Dota 2 General - /d2g/

Before I waste my MMR, has anyone given Venomancer a try?

So how do I win as Timber? I always do well in lane and get a decent KDA but I always seem to lose, so I feel like maybe i'm not making enough of a mid-game impact?

How do we fix the meme king?

i mean if you can get to 25 you can never lose a game

>>162706332
>>162706376
meant to reply to you

>>162706186
Eh this is still technically true, even with League aspects, Dota 2 is still the more sophisticated and complex game. I'll start whining when they get rid of denying and stacking.

This game is over
PPD saw what was coming and jumped ship just in time

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nth for fuTA

>>162706338
Are you just fucking around 1v5 and doing zero damage to buildings like the average timber player or are you building necronomicon to take rax and win the game while you do that instead?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/136tr1/how_to_get_the_old_hud_back/

we did it reddit

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>Enemy team has MK, LC and 3 other carries
>pick razor
gg ez

>>162706558
Big feminine benis arcana when?

>>162706908
BIG PENISES ARE NOT FEMININE

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>>162706445
They effectively nerfed stacking into the ground

Helm is a garbage waste of a slot now and creep camps only spawn every 2 minutes.

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>>162706908
>>162706948
how big is TA? asking for a friend

does am aghs and linkens stack

>200MB update

WHAT IS THIS?

You fuckers just go outside until everything settles for the new patch.

>but muh practice

Taking a break makes you good to, your brain needs to settle the information to. Dont be a retard.

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WHY DO I HAVE TO GO TO FUCKING REDDIT JUST TO LEARN WHAT THE 250 MB PATCH IS FUCK YOU VALVE

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>Reddit the version

Just kill me now.

I'm all for this UI change for new people but can't dumb old people like me keep the old hub and stuff I mean no one will complain if you can have BOTH options

>"new UI is good, you just complain for no reason"
>valve had to fix it in 1 day
fucking valve cocksuckers

how do i freaging win!?

>6.57 + .43
>my cores aren't even level 15 by 20 minutes
made me think to be frank

>slark scepter gives his entire team his invis ult which can't be seen through via gem or dust or sentries or even fountain vision

what the fuck is icefag thinking?

>>162707326
beins

>>162707412
its pretty bad aghs desu

>>162707412
>Slark building scepter
nice meme

So if Dota 2 is dead does this mean we get to go back to HoN?

I liked HoN, announcer was better and they made fun things.

>Valve releases patch
>in the middle of a tier99 tourney
>which was paused for 30mins already anyway
Peruvians aren't the ones killing the game. It's a combined effort.

>>162707326
kil their throne before they kill yours, easy

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h-hey guys remember me?

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>>162707447

WCA is an trainwreck, jesus

>>162706996
bigger than yours, so she can laugh at how pathetic you are.

They fucking removed the ability to see what cosmetic items other players have are you fucking kidding me that's the dumbest shit to remove

So what other ASSFAGGOTS have you played dotards?
I played 1 game of LeL before I started dota, the pay-to-win system was the reason why I started to play dota instead, 4k hours played by now

why can't they just give the old hub back, new players can have the new one but the old one.. why not keep it like they kept legacy keys????????????????????

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So like, where do I find my own created hero builds? They don't show up as default for me anymore nor do I see them in the list

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>support slark is now a thing
>am has broken scepter
>monkey can kill anyone in 4 hits
>WK ulty stacks
>+6 treants
Has the frog gone too far?

>>162707719
Your own builds anon? That's haram, you'll build what valve tells you to build.

This patch is actually so dogshit

Talents are extremely poorly balanced and all the "fun" ones like triple arrow are at level 25

>be Lotus Orb + Aghs antimage
>They both trigger at the same time
>Dota crashed


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>162707721

Explain the WK ulty thing please.

Who is the main character of Dota?

even watching streamers hurts my eyes now

>>162707940
Crystal Maiden

>>162707940
pudge

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performance patch fucking when

>>162707940
Peter 'ppd' Dager

>moonduck defending peruvians for fixing matches due to them being poor
what the fuck.

>>162707671
Tried league once, it was too bushy for me to handle.

>>162707671
Played a bit of DotA back in the day didn't really care for it, liked HoN a fair bit when that came around, wish I played it more, got SUPER into LoL for a long time because that's where my friends were, once Dota 2 came out I played it with a smaller circle of friends, HotS has pretty much always been a solo thing when I'm in the mood for it, these days Dota 2 and HotS are the only ones I'll play.

>>162708020
do you use vulkan?

>>162708062
can't fool me, not going to give moonduck my view shiller

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>>162707940
It varies from chapter to chapter, but Drow Ranger is generally considered the most central protagonist of the DotA series.

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>>162708121
i have tried -dx11, -gl and -vulkan. the fps stays the same.

>>162707902
No idea but we had to kill him 6 times in a team fight after we killed everyone else, without aegis
Dude from team told me his ulty can stack now

Anyone else's client keep crashing since the most recent update?

What type of buffs do you think arc warden will inevitably get? Icefrog has shat on him too much and he needs something now

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>old ui
>click not me
>everything stays the same and I can easily click my hotkey to go back to my hero info

>new ui
>click not me
>stupid tiny box shows up out of nowhere and I have to parse all the info in the little box
>clicking my hero hotkey doesn't make it go away until I left click the screen somewhere

please tell me there is a way to turn this off it's so fucking annoying I can handle the rest of this shit UI for now but I can't deal with this

>>162708239
esc

>>162708239
Yes, settings -> options -> right side, slightly down and theres the "override hero console" or something.

>>162707940
>any answer beside secret shop guy.

2k16 dotards

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>>162708239
nigga just check the options next time

Monkey King's arcana is shit for its price.

>>162708205
his new ult cd is 40seconds at lvl 3, add to it octameme and it might be the reason why it happened.

>>162708239
options > interface > check Unit query overrides hero control console

now enjoy your hub expanding or minimizing when clicking heroes with less or more spells

they ruined the game by removing turn rates and everybody but me is too shit to notice even though everyone agrees the game just feels off

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>Shopkeeper talks when you go near him

So whats the preffered build on mankey kang

I figure max dindu bang first for the damage. The stun afterwords for fights the then the leap for the extra damage and slow when getting picks.

Then for items, phase deso sny and what ever else is needes like skadi bkn mkb etc

>>162708192
Give it another day anon. It just came out yesterday, it happened the same when reborn came out.

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>dota_select_hero_npc_dota_hero_monkey_king
>fuck you anon I'm gonna go carry and steal your lane
>no worries family I'll go support
>oov wards lace
>jump to enemy lane via trees to see who went on our lane
>initiate with the slow skill when my carry got his stun
>dead
>repeat but now I got jingu and Q
>we dominate lane and snowball
>proceed to go carry
>win
no matter what role you go with WE WUZ you still win the game

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>>162708309
>>162708348
>>162708376
thank you

>nerf his attack range
>rescale his pounce attack range
>give his passive an expiry time

That's all Monkey Dik needs and he'll be fine.

>>162708409
Unless your shit at him. Some dumbasses cant win with literal free mmr the monkey

PUT YOUR LANING IN THE BAG AND NOBODY GETS HURT
-VALVA

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>>162707671
Played dota since guinsoo dota, icefrog was a lord and a saint how he saved the mod.

I really wanted to get HON when it came out, but league pushed for open beta sooner and faggots tried to get me to play guinsoo's new game, I immediately hated it, its art style, its slow as fuck movement and boring ass abilities, so I went back to dota.

Then I played HON up until 3.0 when S2 went full $JEW and copy pasted the league of legends model, going free 2 play, and destroying the pub scene by flooding games with new players who could only play 6 heroes instead of actaully being able to pick and counter pick based on any sense of metagame, so I quit and went back to dota 1, but Dota 1 was taken over by stat tracker bots who made pubbing cancerous, so I played in tourneys for a while.

Then dota 2 came back and saved the pub scene, except every #NEWMETA patch that came out since the Wraith King patch has slowly been ruining any sense of depth dota once had by adding in meme items, forcing a specific metagame by nerfing strategies into the ground until it finally hit the epitome of "We want the HOTS/League of Legends audience" with 7.00, the game plays like its -em, building items is no longer about picking what you need based on your enemies and allies, but rather, on what is meta, and the game is entirely devolved into a League of Legends style Farm for 20 minutes then push to win or lose meta.

All in all, I guess I need to find another game that scratches my itch for games with lots of depth and choices.

>>162708397
Blink is core, the tree hopping+blink allow you to cover insane amount of distance,

How long will Monkey King be meta?
He's great.

>monkey king is literally a walking Q bot after 15 minutes

>Tree dance
>Can still cast Boundless Strike without being knocked off or revealing you

W E W
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>>162708210
Rofl.
Don't sleep on it. I was expecting him to unfuck Clockwerk, Earth Spirit and Tusk. Didn't happen.

>>162708518
To be fair hes squishu as fuck and any hero that kills trees will fuck his day up. Its the trade off for having so much kill potential. Hes not very good at crowd control either. No his skills arent enough, his cool down on his stun makes him useless with out cc heroes and his ult is only really good at killing as little targets as possible

>>162708239
>Click other heroes in old UI
>Can see their hats
>Can't do anymore
Seems counterproductive Valve

>>162708518
He is a glasscannon anon. You only need to destroy the tree he is up and then he is an easy target. 4 sec stun, i only know a stun longer than that and is a max ranged Mirana arrow

>>162708192
add -high
>>162708121
>>162708192
What's vulkan

>>162707940
me

>>162708852
my penis

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>lan going on
>no english streams on twitch
>wca
>shit teams
>chink dota

>>162708782
how do you find the nigger without a hero with flying vision built in?

>>162708852
It's that thing /g/ pumps off at the sight of because muh FOSS

>>162708518
I think if there were more plentiful means to take out trees, any balance issues would be solved outright. At the moment you just have a handful of heroes that can destroy trees, and a few items.

Or alternatively, longer cooldown on treehopping, given the items used to cut down trees don't have as gracious of a cooldown period.

>>162708782
Theres so many heroes that fuck him

Timber at the highest

Batrider
Beastmaster
Natures
Pudge
Any one with dot

People will learn to counter him eventually

>>162708852
>add -high
doesn't improve anything. i even tried setting the priority from high to real time using process hacker. no dice. the problem is that the game is not using all of the available resources, that's something only valve can fix.

>What's vulkan
http://www.geekcosmos.com/what-is-vulkan-how-to-enable-it-on-dota-2/

>>162707671
Played League around 2013. --Actually-- enjoyed playing it, but it was just some brainless gaming. I didn't care for any of the optimization shit or the builds or whatever. Just go in, play and kill some time. But then a friend of mine was moving migrating to a different country so we had to find a game we could play (since LoL was Garena in my country) and then he suggested Dota. From then on, I never looked back.

>>162708941
isnt moonduck streaming it

>>162708941
Oh wait, moonduck is streaming.

>see Lycan trying to gank me from the river that I warded
>I have the optimal time to respond to this
>I freak out and run away from the tower because it can't protect me from the wrath of Lycan, Dark Seer, and Skywrath
>too late they're here
>Skywrath, Dark Seer, and Lycan fly up my ass

Too many new ramps, and trees are just for decoration now. Move speed is cheese.

>>162708852
It's supposed to unfuck dotas RAM usage and offer slightly better performance.

>>162708941
is she touching her penis haha

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valve can fuck themselves if they can't have the hub do this whenever i open shop

>>162709023
Should have went Wukong.

>>162708942
You find a place to put a ward, research. Or pick beastmaster and skill the hawk and there you go with flying vision.

>>162708962
>More plentiful
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Trees#Abilities_destroying_trees

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>can get crest and lvl 3 ult much faster now
>can easily get refresher by 45 mins
>everyone can do a ton of damage to each othee earlier thanks to said farming bonuses
.
>tfw im at least their support or a core every time
Curse just became disgusting again.

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GUYS!!!

I figured it out!

The reason why your hero's attributes aren't incorporated into the new HUD design and you need to press Alt to see them, is so they can easily add a new attribute/new attributes in the future.

The teased 4th Spirit hero in the Monkey King comic practically confirms this!

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>>162709140
Or you pick Timbersaw / Nature's Prophet and just annihilate whole forests until the monkey has nowhere to go

>>162708409
Black King added to the game when

>>162709304
W I S D O M

I have just one question.
How is are boys, the techies faring in this shitshow? Have they returned to glory?

Friendly reminder that there is an official dev forum that Valve actually pays attention to, if you have an issue with the new patch post about it there.

http://dev.dota2.com/

The only reason Valve listens to reddit so much is because they are literally the most noisy part of the community.

>>162708982
timber has a 40% win rate against Monkey King

>>162709318
this.
if he gets picked by enemy team you counterpick it with the tree destroyers
>scout which lane he goes
>destroy every trees on his lane
>pressure him and if he's in offensive just kite him
>win

>>162706186
Or they remove stats completely

Are the lifesteal talents UAMs?

>>162709448
Not a joke anymore

>>162709318
>>162709479

or just pick beast master with hawk and whirling axes.. not ot mention a reliable stun and a boar that slows and puts his tree dance on cd

im sure people assume beastmaster is bad against monkey king cuz he lost in le ebin cinematic

>>162709593
What did they change? I haven't played since they fucked over his abilities.

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DEEPEST LORE

THE UI KEEPS GETTING WORSE
>Prediction hidden in corner
>Name floating away
>Character not in portrait
>UI elements not in place
WEW

>>162709448
The role techies used to perform is dead, he is back to being joke hero levels of bad.

Any ranged hero can kill his mines without true sight, LOS is so bad on the new map that you can't hide mines in spots to keep them from getting denied, the bounty on mines was increased for no fucking reason, and you can no longer deny yourself without setup, thus making you an automatic free kill if caught out.

That being said, land mines now deal -insane- damage, and you can clear entire waves of creeps with one mine at level 5.

>teammate picks TA
>lose

Dotards?

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>>162709635
>call it nimbus
>its not a cloud
>just a recycled model
FROOOOOOOOOOOOOST AMMPHIIBIAAAAAAN

>spend years editing and changing little details of the map until its perfect
>after all that they completely redesign it so make some dome chink meme hero viable
this about sums up how i feel in general right now, 2k hours of practice for nothing

>tune in sing stream
>12 minutes in he loses his rax

hmmmm

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>>162709635
>old gyro aghs+de dusg sigil=nimbus cloud
B
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VALVE
O

>>162709632
Everything except his ult I think. Q mines work more as some kind of zoning, the stasis trap activates instantly instead of delay so its a huge buff but it roots instead of stun, the suicide attack becomes like some kind of jump that only takes half of your health but still you can denied yourself with it. This is all based of what I understood.

>>162709757
I think the new map is cool. I keep getting lost trying to find the secret shop though.

>>162709757
>2k hours of practice for nothing
Yeah because beign good at dota means something in real life

>>162709832
you would think it should mean something in Dota

>>162709858
I raped the shit out of my oponents as a 1v3 PL offlaner in my first ever 7.0 game, you're just shit at the game but blame the patch because you're too much of a faggot to accept it.

>>162709971
>rape trilane as pl
yeah great job mr triple digit mmr guy

>>162710163
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2844468456
Have fun stalking me.

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>watching Sing stream
>playing meepo
>he still builds dragon lance
I thought this joke item was nerfed

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https://twitter.com/LiquidKuroKy/status/808931243073081344

Kuro is awake

>>162710272
-1 str was the only change to the item, I don't even know why they bothered.

>>162709304
I finally see now

this must be what enlightenment feels like

>>162710329
Someone was pretending to be icefrog.

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>>162710313
SHUT IT DOWN

>>162710313
its really hard to focus on the game when you have no fucking idea whats happening

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>>162710217
>3.2k

>they removed the ui shake

thnk god

>>162710442
I think also Meepo got buffed with the clones sharing full attributes thing. I might be wrong

>meepo lvl 25 only 20 minutes in
What?

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>>162710450
I bet Cyborgfat is responsible for the meaningless changes

>>162710464
Here's a (you) because you actually took the time to stalk me and that makes me feel important.

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>>162710313

>kuro GOD doesn't like the new patch

is it time for patch-apologists to get on their knees?

just admit they fucked up everything

>muh change is good! muh "complexity"

kill yoruself xD

>watching some rando game of dota
>10 minutes in slark gets a ultra kill

DOTA IS A BRAWLER

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Because of how fast gold and XP is now I just spend all game farming a rapiers

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>sing's solo mmr isn't even 8k

uhhhh dotards?

If everyone gets talents, who cares?
If both teams get free uncontestible bounty runes, do they even matter?
If everyone hits 25 at midgame just by not feeding, is it really that exciting anymore?

Feels like 7.00 just just added a bunch of fluff that makes everything less impactful.

For comparison, making Observers and Sentries stack in 1 slot spiced up doto way more than all of 7.00 combined.

>>162710825
Pubs aren't compatible with him

>>162709757
icefregg doesn't work on this game anymore, there's no way he would give dire such a shitty side by moving rosh

>>162710923
>icefrog apologist
face it he's gone past madman and into absolute retard

>>162710729
xD

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>kuro and ppd are the only ones with balls enough to speak out against the patch

Based

Has anybody ever met a Monkey King that was a huge flaming asshole?

All my games I have lost were due to a Monkey King player and then last game there was a Monkey King who picked safelane and I initially thought he was a cool guy. Turns out hes a huge faggot. Its the LPQ for him

In that same game, I explained to the mid why I preferred being the carry, because I can deal with asshole supports more than asshole carries, sheesh

>>162710865
I've been thinking about that too, also it feels like there are so many resources is actually impossible to take advantage of everything, bounty runes constantly get ignored over how many fights there are.

>>162710865

old dota
>outplay mid, he's forced to leave lane or gank

new dota
>outplay mid, he goes to jungle and comes out with full hp and mana every 5 minutes

balance xD

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>>162707638
im ok with this

>>162711029
Considering the pace of Nu-dota, leaving the lane for any ammount of time is punishing.

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>>162708020
It's limiting it to your monitor refresh rate which is 120Hz you fucking retard.
Your g-sync meme won't push more frames than necessary to the monitor.

>>162711089
Nah bro, that's why you have bounty runes and extra jungle camps. If anything you just have to time correctly when to go jungle for maximum efficiency.

>>162706976
We league now, play with your map on right side of screen like league and the problem is solved, why would you play like dota? this is lol now ;)

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>>162709656
>Any ranged hero can kill his mines without true sight
How?

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Nature's Prophet
lv25 talent: additional treants spawned from +6 to +12 :thinking:

what did he mean by this

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

>>162711464
he's building an empire

>>162711464
EG is going to exit Dota

>>162709656
>you need to be inside the blast radius (which is huge) to see it and also manage to destroy within 1.6 seconds
Unless you somehow already know where the mine is that shit will remove half of your health before you have time to turn around.

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>>162711276
Any hero can, not just ranged.

>>162711464
Next step is to seize twitch, in a few years ppd will control everything esports-related.

So, /d2g/ what do I do if Monkey King gets past banning and some know-it-all instapicks him and demands safelane?

I always lose when this happens

>>162711464
>Arteezy joined EG on the condition that PPD would leave the team
>Now he's literally his boss instead
Artour really can't catch a break huh

>>162711390
>>162711276
>normie memes

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>CM is still better than Lina

>>162711668
>Playing ranked when the patch is this new.
You deserve to lose.

How do you build luna?

LOL fuck this game valve just went full retard

we frozen throne now

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>mfw the only negative about the patch is the CPU useage and the fact that monkey king is a broken piece of shit

Talents are more interesting than stats.

Also, the new jungle will make WR a meta pick because you literally can't miss your shackles.

>>162711718
better at sucking dick

>>162707671
Temple Siege UMS

>subhuman tier:
QWER
Legacy hotkeys
>/mlpol/ tier
ZDTK

>>162711781
FROSTMOURNE HUNGERS

>>162711781
Next patch: portal gate on either side of the river so you can quickly transit from top to bottom and back again.

when the fuck is 10v10 getting updated

>>162708941
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS PHOTO

>>162711835
when is 6v6 ranked coming out ?

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if we can get all the pros to complain about the patch maybe icefrog will fix it

>>162711808

i'll say this again: people who like this patch are sub-3k mmr faggots or people who are shit at this game.

You don't understand how bad this patch actually is. You don't understand the balance can of worms that has been opened. You don't understand how strategy has gone out the window. This game is now a fucking fighter/brawler and you're not good enough to see this.

this is why reddit loves this patch and the majority of good players are staying mum. Look at nadota.com. They fucking hate it.

I'm only going to respond to your response if you post a screenshot of your MMR because i'm willing to bet you aren't even 3k.

>>162711925
>icefrog
>undoing patches
haha sure thing haha

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>>162708393
my favorite change of this patch

>>162708393
he had unused voice lines for years

>>162712005
S-source?

>>162711981
>pros get to approve of the patches before they go live
>pros don't get a say in anything and hate icefraud
so which is it, proshitters?

I wouldn't be surprised if all the pros go to league and dota is kill in the next 1-2 years

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>muh competitive integrity of a dumbed down version of WC3

Anyone know of a way to make dota open up on a second monitor? I don't want it on my main monitor because that's where I want windows to open on when I'm playing games. Other games remember when I set my second monitor or have an option, but not dota

>>162712194
>posting "top ten anime betrayals" unironically.

Just tried techies. Shit is pretty cash.
Regular mines are fucked beyond belief but they do enough damage to lane flow that they have their niche.

>>162710990
Player reports don't put anyone in low priority, it just mutes them for a while if they get a lot of them (and I mean a lot, like hundreds in a week).

I'm talking from experience.

>for years, "Valve will never change the HUD because of HUD skins. FUCKING JEWS!"

>now
>"WHY DID VALVE CHANGE THE UI? MY HUD SKINS!!!!! FUCKING JEWS!"

Anyway,

>+4 mana regen

HOHO HAHA

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WHITE PIGGU GO HOMU
THIS CHINA GAME NOW

how is oy vey in chinese

>>162712403
I dont know, how is oy vey in english?

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>I hate dota now, It's too much like league of legends :(
>I'm gonna go play league of legends instead

explain this logic, dotards

why do teams still go to wca? dont they never payout?

>>162712403
choy voy

>>162712523
>they play league
>either they like it or hate it and decide to go back to dota2

brb I have a patchu to download

>>162712523

no one will play either T BH fa m

I'm telling you, frozen throne is coming back

>>162712573
Chink. Pussy.

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>>162708703
>Can't inspect
>Can't see team names
>Can't see mana when spectating
>Have to find magic pixel to be able to click showcase view underneath live rewind seek bar

Without holding alt:
>Can't see stats
>Can't see LH/DN
>Can't see KDA
>Can't see base damage

PROGRESS / ETERNAL BETA

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Does sing know Steins Gate Zero came out like a month ago? or does he not care and Tuturu is just a meme?

>>162708331
~le happy merchant

>>162712740
sing is a meme

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>Wukong's ult monkeys bash

>>162712740
He's been spouting that meme for over a year, if not two. I'm not aware if he actually knows where it's from.

>>162712523
With 7.00 Dota just awkwardly transitioned into being a LoL-Dota hybrid.

And while LoL may be shittier in some ways, at least it has the confidence to not turn into another moba overnight.

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>get 4 stacks on my team
>troll them hard
FUCK DOTA I HAVE FUN WITH MY OWN WAY

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>>162712523
Why would I not play the more alive game when they're turning into the exact same game?

I'm an idiot who plays LoL and isn't even very good at it
Can I play DotA yet? And can I play Io?

>>162712873
>4 stack dun goofed when clash occurs

gg ez

>literally #NotMyPatch tier

ayy lamo

>>162712523
I don't get it either but I haven't queued up since 6.86 because shit is literally out of control.

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>>162712967
>their tears when I just walk away from that mess teamfight

Is the HUD still garbage?

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GUUEEEESS WHO'S BACK FAGGOTS
>Those lane changes
>That amp'd up damage on mines
>That insta stasis
>Fucking mobile suicide (sort of)
They're definitely different but they're FUCKING BACK!
FUCKING FINALLY.

>>162706459
Underrated post

>>162712873
I believe you should only throw when you have anal tryhards and crybabies. It's a learning opportunity for people who get mad at video games.

Trolling the innocent is just rude.

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>both us and enemy team used all the buybacks
>literally do or die
>enemy team is at rosh
>I'm playing earthshaker
>finally I can be like universe at TI5 grand finals!
>blink in the pit
>echo slam
>doter crash
>reconnect
>we are all dead since enemy carry survived the crash and echo, didn't pause and killed all of us
>lose
GOOD FUCKING GAME VALVE GOOD FUCKING GAME

REMINDER TO PLAY THE ONE TRUE KING

ARMLET + MASK OF MADNESS IS LITERALLY THE BALLING OUT OF CONTROL BUILD NOW

>>162713208
don't you fucking dare delay games again.
I had enough 2 hour games when techies was released i dont need this fucking bullshit again

>>162713208

You forgot about the real terror that is back

HOHO HAHA

There's no laning, everyone is fucking level 25.

They need to remove bonus xp/gpm shit right now.

>pa abandons mid at level 3 after diving monkey king under his tier one tower and I spend the next 5 minutes farming mid as techies
>firstpick tree and somehow forced to go mid by my team
monkey king on my team refuses to do anything and just types xd in chat
>kill 3, push mid by myself while the rest of the team goes to jungle
This is the worst dota I have ever played. Every game is consistently a horrible shitfest. It's not even the changes made from the patch, I have never had such a consistently poor quality of games in the 5 years I have played.

>>162713309
You can't hoho when you're dead.

@162712873
>get butthurt about stacks in UN FUCKING RANKED
>act like total asshat and feed on purpose
>le trolled xdd

deny yourself faggot

>>162713257
being a tryhard myself, I would never do that if my team actually win (maybe because of that sometimes I got commends)
all the stack shitters I got are just "haha who cares man I dont even know dota had update" and just feed mindlessly while first pick lemon key king

>>162713310

Talent trees and UI are honeypot distraction changes for those of minimal intelligence.

XP change (and shrines) were the BIGGEST changes. And XP right now got shifted to the left, creating a positive feedback loop that makes people hit max level at fucking 25 minutes

>sniper on my team gets 4 rapiers and aghs
>4k damage AoE shots from half the map away

is this balanced doturds?

>>162713427
>t. 4 stack shitter

>>162707671
two bot matches of demigod cause i got it in some bundle

some hots with friends when it was beta

some overwatch with friends when it was beta (although i wouldn't count it as a moba but people seem to)

a couple of games of dawngate, couldn't get into it either although people praise it

>>162713437
If there is one thing I agree with the complainers is that exp gain is out of control and needs to get nerfed asap.

>>/v/360635729

press F

>>162713427
find a 5th or deal with it fuckface

>>162713430
I doubt you'd lose if your team had their priorities right. You can go 0-15 yet still make a comeback for the team

>>162713427
kys yourself

>>162712523
jokes on you I'm playing Shadowverse

>>162713564

What

>>162713310
gold is untouched, which people dont look at.
being lv 25 with 3-4 items only is garbage since death timer is higher now for anything beyond lv 20. also makes all levels have a purpose now.

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>>162713609
I just do what n0lans told me man

>>162713659

Idk how to link to other forums

/v/thread/360635729

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>>162713738

>>162713662
Only levels 18, 20 and 25 have a purpose past 15 which is still better than before, but that's still a lot of empty levels specially when you consider that there are no +stats to fill the slots.

Anyone want to duo with me in the 2k trenchies?
i like to have fun By that i mean cheesing with undying and someone with a stun, or just anything cheesy in general. i could get out of here if i just played meepo nonstop but what fun would that be.

>>162713534
nah i mostly play with 1 or 2 friends in RANKED, where we actually try to win, ask the randoms what roles they want to play and never unjustly blame them if our stack plays badly
i know how it feels like to get blamed by a stack when one or more players of the said stack are doing terrible
not everyone who plays in stacks is a massive fuckface

any enjoying the patch man in?

>>162713829
I'm enjoying it because it's new

I also haven't played for the past 2 years

>>162713738
do one more meme arrow when linking cross boards

>>162713437
>fucking hitting level 17 as meepo at fifteen minutes.
NEVER HAVE I BEEN MORE ALIVE.
tfw i still lost that game with the score going something like their team ahving 40 kills and my team being 30 with literally 24-28 of them being me. Only issue was they got smart and i got dumb and each of my 6 deaths were 1k gold.

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>>162713437
but that's the point?

the whole purpose of earlier max outs is to fullfill skill trees quicker, instead of games ending where most heroes don't even reach 25.

It also opens up the possibilities of item builds to allow much more, like ags and utility items. The whole point is to essentially diminish the boring mid game where heroes are just farming on their sides of the map, and extend late game where the main plays get made. It's supposed to make games shorter but not so short that it's entirely decided in laning or drafting who wins.

More balance patches are absolutely necessary for heroes like treant and monkey king, but in terms of game length I'm actually liking the new shortness. Usually most games of dota I play go over 55 minutes and never go beyond 80. After the patch, lots of games go over 35-40 and never surpass 55. I actually like this, tho I'm curious how pro dota will adjust to this time change

>>162713762
yeah but you reach them faster and talents make up for more than those stats.
Ice frog could have made lv 20 the final cap and accomodate with the same xp rate of before and would have the same feeling and progress we have now.
However the mass xp doesnt really change they importance of farming and talents arent as broken as many would liek to belive.

>>162713894
Deads are way more punishing now, I believe there is some hidden mid-lategame balance that we have yet to discover since games rarely get past 40 minutes now.

>>162713889

so I put that before?

>>>/v/360635729
>>>360635729

the sad part is I'm an oldschool /b/tard

kids these days

am I supposed to take gold/min or respawn time for CM?

or just in general is the -respawn time worth it?

>>162713980
>planning on dying

>>162713973
I had 100 second respawn timers at what, 20 minutes since i was level 22. i just pulled up the replay. That was without buyback, buyback put me at 130

>>162713947
> I'm actually liking the new shortness.
>25 game in the lead and hitting the high ground
>cant take it becasue shrines
>die
>game extends to 40 min becasue comback gold
high ground is imposible to take with shrines unless you have aa.

>>162713427
You stackfaggots deserve every bit of shit you get, kill yourself

How can I find a friendly good player to teach me how to play earth spirit ?

Not just what I should buy, but when to rotate etc

>>162713980
just take the gold and save for buyback

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>Games are a constant non stop 5 man brawl now and everyone is the same level
U-uh... D-dotards?

>We want the LoL and HotS audience
Genuine concern

>UI glows green and everything that happens on the map makes iphone sounds
I didn't ask for this

>A lot of really basic information is hidden behind having to hold alt
But why

>>162714043
Yo yeah, this shrine stuff is lame.
>implement stuff to make the game go by faster
>get to high ground
>shrines don't fucking die
>if you aren't insanely ahead it takes like 3-4 pushes
>by then enemy team is catching up

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>euls hero
>trap him with treants
>autoblinks out of them the moment he comes down
YOU CANT POSSIBLY DEFEND THIS LOLBABIES

>>162714098
>non-stop brawl
>LoL
pick one.

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>>162714098
>HotS audience

>game client is out of date for the fifth time today

>>162713820
party ranked is just the same as unranked (sometimes it's worse because it puts ranked soloq player in disadvantages)
ofc there is always 1 or 2 players that are good and want to win I wont deny that, but their fucking shitface friends are retards and they dont want to ruin their friendship so the good guy just side with them and blame the solo player instead. If they dont even want to try to win since the beginning, why bother playing and make the game experience worse for others

>>162714043
yes, by far shrines need a nerf, I do agree there as well.

They should be destroyable after T2 towers honestly, that way it adds another optional objective before highground pushing. Also would gives teams an actual reason to defend the shrines, because as it stands, once you've lost your T3's they don't even matter anymore

>>162714150
just because no one dies doesnt mean they arent constantly fighting

>>162714098
very few of the changes are LoL-like
HotS doesn't have an audience

>>162711981
>t. 2k shitter

>>162714185
You would still be crying about >>162706976 if it wasn't.

I'll take a hotfix every other hour over the game staying a broken piece of shit, thank you.

Random doesn't work in normal all pick?

>Started watching initial D
>It's fucking amazing and i love the show
>Am i a filthy weeb now?

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>You can see where the enemy positions their hero pregame
Dotards?

>>162712523
I really don't understand this meme. If anything it has adopted some things from Heores of the Storm, but not everything you dislike is "League".

>>162714354
no you can't

you can predict their lane placements

>>162714303
>watching anime one time
>doesn't make you
>a weeb
>its like saying
>your a GAMER
>if you only played
>mobile games
>why are
>you
>greentexting
>btw
>?

Do you think the chilltoad plays his own game? What mmr would he be?
>6k

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>>162714303
its only a matter of time before you start wearing girl clothes with your tongue sticking out, lustful eyes and warm saliva dropping from your cockhungry mouth. Your ass begging to be touched, pleading almost and at that moment you realise you are finally happy

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>>162714378
Oh

>>162711670
>Arteezy joined EG on the condition that PPD would leave the team

Is this true? I knew the guy was a faggot but wow

>>162714354
>>162714452
stupid cat poster

>>162709656

You can still hide it behind trees and uphill. It's the only way it won't be completely useless.

New mines has two purposes:

-Guarding jungle pathways and ramps, where they can be easily concealed.

-Adding some quick and substantial damage to a minestack setup. Before, stacking land mines and remote mines on top of eachother for more damage wasn't that effective because in order to utilize the full damage the enemy would first have to walk directly on top of the land mine stack. Now, proximity mines scale stronger (you'll be level 7 in no time) and have a trigger radius that matches the Remotes. This means you can have a lethal mine trap with a 400 trigger radius set up in 10 seconds, no question. That's huge.

>>162714464
FOR THE BOYZ XDDDD

>make new account
>instapick Monkey King
>buy boots some smokes and a tp
>smoke towards enemy fountain
>hop between trees when needed
>disguise and walk into fountain
>buy and drop shit in enemy fountain
>laugh your dick off

Best patch in years.

>>162714429
I imagine icefrog is to dota what sakuri is to smash bros. Only ever plays it to test stuff, only ever plays against other people in the company, probably attends TI's undercover

What was the 'goal' of this update?

Appeal to casuals? I'm a casual and i'm more confused than ever and the tutorial is really barebones

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>>162714530
Dont bully!

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>>162714530
rude

>>162714643

I'm disappointed Monkey King's disguise doesn't count as a tree for various abilities.

>Timbersaw can't chain to Monkey King
>Treant can't stay invis next to Monkey King

>>162714684

I'm casual as fuck and I played one game and honestly I am never playing dota 2 again. time for vanilla WoW, GTA V, and FIFA.

if frozen throne all stars comes back I'll be back again though

>>162706186
Dota 2?
More like Load-a Poo
this game is shit and is full of filth, lmao!

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>>162713257
>implying there are 4 stacks that are not anal try-hard crybabies

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>>162714684

>>162714684
>This patch
>A fuckton of new things.
>Way more complex game
>Appeal to casuals

cogntive dissonance hell of rug

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Finally uninstalled. This game isnt dota anymore. Do i install Frozen throne now or what? What are you fags doing instead of lolta?

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>see tp on the ground
>oh nice free tp
>go to pick it up
>it was actually MK with infested lifestealer with infested slardar

>sniper rushes aghs

don't do that

>>162714817
>made by a shit skin named Abdul
>their PR guy is also a fucking shit skin who has to use white filter for avatar
cant make this shit up fampai

>>162714431
Oh fuck, i knew it. Well, i'll embrace it, nothing other i can do

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>>162714684
Yes this patch that adds a whole new set of variables to the game was obviously made to attract more casuals

>>162714745
>pairing mk with treant

That's broken as fuck already! Why would you break it even more?!

Remember to not stop reporting Techies faggots.

>>162715067
>>>/reddit/

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>>162714643
t-thanks

>>162715067
le ebin techies hate maymay
>>>/r/eddit

WHERE ARE MY HERO BUILDS CAPCOM

WHERE ARE THEY


OH MY GOD


WHY ARE THEY GONE

>>162714684
appeal to lolfags

mark my words soon we will have mandatory jugglers

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>beat the offlanner
>he gets a free fountain trip (shrine), bounty runes and 2 jungle camps to fall back to

Does this thread have a discord or nah?
I just got back into the game and could use some people to play with.

>>162715123
>Jungle got absolutely bloody rework where you cannot AFK rice anymore.
>A ton of roaming is buffed.

>le LOLFAGS LE JUNGLE LE FARM

kys retard

>>162715136
>not seizing his jungle

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>>162714643

>>162715136
pull the lane and use your own shrine you retard

>>162715136
It's fucking stpid.

>>162715191
the only thing i want to seize anon is your boypussy

Hey!

Why did the madman turn Lich into a carry?

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>>162713961
>talents make up for more than those stats
power creep as fuck