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/nosg/ - nostalrius general

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Ya boy asmongold edition

>What's happening?
Everyone is waiting for nost2.0 which will be hosted by Valkyrie and run by the original Nost team. We're currently waiting on server release.

>When is the release?
December 17th, (18:00 GMT+1/12PM EST) for the OLD server. 3-4 weeks after the NEW server will be released which we will be playing on.

>OLD NOST PvP and PvE(Name: Nostalrius PvP/Nostalrius PvP)
These will have all your old level 60 chars for nostalgia's sake. Will be released on Dec 17. (No one will roll here)

>NEW NOST PvP (Name: Elysium PvP)
Brand new server, will be released 3-4 weeks after old nost. (We will be rolling here.)

>What faction are we rolling?

Horde discord: https://discord.gg/WPF7uMP

Alliance discord: https://discord.gg/tZZ6Qg


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>Server homepage
https://elysium-project.org/
>Vanilla WoW database
http://db.vanillagaming.org
>Leveling Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Z2vplxWZACKmCpw1B8vexKQ2vwjRqFRjcJhHjAxxJg/edit
>Nos Pre-Bis
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j81TgG0p_HrYKajiUiQfYIoSUx1culzy2u_Fc4wtiS8/edit#gid=329725463
>Leveling Specs
http://imgur.com/a/aNm8V#0
>Big Addon Pack
http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/3573-vanilla-112-addons-download/

tags: wpsg vag wowg world of warcraft

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Dark Lady watch over you.
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>>162755290
Not until he's dead

>>162755556
You'd better
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ANIME
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Xth for reminder based yarrick will raidlead the horde guild on new nost along with aspergerlord and BWG
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friendly reminder to message one these people for an invite to alliance discord.

Infamy#5916
qlurf#6906
Erlik#4852
crabs#3732
Rhox#4284
Notmadti#7077
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Assume you were living in Azeroth

What zone do you think you would settle in? Also think about each zones problems/flavors such as food, conflicts in the area, culture etc
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Are there any actually fun tanks in vanilla?
Last time I played nost I played warrior and was bored to tears, and went back to play WoD
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>its a you used your token on an unverified account and you never get your verification email episode
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>>162756089
here is a taste of what the alliance guild is like
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>>162756089
>tfw im on that roster 3 times
>tfw all of those are spy accounts and i wont even roll on there
>yfw the horde roster is 3x this size
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>>162756169

Just be yourself :)
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>>162756048
Santa Clause here, you better stop

or ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>162756221
probably more fun than the horde guild if it's anything like horde retail
I'll take degenerates over teenagers pretending to be mormon any day
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>>162756127
Dun Morogh.
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>>162755976
dude are UDs biggest cucks? They are dead humans ruled by dead elf. What the fuck is this shit?
I always wanted to belive that UDs are the Scourge, not some fucking gay rebels.
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>>162756221
God i remember when that 'meme' came out. can we all agree /krog/ had the shittiest memes? Even shittier than nosg desu
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are you excited for nost?
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thinking about making an orc hunter
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no fun allowed was best guild
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I got to meet him this morning but he was afk and didn't respond but still it was nice to see someone from here.
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If you could only use 3 add-ons from now on, what would they be?
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>>162756317
Enjoy the constant "girl ecks dee" drama you dumb nigger. Ironically, nihilum was full of underage kids
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>>162756398
YES I AM ARE YOU EXCITED FOR NOST?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTLLVZXIowc
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>>162756571
Okay I will
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>>162755619
It's literally 2 pm in America.
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>>162756089

Is this on the old PvP or the new PvP?
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>>162756089
Im going to make my own guild with blackjack and hookers.
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>>162756368
one good thing about /nosg/ is it never really had a consistent raid guild. all of the shit originates from /vg/ guilds. alliance /vg/ guilds especially, at least the horde guilds can be friendly without the cancerous shit.
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>>162756437
That was my idea. Don't be rude. I'll let you be a female orc hunter if you want, but only if you roleplay as my wife.
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>>162756553
damagemeters, dpsmate, swstats

gotta make sure I'm at the top
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>>162756702
New.
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Ok rogue , ok mage, ok whatever BUT how the fuck is warrior the most popular class? What the fuck seriously? Why? So boring class the most popular??

Is there explanation for this fucking phenomenon?
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>>162756553
a damage meter, threat meter, and superinspect
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>>162756838
Lowest skill ceiling.
Easiest to find a dungeon group.
Strong in pvp.
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>>162756702
Old
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>>162756740
I've been in the salty dogs discord for a new weeks now and if you arent part of their 'clique' you're gonna get told to shut up and fuck off. Its why i keep quiet. Its sad tbqh because some guys in there are nice people but they get overshadowed by obnoxious attentionwhores. So yea there are shit horde guilds too.
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>>162756838
It's a culture thing maybe. Think about all the films and books featuring warriors as main characters.
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>>162756351
Get slaughtered and raised as an undead army for the Lich King, break free from his chains,Band under the only living former high ranking member of the living hoping to rejoin the Alliance but the humans are too brainwashed by the Scarlet Crusade to accept those that regained their own will. Forced to live in exile forever forsaken by your undeath. The Horde sees potential and is in need of a stronghold on the Eastern Kingdom recruit the forsaken into their ranks. If only the humans weren't so fucking stupid this would have ended well for the poor Forsaken.
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>AQ available at launch fags getting BTFO

fucking kek
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>>162756838
it's sort of the default class and the go-to for a lot of people when they're not sure what to roll. then they're the only viable tanks + you can use fury in pve.
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Come in HQ!
I've confirmed enemy presence with my Eagle Eye!
Proceeding to rendevouz point and laying my trap with a Goburin Land Mine on top of it!

Permission to use Aimed Shot and get a crit on the dumb idiot warlock, over!
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>Could use a single email for all my accounts on Nost.

>Only 1 account per email on Elysium.

Rip all those characters, I just can't be fucked.
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>>162756695
>America is one big time zone
okay bro
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>>162757107
FIRE
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>>162755962
>When AQ comes around even the best PvP gear will be obsolete. You gotta do it if you want to be competitive.
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>Warlocks also have to get shadow resist gear as well so they're able to tank Vek'Lor

Guess I should just give up then, I just wanted to PvP. Maybe I should reroll on the fresh server, I'll have more time there.
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>>162757187
It has 3 major timezones

Work isn't over in any of them.
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>>162756740
This >>162756971
can confirm that the horde discord is basically be a well known memer or shut the fuck up and only laugh at other peoples shitty memes. I'm hoping it'l change when servers hit live but right now discord has already been set in a pattern of the same names, the same memes, all day everyday and anyone new eventually just gets pushed aside or ignored outright.

Thing is alliance guild has an awful reputation from when they ran /krog/ it seems like joining a vg guild might just be a stupid decision unless you enjoy pandering to people to get anywhere.
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>>162757376
Yeah i mean ive just joined the discord in the OP and the memeing seems pretty calm,granted they still talk about mobas but theres actual discussion happening here
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If I have a girlfriend, a social life, a job, and DJ on weekends, is there any chance I'm actually going to enjoy vanilla?

As the drop gets closer, I'm growing more and more aware how little time I'll have to hardcore devote myself and I hear that's what vanilla is all about.
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>All these salty horde cucks talking shit about ret
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>>162756971
>not part of glastons clique
>a literal who to most people here
>talk to everyone just fine and have never been told to "shut the fuck up" because im not part of glastons clique
in this entire discord the only person thats obnoxious is grimlic
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>>162757523
No you need to give up atleast three of those things.
Not even memeing.
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>>162757523
You can totally enjoy vanilla if you live an active life. You just can't quite keep up with everyone else.
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Day 3, I've successfully infiltrated the gnomes, they've finally accepted me as one of their own. Time to set my plan in motion.
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>>162757569
don't forget snack
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>>162757569
There is no 'glastons clique' because glaston is never fucking on. His fagbuddy chicken took like 30 mins to ban that nigger anoka too. Not to mention theres still snack who literally ignores other people in convos and makes 'funny memes' . Guilds fucking doomed buddy.
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>>162757054
Have fun playing nothing during the comfy Christmas holidays freshfag
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>>162757523
>is there any chance I'm actually going to enjoy vanilla?
yes. it's an mmo, there's no objective.
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>>162757695
>sergeant
That guy used to be servers best Field Marshal rogue, what happend?
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This is indisputably the best 5-man composition for leveling through the whole game with as a group.

>Tank - Warrior
>Support - Shaman
>Healer - Priest
>DPS - Rogue
>DPS - Mage

The Armour requirements are spread out over all plate, mail, leather and cloth so that there is the minimum conflict when rolling for loot.

Mage utility like portals and conjure food are great and combined with rogue's sap we have at least 2 CC. Rogue lock-pick is good to have as is Shaman's reincarnation incase the whole group wipes.

Although I would like to have it so that the DPS are both either ranged or melee so they could benefit from the same shaman totem. But I suppose the only way to do that while fulfilling the armor loot constraint would be to replace the rogue with a balance druid.

What do you guys think?
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>>162756838
best tank, best dps, presses a lot of buttons in pve (this matters to some people)
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>>162757749
>>162757569
>tfw 2/3rds of the autistic trifecta (grimlic,anoka) cant be obnoxious attentionwhores anymore

Now we just need to bully snack out again like we did last time. Maybe talk about his family or something? Anyone got ideas?
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>>162757918
He messed with the wrong person.
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>>162757523
you dont need a bunch of time to enjoy vanilla, you just wont be like server first 60 or w/e, which isn't exactly a big deal
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>>162757523
>I'm actually going to enjoy vanilla?

Depends on who you play with mate. Solo MMOs aren't much fun. It's why Legion is such SHIT.
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>>162757827
>the guild is doomed because glaston is never on when he isn't a leader anyways
>the guild is doomed because a mod took too long to ban someone
>the guild is doomed because someone spams the discord with his memes
not an argument. the original post was about how you can't even speak in that discord unless you're part of the clique. i post all the time and i'm a literal who.
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>>162757523

You'll be fine, dood.
It's very easy to find pugs for Molten Core, Onyxia and Zul'Gurub. But you won't get beyond that if you can't dedicate the time.
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?

Anoka is based though
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>>162756089
what's crabs actually like?
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>>162757920
make sham your healer and replace priest with warlock
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>>162757523
You'll literally have endless content. NEETs cap out quick and raidlog within 1-2months of a server, normies always have a goal to work towards
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>>162757920
this is vanilla, the warrior and shaman will be rolling on rogue loot too
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>>162757107
>>162757209
cute!
please don't gank me mrs master hunter >. <
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>>162758034
Relax, its just an observation. These guys obviously know eachother a while (just like the ally nihilum clique) just wish theyd be a bit nicer to everyone.
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>>162757000
They're all traumatized psychos. I wouldn't trust the zombie scum. Put them out of their misery with a swift death I say!
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>>162756838
Warrior and Rogue are the only melee classes in Vanilla. It's why they're so popular.

Also if you play Rogue that means you unironically have the gay.
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>>162758141
Soothing voice, friendly fella, fucks ugly chicks so his friend can score with a hottie, best warrior I've seen
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>>162758074
AQ20 is pretty easy too, isn't it?
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>>162758074
>>162757984
>>162757972
>>162757848
>>162757649
>>162757625

Thanks for the responses. I imagine raiding will be very hard, but what about grinding honor and PVP? I imagine that is much easier since I won't need to stick to a strict raid schedule or meet mandatory guild requirements?
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>>162758380

Just be yourself :)
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>>162758142

This. The utility of warlock like soulstone and summoning is too good.
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>>162758197
dude i have no life and am in the discord for like 18 hours a day. i have never seen anyone from the glaston clique be a dick to someone that wasn't in the clique for no reason. if you want the opinion of someone whos not a crybaby and trying to push a personal agenda i think that the salty dogs core is full of pretty nice and personable people, snack is really annoying at times but hes still super nice.
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are professions even worth the time investment at the start of the fresh server? the only thing that even remotely makes sense is skinning, fishing, cooking, and first aid.
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>>162758380
>grinding honor

Honor farming isn't a thing in Vanilla like it is on live. Only people with no job can actually get anything out of it. It's really poorly designed and has no correlation with skill whatsoever.
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>>162758380
Can't say you will "grind" alot. But to be fair reaching level 60 takes 8days played if you focus. Just fuck around there, it''s less schedule required.
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>>162758380
Honor grinding is retarded at r10+, but if you just plan to get the blue set and discount then you're fine.
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>>162758532
Aight sorry, guess im overreacting though; again this is my personal observation ymmv.
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>>162758380
Raiding is easier than PVP
What usually happens on P servers is premades dominate PVP and neets poopsock and don't leave the Q EVER.

look man enjoy the questing and lore, and try to do some raids but if you can't farm gear then the other anon is right you probably won't get to AQ and definitely not NAX.

that being said if you know a pvp premade that don't care you can't play as much as them go for it.
honestly you sound like you've got your life together so stay the fuck away from mmo's.
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I don't understand the difference between the OLD server and the NEW server, someone help me out here.

The OLD server comes out on the 17th, and only people who originally played Nost can play that? NEW players can't play until 2017?
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>>162758720
Nah you can join alright, just no one is going to roll there because ur gonna get ganked by 60s and be horribly behind in gear.
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>>162758532
>asscobra
>nice
The guy was born to be a savage
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>>162758563
yes, take skinning, nothing else. herbing/mining actively slows you down for no reason while leveling since the leveling herbs don't make much money. at least with skinning you'll have easy extra vendor trash. then at 60 grab the correct profs and grind them up with a mount.
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>>162755861
Fuckin' right on.
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>>162758720
New players can play on the old server if they wish. It's just not very wise to invest time into a character on the old server instead of waiting for the new one.
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>>162758781
The savage himself and his guild got wrecked by grim tho
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>>162758780
Fair enough, so I should hold off until the new servers in 2017? Everyone will be fresh then?
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>>162758563
The problem with fishing is that almost everything that's profitable is only used by level 60 chars
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>tfw no raid guild wants a deaf person
:(
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>>162758781
it's not good to post about yourself cobe
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>>162755861
>No one will roll here
Why not?
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>>162758781
idk i think hes fine. i wish snack would calm down the spam and that grimlic would outright be banned but we cant always get what we want.
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>>162757920
Itemization in vanilla is shit friend, it's actually garbage so chances are shaman will roll on leather and cloth , warrior will roll on leather and mail and rogue will get cloth if it's got good enough stats.
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What the hell happened to /wpsg/
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>>162758720
>The OLD server comes out on the 17th, and only people who originally played Nost can play that? NEW players can't play until 2017?
No, you can create new characters on the old server just fine. People joined Nost all the time until the very day it was shut down, the fresh server hype is mostly for people who have a shit reputation on the old server, thinking that this time they can get in the big boy guilds.
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>>162759089
>rogue will get cloth

pretty sure itemization isn't THAT bad, minus on-use stuff like rocket helm
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Never played WoW in my whole life; How do I start?
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>>162759162
nost fanboys changed it to nosg the moment they heard nost was coming back.
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ARE YOU STILL POWERING UP?

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>162759083
Its funny how much he 'doesnt care what people think about him' but he sperged out so many times. Remember <You>? Remember the recent fucking spergout where he left discord for a few days because of some harmless banter on voice?
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>>162758995
I'm deaf and mute and have raided with Nihilum for 6 months

vanilla isn't hard
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>>162759162
died out in favor of big servers just having their own generals
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Will exploits like this still exist on the new servers?
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>>162759162
dead until netherwing (wwu) or northcraft (wwu to practice wotlk so we get server firsts on netherwing)
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>>162759217
>server that doesn't even exist gets it's own general
vanilla fags really are the worst.
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>>162758380

The fact that the server is free really takes allot of the pressure off. I feel like with a monthly subscription you are forced to play as much as possible, but you can just pick up and play with huge breaks in-between with a server like this.
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>>162759241
no i dont remember because i dont make it a point to keep notes on everybody i interact with over the course of a year like an autist.
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>>162758995
>>162759254
This is pretty clever thanks guys. now I won't have to talk to people or listen to them.
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>>162758083
Just stop posting about yourself anoka, its embarassing.
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>>162759214
just do it dude
look up vanilla wow elysium guide on youtube, there's like 5000 youtubers trying to profit off this new server opening
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>>162759051
Because LE CLIQUE wants to be THE POKEMON MASTER this time around so they're pretending "everyone" is doing it. Remember the "everyone will roll on horde" and "everyone will roll on alliance" and "everyone will roll on kronos 2" and "everyone will roll on kronos 1" and so on?
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>>162759254
Why are you mute? Are you missing your tongue?
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>>162758532
> hes still super nice.
Snack seriously dude you aren't fooling anyone we know its you
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>>162759265
thanks for reminding me about that gorilla quest in STV, gonna abuse the shit out of that
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>>162759254
How? Did they talk to you in text or did they just forget you existed? I really want to raid but everyone is always on voice comms. :(
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>2016
>people still think healing makes you a 'bitch' or a 'cuck'

lmao, have fun being useless and replaceable. MUH DPS ROTATIONS!!!!!1
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>>162759214
WoW is basically a casualized MMO. A 5 year old could probably do high end raiding without any prior experience. Literally all you do is press 2 buttons.
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>>162759618
I just pretended to listen
nobody knows the truth
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>>162759162
Is this dead server general?
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>>162759585
if i was snack i would have attached a picture of mike wazowski or a chihuahua
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>>162759634
It's ok. Priest healing is the most skill oriented in PvE minus the main tank.
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>>162759634
I'm tired of the healer bullying desu and I'm not even one.
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>>162759634
healer here

people only think that about us because we erp often :3
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>>162759634
Healers at 60 are common enough to be replaceable too.

It says something that tanks are the only role that can charge for their services.
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Why would you guys roll on nost when you can just wait for crestfall?
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>>162758995
My guild didn't have any deaf people but most guilds don't discriminate like that. We would have let you raid with us and found a way to make it work.
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>>162759618
>everyone is always on voice comms

Yes. Everyone also forgets there's other people in the channel and just talk over each other. Sometimes I wonder if half the people playing this game are secretly deaf and blind.
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>>162759162
/nosg/ and /krog/ killed it, good riddance

they laughed at us once, now who is laughing?
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I'm pretty pumped to play vanilla again. I've never played Alliance before, so its gonna be fun leveling through zones I've only seen as a ganker before. Always play/level as a Tauren resto shaman, gonna play as the only alliance race I like this time around, new class is always fun. Any tips for someone who's never played/leveled as priest before, or is it too straightforward to worry about?
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What is the best class? I want to raid, but don't know which class to play with, since the Vanilla doesn't seem to have a class I'm interested in.
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>>162759985
remember to bully nelf priests
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>>162759985
Get a wand ASAP and get the wand talent.
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>>162759162
>>162759925

And all these niggas play like they tough
'Til a nigga get killed
'Til a nigga get spilled, 'til your blood get spilled
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>>162759705
Oh fuck you, I thought you were serious. :(
>>162759835
They "don't discriminate" but they're quick to blame the one person who can't defend themselves in voice for any mistake someone else did, they assign loot to other people because they don't consider you a real human being, etc... if they don't pass you over for a normal person in the first place, which they always do in recruitment.
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>>162759705
so anon are you saying I shouldn't pretend to be death and mute by relation but I should just not listen?
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>>162760061
Best class for tanking is warrior. Best class for healing is priest. Best class for dps is mage.
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>>162759162
vanilla wow is the only wow version vg retards are capable of playing since the raids have 1 or 2 mechanics
so when they have to do raids that require skill the guilds crumble
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>>162758141
pretty modest and honest if you ask him something weird or personal he will just tell you
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>>162760061
warlock

always wanted in raids, highest dps endgame, unkillable in pvp
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>>162756127
Elwynn, with occasional beer runs to dun morogh
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>>162757523
Yep, for sure.
A lot of people will say you need to neet it up hardcore, and to be fair you kind of do to get server first 60 or get high warlord.
But there are several casual friendly guilds that don't expect everyone to be doing that, and lots of people with similar situations to yourself. Whether its pug MC or your guild is just advancing slowly, it's totally doable. If anything, the struggle for you with guild stuff would be more finding one that raids at times you can make rather than keeping up. As long as you're honest and are efficient about advancing your character in the time you have, you'll be fine.
This of course means you won't be pushing bleeding edge or anything, but that's totally okay. Private servers tend to have a lot more tryhards than retail vanilla had but only the REALLY autistic people care that much if you're a little behind.

One thing i'd suggest is getting familliar with leveling routes and whatnot, as well as researching where you'll be obtaining your pre-bis.
Nost is fuckhuge and you'll be able to find people at all hours at all levels and you may even find some cool friends. The /vg/ guild, while a horrible place to make friends, is a great place for casual leveling.
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>>162759783
fuck off
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>>162760112
>Oh fuck you, I thought you were serious. :(

I'm 100% serious.
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>>162759985
Welcome to the master class. Remember you can heal in dungeons while specced as Shadow/Disc.
get spirit tap and wand spec asap, the enchanting wands are good wands to start with
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>>162756127
Mulgore
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>>162760176

>Its been over a month and you're still salty.

8 MORE YEARS OF NOST
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is it easy to level as horde?, I remember being ganked a lot by them in Thousand needles, and they seem to have bases everywhere
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>>162760338
you think i could get away with that being a tank or would i have to be a ranged dps?
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>>162760315
is that a proposal~
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>>162760607
>tank

lel no
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I can't find a clear answer to this on the nost forums: if I purchase one of the BOE epic mounts, are there any restrictions to who I can trade it to? can I send it to a level 1 for future use?
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>>162760112
I actually have assburgers and am illiterate and I do just fine. If you ever fuck anything up just start calling people retards for no reason and it will just blow over.
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>>162760405
>master class
>no HUGE CRITS
>no BIG NUMBERS
What's the point; the game is an expanding numbers simulator.
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>fresh server cucks mad theyll be camped by og homies in contested zones on nostpvp
roflmao shitters
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Is paladin viable tank or dps?
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>>162760590
Their leveling experience is definitely smoother than alliance.
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>>162760590
1k needles is like the horde version of wetlands

there's not a lot of quests for the opposing faction, which makes it a problem for the few quests that do take you there
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>>162760338
Ok, tell me how to do it then please. What do you do when they ask you to go on voice comms?
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>>162760607
You'll never be a tank and it's not because you're mentally retarded. Tank positions are reserved for guild officers. So unless you're one of the founders of a guild you can forget about it.

Why would you give irreplaceable gear that directly affects how well your raids go to some literal who you haven't known for many years?
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>>162760924
nope
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>>162760973
I join
I was dps so no need to talk or listen
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This was from reddit, but what do you guys think?
It seems like it could be a good spot for info for new people eventually.
https://mightygoblin.com/
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>>162760924
no to both
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>>162760924
Paladins are good tanks until the defense stat starts to matter.
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>>162760872
I'll be in lowbie zones to countergank for the first few weeks.
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>>162760590
Lots of alliance get revenge in areas surrounding the Barrens, due to it being such a big horde territory in the middle of kalimdor.
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>>162760590
Horde are the favoured faction by the devs and shaman is the most OP class because it's Metzen's MarySue class.
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>>162760590

Depends. Alliance always level in groups/pairs (sissies) while hordeboys pretty much all solo.
However, when the beacons of Gondor are raised, all the hordeboys will answer the call. They're loyal like that.
>"Only gud elf is'a ded elf"
t. Hordeboy.
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>>162760859
Is he going to be okay?
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>>162761086
Which class?
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>>162761112
Damn
I'm not sure if I have what it takes to heal, and warrior seems boring in vanilla
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>>162761215
This isn't TBC though
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>>162760924
>Is paladin viable tank or dps?
Depends what you mean by "viable".
On nost, sotc is bugged and for leveling dungeons paladins are actually decent dps compared to everyone else. If i was a warrior tank i'd still choose someone else so he didn't take my shit, but still - and even without the bugs for leveling dungeons pretty much ANY dps is fine assuming you have someone to cc.
At 60 no dps at all, it's just worthless. If you're someone's girlfriend or the raidleader you can get a spot.
Same deal kind of with tanking, while leveling paladin can tank but it's certainly not the best especially when there are buttloads of warriors around. If you seriously can't find a warrior to put on a shield and the paladin has consecration, then it's doable for sure. I'd still prefer a druid if i had to choose (non warrior, i mean) but whatever. Again, at 60 it typically doesn't happen outside of niche encounters and even holy can offtank if necessary.
You can heal while leveling no matter the spec you're in.
DISCLAIMER: this is not advocating for you to dps or tank, just saying it doesn't matter that fucking much while leveling.
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>>162761215
I thought metzan played a paladin
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>>162755861
>retail cuck
>wowg
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>>162761389
Where shamans that op in tbc? I don't remember thinking that, but it was a long time ago and I'm not a smart person.
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>>162761529
What's the best way to become someone's girlfriend?
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>>162761669
So good they became mandatory for progression.
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>>162761687
go outside.
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>>162761687
Step 1 is not be a cringy anime posting dude shitposting in his underwear at 2:30pm.

Let me know when you solve step1 and I can complete your gf training.
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>>162761529
I figured druid would be even worse than paladin for dps/tank, was I mistaken?
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>>162761669
no. enhance lost their memefury globalling people. ele wasn't used too often in arena. resto shamans weren't resto druids or disc priests. in pve they had pretty fucking sweet party buffs and bloodlust stacking, but they weren't pushing any meters.
>>162761687
propose to them
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>>162761687
step 1 is be female
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>>162761850
Druids have a taunt, which makes them better since barely anything is immune to taunt while leveling.
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Can Salty Dogs raid at 8pm PST please? I will donate pizza to whoever can make this happen, possibly for life.
Thank you.
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>>162762284
>Can Salty Dogs raid
Nope.
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>>162761529
>can't find a ""DPS"" Warrior to put on a shield
>there are buttloads of """"DPS"""" Warriors around

FTFY

>Warrior: LF1M tank and we're g2g
>join and it's 2 Warriors a Druid and a Paladin
>**they ask me if I'm protection spec and then kick me
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>>162762421
Yeah, that can happen. Warriors can tank in any spec as long as they have a shield in their bag, but people either don't realize or are just dumb.
I don't really like warrior anyhow but can't imagine leveling and not tanking and making my own groups for dungeons, seems ludicrous not to take advantage of that.
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>>162761687
Join the Alliance guild and say you're a girl.
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>>162761252
he died there was nerve gas in the mud
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Why aren't you guys playing on Smolderforge while you wait for nostalrius/corecraft?
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>>162759732
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>>162762610
what if i want to be a horde girl
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if /nosg/ guild names will be terrible i wont join
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>>162762847
When is Corecraft coming out?
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>>162762856
splinter guild when tbqh
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>>162762610
but i want to be a horde girl
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>>162762856

The only good 4chan private server guild that existed was <The Vidya> and that was a /v/ guild.

Also like every other 4chan guild it eventually disbanded.
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I want to play horde, but I dont like any of the races except Tauren, and even then I cant be paladin
I just wan to play as a goblin
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>>162762856
they are terrible
Alliance is dark iron dads
Horde salty dogs
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>>162762856
<Beta Uprising>
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>>162762856
If the guild name is good I won't join.
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>>162762929
The project leader died or some shit.
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>>162763010
Wrong
Nihilum was the best

Stay mad
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>>162763005
>>162762853
Horde doesn't have any girls. Only smelly autistic men with a cuckold fetish.
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>>162762856
<Right Wing Death Squad>
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>>162763158
>Nihilum was the best


literally who and where?

was this a kronos guild?

kronos is ded
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>>162763230
just like every other server
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>>162763010
>he didn't clear server firsts with <Pure Luck> back on Feenix
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What's the most fun engineering gizmo?
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>>162763230
>kronos is ded

Kronos was never alive. A literal joke funserver.
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>>162757169
E4ward.com friend
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>>162763158
>Wrong
>Boku No Banter was the best

>Stay mad
ftfy
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>>162763158
Best guild was
bullet to the brain

Followed by
<you>
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>>162763316
world enlarger
>>
Male troll warrior or undead female warrior

alch/herb
or
mining/blacksmithing
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>>162763347
>>162763360
Wrong
Nihilum was
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Are any hybrid dps good?
I have very little interest in pure dps
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>>162763362
Why is /ourguy/ so based?
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>>162763470
Nope.

Feral druid is the best if you really want to be a meme, though.
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>>162763158
>He never raided with <cool story bro>
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>>162763362
gets me every time
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>>162763010
>>162763158
>>162763230
>>162763347
>>162763360
>>162763450
So wrong it hurts kiddo. :^) Maybe you need your gamer diapey changed you fucking dumpster trash. :~)

It was DRAGON IN FOREST
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>>162763316
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>>162763362
this is why i hate kronos, how can people script so obviously and never get banned
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>>162763362
Alex is f'ckin joocy

I'm not even gay
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>>162763409
Male troll warrior.

Alchemy and Herbalism.
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>>162763662
Could you elaborate?
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>>162763781
watch the hunter in the video
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>>162763862
why don't you watch the hunters pov and let us know where the proof is?
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>>162763362
thank you
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>>162763862
Okay, could you elaborate further?
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>>162763662
>wahh unfair this hunter 8 levels lower than me potted wtf man fucking cheater i dont even know what i could do how do i reach this fucking cheater how do i close the gap wtf fuck kronos holy shit i literally have no ability to go faster omfg fuck this fucking nerd he is banned he cant ever come to this chat again holy shit banned for life im going to go play legion fuck this
>>
If I'm a cuck and I want the world to know, which faction/race/class combo do I pick?
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>>162763961
just look at him if you are so retarded you can't tell thats your problem, or maybe you script aswell good luck trying that shit on nost hope it gets your ass banned kid.

>>162764037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMSAjDU-v0c
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>>162764245
gnome
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>>162764245
Male Night Elf Priest
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why can forsaken only be human? why not an undead dwarf, undead troll ect
>>
I didn't play old nost, but I've been playing on kronos until the fresh server and so far I've really been loving it.

That said, how autistic are raiding guilds about min maxing with class/races. Preferably when it comes to main tanks?
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>>162764513
Lordaeron was a human kingdom anon
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>>162764251
Okay I managed to make a fool out of yourself even though I gave you two chances to explain yourself, if anything you are retarded for being unable to use the English language to convey your thoughts.
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>>162764513
>forsaken
>human
what?
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>>162764251
Dude what?
Why can't you just tell us what you mean instead of linking some 7 min video?
Since you like videos, this is the hunter pov from that historic battle.

https://youtu.be/nG1-lu-2E24

Where is he scripting in that video? Please explain instead of "git gud" type shit.
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>>162764513
because of how the story goes in warcraft 3,
the human kingdom of lordaeron got hit by the plauge that turned them all undead and every one there is a human.
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>>162764648
yeah but what about like a troll traitor who wanted to be alliance and joined lordaeron
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>>162764669
He's obviously scripting are you retarded? Did you even watch the video lmao?
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>>162764593
Guilds don't give a fuck about what race you choose. Racials barely even matter in PvE. The only exception is fear ward which dwarf priests get, but even that is not necessary.
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>>162764776
>fear ward
>not necessary

lmao kiddo
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>>162764593
Some are more autistic than others, but generally the only combination that people really sperg about is dorf priest. There are still min/max choices depending on situation but dorf priest is the biggest example.
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>>162764593
FACT. Any guild that is "Hardcore" enough on a 12 year old fucking game and won't let you join based on your race choice is fucking trash anyway.
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people are responding to bait
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>>162764848
Well shit I guess all the horde guilds just can't raid then. RIP
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>>162764663
see>>162764737
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>>162764737
Epic troll bro
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>>162764970
just mind control the horde players and cast fear ward on them

ez
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>>162764881
it's a shitposting extravaganza, might as well join in
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>>162764726
> troll traitor who wanted to be alliance and joined lordaeron
Never happened they'd literally fucking kill him because he can't speak their language.
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>DRAGON IN FOREST will be back on Saturday

I don't know if I'm ready
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>>162764669
Haha there's footage from the hunter's point of view. This is great. Poor Alex though.
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>tfw he doesn't let you come while erping
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>>162765218
i like informant
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>>162765212
>erp
>playing alliance
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>>162765295
I only erp with orc girls
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>>162765263
Thanks buddy. I'll check it out
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tfw dying of hype and it's still 2 days away
I can't take it anymore
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>>162765449
And another 2 weeks until you can log in without disconnecting every 15 minutes only to be put in a 20 minute long queue.
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>>162765585
Still beats shit posting, I guess.
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>still no verification
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>2 days
>log back into my /who/ character with an empty friends list despite being 60
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>>162766035
I'll be you friend, Anon.

SIKE!
>>
Which side are all my <QUALITY> niggas rolling on?

I miss you all so much
>>
This time of day, I hate it. EU has gone to bed and it's still a few hours til primetime in NA.

Save me from this dead general ;_;
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>>162766543
did you try masturbating
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Greatest quote of all time?
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>>162760859
>priest
>no BIG NUMBERS

son have I got news for you
>>
Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?

I thought I heard [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker].
>>
I'm torn between rogue and WL.
Anyone want to tell me what to roll and why?
Also how does raid specced lock compare to rogue?
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>>162766758
If you signify deep meaning from quotes, you're just a pleb.
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>>162759162
>not posting the real version
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>>162766158
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>>162766758
>quoting allahu akbars
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>>162766824
But Anon I want to destroy not heal because I've been indoctrinated with toxic masculinity.
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>>162766845
Rogues are super good early endgame and very good end endgame while locks are crap early and very good endgame.

Avoid warlock if you want to pvp and go alliance.
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>>162767113
MDE is not funny and im glad their neo nazi comedy isn't shitting up one of my favorite channels
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>>162766758
>khalil gibran

Who? He just repeated what the ancients already said.
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>>162766893
Aw now I feel bad, I was just kidding.
/hug
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>>162767212
cool
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>>162767289
>just go insane and reject reality lol you are the king even though you live in a hole in the ground power of le mind
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>>162766758
"I offer no judgment on anyone save a handful of individuals who knew full well what they were doing, knew that they were trading the lives and destiny of their people for gratification in the moment, and did so gleefully. For the others...I can only shake my head and be grateful that I was not forced to make the choices they did."
T.Winston churchill
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>>162767509
It's more like.

>Don't get so bent out of shape over shit you can't even control
>>
>>162767628
Either the reality is real or it isn't.
>>
Any comfy informative vanilla videos?
don't link me that alex guys
>>
is the fresh server really going to be so heavily stacked in favor of alliance? looking on the guild recruitment forums the alliance threads outnumber the horde threads 3:1.

I'll keep looking for a solid US horde guild, but who knows what the future will bring
>>
>>162767780
It has nothing to do with whether reality is real or not. It's about controlling your mind so you don't go fucking nuts when bad shit happens to you.
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>>162767940
Just means more alliance shitters to fuck with.
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>>162768072
and instant bg queues. I'm just let down that there isn't a choice selection of horde guilds to pick from.
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>>162767509
>>162767780
>wagies actually think like this
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>>162767904
Try staysafetv. He's new at youtube, but whatever he does is quality.
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>>162766758
"no one feels ready. No one feels that he deserves it. And you know why? Because no one does. It is grace, pure and simple. We are inherently unworthy, simply because we are human, and all human beings, and German, and french , and all the other men--are flawed. But the lord loves us anyway. He loves us for what we sometimes can rise to in rare moments. He loves us for what we can do to help others. And he loves us because we can help him share his message by striving daily to be worthy, even though we understand that we cannot ever truly become so. So stand there today, as I did, feeling that you cannot possibly deserve it or ever be worthy, and know that you are in the same place every single Paladin has ever stood."
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>>162767940
Alliance players are statistically more likely to quit before 60 than horde players are.
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>>162768060
>It's about controlling your mind so you don't go fucking nuts when bad shit happens to you.
You mean it's about controlling your mind so that you go nuts when bad shit happens to you and don't react as if bad shit happened to you like a normal person would.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBILsBgdPj4
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>>162761850
druids and pallies are both op as fuck tanks on nost in 5 mans.
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>>162768128
I've played a lot of games right at launch, and one month into the game the majority of those guilds on the forums will be dead ends.

A lot of people playing the new server aren't going to stay. It'll definitely have more population than the original servers, but a lot of people are going in are doing so because of nostalgia and will likely get tired quickly.
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>>162767940
At stress test #3 there was a 55% Horde 45% Alliance divide. But usually Alliance has more players, because it attracts the most normies and Baby first MMO'ers, who can't handle playing "ugly" characters. I'm still rolling Horde again, I've heard from some more experienced players that Alliance has way way more plebs/newcomers so you have to deal with more shitters in your dungeon groups.

>>162768251
I agree StaySafe is good, also dareal MarkyMark is okay.
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>>162766758
"Dis... was our land. Troll land. We Amani was here before ANYONE! Da elves and their Alliance came ta drive us out. But we never give up. We never forget. Da elves took my eye. I cut off my own arm to escape dem. And now, dey fight alongside the Horde?! I spit on de Horde! I hate you... I hate you all. But I got a surprise for ya now... so come on in. De Amani never give up! We never forget! We never die. Dis is our land. You wanna stay, you stay here forever! We gonna bury you here."
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>>162768507
grim confirmed for making salty dogs quit and ragfag quit. Who is next ?!
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>>162768732

WE
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>>162768493
>le intellectual teen faec
>>
>>162768493
Let me clarify.

It's to prevent you from acting irrationally whenever something bad happens to you. Also so you don't destroy yourself with bad thoughts.
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Ok, so I realized that it's pointless to continue playing on old Nost PvP.

Since I still need a month of ranking to get R13, I'll only enjoy the gear for a month or two before AQ, and then I'll have to focus on PvE and join guilds and whatever the fuck, which I don't even want to do, to eventually get Naxx shit, which I won't be able to use against anyone in PvP since server will be dead by then.

Fuck. And I don't have enough time for the new server.

What should I do? :(
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>>162767558
>>162768314
Good shit
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>>162768584
I can see a lot of people going "oooo shiny new server!" Then realizing that vanilla leveling kinda sucks and just going back to their 60. Nobody had this option originally so we drudged through the shittier parts of leveling because all we had was fucking feenix to fall back on
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>>162768652
>But usually Alliance has more players, because it attracts the most normies and Baby first MMO'ers, who can't handle playing "ugly" characters. I'm still rolling Horde again, I've heard from some more experienced players that Alliance has way way more plebs/newcomers so you have to deal with more shitters in your dungeon groups.

None of this is true.

Alliance has more shitters because they have paladins, the class that attracts the most autists.
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>>162764881
>Everyone got same skin tone
>Everyone got same eye color
>Everyone got same hair color
>Everyone got same hair style
>Everyone is skinny
>Everyone is wearing the same clothes

How the fuck do you tell negros apart?
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>>162766758
So...this is what goes in a leftists mind....
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>>162768732
VENGEANCE FOR ZUL'JIN
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>>162767904
soupasoka
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>>162757568
>Defending ret by posting a warrior move
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>>162768861
If bad thoughts stem from bad things, they're perfectly normal. If you have to mindkill yourself not to react like a normal human being because the reaction is too scary, maybe you should, you know, change your circumstances?

But stoicism just like Buddhism is just a bullshit philosophy meant to preserve the status quo (and of course the texts are always written by people in really high positions of power, imagine that).
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>>162768951
>How the fuck do you tell negros apart?

But why.
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>>162764737
at what point is he scripting? what is the script doing?
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>>162763362
I want him to fuck my ass
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>>162768951
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>>162768968
But he's right.
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>>162769006
>nice high quality raid recordings
oh yeah just what I wanted.
thank you based anon
thank you
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>>162769204
But Anon, that's gay.
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which hybrid class is the easiest to gear up in 5mans?
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>>162769204
He doesn't fuck fat men.
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>>162764245
NE Hunter
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>>162769520
ret paladin
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>>162769520
>What healer is the easiest to gear up in 5mans?
Anything but Druid, maybe Shaman/Paladin because they can wear +mail but you'll be standing in a cloth dress anyway. I suggest you check out some pre-raid BiS list for the classes and judge for yourself.
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>>162769314
No you dumb faggot he's not.
You gotta live your emotions, act on your thoughts and stay real. Only this way you can stay in peace with yourself.
This shitty quote is literally proof of a mental illness. Basically cuckolding: the quote
>ohh my wife is getting pounded by BBC, but if I look at it positively I can even find enjoyment in it
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>>162769840
>stay real

If you had any self respect you wouldn't marry a nigger lover in the first place. But you wouldn't know about that since you're literally 14.
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>>162757000
I mean, after the Cullin and all that shit I too would try to avoid undead.
My favorite quote from MiB explains the fear toward the forsaken:
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet."
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>>162764245
Tauren with cow names
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>>162769530
But I'm cute and thin
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>tfw cucklock
>tfw worst class in the game
>tfw my succubus fucks big burly warrior bulls behind my back and won't even give me a dry handy
>tfw she gets backstabbed over and over by charming rogue chads and loves it
>tfw even gross sub-4/10 cucklock women know they can do better than a cucklock man and become desperate orbiters for wimpy paladins
>life of a cucklock
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>>162768314
yep im rolling paladin now
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>>162770067
>I know my wimminz xD
Deluded amerishart. There are tons of things you dont have influence on. If you get gunned down tomorrow in the streets, how you gonna look at it? huh faggot? huuh? you just gonna lay there in your blood and think that this is ok and fine? do something, bitch. cmon, move motherfucker.
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Is it worth doing pvp while leveling at 19, 29, 39 etc?

I've leveled to 60 on private servers plenty of times before but I never did BG's while doing it, is there any point to it or should I just rush to 60?
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>>162770418
No point other than for fun. Well you do get the tokens but there's nothing to really spend them on.
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>>162770410
Lmao reported for autism.

>>>/pol/
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>>162770418
makes it easier to get the rank 3 discount, but I wouldn't bother going out of your way to queue
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>>162770418
You get a 10% discount if you get to rank 3 so you have to play less for your 40% mount. Usually the devs fuck up and make it so people have access to PvP gear that is supposed to be released around Naxx which makes it literally BiS for the longest time, but it looks like that mistake wont happen on Fresh.
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>>162763064
Just suffered from crippling autism.
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>>162770221
Man I'd let that fuck me.
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>>162769110
Buddhism is about improving oneself and benefitting others at the same time. Loving others no matter what and being good to others makes you feel better.

Also, be like water.
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>>162770887
No.
Be like the bamboo in the water, you dipshit.
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>>162770979
That's Daoism, not Buddhism.
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>>162770858
But I'm bottom mate.
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>>162770226
>worst class
Why?
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>>162771076
You look like a top, though.
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>>162771131
Why reply to memers? The worst class is literally druid.
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Female Orc Warrior
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>>162771076
You aren't me, stop that.

But yes, at heart I am.

>>162771192
My curse
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>>162771240
Druids are the strongest race in the world.
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>>162771431
I'll curse your ass with my curved dick.
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>>162771489
Hopefully it's not too curved but let's stop fagging this thread up
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>>162769110
>they're perfectly normal
>like a normal human being
>I'm normal therefore I'm right

Nice strawman, nerd.
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>>162771240

that's bullshit and you know it
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>>162771460
>Finalflash

Wow why is he so good?
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Reminder that playing Alliance = vanilla hard mode, Horde = vanilla easy mode
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>>162771460
Is your brother okay? I haven't seen him in this general for a while.
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>>162771863
XD
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>>162772092
Ludvig is doing well this is his latest video from one week ago. Another example of why Druids are the strongest race in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCvb8MwvsD4
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>>162771985
>Paladin Buffs and Fear Ward
Now that is Baby mode raiding.
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>donate
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Is Shadow Priest pvp fun? It looks kind of slow and repetitive. Is Priest the best at healing others in group pvp?
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>>162772250
>>162772113
>>162771460
Finalflash please start posting blogs again on your Youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrUqkIdKPAQ
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>>162772660
Wow, autism.
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>>162772250
Great, keep up the good work. I know some people dislike the goth edit but for us plebs it's nice to get some commentary for insights. I learn something new at least.
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Paladin or Warrior? What are the pros and cons for both?

Seriously considering pally so i can be a special snowflake ret and make warriors cry because im not healing them in pvp
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>>162772558
I guess if killing everyone you face is repetitive then don't play it.
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>>162772786
this

goth edits is truly wow pvp kino
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>>162772829
Go Retard paladin, it's just too much fun.
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>>162772840
Well if you had GM powers you could instakill everyone but it wouldn't be fun at all outside of griefing.
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>>162772829
If you're going to be a dps paladin in pvp, then at least go reckoning.
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is the new server really coming out weeks after the old ones? fucks sake
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>>162772786
>>162772250
>move away from Mage to avoid Frost Nova

Every time.
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>>162772786
this. if I'm not explicitly told what each ability does in realtime I can't possibly keep up with the videos
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>>162773074
why the fuck wouldn't it? it would make zero sense whatsoever to release them at the same time or even a week apart.
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>>162773131
surely the two types of servers have non overlapping demographics
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>>162773186
>old Nost and fresh have overlapping demographics

They don't. That's why they're not releasing them at once. Old Nost is still going to die the second fresh comes out though lol.
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>>162773002
>making other people's lives hell isn't fun

PvE babies, everyone.
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>>162773393
i said they dont have overlapping demographics. and if they dont have overlapping ones then why would the new server fuck over the old ones?
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>>162773131
>>162773186
>>162773393
>>162773768
Q: How many realms are you opening, and can we have the fresh server first?

A: There are currently minimum 3 planned servers: Nostalrius PvP, Nostalrius PvE, and a new fresh realm. The Nostalrius PvP & PvE realms will be launched on December 17th. The fresh realm release date will be announced December 25th.
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>>162773768
Literally nobody will roll on your funserver lmao. Have fun raidlogging AQ40 noob.
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>>162763362
Holy fuck dude
>I'm gonna get some revenge on this 17 hunter fuck this guy
>ARE YOU SERIOUS DID HE JUST POT
>CLACK CLACKCLACKACLACOLSKALKSCL
>I'M PUSHING BUTTONS NOTHING I COULD DO WOOOOW
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>>162772957
what is a goth edit?
I haven't seen many videos so i'm sure i sound dumb. Do you mean it has commentary on what ability is used when and why? if so, that sounds amazing.
Are there any similar videos for shaman or paladin? Or what would be something i should search for besides "with commentary"?
I'm kind of guessing "<x class pvp> with commentary" will bring up 8000 videos of some cocksucker talking at the camera for 12 minutes.
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Finalflash can you post the spec you use?
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>>162756089
>half of these people aren't even in the guild
How sad
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>>162768910
>Ok, so I realized that it's pointless to continue playing on old Nost PvP.
>
>Since I still need a month of ranking to get R13, I'll only enjoy the gear for a month or two before AQ, and then I'll have to focus on PvE and join guilds and whatever the fuck, which I don't even want to do, to eventually get Naxx shit, which I won't be able to use against anyone in PvP since server will be dead by then.
>
>Fuck. And I don't have enough time for the new server.
>
>What should I do? :(

? :(
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>>162774373
balance: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0t0xhMxsLxG0oZVV0o
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>greykilling and still dying
>he's lucky I don't have dash at level 26
>takes off shirt and starts posing

Why is Alex so based? He truly is /ourguy/.

https://youtu.be/4wjGLiLAa_g?list=PLDui4HyGodX0GafQDOic0eB46YWQSXvqC
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wut would u pick bruhs?

war rogue or hunter

???????????????????????
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>>162768805
GONNA
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>War effort STARTS feb next year

rip old server for good. last argument for staying on it just died
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Going to create a gay guild, no drama, no attention whores, no girls.

It's the only way to keep peace.
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>>162774791
warrior if you've never had one at 60 before
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Is it true that Salty Dogs are afraid of Mfwpizza?
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I'm honestly surprised anyone actually wants to play this

vanilla wow was trash and a lot of people who played it on retail were happy to see it become history

how can anyone enjoy leveling through the same zones for the 20th fucking time? same quests, same broken classes, same bullshit scaling that makes some classes godly and others useless?

how miserable do you have to be IRL to have the time to get to 60 + enjoy ganking low level players? pathetic.

That being said, can someone tell me what server will actually be the best to roll on without propaganda? Nost or fresh?
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>>162774921
>war effort for fresh starts in 2018
????
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>he's rolling alliance

Kill yourself
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>>162775052
FOR

DA

HORDE


L O K T A R
O
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T
A
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>>162775016
Fresh if you're new obviously.
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Give it to me straight guys

I have no interest playing with the attention whores/namefags/roleplayers of this general so don't consider that when answering my question

Will rolling on Nost PVP really be that bad? I get that I'm going to get ganked by 60s but that's just vanilla and I'm used to it by now

Like is there any actual reason to not play on it besides the two I just listed?
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>>162775004
Yeah, he knows a secret that could destroy them.
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>>162774358
>shaman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REG419D0nno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTmUMxLk-E4
this guy
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>>162775357
It might be overpopulated, especially before the fresh server is out.
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>>162775357

playing on either server would be worse than you can imagine because they will be full of griefers and gold farmers 10x the amount of any retail blizz server

play a game that doesn't suck, you drank the kool-aid and bought into the hype, hype created by autists, traps, and their admirers
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>>162775591
I just want a vanilla server that isn't dead please enlighten me on one
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>>162775461
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>>162758995
Just let everyone know so they can tell you everything via text. We'd be happy to have you in the Alliance guild at least.

The original <Nihilum> got all their world firsts in vanilla/bc without using voice chat. They did it entirely through raid warnings.
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>>162775461
>>162776604
Those fucking picture caption things are like the lowest possible form of human communication or conveyance.

Literally the subform of memes for even dumber people.
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>>162761075
>Why would you give irreplaceable gear that directly affects how well your raids go to some literal who you haven't known for many years?

because your MT will gear up and then there will be surplus tank gear to spread around and you will eventually need like 8 geared tanks for Naxx
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>>162776604
nice facebook meme friend
glad to see you tumblr folk never left
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Do vg guilds use dkp or LC?
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>>162776000

kronos
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>mfw Towelliee's concurrent viewers has plummeted by 3000+ since legions launch.

He's nearly back to WoD levels of Irrelevancy. HAHA

2 D A Y S
D
A
Y
S
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>>162777491
Fuck off alex
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>>162777491
>>162777564
Alex please fuck me
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>>162777297
gdkp
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>>162776787
>Naxx

Haha yeah. Can't wait to do Naxx on Nostalrius lol.
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>>162777678
Okay.
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>>162777361
Are you being serious or memeing? I can never tell when people mention Kronos
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>>162777949
Not him, but Kronos is kind of dead. Most people stopped playing for nost.
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>>162777297
Depends
Most of the shitty ones /roll on everything or they don't raid at all
The skill of the talented feeds the needs of the pathetic

You'd want Loot Council to actually deck out your tanks and useful players first before focusing on the other guys, but it causes too much shitposting in the threads because of pathetic faggots
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>>162775591
Retailcuck plz go
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>>162777297
LC is better but people in /vg/ are entitled and feel like they deserve every piece of loot that drops so if a /vg/ guild were to deck out the people that matter most to the guild and are pretty much guaranteed to stick around there would be endless shitposting and the guild would die. That is one of many reasons there will never be a /vg/ guild that's competitive on their server.
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>>162778112
>Loot Council to actually deck out your tanks
>and useful players

But the tanks are the only useful players? Fuck off with your cuck council lmao.
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>>162778289
>people that matter

Lmao literal who's getting gear? Not in MY guild.
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>>162778394
Healers and DPS are very important too. The good healers and dps will be funneled gear so that content can actually be cleared in a timely manner
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I've raided with /vg/ in a span of 4 years and NEVER received any loot from raids.

AMA
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Anyone got any places they like to stand at and talk ?
I like to stand on a table in my main city near battlemasters
>some other fuck head UD rogue comes up and stand on my table
>we exchange words
>convince their guild lead they ninjaed items from a raid
>gkick
>report for racisim from previous conversation
>#banned

dont stand on my fucking table.
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>after alex rolls on the pve realm he realizes that his views have plummeted because nobody wants to see a balding manlet roidmonkey play on a pve realm for some private server
>with his lively hood at stake he rolls on the pvp realm to get his viewers back and make enough money for food again
>the first thing he sees after zoning into the starting area is me : standing there in my full rank 14 pvp gear right in his face
>all the quest givers are dead and there are 4 raids worth of people all looking at him
>tell him that he provides for me now and that every week he will give half of everything he owns to me
>he logs off instantly and closes his stream
>goes downstairs to get a drink only to bump into me talking to his mom
>"oh honey! didnt expect you to come out of your rool so early.. meet my new boyfriend his name is negan!"
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>>162778692
i stand in front of auctioneers or bankers and pretend i'm busy while i wait to join a group
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>>162778679
Can't tell if bait.
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>>162778692
those spiky things on top of org bank

especially the big one you can land on if you jump from the flightmaster
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>>162778714
Alex please. Fuck. Me.
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>>162778714
>>after alex rolls on the pve realm he realizes that his views have plummeted because nobody wants to see a balding manlet roidmonkey play on a pve realm for some private server
if this happened it would be great
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>>162778714
his room is downstairs
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anyone know if alexensual is rolling on the pvp server and what faction?

vurry vurry important to me to go on the opposite side
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>>162778679
>I deserver gear more than my guild mates because I do 20% more damage with better gear. "Funnel" me gear shitlords for the sake of "progression."
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>>162778682
must be a cucklock
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>>162778289
>LC is better
Only if the officers in charge of giving out loot are unbiased... which they never fucking are.

A DKP system is far better. You can punish players for serious fuck ups by decreasing their DKP, and you can reward good behaviour by giving bonuses to DKP.

People know where they stand and what odds they have of getting an item.

People are encouraged to do raids/bosses they do not need gear for in order to get DKP.

No one kisses any asses to gain favor with officers.

Easy to motivate people. e.g. "if we down this boss, everyone will get +20 dkp", or, "the next idiot fuck who gets kicked into the whelps will lose 50 dkp".
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>>162778679
there's no such thing as a "good" healer

like grats you installed quickheal and decursive lmao
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>>162778682
Why do you subject yourself to shitty meme guilds and making no progress?
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>>162779243
t. Noob who's never even raided Naxx
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>>162779217
The problem with DKP is that /vg/ guilds are inevitably casual guilds, and DKP is a horrible system for casual play.
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>>162779217
<wpsg> <You> and <Video Games> had unbiased and fair loot councils and it was pretty great.

But yeah I do think for most /vg/ guilds that DKP is better just because of people like you who will spend 90% of the raid shitposting about how unfair loot is because you didn't get that shiny buttplug with +10 to anal gape.
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>>162779243
t. nerd who's shit at WoW
There are ways to be better at healing than other people, just like dpsing.
>>
is it just me or does tirisfal have a shitton more herbs around compared to durotar
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>>162778953
It's true. If you funnel healing gear to your best healers you can bring more dps instead of healing to raids. Obviously if you then funnel dps gear to your best dps it leads to much much faster clears.

/vg/ guilds like Nihilum can't do this because mediocre players like Babymetal, Comfy, Dindumuffin, Earwen, Feena, Mocky, Xrg and Zintos complain.
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>>162779558
What did you expect, durotar is some barren wasteland, probably not many herbs growing there
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>>162778394
there's a high rate of turnover just because of the nature of vanilla wow, so it tends to be better to spread gear between the most reliable people. if someone underperforms they can usually be taught to git gud (if not then replace em), but it doesn't matter how pro of a healer they are if they work late during the week and can't make offdays, or if they get poached by some other guild, etc. etc. etc.

say you're a prospective rogue and you're wondering how to be taken to raids instead of the other guy... show up to raids more than he does. doesn't matter how well you know your class or how geared you are, you do no DPS if you aren't actually online
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>>162779624
>funnel healing gear to your best players

And who is in charge of deciding who the "best" are? The HPS meters?
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>>162779712
I was thinking that maybe durotar would have more mineral nodes to compensate. It doesn't though, and tirisfal also has more of those as well
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>>162779624
>naming the best player in the guild
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>>162779712
>>162779894
Probably about size of zone making it more dense
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>>162779516
><wpsg> <You> and <Video Games> had unbiased and fair loot councils and it was pretty great.
t. receiver of all the good shit first

Tell me loot council is a good system when the weapon you want drops, and it goes to the guy who attends less raids than you, does less DPS than you, uses less consumables than you, and already has a better weapon than you. But he is also friends with the guild master.

Tell me you won't think that he only got that item because he has ties with the GM.

Loot council is great... when it works. When it gives the items to the best players who need them most. But it never does. Instead, loot goes to everyone who is well-known in the guild first, THEN it goes to who needs it most and who is the best player.

A DKP system, whilst a worse system on paper, is far less susceptible to shady bullshit like loot council is. And unlike loot council, it actually encourages player performance and attendance, as opposed to encouraging everyone to have a good perception of you.

I would rather raid with a guild of players who want to be successful, than who want to be special social butterflies.
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>>162780186
>Tell me loot council is a good system when the weapon you want drops, and it goes to the guy who attends less raids than you, does less DPS than you, uses less consumables than you, and already has a better weapon than you. But he is also friends with the guild master.

t. A literal who shitter

Lmao if you think you're so good then why does nobody care about you and notice how good you are? Just because you do well on meters doesn't mean you have a good understanding of the game.
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>>162780186
None of what you just bitched about in your entire thesis ever happened in any of those 3 guilds I named.
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>>162780186
if you're only in a guild for loot instead of interacting with the people inside it, you are not loyal to the guild and will probably leave it as soon as you get what you want
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>>162779818
I'm not a healer but I'd imagine some combination of healing meters, not failing their assignment, getting pre-bis and knowing class mechanics.
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>>162780378
>>162780459
His last two paragraphs are compelling but Id still rather get something over some shitter who horded dkp or was there longer than me
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Why is Grom'gol so Comfy?
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>>162780648
don't use words you don't know the meaning of
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>>162780579
You mean clicking on names in luna and installing decursive?

>Man this guy is good. Let's "funnel" him gear
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>tfw its been 1 month since the announce and still can't decide for the love of jesus mighty christ of nazareth what class to roll
EL JUSTO
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>>162780993
just pick your toon at random
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>>162780579
Healing meters are a shit way to gauge healers
>be priest
>peers all spam flash heal to dish out inefficient heals before your efficient heals
>have low healing except on fights where they die and I solo heal the rest of it
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>>162780803
and yet the majority of people are still shit at it

really makes you scratch your noggin
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>>162780803
Better than the healers that fail to click on names in luna.
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>>162780012
DELETE THIS
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>>162780186
Best players in <wpsg>:
Gayspider, Jenk, Madden, Ysi, Yesallwomen, Celie, Keijo

Guess who all got the good loot that impacted raids first?

Best players in <You>:
Senna, Ituh, Avanine, Oats, Asscobra, Harmoo, Hg

Guess who got all the good loot that impacted raids first?

Best players in <Video Games>: Paradee, Meer, Weng, Jacket, Sunkin

Guess who got all the good loot that impacted raids first?
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>>162780378
I did more damage than all the other warlocks. I understood boss mechanics well. I brought my consumables. But I also kept to myself, and only spoke when necessary. But the warlock who had good ties with the GM got the items first; no questions asked.

When you are a faceless individual in a 40 man raid, in a 60-80 man guild, it is very easy to go unnoticed.

>>162780459
And how do you know that? You obviously keep track of your own loot, and the loot of your friends. But the healer who is fairly quiet and just wants to play the game goes unnoticed and is the last to get items, despite being reliable and good. Why does he not get items? Because he doesn't spend the whole raid trying to make friends.

Maybe you're right, though. Maybe those guilds did have unbiased systems. But they are far too easily corruptible. When you decide who gets the loot, you can either try to remember everyone in your raid, how much damage they do, how rarely they make mistakes, how often they bring consumables etc....... or you can just give it to the guy you know the best. It's too easy to simply cut corners when deciding who gets loot, and let your social connections with players influence you.

>>162780531
Who said I don't want to socialize? I do socialize with my guild, but I just don't spam /g or /ra with verbal diarrhoea like some people do. I make friends within the guild, and /w them during raids. But if I don't make friends with the GM or one of his cronies, I'll probably end up getting fuck all.

That's why I will always join a DKP guild first and foremost. Even if the raid times are inconvenient or they are a little behind me in progress. It's a much less stressful environment, and I find that I get a lot more items because I attend the raids and do my part. It doesn't matter how much I suck the GM's dick. My stupid loot points are all that matter.
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>>162780993
Roll or find a way to random otherwise and DONT cheat. Or random amongst the ones you feel like playing, then if you feel yourself drawn towards one just decide on it and let go.
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Give me hunter PvP tips

Like, what do I do if it's a warlock who just stands there tanking all my damage while putting 10 billion dots on me
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>>162780993
Warrior.
best tanks, great in pvp and great dps in pve
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>>162780007
>naming the best players in the guild
50% of Babymetal's healing was judgment of light.
Comfy used a 1 button macro to raid. Didn't know about weapon swapping or boss parrying.
Dindumuffin (after 2 months of BWL progression) couldn't equip his mageblade because he couldn't find the sword trainer.
Earwen constantly killed the raid with poor boss positioning
Feena turned up to BWL with cold blood specced wielding gutgore ripper and frightalon.
Mocky was below spriests in hps.
Xrg would turn up late to a boss and then complain he wasn't given the loot from that boss.
Zintos was below tanks in dps.

These are the guys who complained about better players getting more loot. At least Urist never complained.
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>>162781335
Hit him harder than he hits you? If he's not getting into your no-weapon box he's not a good player, and unless you're a shitter you shouldn't die to him.
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>>162781197
>And how do you know that
Because I played in all of those guilds. I wasn't one of the best players in any of them and yet was perfectly fine with the people that were better than me getting loot before I did because it helps the raid more than satiating the reward system in my brain.
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>>162781440
Okay thanks
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>>162781170
>there are only 5 players in each guild
Are you fucking trolling?

Of course the top 5 players in the guild will get the gear first. That is the philosophy of loot council -- to get the most out of the loot that has dropped.

I am talking about the other 55-75 players in the guild.
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>tfw I thought WoW was behind me but seeing idiots on /v/ not know what they are talking about triggered my autism
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>>162781345
Just ignore them?
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>So much misinformation in one thread
FUCKING STOP
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>>162781507
>other 55-75 players

What kind of cuck are you being in a guild that benches you half the time
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>>162781507
Read your OP again bud.

In each one of those guilds after the best players got the loot from the bosses that they needed gear from loot was fucking fantastically well done for the most part. <Video Games> had some (very few) hiccups because >Meer but <wpsg> and <You> had top tier Loot Councils and nobody ever got loot just because they were friends with Jenk or Asscobra.
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>>162781470
>ignoring the rest of what I said.

Let me say it again...
>You obviously keep track of your own loot, and the loot of your friends. But the healer who is fairly quiet and just wants to play the game goes unnoticed and is the last to get items, despite being reliable and good. Why does he not get items? Because he doesn't spend the whole raid trying to make friends.
>Maybe you're right, though. Maybe those guilds did have unbiased systems. But they are far too easily corruptible. When you decide who gets the loot, you can either try to remember everyone in your raid, how much damage they do, how rarely they make mistakes, how often they bring consumables etc....... or you can just give it to the guy you know the best. It's too easy to simply cut corners when deciding who gets loot, and let your social connections with players influence you.

If you use a DKP system, you can still give the best loot to the best players. You can add an "MVP" reward, where the best player of each class gets a DKP bonus at the end of the raid. It is versatile. Instead, people go with "loot council" and it becomes a fucking Facebook popularity contest.
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give me one good reason except for muh pop why they shouldn't open up multiple fresh servers
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>>162781743
People will attend anywhere from 50-75% of raids, on average. Some people have work/lives.

60-80 raiders is pretty typical for a guild.
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>>162781853
people will need to donate like 400 a month per server to keep em up
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>>162781853
More servers means more money to run them, and I sure as hell am not about to start having to support a goddamn 13 year-old game unless it's out of my own good will.
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>rhox goes to his first mc in 4 months

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=54793

:thinking:
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>>162781783
DKP can be hoarded even with a decay system and implementing controls on DKP is the exact same thing as modified Loot Council with a point system.

It's not hard to keep track of who did what and why they should get an item. In <You> the leadership had no problems giving a thorough explanation of why somebody got an item if somebody asked and all the loot people got was kept track of in a word doc or something. In <wpsg> all loot was kept track of and explanations were also given if people asked. Not once were any of those explanations "lol uhh idk he did pretty good damage that last fight so yeah"
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>>162781912
>50% raid attendance
>getting loot priority
how about no
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>>162781945
WoW Damage meters in MC on Kronos.
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>tfw when I'm a girl and the loot council 100% always supports me when it comes to my BiS

I've always preferred DKP, but there is no doubt about it that loot council is in my best interest. Always one or two people who have a crush.
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>>162781912
>50-75% raid attendance
>expecting loot priority at any time for any item ever
well now i know i can just ignore any posts you make from now on because holy shit you're retarded
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>>162781773
>Read your OP again bud.
I remember what I said. Why would I read it again?

>In each one of those guilds after the best players got the loot from the bosses that they needed gear from loot was fucking fantastically well done for the most part.
Yeah, it's fine until the gear starts going to the not-best players.

What about the other 55-75 players in the guild? When the top 5 people have the best items, what system comes into play for the rest? You can't tell me you can keep track of 60-80 faceless names and how good they all are. No. Instead, you either adopt a "fuck it everyone just roll for the item" system, or you just give it to who you like the most.

When a GM is deciding between two average-dps hunters as to who gets the bow, you think he's gonna pull out raidstats and see who has attended the most raids and done the most DPS? No. He wants to get the raid fucking going and move onto the next boss. So the hunters will either roll for it, or he'll just give it to whoever he remembers/likes the most.
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>>162782156
*snorts* *chuckles* *farts* *wipes nose* "h-hey lemme sh-show you why th-they call it th-the WAILING caverns" *giggles* *becomes erect* *sweats profusely* *hot glues sylvanas figurine*
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Is 4chan acting shit for anyone else?
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>be a hunter in MC
>some hunter gear just dropped, who do we give it to?
>One of the two hunters I guess
>There's only one hunter, they other guy quit early
>Full T2 in three weeks
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so what faction are
>we
rolling?
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>Implying cuck council is anything but a core10 circlejerk
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>>162779114
he always rolls horde but he's playing on pve server.
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>>162782156
LONDON
memes aside playing a female character alone will net you more attention, if you're actually a female(male) then autists will let you step on them if it increases their chance of you talking to them
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>>162782343
>be only hunter in MC
>leaf drops
>don't get it because I "hunter-weaponed" twice and guild leader decides to put it on the AH to get mad dosh
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>>162782343
this is pretty much how hunter raiding goes
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>>162782091
Not the same anon but <nihilium> had a really awful loot council system that was basically confirmed to cut corners in exactly the way he is describing. Someone posted a series of webms basically showing how they decided loot goes to people and usually it was who they remembered firsts and here's the kicker a good portion of the raiders in nihilium spamed the thread not all, but the guys spamming discord or spamming the thread are the most memorable.

Their shadowpriest has his own seat on the loot council, so he'd have to buttheads with the mage LC and the Warlock LC.
DKP would of saved nihilium so much anguish and questions but DKP gives power to the players and not the clique.
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>>162782091
>DKP can be hoarded
Oh no! You mean the players that attend the most raids and put in the most effort get the items first? THOSE BASTARDS

>implementing controls on DKP is the exact same thing as modified Loot Council with a point system.
And that is much better than a straight-up "lol ill just give the item to whoever i want because i am in control here >:^)" system.

>It's not hard to keep track of who did what and why they should get an item
Yes, it is. You can't keep track of 60-80 people like that to properly assess who gets what.

>loot was tracked and explanations were given
And that is a step in the right direction and is certainly better than how 90% of guilds do loot council... but it is still too easy to be influenced by irrelevant stuff.
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>>162782379
and it'll continue to be a core 10 circle jerk, because the people who are in it are going to scream, samefag and bark at all of their friends that it's a good model.

I would honestly rather do a /roll and -20 with whatever number I got than trust a circlejerk
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>>162782242
what serious guild has a 75 player roster for raids

that sounds like an absolute nightmare
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>>162781773
10/25man guilds are a lot easier to manage than 40man guilds.
Especially with vanilla's poor itemization leaving most drops garbage.
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>use dkp
>send useless linen or wool to bank
>get shit ton of dkp
>buy all of the tier gear
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>>162782242
>what about the other 55-75 players
>When a GM is deciding between two average-dps hunters as to who gets the bow, you think he's gonna pull out raidstats and see who has attended the most raids and done the most DPS? No. He wants to get the raid fucking going and move onto the next boss. So the hunters will either roll for it, or he'll just give it to whoever he remembers/likes the most.

Maybe in your shit guilds but not in any serious guild I've ever been in or any of those 3 /vg/ guilds I mentioned. You're acting like it's hard to keep worldoflogs or raidstats open during a raid if you're someone that has to make a decision for the guild.
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>>162782535
WE /wpsg/ NOW
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>>162782343
Hunters and druids are like that in a lot of guilds.
People avoid the classes for being subpar, but it has its perks.
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>>162782343
this was me on K2 except i was 1 of 2 locks

pity t1 lock gear was trash so i just wore it around IF
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>>162782449
leave le guild
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>>162782156
This. I'm making my own guild because I want a chance at impressing an autistic greasy roastie with my corrupt guild loot council.

Because world first guilds consisting of "professional gamers" use Loot Council nobody even thinks twice about it.
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>>162782097
>>162782241
I never said that people who attend half the raids should get priority.

Are you so stupid that you cannot read?

As I have said several times, I am not talking about the bleeding edge raiders who minmax and attend every raid. Obviously they should get the gear first.

I am talking about the AVERAGE raider.

When an item drops, and all the hardcore players don't need it, does the item go to Leggolaz the hunter who dealt okay DPS on the fight, or does it go to Woghunter the hunter who dealt slightly worse DPS on the fight but you do remember his name more than Leggolaz.

For most loot council guilds, the answer would be "i'll go for woghunter because i remember seeing him the most", or "i'll go for Leggolaz because he dealt more damage this fight". It's such an arbitrary emotional-based decision.
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>>162782712
>druid means instant raid-spot
>have to play rapeelf or browncow to get it
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The only time you should join a loot council guild is when you're new. You can get funneled all the gear that no one else wants, then hop over to a guild with a real loot system when you feel like it.
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>>162782712
>>162782343
>>162782472
THIS IS AMAZING I JUST HAVE TO PLAY HUNTER TO GET FREE LOOT THATS FUCKING CASH SENPAI
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>>162782538
Some of the shittier guilds for people who go outside, I guess.
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>>162782098
t. /wpsg/
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>>162782927
Hunter is EZ-WoW dude. Best farming, best leveling, best raiding position because you're in charge of controlling the flow of boss fights, pretty good in PvP and you get some dank armor sets and memorable class quests. And you get a lite-mount, too.
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>>162782848
you give gear to the people doing the worst dps desu
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>>162782848
Lmao why would you join a guild if you don't have progression in mind first and foremost? If you're not willing to give all your gear to some guy that does 2% more dps than you on the meters you're just a sore loser.
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>>162782848
>Leggolaz
>Woghunter
>not giving it to leggolaz because he has a top tier meme name
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>>162782848
most LC guild go with "right you, you and you, you guys roll for this"

or just have LC spreadsheets for the premium items then /roll the rest of the crap beause who really cares about tier 1 boots or about the 9th set of bloodfang bracers
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>>162782645
But again, there is still the element of being influenced by other things.

When your best friend does decent damage, you'll shout over vent/TS/discord, "WOW GUYS HE GETS THE ITEM BECAUSE OF HIS CRAZY DPS"

When the rando does decent damage, you'll say "although he did okay damage, I'm going to give it to my best friend because he has attended the most raids".

It's too loose and based upon some greasy virgin's "opinion" on who is the best and most valuable player.

BUT, if you use a point-based system that rewards players for attending, for doing decent dps etc... that decision becomes emotionless and much more fair.
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<You> and <wpsg> had great loot councils because the guilds only had ~50-60 people in them and the people (or in <You>
s case person) in charge had clearly ran guilds before and knew what they were doing.

If the same people ran a loot council on vanilla it would probably still work because a /vg/ guild will never be huge but if you started taking in normies as well and the size of your guild ballooned to like 120 then loot council would be a LOT harder to run. I still think it's very much possible though just a lot more work. All in all no matter how well a /vg/ guild handles loot people will still complain and shitpost.
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>>162783115
>If you're not willing to give all your gear to some guy that does 2% more dps than you on the meters you're just a sore loser.
I never said that. If a player is equal to me in all ways but does more damage, then yeah, sure, he can have the item. I don't care.
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>>162756748
>always found RPing to be cringy as fuck and awkward
>whenever I try to do it I just feel weird and stop unless I'm doing it unironically or something
>tfw rping as an orc husband and wife while leveling sounds comfy as fuck
>tfw not autistic enough to have comfy RP
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>>162782485
In Nihilum it depended. Rogue and healing loot was tracked with supposedly who gets an item planned out beforehand.
Warrior, hunter and caster loot was a massive clueless clusterfuck with hunter improving at the end when Turin stepped in.
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>>162783097
And don't forget that one ability, the best one in the game...!
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itt is proof of why need before greed system never ever works with kike ass americunts
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>>162783115
Not that anon but here's a question for you
you are doing BWL you have a gnome rogue and a human rogue
Gnome does slightly more damage has attended slightly more and recently got Chromatically Tempered Sword

Maladath drops
who do you give it to?
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>>162783427
Sorry, but hunters don't get inferno
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>>162783141
But when the good shit drops, and all the best players have it, it then becomes a terribad system.

You either go with a /roll system (which is mostly fine). Or you pull a vague reason out of your ass and say to yourself "w-well she has used a lot of potions and has always been reliable and i also think she flirted with me once so maybe if i give her this epic she'll send noods".

I don't want some fat ugly basement-dwelling permavirgin turboloser faggot micropenis dweeblord deciding with such looseness who gets what. I want some fucking calculus shit going on here, mate. I wanna know that Ninjassassin got the dagger because he is so fucking l33t. Not because he is buds with an officer.
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>>162783236
>50-60
we had maybe 30 raiders in <you> and <wpsg>
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>>162783228
why do you keep using extreme examples that have literally never happened here to try to further your argument?

in <you> if i had a question about a loot decision i'd just ask asscobra and immediately get an answer that made complete sense and made me understand why that person got the item

in <wpsg> if i had a question about a loot decision i'd just ask jenk and get the exact same thing

clearly you were slighted somehow by a loot council and are out on a personal crusade because these examples are fucking ridiculous and would cause people to outright quit the guild.
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>>162783228
>>162782848
Lmao all this sounds like just shitty players making bad decisions more than anything.

You've probably never been in a real serious raiding guild. It's not hard to decide before a raid who gets what if it drops.

Also like the other Anon said you have to prioritise better players who will stay with the guild. Not some literal who nobodies no one cares about.
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>>162783560
Human.
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>>162783642
member three first weeks of naxx
member two raid teams
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GUYS WHAT ARE THE LEAST PLAYED CLASSES I WANT NO COMPETITION FOR LOOT.

I'm told if you a hunter no one expects good dps
and if you are druid no one expects good healing, just tranquility and the very occasional hibernate
and that no one plays warlocks for some reason.

does this mean its free lot central?
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>>162783642
<you> had 2 raid groups at one point for almost 3 months and i know for a fact we had many more than 30 people in <wpsg>
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>>162783398
I think the idea of roleplaying is fine, it's at the roots of what these games are. But why does roleplaying in mmos always end up with stupid shit like "orc husband and wife" faggotry?
Are people really that lonely? Am i just misunderstanding it and I'm the faggot?
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>>162783650
Loot council is communism. It's never been tried properly. It works if you have the right people in charge.

This time will be different I can feel it.
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>>162783852
It means limited slots central because you don't want to take more than the bare minimum.
So if you actually get in the raid, yeah, loot for days.
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>>162783852
Healers are always in demand. Shamans and Paladins are practically guaranteed. Druids get space but no one likes leveling them. Dwarf and UD Priests get priority.
Warlocks are in demand but get saturated because they're great levelers.
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>>162784068
>UD Priests get priority

because they're cuter right!
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whats the best actionbar add on? just want to move shit around and remove all the metal gryphons and shit
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so I've never played Horde in vanilla but plan to here

redpill me on shamans
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>>162783650
>why do you keep using extreme examples that have literally never happened here to try to further your argument?
Because I am accentuating the point to show how even the smallest things can sway someone one way or another.
It's the thousands of subtle things that you are not even aware of that will influence who gets what.

>clearly you were slighted somehow by a loot council and are out on a personal crusade because these examples are fucking ridiculous and would cause people to outright quit the guild.
Of course. If I felt like I was treated fairly by a loot council system, I would not be here saying how shit it is. And I have seen a lot of people (including myself) quit guilds because of stupid loot council systems.

>>162783712
>Lmao all this sounds like just shitty players making bad decisions more than anything.
When you have to decide who the better, most reliable player is... do you not think that you could be biased about that?
Come on, son. You can't say you can be unbiased when you are dealing with such a social situation like that.
There is a reason why it is illegal in business to have a conflict of interest.

You can't make a business decision without bias when it affects you, just like you can't decide who gets what loot without bias when it affects you (in the form of your social standing).

>It's not hard to decide before a raid who gets what if it drops.
I've seen people not get items that were promised to go to them. And it has happened to me. My best-friend IRL left the guild we were in when another war got an item he had been promised for weeks.

>Also like the other Anon said you have to prioritise better players who will stay with the guild. Not some literal who nobodies no one cares about.
So you admit your social ties with the guild matter?
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>>162784159
because they are so ugly they help kill bosses faster
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>>162783852
very few locks on alliance due to WOTF and 60% of horde pop being UD rogue
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>most played to least played
Rogue
Warrior
Mage
Shaman
Paladin
Priest
Hunter
Warlock
Druid

/vg/ guilds can be a bit different. Nihilum was progressing BWL with no fury and 5 hunters for example...
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>>162784175
Tauren shaman are bros4lyfe. Even the Alliance won't attack you unless they're a rogue. Everyone wants to hang out with a tauren shaman. You're like Baine, but not a failure.

Troll shamans are okay. Most people will attack you for being a troll. Also your racials are the worst of the three. And you have to play as a troll that isn't bro-tier.

Orc shaman are niggers. Don't be an orc shaman. Literally the WE WUZ KANGZ of classes. Everyone will attack you for being an orc shaman.

Also HEALS FOR DAYS
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>>162783852
hunter you will compete for gear with rogues, which are overplayed and generally loot-starved. don't let that discourage you from playing a hunter, their dps is fine, good utility in groups, and amazing at solo play. you aren't as reliant on gear as a warrior or rogue either way.

idk about resto druids, and with warlocks as per usual you're fighting with other dps casters (which usually isn't a problem leveling up, worst case scenario an annoying healer rolls on your shit, suck it up buttercup)
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>>162784173
bartender2 or bongos
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>>162783914
Well yeah there are different kinds of roleplay. Just sort of immersing yourself in the world and and playing the game is a kind of roleplaying.

Even pen and paper RPG's still have mostly out of character interaction and things done in the game are silly or just for laughs a lot of the time.

But WoW in game RPing is on another level. You don't have the context that you would get from IRL pen and paper RPG's so it requires both parties to go a lot more in depth into everything and I just find it weird.

>But why does roleplaying in mmos always end up with stupid shit like "orc husband and wife" faggotry?
>Are people really that lonely?

Yes. Unfortunately I've decided to live a lonely life of seclusion but no matter how long goes by I can never become a full blown autist who RP's or does particularly weird shit like that. I've gone pretty far down the prison gay rabbit hole though, so I guess that's something. Haven't escalated to doing anything in real life yet.
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>>162784175
they have the most mana issues but the most raid benefit, and chain heal is legit OP

your warriors will suck your dick for windfury
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>>162784456
thanks mate
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>>162783953
>This time will be different I can feel it.
it wont senpai, it never is, all it takes is one person to not be impartial
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I'm not anyone arguing for or against, but I've never had anything but poor experiences with loot councils.
One was just gearing up the raidleader's friends even tho they sucked, the other two were tainted with female drama (and in at least one of those cases, most of the beta orbiters were totally ok with it).
All the rest of the guilds i've been in have been dkp based systems and the drama was way way less. I left the loot council ones after realizing that it wasn't working correctly, but that doesn't mean it can never work. I agree with the guy against it (tho it does sound like he's had really bad personal experiences, worse than me) that it's amazing on paper but in practice people are too unreliable and not able to separate feelings and internal biases from loot distribution - even if they're not intending any malice at the time.
If loot is clearly outlined and kept track of like the other dude is describing, then it "should" be okay, but i know that i'd at least be wary of it since i've heard that before.

Not that my opinion matters, but i wouldn't trust the guys from k2 to run a loot council.
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>>162784375
>And you have to play as a troll that isn't bro-tier.

trolls are bro-tier faggot

>Orc shaman are niggers. Don't be an orc shaman

orcs best racial

dont let this alliancefag false flag you into playing shitty pvp races anon!
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>>162784175
8 Shamans is optimal for tryhard guild.
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>>162784606
t. orc shaman nigger
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>>162784340
wrong
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>>162784340
no furry warriors but like 11 fucking rogues
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tfw i want to play as a troll warrior but my autism when it comes to min maxing knows that they are by far the weakest warrior race to play as horde side is making me doubt my decision
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>>162784340
>most overpowered PvP class is the least played
But why?

>travelform out of slows/immobilizations
>run away from any fight they want with ease by just spamming travelform
>immune to poly
>immune to sap
>immune to charm
>more armor and health than a prot warrior when in bear form
>can stealth
>lots of mobility
>charge, entangling roots, bash

You can literally just swap between a rogue and a prot warrior freely, and as soon as you start losing, you can just fuck off.

t.rank 13 feral druid
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>>162783560
You give it to the one with higher dps? This example is exaggerated in that there's only two people that need it. Realistically you would have 5 or more people that want it. So the choice is obvious.
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What vanilla classes scale the best with gear? Rogues and Warriors?

Also Hand of Rag better on an arms warrior or a ret pally?
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>>162784623
6 is optimal desu, you don't need totems in healer group
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>>162784702
Most of those warriors quit before 60.
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>>162784709
Because to get to that point you have to level a druid to 60, and only turbo-autists can do that in Vanilla, you turbo-autist.

>>162784708
Do whatever feels fun, but you WILL regret your choice when you're not doing as much damage later on down the line. Not going orc for that SWEET Whirlwind Axe is a huge mistake.

>>162784810
If you mean which class is most gear-dependent, warriors.
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>>162784709
because people are fixated on muh raid dps and muh feral druid from playing their shitty homogenized retail wow for too many years
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>>162784714
But the gnome is only doing higher dps because he has the better weapon. Why pick him?
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>>162783772
Good choice, I'd want you as rogue LC

>>162784714
You'd give it to the human because of weapon skill racial. more than 5 friend but we don't need to care about the other rogues because in this example their all shitters.
I find with LC there's only one correct way to run it assuming everyone in your raid is reliable its simply, who would it benefit the most.
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>>162784810
ret pally. any warrior with hand of rag is memeing you. I bet it's enchanted with fiery.
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>>162784894
>Because to get to that point you have to level a druid to 60, and only turbo-autists can do that in Vanilla, you turbo-autist
But druids are also the fastest-levelling class in the game

>run through mobs and use shred on them
>kill them almost instantly
>can solo elite quests
>can solo groups of mobs by spamming swipe
>no down-time. can rejuvenate between pulls and regen mana while fighting

Leveling my hunter to 60 felt like a fucking chore. I rolled a druid two weeks later and I felt like within a few days I was 60 on that druid.
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>>162784709
>druid
>overpowered
Lolno they're the shittiest class for a rreason, FF
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>>162785012
Oh so you're just pretending to be retarded.
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>>162785012
WAIT A SECOND ARE YOU TRYING TO MEME ME AGAIN FAINARUFURASHU-KUN??
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>>162784702
why is priest so underplayed?
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>>162785012
>But druids are also the fastest-levelling class in the game
u memein bruh?
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>>162784810
>scaling
Warrior.
>hand of rag
Warrior I guess. Doesn't really matter. There's better less expensive pvp weapons.
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>>162785012
fuck staring at bear ass
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>>162784874
at 60 the percentages change but the order doesn't
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>>162785098
Wand Spec - The Class.
You don't cast spells until level 36.
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>>162784709
>this is what druidcucks actually believe

Have fun swapping between a shitty rogue and shitty prot warrior i guess.
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>>162785098
casters are for fags

people only play mage because OP
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>>162785012
is this a joke?
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>tfw warriorcucks think they are going to be geared by dpsing raids

lmao maybe 2 months down the line when your main tank doesnt want anything
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>>162785039
But I can beat anyone. I even beat a T2 rogue when I had just hit 60 and was still using level 40 BoE greens.

Rogues, Warriors, Mages, Hunters. They all drop to a dudu.

>>162785087
no

>>162785089
not at all, my good man

>>162785104
No. What class is faster?

>war
lol no. needs to spend ages eating food. pull 2 mobs and you die.

>rogue
same as war, albeit less so

>mage
needs to drink

>lock
dps too low

>hunter
needs to either drink, or lolautoattack

>pala
same as hunter

>shaman
same as hunter

>priest
same as mage
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>>162785098
Shadow is shit. Healers are underplayed in general.
On horde you get cucked by shaman raid healing. On alliance you get cucked by paladin healsniping.
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>>162785098
>>162785226
This. If you like healing and shit you might as well cut your dick off you fucking faggot embarrassment of a man.
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>>162785314
>combat medics are embarrassments of men
Get the fuck out barbarian scum.
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>>162782859
Nost really should introduce the new race/class combos that actually make sense.

Troll Druids and Dwarf Druids, for starters. Hell, Dwarves could be Shamans too, if we're talking Wildhammer.
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>>162785289
u memein my dude?
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>fast/comfy leveling

Hunter > Mage > Warlock > Druid > Shaman > Rogue > Priest > Paladin > Warrior

Prove me wrong
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>>162785208
But the thing is, when I need to be a warrior, I can be. When I need to be a rogue, I can be. When I need to be a healer, I can be. When I need to be a mage, I can be.

Sure, I am a less efficient war/rogue/healer/mage, but being able to become any one of those at the appropriate time is far more useful.

The amount of times I have played as a warrior, got CCd and said, "fuck if only i could shapeshift out of this"

Or played as a rogue and got jumped by a warrior and said "fuck if only i had 8k hp and 12000 armor"

Or played as a mage and got jumped by a rogue and said "fuck if only i could travelform away"
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>>162785425
The Wildhammer Dwarves had druids?
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>>162785289
>be this retard
>thinks he knows about all of these classes
>doesn't know which classes level the fastest
Christ
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>>162785478
Yes they had druids. And Wildhammer Dwarves ar the reason Alliance uses Gryphons.
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>>162785435
>free mount mage lower than OOMage
>windfury savage lower than shred savage
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162785289
but if i level druid wont i just be an end game healer forever?
if i wanted to kill people wouldn't it be easier to do so a dps spec that can get raid gear to kill people with?
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>>162785435
>Mage>Warlock

Stopped reading there.
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>>162785493
>Y-YOU'RE RETARDED AND KNOW NOTHING
Whoah okay mate all of that evidence you presented has really proven your point.

I am sorry I offended you. I'll delete my druid on Saturday.

P-Please forgive me, Your Dominance!

lol fuck off you cunt. at least tell me why im wrong you nigger
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>>162785572
>>162785589
>what is aoe grinding
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>>162785680
>what is DoTanking
Get the fuck outta here normie.
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>>162785612
I'm not helping you kids with shit. Go research it yourself, I'm joining better guilds that will actually clear content
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How can you even argue that hunters aren't the fastest class to level?

They hold the record for fastest 60. It's fact.
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>people who think leveling a warlock who is going to get cucked by rogues 100 times every level is fun
Even worse if you're alliance warlocks. Enjoy the necrotic dick
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>>162785575
>raid as healer druid
>get ghoul skin tunic that has 411 armor for your "offspec"
>go bear form
>get 1890 armor from that
>add 10% armor from talents
>get nearly 2100 armor from a single item
>over double the armor of what the T3 warrior chest has
>spend the rest of your days doing battlegrounds and laughing at people trying to kill you whilst you are armorcapped
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>>162785810
Who cares lmao. Hunters are shit in Vanilla.
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>>162785814
>warlocks
>cucked by rogues
w e w don't wanna see how you play this game
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>>162785805
>it's up to you to prove yourself wrong
Okay, buddy. Two can play at that game.

I'm not researching shit. Go research it yourself.

Haha! Got ya! Outsmarted you again, faggot!
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>>162785814
just sac the VW dude
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>>162785904
Give it to me straight my dude, are hunters really shit in vanilla? Are they for real? You're not just lying on the internet now are you?
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>>162786009
hunter is the aboriginal of the modern world. You're good at huffing oil fumes but not much else
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>>162786009
Yeah Hunters are taken to raids only for utility. Their DPS is absolute hot garbage.
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>>162785560
Wildhammer had shamans idiot, not druids
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>>162785575
you can take at least 1 feral to raids. leader of the pack and you get some gear to tank with in AQ. having a feral is very useful for the four horsemen.
you can take at least 1 moonkin to raids. you'll only get leftover gear though. you take one for the mage group so they can roll ignites.
you'll get gear with patience since eventually everyone starts passing on everything but maybe trinkets and weapons
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>>162786126
What about the P V P ????
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>>162785810
>someone attempting to break a record is the same as someone levelling casually
Oh I'm sorry. Yeah, maybe if you're downing mana potions constantly, then yeah, hunters will be faster.

But for normal people, who don't have 200g to blow on potions, they have to level without trying to break any records.

You saying that hunters are the fastest because someone holds a record with the class, is like saying that if I want a fast bicycle I should get one with a massive gear ratio.

Even though a bike with a massive gear ratio has higher potential for speed, that doesn't mean I'll have the strength or endurance to actually utilize that potential.

See how stupid you are? I do.
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>>162786009
Pvp wise they wreck shit.
Pve wise they are a utility class whos dps gets outshined by most other dps
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>>162786193
Still shit, warlocks, spriests and rogues do PvP so much better than they ever will.
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>>162786232
>good at PvP
Lol
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>>162786196
i don't understand. could you rephrase your analogy to involve burgers? thank you.
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>>162773002
You're not far off from describing a shadow priest.

I don't think anything is more frightening in this game than a shadow priest in HWL gear with 5k hp.
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what is the worst racial in the game

My vote goes towards troll throwing weapon specialization
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>>162786196
>downing mana pots constantly

server first 60's, silly

it's always a hunter

then after the autistic hunters ding it's the autistic warlocks

then a few days later everyone else catches up
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>>162786232
>>162786270
>Pvp wise they wreck shit.
>Still shit, warlocks, spriests and rogues do PvP so much better than they ever will.
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>>162786009
Great utlity. Subpar dps.
Best solo class in the game.
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>>162786342
has anyone ever used a throwing weapon in wow
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>>162786429
When I could only invite a rogue to a dungeon and the tank didn't have a bow, yeah.
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>>162786308
Okay

You saying that hunters are the fastest because someone holds a record with the class, is like saying that if I want a speedy release from this plane of existence that I should eat a Big Mac.

Even though Big Macs are guaranteed to kill you, I am a relatively healthy person, so it probably wouldn't kill me instantly. And let's not forget, I require a speedy death, meaning that in this situation, for me, a shotgun in the mouth would be much faster.
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>>162786373

I guess farming mats or going full jew on the AH is nice, but yeah you don't gain much by leveling faster than the initial rush
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>>162786493
perfect, i get it now
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>>162786493

your simile is garbage, but your premise is wrong because hunters are hands down the fastest levelers
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>>162786493
>this comparison

you autistic or something dude?
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Should people be given DKP in return for ERP?

It's a morale boost for the guild. Helps progress just as much as donating herbs.
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Someone link the horde guild discord pls
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>>162786163
They have druids too.
>>
reminder that finalflash is rolling horde
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>>162786813
If that answer was yes, the Alliance wouldn't have any paladins, mages or warlocks.

>>162786903
DID YOU READ THE OP
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>>162786813
Really, you should have DKP penalties for not ERPing.
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>>162786308
Basically what he's saying is that he's retarded and that Hunters are good for twinking. When we're talking about server first 60.
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>>162786813
yes but only if they are REALLY good, at the player receiving must give up his dkp to not cause dkp inflation and all transactions must be overseen by the ERP officer of the guild who must have submitted at least 3 fan fictions 2 of which must be considered good by the GM or the community he's posted them on.
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>>162787019

non-autistic simile: leveling a hunter is like designing a rocket to get to the moon as fast as possible, but not carrying cargo with you, while leveling something like a warrior is like designing a rocket that travels slower to the moon but has way more cargo.
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>>162787394
seems pretty autistic to me t b h

here's a real certified non-autismo comparison

Hunter: bleeding edge racecar, only works under highly controlled conditions, burns expensive race fuel

druid: high tier road car, gets there fast on standard fuel with a 100k mile warranty
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>>162783427
But hunters don't have frost shock.

That said I am pretty damn torn between playing a hunter or a shaman.
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>>162786931
reminder this happened

twitch dot tv/rhoxxx/v/77399195
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Hunters are the real mushrooms, when you think about it
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>>162787394
no its obvious what he's saying
You get strong by lifting weight yes?
the heavier the weight you can lift the stronger you are, if you buy 50 lb weights and lift those you will be stronger than if you buy 25lb weights and lift those.
but heres the twist what if you are a weak piece of shit and cant lift or rather cant complete a full set with 50lb you can do 1 rep as opposed to the 25lb where you can do 5 reps or 10 reps.
which will get you stronger faster?
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>>162787667
Hunter Pros:
Grinding
Pet
Can't OOM
Tracking
Not a healslut

Shaman Pros:
Brotier
PURGE
Don't have to purchase auto-attack money
More bags
Guaranteed raid spots
GHOST WOLF
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>>162756127
silithus
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>>162756221
>4chan guilds
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>>162787667
Shamans are valuable both in pve and pvp
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>>162786009
most fun pvp class. pve wise they're there for utility like tranq shot, nature resistance, kiting, ect.
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>prewotlk hunters
Damn it must be REALLY fun to play as piece of shit which has 1000 buttons and like 6 of them are actually useful.
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>>162788082
Go back to Legion if you like having to PRESS X TO WIN.
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>>162756127

Feralas, in feathermoon stronghold

my job would be to bang the night elf sentinels after a hard day of work
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>>162788064
>most fun pvp class
what the fug does that mean
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>>162788158
>you will NEVER have sex with a night elf
>I will never have sex with a human
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>>162784709
Druids are good in capable hands but you will get assraped by a competent lock, hunter, priest, or shaman.
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>>162788142
Fuck off. I played as Hunter vanilla to wrath and before WOTLK they are WORST class possible. Only complete autist would play as something that doesn't has any skills besides aimed shot
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>>162788373
Hunters became good in TBC though
>>
If I plan on playing dagger rogue NE is the best race because of that sweet base AGI right?
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>>162788314
>>162788158
Fuck off you sad virgins
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>>162788293
Refer to any post with a green haired doggo
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>>162788494
NE is objectively the worst race for anything
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>>162785305
>Shadow is shit
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>>162788636
t. spacenigger
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>>162788494
NE is objectively the best race because of that sweet elf butt
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>>162788494

female night elf is the best everything
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>>162788678
>no raid spot in MC/BWL progression
>only 1 raid spot in ZG progression onwards
>not shit
baka desu senpai
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>>162788774
Kill yourself tranny
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>>162788718
Their butt is pretty flat actually you virgin.
>>
Whenever I see a femhuman or femnelf priest I assume they're a retarded erper.

What other class combinations have a negative reputation?
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>>162788952
troll anything, guaranteed DUDE WEED LMAO XD
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he raises a valid point
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>>162788952
Orc shaman. Undead rogue. Female anything.
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>>162788793
>Caring about any raid gear other than anathema
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>>162788438
>no explosive shot
>no black arrow
>disengage doesn't makes you jump back
>good
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>>162788952
NE priest would be bretty good at shadow pvp, no?

Free dot in starshards and a stealth
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>>162788494
No one will take you seriously as a nelf rogue, everyone will laugh at you behind your back.
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>>162788934
flat butts are delicious too you nigger
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>>162788952
my gf used to play a femnelf priest back in the day. though nowadays she plays only male anything.
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>>162789141
starshards is channeled, it's shit
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>>162788952
Dwarf priest

Literally low self esteem faggot who's guildies made him roll that-tier
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>>162789141
oh wait, starshards is channeled in vanilla isnt it
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>>162788293
it means they're fun to play in pvp
>>
oi lads do we know where the server will be located this time around?

my only issue with old nost was that playing from oceania i had to deal with like 300ms all the time which in vanilla is true suffering
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>>162789428
I dunno by the name is written in Cyrillic.
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>>162789428
putingrad
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>>162789338
cheeky
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>>162788952
>rogues
Nelf, troll, human (daggers)
>warriors
Troll
>mages
Human, troll (male)
>warlocks
Human
>Hunters
Troll
>Priests
Troll, human, nelf
>paladins
All erpers
>druids
No choice of race
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>>162789153
>caring what normies think
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>>162788952
Nelf Priest is the only combo that makes me think "This person is actually retarded"
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>>162789779
what about male nelf priest
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>>162789779
it makes me think "this is a cute girl (boy) looking for a good hard dicking >;) )
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>>162789278
Yep. Kind of useful while leveling because it's mana efficient, but pretty bad damage in raids/pvp.
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>>162789724
Go for it if you intend to solo play and never raid/pvp
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>>162789779
This. Don't those retards know they'll never get invited to a hardcore guild with that combination? I seriously can't believe that retards actually play races they think are cool instead of minmaxing ughh
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>>162757523
the only question is what kind of music you spin
if it's not techno or jungle I don't know what you're doing
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>>162790006
>night elves
>cool
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Is the bis for paladins always a mix of cloth/leather/mail? I really dont want to spend all my time in a dress
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>>162789779
I don't know, the night elf priests I encountered were all very dedicated to their job and would call me sweetie a lot.
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>>162790084
no, you'll probably be using tier pieces. expect to sport a pretty cyan dress for a while though.
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>>162790060
>Implying you never jerked it to that tight purple ass
>>
>euros been asleep for hours
>actually talking about the game for hours and not shitposting like redditors

what did /nosg/ mean by this?
>>
>>162789779
You're a fucking idiot
Nelf Priest is the best healer in the game
>healers running out of mana mid-ragnaros
>shadowmeld
>drink le drink
>recover MP
>start healing
>>
>>162790230
>talking about the game
>IS NELF HOT???
>OMG HOT NELF ASS :))
>FUCK I HATE NELF!!!
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>>162790060
>best starting zone
>best music
>best mounts
>best lore
>best bodies
>good animations
>people that play the females are cute
>>
>>162790297
>Meld in combat
>vanilla
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>>162790337
t. literally shaking euroqueer
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>>162790359
You're retarded if you actually believe this
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>>162790230
>grude: euro
>finalflash: euro
>jaime: euro
>>162788774 : euro
>every sd shitposter: euro
>rhox: na

Did I miss anyone? Seems we need to rebalance this.
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>>162790230
>tfw euro and up past my bedtime
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>>162790359
You mean people that play the female are disgusting trannies
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>>162790359
>being a faggot
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>>162790359
>best starting zone
undead
>best music
undead
>best mounts
still undead
>best lore
yup, undead
>best bodies
undead yet again
>goo... I mean best animations
u n d e a d
>cute
kys yourself
>>
Where's the new thread, faggots?
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>>162790297
holy shit...
why the fuck isn't everyone playing nelf? this is amazing. i'm going to kick all dwarves out of my guild on the new server now
thanks for the tip bud
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>>162790545
>disgusting trannies
t. woman
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>>162790594
I bet you rolled undead without even looking at the racials.
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>>162790740
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>>162790636
t.Mentally ill degenerate that thinks cutting their dick off is normal
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>>162790359
>best starting zone
That's Elwynn
>best music
That's Dun Morogh
>best mounts
That's orcs
>best lore
That's UD
>best bodies
That's true
>good animations
Doing flips doesn't count as good animation
>people that play the females are cute
FALSE
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>Male night elves
99% of the time just as retarded as their malproportioned model.

>female night elves
Cute CUTE girls who will support you when you're feeling down and make sure you're healed all the time in PvP scenarios.
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>>162790610
I agree except for best starting zone and music.
Night Elf starting zone and music is objectively the best of the game
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>>162790362
Try it. It works on Nost you fucking idiot. I had most healing done in my raids as nelf priest because of this
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>>162790865
Are you retarded? Teldrassil is objectively shit
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>>162790945
sure thing bruh
lel :^)
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>>162790958
Only edgy faggots would say so.
You listen to death metal while leveling, don't you?
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>>162790865
>best starting zone
>purple forest
>best music
>ooaaaaaaoaaa im nelf girl singing :D CUTE ELF BUTTS XDD ERP??? :X
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>>162790690
Night Elves are still ^10 more faggoty than any other.
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>>162791562
I was only talking about the starting zone and music tho
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>>162792383
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>>162792424
anon.......

>>162790767
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>>162792512
I'm trying to get both deleted so we can have a good thread.
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>>162792424
Are you autistic?
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>>162792424
The first one is completely fine you idiot. Fuck off
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