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Nightmare Edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official site
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799676100

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

You can listen to both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/

Banished >>162733817
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>>162753240
Please respond.
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1-5 I buy crystals
6-9 I don't
0 I kys myself
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>>162753265
I was going to make the thread and through I'd go find a picture with 5 real-life snowmen but the first one I found linked to a SJW blog complaining about the patriarchy of snowmen and forgot to make the thread. Sorry.
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Banisn protection before someone post the Bald guy
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>>162753359
for take 2? ancient elf & robin hood. they're both strong, but ancient elf is op
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>Play this game for over a month now
>Only NOW realize the background in the Home Screen changes depending on what time it is (morning/night)

T E C H N O L O G Y
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I hope dragon never gets good cards again, the whiny ninnies don't deserve them.
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>>162750789
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I still love her
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>>162753212
>Siegbro is not worth unless it kills a follower with a ton of defense
Holy macaronis
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>>162753459
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>>162753410
This sweet cinnomon roll shouldn't be allowed to be such a high priority.
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Fenrir when? Don't let me down Cygames
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Why play any deck other than sword if you want to win? It has positive win rates vs every other craft.
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>>162753443
>ancient elf
>op in t2
lolno
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>>162753507
What is powering her smugness?
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>>162753490
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>>162750789
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>>162753541
what a cute boy
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>>162753551
t. someone that hasn't played sword in their life in tiers that actually matter
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>>162753614
dogan is bad dude lmao
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>>162753468
>wanting to deal with Shadow AND dragon's constant bitching.
Please no.
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xth for Sword and Forest alliance. Salty faggots may not apply.
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>>162753574
Me, her husband Sage Commander
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>>162753541
>covering boy nipples
>covering the penis
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Could somebody give me a concede please 61102
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>>162753541

Why couldn't Fenrir be a cute wolf boy? I'm a literal faggot and this is disappointing.
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>>162753468
It's already not getting any good cards.

lmao
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>>162753563
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card/ancient-elf
the majority of players think otherwise
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>t2
alwida/saber or tsubaki/dragonewt (8pp 4/7 storm ward)?
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>>162753727
but he is
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>>162746936
>>162742581

Download here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Y83KQGcCUUOEhjblpCSWhObWc/view?usp=sharing
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SOKO MADEJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>162753459
I bet you don't know you can click your emblem/name any time to go straight to your profile either.
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>>162753520
>strawmaning so hard
I just said sword has good removal as well, not that sieg is bad

L2read
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>>162753541
>Fenrir with breasts
Why give a boy breasts?
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>>162753459
I bet you don't know you can click the top-left of the screen during matches to interact with the background
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>>162753707
t. swordfag desperately trying to fit in with the big girls
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>>162753816

I knew that, but not after a few weeks.

>>162753884

I played Hearthstone, so that was only natural.
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>>162753779
easy alwadi and saber
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>>162753738
Salamander's breath is a really good card so that's one(1) good dragon card in the set so far.
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>>162753818
You said that sword's removal is better than dragon's, which is blatantly false
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Think of your favorite card.
Tell us what her/his fetish is and which other card they'd do it with
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>>162753541
That's a cute boy, anon!
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>>162754001
salamander's breath is improved drastically with their new amulet, so i think the amulet will see play in control too
>>162753818
nice backtracking
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>>162753837
>This is the full image, it's not cropped
Fug. Also is Fenrir really a boy? Are they just keeping the wolf's gender ambiguous?
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>>162753779
As much as I love Charlotte's great big butt go left.
>>162753837
Ask every artist on pixiv and twitter that.
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YOOOOOOOOO
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>>162754001
I'm the number one whiny dragonfag here and I agree, it's a really good card.
I feel like cygames pulled a bait and switch on me by introducing it first and then releasing varying levels of garbage.
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>>162753816
Are there other ways to access your profile? I thought that was the only way
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>>162754032
I like the idea of her domming Rabbit Healer.
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>>162753752
The same people think Dragon Oracle is 9.5 for t2.

kek
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>>162754032
NTR
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Friendly reminder that if you are not masters you are not allowerd to bitch/complain and/or talk about balance, your opinon has zero valiue

Learn to play the game first and limit yourself to posting cute images

Thanks
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>Aggro rune
Is this any good? I'm only missing the wind gods
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>>162754268
thanks for the cute image
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>>162754145
No, it's a fucking meme that people are buying into for some goddamned reason.
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>>162754145
he is a boy, they refer to him as a "he"
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>>162754145
Who knows.
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>>162754190
More → Profile
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>>162754173
Post source you pizza shit
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>>162754212
dragon warrior exists, so it doesn't really matter if you lose a bit of tempo on turn 2
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>been grinding for eliza sleeves all month
>still only at 2607
>nearly 9000 more points to go

I'm not going to make it am I?
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>>162754173
>get Rowen leader
>get access to "can't protect anyone" emote
Dragon is finally playable.
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>>162754173
CANT
SAVE
ANYONE
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Will non-aggro sword even be good post-RoB?

Otohime is useless now and the game is getting even faster than before with all these face damage cards.
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>>162754145
It's a futa like his father in the original Norse myth
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>>162754173
Why would anyone want this?
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>>162754393
control might be, not sure, depends on what they do with dshift
mid will suck just like tempo forest
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>>162754393
>Otohime is useless now
Nice meme.
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>>162754345
>2600 points for half a month
jesus anon, how slow are you?
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>Sacred Plea
>Draw 2 cards for 1pp
>Dragon Oracle
>Draw 1 card for 2pp after turn 7
Explain
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>>162754393
Go away Hearthstone.
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>>162754393
>non aggro sword

every sword is aggro sword
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>>162754345
>Grinding
>less than 20 wins in the entire month
What the actual fuck
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Are any of the mid range sword legendaries going to be used less next expansion? Was thinking of making mid sword right now but want't to be safe and not vial too many leggos.
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Save gold for RoB, or buy packs now? My only finished decks are a tempo forest deck with only 2 Tias and Bannermeme, I haven't been playing for very long.
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>>162754345
I am at 27k, wished i had sandbagged at C
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>>162754173
SO
LONELY
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>>162754345
How?
I've been doing only my dailies which is like 4-5 wins a day and I'm already at 11800. I could've gotten them much sooner either.
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>>162754443
Corruptionfags. I'd get them.
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Is it even worth it to save for the new expansion? These cards don't look all that game changing, and I need a few leggo's to make more decks
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>>162754393
>Otohime useless
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>>162754173
>urias smile
so beatiful it protects itself
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>>162754173
>literally reskins and leaders that were already in the game, just not unlocked
>not even giving us the dragon

Fucking jews.
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>>162754173
I hope these don't take the spots of the leaders for the new expansions
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>>162754670
vania is a slut
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>>162754507
The countdown is supposed to be a drawback, which is patently false but whatever.
>>162754545
Nah, the only playable sword deck post-expansion looks to be Banner, so a tier 2 deck, I wouldn't waste my vials on it right now.
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>>162754032
Dimension Shift
Being spellboosted physically by Merlin's thick throbbing futa cock
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>>162753837
Gyno makes for trappier traps
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do you guys think the next expac will fix the RPS matchmaking? getting real tired of ELF being the only one with more than 1 wincon
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>>162754606
Save so you can buy some packs on release day, take a screenshot of what you got, bitch about how you didn't get anything and let us laugh at you while posting all the billion legendaries we've gotten.
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>>162754334
1. You're not guaranteed to draft dragon warrior
2. You're not guaranteed to draw dragon warrior
3. Assuming you go 2nd, you play dragon oracle on 2, now you have 4 mana on turn 3. What do you do? Play dragon warrior without evolving it? Good job. Now it's dead and you can't evolve it.

The site rates Dragon Oracle above Siegfried. That should tell you something.

The ancient elf rating probably comes from constructed players overrating it. It's a good card, sure, but it doesn't fit every draft, and it's somewhat situational.
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we got a leader pack for DE, there is nothing confirmed for RoB yet?
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What a good PtP forest deck?

I'm looking at game-ai and there's these builds with bell ringer that I've never seen people playing on ranked.
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>>162754173
>SHADE ROWEN
>SHADE ROWEN
>SHADE ROWEN
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need a concede please 16109
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>>162754032
Unica is a prostitute who likes all the other male cards. Fighter, Oathless, knights and shit.
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>>162753940
Joke's on you, I play both.
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why
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>>162754818
>fixing rps match ups and games decided by your first 10 cards
>giving other decks forest treatment
They try to buff haven, but instead of adding variety like for forest, they just reinforce and reinforce already existing.
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>>162754192
What the fuck is with her english voice anyway
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>>162754978
please
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>>162754173
>now available
>check
>it's not actually available now
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>>162754173
Post Salsa you slut
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>>162755062
I drafted roost + olivia and wyrm spire + olivia today.
Was a 4-1 run with roost winning me two games.
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>>162755134
It's fake dummy
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>>162754917
I just fought someone using the Ding Dong build today, the card pulls its weight in the deck but I feel that specific list suffers due to having only one Princess Mage. It'd be better to drop the Water Fairies for slightly more midgame desu, especially if Ding Dongs are in the mix.
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How luck based is this game?
Is it like other CCGs where skill is the difference between a 50% and 55% winrate, and the long term grind is all that matters?
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>>162755132
>>162754978
Got you covered my friend.
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>>162755192
I k-knew that
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>>162755318
100% skill
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friendly reminder that only braindead aggro shitter play sword and they all should fuck off back hearthstone
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>>162755341

>>162755318
only the draws are random, lord of flies don't count since it only summon from 3 options
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>>162755318
50 and 55% difference but grind isn't bad at all
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>>162755318
Draws are still luck based but it's essential to the card games i guess.
I think there are less than 10 cards that are rng based but most of them have a minor effect like "deal 1 damage to the random follower" so it's not as bad as, say, Hearthstone. Well, there is the Lord of the Flies, but you don't see it often outside of Arena because Shadow is a trash class.
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>>162755318
About tree fiddy
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>>162755379
we need one class to contain all the retards that like playing midrange shaman and midrange hunter
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>>162755379
>ESL thinking he can have an opinion
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>>162755318
This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill
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>>162755341
arigatou gozaimas'
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>>162755434
What is the tier list for Fly summons anyway?
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>>162755534
Well fuck that then, the idea that I'm still going to lose a good portion of matches no matter how good I am and that I basically have to not care about the game itself due to how little influence you have over it is what turned me off from most other card games.
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>>162755553
It's funny how no one ragged on Midrange Shaman until it actually became worth shit. Fuck you and people like you.
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Heaven will be best craft in RoB and there is nothing you can do about it
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>>162755318
>Is it like other CCGs where skill is the difference between a 50% and 55% winrate
Yes.
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>>162755717
they all suck since you are either frozen in time or killed by a lesbian when you got the pp to summon him
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>>162755608
Fifteen percent concentrated luck of the draw.
Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to only play Haven or Forest.
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>120 hours played
>60 golds (Not counting duplicates)
>18 legendaries (Again not counting duplicates)
>Not a single Bellringer Angel
What the fuck Cygames
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Daily reminder that this happened at one point to some anon last week.
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>>162755318
it's a card game, it's pure luck horse shit because of draws but there's little card rng else
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>>162755553
Dragon and Shadow are about as mindless but get a free pass because they're not tier 1 right now, can't wait for you chucklefucks to turn on them once the meta starts favoring them.
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qt, spunky angel
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>>162754908
The Rage of Bahamut leader pack didn't even come out at the same time as DE.
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>>162755719
You need a very certain kind of mentality to enjoy CCGs, they're not for everyone.
You have to be able to autopilot your way through hundreds of games and try to raise your win rate through minute tweaks to your decklist to adapt to the meta, all the while being indifferent enough about the outcome of individual games to not get discouraged by the fact that there's only so much skill will actually do in this game.
It's the autism genre.
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>>162755719
Well, it's a thing of card games in general
Hard counters and bad draws will always be a thing
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>WAAH WAAH BANISH IS NOT FAIR! YOU SHOULD HAVE TO REMOVE MY ANNOYING STICKY LAST WORD MINIONS 5 TIMES AND GO 3 FOR 1 FOR EACH ONE WHILE I MINDLESSLY GO FACE AND GET YOU DOWN INTO THE 11 HP KILLZONE FROM HAND ON TURN 6
Shadow should never be playable, it needs to be bottom tier forever,
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>>162755879
think of it this way: is it more likely this happened, or is it more likely someone made it in photoshop for (You)'s?
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>>162756025
>the autism genre
Nah that would be Fighting games.
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>>162755946
>dragon
>play 1 high cost high stats follower per turn ever returning to meta
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>>162756025
If he's autistic about not liking a 50% winrate than competitive games are not the place for him period.
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>>162756068
Who are you quoting, friend? :)
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!! BREAKING NEWS !! sub 3x 2pp fox amulets for storm haven, it breaks the meta! 1 moon and 1 themis for the luls
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I hope elana players don't wake up the next time they go to sleep
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>>162756068
>Havenshitter posting Forte
?
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>>162756068
I strongly believe that banishment isn't the reason why Haven dominates Shadow but you need to cut your salt intake.

>>162756114
>Anything that requires any degree of practice or commitment is autistic
We live in a sad fucking society.
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>>162756114
Fighting games are less about, 'oh, my first ten cards are bad, i guess I'll most likely lose now' and more about match ups and execution.
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>>162756068
>Havenfag has a 62% winrate over shadow
>Still complains
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>>162756068
But I don't want to play a shitty aggro deck. I want to play midrange and dump all my big dudes and wall you off with zombies but Haven won't let me.
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>>162756068
Are you really posting this drivel with a forte pic after what haven does aiela you piece of shit?
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>>162756170
source of gif?
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>>162756068
dumb midgetposter
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>>162756276
Any genre that you like is the autism genre
Get a trip
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>>162756250
>Havenshitter having problems with Shadow degenerates
I know this is Shadow main general and all, but Jesus fuck get your boogeyman straight. Isn't all the fucking crying you people do is because Haven shits on you? If I was playing Haven, I would have no problem putting you degenerates where you belong.
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>>162756114
At least fighting games are rewarding and require some kind of involvement or at least mental presence.
>>162756156
You're obviously going to approach a 50% winrate eventually, but on an individual game basis, in a match between two players, the more skilled player should win at least 80% of the time in a truly competitive game.
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Have Arthurian Light on your side of the field.
Play and evolve White Paladin when your opponent has 4 or more followers.
Play Mentor's Teachings on your White Paladin.
Now play Whirlwind Sword and select White Paladin.
From 20 to 0. Totally reliable. Totally consistent. Totally.
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>>162756305
>le random buttons mashing
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someone give me a bannermeme deck i'm converting to the face trash players since i've been bricking in A2 for too long.
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>>162756379
Dumb hagposter
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>>162756276
Found the fighting games player.
There's a difference between dedication and counting single frames.
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>>162756305
And matchups aren't random bullshit?
Oh hey, I'm up against a character my guy is weak against, guess I just fucking lose now.
That's why the only good fighting games are ones like 3S with a small amount of broken top tier characters that have no bad matchups.
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>>162756434
>the more skilled player should win at least 80% of the time in a truly competitive game
Wrong genre m8
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how does being haven in pre DE shadowverse feels like
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>>162756305
Nah man, at some point most people just autopilot through most combos and it becomes a tier list game, just like card games.
You're a serious disadvantage before even starting if you get matched with your counter character/deck.
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>>162756568
like being dragon now and forever
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>>162756637
Probably like playing Dragon now.
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>>162756434
>the difference in skill is consistent and a set number
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>>162756250
>>162756306
>>162756379
>>162756507
>>162756521
the strawmen are strong in this thread
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>>162756332

bingo tarte my eager blowjobber
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>>162756503
What I use in AA but I'm honestly thinking of retooling it.
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>>162756434
>the more skilled player should win at least 80% of the time in a truly competitive game.

That only happens in Arena shooters which are now dead.
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>>162756637
Feels T3 man
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>>162756648
You don't have random draw making it worse though.
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>>162756637
>newfags will never know
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>>162756568
Plenty of TCGs have top players consistently placing in tournaments, obviously it's not impossible for a card game to be skill based despite inherent variance.
It's just that those games have a lot less emphasis on opening hands and "curve or die".
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>>162756276
Videogames do not even remotely deserve that level of commitment.
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>>162756785
You also don't have random draw making it better
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>>162756789
eris sure worked hard to reach where she is now
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>you may have faced against someone like her were never aware of it
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>>162756637
I ended up building meme decks like superbuffing a Mainyu for dailies because they actually won more than the meta Guardian Sun Satan deck
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>>162756775
Well yeah, because games with large amounts of variance where everybody wins at least a decent number of games due to sheer randomness will always be more attractive to the public.
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>>162756891
>Luna
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>>162756768
what are you gonna change
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>>162756562
Of course, good players know what to mulligan like do I want keep Liza against DShift or May when go 2nd? What's kind of top deck said in 4pp? Should drop 2 2pps if I knew in advance, there will be crugel or dragon warrior next turn?
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>>162756891
If i did, i hope i destroyed her so hard she had to leave the game.
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>>162756891
>Girls are too dumb for simple card games
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>>162756068
I agree actually
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>>162756862
>tfw you will never be a bad, fat Cygames CEO that Eris sells her body to for good cards
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>>162756637
5% play rate. Have you ever run across shit like PtP Sword more than once ever? That's what pre DE Blood and Haven were. Shadow and Dragon whiners will go into oppression Olympics mode about how they're just as bad now, while sitting comfortably in tier 2 down from their previous tier 1 throne.
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>>162756637
You had to draw guardian sun and then survive until turn 10 and put down Satan. DShift was less popular before the update that increased maximum hand size so games were slower at least.

Also with Control Shadow and Ramp Dragon I actually managed to survive the Satan deck and still win against Haven after turn 10 a few times.
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>>162756891
>luna
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>>162756562
>And matchups aren't random bullshit?
Uh, no. This is the most idiotic post I've ever seen in these threads.

And Third Strike fucking sucks fuck you.

>>162756521
"Autism" is the lazy man's term for "dedication".

>>162756817
Anything that you happen to be fond of deserves commitment, and you'll get out of them as much as you put into them. Do you like fighting games? Maybe not, but there is some other hobby or craft that you're into that you are willing to spend a proportionate amount of time on.
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>>162756803
Because those TCGs have matches and siding system which takes the most amount of skill. Not here though.
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>>162756891

us gamers, right?
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>>162756985
My sister plays the game tough
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>>162756817
>Being this pretentious
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>>162756953
Probably Oathless, and try to add Barrage somewhere, I'm tired of fairies.
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>>162756979
This
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>tfw can't use Urias and vampy at the same time
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>>162756979
I admit I have almost no idea how to mulligan except "well let's get my 2drop". There are some obvious above curve keeps but most of the time I have no idea what I'm doing.
I wonder how many loses I've gotten because of that.
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>>162756503
not even bannermeme is gonna save you, I already tried
current meta is shit and it boils down to
>get matched against your counter = lose
if the next expac doesn't give every player alternatives wincons like Elf then SV is dead
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>>162757069
Can you get a trip please? Thanks.
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>>162754268
I'm going to post cute whether you like it or not you little furry bitch
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>>162757084
>Going 2-28 overall

holy shit
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>>162757129
>tfw can't use Luna and Mordecai at the same time
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>>162757096
>posting worst girl
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>>162756817
They do if you can earn million dollars playing them.
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>>162757069
I never said autistic==bad. Just that it does require immense level of dedication to learn all the smallest mechanics.
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>>162757227

Why can't Mordecai be the Skeleton behind Luna

What more can you ask for other than good cards
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>tfw your priest gets priest'd
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>>162757296
Just become an investment banker.
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make her viable
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>>162756436
>Whirlwind Sword
I really am interested in this card. I know that everyone got more AoEs, but the idea of playing Whirlwind the turn after an Otohime pushing for game from that still really excites me.
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I'm so glad meta Rune seems to not run Petrify. Won my last 3 Rune matches with Elana Seraph.
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>>162757337
How is that any different from any other game? There are nuances in all sorts of games that you may not even be aware of, even in the games that you play yourself.
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>>162757404

lower stats but has Rush
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>>162757404
-2 or 3 stats
+rush
Here, she is now viable.
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>quickly throw together a shit forest deck for daily quests
>get into a 20 minute game against a DShift who's taking forever to do anything
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>>162757402
That doesn't sound as fun as playing video games though.
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>>162757404
>3/4
>rush
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>>162757084
>a dangerous weak point
This can't be real.

Kind of getting a heal in the expansion along with Lord of the Drain Bug but I doubt her games leave room to stabilize the late game anyway.
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>>162757032
>Dragon whiners
Dragon memers*. I swear if meme magic makes dragon actual bad I'll kill every single fag who cried about dragon being super bad in this threads
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>>162757404
Give her Rush
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>>162756436
>>162757424
That card does not do what you think it does, or do you really want to wipe your own board?
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>>162757424
Ima wait till official burger release, dont trust anyone from here and their google translations
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>sword
>still no AoE clear
>still proper draws
>still no late game powerhouse
>still no cheap removal
Really Cygames?
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OK WHATS THE COUNTER TO FOREST CANCER - ALL OF IT. PTP TEMPO AND OTHER VARIATIONS. I NEED TO KILL ELF
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>death's breath with 3 hp left
>clear its board every round
>one zombie is alive for a whooping 4 turns with 2/1
>cancer drops Crystal Tia
>it drops a roach too
>it has lethal and doesn't realize it
>kills my lonely ward with his 3/1 roach instead of its 6/6 Eve
>now it can't hit face this round
>really made us think
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>>162757795
kys
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>>162757404
Rush.
I'm always surprised when the occasional bloodguy uses medusa's gaze.
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>>162757798
Draw well when they draw poorly.
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>just want to do dailies in unranked
>rune
>rune
>rune
>rune
>rune
LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES
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>>162757798
Do what the pros do, play PTP elf to counter it.
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>>162757337
>tfw people call all haven braindead when you count every countdown and stat change 3 turns in advance to maximize your draws and make sure to always have the least amount of followers on board to abuse themis/offering to the max
storm haven was a mistake
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>>162757798
Turn off your modem when you lose.
>>
This game is really fun
>>
Shadow is secretly tier 1.
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>>162757798
draw well and pray they draw like shit
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>>162757424
>>162756436

BRUH
BRUUH

HAMSA + WHIRLWIND SWORD
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>>162757404
>executioner's axe
do you fags even bother to read new releases?
medusa is already fixed
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>>162757798
Storm heaven
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>>162757913
Storm Haven is the same way, your timings are just centered around maximizing your burst instead of board control. Every deck in every class has some degree of nuance to them, calling shit "braindead" is retarded, I even joke about Sword being Gorillacraft and it still applies.
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>>162757946
t. b0
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>>162757946
from 0 to 10, how real the nep memes will be?
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>>162757937
legend and other wonderful tales from D rank
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>>162757798
Mid shadow.
>foul tempest
>spartoi soldier
>walls of zombies
>Mordecai
>Urding their Ancient Elf
>Deathbranding their ancient elf
>Lotf their ancient elf

You WILL lose to Elana/Seraph though. Badly.
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>>162757798
elana and dshift both wreck ptp elf
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>>162758097
AA1.
Currently 6 wins in a row. 3 of them Haven.
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>>162758159
>implying anything you said matters when PtP comes onto the field
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I like this game a lot
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>GOLLY, IT'S A LOLI
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>>162758227
Haha, same.
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>>162758240
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>>162758221
Double Mordecai matters. Having execute matters.
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>>162758095
storm IS braindead, they dont even count amulets because all of them are 3 or less which means garuda instapops them
in terms of difficulty PtP > Seraph > Sun >Elana > Elana Seraph > Storm
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>>162757798
Elana Seraph Haven has a decent matchup against both. Mid Sword and Dragon too.
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I think Shadowverse is a great game!
>>
>wipe your own board
>>162757718
Not that guy, but >>162733341
>Sword
>Whirlwind Sword
>5 Cost Silver Spell
>Select one of your followers and apply its attack value to the rest of your followers.
Are you implying this guy is wrong?
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>>162758106
Very real.
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>>162758403
its a board wipe
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>>162758403
Its worded like its a buff though.
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>>162758398
And I think you're a great person!
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>>162758106
Going to need her wearing a Top Nep hat asap
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>>162758403
Yeah it deals damage to all followers equal to the selected own followers attack.
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>>162758365
>PtP
>difficult

If they didn't show you how many shadows you have, I would agree with you. But it is spam fairies, play tia, and elf when in hand. Then altered fate for PtP win. Hardly the most difficult thing out there.
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>Goetia Mage
>Necromancy (4): Destroy an enemy amulet.

to

Goetia Mage
Necromancy (6): Banish an enemy amulet.

y/n?
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>>162758365
>Anyo f those decks
>Skill or thought

>PTP
>Lmao altered fate

>Seraph
>lmao spam tehmis into seraph

>Sun
>Drop amulet
>Drop 4+ health minions

>elana
>drop amulet
>mindessly spam health minions

>Storm
>drop whatever hit face
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>>162758403

It's a Shadowflame that doesn't kill your minion.
The real text is:
"Select a friendly follower. Deal damage equal to its attack to all other followers."
>>
Evolved Nep
>>
I've been playing this game a lot recently!
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>>162758496
>Its worded like its a buff though.
The way it's worded it just sounds like if you've got a bunch of followers, and then one follower with 7 or whatever attack, then all your followers get 7 attack.

But it looks like people are claiming that the text is completely wrong to begin with. So I have no idea.
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>>162757937
>having fun with shadowverse
>decide to try other card games just to see what there is
>start having more fun with another game
damn
still like it a lot though
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>>162758610
the fuck are you on about? I only listed haven decks
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Alice when
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>>162758647
It's fine now. Amulet decks being in multiple meta decks may be a serious possibility, and 6 shadows is a great deal more expensive than 4
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>>162758365
PtP is literally tempo elf but with Altered fate and PtP instead of Cynthia and Wind god. A lot of the time they just win through Roach.
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>>162758717
Worst nep
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>>162758403
>>162758605
*to all other followers
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>>162758674
>Deck
>LMAO you play cards
>>
>>162758750
It is completely wrong. See >>162758705

It's the AoE you swordcucks always asked for.
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>>162758849
Goetia being a dead card when aria is pretty annoying.
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>>162758737
https://mobile.twitter.com/LilTunechi/status/800560633523695616
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>>162758982
Except that it's pretty garbage.
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>>162758793
Who the fuck even plays ptp Haven? That's like saying Neutral only Haven deck is the hardest to play.
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>>162758365
>Garuda is your only countdown reduction
What is Hallowed Dogma and Sister Initiate. You stagger your amulets and followers to make sure that you have a steady stream of threats dingus.
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>>162759063
You swordcucks would know.
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>>162758959
>Deck
>lmao the cards are designed in such a way they require no thought from the player

>LMAO
>DSHIFT
>ALL CARDS SPELLBOOST
>ALMOST ALL SPELL CARDS ALSO HAVE DRAW
>Spellboost doesn't for some reason increment the cost of the spells
>literally play wahtever
>Win
>>
>Overcosted Shadowflame in a game where minions actually scale into the late game, and there are no good cheap buffs
Unplayable. It's a CONDITIONAL 8 PP+ board clear. Board clears are played from behind, if you have a board as Sword, you're not behind, and there's no 3 attack (viable) follower that Sword plays. It's beyond awful, just play use Alex for big boards, Angelic for small boards, and force them to trade, which what Sword should be doing since it's THE board class.
>>
Please help I am retarded. What do these words mean?
Aggro is easy to understand, hit fast and hard to kill them asap.
Control I imagine is controlling the board by getting your guys out and destroying their guys.
But what does Tempo or Mid-range mean?
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>>162759063
why are sword shitter so entitled?

youre literally playing put follower to win class with positive win rates against everyone
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No class restriction on cards in deck Arena mode when?
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>>162759272
More importantly, Cerberus leader when?
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Important question, is shrine maiden wears any clothes? Because it looks like she wears nothing under her "armor"
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>>162759212
Tempo is just another word for aggro.
Mid range is aggro but with more expensive dudes so your curve changes to center around 3-6 costs instead of 1-3 costs of aggro decks.
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>>162759103
>>162759220
>"This card is good"
>Explain why it's not good
>"Like, UGH, YOU ARE SO ENTITLED"
>>
>>162759096
>storm only plays 3 amulets, two of them 2cd
>implying there's any depth to that compared to hare of illusions or adamantium birb
>>162759064
if a guy got into masters with it, it is viable
it simply isn't a budget deck like storm or banner sword
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People in A3 still disrespect the snake lizard.
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>>162759106
>Dshift
>require no thought from the player
this is my favorite meme
>>
>>162759272
The way it says Arena in the bottom menu and you then choose Take Two probably means they're at least planning for additional arena modes.
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>>162759448
Any vids? I'm genuinely curious how that even works.
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>>162759449
>meanwhile play dragon in C2
>they ALWAYS, ALWAYS kill mushussus on turn I put them, no matter how many wards I put
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>>162759424
>Tempo is just another word for aggro.
うわぁ
>>
>>162759449
He was probably auto-piloting into face hoping his Bird of Free Face Damage and Amulet Kill will save him.
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>>162759424
Tempo is more like midrange.
One way to think about it us that you're always ahead of the opponent and you try to use all your mana every turn to do that
>>
>>162759424
Combo is also just Control but with a finisher so why does everyone hate DShift for killing Control instead of just playing it themselves?
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>>162759461
Prove it wrong then.
>>
Shadowverse is an enjoyable game available on Steam and mobile devices
>>
I have every deck I want (seriously I have like 14) and I still want to open packs

help
>>
>>162759424
tempo = evolve last
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>can only win as dragon when facing other dragon decks
JUST
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>>162757172
seems to be working for me. played 5 and won 5 games since i posted asking for a deck list.

probably the most brain dead deck in the game. at least face blood is risky and requires you to think about how much health you would put yourself at.
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>>162759794
Can you buy packs for me and i open then on skype?
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>>162755784
>people didn't hate a class until it became unbearable

Gee I wonder why
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Why are they called tempo elf and midrange sword when tempo elf struggles to keep up with mid sword's tempo?
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>>162759902
What is this meme
>>
Did anyone have the list of cards you can safely dust?
>>
>>162756789
What's she saying?
>>
>>162759752
Because there is no absolute win condition other than face damage over time in other control decks.
Dshift is control but you control the board to get to a specific win condition which always happens at a certain time.
Control shadow vs control Blood for example can last on forever until someone runs out of answers. Doing that against Dshift and you just lose.
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>>162755784
are you touched in the head?
>>
>>162759103
>>162759220
Shit's expensive while having two conditionals (board and atk presence), conditional damage, self-board wiping, works terribly with the lil minions sword loves. It's not a good comeback mechanic because the pp required to make it a good board wipe from an empty board is horrendous.

Yes it can hit hard if you do like a 7pp play to evolve a 2drop for 4dmg AoE. But that burns so much resources that unless your opponent had massively overextended, you're gonna get your face pushed in next turn.


Man, I ain't a sword player, just stating the truth.
It's basically a worse Demonic Storm in most any situation, because that at least goes face.
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>>162760057
Since combo decks play similarly to control decks control fags could just play combo instead if that's the meta of the game, instead of being mad all the time and playing aggro to counter combo.
>>
>>162760038
"The pleasure of reducing your countdown"
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>>162760227
In master rank it's probably like that anyway, nobody is playing aggro and the people that would enjoy control probably are playing PtP and shit.
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>>162759423
Body stocking.
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>>162760227
Not everyone likes to play/has cards for Rune/Seraph or PtP.
>>
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=60378818
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Anyone else been seeing a massive amount of Hare of Illusions lately? Did someone win a tournament with it?
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>>162760443
This is not okay
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>>162760443
Delet-
>Rowen
Wait what
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>>162760442
Then they can try playing a deck slower than aggro and lose vs doom clock combo decks, or play aggro and be in time most games.
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>>162760089
Somewhat
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>get into ranked
>haven
>haven
>sword
>haven
>haven
>sword
lmao good game shadowbabs
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>>162759831
face blood is fine. ELF is your enemy
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help
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FAGGOT!
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>>162760443
Not sugoi, sugoi at all.
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>>162760443
T-thanks
I hope they allow Internet access in prison
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>>162760739
What the heck are you running anon?
I kinda wanna run it too if it works
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>>162760658
>free win
>free win
>50/50
>free win
>free win
>50/50
What's the problem?
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>>162760739
Turn 2 magic missile Turn 8 oding turn 9 erasmus turn 10 lucifer turn 11 reina.
Then you win the game.
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>>162760443
h-hear the dragon's roar....
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>play dragon
>lose
>play elf
>win

why?
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GO~~~~ BLOODKINS
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>>162760793
What is that?
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>>162760776
How useful is rise of the dead?
Never tried using it.
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>>162760846
>>162760827
it was arena, i didn't want the high costs but the other choices were dogshit

i lost
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>>162760793
>being in russia
wow, sucks to be you
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>>162760793
>he still doesn't know how to get around this

лмaoинг эт йop лaйф мaй мэн
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Rate from Rocket science to Braindead

Midsword, PTP forest, Elana seraph, DShift, Aggro blood, Midshadow, Ramp dragon
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>>162760867
>dub
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>>162760972
Tornis, please.
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>>162760739
Reina can work sometimes.
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>>162760850

because dragon sucks and elf is good
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>go first in a mirror match
>lose
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>>162761020
All rocket science, there, never bring this up again
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>>162761020
ptp elf
dshift
aggro blood
mid shadow
mid sword
ramp dragon
elana seraph
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>>162761020
Dshift, Ramp Dragon, Mid shadow PTP forest, Midsword, Aggro Blood, everything else, Elana Seraph
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>>162761020
ptp
tit shift
ramp
bloodm
midshadow
elana
midsword
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>>162761020
Dead, dead, dead, thinking man, dead, dead, thinking man.

Thinking man is a codeword for cuck.
t. Moot
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>>162760793
Хa хa вoт э фaгoт.

BПH нe paбoтaeт?
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>>162761105
I really wanted to try reina with sword but cost 8 pretty much nullifies it.

Having this many followers in the field let alone another evo orb at this point doesn't happen all the time.
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>first pick orb dragon and wyrm spire vs rites and flute
>second pick is pic related

H-hear the dragon's roar
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I dont think I'll make it to AA within 500 games ;_;
at about 380 now and not even A3 yet.
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>>162761280
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>>162761281
Orb dragon and hydra are both great.
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>>162760443
Man I hate it when the loli talks about their clit and stuff
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>>162761020
elana and midsword are utterly braindead
the rest is fine
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>>162761387
>Being gay
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It really makes you think...
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>>162761369
Hydra is not great, it's usually worse than a vanilla card.
And everything else is garbage

sasuga dragon
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>>162761354
give up cuckboy, the meta is too shit
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>>162760972
>>162761242
Дa paбoтaeт y мeня BПH, я щитпoщy o блoкиpoвкe пpocтo
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>>162761362
HEAR
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>>162761354
I chocked A2-A3 jump and now I'm chocking A3-A00 jump.

>winstreaks everywhere
>get to a border
>lose win lose win lose win for days
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What SV class would puppets/automatons belong to?
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>>162761607
shadow probably
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>>162761020
PtP Elf, DShit, Midshadow, Lolibats, Ramp Just, Elana Seraph, Midsword
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>>162761607
Runecraft no doubt.
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>>162761607
Rune.
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>>162761607
My dick.

I would like to claim them for Shadow though.
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>>162761495
yeah probably way easier when the game was new

>>162761583
>lose win lose win lose win for days
yeah me too, wouldn't even say choking, more like game cucking us out.
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>>162761607
Forest.
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wew topdecks
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how does sword fight dick shift?
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>>162761882
flood the board
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>>162761882
Hit face.
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>>162761882
Play nothing until turn 6 and then get Otohime to rub her feet on them
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>>162761882
Just play dudes lmao
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>>162760793
>>162760972
>>162761242
>>162761503
>>
Any decent aggro forest deck lists?

I couldn't care less for the snorefest that is tempo or ptp. I just want to get my shitty dailies done.
>>
Cygames: Hey senpai how do you want your dailies today?
Me: Just fuck my shit up.
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>>162761882
Pretend you're not asshurt.
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>>162761882
Stop playing banner.
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>>162760907
Quite useful. Especially useful for outdrawn matches or if you want to clog up your hand with Cerberus. The random part that got built into it can be circumvented rather simple.
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>>162761882
hit face until she bends over
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>tfw no crystal daddy to buy me tons of cards
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>>162761882
play the highest pp card in your hand each turn

i know it sounds mentally challenging for the average sword player
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>>162761607

Rune

they already have golems and shit unless they're possessed killer puppets or something in which case Shadow
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>>162761607
Flavor text from top left to bottom right:
>I am the perfect creation. A puppet with a beating heart. Amazing, isn't it? My master is a genius! Ahahaha!
>You stand against Master? Humph, then allow me to introduce you to Victoria. The master made a present of her to me. Adorable, isn't she?
>I'm... a replica? A failed facsimile? No... No, that cannot be. I am me. I am the perfect puppet, created by Master's own hand. I am perfect!
>Inferior to the original? Master said that of me? Then this world and all in it had no meaning. Kill them, Victoria. Kill them all!

>The world is vast. I only just learned this. There is much more I am only just learning, and much more yet to be learned. All is not a massacre.
>I thought I lost everything when I lost my master. I was wrong. Now, I finally understand. I lost my keeper, but gained my freedom.
>I do not know this city, but many here are kind, and others strange. Master said I must kill others, lest they kill me. I see now that is not the way of things.
>So, this is the world you have known, hero? You are kind to cast light on my ignorance. Perhaps it is you who are my true master.
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>>162762037
Slavs play pedogames, no surprise here.
>>
Why does Haven get so much banish and themis?
Her cards are already hard to remove with talismans and heals, and she also has rush/reductions to balance out delays.

I thought the whole point of talismans is that they're balanced out by being able to set up on them?
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>>162761882
stop playing cancer deck
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is there a maintenance or something? the game simply doesnt open on steam.
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>>162762451
Because fuck you
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Tales from AA0

That Goblin evolved next turn to go face
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Reply to this post with a screenshot of your profile
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>>162762451
>Delete themis and removals
>Now the class has nothing
wew
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>waiting for a response
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>>162761607
I don't appreciate you posting pictures of my girlfriend like this. Please stop
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>>162760038
Not a perfect translation, but something along the lines of:

"How is a budget aggro deck supposed to win?! Apologize!!!"

"Master, I'm so sorry for just summoning followers with ward......As an apology, please use me to satisfy your sexual desires....."
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>>162762662
>Class still has the best midrange deck and control deck
What did he mean by this
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>>162762738
Like her old hag pussy could satisfy anything

Bring me forte
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>>162762751
>Class still has the best midrange deck and control deck

sword?
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>>162762870
No
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>>162762835
>old hag
she's 23 at worst and whorte takes dragon dick
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>>162762835
Old but unused
Forte's taken plenty of dragon cocks already
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>>162760574
>>162760593
>>162760779
>>162760848
First I wanted to look at it, now not so much. What mah boi rowen is doing?
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>>162762918
you play sword?
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>>162763069
Enjoying some sweet Luna pussy
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>>162762940
>>162762960
Forte is a pure maidenly princess

Eris is a saggy old woman with a ultra-loose, hairy pussy unsatisfying even for an elephant
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>>162762870
What does sword have to do with this?
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>>162762451
It needs it in order to control long enough to get its amulets online. The class is based on having weak minions, but efficient hard removal and the unique mechanic of countdount last-words amulets. The problem with Haven is Elana, which buffs their mediocre early-game minions to become legitimate threats later on, all whilst healing face which Control Haven wants to do anyways no matter the variant.

What if Elana were 1PP, but the buffs only lasted until the end of the turn? Haven has multiple versions of control and a good aggro deck, but no traditional midrange.
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>>162763213
Luna go to sleep, we now how you hate Eris but we all know that she's better than (you)
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>>162763213
>Forte is a pure maidenly princess
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>>162763186
>You will never get to cum on an adventure with Luna

It hurts.
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>>162763223
>Delete themis and removals
>Now the class has nothing
>wew

>Class still has the best midrange deck and control deck
>What did he mean by this

>>Class still has the best midrange deck and control deck
>sword?

>What does sword have to do with this?
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>First B0 game
Jesus christ fucking kill me
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>mfw
what a cutie
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>>162763069
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>>162763260

teching ward into a haven storm build is king right now. Elana can be brought down in a mirror where you tech guardian fox. Elana/Seraph is on suicide watch right now!
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>>162763447
Even without Themis, Elana/Seraph would still be the best control deck, yes.
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>>162763524
I would Hare too anon.
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>>162762278
>replica
Oh I think I get it now
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>>162762738
"can't even win at all against a budget aggro deck, apologize!!"

"A-all I have is wards, I'm terribly sorry"
"As an apology then please use me for your sexual desires for as much as you want"

This is an old pic before DE.
When Eris just spammed Guardian into Satan.
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rest in peace solitaire
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AM I GOING TO LOSE?
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>>162763531
>tfw Luna will never rape you
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>>162762940
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>>162763672
storm maybe, elana/seraph? no way
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>>162763836
>Storm
>Control deck
Hwat
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>>162763754
>Soul Dealer in constructed
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>>162763917
how do you play a control deck without removals?
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>>162763803
Shut teh fuck up pedo
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>>162763993
I can't afford the last Bloody Mary
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>>162763775
guess not
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>>162764013
Storm isn't a control deck you stupid ESL
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>when you face Control Blood unexpectedly and they stabilize with Azazel then just win with that and a Alucard next turn
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>draft two Olivias in T2
>never draw any
>ended 4-1 cuz they were the last 6 cards in my last match
I feel robbed.
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>>162763531
Wtf, rowen is for memes not lewds, this is not okay
>>
guys is the elana nerf real?
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>>162764069
>when they don't have removal for Azazel

Most satisfying feel right behind Revelating a bunch of my opponent's resources.
This deck is awesome.
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>>162764067
ok storm is not control, now

>Even without Themis, Elana/Seraph would still be the best control deck, yes.

how
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>>162764028
>girl's name
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>>162764248
>Stay at 20 health with buffed followers
>Use wards and Priest to remove threats
>Drop Seraph on turn 8, win on turn 9
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>>162763743
Ah, I got it. Yeah, your translations is way more accurate than mine haha
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Finally I can stop running Lord of the Flies.
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if you are going to theorycraft or talk balance then you should be obligated to type what your rank is in the name field

y/n?
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>>162763803
Die now ape
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>>162764462
Who?
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> Fanfare: Give all allied followers resistance to targeted enemy spells and effects.

Is this effect permanent or only as long as she stays on the field?
>>
What is your win rate with discardragon?
>>
Best meme deck to play? Preferably one that enrages my opponent, don't care if it even has a win condition.
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>>162764553
I'm assuming permanent. otherwise, it would say so.
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>>162764553
Permanent.
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>>162764496
Yes, I'm masters btw
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>>162764553
it's permanent

I don't think I've ever won against her cause the hagfags usually play her after evolves have ran out
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>>162764639
dirt rune
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>>162763531
>titty luna
umm fuck off?
>>
>>162764553
Permanent. But it's fanfare, so only for the followers already on the board when she's summoned.
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>>162764546
Ward.
Last Words: Destroy the enemy follower with the highest attack, chosen randomly among the enemy followers with the highest attack in case of ties. Heal your leader for an amount of health equal to the destroyed follower's attack.

Rolls functions from all of LotF's shit together at less value but more consistency and craft synergies.
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>>162764716
Fuck you flatman
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>>162764716
Draw your own Luna if you're not happy
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>>162764553
>>162764691
Do people use her? I guess I wouldn't know b/c I'm only C2
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4 fucking forests in a fucking row. WHY THE FUCK DO I KEEP GETTING PAIRED AGAINST THESE ASSHOLES!
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>>162764851
Yes but she's not mandatory, plenty of Haven don't run her. She might become more relevant after RoB drops tough due to all the new removal cards
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>>162764851
yeah

>themis the board
>drop a bunch of angels that heal you
>angels get +1/1 from Elana, become fat
>drop her
>can't DoD ;^)

this is the only game where healing not only comes at no cost whatsoever, but buffs your characters on top of healing them
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>>162764806
Dies to banish
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>tfw you will never reward Luna with cummies for being a good girl
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>>162764951
t.banner moron
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>>162764991
I compare Elana to Conjuring Force and cry.
>>
>tfw the elf player does everything wrong with a perfect hand
Is this what being sandbagged feels like?
kimochii
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>>162765127
Elana is the strongest talisman in the game only rivaled by banner because that one procs storm followers.
>>
We need more bara cards
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>>162765217
>Not PtP
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>>162765127
I know the feeling.
>Imagine snowmen being 3/3 instead of 3/1
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>>162765217
Roost is stronger, but none knows the power of meme decks
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>aw shit dsfhift petrified my PtP
>still win with a roach kill
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>>162765217
1.- Beta harvest
2.- PTP
3.- Banner
4.- Maybe elana
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>>162765274
>>162765427
I was thinking of buffing ones like rogue and banner. Should have specified.
If we start including the rest aria should be pretty high on bullshit.
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Please stop calling Dshift deck a solitaire, it really hurts my feelings.
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>>162765514
no it doesn't
Stop false flagging
>>
>>162765427
t. Elanatumor
>>
Does sandbagging work? If your goal is to maximize score rewards?
>>
>>162765427
you got those backwards
>>
>>162765634

if your goal is to keep your win streak score bonus and not queue 100% of the time into no fun allowed netdecks and get maybe one win every four hours then yeah, it works
>>
>>162765634
>sandbag for -20 for hours to keep your +50 in the few games you play not sandbagging
or
>play normally for 100s
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>>162765556
B-but i'm not falseflagging, i'm playing games with Dshift right now
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>>162765858
>playing solitaire with myself right now
fixed :)
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>"Fat people are evil!"
What the fuck Cygames?
>>
>>162766038
>t. fat person
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>>162766038
What are those guys in the back doing?
>>
>>162766038
LARD GARGLIN'
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HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR
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>>162766038
They're not wrong.
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>>162765512
>buffing banner

oh, so you play sword
>>
>>162764553

just played a test game with this bitch and holy FUCK it makes everything on your side untargetable by spells including herself and it's fucking permanent

still dies to decree
>>
>>162766038
>Drain on the economy
>Waste doctor time for things that could be easily solved
>Take 2 seats on an airplane
>Require the world to tell them they're fine, otherwise they'll abuse the legal system

They're pretty evil
>>
>>162766038
>tfw you will never tear a fairy in half with your dick
>>
>>162766038
Yeah Fat people are disgusting pigs
>>
if they don't nerf elana in RoB will the game die?
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>>162765634
pretty sure it does
if you look at the top wins/class you'll see a lot of people in lowers ranks too
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>>162766113
SOIYA!
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>>162766169
How did you become so stupid? Were you dropped on your head as a child?
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>>162766307
Unlikely.
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>>162766307
elana will get replaced by other op shit in rob so we'll have new things to whine about
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>>162766169
are you literally this assblasted about sword that you become mentally retarded anytime sword is mentioned in a post? read the post again and then kill yourself
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>>162766307
Yes, literally nobody likes playing against it
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Can a Dirtrune deck be played without any Pamelas? I only have one.
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>>162766307
If Elana gets nerfed you'll just find something else to blame your losses on
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Every single opponent so far in arena has disconnected on me. This is the 4th game in a row. Just accept your loss, man.
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why people hate elana so much?
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>>162766629
>japs
>accepting loss
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>>162766629
>Giving your opponent a win when they didn't deserve it
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>>162766681
Have you not played against her or what?
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So will I only ever get 2 missions a day until I take care of pic related? Just what do I link it to, anyway?
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>>162766629
I auto dc vs dshift in every unranked match. Costs me no time and makes them wait for the DC timer to collect their free win.
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How do I improve my mid shadow? It feels like removing any card will cause a disastrous chain reaction of lost synergies, and every card has been the reason for me winning games at some point. I feel like my main issues are in my 4-drops and it being a little unreliable to go aggressive when I match against PtP or dshift.
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>>162766781
Phone, tablet, an android emulator might work too.
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>>162766781
Facebook/Googleplay/Gamecenter
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>>162766681
>Best removal in the game
>Unlimited draw
>50+ HP
>Overstatted followers
>Instantly win on turn 9
>Most likely players to DC on you even if you somehow manage to win
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>>162766781
facebook or twitter. It doesn't work on the steam version though so you'll have to use a phone or emulator.
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>>162766781
Link it to your phone, if you have one.

I play mostly on my phone while at work
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Are there any whales here?
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>win 1 match as Runecraft
>replace
>win 1 match as Havencraft
I'm sorry everyone
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>>162767007
I paid 12 bucks, does it counts?
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>>162767007
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>>162766681
People don't like losing yet pick weak decks
Or play strong decks and play badly
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>>162766906
>>Most likely players to DC on you even if you somehow manage to win
That one is just funny.
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>>162766781
Does this happen automatically? Like is this a daily mission or something? I linked my steam account to my phone already and don't remember getting three packs
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>>162767007
I'm more of a dolphin. I only recharge my steam wallet to do daily 50s every now and then.
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ISLAND WHALE>>162767101
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>>162754393
No because Control Sword has no win condition. Exhausting your opponent's resources is the worst kind of control deck. It gets destroyed by combo decks and often fails to prevent early game aggression.

They would have to add a ridiculous turn eight card to make it worth it. Had Leonidas been an amulet to begin with, then Control Sword would be strong, but even that isn't Control. It would just be a combo deck where you have all the storm cards waiting to do a giant finisher. It would probably be somewhat like Banner.
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So should I make PTP/Tempo Elf or Midrange Sword? I have about 13k dust lying around, and have a lot of the cards for both, but the problem is for PTP/Tempo, I can make cards for two decks because I have all of the rares for PTP except Roach, and Roach goes easily into Tempo who I otherwise have most of the rares for, but have never really played Forest before, so I won't know how much I'll be good at it or enjoy it.

I've played Sword before, but I only have 1 Otohime and 1 Aurelia for legendaries. I have all the rares and shit for Sword, but with the amount of removal next expansion, while I think Midrange is fine, I'm not too sure Otohime will make it over someone like Albert who may take her place, so I'm hesitant to drop 7k more dust on a full Otohime set.
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>>162766862
>>162766872
>>162766946
>>162766976
>>162767136
>tfw my phone is too old to run this game

Guess I'd better look for an android emulator. Thanks for all the quick answers
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>>162767221
Every thread
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>>162767007
I bought that discounted crystal pack and sold enough steam trading cards to buy 50 crystals for the daily deal once.
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>>162766131
Awwwwwww yeah.
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>>162767124
t. Elana shitter

Look at the winrates, when you say weak decks you mean anything that isn't Dshit compared to Elana.
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>>162766860
I'm no expert, but I'll share mine. I'd like to hear people's thoughts as well.
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>>162767363
>Look at the winrates, when you say weak decks you mean weak decks
No fucking shit
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>>162767351
[ROAR]
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>>162767437
>everybody should play 1 deck and only 1 deck

You don't even deny being the cancer
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>>162767351
Get the camera
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>>162767436
>>162766860
it's been working pretty well for me so far, but i fell that 3x LoF and 2x Moredcai are unnecessary
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C-can someone give me a good dragon list?
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Need a quick concede, pls kthx

42508
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what decks are approved by svg?
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>>162767516
>I hate losing
>but I hate adapting to my opponent even more
>rrrrrr those dastardly haven players forcing me to use odin and amulet destruction
>NEVER
>I will keep losing and blogposting in /svg/
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>2days in pic related

Wow this game is very generous!!! Can't wait for the expansion!
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>>162767812
None
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>>162767719
Look up discard dragon. Don't believe the memes.
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>>162767294
just become friend with an arab and get a cheap counterfeit
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>>162767812
DIscard dragon
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>>162767812
Discard Dragon
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>>162767812
ptp haven and rose forest
no one has ever bitched about them in /svg/
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>>162767812
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>>162767516
60% of the game is decided by which cards you pick. If you know what cards will win, have them, yet don't pick them, you only have yourself to blame for your losses. The purpose of the game is to win; why would you complain about players trying to achieve this the most efficiently? Either pick those cards or pick the cards that beat them. If you refuse to do so, it isn't those players' fault that you lose.
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>>162767812
Rose queen forest
Ambush sword
Aggro rune
Discard dragon
Tyrant shadow
Vengeance blood
Sun satan haven
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>>162767007

i will drop 2.000€ on christmas eve in preparation for the new expansion. Before you ask, I'm working for the government.
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>>162768036
>WOOOOOOW stop complaining about a deck that has only 2 counters, like, UGH
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>>162767851
Nice mate.
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>>162768069
>two whole eurobux
your secret is safe with me
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>>162767748
pls respond
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Anyone else excited as fuck to use Face Rune once the expansion hits?

>three Levi
>Conjuring Force
>snowmen everywhere
>three of that new card that summons the levi fireball
>three of that new removal that does 2 damage to face
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>recommending discard dragon to new players

Stop being mean anons.
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>>162768243
Sent
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>>162767873
Usually the decks I find are outdated, could someone spoonfeed me?
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>>162768069
Euro is going to implode soon so i guess investing into less fake currency is a good idea.
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>>162767812
I think all decks are OK. I like playing against all of them, even stuff like PtP Forest and Elena. People complain too much. I play four classes if that matter.
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Can anyone redpill me on why this card is considered so good?

Long story short, I'm abandoning my DS deck I used for ranked and I've decided to run Forestcancer, since by incredible luck, I have majority of cards I need for it. I'm missing just 2x Mystical Elf (will have to do without these), 1x Rhino, 1x Cynthia and 3x Liza. I also have enough vials for 2 golden cards. So, should I just disregard Lisa completly and finish filling up on Rhinos and Cynthias or should I instead focus on adding 2 Lizas?

Truth to be told, I don't really like Liza. But then again, I never had a chance to use her, so I cannot fairly judge her.

What should I do?
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>>162767812
Ramp dragon
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>>162767957
>>162767970
What about Flute Dragon? That's my main deck.
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>>162768406

it enables ancient elf
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>>162768406
No
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>>162768313
It might be shit, but is it at least fun?
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>>162766860
Pluto's in a bad spot in this meta, the only deck she hits very well is Elana since most of the meta runs wide instead of high, and in that scenario Odin is better. I assume you're working on a budget and that your build is incomplete though, so I recommend prioritizing the third Cerberus first. Burial Grounds just isn't worth running, and your deck doesn't have a strong enough end game to want Bellringers on top of the Skullcradles you're running. You need to identify what kind of game you want to play when everything goes right before you start patching up match ups, Rabbit Necromancer is a good card but you should be running a defensive 3 drop looking at the rest of your list.
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>>162768504

your deck is SHITTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>>162768339
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck-archetype/face-dragoncraft

I'm sorry, no one deserves to be told to play discard.
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>>162768601
>losing cause you have no cards to play
>fun

yeah if you're a masochist.
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>>162768406
It's a 2PP 2/2 that doesn't lose out on any stats in exchange for assfucking DShift, Dragon, and anything running Angelic Barrage.
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>>162768672
Hopefully this deck list isn't shit. I'm gonna do it
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>>162768270
You are going to be the biggest cancer in the game.
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>>162767007
I wouldn't call myself a whale knowing what Moby Dicks spend, but I've dropped 200~ dollars in since DE released and I'll probably buy about as much again when RoB is out depending on how much my gold rolls get me.
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>>162768340
It's not just the euro, the entire global economy will probably get hit by a recession sometime next year. I won't say it's a certainity but I will say the odds are very high. And it's not gonna be pretty, considering we haven't really recovered from the previous one.
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>>162768785
It's by far the easiest dragon deck to play. Just go face. Be careful with Scholar that you dont attack and lose a card you needed.
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>mfw i play dirt rune vs a forest cuck
feels good to out cancer these shitters for once
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>>162767846
No matter how much you're going to twist it or throw in some retarded suggestions, nothing is going to change the fact that the deck and anyone who plays it are pure cancer.
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>tfw you get outskilled by an Elana haven with a 10/10 and 6/5 on board by turn 5
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>>162768146
There's a difference between complaining about a deck and complaining about players using that deck.
If you know what the counters are, why don't you use them?
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>>162768969
dirtrunes are the only deck I respect.

keep it up anon.
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Remember to have children with your maid
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>deal 50 damage to the Elanashitter's face
>lose
How the FUCK
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You have to design 1-2 cards that make Discard Dragon playable.
What do you make?
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Faggot BARELY beats me in arena after having to burn EIGHT evo-points

I was about to go five-wins again too. Just cockblocked at the last game due to faggot getting lucky. What kind of a retard would actually draft Rise of The Dead?
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>5 gold away from vampy
why did they have to give me two twenty gold missions

still 2 hours away from mission 3
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>>162768406
At baseline she's a 2/2 for 2 that can't be removed by anything that does damage the turn it comes out and later scales into keeping your whole board safe from shit like WotF, Demonic Storm and all of Rune's and Dragon's removal bar Sieg.
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>>162769196
A 1/3 follower that draws a card every time you discard one
A 3/3 follower that is played onto the field if it is discarded
You can thank me later
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>>162769058
>I will keep losing to elana with my midrange deck without teching in any odins, carniplants, goetia mages or executes over DoD
it's your winrate, not mine
or should I say loserate?
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>>162769196
>1PP
>When this card comes into play, you lose.
It'll speed the process up.
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>>162765217
>What is leonidas' win condition?
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>>162769175
It's b-balanced b-because he has to leave himself exposed on turn 2 when he plays Aria so he can play hallowed dogma next turn. :^)
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>>162769196
Uriel
Imperial Dragoon
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>>162769196
Fairy circle and fairy whisperer
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>>162769196
1pp 1/2
Everytime you discard a card, restore 1 defense to your leader

2pp 1/2
Everytime you discard a card, gain 1 play point
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>>162769289
>all of Rune's and Dragon's removal
>fiery embrace
>kaleido
>calamitous
>petrify
>winter's caprice
>rimewind
>price of magic
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>>162769162
You mean maid(s) right
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Could someone help me out with an updated aggro blood deck?
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>>162769305
Keep making excuses, cancer.
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>>162769196
1-2 cards that say "when this card is discarded, return it to your deck". Or better yet, one card that says "when this card is in your hand, all other cards you discard return to your deck instead of becoming shadows".
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>>162768585

If that's the case and I only have 1, would it be better to ignore her altogether and craft Rhino and Cynthia instead?
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>>162769489
Half of those still leave you with bodies on board that you can buff with wind god/cynthia and lmao at Kaleido, yeah, bounce my roaches/may/liza to my hand so I can use them again.
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>>162769521
>blood
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>>162769382
Something that activates on turn 10 at the earliest which is two turns after the game ends.
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>>162769521
Wait for Veight to save you
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>>162769521
this, I'm getting sick of using banner, stormhaven, and elana seraph to climb
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>>162769676
Still it's the strongest talisman bar Seraph and PtP in terms of strength and winning games.
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>>162769587
>excuses
I don't think you know what that word means
Does teaching you how to counter elana count as an excuse?
I mean of course I could tell you to git gud but you clearly tried that already and failed
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>>162769521
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>>162769751
Doesn't matter how strong it is when it's not viable. Control sword runs it and it's a tier 3 deck.
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>>162769587
You want people to purposefully pick worse cards so you can have a better chance of winning. How childish can you be?
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>>162769621

ancient elf is a staple early game card, you can't play elf efficiently without it. You need it.
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>>162769853
Why is blood so cheap to build?
i may throw this together just for shiggles.
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>>162769751
If it can't be reliably activated, no it isn't
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>>162769845
>counter
>implying you can counter 50 hp
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>>162769196
>1 cost
>3/3
>when this card is discarded summon it, this card cant be summon from the hand
Seems good desu
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>>162769710
kys
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>play banner
>matched against elana only

>play dshift
>matched against blood aggro and ptp rune with way better draws than mine
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>>162769965
Just use Seraph, then it doesn't matter how much HP they have :^)
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>>162769859
No. I don't want one deck to be retardedly better than the rest with absolute 0 effort put into it.
I have no complains about any other deck.
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>>162769965
>implying you have to counter 50 hp when you don't have 12/12s breathing down your neck
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>>162769853
Thank you so much anon!
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>>162770005
I would say make it 3pp.
That way you have to build around it and it's hard to drop early game otherwise.
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>destroy two elana's
>still lose
so what's the counterplay again
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>>162770032
>play banner
>matched against elana only
?
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>>162769162
Gross. I don't want some peasant girl tainting my noble line!

Maids are for sexual pleasure and nothing more
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>>162770034
Nah m8, Seraph is shit because people just tech Odin :^).
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>>162770118
>>162769175
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>>162770108
not putting 5pp spells into an aggro deck, retard
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>play against forest PtP
>they fuck me over big time
>play PtP myself
>get fucked big time
>play against sword
>otohime sage combo all the time
>play sword myself
>the fucking slut and the faggot never comes and when they do the opponent destroy most of the bodyguards already
>see people playing aggro blood and getting easy wins
>play this shit myself and people bring a billion wards

This game was made to make me furious.
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>>162770108
First you need to Git Gud
Then you need to stop letting them set up a board.

Elena's is a Mid-Late game deck. if you can't burst the fuck out of them before turn 6 then you need to change your gameplan to board control. Kill anything on the board straight away before elana's buffs it out of control.
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>>162770065
>I don't want one deck to be retardedly better than the rest with absolute 0 effort put into it.
If that was the case, you'd only complain about the balance. But instead you also complain about the players taking advantage of that deck, even tough those players have no influence on the balance of the game. When you start complaining about the players' choice of decks, it implies you want them to use a different deck.
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>>162770108
Only idiots unironically advise to remove elana. None of the current talisman removals are economic enough for that. You suffer a tempo loss compared to elana just from using the removal and he doesn't even lose any of its existing benefits.

There's like one deck in the game that can nuke elana in economic fashion and that's it.
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Is there a limit on how many times you can change your name?
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>>162770224
>monkey see monkey do
rofl
typical netdeckers
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>>162770203
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/49/0/26

Banner counters elana and is one of the two decks that counter elana-seraph (other is dshift). Git gud.
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>only time I've beaten an Elana Haven in the past 10 times I've faced one is because they've disconnected

XD
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>>162770260
>Do this
>Get Seraphed while they're at 20 HP
????????
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>>162768406
She can literally stall PtP out one turn if your opponent runs it. Also good if you lay her doen at the right time before Dshift has a big removal turn. She's a big reason wind blast is getting supplemented with the costly spell boost removal.

And she stalls the rarer barrage for elf/Cynthia setup.
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>>162770108
I find that removing followers is way better than removing Elana in the match up personally.
>>
Madame Lich / Lord of the Flies
Or
Death's Breath / Phantom Dragon

Left, right?
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>>162770268
No I want them to die. They're already beyond saving.
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>get banner
>win against elana

And now shitters are complaining about something
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>>162770086
3pp is to much and would make it shit if you wanted to make it balance then you could make it 2pp that way it has a chance at dropping at least if you have other 2pp cards in hand
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>>162770260
>cant burst them before turn 6
>aria pops
>rabbit healer
>rabbit healer
>holy water
>7/7, 5/3, 5/3, 4/3 in one turn
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>>162770406
See First Step

If they're landing seraph then you're getting btfo by Elana's with even less support for the heal setup. Seraph Elena is using Elana to keep you busy while they set up. Rush harder.
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>>162770260
>board control
>against a deck with insane card draw, value followers and good control options
>with a tick tock wincon
You don't control it, Elana is the control deck.
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>yfw you play elana
Feels good
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>>162770224
lolol, I know the feeling. I was getting fucked hard by elana haven players using my mid sword deck, so I finally caved and made an elana seraph myself. But I used I started getting fucked by PtP elves, who I had been destroying before with mid sword XD
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>>162769853

how the fuck do you stop this deck
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>>162770260
>just don't let them set up lmao
>dude just kill their 8/8 followers on turn 5 easy
>dude just play Odin and Execution
>lmao you can kill them on turn 3 because they have to set up with amulets

They never ever run out of heals and cards because every second card has either heal, card draw or both. And let's not forget about 3 free board resets without drawbacks and at least 6 banishes.
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>>162770663
Beat it in the early game and snowball the midgame
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>>162770663
Angelic barrage and wards
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>>162763993
>He doesnt do the soul dealer demon commander laura madman combo
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>>162770663
foul tempest, spartoi soldier, death's breath
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>>162770474
>have to play a single deck for the rest of your life in the game because another deck has 55%+ winrate against every other deck
really makes you think
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>>162770584
>I keep running into aggro and even after removing their shit with baldy they deal 10 damage over the next 2 turns via burn and storm
it was a lot better 1 month ago, all the forestfags made people switch to aggro
bloody knife ears
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>>162770576
>j-just play aggro...
Wow man, you sure convinced me that the deck isn't broken when the only way to beat it is to play aggro or Dshift
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>>162753410
I still don't know how to use you
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please concede to me!

61240
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>>162770663
Defensive 3 drops mostly.
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>Vanish like the jews!
What the fuck Cygames
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>>162770663
Early ward, barrage, a good 4 drop evolve.
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>>162769196
>2pp 2/4 Dragon
>When you discard this card special summon it in face up attack position
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>>162770769
>55%
yes from you asshole
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>play shadow
>haven
>haven
>rune
>haven
>rune

>switch to sword
>10 games win streak
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>>162770794
thank you very much!
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>>162770323
>You suffer a tempo loss

>can drop a 1/1 and make it a 4/4 with a ward that you then have to trade your whole board for otherwise it will be a 9/9 next turn when they feel like it
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>>162770663
by playing as usual blood is shit
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>>162770809
The jew fears the samurai.
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>>162770791
>i have never played a competitive card game before

One deck controls the meta, you get 2-3 counter decks with bad matchups against each other, and a deck that bops the counter decks. Then a new FOTM comes along and unseats the current top dog.
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>>162770794
>>162770949
Next time will cost you anon!
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>>162770924
>Rune
I beat dshift all the time, dirtrune gives me problems but they're rare.
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This thread become /hsg/ but with shitters talking abouth ''balance''.

I hope these guys grow-up soon.
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>>162770920
You can check it yourself anon
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>>162770980
And this makes it okay why?
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>>162770793
Play Elana then play Unica. Her free heal every turn will buff you every turn. Of course the opponent won't want that to happen, so for all intense purposes she'll be a Ward
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>>162771047
I'd prefer it if the thread was nothing but cute pictures of Luna, Arisa, Erika, and Vampy.
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>>162771091
because this isn't rock paper scissors, there are actually many variables
if you can't adapt, go play CoD
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>>162771061
>Dragon is third best against it
Hear the Dragon's roar!
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>>162755064
All the card voice lines are tucking ridiculous especially girls who have ward they are the worst.
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>>162771218
>because this isn't rock paper scissors
lol...
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>>162771047
What really bothers me isn't people talking about balance, I mean I can't really prove my judgment is better than theirs or whatever. What really bothers me is that it's so fucking obvious how many of these people are obviously coming in from Hearthstone showing little to no practical experience from other card games and start evaluating cards on Hearthstone standards, like the idea that passing a turn when you have cards to play could be good is completely foreign to them.
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>>162771091
It's like complaining that a FPS has guns, or that a boardgame contains RNG.
It's how the genera works out. Work around it or leave.

If you really dislike it, check out a netrunner player called Timmy Wong, try and copy some of his ideas. He's known for taking homebrew stuff to worlds and trashing meta decks.
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>tfw I went 1-4 in T2 and literally went against decks that could go 5-0 with the insane about of luck and answers they had
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>>162770980
>I've only played Hearthstone: the post

The idea is supposed to be that you have several top decks with good and bad matchups, not just one deck that everyone else builds their decks around. If one deck is controlling how every other deck plays, that's not normal or good, that's the literal definition of an unhealthy meta.

t. someone who's actually played and competed in other card games
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>>162770980
No, I have a better idea, why not I just play the same fucking deck so I don't have to lose.
Hell let's make it the only deck in the game because why not.

For example, if you have a slightly stronger follower card you can still remove it with other different followers with each deck. As of right now only TWO (2) cards can do something about Seraph and if that sounds ok to you you're a retard.
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>>162771261
bad VA is what gives them the ward effect
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>>162770980
Current ranked system is fucked for this kind of mechanics. We are not playing in tournament format where you know what your opponent brings and have multiple options of your own.
When you are queuing you have no option to chose which decks you are playing so you are either at massive advantage or disadvantage by power of random.
Game either needs BO3 format with sideboards (which isn't happening because mobage) or better balance with far less rock paper scissors.
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>>162771218
>S-Stop whining, let me play my OP deck in peace...p-please....
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>>162771061
>this pic
Are you trying to prove that you are a retard?
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>>162771218
>just adapt

I like this one. You jumping ship to the newest OP FOTM is your way of adapting too I guess?
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>>162771349
>letting haven live for 9 turns with 3 resets in hand
LOL
>>162771397
post your deck
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does anyone have that pompous princess edit.

you know the one
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>>162771309
The card pool is probably still going to be too small for practical homebrews after RoB. I have a lot of faith in the game and I think things are reasonably balanced, but netdecks dominating seems to just be a matter of course for the foreseeable future. There're only so many archetypes and synergies in the game, and I'm convinced that we've explored every one of them that're available right now at least. It'll be another few sets before the pool's big enough for some guy to show up at the tournament and play 3 Beast Dominators out of nowhere and support to sweep.
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Can someone post somekind of budget forest deck? It's the only class that is actualy fun but everything on the net is like 20k vials.
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>>162771401
t. havencuck

keep thinking your deck is balanced if it helps you sleep at night
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>>162771330
I know that feel and it's awful.
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I need someone to concede to me. Please, help a fellow anon out!

44971
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>>162770260
This only works with control blood.

No other deck has the ability to deal with shit like a radiance angel + 2x rabbit healer turn or the likes.
Revelation is the only thing that lets them do that, while they set up for a massive burst kill.
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>LUL GUYS I'M RETARD AND THINK THAT I'M THE UNLUCKEST PERSON ALIVE
>CHOSE A DECK DON'T TEACH AGASINT ANYTHING
>LOSE
>DO BAD DRAFT
>LOSE
>PLAY POORLY AND JUST THORW MY MINIONS ON CURVE
>LOSE
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>>162771346
I play Netrunner at a national level and aGoT2 at a regional level. Same shit happens, CtM is the cancer in netrunner at the moment. Lanny Jumpers used to be for AGOT but, shit look! It just got bopped and now Night's Watch is all over
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>3 mushussu, 2 sea queen, 1 neptune, 1 wyvern cavalier, satan, odin and others.

Well, that was a unexpectedly nice run.
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>>162771471
no, I have played haven only since steam release
I didn't have to switch, I MADE it on my first day in response to cancer that is sword and forest
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>Play ptp forest
>Eat all the elanas for breakfast
Feels good to not be a shitter
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>>162771472
>Letting the class with the best removal and healing live until turn 9
What did he mean by this?
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99713 please daily.
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>>162771571
>t. havencuck
Such argument with a meme pic you should be proud of you retard
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h-hear the dragon's roar
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>>162771648
>made
>implying you didn't netdeck straight to the highest winrate deck
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>>162771673

thank you anon
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>>162771528
Yeah, that's probably true, but switching up a few cards is enough to throw someone off. My D-shift deck was having a bit of trouble with seraph if my Shift was running a bit slow, so i swapped 2 embrace for Execution. I started getting my combo more often as i had less spellboost cards, and i suddenly had an answer for elena's and bannermeme too.
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>>162771648
>Havenfags thinking their shit doesn't stink
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So is Erasmus completely worthless now? Pluto removes shit the new card doesn't and Beast Dominator doesn't even really compete with Sadistic Night, but Erasmus is a control finisher in the first place so like, why not run the card that's only 1pp over to summon him without going dead early?
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>>162771095
>intense purposes
this one's new
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>>162769196
If Dragonclaw Amulet increases discard damage to 2*discarded card and not discarded cards +1 I'd say that we'll certainly see a rise of discard dragons next expansion.
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Hey guys there is a deck that is really strong and one card that destroy completely it. What i should do? i guess just trhowing my minions on curve and hope to win without the card is the ansewr .
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Fury has to be the most overrated piece of shit card in the game. You are not having 2+ cards on the field, period.
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>>162771670
>themis blocks your storm followers and spell damage
>themis leaves their followers alive
>healing is free and they dont save healing prayers for seraph to come
>>162771795
imply all you want my man, I didn't even know about your petty power rankings when I constructed it from my starting packs
really makes you think
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Just play Bannermemes, Aggro Bats or Forest. There, Elana is dead.
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>>162769710
brain damaged waste of life
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>>162771848
Thanks, I thought nobody would notice my dumb pun
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I love Swordcraft girls
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>>162771587
somebody, please!
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>>162770006
>>162771935
What do you people use on constructed?
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>>162771330
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
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>>162771935
Fuck off
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>>162771917
If you didn't know about power rankings, how did you know it's a "response" to forest and sword?
You don't know shit about anything on the first day in beginners rank unless you specifically check it.
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I'm bored of this game
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>>162771917
No really what did he mean by this
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>Forest is playable
>Sword is playable
>Rune is playable
Reminder that all the people complaining about Haven are pedocucks who only want to play Luna or Vania and are mad that the strongest girl in the game is the oldest one. Do NOT reply to pedo posters.
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>>162771658
>be ptp forest
>see elana haven run out of followers
>they start stalling
>get 2 Odins into my hand with ptp elf's draw power
>turn 8
>drop it faggot, I fucking dare you
>drops it
>Odin it
>concedes
fuck hags
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>>162772125
>shadow and blood are bad
Someone who say that is retard too
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>>162771917
>I-I d-don't care about petty power rankings
>t-that's why I play the strongest deck in the game
>I a-adapted a-all b-by myself

Amazing.
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>>162771998
Too bad she's unplayable.
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>>162771639
There's a huge difference between a deck that feels like cancer to play against and a deck that is so powerful and cancerous that all other decks exist only in relation to it

I fully admit that I haven't played either of those games you mentioned, but I do have experience with national and regional tournaments in card games and I stand by the fact that "one singular OP deck and a bunch of other decks to try to counter it" is not how a meta is meant to function
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>>162772067
>being a swordtard
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>>162772125
why would vampy complain about Haven
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Do you people really only play one deck/class?
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>>162772125
GLORY BE!
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>>162772067
Just unninstal and stop playing againt pirate warrriors or maybe quit card games some people just don't like these games;.
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>>162772067
>All those bad cards

I wouldn't be having fun with that deck either anon.
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>>162772302
I only play Shadow in ranked, but I have functional Sword, Rune, and Blood decks for dailies.
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>>162772286
It's a strawman, it doesn't need to make sense
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>>162772064
>play basic deck in unranked
>run into midrange otohimeme
>well shit that sucks, how do I deal with a board?
>get themis
>run into forest
>board clears dont do shit against storm, I need healing but healers are understatted, wat do?
>check elana
>shieeeeeeet
>still lose to ramp and their stream of bullshit 10pp followers
>seraph is a perfect win condition against these suckers
I guess it's hard for you to relate to someone with more IQ than chromosomes, but bear with me for a moment
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So what's the definitive deck in the meta anyways? PtP Forest? DShift feels like it has the largest effect on what's run and not run on a single deck, but DShift's largely a consequence of PtP Forest itself.
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>>162772194
It's what all the shadow and blood players say tough
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>>162772232
Agreed, from a design PoV a meta with 1 deck + counters is a failed meta. But it's how a lot of smaller games end up. Heck this even happened to Magic with both OGJace and Eldrazi
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Such a cool design. Wish it was good
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>>162772439
>PtP elf
>Midsword
>Elana
>D shift is a counter deck
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>>162772481
I keep a playset of him around, feels like an inevitability that Shadow will someday have the outlets to abuse him.
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>I wish Flame-chan was here
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next thread will be a forte thread
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>>162772481
Won me 1 (one) arena game.
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>>162772430
You could have made this slightly believable, you know
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>>162772595
That sideboob makes me want to make a D-shift deck
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>>162769292
Subtle as fuck.
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>>162772595
>my back hurts
>wonder what is my father doing now
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>>162772642
Not everyone can reach the same conclusions as me after playing just a few games, I guess it comes from CCG experience
I bet you didn't even reach AA0 until you had 600 wins
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>>162772302
used to only play aggro shadow but i started playing bats today and its fun
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>>162772749
wew now this is just getting euphoric
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>>162772749
Talk, talk, talk, that's all you are, son
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>>162769196
they're already in the expansion
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>>162772604
I'll make the new thread now
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>>162772067
Of course you're bored, you don't need to think to play sword.
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>>162773007
>>162773007
>>162773007
New thread
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>>162770584
tfw play leonidas instead

feels better
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>>162772749
Just stop, anon. You are only humiliating yourself further. What do you have to gain by lying on the internet?
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