some luck, she can overcome high-tier ones like Arturia.

However, the problem with skills is that they eventually reach a point where they're met with overwhelming power. Against a Servant like Karna, Enkidu, or Gilgamesh, she can put up a much better fight than a less skilled but more powerful Heroic Spirit, but she will eventually lose. Though Gilgamesh may be a bad example, seeing as he wrecks any Heroic Spirit by virtue of being King of Heroes.

Bryn has a great deal more raw power. Who would win is another matter entirely.
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>>162950171
Herc and Cu Chulainn aren't on par. Cu being the Hercules equivalent for Ireland does not mean he's on par with him. Cu in his best class could maybe possibly kill Herc in his worst. Put Cu against Saber or Archer Herc and he'd lose easily.

This isn't headcanon, we know for a fact that mysteries became less and less powerful as time went on, and we know for a fact that the older something is, the more powerful it is. You can't argue either of those. There are things that are powerful without being old, but old things will always be powerful as shit.
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>>162950210
I'm never going to use it in real life, it's all in the head
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>>162950171

>Given that Lugh and Zeus both produced demigods of a similar caliber

Cu has only a slight chance of beating Berserker in a straight fight and Berserker is the weakest Heracles you could possibly summon. Similar caliber? Don't make me laugh.
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>>162943728
>Shields
>Not weapons
Dumb anime poster
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>>162950183
The name "Land of Shadows" is pretty misleading desu. It was plenty sunny.
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>728,000 more BP for Herk to be max

Oh yeah. This is great. Making... good progress.
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>>162950364
lol
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>>162950241
Kanon Wakeshima's luminescence Q.E.D album. I adore her voice. The track Odette is specially good.
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>>162950324
>>162950324
>This isn't headcanon, we know for a fact that mysteries became less and less powerful as time went on, and we know for a fact that the older something is, the more powerful it is
And yet Arturia beats Gilgamesh and Herc despite being way younger than both of them

Nero and EMIYA also beat everyone in Extra and CCC

Ozzy is younger than Arash but shits on him
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I want to rub my dick on this eggplant's fat thighs.
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>>162950241
Avenged Sevenfold crap, it's like I'm in my mid school again.
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>>162950843
Best and softest.
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>>162950783
Arturia also has the most powerful holy sword and a sheath that makes her completely invulnerable. Like I said, there are things that are powerful without being old, but things that are old are always powerful. Nero and EMIYA beat everyone in Extra and CCC because they're the protagonist's Servant, and they have to win. Ozzy is a demigod who also got wanked to hell and back by Sakurai.

To counter this, Herc is much older than Cu and would destroy him in any other class but Berserker, and even as a Berserker Cu only has a small chance. Karna is older than Cu, Li, Nero, EMIYA, Gawain, Altera, Jeanne, and Iskander, and he beats them all in Extella. Gilgamesh is older than any other Heroic Spirit and he is fully capable of killing any of them, only held back by his massive ego.

Cherry picking doesn't support your point, it undermines it.
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>>162950241
Dies Irae's OST.
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>>162950241
My dad is playing Gregorian Chants in the living room for some odd reason

So I'm farming QP to that
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News when?
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Can someone explain to me what was up with the "central america" facepalming in the last thread?
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>>162950251
>Scathach losing to Gilgamesh

That's a joke right? If Cu could last for 12 hours against him she'd be able to beat him. It'd be a hard fight but she'd still come out ahead.
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>>162951180
mexico is WHIIIIIITE
t. mexicans
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I want to hold pinkies with my waifu!
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how much time did the gang spend in Uruk?
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Is Victor from the Moon the best ce for Taiga, or is there something more suitable?
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>>162950527
KINNIKU BUSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>162949175
Emiya took the Ilya route, didn't he?
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>>162951259
A bit longer than two weeks.
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>>162951187
Cu was well-suited to fighting Gilgamesh, and skilled enough to fight at a disadvantage. Scathach is superior in strength but less talented as a spear fighter and also lacks the skills Cu possesses to stand a chance against Gilgamesh. Speaking in terms of compatibility she'd lose.
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>>162951180
Central America does not include Mexico, which is where Quetz is from.

However, since Central America is goddamn tiny, I'm not surprised that people have started considering Mexico to be apart of it.
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>>162951353
No.
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>>162951353
It was the Saber route except Saber never fell in love with him.
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>>162951187
Cu lasted 12 hours because Gilgamesh was overtaken by a whim to give Cu a presentation of the prototypical postage stamp collection. The actual fight only lasted 18 seconds, give or take depending on if you count the amount of time Gil spent laughing derisively.
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>>162951228
Uh, well, Quetzalcoatl is white in the myth.
So it's just the run of the mill ignorant americunts?
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>>162951394
The fuck
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>>162951394
I'm already tired of this pasta
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>>162951397
>lacks the skills Cu possesses to stand a chance against Gilgamesh
Wisdom of the Dark Realm A+
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>>162951394
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>>162951507
What did he post?
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>>162951397
Wisdom of the Abyss grants her proficiency in any skill Cu might have. She also regularly uses her clairvoyance for battle. Her techniques are up to par, and her superior strength will seal the deal. Gilgamesh can't even compete.

>>162951446
>headcanon
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>Chapter 14
whose meme is this
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>>162951228
If that's supposed to explain things to me, it doesn't.
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Did Kiritsigu become EMIYA in the Apocrypha universe?
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>>162951669
it wasn't
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>>162951648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9We2XsVZfc

Listen to this while clearing that chapter.
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>>162951648
That's the chapter you go beat up Ere-chan for being such a nerd and a NEET that literally smells like ghosts, rotting corpses, and skeletons isn't it?
And also to go get Gil back I guess.
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>>162951597
>>headcanon
The wonderful thing about this particular instance is that there is absolutely nothing that can conclusively prove that Cu and Gilgamesh spent 12 hours fighting nonstop.
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>>162951672
Emiya Assassin is a literal "What if" that should not be able to be summoned under any circumstance.
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>>162951591
If I knew, I wouldn't be so confused and disturbed.
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>>162951860
I choose to believe that Cu and Gilgamesh spent 11 hours and 59 minutes having passionate sex until the very end when Cu came inside without warning Gil, so Gil killed him.
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Post lowest level Servants
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>>162951910
So what happened to Kerry in Apoc, then? He never went with the Einzberns, never got married to Iri, never adopted Shirou. He lived and died the same way he did in Accel/Zero Order, so why would anything different happen?
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>>162951560
>>162951597
well there's that and that she owns all the spears she trained heroes with. which as shown in her animations she likes using, so yeah. not to mention having an arsenal of other gae bolg like weapons including swords, knives a bow w/arrows and a three section, double headed spear.
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I never thought I'd ever reach this level of QP hell
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>>162950976
>Herc is much older than Cu and would destroy him in any other class but Berserker, and even as a Berserker Cu only has a small chance.
Citation needed
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>>162951860
>>162951951
> two hours of drinking
> two hours making jokes about Kirei
> one hour talking about sexual conquests
> one hours of honorable napping
> two hours of talent exhibition
> two hours to go out for lunch in the middle
> one hour comparing ishtar and scat
> only one hour of actual fighting
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>>162952198
I feel you. Nobody told me being a Lucha Libre manager was this expensive.
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>>162952008
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>>162952198
You.
Dailies.
Now.
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>>162952198
I'm right there with you buddy
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>>162952198
That's pretty sad but not as bad as not having your favorites like me
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>>162952292
That's 3 apples on a QP day goy
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>>162952298
>Mashu at 50
Bad senpai.
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>>162952404
>Levelling not tane-chan
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>>162952008
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>>162952053
he's apart of the counter force, those are normally unsummonable due to not being "heroes" but just a naked corrective force.
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>>162952526
Jesus Christ, you're a fucking addict
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>>162952008
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>>162952292
>those black shits
Hope you enjoy killing boars Hundreds and hundreds of times just to get 10.
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>>162952549
I didn't ask if he could be summoned, just if he became the Counter Guardian EMIYA.

Because it seems like the Apoc universe is a Bad End for Kerry.
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>>162952008
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>>162952857
>>162953012
>not leveling one of the best 4*
Are you that hurt by the shitpost?
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>somebody got injured during work
>his arm got stuck in a machine ripping his skin and muscle
>blood everywhere
>early break
>decide to roll
>get Quetzalcoatl

I guess blood sacrifices still work out for the Aztecs.
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>>162952326
I'm popping apples now, I'm glad we're at least getting spare apples for a while yet

>>162952292
I don't even want to think about when I have to sink my teeth into getting his skills to max
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>>162953094
I just think Lancelot is a boring character, on top of being a shitty person
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>>162953094
He's pretty mediocre if you can't arts meme.
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Hey friends, I'm in the market for a new budget smart phone. S5 still any good?
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>tfw stuck in BP hell for the next week
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How many BP 4* need?
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>>162953094
Goddamn, is this NP5? How does he do that much unbuffed?
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>>162952008
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>>162953320
>Lancer enemy
>single-target Saber NP
I wonder
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>>162953139
what the fuck kind of sweatshop do you work in
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>>162953320
>unbuffed
It was already explained, it was a very good timed screenshot in which the damage appeared before the buffs.
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>>162953139
Well, that's fucking grim.

Will that guy be ok though?
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>>162952956
all of the universes aside from kolido-ilya were bad ends for him.
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>>162953220
I'm using the galaxy j7 now and fgo runs fantastic.
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>>162952298
>>162952857
Level your Kintoki Riders
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>>162953480
I only level 5*, fuck off
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>>162953480
I don't have his mats
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>>162953480
I only got one copy and no ascension mats, he never interested me.
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Is it safe to assume we'll get a 5* pay gacha for New Years?
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>>162953480
I don't like him
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>>162953460
Isn't that kind of meaningless then? Anyone can do any amount of damage with enough buffs. The reason people post that one a lot is surely because it LOOKS like pure damage.
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>>162953220
My S5 still runs it ok

Babylon ran pretty slow at first but it's gotten better
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>>162952656
Not yet, I didn't level them to max and their skills are untouched.
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>>162953417
Slaughterhouse

>>162953461
I dunno I hope so but his sacrifice got me Quetzalcoatl. I mean look at the pleased look on her face.
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>>162953607
Yes.
Giving out 5 stars for cheap encourages people who aren't willing to spend a lot to pay, and builds up goodwill with the consumers to continue getting fleeced out of their shekels for a bit longer.
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>>162953607
Nips expect it quite a lot, it'd be dumb for them to skip it
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>>162953220
You don't get to bring friends.
>>
Can we all agree Gilgamesh has the biggest balls in Fate?

Not only he told fuck off to the gods when he was young, but later he saw an absolute doom coming and instead of running away he spent half a year fighting half the war and preparing for the other one, all for his beloved people of Uruk. He let them down once and he was never going to do it again. He went down fighting like a madman over and over to the point not even death could stop him. He did the best he could, won against the Beast but still lost the fight because Uruk burned to the ground. He lost the fight but helped Guda win the war and that was enough for him.

People like to meme about him but stuff like this is what makes him being the very first hero and role model for all. We always hear about heroes having done incredible feats and how it makes them so great, but it's all offscreen stuff from legends we don't even know if it happened at all. But this war we took part was very real and we were witness firsthand to see why he's called the King of Heroes.

I can't think of anyone doing something as amazing as that. The closest thing I can think of is Karna fighting Sefar to protect the Moon and Earth all by himself. Everything else shown onscreen in all these years is a child's game compared to what they did.
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>>162953856
Don't bring that copypasta here fag
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>>162953856
Artoria built a paradise even when the age of gods was in decline.

Iskandar made one of the greatest empires the world has ever known.

Both did so with far less resources than Gil, who was made by the gods to be an ubermensch.
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>>162953856
>inb4 nice try Gilfag but----
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>>162951560
>>162951597
>With exception of those particular of certain heroes
Cu was born with PfA and he's the only one who have it so far.
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>>162954043
>Being this slow
Guess it's time for you to shine.
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>>162954201
>Cu was born with PfA and he's the only one who have it so far.

Riceman
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>FGO is just a worthless cashgr-
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>>162943102
If you take Prisma Illya to represent Ko-Gil's personality, he's overprotective of Enkidu.
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>>162954009
can any of them take on the primordial mother with her infinite army of beasts?

Only Gilgamesh had the resources, skills and power to fight back against a literal humanity extinction event.
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>>162954303
Did someone from /fgog/ make that picture? I doubt that nips actually say that over there.
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>>162954370
Got a shot of the cannon on the wall?
Also do we ever find out what those are actually supposed to be or are they just generic weapons Gil pulled from his Gate?

>>162954440
JADF.
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>>162954370
It is though but it actually has effort put into it and takes into consideration what fans like which shows (meme becoming canon).

If it wasn't Sony would be so heavily invested in it.
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>>162953953
What pasta?

>>162954009
That's cool and all but it's not related to my question at all.
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>>162954370
It is a cashgrab just because they shilled a bit of cash to make the last order nice doesn't mean it's not a cashgrab.
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>>162954440
I think it was jadf
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>>162954420
>can any of them take on the primordial mother with her infinite army of beasts?

Some of the people in Alexander's army are supposedly even stronger than him but can't access their NPs, so maybe his empire as his peak could do alright.

Saber also has the knights of the round and Merlin who actually can help fight the Beasts.
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>>162954510
I'm importing this
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>>162954510
>tfw no Fou-kun blanket or masking tape
>>
>I want you to solve a thing.
>What thing?
>It's a Rubik's puzzle.
>You mean a Rubik's cube?
>Maybe.
>Can I see it?
>Not before you're done solving it.
>How many layers does it have?
>You tell me.
>How many sides does it have?
>No idea.
>What shape does it have?
>The geometrical kind, I think.
>Can you picture it in your mind?
>I can picture a puzzle.
>Is it the right puzzle?
>Not a clue.
>Do you know how to solve it?
>I was hoping you'd do it for me.
>Have you solved any puzzles like the one you want me to solve?
>I've tried, and I think I'm on to something.
>Why do you think that?
>Because it got me here and now I can tell you to figure everything out.
>Then you at least know what needs to be figured out?
>I haven't thought much about it.
>Okay, then can I just do it the way you usually do it?
>No.
>Then how do you want me to do it?
>I don't know, that's why I'm asking you.
I feel like Kerry should have spent just a tad more time thinking about what he actually wanted from the Grail. I mean if it didn't take the initiative to make him suffer it could have been a pretty awkward encounter.
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>>162954650
ew, it has that one shitty cowardly traitor banana shit
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>>162954628
With all the retcons she and Excalibur have received, Arturia and Excalibur could likely deal serious damage to Tiamat but it wouldn't amount to much due to her ability to heal through time manipulation and lacking death thing though.
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>>162954530
Camelot and America were pretty fine too.
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>>162954728
Why didn't he just wish the holy grail to the sun or black hole?
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>>162954824
Banana is confirmed to have fought and held off a beast that would have otherwise joined in to fight against you.
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>>162954510
>can buy Formalcraft print
>can't buy Imaginary Around print
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http://pastebin.com/wh7B7pd3

Added an NP to Queequeg and finished his sheet, as well as all the mystery characters from the 6th Grail War, though most of them probably aren't much of a mystery. Next on the list while I continue finishing the first day/night is Noah.

I survived.
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>>162955024
Fuck off cancer.
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>jetfag not having Jets at level 100 10/10/10 with his bond CE

Confirmed faker who doesn't like him.
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>>162954847
It would have asked him how he would launch a mountain into space and he wouldn't have an answer that didn't involve everyone dying.
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>>162954847
The point was that if you use the grail to make any wish whatsoever, it's going to kill as many people as possible as it can through that wish, wasn't it?

So you wish for the grail to get to the sun, it's going to go turbo-project Orion and irradiate the entire surface and atmosphere of the planet to get there or something like that.
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>>162954829
>it wouldn't amount to much due to her ability to heal through time manipulation and lacking death thing though.

The Knights have Galahad who is known for finding the actual holy grail, if it actually became a story I wouldn't be surprised if the plot was to find it and use it to turn Tiamat's immortalities off.

You have to remember that Gilgamesh here, while impressive in fending off 6 months of siege by the 3 Goddesses didn't exactly defeat Tiamat by himself either.
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>>162955024
Glad you're okay senpai
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>>162955024
Sweet so you are a cute girl now?
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Sexual interactions between two animals!
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>>162955024
Oh good, you're alive.
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>>162942159
>>162941982
Who is this?
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>>162954919
>telling lies
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>>162955331
Best girl
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The first secret character in the ar game is Ishtar
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Holy shit leveling skills is painful with so little QP
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>>162955416
Do you actually get anything from this AR game?
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>>162955416
Can I fuck her?
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>>162955483
A welfare
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>>162955401
WHY CAN'T SHE BE A SERVANT?
FUCKING MUSHROOM
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>>162955401
Whats her name?
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>>162955480
What did she mean by this?
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>>162954919
Except that's a lie
>She becomes a shitty bandit and you kill her in the mountain, she doesn't respawn which means you gave her the death she deserved
Fuck you and your shit taste for liking that piece of shit character
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Ereshkigal makes my dick erect
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Thanks, Cirno.
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>>162955480
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>>162955532
Yeah but isn't the welfare just from participating on the event? or do you actually need some sort of completion on the game to get it?
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>>162955532
>>162955416
>>162955602

What if the secret welfare is Ereshkigal?
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>>162955185
Those animals are pure.
PURE!
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>>162955416
AR Game?
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Why is Nakahara's CE art so very adequate while his servant card art is so very boring?
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>>162955668
I think you need to get all the Servants
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>>162955694
>all gaijins fucked out of Ere-chan
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>>162955663
Lancelot was in London? Some faggot was telling me he wasn't yesterday.

>>162955694
Don't fuck with me Anon.
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>>162955723
This is the face of an animal in heat.
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>>162954510
link?
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>>162955806
I'd sell my account
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>>162955648
I like this.
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>>162955694
The welfare is for the AR game anyway
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>>162956007
I know
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If Ere is a Lancer like she is thought to be It's no wonder she hasn't been added yet given the recent swarm of lancer class in the game.
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>>162955814
This is Retard Cat's NP interlude. She's in London and is attacked by shadow Caligula, Lancelot, and Lu Bu.
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>>162955331
Best incoming servant.
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>>162955185
He's saying retard cat is evil then says something about Euryale that I can't understand. Any help?
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Is Medb's bond CE any good? 15% NP generation for the party seems like it should be pretty decent, but I'm not sure if it really works for Medb. I suppose her HP and healing will mean she will stay on the field long enough for it to be worth it.
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>>162956063
They need to engineer a way to make her worse than Scat first.
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So what's the best way to level up CEs again? You pump a bunch of levels into 3*?
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Looks chilly
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>>162956196
Looks hot.
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>>162955648
kek
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>Always wondered how people could love all the clones of Sabers
>Realize now with Ere and Ishtar that I'm a Rinfag and I want all the Rin clones
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What drops Gears and where can I get them?

I need a boatload of them for skills and ascensions and shit.
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>>162956136
>tamacat beats lancelot in a CANON interlude
STRONGEST
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Why Sakura isn't out yet?
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>>162956256
She is a goddess of love if her charm skill wasn't nerfed she'd be very overpowered
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>>162956271
Good. Now you understand our pain.
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>>162956380
who?
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>>162956193
Level 3* to 20/20 (ideally it would be 4* but nobody but whales has an endless supply of them) and then mass feed them all to the 5* CE you want to level. This way cost less QP and lets you store exp until you find a CE you want to level, plus if you get a Great/Super Success you'll get a bit extra of exp since you used 3* base CEs.
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>>162956380
who?
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>>162956441
>>162956473
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Her interlude in September has her first being attacked by wolf people. Who obviously wanted to stick it in her. Or just fight her, I don't speak Japanese.
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>>162956149
She reminds me so much of Chaika. She's just missing the huge eyebrows.
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>>162956402
>charm skill
Would of been funny if it wasn't nerfed just for mashu reactions
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>>162956595
Someone needs to TL her second interlude already
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>>162956196
So all Babylon gods are blonde and dress half naked right?
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>>162956641
Yamerooooooooooooooo
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>>162956354
nip spreadsheet says Chicago is your best bet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TrfSDteVZnjUPz68rKzuZWZdZZBLqw03FlvEToOvqH0/edit#gid=1753945728

they drop from automata and helter skelters
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>>162956773
I'm terribly sorry, I can't help it.
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>>162956405
As if Rinfags could ever understand. They've got one, maybe at some point two, Rin variants to roll for? That's small potatoes. I'm not even counting the CEs she's featured on or that are related to her, or her son, or the rest of the knights she commands. RInfags know nothing.
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>>162956806
I'm sorry for the anons who have to farm story quests fror mats
the drop rate is abysmal
>tfw I had to use ten apples to get FIVE PAGES
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Are you excited for the new mats coming with the Solomon raid?
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>>162956806
Thanks.

I really wish they just sold ascension materials in Da Vinci's shop. Even if the prism price was obscenely high, it'd be a shit ton better than farming outside of events.
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>>162956985
reminds me of trying to farm horseshoes from okeanos, true suffering
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https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/5iro8u/lovely_okita_gif_for_all_of_the_okita_lovers/

I told you all Okitafags were redditors.
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>>162956958
> mfw only one CE
I'm gonna max LB that shit for the Saber Wars rerun. Too bad it's not a very good CE.
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Wish that claws would drop more often. Or we had more chimeras to kill.
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>>162957263
just use the babylon map to farm bond with occasional claw drops
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I've been gone for a week, has the falseflagger convinced you all that you hate King Hassan for being reddit yet?
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Dirty kitty titties.
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>>162956161
Her interlude is on chaldeum.
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>>162957459
I want to make her my bride.
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>>162957008
Just give me hearts.
Fucking DW.
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>>162957581
I want Shinji to steal her away from you.
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>>162957581
What about this cat?
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That prism CE increases bond points after each fight right?
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>>162957724
It's the same cat, though.
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>>162956890
>>162956773
>>162956641
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>>162957835
They are clearly different cats.
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You have to put together a Holy Grail War from the character gallery of the last non-TM game you played. All the seven standard classes have to be filled. What does your lineup look like?
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>>162955024
I'm glad you lived.
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>>162957956
I finally can give some other use to that meme supports thing.
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>>162957797
Yes. BP earned x 10% = Final BP amount you see on the results screen.
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>>162957910
Might want to mirror the Chaikaface.
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>still no porn of yakuza Taiga being a dom
What a cruel world.
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>>162957205
>says this while linking to reddit
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>>162958118
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>>162942132
>>162942260

the only reason I know about this game, anime, or whatever it is called is because ive fapped plenty of times to this loli goddess R34. Am I a bad person?
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>>162957939
Fine, then I'll take both of them as my brides.
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>>162957956
I feel like you made this easy for me.

Saber: Zero
Archer: Four
Lancer: Five
Rider: One
Caster: Three
Assassin: One (male)
Berserker: Two
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>>162957956
>Majikoi
Momoyo wins
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Can someone explain me how Demonic Buddha CE works?
I'm too dumb to understand.

It just modifies the overcharge effect and not the damage right?
Like from a charge of 100% to a charge of 300%
So I guess it's only useful for servants like Illya who gets a damage up as an overcharge effect.
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>>162958480
I send my pikachu and use thunderbolt.
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>>162958480
Best girl and best VA
Until Benkei arrives.
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>>162958275
No. Shuten has that effect on people. She's a semen demon on a whole new level.

Now touch yourself at the sound of her heavenly voice.
https://a.pomf.cat/wrutaw.mp3
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>>162957956
I'm too lazy to do that with everybody but here, this is Saber.

Karna the Bloodedge
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>>162958275
I think it's fairly common for these sorts of games. I mean, I doubt KanColle would have enjoyed even a tenth of its peak popularity if there wasn't such an ungodly quantity of porn sprung from it.
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>>162958568
Correct. It merely gives a 200% extra charge to the attack. The normal np level is still the same.
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>>162958568
If you were to use a NP alone without that CE, it would be at 100%, but with that CE equipped it would be at 300% instead. Not all Overcharge effects affect damage, so check your Servant's profile and see what they all do.
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>>162958568
yeah you got it anon
although ridetoki or cu alter are maybe the best examples
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>>162958423
Five a best. Four a bitch.
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>>162958664
easy

archer - Jin
lancer - Mai
assassin - Hibiki
caster - Nine
rider - Tager
berserker - Azrael
ruler - Izayoi
avenger - Susanoo
beast -
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>>162956958
> That utter despair when you sink all your quartz on Archuria and all you get are the shitty CE.
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>>162958931
I forgot
>beast -
Black Beast
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who /dry/ here
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>>162959073
136 FP?
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http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/np_get.html

Anons, how do I use this calulator? I'm not getting the same results. AQQ on Enkidu gives me

AQQ:
5(3 x 1 + 1) + 4(1 x 1.5 + 1) + 4(1 x 2 + 1) + 6(1 + 1) = 20 + 10 + 12 + 12 = 54
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>>162958614
benkei is shit tier
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>>162959073
how does it feel to know DW is going to unleash another crazy profitable new years gacha
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>>162957956
Saber: Marth
Archer: Samus
Lancer: Ice Climbers?
Rider: Captain Falcon
Caster: Ness
Assassin: Sheik/Zelda with Double Class skill for Assassin/Caster
Berserker: Ganondorf
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>>162959073
>falling for the bait gatcha before solomon/new years
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>>162959073
>136 FP

AHAHAHA
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>>162959073
I had enough self-control to not spend my last 20 quartz trying to get Gorgon. I should have 30 by new year's and I'm probably going to buy quartz then anyways for the paid gacha.
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>>162959073
How the fuck do you have so little FP, I have almost a million.
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>>162959260
Not him, but I want that Demonic Buddha CE. It kills me that I didn't get it.
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>>162958931
Putting Susan in a grail war would be a massacre
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>>162959260
>Keeping free quartz for the paid gacha.
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>>162959512
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>>162959167
Meanwhile this is a nip's calculation
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>>162957956
Saber: Good Hunter
Archer: Simon the Harrowed
Lancer: Gehrman, the First Hunter
Rider: Alfred, Church Hunter
Caster: Micolash, Host of the Nightmare
Assassin: Brador, Church Assassin
Berserker: Bloody Crow of Cainhurst
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New year gacha in 2 weeks, how many quartz do you have?
54 here.
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>>162959545
You know DW did more than a paid gacha last year, right?
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>>162958664
>still no sugita servant
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>>162959731
>he thinks he can roll the New Year gacha with normal quartz
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>>162959731
130
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>>162944120
What class doesn't Cu qualify for?
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>>162959731
>He thinks the new years gacha means anything unless that's paid quartz
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How would you make Solomon fall for (you)?
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>>162959882
He qualifies for them all, truly a skilled student and superior to herkek
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>>162959882
Assassin probably
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>>162959802
Being Sugita is suffering
>tfw never a gundam pilot
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>>162955663
>about to moan Gil's name
lewd
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>>162947529
BASED
A
S
E
D

Merlin gets shit done.
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>>162957956
>Devil May Cry
Saber: Sparda
Lancer: Nero
Archer: Lady
Assassin: Trish
Caster: Arkham
Rider: Dante
Berserker: Vergil Nelo Angelo
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>>162957956
Saber - Mercenary
Lancer - Acrid
Archer - Huntress
Caster - Engineer
Rider - Loader
Assassin - Sniper
Berserker - Miner
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>>162948050
>Whoever Gaia picked to swing the thing.
Not even Merlin who is a 100/10 can use the excaliblast mode. Arturia was the Chosen One.
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>>162960019
He fucked up Medb's army with guerilla tactics in the Tain_Bo_Cuailnge IIRC.
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>>162957956
Saber Sceptile
Archer Braixen
Lancer Lucario
Rider Charizard
Caster Gardevoir
Assassin Weavile
Berserker Garchomp
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>>162948343
It's the Original Sakura.
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I like it
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>>162960383
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>>162957956
Saber - Miyabi
Archer - Mirai
Lancer - Murakumo
Caster - Haruka
Assassin - Asuka
Rider - Jasmine
Berserker - Hikage
>>
News in 4.6 hours.
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>>162960492
I want it
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>>162960530
I want to marry Miyabi.
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>>162960514
say what you will
game gets pretty fucking hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo3vmYdrv_w&t=636s
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>>162948343
>It was formerly sealed at the ends of the imaginary number space.
>Alter Egos are complexes made from several goddesses, however Protea is created from the essence of the great Mother Goddess that is common throughout all mythologies.

Close as you're going to get. Although in order to slap a few limitations on something with basically unlimited power, BB ended up making it a bit more crazy than it was originally. Because it infinitely ages and regresses in age until it can't think right anymore.

Its very pure in terms of thought, but it can become a universe breaker potentially.
>>
Since Ishtar's Mana Burst (Jewel) was apparently created from the fusion with Rin, I wonder if Parvati will have something with Imaginary Numbers.
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>>162955732
I don't know. He has some of the best CE art in the game too. It's fucking frustrating.
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>>162960695
Also its second form is a loli that floats
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>>162957956
Saber: Neptune, Nepgear, and Noire
Lancer: Vert
Archer: Uni
Caster: Rom and Ram
Assassin: K-sha
Rider: B-sha and Red
Berserker: Blanc
Ruler: The oracles
Avenger: Murdergear and Rei
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>>162960492
https://twitter.com/humanity6/status/809939431952039936
Mystic code when DW
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>>162960784
>He has some of the best CE art in the game too.
Those CEs look good, but let's not get crazy here.
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>>162960840
Source?
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How can you oneshot Gorgon?
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>>162960852
I want to steal one of those servants.
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>>162957956
Saber: Matador
Archer: White Rider
Lancer: Pale Rider
Caster: Trumpeter
Assassin: Dante
Rider: Mother Harlot
Berserker: Demifiend
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>>162960852
Is that a Umaru hood
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>>162959629
No idea how to use it, but the results in that pic are indeed accurate. I got almost the same values when I tested all combinations myself. Mine were a bit higher since I was using Moonlit Four.
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>>162961157
Thanks anon
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Do you love me, senpai?
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>>162960754
Mana Burst (Worms)
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>>162960852
I understand Helena, Shakespeare, Hans, and Waver being there but not the rest
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>>162961157
Wait, that's pretty respectable for an AQQ. I thought his NP gain was supposed to be shit.
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>>162960492
Too cute.
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>>162961456
Me too anon, that's why I wanted to do some calculations and shit
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>>162957956
Saber - Genji
Archer - Hanzo
Lancer - Zarya
Caster - Mercy
Rider - D.va
Assassin - Reaper
Berserker - Winston
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>>162960673
>nintenbaby pokeshit
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>>162960840
Nigger you'd better believe I need the source on that
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>>162961474
Enkidu has really tiny feet.
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>>162961756
I'm sorry you don't know how to enjoy things outside the demographic you're categorized into, anon
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>>162957956
>Saber: Bisharp
>Archer: Decidueye
>Lancer:Excadrill (horn is the spear)
>Rider: Hapu with Mudsdale
>Caster: Alakazam
>Assassin: Marshadow
>Berserker: Buzzwhole
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>>162961946
>enjoying things
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>>162961694
At first the image looked like she was really, really pregnant. But then tit poking and it was still okay.
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>>162959934
>>162959835
>forgetting the limited servant rate up with Karna Arjuna
We might even get Merlin and King Hassan gacha/rate up.
http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Happy_New_Year_2016
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>>162961456
The problem is that outside of brave chains his NP gain is shit. Half of his NP gain comes from his Art card and the rest from QQ+Extra. An AQQ chain started by another servant will barely give you any NP% despite being the same combination of cards because it lacks Enkidu's Art and Extra.
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>>162960837
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>>162960383
>>162961995
I want pokeshitters to leave
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>>162962486
Man there really is a lot more vore in TM than I realized.
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Can someone explain the appeal of Taiga to me?
After seeing at least three different people grail her to 100, I just have to know what some see in her, because I don't get it.
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Quetz has the best warface.
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>>162962486
>>162960837
>>162960695
Have I ever mentioned that I really dislike all of the Sakuras? Because I do. Extrafags are a shit.
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William Wallace *4 Saber/Berserker fucking when?
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Rape the maids.
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>>162962662
Hipsters. ''Oh look at me I like this background character a lot I'm so unique and special everyone likes mainstream waifus but no, not me, I have god tier taste I like this unique character no one else likes''
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>>162962662
Her skills are very solid, especially so when maxed.
Good NP gain.
ST NP hits like a truck, especially if you roll more copies.
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when is the lunchtime CE going away? I still need 800 mana prisms
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>>162962687
I think the essence of shitposting in these threads is hating that someone else likes something, and taking it out on the thread. Just triggers you too much to like what you like and let other people like what they like.

I think we spent a good four hours in this thread earlier with people shitposting how you're not allowed to like character I hate in various forms.
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>>162962768
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>>162962891
December 31 is the last day you have to get it.
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>>162962904
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>>162962896
Although at the time it was more about Scath, Okita, Tamamo, Nero, etc. I don't know where that guy got that Okita was hated, but people haven't really shitposted her much in months.
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What quest should I be farming for bond?
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I want to ask a question but don't want to derail the thread. So I'll just ask "Yes or no?"
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>>162963165
Salt a cute. Wish she would LB her Lunch CE so I could use her Ruler Martha more often.
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Please lie to me, /fgog/. Tell me DW is not going to start the raid on the 24th or the 25th and then end it on either the 31st or the 1st.
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>>162963373
Yes
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>>162963373
They'll start it after maintenance and it'll end on the 31st.
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>>162963373
They got rid of Christmas so they could have the second half of the month free for the big finale. Of course not. They won't make it last barely a few days.
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>>162963346
Yes, it is okay to touch pussies with your kouhai.

But only if you ask permission first.
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>>162962662
It's just a meme, friend. Some people have strange taste in waifu.
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>>162963373
>Lie

They're not going to have the grand finale of the story (According to them, but we all know there's going to be more) and have it go on for only a week. This isn't some simple event, this is basically the climax.

They'll give us plenty of time surely.
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>>162963469
When is maintenance?
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>>162963346
Very yes.
Unless it's Jaguar Man.
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I want this Nobu shirt
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>>162963485
That's super gay, dude.
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>yfw the AR welfare is something everyone has been anticipating for
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>>162963557
>shuten shirt
that has to take some big testes
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>>162963623
You're gay
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>>162963327
You have three choices
Caster Ifreet node on Camelot, 2 waves and 1004 bond.
Rider Lion node on Babylonia, 2 waves and 1028 bond.
Berserker Boar node on Babylonia, 3 waves and 1028 bond.

Run the one you can clear the fastest or need mats from.
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>>162963518
Average maintenance happens every Tuesday at 14:00. In American terms, that's midnight EST on Wednesday.
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>>162963627
> It's Merlin
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>>162951397
Not even, Gilgamesh was dicking around

He has a Noble Phantasm that is an auto-win against Cu and he has no choice but to take it and die.
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Realta nua collab when?
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>>162963485
>>162963523
So yes. Okay. I'll ask him for a date and time.
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Which Order map has the best theme? I think Camelot and next to it London. America is also okayish.
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>>162964325
It's not too late to change your ways. You will only regret this.
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>>162964325
Is that you Rob anon?
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>>162964325
It isn't worth the AIDS. You'll look worse than Fastwheels in a few years.
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hopefully someone scans this book of his this time. they still haven't scanned the arslan one.
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>>162963823
>its tiamat or king hassan
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>>162964616
I've done a lot of thing that I've regretted in my life. This would merely be another notch to it.
>>162964705
Yes.
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>Last Encore anime series
>Heaven's Feel anime movie
>Prisma movie
>Grand Order anime of some sort
>Grand Order getting pushed harder by Sony
>Extella series continuing in the future
How did the mushroom pull this off?
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Did Gilgamesh's NP gain get nerfed? Like, by a lot?
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>>162964856
>The whole thing is about finding King Hassan through his Presence Concealment
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>>162964856
>it's Ere-chan
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>>162965008
Mine went from 30 to 100 last night with two art crits so don't think so.
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>>162964961
did you clarify before if you were ikemen or fuccboi
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>>162963557
I miss Nobus
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>>162965078
I wish there were more translated NTR doujins with Taiga. The best I can find is stuff with similar characters, like NTR2 and Cat-Head Imako, and while I can sort of imagine Taiga in those scenarios it's just not the same.
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>>162964961
We all have regrets. Why do you insist on purposefully piling on more? For money? What a boring thing. Money comes and goes. You're trading more than your body and health, you're risking a part of your soul. You're bartering with a currency no one can possibly understand the full value of. If it's something you truly want to do, then go ahead. But if you have doubts, why take the risk? Either way, make whichever choice you can defend with pride.
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>>162964325
Good luck. Remember to act natural.
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>>162965382
Everyone does.
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>Solomon's demons
>original sins
>(bands of) light
>Martha keeps referencing Jesus and YHVH
>Nasu loves classic SMT and recent SMT has been handling him really shittily

Beast I is Lucifer isn't it
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>>162965452
Anon could be a girl, you know. It's not likely. But it could be the case.
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>>162965409
>NTR doujins with Taiga
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>>162965609
>tfw Roman is Lucifer
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>>162965614
Prostitution is deplorable, male or female.
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>>162965720
>tfw Lucifer is a dindu
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>>162965609
More like:
> Solomon is related to the Bible
> the original sin in the Bible is eating from the tree
> Satan tempted humanity into disobey God

More than that, Tiamat is the Original Sin of regression. But regression can only happen if there has already been progression to the prior point. If the Original Sins are chronological, then it would make sense for the "I" of the Original Sin to be the acquisition of knowledge. Disobedience, or something of that nature.
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Humanity at the Da Vinci event confirmed Valentine's Day repeat
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>>162965614
I'm not.
>>162965452
I just don't even know any more. Everything feels so wrong now.
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Oh boy lorefag shitposters are back to ruin the thread.
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>>162963557
Would wear the Nobu one, no fucks given.
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>>162965950
Then don't. Don't worry, if you decide later your soul's deepest desire is truly to have sex for pay with an old man another opportunity will surely present itself. Just stop being indecisive and do what you really feel is right, not what other people want you to do.
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>>162965950
If you feel you're doing something wrong, then why not do what feels like it's right? There's always an avenue which remains unexplored. It might not be the avenue that does the most good for everyone, but if it does the most good for you, what does it matter?
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>FGOでバレンタインイベント復刻はあるとのこと

Why the fuck they rerun this shit,just make a new one
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>>162965950
It's just sex. It is just a form of intimate physical contact with another person that may or may not involve some level of emotional intimacy. If it's worth the money to you then do it. If it isn't then don't.
Make the choice for yourself like an adult and don't post about it here again. This is the worst kind of off topic blog shit.
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>>162965971
>discussing lore is shitposting now
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>>162966230
Discussing anything I don't like is shitposting.
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>>162966230
Come back to the gacha
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https://twitter.com/FateGrandOrder/status/809981336794578944
Valentines rerun confirmed
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Seems like Saber Alter and some Fate/Stay Night servants are getting updated animations.
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>>162965946
I hope Enkidu gets a chocolate ce.
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>>162966173
Seasonal event. Chance to give Valentine CE to new Servants. The Grand Cucking is upon us once again.
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>>162966230
Welcome to /fgog/. Discussing gameplay or lore is shitposting, but helping some fuckboy decide whether or not to sell his ass to an old man is perfectly fine.
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>>162941982
How do I defeat Gorgon Medusa? I'' around chapter 7 I think
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>>162966173
Maybe it's separate and for if you got servants with valentine events after the event.
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>>162965946
Oh please, sweet baby Jesus, don't let us get fucked over again for White Day.
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>>162966345
>Not on the actual site
>2 months early announcement
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>>162966483
6m HP? Stall her for 7 turns. 2m HP? Stall for 15 turns or do 800k something damage. You only need to kill the 600k HP one.
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>>162966524
It's in the live event you nigger, Saber alter is getting animation updates too but you don't see an official announcement either.
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>>162966483
if it has more than one million of hp, wait until it goes away, 15 turns.
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>>162965409
But imako isn't even NTR, she just fucked around and then gone back to the main guy because she didn't shit about the other guys after the drugs stopped.
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>>162966345
>去年から増えたサーヴァントも新規に作られるとのこと。

Old servants have the same event/CEs while new servants get stuff made for them as well.
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>>162966353
Excellent. I didn't roll her all those months ago for nothing. Maybe the actually good Servants like Medea, Medusa, Hassan and Cu will look good now, too.
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>>162966345
Oh nice, leveling that new Christmas CE will be easy.
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>>162966762
The only good F/SN servants got their updates a long time ago.
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https://twitter.com/fatego_playing/status/809984787054141440

Stay Night's servants will get priorities in animation revamp.
They show Saber Alter's new animation sample.
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>>162966147
>>162966150
>>162966181
I can't do it. That's my decision, my pride is too much to give my virginity like that. Money may be tight, but I can't give up one tightness for another.
I'm sorry for bothering you all and shitting up the thread. But thank you for your wisdom.
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>There are people who don't know who Humanity is
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>>162967006
just suck his cock dude
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>>162967010
niggers
all of em
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>F/SN servants getting animation updates before other fucking golds
>Before the actual poster servants
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>>162966958
>Cu might actually get an animation revamp
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>>162965894
Feels like there's some way to boil down the sin in the garden. Their sin wasn't knowledge in itself. Their sin was more like, doing the one thing they were told not to do.

They sacrificed a perfect existence, no pain, no fear, no disease, nothing bad, in order to do the one thing they were told not to do. If you tell humans that there's one thing they can't do, they will sacrifice everything else including things far more valuable at times, in order to do that one thing. It turns out the thing they obtained was just a curse for the most part.

They ate of the tree because Satan tempted them saying they could be like god, they were without sin at the time, and instead they ended up as imperfect existences that embraced all earthly evils instead. This feels like a certain other reoccurring theme with humanity. Even with a perfect world where you have potentially everything, "its not enough". The story of Noah after he left the arc was like humanity restarting, god making a new covenant with them, they being given his graces and permissions once more. Yet we see the concept of "Its not enough" repeat once more there. The story of Moses, God saved the Jews, "its not enough", and they start worshiping cattle instead of god immediately.

Not sure where I'm going with this, but I'm not sure their root sin was knowledge in itself.
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>>162967006
Not that it matters, but I'm proud of you for making your decision. Now I'll also stop shitting up the thread.
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>Valentine reprint
>feed all my Valentine CEs as fodder

Oh well I guess time to get it back this year and use it as fodder again
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And there it is, the hardcore biblefag that goes off on a tangent because he has this need to spread his religion everywhere he goes.
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This announcement has made me realize I have all FSN servants.
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>>162967297
*tips fedora*
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>>162966704
I'm trying to make sense of the latter part of your post but I'm not sure it can be done. Anyway, if you read the series to the end you would know that in the final chapter it's given to the reader that all preceding chapters didn't happen as they were shown and all the bad stuff only happened in the guy's head. There were no drugs, she didn't fuck anyone of those other guys, and everything else about that turned out to not have happened. I'm not kidding, the series just does a complete turnaround and invalidates all those events.
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>>162967101
Nobody cares about shitty meme servants like Memephistopheles
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>FSN servants will get new animations
>new hassan animations
YES
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>>162967171
Same shit as Pandora in a sense, although maybe a bit different
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>>162967362
I beg to differ
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>>162967365
Does this include EMIYA and Saber? I mean, they already got an animation bump.
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>>162967323
Mock me if you want, but the shit he does is no different than when people bring /pol/ shit into the thread. He takes every opportunity to preach his beliefs and deep knowledge of his religion same as they do with their politics. It all starts with a barely Fate related post and ends with him talking about completely unrelated stuff.
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>>162967006
> I can't give up one tightness for another
If this whole thing was just a massive two day long set-up leading to that joke, I really appreciate the effort.

>>162967171
The reason I bring up knowledge is because Solomon's NP that has been identified as the Beast, Ars Almadel Salomonis, has a title which links it to "he who has learned all" or something along those lines. It definitely has something to do with that.

>>162967305
Fuck off I can't roll any of the gold ones.

>>162967305
*tips fedora*
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>>162966958
So, REGEND with updated animations soon?
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Time for best dragonslayer to get new animations
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>>162967113
>>162967365
Let's be real. It's just going to be Saber Alter and Heracles.
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>>162966958
>Cu and Medea upgrades
All of my yes. All they need is Carmilla animation updates and I'll have all my main team have shiny animations.
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>FSN servants getting new animations
>There's still 5*s with generic movesets
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>>162967515
Eventually they'll run out of release golds.
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>>162966704
>But imako isn't even NTR, she just fucked around and then gone back to the main guy
You realize the final chapter shows it was all a dream right?

First chapter = Imako's daydream

2nd through second to last chapter = The guy's daydream

They were both the same type of person, end up worrying and fantasizing too much based on nothing. The guy saw a friend, saw drugs, he got it in his mind that Imako was connected and that she was in the middle of it all, but it was all in his head.

Everything was fake
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>>162967358
I thought she still fucked around but there was no real NTR end because she decided to stay with the guy. Though I haven't read it recently and don't remember it clearly, midorirupe's stuff can get weird.
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FGOクリエイタートークイベントまとめ4 石倉さん:男サーヴァントが(水着サーヴァントに)入らないのは? 塩川さん:もはや半裸の人がいっぱい居るのでこれ以上どうやって脱がすのかが......(この辺ネタっぽいトークでした)

>Why there were no men in swimsuit during summer?
>Well a lot of them are already half-naked, what more can you take off them...
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>>162966958
When will Bomberman get the animations he deserves?
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>>162967531
>There's still 5*s with generic movesets
Like? These upgrades are for the launch Servants.
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>Mr. Shiokawa: I hopefully wish have Elizabeth in all classes
DEVS ARE LIZFAGS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162967478
The antagonist of this setting is a Biblical character.
The main backdrop of the setting is using Biblical imagery.
Characters in this setting are derived from various world mythologies.

For example, the character Gilgamesh is from the Epic of Gilgamesh.
When we were discussing Gilgamesh and Babylonia beforehand, we referenced The Epic of Gilgamesh.

Now, Anon, we are currently going to battle Solomon. The character of Solomon is from the Bible.
When were are discussing Solomon and his Temple, we should discuss _____?
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>>162967483
>It definitely has something to do with that.

You could say that the story of Adam and Eve could be seen as "Gaining knowledge, but at a price". Solomon gained all knowledge in the world by god, but all it gave him in this story is despair perhaps. Knowing everything let him understand just how bad things really are, how they're all going to die, the futility of it all.

Knowledge isn't free, it comes with harsh understandings and complexities that maybe you can't deal with.
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>>162967675
Obviously we just make versions of all the celts that fight bare-ass naked.
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>>162967531
>There's still 5*s with generic movesets
Who?
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>>162967272
I did the same shit because I had no room. I'm glad I'll be able to get them all back now that I actually have the room for them this time.
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>>162967531
No, there are not.

Every initial launch *5 already have animation update, the last one is Attila. Every *5 who's released later already has varied animation, including Kintoki, with that electric sparks.
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I've waited so long.
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>>162967709
Nasu confirmed Liz is best Fate, its over
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>>162967675
>what more can you take off them...
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So what's exactly the difference between Ishtar & Galahad pseudo-servants?
Does one needs a 'contract' to make a servant while the previous just needs to take possession of a human body?

And what about Quetz, who's the girl anyways? Isn't she technically a pseudo-servant too?
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what is happening? Any FGO event in japan?
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Explain why Liz is bad, without bringing any concept of her real historical self into the picture here.

Just take her Fate character as a character in itself for this question.
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>>162967827
>no grails
>lvl 5 skills
You should wait more.
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>>162967708
>>162967779
>>162967786
Having an extra hit on your attacks is pretty low test for 'varied' animations.
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>>162967913
Da Vinci-chan Code event in Japan. They are having a small talk with one of the producers.
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>Saber Alter and Nero Red will have better animations than Bride who is one step removed from default animations
it's not fair
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>>162967864
Ishtar is a pseudo servant. aka a servant with a human container. in Rin case Ishtar is at the lead and in Waver's case Zhuge is a lazy faggot so he lets him do what he wants
Mashu is a demi-servant, she became a servant after fusing with a dying gallahad.
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>>162966958
Will they get rid of the magic blasts?
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>>162967931
It doesn't matter if it's low test or not. Jack's animation already different from Jing Ke's who actually has generic animation.
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>>162967998
>Bride who is one step removed from default animations

I don't see any other servant wrote L.O.V.E in their BAQ brave chain
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Soon
>Joan Alter
>Raikou
>Helena
>Kuro
>Pirate girls
>Lancer Arthuria Alter
>Liz
>Santa Alter
>Iri
>Altera
>Scath
>Mordred
>Mashu
>LIly Santa
>Marie
>Brave Liz
>Swimsuit Scath
>Halloween Liz
>Medusa Lily
>Ushi
>Medusa
>Boudica
>Taiga
>Serenity Hassan
>Kiyohime
>Nightengale

Think those are the ones who's chocolate I'll go out of my way to get.
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>>162967773
We don't really have a concrete definition of "this is how humanity was created" in the Nasuverse, or what it is that makes humans special. It might end up that the "I" of Original Sin is something having to do with that.

>>162967864
Ishtar, Quetz, and the other Divine Spirits made pseudo-servants are examples of non-human spirits using the body of a mortal which:
1) is connected to the Holy Grail in some way
2) is the most compatible in appearance, personality, etc.
This creates a sort of "third personality" that has aspects from the Divine Spirit and from the original person; Ishtar is a much better person by having aspects of Rin within her, while Zhuge fucks off and Waver's personality combined with Zhuge's skill-set and knowledge is displayed.

Mashu is a demi-servant. She was a designer baby meant to house a heroic spirit. She's not a summoned heroic spirit like the pseudo-servants; she's a real human bean, who just happens to have a heroic spirit bound to her. She fully acquired the power of Galahad after he helped save her in the accident or something like that. It's not the same thing, though.
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>>162967675
i don't think Ishtar would be able to take anymore off as we'll
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>>162967864
Mashu isn't a Pseuda servant; She's a Demiservant.

The difference between the two is a Pseudo Servant is someone who has been involved in a grail war and bares some similarity to the servant in question becoming basically a meat puppet for said servant; Who's in control depends on a case-by-case basis, it seems (Ishtar is mostly Ishtar with a few influences from Rin, while Zhuge Liang is basically just Waver using Zhuge Liang's powers because Zhuge Liang is antisocial as fuck)


Demiservants are basically random people forced to have a Servant's powers and abilities put into them; I believe the intent was to bypass the "learning to trust and depend on one another" thing that comes with normal summoning by having the Servant-Master pair already know eachother, and therefore they can fight as an efficient team right off the bat. Mass Produced Servants, in a sense.
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>>162967101
>Most popular servants in the franchise
>Literal whos with some exceptions.
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>amakusa released white day 2016

semi will be the valentine gacha, screencap this
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>>162967930
Is this not long enough?
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>>162968009
>Mashu is a demi-servant, she became a servant after fusing with a dying gallahad.
The opposite, Galahad fused with Mashu to save her life.
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>>162968009
>she became a servant after fusing with a dying gallahad.

Kinda the other way around. Sounds like you missed out on the Camelot reveals actually. Galahad is inside of her from the start, she was created just to house him, but he chose not to manifest since it would erode her soul to paint over with his.

When she was dying when Chaldea was blown up, he allowed part of his power to manifest but refuses to go any further with it so far. This saved her, but permanently changed her soul as well perhaps. Made it where she could go outside finally.
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>>162967709
Is it really any surprise?
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>>162968284
>>162967709
How much you wanna bet the next Valentines Servant will be 4* Cupid Archer Liz?

I anticipate it, but do not want it.
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>>162968180
>Demiservants are basically random people forced to have a Servant's powers and abilities put into them; I believe the intent was to bypass the "learning to trust and depend on one another" thing that comes with normal summoning by having the Servant-Master pair already know eachother, and therefore they can fight as an efficient team right off the bat. Mass Produced Servants, in a sense.
It's pretty much Prisma's card system of just shoving the power into you only to a much higher degree than what a card can do.
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>>162968270
> Mashu as we have her right now isn't even displaying Prototype Eggplant's full power

Why is Galahad such a badass?
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>>162968391
He's the son of The Unrivaled after all.
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LANCER PERCIVAL WHEN
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>>162968009
>>162968150
>>162968180
Thanks cuties.
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What is with these staff names DW?
>Creative Director: Salt River
>Marketer: Stone Cellar
>Chairman: Money Valley
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>>162967709
>there will be an Assassin Liz just to make Carmilla even more redundant
I can already taste the salt.
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>>162968416
But Mama was Japanese?
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>Ibaraki will just eat the chocolate and give you a bill
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>>162968391
Well he actually managed to get the grail unlike Arturia and the other Round Table shitters
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>>162968391
He was basically the more pure and righteous knight ever. The only guy Jesus found worthy of finding his cup.

What does he do with the cup that might posess infinite power basically? He returns it to its owner so it can't be misued by mortals. Jesus was so impressed that Galahad was given the power to choose how and where he dies whenever he wants. Walking back to Camelot all these angels and saints come down saying he's great, so he says "Hah, this is pretty damn cool actually. I don't think its going to go uphill from this point on, so how about I die here" so they rode him up to heaven.

He was also selected by the round table itself as the greatest knight ever forever. He's Mary Sue as hell, but you can't hate him too much for it.
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>>162968486
>Salt River
>Money Valley
Sounds accurate
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>>162966508
What was the difference between the Valentines Event and the White Day event in terms of quality
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If a family in the Nasuverse from pre-Babylonian times was constantly inbreeding with itself for that entire time, would they retain the same degree of Mystery as the first humans?

>>162968572
Autistic fucker should have stayed behind and actually helped out at Camlaan.
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>>162968631
White Day got a gacha and some trial quests while Valentines got an event with lots of CE EXP, shop, some story tidbits and a gacha.
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>>162968665
No, they'd be horrible mutant people that die from being too malformed to do anything so they starve.
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>>162968705
>>162968705
>>162968705
Migrate
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>>162968747
Inbreeding doesn't cause mutations. Having kids after 40 does that.
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>Quetz saying tres, dos, uno
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>>162968631
Valentines was an actual event where every female servant (plus D'Eon) had a valentine's choco CE you could get from the event store
you also got a small scene with them giving it to you
I forget if it had a servant i the gacha but there were a few new CEs

white day was just a gacha with new CEs and Astolfo and a ticket that let you choose one of the CEs for free
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>>162968560
*frenchy rewrote Gawain finding the grail and made their OC win the grail bowl.
fixed
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>>162966958
>>162966958
5* Stay Night servants when?
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>>162968725
White Day also gave a lot of free quartz and the CE of your choice.
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>>162968918
Valentine's Gacha was Nero Bride, I think? I think White Day also had Amakusa, but I can't fault anyone for wanting to forget when he came out.
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>>162968918
White Day was better because the husbandos haded quartz to (you). The cunts just gave you a useless shitty ce.
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>>162969134
But the bitches each had a scene. The husbandos didn't get a scene. Who plays this game for anything besides the fanservice?
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>>162969104
my instinct says it could've been Bryn but only because I don't remember her being in previous events
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>>162969104
>>162969260
ah never mind, it was bride after all
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>>162969241
It was badly written one. So who cares? The gacha CE for White Day were better than the shitty useless EXP ce they gave. And you had to GRIND for those useless pieces of shit.

Only one worth it was Eggplant's.
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The Valentine Event wasn't even an event about romance and your main helper was Shakespeare.
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>>162968908
I'm glad Nasu finally added some Mexican servants.
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>>162945682
Even when the ranks are the same, the power level isn't exact. Balmung is stronger than Clarent even though both are A+ and if it was the real Sieg using it then Mor would probably lose.
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>>162950324
Cu with fame is on the same tier/on par as Herc and Saber, he gets screwed in FSN by being summoned in a place where his fame is flat zero while Saber and Herc have worldwide recognition.
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