/fgog/ - Fate/Grand Order General

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First for Shiki.

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Grand Saber when?

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Guan Yu 5* when lads?

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cutie

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Every thread until Ere-chan

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Nobu a CUTE.

>>162775749
>>162775894

Wonder if they would talk in Chaldea
>Heard you are a fan of death
>I'm pretty big fan myself

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George Ruler when?

>>162775956
Nasu has confirmed she'll be unplayable.

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Remember that the heroine is the key to the final battle, max her out

Last gold you rolled passes you a note:

>Do you like me?
>[Yes] or [No]

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How good is Emiya's bond CE?

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Happy Birthday, Nero!

Who's that guy from the streams that always looks disgusted? What's his role and why is he there?

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Can we set the record for fastest /fgog/ to the imagecap?

>>162776029
Do you kill yourself when Nasu tells you to?

>>162776018
Top cutie

Leveling her right now

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Oh shit I just noticed that white feathers falling around Enkidu. Did they update that in? If they did, did they at least make him good?

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>>162776067
>Caster Gil
Maybe

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>>162776067
>quetz
yes

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Best boy.

>>162775894
Her event had the best battle music I just loved the theme of it all.

>>162776067
> Karna
No. Fuck him.

>>162776092
He's in charge of the sprite animation team iirc.

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>>162776029
"CCC will be the last thing I'll write about Fate" - Nasu

>>162776097
No, but you should probably go do that soon.

>>162776092
Intern-kun?

>>162776152
>Okita
>Top Tier
>Drake
>High Tier

>>162776078
I never use it, personally. The stars aren't enough and the NP damage doesn't amount to much with his NP gain being what it is. Better off just using an LB'd CE that can give him more attack as well as effects that make more of a difference.

>>162776067
>Helena
I got golden sparks from you and was disappointed, only because I already rolled you before. Yes.

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>>162776067
>last gold was Enkidu

NO YOU MOTHERFUCKER. YOU KEKED ME OUT OF MY LOLI MEDUSA

>>162776283
You're right, Drake is trash

30 min
one snake jewel
kill me now

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Here it is /fgog/.
Been killing boars for a while now, and now can confi that the droprate of these things is: 6%.

Good luck with those skills

>>162776067
>Nightingale
N
Not with that card art

>>162776247
She's not going to be playable. Get over it, waifushitter.

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Cute Santa

>>162776152
King Hassan is not good.

I'm doing a no gold challenge playthrough, what should my team be?

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>>162776067
>fourth copy of Stheno
No.
I most certainly do not.

>>162776373
>6%
Lord help me.

>>162776308
Wouldn't Knight's Pride be a better option for him? Or Brave Elizabeth or Joint Recital?

What's the best CE for Enkidu?

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Posting best Rider!

>>162776152
I understand that this is a shitpost, but it reminded me of something: why is Ilya so bad when Kuro is absolutely nuts? I grailed her to 90 and she's way better than Artemis/Orion, in comparison to Ilya who feels way worse than Sanzo.

>>162776568
Zouken. :^)

>>162776067
>Ana
I prefer her older self

>>162776443
The king Hassan we had was np 5 too, I don't think he would be that good at np 1

>>162776392
Tell that to the butthurt tiamatfag

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>>162775749
How can a spooky skeleton be best girl?

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>>162776067
>Caster Gil

>>162776457
Kiyohime, Kotaro, Robin, Ushiwakamaru, Cu, Andersen, Leonidas, George.

>>162776392
Not that guy, but I'm not at all convinced that Nasu can say anything about the future with certainty. He's changed his mind about so many things so many times that his word isn't exactly worth much, I'm afraid.

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Posting evil

>>162776250

Might also be worth reexamining the Lion King's comments about the Babylon singularity and grail leading to Solomon's temple. Maybe he needs us to resolve the singularities to reach Chaldea.

>>162776443
>>162776623
NP5 at lvl 90 with 50% buster up hits for 100k outside insta kill on a beast

That's honestly nothing

>>162776359
No she isn't.

>>162776152
This is a niplist from the previous thread, but the premise used for the "useless" tier means that their role can be done just as well by something in a lower tier (less unit cost)

>>162776568
Serene Moment, Imaginary Around or Sumo. Depends on your playstyle and what you want to do with him.

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Even greater evil

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So now that we know we'll have to deal with beast class, who's planning on getting the bond CE and grail their Angry Manjew?

>>162775640
>b-but she has this one niche that's never going to be utilised!
I will be laughing my fucking ass off when I see you pitiful Medbfags with Stockholm syndrome crying because Solomon ends up not having a weakness to Riders, being a supposedly strong raid boss and all.
He may even end up Beast class, who knows.
>Facebook
Says the one whiteknighting for a useless potatowhore.

>>162776801
Source please.

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>>162776457
Caster Cu, Kiyohime, Boudicca, David, Jekyll, Geronimo, Bedivere, Jaguarman.


So, everyone you get from the Story. Exact team composition is up to you.

Have fun.

>>162776810
It's the same number as any other single target buster np (1000%), genius.

>>162776373
what's your sample size?
nip spreadsheet has it at 13.6% chance per run off a sample size of 338

>>162776854
>muh power creeped waifushit :^)
Maybe you'll roll a better rider someday

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The ultimate evil. Do not open

>>162776067
>Carmilla back in the Halloween 2015 event rerun
[Y-yes]

>>162776972
>planning

I've been doing it since i've gotten him without caring what it does.

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Damedusa

>>162776067
>Ana
Absolutely.

>>162777012
I said it also had the 50% buster buff that comes with King hassan's pupil of the night skill

>>162777039
100 of course, will keep doing more

>>162776017
We don't really know enough about King Hassan to be sure. If his abilities are in any way related to MEoDP and the lines of death, there's definitely going to be a sense of understanding between them.

Hopefully when he comes out, he'll at the very least have a My Room line for Assassin Shiki that explores this.

>>162777167
ah, that makes sense
good luck anon

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>>162776972
No, I burned him long time ago. Couldn't give a shit about him. Never liked his character and the fact that he's useless gameplay-wise doesn't help. I don't need him to deal with Beasts.

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>>162776964
>>162776801
Cutest evil.

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What are you listening to while grinding, /fgog/?

>>162777159
so?
It's the same damage kintoki/cu alter NP5 would have done

>>162776457
Do a 10-Roll in Fuyuki. The non-golds you roll are yours to use, along with Mashu, and any non-gold you use as a story support. That's it.

>>162776972
I still don't have him despite trying to get him since he came out.

>>162777210
Maybe he is similar to Void Shiki

>>162777346
so without that buff it would have done far less than 100k

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>>162777327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt9zybT_tO0

>>162777435
Im talking about them with a 50% buster up too

>>162777408
Maybe. But there's a lot of "maybes" around him.

>>162777274
>the fact that he's useless gameplay-wise doesn't help.
Uh no? He does base damage that doesn't get affected by Defense buffs. People used him to beat Nero's Siegfried

>>162776017
>>162777210
> Shiki and King Hassan sit around pointing out interesting shit about the Lines of Death they can see on people
> Scat always sits in the corner moaning about how impossible it is for her to die
> the two of them just smugly look at each other

>>162776067
>Gorgon
Let's be friends, we can even be like a family

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>>162777105
Why does she have that sick mentality of making children happy?

>>162777539
Shiki and KH need to hurry up and get on that.

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>>162777105

Giving it some thought, Tiamat might be able to get summoned as a Servant in a similar fashion to Altera. What is summoned as Altera in GO is pretty much just a backup brain of the giant Sefar. Femme Fatale was described in similar terms, like a sort of secondary brain to Tiamat. The critical difference is that Altera was recorded by history as something closer to a human existence, as Attila the Hun. Some workaround reasoning shouldn't be difficult, though.

>>162777507
That's why is cool to talk about it

>>162777327
Nothing
I'm a sad man
and also i'm at work.

>>162776027
17k HP
9k ATK

BBAAQ Deck

>Guardian Knight EX
3 turns duration
7 turns CD (5 maxed)
Taunt
+50% DEF
-1k damage taken

>Protection of the Faith A+++
Same as King Hassan and Vlad Lancer

>Bayard: The Phantom War Horse
1 turn invulnerability to all
Self Guts 5000

>NP:
Interfectum Dracones: Dragon Slayer
AoE Arts
Apply dragon status to enemy 3 turns
Apply 30% damage buff vs dragons 3 turns
Massive AoE damage

Is this too broken?

>>162777504
I can tell you that NP1 Kintoki hits for over 80k with his buff. NP5 would be much higher.

>>162777616
But really though. It would do us all a favor.

>>162777595
she's a pedo

>>162777650
Work harder.

>people are rolling this bait gacha
>people are going to roll raid event gacha
>people are going to roll paid bait gacha
And then a New Years gacha featuring Merlin and King Hassan like Karna and Arjuna last year will come out.

>>162777327
New Metallica album

Its suprisingly decent

>>162777595
Sick mentality is killing people that lose to her in a race, unless they cheat her with apples.

Then fucking in a divine spirits temple after having a vow of chastity

So we can agree that Quetz > Ozzy, right?

>>162777734
Some people work and can afford to get more money dumbass.

>>162777734
I only care about KH and even then I want Enkidu and Gorgon more.
Why should I care?

>>162777539
I feel like King Hassan will be less about lines of death and more about being a living Black Barrel.

>>162777327
twitch streams

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>>162777327
https://youtu.be/wSCEC0lYTzk

>>162777769
Type-Moon Atalanta is still a virgin

>>162777539
>>162777616
>They make up little games to play about doing the most creative "Kills" and one uping each other
>Shiki flicks a coin having it bounce of surfaces and lands on a bed causing it to collapse

>>162777734
Good thing I want them all and I don't need to hoard poverty quartz.

>>162776606
It's called NP5.

>>162777519
One fight in a million and most of the playerbase still cleared it fine without him.

>>162777846
She had some line indicating she didn't want to remember what happened afterwards, as if saying it maybe still happened.

>>162777682
I can tell you from the datamine that they have the same damage on their NP like any single buster np. I don't write the number, deal with it.

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I want to hold pinkies with my waifu!

>>162777714
I'm doing my best, but also Babylonia is fucking ruinning my shit.

Shiki can see the lines but King Hassan can actually draw them
He has a magic lines of death crayola

>>162777912
being married alone and chasing the apple like a bimbo was probably shame enough

Why is Perseus painted as a coward? I mean he's the same guy who picked a fight with a dragon of his own volition.

>>162777915
Stats and modifiers are a thing. Just because they have the same multipliers on their NPs doesn't mean they'll do the same damage.

>>162776067
I forgot if it was CasGil or loli Medusa
Yes for both regardless.

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>>162776067
>Yes.
I want her to be happy again, she's had a hard life.

>>162778046

That's what Medusa thinks of him and that's because she's totally pissed off about him killing her.

>>162778186
But didn't she wanted to be killed?

>>162778046
Medusa's only encounter with him would be when he was pretty scared facing her Gorgon form before their NPs activated and Gorgon lost instantly

>>162778184
Evil does amazing things to one's breast size.

>>162776067
How can Fionn pass me a note after he's already been burned into a rare prism in Da Vinci's oven?

>>162778287

Yes. Medusa is a woman of hypocrisy and contradictions. Kind of like Scathach.

>>162777147
Very cute! If you're the one who made that, please do more.

>>162778013
> Garden of Order pt2
> It's the Tsukihime Collab
> both Shikis and King Hassan
> we get an in-depth explanation about the differences between the two forms of Mystic Eyes of Death Perception and the power that King Hassan has
> end of the event is Raid Boss Balor

I can dream.

Are Gorgon and Quetz good enough to drop some cash on?

When did we get the jew years info last year?

>>162778426
>gameplay
Kill yourself.

>>162778013
based

>>162777147

Nice

>>162776067
>Pirate Sluts
Yes.

>>162778426
Quetz is the new best single-target NP Rider. Gorgon is for waifu only, not gameplay.

>>162778409
It is indeed quite the dream to think that Nasu hasn't forgotten Tsukihime exists because he's too busy milking Fate to the absolute brink.

>>162776606
Ilya's rather poor NP gen is her biggest weakness. Her second skill helps but its cooldown and the fact that it's also an invuln means you won't use it often. Sanzou also has some capacity to buff the team while Ilya doesn't really.

But if you look at what other units are capable of doing for her instead of what she can do for other units, I think Ilya comes out ahead. Ilya can gain a lot from being paired with units like Ozzy, Nightingale, Merlin when he comes out, Edison, maybe even Tamamo. It's just that most of those are rare.

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>>162778426
Quetz is arguably best ST rider.
Plus she's super cute.

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My wife, My queen, My everything

>>162778426
>spending money because of gameplay
You should feel ashamed.
To answer your question, no.

>>162778385
https://twitter.com/yumanosuke

>>162778548
Show her bond CE 'Scatfag'

>>162777734
I'm just rolling the quartz I'd saved for Taiga in case she was a 4* or higher, so that I can max her NP seeing that I got her for free.

>>162778542
>Quetz is arguably best ST rider
cute but wrong

>>162776067
> Ruler Martha
Would marry and fuck like a Mormon.

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>>162778542
>best ST rider
Not when we are around.

>>162778537
He mentioned Arc on his blog when talking about Enkidu on his latest entry(yesterday).

>>162778702
What'd he say about her?

>>162778537
He mentioned Arc and Enkidu can do the same (about distributing stats).

>>162778426
Gorgon is absolutely trash, Quetz is a solid buster crit Rider. If I recall correctly, we had a paid gacha for 24hs on December 31 and then a week of limited rate-ups, we knew about this a few days before thanks to datamine but the official info came the day before as usual.

Honestly if you're gonna spend money, I'd spend it on the paid gacha unless paying multiple times is not a problem for you.

>>162778792

That she can overclock herself using the power of the World, same as Enkidu can when the World is his master (it's not possible for him if it's a human master since obviously no human can supply enough mana to do it).

>>162778792
He compared Enkidu's stat-shaping ability to hers.

>>162778792
Enkidu's ability is about the same as Arc's or something

>>162778338
I like to think of her character as an onion. She has layers. On the surface she appears to be some stone cold and sexually liberated badass. But, underneath that chilly exterior, she struggles with a lot of insecurities and really only wants to protect the people close to her. And underneath that, she's actually quite easygoing, and enjoys little things in life like sitting down with a good book or going on long bicycle tours. And underneath that, she's kind of a bitch.

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>>162778548
Sorry I posted the wrong image, Here's my tyrant, my queen, my wife.

>>162778680
What's that Martha's role in a team, offensive Ruler?

>>162778792
Nothing really. He was using her as a comparison. He was saying that Enkidu can allocate 30 points among his stats but that his base stats depend on his master. If his master is the Earth he base stats are all A and he can make them all A+ at the same time. Then he said "which is like a certain true ancestor princess".

>>162778970
>enkidu is fate version of arc

I need Stheno.

>>162778920
>(it's not possible for him if it's a human master since obviously no human can supply enough mana to do it).
If it were just an issue of magical energy then a True Magician should be able to do it. Zelretch could siphon it from parallel universes and Aoko could do it from another time.

>>162778792
''Enkidu's transformation - it can change from physical to magical strength, tinkering with the five parameters of strength, endurance, agility, mana and luck, excepting NP. Maximum value will differ according to the Master. If the Master is the Earth, then all parameters are set at a base of A, with an additional variable points of 30 to be used freely. This can allow him to overspec to be A+ in every parameter. A disgusting thing that can also be done by a certain True Ancestor Princess.''

>>162778951
Fuck off Misora.

http://www.4gamer.net/games/366/G036607/20161214113/

I can't read runes. Are we getting Servants in AR soon?

>>162779043
>he sucks

Wew can't wait for the shitstorm when Arc is released and she also fucking sucks.

>>162778694
>>162778676
Compare a NP5/5 Quetz to an NP5/5 Kintoki

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>>162778956
Cumdumpster

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>>162776247

FUCKING BODIED

>>162779054
I don't think so.

Caster Gil is better than any of them and he'll have mana problems. You guys sure love to overblow those two when they are confirmed mediocre in comparison to Gil, Merlin or Solomon.

>>162779146
Pokemon GO Fate version. Neet.

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>>162779087
>Having A+ in all areas is disgusting levels of overclocking
>When he already created this

>Tried to max my Bride
>Run out of QP

When are we getting a bigger QP quest?

>>162779184
>NP5 Quetz
>Whale

>NP5 Kintoki
Honest Player

>>162779153
Could you imagine the shitshow? Arc is pretty much the sole character in that forgotten franchise that still places well in TM popularity polls, what a cunty thing that would be to do.

I'm bored.
What do I do for 7 days?

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>>162779053
Yes you do. Her divine buff is really nice.

>>162778885
>and then a week of limited rate-ups
source?

>>162779184
All trash compared to Ozymandias
Also
>Compare a NP5/5 SSR to an NP5 Welfare
Are you retarded?

>>162779054

In theory, yes, but counting Magicians as humans is just silly.

>>162779323
Farm bond, apparently.

>new bait gacha yesterday
>do 10 roll
>nothing
>do 10 singles
>2 Jaguarman
>now NP4 Jaguarman
>decide this morning to roll singles until I NP 5 Jaguarman
>30 singles later
>no Jaguarman
I did get Uncle Vlad (Extra) and Gorgon out of it, but that's 2/50 rolls of nothing

tl;dr rate up is a lie

>>162779269
Moon Cell is its own class of bullshit.

>>162779153
Arc jobs in her own fucking route of Tsukihime. It's hard to forget this.

>>162779301
What shitstorm? Arturia BTFOS her in popularity and most of her units are mediocre. Shiki is also more popular and are you going to tell me Void is the best Saber or Shiki Assassin is broken?

>>162778046
He killed my waifu!!!
-Nasu.

>have only 1 support servant on my friend list that has a LB Mona Lisa. Have to refresh and search for 3 minutes straight each time I wanna farm QP.

I really wish I could just pick the support servants I want off my friend's list. This shit is getting really tedious.

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>>162779323
Die, come back on the 7th day.

>>162779146
Go around Japan taking photos and finding Servants, once you catch them all you get a gift from Chaldea. It's one of the events they announced during the stream. Nobody knows what the gift is yet. Shouldn't be anything huge anyway.

>>162779146
What's AR?

>>162779269
Moon Cell operates under different rules and they're all complete bullshit to everything else. Extra is a mistake.

>>162779520
Augmented reality.

>>162779387
>>162779290
Ok so you admit you're not actually arguing who's better, just who your poorfag ass has at NP5/5

>>162779413
Best quest?

>>162779503
It's a special servant that you can transfer to FGO.
Gaijins literally BTFO.

>>162779587
>t. whale

>>162776067
>3rd Beowulf
Fuck off

>>162779607
The mountain with a whole bunch of Berserker boars in Babylon. Make sure to take Mordred.

>>162779587
No, you're really retarded
Also NP5 Ozy > her

Buster NP damage modifier and all, get. fucking. bodied.

>>162779247
Caster Gil's Mana stat is only B. I don't think that's comparable to Zelretch and his "I can literally take mana out of any of the infinite parallel wolds at any time"even if Gil might be able to do some more impressive things with his mana than Zelretch could.

>>162779470
Arc doesn't job, she gets outright fucking killed and is forced to heal for the entirety of her own route. In the Ciel route, when Ciel heals Shiki instead of her and she gets a chance to recover, she wrecks.

>>162779534

It's the same rules as the real world inside HGW simulations.

>>162779706
Merlin can do any True Magic without problem. What makes you think Gil can't?

>>162779685
>Buster NP damage modifier
you mean the one Quetz also has?

>>162779382
I was talking about what DW did last year. We had a paid gacha and then a normal gacha featuring Karna, Arjuna, Kintoki, Gilgamesh and Scathach, a different one each day of the week.

>>162779470
I'd say the vast majority of Arturia's are plenty serviceable. The Saber class is so basic that even vanilla Arturia operates well as a wave clear still, despite being a day one Servant.

I'm not saying Arc would need to be Jeanne Alter levels of bullshit, but if she sucks there is going to be backlash harder than your normal character.

>>162779802
>Merlin can do any True Magic without problem.
Where are you getting this from?

>>162779685
>ozzyfags this dumb

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>>162779482
Should've farmed the event

>>162779247
The difference is that, while they are weaker as mages, they have True Magic that gives them some complete bullshit. Zelretch can call up as much mana as his body can handle and Aoko can move things from other points in time to her location (while also hastening the heat death of the universe).

>>162779706
The Medea Class Card only had access to a finite amount of Magic, much less than the real Medea, and it still managed to beat down Illya and Miyu, both of whom had access to said infinite mana.

The Magical Power stat isn't about the amount available, either. It's about how much can be brought to bear at once.

>>162779706

Merlin is confirmed to be able to use every single True Magic with zero of the ramifications and restrictions that Zelretch and Aoko have to deal with.

And Gil is just as qualified as Merlin is to be Grand Caster.

Gil is the motherfucker who thought it'd be funny to summon an entire Holy Grail War after summoning Merlin which took an absurd amount of power to accomplish.

All that with only B rank mana.

How do I make Gorgon Medusa useful? She decided to show up from my singles instead of Quetz.

>>162779802
>>162779961
Source or bullshit.

>>162779961
>Merlin is confirmed to be able to use every single True Magic
Can you source this?

Could Gil and Enkidu together kill a Type?

>>162780010
>How do I make Gorgon Medusa useful?
You transform her into rare cubes.

>>162776067
>last gold i rolled was probably 3 months ago
>it was lesbo pirates
So yes.

>>162779919
It's not about fighting though. This is just about supplying a servant with mana.

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>>162779961
>because gil is "qualified" to be a grand he can do the same shit merlin can
Gilfags, everyone.

>>162779708
Arc jobs to everyone even shitty mooks in her own route. Don't try to deny this. She's a disgusting jobber.
Take fucking Saber for example. Saber got her fucking insides turned into mincemeat by Cu's curse (which she still bears until his death) and never fucking whines or complains about it, she's beaten by Herakles because of her low stats, that reason, and because she gets 0 prana from Shirou (who even sucks her prana to heal himself through Avalon), yet she manages to off Medusa before collapsing.

Arc cannot fight anything successfully on her own route. B-But Ciel route, nobody brought it up. I'm talking of the route she should shine the most, she ends up as dead weight only good for fainting or being a meatshield while Saber takes down fucking Gilgamesh.

Arc is an embarrassment. I hope Nasu's going to rewrite her to make her less of a jobber.

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Solo rolled after waking up and already got Medusa at first try. Been really getting lucky with my rolls now ever since I started doing solos instead of 10 draws so its giving me a motivation to play this again.
Stopped playing because I've spend about 600 quartz on 10 rolls and never got a single SR or SSR servant.

Should I roll now, or wait for whatever gacha comes with Solomon's Raid?

>>162780101
Should have been a Lamia like her goddess form.

>>162780037
No, but King Hassan and Shiki can.

>>162780019
While it's bullshit that he's saying that Gil can do the same things, he's right that Gil summoned a while HGW worth of servants because he felt like it. That's why Amakusa, Leonidas, Ushi, Benkei, Ibaraki, etc were in Babylon.

>>162780010
keep a mozart in your pocket

>>162780162
You should roll for whatever you fucking want.

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>>162780010
How do I make Enkidu useful? She decided to show up from my singles instead of Medusa lily

>>162780019
>>162779898

Babylon.

Should be obvious from earlier. The "five sorceries" are shit tier magic tricks for modern (aka shittier) magic users. And anyone with a Root connection (which Clairvoyance EX provides automatically) can perform them.

Aoko and Zelretch are mediocre-tier as far as Fate grand mages go.

>>162780162
No harm in waiting since the gacha doesn't leave until 12/31. Might as well wait a week and find out if they put another gacha.

>>162780206
>managed to summon chink shitters
>which only good summon was Merlin

I dunno about Gil's taste in servants.

>>162780240
so lolheadcanon

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>This girl shows up in your room

What do you do?

Where the fuck is Zelretch during the events of Grand Order? That fucker can traverse realities, and if there's one Zelretch per reality with this power, shouldn't there just be infinite Zelretch running around the multiverse fucking around? Why don't they all just team up with each other to help save humanity?

>>162780101
Thanks for keeping us posted. Where do I subscribe?

>>162780180
If King Hassan can reliably give things a concept of death then he can do it, on the other hand Shiki cannot kill things that don't have lines.
>>162780206
I wanted source about the true magic stuff. Because it sounds made up, it makes absolutely no sense.

>>162780240
Infinite mana is still infinite mana. They may be tricks, but they're useful when we're talking about supporting a servant.

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What's happening here?

>>162780240
You're retarded.

>>162780367
He's helping your clear hands.

>>162780236
you make him a rare prism cube

>>162780359
I teach her how to read

>>162780397
gay shit

>>162780240
Nice headcanon.

>>162780325
He summoned Leonidas, so he's alright in my book.

>>162780392
The true magic stuff he said is bullshit.

>>162780367
He's a CE now, haven't you been paying attention?

>>162780392
King Hassan has been shown to be able to give things the concept of death, but we don't know if he can cut the lines of death. Shiki can kill anything that has a concept of death, but cannot kill something without that concept. Put the two together and you have a team that can kill anything.

>>162780236
How do I make Medusa lily useful? She decided to show up from my singles instead of Enkidu.

>>162780367
He's busy giving you 80% NP charge

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>>162780359
>proceed to report her to the holy church for her sinful and slutty attire.
>watch as she burns at the stake again
>smile and walk back to my house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nsuSroxxJI

>>162780325

Gilgamesh had zero catalysts to summon strong Servants with because, as you might have guess with your own brainpower, he predates almost every other heroic spirit ever.

>>162780325
>I dunno about Gil's taste in servants.
he's just a weeaboo

>>162780592
mana transfer

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>>162776152

>Vlad
>Anything but top tier

>>162780240
Modern True Magics are miracles that did not exist in the Age of Gods. Clairvoyance EX in Solomon's profile mentions nothing about a Root connection, and neither Merlin nor Caster Gil are shown to have this skill. Connection to the Root IS a skill that exists in FGO, and none of the Grand Caster candidates have it. And neither Void Shiki nor Manaka really show any indication that they're capable of using True Magic.

And most importantly, Mahoyo shows us that each True Magic is an entire system completely unrelated to Magecraft, and Solomon's profile tells us that before Magecraft was invented people got their magic from the gods rather than connection to the Root.

>>162780353
>headcanon
Not him, but the reason the shitty modern magi want to reach the Root was to get one of those sorceries. Straight out CM, Fate/Zero and other sources.

Clairvoyance, at least, the EYES that see through all is a direct hookup line and connection to the Root. They don't need to do shit, they are born knowing this gift. At least that's the case for Merlin and Solomon (whether Gilgamesh is a peer or not, that's up to you).

Merlin is stated capable of them without backlash. Get over it. This is a fact in Babylon. He shits on Zelretch, Aoko and the other modern true magicians. I mean did you honestly think OCs donut steal were going to be a bigger deal than Solomon or Merlin? Get a fucking grip.

>>162780367

If Zelretch intervenes in any timeline then that timeline becomes 'true' instead of just a 'possibility'. Whatever that means.

>>162780325
>I dunno about Gil's taste in servants
He summoned Ibaraki so I can say it's downright shit

>>162780763
Nice meme reddit, should've summoned Scath amirite?

Does Quetzalcoatl have dragon trait?

>>162780842
Maybe?
Better than some ugly, coward piece of shit with a faggot fanbase.

>>162780691
>M-Muh miracles
Merlin can perform them. Fact.
Solomon can easily bring himself back from the dead, travel into parallel universes and travel back in time and the future. What did you think that is?

>and neither Merlin
Go read Garden of Avalon.

>>162780691

What? No. True Magics are the only miracles that haven't been reduced to lower ranked mysteries by the advancement of magecraft and human civilization.

Literally read F/SN, there was no difference between True Magic and magecraft in the Age of Gods because every magus with an ounce of talent was casting miracles on that caliber.

>>162780753
That means there's only one Zelretch across the entire multiverse and his true magic actually is just that whatever time he exists within is reality, with the others being just hypothetical scenarios that he can observe. He warps reality to match the world he's observing, he doesn't actually leave his own.

>>162780842
Shut up onifag, I'm glad we get to see your shitty waifu true colors in this order.

>>162780738
>the reason the shitty modern magi want to reach the Root was to get one of those sorceries
No.
> He shits on Zelretch, Aoko and the other modern true magicians.
Oh and, surprise surprise, you're a powerlevelfag.

>>162780763
Why would he summon an evil alignment servant and expect her to just follow his orders and save the city? He should have given her candy like Robin did.

>>162780691
At least in Manaka's case she demonstrates something similar to the Second Magic for the premise of Labyrinth. She's held back a lot by having an extreme scarcity of magic circuits.

>>162780359
Cover her. Saints aren't for lewd.

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Coming soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkcKaNqfykg

Downloadable Servants that can follow you around all day.
Who would you choose.
I want to see someone with a Kiyohime and if you lie to her she fucks your shit up at home/set alarms at random times in the night.

>>162780969
>Literally read F/SN, there was no difference between True Magic and magecraft in the Age of Gods because every magus with an ounce of talent was casting miracles on that caliber.
Pretty much.

People forget this fucking fact all the time. That's why NONE OF THE MODERN MAGICIANS will surpass the old ones. NONE. The Sorcery ones get closer to their power level but that's all.

>>162780642
>gilgamesh has ZERO catalysts
>GILGAMESH THE HERO WHO HAS EVERY ORIGINAL WEAPON OF ANY HERO THAT COMES AFTER HIM

C'mon now, c'mon.

>He asks Benkei is Gil their master, and if so, has he been providing for them this whole time?

>Benkei answers that Gil summoned seven servants after Merlin, but only four are still fighting. During the summoning process, their magical energy comes from Gil and acts as the chassis for their class, but afterwards, they maintain their magical energy independently via eating and sleeping and generating it like an ordinary being.

>Romani says that it's analogous to becoming the flesh, right? That would make sense, since it would be insane for a single master to maintain four servants.

>Merlin says under the normal rules of the Grail War, yes. Even he would die under the strain of summoning seven servants.

>But this is a different time, and this is Gil. He did say that he'll summon another seven servants as a boast.

>Though, even so, Gil hasn't recovered fully yet. That's why he's not fighting on the front lines.

Don't try to wank Gilgamesh, Gilfags. He summoned them but he doesn't have to maintain them. It was a different time, the mana was different and Gil is Gil, but while he doing that was impressive by modern standards, it wasn't actually that impressive.

>>162780642
He's got shit like Durandal and Gram in his treasury, so he should be able summon some stuff.

>>162780842
>bringing up a completely unrelated servant out of butthurt
>even if the poster displays zero bias towards said servant
>reddit namecalling, probably projecting
Gentlemen, butthurt Ibarakifags

>>162780978
>That means there's only one Zelretch

There isn't only one. That's just a retarded assumptions from Zelfaggot fans.

>>162781120
Remember that time Gil literally pulled Gae Bolg out of GoB and shot it at someone?

>>162781120

They're all prototypes, not actually the things those heroes wielded. They wouldn't work as catalysts at all because they have zero history with anyone other than Gilgamesh.

>>162781120
Why didn't Gil summon all 4 copies of himself

>>162776067
Medusa lily
-no

>>162780738
> Not him, but the reason the shitty modern magi want to reach the Root was to get one of those sorceries
That's wrong. The Einzberns want to regain the Third Magic by getting close to the Root, but that's only them. Others like Tokiomi or Touko just wanted to reach the original "swirl of the origin" and the enlightenment coming with it. Araya wanted to make a record of humankind, which is something even more alien.

> I mean did you honestly think OCs donut steal were going to be a bigger deal than Solomon or Merlin?
Christfag here. Solomon isn't a wizard bro.

>>162781014
> He should have given her candy like Robin did
Maybe.
Especially if said candy is filled with cyanide or something else that's lethal and could give her a painful death

>>162780969
Chaldea existence lowers the rank of Aoko's mystery, isn't it?

>>162781219
Yes, its one of the weapons coming out of his thing in the original CGs

>>162781251
Do you actually think four Gilgamesh in the same general vicinity would be able to accomplish anything other than trying to kill each other?

>>162781185
>>162781219

Read >>162781225

Why everyone hates Ibaraki here?

>>162781283
>Others like Tokiomi or Touko just wanted to reach the original "swirl of the origin" and the enlightenment coming with it.
Which was one of the Sorceries. Literally is in the fucking CM.

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>>162781054
>having Saber Alter follow me all day
>fucks off to eat junkfood

S-saber..

>>162781316
The recent MB manga has the crew Atlas doing exactly what Chaldea does across parallel worlds. People forget that we're projecting ourselves magically. We're not actually physically going to these places.

>>162781316
No, they arent even really time traveling. And normal time traveling is part of the second.

Aoko magic is more about playing with the time itself.

>>162780969
And yet Medea was said to be incapable of True Magic. She can be infinitely close, but she can never touch it.

>>162781401
>ugly piece of shit, ugly outfit, ugly tattoos, ugly feet
>shitty bratty attitute
>proved that she's a coward piece of shit
>shitties event in the existende of FGO
>mediocre gameplay wise
>shit fans
GEE I WONDER

>>162781472
Merlin did, in flesh and bo

>>162781437
No, it isn't.

The Five Sorceries are:
1. ???
2. Kaleidoscope
3. Heaven's Feel
4. ???
5. Blue

Akasha is not a Sorcery. Akasha is the Root from which everything is derived.

any doujin of fgo confirmed to c91?

>>162780920
>Merlin can perform them. Fact.
You say that but you haven't backed that claim up at all.

>>162780969
>>162781075
You need to read up on the modern True Magics a bit more. They did not exist in the Age of Gods.

In fact, we know for a fact that the First Magic could not have existed in the Age of Gods. Side Materials from the KnK movies tells us that Ether Lumps, made from the Fifth Imaginary Element, are connected to the First Magic, and the Fifth Imaginary Element DID NOT EXIST in the Age of Gods.

>>162781439
>Set herself up as your GPS
>Tells you to stop at every fast food restaurant

>>162781437

Reaching the Root goes beyond any mere Sorcery. Nasu explained that anyone who actually reaches the Root properly instead of just brushing against it like Zelretch and Aoko ascends to a higher state of existence and is unable to return to humanity. They also have their own problems to deal with once they ascend, though he never clarified what problems omnipotent supergods have to deal with.

>>162781568
Because he's from Avalon. Which I'm going to guess exist outside of time like the Throne.

>>162781559
>shitties event in the existende of FGO
Her event was good though

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Well, that's done.

>>162781364
Would be funny to watch no lie. That'd actually be a funny moment if Babylon is animated where he actually summons his multiple selfs and they all fight each other.

>>162776067
>Nito

Sounds like OOC shit to me

>>162780915
>>162780992
>>162781192
All me btw, I'm the above average intelligent Scathfags that doesn't shit on anyone except on your shitty favorites because they all are turds and much shittier than Scath.

>>162781568
/blood

fuck.

>>162781528
It was never worded like that. It has nothing to do with talent but because she doesn't think of it remarkable or anything. Shit like that was so common in her time that she doesn't perceive it as special as shitty modern magi do.

That's the thing. Those are parlor tricks to ages of gods tier people.

>>162781401
I only like her fire wings, like >>162781559 said, she is shit.

>>162781528

Medea's not that great of a magus by Age of Gods standards.

But she still utterly mocks every magus on the face of the Earth.

>>162781389
They have a connection just by name and origin, even if they didn't wield them. Catalysts don't always need to be direct.

>>162781647
>Her event was good though
The one where we fought the same shitty boss over and over and over and the only change was the hand's class?
Are you fucking stupid?
Ibarakifags have no taste

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>>162781668
Onee-chan is proud

>>162781626
It's also noted by Touko that Araya Souren, because of the peculiarity of his existence, might have actually left something behind if he was able to reach the Root - and that was something very, very dangerous for everyone.

Man I fucking love Babylon's arrange of The Golden King.

It took a really ominous, clearly villainous theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0tnpSZC6VY

And turned it into something still intimidating, but much more heroic sounding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q46Qh8H_Tog

And if you pay attention, the other new conversation theme is a festive arrange of The Golden King. I love neat musical tricks like that.

>>162781746
No one even mentioned Scat fuck off.

>>162781746
cool butthurt ibaraki shit
I don't like scatshit either

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>>162781746
Fuck onishitter, go jerk off that ugly beast feet.

>>162781858
He did >>162780842 and caused autists to spawn.

>>162781739
>Archer Gil, Caster Gil, and KoGil all summoned and want to fight
>KoGil immediately wins because he isn't a cocky moron

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>>162781620
S-saber stop plz..

>>162781750
>It was never worded like that. It has nothing to do with talent but because she doesn't think of it remarkable or anything.

What? no, shit is pretty clear in that she just cant do it.

>>162781759
Thats not the point though

If you dislike Scat, get the FUCK out of my thread.

>>162781619

>You need to read up on the modern True Magics a bit more. They did not exist in the Age of Gods.

Anon F/SN says it flat out, True Magic was commonplace in the Age of the Gods.

>Side Materials from the KnK movies tells us that Ether Lumps, made from the Fifth Imaginary Element, are connected to the First Magic, and the Fifth Imaginary Element DID NOT EXIST in the Age of Gods.

Everything the First Magic encompasses and is capable of doing, in other words, its miracles, were things that Age of Gods magi could perform with no real fuss or issue. If the wielder of any True Magic were to magically transport themselves back to the Age of Gods, they would be viewed as nothing special.

>>162781796
Name one event that didn't consist of doing the same thing over and over and over again.
At least her fight was a challenge rather than mindless grind.

>>162781750
Say what you will, but infinite mana and being able to pay someone's death to the far future seem like pretty impressive feats. Medea wasn't capable of these tricks. That's why she almost ran out of mana in Stay Night. She didn't have the ability to pull it from parallel works.

>>162781668
Friendcode?

Once again lorefags proving to be the real shitposters and cancer plaguing this thread.

I think all of you don't get why Medea or Circe wouldn't be capable of Modern Sorcery. It's simply because they won't be able to understand why that's a miracle. The only difference between magecraft and sorcery is that one is perceived as a mystery and a miracle while the other as capable to achieve by other means, but in their time all of that was equally the same shit because the world thrived in mystery.

That's all. Medea can do similar things to Modern Sorcery and is even better than Aoko or Zelretch, pretty much because Modern Sorcery isn't something impressive to someone of her era. It's not something believed to be impossible or miraculous.

>People talking about true magic but havent read mahoyo

Kek

>>162781750
>Shit like that was so common in her time that she doesn't perceive it as special as shitty modern magi do.

>>162782065
>Everything the First Magic encompasses and is capable of doing, in other words, its miracles, were things that Age of Gods magi could perform with no real fuss or issue

But that's wrong.

Fate/Side Materials:
> "Magic" is that which makes the impossible into the possible, for a given era. A "result" which can be realized with the application of time and effort is not magic.
>In the past, when civilization was young, most magi were also magicians, but currently only five remain.

In the distant past, there were things that were considered Magic that isn't now.

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>>162781668
Damn. You beat me by just a few minutes.

>>162782075
*push someone's

>>162782071
The nero festival had good challenge quests, where you fought different enemies. In the oni raid you were just fighting against the same enemy.

>>162781787

The connection to Gil is much stronger than the connection to any other hero. They are his treasures, not the swords and spears that the heroes far down the line wielded.

>>162782075
>>162782016
You're all forgetting all noble phantasms are miracles on higher level than the five sorceries.

All Servants are default better in mystery than the true magicians. Including Hassan.

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Who could have stopped this and how?