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>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>Old
>>162704558
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First for moon man
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>Try undead matches
>Magic spam
>Gargoyle thing spam
>Magic straightsword spam

Is this the new meta?
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>>162772069
>DeS
>shitty level up girl
DELETE THIS
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Cute!
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>>162772768
You should've seen this moon inhabitant that came later to FC.
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>>162772768
Moon man moon man can't you see
Ghrus and hollows need to hang from trees
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>>162772926
Dark hand can hardly be called a weapon

>>162773047
>BKS being the best shield in the game
So you guys are all looking at this fro a pvp point of view where you all use one single meta weapon if it's the best.

I'm talking about pve. I'd take 12 different types of weapons over one really good one any day.
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Reminder that the FC is still going
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>>162773024
>that lag chug at the end
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why is everyone a faggot except for me?
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>tfw you take away his will to live with one move
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>>162773597
Because people on the asperger's spectrum tend strongly towards homosexuality and this game's community is full of both.
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>>162773291

>porte-braises

What is that?
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>>162772868
What is gargoyle thing?
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>tfw parried in FC
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>tfw you enjoy doing many NG+ runs and hitting the obscene level cap in all souls games
What's wrong with me
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>>162774241
I assume host of embers, it appears with untrue dark ring.
>>162774245
gargoyle flame skill spear
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Post cool Souls game artwork
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>>162774818
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good shit famalam, I hope you enjoyed our fights as much as I did
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>>162772649
I'm banned. Is there a way to use my savegame in a family share account?
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>>162774683
What's bad about the skill if it is easily parried?
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>>162775329
>easily parried
Lol is this what all the gfs cunts say to themselves so they can sleep at night ?
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>>162774241
>>162774683
Yes that's what it means
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>>162775329
>easily parrying the spear with the biggest phantom range of all spears
yeah nice try
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>>162775329
>easily parried
6/10, minimal effort, several guaranteed replies
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>>162775443
>>162775492
CHILL LADS
I've never personally parried it because it's never been used against me
However I assume it's the same as every other charge skill and those are basically free parries
>>162775571
Holy shit is the phantom range that long?
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>>162774818
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>>162775674
We're talking here about R1 with huge phantom range you doofus.
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>>162774818
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>>162775674
>it's never been used against me
yeah I sure believe you -not
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>>162775492
>>162775674

Here you go on the phantom range thing.
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>>162775917
It was used on me today for about 10 seconds before the guy switched to his other weapon after missing a free-aimed Charge
>>162775967
Haha what the fuck that's worse than the Saif
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So when do SL1 runs get hard?

I just beat Abyss Watchers and nothing so far has given me any problems.
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>>162776091

It still suffers from the same problem all pokey weapons suffer from which is that they're shit against ganks (i.e. when you're outnumbered) where you really need something that hits along the horizontal axis, but in 1v1's or team battles (like invasions in invasion covenant areas) it's pretty crazy. Greatsword covers the horizontal axis problem well so dual wielding with spears is generally recommended imo, keeping the spear in your main hand for those nasty running R1's.
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>>162776161

Twin Princes and SoC.
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Patch when?
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So is the Watchdogs of Farron a thing you have to do when you're low SL? I'm at SL90 and not getting anything.
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>>162776306
Thanks for the tips lad but I'd never use something like that
Favorite spear will always be the qt Partizan
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>>162776416
at 120 I get invites every minute.
On PC
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Why do people get buttblasted when you use good weapons/builds, especially as an invader?
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>>162776357
what if....

here is a crazy idea...

no just listen here my dude...

what if you just stopped abusign a bug?

yeaaaaaahhhhhh.........
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FC IS OVER
THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO CAME
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>>162776484
bullshit 120 farron is fucking dead on pc
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>>162776625
thanks for hosting

Nana wins.
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>>162776625

Thanks Host!.
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>>162776625
thanks pancake host
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>>162776541

I do not follow.
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>>162776839
stop using bug for easy wins fag
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>>162776541
when your an invader, there is no mercy.
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>>162776752
Of corse she does. Muscle waifu is the best.
I'm going to kiss her abs!
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>>162776980
that was an arena fight though
might as well just use infinite hp then
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>tfw get summoned for co-op and get rekt
i had kalameet memorized trying to get that asshole's tail. embarrassing.
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Anyone want to watch an excellent PvE'r do some DaS PvP, with me?
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>>162776541
>if you close your eyes and pretend real hard, the glitch doesn't exist anymore
Genius. Why do devs even patch games at all? We should just ignore any glitches.
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>>162777117

Duel charms are a thing. Might as well compare resins or DMB to infinite HP then.

How about not being a faggot and gitting gud.
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>>162775856
god that thing is giant, here, i fixed it
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>>162777367
>From
>Actually doing something to fix game
lmao.
Just stop abusing the bug and whining about it.
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>>162776912

but Astora UGS' rolling attack was a bug as well, but that was ok?

After rapier's attack speed was nerfed it was still fast in the off-hand (which was a bug), but that was also ok?

Onislayer's 2mx2m hitbox was a bug, but that was ok as well?
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>>162777417
Duel charms don't remove the bloodlust buff

Try again faggot
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>>162777348

The boss AI changes a bit if there are summons, since it keeps switching between targets. I find that's the reason I sometimes die in co-op when I would never die when doing the boss solo.
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>>162777417
Duel charm doesn't work against against bloodlust WA buff, bitch

I will get gud when you stop abusing bugs for free frags
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>>162777481
No.

No.

No.
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>>162777521
yeah, good point. that certainly didn't help things either. i'm new to Souls and just started co-op trying to lower the requirements to be a sunbro. but kalameet i think i have down better than any boss.
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>>162777481

Not that guy but personally I feel like anything that is actually in the game (i.e. not CE or some shit) is fair game.

I feel like you should do invasions though. I mean, and this is just me here, but duels get pretty damn boring when you use the most OP shit. If you want to push the game to it's limits and see how demigod-esque you can become, do invasions where you are taking on bullshit like 1v4's with possible seed and resummons, where anything goes and in fact you need the most OP shit you can get your hands on to even stand a chance against the most bullshit of the "pro" gank squads.
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>>162777771
Is running firestorm okay?
Was binoboosting okay?
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>>162777843

idk what those are or how that applies to what I said, I assume they're something in the previous games? As long as they're in the game naturally I don't have a problem with it, and if at some point something gets patched out then you adapt to that as well. As long as it's not literal cheating like CE.
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>>162777771
What will you do if you fight a pro gank squad abusing the glitch?
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>>162777976
I will kill their boss :^)
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>>162777735

That's not what the community thought my man.

>>162777771

Already done that familie, I have about 400 hours of invading in this game. Both duels and invading have stopped giving satisfaction.
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>>162778070
the community is garbage my man
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>>162777843

Pretty much all offensive glitches are bad. I can't think of a single one that's good for the game, except some weapon art skips, but some of those are just too good.
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>>162777973
This is binoboosting (patched now)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAe442j4eB8

This is running firestorm (shit quality though)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw6rzROYqrg

Are these okay? You can do, to this day, running firestorm on Demon's. Don't go defending bug and glitch abuse, you're defending anyone killing you if they suddently decide they feel like it.
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>>162777976

Run away into mobs probably. I mean I usually don't bother with pro gank squads anyways, the people who truly abuse the system to the max. Generally speaking though I don't have a problem with it, all the bloodlust glitch means is they do more damage for 45 seconds, doesn't really matter if they don't hit you or you parry them for example. Doesn't last forever and they still need the space and time to do it, and if they're waiting for combat to start to max out their time with it then it's pretty obvious what they're doing.

The nice thing about invasions which for some reason doesn't exist for arena is you can just crystal out if things ever get too bullshit. When you invade at SL60 and below though things almost never get too bullshit which is why it's fun compared to levels higher than that. In general I'll deal with a seed or a gank but not both as a quick and easy rule to live by.
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>>162778156

That's true, but irrelevant my man.
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>>162778070
>Both duels and invading have stopped giving satisfaction.

Then play something else, I still love invasions after roughly the same amount of time. If you're not having fun/getting satisfaction from the game then you're wasting your time, anon. Remember that.
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>>162778478

I have already stopped. These are all WebMs I made just to test it out.
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>>162778285

Lol wtf?

Okay fair enough, I don't think anything in DaS3 is anywhere near this level but yeah if the bug is literally gamebreaking where it might as well be cheating then sure it's not okay.

Bloodlust glitch is not fucking instant death shit though.
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>>162778823
>Bloodlust glitch is not fucking instant death shit though.
>thread literally being dumped with webms of 100% health true combos thanks to Bloodlust glitch
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>>162777481

Abusing glitches is not ok and you're a fucking flamming homosexual for using them, kill yourself you inbreed piece of shit
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>>162778823
It's still a 30% AR boost, that's far above what you can get on say, blessed weapon.
It's not intended and the game not planned around it.
There are dozens of one hit kill combos with it and I could make one of bloodlust carthus killing people non stop.

I doesn't add or make the game any better and two people using it against it other would be enough to prove how bad of an idea it is.

Here's a few more cool glitches newfag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoHW3XWAY7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMz8lB_AvP0
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Just started a cleric and I wonder, what's a good fun weapon I can use? Are maces trash?
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>>162779670
Cuck who didn't play BB here, what's wrong with the Arcane Rifle Spear exactly? The guy shoots the other guy like 6 times for only 200 damage a pop, why doesn't the victim just git gud and dodge better? What's the glitch?
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>>162779725

What game?
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>>162779725
The basic mace is great if thats your kind of thing
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>>162779725
The mace is one of the most satisfying weapons in any souls game and is great to have around to completely fuck up anything vulnerable to strike damage.
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>>162779979
DaS3, I forgot to clarify.
>>162780001
>>162780035
So is it safe to upgrade it normally? Or should I wait for another mace?
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Now that its been a while, is it safe to use ReShade/ENB/SweetFX with Scholar of the First Sin? Id enjoy not being softbanned SotFS is looking pretty bad
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>>162779234

I literally want this shit to get patched, fucklord, that's not the point. I'm pointing out how contradictory the community is with these kinds of things, since other glitches and bugs were condoned.
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>>162780193
>DaS3, I forgot to clarify.

Maces for PvE are basically weaker straight swords. For PvP they're ok because the two handed attacks have HA if you have enough poise.
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>>162779953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI3aRB5LADk

there is are whole lot wrong with it.
seems like damage increases the closer you are to the blast too.
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>>162779953
It's a poor video explaining it, but it has a shotgun move.
If you used arcane gems, their boost was applied to each individual bullet.
See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI3aRB5LADk

I didn't want to link a shitty youtuber
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>>162779953
>>162780424
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What do I change about myself if I want to be more attractive to moon living edgelords?
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>>162780605
Use a katana and talk like an ESL
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>>162781175
what's an ESL
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Can someone help me out on Orphan of Kos?
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>>162781313
We can practice on nameless king if you want.
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>>162781420
But NK is easy compared to Orphan ;_;
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>>162781256
English as Second Language.
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>>162772649
Happy Holidays, boys.
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I like being in the rat covenant. Helo rato.
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>>162781498
I don't know both are so easy to me that they become the same tier.

joke I beat orphan once and never did him again
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>>162781582
>almost 2017
>skype
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>>162781582
Same for you, generaltso14
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>>162781572
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>>162781865
ahhh,i forgot that one, feck. welp, enjoy the pic while i make a new skype account
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>>162782043
That won't be necessary friend.
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>>162781582
heh, seeing skype gives me memories
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>>162782229
brings me bad memories
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>>162782043
>>162782229
>>162781582
skype ggives me conniptions
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>>162782043
Already hacked you and killed your boss.
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>>162781582
>no pcfcbf(best friend)s to make skype jokes with
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Which is the better DaS1 weapon, the regular halberd or the gargoyle halberd?
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>>162782826

Regular, thrust damage.
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>>162782616
Already banned you
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>>162782620
>(best friends)
o-oh... okay anon, I guess we can just be friends.
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>Fighting Soul of Cinder
>He starts an attack animation
>I roll behind him
>He spins 180 on the spot mid animation and hits me anyway
Why the fuck does every enemy in this game have such absurd tracking that they can literally spin over 200 degrees on the spot while they're mid animation?
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>>162783067
>over 200 degrees
>180
hmm...
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>>162783067
You rolled too early
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>>162783161
Must have been really hot huh
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>>162783067
Because you are panic rolling bitch boy
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>>162783185
It shouldn't matter. Tracking shouldn't be so good that using iframes is the only way to avoid the damage
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>>162783161
reddit frog posters are dumb, nothing new here.
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>>162783001
that's what the bf stands for, right
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>>162783697
r-right haha totally yeah anon :)
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>>162783697
yes anon

*rests hand on your thigh*
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>>162781572

>he has English as his second language
>not 3rd or 4th

plebs
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Anyone know how active the player base is in the 360 version of Dark Souls?
I've never played the DLC and the last time I played DaS on PS3, it didn't feel very active.
Before you tell me to just play the PC version instead, take a rook at my specs.
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>>162783307
I shouldn't have to time my rolls. Every roll should be fine, even if I mistime it.
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>>162783824
nice grip best buddy
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>>162783824
hey back off of my BF! He's my best friend
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>Go into NG+ to farm levels 100-120 easier
>Suddenly don't feel like going through PvE again and launch up Bloodborne
I've made a mistake
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>>162784572
I will steal him from you and deliver him back he will be changed not the same person you won't recognize him.
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>>162784650
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>>162780519
>>162780491
>>162780424
Didn't this get patched out?
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What's the best thing about dark souls, /dsg/?
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>>162786135
1. defeating bosses solo
2. helping someone so good he drops you an item
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>>162785694
It did.
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>>162786135
PvP duels
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>>162786135

Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.
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>>162784081
Thats how it worked in 1 and everyone agrees it was the best Souls game by a mile. Get fucked
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>>162786135
The atmosphere that most of the games are able to evoke.
Despite being riddled with flaws (like every game in this series), Demon's/Dark Souls and Bloodborne were extremely effective in that regard.
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>>162786135
The first playthrough.
>never again
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>>162787034
This.
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>>162786135
parrying someone, taunting them, then parrying them again
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>>162787847
I love when this happens to me.
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>>162786751
>deep dagger
What is this?
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>>162788401

Ripostes ignore flat defense, so it's p. gud.
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>>162788554
>not even instant kill
Is it? I mean, if you have a stronger weapon like ultras would be better? Are you just using it because it's a portable riposte tool?
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>>162787034
>Dark Souls is like drinking

I knew there was a familiar tinge.
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>>162783067
>thinks soul of cinder is bad
I'm guessing you never played Orphan enough to flawlessly kill him. He stops mid attack to perform other attacks and they're not slow as shit like soul of cinder.
So in conclusion, git gud faggot
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My favorite part of Berserk was when Guts used his magic to aid in his fight against Captain Falcon.
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>>162789147
You can backstab chain Orphan.
SoC can parry you in his vulnerable state
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Somebody last thread suggested that, in the rat covenant, you should use acid surge to destroy equipment to troll.

Thanks senpai.
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>>162789331
Yes if your timing and luck is absolutely absurd
Not like that parry will kill you
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Ds2 failed because it lacked good waifus
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>>162789650
I've literally only ever paid attention to The Doll in Bloodborne and I still ended up killing her at one point
Firekeepers are fucking trash
Maiden is neutral
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>>162789469
I'm pretty sure you can get Orphan caught in an AI loop where he can be easily backstabbed until death.
>>162789331
Pretty sure he can only do that if he's in curved sword form.
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>>162789247
>fight a guts
>is never using a fucking UGS

what is the appeal of playing a guts character and spamming sorceries
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>>162788741

This is SL35 +4 so yes, from my testing it's basically the most damage you can reasonably get. Even better than say a profaned GS on a 27/20 build for example. And this requires 0 stat investment to boot.

Also note that ripostes use your 1 handed AR so they don't benefit from say, 2H'd str weapons with the 1.5x str modifier.

It's better than a raw mail breaker because you're just dealing with damage absorption, so if you say average physical damage absorption is 15% and dark (which is generally the weakest since it only scales with INT) is like 5%, with hornet ring you're dealing with:

Raw mail breaker +4: ((142 - (142 * .15)) * 1.4) * 3 = 506.94 damage.
Deep dagger +4: ([((87 - (87 * .15)) + ((87 - (87 * .05))] * 1.4) * 3 = 657.72 damage

Which is basically the best you can reasonably get at this level, and for little weight and no stat investment to boot. Or in simpler terms if you want to skip the math: deep dagger is effectively dealing with 156.6 AR before getting the 140 crit and x3 hornet crit multipliers, and raw mail breaker is effectively at 120.7 AR if we assume 15% damage absorption and 5% dark absorption. Or in other words, 87 physical 87 dark is better than 142 physical when used for ripostes that ignore flat defense stats.
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In Dark Souls 2, is there something I have to do to get Twiigy Sheis summon sign to appear? I've freed all of the Loyce Knights. The section with all the charred knights is just too annoying for me.
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>>162788741
>>162790027

Oh also you have to remember that daggers get a 140 crit modifier that ultras don't have. Ultras may have potentially higher damage in total but only have a 100 crit modifier, i.e. you multiply their damage after damage absorption by 1 whereas with daggers you multiply it by 1.4 on certain ones (greatknife is like 1.15 i believe).
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>>162789814
It's for uninspired people who slap a name of a badass they know just because. Same for every """cosplay""" name but people who get the reference would and should be appalled when it doesn't serve as anything but a placeholder.
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>>162784081
>I shouldn't have to time my rolls.
You entitled fuck, you already got your infinite iframe roll spam game. Fucking use it.
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>>162784081
>Every roll should be fine, even if I mistime it.
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>>162790071
If you freed all the loyce knights then you shouldn't need any more assistance. If anything, at least one loyce knight would help you with BIK once all the others have sealed the gates of hell with ice waifu magicks.
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>>162791893
I figured it out. Can't summon while your own sign is down.

I've gotten to the point where I can get through the charred knights pretty easy and can get the king to half health but he can almost one hit me.

Really just the sheer amount of time it takes to kill the charred knights is so aggravating. At least with other bosses you can retry pretty quickly.

I'm at 2.8 sm so I can't get any other summons.
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Doing a Mage/Hex run in DS2 and looking to get the ritual band from NG+ Najka. If I ascetic the Shaded Ruins bonfire, do I make the Abyss Chasm portion there tougher too?
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>>162794335
I think the Chasms are only affected by ascetics used at the bonfire near the Drangleic Castle portal, but don't quote me on that.
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>>162794935
Using the ascetic at Drangleic castle makes Darklurker harder, but the other chasms are all tied to the bonfires near them iirc
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Is lords of the fallen ok? combat looks slow? but the ballerina knight looks cool.
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>>162795634
>it's lords of the fallen ok?
no
>combat looks slow?
an understatement, if ds2 feels like molasses then lords of the fallen is crusty old cum
>but the ballerina knight looks cool
wat
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PC FC when? Need someone who dares challenge my immense power.
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>>162795794
first boss final phase has him just doing long ass pirouettes.
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>>162796027
I admire your courage.
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>>162795538
>>162794935
So let's say I already lit one of those sconces required to "clear" one of the Chasms, I assume ascetic-ing that bonfire will reset it.
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>>162796214
I know it will respawn the enemies but I honestly don't remember what it does to the sconce
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what could I put as a name that would let my summons know I am going to heal them as a cleric?
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>>162796786
submissive nerd
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>>162796874
nope
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>>162796786
see >>162796874
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>>162797356
heck no
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>>162796786
iHealU4cummies
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>>162796786
"Dedicated Healer"
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guys, there is something very wrong with the animations in oolacile, the characters are skipping, it's really annoying, anyone have any idea what can be happening? i'm with like 60 fps, its not lag, and the other areas are normal.
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>>162798217
I dont think youre supposed to transfer bloodborne files into dark souls 1
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what are the chances of getting something similar to chalice dungeons in dlc2
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Is there any word on when the Second DLC for DS3 is coming out?

Should I expect it before April 2017?
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>>162798217
>60fps
That's why, don't unlock it.
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>>162798567
Why the fuck would you want that lazy trash?
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>>162798649
Like i said, similar, I'd like to be able to fight bosses again without going through ng++++

I hate suffering through shitty cancer areas
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>>162798748
>I hate suffering through shitty cancer areas

Yeah cancerous copy-pasted garbage areas in chalice dungeons sure are much better.

If you want to fight bosses again without going to another NG then it's better they bring back bonfire ascetic than fucking chalice dungeons.
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>>162798581
Typically they're about 6 months apart, so April seems likely.
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>>162798864
I'd rather they bring back bonfire ascetic but I vaguely remember them saying they wouldn't bring them back
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>>162799016
I hope they're working on it . inb4 "we did the first dlc lets take it easy now"
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>>162799192
They probably started development on both DLCs well before the full game as released. Game development takes a while, anon.
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>>162798595
i disabled it with a hotkey, and nothing changed.
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>>162799267
I am VERY angery.
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>>162796214
it won't, once the sconce is lit and the place is clear you're good
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>>162786135
Atmosphere.
Part good fashion, partly the feeling of being a part of a larger, interconnected world.
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>>162798581
i like how players can parry pontiff when his sword goes over their fucking head and they dont actually come anywhere close to contacting his sword.
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>>162799887
That was a decoy swing. If you look carefully he's charging the player character at 50 miles per hour with a purple sword pointed at his neck.
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>>162799887
wtf is happening on this pic?
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>>162800672
>pillar of the community
>can't use winspears or comprehend using twindags because aggressive play is something he can't even begin to think about
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>>162800912
didn't mean to link post
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>>162800912
>pillar of the community
>posts a literally who guy that i never heard about
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>>162800912
Scott can't be a pillar of the community because he still plays DaS3. A prerequisite to being a pillar is to not play souls games anymore (unless a new DLC hits, then we're DLC HYPE :twitchemote:).
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>tfw the second DLC is also shit
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Let's say I want a UGS with a good moveset and pure physical damage. What are my options here? I could just wiki it but that doesn't really tell you much about movesets.
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>>162802804
Which game
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>>162802914
Das3, sorry.
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>>162773212
6500000 high wall hosts would disagree
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it's always amused me how weapons can change size. I think they didn't think we'd notice.
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>>162803913
you mean without ce? how?
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>>162804029
Without CE, yes. They change size to fit better on your back versus in your hands. This has always been a thing in souls games, way back from DeS.
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Crystal staff or Court staff?
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>>162802934
For a vertical moveset, the burger king great sword is king. Even has a OHKO that hopefully won't be patched ever (but it will).

For horizontal ones, your best bet would probably be Profaned, since you said you were looking for pure physical damage. WA does very significant damage, adds bonus fire damage for a few moments and works extremely well with the WA skip glitch if you're into that.
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>>162804147
I have actually been using Profaned and it's so so. It's flashy as hell but I don't like its moveset. As for BKGS, I actually have never liked the BK line of weapons, but DaS3 changes a lot of things. I played around with Greatsword and loved its normal moveset (not a fan of its WA though, although it could prove useful for YOLOing). What do you think?
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frigid outskirts why ;_;
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>>162804147
For reference, my favorite UGS is Meat Cleaver in DeS. Its moveset is perfection, wide swings on R1, and overheads on R2. Profaned is like that but a thrust, and I actually do make use of the overhead stuff quite a bit in some fuckery, so I don't really like it. Is there a weapon with that kind of moveset in DaS3? Greatsword seems to be closest of the ones I have on me to test.
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>>162804450
what is this image attempting to convey?
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>>162804450
>Woah kid you only have like 10 int
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Is there anything fun to do with CE? I don't wanna do boring shit like make a curse weapon. Anything like pulling the boss out of the fog gate?
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In DaS3 are greatswords outclassed by ultragreatswords?
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>>162805428
So no? In many of the games they generally were, with some exceptions. So they're on par finally?
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>>162805885
greatswords are some of the best weapons, ugs are some of the worst
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>>162806061
Are we talking strictly in a PVP sense here?
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>>162806114
In both pve and pvp in all souls games, you will probably get better results out of a greatsword than an ultra greatsword
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>>162806114
yeah, who cares about pve balance? ugs are kinda better in pve compared to pvp, not greatswords because ai is dumb and walks into swing
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>>162804450

>Nigga how'm I gonna smith moonlight?
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Man these games suck. Do you think they will ever make one with active hit detection, no invincibility frames, and non-glacial combat?
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>>162807073
No because those are core mechanics that make souls, souls

go play for honor or something faggot
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I wanna fuck the jailer and evangelist!
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>ask invader to leave by using collapse
>he does

Welp.
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>>162806895
>humanforce
Kek
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>>162807190
>readily admitting the souls games are shit
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son of a bitch started taking a nap on me!
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>>162804103
>weapons change size to fit on back
>every single UGS that isn't astora or zwei clips into the ground
>they couldn't even figure out how to raise them higher on your back
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>>162805885
>In many of the games they generally were
There's not a single souls game where UGS were better than GS. Not even DeS.
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>>162807406
>I want a RTS game without strategy
>but strategy is the whole point
>lmao your game sucks

Why are you even in this thread?
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This poor bastard
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>>162807742

10 /DSG/ points to anyone who knows why this happens.
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>>162808096

Resting in Nito's coffin, and getting the special riposte animation
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>>162807742
it's a very fucking rare glitch i only saw once or maybe twice in 1500 hours of random invasions
basically at exactly this point host for some insane reason sometimes enters the nito coffin animation allowing you to do a coffin stab
not sure if this happens in his game, most likely you're simply backstabbing him on his own screen
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>>162808151

Very good.
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>>162807850
How come that's mainly all I saw in DeS PVP then?
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>>162808273

It happens in that spot because Quelana is there. This is important, there's a de-aggro zone around Quelana, similar to what is around the coffin. I bet From just copy & pasted code here.
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>>162808393
same reason why you see overhyped but in reality mediocre weapons used by every brainless retard who spent 2 minutes googling the "OP" weapon
like ice rapier in 2 or dark sword in 3
thank gods that you didn't see blueblood or northern regalia
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>>162808587
I did see a lot of BBS, but I don't remember having particular troubles with it. My memory is honestly foggy, that was so many years ago.
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Anyone on PS4 wanna roll nameless king with me?
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Is the Great Lance so bad? I wanted to make a cliché gallant knight build but apparantly it's crappy, I don't intend to do any pvp for this character. Is it viable to use it in pve?
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>>162808975
It's not that much more damaging and it's really slow. Spears already have problems hitting enemies due to lack of hyper armor, so speed is pretty important, but it's nothing you can't deal with, I'm sure. Do it, faggot.
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>>162808975
>Is it viable to use it in pve?

Pretty much anything is when upgraded. Except whips.
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>>162809036
i beg to fucking differ, witch locks is cool as fuck in pve because it can murder an entire horde of enemies at once with charged r2
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>>162808975
Just Leo Ring turtle with it

It managed to fuck me over last night when I was trying to anti-turtle with a DMB saint bident
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How is dragon body and torso in terms of defense and weight? Is it viable just to get SOME armor if your equip weight is too heavy at the moment?
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>>162809617
dragon torso in ds3 works like in ds1 aka leaving you effectively naked
the only way to use it is on greatshield turtles where you need a lot of free weight for your shield but natural defence barely matters as your shield is going to soak up all damage
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>>162809082
There are a lot of weapons that look cool when you take out a bunch of weak mobs with it, but we're talking actually viable.

As in, usable in pretty much every situation in the PvE, including bosses. But again, if you git gud enough you can complete the game with any weapon whatsoever.
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>>162809685
So I'm taking a huge amount of damage by using it? I can't even equip rags at the moment, which is why I ask.
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>>162809685
Also incidentally, I am using a greatshield. I just didn't expect swordspear to be so heavy.
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>das3 dragonform defences

Anyone tried this in DaS3? It's basically tumblebuffing but with Dragon.
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>>162810018
this rendered dragon stone unusable though
and it was the only reason to ever use dragon form
doubt it works in 3
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>>162810085

You could still use the head! But yeah I agree.
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>>162810120
So you could with just the headstone. Unless you wanted to use the claws this bad
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>>162794335
>the only two cool and memorable characters from das2

wish there was more lore on them
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>SL 96 pyromancer.
Every fucking invasion is bullshit or cancer. What the fuck is wrong with people and why the fuck is this level threshold total shit?
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>>162810605
You went too high, SL40-60 is where the 'good' invasions happen

Or try Archdragon Peak, somehow even at SL120/125 invasions are pretty decent there
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>>162810605
>having problems with pyromancer during invasions
>the build that can effectively rape people during invasions all the way to SL130
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>>162810778
For low level pyromancer PvP fuckery, at what point (SL) do you actually start allocating stats into Int and Fth?
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So how would you realistically buff currently underpowered for pvp weapon types?
>ultra weapons should have lingering hitboxes making it harder to just roll through them and decreased stamina consumption to be in the line with general stamina/damage growth between other weapon types
>whips need to be much faster on all attacks except WA
>all shortbows need to have faster stationary shoot speed in line with their rolling and running attacks, all longbows need to still have access to rolling and running attacks, bow damage needs to be increased across the board
>reapers need to deal more HA damage, especially Friede's Scythe
>axes need general AR boost to be in line with millwood battleaxe, maybe give warcry'd 2HR1s a little HA, only enough for trading against longswords and rapiers
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>>162811067
>whips need to be much faster
Have you seen those rolling R1's?
regular R1 could be little bit faster though
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>>162810760
I may try that thanks Anon.
>>162810778
Define rape getting ganked with 3+ fuckwits and seed of giants is not what I call raping at all. SKill or whatever doesn't really go into account when you got three idiots pressing t1 to win and thanks to 10+ weapons they usually do. I have no str/dex so I'm stuck with astora's straight or Thrall's axe and they got no fucking hyperarmor and LEL NO POISE still drops the quality of this fucking game. I'm being totally fucked over man, I absolutely hate it.
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>>162810882
how "low level" are we talking about?
for example settlement pyromancer is just a viggouged pyromancer with raw ASS and chaos orb with zero actual stat investment into caster stats but both pyromancer damage boosters
i'd say sl40-50 is the mark when you start tossing points into int/fai, provided you already have 27vig
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>>162811183
I wish I could use that attack correctly I either get staggered from phantom hitboxes or ganked.
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>>162811143
if you see a seed of giants you just black crystal out
that's the general rule for ds2 and 3 invasions
a simple 3 fuckwits is piss easy with pyro because you can apply continuous strong ranged pressure on them while they are dealing with enemies, majority of phantoms even at 130 can't fucking survive two vestiges cast
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I'm getting no fucking invasions in Nameless king area the first two bonfires and Archives.
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>>162811401
that's strange because they are always active
invaded there non-stop a week ago
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>>162811454
>Demon's Souls.webm
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What do you guys do while you wait to be summoned/invade?
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>>162811630
fap, shitpost or both
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>>162811630
I watch shit anime or tokusatsu.
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>>162811454
>Uses Giant's seed.
>Havel got summoned by the snek priest.
>It turns against him completely and the faggoty blue who appeared to gank me.
It was pretty good.
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>>162811728

>Tfw you nut as the invasion sound effect plays
Never again.
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>>162811630
Usually just kill mobs for souls
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I know Arena is cancer but making a regen build to punish people who only play reactively.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/126817

Pop blessed weap on Gott.
Not sure whether to go with canvas or Yorksha
First Miracle build ever so no clue if there's better talismans/chimes for these current stats.
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>>162811630
Browse /dsg/
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Does the item swapper have any problems with spells?
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What the fuck?
Fighting this idiot and I go for basic attacks I don't hit, I use chaos bed Vestige I essentially traded a hit and I miss?
What the hell happened?
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>>162811943
PC?
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>>162811761
popping a seed in the archdragon peak is one of the worst ideas possible because i can just aggro all enemies and lead them straight to the host
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>>162780314
Whats the glitch?
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>>162812217
Yes. It's happened twice now.
>>162812239
This game rewards retards thanks to phantom hitboxes. It's total bullshit, I just fought some idiot who was able to hit me from a roll or two away each time and spammed running r1's. What the fuck man
>>
Nth for 'our girl' Kod-Ging Fuciler
>>
How do you fix the memory leak issue on PC? I increased my virtual memory space to 12GB and it still keeps freezing
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>>162812575
who?
>not memeing, actually have no fucking clue
>rhetorical, I don't want to know.
>fuck off
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Maximum blur.
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>>162812689
download more ram
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>>162812762
I didn't have any problems when I was playing the game when it launched, but now I started a new game and it keeps constantly freezing
>>
How does Family Sharing work? Would I be able to use CC on a trash account and not be soft-banned on my main one?
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>>162812730
it's a trip faggot who can die in a hole for all I care.
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>>162812813
Are your video drivers up to date?

What GPU do you have?
>>
I lowered my graphics settings on DS2 to try and get it to run a little smoother (was fine before but sometimes struggled in certain areas) and now it's framerate is shit (~25 fps). I fucked up. I don't even remember what my original settings were.

Are there any graphics settings in DS2 that would worsen gameplay by lowering their performance?
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>>162813189
try not playing DaS2 in general. That's how you fix the problem.
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>>162812919
I got the new gtx 1050, during launch I had 760
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>>162812760

Dragonsis!
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>>162813429
How could you tell that it was a she?
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>>162813189
Cant think of anything of the top of my head
Have you tried going back to default settings and work your way back from there?
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>>162813487

You can tell from the horns.
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>>162813571
Oh I see. Neato.
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>>162813325
>I DON'T LIKE A GAME SO YOU SHOULDN'T EITHER, MY OPINION MATTERS

go get laid
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>>162812239
>point down
Yeah, I ban him, I ban him
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>>162813550
The only thing I can imagine is that when I changed the in-game settings it fucked up something with catalyst control center, but it's been so long since I messed with graphics I don't remember what the combo I got was.

Auto-detect off, low settings: Runs fine indoors, but chugs when someone dies and there are soul/fire effects
Auto-detect on, low settings: runs perfect when someone dies, but chugs when I go outside into the lava and fire.

I think it has something to do with the flame / souls effects. Everything else (textures, motion blur) doesn't seem to effect performance. What would I use to turn those down?
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>>162813881
Oh yeah, swinging and crashing pots just tanks framerate but the walking and everything else is smooth. It definitely has something to do with how its rendering souls/water/lava/fire that I fucked up.
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Waiting to be summoned.
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>>162812239
So this is what running katana stabs look like from the other side.
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Does anyone have a Giant dad save they could share?
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>>162814547
>nearly 2017
>doing giant dad
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>>162814761
POWER UP THE BASS CANON! lol x)
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>>162813571
DELETE THIS
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>>162814761
i want to relive the glory days dont hate on me m8
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>>162814939
>i want to relive the glory days
>implying you were there
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>>162814939
Then make your own save
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>>162800912

How do you use twinspears or daggers then?
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>>162814939
>giant dad
>glory days
>>
>Yfw when a few years from now OnlyAfro posts a selfie holding his baby in his arms wearing a giantdad cosplay and you feel older and more useless than ever before
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>>162815046
>implying you were there
i was lost all my shit when my HD got corrupted or i wouldn't be asking
>>162815068
>>162815147
I forgot that most of you in here were a bunch of try hard cunts :^)
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>>162815319
But he's a fag, ain't he?
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>>162815378
>people still think that's him
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>>162815337
>i was lost all my shit when my HD got corrupted
>including my memories of where to get save files and mules
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>>162815378
OnlyAfro is a peruvian.
Google what an average peruvian looks like and stop posting this image.
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>>162815136
>every single part of the moveset save for L1s is identical to a spear
>play it like the short spear with those moves, charge for the same reason you'd on a normal spear
>you don't have an offhand so be more careful not letting people close
>roll L1 is like pre nerf gotthard's, abuse it since it outspeeds most stuff
>running L1 is easy to parry but hits thrice so it's good for catching panic rolls
>L1s start with a swipe so use them for people moving to avoid pokes but near you

Dunno about daggers
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>>162815505
also baiting with two r1 then the double hand long range l1 poke punishes hard.
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>>162815425
>including my memories of where to get save files and mules
im lazy just wanted to see if anyone had one you fags were blasting them in here when le reddit was having the DaS revival thing
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>>162815319
The pic of Chad Warden holding his kid already did that to me
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>>162815337
You can find saves in a few minutes to make your own and you can even create one from scratch with cheats
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>>162815565
>too lazy to search 5 minutes online to bully some nerds in the parish
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>>162815565
>im lazy
too lazy for Google anon?
is this for real?
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>>162815709
>>162815716
When im at work mobile posting
Yes :c
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>>162815505
>>162815556

What levels is it viable at? Is it viable in invasions at all? Would raw infusion at SL35 +4 be reasonably okay or no?

>you don't have an offhand so be more careful not letting people close

The first L1 actually looks pretty reasonable for dealing with that sort of thing to be fair.
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>>162815990
First L1 is slow though, but longest attack. It's good for follow up pokes
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>bosses in ds2 are so slow you can casually walk behind them and do a greatsword's 2hr2 with them being unable to do shit about it
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>>162815990
The first L1 is good if they roll into you, but very slow if they just walk with a sword.
Worse, it's a slash, so you lose trades.
Against those, try baiting into roll L1.
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Are invaders usually this nice? Like I've been using curl and collapse to show that I'm not interested in fighting them, and they have been like "yo that's cool" and bsc'd.
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>Vendrick paid someone to design this castle
>fuckhuge hole right near the throne room
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>>162815969
>im at work
>putting this much planning into killing noobs in a game where all the noobs will be dead
holy shit dude just make a SL 30ish AGS Farronfaggot in DS3 if you actually want to fight people
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>>162816321
im doing it meme on a twitch streamer whos a friend of mine he said he wouldnt do any PvP in his 1st run so im gonna try gravelording him
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>>162816318
IRL castles were like that, with lots of open spaces where the wind and elements could get in. They weren't comfy places to live. Being practical with the building materials was more important.

That sunroof was likely made so that during the day, the spot on the ground would be illuminated by a big circle of light as people awaited an audience with the king.
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Could someone drop me a great lance along with the lothric knight chestpiece? platform is pc, bonfire is lothric and pass is dsg
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>>162816506
i guess fucking TENTS were too advanced for them
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>>162816572
Literally
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>>162816478
>first run
>gravelording
kill urself my man
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>>162816567

>bonfire is lothric
>asking for a great lance
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>>162816506
Why didn't they just make the roof a convertible? fucking idiots
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>>162816478
gravelording doesn't do dick in NG and unless you're on PC with the right mods the chances of you even connecting with your friend are slim
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>>162816869
>first run
nice joke shitter
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>>162816893
i meant lothric high wall bonfire my bad
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>>162816478
You got to be ng+ for phantoms to appear. He will find the sign at best
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>>162816935
>>162816967
then whats a good way of forcing myself into his game?
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>>162816318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4rdTbomG5Y

just like in real life
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>>162817039
If he stays hollow the entire time, there's nothing you can do. He does have to go human to kindle bonfires, but if he does that he'll probably just suicide immediately.
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>>162817039
If he doesn't go human, there is literally nothing except writing funny messages. Just don't help him and when he gets to the gargs, tell him he can summon help, even you, for the boss if he goes human.
But you don't sound like you were here
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>>162816567
Do you still need it?
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>>162817267
Yep I just want to test some stuff with it, the chest piece is just for fashion
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>>162817092
Fucking R-team
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>>162817210
>>162817212
He doesnt kill himself when human just stays that way unless he dies would it be best to just CE SL to his and follow him around to try and Dickwraith invade him?
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>>162816318
Because this is le epik fantasy castle, no one was that retarded in middle ages to have a giant hole in the main hall. Also
>just a castle with bridge that's not even a draw bridge
>single gate, no gate house
>no murderholes
>no defensive walls
Drangleic is more like a pretty palace than a castle at this point.
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>>162817332
Sign's down
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>>162817039
>then whats a good way of forcing myself into his game?
the same way you used in the glory days that you weren't actually here for
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>>162816318
Huh, that build looks awfully familiar to the guy who was bashing DS2's invasions because he was doing Bell Keeper at 600k SM, when I told him that Drangleic Castle would be closer to what he should be at.

HM.

Try invading in shrine of amana or in the basement by the ruin sentinels, that's where players get stuck the most.
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>>162817569
Thank you depression you are my dark souls waifu
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>>162817689
and yet again i tell you that the problem with ds2 invasions is not where to invade but with what
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Do twinweapons benefit from the 2 handed 1.5x str bonus?
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>>162817092
>>162816318
Most castles have holes or open windows near the top to let the smoke from all the candles and fireplaces out. Also because setting castles on fire was a pretty common tactic back in the middle ages, and fire is really bad in places with ceilings for the same reason.

I doubt that was the intent, but if they took inspiration from real castles that's what they used.
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>>162817841
no
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>>162816160
Try that on the DLC bosses
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>>162817762
You're welcome, hope you enjoy it
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>>162818270
>strafes around blue smelter
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>>162816160

Welcome to Dark Souls II: casually circle-strafe and poke every boss to death edition.
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>>162818335
I had Fume, Alonne, Ivory etc in mind.
My bad for not specifying
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>>162818272
Do you use this character to stash all items in the game?
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>>162818470
I remember doing that. Only fume did something to cover his ass
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Why is he so best?
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>>162816160
>ultras are actually useful
>R2s are actually useful
What a novel idea!
Shame they didn't bring that concept into Bloodborne or 3. Guess "R1R1R1R1R1" is part of the much-vaunted Miyazaki touch.
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>>162818470
Alonne and Ivory have enormous blind spots on their backs as well.
In fact Fume has it as well, he just has a grand total of one move that can somehow cover it, but if you see through it, it just becomes another way to punish him.
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>>162818632
Jokes on you. 2hr2 of DS3's Greatsword is way better than in 2 because of enormous HA, more horizontal range cover and ability to launch virtually any opponent the fuck away from you.
Ultras in DS3's pve are as good as they are in DS2's pve, only with added bonus of charged R2s allowing to absolutely assrape enemies with knockdown chains.
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>>162816160
All dark souls bosses tend to be "circle stafe roll 2HR2 repeat", but DS2's bosses are the worst about it. I think it's because so few of them move around like DS1 bosses did. The few bosses that actually do move around (Pursuer, Ruin Sentinels, Lost Sinner, Chariot) are actually pretty interesting as fights.

The DLC bosses are far better, though still not on par with DS1 bosses.
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>>162818871
>Pursuer, Ruin Sentinels, Lost Sinner, Chariot
They all have the same attack patterns with the exception of maybe Chariot (who is so easy i barely classify poor horse as a boss). Charge, 3-hit combo, a poke. Utterly predictable and you can just hug their asses for massive damage.
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>>162818845

I really really really hate that greatswords were basically turned into longer, higher damage, but *slightly* slower straight swords with the best poise HA stats in the game now.
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>>162818619
>god tier design, shame we can't get his set along with a dual weapons based on the profaned and judgement sword
>nice theme
>varied and impredictable moveset the first time you fight him
>he have a stand
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>>162818479
I don't have all of them, but it's my main so I ended up with a lot of things. Are you looking for something? If you are, I can check and see if I have it
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>>162818619
Yeah he's pretty good for a dead man
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>>162818997
Yeah, but at least they move around so that you can't just circle strafe them. Except maybe pursuer, since he tends to move in only straight lines and stays in place otherwise, 'cause he's an Armored Core.
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>>162819061
They deserve it. It's one of the most diverse weapon class in the game with virtually every build having their own dedicated greatsword, the least From could do is making it viable as fuck.
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>>162819061
Greathammers have more hyperarmor tho.
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>>162819140
Na I'm just curious I recon you already gave some items to my others character
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>>162819203

Yeah but they all play the same: staggered R1 staggered R1 staggered R1 until you can R1 R1 combo someone for 700 damage or some bullshit. They're also OP as shit they're not just "viable".

>>162819463

Problem with that is it isn't by much and they nerfed the HA frames to start a lot later, whereas with GS's the frames start pretty much instantly. It's really dumb.
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Just died to Wolnir for the first time in over thirty kills. Perfect RNG meant I had a dozen skellies on me and he never killed them off with his breath attack.

Weird. Also saw the sword three times in one fight when he normally dies so fast that he's never able to cast it. Feels like I finally saw what FROM intended the fight to be like.
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>>162774818
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>>162819869
Ik that feel i never knew wolnir summoned skeletons until one playthrough i didn't kill him asap it was actually cool it made the boss fight just a lil less trivial
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let's have another fc today

had a lot of fun yesterday and there was a lot of cute characters...
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>>162819869
wolnir can be a supreme asshole if he actually uses his fucking gimmicks
there's an enormous difference between Wolnir who just does dumb slow punches and Wolnir who summons a fucking army on your ass, constantly moves upwards, uses his sword and spits the damaging mist all at once, they really need to force him to use his fucking arsenal
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>>162819073
Best boss coming through
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>in a world with some faggot gankers
>decide to be a faggot too and play the obscuring ring + greatbow hide and seek game
>they search me for a while as I kill phantoms and invaders alike with the millwood blast

>suddenly screen goes black, loading screen comes up, I return home with absolutely no message

????
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>>162820373
spotted the PCuck
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>>162820424
wat? I'm on PS4
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>>162820324
host
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>>162774818
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>>162820352
He was a great boss until I realized that the patented Miyazaki touch had saw fit to make his "turn around" animation extremely slow and narrow-angled. You can literally strafe to his side while pointblank and he loses the ability to hit you. His AI breaks as well, and he'll either jump to the side and attack in the wrong direction (missing you completely) or sit still and do nothing while you hit him.

I'm half certain they lazily tacked on the clone gimmick in phase two as a stopgap measure for trying to mitigate how bad his AI is and how trivial it is to break it by strafing up close.
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>>162820506
I'm too selfish
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>>162820593
any souls boss is challenging only first time around, all of them have weaknesses you can exploit
pontiff is still godly in terms of theme, atmosphere, design, animations and all other things that make him simply enjoyable to fight
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>>162820324
Are you bf?
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>>162820808

He's even more enjoyable when you don't cheese him, took me 3 tries to beat him on my first playthrough with a 2 handed lothric knight long spear, literally just got gud at rolling and hitting him once or twice before dodging again.

I feel like my first playthrough was more enjoyable than for most people since I didn't use a shield or parrying or bleed.
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>>162820352
>No S rank above A
for shame
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>>162820352
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>invade a solo host
>he already cleared the level
>he just sits there with dried knuckle on
>all he does is roll around with seemingly very high stamina regen
>literally takes 3 invaders about 15 minutes to kill him with katana, halberd and straightsword while he just keeps rolling, running and chugging

I really hate DS3 mechanics sometimes. They're not terrible, but when shit like this happens you just have to wonder what the fuck convinced the devs to not dampen down on that kind of shit.
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>>162820808
The hardest souls boss is the first solid boss you ever fight, before you figure out the common exploits that are in all souls bosses.

For me, Manus is still probably the hardest because he fights so unlike all the bosses in DS1 and DS2.
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DARK SOULS TRUE BOSS ORDER

>Asylum Demon
>Crestfallen Warrior
Save 1000 souls for Residence Key, pick up Burg Black Fireboms and Gold Pine Resin.
>Black Knight (Sword)
>Havel the Rock
>Black Knight (Halberd)
>(blacksmith, get the basement key from the parish)
>Titanite Demon
>Siegmeyer
>Hydra (farm twinkling)
Remember to kill the Yellow Golem.
>Moonlight butterfly (use souls to buy crest of artorias)
Use Black Firebombs and 1-2 Gold Pine Resin here. Or just skip the Butterfly entirely and use the Forest Back Entrance (fight Sif instead).
>Forest Hunters
>Sif (First real boss, instead of capra)
>Blue drakes (valley of the drakes via the shortcut by the grass shield)
Skip these, the ones on the bridge are too defensive at it will take too long to kill them.
>Undead dragon
>Firelink (back to parish via shortcut)
>Hellkite from behind (cross the bridge, knock down ladder, approach again from normal path)
>Solaire
>Capra Demon
>Butcher and Wife (farm large shards from slimes)
It took me 50 minutes to farm 9 Large Shards. It might be better to do Sens Gate Skip or use DKGA+2 instead.
>Ingward
>Four Kings
>(back to the blacksmith with the last ember, get a +15 weapon)
>Valley of the Drakes
>Blighttown
>Shiva of the East (after purchasing items)
>Quelaag curb stomp
>Gargoyle curb stomp
>Iron Golem curb stomp
>Priscilla
>O&S
>Gwyndolin (get that sunlight blade son)
SLB was kind of useless for me, didn't get to use it on a 27/40 base END 30 VIT build.
>(warp to quelaag's domain, use izalith shortcut)
Warp to Firelink instead, you have to place the Lordvessel plus it's faster anyway.
>Ceaseless Discharge
>(BoC doesn't count because he's not a boss)
>(warp to Anor londo)
>Seath
>(warp to firelink)
>Pinwheel (counts more than BoC)
>Nito
>Curb stomp everyone else, including DLC
>Gwyn
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>>162819869
It usually happens if you try to destroy both of his right bling blings instead of going right left right.
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>>162821737
Manus was a bitch even after the hell of doing tier 5 dungeons in bloodborne, surprisingly. Completely forgot how to fight him and how good his moveset is. He's a BB/DS3-tier boss despite being created when those two were barely in concept stage.
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>>162821796
>killing crestfallen
for what fucking reason
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>>162821796
>save souls for residence key

Master key, son. You need it to access Havel anyway.

What was your humanity for farming the shards? I assumed by then you would have 10 humanity.

I forgot about the back entrance and yellow golem to the forest, that's easier than farming souls for the crest. Plus helps with the 'alt' approach.

Any other improvements you would do to this run?
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>been invading a ganker the past few days
>actually had a ton of fun fighting him each time, they're super tryhard but kind of dumb so I killed the host almost every single time
>find them again today
>still ganking
>one of their phantoms has hacks on and shoots arrows at people that lag the shit out of your game and crash you

Turns out some people are legitimately so terrible at this game, they need hacks to gank
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>>162821956
TO TEST YOUR MIGHT.

Seriously if you've never tried to kill crestfallen you're missing out on one of the best hidden gems in dark souls.
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>>162808975
Just use follower's javelin
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>Javelin's fly trajectory almost always allows to headshot bosses like Oceiros or Yhorm
It's like they calculated this shit.
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>>162822135
>killing friendly NPC because autism
ok
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>>162822135
I tried to kill him on my first playthrough.
Had to make him run off the cliff. Fucker's surprisingly strong.
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Why is the pickaxe parryable? That shit is a greathammer.
The fuck?
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Give me a guts cosplay build for Das3 please
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>>162822262
>"autism"

It's literally one of the most fun and challenging fights in the game. He has perfect parrying timing and cannot be de-aggro'd. If you've never actually tried to kill the NPCs in dark souls you are missing out.
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>>162822356
It does thrust damage, that's why. Thrust attacks are parryable no matter what the moveset.
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>>162822356
because otherwise it would be absurdly powerful
well, it's still absurdly powerful
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>>162822046

The Master Key can't open the Residence Key doors. I had 10 humanity while farming the Shards. Got 13 Green Shards though.

>Any other improvements you would do to this run?

There are some things that I didn't write down, but I think they should come naturally with this route. Like getting the Hornet Ring to kill the Forest Hunters. The Black Firebombs and the Gold Pine Resin are very valuable in the beginning since your weapon does very little damage. You just need one Resin to get the Drake Sword easily for example, and that's a huge upgrade over a +5 weapon.
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>tfw Distortion2 is such a fucking whiny bitch but he's the best speedrunner
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>>162822346
>>162822409
>>162822262

He has about 1000 health, a 100% shield, will backstab punish and has perfect parrying timing.

It's a gateway test to see if you're good enough to do the alt-run where you go after havel/sif/hydra first.
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does changing your download region help you invade certain people at all?
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>>162822530
>>162822502
I actually didn't know that.

What about thrust jumping attacks? Forward + R2 I mean?
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>>162822610
If I remember right, ALL attacks with a pickaxe do thrust damage. Test it with the leo ring and you'll see what I mean.
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>>162822502

wat

UGS 2H R2 thrusts aren't parryable.
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>>162822535
>The Master Key can't open the Residence Key doors
It can open the door to the Gold Pine Resin, but it can't open the door where Griggs is trapped.
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>>162822682
Yeah but I mean are jumping attacks parryable if they deal thrust damage?
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>>162822706

Are you sure? I need to test this because I could swear that it couldn't.
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>>162822706
This is what I meant by >>162822046 , it can open the pine resin one. That's why people pick thief so they can cheese bleed + pine resin in early game to kill bosses super fast.

You also get more pine resins before sif when you approach from behind, which helps.
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>>162822409
>implying I didn't do genocide runs
>>162822592
How is he challenging if you can fight him the same way you fight havel? Just parry his ass 793hp ass until he's dead.
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>>162822874
>>162822706
>>162822046

https://youtu.be/BNmYQYzn3SY?t=4m37s

4:30
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>>162822356
Because from hates big weapons in general.
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>>162823052
I'm an idiot, he gets the residence key in this video, but I could have sworn he doesn't, last time I played through I didn't need it to open the gate.
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>>162822816
No, as far as i know, no jumping attacks are parryable
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>>162822837
>>162822706

Just tested it, you only need the Master Key.
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>>162823179
>>
>fight some dude with a straight sword
>does 400+ damage per hit
How? I'm SL119. He wasn't using any sort of buff when he hit me for 450 (non counter, non-instability, completely standard r1) but he had enough stats for darkmoon blade in his build, as I saw him apply it at some point.

Can someone make a mock build and show me if this is actually possible?
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>>162823529
almost 100% sure that he's a cheater
have you noticed that you were doing less damage to him as well?
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>>162823645
Sort of, yeah. Usually my greatarrows hit for around 400-500 damage, but they only hit him for ~320 non-counter and he wasn't even wearing a helmet.
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>>162823529
PC ? If you go around sl120 you'll meet tons of people with 99 in all stats
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>>162823708
>but they only hit him for ~320 non-counter
100% cheater
block the fuckface on steam
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>>162822227
Javelin somehow headshots people when they do an action that makes them bend their head towards their chests. The WA also has a bit of HA in it, pretty gud decisions or well worth coincidences
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>>162823807
That does nothing.
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>>162823857
this did nothing in previous souls games but i've never encountered cheaters i've blocked in ds3 ever again
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>>162823312
I wish this thing made a comeback. I fucking miss sequence breaking and going wherever I want.
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>>162823767
I'm okay at best at the game but even I wouldn't pull this shit. I mean using CE to do something funny like in DaS2 I ran into some wonky fucking shit and it was the best thing ever I fought a guy who could shoot spells from his weapon which didn't do lots of damage he also had crazy particle effects all over which made it hard to see and I managed to get the win this happened several times and I loved it.
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>>162823529
DaS3's cheat detection system basically doesn't exist so popular meta ranges are full of people walking around with all their stat values edited to the maximum

Straightswords continue to scale well basically forever because Dark Souls 3 is a fair and balanced game, so they legitimately end up with crazy high AR at max stats. Flat defenses also scale effectively infinitely so someone with max stats also takes significantly less damage from everything.

Dark Souls 3 is a good game.
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>>162823901
You were lucky then, the only thing that DaS3 uses from steamworks is achievements. Blocking niggers is just a placebo.
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>>162823923
The funny thing is that this guy with the straight sword was standing in pontiff looking for duels. He'd bow and everything.
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>>162823971
considering that DS3 has limited upwards invasion ranges, continuous scaling makes sense though From should just activate a fucking VAC or something
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So why did everyone switch to Caestus over Parrying Dagger and Target Shield? What do you guys know that I don't?
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>>162824248
better parrying frames, useful weapon art
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>>162823971
How do they have max stats if they are only at SL120? Or does the game literally not even check to see if your SL matches the levels of your stats?

Even DS2 will detect cheaters using low SM on high levels...
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>>162824248
startup frames -> parry frames -> recovery frames
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>>162824248
Caestus has the best parryframes as well as being the lightest parrying tool. There's literally no reason to use anything else.
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>>162824105
People are fuckin' retarded I say, if you're going to cheat make it fair not total bollocks.
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>>162824395
According to this chart it's just as good as the parrying dagger and comes out sooner. But why, From?
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>>162823971

>le pc face
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>>162824395
Also I just notice, parry shield has the frames of fist weapons but a few more? Why aren't they used more? Weight?
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>>162824559

And their animation is shorter isn't it?
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>>162824374
>Or does the game literally not even check to see if your SL matches the levels of your stats?
This one.
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>>162824564
>implying people don't cheat on jailbroken consoles
lul
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>>162824663

Their animation is retardedly long

Have you ever seen someone using them over a normal small shield? that's why
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>>162823529
Well, the SLSS has 442 AR at 40/40 and several other straight swords can get into that same range. That said, I don't know exactly how defense is calculated in DS3 but it seems suspicious for a 440ish AR weapon to hit for 450, even with something like the WA on the SLSS active.

It's very possible that person was cheating but he could also just be some ultra tryhard meta faggot. It's also possible that the hit was an instability hit even if it didn't look like one on your screen because Souls netcode is awful.
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>people who lag so badly they can literally just walk up to you and mash r1 and you can't hurt them but every single one of their hits connects
Why is DS3 netcode so fucking shit?
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woah you can parry the javelin wa if they have no fp, the javelin just flies through you
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>>162825027
>ds3
>has been a thing in every single from game since DeS
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What's the best greatclub on 50STR in DS2?
Dragon's tooth?
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>>162825027
That's what you get from p2p connection with people on the moon. Netcode doesn't matter.
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>>162824782
He's not wrong.

People cheated their asses off until the PS4 came out and did something about it and now people just savescum and mule.
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>>162825176
>>162825129
Except in DS1, you had the weirdest and funniest bugs happen

In DS2, it would become a weird match of "chug and spam r1 and see who dies first"

In DS3 it's literally just
>the person lagging wins, fin
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>>162825093
Post proof faggot
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>>162825286
>Except in DS1, you had the weirdest and funniest bugs happen
except that's your rose colored glasses
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>>162825330
just try it retard, also idk how to webm
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>>162825286
Okay now here's a question for you.

Why did you come here to complain? Do you feel the need for your ideas and anger to be reinforced? When you are confronted with something that doesn't agree with your idea you seem to just ignore it.

What exactly are you trying to get by posting here about your issues?
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>>162825283
>>162824712

>people are cheating on jailbroken consoles
>people cheated their asses off

HAHAHAAHAHHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHAAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>162824782

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkxJTs5mDCU
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>>162824395
>katana has 4 frames
Why bother
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>>162824564
>>162824782
I feel like I'm the only one who remembers hacks in pre-PC Dark Souls 1.

People would come into your game and drain all your stats and you're now level 1 on that character you worked very hard on.
What made is so infuriating compared to PC hackers was that you couldn't just pop open CE right quick and unfuck your character.

This is why everyone in DS1 used mules.
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>>162825520
Because it's still good if you have flawless connection to the opponent and if they had more frames that would be just retarded.
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>>162825286
I once fought a guy in DS1 who lagged so badly that I spent about thirty seconds uselessly backstabbing his unmoving player model, only to die instantly and only see him backstabbing me twice after YOU DIED had already appeared.
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>>162824782
>>162825467
Great quality posts right here man. I guess that's what happens if you're consolecuck for too long.
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>>162825520
Because if you miss the timing it has more damage reduction than perseverance, renders you immune to stagger and costs no additional stamina.

It's an exceptionally low risk parry
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>>162825389
>idk how to webm
1.Get OBS studio to record footage
2.Get Webm for retards to convert files to webm https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter
Pic is settings some anon posted before, works fine for me
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>>162823971

I still don't understand how this shit is even legal. Like... the more I'm using the Astora SS in invasions the more I'm realizing just how fucking retarded SS's are in general. I mean take the raw ASS for example:

>basically outdamages everything all the way up to +6 just based on basic AR alone
>literally usable with base stats on a knight, technically usable without the faith requirement but 3 points in faith is nothing and actually opens up some useful miracles for use (or at worst, caressing tears ember heal glitch)
>which means you can easily just dump all of those stats you'd normally have to put into str/dex into VIG/END/VIT/FAI/INT instead, depending on what build you want
>because it's raw and the moveset for SS's are better 1H'd anyways, no reason not to always have a parry tool out basically for free, or WA shield or offhand xbow or yhorms or whatever the fuck you want just take it
>with 16 END (base END + chain) you can swing 6 goddamn times with no stat investment
>has amazing phantom range and a 3D hitbox with diagonal swings (compared to 2D vertical or horizontal slashes or 1D pokes)
>attacks are fast as fuck, prediction parries only
>has a 3 hit combo with R1 R1 R2
>amazing at rollcatching
>running R1 has like, a fucking 270 degree arc or some bullshit (pic related)
>R2 is a poke that is actually long as fuck (you take a step forward and it adds up the entire length of both the weapon and your arm) and also quick as fuck, rolling R1 is a poke, both of which do counterthrust/leo synergy so it's basically a better spear too
>Has TWO (2) goddamn WA's, both of which are insanely OP: a quick and powerful guardbreak for deleting turtles, and essentially a charge that has HA and doesn't suck like spears. Both of which cost minimal FP so you can spam them a ton if you want.

Like... it's just fucking dumb how OP they made SS's. Only reason to use anything else is to be a hipster basically, when you really get down into the details of it.
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>>162825820
Shadowplay is better if you're a complete retard and don't want to configure shit. needs geforce gpu tho
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>>162825467
Not everyone's on a current gen console dude.

Not everyone has enough reasons to get a PS4, especially since the PS3 is still decently supported. Persona 5 is slated to come out for PS3 in April of next year.

Quit being such a fucking faggot.
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>>162825935
shadow play is better period because the process for shadowplay is built into the GPU itself so it will not hinder your computer at all during recording
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>>162823901

I blocked a BR cheater and still invaded him like 3 times in a row in crux woods a couple nights ago so that's bullshit. Confirmation bias, you just got lucky the blocking communication didn't actually do anything. Placebo effect pretty much.

>>162824663

Longer recovery frames meaning it's extremely easy to backstab punish a parry shield user.
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>>162825891
You forgot the part where that charge WA has stronger HA than greathammers and reducing incoming damage by 50% for its duration, while also comboing into a guaranteed followup
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>>162825891
It's just historically accurate my dude :^)
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>>162826080
>>162825492
>2 month old ps3 footage
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>>162826190
>half swording against unarmored
What the fuck man.
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>>162826058

I did mention how insane it is and that it's better than spears, I just didn't go into detail.

But yeah the point is they're fucking insanely OP. I mean look at that fucking screenshot man, look at that arc on the running R1, that's literal fucking insanity balance-wise, how is this legal? Even on the R1 swings I've hit people who are literally like, how do I describe this... if I'm attacking north they are southeast of me and I still wind up hitting them, like jesus fucking christ.

And all of this for essentially 0 stat investment, allowing me to just dump those stats into VIG.
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>>162826080
That anon was wrong in saying you needed a jailbroken console. Maybe you don't understand how easy it is because you've never used a computer or understand how data is stored so I'll tell you how easy it is

1. Plug in any USB
2. Save file to USB
3. Plug USB into computer
4. Open up your choice of Xbox memory readers (there are a lot of them)
5. Edit memory to your liking, in dark souls case infinite health, stamina, spells, etc
6. Save it back to USB
7. Plug usb back into console
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>>162826312
To fuck with an opponent that has no chance of harming you, I guess. Chivalrous BMing, basically.
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>>162826038
He's the underage consolewar faggot from /v/ who likely got his consoles from his parent's check.
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>>162826190
>Mordschlag
>banned on battlefield
>literally the best way to fight againt plate armor if you have only sword at your disposal
lmao who wrote that shit?
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>>162803913
they must have learned that with dbz
>this sword fits on the back of trunks
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>>162807930

Strategy is a thing. Souls mechanics are the lack of a thing. RTS games would be objectively awful if visible hurtboxes were irrelevant and micro was reduced to timing, and if your units could only fire a volley every 5-10 seconds.

Why play a game with laggy alpha non-mechanics?
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>>162826570
>banned on battlefield
>muh honor
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>>162826570
Somebody who has no idea what he's talking about, but wanted to write a manga that is vaguely related to combat with weapons.

Also it might actually have been banned, like crossbows, but everyone probably just ignored both bans because it's war.
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>>162826758
Uh-oh I better die like a dog against armored opponent because some dude said it's not allowed.
Half swording is a legit technique shown in various manuals and saying it was not allowed is just retarded.
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>>162826312
Half-swording wasn't just useful for bludgeoning plate. Combined with armour of your own, it made for a great way to control your opponent's weapon.
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>>162815484
>implying that onlyafro is a brown spic
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>>162827040
I agree, but the Pope had no idea about anything that wasn't religion, and thus "banned" a bunch of really popular methods for some dumbass reason. Thankfully no one cared about the bans, because if they did they'd be dead.
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>>162826190
Oh man that is some westaboo shit right there.

>I let you knock my sword out of my hand so I could break your ribs with my ultimate secret technique B& for its stoppin' powah

Just once I'd like to see swords be goddamn swords.
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so why /dsg/ like pontiff again?
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where can i find a good spot for hollow gem farming?
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>>162827529
Halfway bonfire, run back and dodge the corvians to smack the priest up there, then sword fragment/bone out
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>>162827521
homolust what else
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>>162827529
Halfway fortress.

The storytellers drop them.
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>>162827529
Halfway Fortress. Run backwards, slap nearest Storyteller crow, go back to bonfire, repeat. You can extend the sprint to grab the second Storyteller but that works out slower than simply grabbing the first and resetting.
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>>162827341
No way man every cultures weapons are unique special little snowflakes that have their own techniques that are unstoppable and blah blah blah blah wank wank wank.
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>>162827529
First or second bonfire in road of sacrifices.
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>fighting aldrich at SL60
>only able to deal magic damage

HELP
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>>162826190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi757-7XD94
Shit I better be dead because I'm not allowed to you muh sekrit banned technique that has no counter supposedly.
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>>162827752
You dont have Great Chaos Fire Orb?
Its a 0/0 spell dude, go get that shit
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>>162825891
>I mean take the raw ASS for example:
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>>162827616
>>162827641
>>162827643
>>162827673
thx for the info, now off to farming i go
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>>162827848
Pope Yukaslegion the Beandipped banned that technique you scrub.
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>>162826190
Got a source for that lad?
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spamming dark orb in DS2 is literally the least fun playstyle to play against in any dark souls game
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>>162825392
>why are you sharing your thoughts?
wow... I never thought about it that way...
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>>162827848
>keeps bullying armor during commentary
That armor look like it will come to life and kick that guy's ass.
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>>162828121
I do not, unfortunately. Sorry.
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>>162828245
Fuck, cheers anyway
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>>162828153
That's because it's the best playstyle in any Dark Souls game. Then again, throwing dark pyromancies in DS3 comes close.
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>>162828121
I forgot the name but it's chuuni as fuck so don't bother.
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>>162828153
Cast Recollection and Dark orb and watch people dance around. Bonus points if you mix the dark orb spam's timing.
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>>162828671
>not kicking back and enjoying some over the top chuuni every once in a while

You're missing out on some cheesy stuff, man.
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>>162828851
Yeah I also need a name
That fag spamming goblin slayer made me read it and now I want more. That shit only had 8 chapters released, fuck.
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stop
hosting

fightclubs

before

killing

the boss

INVADERS WILL GET BUTTHURT AND RUIN IT. ALWAYS. DON'T DO IT.
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>>162828071
lmao
he also banned points down
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>>162828967
>before
>killing
>the boss
You have to or else you can only summon one or two people. Host unembered so invaders don't come.
Also I think you mixed up the spacebar and the enter key.
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>>162828967
>fight club with only two people

ebin anon simbly ebin
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>>162828967
>dumb duelfag doesn't know mechanics

Not surprised
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>>162825891

POST WEBMS
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>>162828921
You could always fall back on Berserk, it's supposed to come back early next year. Like anyone fucking believes that.
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Anyone on PS4 around to help me transfer stacks of souls and some rings between characters? They're all yours if you're inclined to savescum.
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>>162828409
>>162828773
It's a bad playstyle that's easily punished, but it requires -hard countering- and that just ruins the fun.

Hex spam and the game become about who can ring swap vs R1 spam faster
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>>162829237
I've read all the released Berserk chapters.
And Miura will obviously make one chapter where nothing important actually happens and hiatus again for another 4 months.
I hope that motherfucker doesn't die before concluding.
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>>162829237
I was surprised at how short Berserk was, the way people talked about it i was expecting something 3 times as long
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>>162829394
I thought it was very long. Took me about a week to read everything up to the last chapter released at the time
Worth every minute though.
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>>162829150
>duelfag
? Duelfags are the ones promoting FCs. The guy complaining is a butthurt "stop liking things that I don't like" invader.
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>>162829231
>That desperate zigzag
fucking lmao pvebabies are funny
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>>162829394
Yeah, I know what you mean. I recently went through it again in about 2 days. I did nothing but read for those 2 days though.
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>>162826190
so what's the name of this?
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>>162829569
He's complaining about invaders ruining his FCs
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>>162829231
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>>162829772
Point downs trigger me so much if they win with a gimmick
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>>162829847
what gimmick was I using?
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>>162829231
I'm surprised I manage to hit a r2
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How do you deal with faggots who spam the farron greatsword sweep and nothing else? Is it parryable?
I can't trade with it because it seems to have more HA than a greataxe can break with R2.
I've tried using my own DSGA WA to trade, but he can just roll out before it hits.

What do?
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>>162830278
Any time the FGS is in 1 hand it can be parried. IIRC all of that weapon's L1 attacks can be parried as well.
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>>162829967
None i was just saying point downs almost all the time trigger me not as much when its a fair fight but if there using CCS or some other bs i fucking loose it
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>>162830278
>parry anime sword
>bait l1 and 2h axe jump attack
>punish it's shitty attacks like third l1 or weak r1s
Farron gs' potential is being able to mix l1, r1, r2 or roll attacks plus parries. If they keep spamming the l1 learn to parry it because it's the only ugs that can be parried on most of it's attacks.
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>>162830585
>both 1 hit away from dying
>unzip spear
>running r1 and win
>point down

If that was you, I'm not sorry
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>>162830278
UGS are only unparriable when 2H. You can't ever truly 2H the FGS because it's a paired weapon. Do the math.
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>>162830594

Hope I run into one of these breakdancing faggots again, that weapon triggers me so much but I've always avoided learning to parry like the plague. Now that I've set myself up with a hornet parry focused invasion build I can't wait to start practicing on them if they ever show up.
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>>162830652
Nope what was he using? Was is Dark Sword?
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>>162830652
>tfw my low level invader uses, in order: raw ASS, deep dagger, and raw 4 pronged plow
>literally use a SS and if I parry I switch to the dagger for the riposte, and if they survive that next comes the spear to finish them off
>all of this with literally 0 stat investment into damage

Feels fucking dirty, man. I love it.
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>>162830652
yeah, good idea
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is there a weapon tier list like we had for ds2? coming back to play the dlc and want to know what's even worth using
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>>162830885
Anything is viable if you try hard enough
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>>162830714
>I've always avoided learning to parry

It's literally the easiest playstyle, even if you're no good at it you can spam parries and win off luck because whiffing a parry has pretty much no consequence in DS3 and just about everything you encounter can be parried.

I've probably gotten about half of my bone shackles from lucky hornet ring ripostes with an offhand rapier.
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>>162830885
They all have one or two gimmicks. Some more worthwhile than others like loyce gs compared to sanctum mace. Others like bone fist and yorgh's spear are fun.
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>>162830839

Spears are and always will be noob traps. That said they were also a great learning tool for me, I love spears despite how shit they are in invasions, that they forced me to develop a high degree of paranoia around parrying because literally everyone and their mother immediately unzips the parry tool as soon as they see the spear, it's disgusting. All they'd do when I did pontiff duels all the time was sit there trying to parry, every match came down to me playing around parrying until they died. I did it the hard way too: it became a whole lot easier once I discovered the existence of turtlepoke backstabs.

If you can beat parry kings consistently with just a 2H'd spear you're pretty much a god. Even more so in invasions where there's estus. I got gud at it but honestly after a couple hundred hours that shit starts to become a chore, so using it while dual wielding helps a ton.
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>>162830885
Beat the Deacons using basic stuff (to get to a high enough level) and then tackle the DLC and use something from there for the rest of the game. IMO the DLC itself was pretty bland but the weapons were great and made the purchase worthwhile.
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>>162831236
>not reading instructions for dsfix
you deserve it
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>>162831110

Depends what SL you're at, if people know what they're doing they can punish the shit out of parry spammers like webm related for example.
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>>162830839
>unzipping that shitty spear

You can see he had no idea what he was doing. I have no qualms unziping spear + crossbow combo to cructh wins.

>>162830803
No, I wouldn't use a spear versus that anyway.
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>>162831236
You fucked up the one thing you could fuck up

good job
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>>162831469
what do you mean
how do you defeat him?
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>>162831359
That's just not very good parry spamming.

Not to say that parry spam can't be overcome, but a decent spamologist will be able to bullshit most people with relatively little risk.
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>>162831558
I think you already have that information readily available to you :)
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Is there a way to be unbanned?
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>>162832008
Boot up CE and change the ban stat from 1 to 0.
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>tfw ISIS strat worked
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I have tried EVERYTHING to get to that ladder
PLEASE SPARE ME
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>>162831743

It really depends on the weapon trying to be parried though, I mean obviously with spears or thrusting swords sure because even if they whiff they aren't taking very much damage at all vs. if they land it (which is easy to do) they basically one shot you or close to it.

If you try that shit against a straight or curved sword though with someone who knows their shit and isn't just R1 spaming all day, you're gonna get your shit pushed in like that guy did. The trick with parrying isn't to spam it, it's to trick people into doing a predictable move which you can then punish. Often this is stuff like running or rolling attacks which have the same attack timing all of the time, or when you whiff attacks on purpose because a lot of people even at higher levels have the mentality of "you attack, now i attack, then you attack, then i attack" so you can attack and then parry their follow up if they get into that rhythm.

It's way easier if you do it when they least expect it, if you just throw them out like candy even a dumbass is gonna go "hey i think this guy is trying to parry me" and they'll play around it. You want them to think you'd never parry them in the first place, until it's too late and they rolling R1 you or some shit because hey he's healing time for a free hit!
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Has anyone tried the now official PS4 controller steam support?
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>>162832059

lol I wish that was a thing

>get banned for using CE
>use CE to get unbanned

like pottery...
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>invade somewhere
>host stands at the bonfire with prism stones around the area
>bows when he sees me

Those people can eat a dick. Why act like it's gonna be a fair duel when you have a 30% HP bonus over me?
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>>162832656
Duel me with 30% less hp OR I'll seed, use 15 estus, summon, WoB and wait by the boss fog
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>>162832079
>pyro out-pyroed by clay pots
the most hilarious school of magic
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WE ALIVE AGAIN, LADS! GET HYPED!

>>162832656

Just run in and kill him if he's by himself, I mean invasions are still basically that except he's got a bunch of estus on top of that. Not like the 30% bonus or 15 estus will matter when you hornet riposte him.
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>>162832626
Seriously though. What can I do?
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>>162832837
So who's the faggot streaming?
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>>162832939

summit and dansgame
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>>162832194
>If you try that shit against a straight or curved sword though with someone who knows their shit and isn't just R1 spaming all day, you're gonna get your shit pushed in like that guy did.

Maybe if I never get the initial parry and every other attack is a jumping attack and I somehow fail to dodge all of them. I don't want to completely disregard what you're saying, there certainly is a better way to play a parryfag but I stand by my assertion that parry spam is an effective tactic against most people and still relatively low risk even against people who know what they're doing. You can say that there are ways around it, I won't dispute that, but the hornet ring and quick easy parries are a top-tier combo with a skill ceiling so low that pure luck can pull victory from the jaws of defeat in an instant.
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>>162832656
LET US DUEL HONORABRY until I start losing
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>>162832837
Yeah I mean I don't get mad or something, but it is kind of boring compared to actual invasions and it's mindboggling as to why they think they're having fair duels to begin with.
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>>162832939
Maybe some day it'll be me and I won't need a real job anymore.
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>>162821796
>killing Siegmeyer and Solaire
kys
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>>162833240

The black separation crystal exists, just sayin'. There's no downside to just crystal'ing out of anything you don't want to do or deal with.

To me a lone host is just an invasion that's gonna be over quickly instead of taking longer, it's still just as fun since my goal is just to delete people and remind them that they're shit.
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>>162833805
They usually use knuckles, so black crystaling out seems to often result in just invading the exact same guy again.
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>>162833240
I do that and here's what I think.

The odds are all against you, all you have are mobs and I can turn them instantly against you.
Like it your not, fighting me with 30% less HP is the best chance you have at winning
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>>162832194
What's your build specifically?
And all what weapons, armor etc are you using?
I'm just curious. Low level PvP is a hell of a lot more fun than high level, my level 96 fights dumbasses who are rewarded for being stupid.
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>>162834083
you sound like a faggot.
Hell, I'm sure you are a faggot.
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Is there a way to fix the "failed to load save data" when trying to use a savefile in other account?
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>>162829231
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>>162833145
>dumbass gets me to low hp
>starts spamming running attacks
>lmfao gotem
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>>162834083
but... that's retarded. Why not just gank if all you want is to win?
Why not summon reds or go to the arena if all you want is 1v1?

Why do you pretend to enforce a honorable duel, but you will not do so without giving yourself a big advantage?
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>>162829269
git gud
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>>162834372
>invaders bitch endlessly about how unfair all the seeded gank squads are
>a host tries to make things as fair as he can
>bitch about that too
What the fuck do you people want?
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>>162835000
They want invasions. Not ganks, not unfair duels, they want invasions.
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What goes better with a greatshield: Super heavy armor to complete the look, or light armor so you can still roll around while your shield protects you from damage anyway?
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>>162835230
The former if you're not a faggot, the latter if you are
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>>162835252
So the first option is only good for autists who care about muh fashion in a videogame and the second option is great if you want to actually have fun with a build, got it
Thanks anon
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>>162835357
no problem XD
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>>162835357
>greatshield turtling without sacrificing invincible rolls
>fun
This is why you're a faggot.
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>>162832158
Go to the bottom, do a little killing
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>>162834851
What? I don't want duels or to gank. I'm not trying to progress, I'm most likely trying to farm and/or invade because I don't feel like killing my boss and you are blocking my ability to respawn mobs or use my REO.

Now I could run to the boss and kick you out, but that'd take more time depending on the area I'm at.
I could also gank you but that'd require me to BC out phantoms after and that's pretty rude towards them and you.

This way I don't lose time and you don't as well. It's also the one way you have the most chances of winning since with only seed I'm already at an advantage.

I don't care about honor or ganking, I want to get this over with and dueling so you stop wasting my time is faster than running after you or the boss fog.
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>>162835230
Depends on the weapon.
Things that are heavily reliant on HA will want poise armour. High-stability shield pairs particularly well with curved greatswords since they are the fastest things with 1H HA

If poise and HA aren't important to your weapon of choice, then there's no reason to use heavy armour. There's a reason most havel/estoc turtles wear basically rags, and it's because the investment in vitality to carry the shield and armour together is a waste.
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>>162835357
No, you heard me. No need to justify the decision if you've already made it.
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>>162835697
>can fuck me up in 0.1 seconds if he gets a hit because I'm wearing shit for armor with my heavy shield
>waaaah ur a faget
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>>162833862

Invade a different area then. Or again just kill the guy and be on your way. The game isn't that dead if you're in proper invasion levels instead of meta level.

>>162834193

Knight, SL36 +4, I use raw astora SS, then deep dagger, then raw plow in my mainhand, with offhand knight's crossbow with lightning/heavy bolts, blesstus, and sunlight talisman.

Because base str/dex works for all of these, you are free to dump your stats into whatever else you want, mainly VIG for life though. It also frees you up to do faith shenanigans so I put 18 into ATT so I could run both tears and force (i'm still testing out force since it's fun and there are some situations where it can straight-up win you invasions, but if you don't want it you can put that 4 points of ATT somewhere else), since none of the other stat rings do anything for me I put 1 point into FAI and keep priestess ring on all the time for 5 free levels.

My rings are currently prisoner's chain, priestess ring, hornet, and knight slayer's ring, though the last one you can run whatever you want really, I'd say at least chain and hornet are absolutely essential at this level. I don't have any of the NG++ twink rings though so I'm just rolling with what I can get, but honestly I don't find myself really missing ring of favor +2 or life ring +3 on this so I like having other utility instead like guardbreaking or obscuring ring for ambushes, or one of the +5 stat rings for 5 free levels, alongside chain that's 20 free levels.

Armor is whatever you want, I generally min/max for damage absorption to some degree to offset prisoner's chain's debuff. Lothric knight is really good, I like armor of thorns a lot because it's edgy af but also gives you like 13% slash absorption for only 8 lbs. Generally just wear good knight armor stuff, knight and nameless knight stuff is often pretty solid depending on your weight requirements. Currently using the herald helm because I like the look of it and it shows my face.
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>>162835750
>I'm most likely trying to farm and/or invade because I don't feel like killing my boss and you are blocking my ability to respawn mobs or use my REO.

So oyu come out to find me, or you pull the plug.

Where is the problem?
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I don't get it.
I gave siegward his armor yet greirat still died, why?
fucking shit game
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>>162834697

I mean, like I said originally:

>The trick with parrying isn't to spam it, it's to trick people into doing a predictable move which you can then punish. Often this is stuff like running or rolling attacks which have the same attack timing all of the time

The key is generally predictability, but often you can bait people into doing predictable shit. If you ever see someone doing the same move over and over again it's very easy to punish it with a parry, you just have to be aware of it.

Personally my favorite in invasions is using something like a RH halberd and throwing out a poke or two which misses, most people are like HERE'S MY CHANCE! and try to do a running attack or roll my attack and try to do a rolling R1 and just get fucking deleted, it's great.
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>>162835000
>Invading = dueling
>but not dueling; dueling "as fair as the host can make it" i.e. not fair at all
yep, a gigantic flaming faggot
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>do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-8Imhnt5kw but with an actual weapon
>wear calamity+prisoner's chain
>accuse everyone of hacking
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>>162836338
parrying should be removed from PvP because there's no counter and absolutely nothing you can do against someone who parries all your strikes
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>>162836338
> it's to trick people into doing a predictable move which you can then punish.
Yep
I used to consistently parry shit with the Zweihander parry. It's all about setting it up right.
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>>162836273
>pull the plug

No I don't. I won't bother fighting you either. I'll wait a few minutes by the bonfire. You show up and duel me or I just run to the boss fog
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What did he mean by this?
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>>162834454
Post your qt face, I wanna see it again.
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>>162836685

It punishes bad players who spam or play predictably, it's one of the few good things about the game especially considering how fucking lopsidedly favored hosts are in invasions.

>>162836760

Yeah, that's what I was talking about originally, that you don't just spam parry like an idiot. You purposefully create a situation where you know your opponent will act a certain way, and then punish it with a parry. Like when you heal with estus and you see a guy running at you, you get a healparry. Or when you see a guy running at you with a 2 handed katana, hmmm I wonder what he's gonna do? Yup. Get fucking deleted, kid.
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>>162836849
>run to boss fog
>get ambushed

This is the only time I point down
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>>162836306
You can't go to dungeon or Siegward moves there and Greirat is kill.
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>>162837047
I'm actually kind of sad greatweapon parries aren't a thing anymore. It was a lot of fun coming up with parry setups.
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>>162837084
>obscuring
>cat depending on area
>slumbering
>bloodring

You can't really stop me, as much as you want to think otherwise
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>>162837047
I only played DaS1, are halberds still the best weapon ever invented?
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>>162837179
oh
welp
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>>162821854
Manus is piss easy if you go full poise+artorias' greatshield.
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>new item swap tables have the DLC armor but not the DLC weapons
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DaS2 > DaS1/3/Demon's/BB
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>>162837290
Obscuring ring and slumbering isn't very effective when the other guy knows where you're headed.

It's kind of funny you'd suggest it even. Sounds a lot like you've never even done that.
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>>162836685
>Notice shitter spamming parry
>Throw out running attacks haphazardly
>Run directly at him
>Continue running straight by him, quickly turn then backstab him as he parries

Never gets old.
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>>162837047

Also that webm shows a bit what I mean by the "i attack now you attack now i attack now you attack" idea. You see how I threw out that whiffed R1 while switching to my caestus and then just kinda waited for him to attack? Because generally people see you whiffed an attack and often think it's their turn to attack now, like a psychological trick.

>>162837207

Yeah but what can you do, we got the game we got. Just gotta live with it.

I suppose you could try parrying with medium shields, like a lothric knight shield. They are harder to parry with due to fewer frames but the tradeoff is they can block with high stability and 100% physical block. Could try using that to set shit up somehow.

>>162837305

They suffer the same problems against ganks as all pokey weapons do (though I really need to start testing doing 1HR2's while running away from ganks) but yeah they're top tier. Both glaives and halberds.

The 1 handed moveset is supreme, the tracking is literal fucking insanity. You can basically full 180 noscope on people, while the R2 is a nice horizontal slash that is great at rollcatching people. The stagger on them is incredibly long compared to other weapons for some reason, like obviously if you land the first R1 you're guaranteed the 2nd R1, but if you trade with someone you'll actually come out of your stagger first and still be able to land the 2nd R1, it's pretty sweet.

If you want to use the WA on them (either charge or perseverance depending on your preference, both are good when used properly although perseverance is easier), use a WA shield, BK shield being the most meta choice.
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>>162837748
>implying
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>>162836338
I like the time when 1 parry and wake up hit make them go full DSP and just give up.
>>162773836 tfw forgot I already posted it
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>ring of favor and havels ring nerfed to shit
>still pretty much required on any build
you rike?
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Hey Bomarrash, you're famous!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URtfP6YVplA&t=5m29s
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>>162837751
Slumbering is there to make mobs not aggro, obscuring is, so if he did not come to duel, he'll not know where I'm headed to. I suggest you actually try that. Equip those rings, go to aldrich or woods, wait until 3 invaders appear then run to the boss. I can assure you they will not be able to catch you. I do this all the time with only 2 since I don't finger, but I'm sure you could do againt 3.

How would you even know where I'm headed anyway? I didn't make a big annoucement or anything, he'll need to find me, even though there are usually multiple routes to the boss, and then catch my rolls with less than half a second of invulnerability frames enough times to kill me before I directly connect one of such rolls with the fog wall.
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>>162837868
Sounds just like I remember them from 1
>more damage than spears
>insane range with reasonably quick animation
>R2 for people who try to roll away from your attacks
Actually, are spear builds viable in 2 or 3? I love the idea of poking a guy from behind my shield just as he is about to land an attack, but the stamina drain was never worth it for the pitiful damage
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>>162838097
>havel
>required
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>>162838102
Is he "our guy"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fNSfExAeL8&t=12m6s
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>>162838097
Am I alone in thinking Havel's RIng in DaS1 was too much? I don't care about MUH BALANCE OMG, but it just gave so much fucking weight capacity, I never even knew what to do with it at SL120
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>>162838126
>How would you even know where I'm headed anyway?
Where could you possibly be headed mate
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>invade at aldrich
>it's gankers
>run all the way to aldrich with 3 people on my ass
>black crystal out in a corner
it's so petty but it feels so good
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>>162838305
>video will play after 30 second ad
I hate jewtube
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>>162838126
I'm too lazy to follow your entire argument, why don't you want to fight other people?
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>>162838651

How can you browse the web in Current Year without a content blocker?
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>>162838498
I meant the specific route. There are multiple ways to reach most bosses in the game and I could pick any of them and given I'm leaving the bonfire area with obscuring and slumbering, an area you're not at, there's no way for me to be ambushed like that.

>>162838686
When I'm invaded I wait at the bonfire for the invader to come since it doesn't waste my time. If he doesn't duel, I'll run to the boss fog. I'm arguing this can't be stopped.
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>>162834454
>seeing myself in a webm

I like this feeling desu
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>>162838102
>>162838305
>shits up FCs
>doesn't kill jund
if you like dicks, yes
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>>162838806
Doesn't waiting around for the guy waste your time even more? Just wait at the fog gate, eventually everyone goes there
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>>162838882
Most people usually come quickly since the bonfire area is the first they check. If I get to the fog gate, I will just go inside. I don't give a shit about the invader, I'm only doing whatever is more convenient and faster to me.
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Still new to Souls games.
What's the big difference between parrying with a medium shield and a caestus? And what about riposting, is it better with your regular weapon or should you carry a parrying dagger?
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>>162839018
Why don't you just stay unkindled m8
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>>162838808
explain yourself degenerate
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>>162839115
>Difference
Caestus is easier and therefore the goto shitter tool, try small shields instead

>Riposte
Regular weapon or a dagger(regular)
Parrying dagger might be the worst parry tool
>Riposte with parrying dagger
Don't
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>>162839184
Because it usually happens when I'm invading
And if you are thinking
>why don't you kill your boss or make a backup?
Sometimes I like actually fighting invaders and seeing how long I can survive and I also like to keep a collection of blue tongues
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>>162839184
Because he's a faggot who plays "In this theoretical scenario, I win!" on /dsg/ instead of playing the game
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>>162839115
doesn't the parrying dagger just have more frames to parry? i.e. it is sliightly easier to parry a strike with it, that's it
just get a greatshield and stop worrying about parries
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>>162836947
>tfw I can never parry meme charges
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>>162836947
>getting so upset at a random guy in the arena who is kind of bad you record it and put it on youtube then post it on /dsg/
Just point down little man
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>>162839115
>What's the big difference between parrying with a medium shield and a caestus?

Medium shields have the least parry frames(which means that you have to have a better reaction to the parries which is basically impossible in pvp) and you should either use a small shield, Memestus or a dedicated parry shield(i.e Target shield) for parrying. In DS1 you can barefist parry too, though.

>And what about riposting, is it better with your regular weapon or should you carry a parrying dagger?

Parrying dagger is for parrying, not for riposting.
But generally daggers have a higher crit value that's applied to both ripostes and backstabs.
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>>162839308
Ah, that makes it clear. Thanks.
>>162839517
I suppose this is the way until I get good.
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>>162839773
t. Larsboem
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>>162839517
It has more parry frames, but the startup is impractically long to the point of uselessness.
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>>162839284
J-just a kissu

Aleksandra come back and kiss me
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>>162839773
Upset? How did you derive that I was upset?
I found it funny
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>>162840386
If you find something funny, you have a chuckle

If you find something upsetting, you take a convoluted course of many actions to help heal your bruised ego
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>>162839929
You'll get purged for that indecent behavior
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>>162838153

Yeah basically they're better spears. They also have an awkward attack animation which makes them very hard to parry, compared to spears which are ez parries.

>Actually, are spear builds viable in 2 or 3?

I never played 2 but in 3 they are basically 1v1 weapons, the problem is they only attack in 1 dimension (a straight line forward), so against more than 1 enemy they're pretty shitty, and they can also be difficult to free aim for the same reason when you're playing unlocked. On top of that they tend not to do much damage and don't get a guaranteed 2 hit combo like halberds do from what I've seen.

So they're insane in 1v1 honor duels with no chugging, and in invasions they're generally used to run people down who are running away after you take out most of their life (after a parry hornet riposte for example), or to some degree to deal with slow heavy weapons that you can poke from a distance. Honestly though in invasions I mostly use them for the running people down or to help when the host ends up getting ganged up on after his phantoms got killed so I don't hit other invaders. Even for greatswords and heavier I prefer still using my halberd or straight sword but I'll switch to my offhand crossbow and pew pew them to death as they whiff their staggered R1's.
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>>162840498
Are those youtube video tags auto-generated when you use the PS4 share thing? Because,
>MuNkYBoY96
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>>162782826
gargoyles, long range and has sweet sweep moves
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in ds2, forest of the fallen giants first bonfire, how the fuck do i get up on the cliff right near the bonfire, there is an item there and i can't find any way to it. can't take a pic because they just come out blank white
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>>162834697
That fucking scythe riposte is awful. I still can't get over it.
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>>162841439
what are you doing bro
>recommending the halberd with shit range 18 hours later
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>>162841490
cliff by the first bonfire? wut?
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>>162838808

Some anon told me this was them so it's not always pretty: >>162788554
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>>162841490
Right, go up the ladder ahead into the arena with the Heide Knight in the middle(Vanilla) or a fuckton of bodies(SotFS).
Go right until you see an exit that leads to a new ladder, look around til you see the item and 'cliff' you spotted before
Jump to it
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>>162804116
Crystal + Court
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>>162841385
>but in 3 they are basically 1v1 weapons
not really, they are hit and run weapon, probably the best in that aspect
perfect for rushing down people on low HP, perfect for just safely poking a host and cooper a few times then getting away, etc
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>>162841490
You have to jump for it from on top of the wall with the first hollow soldier and the shortsword. It's a pretty risky jump and the loot is nothing special, so you can skip it unless you're really desperate for lifegems.
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>>162842084
10/100
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>pulls the plug 12 seconds into the duel
wew that bronze badge sure is hard to get
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>>162834454
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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who think invaders are just mean and that every single mechanic that further disadvantages the invader (not being able to drink estus, prioritizing worlds with multiple phantoms, seed of a tree giant, dried finger, ect.) are good features or features which should be implemented.

Invaders being able to chug half of what is normal and having 30 percent less hp is enough. I can't believe there are people who think invaders shouldn't even be able to drink at all on top of all the other shit we deal with. I'm so fucking glad I can be a grape and enable alternate win conditionsin a system like this, but it's not very satisfying not to kill the host.

>inb4 ahaha fuck you invader!
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>>162842461
ahaha fuck you invader!
My world, my rules
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>>162841819
>>162841981
>>162842150

i can't fucking find it jesus christ why make is so hard for a lifegem
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>>162842084
You had one job

Uncensored version where
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>>162842145

Except you can't safely poke people down because people will just try to parry you all day, and not necessarily even spam parry but because you can parry spears on reaction and they don't do much damage even when you land a hit, and especially in an invasion where people have a million estus they can chug, and you have 2 or 3 people trying to hit you (and of course they don't have friendly fire but invaders do, thanks miyazaki)... it's bad.

So yeah they're 1v1 weapons. They're top-tier in honor duels, for example. Situations where you don't need to bust through 15 estus chugs and aren't getting gang raped, basically.

Halberds are just better in every way and even do more damage. Hell I even prefer the running attack to the spear's poke, then over the head swing (even with the pokey ones) where you keep forward momentum and which is also difficult for most people to parry.
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>>162840498
99.9% of my videos are literally only there because they're nice things I wanted to save but didn't want to take up space on my ps4. You've grown a head
>>162841395
5th grade
>>
Are there any FC's going on/planned today?
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>>162842810
I can host one later
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>>162842723
>5th grade
Doesn't change the fact that you were born in 96 and therefore all your thoughts and opinions are worthless
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>>162842563
That's fine, I'm not telling you to gimp yourself. But thinking the current system is good or that invaders should be gimped even further is something l see a lot and is totally retarded.
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>>162838456
it was too much but only slightly so. or rather, the other rings (not all, just the underused like tiny being's seriously, what the hell is that) aren't quite enough. Especially with the only 2 available slots
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>>162841395
when you gonna fight me again m8
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>>162842936
>Tiny Being's ring
>That description in the chargen screen
FFS from
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>>162812369

That anon has the bloodlust boost on other weapons from the looks of it.
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>>162842701
I'm still making it, adding dicke and balls
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>>162842871
>he can count
Wew we got a smart one lads, you're the type of guy who bases all his critique on video games around them being nostalgic or not
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>>162843143
What's the original?
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>>162842936
That's a good point, I kinda just accepted that all the rings are either useless, situational as fuck, or the FAP ring
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>>162842461
>>162842925

To be honest the only problem I have with DaS3 invasions is the seed of the giant tree. I mean, not being able to constantly re-summon phantoms would be nice (or at least have some kind of a cool down timer or something), but honestly I can deal with all of that as long as I can use the mobs in the level.

Why? Because I don't need embers or covenant rewards. My fun is in fucking with the host and his phantoms, preventing forward progress, that's it. As long as they aren't getting to the boss, I'm happy. I'll also happily put them in their place and show them how shitty they are at the game, but if they really abuse mechanics in the game to the max I'll at least grief the hell out of them and use all of the mobs in the level to my advantage.

So really the only problem is giant seed, it just shouldn't exist at all. It's a dumb mechanic since the whole fucking point of invading is that you're like a mini boss, another enemy.
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>>162842925
That's what you get for twinking in the past games, it's payback time and I point down every last one of you
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>>162843214
>reading a number = counting
>wew
>lads
>b-bet you only care about nostalgia
Yep nothing more than I would expect from your generation
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>>162843143
Nice, don't forget to post it in here >>>/aco/1036421
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>>162843354

okay kiddo just make sure to cry lots when I point down at you and your phantoms because you're all shitters.
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>>162843492
Got any actually new webms? Or are you still clinging to those few times you actually could win
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>>162843373
>this new generation is trash
Yeah, I'm sure you're the first generation to say this
The guys before you had so much pride in themselves knowing they raised great people
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>>162833651
You can't complete their questlines this way anyway, and You want the humanity for the lost izalith shortcut, plus Solaire drops great set of armor. So why not?
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>>162843661
You're a faggot my dude.

t. 95 babby
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>>162842254
>ppl turn into shitters the second some meaningless ranking system is in the game
why From, why did you have to put this shit in?
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>invade at lvl 20 or something at wall
>7 invasions in a row 3v1, 3 2v1
>not a single 1v1

when will they fix it
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>>162833805
I've had players summon me to gank squads for using a black crystal in a duel before, but that was in DS2. Sometimes black crystal makes people salty
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>>162843568

i got plenty, mostly it just takes time to go through my shadowplay recordings and convert them to webms that fit the 2.99MB and under restriction, then I have to name and sort them. mainly the thing is they're not all titled pcpdbf so you don't even recognize the new ones i've posted already.

>Or are you still clinging to those few times you actually could win

kek, stay mad kid. we don't really get fanmail on pc so i need angry autists like you to continue fueling my imagination for what i think the people i dominate feel like and say/think after they get anally devastated.
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>>162843354
>l want revenge on EVERYONE for what a small handful of people did to me that I'm still mad about years later, fuck the whole mechanic!
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>>162843884
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>>162843954
>the people i dominate feel like and say/think after they get anally devastated.

they literally don't give a shit and forget your name less than ten seconds after. you can kys in peace now

>unironically points down in random invasions
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>>162844237
>they literally don't give a shit and forget your name less than ten seconds after.

yes, im sure that's what you wish happened, and try to convince yourself of every time you get dumpstered like the trash you are.

>you can kys in peace now

kek, you sure seem upset there buddy, you ok? show us on the doll where the invader touched you.
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>>162843931
I could maybe understand if he had a gold badge, but you can get bronze after like 20 minutes.
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>>162844334
i don't get invaded, i invade myself all the time and without being an ultimate edgelord like you

if anything you're the upset one, seems like you got triggered and went on some invasion rampage to let off steam
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pcfc
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>>162844494
>point down = ultimate edgelord

I mean if they're a good sport lone host then l don't point down, but if they're a shitter with phantoms it's no holds barred.
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>>162843232
eroquis
>>162843463
i just posted the uncensored version there
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>>162844524
where
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>>162844765
>naming group instead of author
how amateurish
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what's a good spot to farm the thrall axe?
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>>162845527
CheatEngine.
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>>162842084
source?
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>>162845527
I can drop one for you
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>>162845594
uh
I'd rather not get banned.
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>>162845721
nvming found it butcha-u - Metroid XXX
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>>162845806
want anything in exchange?
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>>162845956
I'd give you but I'm banned
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>>162845956
Nope, what platform are you on?
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Why are faggots so mad at point down and then claim that they totally don't care when people do it to them?
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>>162845594
cheat engine is ok but glitches aren't.
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>>162846214
>>162846214
>>162846214
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>>162846143

You're getting it wrong. When you use point down, they're not mad because they feel like they've been pwned. They're mad because there's nothing as aggravating as a 13 year old who thinks winning at video games makes them superior.
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>>162846098
pc
I'm at undead settlement bonfire
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>>162846286
Yes, that's exactly what "mad at point down" means
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>>162844765
You're doing god's work
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>>162846358
I put my sign down, pass is dsg
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>>162846143

It's funny when others get pointed down. The fun stops when it's me who gets pointed down
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>>162846540
My question is more conceptual, what's so bad about point down? It's just a gesture
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>>162846539
thanks bruh
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>>162846897
No problem, friend
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>>162843239
>>162842936
>>162838456
The only rings worth using in that game:

DWGR + Hornet Ring
DWGR + FAP
Havel's + FAP
Havel's + Wolf
Wolf + FAP

The benefit of everything else can be obtained through one of those combinations + stat adjustment.
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>>162844147
>l want revenge on EVERYONE for what a small handful of people did to me that I'm still mad about years later, fuck the whole mechanic!

I swear that's a quote from a Miyazaki interview
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