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What's his endgame? (Edition)

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Group: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/pottisdefenseforce
Discord: https://discord.gg/gxGqKkH
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/

Previously: >>162751581
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if i had a gun i would shoot icefrog
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6jAdQ9fWPc

I got bored, made this
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>>162766641
if i had a gun i would shoot myself
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>Queue another game
>Feeding Dark Seer mid because he can't have Monkey King

Well that's 0/5, literally have tried to play 5 games and every single one of the has had an abandon or a feeder in them.
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Posting everyday until they fix it
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>>162767306
>OG on the last frame
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this is my waifu
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So with the new Bounty runes, can TA finally be played in safelane just as well as mid?
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>>162767306
Fucking kek
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>>162767716
A safelane farmer has to walk too far to get bounties. They're for offlanes and supports
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>Reaper's Scythe Scepter upgrade no longer disables buyback or deals extra damage.
>Death Pulse damage reduced from 125/175/225/275 to 80/120/160/200
Death Pulse heal reduced from 70/90/110/130 to 60/80/100/120

Rip necro
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>>162767514
try posting it on Reddit, not even memeing senpai
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what was so wrong with the last patch?
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>>162767797
this meme has gone too far
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>>162767874
I probably should yeah but I already posted this one yesterday. I don't wanna constantly post it everyday there.
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Ilexa, the queen of /d2g/!
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>team picks spectre
>30 minutes in we're getting our shit kicked in
>"don't worry boys I got this"
>manage to stall the game out 20 minutes longer
>Spectre finishes Radiance
>win every teamfight after

I thought this was just a meme?!?
Literally just pick Spectre and win at the 50 minute mark.
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n i g g e r s
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>>162768158
ilexa is a princess though
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>>162767894
>>162766328
Not dota.
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>>162768234
I was talking about Ilexa the hero!
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>>162767797
>>162768048
Necro Aghs was the best pub strat in the world. Get your upgrade and it no longer matters that half of your team are feeding retards, you can shut down whoever is fed and mop the rest up.

They want 1v9 to be literally impossible while refusing to address how you can't even communicate with the goddamn South Americans in Internet cafes. Fuck, man.
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who hates this patch here? honestly I can get over the map changes, the talents trees (which are a memey as fuck), and OP monkey kang, but the final straw was the leveling system. It is so trash, barely worth denying anything since leveling up goes so fast it doesn't mean shit. Let alone all games go way too fast for any vested interest. also Dom and Satanic are shit now
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Black King when
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naga fish haHAA btw im retarded haHAA
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>>162767894
right here senpai>>162768383
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>>162768443
fuck you want nigga
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>>162768383
only thing that triggers me hardcore is how shitty the UI is and the retarded shrines
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>>162768215
>50 min radiance
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>>162768458
Don't do this.
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>>162768383
I dislike the patch somewhat. I don't hate it since I don't care that much about Dota anymore and just play ranked casually, but if I had some emotional connection with Dota I'd probably be angrier.

I actually find the talent trees genuinely cool and think they add to the game, much more than stats.

I can't really get over the new map with infinite bounty runes, easy gold and XP for everyone and the camps only spawning every 2 minutes. Lane control irrelevant, farming patterns irrelevant, etc. Pretty annoying.

I guess I'll play supports or offlaners now. Collect your bounty rune to have fun.
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>>162768443
Blacks can't be kings.
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>>162768443
you want a second sun wukong?
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>>162768654
im tired of this pepe meme with glasses and shit
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>>162767705
excellent choice anon! drow is the best waifu!
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>>162768780
https://youtu.be/CkaX6tyq9pI
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>>162768772
I've loved dota since like 2009 and i like the patch
The HUD is getting fixed, and eventuallly 7.00b will nerf whatever needs nerfing
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>timber can farm ancients now
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>>162768823
>WR
>disgusting cowtits
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/3/31/Monkey_ally_212.mp3

In my headcanon, this is a sitcom-esque ploy to get them to hookup.
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>Burrow Strike Scepter upgrade no longer applies Caustic Finale on illusions, only real heroes.

>Spirit Breaker Level 25: +17% Greater Bash Chance

>Craggy Exterior proc now only affects melee heroes, no longer has a 300 range.

>Greevil's Greed Bounty Rune multiplier rescaled from 3/4/5/6x to a constant 2x

>Chaos Knight Level 25: Reality Rift Pierces Spell Immunity

>Broodmother Level 25: +8 Max Webs

Lel i hate icefrog
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>>162768961
DID SOMEONE SAY TINKER ANCIENTS?
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>>162768443
>>162768780
>>162768876
I want this 2007 /b/ NIGGERS LOL!!!! shit to go away now

Yes I know all the replies will be t. mad nigger because you shitbrains can't think for yourselves
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>>162768991
sorry this should be a little more to your liking
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>>162769068
t. mad nigger
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>>162768991
those arent cow tits, they are delicious big tits

now this >>162769108 are disgusting cow and meme tits that fill dota 2 r34
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>>162769108
oh god yes
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>>162769068
SOME FINNA
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>>162769031
Yeah, if you managed to get a 4 stack or something (after 10 minutes of stacking), have fun with the new ancients being there, 70% magic resistance and something like 30 HP/s regen on each ancient.

I'm sure you can get through with like 10 marches though.
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Monkey Kang is best hero desu very fun
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>>162768595
forgot to even mention that
>>162768772
>Lane control irrelevant, farming patterns irrelevant
spot on, that and things like inventory management are just a thing of the past which is lame really. every game in my opinion was more than just getting the better picks and better farm, even though its a big part, those little nuances were what made games more interesting. now its just chasing down fight after fight to rack kills.
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>>162769068
t. mad nigger because you shitbrains can't think for yourselves
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>>162769010
It hadn't even occurred to me that the patch is one giant overnerf to Alch. Does he even have a purpose anymore?

There is too much fucking free XP and gold, period.
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Do we have a discord
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I'm not expecting pros at 4.3k mmr but holy shit I wish people were at least somewhat competent already
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>>162769431
No. If you want to anime furry gay ERP just go to the /vg/ channel ingame and don't post about it here
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>>162769431
fuck off
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>>162769431
who is we exactly
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>>162769431
no lad just post your gay furry ERP in the thread that's what we all do
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>>162767514
Resized version and easier to look at the retarded health and mana bar lengths
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>>162769431
we sure do, we have fights all the time.
here look i'll start one now: AM is OP.
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>Blessings upon a loyal warrior!

What did she mean by this?
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The only way i can have fun anymore is if i play Riki exclusively
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>Carry hasn't managed to save up enough gold past the 30 minute mark to purchase anything
Can somebody explain this to me? this seems to happen every game.
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>>162769729
This is an AM patch though

4 protect 1 is coming back now the game is basically non-stop fighting in the jungle
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What's the best way to play techies? Roaming with blast off?
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>>162769862
roaming into runes of repick
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>>162769447
5k is pretty much unplayable senpai, literally half of all accounts up here are 100% boosted animals.
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>>162769768
it means she likes blessing young warriors
pic related
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>>162767705
this is my waifu
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Reply to this post with your favorite courier(If you pref an aura variant over a default post it)
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>>162769817
>4p1
but everyone is a core now
the new meta is 1p4
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>>162769108
wtf are you into freaking balloons or something?
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>>162769986
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>update is rushed and full of bugs
>constant crashes
>fps was raped
>worse performance than when reborn was released

>valve won't address this at all
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>rubick
>ember
>wr
>tfw all your favourite heroes with dogshit winrates actually get nerfed and their talents are awful
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Arc Warden is irredeemable garbage now y/n
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>>162769986
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>>162769108
>>162769246
>>162769215
Daily reminder that only 0 and 1 are acceptable.
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>>162770256
>3rd worlders regularly get forcibly disconnected from the game so they can't feed
Where's the problem?
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>Haven't played dota in well over 2 years
>Haven't touched """moba""" in well over a year
>Game still remembers I'm 4k Solo MMR
Am I fucked?
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>>162770256
why aren't you posting pol shit like you usually do lebanon?
I thought you were illiterate concerning dota
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>>162770353
t. shadowverse player
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>>162769986
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>>162770256
Runs better than ever on my decade old windows XP booting Macbook, how shitty is your shitbox that it's running worse than mine?
>tfw loading into games in like 10 seconds
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>>162770387
No it's all right, mmr constantly inflates so your 4k is now the same as old 3k
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>>162770353
shut up pedo/faggot
2-4 is good
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arc didnt deserve the nerfs he got
copying consumables mostly affects 1/2 mangos to get mileage out of the spells, but a hero's mana-restore mechanics are only a balance issue if their spells are an issue. for arc, that mainly affects ghosts - so nerf the ghosts, why take this away?
changes like this highlight how little the balance team knows about why heroes are imbalanced. you cant just blindly kneecap something for having a high winrate and even think thats a step in the right direction, let alone actual balance.
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>>162769010
isn't misho a crab? haha
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>>162770435
Is this some kind of a Heartstone ripoff?
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>>162770501
t. Zet main
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>>162770353
4-6 is objectively the best
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>>162770451
>how shitty is your shitbox
pic. used to get stable 144fps, now it drops as low as 85. and i am not the only one, you just got incredibly lucky.
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>>162770560
Anime pedobait hearthstone ripoff yes
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>>162770353
Rolling.
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>>162770501
Yes he did
And the only significant nerf was the higher cd on his ult, and the flying vision on wraiths.
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>>162769640
Putting more then 5 items in your quick buy slot changes the size of the shop too.
Why does everything need to be resizable now?
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>>162770482
>Don't believe you
>Old highest MMR was 5kish
>Go check leaderboards
>New top is 9k MMR
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>>162770560
Yes, and the game is flooded with "1000 year old" girls that look like they're no older than 7. People who play that game are thoroughly convinced it has superior gameplay despite excaberating every flaw Hearthstone has, which is a lot.
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>People already figured out you can counter Monkey King incredibly easily by having hefty AOE
>I somehow manage to get him on my team every game
>Enemy picks Earth Spirit, AA and/or Luna every game
Kill me
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reminder that spectres talent is 100% uptime dagger which means permanent 500+ unobstructed movespeed and enemy tracking.
She also does 1200 dps with mana style which is lower than KANG who sits at 1600
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>>162770353
0: Ilexa
1: Goodkind
2: WR
3: Naga
4: TA
5: Drow
6: Lina
7: QoP
8: LC
9: Luna
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>>162769981
>>162768997
Your waifus are fighting.
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reminder to play anti mage for FREE wins
>illusions benefit from attack speed
>55 attack speed from your talent tree so you can get abyssal after manta and still farm at mach speed
>doesn't care about the jungle nerfs because you blink around taking every camp on the map anway
>aghs to rupture faggot bloodseeker counterpickers and other spells
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AM is tanky as fuck with talents.

But, what's /our/ pick:

>25 agi
>-2 secs blink

I personally felt the 2 secs are a bit underwhelming. However I haven't tried the 25 agi, which seem even less impactful.
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umm dotards?
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>>162770501
i think the correct move would've been to nerf magnetic building evasion or ghost vision/range or have the double take increased damage (200%-300% or something, now your death bounty on the double is actually meaningful)
but if you're just going to make the hero unpleasant to play as a repellent to the type of person who abuses heroes like 6.88 arc, you're going to see what kind of pandora's box you open by doing such a lopsided hackjob of a complex issue.
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>>162770971
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>>162770353
>>162770880
idiots
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Will rtz win a Valve event in Dota 3?
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>>162770953
It's ok, they'll make-up and it will be hot
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>vacuum an entire enemy team
>game crashes for everyone
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DAE LE PLUS S I X TREANTS? LITERALLY UN FUCKING STOPPABLE
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>>162771084
What happened to the frog?
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>>162771105
He won't even get anywhere without direct invite
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>>162771094
>no LC
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>>162769986
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quick senpai, i randomed the ape monarch. what do i build?
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>>162771015
>>162771036
It's hard to play AM considering how popular he is. Is it because of the "the fun ends here" meme or something?
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>>162771036
25 AGI is an Eaglesong, 3.3k gold.
I'd take the AGI most of the time unless you're somehow getting kited as most of the time you only need one blink to completely run away.
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Nice UI, dotards.
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>>162771285
why is that piano playing itself?!
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>>162771339
dumb aobaposter
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>>162771036
3 second blink!!!!
It means you can blink offensively as much as you want and it'll probably never be on cooldown
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>>162771285
Deso should be your first big item
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>>162771036
blink of course
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>>162771429
>blink in
>you are a retard and dont read patch notes
>get rooted,stunned, etc
>die
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>>162767306
I posted this on reddit for ebin upvotes.
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what if rupture worked on roshan?
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>>162770295
I fucking want this courier so bad, but it's SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE AND RARE

HHHHNNNNGGGGGGG

https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/570/Jumo
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>monkey king is broken
just pick timbersaw is it that hard?
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>>162771285
phase boots, echo saber, SnY/deso, BKB, abyssal
>>162771429
>not taking FREE eaglesong
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>>162771557
Timber takes more than two buttons to play.
People don't pick him for the same reason they bitch about wukong instead of picking him.
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>>162771481
>buy aghs
???
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>>162771567
I wish you could pick the same hero as the enemy. Then I'd show you how my 3 second teleporting AM is faster than yours
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>>162770295
I want to fug that courier
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>>162767797
what was fucking reasoning behind these changes
his death pulse is awful now, it deals no damage you cant even farm waves with it
his new skill is boring shit and meme heal boost is a joke
new aghs upgrade is million times worst and it removes gimmick that made hero unique
fuck that, i want old necro back
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>>162771557
>KANG activates his passive and kills timber anyway
heh
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>CEO of EG
>TI5 Champion
>only 600 streamers
why arent you watching PPD famtachi?
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>>162771567
>>162771657
1v1 incoming????
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>>162771627
Are people really that scared of playing a hero like Timber?

I mean I can get some of the micro heavy heroes being intimidating but Timber?
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>Came back to dota for new patch
>new paint on game but still broken as always
>still ooga
>team booga
>memeback and em dota
i deleted and wont look back
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>>162771657
you don't need -3 sec blink to blink in, abyssal a hero, manta, and blow them up
with 25 free AGI you can buy abyssal right after manta and still have great attack speed, whereas before most players bought butterfly after basher because going straight abyssal would slow your farm.
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>>162771567
blink dagger is 2250 gold for 12s cd
AM gets 3s cd blink with the talent
(12/3)*2250=9000
that means a free (as in free beer) 9000 gold item
9000 > 3200
free blink is objectively superior to shitty eaglesong
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Nice patch, dotards.
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>>162771889
nice adelaide?
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>>162771806
Because he's a shitter and not even his team could stand him, despite him making them all millionaires.
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>>162771813
When did that happen? Did Dendi not give Puppey his 10%?
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Many of these talents are skewed against each other. Some are better than others in most scenarios. Why icefrog do some calculations before thinking about this
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wahhhhh monkey king is op please nerf
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>>162766328
If EG is player owned what's the breakdown of ownership?

Obviously the former EG playes like Peter have the Capital to buy out the former corporate stake in the organization but who fronted the money besides Peter?

Does Peter have a controlling interest? Who are the other stakeholders?
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The backpack system seems a little off with the cooldowns. I'd have preferred If they made the little Boots icon in the dashboard a dedicated boot slot instead.
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>>162772070
>icefrog
>thinking
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>junglers take the shrine
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>>162772070

There are bound to be some garbage choices when they are brought to every hero in a single patch.
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guys Icefrog has used a few of my suggestions

I made a thread on reddit asking for unobstructed pathing for spectre as an aghs upgrade
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/58t8iu/spectre_aghanims/
and icefrog gave it to her as a talent

And then I also made a thread about giving all heroes level 25 buffs and shit and icefrog added that too
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5ca73z/ideas_for_level_25_buffsperks_only_invoker_gets/

This is awesome
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>>162771813
story?
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>>162770560
shadowverse is a "rip off" in the same way dota is a rip off of LoL. dota is way better in every single way and so is shadowverse.
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>when your ally alch gets an echo sabre
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>>162766328
REMINDER if you stayed tuned to dota 2 since peter joined sad boys, you would know that this was his plan all along from the very begining

he even said how a player union organization is his goal along with other pro players, in the end he just takes EG and makes it his own

honestly i am impressed how he managed to stay a great captian, drafter and make it to the top of the organization he entered known to as HoN Trash
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PPD is streaming.
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>>162772482
DotA began like 7 years before LoL's creators decided to create a watered down knock-off
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>>162772569
who cares about that acne ridden nerd
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Newfag here

Am I supposed to wait till the very last sec to lock in on All Pick?

You know, to avoid counters
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>>162772387
>most probable for this picture: curly hair women nude
fuck you google you useless sack of shit
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>>162772691
No you should click random till you've learned the game unless you're playing ranked
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>>162772691
or maybe you should just pick to let the opponents counter you

you know, to learn match ups
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>>162772691
People don't counterpick in low brackets, so I wouldn't worry about that for now
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>>162772691
Since you're probably normal skill, just because someone picks your counter doesnt mean they know how to play it. Just pick what you want
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>>162772691
instapick your hero so the enemy shits their pants at your confidence.
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>>162772691
nah just random
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>NINE HOURS TWENTY SIX MINUTES AND TWENTY FIVE SECOND
>YOUTUBE
>PATCH ANAL
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>>162770971
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Adult Ilexa, finally ahero.
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>>162772691
play with the rest of us so we can provide constructive criticism and help you along to learn the ropes and most efficient builds
Search for the channel /vg/. It has around 200 members and ask for a EU stack or USE stack
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>Waga shitter
>12k viewers
>CEO of EG
>1k viewers
why does everyone dislike PPD?
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>>162773018
YES
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nice patch dotards
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>>162773018
I bet she cant buy a dragon lance
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>>162773018
I like her tum
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>>162773032

Why should new players play with perma tilted faggots like the redditors in that chat?
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>>162773018
would be cool if she "evolved" like tiny for her ult.
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>>162772070
>have idea to implement talents in doto
>think of a handful of general categories for them and a few hero-specific ones
>realize it's impossible to even try to balance the game based on them
>throw a bunch of shit together and hope you did your best
>wait a couple months to identify the most egregious talents that can't be countered and the ones that never get picked
>roll out a new patch
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when does our guy play
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>>162773228
the problem is he added talents but never actually balanced any heroes so now theres these weird power gaps we dont figure out completely until people play a few more million games
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Why do people even lose to legion commander? Shes such a shitty hero.
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>>162773194
I don't stack with tilted faggots you loser. I have a 70% winrate with /vg/ stacks and they're the only ones I play with these days. Playing alone is bad. This is a team game. He needs constructive feedback

>>162773228
he still could've done some math. 6+ treants are garbage compared to fast respawn on a carry hero. People will only pick 6 treants if they want to feed the enemy team gold and throw the game. Like the legion 58 damage talent, but the difference is that legion's other talent is also pretty good.
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>>162773489
>buys blademail
>waits for enemies to farm open lanes
>collects dewl damage
>buys aghs
gg
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what if Pugna and Ilexa had a baby?
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>tuskar gets xp bonus then gpm bonus as first two talents

OHOHOHOHOH
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>>162773681
i don't think lolis can adopt anon
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>>162773681
Girls can't make babies with other girls!
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>>162773018
ilexa as a hero would be nice but she's a radiant creep that turns into a hero
she'd be killing her own dad if you picked her as dire
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>>162773813
What if she had separate models for radiant and dire side.
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>>162773018
[Shuffles Internally]
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>>162774013
>what if [effort]
remind me what company is making this game
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Why does Queen of Pain suck so fucking hard?
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>>162773805
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>>162774123
she's a big succubus
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>>162774123
cause shes a sex demon
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Sven Jungle is really good lads
The fountains make it ezpz
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>Someone activates illusion rune
>7 people DC from the game
>safe to leave

Why was this game only in the test client for 1 day? It's so bugged it's unbelievable.
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>>162774123
that's what succubi do
that's why they exist
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>>162774171
>>162774235
when are we getting a succubus(male) hero?
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anyone know the min requirements for running this game? steam says 4gb, is that correct? Looking to start playing this game soon.
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This is the talents you select on pugna am I right?
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>>162774205
>Play Earthshaker
>Uti a PL
>PC explodes

Thanks Valve
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>>162774205
I'm guessing the illusion bug came after the test client period
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>>162774362
I'd just never get the stats tbph.
Range is too important both aggressive and defensively.
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>>162774343
you mean an incubus, you mouthbreathing inbred?
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>>162774343
never because that's an incubus
unless you mean what i think you mean in which case Doom is your girl (male)
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can someone explain all these changes to someone who stopped playing 3 years ago?
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>>162774104
Rather pessimistic don't you think anon?
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PPD just stated LIVE on stream right now that "this game feels like complete garbage right now", "I'm totally uncomfortable playing".

DOTARDS??????????????????
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>>162774471
this desu, you can buy stats but stuff like cast range and CD reduction are much more value in terms of gold
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>>162772483
what's the problem it's actually good on him
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>>162773018
good lord
>dem hips
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>>162774527
who's PPD anyway
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>>162774527

Who cares about some washed up player
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>>162771015
>bloodseeker

literally who
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>>162774590
CEO of EG
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>>162774205
>Why was this game only in the test client for 1 day?
Because some fucking retards couldn't wait another two days for their shiny new toys and had to have it NOW even if it meant they had to go through that.
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>>162774526
Where do you think we are?
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>>162774483
not the same thing
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>>162774527
I'm starting to suspect the turn rate mechanic was changed, I get the same feeling as when I first started playing DotA after switching from LoL.
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>>162774526
i've been playing valve games for nearly 10 years now anon
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>Monkey king responses
>ta and jugga fugged
>wr and drow either hate each other or are tsundere
>the kang knows some one that would be friends with sk

Wtfs his deal with brood anyways. One of the over 9000 stories from his book?
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>>162774789
and to think that half life 3 still isnt out
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DAILY REMINDER THAT MK IS JUST BAD RIKI
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>>162774648

would i give a shit about what alex gardfield think about dota 2? i dont think so

ppd doesnt matter anymore cucklord, god, imagine if shadow from wings acted like this american idiot
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>>162774352
My old PC can run 7.00 with 2.4ghz core 2gb ram can't remember my vgu i think it's 512mb.
I'm getting 21 average fps but explodes when SF used requiem.
The fps drops didn't affect it idk why meanwhile my current pc drop from constant 55~60 to 40+.
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>>162774935
He's GoodEmber
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>>162774628
That hero you see in trench, other than monkey king.
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Remember adding Shrines is a homage to Defense of the Shrines one of the other popular AoS/Dota-likes on WC3 b.net.

It means they are also going to be adding stuff from Defense of the Shrines like upgrading creeps and towers and purchasing creeps and such.
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>>162774814
>>wr and drow either hate each other or are tsundere
Nothing we didn't already know.
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>>162774814
>The Spider Demons (蜘蛛精) are seven sisters based in Silk Cave (盤絲洞) at Silk Ridge (盤絲嶺). As their names suggest, their true forms are spiders. Tang Sanzang stumbles upon their thatched hut while begging for alms and tries to leave after suspecting that they are demons. However, it is too late as the demons emit spider silk from their navels and spin a web to trap Tang Sanzang. They are defeated by Sun Wukong later and have no choice but to release Tang Sanzang. The spiders are later squashed to death by Sun Wukong.
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>>162772753
I member when google images gave better result
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>>162775018
roaming jungle bs is legit this patch.
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>>162775072
Damn I need to read up on mythology more. The literature is significantly more interesting than what we get today, that's for damn sure.
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>>162775010
ember is bad juggernaut
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Icefrog would've never let them remove the "pwned" message
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>>162774814
>check the wiki
>6 fucking pages of ally responses
wow nice
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>>162775049
I always thought it was just fan crack pairing, was there any reponses between them?
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>>162774527
He is right
I cannot stand the new HUD/UI.
I'm not playing until they fix it or enable 2 UI modes.

Member when you could see; your damage, your stats, when day/night cycle was gonna change, your last hits, the recommended items + entire shop at the same time?

Fuck this fucking fucking fuck, REVERT THE FUCKING HUD CHANGES
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>>162767797
What the fuck why would you gut a hero like that
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>>162775072
I see

And whats hia deal with beast master for that matter? I heard it was less based on his story and more a meta joke
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/9/9a/Monkey_rival_12.mp3
>monkey kand acknowledging goodking
SHOTA HERO WHEN
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>>162775238
>removing a core aspect of doto

smhtbhfam
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>>>>https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/d3/Monkey_rival_06.mp3

>>>You think you're the first spirit I've delt with?

ANCIENT APPARITION CONFIRMED FOR 4TH SPIRIT
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>>162775312
Man I miss Source 1.

Look how everything looked so nice. The foliage even.

Reborn was a mistake.
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>guy picks monkey kang
>timber.exe
>push his shit in as soon as I get 6
>soon we are doing nothing but fighting
>pretty even matchup all throughout the game, having fun despite the fucking miniscule hud giving me a headache
>our AM suddenly dc's and then abandons immediately after at 35 mins
>all my teammates do it as well without saying a word

Glad to see things haven't changed despite the new patch
/blog
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>>162775294
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/4/4a/Wind_ally_06.mp3

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/0/0c/Wind_rivaltrax_03.mp3
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/2/27/Wind_rivaltrax_04.mp3
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/7/7f/Wind_rivaltrax_02.mp3
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/a/ad/Wind_rivaltrax_01.mp3
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/7/71/Wind_rival_03.mp3

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/f/f9/Drow_rival_04.mp3
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>>162775238
Are you one of those people that uses "noob" and "pro" unironically too?
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>>162775495
Kaldr is a fundamental like enigma and kotl anon
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for OD's lvl 25 spell amp does that effect his q as well?
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>>162775562
the update was just to the game, not to iqs and willpowers of the fools playing this game
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>>162775524
And it looked better WHILE performing better.
I wish they would've just done it to TF2. Dota shouldn't be their ground of experiments to see what bullshit "Modern and futuristic" pieces of shit of design they can get away with.
They've been using TF2 as a ground for testing their shit since Mannconomy anyway, what does one more grain matter?
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You fags, if you want to destroy Monkey Kang, just pick Beastmaster and rape him to oblivion. Every aspect of this hero just shits on him

>Boar makes his shitty 4 hit combo nigh impossible by kiting him in lane
>Hawk scouts his high ass
>Roar stuns for millenias for your team to kill him
>Axes give FREE Roars when scouted with Hawk
>Inner Beast and Necronomicon transforms him into a wet tissue paper
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I NEED NO INTRODUCTION
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>>162775635
He's not a fundamental
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>>162775072
>>162775210
the demon sisters btw, they look like normal women until they transform after they seduce you

>>162775420
Well the killing lines might just refer to how he hates the fact that he's being enslaved by a monk in his story.

His ally joke though is pretty funny though
>Ditch the boar, my friend, primates are where it's at.
One of the Monkey Kings traveling companions was a transforming pig, Oolong from DBZ if you remember
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>>162775606
no i just thought it showed that the game didn't take itself that seriously

>inb4 they replace it with rekt

it wouldn't be the same
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>>162775635
fuck off, Kaldr
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>>162775851
fuck off based kaldr is the best fundamental stop this disgusting slander at once
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>>162775695

At least on Monday, both Peru and RU were still taking 10 hours to download the patch.
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>>162775635
Kotl is an old man. And dota 2 lore sucks. Stick to blizzard wc3 lore. CK has more in common with wk and sven than enigger
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>not even the single greatest patch in the history of dota can bring back enough people to beat the previous peak

DoTA 2 is well and truly dead, and the best part is Valve can't understand why.
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>>162776132
I think chinkland has broken records for concurrent users.
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>>162772265
why is this grey thing cosplaying as Pugna ?
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>>162775816
HARD TO RUN WITH A BROKEN SPINE

Despite the hero, I love the sound design of the hero, particularly that ultimate sound
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>>162776132
Dota 2 died when Source 2 happened.
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>>162775975
What are his talents? What's he talented at?

>>162776132
Memefight (6.84) killed it. It's been dying since they decided that farming is an abomination.
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do you think I could get PPD to hire me?
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>stuck in a 40 minute game that was lost at 15 minutes because LOL who needs a concede option

Well that was a short install. I remembered real quick why I quit this shit.
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>>162769986
>>162770295
Fuck Nexon and fuck Korea. Posting second most fuggable courier.
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>>162776337
doubt it
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DOTARDS
DEFEND THIS
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>>162769986
I hate that i will never have this with fiery trail of doom
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>>162775635
Kaldr is just an elemental like Bane and Leshrac
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I think people are just sick of the "moba-genre".

If dota truly died then I would have expected a surge of League, smite, HoN or HotS players. IF anything most people are still playing Overwatch.
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>>162776465
Defending one's barracks is only second to defending one's ancient. Of course we would defend them.
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>raging on a recorded stream
PPD isn't doing a great job at being a CEO
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Whats the point of harassing mid when opponent has 2 fountains a stonethrow away?
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>>162776513
Nobody is playing overmeme. Your new game is shit.
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hurricane pike made sniper broken
prove me wrong.
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>>162769986
The only courier I have that I straight up purchased and wasn't included through some compendium or battle pass package.
No regrets.
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>>162776132
>single greatest patch in the history of dota

That's the first mistake you made. You just kept making more afterwards.
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>>162776583
so that his laners dont have two fountains?
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I killed sniper 3 times as solo offlane treant but the reason I lost that game was because a 5k player was playing KANG on the enemy team.
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>>162776513
I'll probably be dropping this again and playing Overwatch.

DoTA just requires way too much time investment. Every game is at least 30 minutes, sometimes an hour, and all that time I'm stuck as a single hero doing the same thing over and over. It gets even worse when we're getting stomped but the enemy takes their time to finish, because then I'm stuck there despite having zero chance of winning.

It's just way too much time to justify the dissatisfaction I often feel after a match, win or lose.
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l-lewd!
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even PPD thinks that Monkey King's passive is retarded
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>>162776643
Just because a hero is good doesn't mean he's broken.
6.83 sniper was legitimately broken.
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literally the only positive thing to come out of this patch has been a fuckload more english speaking players because 3rd worlders cant download the patch.

By the time that the game is fixed to a playable state all the brown mutts will be back. You just cant fucking win with this game
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>A monkey and a spider was in a relationship

Your game is advocating transbeastiality.

DOTARDS??!
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>>162776513
There's nothing else to play other than Dota. I hated Overmeme beta. I was hyped as fuck for the game too. But then I played it and it felt like smaller and slower TF2. I play shitton of singleplayer games, but can't find anything good for multiplayer.
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>open ppd stream because anon promised he was shitting on the game
>sub goal
for what reason?
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>>162776931
He wants the cash.
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>>162776796
ppd doesn't know anything about the game and is too focused on prepping his stable of FGC niggers to play dota
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>>162776513
do overwatch players even still exist? twitch viewership has tanked and all my Bnet friends ever play is Wow surprisingly enough and hearthstone
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>>162776513
Smite and HoN have too little exposure and not enough marketing dollars to be relevant. League was killed earlier this year and is bleeding faster than dota 2 in north america.
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>>162776931
pure greed
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>>162776921
I feel you anon. I was actually hype as fuck for Blizzard dota until I saw how they handled progression "JUST SLAP EVERYTHING ONTO TEAM BASED EXPERIENCE LMAO". Shame too, I really wanted to kick ass with vol'jin.
I have never felt more disappointment than when I saw that first gameplay footage.
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>>162776796
Its a one point wonder that somehow gets even more broken

>1/2/2/4 attacks per proc
Then make it so Boundless doesn't scale with your damage, because that is pretty fucking insane on the hero, and make it a scaling physical attack that does also proc your orbs/uam

Something needs to be done about Tree Walk, its kinda too insane even level 1. Maybe the further you jump the longer the cooldown is. So you can't do huge jumps constantly but short jumps is the same for positioning.

Mischief needs to be targeted by creeps, towers, fountain etc
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>>162777009
They play WoW because unlike dota, you actually make progress in the game. Dota is like playing WoW for 45 minutes and then restarting. Only the pros are getting somewhere. The rest of us are almost having fun wasting time.
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>>162777021
>They're people in this thread that weren't around when HoN was more popular than LoL
HoN going b2p killed it despite selling EXTREMELY well.
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Tell me about Adelaide.
Is she viable?
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>>162777009
dude game of the year esport of the year OKAYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????????????????
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>>162776583
what's the point in harassing mid when you can just kill them
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>>162777009
Is WoW actually okay now or has the expansion finally burned out and its back to stale?
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>>162776902
Think about it this way

Winter Wyvern used to be a virgin
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>>162777148
>muh progression

Christ, Overwatch was made for babbies like you.
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Hey, look. Validation of opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2Kt6Hd_ic
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>>162777121
Ghost scepter makes you immune to KANGs fissures damage. I've used decrip multiple times as pugna to cuck him and suck him off. There's something that can counter him.
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>>162776987
>be CEO of a multi million dollar company
>still feed off 2.50 dollar twitch subs
?
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>>162777121
His tree walk is fine, the problem is Boundless, Jingu Mastery and his ultimate.

Reminder that it does
>>>80 damage at level 1 for 4 hits
>Refraction gives 80 damage at level 4
>Metamorphosis gives 80 damage at level 4
>Searing Arrows give 60 damage at level 4

>and it works with Boundless Strike and has free lifesteal
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buff me

please...
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>>162777336
That's how you stay rich. He wants to be like gaben. He can probably see the sinking ship that is doter 2
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>>162777336
>thinks the prize money goes directly into the company
EG is a brand, hardly even a company.I wouldn't even buy stock in EG, assuming that even exists.
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>>162777336
Don't settle for less

Also he makes $3.50 a Sub because of EG
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>>162776921
I miss TF2
Tribes: Ascend too
;_;
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>>162777406
all of his illusions decrease armor on hit by 1
stacks infinitely
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>>162777406
i miss cancer lancer era
because even if you had a shit game with no farm you'd win by default when you reached level 20-25
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>>162776583
There's probably going to be a shit ton of theorycrafting going over what the best uses for shrines are and how valuable a shrine is at every stage of the game.
At least AA gets nice big fat targets on the map now.

>>162777345
The spells you mentioned also give something in addition to damage, with the exception of searing arrows, but in all cases it is on-demand damage, and often for far more instances than 4.
Wukong's takes time to charge up and anyone who actually knows how the hero works isn't going to let them get their proc off.
Now I still agree that the damage is retarded but those are poor comparisons to make.
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HOW DO WE SAVE DOTA?
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>>162777345
If you 6 slot him with butterfly, eaten moonshard, bots, mjolnir, mkb and other shit and test him in the demo on a dummy you'll find he does over 1600 damage per second. He's gonna be gutted before getting put in captains mode. I want to see him in pro games soon though. It took arc warden a year and I want it faster for kang.
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>>162777540
We don't. Start finding a new game to play
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>>162769010
>Tiny nerf
wat the fug
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>>162777540
Revert it back to how it was in 2012-2013
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Holy. Fucking. Shit.
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REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)
>REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)
REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)
>REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)

REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)
>REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)

REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)
>REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)

REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)
>REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)

REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)
>REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)

REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)
>REMINDER THAT NOTAIL IS OBJECTIVITY A BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL PLAYER THAN RTZ :^)
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>>162777540
You can't.

Valve are already aware of this, the only thing they're doing is keeping it alive long enough to milk as much money as they can until they find their next big thing.
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Does anyone else become genuinely depressed after losing three or four games in a row? I stopped playing for months because of this, only came back because of the patch. I feel the lowest I've done for months, like genuinely really bad.
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>>162777540
Go back to emulating WC3 DotA, unfixable bugs and unscriptable shit included.
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>>162777687
is that skeleton king's leg?
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>>162777536
But keep in mind Jingu Master literally requires no mana to use besides hitting people, at level fucking 1. You just someone four times - doesn't matter if you take creep aggro you get 20% lifesteal, you will ALWAYS win against melee heroes because 300 attack range LOL. At level 2 with Boundless Strike you have a 260 phys damage nuke from 1 Jingu Charge. Shit is so fucking stupid. Also the AoE can lifesteal from creeps so that's even more retarded. He literally doesn't need to build any mana items besides an Echo Sabre for the regen.
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>>162777540
Stop completely transforming the game every "major" patch. Some things are better left alone.
Also, bring back Necro pls ;_;
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>>162777630
With the massive update out I think it will be faster to balance updates around this patch and add additional heroes too. We will see a letter patch within the month, and then maybe see 7.01 around April but its going to have several letter patches
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>>162777517
>Hyper Dazzul
Oh boy.
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Is the nightmare over yet? did they undo patch 7.00?
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>>162777687
This item is offensively than euls is but why would you get this over hex?
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>>162777687
This shit makes Skywrath Mage unbelievably broken against agi heroes.

God damn.
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So where the fuck did they hid the report option this time?
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>>162777093
At this point I am done with Blizzshit. There isn't a single fucking post-W3 Blizzard game I enjoy. The only upcoming multiplayer game I am at least slightly optimistic about is Escape from Tarkov. Might be fun. And I would be glad if someone shared some MP games they are playing/looking forward to, because I'll be 5k hours in Dota soon.
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>>162777848
Because it ROOTS and it's fucking easier to build?

>Skywrath ult is 2.4 seconds
>Atos roots 2 seconds
>ded
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>>162777848
Because its a lot cheaper than hex?
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i should play nonstop ranked and crash a shit ton of games with techies, leaving no survivors on my team
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>>162777984
how
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>>162777737
good
rtz is backstabbing snake and overrated trash
i also hope sumail gets deported and beheaded in pakistan for green hair
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CK is actually so incredibly trash now holy shit.
Reality Rift doesn't give bonus damage anymore so your early game killing potential is actually so much worse. And he still can't farm for shit so he'll be forever behind other carries.
He's officially worse than Techies.
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>>162778020
some of you guys are alright
don't go to ranked today
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>>162778127
>And he still can't farm
Because you build him wrong, try Maelstrom
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>>162778127
>attempt to play support as carry
>hes bad
no shit sherlock
youre supposed to farm aghs from bounties and win by using ult on your carry
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>>162771520
>>162773018
>>162774585
>>162774031
>>162773813
>>162773206
>>162773143
>>162773117
>>162773091
But then she's going to need 2 forms, one for radiant one for dire
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>>162777793
I'm not saying he doesn't do a lot of damage, I'm just saying you made poor comparisons.
Truth be told I don't really think his passive is the issue, I'm more of the mindset that his Q just works too well with it early and goes from an already good damage spell to "where the fuck did 80% of my hp go". Turn down the crit damage on that shit to like 125% at level one up to its current values maxed and I promise you his early game would be perfectly fine.
Also keep in mind until he gets something like a skadi going he's fairly squishy, and his escape ability is rather weak compared to other carries.
He's amazing when he's the one doing the initiating, but turn the table around and suddenly you have a dead MK.
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>>162778225
His illusions can't use thunder bolt tho.
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>>162778127
Techies is pretty great right now if played correctly. 7 second silence, 5 second root, three nukes that do over 600 damage each
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>>162777848
>costs 3k
>has a range of longer than your fucking screen
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>>162778309
But they get atck speed
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>new major patch
>mouth breating retards everywhere
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>>162778309
You don't use illusions to farm though anon, right?

>>162778373
I wonder about armlet now, do his illusions get the attack speed from it now or was it always like that?

>>162778417
>First week of patch and already people are ranting about buggy shit and imbalance as if its the end of the world.
Gee its almost like the patch was a complete overhaul and thus balance is probably going to be fucked for a while.
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>new patch
>kunkka winrate down
for what reason? he didn't get changed in any way besides making his cleave work like an actual cleave
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>monkey king does ult
>walk out
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>work work work
>dota dota dota
>eat sleep eat
>repeat
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/2/2d/Undying_respawn_05.mp3
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Antimage illusions benefit from the +20 AS from the tree don't they
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>>162778519
Probably the same reason pudge winrates are down a tad even though he's barely been touched.
Its a new map and as such people are still trying to navigate around, and as an indirect result become MUCH harder to predict with torrent and meat hook.
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>>162778549
>monkey king does ult
>die in 0.2 seconds because you get hit 8 times during that period
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>>162778490
It wasn't always like that. But it is now.
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>PPD has to do CEO stuff
what did he mean by this?
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>>162778586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL1UzIK-flA
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Fear is streaming
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>>162778617
but they also nerf illus magic resistance

illus getting REALLY buttfucked
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>>162778225
I'm gonna try that. But it feels stupid building maelstrom on a hero that does minus armor and physical damage.
>>162778258
CK aghs pretty much says "you're a shit hero, give your ult to someone else on your team"
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hey guys, what are the best carries in the new MEME patch
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>>162778286
>you'll never fuck tittyplaysgames
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>>162778646
yeah maybe if ur shit kid
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>Open bot game after patch
>UI completely fucked up and ugly, everything looks like a smartphone game made by high schoolers (form over function)
>Can't find courier button, can't bring up scoreboard, can't find my stats, average damage is small text down in the corner (doesn't cover bonuses)
>Shop is all fucked up
>Fountains everywhere
>Everything LOLified to the max

Wow they dumpstered my favourite game over night. I just tried playing and I hated it. It was an annoying experience. Fuck this. If they don't enable old HUD as an option I'm done.
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Level 10: +15 Attack Speed OR +7 Intelligence
Level 15: +15 Movement Speed OR +10 Strength
Level 20: +120 Gold/Min OR +12 All Stats
Level 25: Reality Rift Pierces Spell Immunity OR 20% Cooldown Reduction

Which of this would you get on CK to carry effectively?
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>>162778617
Illusions scale with attack speed now don't they?

>>162778646
I would recommend etherial to solve your problems, because for how strong MK is itemizing defensively against him is really just like against an ursa.

>>162778848
Bye!
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>>162773206
evolution isnt real liberal cuck
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what pub support is the FREEST mmr you can think of?
(if you say boringknight i WILL gut you).
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>>162778871
left
right
right
right
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>>162778878
Not with raw AS my senpai only agility
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>EU has never won a TI
>NA has never won a Major
makes me think
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>>162778964
Why wouldn't you get the movespeed and free gold? You don't want farm?
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are the fps issues fixed yet?
come on come on my exams finish tomorrow
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>>162778925
the answer is warlock and cm
you know that though and just came here for a different answer so play dazzle
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>>162778925
Dazzle, start blight stone, fuck them up with poison touch and go into blight stone+medallion
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>>162778871
Intelligence seems silly at level 10 since by then you should have at least some form of mana regen to keep you going. Also shrines.

Strength definitely, CK has problems but catching up to people isn't one of them.

Level 20 highly depends on role. Gpm for support and +12 all stats for carry. Really no point in gpm on a carry at level fucking 20 when they should have at least two items and well on their way to a third.

CDR hands fucking down. CK's entire problem is that he's the strongest hero in the game only when he has his ult up. The more uptime he can keep it at, the better he is as a result.
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>>162777160
>she
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>>162778925
visage of free wins


>>162778878
>Illusions scale with attack speed now don't they?
no they scale worse late game now
even zeus bolt one hits those shit for free gold

>>162779024
no because ck already has fuckton of ms, coupled with reality rift
attackspeed since those scale with illus hitting more
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>>162778871
depends on the game but 15 AS scales far better than 7 int
15 ms definitely
120 gpm because ck cant really farm
reality rift piercing bkb so you cant be kited, cdr gets some ok value but opportunity costs
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>no Lucian
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>>162779000
umm...
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>>162778808
>I'm gonna try that. But it feels stupid building maelstrom on a hero that does minus armor and physical damage.
It's mainly because Ilussions get the atack speed buff, when you upgrade to Mjollnir+AC dps goes through the roof
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My friend's gf keeps calling me and crying down the phone about how she's had it with him and wants to leave. She even said that when she visits us back home over the holidays that she's more excited to see me than him.

Which is the better level 25 talent for Lifestealer?
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>>162779235
did he died?
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>>162779025
Nope, valve somehow added 30-40% more CPU workload somehow
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>>162779140
oops forgot pick

>>162779193
>badWeaver
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Hum guys so I took visage in demo mode bought a solar crest and familiars melted a lvl 25 axe in 3 seconds wtf
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>>162778986
>>162779140
dota2.com/700/gameplay
>Attack Speed bonuses now work on Illusions.
You SURE they don't scale with attack speed?
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>>162779307
extra rage duration i think
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>>162778735
how many years has it been
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>>162779350
>tfw still can't figure out how the fuck to play bear man
do you just dedicate yourself to split pushing?
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>>162779235
lmao
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>>162779427
>do you just dedicate yourself to split pushing?
not really, you do it quickly but you dont have any innate mobility and your roar is more of a combat trick than an escape
so split push if the opportunity presents itself and its good but hes not a "split pusher"
ld is good at right clicking down both heroes and towers so you farm the fast radiance and get that phase basher on your bear and then enemy carries are mince meat
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>>162779415
Lmao what a nerd you actuaslly read patch notes get a life virgin
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>>162779415
hey i know they skill with attackspeed

but they dont scale ehp wise since they lose mag res

you SURE they still as tanky when they scale?

>>162779427
no, literally just play any rts game
fucking millenials have never played yuri or even wc3 or even what the fuck

literally they are the most fun hero when you get into micro. meepo lycan lone visage brood
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>>162779427
That's pretty much what LD does yeah, hit buildings.
The reason you'd get him over lycan is because he can be a lot safer about his pushing since he doesn't have to be that close to his summoned unit.

You definitely don't bring him for the teamfighting, that's for damn sure. All he gets for that is a gimmicky root that procs less often than spirit breaker's bash.
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>>162779585
Not him but it does seem a bit ambiguous. Maybe if they gave some examples of what gives illusions attack speed and what doesn't.
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>>162779307
Now that I look at it, Lifestealer's Talents are pretty shit. I mean come on

>+5 Stats OR +15 AS
>+200 Health OR +25 Damage
>15% Evasion OR +25 MS
>+1(ONE)s Rage Duration or +15 Armor

I don't know, if I was against an Ursa or something I'd take the 15 armor
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>>162779591
Meepo is fun as fuck when he's not immediately countered in the pick phase, although its arguably an advantage to force someone to pick ember or timbersaw who has no idea how to play said hero.
>imb4 lol everyone knows how to play timbersaw.
Some people man, some people.

>>162779585
Yeah well you're a meanie head.
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>>162778986
Read the patch notes
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>>162779659
before:
illus surely scale with agi
not raw as

now:
illus scale both with agi and raw as
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>>162779710
i mean, youre paying a skill point for an extra second of magic immunity, i think thats worth
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>>162779780
You read them for me thanks familiar
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>>162779423
Is it really that significant? It looks like it would work only in really clutch scenarios,
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>>162779591
>have never played yuri or even wc3
Jesus, there are people who don't know any RTS games besides SCII now aren't there
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>>162779710
15 evasion on a tanky melee hero actually sounds great, what do you mean.
Especially since physical damage is the main way of actually hurting him.

>>162779828
True, but 15 is also a fuck ton of armor, especially combined with AC.
Really just depends on what you're fighting and what has the highest chance of killing you I suppose.
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wtf is this
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>>162779885
how about you kys you lazy fucking faggot
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>>162779828
No. I'll never get it unless I want to throw the game. I prefer the free level 3 reactive armour stack.
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>>162779313
aw man
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Has anyone had a rapier game on monkey king?
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>>162779828
The rest of the talents are pretty meh though.
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>>162779936
Excuse me I'll have you know I've played and watched some SupCom: FA.
That counts for something right?
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>>162779998
someone here said it was the UI, but posted no proof

I'm just going by my previous performance

FX 8 core at 4ghz, pre 7.00 around 100fps no problem
Post 7.00 barley at 60fps on the lowest settings
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Ilexa is cute
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>>162779970
valve is an autistic company.

>>162779983
fuck off nigger
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>>162779936
well, sc2 came out in like 2010?
and the most nostalgia you get from games is from when you're around 10-12. (see all the kids who have nostalgia for skyrim)
so that means anyone whos <19 probably remembers sc2 the most fondly because it was new then
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>>162780020
I just won a game because mk died with rapier
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is the safelane now the offlane vise versa?
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>>162776124
>Kotl is an old man.
Ezalor long ago escaped the Fundamental plane, separating from the other ancient forces to which he was bound within the great Primordial harmony. He is a power grown sentient in the dawn of the universe, and now rides forth in all planes at once, one step ahead of pursuing chaos, bearing his gift with him at the end of a radiant staff. His majestic truth lies hidden beneath the outward appearance of a slightly doddering old man who barely stays in the saddle. However, when faced with the challenge of chaos, or the forces of darkness, his primordial light bursts forth, and his full power is revealed, transforming him once again into a force to be reckoned with.
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>>162780239
I want to punch that enchantress.
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whats the optimal talent tree for bear man

Lone Druid:
---
>Level 10: +250 Health | +200 Attack Range

>Level 15: +65 Damage | +30 Spirit Bear Damage

>Level 20: +7 Spirit Bear Armor | -50s Respawn Time

>Level 25: +1.5s Entangle Duration | -10s Savage Roar Cooldown


help me d2g
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>>162780020
yeah but it was because every enemy player was retarded and I went 37-1 by like 40 minutes, got one 2x rampage and another rampage when most went afk and I ulted their fountain
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>>162780158
yes
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How do I beat the enemy team as Lycan if their carry is Anti Mage?
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>>162780371
the entire point of talents is to pick shit depending on the game

you

fucking

retard
>>
7.01 when?
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>>162779936
>Jesus, there are people who don't know any RTS games besides SCII now aren't there
sc2 is new as fuck

everyone know thats shit ady
>>
What's the MMR range in a typical pub match? can 2ks really be put with 5ks? Or does it try to even everyone out.
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>>162780447
let him kill ur team and split push
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>>162780447
dont go necrobook
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quick,how do you build new lycan?
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how long do you think valve spent making this HUD? 5 days?
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>>162780471
cant decide on lvl 20 talent

7 bear armor or
-50s spawn time
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THE UI IS SO SUFKCING SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

THE WAY THE BAR GETS SMALLER WHEN YOU CLICK ON ENEMY WHO HAS 4 SPELLS AND YOU HAVE 6 UGHHH
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>>162780598
1 devs afternoon
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>>162780371
Savage roar cdr seems far more useful than +1.5 seconds on one of the most gimmicky mechanics in the game.
Other than that for standard LD go for the HP then spirit bear talents.
Talents are actually fucking great for LD since now those skill points actually increase his bear's effectiveness.
>>162780604
Does the spawn time reduce the cooldown on your spirit bear? Because that's the important CD right there. Typical LD is barely a hero without it.
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>>162780371
Right
Left
Right
Right
Put all your items on yourself and use the bear as a courier. Otherwise pick the reverse.
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>>162780069
Well its not as micro-heavy RTS like the classic ones mentioned, but its a fine RTS in its own.

>>162780172
RTS as a genre isn't quite as big anymore. Since 2010, are there even any good ones to come out?
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Do bloodthirst breaks AM aghs linkens ?
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>>162780719
i dont know, i dont think respawn time is very good on lone druid because your real respawn timer is actually your bear's respawn timer
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To be frank, I hope once this VA strike is over, Valve will actually re-record Monkey King with Matt Mercer. There are even some lines he made included, like when you buy Deso or Daedalus.

This one feels so fucking out of place. Monkey King sounds so generically boring it's incredible.

>>162780598
I give it two, at most, with 12 hours from each day being lunch breaks.
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>>162780371
all of that is situational except for extra root duration
dont pass up extra root duration
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>>162780576
Probably mask of madness deso echosabre ac necro
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If they don't revert UI changes or enable add "Legacy UI" option I will stop playing, it's gamebreaking for me.
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>>162780694
>Does the spawn time reduce the cooldown on your spirit bear?
no that would be hilarious

if my reading comprehension serves me right its only for your hero, not the cd on bear since it's cooldown not respawn time
anyway thanks
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>>162780371
It's situational
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>>162780896
-50s respawn time is never situational though
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>>162780797
why would a passive break ams aghs? fucking retard
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>>162780815
No because you're not using your bear. You're using yourself.
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>>162780797
Assuming you meant bloodrage, there's no reason it wouldn't work.
If you're talking about bloodrite no, but break does so if you have a silver edge that will work.
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>>162780937
haha it sure is against a PA, jugg, SF void line up xdd
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>>162780937
it is because buyback exists and respawning without bear is useless
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>>162780860
I think necro is pretty meh on him now, howl damage went from 20 to 10, and passive not giving AS anymore is a big nerf to that build.
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>>162780970
i meant bloodrage
s-sorry
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>>162780937
thissing this

>>162780853
>all of that is situational except for extra root duration
i think savage roar would be better if they got heroes that can stick up to you multiple times otherwise root all the way
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>>162781093
The bear is useless though.
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>>162781093
Keep a refresher orb in your backpack
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>>162781073
You.....

You piece of ABSOLUTE SHIT.

FUCK YOU.

I want Guinsoo back you fucking BITCH.
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>Wukong's voice lines concerning Drow and Windranger
JUST BRING THEM OUT AS LESBIAN LOVERS ALREADY, VOLVO
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>>162781093
aghs is core after rad

double you farm speed
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>>162781012
aka the LONE druid build
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>toggle between visage and familiars
>the whatever the fuck bar goes crazy and gives me motion sickness from peripheral vision

>this shit passed beta test
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>wake up
>feardarkness is streaming
what the fuck Peter? why are you forcing a old man to stream?
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>>162781221
If you think MK is bad, you should see the new spirit planned!
He'll remind you a lot of old pudge.
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>>162781209
you can just keep the refresher on LD, its not like you'll ever 13 slot yourself and items recharge half as fast in the backpack
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>>162777021
>Smite and HoN have too little exposure and not enough marketing dollars to be relevant.
HoN doesn't even have the playerbase to be relevant. And I'm in it for the RTS like elements, not 3rd person over-the-shoulder thingabobs.
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>>162777336
>multi million dollar company

kek
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>>162781332
well, he is CEO now, Fear cant exactly say no
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How much do you think icefrog had to do with the new UI?
Theres no way he was involved in that... right?
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>all these op as fuck talents for snowballing out of control
>rubick, the worst support in the game, gets awful talents

:thinking:
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>>162777540
you cant. it would be different if this were still 2 or 4 years ago but dota is too far gone at this point. league of dota is here to stay while the game slowly dies over the next 2 years probably less
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>>162781613
Free gold, cooldown reduction and cast range is bad?
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>>162781613
>+50 damage at level 10
thats pretty good senpai
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>162781613
I was going to respond but then I realized how retarded your post was, so no (You) for you bait poster.
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What if rubick aghs let him always have the talent upgraded skill regardless of what the enemy hero picked for themselves
I want to see rubick summon 11 treants
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>>162781536
ITS SO BAD, I CANT TAKE IT. I'D GIVE ANYTHING TO HAVE THE OLD ONE BACK.
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>>162768383
>>162768595
>>162768772
>>162775312
>>162775524
>>162775745
>>162778848
>>162780639
>>162780861

>>>/reddit/
valve dont read /d2g/
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>>162781834
>summon 11 treants to feed enemy team
>feed enemy team 11 treants back

alternatively
>march of the ents
>battle of the treants
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>>162781834
>Rubick gets talent upgraded familiars.
Oh boy oh boy.
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LEAGUE OF TANKY DPS: THE STORM

Hope you guys like your meta of SB, Axe, Tree, and Timbershit.
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do you like my masterpiece?
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so you get + ten (10) dmg on CM lvl 10 right? and harass the shit out of your enemy in lane?
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>>162781997
>4 of the most fun heroes in the game are now meta
yes please
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>>162782064
10 damage is like 1000 gold worth.
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>>162782064
its +50
so im gonna say yes

if it was +10 i would say absolutely fucking not

also why the fuck would you still be laning at level 10
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>>162782064
yeah,OoV+crystal nova u can harass the shit out of enemy
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>>162779106
DAZZOLATOR?
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>>162782064
>CM
>level 10
>in lane

:thinking:
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>>162782067
>tree
>axe
>fun

do you have brain damage?
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>>162782064
>>162782175
>>162782190
>>162782223
>>162782214
no you definitely do not take damage on CM
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>>162778818
not hot at all
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>>162782064
>CM lvl 10
>in lane
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>>162782064
>level 10
>in lane
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>>162782306
superior cosplayer coming through
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>>162782216
Level 25 stacking poison touch nigga, Desolator+medallion+Weave will be unstoppable
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Gyro is back?

Scepter attack interval from 1.2 to 1.1
Homing Missile now has low attack priority.
Level 10: +6% Spell Amplification OR +150 Health
Level 15: +10% Magic Resistance OR +30 Damage
Level 20: +25 Movement Speed OR 20% Cooldown Reduction
Level 25: +3 Homing Missile Charges OR +4 Flak Cannon Attacks

3 FREE MISSLES TO STUN SOMEBODY
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tdw smat enuff for enjoee for pray achsse
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>Get to pick MK
>teammates instantly salty they didnt get it, call me retarded and start shitting themselves
>just mute them on game start and wish everyone glhf, hoping they'll just play the damn game
>we got 0 stuns on our team despite me asking for any, enemies have hardcore lockdown and a dual offlane or death prophet + nyx
>shitting on me endlessly, omni sorta hangs back and either pulls when im low or does nothing
>decide to go roaming once I got my W, but this is 3k so everyone is pushing endlessly and enemies are farming under their towers, so I got fuckall to farm

>the game proceeds to be a shitfest of our sniper somehow getting relatively well farmed
>and everyone having set out to fuck me over as much as possible the entire game like breaking trees when im under then before teamfights / stealing farm etc
>very lategame i managed to farm up a bit while my team was off doing whatever, manage to keep highground for 20 more minutes just because of my ults
>even then they kept knocking me off trees right before fights

i dont know where i am going with this but this was one of the most frustrating games i've had ever and i needed to vent, thanks for reading and please subscribe i just wanna leave this trench
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>>162782463
Thank you for your contribution to this thread.
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>>162782416
omniqt is my waifu
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>>162781834
wouldn't playing Rubick get annoying with your UI changing sizes all the time if you steal double icon spells?
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>>162782446
I'd just go CD reduction with super flak and MoM or something
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>>162782534
found the axe retard
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>>162782446
seems veil gyro is icefrog approved
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>>162782446
>wants missile charges over +4 flak cannon
based retardbro
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>>162782446
Yes but when you are lvl 25 so are their carries.

>Late game Gyro
Outcarried by literally everyone.
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>pick off lane techies expecting to lose
>stomp enemy safelane and win game
dotards???
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>>162782567
Anyone remember TI3 meepo girl?
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>win a game
>think patch is good and fun
>lose a game
>think this patch ruined dota

dotards!!
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>>162783018
The best
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I cant play with this UI.

PM me when they fix it.
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wish hero names were still in the kill feed 2bh
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how do i make my ui like it was on ppd stream? when he selected something they replaced his hero at the bottom of the screen, i want that
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Casual shit game. Hope icefraud enjoys the move towards pure teamfighting and fast paced shit rather than the important strategic elements that used to be so important
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>>162780158
https://www.f-list.net/c/ilexa/
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>>162783202
sent :^)
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>>162774104

source please, can't find it
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>>162783018
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Why does the in-game HUD have such a drastically different design from the Reborn Panorama menus?

Reborn was almost a disaster at first from the bugs, but who actually dislikes the current main menu? It's one of the best menus for a game I have ever seen in my life. It's clean and structured with a dignified high fantasy theme that looks great in screenshots without being distracting. It makes gentle, conservative use of visual effects and animations that help guide your eye along to relevant content but don't pop out in your face. It's always available even in-game without killing performance. It really feels like a hub to manage your pub memeing career from instead of some awkward bullshit to fumble through on the way to the game. Valve went through the trouble to make an entire fucking software framework to replace the hacky Flash garbage they settled for just to make sure it was what they wanted out of a rework.

And after that, THEY MAKE THIS FUCKING ABOMINATION? I can't even play more than one game without getting a headache. I don't mean I'm annoyed, though that is also true; I mean my head actually fucking hurts from all of the pointless animations popping in my face. The layout of all the content is completely random and haphazard like it were an afterthought. I haven't spend this much time coping with an ugly game UI since I owned a PS2.

Did they do it just to torture us?
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what if dota 2 was a hot gril
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guys i miss ti3
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>>162783469
thats it
heres a xboct cosplay
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>>162783496
>with a dignified high fantasy theme
?
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>>162783496
This. It's an eyesore in the literal sense. So bad.
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>>162783469
me on the left
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>>162783506
League would be a hot grill.
Doba Tu would be Daria.
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>>162784054
but Daria is a hot grill
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>>162777540
Still wondering when the 3rd party servers will be out
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>New Tree

Okay this shit is too much fun.
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>>162784113
I but you think Meg is hot too.
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>>162783706
You can see textures meant to resemble stone and fabric on UI elements. The default background is a subtle animation of rising ashes and the Dota logo in the top left corner of the home screen glows with embers like it were tanned into leather. It's classic medieval fantasy iconography that gives the game character without being tasteless or distracting.

Meanwhile, the new HUD: jagged edges are fantasy right lol?
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>>162784119
>Bash someone.
>Walk away
>Come back with invis
>Bash again
For practical purposes I'd rather have his old guise where he could use it on allies (also the tree search range is short as fuck now, or maybe that's shorter delay) but fuck me if it isn't hilarious being an annoying little shit.
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>>162784309
Yeah that's the thing. I can almost say old Guise was a better spell, but this new Guise is just pure asshole in PASSIVE form.
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>>162784405
I mean, its still a great scouting tool, you just can't use it on allies anymore is the main issue. More of a sidegrade honestly.
And hell carry treant might actually be viable now.
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WHY HAVENT THEY FUCKING MADE IT SO SLARK PURGE ONLY FUCKING WORKS FOR THE FIRST TICK
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>UI still garbage
>FPS issues still not fixed

part of me thinks these too are related
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>>162784309
it'd be pretty funny to plant a tree right next to them and bash them with that one too
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>>162784534
Oh no you have to time your abilities on a spell with a set duration oh the horror.

>>162784625
So singsing strats of grabbing five iron branches and creeping to the teamfight.
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Alright heroes to spam for 7.00

Timber: cut trees kill Monkey KANG, pretty much self-explanatory
Monkey KANG: Earthshaker with PA/Ursa damage output level. Spam him before they nerf the nigga.
Treant: be a fucking asshole and bash people
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>>162784660
TOO BAD THE PURGE LINGERS AFTER THE EFFECT FUCKING RETARD

FAGGOT APOLOGIST
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>>162784534
>why haven't they completely gutted a hero who's an occasional blip on the radar in pro dota and only barely scoots past 50
Probably the same reason why they're going to barely touch wukong, if they nerf him at all.
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>>162784534
purge the purge and you are fine
dont let slark have his way with you
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>>162784843
>gut

Hope your dad doesn't wake up tomorrow, retard
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>>162784309
>>162784405
This is what bugs me about the lane changes, especially the shrines. They gave us some of the best offlane abilities ever while basically taking away our offlanes.

I know change is good for the meta (assuming 5-core shitters aren't pandered to) and the retard proof levels and gold will get nerfed later, but it still sucks knowing how much fun it could have been in 6.88. Solohard is the most fun role.
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>>162784843
Slark is fine where he is because he punishes bad play, MK needs a nerf because he can kill you level 1 without you being a retard.
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ppd is strimming
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>>162768365
>1 character should literally be able to carry on all circumstances no matter what
>When it comes down to it, there needs to be one hero who is literally the equivalent of just winning
Literally how do you defend this line of reasoning, you complete fucking retard
>>
wait is RTZ the one streaming on Fear's stream? or does Fear just sound like RTZ?
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>>162784692
>Visage
>Local Hero is Fucking Invincible
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>>162785252
fear sounds like RTZ sorta
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So is this the official EG 4chan thread then? We being astroturfed or something? Nobody ever gave a shit about alex garfield so why do we care about their new CEO?
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>2011: Just ward his jungle!
>2016: Just chop his trees!

I love monkey king, he represents everything that was good about dota before icefrog decided team fighting and ganking are the only important gameplay mechanics.
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>>162785335
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>>162785084
Poor bait
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>>162783469
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>>162784959
>implying that wouldn't gut the fucking thing
I keep noticing that the only people who bitch about slark are scrubs who never played him.
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How is Bounty Hunter after the patch?
Surely Track is amazing with all these fights.
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>>162785084
>Level 1
>Letting a hero get 8 hits on you level 1 for a kill.
>Who you know has a steroid.
>You're somehow not the retard here.
Level TWO makes a lot more sense to me.
He hits like a truck but what really gives him kill potential is the fact that boundless strike hits like a semi with jingu.
Jingu isn't what needs to be nerfed, its the fact that you get the full 200% crit from level 1 of a skill with the only thing scaling is the stun. Its way too good synergized with his jingu and its crit damage should scale UP to 200% at level four, with something like 125% at level 1.
That way he still has his kill potential but he's not hitting for 500 damage at level five.
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>>162785704
He's pretty great as always, all these runes and shit make it easier to roam on anything than ever
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>>162769986
got two of these during the chinese new year event last year.
Sold one for $120
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>>162785636
The initial purge is all that matters, shitter
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>>162784180
Meg is pretty hot.
I mean that's Mila Kunis' voice, right?
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>>162785704
>+100 damage level 20 on a hero with GUARANTEED CRIT
>-5 seconds to jinada puts it to 1 second cooldown.
>225 bonus damage every single second, not counting your actual attack damage crit.
Carry BH is back with a fucking vengeance I'll tell you what.
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fuck aquila to yasha jugg...pms-brown boots to bf and farm like a madman so freaking fast holy shit you get your money back in no time.give me a reason to skip it even if you are behind i feel like the only way to come back is bf
>>
>he isn't playing supports right now for LITERALLY FREE mmr right now

laughingwhores.jpg
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>>162785829
But clearly its not by your logic because you keep complaining about it purging after because you're shit at timing.

>>162785971
>Implying my favorite hero in the entire game isn't a support hero.
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>>162785636
his entire fucking playstyle of roaming has been made piss easy to do by the existence of 4 bounty runes, shrines, and easy to invade jungles. i hate it so much
hes very good though
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>>162786025
CM BEST PURE SLUT
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>>162786025
i was playing support a lot before, but holy shit being able to make a difference 5 minutes into the game and grabbing aghs in 25 minutes as a position 5 is fucking awesome
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>>162786064
>Implying I would play an immobile sandbag who's best contribution in a fight is to farm up a 2k gold item who doesn't even provide anything useful for her other than for her to be able to blink in and die so that the actual heroes in the game aren't focused.
Bitch please. If I wanted that I'd play league.
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>>162785934
>brown boots to bf
>brown boots straight to BF
>brown
>boots
STOP
>>
farming is so dumb and useless now
>>
Why is omniknight still not nerfed?
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>>162786235
this made me stop playing this patch. fuck fighting, so fucking boring.
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>>162785934
fed two time in lane(monkey+bh+dazzle rotation yaaay) so i was fuck it and went bf...in the end i got carried but i was farming good so had fun

>>162786160
cant argue with that reasoning
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>>162786285
Because diffusal is still an item that exists despite it being nerfed.
His winrate dropped 5% this patch regardless.
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>>162785829
Then why are we having this discussion?
You're retarded.
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>>162786285
>icefrog develops an entirely new system and puts it into dota just so that he can buff omni to bkb spell
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>>162786235
You still get more gold farming than fighting.
otheriwse you will end up lv 20 with only 3 real items.
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>tfw waking up to sing strim
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>>162786323
>Fighting is boring
>Farming isn't
Does not compute.
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If I were working for Valve, I'd bring out the updates and balance patches as slowly as possible. It makes no sense from a business standpoint to gut MK as soon as they've brought him out, esp since they're selling the total MK package for 50 dollars(?)

The performance patch should be priority number 1, so that the poor 3rd worlders can run Dota on their shitboxes again.
>>
>>162786497
Dogs are cute.
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>>162786153
>B-UT BUT 55% WIN RATE
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>>162786235
>>162786323
fuck you pooftas
farming is an abomination
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>>162786501
If I wanted memefight, I'd play another moba. Farming is incredibly fun, and doesn't require you to rely on potentially retarded teammates fucking up fights.
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>>162786578
She has that winrate because depsite her lack of potential she's incredibly difficult to use and contribute nothing in a game due to her ult making her a massive red target.

Now THIS, THIS is a proper support.
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>>162786716
yeah, i agree with you a little bit

the knowledge of farming patterns, jungling techniques is now literally useless, the only thing you need to remember is when bounty runes spawn
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>>162785704
BH is so much stronger, his new aghanims seems like a bit of a gimmick but its his talent tree that is insane.
+15% exp gain?
+40 attack speed?
+100 damage!?
1 second cooldown on jinada strike???
Plus all the new runes and constant team fights make him a legit carry
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>>162786812
>the knowledge of farming patterns
akka somthing that takes you 1 day to master.
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>>162786838
>Someone in the developer team legitimately thought people would take 20% evasion on a squishy as fuck hero over 1 second CD jinada.
Oh I'm a laffin.
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>>162786235
>Reduced jungle creep XP/Gold by ALOT
>Reduced lane creep XP/Gold by a little
>made the pull camp the weak ez camp
>Rework half the carries so they can't 1v5 at endgame levels

Volvo hates the rice meta because it's not fun to watch, so they slowly nerfed it into the ground over the past 5 years.

If you aren't ganking or pushing in 2016, you're a detriment to your team.
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Hey
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>>162786864
easy to remember, but hard to master and do well while dealing with enemies
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>>162787060
delete this
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>>162787060
*Bashes you*
*Bashes you again 0.75 secods later*
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>>162786812
>the knowledge of farming patterns, jungling techniques is now literally useless
That's my point! Pos 1 and lane support skills are totally worthless now.

>>162786864
Lolno. Sure, the mechanics are not complex, but doing that along with good map awareness and decision-making is far from a trivial skill.
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>>162787073
> but hard to master and do well while dealing with enemies
mastering the patterns is not hard, at the end what matters is the decicion of where to farm according to enemy position and that still exist and will need more tought since you also have a run and half the camps re on low ground.
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>easiest stomp of my life as spec
>lmao crash
>safe to leave, not counted

VALVEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Shrines ability becomes available to use outside of the base once creeps spawn at 0:00.
this should not be a thing, they should start on CD at least
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>>162787218
lane support isn't useless at all. if anything it's way more important because you need to set up attacks or defend properly.
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>>162777737
Why does PSG always disappear when OG is the best team in the world?
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>>162786376
but you can only dispel GA now with Diffusal
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>>162786497
>tfw waking up to Adelaide?
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>>162787276
what's the issue? i love offlaning, getting hit down to 100 health at minute zero, and then going to the shrine to heal to full.
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>Have officially lost 8/10 games on 7.00

Not having a good time on this patch lads, why does the enemy now get power ups that make it easier to win when they're ahead? What sense does giving the fed axe free vitality boosters and 25hp regen when he's already unkillable?
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>>162786497
>>162787431
>tfw waking up to crippling depression and suicidal emotions
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>>162787431
adelaide
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>>162787465
it is your fault bro
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First game with mankey, should I buy arcana and win games?
Or is everyone gonna learn how to counter him within the next few days?
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>>162787451
delete this!
>>
now that we have wukong whats the next champ dota should port over?
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>>162787465
>e it easier to win when they're ahead?
becasue everytime they try to go highground just becasue they are lv20 with no real farm and get killed becasue shrines make it easy to get revange kills.
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>>162787573
If they haven't learned to counter him by now, they won't until they watch/read some shitty guide on how to do so. Enjoy your FREE MMR while it lasts.
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>>162787725
jayce desu
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>>162787725
Some sort of frog based hero is my vote
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>>162787725
this may help you dotards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOPRecEjtvw
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>>162787725
Annie or that Hatsune Miku hero
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>>162766328
Don't speak to me or my wife's son ever again
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>>162786025
>>162786426
>I don't want to have to think about using a purge

EPIC REALLY NEEDED LOWER SKILL CAP SHIT XD

Really hopin' your faggot family dies rn
>>162787725
Car hero
>>
So, I have a GT 740, with a shitty dual core AMD Athlon. That means if I used the OpenGL my PC would fry, right?
>>
>>162787768
People are already countering him.
The issue of course is that he leaves a lot of room for just straight-up outplaying someone. People are playing him right now and dominating....and they aren't even familiar enough with the new map to make full use of his abilities.
Wanna know how people won't notice your disguise, even IF they fucking spot you? Turn into a tree in another tree.
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>>162786734

This

>Healing has multiple uses
>artic burn has multiple uses
>all her skills combo well with support based items
>truly effective backliner
>can push and defend hard.
>all skills punish those who gang up and group.
>only major weaknesses is shes slow and miscommunication is deadly

Feels good playing auroth man.
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>>162788094
But you don't want to have to think about using a stun on ONE specific hero, who when stunned dies like a fly.
Also took you a while to respond, were you struggling to form a response? I mean, you're complaining about slark so I can't expect much clearly.
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>>162787725
If you mean some legendary creature or god, shouldn't we get Thor or Odin next?
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So I'm in demo mode right, I pick Windranger give her lvl 25, powershot lvl 4, it says with damage amp and shit it does 500 damage, and it still doesnt one shot ranged creeps that supposedly have 300 HP

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
>>
>/d2g/ suddenly hate PPD

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED????
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>>162788094
So your issue isn't that it actually makes him better, just that it makes him easier to play?

I've got a great idea. Make auto attack impossible to turn off again. It's making this game too easy to play.

>Really hopin' your faggot family dies rn
Really hope they put you in a home with the other retards.
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>>162788330
>suddenly

how new?
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>>162787768
I think you're right anon, gonna have atleast a month or so until people start turning to google.
buying dat arcana now
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>>162788247
>hurr fuckinggg durrrr lets have a low skill cap high impact spell hur dude I'm shit at the game
The purge effect lingers after the effect
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>insta pick le mankey king
>enemy team pick ursa and beastmaster
>still win easily
LOL! (:
>>
this game was best in 2014
I miss lina and pl
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>>162788153
You forgot the best part.
>Best scaling support in the game since three of her abilities scale directly with either physical damage of the enemy, hp, or both.
>Can transition into a flying turret with aghs bloodthorn.
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>>162788309
Read the tooltip of powershot again
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>>162788416
>2014

2012-2013*
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>>162787969
>>162787976
God I wish dota would have just like, ONE pedobait animeshit waifu hero. Just give me one inexplicably powerful 11 year old or a cute girl version of whatever they call their gnome/dwarves
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Why do support heroes get massive damage bonus talents?
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>>162788409
Wow fast response this time, you ok anon?
I could do that to but I don't want to hurt your feelings. You seem the sensitive type.
>>
ra the sun god when
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>>162788276
Thor against Zeus mid
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>>162788513
lich is a carry
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>>162788513
so they can be useful lategame before get obliterated in 3 hits by the enmy carry.
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>tfw no waifu hero

I miss Soe
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>>162788512
yordles
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>>162788691
But their usefulness comes from their abilities, not their basic attacks.
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>>162788480
wOW CREEPS INCLUDED? WHAT A SHIT SPELL
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>>162788513
honeypot talent to shibboleth the shitters
>>
Is there anything I can do in options to make the controls feel less shit and slow? I'm guessing not.
>>
FEAR STREAMING I REPEAT FEAR STREAMING
>>
>LITERALLY EVERY ORGANIZATION IS MORE ABOUT THE PLAYERS THAN PUPPEY'S SCAM SHIT

TOP
FUCKING
KEK
>>
>losing game
>servers are top health
>winning game
>servers shit themselves, game is safe to leave

explain this doturds
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>>162788773
well with the talent they will get usefulness from their attacks as well
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>>162788767
>goes to work with blizzard at overwatch
>like a week later everyone in competitive overwatch is calling blizzard shit, even they are stating to think blizzard is going to kill the esport scene

hmmm really makes you think
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>>162788773
50 damage on a support that attacks at most twice on 1 sec barely makes a difference.
the talents make those skills better or help them survive or being able to cast them more safer.
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>>162788823
mouse sensitivity > High
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>>162788429
>bloodthorn

Better answer is aghs + dragon lance or aghs hurricanepike. Remember you have hp removal that stacks with aghs, your best bet is attack speed and range.
>>162788513
Because a lot of carries gets magic resistance.
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>>162788771
no the dota small ones
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>>162788928
>>like a week later everyone in competitive overwatch is calling blizzard shit
please drama me
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I have reached level 20!
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>>162788918
But that defeats the point of differentiating heroes into roles to begin with. Why would they give them proficiency outside of their role instead of similarly scaled bonuses to their abilities?
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>>162788910
Gladly.

Somebody on the opposing team is abusing the illusion crash to get themselves out of a loss. You should probably follow suit, or just stop playing until they fix it.
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>>162788691
>Hero doesnt scale well in endgame
>Better pick good carries or win fast
>7.00: who cares everyone scales in lategame now
>and lategame is 30mins :^)

This is not mere casualization, but litereally dumbing down and removing team building strategy.

Talents were icefrogs first mistake of his career
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>>162788989
good joke
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>>162789134
I was the one that bought manta and I remember it crashed a bit after I used it the first time

Are you jokin with this manta shit because it could have been my fault
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>>162789015
Oh pike before hands down, not trying to say to grab anying other than aghs before that by any means.
Poor wording, still funny as fuck how a hero with so much utility can turn into CC sniper.
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>>162789040
goblins
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>>162789162
talents bring a way to balance heroes in a more individual level.
They dont become jack of all trades late game, they become better at doing their thing without losing functionality.
BH is an excellent example, where his kit falls so hard late game he doesnt even try to use jinada. Now he can have a use for jinada until really late game.
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>>162788969
also makes last hitting super duper easy
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>>162789257
Not joking. Don't play illusion heroes unless you are expecting a loss.
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>>162789402
but am and PL are fun
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>>162789162
>Simple stat bonus is changed to several available options for varying builds.
>This is somehow casualizing the game.
You are actually retarded, and you might want to seek therapy.
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>>162789513
>he's not playing linkens aghs antimage
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>>162789289
its was the keens i was thinking of looked it up
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>>162789586
Where's your lotus orb
>>
>>162789586
>linkens AND AGHS
t.3k shitter that does no damage.
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>>162786734
>She has that winrate because depsite her lack of potential she's incredibly difficult to use and contribute nothing in a game due to her ult making her a massive red target.
That doesn't even make any sense. How does lacking potential and being difficult to use and contributing nothing to a game give her a 55% win rate?

Anyway, if you think free +3.0 mana regen for entire team and 3 second root every 6 seconds (plus magic damage) doesn't contribute anything then you are probably just trash at the hero. It's ok, there's a lot of different heroes and many of them need different approaches and play styles to get anything out of them.
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>>162788928
she literally moved to her new job yesterday.
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>>162789636
on my pos3, I need slots to actually hit buildings
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>>162789263
Well all her range implied she was support sniper anyway.

How to improve her talent tree is simple.
Replace intelligence for small attack or cast range buff, lvl 25 should apply artic burn slow to all enemies hit by ult when it ends instead of the +15% slow.
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>>162786734
WW is a fuckign autoloss garbage hero. Kill yourself shitter.
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>>162789103
>age 8
>>
holy shit lone druid is pretty fun
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>>162787573
>monkey uses ult by accident or something
>like a fucking big black hole my teammates start running into the dam thing
>they die one by one
>they flame each other for playing bad
>they start flaming me for not helping
I cant understand how people can be so retarded in this game
I'm bad because of slow reactions but good enough because im using my brain
meanwhile i get to play with people from time to time who wouldn't be able to cut down a tree playing timbersaw....
and its always 3-4 tards or no tards at all
fucking hell
>>
huh does anyone else think that there's now TOO much to do in this game?
>>
>>162789865
Also available as a teen, a toddler or an adult.
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>>162789865
its not like shes human
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>>162789756
Shes only autoloss when you are garbage and dont communicate.
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now look at this net

that i just found
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>want to play support
>4 carries
>all have 2 items at 40 minutes because they can't farm

How do I stop this from happening?
>>
>>162790051
You cant.
>>
so now that the dust has settled what is the free mmr heros right now?
>>
>>162785706
You're not considering every factor. MK has TWICE the attack range of every other melee hero in the game. Even Tiny with Aghs falls short. This means his right clicks will land on an enemy hero if they are up to SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY units away as long as the attack animation starts. Even if his lane opponent is in position, he can get just close enough to kite the poor bastard about until he lands 4 hits and can go ham. This doesn't mean he is guaranteed to kill you, but it does mean that he can keep you totally out of XP range during laning if you are a melee hero, and even ranged heroes can have a hard time pushing him out, especially since he benefits fully from quell and damage block items.

PA's daggers were nerfed for a reason.
>>
>>162790157
Well that's not very fair if I know how to do my job and they don't. Those losses go on MY permanent record
>>
>>162790163
>MK has TWICE the attack range of every other melee hero in the game

a very nice ebin meme
>>
visage item progression assuming that enemy team is physical heavy?
medal - midas - tranquil - atos/solar crest - aghs - cuirass - shiva?
>>
So when is monkey king gonna be nerfed to hell? I really dont want to keep playing against him for the next few months.
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>>162790051
carry that shit
>>
>>162789519
Pumping stats was a build some heroes chose to survive early game and last hit better.

What strategy does talents add to dota?
>>
>>162790225
>>162790225
>>162790225
When I say go, be ready to throw
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>>162790219
Life isnt fair and not all are created equal.
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>>162788928
blizzard will ruin that game, i feel bad for the people that bought it but they always fuck up the balance and it looks like is going to be like that in every game
>>
>>162790381
Why keep making new threads so early when it's slow as fuck? Are you that desperate for everyone to see you shit memes?
>>
>>162790339
Inherently more since now everyone can choose a talent, pumping stat was highly "inbalanced" as in Morphling and Jugg got way more out of it than Crystal Maiden

and I don't get what fucking hard on you trash heaps have over +2 stats, the talents are also more fun. Though the gold and XP shit is wildly imbalanced
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>>162790276
>midas
???
Other than that yes
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>no patch today
I die a little inside
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>>162790634
There was a 68MB patch
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>>162790381
>not dota related op pic
>30 memes early
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>>162790689
>Added support for ability ID's for Talents to be used in stuff like match data and etc.
>>
>>162790531
midas provides faster levels and double gibsmedat doter shekels when paired with the lvl 15 60gpm talent, bretty good so far for me.
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>>162790791
>releases a patch that crashes instantly on mac and linux

Does valve really use the botnet
>>
>>162790830
>gpm talent
You only need 2 items before you start falling off. Get the xpm talent at 10 and then kill and push to end early with your power.
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>>162790467
Talents are a great concept, but most of the bonuses are pretty lame.
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>>162788802
Yeah she really needed a nerf after her amazing 42% win rate across all MMR ranges last patch.
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>>162791017
Are "we" pretending 2+ stats wasn't more lame?
>>
FYI: I see a lot of people think this

SNIPERS AGHS UPGRADE DOES LESS DAMAGE.

YOU KNOW LONGER USE ASSASSINATE ON PEOPLE, IT'S A GUARANTEED CRIT AUTO ATTACK FOR 280% DAMAGE, WITH A HEADSHOT.

IT MORE DAMAGE IF YOU HAVE DAMAGE ITEMS, BUT RUSHING AGHS ON SNIPER ULTIMATELY MAKES YOU DEAL LESS DAMAGE TO A SINGLE TARGET.
>>
>>162791071
I really want to lick her belly
>>
>team spends early - mid game making space for tb
>tb gets midas into skadi with brown boots
>45 minutes has midas, skadi, manta, pms and brown boots

I want to cry
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>>162791112
lewd
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>>162790979
yeah it was the lvl 10 talent my bad. ill try going for the xpm path later and see how it goes. thanks
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>>162791158
>midas terrorblade
kek
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I need Slardar in my boipucci.

NOW
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>>162791362
slark?
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>>162791071
how do we fix the redhead dotards?
>>
>170MB PATCH
>RIGHT NOW
WUT
>>
>>162790467
+2 stats actually changed how some heroes play during early game. Talents are just bonuses which, when combined with the new fast XP gains, are barely noticable.

Also you had to sacrifice abilities to get +stats. Talents are free at 15, 20, and 25.
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>>162791362
>Valve changing everything from an innocent cartoony style to making everything look mature.
He still needed a remodel though.
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>>162791545
>+2 stats actually changed how some heroes play during early game. Talents are just bonuses which, when combined with the new fast XP gains, are barely noticable.
cogntive dissonance harder m8
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>>162773489
>free rapier
>shitty hero
>>
>>162781373
sauce?
>>
>>162768158
can someone draw her putting that monkey king bar up her ass
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>>162772070
>centaur
>evasion
>>
>>162791541
Evidently take the game away from icefraud, since he baffingly felt she was too strong.
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