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Slargirl edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/

>Is the patch good? Should I finally play?
Yes, stop asking

Previous Thread : >>162661038
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>>162673093
naga
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>65 UI complaints early
well at least theres previous link
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What are some games to play while I wait for 7.00abcdz

captcha: navidad call
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>tfw not enough fuTA lewds
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>wake up
>no performance patch
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>>162673263
how could this piece of shit get the most kills in a game record at boston holy shit I'm so mad he's so fucking awful at this game legit bottom 3 mid of boston and this stupid chinless face kill me already dotards
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>creeps don't interrupt bottle, salve, clarity etc anymore
why are they casualising my favourite game so much?
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>>162673442
i hate this
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how do I lvl up my dota profile fast guys?
Have a lv 45 chest that I need to open but my lvl freezing at 25
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>>162673442
Towers don't interrupt salve anymore, so you can dive with it.
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HOL UP HOL UP

But what about loading screens and hud skins?
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What is it with you ""6""k mmr fags saying it's so easy for support to get gold and exp?

My guess is 75% of you wouldn't know where to buy wards and probably play safe lane carries every match.
I literally buy out all the wards, dust, smoke, harass and win lane, rotate to help other lanes, place wards, pick up all the bounties I can, and I'm STILL level 5 while 4/5 of their heroes are level 10.
You leave lane for 30 seconds and you're 3 levels behind.

What am I supposedly doing wrong now?
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>+50 diabolic edict explosions
OUTTA MY WAY IMPURE FUCKING SHITS
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where the fuck is naga firstposting guy im not used to this shit
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>>162673442
like this change
My cm jungle is so much better right now
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>>162673614
TOWERS ARE AN ABOMINATION
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always first pick AM
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The fighting pose intro is really fucking dumb. Its cool to see, and the music is kinda hype, but it completely goes against the mood of the game. Wow, hype up to watch some guys hit some creeps. Real riveting. Its the kind of shit an anon would suggest here and then concentrate his autism in drawing a rough sketch of it, then everyone else would say "anon thats retarded" and the thread would move on. But then they actually did it.
This patch was just a rash of bad ideas put in with little consideration as to whether they were actually good.
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>>162673532
what loading screens and hud skins?
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WE DID IT REDDIT

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5i6lzt/fixed_the_hud/
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Who's this planet of the apes looking dude on the main screen that says he needs no introduction?
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>>162673614
>>162673676
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Anyone else doesn't like the new UI?
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>>162673774
Holy shit it's perfect!
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>>162673718
It's so out of place and stupid that it's kind of funny in an almost satirical way.
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>>162673774
upvoted :D
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>>162673718
>>162673892
Every hero shows what cosmetics he has, its just a way of showing off your hats so people buy them
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>>162673686
>am in 7.00
lul
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>>162673919
Litewrally the strongest hero beside monkey king right now.
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>>162673718
This desu, RIP the comfy music they always got symphonic orchestras to play at TIs
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>>162673802
LMAO 50EDICT!!1
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>>162673392
Generally, they only put performance patches in the spring cleaning patch
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>>162673686
except creeps take two times more to spawn
though bounty runes are nice and his new aghs is truly some OSfrog experience
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>>162673718
wukong's skill one also seems to be familiar to me. Of course, i posted it a lot here ehuhuehauheuhau
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>>162673968
>MONKEY KING
>GOOD
YEA YOU CAN SUCK RIGHT OFF TO HECK WITH THAT OPINION MAN
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>play monkey king
>keep dying and lose
you told me he was free mmr
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>>162674138
YOU ARE BAD HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! KILL YOURSELF :)
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>>162674050
>get am aghs
>sb chargers
>spell shield
>start charging sb
>interrupts your blink away
>die
top jej
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>watch Monkey King
>he bursts the fuck out of his opponent at level 2 for easy first blood
>he wins lane and gets many kills
>the game keeps going
>he stops being able to kill people and gets focused down constantly
>his team loses

Every time
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>>162674253
So like a Pudge Hook but map-wide?
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>>162674138
I report every allied MK if we dont win, you have to be on a whole another level of shit player to do that.
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anyone else getting a lot of Tinkers in your games so far? Shit is fucking awful
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>>162674294
Pretty much how I felt playing him. Really strong early game especially vs melee, and then falls off. His Q is a bit bullshit but he kind just dies if caught out. His ult feels underwhelming as well.
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>>162673765
Why are we defending having loading screens over faster load times now?
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/0/04/Monkey_ally_169.mp3


fourth spirit brother confirmed for next hero
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>>162673774
you also fixed the map it looks like
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>>162674138
he realy isn't
he is some weird mix of ursa and tusk
he is also pretty squishy for melee carry
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Why do people with the arcanas suck ass? Had a afk jungle cm arcana, several dumbass jungle legion arcanas and recently a monkey king arcana who fed the mid medusa like crazy.
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>People who like the patch
Millenials
Redditfags
Women
Casuals
Third Worlders

>People who understand the patch is shit
4channers
People born before 1995
Hardcore Gamers
First Worlders
Men (not nu-males)


Read and learn.
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>>162674348
W.r.t. your picture, did you know that the "death banner" had a golden texture if the dead teammate had enough gold to buyback?
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>>162674348
One of the things that saddens me about Dota is that calling people by their color never caught on like it did in WC3. Saves time to just call them dg or lb, or even just red. Nobody knows what color people are at a glance now though. The colors are just too similar.
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>>162674573
semen spirit
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>>162674294
He's a mid hero, you get map control and win mid-game when your whole team is 2 items ahead of the enemies

If you play with randoms who just afk and don't do dick, and you don't capitalize yourself on your success, then yeah you'll lose late when all that farm went to nothing
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>thread gets posted 65 posts early
>everyone just rolls with it
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>>162674294
pretty much this, feels like icefrog forgot to scale his q, so the first value point is ridiculous but lategame he can only use it once per fight, unlike sof or something
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>>162674573
>tfw no Ilexa hero
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>>162674718
the last 100 posts of any thread are never worth reading
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>>162674649
4channer check
born before 1995 check
master race check

Sound about right
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>>162674713
>people run the enemy/friendly colors
>everyone is red/cyan no matter what
Shit was hilarious sometimes
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>Start playing again after a 2 year break
>Lose 4 games in a row

It hurts so much.
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>>162673968
lol
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I will teach you faggots how to play monkey fucking king

Step 1 : Poor man shield, tangoes
Step 2 : Mid
Step 3 : do 1 1 3 1 build
Step 4 : be aggresive as fuck, you can even skip that disguise shit because its shit and you'd rather get longe stun duration
Step 5 : treads sb echo sabre asap dont ask me why you fucking retard
Step 6 : Max the tree jump next for more damage and slow
Step 7 : stop doing solo hunts you fucking faggot,
Step 8 : read gameplay


Gameplay :
Learn to play ursa first or play ursa instead.
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>>162674443
I've missed every ban-phase of ranked i've played so far because load times are faster
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>>162674439
You use his ult to secure towers.
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>>162674875

I have alternative Disguise build

Play Techies.
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>>162674875
So, rush lifesteal, go rosh then get a blink dagger?
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>>162674858
I hope your children die on their way to school maybe struck by drunken driver or soemthing you mindless retarded fuck.
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>>162674596

quality post rh

>>162674631

only idiots pay $40 for a skin, should be obvious
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>>162674649
>tfw born in 1995
>still hating the patch
d..dotards?
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>>162674835
I can coach you for small small fee of 1 arcana
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How do you get good at this game?
I've played over 2000 hours and I lose almost every game I play.
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>>162674253
>start charging sb
>both get stunned
>after stun blink away before sb reacts
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>>162674671
Associating heroes to their color is a habit that not enough people had (I struggled to do it consistently, personally), but that made the minimap significantly faster to parse.
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>>162673093
>havent played for lika year
>login to play some bot matches to check out how all the stuff works
>i cant since low priority for 5 games
GREAT GAEM DOTURd
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>>162674671
You sometimes hear pro streamers call people by their color. But in all honesty, I still think its better to call them by their hero. Some people don't pay attention to what color they are
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>>162674702
Source? Getting no results on that image.

Ignore this if that lc has a penis
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>STILL being a Dota 2 gameplayer after Valve's countless efforts to jew and extort their customers
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>>162674649

your post it's funny because reality it's completely the opposite
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>play first 3 games on new patch
>matched with some dogshit westerners whining about everything
>lose despite playing well

>get matched with 4 russian stack
>jungle drow
>phoenix apparently hated me for healing him
>we win despite enemy tryharding like its TI with their picks
dota is strange game
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>>162674671
It's only new players who dont call players by their color.
Although I remember colors were extremely popular in 2014 when Brown/Orange were ALWAYS the shittiest player in the team (before they revealed each players MMR numbers in the end screen)
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HOW2PLAY TECHIES REEEEEEEEEEE
t. afk cancet
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Okay, Dotababbies.
Convince me to start playing your game instead of League.
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>Monkey King
>Uses his Q
>Has like a 30 fucking second cooldown
>His W is automatically on cooldown because it's a teamfight and he's taking damage

Literally the only teamfight he has is his ultimate and you can just walk out of it. Otherwise the only ability he has to use after he fires off his Q is his passive which he needs to hit someone 4 times for.

Just slow him and he dies easy.
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Hey d2g, is there an option to always show your K/D/A while in game?
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>>162674739
Stop posting this if I can't ever have it ;_;
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>>162675295

its more like your game then ever, and farming no longer matters
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>>162675186
Why do so many people at this general hate valve for being jews, meanwhile loltards often defend riot marketing despite having to grind to new champions?
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>play a game to test new patch
>turn UI as far back as possible, overriding current unit, disable screen shake
>screen still flashes red, blue and green
>random text and noises everywhere
>every important stat is even too small for ants
nice fucking patch valve
BRAVO
R
A
V
O

map is also utter garbage, i could manage to live with talents but who the fuck came up with all the other shit
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>>162675309
>and you can just walk out of it
Any on-hit effects he has are also applied by his clones, with their own cooldowns. If he has skadi or echo saber, you aren't getting out of the ring.
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>>162675330
glue your alt key so its always pressed
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>>162675045
no nigger
the support venge will then stun you
and you will die
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>>162674649
>i don't know what millenials mean: the post
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fuck this game and league of legends, bunch of faggots play this pussy ass shit.
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>>162675295
Judging by your image and the way you type you're just here for waifus and animefaggotry.

League is the perfect game for you.
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How can anyone pretend that THE monkey king build is anything except phase, echo, desolator, basher, sny, skadi?
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>You might be witnessing the return to ricing dota after all these le teamfight all le time metas
Anyone have more of these to celebrate, I just have this and the Spectre one
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>>162675309

he's a counter initiator dumbass, your not supposed to jump in before anyone else. why the fuck do you think he has the ability to infinitely sit in fucking trees.
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>>162675186
I still don't have to pay for heroes.
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So now that every single one of moba games has Monkey king hero, should he be the staple pillar representing game quality?
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visage is the most broken hero in the game by far desu, legit a free win with just atos, solar crest, tranqs.
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>>162675414
Dude it takes him 1.5 seconds to cast his ult and then another 1 or 2 seconds for the statues to run out to their place.

If you get caught in his ult you're fucking retarded. Use the shitload of gold you get now to buy a fucking forcestaff.
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>>162675295
Begone
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>>162675507
>ricing
>jungle spawns every 2 min
?
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>>162675521
lmao have fun losing pa with that build u 2k shreklord
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>>162675401
>>disable screen shake
How?
>>162675309
>Just slow him and he dies easy.
Just buy rod of atos, its pretty good against monkey
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>>162675507
>the return to ricing dota
>bounty runes out of everyones ass
>2 minute neutral respawn
>less gold loss
>free regen everywhere
this is more 5 man hero brawler than ever before, might as well play battleright at this point to skip the 3 min "laning phase" that is only there to gather basic exp at this point
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>>162674363
>win lane
>lose game
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>give old UI back with talent tree added
>everyone's happy.
IT'S NOT FUCKING HARD IS IT.
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>>162675387
Dota has an overall consumer-friendly business model (don't have to pay for gameplay) while LoL has always been consumer-unfriendly, and its players are used to it.
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>Someone on the enemy team picks Techies
A free... win?
>Proximity Mines do fuckall
>Stasis Mines are mandatory just to make Remotes work, and do fuckall otherwise compared to the already terrible old version
>Blast Off is shittier than Suicide Squad in every way (if he uses it to initiate with le ebin silence he becomes a free kill and gives a massive window to cancel it, if it would somehow trouble you)
Why the fuck do people keep picking him? Jesus christ he's even worse than before.
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>>162675656
Monkey King is shit but Rod of Atos is literally good against everything now. Shit is broken as fuck.
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>>162675184
no idea sorry
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>>162675656
>How?
It's in the options menu, friend.
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>>162675423
I like this post
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I think I'm done dotards, I wanted to give this patch a chance but after playing a few matches it just doesn't feel right anymore. Removing attributes didn't seem like a bad idea in hindsight but damn it fucked things up, now it feels like I'm playing Overthrow on a bigger map, sure, Overthrow can be fun, but at the end of the day I always found myself going back to regular dota and now it's just not there.

The HUD also feels like it was designed by someone who doesn't play the game but it'll probably get fixed soon, the ole' dota feel however seems like it's lost now.
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Holy shit, what the fuck happened? I'm gone for a month or two and now the game is unrecognizable.
Everything's so small.
And did they seriously add talents like in fucking HotS?
What the fuck Valve?
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riki and gondar are so fucking cancer right now
you can catch retards going for bounty runes all the time
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is everyone crashing during teamfights? just played 2 games in a row with friends and crahsed multiple times. not my computer i have a 1070 and a i7 6700k
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>>162675286
Max suicide, roam, when diving under tower, plant a bomb so that no matter what it cripples the tower and then wait till youre low hp, suicide so you deny yourself or if you can get the kill just do it right away and fuck bitches get money
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what heroes DONT you buy rod of atos on now? it's the best item in the game.
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>gulag, reddit and eves pros shit on new HUD in unison
>it doesn't get fixed
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ITT Butthurt Necro Players.
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>it's an allied MK doesn't know how to play the hero and rushes vanguard episode
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>>162675682
>but anon, you're just naturally against any change. The patch hasn't even been out for a week and ALREADY you are complaining about a game thats completely FREE! Valve has been making this game for YEARS, they can't possibly make a mistake
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>>162675637
>>162675660
>less gold from kills
>objectively a better jungle combined with the bounties, even with le 2 min spawn, just stacking is nerfed
>harder to go highground
>people want to get high levels for le fun le talents, most games you could be won with "who has most depush combined with better endgame heroes"
>better control of your jungle with shrine
>multiple le teamfight heroes from previous HOTS patches got nerfs or didn't get buffed with good talents while endgame heroes did
The only arguments one could make for not ricing patch are
>w-well illusions got nerfed
and
>w-well people are teamfighting right now, eventhough the start of every big patch is a shitshow because no one knows what else to do but fight
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>introduce overthrow as your version of a hero brawler
>noone plays it
>make the main game a hero brawler
really makes you think
i thought they wanted more players, not less
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Moneky faggot should not be allowed to go from almost 0 to full with his monkey bash

this is fucking dumb
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>>162675952
I want to breed crystal maiden
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> reddit and everyone that actually gets noticed by valve shits on the UI
> But not on the casualiation of this game in things like salves dont get canceled by creeps anymore, free fountain in your lanes, backpacks, and free gold and xp, and many other things

Makes me sad in my real non-meme life.
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-35s respawn or 150/min gold on Pudge?
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>>162675970
how do you play the hero?
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>>162673442
there goes the only skill required in 1k baka
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POINTS
WHEN
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>>162676208
one step at a time anon we'll get through this
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>>162676225
you don't rush vanguard, and you read how your passive works instead of hitting each enemy hero 3 times and then dying

also you don't use disguise to move around the map at 150 ms
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>>162676224
Pudge doesn't need gold in any of the stages of the game.
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>>162675660
>>162676068
>implying that games below 5k MMR will ever be anything but hero brawler material, regardless of how IceToad patches the game
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>>162675751
People just haven't realized that you can't play him in the same retard way that doesnt fit dota, as before. You can't just have a stress free game of placing mines while your team is trying to win, you might have to contribute now

>>162675807
I don't think anyone can make any judgement about this patch before you've played for atleast 2 weeks and 50 games besides the obvious "can't see stats" etc things, since you have no idea if you actually dislike the patch ,or dislike change. Also the start of the patch is never an accurate indication on what the patch will really be like.
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>>162675897
items after arcs?
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>Targeting portrait to cast on your hero removed
Targeting portrait to cast on your hero removed
>Targeting portrait to cast on your hero removed
Targeting portrait to cast on your hero removed
>Targeting portrait to cast on your hero removed
Targeting portrait to cast on your hero removed
>Targeting portrait to cast on your hero removed
Targeting portrait to cast on your hero removed

IF THEY DON'T PUT THIS BACK I QUIT
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>>162676372
>arcs
You get tranquils, soul ring, shadow blade, after that it doesnt matter that much, get what you need the most, euls, force staff, aghs, octarine, this, that
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>>162676380
Just double click/tap?...
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ATTENTION - THIS IS NOT A MEME
if the only way to make our voice heard is by stopping to play ENTIRELY and unironically posting on reddit and using their voice against them
create MASS threads, angry, whiny, dissapointed and genuinely sad ones, make up a fucking story of how you lost your only hobby or some shit.
collect FREE upboats and make dota great again
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>>162675521
Hots doesnt has Monkey Kang
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>>162676380
I never knew this option existed, I just double tap.
Feels like I'v been missing out.
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Does people actually fall for the disguise of MK?
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>>162675952
It's because no matter how much people whine at Valve, they'll get used to it and forgive, just like every time.
The only real problems with the UI were no stats and xp bar seen. Stats are in already, XP bar is probably gonna come.

>>162676336
Well yeah, but who gives a shit about sub 5k, that's not even dota and there's no meta to discuss
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>>162676208

it's a bargaining strategy

push for something extreme, so when you roll back to only 50% of what they dont want, they're more likely to accept.
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>>162676380
Also if you have more than 1 unit selected you can no longer click on the portrait to center the camera on them.
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>tfw
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>>162676505
>get to hit creeps to win the game again
I'll be willing to suffer through the UI for this, they ARE making dota great again, if the ricing is amplified once were done with the beginning of the patch, and everyone calms down with the retard teamfighting
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>>162676380
just use alt+key if you are using quickcast or double tap if you don't, either way is faster
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>15k viewers on wagacuckma
jesus christ
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>>162676523
If you clip threw the stairs and don't move, yeah.
>Creaps don't attack
>Towers don't attack
Nice one, toad.
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>>162676523
I did
He was disguised as an rune ;_;
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>>162675918
Heroes with stuns
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>>162676618
wtf i love monkey cuck now
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so monkey king basically confirms through response lines that:
1) AA has a crush on crystal maiden
2) juggernaut and TA used to date
3) windrunner and drow have a tsundere thing going

is valve trying to bait shippers or what?
because i'm all for this
>>
Nothing makes you feel worse than playing this fucking game.
Why do I keep playing it?
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>>162673539
>almost 200 post, no replies

Shows just how infrequently /d2g/ supports. No wonder everyone is whining about losing to sky monkey.
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/9/91/Monkey_rival_172.mp3
is this a joke about sprouted rtz
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>>162676830
>1) AA has a crush on crystal maiden
What does he say?
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randomed new treant; pretty fun. unfortunately the enemy team had monkey dude and an arc warden that somehow got 14 kills while i was trying to duel the monkey
i killed him because he got stupid then before i knew it he was back at unstoppable

monkey is really annoying to fight. the passive debuff lasts what feels like years and his damage early is just absurd and he only gets even stronger as the game goes on
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>tfw monkey king camoflagued as tree doesnt proc treants passive
ONE JOB VOLVO
ONE JOB
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>>162676693
I used alt + qweasd for my items
And I used quickcast

So I can't really do that.
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>>162674671
I do this occasionally, thinking about this makes me fucking miss Brood War.
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>>162676830
Fucking dykes, get out of my game
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Can her dreams come true, d2g?
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>>162676830
>>162676830
DELETE THIS SHE IS PURE SHE NEVER DATED AANYOONE FUCK YOU
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>>162676661
>>get to hit creeps to win the game again
>4 bounty runes
>gpm and xp increasing talents
>supports reach lvl 25 in 30 minutes
sure ricing is the way
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>>162676830
post the clips liar
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Looks like it's still a CPU issue for Dota 2, my RX 480 at Max settings(no shadows) is still above 50fps with very scattered GPU usage, performance is about the same at 1080p lowest settings

I'm on an FX 8 core, it's the same issues as before where most of the work is placed on CPU core 0
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>>162676921
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/6/63/Monkey_ally_05.mp3

"Listen ghost, if you're ever gonna ask the Crystal Maiden out on that date, you'd better start working on those ice puns."
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>>162676830
>windrunner and drow have a tsundere thing going
thats from warcraft, they are sisters
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>>162674790
I just noticed, my post was meant for >>162674671
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>>162676998
see >>162676068
Also unless youre also afk farming a supports, youre not getting 25 on supports at 30 minutes, not even on carries unless you go 25/1
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>>162676989
Courrier at best
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also what do i build on new treant?
i got to blink dagger and was just like... now what do i do?
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>>162676505
I havent even played a single match
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>>162676830
>juggernaut and TA used to date

well at least it's not the stupid rubick ship
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>>162677043
>FX8
neck yourself
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>>162676929
>tfw you can't kill MK disguised as a tree with quelling blade or tangoes
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>>162676992
sloot

also this kills the rubick ta fanart
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>>162677043
It seems like the threading in general is a fucking buggy mess right now.

In an ideal world, game devs actually know how to program.
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>>162675186
>dont have to pay for heroes
>game is open for content creators
>cosmetic sales to make back investments for free game without making it pay2play like most other F2P games
>game is constantly updated instead of abandoned by it's developers after it's first 2 years of success
>"countless efforts to jew"

LOL. You dotards have it so fucking good, and yet you still complain.
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I just got a RX480 and remembered about that vulkan meme.

Does it actually do anything?
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>>162676343
The new Techies isn't forced interactivity to be good, it's forced interactivity to not be completely fucking useless and even then he still feeds gold when initiating.
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why exactly does Monkey King get free skill?
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>>162676960
same :')
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>>162676992
>>162677036
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/9/95/Monkey_ally_78.mp3 Monkey King to Jugg

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/c/cd/Monkey_ally_175.mp3 Monkey King to TA

CONFIRMED
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>>162677172
b-but the hats and terrains!!
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>>162675193

really? go to /r/dota2 and tell me the entire board isn't 24/7 patch defense force.

also, throw "sub-4k mmr" into the group that likes the patch.
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>>162677128
>>162677169
The game used to run at 100fps on my set up, valve really went overboard with the CPU performance requirements
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>>162676989
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>>162676380
>not using alt cast
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>>162677252
>>
>changing random hotkeys in client
>game crashes
wew lad
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>>162676989
of becoming a cock slave? yes
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>>162677338
its a beta
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>>162677294
WHY WOULD YOU POST THIS
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>>162677213
Yes, and this is a good base to start building from, the old techies playstyle was shit that didn't belong in dota. Just make him a bomb thrower already.
All that's keeping that from happening is "W-well it was mines in Warcraft!"
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>>162675295
no
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>>162677252

Was Jugg able to take all of TA's length?
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>>162677378
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>>162677294
You are the worst kind of person
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>>162677252
DELETE THIS
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>>162677486
MADMAN
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>>162677486
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>>162676380
this kills the me
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WHY DID MY FUCKING GAME JUST CRASH LA
GETTIN REAL FUCKIN MAD LA
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>People pretending they care about attrib points being removed when they never leveled them up until 17 unless you played Jugg or AM.

I know d2g is retarded but surely not this STUPID.
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>>162677608
its literally a beta senpai
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>>162677486
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>>162677294
why she such a dramawhore

hes just gonna respawn in like 2 mins like everything else
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I muted chat last time I played 6.88 and now there's no mute all checkbox anymore so I can't remove it. Anyone know a fix?
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Purge please
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>>162677648
>jugg or am
Youre retarded
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>>162677398
p-please?
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>>162677648
I miss it because I at least had SOMETHING reminding me that I was levelling up. 14-24 just feel like a barren emptiness now. Nothing to do.
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>>162677702
>9 hours
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>>162677648
talents are unironically the least shit thing about the patch even though it sounds stupid
everything else is just on a different level of shit
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>>162677702
>9hours
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>>162677703
Name others because you're lying.

>>162677754
That's fucking pathetic Anon, With talents you can choose different things depending on how the game is going.

People only cry about talents because HAHAHA WE HOTS NOW XD talents have never been done before HOTS right guys, Fuck off.
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>>162677648
It makes late game pretty lame considering you don't attack as fast and have lower health/mana, ESPECIALLY for spell-casters considering they no longer have ____% boost from the int.

And do not say that the Talents fix this
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>bunch of nerds getting headaches from the new dota
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>>162677294
>yfw MK was the one to kill him
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>>162677797
I just dont understand why they added so many STAIRS

it makes the game feel cramped
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>>162677259
as someone who has played games tribes ascend and smite religiously, dota 2 is such a fucking lucky F2P game.

I fucking loved tribes ascend, but Hi-Rez absolutely shit all over it, made it P2W garbage and stuffed it into a dumpster after the initial hype boost ended when their shitty p2w model didn't work.

I mean I'll be honest I don't now the valve-community relationship entirely, but AT LEAST they KINDA care enough to keep the game alive and not fuck it over with anything game breaking. I'd hardly call a shit UI and some misbalance game breaking, because those are things that can be fixed if enough people complain about it.

Unlike Hi-Rez, who don't give a shit how many players complain about it, and will just do whatever they want.

pic related, me and my wifes son
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>>162677702
Only 9 hours?
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>>162677702
>Went to sleep while purge was just starting on hero changes
>Talked 20 minutes about AA talents
>Slept 5 hours
>Wake up
>Purge is on Lina talents
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how am i supposed to hold all these nature's attendants?
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>>162677702
This should become the next bee movie script.
Too bad no one will ever be mad(autistic) enough to turn those 9 hours in to text.
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>>162677917
the second the Monkey King actually goes near the ancients he would've been brain controlled right?
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>>162677923
Really? Everything feels bigger for me. Probably the extra fucking inch we can view now that Valve gutted the good shit from the HUD.
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>>162677871
Aa
Ember
Some variations of warlock
Dont know why am i responding to 3k shitstain ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Valve's guy says stop crying

https://twitter.com/wykrhm/status/808722839251480576
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>>162677702
>autistic man mumbling to himself (NINE HOUR EDITION)
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>>162677702
he spent an hour just doing the letter B
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>7.00 fucking annihilated my framerate from 140+ to 30+
I just want to play the monkey...
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>>162678103
>valve's guy

I though he was just a brown cyborgmatt
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>>162677965
I think the relation with us and valve is that they kinda do wanna please us and be a nice company while also making money, I doubt they would never completely trade our support for ingame payments, but Valve knows that no matter what they do, we'll whine for a while then quiet down, because Valve will almost never say "You know what, you're right, we'll back down on this".
They're basically nice until someone disagrees with them
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>>162677648
That's irrelevant, because even on their own talents are a stupid system. And as a sidenote, talents replacing stat ups has a very real impact on 17+, which means even the heroes on which taking early stats was a bad idea are affected by this.
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>>162677923
because they made it in the source 2 grid editor in hammer so it looks fucking stupid and way too angular for natural land formations. it's why the staircases are also fucking huge now instead of having any small thin chokepoints because they used 2-grid wide paths everywhere
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>>162678097
>Ember
LMAO
>AA
I can see why.
>warlock.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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>>162678160
Unlike Matt, he's actually affiliated with Valve. He's an internal tester.
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>>162678103
who would have guessed that those lazy niggers dont want you to complain about their 10 minutes ms paint effort
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>>162678137
he spent 10 minutes describing how Enigma's black hole wouldn't cause heroes to rotate around it. I wish I was kidding
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>>162673532
HUD skins can be re-enabled in your global items. Theyve been remapped to the new UI where possible, most of them look pretty good still.

Loading screens will show up when you need a loading screen, but that's almost never now. Joining spectating, or a hero demo will still use them but mostly you won't see them. it's kind of sad to see the art not used anymore but it's for the best, because you don't see loading screens almost ever anymore.
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>>162677871
>that's fucking pathetic
how so? levels beyond 14 that aren't 18 or 20 or 25 are completely empty now
and no, you DON'T pick talents based on how the game is going, because there's almost always just a right choice, flat out. I haven't picked anything but the same 4 as visage the whole time and I've been stomping.
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It's such a pain in the ass to look at enemy hero items and level, maybe I'm not used to it but I really liked how it worked before.
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>>162677702
>Wake up
>I am 5 mil years into the future
>Heat death of the sun
>Purge is still calculating the extra 40+ dmg on LC's talents
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>>162673442
>>162676236
This literally shouldn't make a difference if you are at least average at the game tbqh

Shitters will have an even harder time this patch because now they have to make actual decisions on the fly instead of HURR ME GET STATS.
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Why do stuff like illusions from DS wall or enigma creeps dont have autoattack anymore?
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Dota is finished guys, the player numbers were literally higher 2 days ago.
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>>162678103
He has a completely valid point. This is a big patch, so there's gonna be a bigger outcry, but most of the whining is people whining just because they don't like change and refuse to get used to the new things.
Sure, there's a couple of bad apples like not being able to see stats (which they fixed), but as a whole it's a fine UI after some tweaking
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>>162677648
>restricting builds
>good
?
They might remove couple of levels now that they dont do a jack shit.
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>>162678268
You can change it back, which is the one good thing about new HUD

>>162678327
You can also change autoattack settings back iirc, they made some new "smart" setting or some bullshit.
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>>162678360
Give it at least a month to see if there is a statistically significant difference.
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>I'd rather see exp numbers than more of the game play
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>>162678225
>how Enigma's black hole wouldn't cause heroes to rotate around it
well Purge does have a degree in physics
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>>162678219
>He's an internal tester.
Internal tester? Can someone ask this retard how he failed to notice that primary attributes aren't displayed on the main HUD?
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>>162678198
So this.. Is the power.. Of 3k.. Thx /d2g/
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>>162678327
are you sure your options didn't got fucked up? i remember they added separate autoattack options for controlled units some time ago, look for it in advanced options
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>>162678268
>look to the left instead of down
Yeah, you're just not used to it
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>>162678361
It's worse than the old in all gameplay aspects so it's worth complaining about.
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>>162678361
The pic in his tweet is not even comparable to the new hud. You have to be delusional to think that the HUD is just fine when almost everything is moved around to areas that you're not used to looking at for literally no reason
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>>162678360
>numbers were higher during the weekend
really makes you think
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>>162678489
lmao you don't keep your job rocking the boat, you keep your job by suppressing you gag reflex
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>>162678269
>Heat death of the sun
Anon....
>>
Some of the complaints in this thread are proper cringey.
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>>162677063
In dota 2 they are married.
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>>162676523
Sure fooled me.
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>>162678530
Yeah but I'm looking down all the time for my own HP, items and level, I'd rather not have to look at the left side to do a quick check.

>>162678464

how do I change it back
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>>162678483
>has a degree in physics
>needs to use a calculator for every single basic addition
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>>162678269
>5 million years
> sun's death
dudenotsosoon.jpg
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>>162678557
There's nothing wrong with extra info being hidden behind alt, you're not complaining on being barraged with a text of all the additional skill info when you hover over it, no, you press alt to see that.
All the other shit is just shit you're not used to
>>
>30fps watching kuroky
guess I'll go back to studying
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>>162673539
>harass and run out of exp range
>rotate and run out of exp range
>place wards and run out of exp range
>pick up bounties and run out of exp range
hmm i wonder why. if everyone is level 10 and you're level 5, stop faggoting around in the jungle about "muh vision" and go help the fights so you actually win.
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>>162678707
it easier to display it visually through a calculator and leave it on the screen than to just say it once senpai. Purge knows what hes doing
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wow thanks valve
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>>162677486
>Implying we aren't killing the same creeps over and over again
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>>162678514
>>162678464
thank you sir :)
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>>162678695
How can you not laugh at that
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>>162676830
>>162677114
>Now two heroes confirmed wanting to fug CM
>Autistic book nerd with autistic nip
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>>162678695
I'm fucking dying lmao
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>>162678747
Why would anyone want to press Alt for that

Give me one reason. The only possible one is to save space, but its clear that there is an abundance of open space on the hud

off urself valvedrone
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>>162678695
fucking how. How do you not see that

also thanks for the laugh, Anon. I needed that
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>>162678695
this gets funnier every time
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>>162676618
>nothing special for killing / being with bristleback (pig)
>nothing mentioned about already being immortal when picking up aegis
>mischief doesn't show monkey tail when transformed (even if it's just for allies)
TRIGGERED
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>>162678695
>when the tree suddenly moves
my sides
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>>162678695
what the fuck is that sky skillbuild
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>>162678695
Can be worse anon, at least this make laugh
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>>162678695
I like monkey king's design and how he plays but I think his passive needs some nerfs
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>>162678695
Fucking hell.

Where were you when Dota became Prop Hunt?
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>>162678695
>Mid sky maxing the SLOW.
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>>162678695
this UI is so fucking bad
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>>162678828
did you ever fucking tune into his stream?
he needed to do stupid shit like 12x4 and 6+7 for spell damage
not because he was doing some massive math problem with multiple numbers or to show the stream what the number was
he literally could not do them in his head
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>>162676524
There is an xp bar though, it goes around the level.

Unless you mean that people want it to be a straight line again rather than circular?
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>>162678897
Exactly, to save space, the same reason we get the minimalist hud, to focus on the core gameplay, and when you do want to see extra info, you just press alt, it really doesn't take that much effort.

You don't always see spawn boxes, eventhough it would probably help you, and you don't see all the enemy hero levels on the screen. Why? Because it's distracting, and all it takes is one press of a button to see those things, which is better than just slapping it all on the screen
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>>162674875
>no blightstone
nice build m8, must be fun at triple digit mmr
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>>162679164
It has to have the numbers, so you can see if you'll get lvl 6 from the next 2 creeps, or will it take 3 or 4?
>>162679067
I mean who cares, if there's something I learned in life, you can always just use a calculator
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>>162675751
>750 magic damage
>fuckall
>doesn't need aghs to splitpush anymore
>still has remote traps
>mines everywhere fuck up enemy hp and positioning
>suicide now doesn't kill you and silences
It's like icefrog undid the nerfs that made him go from good enough to win TI to being the worst hero then buffed the shit out of him.
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>>162679164
Have you noticed how pretty much no games uses a circular hp bad?
That's because a straight line is easier to read.
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>>162679187
>having the stats on your screen is distracting
>having all the important information hidden the furthest possible from where you want them is distracting
hmmm
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>>162678695
well that came out of fucking nowhere.

10/10 I had a giggle
>>
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/1/10/Monkey_rival_106.mp3
meepo 6th clone confirmed
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>>162678960
Rushing midas to reach 15 fast and get the gold talent. It's not an optimal build, it's my first match as Skywrath Mage in 7.00 but I wanted to try Aghs. It's worth it.

>>162679049
Yeah I don't know what to max. I just figured early Aghs I'd want the concussive shot because it applies both to a target if they're alone; arcane bolt doesn't.
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>>162679049
>losing as a random gold lycan against sheever
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>>162679187
>people honestly have this opinion

I find it distracting from the core gameplay that I have to push a button to see my fucking CS
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>>162679314
Hold alt
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>>162679454
>Chen takes my jungle.
>Team expects me to lane against Clinkz when he was super OP that patch.
>Pudge being a feeding shit back.
Yeah sorry m8.
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About to play my first 7,00 game, but I'm confused about runes.

Is there no 0 rune?? What do I do at 0? Creep block? What did you do in dota 1?
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Gameplay wise the CK aghs has to be the most broken thing that came out of this patch right?
Which is kinda sad because it cucks him into support position who is supposed to farm aghs now.
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>>162679367
>having to press a button to see EVERYTHING you want to see is too much, when you've already made it into a reflex with stuff like seeing spawn boxes and hero icons on minimap, takes too much effort
There's literally nothing wrong with the mechanic of hiding additional information behind a single press of a button. It's not in the furthest possible location, it's right fucking there
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>that valve artist is so touchy about the ui
>the "the last time we changed it the reaction was the same ;^)" tweet

Fuck I hate idiots like this guy. You can tell that hes responsible for the changes, and he doesn't want to revert them/cave in to the popular demands because he can't admit he was wrong.
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>mfw techies actually feels like I'm paying a terrorist now instead of an explosive baby sitter

Time to crash my mmr with no survivors
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>>162679582
lycan rapes clinks in lane retard
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>>162679619
hes just an alpha tester has nothing to do with actual changes
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>>162673539
Learn to get exp and gold when lanes are pushing or empty or kill more ppl
not hard
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>>162679598
Why wouldn't you just make your own illusions, other heroes don't get Reality Rift
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>>162679670
can someone give me a quick rundown on how to play techies now? Do you still rush soul ring and become and high ground defender?
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>>162679696
so he's a sycophant trying to earn good boy points then
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>>162679619
his profile picture makes me want to smash monitor like my boy puppey
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>>162679594
bounty runes spawn at 0, and ward one runespot, as there is only one power rune in river now.
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>>162679570
>>162679609
I know pressing a button is real simple and all, but let me make a proposition:

What if we could see everything WITHOUT pressing a button.

Really mind blowing, considering there's more than enough space on the hud to accommodate everything, and much much simpler too
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>>162679609
And I say there's everything wrong with it, looks like the argument is at a standstill
you also have to press alt and hover over the damage to check your base / bonus damage and base / bonus armour
>it's fucking there
the gold and health indicator are at the very bottom of the screen which require more eye movement and can fuck you up in a split situation
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>There are people that don't know how OP new Techies is.
Here's how you play him: You max Q and E first. Fuck remote mines, those are after you get your Aghs upgrade. When paired up with any one that has a stun or a slow, E is a death sentence. You jump on someone, drop a mine behind them and they die if your teammate follows up.

Mines are used for farming. Drop one at the base of every tower, then use them to farm neutrals because you can kill two camps at once instantly. You can quickly get rich and start snowballing out of control thanks your stupid map control. You practically have infinite mana early game thanks to the shrines, just make sure to share them with your team if they're injured or low on mana.
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REMINDER TO TURNNOFF AIMPLE MAP
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>>162679619
But he is completely right in what he is saying. People HATE change, if this wasn't a community of toxic shitters, you should probably wait like a month for people to get used to the changes, and only then take their complaints seriously.
Besides the not seeing stats thing, that was just objectively bad
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>>162679696
>alpha tester

so he's one of the retards who thought monkey king was ready for release?
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>>162679742
it works like this
you use phantasm on lets say morphling, you get to control these morph illusions and yes these illusions will work with your reality rift and teleport with you
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>>162679570
>hey this information isn't available
>hold alt
>hey this information isn't available
>hold alt
>hey this information isn't available
>hold alt
>hey this information isn't available
>hold alt
>hey this information isn't available
>hold alt

what happened to JUST FUCKING TELLING ME THIS SHIT SO I CAN FOCUS ON THE FUCKING GAME
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>>162678695
haha oh wow
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>>162679670
Buy a Veil and Octarine.

Thank me later.
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>>162679760
>>162679696
he is the reddit dota 2 moderator

literally redd1t: the human incarnate
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>>162679883
change is fine
doing halfassed changes such as removing stats then giving every hero a buncha placeholder "talents" is fucking garbage
Making the game more like league is fucking garbage
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>>162679887
icefrog always releases new shit in broken form

easier to balance
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>>162679823
No, there's no reason to have everything right there, it's distracting, atleast to some players.
It's in no way simpler to just slap everything right there, just add a console box in the corner while you're at it, to see EVERYTHING.

Hiding stuff behind a button thats easy to press and already comes naturally to players is the better alternative

I mean obviously the best option would be having the option to choose, but then no one would use any of the new things, just like with the Reborn client at the start, and Valve wouldn't like that.

Seems to be like you're just being autistic because you hate change in general. Go play like a 100 games, get used to the UI, then come back with complaints
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Do people still think Monkey King is OP? He seems pretty close to balanced, his passive might need a bit of tweaking but that's it.
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>play invoker
>no forge spirits till lvl15 wtf
>no stat increase
>get stun locked by kotl somehow
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>>162679758
Stash mines in the crevices of the jungle near pathways to minimize vision of your bombs, put stasis taps ontop of them to ensure it works.

Early in the lane though I wouldn't bother leveling mines, your launch attack has lot's of kill potential, especially if you max it. Mining is for area control mid and late game
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>>162679570
>>162679921
7.01

> HUD hidden by default
> hold Alt to view
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>>162680118
>monkey king zones you out of lane at level 1 and kills you under your tower at level 2

BALANCED
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>>162680118
he's OP as fuck but your average 3k mongoloid can't play him
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>>162680118
600 damage level one
>lmao just kite him
but thats not always a possibility
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>>162679772
I'd smash his face in desu
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>>162679758
rush soul ring, but take tranquils instead of mana boots or take both if you're an absolute madman like me, use proxy mines and stasis traps together to catch people my unawares, hide them in the jungles. Use Blast off from the jungle to surprise gank and apply nonconsensual buttsex to your target with Dagon. Still use remote mines to rope off towers and camps, but everything else is priority. You are now an assassin.

Most recently I maxed out E first followed by Q and W. Fuck R, use that late game. I also advise getting silver edge for even better surprise buttsex and and blink to chase down escapees
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>>162675660
this is what bothers me greatly
>free gold
>free regen
>no way to end the game quick by simply playing hardcore from start to finish because it isnt solo game
>you have to waste 20-40minutes at "farming" phase that doesnt give any feeling of victory, because lmao free shit for all players
>picks win games, not how good you are

any games that i can get into right off the bat with actual results and rewards? i cant stand the fact i need to wait to get to the real phase, that is forced via free shit
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7.01 fucking when
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Aside from Monkay Dik, what are the free mmr heroes currently?
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>>162680224
even a 3k mongoloid could play him if he read a very basic guide like /d2g/'s canonical copy/pasta

literally all you have to do is chase them with boots/oov, hit them 4 times and press Q and hit them again and they're already dead
nobody can trade hits with you, you're hard to escape, your range lets you zone them, his laning is god tier and he's also a good ganker and carry, hell he can roam from level 1
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Why can't I launch the game?
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>>162680115
It don't want to see everything. I want to see what I saw three days. You're right about having tower range and creep spawn boxes hidden under Alt though.
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>>162680294
t. 2k mmr
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>>162680369
>even a 3k mongoloid could play him if he read a very basic guide like /d2g/'s canonical copy/pasta

you say that, but me and one other guy out of maybe 15 kangz have played the hero correctly

too many idiots fall for the disguise meme and don't realize how broken the passive is
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>>162680369
So you think he can be a support?
>>
Regardless of what happens in this patch, nothing will ever be as bad as meme push.

>people hitting level 6/5
>start pushing down every tier 1 tower
>get such a huge gold lead that they snowball
>game over in 20 minutes
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>>162680353
every hero that got changed is a winner desu
MK op, lycan op, treant op, techies op, necro is the only one not so op
the only thing that got gutted this patch was mask of badness
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>>162680405
press alt
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>>162680431
by zoning out the enemies with his OP laning? definitely
he can gank and roam with no items
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>>162680405
Because you uninstalled it after Ti4
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>>162680353
Puck
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>>162680460
Like hold it while I click play? That isn't working
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>>162680279
IMO, Veil is a lot better for Techies now since all of his damage is now magical and Q has a delay, which gives you time to pop Magic Weakness and blow some poor fucker up without him having time to retaliate.
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>let's hide things like cs/kda and stats so they will be available only when you press alt
>but add tree of talents that shows nothing useful and takes as much space as hero portrat
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>>162680353
Omniknight, Underlord, Visage, Silencer and Abbadon
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>>162680245
you're alright
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>>162680539
don't reply to me or my wife's son's shitposts ever again retard
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>>162680548
I think dagon is a higher priority because it covers a huge area of weakness in GOTTA BLAST, i.e. leaving somebody with like 100 HP left.
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What happened to the original Monkey King voiceover guy? Why did they replace him?
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>>162680353
EL VISAGE
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>>162680624
Anon please, I just want to try out the new patch. It keeps getting stuck on "Preparing to launch dota 2"
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>Icefrog makes a new hero
>Spells synergize massively with each other
>Incredibly hard to master
>Fast-paced, complex and varied
>Above all fun to play

>Valve makes a new hero
>100% Pure Memes

Legit question: What the fuck happened to Icefrog? Where the fuck is he now?
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>>162680548
didn't think of that still won though. Those poor bastards were moving in packs of 2-3 by the sixth surprise goblin gangbang
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>I finally stopped playing dota
thank you Valve
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>>162679864
kek it's not updated yet
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>>162680683
voice actor strike
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Is it possible to mute the announcer packs? Jesus fuck the default and Maiden are getting on my nerves
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>reach lvl 10
>don't skill talent
>level up again
>talent tab isn't glowing so I forget about it until lvl 15

I love how this hud increases the ease of access for new players
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>>162680663
Even better. Dagon does magical damage, so get Veil afterward and finish with Octarine, maybe get a casual Void if your teammates are hogging le ebin HotS buildings.
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>>162680702
have you tried turning it off and back on again?
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>>162680683
He thought he was irreplaceable and Gabe wasn't amused.
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>>162680837
Why are you so mean anon
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Bloodrage + Techies
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>tfw dota became so shit I'm unironically installing HoN again
hope this game still has some players left lmao
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>>162680867
Because as of 7.00 I'm a techies main, and I need to catch up on my assholery
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>>162674649
>4channers
check
>People born before 1995
1990
>Hardcore Gamers
I only play dota, since 2007
>First Worlders
Canada, you got me here
>Men (not nu-males)
I'm not a virgin anymore

Enjoying the shit out of this patch famalam, your projecting isn't getting anywhere
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WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
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>>162681009
They had to make him balanced before adding him to captain's mode
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>>162681009
TELL ME WHY
TELL ME WHY
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>>162680970
you are't a very good boy, are you
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>>162679742
illus of your core blink with you

So basically if you have a really farmed core with good illusions, this 5k net worth 1-6-8 support CK suddenly becomes able to oneshot supports and cripple cores out of a fight in a second, coupled with having a pseudo-disruption when the actual core gets initiated on
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>>162681154
>13
HOW
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She's literally going to become a hero and there's NOTHING you can do about it
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>>162681009
>nerf rapier strat and free Midas with every Double
>WOW THIS HERO IS COMPLETELY USELESS, I CANT FARM NOW

>nerf regen w/ Double
>WOW I CAN'T JUST CHEESE MYSELF THROUGH THE LANING PHASE
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>>162681274
Rape her before she does.

https://www.f-list.net/c/ilexa
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>>162680708
>"valve makes a hero"
do people still believe icefrog didnt create monkey king
Also the concept is great, what the fuck
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>>162680138
No, mine is stupidly OP after 2nd level in it. Melee heroes cannot approach creeps without losing half of their health.
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>>162680431
roaming position 4 riki-style is objectively MK's best role

He doesn't scale strong enough to be a carry and he isn't good enough in 5v5 to be a secondary core, also he can't 1v2 or 2v3 too well
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>>162675765
I pseudo gotchufam. Artist is greenmarine/g1138
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>>162681274
>Implying
Valve will just pull another Issue #6 (FUCKING WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN) and leave what could probably be developed into an interesting character, and then a possibility hero in the dust while they work on the huge meme that is VR.
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>>162681182
Theres the issue of not losing the game first because you have a support/roaming CK
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>>162681381
>wind lace
>oov
>skill jingu
>win every lane simultaneously
I SEE THE LIGHT
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Monkey Kang just needs a bit tweaking and he will be balanced

>Boundless Strike CD to 28 seconds
>Tree Dance having 20 mana cost and scaling cast range of 400/500/600/700
>Primal Spring reduced 100/160/220/280
>Jingu Mastery has either a time limit for the buff(12 seconds) or the marker when he hits the hero(like Ursa, 8 seconds)
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>>162681451
...which is strong as fucking fuck? people went support weaver and PA for god's sake

remember that now his blink is reliable -armor
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>>162681274
PLEASE LET IT HAPPEN

>>162681431
Is that the TF2 thing? Holy shit it's taken ages
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why nobody is discussing how broken new techies is
he has 525 magic damage at level two, somewhat unreliable, but works well with any disable
no hero ever comes close to this damage, for example in previous patches CM was one of the best in that contest and she can only deal 250 magic damage
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>>162681582
aw shiet i forgot about the -armor
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>>162681481
you don't even need lvl1 passive, the slow is pretty good coupled with any setup and the mobility lets you get intel and do supporty stuff

here's how you do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEgIKPUDzOo
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>monkey king is banned every single match

cool, didnt want to play the new hero anyway
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>>162681570
thats too much, it needs tweaking to make his mid and late game better but his early not stupidly OP

Give the passive some time limit, and and scaling to the stun so X/X/X/200% crit, but also lower cooldown than 25 at level 4
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>>162681570
completely wrong and retarded, problem with Q is not the cooldown, its the damage
make the damage crit scaling and lower the cooldown
godamm mongoloid
that way its not as fucktard overpowered laning but decent late game
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>>162681623
Yea, and no, it's not gonna happen.
And I doubt the 4th Spirit is happening either, at least in 2017.

Or most likely have her as a little cameo/easter egg in a comic where she gets killed by a stray arrow
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>Tusk + Techies combo is even deadlier now because of Proxy Mine's higher damage and that gap closer Blast Off
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>dota is such shit now, it's turned into league of the storm
>i'm gonna go play league/hots instead
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>>162680708
icefrog made monkey king a long long time ago

although i think icefrog's hero ideas have been going downhill over the years
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>>162680896
>only 10.5k people online
alright lads what else do I play
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>>162681807
now hear me out here
this is my current free MMR strat
techies visage offlane
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Is monkey king goodUrsa?
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>>162681935
better than boring shit like VS
>>
worst hero of the patch
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>>162681909
it's hilarious when people actually do that only to return since they get to see how bad those games are and how good dota is
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>>162682067
6 treants
>>
tfw comfy watching 9 hrs of purge
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wat build on new treatn?

i got top kills with just blink one time and it felt like a waste of his potential to keep building just supp stuff
also i was pretty much usless come endgame and that sucked since i was the only one doing anything and now i just couldnt i did like 100 damage to people with 3K + health
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>>162681948
oh god

>start casting akbar
>extended stun with stone form
>akbar hits perfectly
>finish with soul assumption

it's pure evil
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>>162681351
icefrog hasn't worked at valve for a few years now
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>>162681796
>Or most likely have her as a little cameo/easter egg in a comic where she gets killed by a stray arrow

That would make me legitimately mad I think
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>>162682067
arc
seriously what are you supposed to do with him now
he's such a hot mess
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>>162682134
>not watching 4 hour Bulldog analysis
>actually tests out new stuff in client
>has a giggle at the talents as opposed to droning on about "Wow, this is actually huge for this hero. This means..."

I don't see it mane
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>>162681209
By being a genuinely good person and being encouraging and listening to the advice of those smarter than I am. That game behind the summary; I was Techies

I'm also chill as fuck, and haven't tilted once. You need to let go, man. Just enjoy the game It also helps if you pick support because nobody else wants to. Dazzle a best, chill gameplay, life saving graves. Literally MLG the support [/spoiler]. I also have 62 commends collected over the course of 52 games.

In the words of a Russian: Why u hef tu be med, is only a gaem
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Anyone care about WCA happening in 2.5hrs?
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>>162677296
that is not the point (not the poster from >>162676380 here)
point is, why the fuck remove an option that doesn't bother anyone and works perfectly. if only 2 percent of players use it that is enough
i don't even use it and i'm disguisted by it's removal
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>>162682067
invoker

what's the point of invoker now

they even nerfed the invoke manacost so you can't even do shit early
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>>162682265
i watched that when the patch dropped
>>
5% spell amp or 12 strength on leshrac?
also how good is the improved edict talent?
is it good enough to always skip the second one for it?
3 sec 75% aoe slow seems beastly against the right teams
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>>162682147
get echo sabre
mash his face in out of nowhere
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>>162676505
yeah i'm straight up not playing until atleast the HUD gets exceptionally better. everything else is shit too, but this one is the tipping point
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>>162682178
it's just as devilish as you think
>enemy lifestealer
>allahu ackbar
>can't rage
>le birds
>collect free MMR
don't tell anyone
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>>162682246
>Tempest Double no longer copies consumables (includes Bottle)
this kills the zet
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>>162682147
Was his aghs changed?
get midas radiance aghs octameme refresher
magic tree all jungle camps and wave equilibrium points
claim all the farm
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>>162682293
you have 77 hours of dota 2.

stop.
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>>162673093
>>>162661038(Cross-thread)
thanks for linking prev thread
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>>162682387
i think strength, he is pretty squishy and should be in the center of the fights for the most times
slow is better since diabolic falls off pretty quickly and bkbs become shorter by your lvl 25
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>>162682585
i'm actually paranoid about visage since he's so strong now and leddit will probably cause him to get the ES treatment.
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>>162682415
thx bae

>>162682698
thx bae

and dunno about aghs. i only played him like once before the rework because he was so absurdly boring
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Can someone confirm if valve insider bro called the talent system and shit? Cause if so, didn't he also say the frog was leaving us?
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>ARTEEZY BURNED HIS FAKE YEEZY'S AFTER KANYE MET WITH TRUMP

WHAT A BITCH NIGGA
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>>162682754
same
I'm going to spam him while I can
forever in my heart
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>~45 fps with dx11
>~30 with vulkan
I thought my study break would go a lot better
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>>162682387
I prefer the strength since lesh does enough damage already and he's a squishy motherfucker
Both the slow and the edict talents are good, take edict if you really need to kill towers
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>>162682709
I can't, and won't. Valve killed off tf2, and now I need to find another game to keep me from killing myself. Dota filled that niche quite nicely as it allows me to hate myself but gives my life enough meaning as not to end it all.
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>>162682246
The same as before
Now, lets see arc warden nerfs and how hard he got ACTUALLY hit

>spark wraith no longer flying vision but ground
Ok, thats big but not THAT big, and it was fucking bullshit before since you cant just juke him out of it
>flux cast range -100
Not a big deal either, yeah, fucks a little his laning phase but the range is still high enough, and slows/damage for the same amount
>tempest no longer duplicates consumables
Necessary because it was bullshit. Now he can be a normal hero that regens with bottle and in fountain/shrine, like every other hero does
>tempest double cd from 40/35/30 to 60/50/40
Now, this is the real nerf. This hits him hard, and now he cant just cast it and fuck around, he will have to choose the situations to cast it and not just cast it to "midas"
>tempest double from 160 to 180
Not a big deal since most AW players already were careful enough when the first bounty was added. Not that the clone dies a lot in early and mid game, anyway.
>tempest double now decreases bkb charges when use it
Good, necessary because it was bullshit too. And a lot of AW players dont even use BKB that much either, they just use it to do some ridiculous split push without any risk
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>>162682915
fair enough

have fun
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>>162682782
aghanim's overgrowth in eyes of the forest radius does like 175dps
throw in a refresher and it's a cool 1500 damage
just stealth near your team and throw a tree up when a fight starts
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LIST OF FREE MMR HEROES:
>timber
>treant
>crystal maiden
>lycan
>omniknight
>necrolyte

feel free to expand the list
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>>162683065
V I S A G E
I
S
A
G
E
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>>162682915
I used to play TF2 religiously and I already have more hours in Dota 2.

Welcome to the abyss.
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I NEED WARD SPOTS NOW
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>>162674649
>4channers
wish i wasnt
>People born before 1995
1993
>Hardcore Gamers
Hardest of cores
>First Worlders
Does sweeden cunt?
>Men (not nu-males)
wtf is a nu-male? fight me in dark souls fgt

patch is mostly good
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>>162683065
ck support
rush aghs
use it on your carry
gg
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>5 minutes into Purge's Patch Analysis
>"Holy fuck CM gets +50 damage? That's so good it's so broken."
I don't think I can make it guys, this guy's a real fucking idiot.
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>>162683065
monkey
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>>162680118
>can literally one-shot supports from fog
>balanced
You'd have to be some kind of idiot to not get at the bare minimum 10 kills in the first 20 minutes of the game.
You could remove his ultimate and he'd still be broken.
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The monkey king voice acting is great

Why the fuck were him and Broodmother a thing though?
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>>162683201
What does he think about Lich's +150
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>>162683065
most offensive supports since getting XP is retard simple and you will literally always have inventory space for wards and smokes
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>>162682980
The fun died after I transitioned from bots to real players. There is no fun here, only the small lapses of joy after winning a game

>>162683135
are you me? I finally snapped after 1k hours, but I still enjoy it on occasion. Even if casual is broken, and script kiddies and code injectors run rampant
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>>162683181
>kill the illusions like you kill CK illusions
LOL
and its not that big since CK illusions have mobility thanks to reality rift, the hero casted on illusions dont.
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>>162683317
he unironically endorsed core lich
suggested MoM
jokingly suggested support liches buy a casual moon shard at level 20 now
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>>162683201
>he doesn't want all those reliable last hits
>he doesn't get at least 5 right clicks in teamfight as CM
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>>162674649
Reddit has done nothing but sob about how shit the patch is.

Go back.
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>>162683405
>right-clicking as a hero with 1.6 AGI gain

Yeah, maybe one whole right click during the whole team fight
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>>162683181
>luna with manta + sd + ck illusions
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>>162680115
let's imagine a situation
i'll fuck your GF's teeth up with a steel pipe. don't complain, just wait. look at her for a month. you will love her. she will look like pudge.
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>remove monkeys cooldown on climbing down trees
>add a 1,5 sec to get down instead
>jumping from tree to tree has a 4 sec cooldown instead of 3
there fixed the hero
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Everyone seems to be instantly picking monkey kang because such a fun hero that actually does 1600 dps to a single target when six slotted. But I don't get to play him much because faggots buy the arcana and spam the console command to play him. Too bad all the other heroes are so boring that it kills me. How do you guys work up the willpower to play something other than KANG right now?
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>>162682915
Just start powerlifting. It's like fucking crack and it forces you to eat and sleep well. And you know you can't go getting depressed and shit because that will affect your testosterone levels and your lifts.
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>>162683527
*autistic medusa screeching
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why are visage birds so tanky now
they're insane
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>>162683612
by picking visage offlane or mid
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>>162683531
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>>162683531
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>>162683371
Reality rift works with the aghs ulti illusions
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>>162680118
he needs

*less range. its basically ranged hero level.
*passive nerf. the duration of the stacks is absurdly long and the damage is so high if he gets 3 stacks on you you pretty much have to run away early game or die
*his stun is a faster tremor that bypasses evasion and crits for free. remove the crit.
*he has a free to use escape that forces the enemy to spend gold to counter it even though he doesn't even have to spend mp and he can even use items, stun you and get a new move as a reward for using it. its also way too good for the cost of a single point in the early game

so basically everything except ult

ult is fine
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>>162683181
I played against a support CK. It was actually really effective, but he still lost miserably because alch is too strong if you don't pretend to be badnaga.
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wth happened to unranked
over 50% of my games are 5 stack vs 1/1/1/1/1 or 5 stack vs 2/1/1/1 now
its just 5 stack after 5 stack after 5 stack, and its never 4+1 vs 5
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>>162683527
Free gold for aghs bloodstone pugna
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>>162683270
Outside of the War of the Ancients, Monkey King is completely immortal.
He's been around a long time, perhaps fucking a spider felt like an interesting change.
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>>162682845
There's a thread on leddit pretty much stating the patch shits all over your CPU.
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>>162683671
EIGHTY PERCENT DAMAGE REDUCTION
I
G
H
T
Y

P
E
R
C
E
N
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1000HP PER BURD
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>>162683605
>free rapier, daedelus, and satanic
>nerf free smoke a little
hmm
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>>162683732
>*he has a free to use escape that forces the enemy to spend gold to counter it
his W isn't really an escape any more than a blink dagger is
if he jukes you for 4 seconds he can leap away, or if you try to chase him and he sees you coming he can leap away
but just tapping him with an orb of venom turns it off for 7 seconds
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>>162674649
>4channers
now you're just being autistic
>People born before 1995
1979 ama
>Hardcore Gamers
I play dwarf fortress and enjoy it.
>First Worlders
Is Jacksonville, Florida first world enough for you?
>Men (not nu-males)
I was married, but divorced in 2003 because she was screwing around behind my back.

I enjoy this patch, the UI need some fixing, but it's nice nonetheless.
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>>162680118
>ravage at 25 cd with 300% crit

NOT BROKEN LOL
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>>162683745
Alch is the strength AM. Not the strength naga. I hope pros will build mjolnir basher ac/shivas from now on.
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>>162676830
With all this fuckenings going on, who does Techies fuck/had fuck
inb4 the 9 other players
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>>162683865
Are millennials as lazy as people say?
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>>162683757
My Visage win streak was killed (still went 5/3/3 tho) because of this 2-stack of fucking idiots that did nothing but wander around aimlessly together and feed. I was in a 2-1-2 lobby. And very pissed.
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>>162683757
>he plays this game outside of a 5 stack
That's depressing. I always play with someone else. Even if it's random shitters from /vg/
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>>162683936
>no random 4th item butterfly to fuck over people struggling to keep up with you
>no bkb
shit build
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>>162680231
From what?

Also someone want to tell me the build? I haven't had a chance to play him yet
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>>162676336
>>162676128
>>162675952
Holy fuck you fags give me source right now
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>>162683531
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>>162683065
CM is only free mmr in low brackets

under 2k her winrate is 60% but 2-3k it drops to 55%

3k and up she is around 50%
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>>162683959
more or less, but this trend of "fuck you, got mine" started with my generation being shitty parents. It's also partially the Mormon's fault yes, really
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>>162684081
Building bkb before you are 3 slotted means you essentially lost the game.
Winter said this. He's a former pro and I believe him.
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>>162683943
Techies is great against Visage because his Q is now solely for defense and his other three skills now work on birds.

Please beat as many Visage players as you can to keep his winrate down.
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>>162684141
And them it rises to 55% at 5k again xD
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>>162683864
early on when people mostly poke with normals and he's likely fighting melee heroes (who he both out ranges and damages at the same time regardless of who he fights or what items they have) he can pop it when he sees allies coming to rescue them from the bs that is his passive and there is nothing most people can realistically do early game without spending gold when they cant afford to just to try to catch him

there is no way it should cost 0 mana. none. at all.

this isnt even mentioning how good it is offensively when ambushing and how he can just jump past towers
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Really makes the ole' neurons activate.
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Since reddit is complaining about the UI we should get some changes to it, the question iss how long do you guys think it will take?
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>>162683865
Best lesson learned in life so far?
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Holy shit the lvl 25 veno wards are disgusting.
And he has the +20% exp gain talent so he can reach max level relatively quickly compared to other heroes even if he has lower farm priority.
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Newfag here. So how are the drops in this game? What are my chances of getting a cool set for a hero?
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>>162683531
jark?
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>>162684141
3k has lower win rate because they are 2ks with better mechanical skill; they are still too stupid to survive, but enemies are better at killing squishy heroes that are too stupid to survive.
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>>162684223
Isn't visage shit? His cloak still dies to 4 rightclicks from level 1 heroes.
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>>162684384

you're better off buying boxes.
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>>162684334
>wahh why dont the ui take up half the screen
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Reddit is complaing about the HUD

we need to like it, people
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>insatiable hunger is no longer dispellable
who here has played omni solo lane against brood?
i've done it a few times in my life, having him use his ulti only to repel him is the best feeling in life
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>>162684204
Depends on the enemy comp. You can delay it sometimes but if they have too much magic or disables you have to build one so you can start winning fights and taking objectives. On alch sometimes skadi or heart +-armlet is a good enough substitute for it, but I turned many games from a, "I am getting good gpm," to a, "my team is dominating," on an third item bkb useage.
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>>162684334
Why in the fuck wasn't this done? Fucking retards working at volvo it seems.

Also the map changes are atrocious, the worst part about this patch is honestly the map. It has the league of legends layout now, no space just corners and trees instead of "bushes". There's a reason I quit that shit game
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>>162684334
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>>162684384

Nonexistant.
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>>162684384
as high as your chances of getting laid lmao
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>>162684334
>Change the HUD because it was "hiding a lot of information"
>Completely remove stats, exp bar and the ability to gather information from enemies in the process
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>>162684554
>>162684493
>the new hud is as good or better than the old one

Someone's gotta explain this to me
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>>162684452
>isn't visage shit
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stuns that pierce bkb should not exist. They're broken as fuck and unfun
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>>162684664
ez replys
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>>162684486
would not recommend I have a terrible gambling problem and will keep buying shit as long as I have money on my Steam account with the same retarded "it's only 3€ so it's fine" logic.
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>>162684727
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>>162684727

Learn to:
-manta dodge
-not position like a mouthbreather
-not have abysmal coordination with teammates
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>>162684727
hi lolfagot
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>>162684384
HAHAHAHA
good fucking joke anon
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/D2G/ approved canonical guide to monkey king:

>to pick him before anyone else, spam "dota_select_hero npc_dota_hero_monkey_king" into your console when the hero screen pops up

1: E
2: Q
3: E
4: W
5: E
6: R
7: E
8-9: W
10: +5 armor talent
11: W
12: R
13-14: Q
15: +275 HP talent
16: Q
18: R
20: +40 damage talent
25: +100% crit talent

starting items tangos/stout/oov
get boots, pms -> phase boots
Core items in order:
>Echo Sabre
>Basher
>BKB
Situational items:
>Skadi
>SnY
>Blademail
>Linkens
>Satanic
>Euls
>Manta
>Mjollnir
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>>162684374
It may sound obvious, but being nice to those around you makes life one hell of a lot easier. You make friends, and those friends help you find more friends that may or may not have low effort high pay office jobs that keep you well fed and happy for ten plus years.
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So what games are you guys migrating to? Need a new game
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WHY THE FUCK IS THE BUYBACK BUTTON ABOVE THE HERO PORTRAT WHERE THE SKILL UP BUTTON USED TO BE I'VE BOUGHT BACK BY MISTAKE TWICE ALREADY
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How do get farmed as pugna with low farm priority? That also goes for puck. I have no idea how to play intelligence heroes that don't right click creeps all the time.
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Game is fun now for supports. With talents, bountys and kill shitfest you can have some items. Even when i wasn't doing shit I got Aether, Blink, Forcestaff and Eul in like 30 min on Rubick.
It's kinda nice but need to be nerfed.
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hey guys, what are the best heroes in the new patch for dumpstering the shitstains
also is it just me or is having a dedicated jungler actually just the way to go now
ALSO slardars new model is fucking sexy
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>>162684960
Spam Q on creeps
Push towers
Kill fuckers
Deathball
Bounty runes
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>>162685046
Just the backpack makes support life ezpz. Everything else is like a cherry on top
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>>162684941
You clicked skill points? I'm afraid to say that you deserve it then, anon.
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/b/b6/Monkey_rival_103.mp3
>You (Medusa) and Zeus deserve each other.
Zeus, the whole point of you fighting was to earn a place back in Heaven.
You got banished for the exact reason of fucking someone else.
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>>162684960

If you play Pugna as something below position 2 your income is entirely dependent on fights and towers. I don't like offlane Puck precisely because he can't really farm anything other than mid.
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where were you when Valve shit themselves?
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>>162676950
bind a specific key for non quickcast
that way you can doubletap
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Well dang. Seems some shit happened since I was gone. Anything besides the newest update that I should be aware of?

Also: Do you get a reward for completing the new tutorial thing? Or can I ignore it?
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>>162684890
Amazing. We should make steam guides for every hero desu.
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>>162684452
Not necessarily. Unless you have Break, his layers are constantly regenerating even while taking damage. This means most right click heroes will still have a hard time against him 1v1; it will take you way too long to remove the layers and do kill damage to him. You could easily pick Troll Warlord to counter this... but then you'll be playing Troll Warlord.
Also, the removal threshold was buffed to 50, so most early DoT spells won't even remove a layer. You can just sit in shrapnel while you deny gunmidget his farm.
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>>162684089
source is my butt
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>>162684334
Why the fuck do we need a talent tree?
For all the stuff that's getting relegated to the alt key, why can't talents be hidden by default and then hitting alt brings it out of the side of the face portrait or something?
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>>162684890
What if I buy sabre before phase boots?
Necro isn't that bad on monkey because you can't rely on your team to push for fucking shit no matter how many times you pick off enemy heroes.
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>>162685079
Looks like deathballing and pushing is the only thing.

>>162685131
You can't really pick fights as pugna if you're under leveled or don't have level 6. Same goes for puck.
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>>162685128
It was a habit from before the UI upgrade
>be in teamfight
>level up
>die without using levels because I didn't notice in the heat of battle
>see the notification above my hero
>calmly click the button and level up since i am dead anyway so leveling up fast doesn't make any difference
I've also bought back by mistake because I wanted to center the camera on where I died so I tried clicking my portrait and misclicked buy back
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>>162685341
Because then you wouldn't know at a glance what talents enemies have...

but you still have to hover over the tree to see which exact one they picked, unless you memorized every fucking tree
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>>162685207
Also, Cloak now blocks ALL damage, not just physical and magical. Pure damage used to be an issue for him, now he doesn't give a fuck.
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>>162685408
in that case just get desolator
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>>162685438
>he hasn't memorized every talent tree

what are u some sort of casul
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I feel like no matter how hard i try i just dont get better. I play against people who havent played nearly as much as me and yet they are far better than I ever will be. It feels like my only purpose in dota is to be a failure so that other people may win and feel good about theirselves.
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>>162685164
50 USD for the whole Mankey Kang collection (dynamic cosmetic set is pretty fucking swell though)

No reward for completing the tutorial Valve is retarded, what did you expect

and when did you leave, we've gotten three new heros: Arc Warden, Underlord and Monkey King. Riki finally stabilized into a shit hero with the best aoe spell in the game, techies was nerfed to shit but recently reworked to actually be useful now. Silver Edge, Dagon, Veil, Mana and Tranquil boots, Soul ring and Heart if you have the cash. Fuck R max E first then Q and W
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>mfw playing visage now
that familiar damage buff holy shit
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>>162684890
this is so fucking wrong
why would you get phase over treads
why wouldnt you even consider battlefury or desolator in your item build, or give a set item order to important items like bkb
why would you want euls on monkey king
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>>162684890
my build is almost the same, skip w unless i really need it for whatever reason, the attack speed talent over armour, max e and q before getting a single point in w unless i need it, maelstrom first item for farming into echo sabre
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>>162685454
Nice. I'll start learning visage now. I was looking for an interesting hero to play considering everyone seems to be playing KANG and I've seen every other hero played dozens of times to the point where I don't want to pick them.
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>>162685529
I will kill 3 then have to solopush highground because all the russians have crawled out of their mushroom beer cellars to jungle for 50 minutes with support heroes. I feel a lot safer with necro.
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>Play a bot match to practice Monkey King
>Even on the laning stage, it dips to 40 FPS
>Late fights are a laggy mess

Okay, no, seriously. It's fucking unplayable.
How did they not do any regression testing? They had four fucking months
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>>162685149
How can you do that?
Is there a key option for disabling your quickcast now?
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>>162685629
charge time from 15 sec to 2

holy shet
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>>162685046
Yep carryin clarity with you is always nice.
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>>162685438
well then instead of a fucking tree just have 4 boxes that come from the side of the portrait stating +10 ATK or +15 STR or whatever.
To say that the new design was focused at minimalism having this pointless graphic of a tree that tells you fucking nothing is the antithesis of minimalism.
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Welp, i dont mean to sound like a redditor or angry old dota 1 autist but there is something wrong with this game and it has nothing to do with "lol learn to play the patch n00b"

i played 7 games already and after getting over the initial patch learning curve the game just feels clumsy as fuck anyways. Nevermind the fact that the UI is a complete eyesore and a bad carbon copy of league of babies.The exp and gold changes make it so that dota as we knew it is basically dead and what you have is this new game mode that is essentially all random all mid with heroes just chasing each other's tails 24/7 with no real objective or purpose in the game and no real consequences for it because muh infinite sustain and because everyone is guaranteed levels and gold anyways.

The loading screen isn't helping either was the idea of this patch supposed to turn this game into literally Super Smash Brothers with dota heroes? LOLAand for whatever reasons the towers and barracks feel a lot weaker in terms HP and armor, taking them down is much easier and this game overall has come to resemble that of the other dying MOBA too much for my liking.

This wouldn't be the first time something like this ever happened either. You all remember back when the frog introduced the rubber band mechanic and it was fucking retarded with infinite gold bounties on ending streaks and ridiculous exp swings. It seems like valve took a JUST approach to this patch and applied every change imaginable at random without any idea of how the game would change as a result. This patch makes valve seem like they are running out of ideas for DOTA but whats more concerning is that everyone is collectively trying out the game for a bit and dropping it shortly after.

Dota was ok for a while guys but its all downhill from here. I don't blame you guys for jumping ship its actually the least retarded thing D2G has ever done. INB4 "see you next week".
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>>162685438

You could just display enemy talent when you click them and hover over their portrait. That's essentially what you have to do now.
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>play tusk
>use q with cursor right over someone
>it pushes them out of the trap 9 times out of 10
literally never happened before this update
what the shit
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>>162685632
deso isn't good, bfury is retarded and gimmicky on kang
you want phase because it gives +damage, also it's cheaper
kang is BetterEmber, but with the obvious differences you can tell why bfury is less useful on him
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>>162685697
no

but there is an enable button to separate quick cast and manual cast

lurk more on the client :^)
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/9/91/Monkey_rival_172.mp3

what did they mean by this? :thinking:
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>>162685648
Good time to learn. Visage's birds have flying vision, so just keep a spare Tango in your backpack.
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>>162685584
Seen arc warden but never played him I guess is when I left. Don't have 50USD by a long shot, Dynamic cosmetic sounds cool though, techies can get fucked, sad about rikki, used to pick him non stop when I was a new little shitter. (moved on to be a shit BH who build BF but 4chan thought me to to build drums and decent items)
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>>162684334
>minimap on the left

Why the fuck people play with the Minimap on the left? It is so bad, in my opnion. I could never navigate the shop when he was in the left.
Changing their positions just did the trick.
The minimap makes more sense when it is on the right and the shop in the left.
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>>162685632
>why would you get phase over treads
Because MK has trouble catching people and get those 4 hits before the slow from the leap runs off
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>>162685937
subtle kek
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>>162685937
>even Valve bully arteezy
his career his a meme
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>>162683865
>I play dwarf fortress and enjoy it.

He forgot to add
>plays dorf fort with lazy newb pack

to the people who like this patch, you faggot.

Also condolences on getting cucked, friend.
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>>162685581
son just try not to die and ur like better than most people

also whine less
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>>162685743
yea but its literally a talent TREE hahahah get it?
None of the talents actually do anything meaningful but hey its so important to have it xd
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>that lycan change

holy shit d2g?
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forgot to post this pic related
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>>162685776
nah youre right this patch is fucking weird
the resulting game may be fun. and have a lot of replayability
but its also not really dota
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>>162685937
what does
>:thinking:
mean
>>
>>162685958
oh, and HotD is Olddrums. New drums are shit now. Bracer spam may or may not be back. Baumi has some good videos on what the heck happened this patch
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>>162685809
It happens to me but not much, its just shards coding i guess
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>>162686065
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Is kangs skill set what it is supposed to be?
I was expecting more illusions considering how he's known for creating illusions out of his hair.
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From my consensus my active dota2 friends list (the type to play 5-8 games a day) don't like it, the ones that do are the type to casually play 4-5 games a week. Looks like dota just fucked themselves with this one.
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>FDL vs TF
>We are back to LET THE BODY HIT THE RAX mode
ARE YOU HAPPY NOW RETARDS?
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>>162686094
hmm really makes you think...
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>>162685776
>the game just feels clumsy as fuck anyways
I don't know why but I feel this too. I don't have any dislike for most of the changes but I feel so clumsy playing now and I cant specify why.

Regardless I'm not gonna stop playing, I only play in a 5stack with friends and it's all good fun. Few games let's you have that combination of serious and stupid fun at the same time.
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>>162686104
hmmm excellent analysis anon
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>>162686042
towers are made of paper now
the offlane tower is like a free 200g pinata when you hit level 6
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>people who like the patch
>you
>reddit
>women
>children
>babbies
>chinks

>people who think it's shit
>me
>white and based patricians
>autists
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>>162686097
Would be kinda dumb to gut illusions then have the new hero an illusion hero, desu.
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>>162686042
Is that the top level of play?
This means lycan and visage are actually OP now. I did face two lycans today that did enormous damage ate towers
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>>162686097
they had to make it a bit different since this guy already exists
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>>162686042
>weaver and LD winrates going up
STAHP
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fixed the ui
no problem
valve plz hire me im good at fixing things
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People were memeing so hard but after actually playing myself I noticed that I never looked at the kill feed and gold with the shit new ui. Suddenly 1.5k g to spend early on tier 2 boots or 3k mid game ona any item, whereas before I pretty much spent the gold whenever I could afford something.

I hate this the gold location.
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Faster lvl gain, tomes, 4 bounty runes, gpm/xpm talents...it's so easy to get gold and exp now that reaching critical items/levels doesn't feel very rewarding.
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The game feels unplayable to me. It's the map, all the runes, all the hills, the layout of jungle, the shrines, the rosh pit. Jesus this game sucks now.

And it isn't the fucking UI. If you disable "Simple map" and enable "Unit query overrides hero control console" then it looks almost the same as before.
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reminder that our guy Zai is open to change

https://twitter.com/zai_2002/status/808022082491711488
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>>162685963
It was on the left in WC3
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>>162686302
>map on the right
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/f/f0/Monkey_rival_202.mp3

just going through MK's reponses. will post any interesting ones here.
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>>162686309
Yep. This and HP and MP bar below skills is most annoying.
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>>162686302
i didn't know there was a worse one
the only thing that needs to be changed is to make the timer at the top of the screen more unclear, like removing the sun and moon symbols
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>>162685632
because +24% movespeed and phasing lets you land 4 hits more easily than +38% attack speed
you need to chase people with phase + oov to get more morespeed than them
if you just have attack speed, you'll land 1 attack and they'll walk away and you won't land another
>why would you want euls on monkey king
so you can euls yourself during your ultimate when the enemy team tries to focus you down
the enemy team has two options when MK ults, they can either run out of the circle or burst him down
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>>162686258
no

i briefly checked the overall playerbase since the 5k meta is going to take awhile before the meta settle

also most high mmr dont queue with all the players from break
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>>162686097
It's alright.
Tree hopping could have been replaced with something to do with the cloud though.
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>>162686437
>have dominant right eye
>not having crucial information on the right
eeeh dotard?
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>Reminder that inability to adapt, emotionally or physically, implies shitty genes because the ability to adapt was detrimental to survival.
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>>162686264
man he got buttfucked again

just fuck illusions up lmao
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>>162686167
playing with friends has always been really appealing for dota and im sure that won't change but trying out solo games and MMR grinding everything just feels really random and pointless. I have to actively remind myself that this is a game of dota every time I play but to be honest idk wtf this is anymore. Im just baffled and the more I play the more confused I am as to what this game really is but the answer is certainly not dota
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>>162686330
Right? You completely butchered the entire map. The same player base that would of noticed a different tree placed in a patch 3 years ago. It really just rewards lazy gaming.
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>Split push Lycan
Jesus Christ no, Its back.
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>>162686675
>the ability to adapt was detrimental to survival
?
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>>162686675
reminder that fatass dotard literally posted this and pat himself on the head for being a "superior being" or something who cares
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>checking spawn boxes and tower range with alt
>random shit popping up that should be there in the first place

LOL
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>>162686757
Thats a good thing tho ya dingus
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>>162686757
He can fight effectively for the duration of his bkb and then go split push
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>>162686167
>>162685776
Stop switching between DotA and LoL then? your literally just complaining about turn speed to which LoL has literally zero.
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>>162686675
I don't know why but your post and that image really made me laugh, thanks anon
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>>162686330

I've never had so much fun playing a support in any patch. The game has way less time spent on stacking, static farming and pulling which was never particularly engaging . Now it's 24/7 roamfest and I buying aghs on a support feels doesn't feel like a game losing move.
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>>162686835
how exactly is splitpush Lycan a good thing?
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>>162686698
yeah hes my favorite hero. im a bit sad he isnt getting much love and diffusal blade's mana burn just keeps getting lower. also apparently illusions created from his lance or doppleganger give the full exp/gold bounty of illusions. only illusions created from juxtapose give the 5 xp/gold. pretty bad considering what his new aghs do and the fact that illusions created from his spirit lance arent that much any stronger from the juxtrapose ones
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>2151 hours in team fortress 2
>valve ruined it
>history with wc3 dota
>3437 hours in dota 2
>valve ruined it
remember when valve werent the devil?
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>>162686887
Supports were never meant to be goldless bitches anyway. They were to supposed to provide assistance and crowd control.
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where da monkeyking copy pasta
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/8/84/Monkey_ally_91.mp3
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/db/Monkey_ally_92.mp3
MONKEY KING X LINA IS CANON
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/8/84/Monkey_ally_91.mp3
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/db/Monkey_ally_92.mp3
MONKEY KING X LINA IS CANON
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/8/84/Monkey_ally_91.mp3
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/db/Monkey_ally_92.mp3
MONKEY KING X LINA IS CANON
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Why is CM so good in the new jungle? It's the OP +50 damage talent, right?
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>>162686972
No?

Don't you remember how BAD early steam was?
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>>162686972
yup, back when games were a labor of love, not profit.
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>>162687048
>https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/8/84/Monkey_ally_91.mp3
APED
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>>162686330
Wish disabling the new analyse thing would also remove the infuriating morphing shit the box does when switching to hero with more abilities.

At least make couriers and buildings the same size as a 4 ability hero? What were they thinking?
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>>162686972
when did valve ruin tf2?
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QUICK

DOES SHADOWBLADE BACKSTAB APPLY ON MONKEY KING'S Q
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>>162687048
Why does lina is a kang burner?
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>>162687048
if this was enough to make someone x someone canon, Kotl would have a canon harem
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>>162687048
monkey king just wants the hot puss m8, he aint hit it yet

if anything, its him fucking CM that should be asked, considering he says if CM has talked about him to lina
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>>162686945
there was an anon here that got 80% winrate with him and can still make him work sometime
are you that guy

just fuck icefraud imma autistically wreck shitters with lycan now
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>>162687048
where are you finding these, the wiki doesn't have them up for me

>>162687116
This July, with the botched MyM, and before that with the gutted EoTL update
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this is weird thing to say but i think if there is one thing the dota community has over league of legends, it's that it easily has the best fucking memes
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>>162687176
>implying he doesn't.
BITCHES. LOVE. MANA.
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>teamfight
>everyone crashes
truly epic valve.
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>>162686875
i havent played inferior moba in years. Dunno where you read that anything like that in my post but I certainly didn't say or suggest it. The comparison is that both games are supposed to be mobas and dota used to be good and the other one was bad but now its like they are both trashy in similar ways
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>>162687048
BMC how can white bois even compete
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I feel like I'm playing a completely different game than everybody else, after 15~ games it barely feels like anything has changed.
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mana regen on shrines has to go
and reduce the hp regen by half maybe

stash to INV cooldown should be increased to 10 seconds

UI is complete shit

mk does not need a 2 sec stun on his slam
ontop of it being longer than the actual range

client keeps crashing

UI is shit

turn rate feels really clunky now

everything else is kinda whatever. but this game has been casualized to shit
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>>162687116
>>162687227
tf2 was ruined when it went f2p, you cucks
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>>162687219
probably not. mines not 80, but still pretty high.
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>* Howl now behaves like a normal buff, rather than a pseudo aura

what does this mean?

tell me, d2g
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>>162683065
>necrolyte
is this a new hero?
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>>162686592
Wait does that even matter?
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>>162685776
It honestly feels like the owners of League bought Dota replaced icefrog and the devs. Completely shit out a LoL/SmashBrother/FPS pile of shit with the DOTA logo and heros. I'm honestly in complete shock. I have 3400 matches on my account. I played 5 games of 7.00 and I'm in such disbelief that they want to call that DotA.
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>>162687342
>cucks
hush and go back to /v/.

f2p helped if anything. 20 usd is still 20 usd, f2p is what allowed tf2 to last this long in the first place
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>>162684941
>accidentally hit button
>buy back with like 5 seconds on the clock
>just so happens teammate is getting ganked
>tp in
>get double kill
>don't look like a mongoloid
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>>162687108
Hey, so we took out elements of the HUD because they'll distract you from the fights

BUT CHECK OUT THIS COOL ASS EFFECT THAT MAKES SHIT THAT SHOULDNT MOVE MOVE LMAO
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>>162687378
kind of. Only reason I used the default left map was because valve was a lazy shit and just mirrored the UI, which looked weird as shit
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>>162687497
the shake on stun is pretty nice desu. Gives the stun more visual weight.
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>playing nyx
>solo vs monkey king
>let him proc his jingu on me
>activate carapace
>he stuns
pretty easy to be honest senpai
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>>162687227
TF2 was ruined over a long period of time that stopped around F2P. the updates after F2P were fucking horrible but the game was already dead so its not exactly ruining it
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>>162687075
yup, back when games were sloppily made and shipped out on cd roms with no update support, often shipping with broken firmware and OS-breaking glitches, as well as costing 90 shekels with demos only existing on demo disks, and steam at the time being a steaming pile of hot garbage that made playing PC games a chore.

"the good ol days"
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I'm supposed to be playing Game of war but this one player keeps kicking my ass
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>>162686051
You'll be back.
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>>162687030

Supports generally lack resources which makes the game generally less fun to play and this patch changes exactly that. I don't care if it isn't meant to be like this, it's a lot more enjoyable to do actual pvp than worry about creep equilibrium and getting scarce exp through pulling
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If you're going for dps on Monkey King, what is the focus? Damage or Attack Speed?

Your Q and R only benefit from damage
But then again your passive gets up quicker for a more powerful Q with attack speed.

Thoughts?
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>>162687416
Im sure Icefrog stopped balancing this game several patches ago and he has just been used as a scapegoat by valve since. What I think is happening is that they have a rotation of maybe 2-3 people making patches at random but with 7.00 they got rid of this group and just brought in ghostcrawler from WoW or some shit. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like guinsoo was brought in for this patch or some other random LoL dev.

Dota is just a mess right now and the fact that I can't tell peruvians apart from other players means this game is pretty fucked up ATM. Idk what needs to happen to fix it but its more than just a couple of simple number issues, dota as a whole is just something else right now and a couple of nerfs and buffs aren't going to make it that much more playable
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>>162687849
bump limit is 750 you stupid fuck
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>>162687786
back then that was their only option, and if they fucked up and released a buggy broken nonfunctional mess they'd go fucking bankrupt and get removed from existence, so they'd pay out the ass for quality assurance and quality beta testing to make sure everything isn't fucked
and it didn't cost any more today, and they weren't nickel and diming, dlc didn't exist only xpacks, and xpacks had to be huge and high quality or nobody would buy them and they'd go bankrupt
fuck you too
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>>162687786
>games were sloppily made and shipped out on cd roms with no update support, often shipping with broken firmware and OS-breaking glitches, as well as costing 90 shekels with demos only existing on demo disks, and steam at the time being a steaming pile of hot garbage that made playing PC games a chore

huh, that sounds an awful lot like 2015. Ever hear of No Man's Sky?
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>>162687346
yeah its you
pretty high

but the hero is an unpickable garbage right now
it hurts mane
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>>162686972
Gabe 'fat fuck' Newell worked for microsoft. The guy was never some benevolent person and only retarded 12 year old kids on /v/ liked him way back when, funnily enough now that reddit is popular they love him; I guess all the kids moved there.
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>>162687849
>80 early again
Fuck off
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/b/b8/Monkey_ally_117.mp3

I need a new pair of sided
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7.00
pick venge

rush aghs

everyone always fighting, harder to break base

just swap niggers and enjoy your free MMR
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>>162687901
echo sabre then all out dmg desu
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>>162684089
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>>162687227
I hated Gun Mettle overall.
I could get used to the taunts after a while, but Jesus Fuck. Why did they need to introduce skins, and moreover, UNUSUAL verisons of them? Your game is already performing like shit, and you just toss more on top of it
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>it's league wtf why did they turn this into league

i don't get it? It feels slightly faster but there's still turn rates, there's still denying, there's still secret shops, there's still fun and complex kits like invoker and doom, there's still all that fancy shit dota has

i think everyone is just exaggerating a little. the game isn't anywhere near fucking league of legends.
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>>162687901
phase + oov + blight stone
echo sabre
desolator
maelstrom
diffusal
basher
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>>162687962
at least the fatass had some good games under his banner, monetizing and monopolizing it sure but at least it was enjoyable
now valve has reached their logical endpoint however, steam is shit and all their games are shit
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>>162688007

That's probably for the best since Q + sabre and you're already at 3 hit.
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>>162688103
>complex
>doom, invoker

stopped reading there.
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>>162687982
Monkey King, you cheeky fucker.
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>>162686042
time to main vessej?
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>>162688049
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>>162684089
you can find the qop and cm one on r34
the other CM one wear she wears ears might also be on r34 but im not sure
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>>162688145

Can multiple lightnings proc from one Q?
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>>162688253
>a drawing

i dont think you understand how sex works
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>>162688272
No, but the monkey images can proc it
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>>162688157
What games again? He tried his fucking hardest to ruin Half Life and the rest were mods of his engine where he literally destroyed the mod teams like CS's.
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>>162688076
At this point it's unsalvageable. There is so much code from so many devs that it is literally indecipherable at this point, but money must be made, so they pile more on top with duct tape and hope. I'm still holding out for a Source 2 port ;_;
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>>162684334

nigger please

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5i6lzt/fixed_the_hud
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>>162687902
Your ghostcrawler/guinsoo reference is exactly what I'm trying to say. Icefrog left them with some ideas, they hired a new lead who took other game ideas from their experience and implemented them in DOTA. Dotas very nature prides itself on being the original its held the test of time for a reason. But this white wash of the map and skills and gold/exp was just atrocious.
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>>162687956
surprised you remembered. well according to the dotabuff trends, he's had a ~2% increase in winrate so maybe theres something im not seeing yet.
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I REQUIRE ILEXA ART
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Monkey King's lines are so good.
I love his super cocky attitude and how he pisses everyone off.
Also Zeus x Medusa is canon.
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>>162688159
nah man don't use your q for a shitty stack when that shit crits off of the bonus damage, you wanna try to get for stacks and use q whenever to finish the opponent off or at your 4th bonus damage hit at the latest

maybe get an sb for memes but I haven't tried this yet
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>>162688253
you need to take off your panties before you can get the dick Lina
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IT'S OVER LADS

DOTA IS FUCKING DEAD

THIS NUMBER WAS OVER +2% JUST A FEW DAYS AGO

IT ALREADY DROPPED A % FROM JUST SEVERAL HOURS AGO
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>>162687786
>sloppily made and shipped out on cd roms with no update support, often shipping with broken firmware and OS-breaking glitches, as well as costing 90 shekels
>in the early days of steam (~2005)
What the fuck was you buying in 2005 (or even post 1995) that cost 90 bucks and had no support whatsoever?
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>>162684664

that old hud makes the game really hard to get into because it makes the game feel very crowded. everything was too big and taking up too much space.

the new hud makes it feel much more open and isnt full of non essential information. i still agree we need a way of displaying our stats but stats arent essential to the game. you dont need to see what your strength agi and int are at any point you just want to.

this is another thing that will be great for dota because its lowering the skill floor so it makes it easier for more people to get into the game. for that purpose the new ui is vastly better.

if they displayed stats with alt and gave you an xp number when mousing over the xp circle it would fix our missing information from the old hud without over complicating it again.
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>>162688420

He's the gossiper that starts fights on class

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/3/31/Monkey_ally_212.mp3
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>>162684334
>>162688376
FUCK I want the glyph button back
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>>162688383
yeah cuz i argued with you back then with my 60 winrate and got butfucked when youposted that 70% lmao
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>>162688508
The voiceline work and the comics give me some hope for new heroes like the 4th Spirit or Ilexa.
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>>162688591
>new glyph button is so small I have a hard time clicking it
WHY ARE THEY MAKING THIS GAME HARDER
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>>162676083
>>noone plays it

its consistently the highest player count custom game, short of 10v10. i've never search for a game of overthrow that didn't pop almost immediately.
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Seems like there are exploitable crashes like the old venge crash a while back people are using to dodge losing games
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>>162688295
i said nothing about a drawing or having sex
???
>>162688431
are you sure about that akasha?
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>>162688786
yup well
thanks valve
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>>162688728
>Ilexa.

Pls valve
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>>162688441
HERE'S THE LINK: http://steamcharts.com/app/570

UNINSTALL NOW BEFORE YOU'RE QUEUING ALONE
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>>162688423

I can see that for late game.

For early game I feel like using the stun to land the nuke is better. You wont' even get to 4 for that.
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>>162688836
I want to bury my face is that Drow butt
>>
I hate this fucking game

I thought the new patch would change things but no, I'm still fucking usless and the worst player in my team in every single game. I swear to fucking god the game thinks I'm better than I am and it's just fucking shitty. Let me play with other shitters jesus fuck
>>
For you lore fags: MK proves that the 4th elemental spirit (earth, ember, storm) isn't already in the game (so its not Arc Warden or Enigma, for example)

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/0/04/Monkey_ally_169.mp3
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>>162688973
bury away
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>>162688750
Consistently highest player count for custom games that are played by more niche players. These players are the type to play 3-5 games of dota a week, want crazy stupid fast paced custom games for a reason. The other 80% of dota players play DOTA. What 7.00 released was a custom LoL mod catered for television and two games a night dads.
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>>162688995
what if the 4th spirit is female
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>>162688934
I've always queued alone though...

and in what universe is this a loss in players?
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>>162689118
>other brother

What if the 4th is trans?
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>>162688995
well, we still need a water spirit
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>>162689172
It's a huge loss on the year, the game has stagnated and is now threatening to tank completely.
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>>162688980
>I swear to fucking god the game thinks I'm better than I am and it's just fucking shitty. Let me play with other shitters jesus fuck
Might help to play on a fresh account for a while.
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>>162688995
Earth, Storm, Ember, ______

Fill it in fags
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>>162689214
about damn time Valve began representing the full spectrum of genders
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>>162689267
looks like normal veriation to me. You need to leave 1999, man. Y2K was a bust and nothing happened
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>>162689281
I've been using the same account since 2004, I'm not about to change. I just want to be with other people who such as much as me. If only there was a way to do that.
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okay i'm absolute shit at this but i put together my idea for a hud that's probably the best of both worlds. shit is big enough to see and i'm pretty sure i got everything that's obscured by holding down ALT.
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>>162689395
looks like shit
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>>162689306
storm is a mix of water air and lightning so i have no fucking idea what the last could be. could just be water.
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>>162689395
All of the stats should be in the same place
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>>162689384
Well, if you don't want to play on another account for a while, your only other option is to continue losing games until your MMR goes down to where you think it should be.
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>>162688980

It will get better
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>>162689306
Ocean
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>>162688973
yes this is drow but don't be mean to her or youll scare her away!
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>>162689442
Aether is usually the 5th element.
So it could be Aether/Arcane Spirit.
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>>162689306
>fire
check
>wind
check
>lightning
also check
>earth
check

>water?
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>>162689306
Benis Spirit :DD
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>>162689306
water
storm is wind since he constantly refers to it
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>>162687342
Stopped playing a bit after the old spy vs sniper update came put. Tjat was arounf the time they started introducing cosmetics and i saw the dorection the game was going and overall LOWER skilled games. So i quit. 2.5k hours of my life. Could have learned a language perfectly.
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>>162689531
>wind
>lightning
lightning is storm spirit
whos wind?
>>
>>162689267
>loss on the year
>the two peaks EVER were Shanghai compendium and Year Beast 2015 event
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>>162689306
HEART
CAPTAIN PLANET CONFIRMED never because of the Chinese.
>>
>>162689681
Storm refers to clouds and wind a lot, so I just assumed he's both
>>
Three days ago I was playing at least 5 games a day upwards of 10 on weekends. 7.00 hit and I can't play anymore this game is fucking done.
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>>162689395

HUD USES TOO MUCH SPACE.

ALL THOSE NUMBERS ARE CONFUSING FOR NEW PLAYERS AND RAISE THE SKILL FLOOR

THERE COULD BE 3 PA'S HIDING BEHIND THE ATTACK/ARMOUR/MS STATS, IT NEEDS TO GO

also the attribute spheres gotta go they're phasing them out
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>>162689681
lightning is always part of wind when going by the 4 classic elements, don't be a memester
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>>162689859

same.

2 days ago I was playing a minimum of 3 games per day.

patch hits and what do I do? launch the game, queue, remember they changed the game, and turn it off. I've done it 3 times today.

eventually the habitual game launching is going to stop. I've spent $600 on this game.
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Why did Skeleton King have mandibles again?
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>>162690063
Oh wait that was his crown
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>>162690049
I've played the patch, 10 games to be exact. I didn't get a single satisfaction in all 10. I didn't feel I won the lane. I don't feel I was the deciding factor in team fights. It felt so lackluster and soulless.
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>>162690063
>>162690179
anon.....
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>>162690063
>>162690179
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>>162689384
if only valve would do that, i have over 2.5k hours and i get to play with people with less than 500
its not that they are less skilled than i am, its just that THEY DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT ALL HEROS DO AND GET FUCKED WHEN THEY FIGHT AGAINST UNUSUAL HEROS!!!!!!?!? FUUUUCKHGJBMNVK;NBMVHGJ ;HNMBJGVK; JHKMGBN;U
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>>162690940

Maybe you should get better at the game shithead.
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Monkey king is just as overpowered as bullshit earth spirit

This hero needs at minimum a hotfix nerf
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>>162678695
hahahaha
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>>162678868
2? its three now. jugg, sven AND aa
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>>162688739
press J you stupid idiot
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>>162689384
You're not as bad as you think and you're not the worst player in the game every match, the other players just make you feel like it. Keep your chin up and realize that you actually ARE playing with real shitters and most of your losses are NOT your fault, it's the truth. Call them out on it if need be
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>>162687973
>when d2g was dead, just 500 posts and some anon creates new thread
>no complains
d2g alive, thread created way too "Early"
>complains, and even the link was deleted

really makes you think
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>20 games in and I seriously don't feel much different about the update

feels ok, i guess
>>
>>162688934
as a sc2 player seeing dotards panic even if their game is the most played on steam is fucking pathetic

holy shit you crybabies kill yourselves
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>>162692998
>implying that anyone in /d2g/ actually plays the game
you're just being meme'd son.
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>dont pick hero
>match starts
>cant pick hero
>server crashes
>game is safe to leave
haha if this works every time i swear to god
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>>162689531
>Earth
check
>Fire
check
>Wind
check
>Water
not really
>Heart
GO PLANET
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>>162693292
it worked a second time... wow
>>
valve guy here, played dota for over a decade, I feel the need to warn you that 7.0 is just the beginning, our current design philosophy here is to simplify dota to, frankly, make it more accessible. the game is full of what the team considers "confusing" and "redundant" stats that we want to filter so people can "get in and play"

the main goal currently is to phase out attributes, by which I mean strength, agility, and intelligence, which will be rephrased as "classes", and the actual purchaseable attributes are just being broken down into their hp/mana/etc bonuses on the items.

Strength: gains +1 damage per 20hp
Agility: gains +1 damage per 1 attack speed
Intelligence: gains +1 damage per 12mp

instead of saying anti-mage gets 1.2 str, 2.8 agi, 1.8 int per level, it will say anti-mage gets 24 hp, 2.8 attack speed, and 21.6 mana.

obviously there are some huge thorns we're trying to work out like armor (1/7th per level is "irregular") but some of the nuts and bolts are already added this patch (illusions scale off of attack speed now, as an example. necessary if agility attribute is to be removed)

personally I think these changes are going to be terrible for you core players, I wanted to let you know now so you aren't feeling too betrayed a few months from now.

I'm sorry.
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just tested and you can pull the radiant offlane spawn nearest the lane with pudge, same for the dire offlane, although its a little harder.

you can also pull the dire mid lane to the left most hard camp. it doesn't look like you can do the same with the radiant mid.

all of this was tested with lvl 1 hook.
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