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/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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Basilisk Edition

! CURSED ! >>162647135

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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/dsg/ is kil
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I love FCs!
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Is relying on a shield and fatrolling viable in dark souls 3? At least for pve stuff?
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>>162705172
n
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Aw man I sure so love being a mobile user I've typed this out three fucking times now.
I was doing PvP at pontiffs, I found three chuggers, a host who tried to bank me with the red phantom mid fight, and a red who did the same. One chugger I liked most because it was a fatroller with irithyll SS and avelyn. What's this new offhand avelyn meme? I've found so many people doing it.
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I wish i could enjoy this series for its pvp, but 80% of invades/arenas being against people who have third world internet has destroyed this series for me
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>>162705172
Sure til you get invaded then you'll die or summon a million times.
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>>162706048
This is what I don't get about people who's main interest in the games is pvp. The very groundwork it stands on invalidates any sort of smooth gameplay and the combat really doesn't have a whole lot of depth even if it wasn't working over such a half-assed platform.
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>>162705172
Not when bosses have turbofast anime combos that demolish your stamina when blocking very quickly
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I can understand why fight club would ban esten flask since chads need it to keep going after each round.

But why ban it in a duel? You don't use your flasks after the duel is over and each player can use them.

>muh honourable fight to death
Ask your doctor for autism pills. It's a video game, flasks are part of the game. If the developers didn't want you using it in soap duels they would have done so.

>it ruins diversity
No it doesn't. If it did trolls would constantly be winning with attrition chugger strategies. Chuggers are no one near the level of dominance that would warrant a ban in the same kind of way pokemon or smash characters get banned.

>it prolongs the fight
Stop being a carebear, this is hardly an issue.

>it takes no skill
If it takes no skill then why can't you use it?
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>>162707249
Because in a duel between phantom and host, the host would have 8 more flasks
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>tfw Demons Souls online is ded
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>>162705936
Offhand crossbow became a meme because of how easy they are to use to finish chuggers as they attempt a chug after going some distance.

First for mouse and keyboard best way to play for unlocked combat. It throws off pursuers every time when I 180 and pokey poke with my poker or slam with my red stick. It's optimal for all ranged combat, especially in pve.

If unlocked strafing was a possible option, m&kb would be unstoppable. Rate my opinion from pleb to not pleb.
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>the autistic animetard at it again
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>>162707336
>dks1 hovers around 2000 on pc
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>>162707249
Why do you need estus in a duel in the first place?

Prolonging the fight is bottom line not the issue, you've been outplayed if you've gotten to the point where you need estus

Why in a duel, that you've gone out of your way to partake in, do you feel the need to bash someone for expecting you to be honorable, they aren't invading you, you're bringing them to your world for a fight

Maybe you just need to fuck off and invade if you want to estus, instead of trying to get butthurt about people playing by common sense rules.
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>>162708001

Why do you need to be best 2 out of 3 in all major competitions?

And its not common sense rules its literally just carebears being carebears.
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Guys I can't beat Siegmeyer.
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>>162707861
Fucking guy won't let up on a unspoken, long held rule that everyone breaks every once in a while. He's calling other people autistic when he's the only one still arguing this hardly regulated rule. You must be baiting at this point or genuinely retarded.
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>>162708251
He's baiting and people are replying to him. This would be a better place if people just ignored obvious bait.
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I know that it caused pvp balance problems, but I am glad that phantoms could sip in Dark Souls II and III.

I'm replaying I, and co-op is aggravating. Most hosts are incredibly rude. For the past two times I've fought Quelaag, not one of my hosts have even taken an estus flask when I'm at low health.

The stupidity astounds me.
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>>162708154
>fighting Siegmeyer
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>>162708461

I'm doing the true boss order run.
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>>162708363
phantoms couldn't sip while an invader was present in dark souls 2

all they had to do was keep this rule for dark souls 3.
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>>162708618

Yes, that was a good design choice in II, but forcing invaders to only heal with warmth or miracles was retrograde.
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Souls-senpai, can I borrow your ears for a moment?

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how do i kill lorian? i know i gotta get gud but what else should i know
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@162708872
Fuck off, shill.
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@162708872
No (You) for (You), shill
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>>162708915
Bleed and you can also parry him
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>>162709151

Autism hurts
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just saw vengarl face in ds2
holy shit that ps1 tier face is so creepy
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>>162709267
I mean velstat
I thought he named Vergarl, because of Garl, until i Googled, lol.
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>>162707336
>tfw armored core verdict day
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>>162708872
When did 4chan start doing advertisements in the middle of posts?

Sony must be really desperate to be paying interns to spam 4chan ads.
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>>162709184
>>162709151
>>162709061
I always give a (you) to shitty posts, it's important to make it clear and obvious how shit they are. Otherwise someone reading might be tricked into thinking shilling is around here.
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What kind of players/builds piss you off the most

For me it's casterbabies that spam vestiges or soul spear and run as soon as you get near them

In group there's nothing worse than 2 or more players using washingpoles
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>>162710969
Rate how annoying you'd think I'd be. I use a longsword, halberd, and occasionally a pokey stick. I also use rope bombs anytime I can, especially when back peddling.

Also, I've literally never encountered a caster that wasn't in a gank squad.
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So what the fuck is this shiny shit?
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>tfw no dark souls playing gf
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>>162711147

The Abyss.
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>>162709175
i see but i cannot parry and i cant bleed cause no points in luck
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>>162711176
>tfw gf wants to play dark souls but she can't even walk straight in JRPGs

>>162711270
What's this about bleed and luck?
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>>162711293
i would kill for any female who plays video games

i have never spoken to one
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>>162711328
me neither i'm a lesbian though
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>>162711328
If she can't walk straight obviously that means she doesn't play much.
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>>162711389
if i was a lesbian and not a straight dude i would have a billion times more luck

i've met 12 lesbians and no straight girls into this shit game kill me
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>>162711176

PC? FC? BF?
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#TipTuesday
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>>162708001
This is why I don't partake in autist tryhard loser high level pvp, the game was designed for you to be able to heal in some manner sometimes you get phantom ranged, sometimes you get the random ass pebble that makes your sword bounce off it like a mcdonalds pit ball and sometimes you fight some fucking tryhard using a meme weapon and you gotta take a few hits to learn how passive he is before you pull something else out and completely wreck him without getting hit again.
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>>162711676
I would host an FC daily if it meant a GF
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>>162711176
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0IlRlMAbHWT
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>>162710969
I haven't played DS3, but in DS2 hoooly shit there are a few builds that I hate:

1. Hex spammers. These are the guys who start button mashing R1 as soon as you are summoned, draining through dark orb and sometimes climax. Unless you have a dedicated anti-hex shield then you have to basically do 4 or 5 perfectly timed rolls (since hexes will stun you out of a roll) just to START fighting.

2. Buffed-Infused Katana or Longsword "Meta" builds at low SM. (usually min-maxing SM by throwing on Vengarl's or Drangleic armor and investing all their souls into stats and the weapon). These are the most statistically effective builds, the game's mechanics supports them (wonky thrust hitboxes, 2H buff to poise destruction, 2-hit stunlock rule) the problem is that the counter to this strategy is ONLY possible at high SM when you can buff your elemental defense with GMB and use Rob Flynn. It's the equivalent of that shitty kid who always picks the strongest fighting game character and never uses anything else, but also never plays against anyone good enough to punish him.

3. Poison rapiers and spotted whip. Do I need to say more? When they're bad, it turns the match into an impossible trading game where after every attack you have to run away for 20 seconds to let your poison heal, and they have to constantly chase you around (worse on iron keep where space is limited). If they're good, they'll keep throwing out poison mist and running away, trolling you until you make a mistake and end up poisoned. After that happens your choice is to either run away and die, or use a poison moss while they throw out a forbidden sun.

Thankfully, at SL200+ these builds all become less viable. I'd rather fight a melee / greatbox gank squad than a single hex spammer.
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>>162711961
l-lewd
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>opponent does decapitate
>gets destroyed in the fight
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>>162711702
dark souls team bringing the HEAT
>>162711147
bathtub
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>>162711328
You think that until you get one

I had a girlfriend I lived with that played games with me and she was beyond garbage

So ontop of my own frustrations in competitive games, I now had her playing the same games as me I guess to be closer to me, and now I have her comment about shit over and over, I have to listen to her whine about stupid shit in the game and asked for advice over and over , I mean take any general, do you think "ffs read the OP" when people ask the same questions in every thread? Yeah well it's like that only you can't get away from it

Then they'll start talking lore with you. And discussing their own theories, which is usually something they saw on YouTube, and they only understand what they listened to on YouTube and often only remember parts of it so it's annoyingly ill informed a lot of the times, for this one id like you to imagine someone that wants to talk about say, multiplication in math, but they don't know anything about math other than multiplication and they can't get whatever you call it, order of something pemdas or whatever right either

Women are fucking annoying and the last thing you want is for them to become a part of the gaming aspect of your life (although fucking a gamer girl can be fun if you met them online desu, but they get lame after a few months trust me)

Btw I'm happily married I don't hate women I just hate women that play games with me
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>tfw a boss hard counters your build and you fight till you're out of estus and you have to just hang way the fuck back with your phantoms do their business

Feels fuckin' bad.
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>>162713452
Dear, that's not a problem with women. That's a problem with being in a relationship. Gay men have that problem too.
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Shit's getting spooky
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>>162713452
you don't understand how nice that sounds

even the most annoying vidya girl will at least share something in common with me. I feel like clawing my own eyeballs out so I never have to see a girl again
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10/10 best game
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>>162714826
>naked
>attacking NPC with his shield up
>has a greatshield but doesn't keep it up while trying to get behind

holy fuck you must have been terrified to be playing that badly
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>>162715691
>naked
I have rags. Only thing I can equip atm.

>attacking NPC with his shield up
He put it up as I was trying to combo. My reaction time isn't that legendary to be able to tell. Watch a little closer on that.

>has a greatshield but doesn't keep it up while trying to get behind
I'm not super familiar with those enemies but I thought I could just waltz right around them like I could with most enemies. I was wrong.
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>>162715691
Also I'd like to mention that I had no stamina at that point so it's not like I could block it anyways.
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>>162715860
I actually do have to empathize with this

when you're playing in-game, everything seems slower and your reaction times more sluggish than when you're watching a video and you can see things earlier
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>>162716473
Don't get me wrong, it's 3AM, and I'm not on my A-game, so I know I'm not playing great, but I do believe in being fair, too.
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>>162711556
>I've met 12 lesbians and no straight women
Unless you live in San Fransisco that's super unlikely and more likely is that you're being creepy/pushy and they say they're a lesbian to let you down softly.

If I could post a pic right now it'd be the "Hi I'm Brian!"-image of a fedora trting to hit on a woman through Xbox live.
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how was your day
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>>162713452
>I mean take any general, do you think "ffs read the OP" when people ask the same questions in every thread?
the difference being that i can't cuddle with those people
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>>162707973
Dark Souls 1 with DSCM is completely fine. And co-oping in DS1 is still fun as fuck, too bad the healing system forces the phantoms to rely on manatees if they don't have miracles but I guess that's why clerics exist.
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>>162709402
Vengarl Vinland
But well, he's gone almost full hollow dude and you can't really see it during gameplay or the cutscene.

>>162717405
Day would be fine except I'm gonna be at work for 4-5 hours and then the commute home before I can actually play Souls. Feels badman.
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>>162717405
Not too good desu, slept pretty badly and I've been putting off stuff for a few weeks. Trying to motivate myself. Thanks for asking.
>>162717567
DaS1 and DaS2 have surprisingly good numbers on Steam. They both sit in 2K plus with DaS3 going down to 5K or so. I'll prob try spicing stuff up by going back to both of those a bit.
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>>162717937
DS1 is fine but DS2 seems to be perma-fucked thanks to SM. Never saw bell tower this empty, it's like 10 minutes between summons on 200k and almost no other bellfags.
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Is the best level for co-op in Lothric Castle and beyond still 80?
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How 2 git gud at Oceiros? I can't just summon for this fucker and be done with it, right?
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>>162718138
any 100% physical resist shield
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>>162718138
REMEMBER THE 5 D's OF DARK SOULS:
DODGE, DIP, DUCK, DIVE AND DODGE
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>>162718081
Yeah, SM is pretty fucking stupid - I haven't looked at that game in a while, look forward to going back to both it and 1 for a bit though, even if the activity is hit/miss. Just bored with DaS3 right now.

>>162718138
Stand right in his ass during his second phase at all times - The only thing he can hit you with then is the tail spin. Don't try and stand in front of him cause of that 0 frame startup charge shit. Couple the above with a physical resist shield as you try and get right in his ass and he's a joke.
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>>162718181
I was using Yhorms and he was still piercing it. I dunno, it seems like there's has been changes in how blocking works from 1 to 3 and I seem to take more damage than I should even with 100% resist.
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>>162718138
Dodge with his swings and hide under his belly, I guess. You can kill every boss if you just learn their moveset in a couple of failed attempts instead of sperging them til you get lucky.
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>>162718138
Killed that shit literally on the first time, what could possibly be hard?
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>>162717405
Trying to 100% DaS1 and halfway through Witcher 3. I need to study reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>162717495
>>162717246
>>162711556
>>162711328

>"Oh man a girl would sound so nice I really want a girl to cuddle with it would be just like my japanese anime and porn"

A girl isn't something you go buy at the girl store to make yourself feel better. Don't ever get a girlfriend because you're lonely.

What you really want is a pet to cuddle, a plant to take care of, and a fleshlight to fuck.
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>>162718661
All I want for Christmas is a Pretty Girlfriend and if Santa doesn't bring me one I'll make myself a Sweetheart from the Ground-Up!
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>>162718138
You can summon Hawkwood if you want to be a skreb. I've literally never died to Oceiros so I don't know what up.
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Just saw a post on /v/ and want to confirm here: Did ENB really quit his day job for YouTube/Twitch/whatever? Did his wife really leave him?
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>>162718942
Apparantly it's a case of the 3 AM and having trouble with his first phase. His second phase was laughably easy, but I kept dying in the first.
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Dead thread dead general? Only English speakers that play live in merica?
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>>162719002
Yes to both.
I'm not gonna sperg about his personal life further but both are correct.
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>>162719002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aDZuCkKGkk&t=3580
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>>162719002
>>162719221
lmaao
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>>162719002
>just saw a post on /v/
Can you link the thread here?
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>>162719002
Couldn't have happened to a better person.
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>>162719002
His Twitch "career" if you will, is extremely profitable. I counted that he's getting at least 6500$ monthly PLUS donations. His office costs only 600$ in rent so it's 5900$ in profit as far as immediate costs go.

Twitch streaming has a few downsides, one of which is that job security is non existent and if you get sick for an extended period there's no health insurance but currently it's working out for him very well.
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>>162719453
By "just", I mean a couple nights ago. 404'd long by now, sorry

>>162719234
>it's true
>that commentary afterwards
Jesus Christ, he really has retreated to his own little hugbox. I mean, I can't relate or even understand what he's going through, but that can't be great for him.

Alright, thanks /dsg/.
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Between this pure white shit and that shiny shit in >>162711147 does that mean my PS4 is dying?
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>>162719514
Was there some shit with the Bloodborne guide or do I remember wrong?
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>>162718493
>>162718661

Nice save.

>a planet

kek
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>>162719963
He lied about the quality of DaS2 and misled people about what was in the BB guide to benefit himself.

>>162719992
>he doesn't have a planet
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>>162720041
>misled people about what was in the BB guide
Any more as to what this actually entailed?
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>>162719835
Shoddy texture work.
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>>162719835
That shit is on PC as well, From just forgot to but textures there.
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>>162719992
I mean I would love a planet to take care of but sometimes it's not practical.
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>>162720041
>He lied about the quality of DaS2 and misled people about what was in the BB guide to benefit himself.


Doesn't make him deserving of shit, though. Lawyers, bankers, DMV workers, the fucking cashiers at Wal-mart lie to you to benefit their own jobs, that's just part of human existence. People are gonna look out for themselves. I wouldn't want any of those people to go through that kind of shit either.
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Guys, what is the best area for grinding Evangelists?

I really want that Spiked Mace, but the only place I can think of that has more than one is in the building where the Fire Demon lurks, and that's a hell of a trek to get back and forth multiple times.
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Hey, how do you guys deal with the framerate drops with Sif in DS1? I tried turning everything down in DSfix but it doesn't help.
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>>162720480
>no, your honor, it's okay that I killed all those people because other people do it all the time
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>>162720602
Crystal Sage bonfire. Quick run to the Evangelist by the fire. Kill her, bone out, repeat. I want to say that's the fastest in the game.
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>>162720602

I'm thinking the bonfire after Crystal Sage. It's not a long walk from the bonfire to the evangelist. I could also drop it for you if I have any extras, can't remember if I do.
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>>162720637

Have you enabled the framerate unlocker?
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>>162720602
>hell of a trek
Just homeward bone you shit.
>start at Road of Sac bonfire
>run through the mobs
>kill the 2 evangelists, go to the tower
>get down, kill patrolling evangelist
>go through the sewer to Dilapidated Bridge bonefire
>kill the evangelist at the overlook
>use bonfire to teleport back to Road of Sac
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>trying to farm heide set in ds2
who the fuck thought those drop rates were acceptable
is this some fucking mmo
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>>162720739
>>162720746

Dilapidated Bridge is faster. Just walk up through the building and kill the single hammer undead and there is an Evangelist on a perch right there.

Also super easy since the bonfire is literally a 5 foot drop below you. No homeward bone required.
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Unpopular opinion: I think soul memory works better for populating a server and when DS3 drops to DS2-levels of activity, it's going to be a lot more dead on the servers (more like DS1 is now) because of that, while DS2 is still going to be active.
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>>162720812
Ds2 droprates made me embrace CE
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>>162720858
is it safe to use 100% drop rate cheats?
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>>162720696
>equates someone giving an opinion or facts about a game they like to killing people

Slippy slope argument doesn't work, and even if it did, that would mean you would want the "liar police" to come arrest any youtuber who gave an opinion to the public that might benefit themselves.Grow up and move on, dude
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>>162720942
In my experience, yes. Though to be safe always be in offline mode if you're doing anything with CE.
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>>162720857
It fucks over low level invasions because you're always better off with going towards bigger numbers and you cann't kill time by grinding mobs while waiting for invades to go off because you'd just be burning off your souls while doing it.

I'd take "empty" servers over everyone getting shafted.

Hell, they could just remove wespon memery when the player pool starts dropping too low.
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>>162720979
analogues and exaggerations, anon. the point is that someone shouldn't be let off the hook because it's common
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>>162719682
Really? 6500? why
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>>162720857
your opinion is retarded
ds3 is built in such a way that a huge number of players in same level ranges with same upgrade level ranges end up in the same areas
no matter to what numbers it drops, it will always be more consistent in terms of activity than ds2 which can seriously fuck you over even for wanting to get a single farmable set
in fact, prior to DLC, at the lowest spectrum of activity DS3 ever saw, i still saw a good number of signs all around and during my dried finger runs i always had an invader in my world
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>>162720858
How DS2 drop rates work:

Each item has a rarity value, the game calculates a random amount +/- each time you kill an enemy.

If that amount is below your item discovery, you get that item. So if your item discovery is low, you basically NEVER get that drop unless there's a 0.1% chance that the modifier is that high.

But if you have ~100 item discovery you'll be getting drops left and right- just not the really good stuff.

And if you equip full item discovery (~200? I think) You get the good stuff frequently.

So if you equip the merchant hat and dragon crest shield (both available right away) and go through the game that way you'll get 80% of the important drops. The rest you need the serpent ring for.

It's not a percentage based thing. Killing an enemy 1000 times is less likely to get a drop than than killing them 10 times with full item discovery.
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Do invasions still happen in Ds3 at SL 200+?
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>>162721091
2000+ subscribers, all give like 5$ each, Twitch takes half of the cut so he gets 10000/2 which is 5000$.
In addition he has a 1500$/mo Patreon for the Poison Arrow podcast and donations on Twitch which Twitch doesn't tax as heavily as the money from subscriptions.
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>>162721070
I agree with that. He should be let off the hook because it's unimportant and minor.

Unimportant and minor lies just, also, happen to be common. They are similarly left unpunished, because freedom of speech is sort of important.
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when is all the dlc planned to be out by?
alternatively, when is the complete edition coming?
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>>162721225
Example: I farmed loyce souls with full item discovery and with friends being summoned. I got 50 of them in ~20 minutes.

Try to do the same with no item discovery (or doing it solo after you beat the king) and it takes an hour to get ONE LOYCE SOUL.
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>>162721286
Freedom of speech/freedom of consequence.
I don't think liars should be punished just for lying, but it also means a liar's word means shit in future product endorsements.
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>>162720942
i swap item ids in my inventory offline
still not banned after all this time
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>>162721354
DLC2 is "Early 2017".
As for the complete edition, I don't know. Probably in the summer or so.
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>>162721070
This.

>>162721286
>freedom of speech
Not the same as the freedom to say whatever you want without consequences.
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>>162721626
What exactly did he mislead people about the Bloodborne guide?
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>>162721626
>>162721429

Yeah, but him lying about DS2 didn't kill his kid. And suggesting that anything bad happening to him is a 'fair consequence' for that is ludicrous
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>>162721816
Bad shit happening to bad people is Karma and it is perfectly fair.

>>162721802
Just google it or ask in /bbg/ when they aren't dead if you want all the details.
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>>162721896
>guy lies about a video game
>his kid dies
>karma
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>>162721816
When did I say he "deserved" any of that? I dimply said that people have the right to be distrustful of him after finding out he lied. I'm unsympathetic towards him but not edgy enough to gloat over his personal problems because those events were unconnected to his shady business. If him lying would've cost him a lot of viewers and ad revenue from people watching his videos that would be a much more relevant way of his unethical actions backfiring.

>DS2 didn't kill his kid
Wait, his kid died?
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>>162722009
>guy cheats hundred or thousands of people out of their hard-earned money to enrich himself
>bad shit happens to him afterwards

Seems like karma to me. It's not like he two free samples when the sign said to take one or some shit.

>>162722084
>Wait, his kid died?
He is such a pathetic specimen of a man that they never came to term. His wife left him and took his living kid because he is a PoS.
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How do I kill someone with stacked poise and a demon spear?
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I have an idea and I'm just gonna ask if its possible instead of asking about stats and gear.

I was thinking a low level, preferably around 30-40 for maximum swamp/cathedral activity. A dickthief sort of build, something very BB-esque.

I was thinking using light armor and light, fast weapons, and maybe bows if I get the hang of them, never tried them out before.

tl;dr: Is a SL 30-40 thief/assassin PvP build effective? How?
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>>162721458
>>162720942
I think that the SOTFS ban checkers are more sophistocated than all the shadow bans going on in vanilla DS2. It seems to only affect discrepancies between SM and level, cheat weapons, and discrepancies between player A and player B's health and such on the server, since it already makes sure health is the same on both screens.
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>>162722160
I guess when you put it that way.

Karma =/= Justice, after all.
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>>162722296
ive tried a similar thing near release
its complete shit
if youre off by one level or a single weapon upgrade, you lose all activity
even at lv20 with a +2 wep i barely got any invasions off
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>ENB lied about muh Ds2!

You people are fucking delusional.

ENB didn't dislike Ds2, he specifically stated that he was going through a rough time during it(which turned out to be a bunch of crazy shit with his wife), and couldn't enjoy the game due to it. You can cry bullshit all you want but associating certain things with a negative experience is 100% a real thing.


But as far as your own personal feelings on Ds2, they're irrelevant. Lots of people very much did enjoy Ds2 more than 1. His initial impressions on the game were just that. I know you love your Ds2 is shit meme but the game was fine.
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>>162722296
>around 30-40 for maximum swamp/cathedral activity
don't upgrade weapons past +3, just a tip
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>>162722641
go ask him on twitch about ds2 see what face he makes
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>>162722641
thats the thing though
while he was writing his ds2 guide, i.e, before it came out, he said it was miles better than ds1
then as soon as it came out he did a 180 and said it was awful
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>>162722641
>>162722976
>>162723058
>caring about muh e-celebs
fucking pathetic
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>>162723182
Have to agree with this guy desu desu
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Doing an SL 1 run and am currently up to Cathedral of the Deep. I have 30 k Souls on me and nothing to spend them on. Any ideas? I don't want to waste all of this...
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what's the best shield to bash people with?
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>>162723826
consumables
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>>162723826
get dreamcatcher ashes and buy shards
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>>162722641
>he was going through rough time ehile playing it and that's why he couldn't enjoy it
That was Bloodborne.
I don't give a shit about him or him lying but it was bb not ds2

>>162723826
Carthus Rouge / other resins.
>30k
Is nothing
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>>162723058
>and said it was awful
Where?

>>162724375
You do realize shit happened before BB, right? It was during Ds2 and BB, those games are only a year apart.
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>>162723826
Just get past the Dancer on my 1SL. Good luck, anon. Spend them on Fashion Souls.
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>>162724610
Well like I said, I don't care all that much I wasn't disappoinnted by DS2 nor do I hate enb but the image that I reposted seemed to imply he was having issues with BB specifically due to the content.
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>>162705936
>doing pontiff duels when arena exist where it's literally impossible to chug
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>>162724610
his twitter
i dont have the screencaps on me but he said something along the lines of 'ds2 is very disappointing and not what i thought it would be' while 2 weeks prior he was praising it
i may be thinking of someone else though
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>>162724375
>y'all
>y'all
>y'all

Ugh...
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>>162724951
>ugh...
*cringes*
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>>162725072
>*cringes*
Fuck off
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Patch when?
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>>162725690
What am I seeing here?
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>>162725735
hes using the bloodlust glitch in the arena for whatever reason
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>>162725735

A glitch that needs to be patched.
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>>162725675
[points down]
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>>162726252
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>>162726252
>pointing down like you actually done something
get off it dude
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>>162726353

YOU GOT STABBED IN YO CHEST!
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>>162726252
What the fuck is your problem?
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>>162727217

Some people jus tryin to look badass on stream I guess
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>>162726252
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>>162727217
>>162727263
>>162727341

Why is Yukas such a thin-skinned clown?
He's been streaming since Demon's, right?
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>>162727961
He is just like the other typical idiots. They get popular, which makes them start believing their own hype, and they go full Icarus.
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>>162728089
Who do you consider the best Soulsborne content creators on Youtube/Twitch?
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Rate my fashion guise.
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>>162728282
I don't. The only one I even watch occasionally is DSP. I would rather stream snipe them than watch them stream.
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>>162727145

Why is parrying just so fucking satisfying in this game? Literally never gets old, especially against ganks. Like oh shit bitch your phantoms are dead, what're you gonna do? YOU'RE NEXT
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>>162728365
>tfw can't streamsnipe any of these scrubs because they refuse to play on PC using the excuse of "uhh uhhh... hackers!" even though people like iskys and jund do it and have no problems

Feels bad, man.
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>>162728345
8/10
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>>162728345
>Full plate all skin
>Yet head exposed
Dun goofed
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>>162728460
ENB's fight club for ds3 got fucked by a hacker causing him to end the stream so it's not a non-concern. Overall DS3 on pc is a shitwreck. I play on the 'Bone and while it's not the ideal platform it's better than DS3 on pc desu.
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>>162728847
in all seriousness at least for people who aren't big time streamers, hackers are really a non-concern on PC, and PC is better because of double the FPS.
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>tfw couldn't sleep at all last night because of fever delirium
I don't suppose there's enough people around to get an FC going? I need something to take my mind off this shit
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>>162728460
>tfw cant streamsnipe any of the soulbrandt idiots cause they don't even play souls games anymore
rofl
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>>162722641
Now that I think about it, did he get involved with the original version of DaS2 while working on the guide? The famous version they showed at E3 and ended up being butchered into what DaS2 is now?
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>>162728978
30 fps isn't an issue for me but Souls games have downright disgusting fps dips. But even if you have a beastly rig, I hear there are still issues.
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Best "poster boy" armor?
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>>162729401
I've got a pretty powerful PC but even while the games maintain a solid 60 fps the vast majority of the time it feels like there are some choppy dips, almost always during movement in larger empty areas.

It's annoying, but never comes up when it could actually have any influence on combat or something. Since it happens in all the dark souls games I just figure it's entirely due to the ports never being very good.
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>every invasion has been against some fag who skips through the level and teleports
I hate my 3rd world shitter internet.
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>>162729739
DELETE THIS
HUNTER IS MACABRE NOT CUTE
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>>162729739
Fluted will always be my favorite, probably the only 'knight' type set that I never get tired of seeing.

What even ended up being the Ds3 poster boy armor?
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spoop
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>>162729964
Gravelording is up there for the single biggest instance of wasted potential in this entire series
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>>162729802
The ports are shit but frane drops are real on the consoles too. Blighttown was named "fpstown" on all platforms for a reason.
Demon's goes to single digits sometimes especially in Stonefang when you kill the pillbugs.
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>>162728978
Hackers aren't a corncern if you don't go to 80 and above.
If you want to fight at those SLs, PS4 is superior, if you prefer low level PvP, the chances of finding hackers are so small you ought to use PC
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>>162730354

Exactly, and SL70 +8 and above is cancer anyways so it's a win/win. I invade at SL36 +4 and SL56 +6 and I love it, I also occasionally do SL20 +3 for fun troll builds but I don't play it that often.
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>>162729825
>lose an invasion to some guy with insane fucking lagg, uses a medium shield and spams R1 on his dark sword and takes effectively unpunishable sips because of the lagg, for some reason my hits go through him but he connects on me every time
>points down at me after that shitfest
>check his steam profile

Why am I not surprised?
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So what if ENB lied about DaS1 as well and you played a shit game all this time?
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>>162730735
Does this happen regardless of having cross-region matchmaking restricted turned on?
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what did they mean by this?

>>162730828

cross-region matchmaking is just the difference between japan and not japan, that's it.
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>>162730863
>nips get their own isolated island of little to no lag
It's not fair.
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>>162730863
Let it Die is much better than the Dark Souls series. How did FROM fuck up this much?
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>>162731078
The blood splashes in let it die look weird as fuck, I can't get used to it
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>>162731078
>much better than the Dark Souls series
>can't invade people
>actually no PvP whatsoever, you just sometimes fight AI-controlled versions of other players who died

You're a PvEfag aren't you?
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>>162729739
ds3's faraam
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>>162730863
>Yukas barely has a5th of Oro's viewers
jajajajajajaja
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>>162730828

Nope. Apparently blocking communication doesn't work either because I invaded this hacker like 4 times last night while trying to do crux woods SL36 +4 invasions.

Again: why am I not surprised?
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>>162731327
Friendly reminder that internet BRs are insufferable because they're all the spoiled, egotistical children of rich government lackeys in a socialist hellhole.
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>>162731308
he's like the telemundo of soulbrandt, kek
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>>162731398

Yeah I heard you saying that before, and whether that's true or not (I mean, it's probably true let's be honest here) it doesn't exactly make the situation any better knowing *why* they're insufferable cunts with shitty connections who often cheat.
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>>162731398
I always thought the vast majority of BRs that people encounter and behave in the stereotypical shit manner are the poor ones using public computers or computers brought about via government handouts
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>>162731398
Protip: most BRs don't actually put in their profiles they are BR
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>>162730863
lmao
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I'll start. This happened just the other day.
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>>162728282
Two Best Friends
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>>162731398
The "good" BRs wouldn't tell you they are BRs, because they don't want to be mixed with scum. Idiot.
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>>162728282
>Who do you consider the best Soulsborne content creators on Youtube/Twitch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18
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>>162731648
They aren't even souls content creators. Their playthrough of DaS2 was solid but their DaS3 one sucked because they let that balding ginger autist touch the controller.
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>>162731398
>>162731680

And the rest are proud of their country for whatever fucking reason. BR nationalism is fucking insanely over the top.
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>>162731716
Someone in here said that they were like level 40 in the undead settlement and had someone reading a walkthrough while playing the game "blind".
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Limit Breakers does good and interesting shit shit. Just wishing they're drop the gimmick voice more often.
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>>162729802
Define "powerful PC" because I have gtx970 and i5-4690k which is not even that powerful by today's mid/high end standards and it never drops frames.
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>>162731495
There's 2 sorts of them you'll find online. The type you're thinking of are the ones that shit up F2P games, mainly MMOs, take Tibia or Runescape which I think are the worst examples.
The ones shitting on paid games are usually the actual spoiled ones since hues are worth shit and there are additional taxes for games. Dark Souls, for instance, costs 160 hues (240 with season pass) which the poorfags can't afford.
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>>162731853
>160 hues
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE BR BR ?
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>>162731817
I've got a 980 ti and an i5-3570k. I could be wrong about the dropped frames though, I'm only judging it by what I interpret as a frame drop when things momentarily seem disjointed from the usual smoothness, rather than a proper fps display.
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>>162731795
Yeah it was a pretty shitty playthrough all around.
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What is the best spear to use at SL35 +4? Is it still gargoyle or would something like a raw 4 pronged plow be better?
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>>162731609
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>>162732193
Gargoyle might hurt your build because of its reqs. Play with resins and bundles would probably be best. There's also rotten Ghru
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>>162732193
For damage: heavy javelin
The reach is bad but it's the most stat-efficient spear by a longshot. Low-level gargoyle sucks because of low split damage and low level plow is mediocre due to being a scaling-focused quality weapon. They have reach, but reach is all they have.
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>>162732351
as someone who plays with a raw +4 plow it really isn't that bad, i wouldn't use it as a main weapon but it's great to switch to when running people down. it's like 184 AR and it's insanely long, it's the perfect low level spear.

javelin sucks because what matters for spears isn't damage so much as reach. 4PP has the best reach while having the lowest stat requirements and still decent damage while raw on top of being able to be buffed with bundles/resins. i usually have it as my 3rd weapon in invasions, i fight with a SS most of the time and have a weapon to switch to for parry ripostes, then my 3rd weapon is the plow for if they survive the riposte or sometimes for when dealing with greatsword users.
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>>162732545

Use a raw saint's bident instead. In return for only 10 less AR you get gargoyle FS-tier reach, the ability to buff, and it also looks sexy as fuck.
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>>162732916
>shitting on the farmer's weapon of choice

Bident is ugly as fuck
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How are you going to react to the inevitable Dark Souls 1 remaster when it is announced/released?
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>>162733194
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>run behind opponent
>he attacks infront of himself
>still get hit even if i'm almost 2m behind him now

this shit happenes way to often... just how far behind do hitboxes lag when you sprint?
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>>162733194
start shitting on it while praising DaS3 for being teh best gamu evar
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>>162733194
I will be praising le sun all day my dude
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>>162733194
Go to the undead burg and invade new players for the first few weeks
Fight Artorias to the glorious soundtrack
Start mirin Capra's physique
Exhaust Goughs dialogue 35 times
But most importantly, SLAUGHTER THE FILTHY PRISCILLA
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>>162733358
Lingering hitboxes were a mistake.
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Turns out farmer's plow is bretty gud at SL36 +4.
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>>162733358
It's not hitboxes, it's just genuine latency.
You were still in front of him on his screen because his client hadn't updated that "sprint around behind me" action yet, so he just hit the person standing in front of him.

The game syncs position through the connection, so any delay means that positions are also delayed. Your oponent doesn't have to hit where you are on your client, just where you are on his client, which can be well behind yours.

The way to deal with this is just to roll more. You can't take damage during your iframes no matter what, so it's the best answer to avoiding damage when there's notable latency.
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>found black knight halberd in ds2
>that horrifying generic moveset
What the fuck?
I thought DS2 is supposed to have a moveset variety yet 90% of weapons i saw so far are re-using moves like motherfuckers.
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>>162731767
>BR nationalism is fucking insanely over the top.
Do they deny pic related?
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>>162734252
Just one of the flaws of Ds2. There's almost no unique movesets save for stuff from the DLCs. The existing movesets do look a lot better animation-wise though.
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>>162734252
DaS2 does have moveset variety, but it's mainly because the game has a fucking massive total number of weapons. There's almost twice as many weapons as DaS3 and most of them use generic, copypasted movesets, but because there's so many, the small % that's actually unique ends up being a considerable number in total.

Most DaS1 weapons got the bum's rap in 2 because the effort went instead into other things.
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>>162734176
>that last frame doe
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>>162734512
>just like things related to 2 are treated like shit in 3, things related to 1 are treated like shit in 2
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>>162733358
your hurtbox is bonkers when you run. Roll instead.
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>never really play NG+ since I prefer to roll new characters and try different builds
>decide to try it out on my quality build longsword knight
>get to Iudex Gundyr
>expect to have to whack him for 5 minutes
>he's dead less than 30 seconds after I pull the coiled sword out of him

Is this a joke? I was expecting way harder than this.
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>>162717856
that's not hollowing is just bad model. hollows in ds2 are green
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>>162734217
i guess it's a mix of latency, lingering hitboxes and phantom range on weapons.
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NG+-NG+7 is weird. Early game is piss easy but the endgame is much harder than NG.
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>>162734702

A good katana/spear user know how to run in short bursts around in small circles while strafing the opponent to make their running attacks unpredictable. But yeah obviously you don't just take off in a dead heat running away without turning your camera to see if people are throwing/shooting shit at you.
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>>162733194

>Dark Souls 1
>without framerate locked at 30
>with functional multiplayer
>missing and incomplete parts finished
>return of the Raging Fucktard

I'd buy it.
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Hi, so im playing a sorcerer in ds2 and was wondering if there are any low str/dex requirement melee weapons I can use as a substitute for my staff when facing mobs with high magic resistance. Something that I can infuse with magic/dark or already has scaling with int/fth (primarily int) so that the damage isn't complete shit
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>>162734176

You know, I usually make fun of spear users but honestly this is a lot more fun and effective than I was expecting it to be.
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>>162733194
remaster is not the same as remake, at best it will be just dark souls with more internal resolution and that's all.
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>>162734934
To be honest, their running attack are unpredictable because they're fast. Not obviously and blatantly telegraphic your actions is like the most basic of the basic shit in multiplayer videogames. It's just that fighting katana WD spam relies heavily on them being predictable because you can't do anything on reaction except dodge and hope your reflex arc was shorter than 11 frames

It's the same reason that being close to a curved sword is so scary. The time between first visible startup frame and active frame is so short that even reacting quickly enough to dodge can be difficult. You keep your distance so your opponent is forced to telegraph themselves by approaching, because otherwise they have absolute control over the fight. Katana WD spam is even easier to use since it closes so much distance you don't have to need to approach. You just need to be sprinting, but with DaS3's shitty stamina balance, you can just sprint in circles for like 30 seconds with total impunity and initiate your 11-frame 400 damage thrust completely at your leisure. There's no need to telegraph your action by sprinting because you can just be always sprinting
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>>162735262
>farmer
>crossbow
>full suit of armor
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>>162735087
>with removed toggle escapes but remaining infinite stunlock system
>with unnerfed poise
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>>162735262

Spears:

1. Are swung nearly as fast as straight swords.
2. Have as much range as the bigger greatweapons.
3. Have retarded phantom hitboxes.
4. Cost a relatively low amount of stamina to swing.
5. Can be swung from behind a shield.

If spears activated poise, no one would use anything else.
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>>162735434
You forgot that they have the 2nd best running attack in the game and arbitrarily do 50% more damage in a trade.
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>>162734852
>hollows in DS2 are green,
Only the player character and Vendrick(?). Look at the hollow soldiers in Fofg. They're brown.
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>>162735420

It's just a joke about the plow, man. Take your medication or something.
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>>162735262
>make fun of spear users
never fought a competent spear user huh
this class in ds3 is almost as bullshit as in ds1 and that says something
>tfw DLC 2 will add demon's spear or some brand new spear that will outclass existing ones like millwood axe did with other axes
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>>162735427

Infinite stunlock was fine with the old Poise system.
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>>162735434
to be fair they're generally considered to be ez parries because of their incredibly one dimensional moveset and the ability to parry them on reaction. the biggest problem for spear users is that people 9 times out of 10 unzip the caestus in response.

to be fair OP has the right idea with the offhand xbow, or really any offhand weapon to use alongside the spear to make it less predictable and expand its moveset in some way.
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>>162735507

That two.

I wish I wasn't such a stickler for looks because I'd use spears all the time otherwise. Alas, I don't feel manly if my weapon doesn't weigh as much as a small car.
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>>162735662
>ez parries
i always laugh while either bs punishing those fuckfaces, doing kick-r1, running r2, doing shield poke or just delaying r1 a little
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>>162735584
Millwood axe was only added because they thought it would be better to give the class one ridiculously strong option rather than making any of its existing options strong.

More weapon classes will get that treatment in the 2nd DLC, but only the ones that are currently genuinely bad.

I expect a dagger with some ridiculous passive ability in the next DLC and 300 AR
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>>162735537
anyway, his face is not even in decomposition, and it's not brown either.
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>>162735686
>I don't feel manly if my weapon doesn't weigh as much as a small car
PAGING DOCTOR FREUD
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>>162704558
Literally boobs for eyes
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>invade someone
>they go hide in the bonfire waitng for blue
>a few moments later invade them again and this time there's another red
>he's still hiding but not ganking

If you do a dried finger run, at least know how to not act like a pussy
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>>162735776

D-DON'T MAKE FUN OF ME!
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>>162735420
>>162735539

Also don't act like I won't do some invasions in full fucking worker's garb because I will. I fucking will.

If offhand crossbow isn't okay though, what is? I need a 2nd weapon to pair with the spear, preferably something that has a horizontal attack. Would a raw battle axe in the offhand be okay? I mean probably not a SS but axes can be used for chopping wood so I think it would make sense.
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>>162735823
What did you do?
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>>162735916
I've been a bad boy
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>>162735823

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWbwVDgyTuc
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>>162735087
FINISHED IZALITH WHEN?!
RETURN OF DRAGON WEAPONS WHEN?!
DARKWRAITHS THAT WERE ACTUALLY SPOOKY WHEN YOU FIRST MET THEM WHEN?!
JAR'EEL WHEN?!
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What's the best way to play /dsg/? And why is it as a knight who uses straight swords, medium shields and armor along with manly miracles such as force and lightning spear.
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>>162736118
>straightswords
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>162736118
>miracles
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>>162735087
>>162736053

>not wanting a DeS remaster with 6th Archstone
>DaSI babbies
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>>162736118
It's actually full STR build with millwood axe and millwood set
Don't remember how much longsword faggots i've crushed with bully charge
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>>162735823
rekt
i'm afraid to be invaded by a hacker and get banned though
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>>162736208

I'd settle for a PC port of DeS.
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I never understood what's up with the eclipse at the end, where can I read up about that
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>>162736319
the world itself goes hollow nigga
you've reached the ragnarok
it's no rocket science
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how the hell do i kill the soul of cinder?
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>>162736319

>filename
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>>162736394
i kind of thought of that, but it's just a random coincidence?
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>>162736401
Hit him till he dies
Don't get hit
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>>162735913
crossbow is the weapon of choice for peasants/commonfolk so it's ok. now go and btfo some K***hts.
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>>162736401
git gud
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>>162736442
so it's just a pretty and dramatic coincidence?
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>>162736582
alrighty, getting some lunch now but expect webms later
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>>162736631

No.
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>>162736447
entire point of ds3 is that you're witnessing the end of last cycle
all roles are reversed, humans lock gods in cathedrals and feed them alive to other humans, royal family is trying to play in gods with eugenics to prolong the miserable existence, serpents become angels
sun gets reversed to its hollow state as well because first flame can't be really kindled anymore
that's why letting the flame rest and just sleep while hugging firekeeper till the world can naturally reset itself is the best ending
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>>162736118

The objectively best way to play is with an offhand parry tool, BTFO'ing scrublords and their buttbuddy phantoms on the regular.
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>>162736208
>implying they'd fix L2 spamming or anything that ruined the pvp
>implying they'd put anything interest in the 6th instead of just visually amplifying what they already got.
Would like to see a remastered Latria and Boletaria though
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>>162736294
this is not possible anymore unless you pick up some extremely hacked item like longsword +99
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>>162736807
i got that ending on my 1st play, but what you're saying doesn't explain the eclipse
the world gets fucked every eclipse then?
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>>162737112
i'm pretty sure this is the first time first flame's power got so low even the sun, its own reflection, became hollow
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>>162731609
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>>162737071

....and? You'd think they'd do anything else for a DaS remaster?
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For SL 60, can I still use chain nd be at 27 vig if it means 40 dex?
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>>162737678

You can do whatever you want, buddy.
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>>162737416
Getting a chance to finish something they had already started? Yes
Adding a completely new archstone? With new weapons npcs and etc to go along? No
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>>162737351
>going out in a literal blaze of glory

Immolation was the fucking best, it should have been the Demon king hammer's WA since they daren't bring back anything from DaS2 explicitly.
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>>162737747

>6th Archstone
>completely new
>he doesn't know
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>>162736208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKs6k_rB95Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeEXAyYY0-s
>tfw northern limit as paid dlc
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As someone who gives zero shits about PvP,

DaS1 > BB > DeS > DaS3 >>> DaS2
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>>162718138
If you're telling me you died to Oceiros I'm going to cringe
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>playing ds1 2nd time and just entered oolacile after skipping/missing it the first time
>spooky as fuck deep rumbling sound near the holes in the first forest

i'm scared of what's ahead
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>>162737976
Rape
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>>162729401
They're console games, not PC games. From software has never made a PC game, just ported the Xbox version of their games to windows, there's minimal optimization going on, so most of their games run like dogshit even on good hardware.
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>>162737976
Abyss
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>>162729739
DS1 Elite Knight.

DS2 Elite Knight also, if the stats weren't shit.
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>>162737743
Please, I jsut want to know if the boost I get from 40 dex is worth it for +6 sharp weapons
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>>162737747
>completely new

>>162737976
>das1 without mods: 20 fps, 720p looking awful, everything is blurry at distance, lost izalith exists.
>still better than des and bb
what
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>>162730231
>>162729802
>>162731817
>>162731963

Most of the armored core games have at least 1 mission where it just runs under 20 fps. It doesn't matter how good console is, or how good your computer is, or how you emulate it, the game just has one area or weapon or section that is just -bad-. From Software doesn't do quality control on these things, if they develop an area and find out that it lags like shit (Blighttown, Sif, Demon Ruins, Gutter, etc.) as long as it's 'playable' it passes.
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>>162738135

idk man fucking test it out yourself, you're an adult make your own decisions. here:

http://trogg.net/DS3Calc/
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3
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>>162722160
Yo tripfag try not to trip on the edge you are making there.
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Which game has the worst R2's in the series?
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>>162733194
>>162735323
>more internal resolution

nah.

The most likely scenario is that it's a "portable" version for the Switch and people's laptops. From doesn't want to pander to people who already bought the game, they want to bring the game to people who never played it.

If anything, the idea of putting money into a "remaster" with all the old DS1 fans coming back to play again, invade again, meme again, etc. probably makes Miyazaki want to throw up.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>162738521
>From doesn't want to pander to people who already bought the game, they want to bring the game to people who never played it.
>what is dark souls 2 soft
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>>162735910
Drangleic and Vengarl's armor are my warning signs for when someone wants to R1 spam, because they're always accompanied by a Katana or a greatsword.
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>>162738575
>"""Soul"""brandt
>none of them play souls games
what did they mean by this?
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>>162737860
No I don't know, so please tell me
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>>162734252
>I thought DS2 is supposed to have a moveset variety
you thought wrong, it has "weapon" variety, in the sense that it has many different appearances/skins for the same weapons. it's great for fashion but lacks in gameplay. the most "unique" movesets (barring the supreme and unsurpassed in the series BONEFIST) consist of standard moves of several different classes instead of actually unique moves
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>>162738619
Dark souls 2 was literally designed not to pander to DS1 fans. That's why the changed all the invasion and poise mechanics and gave it a completely new setting and lore.

90% of their design changes are just trying to distance themselves from negative reactions to the previous game, whether that's DS2 and DS1 or DS3 and DS2.

When (if) they re-release DS1, it's not going to be a fanservice high end remake. It's going to be a quick port designed to be ran on limited hardware so that small laptops and the Nintendo Switch can get in on the action.
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>there was a guy in fromsoft that created all that shit
>gave it some character with church and fountain
>you can only see it from great distance and one side
thx omega team
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>>162735259
Anyone?
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>>162738976
>>162734252
>>162734385
>>162734512

DS2 has a large pool of practical movesets, and then gives each weapon a few from each. It's customization in the sense that you can swap weapons to fine-tune your very attack style.

So basically EVERY weapon in the game varies from another weapon by its stats or one or two moves, but never both. This was done intentionally so that players could tweak their builds by deciding between Mirrah or Claymore, and Bastard Sword and Mastodon sword, or Drakekeeper Sword and Zweihander.

DS3 is the game with the most fancy moves, but DS2 is the one with the most useful and practical moves.
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>>162739183
>>162735259
You can use any of the basic weapons, like Rapiers. Just get your Str and Dex up to around 15 each and 75% of the small weapons (straight swords, rapiers, axes, etc.) will be available to you.

Then make sure you infuse them when you get the chance so that they scale off your INT stat.

Rapiers in particular are good because even though they have low AR, their moveset modifiers multiply damage more (1.27x vs 1.2x) and they have high counter damage (1.4x vs 1.1x) compare to heavier weapons. So they do ~30% more damage than their AR will indicate.
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>>162738892

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/unused-content
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>>162738756

i hope they enjoy the short burst of viewers for like a week or two before the game dies off completely because it's shit and there's no pvp, they're just trying to take advantage of the hype of a new game.

honestly seems like they're all doing that, even oro was playing hearthstone for a week or two after the new cardset released, jund (not soulbrandt but still a big souls streamer) is playing pokemon now, etc.

they're grasping for anything atm it's pretty sad. i don't watch them but i follow them so i can check on their viewer counts, i remember seeing oro streaming dead by daylight for awhile with less than 200 viewers. i love it.
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>>162739675
They're screwed because DaS3's pvp is about as deep as a puddle and pissed on everything that made DaS2's pvp streamworthy.

It's nice to see them get their comeuppance, but at what cost?
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PC FC?
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>>162739801
BF?!?!?!??!??!?!?
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>>162735259
Heide knight sword / spear is excellent for Fth, not so much for Int.

There's blue flame, but you won't get that until later.

Power stanced rapiers (8 str 18 dex) is generally the ideal low level melee choice. You get insane DPS that way.

2H bastard sword does decent damage at 14/11.

Longsword or estoc are probably the best moveset weapons early on.

Battle axe does great damage without any scaling.
Also, keep in mind that enemies that have magic defense generally have very poor fire or lightning defense. The only enemies that have high elemental resistances overall are found in the DLC. You might be better off investing in some Fth and using lightning, pyromancy, or hexes against enemies with high magic defense. Almost nothing in the game has high dark defense, it's the most reliable damage type.
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>>162739756
I like it because it's a consequence of the game being more polished and with less unintentional depth.
Hopefully duelfags take the hint and move their cancer on to another developer so maybe next game will be more like BB and not even allow regular duels
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>>162739503
>their moveset modifiers multiply damage more (1.27x vs 1.2x)
What is this? Haven't heard of this before
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>>162739934
From Software will just make another game dedicated to multiplayer, like they did with ACV.
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>>162739756

I like it this way in all honesty. I've been checking out smaller-time streamers like camobear recently and it's a lot of fun when there are 50 or less viewers, the chat isn't cancer and it feels more like you're just hanging out with your buddies. Try to get in on co-op invading too although it's rare for it to work out, but I've probably co-op'd with him like 6 or 7 times now (and we won each time). People need to stop looking at DaS3 like a street fighter game or something and appreciate how fun the asymmetric combat can be.
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>>162736053
>>162736208
I want a finished and well done DaS 2 without soul memory
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>>162739675
>shitbrandt will stream let it die
>then move to for honor
what's next on the horizon?
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>>162739675
>>162739756
Bamco has been giving them a platform as well, giving them early access to shill stuff etc., whereas they had none of that with BB. Considering that's done after this DLC I guess they are trying to secure their streaming job, idk. Seems like the people that make souls work as a stream thing are more speedrunners, challenge runners or people like Marcus.

Is content creation for Dark Souls 3 a thing? I know Scott makes videos, but it seems less so than for the previous games - Or maybe I just don't know about it, idk.
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>>162739801
>>162739905
BFs are dead, FCs are dead, your favorite host is shit and cancer
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>>162740076

Suicide, hopefully.
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>>162740102
Kadokawa probably won't give them shit like Bamco did.

Also, Lobos is pretty successful Soulsborne streamer still.
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>>162740102
>Seems like the people that make souls work as a stream thing are more speedrunners, challenge runners or people like Marcus.

I still will never understand the speedrunning thing, doing the PvE over and over and over.

Invasions are the most interesting and unique part of souls games. idk why you'd watch anything else other than invasion streamers. That said I'm also to the point in the game where literally all I do is invade or speedrun the game to set up my invaders at different SL's.
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>>162739934
DaS3 is not polished mechanically.
There's less depth because there's less polish, because no effort went into balancing rolls over just "make the player feel stronk" and nobody bothered to give 90% of the R2s or WAs any use at all.

DaS3 pvp is shit for the same its pve is shit. You functionally have two buttons, R1 and roll, and both are brainlessly easy to use and strong enough to carry you without any effort.

BB had all of these same issues, as well. That's part of what makes the glaring flaws of this game so galling.
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>>162739560
>spell
>Change into Black Ghost (Ghosts N/A)
a moundmaker's wet dream
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>>162739979
In DS2, your AR doesn't change based on your attack. It stays the same, the different moves just multiply the post-defense damage.


A Claymore's 1H R2 does 1.2x damage, a Rapier does 1.27x damage. Different weapon classes vary, and unique (twinkling or boss) weapons have slightly higher usually. (Black knight sword is 1.25)

So against the same defense and with the same AR, the rapier will always do a little more damage than the claymore.

Counter modifiers work the same way, 140 = 1.4x post-defense multiplier. Same for most buffs.
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>>162740425
>not watching people finishing the game in minutes when it took you many hours to complete
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>>162739934
>more like BB
even more dodge mashing? No thanks.
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>>162740486
Didn't BB also have the tacked on phantom range on weapons to make the game feel more 'satisfying'? I'm not talking about latency and shit, just the actual functional range on weapons.
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>>162740310
Kadokawa isn't a publisher. They own the company, they are not publishing their games. Kadokawa doesn't have a distribution network in the US and From will still have to rely on Bandai/Ubisoft/Sony for publishing their titles.

Kadokawa isn't going to make a publishing deal for a company they already own... it makes no sense, it would always be profitable for them to just have From self-publish in Japan and rely on Bandai internationally, which is exactly what they've been doing since 2010.
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>>162740425
Why watch someone invade instead of doing it yourself? At least speedrunners pull off crazy tricks that the average player can't do without investing similar amounts of time and autism. It's not really all that hard to use a red eye orb.
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>>162740870
>>162740425

I sort of agree with this. Watching other people invade is boring to me, unless they're using some crazy build and pushing the mechanics/limits. I'd rather watch a speed or challenge run where they figure out stuff I never knew existed in the game or had never thought of.
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>>162740486
No anon, it's more polished because the way the game is supposed to work is how it actually works, unlike the rest of the series.
From never wanted to make it deep.
DeS, DaS and DaS 2 aren't supposed to be deep and nearly all of their supposed "depth" comes from poor coding on From's part. Things they didn't want in the series.
3 and BB are games with a PvP that actually play how From intended, they are the true face of Souls PvP and the sooner people realise that, the more resources from has, the less competitive and deep the PvP will be, the sooner these people will move on and shit other games
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>>162740782
Yes. Saws had double their visual range because Fromsoft felt that the high-DPS crutch weapon designed to let players mindlessly mash through the game needed to also invalidate any concerns of positioning, spacing, timing or reach.

Not every weapon was like that but all of the ones meant to handhold the player were. The funny part is that you'd get shit where a weapon has terrible reach and a hitbox that doesn't even extend the full length of the weapon, but also is slower and does less damage than the saw. Fromsoft really just didn't give a fuck about making even half of the content in the game worthwhile
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>>162740268
Well that would be something, but I remembered that the Surge is coming out in 2017 too, so that's another shit for them to chew on.
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>>162740753

Yes. Not watching them. Why would I, that's boring as fuck.

Besides you say that like taking hours to finish the game is a bad thing. I took my time and enjoyed the fuck out of it, I didn't try to skip everything the first time I played but purposefully immersed myself and checked out every nook and cranny of every level, blind. I got to fully experience all of the content.
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>>162740870
i watch krazy but it's not the invasions, it's the trolling. he trolls just as well in coop
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>>162741505
>not having fun watching people completely dissect games, using bugs and glitches to their advantage
well, you can stay in your cave, we'll have a good time without you
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>>162735734

trying to get into spear gameplay myself here, could you elaborate on this? it's like every time i try to fight someone and they pull out the caestus i don't know what to do, like in invasions it's not like i do a lot of damage per attack so they have a lot of chances to parry me, they dont seem like they need to parry spam either. if i just run at them trying to backstab i often get r1 spammed in the face and eat a bunch of damage.

is it a shield? is that what im lacking to deal with parrying against my spear?
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DON'T FORGET, IN A FEW HOURS FROM NOW
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>>162742109
>2-3 hrs
>during my working hours
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Dragonslayer Armor is underrated
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>>162742109
>>162742258

>tfw during my sleeping hours
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>>162735686
how do you deal with ganks with a spear? just run into mobs and pray?
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>>162735780
And pussy for mouth
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>>162742258
>>162742320
I'm sorry anons
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>>162741932

i use the ember heal glitch and bloodlust glitch to my advantage in invasions, does that count? i don't stream tho, im just saying i like those things but only when applied to actual pvp, i like finding ways to beat the worst gankers because the system favors gankers so much that it allows invaders to push the system as far as possible to be able to win against those odds
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>>162707249

Maybe because invaders have less health AND estus than the host you fucking inbreed homosexual
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I sure do love Morne's armor. Shame the helmet looks kind of shitty though.
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>>162742109
Will Nana be there?
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>hollow build
>put 30 in luck
>hollow stat at 99
>should get 40 luck total for each hollow weapon equipped
>i only have 39
what am i missing?
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>>162742635
fill both slots (left and right hand) with +10 hollow items
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>>162742625
She was there the last time people came to a FC of mine, but it was a while ago
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>>162742635
Both weapons need to be slapped to get +10
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>>162742109
FC = fight club

PC = ???

BF = ???
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>>162742792
Oh.. they have to be +10? I didn't know that, thx.
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>>162742575

>straight sword + shield
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>>162742109
Hi! few things to start off with :)
1.Yes I replied to you because you're a female souls fan, 'tis an awesome thing to see!
2.I'm Brian.
3.Don't be intimidated, but I'm not a stereotypical guy. If anything, I'll be the one in the kitchen :D
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>>162742575
You look like molten shit tho
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>>162742945
obvious b8. made me reply/10
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>>162742970
I've always hated that effect, is there a way to remove it while still remaining embered?
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>>162742849
PERSONAL COMPUTER FIGHT CLUB BEST FRIEND
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>>162742575
Regenerator build was only fun for me in ds2, maybe because I only need one spell instead of gimping myself without using dedicated ring, weapon, time to cast spell and shield to pull it off.
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I finally got arouns playing the DLC
what is so OP about the follower sabre? I have it at +5 refined and it's just okay
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>>162742109

>no pd

I'm not coming.
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>>162742945
I recognise that xbox message
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>>162743206
Funny in french pd means faggot/gay
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Are there any places to get reliable PvP in DS2 outside of the Iron Keep Bridge and Brotherhood of Blood arena?
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>>162743324
Just realised I didn't put ","
Way more readable like this :
Funny, in french pd means faggot/gay
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>>162742109
Bad host, don't go
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>>162744327
PCFCBFBHDG
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>>162743184
Regen builds in DS2 are better than in DS3, but only on paper. When you realise that highest possible amount of HP and damage values in DS2 are much higher than in DS3, those 14HP/sec won't look so good.
That's why sun princess ring and blessed offhands are much more viable than whatever natural regen equipment you can stack in DS2, too.
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>>162744713
This, basically.
Players on average had like 1k more HP than 3, and you also had weapons that could do 1600 damage combos. This really made regen less worthwhile.
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>>162740486
>and nobody bothered to give 90% of the R2s or WAs any use at all.

I'm triggered by this.

People say that Dark Souls 3 is only R1, but they forget how it was in Dark Souls 1, where R2s in all but a few weapons were absolutely terrible... remember BK weapon R2s? Chaos Blade R2? In PvP it was all R1 and backstab, only a few weapons were different like Claymore which had usable R2 combos. In Dark Souls 3 you can do well with only R1s, it's true (and this is a PvP flaw) but the R2s are generally usable and in several weapons like straightswords they're very good. Weapon arts are also underrated, and not that many of them are completely unusable, while there are some great ones that see much use even among really good players.

Dark Souls 2 probably had the best R2s out of all the Souls games, because they followed the same 2 hit combo rule as the R1s, but Dark Souls 3 is not that far behind.

People forget but having fights among very top tier players boiling down to basic stuff has always been a flaw of Souls games as a whole. In Dark Souls 1, it was backstab tech, in Dark Souls 3 it's R1 spacing, in Bloodborne it was spam of whatever was the best move your weapon had. Blade of Mercy / Arcane Wheel roll attacks, Saw Spear R1 and transform attacks, etc. Dark Souls 2 is again the game with more variety in its meta play, but if Dark Souls 1 has more depth because of all the BS tech. Dark Souls 3 is neither the deepest nor the most varied, but in my own opinion it's the most fun. What does it for me is the fun movesets of most weapon classes and the overal feel of the movement and pace of the PvP.

Thanks to anyone that took the time to read this wall of text, even if you don't agree
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>>162744713
I only need replenish life but still dish out good damage on a faith build compared to ds3 when you stick with a regen build, there aren't many options for you to dish out damage since miracles suck ass.
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So is it possible to play a ranged weapon build? I want to play like a huntsman build. Axes and bow. But bows look like they're shit and the ammo cap hurts
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What weapon should i use ? Still got two rings slots empty, what do ?
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Check it my dudes, does anyone know if the second attack of the valorheart, the one where he slaps them with his shield. Does that have parry frames?
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>>162744975
A typical regen build in DS3 is a simple melee with 15 FAI. Very easy to set up, you don't need to be a cleric, you can even get by without Anri's Sword and it will be extremely efficient, way more than any regen equipment stack you could do in DS2.

I'm going through DS2 right now and i'm baffled at how horrible the ring of restoration is even though on paper it gives the same numbers as in DS3. Meanwhile in DS3 it can passively heal any chip damage done to me and considerably cut the amount of flasks i'm using, and that's without regen offhands.
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>>162745092
Lightning Clutch ring and use LKGS buffed with gold pine resin
RoF for more stamina
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>>162745212
no, god
why would it ever have that you fucking idiot
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>>162745212
No sadly. Of the 3 R1 attacks, the first and third block, the second is just damage.
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>Curved greatswords in DS3 will never be as good as they were in the previous games
>tfw no Gravelord GS
>tfw no Curved Dragon GS
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>>162745337
It would be pretty cool
>>162745406
It just occurred to me because I blocked an arrow with it anon
SO the second attack does block
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>>162744995
Bows have alright damage, You're not going to go through the ammo cap that easily, trust me. You're best off going dex though, but you can make your axe sharp so it scales with dex.
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>>162745412
>DaS2
>a wide variety of parry tools are viable, up to and including curved greatswords, but require different time and are capable of different setups
>DaS3
>blessed cestus
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>>162744902
I agree. The only thing DS3 did right was the movements felt natural. It wasn't clunky like DS1 and had comparable flow like DS2 but BB's quick pace combat doesn't suit Dark Souls where it's passive reactiveness is it's core philosophy. They should've focused on improving DS1's engine/format while keeping the improvements from experimenting with DS2; instead of blindly putting in what worked in other games in one package especially games outside of it's IP like BB and Demon's.
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>>162745412
DaS3 not only has the worst Murakumo, but it also has the worst Zweihander in the series.

Trash game.
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>>162745412
>you will never inflict toxic with a stylish r2 poke
How do you feel anon?
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>>162745654
DaS1 Murakumo > DaS 3 > DaS 2
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>>162745412
>>162745654

>DS3 curved gs aren't unparryable when 2handed

Trash game
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>>162744902
>>162745579

COMPLETELY agree.

DS2 is not flashy. It is not fancy, there are very few unique movesets and the weapons only vary by little precise tweaked amounts, except for the unique and DLC weapons (example: Drakeblood is the only GS that gets the tracking 2H roll but also has a 1H thrust)

BUT

It has the most versatile, practical, useful, and diverse PvP movesets of any game.

A good dual wielding build can throw out 6-7 solid moves.

And the few dominant strategies (min-maxing with buffed katanas) are never so dominant that better movesets are worth it, unlike DS1 with backstabs.
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>>162745990

DaS 3 > DaS2 Murakumo

Your opinion is objetively shit
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>>162746025
>UGS weight and speed
>greatsword damage
>FUCKING PARRIABLE
how could memezaki think this shit is acceptable
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>>162745412
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>>162746176
I wonder if curved greatswords were a heavy part of JP meta or something, and so they nerfed them for their response over there, despite not being used here in the US.
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How do I look, anon?

...A-am I pretty?
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>>162746304
Average
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>>162746418
Well as a peasant I suppose that's ideal, isn't it? :^)
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>>162745990
goddamn you have trash taste
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>>162739091
there's a texture with the top view of the city
that's the city where thomas lived by the way
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>>162746526
>>162746138

I never liked how the Dark Souls 2 Murakumo felt. I remember getting the Arced Sword in my first playthrough and I was so disappointed with the moveset. Curved GS weren't bad in PvP, but they weren't fun to use unless you were in love with the meme parries. Dark Souls 3 Curved GS have bad R2s but they feel nice to use, their running attack is awesome, and the WA is good. The most fun Curved GS is the Old Wolf one though, the Murakumo loses its throne to it. They're also not bad in PvP, even if shitters think they are. They're decent.
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So whats the deal with players escaping from an ugs 2hit? It sometimes happens where other times it doesn't.
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What's this bloodlust glitch I keep hearing about?
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>>162746526
Deadangle kumo is godly for killing shitters
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Daily reminder that if you gank and use a seed you're basically saying to the world "I'm a little baby that can never handle losing, please don't invade me I'm scared and gonna cry"

Don't be surprised when everyone is crystaling out.
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>>162747216
>They're also not bad in PvP, even if shitters think they are.
The shitters are the people losing to it - Which fair enough, makes up the largest demographic of people who play this game. Curved GS have nothing outside their running R1.

>>162747290
all I do is kumo in das1, my gripe was more with putting das3's kumo over das2's - das1 is still the best the weapon's every been

das1 kumo >>> das2 kumo > das3 kumo
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>Shield WA glitch CGS
What the fuck do I do? The moment I get close I get instamemed and when I attack with shieldpiercing weapons I get instatraded which I of course lose.
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>>162747497
Don't be fucking retarded because there is no reason to do it with the CCS?
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>>162745412
I have haven't used a curved greatsword since Nito's in DSI. What would you recommend using for DS3 or is it not even worth it?
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>>162747553
Can you read?
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>>162747690
Can you? Allow me to rephrase

"Don't be fucking retarded. They gain no advantage by doing the WA glitch so the only reason you cannot fight it is because you are being retarded."
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>>162747497
wait till the patch fixes this shit.
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>>162747497
Bait it. The CGS WA is incredibly punishable. At close range it can be reliably rollBSed, and at a distance it's a free pair of R1s.

It also costs like 135 stamina to execute
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>>162746304

These fucking le epik random trole faces stopped being funny about 5 years ago my man
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>>162747216
>Dark Souls 3 Curved GS have bad R2s
Their R2s have very fast HA startup. I use them a lot, much more than CGS r2s back in DS2.
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>>162747497

Use it too
Use fire surge
Point down until they get mad and play offensively

>>162747868

They gain the advantage of skipping half an hour of a startup. When they use it they should sometimes only pretend that they want to use the WA though because otherwise it's too easy to avoid.
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>>162747868
>Carthus Curved Greatsword WA
>no advantage
ok
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>be bored of DaS3 PvP
>go into For Honor technical test
>get matched against Oroboro

Fug.
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>>162748312
How is For Honor? So many Souls players are planning to jump ship to it. The new beta apparently is under NDA and can't be streamed.
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>>162748312
>getting free wins

I too would be mad
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>>162746304
>kill host's phantom
>he runs around and summons him again
>kill phantom again
>chase down host
>this happens

Farmer build too OP? Welp
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>>162747216
The problem is that there were too few curved greatswords in the game to really distinguish them from anything else. Curved Nil and Curved Dragon greatswords were the only viable ones, really. Nil had its Ng+ damage boost (565 AR in NG+9 40/40) as well as some unique spin attacks.

Curved dragon is the heaviest-hitting weapon that can 2-hit combo (the 2H R1s are really fast) and it has the wind attack (which can be aimed with the binoculars).

Arced and Murakumo could have been redeemed if they had counter modifiers to make up for the lack of strength scaling, like Katanas did.

40/40 Arced Sword: 386 damage (vs 500 def with critical)
40/40 Berserker Blade: 387 damage (vs 500 def with critical)

The increase in base damage doesn't make up for the loss in critical damage, and then they get nothing to make up for the lack of thrust, slow attack and lower range.
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>>162748514
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>>162748643
And by 'viable' I mean that it's fucked you need to be in NG+9 to use Curved Nil effectively and Curved Dragon is a bait/exploit weapon.

They're about on-par with greataxes in DS2 pvp.
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>>162748740
Thank you for this.
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>>162748430
It's pretty fun but I'm shit at it. I keep treating it like Souls PvP, spamming dodges and neglecting the directional blocking mechanic.
And yeah, the current test has watermarks of your username and e-mail address all over the screen so people won't post screenshots or stream it. Beta in January though.
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>>162748836
>>162748740

>Make a peasant build in DS2
>use pickaxe
>use a leo ring I found by the quarry
>nobleman laugh, try to R2 me with their Claymore
>2HR2 with my pickaxe
>600 damage
>170 counter modifier
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>>162747632

Carthus for the bleed or Old Wolf for the WA

Murakumo is shit and Exile too since it has the exact ssame moveset and weights a shit ton for just a little more damage
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>>162746554
where did you get that image?
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>>162749121

Wouldn't greatswords fuck me though in DaS3, poise-wise? I mean I'm only wearing the worker set shit, makes it kinda hard to trade with those assholes.

Part of me wants to try duel wielding my plow with offhand pickaxe though, I mean it gets the HA even 1 handed and I need a way to fuck up ganks.
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>>162749368
It's harder on invasions when you're pressured by a gank, but the Plow isn't bad at fighting greatswords because you can space them with your superior range once you get used to the length of your weapon.
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>>162749121
>>162749368

Actually since pickaxe works better with heavy and heavy plow isn't that far off in damage from refined I might just turn it into a 27 str build, hmmmm...
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>>162749368
I have no idea, I haven't played DS3 yet.

In DS2 counter is still useful because you can trade damage. I don't know if you get HA with the pickaxe in DS2, but because of the way the netcode works, your hit will still connect even if you are interrupted on their screen, as long as they threw out their attack after your attack connected on your screen, so you still get the counter bonus even if you trade.
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>>162749368
pickaxe is real close range though, and very slow onehanded
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>>162749285
I have all the textures of demon's souls( i could not find moonlight texture though)
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>>162749602
>>162749586
Also, pickaxes do thrust damage but have strike movesets.
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>>162749698
Why are you posting Kamineko
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>>162749273
Thanks, time to farm that wolf grass I guess.
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>>162704558
I really couldn't take this enemy seriously until I got cursed by it. Then I feared it until I cleared out the depths.

Am I the only one that likes Straid a lot in DS2? The dude is hilarious. "Feeble cursed one! Do you really think you can handle my spells?"
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>trying to invade in ds2
>at least half of hosts uses npc summons packing insane damage and having at least 5k hp
How this shit is better than DS3?
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>>162749580
Yeah I'm mostly in the process of figuring out how to deal with ganks right now. If all else fails I'll fall back on deep dagger hornet ripostes. Main problem with the plow is it does a lot less damage as a raw +4 than a greatsword, even at refined 27/20 2 handed it's like 50 more AR at 236. Hard to do better than that at SL36 even with stat rings like chain and knight's ring.

It's just rough in general when dealing with people who always unzip the caestus immediately when they see the spear, like what do you even do you're not a greatsword that punishes the fuck out of people with it's 2-hit combo that does a million damage if they mess up the parry.

>>162749602
I'll play around with it at least,
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PICTURE OF THE XANTHOUS CHESTPIECE BEFORE THE ASHES OF ARIANDEL PATCH CAME OUT!?
I SUSPECT KIKERY
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Am I a dick for joining the rat covenant? It's like griefing to hell.
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>>162750296
But they get summoned to your world and lose nothing if they die.
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>>162749978

It also has the gimmick of both pontiff eyes already built in
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>>162750229
Should be on the wiki, I doubt wikidot have bothered updating their images since release.
What do you think changed?
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What's the best class for SL36 twinking?
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>>162750621
kys
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>>162750525
Thanks, so it really has been there the entire time
Nothing changed apparently I just never noticed the white lump on his left shoulder
I knew his entire left glove was fucked up but I had just recently noticed the shoulder lump and it just seems so prominent now that I should've noticed it a long time ago
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DLC when
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>>162729924
Literally the final bosses armor
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>>162750675
Thanks, I guess warrior is the best after all.
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>>162750925
Wait another year for 2 hours of gameplay
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I heard somewhere that the gravetender greatwolf gets his max hp reduced each time you beat him during the encounters in the levels, is this true?
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>>162751298
yes but it's not much hp
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>>162750621
probably warrior it always depends on the build
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>>162751298
Yes.
It's pretty trivial though.
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>>162742109
PANCAKE FIGHT CLUB NOW
HIGH WALL
PASS IS dsg
PC OF COURSE
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>>162751425
>followers saber
>doesn't have onyx blade buff

Into the trash it goes
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>>162751425
>sabre
>baguette
>pyro

Do not attend
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>>162751425
>frog
0/10 made me reply
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>>162751380
I was thinking about going something like raw great club / astora straight sword +4 with prisoner's chain and dumping all my stats into vig/end/vit
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>>162742109
You have nice handwriting
plz be bf
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>>162751570
>>162751575
Saber was only for the screenshot, I never used it because it quickly became a shitter weapon. A slab was wasted.

WE NEED MORE BF, I MEAN PEOPLE
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>>162752119
BAD
HOST
DO
NOT
GO
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>>162750925

March.

Come back in 4 months.
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>>162751931
great club is probably better heavy, unless you plan on only 2handing
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Pls don't cheat
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>>162752361
>summoning hackers

Just stop hosting
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>>162752361
Made me kek. I came to see who was hosting.

>>162752529
If you honestly think I'm malicious then you listen to jojoposter too much.
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>>162752613
Dude you're chill enough but using the WA hacks in an FC is so fucking un-fun to play against, Vincent bitching doesn't change that
>>
Storm Curved is kinda ass.
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>>162752289
sauce?
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>>162753301

Myself.

My guess is the first 2 weeks of March.
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stop bullying the host
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>>162753591
Stop being a bad host
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Any PS4fags wanna help me with aldrich?
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I sortof just want the second DLC to hit so this game can be 'wrapped up' at this point.
>>
who is the host
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>>162752361

>he summons cheaters that are known for using hacks in PvP
>he also keeps summoning lagging 3rd-world retards that are known for their trash connections

Yeah, I'm not joining.
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>>162753691
Who are any of us?
>>
>try to do fun meme cosplay invasions at a low level
>get stomped by hosts who are faggots and abuse the system to the max with their SL420 downscaled buttbuddies

Why does this game continue seeking to destroy all faith I could possibly have in humanity, morality, and justice?

Why do I still feel bad when some random anon says "HURR DURR YOU USED A CURVED SWORD UR A FEGIT" like it's easy NIGGA THESE ASSHOLES ARE SUMMONING 3 PHANTOMS AND RESUMMONING THEM WHEN THEY DIE AND THEN THEY HAVE SEED AND WAY OF THE BLUE

FUCK YOU IM GONNA DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MURDER THESE ASSHOLES I SWEAR ON ME MUM IM FUCKING DONE TRYING TO BE NICE AND CUTE WITH THIS SHIT. YOU'RE DEAD, GANKERS.

D E A D.
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>>162753970
>humanity, morality, and justice
Its a video game, do you have autism or something?

> fun meme cosplay invasions

Oh nevermind
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>>162752697
Nah you know what really isn't so fucking un-fun to play against? People lagging like crazy using spears and katana forward + R1
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>>162753297
It can combo R1-WA at close range to do comparable damage to the high-tier CS. It's also as long as the carthus.

Really, curved swords don't need to deal any damage to be good. As long as they have reach and speed, they'll hardcounter half of the weapons in the game regardless. Their damage just increases the margin for error.
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>>162753970
just pull out the good ol' cursed washing pole
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>>162753970
DaS3 invasions are mostly the same in terms of what you invade - Predominately ganks and coopers. Low level invasions are only "easy" and favoured by shitters (ctrl+f, "SL36") due to it being the only place where you can at worst be on equal footing with what you face or better IF you twink.

Just resin your DSA and melt the scaled phantoms.
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>>162754304
>>162752697

Double checked, and he's from fucking japan and the host is from france.

What even is connection quality?
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>invade
>target was destroyed instantly appears
o u t p l a y e d
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>>162752119
>summoning guy from moon with prongs
kek
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>>162753970

>using a curved sword in invasions
>at low level nonetheless

you have no idea how this works. stop complaining.
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Guys I finally maxed out my character in Dark Souls II (SL 838) Since it came out and I just need some general opinions.

What is the best PVE build maxed out?
And for PVE?
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>>162754470
kid, get absolutely
S H A T O N
H
A
T

O
N
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>>162754448
The place where the host is from doesn't really matter.

>host has a menu in French
>he's from France

Nice job, Sherlock
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>>162752361
>>162754448

Host. I love meeting new people hosting and new people to fight against, but this is just awful to try to fight against. ESPECIALLY because he's just using forward R1 spears and katanas.

>>162754541
He knows what's up.

>>162755009
>we all knew he was french and from france from the beginning
I was pointing out the fact that this guy in the webm is from japan.
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>>162738371
what are you on about now?
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What are good ways to deal with great shield + fast weapon if you have an ultra greatsword/hammer?
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>>162755305
bsc. alternatively, swing less than you can and feint passivity to make them think you're low stam.
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>>162755141
>that ending
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>>162755461
It's even worse. That was actually GOOD connection for this guy. I literally just watched him teleport around, t pose, pull out a greatbow, MISS COMPLETELY, and hit a guy
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>>162755141
Christ that thrust attack looks stylish

I think that I would enjoy watching DS3 battles more than I would ever enjoy actually fighting in them.
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>>162755141
I won't summon him anymore once he's gone, I have to admit he's extra laggy
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>>162755560
Well, one time I got summoned by our french host this guy didn't even have a model. Nothing, null empty space lock on. Pretty good stuff.
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Dragonfags need to be purged from this general

We are going to go into Constantinople and purge the dragonfags

We will kill the sympathizers and BF posters and Aleksandra
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>>162755984
No
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>>162755984
got a plan there sport?
just saying you're going to kill them is a bit vauge
I'm all for cleaning the place up but you need some definitive action planned
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>>162751425
>>162752119

Forgive me host, for I will sin if this jap stays. THIS IS HIS FUCKING ROLLS. I'm not even trying to fight this guy I'm just trying to figure out what in the hell he is thinking.

>>162755797
thanks famalam. I like your artwork on your steam page btw. Good skills.
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>>162756538
I got him. Good fight ranmar!
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Sorry laggy friend, you're too laggy

>>162756538
Thanks <3, currently working on some DaS porn
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>>162756538
inb4 BR posing as jap
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>>162756414
>we don't need a plan
>we just need a slogan
>"make dark souls great again"
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>>162756898
I'm BR and we had lag.
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lewd
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>>162757524
anon, this is a christian board, you can't be showing such profanities!
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need someone good with CE to figure out how to make me teleport. it's for a katana build
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Does Patches drop the Catarina set if you kill him in the Cathedral?
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>>162757804
i think you buy it with his asses
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>>162757753
*teleports behind you*
*slashes you to pieces*
"heh heh. nothing personnel kid"
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Seems like I can't summon anyone now, everytime I try I get the message "unable to summon phantom"

>>162757524
L-lewd
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>>162757804
He does but it's better to just dupe boss soul if you can't afford it, because patches sells some good shit in firelink.
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>>162758480
If it still doesn't work in 5mn I'll kill myself then try to summon again
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>>162748514
>farmer
>military crossbow
>advanced miracle
>resin made out from pure humanity
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>>162757897
*teleports behind you*
*backstabs*
*firestorms*
heh...nothin personal kid
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>>162758480
>>162758672
guess moonman's uncle worked in fromsoft and banned your motherboard
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>>162757753
If you explain what you mean by just teleporting I can help. Teleport to where?
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>>162759021
behind you

i dont actually play on PC i was just memeing
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>>162758981
He's a big meanie face
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Is there a way to use old savedata with a family share account?
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>>162754416

Well that's what I mean, of course if you're invading regardless of level you should be bringing stuff designed to handle being heavily outnumbered. The host just has too many advantages by miyazaki's design, because he just wanted the money of all of the normies who buy the game for $60, play through it once, and then never touch it again.

What bothers me is that normie noobies still get fucking destroyed by gank spankers, they probably don't even know these advantages exist and can be abused in the first place. The only people these advantages are basically assholes who did their research and are purposefully abusing a broken system.

I guess my point in short is people shouldn't get mad when invaders "twink" or "play unfairly", because the system isn't fair in the first place and HEAVILY favors the host. Invaders should get a fucking medal for the shit they have to go through and put up with, any gank defeated should get a fucking parade, that's how bullshit they can be.

So yeah, I'll be going back to my Raw ASS and offhand blesstus/xbow and deep dagger and hornet ring, with my VIG gouging and my tears of denial and my twink rings, tyvm. If anyone here wants to give me shit about that, know that I'm just going to laugh at you and I'm imaging every host and phantom I kill and point down at is just as mad as you.

Like I said, I'm done fucking around.
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>be playing Demon's Souls
>Valley of Defilement Area 2
>after getting past the vast swamp, gremlins who spit poison clouds chase after me
>in one of their poison clouds, an NPC is apparently sitting
>I only discover this NPC because she is now hostile to me due to being poisoned by the enemy clouds
>I never even gotto speak to this old woman once
I appreciate Demon's Souls for what it is, but it is such a jank ass game that I unironically feel its the worst in the series, compared to the rest.
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>people STILL advertising/joining fc's

really nigga?
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even now ds2's netcode continues to amaze me
i don't remember a single other souls game where every fucking second pvp opponent had this degree of delayed damage or other connection-related issues like enormous phantom range giving rapiers a range of longest spears
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>>162759563
>"I can't have fun in this game anymore so you aren't allowed to!"

Good meme.
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>>162756723
>DaS porn
porn of who?
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>>162759187
this better be ruse
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>>162759589
Then why do you keep playing that garbage?
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>>162759864
He's a jap
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>>162759972
>has a wall of text on profile written in english
I have hard time believing you
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>>162759864
It was. He was just messing around.
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>>162760175
I know he's bullshitting, but he's a goofy dude with bad internet
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I claim jap for fcbf
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So wtf happened here, when I got the notification "Depression went back into his world" everyone was gone without any notifications

>>162759663
Gwyndolin and futa Ciaran, but it's pretty shitty
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>>162760325
>Pic
Day after day, love turns gray, like the skin of a dying man.

Don't worry, grey skin aside it's a very cute character
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>>162759936
because i haven't touched it in a year and want to refresh my memory though generally it's as uninspired as i remember it
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>>162760493
he started hollowing after hunting bloodshades
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'Local Knight drops his entire fucking Arsenal'
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CE wizards pls help
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>>162760278
i'm better than any of you ;)
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>>162761012
>lag monster is an edgelord

Like pottery
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can someone explain why i sometimes get stuck inside the arena? i cant do anything except alt+f4.
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>>162761118
You can kill yourself with the pillar as well
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>>162760882
>tfw dark man was kind
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>>162761098
>tfw I have a thing for laggy edgelords
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>>162760796
Sounds like he needs someone to help him retain his humanity. Hopefully he finds someone like that...
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>>162761427
You'll love Vincent
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>>162761470
who's to say i dont already
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>>162759589
As long as player's have low ping and consistent ping, it's fine. DS2 falls apart when one player's internet is significantly better than the other person's though.

You're playing against lagging players, or your internet is trash when you see stuff like this. 99.9% of my matches have <300ms lag.
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>>162761427
will you show me ?
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>>162761236
i tried that, nothing happened not even the "YOU DIED" message, i could only look around at the spot where i died.
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Herald Set is really fucking neat.
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To Aerthas, the CE wizard, what kind of fun thing can you do with CE ? Would it be possible to spawn bosses at a FC ? This kind of shit
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>>162760510
what SM are you at? I wanna invade.
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>>162761725
herald chest is the best
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>this is what fcs have come to
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>>162761802
I can't spawn bosses when other people are hosting, but if I host I can move the boss of the area to us and even control it.
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>>162761820
>amazing chest ahead
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>>162761928
hahehehhheehhhhhhhhhhh
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>>162759589
Seems like the usual to me desu
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>>162761858
>come to
>implying this is new
Shitposting is inseparable from generals
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>>162761805
this is around 600k sm but it's really not terribly active, way worse than i remember it
lack of full red eye orb still fucking baffles me
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>>162761858
Volute2 is my favorite FCS.
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>>162762138
I want ACfags to leave
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>still playing shit souls 3
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>>162762138
>not Wide and Shallow
Into the trash it goes.
>>
fug sorry depression
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>>162762252
>>162762138
>Volute2 is wider than Wide and shallow if you use dual rifles, which have actual accuracy, unlike MGs

WS weapons suck anyway after AC3, no ammo (handguns) or no accuracy.

We all know dual rifles with EO is the way to go
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>>162761820
I'm using the set on my 9 vigor Sorc.

It's a perfect fit
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>>162762012
we posting shit connection webms?
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>>162761914
That would be fun
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>>162762102
PvP isn't active until the 1m soul memory mark anyway. I'm not sure if people do bell keeper anymore though, it's almost entirely iron keep or brother of blood
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>>162762635
>it's almost entirely iron keep or brother of blood
to hell with this, i hate duelfaggots
not like i will stay in ds2 though
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>>162762740
Oh, so you don't like PvP, you just like ganking, got it.
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>>162762819
I don't like what you FGC rejects are calling "pvp" which is a poor imitation of actual competitive games.
The only valuable piece of dark souls pvp is random invasions and DS2 limits me with this at every fucking corner.
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>>162762102
>600k
>luna bell keeper

There's your problem

Bell keeper covenant is for invading new inexperienced players, none of them are going to have anywhere close to 600k soul memory, maybe at Belfry Sol but not Luna. Even after killing the lost sinner your max SM is going to be ~200k or less unless you've been farming souls.

It's like trying to use the cat covenant ring at SL80+. All you're going get are fledglings who just happen to be passing through the area on the way to oolacile.
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>>162762012
>>162762536

I'm down. This is all I've got though, anything else I'd have to dig through all of my recordings to find.
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>>162763039
I agree that invasions are very fun, but to say that they're the only valuable part of DS2's multiplayer is terrible.

If you don't think dark soul's multiplayer is anywhere near 'actual competitive games' then go play some actual competitive games.

You're trying to use a system built exclusively to gank inexperienced new players in a game where -there are no new inexperienced players anymore- because it's 2 years old.

That's why if you want to invade in DS1 you have to go to Oolacile instead of trying to do cat covenant or using cracked orbs around random areas.Organized PvP doesn't get less active as a game gets older. Matchmaking does.
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>>162763237
I wish I recorded my encounter with korean gankers

3 teleporting curved greatswords in havels
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>>162743038
>b8
>when it's word for word a well known meme picture

>>162742945
10/10
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>>162761605
My daddy told us not be ashamed of our .webms, especially when we've got such good resolutions on them
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>>162718138
Just damage him until he starts his "muh ocelooooot!" phase, then get him stuck on the tree roots when he charges and shoot him with a (cross)bow. Ez pz, it's what I do with my SL <30 +2 builds.
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>dragonfags
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>>162764008
>when you realize that lifehunt scythe combos into wolnr R1
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>>162763235
>Bell keeper covenant is for invading new inexperienced players
i was there since 100k
nothing changed
more activity in sol, still nowhere nearly enough as when ds2 was active
and one of my main invaders in vanilla ds2 was on 700k while getting invasions with extreme frequency in bell locations back in days
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>watching enb bb stream
>he picks up red jelly
>first time ever regret not having a twitch account
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>>162761579
I'll pass, no thank you
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>>162763581
>That's why if you want to invade in DS1 you have to go to Oolacile instead of trying to do cat covenant or using cracked orbs around random areas
DS1 feels extremely alive with connection fix actually.
And there's almost exclusively newfriends.
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>>162764360

not worth it for something the nazi mods would immediately ban you for.
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>swing GS
>miss, he's too far
>he swings his without moving, in the same spot
>hits me

fuck this game
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>>162764551
all swings got a momentum that makes your character step a little forward, your momentum and his were just enough so he could hit you
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>being this mad
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So what's the most endurance and vigor I should aim for SL 120? These are my stats right now.
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>>162764368
come on now
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Returning to DS3 soon and want to start a new build. What's a good SL to hit so I can avoid SL120 40/40 cancer? I'd rather pvp at a lower range so there's actually some variety
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>>162764783
the most is 50 vig and 40 end
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>>162764921
What?

We don't play waifu simulators
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>>162764858
No thanks
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>>162764921
I just saw this in vitagen. Did I miss some kind of memo
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>>162765008
>>162765053
Ignore him. Once again it's someone trying to start a war on /feg/ by shitposting in other generals to make /feg/ look bad.
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>>162764406
>abusing bugs
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>>162765004
Right. I'll rephrase then. Should I go for vig or end till SL120?
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>>162733194
Only if they also include a new DLC.
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KILL THE DRAGONS
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>>162750384
>>162750296

The proper way to ratbro is to get Acid Mist and a fuckton of Corrosive Urns and fuck the guy's gear up while using the enemies as your bodyguards.

Too many ratbros just kill the target which isn't all that funny.
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>>162765038
>>162765201
Quiet victor.
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>>162764921
are you a /fag/?
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>>162765201
Got my sunlight spear at 60 faith ready.
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>>162765303
>>162765096
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>>162765256
who?
>>
Nutella a cute!
>>
How do I get unbanned?
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>>162765004
39 vig rest in end
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>>162737805
>use immolation during a rat covenant summon
>very close fight
>the person manages to get a lagstab on me
>before I actually take any damage from that, the immolation damage kills them
outskilled
>>
>tfw just dug out me mum's old chicken noodle soup recipe
>fever delirium finally going down
>headache gone
That's the good stuff.
Anyone down for an FC? I can host darkmoon tomb
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>>162765696
>darkmeme tomb
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>>162765696
You are banned, we already have a better FC host
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>>162763039
If you want to invade, go by the SM rewards from bosses:

SM from bosses only at Lost Sinner, minus belfry gargoyles:
151000 (Your SM to invade at this level: 70,000 to 179,999)

SM from bosses before you reach Iron Keep: 243,000 (Your SM to invade at this level: 130,000 to 279,999)

SM from bosses once reaching Drangleic
467000 (your SM to invade: 270,000 to 499,999)

SM from bosses after clearing drangleic:
603000 (your SM to invade: 350,000 to 699,999)

SM from bosses after acquiring giant souls and beating Vendrick (+100,000 for giant farming)
1183000 (your SM to invade: 700,000 to 1,199,999)

SM from bosses after clearing DLC and darklurker:
2,364999 (your SM to invade: 1,400,000 to 2,499,999)

Add maybe 10% to each number

Anything above 3M SM is NG+ or duel territory.

So if you're at 600k SM, you should be invading around Castle Drangleic.
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>>162765515
T-thank you
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>>162765906
it's not a problem of where to invade but with what
i don't intend to waste time on farming red eye orbs nor do i want to waste my time on arena
lack of full eye orb kills invasions in this game for me even more than a myriad of other problems like fucking nearly invincible npc summons in every location almost every time i'm invading
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>>162765785

POST YOUR PCPDBF's
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>>162766147
You're supposed to duel in the arena to get red eye orbs, or farm soul memory for them. If you don't like fighting players on even ground, then you don't get the ability to invade. Simple as that.
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>>162766372
>You're supposed to duel in the arena to get red eye orbs
exactly why i think ds2 is awful for random invasions
spare me the "even ground" bullshit, faggot, at anything save for SL150+/-5 i'm only going to be matched to SL666 estoc turtles there
that's on top of how i hate FGC rejects that arena contains
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>>162766147
If you wanted to fight players, you would be fine farming orbs by winning in the arena. You don't want to fight players, you want to gank. You want to invade unprepared players and curb stomp them, just admit it and then admit that dark souls isn't for you anymore.
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>fagets
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>>162766147
>lack of full eye orb kills invasions in this game for me
Nigga just use save backups and stop caring about progress towards dumb auras.
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>>162766812
I think you mean qts
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>>162739264
Bloodborne is the game with the most fancy moves though
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>>162766784
>you want to gank
invading is not ganking
actually, i'm the one being ganked in majority of situations given how ludicrous the SOTFS is with npc summons
>You want to invade unprepared players
just like i want to get invaded myself while being unprepared because this is where the fun is
tough fucking luck though, i'm not going to get any of those situations because ds2 is a game for dueling fgc rejects
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>>162767005
They also tend to be the most practical too.
>>
>ultranigger hardswaps to ccs and longsword after being hit twice by eleonora
>unzip crowknife and poke him to death while popping bundles every now and then

lmao
>>
>>162767005
BB's moves are mostly edgy as fuck
like that one bloodletter trick move that literally uses your insides to form a blood greatmace
ds3 has a lot of deliberately fancy moves like rapier stance or friede's combos or anything black knight-related
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>>162766784
But it is.
Look at the non Namco game that came after 2.
New players are protected from invaders, yet if you want to invade them, you are still able to and make full use of advantages.
Meanwhile, duelfag cancer has to hop through dozens of loops to even play their dumb minigame.

Now with From free from them, you'll be treated like shit in the following games, as you rightfully deserve, while invaders, coopers and regular players are given decent tools to do what they want.

Souls isn't for people like you and now we won't have to pretend anymore
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>>162767256
>swing twice with CCS for shit and giggles
>use +5 raw astora straight sword
ekksdee
how about you write about the time you got destroyed by 2kat tho kek
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>>162767403
i miss the time when bb's online was active
there was some top tier bully material
>>
>>162767512
I was using KB+M because my controller died tbhthofam
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>>162767684
I gave you handicap of not using rouge with 2kat and ya still blew it
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>>162767764
II keep forgetting that sprint is on my mouse, I'll never be able to play das3 using a controller yet somehow I beat das2 four times with it
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>host and 2 phantoms vs. a single invader
>they stand there in front of the bonfire
>literally refuse to leave as if they expect me to just straight-up 1v3 them in a place where they can also immediately re-summon if anyone dies

>I just patches squat near the first set of mobs
>literally wait in there for like 5 minutes

Holy fucking shit what is wrong with people?
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>>162768058
>not just running away, pulling out your millwood greatbow and bombarding them with assplosions
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>>162766551
You're an idiot if you think SL150 is going to pair you up with SL600+.

>SL 150 = 2m, max level you will fight: 180 (3m)
>SL 250 = 12m, max level you will fight: 280 (~20m)

So shut the fuck up, you don't know what you're talking about.

To invade someone at SL666 you need at least 20m SM. Stop at SL 250 and you will never reach that unless you refuse to back up your save and deliberately farm souls to upgrade equipment.

You're an idiot. Anywhere under SL250 and the largest soul level difference you will ever see is ~20 levels or less.
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>>162768183

The fucked up thing is that you'll at best land that once. We're talking the cathedral here (with no shortcuts open).
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>>162760398
link pls
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>>162768289
invade at the rafters and the whole place becomes a shooting gallery
>>
Anyone want to help a guy out with Pontiff Sulyvahn? Platform is PS4 and SL is 42.
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>>162767403
I like invading, I'm just not delusional like you into thinking it's the only reason to play multiplayer or as if DS2's invasion mechanic is 'broken' because there are no full orbs.

You're posting shitty opinions that aren't based in the reality of the game, stop.
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>>162768269
>anything save for SL150+/-5
learn to read
also sm has no effect on arena faggot, it tries to match you with closest available level then widens the search so anything but an sl150 circlejerk is going to face max level players
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>>162767005
Wasn't counting BB, but that seems like a combo of fancy and practical. Too bad it's PS4 exclusive
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>>162766812
>>162766978
<3

>>162768312
>>>/aco/1036421
Mines are meh, but that's something
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>>162768479
Why not lay down a red sign soapstone, then walk away from the game while waiting to be summoned so you can waste more time shittalking a game you don't even know how to play, maybe even jerk your dick raw over how much you hate dueling? That would be the best of both worlds.
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>>162768370

That's not my style, though it's fine if it's yours. I'm also not stated for it. I'm just saying if you're already in the situation where you're in the beginning of the level and they flat out refuse to leave despite having a huge numbers advantage, like they're THAT afraid, seems so absurd to me lol.

I'll keep it in mind though, like if I leave completely and they don't see me around when they tread out they might actually progress through the level. Millwood greatbow gets the 1.5x str bonus from 2 handing right? If so seems like I can just put 1 point into strength and throw on knight's ring and have enough str to use it, if so I might fall back on that strategy if people are being assholes.
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>>162768797
spare me your garbage advices
better learn the game rules first because apparently i know them better than you
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>>162768468
4 games have full orbs or a similar functioning item, one of which even has 2 of them.
DaS 2 is the one game in the series where "paying" for the online interactions wastes this much of a time.
Even for the equivalent in the other games, such as if you want to gravelord, farm humanity to summon or get some insight, are things that don't lose as much of my time as 2 would, since it's something you need to keep doing constantly
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damn avalanche did you eat your router mid fight?
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>>162768636
goddamn degenerates
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Man, going back to DS3 and facing bosses after DS2 is such a treat.
>those anime as fuck transformations and mid-battle tone shifts
>cool and diverse movesets instead of endless 3 hit combos ending with overheads every fucking ds2 humanoid boss has
>fast pace of battles
>godly ost compared to like 3 fine pieces DS2 had
Also holy fuck even Oceiros got quite an OST.
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>>162769084
>similar functioning items
Like the red sign soapstone? Or Rat king covenant ring? Or Bell keeper ring?

DS2 only makes you play if you want to gank players or do the chasm. You get free consentual invasions, free duels, free bell keeper invasions, and free rat king invasions.
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>>162704857
PAINTER IS NOT FOR LEWD!!

DELET
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>>162769519
The bosses were the biggest missed opportunity of DS2, most disappointing part of the game
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>>162769551
Unlike all the other games that had full orbs. And it makes you pay for both orbs, even the blue one, which would make you only face players who wanted this sort of PvP, doesn't exist in 2.
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>>162769519
>come back to ds2
>die to dragonrider
>uninstall
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>>162769519
>instead of endless 3 hit combos
Uhh. Have you played DaS3? I mean sure, some of them go for like 12 hit combos instead.
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>>162769560

i'm going to commit a crime
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>>162769726
>dying to dragonrider
how
i've killed that guy with a fucking non-seal bare fists 2 days ago
it's impossible to lose to him
>>
How's the weather on the moon?
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>>162769949
That's what you get for using a SS >:)
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>>162769519
>anime as fuck transformations
I'm only kinda into anime, but I know what you mean and I love it.
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>>162769364
I don't know why it's happening.
I'm testing my connection and it says it's totally normal, but inside the FC things are playing out like dialup.

If I get summoned again and it's still like this, I'm just gonna take a break.
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>>162769893
Roll invu frames in DaS2 are fucking awkward if you're med-weight, felt like fucking dsp and almost yelled "but I rolled" after he killed me mid roll with that swing attack.
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I don't even know how I got this lucky
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>>162769893
>>162770152

If you raise all the platforms you can actually die pretty easily, since he still hits hard with his sweeping attacks. It's actually better to just leave the platforms down so he falls off the edge.
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>>162769949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgqiSBxvdws
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>>162770152
Reminder to do less rolling and do more backstepping/sprinting unless you have very high Agility.
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>>162770152
you don't need to roll against dragonrider
or majority of ds2 bosses in fact
they all have the same enormous blind spot on their back so you can just strafe around them and hit it while they are doing another 3-hit combo
>>
My game freezes whenever I kill an enemy in the wall where Stray Demon is

Really epic game
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>>162769949

Holy shit

All these PCFC retards are fucking poor 3rd-worlders

It all makes sense now
>>
>>162770161
I got my copy two years ago around this time of year. It's awesome. Congrats anon.
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>kill darkmoon
>look up profile
>achievement progress: 41/43

Every time
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>>162770042
Damn, I knew it! Should've brought my epik dank sword or le estoc they are so OP!!
>>
I need some good anti-turtle weapons on my 19 endurance faith build

help
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>>162770582
literally anything lighting infused
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>I've been trying to get coven awards for a week now
>If everyone who dcd hadn't, I'd have been able to fucking progress several NGs already

Being a completionist in DS is hell. Is there even any penalty to dc? Sometimes this shit drives me up the wall.
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>>162770525
Please no bully anon, they are trying their best
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>Firekeeper Celes has invaded
>realize after ~5 missed swings he's not hostile
>rush entire swamp area with him following me
>casts warmth at designated occasions
>leaves before I can drop him a humanity, the least he deserves

Still not getting boring
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>>162769949
is the high wall a good spot for pvp? I'd assume so because of all the players on NG+ right?
>>
>>162770808
>Is there even any penalty to dc
in arena it's a loss for the one who left and a draw for the winner.
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>>162770808
You get penalty after too many ALT+F4's and have to use the way of white shit to get back online.
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>>162770582

gee I don't know man
>>
>tfw no Fume Sword
>tfw no Blue Flame
>tfw no Puzzling Stone Sword
>tfw no Drakeeper Sword
>tfw no Loyce Greatsword
>tfw no Mastodon Greatsword
>tfw no Thorned Greatsword
>tfw no Watcher Greatsword
>tfw no Defender Greatsword

Shit game
>tfw no Drakewing Ultra Greatsword
>tfw no Smelter Sword
>tfw no Ivory King Ultra Greatsword
>tfw no Warped Sword
>tfw no Manikin Sabre
>tfw no Curved Dragon Greatsword
>tfw no Bewitched Alonne Sword
>tfw no Curved Twinblade
>tfw no Stone Twinblade
>tfw no Drakeeper Greataxe
>tfw no Sacred Chime Hammer
>tfw no Sanctum Mace
>tfw no Bone Fist
>tfw no Yorgh Spear
>tfw no Gargoyle Bident
>tfw no Santier Spear
>tfw no Mastodon Halberd
>tfw no Old Whip
>tfw no Sanctum Crossbow
>tfw no Sanctum Repeating Crossbow
>tfw no Watcher Shield
>tfw no Phoenix Parma
>tfw no Drakeeper Shield
>tfw no Defender Shield
>tfw no Loyce Shield
>tfw no Drakeeper Greatshield
>tfw no Reeve and Orma Greatshields
>tfw no King's Mirror
>tfw no Rebel Greatshield
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>>162770984
I meant for normal invasions. I got to hgold in arena and stopped. I hardly do it now because if it isn't the 2 cunts who spam magic, it's that one ass who spams magic-straightsword. Also, why wouldn't they just include a minor reward system like previously? Or do they think having functional PvP is supposed to be the reward?
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>>162770152
My go-top in DaS2 is to level up ADP at the cost of everything else at the start.

Dragon raper is pretty manageable as long as you aren't rolling with base or near base ADP.
>>
Reminder that Firekeeper is the only level up girl loyal to you by her own free will and willing to go as far for you as betraying the entire world for you.
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FC still on?
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>>162771579
Bonfire is still better.
>>
what build should i make to use lothric knight spear?
additionally, is it viable at low levels?
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>>162771579
>levels up with Irina instead
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>>162771579
>DeS
>can just level up with the shitty level up girl without skipping her dialogue
>DaS
>perfect level up system
>DaS 2
>can kill level up girl but it inflates SM so you put up with her shit dialogue
>BB
>can silence level up girl after first meeting and it's such a good idea even speedrunners do it
>DaS 3
>can get a quiter and faster level up girl but she's located so far away you still wait time with this useless one

For what is worth, I kill her every time
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FC seems to be ded
Anyone else willing to come ?
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>12 Weapons with fire damage
>6 Weapons that do lightning damage
>9 Weapons that do magic daage
>1 Weapon that does dark magic
This next DLC better be nothing but dark damage and hex spells.
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>>162772407
>worse damage type has plenty of weapons
>best type has very few ones

What's the issue?
>>
>>162772454
What are you talking about?
>>
are the warden twinblades viable?
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>>162771992
Level up exclusively with yoel. 5 levels per ng, use the well. Scorn wenches, acquire souls
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>>162772510
Fire damage is the worst elemental damage. Dark damage is the best
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>>162772407
>that one weapon is the longest greatsword in the entire franchise with earlier HA frames, r1l2 true combo and no useless poke on roll
can't say that darkfags are discriminated, really
>>
New thread?
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>>162772649
>>162772649
>>162772649
New Thread
>>162772649
>>162772649
>>162772649
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>>162772583
lighting is worse
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>>162772612
Nigga do you really think that one GS is worth the variety of the 12 other weapons? You're biased as shit.

>>162772583
How so?
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>>162772510
Fire and lightning are most commonly resisted by stats, fire is also commonly resisted by armor. Dark is rarely resisted by armor and its defense scales with fai, something most dont have. Also, technically 2 weapons deal dark.
>>162772728
Light weapons don't need 40 end but still get 40 str because the refined gem is retarded strong
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>>162772149
FC is for faggots anyways. Invading is so much more fun
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>>162772728
You'd think so because end, but most armor has better fire resist on average.
That and BKS

>>162772797
A combination of poor armor for it, dark res being rised by fth and BKS being the best shield in the game
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>>162772797
>Nigga do you really think that one GS is worth the variety of the 12 other weapons
it can beat any of them easily so yes
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>>162773159
>beating GFS with Onyx

Hah, good one
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>>162729401
It's a feature of their engine, horrible frame-pacing.
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