Dota 2 General Thread - /d2g/

>LET THE BODY HIT THE RAX
LET THE BODY HIT THE RAX
>LET THE BODY HIT THE RAX
LET THE BODY HIT THE RAX
>LET THE BODY HIT THE RAX
LET THE BODY HIT THE RAX

I HOPE YOU ENJOY MEMEPUSH GUYS
Don't call it a grave, it is the future that you choose.

Nice cringey OP.

>>162722774
I don't get why you faggots think its league when its very aggressive, a lot of deaths and more complex

We wuz kangs does 1600 dps

>>162722973
>cry for 5 years that lol is dota 2 rip off
>cry for 5 years that lol is dota -easy mode
>your game is literally 50% lol 30% hots and 20% dota now

nice damage control dotard

>>162722974
because its reddit tier circlejerk, only difference that its contrarian
they will never do shit like removing denies

>>162722774
Oh shit! I'm sorry...

about try this patch in ~1,5 hours
hope they fixed the fps issues, i had 25 fps pre patch

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I was a LoLbab before and safely say this patch is nothing like that shit game.

>>162722990
His damage needs scaling down, Q is retarded and add mana cost to his tree jump thanks.

>>162723027
We want the league audience even if it kills us.

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>162722974
you're right, seems more like hots desu

Take your political correctness, put it on an oversized lemon juicer and sit down as hard as you can and turn yourself from side to side. I'll play the worlds smallest violin for the plight of the third world countries and their inequal opportunity in life. Maybe the next time I pub on europe west servers at night time I'll have a troupe of lesbian feminists and black panthers recite in spoken word how Cykil Pokhil doesn't have the privilege to grow up in a wealthy family and go to college and the best job he can get is assembling dildos at the local dildo factory for ten monopoly rubles an hour (that will inflate 10000% this year and be buy less food than the paper they're printed on), and how this is supposed to excuse the fact his sorry muted 2000 mmr scrub ass is put into my games to weight me down thanks to forced 50% matchmaking and a wanton disregard for server and language options (remember ruskies, clicking all options = finding games faster!)

>>162723032
They should make denies matter after the early game

>>162722990
Less damage than Ursa.

>>162723027
The only stolen ideas were from HotS, and Valve basically cucked Blizzard by taking the entirety of its gameplay depth and tacking it on to Dota.

>>162723115
>game now has 100% jungler
>game now is 24/7 teamfights
>game now scales way faster and games end 20-30 min

yeah sure

Is forced 50 still lame meme
I want to bring it back

Is there any chance of Monkey King getting added to captain's mode quickly? He's much simpler than all the other recent heroes.

>>162723115
>Blizzard invented talent trees

>>162723046
also power down his fucking ultimate, either reduce the radius or the amount of shitty spirits whacking everything or make them behave like illusions and not basically turn it into a 13 second sleight of fist

>Bulldog stream just made me realize lone druid's bear is an excellent MoM carrier

Holy fugg :DDDD

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>>162723115
But how will valve cuck riot without implementing farming? THERE'S NO FARMING ANYMORE FUCKING SHIT. I MISS FARMING.

>>162723170
>>game now has 100% jungler
You ahve 100% misunderstood the rework and are playing the game wrong

what would I expect from idiots of 2g

EAT SHIT VALVE

EAT FUCKING SHIT

I HAD TWO JUNGLERS IN MY GAME TODAY WHO NEVER LEFT THEIR SHITTY JUNGLE FOR 20 MINUTES WHILE THE ENEMY TEAM BARELLED DOWN MID

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GIVE 2 FUCKING JUNGLES WITH 2 WHOLE FUCKING BOUNTY RUNES

FUCK YOU

THIS IS AT 4K I THOUGHT AT LEAST PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A SEMBLANCE OF KNOWING HOW TO PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME

FUCK YOU

>>162723220
*cocks shotgun*

Get out of my general kid

>>162723189
We don't care about our mmr anymore.

>>162723216
That's just because nobody has memorized the new jungle.

>>162723279
They didn't give 2 jungles to farm. It's a complete rework where you don't afk in jungle.

If you afk jungle you are 2k and play in retard bracket

>>162723279
But jungle was nerfed to shit. Camps never respawn

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I REALLY LIKE LUX

I was just browsing thru the community market and I realized I couldn't find any map items. (like the ones that change your map tileset, like the TI one etc.)

Are those only temporary during events?
Cus I had the TI one during the ti, but it's not an item I own and I can't find anything similar on the market

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>could have had an exciting patch where heroes are changed at their core in exciting ways and made viable and the meta changes in the patch
>instead we get bullshit talents that lazily buffs a hero precisely at the precise level they need it instead
>corny talents like 3 arrows instead of 1 all over the place
>a bunch of fucking runes and hills and healing fountains everywhere, the jungle is a mess, the rune spawns are a mess, the rosh pit looks like shit
>a bunch of shit made inconsistent and changed "just for the hell of it cuz why not lol" like dispelling windrun or rocket barrage, wtf? bounty rune only gives 2 charges, like WHY NOT LOLZ
>shit that actually fucking matters like region locking is totally ignored
>XP, XPM, GPM, evasion, health regen flying everywhere no one knows what the fuck is going on
>thinking of what could have been... with monkey king and the new remodels and the new all pick and all the good parts of the patch

i have no fucking will to play this game right now. and dont you even bring up the UI or performance, thats nothing and will be fixed quickly. it could have been so great bros. WHY, WHYYYYYYYYY

do you guys have sometimes a sudden urge to hug the janny

>>162722687
At least, they didn't try to make Awesomenouts a e-sport.
I remember one championship, only one, on Twitch. The game is fun, but not made for huge audiences.
I don't know what they should do to have more players. F2P isn't an answer.

>>162723386
LoL is amazing, no matter how dumbened down, repetitive and overall autistic you make a hero you'll always see people who'll play 200 games in a row on that shit and claim they love the shitty character

>>162723417
On the plus side, the clusterfuck of changes will keep the meta interesting for a little while until everyone finds out that Omniknight is broken.

What heroes should I play as a beginner? Im tired of how shitty lol has gotten so im switching

>>162723417
Region locking is for retards

>>162723510
you switched at the wrong time. dota is in its worst spot ever right now. just play the tutorial and play whatever heroes you think look cool. it literally doesnt matter, everyting is a mess right now and no one knows whats going on.

So were the rumors about mmr reset/new system fake?

>>162723469
I'm sorry your champions are unrelatable and forgettable but there's absolutely no need to be salty

Stay positive!

>>162723510
Play the ingame tutorial, they introduce some relatively simple heroes

There's also the website that'll give you dota 2 heroes according on which LoL champions you like in the OP

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>Dota crashes in the middle of a game with not even an error
Heh thanks overpraised cold frog

>>162723510
Invoker meepo and techies

>You need to choose between a talent or a skill point
Fuck me that's retarded

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Is Ppd making it into the big boys club?

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>The game I knew and loved for all these years is being raped right before my eyes
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>>162723571
>make seasons
>shitstains pay boosters to play their 10 calibration games and end up 5k
>go back to 3k in the month
>repeat new season

yeah no

>>162723567
Whats wrong with the game right now?

>>162723723
How is that different from now

>map made symmetrical
>farm rates homogenized, everyone has the same levels and gold
>talents make snowballing easy as fuck but oh wait one death and you have a 70 second respawn time at 20 minutes so this game is more swingy than ever
>pushing towers from minute 1 in your lane is better than farming safely

>horrid UI
>bugs everywhere
>monkey king lol

what the fuck, dotards?
this is your fault isnt it?

>>162722974
>>162723032
>>162723060
The game is snowball fest right now because no one knows how the fucking map works or about any of the new gameplay elements.

I'm in retard MMR and believe it or not, this is is already how shitters play (my winrate is smurf tier at this point and my unranked MMR is higher). The difference is that non-shitters have yet to adapt and learn because all of the content is fresh; the subhumans I play with simply refuse to because they think all video games are CoD. Though in unranked pubs, it's usually one or two people carrying everyone else by knowing more about the patch, while in my ranked pubs it's one or two people who feed so heavily that the entire enemy team has an unbeatable level and gold advantage. And yes, these people do it over and over again, going 3/25/1 every time and seeing nothing wrong with it.

This is actually what scares me about this patch, because I really, really don't want Dota to pander to bads. I know I am objectively horrible at the game, but I am a lot better than I was before and love how the skill ceiling for the entire game is practically infinite. It's just a fundamental part of the game. The fucking wastes of space with a versatility score of 0.08 and literal inability to learn do not deserve to even have fun in this game. They WANT to be shit at the game.

>>162723806
>Retard MMR whining.
As always.

>>162723760
desu at least you can detect a smurf now

>no avatar
>lvl 20-30
>in your 5k average game

you can just dodge

>>162723510
We have no idea which heroes are best anymore - everything has been changed. Once you're in mid/high-tier matches then counter-picking your opponents hero picks becomes more important so don't worry too much about 'maining' one. For example, you might be the best Drow player around, but if you're going to be laning against Broodmother, you'll have a way easier game picking Legion Commander instead.

>>162723637
I know you're trolling, but techies is way more beginner-friendly now that they aren't hard-countered by gem.

>>162723510
invoker meepo and techies

dotas like quake now but without the skill

>>162723850
>Brood can be countered in lane

Pretty good meme

>>162723872
>dotas like quake
:thinking:

The only way to expand the players is to steal the audience's of the other games

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They're back, and there's nothing you can do about it. Until reddit whines about it.

>>162723838
>reading is hard

>>162723901
Sven.

>>162722774
>Dota 2 General Thread
>Thread

most redundant shit ever, god i fucking hate reddit

>>162723943
Can you put the meepo aghs into you backpack?

>>162723995
Nope, if you can't remove it from your inventory you can't put it in the backpack.

>>162723995
That would actually be a gamechanger if he could dump the +10 all for something bigger lategame.

>>162723917
or you could region lock US servers so people dont quit the minute they try the game and have a bunch of savages from third world internet cafes JAJAJAing in every game

>>162723901
I play Brood all the time and haven't lost against one in ages, because I know the common matchups extremely well.

LC is my favourite Brood counter (Tide, Sand King, BB all do well enough in lane against Brood too but LC can shut down Brood at all stages of the game). All you need to do is save your skillpoints and wait to see if Brood tries to skill SS and then if she does you take OO and ruin her day. If she doesn't skill SS then you just skill up PtA and MoC instead and lane normally against a gimped Brood.

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is he still watching over us

>>162723906

actually its more like banjo kazooie

you just collect shit on the map

How does the damage reduction on visage burds work?

>>162724180
its such a trash talent
it just means +6 creeps for your opponents to farm every 30s

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>tfw third world

lmao that bulldog game
its gonna be gud

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>>162723510

Play supports heroes which can help the team, even if you don't know what are you doing.

- Crystal Maiden
Give FREE mana regen. This skill is global.
- Lich
Give FREE armor to your team
- Dazzle
Give FREE armor and can save one team mate per time from death.
Every hero with helth regen too, like Phoenix, Witch Doctor et cetera.

How do I make the round buff icons into squares again?
How do I enable a permanent stats panel (str,agi,int,damage,speed etc.)?

>>162724086
Dota doesn't need the American audience.

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>>162724159
greast post, uipvoted

>>162724253
Reminder that magnus gives free cleave to the team.

>>162724281
>dota doesnt need the only people who spend money
>it only needs the people who pay unrelated internet cafes 50 cents to play the free game on valves servers with pre-made and traded around accounts
yea keep telling yourself that libtard. this is a failing business model in the long run and its getting worse.

>>162724342
hes also not a support

I'm glad such lines as "x pwned x" got removed. They were immature and had no place in the game.
Now its a lot more informative and clean.

Did you even enjoy the game in the days leading up to 7.00? It seems pretty clear that most of the people who are leaving Dota because of 7.00 have long since gotten sick of the game, they just needed a good enough excuse to leave. Hell if we actually took the time to adapt to the changes, you'd see that this week is basically free MMR.

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post em

>>162724186
Cloak now has a non-aura AoE that grants Visage's current damage reduction to the birds. If Visage loses a stack, the birds get weaker and vice versa. If they leave the AoE, it's instantly gone.

>>162724373
The rest of the world doesn't hate region lock. I am glad I can play on whatever server I want. I never play alone so I can always communicate with my teammates.

>>162724426
I never uninstalled but it's been 2 months since I played a game.

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>>162724405
Yeah I was having great games all the way to right before patch and pretty much every game afterwards has been full "Just fuck my shit up" -tier. I'm trying really hard to like this patch

>>162724405
People are just picking overpowered heroes and dumsptering others

>>162724342
Magnus must have a Blink Dagger.
You must get a Blink Dagger as fast as you can.

A new player will die a lot, and every time you die, you lose gold.

>>162724405
i was bored months before patch, and thats because people actually started to copy pro meta even at high 3k- low 4k retard bracket

Tell me the most overpowered heroes that I can easily win with and their builds. I want free mmr.

>>162723510
You switched at a good time. No one knows what they're doing and the veteran stompers who've been playing for years have finally left because of the update. Pick someone you like, though I highly suggest fiddling around with a support such as Lich or Dazzle until you understand the mechanics.

Is offlane the new safelane?

>>162724456
I'm gonna need more.

>>162723806
>I'm in retard MMR and believe it or not
stopped reading there

why do tards think their opinion matters in the fucking goolag

This UI is SO SHAIIIIIIIIITE

wat happen to Puppey now?

>lycan is a thing again
gotta love designs that are there to only frustrate you ie techies, broodcuck, LYCAN

>>162724607
I'm 1k solo mmr and just beat a guy with 4.7k mmr in unranked. Mmr means nothing. He was a legion with 200 duel damage and I stunned him and blew him up as AM.

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>Enemy literally and unironically jungling a Bloodseeker after I picked Rooftrellen the Treant Protector

This is honestly the greatest rework of all time. Invis ninja tree bashing from the shadows every 4 seconds is so much fun.

>>162722774
i have 70 dollars on steam from dota
should i buy monkey king arcana or mafia 3?

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Is farming dead? What sort of gameplay will bring this patch, just more full-on brawling?
Do talents really change the game that much, they seem like ultra-lategame upgrades more than anything which is nice since lategame is the high-point of Dota.

>>162724708
>mafia 3
anything but that

>>162724607
Because everyone here is shit at the game.

>>162724635
What's the red triangle and the blue stone everyone buys?

>patch is only meme fighting

pssshh, fresh meat.... kid....

>>162724635
>deleted
ok

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>>162724635
>last hits are literally irrelevant

May as well play LoL, at least LoL is balanced

>>162723790
>map made symmetrical
Wut?
You can't double pull dire safe lane like you can in radiant

>>162724716
Farming is dead because they crippled the jungle. Memefighting is encouraged that's what the pros will enjoy too.
We won't see many playing styles other than constant brawling.

so whats the point in playing now? they broke every feature, made everything worse, removed level up hotkeys

>>162724234
el venezolANO

>>162724405
fuck off faggot. i obsessively played dota for years every single day and i cant even play one game of this shit patch right now. ive never complained about any patch before, this one is just unlivable. and it has nothing to do with the fucking UI either.

>>162724878
Slacks never uses hotkeys and is 5k. Be aware of that you tryhard faggot.

desu maybe we should all play heroes of the storm
kael'thas was the original invoker after all

I have over 400 games with riki and this patch has ruined him. The aghs upgrade is fucking garbage as well because its 4000 gold wasted on zero agility upgrade which means your ult does no damage per hit. The diffusal changes are fucking awful as well.

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>>162724763
People don't seem to understand you still see the deleted posts and it just makes you look worse

just had an epiphany

lmao @ people who decided to be pros. you literally have to relearn the WHOLE game now.

hahahahahaha and then in 3 months its the same story, valve broke every aspect of the game and none of the variables you spent years learning mean shit any more

would love to watch people squirm while a lv 25 veno with turbo wards and enhanced cast range completely destroys your base from 1500 units away

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>4 runes every two minutes

What are these fucking graphic settings bulldog is using?

>>162724857
How did they cripple the jungle? By making the map so terrible?

>>162724970
6 runes.

>>162724970
>>162724995
There's 5 runes you fucking retards.

>>162724737
Unlimited free ward(blue is long range but fragile, yellow has multiplr charges)
red is the Unlimited Free Dewards trinket since they removed Gem and don't have Dust so the only way to deward is with that item and a sentry ward(limited to 1 in inventory and 1 on field)

>>162724857
>Memefighting
Not anymore, we are back to >>162722971 where the games is diceded at lanes.
I hope Juiceshitter are happy now that they can go back to
>Pick snowbally mid
>Mute everybody
>Solo farm
>Suicide to rax
and don't punished by it

>>162724995
Camps respawn on odd minutes. Which means you can farm the entire jungle and then sit and wait for the camps to respawn for a whole minute as AM

Haven't played since the patch, are they seriously encouraging a dedicated jungler now?

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More tweaks to the in game hud with the latest patch. New vs Old attached.

HOW DO I FUCKING LANE AGAINST QW INVOKER HE HAS BUILT IN TRANQUILS AND INFINITE MANA AND HE TRIES TO KILL ME EVERY TIME I COME TO LAST HIT REEEEEEE
>>162724970
it's five actually

>>162725027
No, its 6 runes you faggot.

>>162723749
Nothing, he's just upset at how much the patch changed. People will get over it in a couple weeks or just leave.
Dota 2 changed a lot but its still better than league.

>>162724936
Slacks is 5k because he's famous, so people will listen to him, giving him an inherent advantage in solo queue because of the increase in communication and teamwork. Literally his one job in every match is to convince people to not be arrogant retards.

This puts him in a sort of inverse trench, because this only works if everyone speaks English and Peruvians aren't even good enough for 4k.

>>162725126
6 runespots. 5 runes.

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>>162725030
Free?

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>>162725027
>>162724995
>>162725074

Sorry bros I meant to write

>4 bounty runes every two minutes

>>162725053
No they encourage either laning or roaming by taking bounty runes. Jungling is shit because the camps won't respawn fast enough.

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>>162724495
im so glad its all over, at least i won't be tempted to reinstall because i know this game is done

inb4 "see you next week" "git gud" "get with the times gramps" "learn patch n00b" etc

also ppl assuming that the people who drop on this patch are moving to LoL or HoN or anything of the like are fucking retarded

theres more to video games than dota
enjoy what's left of your "esport"

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>>162725137
>Dota 2 changed a lot but its still better than league.

This is just the beginning. You know that slippery slope people like to dismiss? Dota is now barreling down the mountain side. Last year Beast event had the first ever genuine P2W features in Dota and they'll probably do it more so this year since we've been casualized so much.

>you will never play closed beta ever again and just play actual video games instead of some spreadsheet collectathon autism fest

>>162725194 this replay was meant for vvvv
>>162724426

Is KANG op or not?

>>162725194
>getting so salty over a patch you completely throw out the game and disown it as if you never had anything to do with it

once an autist, always an autist.


you'll. be. back.

>>162725192
>Jungling is shit because the camps won't respawn fast enough.
Stack them, you fool.

Is Troll Warlord the ultimate racecar hero?

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Is Icefrog dead?
How can we be sure he's still in charge of patchnotes and it's just not Valve?

Nobody is talking about how chen can dominate the new lifesteal ancients and provide free 10% lifesteal for the team while the smaller ones root and break and reduce armour. EPIC chen buffs.

>>162725337
China's twitter

>get pushed completely out of lane as weaver against a bristle
>literally 3 cs at ten minutes
>still melt enemy heroes at 40 minutes and have fuckloads of farm
Is laning, dare I say it, dead?

>>162725280
His tree-jumping is pretty OP. I want to see the cooldown raised on that move by at least a second or two.

Also his abilities all scale pretty amazingly into late game.

>>162725329
>can only stack them every odd minute
Takes too long. Jungling is so shit now that I regularly go to the enemy side of the map and kill all their big creeps leaving one useless small one in each camp so they have to wait 2 minutes to get farm.

>>162725375
>Chen buffs
>Talking about shitty creeps and not TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT spell amp at level 15.
Literally a level 25 talent at level 15.

>>162725413
JUST PICK GPM TALENT LOL

>>162725296
Hes right though the patch pushed the game in a terrible direction way too quickly.

Shitters see the talents and think they have added complexity without realizing the myriad of smaller changes that have homogenized gameplay and turned dota 2 into a hero brawler with no semblance of balance.

Every game of dota 2 felt different, you had to work for your kills which made them satisfying.

Now every game is a shitty memeback meat grinder deathball.

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oi let us borrow your ulty Chen

>>162725504
Some talents are so good that you'd never get the opposing one. They need to fix this.

>>162725375
Same thing with Visage, no one cares because most players are too dumb for micro and only want to play cores.

>>162725413
If you're playing weaver offlane then all you really need are your levels. and to land a few kills in the midgame - then you can snowball from that.

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>>162725296
projecting so hard you are reaching astral levels fampai

your putting words in my mouth on top of projecting, i never once said this game was trash it was amazing for a while. if your too autistic to understand this then thats on you

>>162725573
what are you on about. EU pros are complaining that there's new Visage players n every game feeding birds

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Has anyone tried the no bear lone druid yet?
and will it work?

>>162725239
>This is just the beginning.

This. It started with the rubberband garbage and the flood of new items. Now we got this "patch" which is basically an overhaul that throws out years of balancing and who the fuck knows what stupid shit will come next. At this point they're only a small couple of steps away from possibly introducing some sort of skill/level system that transfers between games (i.e permanent buffs that you can buy/grind). Something that likely would be left out of competetive games but be fully implemented in unranked and ranked games. THE thing dota is lacking (for mainstream appeal) is overarching progression that can take with you between games, and i can fucking guarantee you valve is entirely aware of this.

My impressions so far:
>jungling down
>roaming up
>pushing down
>warding down
>courier-stealing up
>faggotry over runes up
>enemies roaming in jungle up
>team cohesion down

Was this their plan?

>Highest pickrate increase is timbersaw
Lmao. People are so butthurt about having monkey king taken from them in pick phase.

I think Deso is a meme item on KANG
sure, deals a shitload of dmg (which he does anyway), but you're way too squishy and have no way to stay on your target when you rush it after echo.
I think echo into sny is the way to go

>>162725714
crashing this game

>>162725663
Dunning-Krueger syndrome, eventually they will get bored and go back to picking PA or Pudge in every match. Same thing with Meepo, everyone knows how strong he is but most players don't want to take the extra time to git gud at him, even in a flawed way that would let them get by in their MMR bracket. Some simply lack the self-awareness to know their limits.

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>Howl provides 50/100/150/200 Max HP increase to heroes, 25/50/75/100 to non-heroes
>Howl has double the effect (damage/hp) at night time

LITERALLY FREE 400 HP

LMAO HOW IS THIS BALANCED YOU FUCKING FRAUD

4 0 0
0
0

So who else is genuinely liking the patch and the total loss of knowledge? I'm enjoying this a whole lot, figuring everything out is a sensation I haven't felt while playing Dota for years

>>162725696
>waah waah waah I cant handle all these changes, I HAVE TO OVERREACT NOW
get a fucking grip, shit like that p2w year beast event will never happen again

>have massive anxiety
>get pills to fix this
>about to grind to 8k mmr
>patch hits

lmao, im actually cursed

>>162725834
isnt it global too

>>162725761
You don't have to catch up to people because you should be taking towers after getting deso.

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>You will never help Ilexa become a real hero
Why
Even
Live

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>Octarine Ember
>4,8 second cooldown on 5 second duration chains

>>162725676
>will it work?
It's not really any more or less legit than ever, but I've won a few pubs with it before. Something like lance/SNY/basher/skadi and run people down with your insane MS from early rabid. You need to avoid getting caught out by stuns though and won't have a way of stopping TPs for a while.

>>162724086
This. I quit dota because i couldnt stand the third world monkeys

Can heroes still jungle? Where do you lane Enigma now?

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>>162725856
that is right

FREE HEAL

should i come back? i haven't played in over a year

>>162725834
There's a reason why he's disabled in captain's mode now.

>>162725873
why would I play him as a splitpusher? all his abilities favor fighting/ganking.

>>162725852
>use dota to avoid depression for years
>patch hits
>its so bad its unplayable

i'll try to convince myself that its playable or else im fucked

>>162725696
>At this point they're only a small couple of steps away from possibly introducing some sort of skill/level system that transfers between games (i.e permanent buffs that you can buy/grind). Something that likely would be left out of competetive games but be fully implemented in unranked and ranked games. THE thing dota is lacking (for mainstream appeal) is overarching progression that can take with you between games, and i can fucking guarantee you valve is entirely aware of this.
That one change would single-handedly ruin dota.

>>162725834
he has top 5 winrate in pubs right now or something
shit is broken yo
>>162725856
uhh, but it is?

>>162725923
offlane enigma was always viable the same way you run offlane NP. may not be afk fastest jungler in the game anymore but he has a decent laning pressence

who /not comfy at all it's so fucking cold send help I'm freezing/ here

>>162725626
The game WAS amazing. Valve can MAKE good games. They can't maintain them worth a shit.

TF2 was fun before it went F2P. It really was. Then Valve gutted it at every chance to make a profit. Made everything about cosmetics and not about gameplay. Then suddenly whole game modes got added, and guess what, YOU HAD TO PAY TICKETS TO PLAY IT??

How long till Dota has its own "buy 5 tickets you can play 5 games of Dota Horde with a chance to get a DOUBLE exalted Arcana" shit?? Valve only sees dollar signs and anyone who's not a literal cuckold sees that this update was made to make Dota appeal to LoL players to get their business.

There used to be an image comparing Demopan to the future of Dota 2. No one posts it anymore because it hurts to much to realize it's 100% true.

>>162725985
Not a splitpusher, a normal pusher. You drop ult around a tower and it becomes very hard to defend.

Xth for cucks , lolcucks...

>>162725842
Basically theres two way to look at this patch:
1: icefrog ruined the dota universe, nothing will be the same
2: icefrog made a new game so let's relearn stuff
It's on you how you see the game but it's highly unlikely they'll revert any change

>>162725990

i literally wanted to play because the pills make me emotionless and immune to this feeling, now i just have emptyness. this is just another case of devs ruining their own game. same shit happened in ARK where you had devs put in giant flying birds with platforms, so everyone just built giant turret birds that would just murder everything on sight

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>when you already knew dota was dead at 6.79

>tfw teammate picked KANG before I could
What do I pick now? The other heroes are boring.

>>162726132
ruin his day and pick Zeus
his new Aghs is super good too

>>162726132
Clockwerk

Enjoy your dead enemies every time you hook somebody.

best lycan/dog hat?

>>162726047
thats true, its sad to think about how they rekt tf2 and whats happening to dota right now. they always seem to go in the direction of hats and clutter and more and more tacked on shit. instead of just making the core game better.

>>162726083
Ignore this, wrong thread.

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How do you build MK? Is his Ult as good as it looks, do I go for something like Skadii + Mjollnir for soldiers or around his passive with something like MoM for more stacks?

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What supports are good then

>>162726208
>+75 ATK
Is this fucking yugioh or something?

If you think you can, or should, AFK jungle in the CURRENT PATCH you are either a retard or did not read the patch notes.

>>162726208
>60 seconds resurrection time
>Literally enough to have his aghs ult ready if he died shortly after using it

>We are on page 2, 2 days after the patch
I predicted this. Well be at page 5 by Sunday. This game is dead and nothing could save it. Not even 7.00

>>162725472
>clearing neutral creep camps is such shit that I do it anyway

Jungling was never "too" effective, but it did indirectly encourage everyone in pubs to play pos1 carries all the time because no matter how far behind you are, your abilities still scale with farm, which you can still get even while one rax away from enemy megas. In random pubs, early game strats were seen by most players as unthinkable even though there was and is nothing wrong with them, and in lower brackets could arguably considered superior. This effectively encouraged players to be arrogant shits that always play the same hero every match and refuse to learn how to be better.

I don't like the solution either--Meme Talon should be permanently removed instead, for starters--but it is addressing a real problem.

the fraud's gonna nerf gold gain HARDCORE

as it is you basically get free money just for looking in the jungle's direction

>>162726206
phase urn vlads echo saber skadi bkb

Echo Saber is core, other items are up for debate.

Urn is good because you should be doing a lot of tower-diving for ganks early on and snowballing off of that.

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>>162726272
It's from when the patch notes were only available in Chinese

>>162726382
Ikr!!!! XD

>>162726206
shadow amulet and rapier

>>162726440
Smol

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>>162726440
>Rugged appearance of vertigo duration

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>want to play some Dota 2
>remember its now League of Strom

ITS NOT FAIR

>>162726520
after one month u will ok

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I can't find the legacy option it says this has anyone know where it is?

/d2g/ is fucking dead.

Post that HUD
you know which one

>>162726421
>vlads
wot

>>162726520
>want to play some dota2.
>actually play it first time in 2 months because the game is fun again.

No one will be complaining about the patch in 2 weeks time. The autistic screeching will stop soon, then you faggots can go back to posting pis of TA with a dick.

>>162726578
It took me 30 min so fuck you and suffer like me

>>162726206
phase echo is core
after that stuff like deso, sny, vanguard, basher is good
abyssal late game is a must have i think
throw in a bkb if needed
mjölnir is not really good for his ult because the atkspeed of the monkeys doesnt change

max your passive first, its the most broken shit ever. I personally go 1-4-4 at lvl9 and take ult at 11 and 12

>>162726520
THIS!! HaHA XD

MK ult needs a fucking nerf jesusf ccthrist

>>162726628
So, LS?

>>162726603
>want to play some dota 2
>queue for a match because most of the gameplay changes are great and people are only playing like cunts to take advantage of unfamiliarity
>HUD is a gross Appletard mockup by some pretentious hipster faggot that causes motion sickness because all of the polintless animation effects and the poor layout of information
>lose ten times in a row because the new hero can solo kill you at level 1

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>wake up
>performance is still shit

>>162726627
found it lmao

>>162726696
a very similar build to lifestealer, yes (i assume thats what you mean with LS)
you dont want to go armlet on him though, I think. havent tried it yet, probably wont.

is farming not important anymore?, I dont like to farm

>>162726747
my fps got better runs alot better on 4k now.

Wraith King is the most cancer imba OP hero in Dota right now, bar none

is jakiro broken????????????????????

>>162726747
performance is the least of our fucking worries. stop talking about it, theyll fix that without a doubt. complain about the real shit faggot.

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Can someone explain this "minimalistic design" meme to me? Why did it infect dota?
>dude just press ALT lmao.

>>162726803
How? I always lose when I pick him.

>>162726724
>thinking mk is broken

jesus laning at bottom lane is horrible now, all these trees trigger the shit out of me
i thought top lane will have trees shat over it too but apparently its fine so why change bot so much?

>>162726683
NO IT DOESN'T. HIS ULT IS SHIEET

>>162726841
Get to level 25 and buy an Octarine. You will never die, ever. Not him tho, just think mana cost is necessary to balance his ult.

>>162726854
How is his passive not fucking bullshit?

>>162726840
nu-males hate stats.

>>162726840
it's been a trend for a long, long time
look at billboards/shop signs anywhere for example
10-15 years back, shit was colorful as fuck and loaded with mutiple pictures/stuff going on
now its just one-color-surfaces with contrasting single words written on them

>>162726840
Graphic designers are the biggest bunch of pretentious faggots you will ever meet. They want to jerk off to how "sleek" their little toy creations are because they do not care about usefulness.

>>162726938
No. Wk doesn't do as much damage as other heroes like LS and sven and at the same time he doesn't do anything most of the time due to the mana burn. That's no longer the case now. This was the buff he needed.

>>162726840
the UI is the least of our fucking problems faggot and its fine, because its scalable and based on dynamic design meaning it can change easily at any time. they designed it specifically for that purpose. lets complain about the fucking runes, and the talents, the hideous map and shrines and all the other garbage first you god damn niggers.

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Rate my Lina build

have they fixed the ui yet?

>>162727078
Spicy.

>>162727078
No fucking blink out of 10

>>162727078
>no atos
>greaves
could be worse

>>162725334
nah thats lycan

Shrines are too irrelevant. They need buffs

>>162727078
implying any build matters right now lol

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>>162727040
>This was the buff he needed.

He's only ever needed one buff to be viable.

>>162725397
how does tweet confirm someones identity? Icefrog does not exist


prove
me
wrong

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>all the enemy cores think they are hot shit because they can farm fast now.

>little do they know Winter's Curse doubly benefits from a world of fast farm (more damage on enemy + faster time to get crest and refresher)

>>162727059
>lets complain about the fucking runes

rune should only spawn diagonal and only 2 at a time.

>>162727078
What are linas talents?

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>>162725882
I want to Last Hit Ilexa

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>>162727264

300 free gpm or fast puck orb?

>>162726520
stop overreacting you massive faggot

>>162726840
It takes up less room, and it still works just as well, not to mention it looks nicer. If you cannot handle spending a day with the new HUD to get used to it I have no words for you. Perhaps League would behoove you better.
The old clunky one hud with useless garbage to me seems WAY too big and it doesn't let me see clearly in-game, to me the new one is way too good.

>>162727393
Left, left, right, right

>>162727405
orb is better
you should have all items you need by level 25 but mobility is always relevant

>>162725849
You paid to win hats in the beast event.

Who the fuck cares about that. The imba map and exclusive queue from the ti6 battle pass were way more p2w features

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>play against syndereN and H4nn1 as Anti-Mage
>Die multiple times because my team is trash
>H4nn1 says in voice "this antimage is so fucking bad"
>Still win the game with godlike streak
ayyy

>>162727503
hanni always was a whiny cunt no surprise here

>>162727059
yeah the new runes are bad, I really miss how lanes were determined based on who happens to spam click the first bounty rune faster :^)

>>162727503
Godspeed anun Hanni is a tinker player and an insecure little bitch

>>162727503
Why do people pick antimage so much?
Why can't he be ignored like visage?

>>162727503
>against him
>hear his voice
Kill yourself.

>>162727503
I'd pour some monster over his head if I were you

>try and use shop to buy my item parts fuckign quickly or load up shift quickbuy
>have to change tabs

>try and use shop tio quickly buy consumables and tp scrolls
>no "miniguide" option open

>new miniguide hides the item selection pool

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

So

HotD is shit
and MoM is good?

>>162727078
Too much nuke, not enough right-click.
People never give Fiery Soul enough credit.

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>>162727575
i watched the vod, i cant even watch streams while playing dota or else i get 10fps

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When do we get those League bushes so I can be more sneaky?

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>https://twitter.com/wykrhm/status/808722839251480576
Why is he so right
and i think his profile picture is cool
gulag whiny cunts btfo once again no surprise here

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Rate my monkey king build

>Sing playing Carry Lich
Literally our guy

Reminder that if you had bad feelings about the patch before you had even played a single game, and you weren't even a little bit excited about trying out new shit, you have autism (the real kind).

>>162727552
what? are you 2k? everyone went with their team to give mid the rune. only if the enemy team makes a big play would it change, and thats good.

now everyone is safe in the jungle spam clicking the bounty rune anyway you dumb faggot. and the enemy team can still make a big play to steal it from you. you literally make no sense :^) reddit fag

>>162727654
Basically you get hotd if you want the active and mom if you need the lifesteal.
On the other hand hotd lets everyone have 10 lifesteal wih that new shaman creep

>>162727654
hotd is support item, basically it's quarter of chen
mom is now decent on heroes who do not rely much on spells in fight, like sven, spectre, troll, sniper

>>162727705
This guy is based. Where is he from?
He's the only valve employee that listens to the community desu.

>We're going feeding
-Underlord 2016

reminder that even early changes like your courier losing invuln and dropping items on death was a smart design decision.

reminder that from 6.73 onwards, people were ferrying around 9 items on super fat carries, whilst NEVER getting punished for breaking the game with cheesey bullshit with illusions

and today, this is accepted practice. every carry player and his dog will have a spare midas, refresher and hex on standby

ATTACKER IS STREAMING FOR COMPLEXITY WHAT THE FUGGGG?
SWINDLE JEW GOT TO HIM?

>>162727747
thanks for saying the same thing as me, faggot
skirmishes at bounty runes determined the lanes, and often the game, if a team got both bounties their winrate jumped to 70% by default

the new system is better, at least the enemy has to take a risk if he wants to gimp your early game
>I'll just call him low MMR and reddit xD

>>162727835
>item cooldowns are doubled when you place them in backpack
You will never place a refresher and midas in there

>>162727926
>doesnt like level 1 skirmishes if the enemy team has a good plan to do it
literal anti-fun reddit fag

and do we need FIVE bounty runes every 2 minutes, all 4 of them being mostly safe? no we dont.

Best combo this patch?
Vacuum wall into entire enemy team crashing out of the game.
Great patch

What the fuck do I do with new Techies? Can you even offlane this shit anymore?

>>162727835
>lolbaby complaining about courier being useful thing in dota
how about you get back to your cuckshed and check how is your wifes son doing

>>162728048
roam you faggot
525 magic damage level 2 lmao

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Can anyone replace the sandwich with the old UI

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>go to get radiant bottom bounty rune
>I get smoke ganked
LEAVE MY JUNGLE THAT'S MY BOUNTY

>>162725996
its; ruined now

>>162728229
>people already copying my tactic

really makes you think

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So like real talk what the fuck was 2016 even?

>>162725676
>>162725912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqxraW4SXxY

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it seems to me the gulag doesn't like my master piece, how come?

>>162728296
who is this cum plum?

>>162728296
the last year of dota's life

have the fps issues been fixed yet?

Reminder that you are utter moron if you don't go MIDAS GAMING this patch-

>tfw feverish and can't play dota2

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Of all the things to bitch about, this is honestly not one of them. It's a nice stylised map that's exclusively for the pre-game stuff.
Everybody just wants a reason to complain holy fuck.

first to reply decides what hero i play next with what build

>>162728571
carry lich

>>162728571
Wolf
double necro refresher

>>162728597
mm kay

>>162728571
core dusk

I fucking hate how narrow the jungle is.

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Remember this and how people laughed and called it garbage, now look where we are

>>162728628
so just like in real life

>>162728628
wtf i hate dota now

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>>162728432
no im hoping they release something today

>>162727040
He needed a buff, but people never realized how far he would stretch it out. Octarine now synergizes perfectly with his ult, and lets him make far better use of items with cooldowns: Echo Sabre and Basher proc more often, Heart cools down ridiculously soon, BoTs can be used to rat with impunity, Silver Edge has only 4 seconds of guaranteed downtime, BKB's shortest cooldown is just over 40 seconds, etc, etc.

You know what this means, anon.

RUSH RAPIER EVERY FUCKING MATCH.

>>162728543
reddit fags are the queens about having every little faggy"suggestion" or complaint pandered to by valve. so this is what happens. good job valve. literally nothing about the UI or performance is worth complaining about because it always gets fixed. its EVERYTHING ELSE that fucking sucks.

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>>162728571
try to ebin carry abba meme

>>162728637
>also talent trees/backpack are getting removed for balance reasons
god i love 7.01
why is icefrog so based

>>162728637
Nice rosh spot, m8.

>>162728737
fuck off tiago

>>162728738
Why must you hurt me with such desirable illusions?

CARRY WW WHEN
BEST WAIFU

>>162728738
>>also talent trees/backpack are getting removed for balance reasons
>god i love 7.01
>why is icefrog so based

If Icefrog is balancing they will not be removed.

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>Have a really bad game of Dota
>Kills my mood for the game
>Exit out
>5 minutes later
>Extremely bored, want to play something
>Don't feel like playing anything else except Dota
What do I do, lads?

>>162728710
You also realize that lifestealer and sven get free armour/movespeed/magic immunity meanwhile wk has 10 armour at best by level 25 and won't even reincarnate if an agi hero got a diffusal. So what if octarine is core now? Every hero becomes broken at level 25.

>PLAY WITH WK
>HE FUCKING TAKES THE LIFESTEAL SHIT OVER MANALESS ULT AGAINST DIFFUSAL CARRIES.

REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>162728879
play dota

>>162728879
Currently playing NFS Underground.

Just look for something else to play, anon.

>>162728112
thats a false equivalence

the old UI is strictly better than what we have now

>>162728879
Just listen to this, because it's honestly preferable than playing a game that is barely even performing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCBMPdqDAS0

>>162728879
play League its the better Doto right now.

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I'll add beforehand that I'm 5.5k.

I've played 9 games of bearless lone druid and haven't lose a game yet.
That 65 attack damage and 200 range talents are ridiculous. You turn into such a powerhouse with those.
Highly recommend this shit.
Only weakness is that it farms like ass, but you can fight like the best of then.

>>162728879
that wont work anymore because dota is bad now. same shit happened to me but now i cant play dota again.

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>>162728967
what's your itemization?

>>162728910
TO THE WINDOOOOOOOOW

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>tfw keep forgetting to skill my talents at level 10 and 15 over spells
Getting used to this shit is hard.

>>162728967
I hope you're at least getting 1 point in bear, that way you can get bounty runes and use it as a courier

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>>162728948
LoL will never be better than anything.

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>>162728637
And this

>>162729043
What was the name of this manga again? I forgot to follow on batoto