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>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=754

>Latest Q&A
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=733

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Cats)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Some other server
Comfy (lol i forgot)
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>everyone is too busy playing the game to make a new thread

Brings a tear to my eyes. Hey everybody!!!!!!!!!!
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>>162872256
>comfy (lol i forgot)
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>>162872504

> busy playing the game

how innocent
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>>162872256
wtf i hate EG now
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You big dumb JERKS!!
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>>162873582

TRIGGERED
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>>162873582
Hahaha nerd shoulda been faster.
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>>162873582
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>>162874021
and the next fight i have him as partner again

ahh the geniusness of ELO, have a bad partner, lose with him, get same rank as him from losing, always get him as a partner
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>>162874226
and... third time in a row with this fucker

imc too busy fixing gvg rigging (just make 2 alt guilds and its bypassed) yet were stuck in this ride that never ends of afkers in arena and since i lose with the afker we have same rank and always get matched together
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>>162874021
>>162874226
>>162874553
don't you have a blog or something you can post this to? just make a youtube video about it so i can ignore it, fag.
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>>162874746
i specifically remember not giving a fuck about what you think
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>>162874839
holy fuk ur such a badass
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>>162874226
>>162874553
>>162874839
Pssh...kid...
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>teamswaaz is threejane
well ok then, now it all makes sense. no wonder im always criticized for "bringing up him spamming me death threats 6 months ago" all he had to do was shitpost about me on new account so i could be the one to seem desperate
kids fucking mental, i dont care if it happened 6 months ago. thats like saying anything "bad" can be forgotten in 6 months, theft , death , cheating , etc. grow the fuck up. once a piece of shit always a piece of shit. beethoven is such a fucking autist for taking that psychopath in
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>>162876034
teamswaaz isn't 3j lmao
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>>162874021
who is teamswaaz anyway
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>>162876326
teammuhammad
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I bet Swaaz would like every single person he hates on here if he met them in real life and talked over some drinks and good food
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>>162877072
i bet you are a faggot.
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i wish swaaz had a blog or a trip so i could easily read about his daily life every single hour of every single day
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>>162877085
why does she look smug as fuck
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>>162854208
Its still the same duration, same damage and same number of hits as Original Ball in KTOS now.

And it looks like they kileld the tanslation patch we used. How rude af. Damn you MrKim.

New Dungeon lvls seem good.
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>>162878751
170 is the old 145?
200 is the old 190?
So 217 became 230 and 240 became 260?
That means 160 and 175 are extinct?
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>>162878969

160 and 175 dungeons were removed.

Not that anyone will miss them, they were totally shit anyway.
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>>162879372
Did they carry the notable loot from those dungeon over to anything?
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>>162879372
So what happens to the items and boss cards native to those dungeons? Mothstem card will be impossible to get now?
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>>162878751
AAAAAHHHHHHHHH give me back that old outdated english patch

And give a few event TP pls
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>>162879503
>>162879524

The items were moved to other dungeons. Not sure about cards though.
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>>162879616
Thanks
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>>162879616
>More fucking unobtainable cards
>Hats from ICBT1 still unobtainable

I fucking hate IMC's retardation.
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have they optimized the game yet?
is the cash shop as horrible as it appeared to be getting?
i'm really glad i stopped playing
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Convince me to not go kabbalist2!
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>just can't decide what build to play
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>>162880274
Anything a kabbalist does can be undone by a plague doctor
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>>162880481

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB1Jm9GUHR0

sorc 2
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>>162877763
must be a cancer oracle kabba inq
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So with "Lank Reset" pretty much confirmed in ktos, what is everyone here rerolling their "shit-tier failure of a rainbow-build character only kept in lodge for the team level" into? I'm making my Alchemist into a Pyro megumin in preparation for cryingseal.
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>>162881969
sw3cata3goon2
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>>162881969
My Shinobi is turning into a Sword3Cata3Goon2.
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>>162881969
>not lank leset

you ruined it
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>>162882197
>implying Japan is consistent with their R and L mixups
You have much to learn, young gakusei
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>>162882197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAmglLZDLzs

He was probably referencing this. But my Corsair3 is probably going full Lolipan. Sword2 Pelt1 Rode3 Corsair1 Murmillo.
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>>162882449

>full lolipan

you're missing that shitty hop c1 pick over s2, heh
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>>162882449
b-but corsair buffs someday
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>Chronomancer:
> - Stop: Fixed issues where it was possible to attack 'Stopped' targets with persistant AOE skills.
about time
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>>162883302

kek, I was cheesed yesterday by a wiz 3 linker 1 chrono 3 wl with stop of agony after I survived his double dt (dt -> pass -> dt = double balls)
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>>162883302
>about time
Got a chuckle out of me
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>>162881298
>6.8k normal attack
>20k machine gun hits
The matk sharing from riding works that well? This is exciting.
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is pure dex better? I have a cata planning to go cata3 for PvE.

and before anyone ask again. I made Cata PvE because i want to go fast.
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anyone else really hate EG?
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>>162881298
not that much dmg
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>>162884546
Nope shes the best girl
she knocks my socks off
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>>162884546
Evil Geniuses? Isn't that some """"""e-sport"""""" team?
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ded game, ded thread
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>>162885480
I wonder what boobies feel like. I've only felt my own.
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>>162885514
big breasts feel soft and warm
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>>162885514
>>162885628
They all feel different. Some are young and bouncy, like the most springy jelly you'll never touch. Other are worn and droopy, like warm melting pudding that doesn't spill out of your hands. They'll all wonderful.
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>>162885628
That's kind of sad, I really like cold stuff.

>>162885790
How do you convince girls to let you touch them?
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>>162886027
I tell them my Dad is the boss of a video game company whos games
Impresses, Motivates and Connects people
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>>162886027
>How do you convince girls to let you touch them?
First I befriend them, then I let them touch me first.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB1Jm9GUHR0

new sorc riding

sorc3's saved?
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>>162886027
Just touch, if you're good looking enough you can get away with it. Just say thanks and walk away after. Depending on the reaction, but usually a brisk pace to a very far location is most recommended.
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>>162886593
The guy is a fucking whale.
Had a +15 Circle Rod with transcendence 5 I think.
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>>162886593
not bad, low HP monster tho
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>>162886486
I hate friends though, it's annoying to have to answer to someone all the time. What if I don't want to help someone out? What if I don't want to spend time doing nothing with someone? What if spending time with people for long amounts of time causes me too much stress and makes me eventually explode on them?

It's really annoying because my parents are starting to put pressure on me about relationships. If they cause me any more stress, I'll start to ignore them too.

>>162886436
I don't believe you.
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>>162886719
That's like a +8 windia stage 4 or something, pretty attainable
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>>162885790
Some are flat, and those are the best.
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>>162886436

your dad is Kim?
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>>162886843
>What if spending time with people for long amounts of time causes me too much stress and makes me eventually explode on them?

No, that's key. You spend short, but fun, amounts of time with them. Always leave them wanting for more and never get rid of the sense of personal mystery. Don't dote on them either. Just be friendly and trustworthy enough to entice. Then the boobies can be yours, too.
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Daddy I want cummys
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>>162887276
Where do I meet them then?
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>>162881969
My snowflake character is amazing, my main, and I wouldn't change it except to cram more circles I want into it. The only characters I would reset are the cookie cutter ones, and I never made it past level 100 with them anyway because they're bores.
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>>162886790
isnt "low hp monster" still like 300k hp?
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>>162887442
>through friends
>at events
>online
You're fucked.
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>>162887582
Eh, I can meet people online pretty easy. It's crazy how many times I get hit on through those stupid match sites. At first I thought it was stupid shit to make me buy a subscription or something, but then I found out I could talk to them without paying anything.
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>>162886790
>not bad
>multiple 30k hits each second
ummmm
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>>162886790
That's fuck good damage, not sure of sorcs cooldowns though. But this could become a nice r8 mob farmer. The guy is pretty geared as well though so that is something to consider too
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>>162887745
Just remember this: getting into someone's pants is easy and doesn't require a whole lot of personal investment but building and maintaining a relationship is much harder and requires all of yourself.
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>>162888259
Relationships are gay though. People just piss me off after a while, and I end up ignoring their invitations until they go away. I've literally never had a friend last more than a few months because I just get tired of them and ignore them until they go away.
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>>162888124
what does summon damage scale with tho? INT does very little unless you have stupid amounts and even then its at best at sorc3 its 1.8x your INT in damage.
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>>162888378
The new sorc riding lets you give your summon your own matk or something along those lines. Notice how the sorcs normal attacks were 6-7k or so, once you ride the fucker it gets a big boost which is what lets it burst that amount.
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>>162888371
That's something you'll either have to work on or live with. I suggest making sure you get sufficient time to yourself so that you don't just emotionally shut down and shut people out after a time. But uh, tits are great.
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>>162887984
>>162887513
>>162888124
these trashmobs got like 250k HP only
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>>16287603

could you be more deluded?
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>>162888718
"""only"""
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/tosg/ - /adv/
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>>162888378
its not 1.8x your in in damage, its 1.8 your int in Phys Attack. Templeshooters actually have ridiculous stats if you go Sorc 3. I mean its like having a Doppel 3 with level 15 deeds walking around
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>>162888741
>that whisper
kek
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>>162889007
yes, that is low in R8, very low.
we mass aoe 250k trash in timerys
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=766
W E W LAD
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>>162888718
They also started with only 2/3rds of their hp for some reason as well. That doesn't change the fact that this new sorc is good, maybe not best, but certainly useable and a vast improvement on the old sorc.
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>>162889239
>XXday, XX XX, 2016, at XX:XX (EST).
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>>162889239
Nice
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>>162889239
>If your current character is a Kannushi and you wish to advance into the same class again, after the Rank Reset you can only do so with a female character.
Wait, so you have to be a girl to be a miko and then get gender changed to be a kannushi?
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>Rank reset before agni

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162889470
Yes, you have to complete quest as girl.
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>>162889239

>PS. We are currently proceeding with tests regarding a Hidden Class, Earth Tower Solmiki contents, Rank Reset Vouchers etc and they will be released as soon as the tests are finished.
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>>162889550
Fucking retard frogposter.
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>>162889470
>Wait, so you have to be a girl to be a miko
Yes, that is old news.
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>>162889619

>IMC were saving 4 months of content to release days before Christmas

Motherfuckers...
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>If your current character is a Kannushi and you wish to advance into the same class again, after the Rank Reset you can only do so with a female character.


etto kim......
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>>162889691
I KNEW IT
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What's a viable musketeer build? I have a QS3 SR that I'm going to lank reset HARD
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>>162889668
Why make a male version if you can't get it without being a girl though
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>That feel when you said you'd take Lalacow on a date if Agni was added next patch
>That feel when it might actually happen
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>>162889897
oracles and sjw
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>>162889691
And when they implement it, it's not gonna work until new years.
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>>162889239
>rank reset is finally coming to itos
tell me what you're going to reset out of and what into!

>Cryo3Sorc2Warlock into some sort of PyroLinker for Agni
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>>162890115
>>162889834
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>>162890115

I only got two characters to reset, and one is completely fine. The other I will just fix a bit.
Will go from Pyro 2, Thaum 3, Featherfoot, Enchanter to Pyro 3, Linker, Thaum 2, Enchanter.

Gonna be viable as fuck when Agni is released.
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>>162890171
go Hunter2ScoutMusket for pure pvp cancer
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>>162890230
>pure pvp cancer
thats not priest3 kabba inq
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>>162890230
What about the rest of the ranks?
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>>162890187
>Linker1 on a pyro3 build
Your links won't even last 2 fireballs
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>>162890115
Gonna reset out of this game and into Diablo 2.
fucking casual pandering shit MMO.
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>>162890391

>Implying anything will be alive after two fireballs
>Implying I wont be able to make link scrolls
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>>162890391
>using fireballs with linker on Pyro3
Pyro3 is firewall only, fireballs can go home
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>>162890457
>implying people actually buy shitty level 5 link scrolls
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>mfw when everyone rerolls Warlock 2 to farm bees
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>>162890457
>planning to make and use link scrolls yourself
Have fun wasting millions grinding.

>>162890498
Fireballs have 2 overheat, short cooldown and get buffed the most by Agni.
Fireballs is by far the best pyro's damaging skill.
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>>162890519
If you're a fencer3 its good for fente memes
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>>162890457
Linker2 is still a lot better than 1
just take thaum1, link2
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>>162890519

Who said I'd be selling them?
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>>162890561
so many people will be making wizards they don't play anymore into necro bee farmers
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>>162890568
tough shit if they get knocked away by doppels, I'd rather lay down 8 walls for 17 hits each thats sure fire every 20 seconds rather than getting my dps cucked by swordies and clerics. Also frees link slots for more targets.
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>>162890568

I'm max level anon. I don't need to grind anything anymore.

>>162890590

Thaum 2 is probably better than linker 2 once we get the scaling buffs on Swell Arms.
Linking more shit together and letting it get hit more times doesn't mean shit if I'm doing 1 damage. At least with Thaum 2 I'll be able to hurt shit even if the links are worse and don't last as many hits.
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>>162890354
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>>162890710

Firewall got a 45 second cooldown anon. And it's not 17 hits each. It's 17 divided by the enemies AOE defence each.

Firewall is good, but it's not as amazing as everyone says it is. Theoretically it's great and hits a billion times. In reality it just doesn't.
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>>162890862
Just use a memehammer
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>>162890301
>Priest 3 in PvP

There's no reason to do that,Stone skin sucks dick in PvP and that's all Priest 3 gives you since the revive immunity duration doesn't scale. Diev 3 is infinitely more cancerous.
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>>162891094

Does AOE attack ratio even apply to abilities?
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Cant wait for the Firewall memers to find out how crappy it really is
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>>162891197
Yes
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>>162891215

First I've heard of it. Would like confirmation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGEYU6_u4yY
this is a Pyro 1 Linker 1 killing level 325 mobs with Agni, you really don't need anymore than this
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>>162886593
>>162881298
Meanwhile, in iToS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNSb9qZxRFo

>>162890115
If you get an adventure journal point for receiving it, maybe I'll do that and let it expire. Otherwise I'll send it to a rank 1 alt.
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>>162891279
if you rolled a doppel you would know
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Does the game still run like shit? Can I be a shepherd yet?
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>>162891317
>Templeshooter dies half way in
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Archer2 Hunter2 Scout Falconer Musket2
or
Archer2 Hunter2 Scout Rogue Musket2

Which is less shit?
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>>162891432
Falcon
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>>162891317
>literally 1/10th the damage
SORC BUFFS ARE REAL
MY DREAM BUILD IS VIABLE
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>>162891298

That person looks geared as fuck though.
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>>162891569
Hope you enjoy making that stage 10 trans weapon you need for that kind of damage.
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>>162891432
Rogue

Sneak hit is unbelievably underrated. The Crit chance it gives is true crit chance, meaning you could have 0 crit rate and that crit chance from sneak hit would still be the % chance to crit you have

werewolf cards are expensive as fuck for a reason
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>>162891367
yes. no.
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>>162889239
This is my chance to make my main actually viable but I'm kind of attached to my class combination in spite of it being objectively weak.
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The CM dint even try
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>>162891623
the guy in that other video only had a stage 4 windia rod you retard

stage 4 takes only 50m
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whats the new cookiecutter Wiz build now that Ele3 can reset out of their abortions?

Pyro3Linker3Sage?
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>>162891782

It's going to be Pyro 3 and Linker.

There is a video of people clearing solmiki and the party has a Pyro doing insane damage. Didn't see the rest of the build though.
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>>162892003
It's wiz 3 pyro 3 sorc necro and it was probably picked to work in tandem with the SR in the party. Don't fall into the trap of thinking we have to copy the Korean strategies, they have a tiny playerbase.
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>>162891432
if I were you I'd drop hunter2 for hunter1 and get rogue2 instead. Sneak rogue backstabs (with karacha set) on a coursing'd target from invisibility is one of the most bullshit thing you can pull of to kill someone. Also grant you smoke bombs for easier time at mobbing and evasion which give you a flat 50% dodge.
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>>162892003
That person was a wiz3pyro3sorcnecro
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>>162892003
>>162892118
>>162892223
yes, he was there to buff the SR dmg
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>>162892338

Yet he was dropping fire pillars that did 40-80k damage a tick and firewalls that did almost as much.
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>>162891637
>>162892148
Rogue sounds nice, but what about stats? I'd like to build it for PVP. Any help is greatly appreciated, I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>162892118
the korean solmiki team is made up of 5 people that made characters for solmiki from the bottom up

that pyromancer has sorc for the cat buffs and Necro for Decay Shoggoth for his SR

They have a Krivis 3 Paladin Priest 2 monstrosity for Melstis and even more SP regen with restoration

and a Diev3 for Ausrine
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>>162892403
full dex with rogue's evasion buff is killer and nullifies every catas rush
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>>162877085
OMG THAT HAM HAM IS SO CUTE!
it's like "IMMAGONNA OM NOM NOM NOM NOM
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>>162892774
Hi Honeymagic
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You know when I came here six months ago saying I wanted to lead a campaign to get rank reset scrolls, you all laughed at me.

Well I have to say, you're not laughing anymore are you?
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I wonder if Swaaz will reset out of his abortion
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i want to reset my life
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>>162893151
Can't barrage the farage
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>>162892403
if you go rogue and (and have many werewolf cards) you can ignore dex almost completely.

Altho Rogue also give you feint, which drops your enemy's dodge by a flat% in a small aoe infront of you, (up to 150% at rogue3 but thats probably just to raise the amount of possible targets). With that you can just go full str and deal mad musket shot crits from invisibility, with hunter ontop of that its pretty much top tier cancer as far as archer goes, as long as you're not fighting kikemancers.

Evasion give you a flat% dodge chance, meaning if you have no dex you can still ignore 50% phys attacks at rogue2, 100% at rogue3 for a small duration. If you're rogue2 with high dex you're basically cancer.

Smoke bomb is a cool little skill that silences and blind everyone its in AoE as long as they stay in it. Never tried in tbl because my rogue isnt scout but in a small arena like the tbl, with no pd, I can see it be really good.

Backstab is where shit gets real. If you have the karacha set (you can have it in quick switch and it works too) and if you can reach someone's back with that skill its gonna hit them for 20k twice AND add stun with a high chance AND if the target is a faggot who's bleeding from PD you can inflict a massive bleed that lasts forever and deal massive damage. You can cast this twice with a 10s cooldown. Its a bossing beast that puts fletchers to shame and remains relevant in R8. If you're caught by a cata3 in your face you can just slap that cunt with backstab, stunning him and while he's stunned backstab him again in the back.


tldr:
full str rogues better at damage and pve
full dex rogues are absolute fucking cancer that never stop critting and evading
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>>162893410
I am doing this 100%. Thank you!
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>>162893410
This seems very theory craftery
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>>162891637
>>162893410

>The Crit chance it gives is true crit chance
False.
It's before an enemy crit resist, your % crit change gets a huge drop with high crit resist enemy.

Werewolf cards are also shit compared to Glass Moles and don't work with half the skills.

>if you go rogue and (and have many werewolf cards) you can ignore dex almost completely.
DO NOT FALL FOR THIS MEME
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>>162893851
well I made the jump and despite mistakes I can definitely tell you that rogue is legit. One rank reset and one stat reset and I'll be 100% pure unfilthered cancer too!
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>>162893990
>It's before an enemy crit resist, your % crit change gets a huge drop with high crit resist enemy.
You are wrong. Please play a rogue first and attack an enemy from behind
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>>162894118
You fucking retard.

Ask a Full CON friend to test it with you and report back.

You'll crit less than half the time.

YOU PLAY TEH CLASS BEFORE SPROUTING BULLSHIT
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>>162893410
A lof of this is on the dumb assumption that you can somehow hit people with backstab in tree of desych and that stuns, bleeds, and smoke cloud will work in PvP when most clerics have a point in Oracle.
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>>162894170
I've already done tests on it retard
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>>162894214
No you didn't, stop plying.
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>>162893990
>DO NOT FALL FOR THIS MEME
Did you read the whole post faggot? Rogue is basically equipped to go ignore dex via giving you flat crit, flad dodge and taking away % dodge. Getting mild dex just makes you more cancer by adding crit rate ontop of crit chance and dodge rate ontop of dodge chance, but if you plan to pvp that is what you want.

>YOU PLAY TEH CLASS BEFORE SPROUTING BULLSHIT
Did you, faggot?
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>>162894265
I did. Sneak hit goes past crit resist you idiot. Stop trying to get people to stay off your meme class
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>>162894265
>>162894009
These are old screen shots or you guys don't know if it even works at r8?
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>>162894443
How effective is lachrymator in pvp?

Also this is my skill build so far and I know it's flawed. Any pointers?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3112899gg.1a24354a51.15344551.15213445.1a5585.1a2a384151
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>>162894523
not R8 yet on that alt

>>162894545
in theory it would be good but its easily countered by cleric, like anything fun in this game.
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>>162894478
>Stop trying to get people to stay off your meme class
Stop trying to get people to get on your meme class

>>162894545
Not effective at all, every cleric has Oracle or PD cc immunity
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>>162894443
>>162894478
First of all, Sneak Hit's crit chance is reduced by an enemy crit resist.

You're free to not believe me, any they only way to get sneak hit is to have Werewolf cards, which are capped at 80%, with a Rogue1 level 5 Sneak Hit, ignoring the fact that you won't even have 100% uptime, you'll only get 70% * 80% = 56% crit chance.

Now that's assuming you do use Werewolf cards, which are worse than Glass Moles by far, especially for a Musketeer.

Glass Moles give you +80% physical attack, which traduces to thousands of physical attack as a buff with the new weapons and transcendence.
Glass Moles also have an effective cooldown of 15s with Varnalesa, which is exactly the same of Covering Fire, which has 150% (x2 with buttstroke debuff) so it even further amplifies the difference in physical attack between Glass Moles and Werewolves.

TL;DR relying on Rogue's Sneak Hit for crit chance is retarded.
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>>162893410

>20k twice

This was two weeks ago, now I'm doing 80k's
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>>162895104

You don't need werewolf cards, feint is there for a reason. For bossing, all you need to do is stay behind it. As of 330 I never miss a crit as long as I'm behind a monster. This is on a rogue2 build though, I don't know how a Rogue1 would go down.
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>>162895928
>feint is there for a reason
You don't even have the time to load Covering Fire in the small window time the mobs stay turned by Feint.

>all you need to do is stay behind it
That's assuming you don't get the aggro.

Sneak Hit is definitely a good buff, but you should use it to enhance your already decent crit chance, not to replace it altogether.
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>>162896115

Oh, I don't have musk in my build I'm a mergen.
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>2006 game
>You can sit on benches
>2016 game
>You can't sit on benches
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>>162895104
Getting varnelesa is impractical tbqh
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>>162897680
Eh, you can afk with your pet in Novaha.
But yes, I mostly just use a small sp potion.
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>>162889239
Their plan is obvious
Gift a free once per account rank reset for everyone
Proceed to make huge "balance changes, ops ehehehe :^)" randomly without any thought or tests behind them right after these gifted reset expires, they don't need to test because next step
Introduce Rank Reset in gatcha recycle shop, just for the value of 3-4x Stat Resets
Keep "rebalacing" the game until the game gets ready to be closed
Good thing i already rerolled unistall wizard class but reading /tosg/ every friday for possible made up Q&A or weeds wiki is always nice
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I CAN SALVAGE MY CHARACTER

I had fallen for the memeshooter thing. Please, someone give me a comfy build to play solo in rank 7+ maps as an archer, because my A2/QS3/Falc/Musk was completely and utterly useless in those maps.

Why solo? Because my client IMPLODES if I try to grind with a party, so it's out of discussion.
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>>162899538
Archers are probably the class that have the hardest time leveling, because very little CC.

Hunter's Growling is an amazing aoe disable, but requires 3 ranks in Hunter, which is not too great for PvE.
Scout is obviously great because both cloak and barrel.
Rogue2 has actually a lot of CC with Lacrymator and Backstab.
Ranger's Time bomb is a quick single target lengthy knockback which is quite useful, but a lot of mobs are immune to knockbacks.
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>>162899953
>Archers are probably the class that have the hardest time leveling,

Top kek
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>>162886903
Good taste
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>>162900690
>Clerics
Nor even a question

>Wizards and Swordman
Way more CC than Archers

>muh melee
Most the danger come from ranged mobs anyway, both archers and mages.
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>>162899953
>Archers are probably the class that have the hardest time leveling, because very little CC.
Hahahaha

Yes, 100% evasion and ranged aoe skills are very weak in this game.
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>>162900978
>100% evasion
Literally wrong, caps at 80%
It doesn't matter against ranged homing mages' projectile anyway.

>ranged aoe skills
Yeah, archers sure are renowned for their aoe capabilities right?
Do not even try to mention SR because RS forces you to either move very slowly spamming 0cd skills or walking face first into a wall, both of which will make you eat ranged enemies attacks.
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>>162891687
Same here, I will just make it slightly better by changing 1 rank, instead of 3.
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>>162889239
Hooray time to reroll my fucking Sadhu.
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>>162899538
You can solo anything as an archer so long as you use the full draw technique. Full draw two high hp mobs together then smack them with snipe or whatever and you'll probably hit damage cap easily

As for resetting with wugu buffs coming I would definitely recommend any version of wugu even a Dex wugu will carry you all the way to r8. Id also suggest getting to class 15 before resetting, otherwise you'll lose all class exp prior
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>>162889239
And with this, they absolve themselves of any responsibility of actually balancing the game.
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>>162889932
>agni
>ever being added
lamo
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>>162903081
Just buy a reset after every balance change ;^)
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Does anyone does the 200 dungeon for levels or people just rush it for Manamana?
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>>162904346
No, it's terrible exp-wise.
Just do the 190 until you're in truffle range
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>>162904495
Truffles 210?
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>>162904534
Yes
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>>162904534
you can do truffles at 200 or even earlier if you think you can do your role in pt without dying too much
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Pyro3Linker1
Or
Pyro2Linker2?

Please help
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>>162903148
tfw you want to do these types of things to Murbish but afraid of being shanked.
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Watch as Clover takes over CNL
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>>162907202
Clover is literally Lavos.
They arrive in a guild and start sucking out all its life force from the inside until it becomes a mere husk, before moving to another planet.
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>>162884245
>>162884245
>>162884245
>>162884245
anyone??
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>>162897073
I used to play that. The refining gem mafia was so much fun until they made that p2w armor
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>>162907878
yes go pure dex
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>>162907418
Where will they go after CnL dies?
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Are you enjoying your new cute friends CnL?
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Imagine the number of dumb erpers who will fuck up their rank resetting.
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I'm leveling up a Cleric3PriestDiev3Miko. She's currently at R6 now (Cleric2PriestDiev3). Should I reroll?
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>>162909583
0? I mean we are talking about people who were already burned by not going meta. Once reset happens and every build (even somewhat troublesome to level build like Chronos) is solely the "best", playing anything but that will be like going melee hunter pre-legion or some memebuild that nobody wants to carry around in dungeons.
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>>162909763
You need a real rank 8 if you want to quest by yourself at levels 280+.
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>>162909763
Well it's not a bad build, but you'll have an hard time solo questing at r8.
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>>162910254
What about this one? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41211biee.1f2a3a43556171.14213545.11243545.1325314155.162a3141566175
This was my first idea for my Miko, but I went for the Diev3 meme instead.
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>>162910254
Having quested as a lancer I assure you any class can do it if your gear isn't shite
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>>162910409
That's even worse
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>>162910416
>Having quested as a lancer
Lancer is a real rank 8 class, unlike miko.
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>>162910662
Doesn't make it any less shite at PvE.
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>>162910409
I'm making this for Miko
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222i8g.1a2a33415561.213f455167719aa5.1121354355.21314155617195.457585
Except that I took oracle at r6 already.
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>>162910662
Hamaya alone outdamages Crush-Quintain, not to mention Clap.
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>>162911157
>Hamaya
It's magic. You won't be damaging anything at r8 with this.
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>>162911157
>not to mention Clap
Clap does literally nothing unless you're a Diev
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>>162911397
See>>162910416
>if your gear isn't shite

>>162911462
That's the point. I'm not counting it because it currently doesn't work.
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>>162908093
cute, of course, then finally FP
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anyone know if secretum rod is in the game? if it is what drops it.
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>>162908325
They're always talking about food and that's cute.
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Dead
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>>162900861
Cleric life is boring, it's slow as balls, but at least it'll be hard for you to die in the beginning. Don't know about wizards as I honestly don't care about them. Only high barb and maybe hop have it easy early game for swordsman, but hey you can dash.

archers are ranged themselves, which also means you can attack you enemies before they do you most of the time. Full Draw is a godsend and any experienced archer will say so. Like you said, scout is good for that, even Flu Flu can prove itself useful despite the long cd. Sapper, Wugushi and fletcher's have dots that can let them further exploit full draw. Later circles get some sorts of cc, though(headshot, Penetration shot, >pheasant, Hovering, cavalry charge)
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>>162915773
There's at least 3 retarded things in this picture.
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>>162909763
Wait, is Miko on itos? Game fucking saved.
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>>162916117
Not yet, most likely next patch.
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>>162916185
>next
next patch is in 3 days.
more like next year.
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>>162909763
Why cleric3 though
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>>162916348
Nah, they said they'll do a big December update.
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>mfw all these people who want to reroll into Miko who don't know how much suffering it's going to take to unlock the class
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>>162917046
The whole game is suffering, at least after that I'll look cute.
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>>162917046
>Reroll
I have a cleric parked at r5, nice try. Don't give two shits how fucked up my build will be either
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There's an oversaturation of clerics desu
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>>162917583
I wish there wasn't, decided to change it up and main healer in this game because "hey these utility classes like Oracle and Druid look really interesting" and now the rarest role in this game seems to be AoE dps.

Like how the fuck does that even happen?
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>>162917046
>implying I'm not gonna macro 80% of the quest while playing overwatch
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>>162917807
No one wanted to make AoE DPS because it sucked ass on world bosses.
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>>162917807
Because the only decent aoe dps in r8 is SR, now that elementalist is kill.

>>162920083
That's wrong, elementalists where very common.
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What's the endgame in Tree of Savior?
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>>162921349
afk in fedi
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>>162921349
Quitting and shitposting here.
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>>162899538
SR3 is really fun
Scout 3 Falconer Mergen is fun too
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is Falconer absolutely necessary for Mergen?
im just coming back to this game because of the free rank reset
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>>162922741
Its just nice to have
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>>162903148
can someone link to the original please
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>>162896115
Its workable with qs for pve, using pavises and caltrop to keep enemies locked facing one direction. Altho in most situations in R7 Backstab is almost better damage than a crit snipe.
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>>162907418
Murbish is literally Lavos*

ftfy
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>>162909763
I'd do something like Cleric2Diev3Miko PD2, 2nd best solo build (especially at r8) next to diev3druid3 except you actually have cute costumes.
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>>162923712
Yeah, I'm revising my build and this is probably what I'm going to do. Is there a list of skills affected by Miko's Clap?
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>>162923892
Literally only Diev statues. It has been bugged since Migo came out in kToS.
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>>162923892
it was bugged forever in ktos so nobody on itos knows what it does, maybe Mia can help.

Ideally its supposed to extend circle durations (but not hit counts like heal or cure). So that holy arrow thing you chuck you should be able to extend and its like frost cloud except it can hit flying.

Not sure if it still works on statues, but clapping owls was something people did in ktos.
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>>162924063
>>162924101
But wasn't this fixed as well?
When they released Miko in kToS, it was possible to do absurd things like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcvsQy-mWIM
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>Rank reset finally comes out
>already made like 10 r7 and 2 r8
>cant even think of anything I want to do anymore
ehhh
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>>162924461
I literally never saw anything in the patch notes about them fixing Miko so I don't know if you can still do that
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>>162924461
I think clap was fixed to only 4 of the same statue.
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>>162924504
get a life weeb
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Is archer 2 sapper 2 wugushi 2 still the best thing to do if you want a sapper?
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>>162925032
Hell no, you go Sapper3 Falcon3 because there's some bug that makes one of your traps hit 10 billion times.
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>>162925032
Archer 2 Sapper 3 Falconer 3 is /the/ Sapper build because of Circling attribute + Punji traps.
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>>162925032
Sapper 3 Falcon 1 Musket 2
Don't listen to retards suggesting you roll a build that relies on a bug. They're the same people who deleted their doppels a couple weeks ago.
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>>162925587
at least you can reroll now
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>>162925587
What about sapper 2 wugushi 2 musketeer 2?
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>>162925587
>roll a build that relies on a bug
>bug gets fixed
>just reroll to a different bugged build
>repeat forever
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>>162926162
It's shit, sapper3 is much better than sapper2 with the new attributes.
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>>162926162
if you want to Sapper you really want to get to Sapper3 now because of the damage buffs for your skills (broom trap twice as strong, stakes hit 6 times each).

You can go Sapper 3 Scout Musket 2

If you really want to go Wugushi its actually a good idea to go all in now because of the hugeee Wugushi buffs coming from ktos
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>>162926457
Why would you take Scout instead of Circling?
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>>162926404
So sapper 3 with falconer 1/mergen/hackapell or
>>162926457
sapper 3 wugushi 3
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>>162926504
I like Cloaking! but I guess Falconer would be better
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>>162925587
>Sapper 3 Falcon 1 Musket 2
>tfw literally played this before it was cool on r7
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>>162927653
>playing archers at all
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>>162926674
>sapper 3 wugushi 3
Terrible

>sapper 3 with falconer 1/mergen/hackapell
What's your r7 there? Hakkapeliitta would have to dismount everytime to use traps, so not that
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>>162927961
>not playing physical classes
I bet you only play magical girls, you poofter
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>>162928249
damn right
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>>162925587
>They're the same people who deleted their doppels a couple weeks ago.
What happened?
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>>162928373

Dopples got one bug fix and most of them ended up deleting their characters, uninstalling the game and a few even committed suicide.

There has never been so much crying about a nerf in ToS, it was fucking spectacular. The collective whining was so loud even Kim could hear it half way around the world and rebuffed the class (though they're still nowhere near as good as they use to be).
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>>162928604
>Dopples got one bug fix
Which one, exactly, the one about using skill reset potions? I'll see if I can find it on sunwhahpark or whatever is that guy's name. I have a doppel, but I've been out of the loop, curious to see what they buffed on the class
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>>162928604
didn't they boost the speed that Cyclone hits though? doesnt that balance it out or is it still overall weaker?

t. cleric player
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>>162928968

Cyclone was hitting twice as often as it should. So they fixed it.
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>>162929028
Never was much of a fan of the memeclone myself desu. Did they touch the other skills?
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>>162929004

It lost half of it's hits, they buffed it by 33%. Now it has 66% of the hits it use to have.
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>>162929129
No.
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>>162929129
they buffed barbs again to compensate
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Ok, I'm finally coming to a conclusion about how I'll build my Migo.

Cleric2 > Diev3 > Miko > PD2
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777iee.1a2a33415561.152535455a6a75.1123354551.162a3141566175

Cleric2 > Bokor2 > Pardoneer > Miko > PD2
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41144aiee.1a2a33415561.1a2a5575.253585.1125354153.162a3141566175

Are those good options? Which one would be better? I'm pretty inclined to go with bokor, but I like my owls.
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just two more days!
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>>162929427
Diev is broken as fuck in both PvE and PvP, Bokor is more solo friendly and easier to level though.

They are both viable.
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>>162928249
I play boys that want to be magical girls
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>>162929320
Just saw that, they seem fairly interesting desu, but I didn't quite get how this "wild buff will work out to be.
>Deeds now "only" kills 75% of my def at max level
>Sturtzhau got a buff to the amount of def it ignores (meh)
I'm more than happy with these changes, overall.
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>>162929427
don't go Bokor, it falls off so hard in r8, I don't even use Effigy anymore because it hurts my fingers to spam it
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>>162929540
get a trip please and also kill yourself, thx.
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>>162929540
Yes, 2 more days *\o/*
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So, did they finally fix Wugushi and made meteor decent?
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>>162930291
>don't go the class that has one of the few movespeed boosts for clerics, increases all dark damage enemies take by 30% and has an instant cast ausrine that won't get nerfed because people only whine about dievs and not bokors
Okay
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>>162931353

Two days until agni!

TWO DAYS!
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>>162931883
>>162931353
>>162929540
No, in 5 days!
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>>162932304
Back to the grave with you.
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kTOS failure here.

I fell for the Inquisitor meme and got a rank voucher, any good build I can follow now?
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>>162932561
Cleric2 Diev3 Oracle Kabba Inquisitor
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>>162932561
You're Cleric2/x/Paladin3/y/Inquisitor?
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>>162932561
a migo!
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>>162932561
Wasn't inquisitor good?
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>no longer having fun with tos
>no longer having fun with any mmo
>come home from work
>sleep for 10 hours
>go back to work
>days off are a hell of no way of killing time

when will someone kill me? please!! just break into my house and shoot me in my sleep or something.
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>>162934903
Give me your bank account and I'll come do the deed.
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>>162934903
It's sad that only shooters seem to be the decent online games published recently
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>>162935038
all that info is in a drawer next to my bed

>>162935250
>shooters
>decent games

shit taste
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Where do kabbacucks put their skill points?
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>>162935537
none of the math skills ur welcome
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>>162935537
Assuming kabba c2
Max Ein Sof, max Merkabah, max (or optionally not if you're a math nerd) Revenged Sevenfold, rest doesn't matter.
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>>162935390
Not a big fan of those, but please name better online games, especially MMOs
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>>162935745
there are no good online games. shooters aren't MMOs, nigger
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Someone tell me what the best swordsman build is right now.
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>>162935909
Rainbow build
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>>162935909
PvP
Sword3 Cata3 Dragoon2

PvE
Sword3 Pelt Corsair Fencer3
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>>162935874
Never said they were, you runt
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>>162936016
?

>>162936047
Whats the PvE build like? Why corsair.
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>>162936047
>Sword3
>Corsair
>PvE
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>>162936247
Jolly Roger for lots of free loot, and there's no other decent 1 circle class.
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>>162936047
>Fencer3
>not Barbarian3 after the huge buffs the class got
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>>162936047
>Sword3 Pelt Corsair Fencer3
Wut

Speaking of pelt, wouldn't pelt 1on doppel build be an ok idea now that deeds doesn't turn your defense to 0?
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What would happen if Migo and Agi doesnt come out before the end of the year?
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>>162936393
>>162936464
>>162936558
I'm guessing you've never been R8 before? You need CC to avoid being 1 shot by every ranged mob in the game.

Barbarian is still trash, even with the buffs, and you'll never want to use those skills over Fencer skills that already have low cooldowns.
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>>162936047
>Sword3 Pelt Corsair Fencer3
>not barb c3

hahaha
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>>162936910

I'll kill myself!
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>>162936910
I will fuck Kim's kids in front of his car.
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>>162936394
Why not hop2 instead then?
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>>162936910
I will fuck Kim's car in front of his kids
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>>162934903
just play Shadowverse senpai
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>>162936910
I will fuck Kim in front of his kid's cars
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>>162936464
>>162936558
>>162936920
>>162936976
Why do I even bother coming here for advice
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>>162936920
>I need to have shit classes just to stay safe
Then go full CON too faggot
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>>162922945
http://i.imgur.com/yxZETgo.png
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>>162937263
Literally everyone but that lone retard is telling you to go Pelt1Barb3Fencer3
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>>162937049
Hop2 is an option, its just that swordsman dont have autoswap so you have to manually change to Spears, Lunge, then change back and that eats up time. Also you cant really combo these things together with Prep since the window is so short

Basically once you hit Fencer 2, you have so many Fencer skills you will literally never use anything else so the best thing to do is just grab buffs (Swordsman3, Pelt etc)
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>>162936920
>Has fencer
>Can't dodge shit
Also, impaler seems to be getting a stun too, I really want to know how that new att will work out desu
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>>162937263
just go barb c3 and also is more fun than sword c3
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Market was a fucking mistake.

15m for that piece of shit? I guess I will keep my zemyna necklace
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>>162937409
>its just that swordsman dont have autoswap
Are you sure about that?
In a korean video they seemed to have it.
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>>162937548
they don't, you can tell by watching the bar, its just their latency doesnt suck dick so its MUCH smoother
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>>162937446
>reminder it will be gone in 3 days
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>>162937234
I'll fucking kill you, you shilling nigger piece of shit. That game isn't even fun.
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>>162936047
>pve
>Sword3 Pelt Corsair Fencer3

look at this retard and laugh
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>>162937630
still i wont spend 15m for that shit.

Screw you fucking jew
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>>162937325
DELET THIS
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>>162937263
I mean, he has a point on CCs being important on r8 content, I just don't think sword3 I the only way to do that. Still, isn't Restrain's stun really short? How would fencer benefit from it as much as Cyclone or rush do?
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>>162937325
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>>162937325
got more of these? It reminds me of those ragnarok pic i couldnt save before.
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>>162937897
>I just don't think sword3 I the only way to do that

u wut m8
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>>162937406
>>162937425
Alright im convinced. Now I gotta figure out what skills to invest in
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Should I trascend my +12 Magas Bow or should i get practonium and craft one of those lv315 weapon?
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>>162938174
The 315 one is much better.

Even Light Gorithos is better than Maga's bow.
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>>162937775
I still think it's hilarious that people think everything's price should stay the same in spite of the population shrinking and massive silver inflation from 290 rushes. Items in general are more valuable than silver now, people aren't doing 130/190/200 dung rushes anymore so all those items are worth more.
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Anon, you wouldn't get mad over a picture of the best costume, would you?
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>>162938273
but mine is +12.

I like the extra HP and extra dmg to large mobs.
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>>162938535
If you can get Pract just get it and craft the 315 one.
Else spending some shard should be fine, but I'd stop at 3 max.
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>>162938514
Of-course not, Anon. But you did not post it.
Here.. i fix that for you :D
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>>162938512
Still 15m is so overpriced for a crappy pendant. I bet my ass noone will buy it.
Eventually it will go back to its normal price and thats the time it will be mine.
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>>162938174
I wouldn't waste shards on a weapon that I KNOW that you'll be changing in the near future.

The 315 bow is better in every aspect, and the +12 Maga can prob carry you until you get your prac and craft one.
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>>162938686
I should start saving silver for this.
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>>162938761
Go farm it yourself and shut up if you are too cheap to buy one faggot
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>>162938836
40 Blessed Shards minimum ;)
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>>162938512
Thats why I farm all my items.

Market was a mistake
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>>162938761
It's best in slot pendant for people that don't care about PvP memes and needs a 1% drop from 130 dung to make, which represents a loss of 100 290 rushes. 290 rushes give 150,000 each, multiplied by 100 gets you 15 million. It's not actually unreasonable.
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>>162938908
deal

Orsha ch1 now..oh wait..
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>>162938761
You're really underestimating the amount of silver that's in this game. People have been AFK grinding bees for MONTHS, people have been doing their daily dungeons and mission runs for MONTHS. Surely you don't think 15 million silver is worth anything at all.
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>>162938972
>>162938897
only took me 250 rushs of 130dung to get it. goodluck
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>>162938761
Honestly I would pay 10m for this. Its been weeks or even months since someone put a peta in market.

So tell me anon, how much are you willing to pay for it? 5m? 6m? DO you understand its a fucking 1% drop right? If you believe the price is unfair, go farm it urself.
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>>162939009
But remember don't you dare fucking say Bee farmers hurt the economy they good necros they need money for dem attributes dindu nuffin.
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>>162939009
>>162939138
>>162938978

I dont give a shit if its 1% drop. Its not worth it.
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>>162938908
I was thinking of saving 4 times that actually.
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>>162939320
Boo fucking hoo, enjoy your expiring amulet
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>>162939120
I already farmed mine, what you're trying to imply?

130 dungeon is the easiest one to rush and you can do with several character for being so low level.
Max Peta recipe is a bit tricky, personally, I never got one on the 190 dungeon even after several sissels, Venoms and etc. But then I just camped some shit WB like Harpeia, that no one kills and got it in 2 days.
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>>162939878
>what you're trying to imply?
that the droprate is shit

i also farmed it with multiple chars and it still took forever. but that was months ago.

i'd happily pay 8-10m for a max peta nowadays, if i didnt had one already. 15m is a bit much and nobody will pay that.
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>>162939272
>farm all day on bees
>makes 250k at max due to the amount of people and several nerfs
>Do 5 290 rushes
>1,5m in less than 1h


Wew lad, lets keep nerfing bees, maybe one day people will understand that bees are a fucking joke, and not even relevant to the economy.
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>>162940168
>all day, 250k
nice try
beefarmers tell me they make 1m+ a day.
nobody would afk a char 24/7 for 250k
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How is Storage vs Maven Class exp wise?

Which one is better to get to class15 only?
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>>162940280
>beefarmers tell me they make 1m+ a day.
And you believe? Okay.
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>>162940168

People AFK farm bees.

They do 3 rushes a day per character of 290, then go to bees and earn an extra million a day for doing nothing.

It might not seem much, but a million a day for doing nothing is nothing to complain at. And people have been doing this for fucking months now and have made well over 50+ million from it.
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>>162940440
yes, why not?
it was a buddy+guildmate

and bee farmers also do 290s + 23hours bees
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>>162940168
>farm all day on bees
>makes 250k at max
Necro trying to not get his spot stolen spotted
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>tfw spent all my silver again
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I can make up to 3m a day in bees afk farming. You need to know the exact spot to leave your necro.
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>>162941190
DELET THIS
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>>162941190
I make 4m a day famalan
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>>162941049
>saving all my silver in hopes of attribute discount
I'll be ready this time
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>many people afk farming
>killing innocent bees

Some of You Guys are Alright, Don’t go to Bee Farm Tonight.

Long live Oracles
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>>162942282
Anything an oracle does can be undone by another oracle, famalam
I get paid 200k/day by each necro for protection.
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>>162942467
>>162942282
I just want to afk in my little patch of bee farm in peace, why won't you oracles just leave me alone
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>>162937446
Is this in Klaipeda? I am fucking bored of farming 130 dungeon and 15m is not that much for a necro player
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>not having your pocket oracle with you

you guys are funny
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>>162942467
>telling lies on 4chan

keep going, famalam

>>162943039
>buying a fucking max peta from all of things when you can buy better things with 15m

Wow guys why are you such imbecile?
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>>162939009
It doesn't matter how much money bee farmers have. The only thing that affects market prices is supply. The prices would be a lot lower if there was a proper population.
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>>162943201
Cause I need it?

If there is a better pendant be my guess and tell me plz
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>>162943246

That's bullshit anon.

It's true the supply of these items is low as fuck, but the prices are high partly because there is a shit load of excess silver being generated everyday.

This is how it works, and it's exactly why in shit hole countries like Zimbabwe the price of a loaf of bread is a trillion dollars. The more money there is, the less valuable it becomes.
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>>162936464

those buffs are literally meant for doppel
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>>162943749
>implying

They work very well on Fencer too anyway.
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>>162943749
Wish they buffed Zucken and Sturtzhau too. Zucken is significantly weaker than Redel and Sturtzhau is just meh tier. Zornhau is good for why it is, a one hit nuke with a decent area and low cd
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>pop free 4x exp tome
>go into level 50 dungeon 2 times
>suddenly rank 4
best event ever
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>>162943429
Fuck off, Im not going to spoonfeed you.

Do your fucking job
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>>162944371
wtf i h8 eg rn
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>>162943994

yeah you'll love that dps loss when you're dashing to charge shit instead of composeeing the fuck out of the mobs

doppel has a window to do this, and higher atk speed with dov. anything that you do as a fencer that is not composee youre losing dps. warcry is the only great thing but the lack of pain barrier uptime is questionable if is really worth. stacking frenzy without melstis + glass mole is even dumber

someone once said that you could stack frenzy with skills now, then, maybe, it can be decent. but all it takes is ONE interrupt or a knockdown while compsoeeing and suddenly extra pain barrier already outdps'd your frenzy/warcry

regarding the extra critical rate from cleave, you can roll barb c1 over corsair c1 (and be futureproof to slash bonus at r9, any 20k base damage slash skill at will be better with lunge+cleave combo)
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>>162944371
Fuck off evergarden
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>>162944463
I know where you live!
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>>162944796
no u dont
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Anyone else want to hatefuck Evergarden?
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Shittergarden always comes back to Tos when there's a potential to steal TP.
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>>162944783
Did you miss the fact that max Cleave will give you +200 crit rate instead of +50?
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>>162945269

you're missing the fact that it last only a few seconds and you need to 'charge' the feral thing. 100 from barb 1 is 'enough' if you remove corsair for this. again, it only favor barb c3 world boss hunting builds with a proper melstis support (200 critical rate + max stack frenzy + warcry + pain barrier being held by melstis is really beautiful).


frankly, there are options, but competing with pain 15 + new attribute + restrain for the average guy is hard. I hope we get the reset class stuff only AFTER the r9 news.
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>>162944961
yes
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>>162945138
no wonder why ohayou is dead now
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>>162945649
>>162945269
>200
>100 from barb 1
Did they buff Cleave or did I miss something? last time I checked it was 50
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>>162946906
yes, along a lot of Barb's skills.
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>>162947048
I've been checking the sunwhahpark archive but I'm getting lost on how this wild thing for barbarian actually works. What other barb changes were made one month ago up to now?
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Rare classes after the reset patch

>qs 3
>a1 ranger 3
>druid 1
>non-murm shinobis
>monks
>bokors
>canonners
>s3less fencers
>hakkas
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are clerics aware that i literally cannot play the game without them pressing their max attribute safety zone on cooldown?
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>>162946906

it's 50 + 10 per cleave level when that feral thing is active, hence why 200 at lv 15 cleave
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>>162947614
>canonners

Hahaha, nice joke m8.

50% atk, on a game where only base damage matter will sure save cannons.
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>>162947801

all cannons will reset to mergen/musket/falc 3 kek
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>>162947614
You forgot
>elementalists
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>>162948579
Who would give up the hilarious ability to CC people for 33 seconds straight with one key press?
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>>162947614
How many people even went for Hakka on klai?

I've only ever bumped into maybe two ever
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>>162948747

>stone curse 17
>fc + audra to freeze
>meteor buff
top kek, elememe is saved
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>>162948747
The same people that don't care about pvp
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>>162948747
>>162949338
wow, that is so awesome.......nobody gives a shit to do that now
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>>162947614
But cannoneer got buffed!
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>>162949845
see
>>162947801
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>>162947801
Non-base damage matters if you are actively upgrading your gear and not just passing around a single set of welfare gear between all your chars, not like your entire moveset is exclusively dethrone levels of strength.
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cutesters getting futurecucked once again

how can they even compete... shake my head...
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test
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Hello? Am I shadowbanned?
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>>162950192
Some got more than that though, not to mention of of those that only gets +50% is a multi hit in the first place. Don't see people complaining about Snipe being weak.
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should i reset and become the wargod im destined to be?
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>>162951657
no. stay swaaz
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Agni drops from normal mobs like anti-dark items or does it come from the flammidus cube?
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>>162952263

Cube. Drop rate is pretty low, comparable to Arde.
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why did i buy 25 drake hearts, i wish i didnt have ocd
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>>162951657
Yes. Let's see if you can actually do well with a good build or if you're just all talk
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>>162952452
You only need 5 for agni.
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>>162952263
>>162952389

Just a reminder, Agni necklace requires Black Drake Hearts, which do not drop yet. You could get them from the halloween event but if you don't have them now farming them is going to be a pain.

They drop fairly uncommonly from a mob that spawns on one map. The map has 1 channel, the spawns are spread out across the entire map and you can expect every single Wizard in the game to be rerolling to Pyro. The maps going to have more players than mobs for the first day or two.

If you're not prepared already good luck.
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Is it worth rerolling the 217 cube or should I just save up and buy an animus? I've already gotten 3 shields. Animus when?
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>>162952912
>good build
>swordsmen
choose one
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>>162953395
whisper Kazuto
>>
So what are "free dungeons"? What are appraised items from them like? The base stats were nerfed, but what about the appraised ones? Is there any info at all? It's in KR and JP now.
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>>162953101
source
>>162952389
ppl said its from mobs
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>>162953101
>Black Drake Hearts, which do not drop yet
Is this true?
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>>162952984
ya i bought 25 thinking agni recipe wouldnt be impossible to get, wanted to craft em for max shekels and flip them for profit
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>>162953634
Yes.

The people who have it are the ones who got on the Halloween cube.
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>>162953634

It's true. Killed over 2000 black drakes just to check and not had one drop.

>>162953619

There is a video out there of a korean opening the 115 cube and getting it. He opens about 30 cubes before finally getting one.
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>>162953612
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items?ulvlmin=120&ulvlmax=170&grade=3&order=cdated&f=1&page=2
items added in Nov

and
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/zones/4780
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/zones/4820
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/zones/4800
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/zones/4840
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>>162953439
no idea who that is, but i doubt he could beat me. and im squire3. funny how no swordsmen has given me any problems yet my build is complete trash
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>>162953880
That's not what I was asking. I know the info on them, but it doesn't show anything about what the dungeons are like, what "free" means, and what they look like after appraisal. e.g. where are the videos?
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>>162954080
remind me in 1-2 hours
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do the decay statuses of different spells decrease at the same speed? I know they're all stackable
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what is the best build if i want to shit on everyone at pvp
>>
people try all the kind of cheese builds at 2x2, it's hilarious

last one was a cryokino with chrono haste

he used stop on me, setup a wall and then pressured. ice shards damages on stopped units. unfortunately for him I had two of that anti-ice shit lv 40 rings so he did 0 damage since he was using a shit 5hammer.

I must say that a kino with perma haste is really hard to bring down
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>>162954826
Cleric
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does iron hook work on clerics with debuff immunity? (in comparison squire's arrest does not work)
>>162954826
full con cleric or hunter (hunters have 100% uptime of chain stuns and is the most broken thing ever)
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>>162954331
>do the decay statuses of different spells decrease at the same speed?
Different sources have different durations if that's what you mean
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>>162954904
Iron hook pierces cc immune that's the only reason it's dangerous.
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>>162955109
cc immune doesnt = debuff immune

does it bypass debuff immunity or no?
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>>162954904

It works. Literally the only reason to play foot-swordsman except if you just want to trash poor players with shitty gear using a very high upgraded evasion set on 2x2 with a fencer/dragoon, you'll need iron hook to do something relevant. Or cata 3. In case of lancer instead of dragoon 2, I even recommend corsair c1 at r7, dragoon c1 offers almost nothing to lancer
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>>162955161
Literally half of the top 10 guilds does it.
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>>162954945
I mean the percent they reduce each time, is it static across the skills?
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>>162953101
>you can expect every single Wizard in the game to be rerolling to Pyro.
The time of griefing with Taoists and elementalists is near.
>>
Just started for the first time, I want to be able to do stuff solo because, I am never able to make friend online so groups might be hard to come by. rolled my cleric,

Thinking Cleric 2, Krivis 3, Miko, Oracle, Taoist. I've played krpg grind games before, I just want to know if this is viable, don't want to hit priest because I do not want to be a pure healer as I will be alone 99% of the time, but Miko is cute so it can't be replaced. Tips?
>>
Any reason not to play on the Japanese servers if I know the language and have a proxy/tunneling service?
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>>162955765

PING
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>>162955765
jtos is better in every way so no
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>>162955894
Thanks.
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>>162955765

300 ping+ on a game that shutters with a already bad net-code makes the experience even more frustrating
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>>162956041
the trade off is that jtos has a dev team
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>>162955564
Anyone? I just need to know if it's outright retarded or not, don't need a deep opinion.
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>>162954228
>>162954080
or now because IMC is rude af

go into this blue cloud and it teleport you into it

as expected.. it looks like another open world dungeon

that mob didnt drop anything but i will kill more and see if there are bosses

>and nobody at Bee farm in glorious Korean TOS
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>>162955161
are you the retard who keeps posting that on forums? you do realize like every guild on top 10 except for maybe 1 or 2 is doing it, IMC doesn't give a shit
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>>162955564
looks fine. an alternative would be some kind of diev/pd for loner stuff
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>>162956335
some in market

they are 30k-490k
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>>162955564
Its fine, you can swap out Oracle for PD which is quite strong in solo, Healing Factor lets you regenerate like Wolverine, Incineration for added DPS, Bloodletting still gives you CC protection

A good solo Miko build is Cleric 2 Diev 3 Miko PD2 unless you're dead set on Taoist.

Taoist is a prohibitively expensive class to play though, they literally burn paper money to cast spells, 1000 each.
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>>162956335
Mia come back to itos pls
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>>162956974
They have kinda neat bonuses, got some of these at the Legwyn bootleg dungeon
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So why is the Archmage bangle so expensive?

It doesnt even look that good
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>>162957095
I was more set oracle because I figured resetting and forcast would be good for grinding, are you saying oracle/pd is better or go for PD2? The only thing I am set on is miko.
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>>162957321
Resetting is okay for grinding super rare items but the vast vast majority of stuff is dropped from dungeons so you never really need to bother with Resetting. Most people go Oracle for Change for griefing or Prophecy + Counterspell for PvP.

If you want to stick with Krivis3 --> Taoist I was just suggesting you could take PD over Oracle for a different toolkit.

If you want PD2 you'd go Diev3 Miko. PD2 has great synergy with Diev3 while still having a slot open for Miko.

PD2 applies incredibly strong DOTS while Diev lets you carve statues that stick around and support you. Ironically Diev is a much better class in solo because your party will never play around your statues. So after that you use both skill sets, there's this window of where you're not doing anything that you can start doing Miko stuff (chucking arrows and slapping things).
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of all the possibly hacks this game can offer, I would use only one: lake mission every single time I went to saalus
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>>162957262
the materials to make it are 8 1% drop items or something
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Thoughts on choosing to go with an Archer2>Sapper3>Scout1>Musket2 using rank reset? I see a lot of Sapper3>fwee3 suggestions going around, but being built around the punji+circling synergy compared to Musket2's kit seems questionable.
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>>162956335
all these miniboss mobs have that clover icon and there are many. but they drop only silver or a few normal craft mats.

found a real clover lucky mob (no miniboss) and it drop'd 3 items.
got the pistol from a normal slime. droprate is not low.
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>>162958969
What stat is tied to that dagger? Fire prop attack? Depending on sockets from appraisal seems like it could be pretty good.
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>>162958358

they don't build around punji, they build around broom + multishot + circling (expand), punji is a bonus. and sapper 2 + scout is better
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which class is better at farming materials?

Archer or Swordman class?
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>>162960097
Depends on what materials. Doppels get DPE but Archers tend to kill things faster since they are ranged and have high damage output not tied to one skill.
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>>162960097
Oracle
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>>162959385
its not Fire, but at the same place as other Elemental damage

https://translate.google.com/?source=gtx_c#auto/en/%EC%97%BC%EC%86%8D%EC%84%B1%20%EA%B3%B5%EA%B2%A9%EB%A0%A5
>Salt property damage
IMC PLEASE
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>>162960542
>Sockets
most i saw on this Dagger (in market) are 2 sockets
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>>162960378
Explain yourself plz
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>>162960542
Do you get random stats when you identify items?
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>>162960764
>>162960542
>>162958969
only the Sockets and Potential are Random
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>>162960097
Werent Swordman>Doppel good at farming mats with low drop rate?
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>>162958027
Lake was a mistake. Eventually they're just going to remove everything but lake and siauliai.
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>>162961468
what is this supposed to mean
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I heard there's a miko class coming out soon, and I want that to play this game solely for it. What do I need to know before I start this piece of shi?
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>>162961468
>doggeydoo
>TeamSwaaz with 1234 damage
>>162961584
It looks like the point is Swaaz still lost when his side had 4 and the enemy only had 3.
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>>162961584
"It's totally not because I am a subhuman squire that I lose all my games" -- Joe ``The Spazz'' Swaaz
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how do you check the gvg rankings?
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>>162961893
sonofman is also doggeydoo tier you filthy whore
point is squire3 is carrying people in TBL which is PATHETIC
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>>162961468
>I always blame my team for my losses
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>there is some dude in /svg/ trying to convince everyone that a female character is actually a dude, despite even lore text stating otherwise
I'm glad I have a general to return to, where nobody is that retarded. I guess it's easier because everyone here is a girl, right?
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>>162960672

>2 sockets

muh dick
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>>162961974
>Deaths 0
Wtf i hate swaaz now.
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>>162961582

saalus is a mistake, anon. being the only source of the most needed item to stay relevant at the game is really a let down. they should add it to pvp as a top 25 reward too since they fucked up abrasives by giving then to uphill memers
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>>162962043
have you ever played brave frontier? the "light element" beginner character is called Atro and he/she is "unknown" gender (genders arent stated in unit info)
the developers always never stated which gender Atro was, until one day after 1000 support tickets sent somebody actually got a reply
i cannot make this up, its hilarious. it went like this
"hey devs, is atro a boy or a girl? we must know its been a mystery for years!"
devs - yes
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>>162961468
>Swaaz lost to TeamSwaaz
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>>162961767
its 7 pains in the ass to unlock that class.
some stuff spawns all ~4hours only
and other players want the same thing. a fuck lot of other players
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>>162961468
>>162961974
>this is the endgame PvP content of ToS
No wonder I quit, thanks for the reminder.
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>>162962280
Lore literary states it's a "she".
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WILL SWAAZ REROLL TO A PROPER MURM BUILD WITH RODEL 3
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>>162962360
Could be worse. Anything else?

>>162962442
I've not been paying attention, are we getting Fenrir as a card, or as a leader, because if the latter, holy shit, not even GBF has Fenrir as a unit, right?
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>>162962504
>proper murm build
>rode3 and not rode2 for slither + either corsair for iron hook trolling or shinobi to be a weeb
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>>162962128
3 and
>18 Pot
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>>162962526
>"Fenrir when"
>">wanting more boy cards"
You can guess what happened next.
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>>162962568
So will you?
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>>162962686
probably, ive never used squire food because im not a social person so therefore i rolled support class but have nobody to support
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>>162962226
lolno
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>>162961974
you keep complaining about your trash teammates, but do you actually think your char is better than doggeydoo's shitty builds
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>>162962568
>rerolling into two circles for a single skill that will get gutted in a future patch
Next you will reroll into doppel.
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>>162959385
With a dagger like that, along running "ice property" through google translate ,it looks like its additional ice property attack. Also seems like you lose ice property resistance similar to arde dagger.
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>>162962598
>-3428 mattk
?? for what purpose
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>>162962773
>im not a social person
shut the fuck up. everybody fucking hates you.
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>>162962951
>swaaz finally admits he has no friends
Don't kick him while he's already down
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Cleric 2, Dievdirbys 3, Miko, PD2
Cleric 2, Krivis 3, Miko, Taoist, Oracle

Are the two offensive Miko building I am seeing, obviously PD has more damage, and statues are extended by clap. but why are people going Taoist Oracle? I'm seeing it on the korean page as well.
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>>162962598
Does it make malleus malleficarum do fucking negative damage or what?
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>>162962773
why did you roll a support class then lmao
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>>162962568

rodel 3 is better. yo ucan pick corsair at r7

>pelt 3

no need for that shit at end game

but there's a interesting build with rodel 2 SQUIRE FUCKING 1 and corsair 1. no one expect that double hook
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>>162962897
Against inquisitors, of course
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>>162962827
i have the fights recorded, doggeydoo que's without gear equipped. every round i literally run up to him and 1 hit him. but the chroni is full con cancer + lv330 transcended gears so he kept reviving everyone
>>162962951
---------------------------------------------------------------------- retard
>>162962831
gutted? how can a trash skill used only for trolling warlock death orbs be gutted?
>>162963060
you cant kill that which has no life
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>>162963146
>getting healed with malleus debuff
will inquisitors finally get cucked by hahamen
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>>162962897
Probably because red gems raise your magic attack too and inquisitors would rape swordies.
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>>162963169
Don't even fucking give him that idea.
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>>162962870
Its not ice

>-42 something
>+8 ice resist
ice is translated
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>>162963169
>pelt 3
>no need for that shit at end game

I didn't knew 100% armor break was that bad
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>>162963184
>>162963286
Unless I'm misunderstanding, it says for swordies only. What does that have to do with inquisitors?
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>>162963320
Oh it might be that new element, soul
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>>162963162
i shit you not, i read ET guide translated from ktos during closed beta
"pelt3squire3" is the only build which can be considered a tank
then there were ktos videos linked in which a pelt3squire3 was taken to ET
i wanted to roll swordie (because during icbt1 + icbt2 i rolled all classes except sword) and i also wanted to try ET so i took that path
>>162963169
pelt3 is good for armor break + taunt hp buff. but theres a ton of possibilities now to choose. going to try for a decent murm build.
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>>162963443
Damage scaling with enemy magic attack
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>>162963527
damn alright

reroll to something good hope you find something you enjoy more than squire
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>>162963443
Inquisitors have an attack that does damage based on the enemy magical attack. If you have a bunch of red gems, you probably have a decently high magical attack, although I don't know if the skill works based on minimum or maximum attack.
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>>162963509
>Soul
maybe that, or >>162960542
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>>162963438

it's good but

fencer has coquille
good doppels are highlander 3

so as a 'tank', it's pretty underwhelming, unless you wanna tank for archers

>archers


in comparison to +100%(350% with headbutt+slithering?) damage from high kick and shooting star does decent damage
that assuming he'll roll corsair or pvp, the only endgame this shit has

pelt 1 is enough for swash,guardian 5 and +hp bonus
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>>162963620
>>162963727
I see, I see. Didn't know that, thanks!
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Does vg have any presence on the old ktos server?
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>>162963921
We had a few dozen people here, but almost all quit it.
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>>162963741
I like salt better, I kind of want that as an element now...
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>>162963229
Doggeydoo told me he & you were BFFs.
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>>162964037
Sad to hear.

Is it possible to patch the game to english/use addons? I forgot how horrible this game is without the addons, and not being able to copy+paste makes using the market a pain in the ass.
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>>162963527
I hope your reroll is just as much garbage as your current build and you quit out of despair. Poorest wageslave NA
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>>162963320
>>162958969
Neet.tv says it's "soul."
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>>162964201
>not being able to copy+paste makes using the market a pain in the ass.
Explain. I can copy and paste stuff to and from the market window, and I don't use addons.
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>>162964347
tosgbase doesn't support that stat yet
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>>162963320
Left damage is without that dagger and right with it.

It isn't fire property, but still boosts it.
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>>162963245
>Pvping on a character that uses a two-hander and expecting not to get shit on
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soul is the new element for sadhu, psychikno and etc

class are even worst now because this element is as bad as dark iirc
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>>162964447
That's weird then, maybe it's the fullscreen.
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>>162964454
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/changes/commit/b9865006ff701dd379a709b015abb4ac7b395ae7
Find "add_soul" or find "113302", highlight it and scroll across until you see 177
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>>162964347
It does not show the stat
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/113302
but guess that is it

>>162964201
Addons work.
We have a old translation patch but its missing some Orash-side / many 2xx / most rank8 things
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>>162964484
>It isn't fire property, but still boosts it.
Only actual attacks (skills and extra lines) are elemental. Extra property damage only gets counted against elemental def.

So, if you cast a holy spell ona dark enemy and have like 500 extra dark damage, the dark damage part will only apply to the dark element resist portion. If the enemy has 0 dark resist, the 500 extra dark damage will do 1000 extra damage. If the enemy has like 300 dark resist, then it will do 400 extra dark damage. On the other hand, if you have like sacrament on, then it'll just do 1k extra damage because def doesn't get counted in extra damage lines, I believe.

tl;dr: extra elemental attacks are just extra base damage that can be lowered only by elemental defense and the element they are doesn't matter besides that.
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>>162936920
>need CC to not be a bitch
>what is helm splitter
>what is seism
>what is cleave, the only skill that buffs crit rate for swordsmen thats not limited to spears

Meme yourself my man
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>>162964506
but anon, doppel is supposed to be madara
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I want to make a super DPS wizard.

tips?
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>>162964539
>>162964447
Oh, cant search for English items in K market. how lame.

I also cant copy&paste kr text.
But there is a new addon to search items by right-clicking them in inventory, gotta have one of them tho.
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>>162965331
Even then its a PvE build, you can't deal with the amount of CCs, Invulnerabilities and Revenged 7 with that.
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>>162964732
It shows the stat now
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>>162965294
In the time that you spend casting all those Barb skills to stack your Wild you could have spammed Attaque Composee for millions of damage already.
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How is this game compared to ro?

Is this one of those games where you can permanently gimp your character by misallocating skills/stat points or is there some sort of respec system?
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>>162965294

what about
better stun with restrain whiele dps'ing with composee? can't compare, lol
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>>162965647
retard
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>>162965504
Thanks Grita.

>ADD_SOUL
uhmm and there is also -soul resist on it
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>>162965760
>Ask legitimate question inherrent in game series
>Get one word response
Pinoy detected
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>>162965905
>game series
retard
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>>162965812
Should be good now
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>>162964104
we were cool before TBL was released, then he turned into cancer
BFF's no way, only reason we talked was because hed shout for saalus or dungeon rushes and we were usually on at the same time so i always ended up clicking on his shout
he probably thought i was clicking for a reason other than wanting to get my dailies done asap
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>>162965905
>detected
retard
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>>162965647
it's good
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>>162965647
there is 0 RO except the similar grafics and sounds

you can easy fuck up your char. and as a beginner most people do.
the dev changes stuff now and then and also makes good classes into shit and shit into good. pretty randomly

stat/skill-change costs real $ / cashshop curreny
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>>162963070
generally anyone who goes Taoist goes Krivis 3 for the obvious Storm Calling Synergy.

And generally PD1 itself isnt really seen as that great I guess. Its kind of tricky to landing a decent Incineration with that build, generally people get Pardoner for Discerning Evil which extends debuff durations. It becomes fricken amazing at PD2 because Incineration at level 10 lasts forever on its own and Plague Vapors is amazing.

Oracle also just has a lot of utility in Change, Resetting while still providing status and magic immunity
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>>162965647

yes. one stat point not really but a wrong distribution is pretty much reroll ou pay for stats reset/skill reset

messing up class choices even worse
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>>162966045
love you

fix mouse-over english translation for them please
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>>162966167

it seems that poison vapor also increases ince damage even more, so it's just a single combo for a huge inc

the skill is not fun anymore with debuf stacking and discerning evil memes, just drop a fat poison gas and enjoy the barbecue
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>>162966391
DE was really useful back when it was just r7 and Incin was single cast. Now with overheat 2 and 12 second duration, I might just reroll my Pardoner to something cuter like migo
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>>162966254
>fix mouse-over english translation for them please
Can't do that since there's no translation for it in the itos client.
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>>162966569
Ok, Thanks a lot for these sides.

You busy or maybe up for some suggestions?
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Does flare shot 15 compare to magic arrow?
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>>162964527
Fucking awesome. Psyshic Pressure is Soul now instead of the retarded impossible to mitigate Melee type.
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>>162966797
no
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>>162966765
Me too, I thought we were competing and now I feel bad.
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>>162966928
why not?

i haven't played fletcher or scout
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>>162966530

I still like DE for supp. serpentine and shit
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>>162966685
Sure, what do you need?

Somebody asked for an exp card calculator. I'll add it some time later next week.
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>>162967018
look at Magic Arrow's CD and look at Flare Shot's CD.
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>>162967081
okay thanks

does broom trap hit flying bosses?
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>>162966797

can't compare. flare shot is a true aoe so if you fit 4 mobs inside all will take damage. but it ticks slow...

magic arrow ticks fast, has a minimal cooldown but it's not really aoe

MA will outdps it 99% of the time
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>>162967038
>manage to DE spear lunge for +14 seconds
>he reapplies spear lunge anyway
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>>162967153
yes, flying bosses don't technically fly or else they'd make all wizards and clerics miserable but they still take flying bonus damage
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>>162967364
thanks a lot

>>162967162
thanks
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>>162967039
Yes, that was it.

And all exp tables (char,ranks,pet,team).
A 'Stat' field at NPC search, like at Item search, to search/sort for HP,m/pDef...

And something i cant remember now.
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>>162966934
We'll forgive you if you allow yourself to be kidnapped.
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>>162968707
cute
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What is the best friendless loser solo build?
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>>162969254
pyro3 sorc linker2 sage
Good vs groups and good vs bosses
looks like its actually going to be meta too
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>>162969254
Cleric1>Anything>Monk

Solo forever without friends.
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>>162969254
literally the Swaaz Build
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>>162968707

ayy lmao

those eyes ruined it
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>>162969913
but everyone likes anime eyes????????????
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>>162969254
Pyro 3 Sorc 3 Sage
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>>162965647
it's shit and dead, better play ro.
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>>162969913
They are cute!
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>>162969947
I like them!
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>>162968707
>>162969028
>>162970230
yay
>>162950836
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>>162950836
>tfw sold my trump archer costume
My greatest mistake
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>>162970852
silly anon
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>>162970852
what would you give to have one back?
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>>162971382
A kiss
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>>162971449
I'd take a sissel instead
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>>162965647
Conceptually yes, the game is made with lots of apparent customization, it's a big invite to players for investing into a single stat. In practice, though, the stat system is very unbalanced and putting points into one or two stats only is more rewarding than splitting, so it's normal to see full CON or full DEX builds. There's also a mentality that every tree only has 1 or two viable builds but it's bullshit. There is meta though, and some combinations are stronger than others, but it's not like "play this or nobody will invite you, ever".

They're going more and more casual now, with skill resets, stat resets, and now even entire rank resets.
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Why people pick cor1 for fencers? Feels so useless.
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>>162971574
how about a kissel?
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>>162972735
if you ever want to PvP you can Iron Hook into one shotting people with the dash attack. Besides that if you go Sword3 Pelt theres not much else to get at r5
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I want to shoot my warm seed inside a Wugushi and maker into a mother.

A specific tosg wugu, actually.
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>>162973202
Kora is a boy...
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>>162973329
SHE'S A GIRL I AM SURE OF IT!

I mean.....who said it was Kora. I-It's not like she's the only tosg Wugu, you k-know....
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>>162973202
>>162973479
sounds like you are a boy. that is literally illegal., remove boys!
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>>162973838

Stop this! Don't bully boys!

Girls are fiends, stop it and be nice to boys!
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>>162973838
What is that older Wugushi going to do with the innocent looking shota? Surely she's not thinking of doing LEWD things to him, right?

/ss/ really is the best.
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>>162974091
Shoo shoo Katz
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>>162973916
TSK

>>162974091
No, a pure Wugu would never.
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>>162974189

Don't tut at me!

Look this is how fiendish girls are! Don't be a bully like this and boys will like you.
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>>162974324
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>>162974368

Stop! This is why you're still single!

I know there isn't many boys but if you're like this you'll never get one for yourself!
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>>162974179
Not Katz here. I am glad to find out that him and I share a common interest.

>>162974189
>pure
You must never trust girls. Boys are romantic and dedicated to their partners, women only think of satisfying themselves, no matter what.

That shota could be in danger. Though maybe that's for the best?
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>>162973916
>>162974324
Girls are such meanies!
>>
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>>162974439
stahp these lies!

>>162974324
>and boys will like you.
as if a proper girl wants that.
>>162974426
please no!
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>>162974627

It's the truth! Boys are weak to kindness. If you're nice and kind to one you'll get a boy all of your own.
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>>162974724
BUT I DONT WANT ANY!
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>>162974789

Of course you do! Any real girl would!

Denial isn't just a river in Rome you know!
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>>162974627
Girls are lewd, selfish creatures that cannot stop their urges. With their fiendish bodies and tactics such as >>162974724 they warm up to boys and then gobble them up in unspeakable ways.

After they're done with us boys, we get discarded and thrown aside, left to pick up the pieces of our emotions. All we can do is warn other boys not to let themselves be carried away the way we were.
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What's going on in here
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>>162974898

You just need to find a nice girl.
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>>162975029
>nice girl

Oxymoron.
>>
>>162973838

go away with your penis envy
>>
How does Kneeling Shot works?

A friend said that made you get attack from your dex, but does it adds on your status window? So If I have 300 dex, I will get 300 attack?
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>>162974876
No i dont. Never!
>>162974898
Lies.

Enough of these proBoy missinfo. Im going to sleep.

>>162974950
advanced faggoty. a old tosg thing.
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>>162975029
But I might get hurt again, I don't want that.

>>162975083
Yes, pretty much. It adds your DEX to your attack. Also good to note is that it affect the damage of skills placed BEFORE Kneeling. For instance, if you use one of Hunter's damage over time effects, or a Sapper's Broomtrap, Kneeling makes the ticks and hits hurt more, because it looks at your attack at every hit, not at the moment you placed them.
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COME HERE NOOB I'M GOING TO EAT YOU AHHHHHHHHHHH
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How are things with your crush?
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>>162975137

It's ok anon. One day you'll be able to be true to yourself, when that happens you'll accept that you like boys.

Until then I pray for you!
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>>162975426

She cheated and i haven't seen her in months

i feel peace somehow
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>>162975378
>>
>>162975426

Still looking. I know she's out there!
>>
>>162975426
I've never had one
>>
>>162975426
Quit the game when couldnt get a karacha after weeks of dullah hunting back this summer.
Things are pretty okay .
>>
>>162975061

There is not nice girls out there!?
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>>162975426
Happily together
>>
>>162976774
Who?
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What did he mean by this?
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>>162975426
I guess you could say we're really close
>>
>Play game
>No saalus partis
>look at thread
>3 parties insta fill
>Play game
>No parties
>Do a dungeon
>Parties everywhere
>>
>>162976774
19 days since he quit
>>
>>162976841

Does that faggot ever shut up? I don't know a single person who doesn't have him muted.
>>
>>162976841
no retards allowed
>>
>>162976841
Clearly he likes the character 3Jane from William Gibson's Neuromancer
>>
>>162977198
No Matter How I Look At It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Popular!
>>
>>162976841
i don't know
>>
>>162977820
Neither do I.
>>
>>162979215
How much money is running 240 solo?
>>
>>162979274

Once it gets changed to 260 like it did on kTOS, it's about 600k a run solo. But not many classes can run it fast enough to make it worth the effort.
>>
>>162979506
What was it before? Less than 600k?
>>
>>162979698
Right now it's like 300-400k a run? Something like that, makes about 1 mill/day if you're willing to put the time in.
>>
>>162979843
So not really better than 145. 145 has too much backtracking for me. 240 being a circle seems like it might be better, but not sure if it takes longer (It seems like it won't).
>>
>>162980070

240 takes longer because the mobs in it got a shit load of health and they can actually hurt you unless you're geared as fuck.
>>
>>162980070
It's better money than 145 and has better drops at the end, I might just not be remembering the exact amount correctly. It's worth to do if you can kill the mobs fast enough, it's super easy to group them all up due to the layout (big empty rooms in a circle filled with enemies).
>>
>>162961212
You literally have to guess when to use DPE. Even if you invest a ton on it, which is a pretty bad idea, it only has 6 seconds and a limited amount of hits.
>>
you know, after delving into other generals a bit I like /tosg/ a bit more, even the erp shit isnt that annoying to me anymore

/gsg/ is still my favourite general
>>
>>162982282
swrd3cata3dragoon2
>>
>>162982282
Fuck off tier whore
Cata3sword3dragoon2
>>
>>162982282
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111777ff.23334d5f6a81.112e3f415965.1a243a4155

full dex
>>
>700 replies

new thread when?
>>
>>162953101
>They drop fairly uncommonly from a mob that spawns on one map
2.
They also spawn on Sycarius 2F in huge amounts.
I can confirm they don't drop them yet though, I killed 200 without any trace of it.
>>
>>162983645
when it reaches 750
>>
>>162983754
Unless you missed a 0 then that's nothing
>>
>>162983960
Yeah, actually I did.
>>
>>162983760
Ok that will take about 7 more hours then? Ok I'll be back.
>>
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>>162953880
This is one of the biggest reasons to drop this game. 6 months just to add a few new items.
>>
>>162982489
>>162982868
>>162983386

I though Lancer was better in PvP?
>>
>>162986448
Nah, Dethrone sis retarded.
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Dead
>>
>>162986448
lancer has its advantages, i saw someone break raise and save 3 ppl from getting cucked by a kino wl, that was quite satisfying to watch
>>
This game looks gay anons
I hope you aren't gay.
>>
>>162989067
Nothing wrong with being gay desu
Not that I am, mind you.
>>
Does anyone has problems with the extended UI addon sometimes not saving where some elements are/teleporting them to random places?

Most notables ones are monster info window, and chat window. There's a way to fix it? I really like the addon, but having to fix this everytime I change characters is pretty bad.
>>
So what is a common Musketeer build?
I'm been thinking about whether or not I should reroll into Meme Shooter.
>>
>>162989067
>>162989618
I'm not gay because I only like cute girl(boy)s dressed in cute clothes and their feminine penises not boy(man).
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>>162991614
anon that's gay
>>
>>162986448
Better in GvG. Dragoon2 has dethrone which is ridiculous in TBL
>>
>>162991447
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3114666gg
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So lonely...
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>>162992916

do u want to suck my cock pretty grr
>>
>>162993338
Only if its small thin and feminine with a cute pink ribbon tied around it.
>>
>>162991447
Qs3 has no synergy with musketeer
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>>162993895
>>
>>162984787
>thinking anyone plays this game
retard
>>
>>162984787
nice bait
>>
Is a phada worth getting over a sissel?
>>
R9 when? There's nothing to do.
>>
>>162995323
For pvp? Both are shit.
For pve they are rather different.
>>
>>162995323

Only if you're a rogue, every 100 crit atk is about 5k damage increase of backstab.
>>
So which class should I choose if I want to roflstomp PvE? I want maximum ezmode.
>>
>>162976841
they killed me at beerp last night.
>>
>>162995820
uninstall wizard
>>
>>162995360
There hasn't been anything to do since 3 days after Ran8 was implemented. Some people got to job 15 within hours.

Out of all the flaws this game has, the biggest irony is the fact that what will kill the game is the fact that they forgot to implement any sort of endgame content whatsoever. Every PvE oriented piece of content is just meant to be a daily chore you must do in order to stay competitive, nothing is made to be actually fun.

Then there's PvP but they lost 90%+ of that user base when they patched out guild wars. The few people that stayed left because the balance is ass and the netcode is awful.
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>>162996053
*buzz buzz*
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are these card really worth this much or is this some gold seller thing?

also I remember getting tons of card before during launch, now I only got one 0-150.
>>
>>162996392
fatsheyra please go to eat some noobs
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHFv1lV_st0&feature=youtu.be&t=454

What do you guys think of this build?

Cleric 2, Dievdirbys 1, Bokor 2, Miko, Plague Doctor 2

Legit?
>>
>>162997357
>bokor 2
just go diev 3, you get aus, owls, silence tree, bokor 2 doesn't seem worth it except for maybe solo play
>>
>>162997516
Did you bother watching the video? It was obviously aimed at solo play.
>>
>>162997357
If you want to solo as a Cleric then yeah
>>
>>162997574
>it's another cleric solos 290 video
what the fuck do you think?
>>
>failed to create mission due to exceeded server capacity

playing on a alive serve is bad sometimes
>>
>>162996392
"buzz, buzz," my friend. Exactly right.
>>
>>162996392
xd
>>
I'm letting it die
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dad
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>>163002014
I didn't raise my daughter to be a whore
>>
>>163002014
Stop sexualizing the cute goons.
>>
>>163002849
Dragoons are meant for breeding
>>
>DoggieDoo

Is that the same guy as TeamSwaaz
>>
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>>163002764
>>163003276
Daaaad
>>
>>163002014
A haiku:
Short hair
Big boobs
My fetish
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>>163004901
Stop.
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>755 replies
new bread please so I can post my goodbye post
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>>163004901

Perfect for Breeding, i can give her my seed
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>>163005358
breeeeeed
>>
>equip linker costume
>spam hula hula

you can't be more cute than this
>>
New bread: >>163005514
>>
>>163005181
hammer time
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