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First for Eyes is best mutant.

>>162655745
Why did the mods even kill it?

>>162661553
Maybe they thought
>Slow general
>Near bump
>Last reply was a decent while ago
>Lets just do it ourselves.

>>162655745
Who is this Nic and what game?

Don't you die now.

>>162662045
He's from dashbored and I think the artist who drew him was that one girl with the slime bunny girl OC on tumblr. Great artist.

Why the fuck is there a Plok web comic and why is it over 120 comics long.

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Any news about the Steel Zeroes thing? I was lucky enough to download the demo right before I lost my internet access.

I thought it was great fun, I like how they made it so the random battles were optional, which is both good for people who want to grind, people who just want to do enough to get the right items and levels, or people wanting to do low level challenge runs.

The writing is pretty good, my favorite character was the army robot. I thought the detail about humanity's population decreasing at the same time robots were recommitting more advanced was interesting. It's probably just a joke about people fugging their robots, but it'd be interesting if there was a more serious issue behind it.

The character designs are pretty cute, although it's pretty clear the artist has a thing for birthan' hips. Even the boy robots have wide hips. Speaking of which, is there a download link of all the character sprites in the demo? I want to look though the various expressions the characters make.

What did you guys think of it?

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Bustin' doesn't make me feel good...

>>162667302
The dev posted his newest character in the last thread before it got killed.

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>>162667303

It says they died "a long time ago" so think of it as releasing these poor souls from their prisons and allowing them to move on to the afterlife.

>>162667302
What I want to know is what is that gradient/ texture he uses that he puts over his art?

>>162667302
Who's the artist to the buddy there?

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>>162669530
http://steeckykees.tumblr.com/post/153976145997/uuuuuuuuhuwav-character-portrayed-as-18

Also, I was looking at the files for Joyful, and something that didn't make it into the game is that there was supposed to be Buddy's name at the top of the list. I thought it was interesting that her name was written in pink. I figured it'd be a dripping blood red for max edge, since the other names are also in red, but I guess Buddy still has a little femininity in her after all.

Makes me wonder if she'd still like doodling pictures and putting makeup on people after she found peace, and if she ever wound up making any friends (or if Rando hadn't died in the game.)

>>162667303
Then don't kill them. A shit existence it may be, but they clearly want to cling to it. If you cryo'd yourself you probably wouldn't appreciate if some asshole came in and unplugged you.

>>162666709
Because Plok was decent and planned to be a brand. The comic is great from what I've read. Lots of meta stuff.

So long, Deep Caverns...

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>>162672905

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The end!

>>162673408
Congratz

>>162673408
Good job. Which ending did you get?

>>162675963
I went to North Underrail.

>>162661553
"Wow these fuckers will not shut up about Buddy"

So what's indie playing, drawing, mkaing, or cooking?

>>162678884
Playing Russian Roulette single-player

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>>162678884
Playing more of van hellsing. There was a sorta tower defence quest in my resistence lair which was ok. I learned during it that all the expensive traps are shit and that the lowest cost electro fields paired with werewofl soldiers work best.
I also seem to be underleveled now because I did all sidequest but found equip 2 levels above me and had big common enemies one hit me with a far range grab.
Also ghost-sidekick-blowjobs woo!

Theres a time and a place for anime

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>>162682964
It's always anime time!

Oh hey, it's back.
>>162678884
Terraria, since many of the Mods are updating. Only one's not updated from my go-to set are Prefixes for Enemies and Sushi's Tweaks.

>>162678884
I got the #1 spot on Wuppo's new Boss Rush the other day.
Not sure what to play now.

>>162684849
What is Wuppo? Sounds like a Popcap game.

>>162684651
What Terraria mods do you recommend?

>Yooka-Laylee coming within 6 months
>Still waiting for a Hat in Time

>>162685598
Wuppo's a 2D Action Platformer.
I'm not gonna say it's the best game ever, but it's really enjoyable.
The plot is about a little ball-creature getting thrown out of his home and going on a quest to find a new home or reclaim his old one, whichever works out.
18 extremely varied bosses and a decent range of environments to explore, the game is, despite being really cutesy, fucking stuffed with lore about the universe the game resides in.
New Boss Rush is also really nice, albeit somewhat difficult because your health carries over between fights and it denies you several heals that you get when you kill a boss.

So if you like comfy platformers, it's a pretty good buy.
$10 atm.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/400630/
The DLC stuff is fluff.

>>162685780
Didn't the WiiU version get canned?

>>162685706
Personally, I run Thorium, Tremor, IMKSushi's Tweaks (base), Zoaklen's Mod, and Prefixes for Enemies.

I'm also trying out the Cataclysm mod because he fixed the garish and awful sprites for armors and weapons. Some of them are still bad, but at least they visually fit.

And the Crystilium mod, which I have no fucking idea what to expect, honestly.

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Why is she so cute?

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Yooka Laylee's up for pre-purchase on Steam.
>$40 for base game which is IIRC 4 or 5 worlds
>An additional $10 for Art Book and Soundtrack

>>162686041
Next month theyll give details but probably they trashed it for a Switch port

>>162686375
brain filling in the blanks from low fidelity pixels

>>162686643
I know it's unfair but lol that screenshot looks like they just jumbled a bunch of crap from the Unity Asset Store together.

>>162686375
>she

>>162686643
>2 million pounds for 5 worlds
>future DLC is free only for backers
>$40
yeesh
Guess we'll just wait and see if its worth

>>162686919
What?

>>162671343

I don't like how mean spirited the comic is in the beginning and I don't like how the devs seem willing to blame everyone but themselves for the game bombing.

Even if Bubsy killed the mascot platformer, lots of SNES games got a second wind because people played them and realized how great they were. And there's a reason why that never happened here.

>>162686643

Sounds reasonable, depending on how large the worlds are. The Sly Cooper games always had 5 worlds each.

>>162687398
How did Bubsy kill the mascot platformer? There were a ton even after Bubsy 3d?

>>162687398
>Sly Cooper
To be fair, Sly also established itself as good.
YL is riding off big names and aspirations.

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I want to play Specter Knight now.
It looks so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naTvOdM66_Y

>>162687632
True but that doesn't mean YL can't be good too, they seem to have the way the characters move down to feeling pretty good at the very least.

>>162687780
I 100% agree, the point is the mountain to climb is high.

>>162687632
Is YL a glib facsimile?

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>>162687520

That's just the devs' narrative.

>>162687910

>inb4 it gets delayed to September because it turns out porting to the Switch is hard

>>162688090
Last I recall, they said YL wasn't going to be delayed on other platforms, but has a possibility of a minor delay on Switch due to the mid-production platform transition.

>>162688090
The wa his eyes are so detailed scares me.

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>>162687398
I took that as more of a joke than blaming the consumers for avoiding kusoge

>>162688640
jesus this has been going on for 2 years.

>>162686643
I was honestly expecting it to be a full-priced $60.

>>162691573
To be quite honest, I'll probably end up day-1 buying it. No need to even remotely consider pre-order because I already played the entirety of Toybox+.

>>162691573
I'm actually kinda glad it's not 60 bucks. 40 seems kinda reasonable really.

>>162691659
Toybox+ was really solid, I will buy the game at $40 in the first month or so if review confirms its good.

>>162691817
Me too, the price of a 3DS game isn't too shabby for something like this, at least before it's released.

>>162693241
3DS games are immensely overpriced
Thank you /hbg/ + GBAtemp

>>162693321
How are they overpriced, they seem pretty fair for the most part.

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>tfw there's nothing left to play now that you're done Underrail and all you can do is wait for the expansion

>>162695841

You could always do a new playthough with a different build. I tried a girl character, to see what would be different. Sneaky mentions that it might be harder to disguise myself as a protectorate solder to sneak in and get the energy shields, since I'd be a white girl pretending to be a big black guy.

Speaking of which, on my first playthough, I tried sneaking it, but when I told the guard to let me in, he asked if I was sick, mentioning that I liked unusually pale, before attacking me. Is it because my character was white? Does he say something different if I pick one of the avatars of a black guy?

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>>162696713
A lot of people hit on you if you play a girl.

>>162699193

>That's a nice face you have there. Sure would be a shame if someone ate it.

>>162699193
>ooh underrail, a hard core post apocalyptic experience
>choose girl
>everyone hits on you
>everyone gives you free stuff
>no one, not even the faceless attack you
>male escorts shoot the monsters for you
o-okay

>>162661553
samefag bumping w/ no content

>>162702070
Wrong

>>162699384
That wasn't my experience. I played as a lady and everyone liked to tell me the fuck off! Especially the Faceless

>>162704213
I was just making shit up, so, I'm not terribly surprised.

>>162661553
Cause /indie/ keeps posting that Twitter image

>>162704313
Probably this

Hey everyone, I've been really busy as of late, but I have a break coming up so I should be able to continue working on an update for new years.

I wanted to know if you'd like to see more content of Midori and Jack or of other characters, and if you have any suggestions for what you'd like to see.

physical edition soon

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>>162704834

D E L E T E

>>162705351
translation please

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>>162705459
No idea, I was going though the Lisa tag to find art I missed out on during my month without internet, I can go ahead and dump the Japanese arts for anyone curious to see them.

I'll dump them on the booru later too.

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>>162705706

>>162704834
Mods dont care unless someone reports it. So to whoevers being a butthurt faggot your snitching is killing this thread

>>162705351
PAVERU HAKASE
TOMODACHI WA MURI DESU
MOCHIRON DA
OMAE WA DA

You alright there Misha?

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>>162707979

Yes.

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>>162708094

I never tried a sniper run. Can you use some caltrops to toss to slow him down? Or eat an eel sandwich and hope the boost in dex lets you go first and hopefully fuck him up before he reaches you (snipers are about doing loads of damage and 1HKO-ing people before they get you, right?)

>/idle/ still dead as a door nail
I have a kitten obsession.
http://bloodrizer.ru/games/kittens/#

>>162709397
my friend says you're his favorite tripfag. <3

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>>162709870

cool

Is cookie clicker down for anyone else? I cant connect, and a couple friends of mine cant either.

We've concluded either its down or the university has blocked it on their wifi

>>162711821
Works fine from China and my USA proxy

how the fuck am i expected to beat carnifex if he always gets initiative and the shitty cutscene drains all my shields/cloaking

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>>162712024

Is your dex any good? On my crossbow girl, I just reloaded until I went first, then hit him with an electric bolt followed by bleeding bolts. Then I went around a corner and laid an acid trap for him to step on while I shot him down. Disappointed to see he didn't have good loot on him.

What's your build? My girl has 7 dex, and it took a few tries before I could get the first move.

Can you throw a flashbang and hide behind one the pillars, so you can recharge your items?

We imagedump now. Hope the mods don't delete the thread again.

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>>162713181

Just a few more to go.

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Last one.

Is this /indie/'s return to LISA?

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>>162714173
No

oh, nightmargin worked on oneshot? small world

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Stay in Your Coma

this Meet Lenox Pierce quest is kicking my ass

why isn't pickpocketing just tied to stealth

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>>162716843

Pickpocketing is optional, it isn't required to complete the quest.

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>first getting into Oculus
cool fuckin shit, styg
can't wait for that expansion

>>162719597
That's a truly special moment if no one spoiled it for you. Probably one of the most special moments in an rpg, because you fucking worked for it and earned the privilege.

>>162719597
>>162725064
iktf

>>162716843
You don't need pickpocketing to complete it.

You don't need any skills to complete it.

>>162712024
>how the fuck am i expected to beat carnifex if he always gets initiative
Wel lthat's what you get for not giving a fuck about your initiative. You should have some survivability to make up for it.

>the shitty cutscene drains all my shields/cloaking
The cutscene doesn't drain your whole shield, maybe most of it but not all.

Considering that carnifex ignores 70% of it even a small amount of energy left is enough. You can always make a conservative shield if you want to but I don't see the point.

And why exactly do you need the cloaking device for in this fight? I guess it can help with evading his throwing netbut it shouldn't make much of a difference, if your evasion isn't high on its own you are fucked anyways.

>>162708094
>having problems with pulverizer as a sniper
Just how shit can you be?

He has only 18 initiative so you should get the first turn most of the time and just one shot him.

If you miss or lose the initiative you still should be able to:
-kite
-throw a flashbang/caltrops/throwing net
>taser
>kneecap
>set a bear trap with quick tinkering

To make some distance and one shot him.

Post your build.

>>162714173
It's 80% Misha being an autist for it.

>>162686643
I always hated all of the banjo games and rares newage shit. I am very happy they can not ruin DK anymore than DK64 already did.

>>162705351
What was posted, the twitter thing?

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>PhrygianDominant changed his avatar to pic related
What did he mean by this?

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>>162729750

Yup, the twitter thing.

>>162732717
Who has the bigger bone of those 2?

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>>162732039
Who knows?

>>162732039
Both him and Mac consider themselves Drop Zone niggers, apparently. But at least Styg is still Biocorp master race.

Nah, but new portraits is always cool.

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>>162733759
WARNING WARNING

INSIDER AMONG US

>>162733759
Any idea when the new patch rolls in?

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>>162733430

Sans has the biggest funny bone.

>>162735203
You don't have to be an insider or an oracle to know that. It's coming "Soon™". Fingers crossed for friday or sunday, although either options means GOG players won't be getting it until at least monday. So I guess this makes sunday the less bad of the two.

Is it alright to play Stardew Valley without ever marrying to any girl?

I just don't like any of them.

>>162735979
>Soon™
I know that much, was hoping for me.

Oh well, I guess it's good enough.

>>162736339
That's completely fine.
You can also mod the game for some more options.

>>162736583
>When is the patch coming?
>I already explained that to you.
>Not enough apparently. What year is it coming?
>I explained enough. You may not receive a further answer.

Fucking Faceless, I swear. It's like talking to a wall.

>>162737181
I wonder why Styg doesn't have Six as his avatar.

It fits perfectly.

>>162737305
Spoilers, I guess? He still censors cube and Tchort in his patch logs, so he is probably sensitive to that kind of thing.

>>162735203
To be honest I'm more interested in the expansion's release date. Numanuma's finally got announced, I wonder if that changes things. It probably does.

>>162739295
>To be honest I'm more interested in the expansion's release date
It's supposed to be early 2017. So probably mid to late 2017.

>Numanuma's finally got announced, I wonder if that changes things. It probably does.
Why?

>>162732717
>>162733430
Papyrus

>>162739391
Well, see, because there's an overlap between the audiences.

If we consider the Codex a decent example of Underrail's playerbase, then ask yourself this question: if the Underrail expansion and the latest overhyped tl;dr storyfag circlejerk game that will most likely provide some sweet controversy and drama came out at the same time, which one would they go for?

But if the plan is mid to late 2017 then it's not an issue. I've been thinking it was going to be early 2017. In that case the only competition is... ELEX, I guess? When is D:OS2 coming out proper?

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Tides of Numenera
February 28, 2017

>>162739757
>If we consider the Codex a decent example of Underrail's playerbase, then ask yourself this question: if the Underrail expansion and the latest overhyped tl;dr storyfag circlejerk game that will most likely provide some sweet controversy and drama came out at the same time, which one would they go for?
Both?

I don't think Styg cares about this sort of thing, nothing stopped him from releasing the base game at the very end of the year.

>But if the plan is mid to late 2017 then it's not an issue. I've been thinking it was going to be early 2017.
The plan is early 2017. I'm just saying it's likely it will got delayed because that's how Styg is, he likes to add more and more things. I think Underrail was supposed to come out in 2013 or 14 at one point.

>In that case the only competition is... ELEX, I guess? When is D:OS2 coming out proper?
Again I don't think Styg cares. He just wants to make a good game, not compete.

>>162736339
No it is not alright. I wish they had someone like the dad in Harvest Moon 64 to chastise you for having no friends and no wife and encourages you to give up farming and return to wage slavery.
Grandpa comes too late.

I've played a large variety of indie games already, but I'm getting a bit bored, you guys have recommendations? Under-rail seems interesting, and reminds me of Fallout 2. I've played NT, Gungeon, VA-11 HALL-A, Stardew Valley, and a few other games I can't recall.

>>162740125
Not competing is one thing, committing sales suicide is another. Sure, those who are interested will probably pick up both eventually. But with Torment I'm expecting another PoE, something that will keep people occupied for months with all the review and whatever drama it'll generate.

When Underrail came out it didn't really have much competition. The AoD hype was just dying down, the PoE expansions were out and forgotten, and people had time to play. It was a good time to get most of the playerbase playing at the same time.
This game lives on word of mouth. It NEEDS its players to talk about it. And that's not going to happen if everyone is too busy screaming shills and niggers.

>>162740535
Environmental Station Alpha (hard and sometimes frustrating but masterly crafted Metroidvania)
Gemcraft - Chasing Shadows (fun tower defense, lots of content)
Infinifactory (3D building, logic, programming game)
Knytt Underground (fun exploration platformer)

>>162740969
Gemcraft seems interesting, I haven't played a tower-defense since the days of bloons td. I'm a bit too much of a casual for E.S.A and Infinifactory, Knytt Underground is where the 'don't eat the mushroom' game came from, no?
Thank you for the recommendations.

>>162735145
Hold on now, that sprite is already in 1.0.1.10. It's just not in use yet. Anyone could post that. I'm trying to maintain plausible deniability here.

>>162735203
Probably 2017. However, there's been talk about a public test branch and I'm hoping that gets done as soon as possible. It's not like there has ever been a significant quality difference between test/live releases. Those who played the alpha already know.

>>162739295
>I wonder if that changes things. It probably does.
lol, nope. It'll be released when it's ready.

Come on guys if Styg released the expansion in early 2017 it would have to face Torment 2

would it do okay?

>>162740535
>Torment 2
>Persona 5
It'd be a bad time

>>162741329
meant to reply to >>162742387

>>162741329
I don't know. If it came to that I wouldn't hesitate for a second to pick Underrail, but I really don't know. There is a lot of hype around Torment. Here's hoping it will be at least semi-decent.

Once upon a time I put a combined $350 into Pillars and Torment so it better fucking be good.

How the fuck is accuracy with snipers determined? It seems almost entirely random. Some times I get 95%, some times I get less than 40%. These are all while I'm Focused, too.

>>162744939
Maybe it's lighting. Try throwing a flare

>>162744925
it's more or less like this:

>your guns skill vs target evasion skill
>* penalty for each tile of distance * lighting modifier
>* extra penalty for each tile beyond optimal range
>+ close quarters penalty
>+ unfocused penalty
So basically you're shooting long distance in the blind (get night vision) or someone is on your face and you can't hit shit.

>>162745951
meant for >>162744939

>>162744939
>How the fuck is accuracy with snipers determined?
Just like any other weapon. Keep in mind that only Styg knows the exact formulas.

The base precision is 70%. Those can be modified by:

1. Weapon optimal range
2. Weapon STR and skill requirements
3. Weapon durability
4. Weapon close range/move penalties
5. Weapon precision bonuses

6. Enemy evasion/dodge rating compared to your offensive skill rating
7. Lighting

Now to explain how all of those affect precision

1. Your get a precision penalty if shooting beyond your optimal range. For example all sniper rifles have a max range of 20 and optimal range of 14 (with one exception).

That means your precision will stay high as long as the enemy is 14 or less tiles away, but will start dropping once you try to shoot further than that.

2. You get approx. 10% penalty for every point of STR below the requirement. Don't know the math behinf skill requirement and how much you lose if you are below it, but it's very rarely an issue.

3. All weapons get a precision penalty as soon as they reach 30% or less durability. From that point The penalty gets bigger the more degraded the weapon is, it can get pretty big if you reach 0-10%.

4. This one is pretty self explanatory but the numbers displayed are not always 100% correct.

For example, I did some tests with spearhead sniper rifle that has 15% move penalty. I had 95% precision so it sohuld drop to80% after moving.

In practice it dropped to 79%, 1% more for some reason. I'm guessing it has to do with how the game rounds up the values.

5. Some attachments and even weapons themselves have precision bonuses.

Keep in mind some of those bonuses are lost in certain cases even though the game never tells you about it.

For example, the scope and bipod bonuses are not applied if you are not focused.

con.

>>162739816
What's that?

>>162744939
>>162747394
6. You have approx. 70% precision if your offensive skill is equal to the enemy evasion/dodge skill. You can test that by targeting rocks or rathounds (both have 0 in both) with your bare fists if your melee skill equals 0.

If your skill rating is higher the precision increases.

Evasion/dodge cap at 60% reduction if their rating is twice as big as the offensive skill rating of the attacker. So if you try to attack a guy with 100 dodge with your bare fists and 50 melee, yuo will have only 10% chance to hit.

All of those are just approximations though, no one knows exactly how it works in great detail. Styg formulas are an enigma.

7. Lighting only applies to ranged weapons but it's a big factor. I think Anything that isn't the brightest light possible gives a penalty.

There are multiple levels of illumination and different items/environments give different levels. It's always good to shot an enemy that is near a barrel brazier, a mindshroom, a flare, a molotov fire or any other source of light.

Night vision goggles allow you to ignore any and all lighting penalties while active, they are a real godsend for snipers.

>>162748091
>>162747394
Do NV goggles also help detect stealthed enemies in the dark? Crawlers are becoming a real pain despite having lots of points in perception.

Streum On finally made it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdx3woUZSWM

>>162747394
>2. You get approx. 10% penalty for every point of STR below the requirement. Don't know the math behind skill requirement and how much you lose if you are below it, but it's very rarely an issue.

WAIT. You can equip and use weapons you don't have the minimal STR for, you just get a penalty?

...I feel so fucking retarded right now.

>>162748226
That's a good question, I never thought about it.

I don't think so. The level of illumination affects how easy it it to spot someone in stealth, but I think the night vision effect works as a buff that only affects the player.

You can get motion tracking goggles that increase detection greatly though. Paranoia feat increases it as well.

Remember that detecion scales with level, too. With high PER and stealth you will eventually be able to detect crawler before they detect you, or at least detect them while they are sneaking up on you.

>>162748509
>WAIT. You can equip and use weapons you don't have the minimal STR for, you just get a penalty?
Yeah.

Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use Balor's Hammer until very late in the game.

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>>162744939

I use crossbows, I don't know if it's the same way with snipers, but if I turn on my night vision goggles, my accuracy improves a lot. Try using those if you haven't. Make sure to turn them on during/just before the fight too, or you won't get the night vision bonuses.

>>162748226

I think it helps, but you'd be better off buying/making goggles that boost your detection. The one I got now almost doubles my detection.

I think if they take damage from caltrops, they'll also reveal themselves, so you can put on some metal boots, toss down a bunch of caltrops if you feel like you're in crawler territory or you can see their shadows, but can't target them directly.

>>162748692
I just assumed you can't use it at all, unless you get drugged out of your mind. Shit man, it's in bright goddamn red, why would I even assume it can be used? Attribute/skill requirements are usually a binary kind of deal in rpgs.

>>162747694
Torment: Tides of Numenera, the follow-up to the 1999 classic Planescape: Torment- an RPG regarded for its intelligent take on video game morality and its exemplary writing

>>162741142
>lol, nope. It'll be released when it's ready.
And it by the grace of Tchort it happens to be ready on February 27, 2017, it's going to get released along with Torment? Forgive me if I'm somewhat skeptical, but I seriously doubt that. Unless you don't believe it has any chance of getting finished by then.

>>162752297
>We expect to release the expansion during the first half of 2017
That doesn't sound like February release to me. It sounds like "maybe before summer"

>>162753347
>expansion gets released 1 and a half year after the game came out
>there might be more expansions in the future
Man, Gri... ehm, TES VII is going to be out before Underrail 2 even gets announced, isn't it?

>>162754397
>grimwah going out before Underrail 2
No, just no.

>>162758709
Let's say Underrail gets 3 expansions in total, each taking 1,5 year. So last expansion will be out around mid-2020. For a new game, there are already engine limitations, so they will need a new one. But then, the team is now bigger. So let's say it will take 5 years to finish, but add a small delay just because. So Underrail 2 will be out by 2026.

Now then, if we assume that if the stars align a single micro-issue can be fixed in 2 years, it would take until 2024 to complete it. But we should expect complications.

Still, announcement might be rushing it, but if they hurry up they might make it until Underrail 2's release. And who knows, maybe even Generation Ship will be out by then.

Is Ninja Tears still in development?

>>162762479
You mean manly tears?

>>162762479
Id guess so

>>162759667
No matter, humanity will be long dead before either Grimoire or Underrail 2 is released.

>>162765067
My feelings on this matter are too complex to be expressed with mere words. I'm going to need something truly highbrow to compensate for this inadequacy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOp0jtYvZ_M

>Escort Vivian

fuck this so much
why didn't i just join coretech

>>162765934
Because Coretech is shit.

You should have joined Praetorian.

>>162766184
CoreTech has the best trader. He has really good quality components while praetorian and JKK are meh.

Only reason to go praetorian is if you want explosive .44 blueprint but .44 hammerers and tommy are shit. At least JKK has acid 9mm which is way better. CoreTech has shock 5mm which can be useful as well.

JKK also get more oddites (fany lighter). You can't max fancy lighters otherwise unless you get really lucky in the gautlet. You also need to join Protectorate to max them either way.

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>Still waiting on Titanium Axes because I'm too much of a tight-ass to make more Sawmills

>>162767496
>catpower
what

>>162767019
However out of the three Coretech is the only one that doesn't have a faction-locked exclusive area.

JKK get the Biocorp facility, and Praetorian get the sewers with a fucking pillar. And both of those are good quests.

What does Coretech get? A fucking quest you probably already finished long before you even joined them. It's just a shit deal, merchant notwithstanding.

sure wish jkk quest didn't drop you without warning so i'm stuck as a stealthy sniper in a place filled with mobs and no real way to escape from muties with Frag Grenade Mk IV and no flashbangs or method of incapacitation

this is fucking abysmal

>>162767859
You are stealthy. Just sneak past them or use the air vents.

>>162767715
http://bloodrizer.ru/games/kittens/#
An Idle game that requires you to be relatively active in it, far more than most.
It's also really fucking slow.
I'm not even that far yet and I've spent the equivalent of 3.5 days playing it on and off.

>>162767859
>stuck as a stealthy sniper
The fuck

They are just muties, what's stopping you from just one shoting them with Snipe and Aimed Shot? You don't need flashbangs for that.

Also why are you doing quests unprepared? What did you expect?

>>162767019
>You can't max fancy lighters otherwise unless you get really lucky in the gautlet.
That ain't true, there are 5/3 fancy lighters.
- 2 are accessible for everyone
- 1 is in gauntlet
- 1 in hepheastus (protectorate exclusive)
- 1 in biocorp facility (jkk exclusive)

>>162767859
Oh boy you're going to love Deep Caverns.

>>162768412
Right, got it mixed up.

So it would be still preferable to go JKK if you join free drones. Unless you want to savescum the gautlet hard.

>>162768615
oddity completionists gotta savescum gauntlet anyways because it also has the final train log :^)

>>162769112
Well, at least they will have to savescum less.

Styg should add more train logs around in the next patch. Thank me later.

>>162769408
>Styg should add more train logs around in the next patch
>Thank me later.
>in the next patch
Well it certainly isn't going to be any time soon.

>>162770121
Most likely at the very beginning of 2017.

>>162739467
>Papyrus
But he's a girl.

>>162770484
Just teasing you, man. Not complaining. Good job drawing Styg's attention to this.

That being said, the very beginning of 2017 means that 9 months have passed between two patches. This is the longest absence of updates since the first version of the alpha came out. Not that it's strange for a released game, but it includes some fixes for things that people still regularly report that they fixed long, long ago. And for all we know it's not a major content patch, so it's a little strange. I get that they are busy, but they could have released a hotfix for at least the GMS bug and some other minor things during this time.

>>162771496
>I get that they are busy, but they could have released a hotfix for at least the GMS bug and some other minor things during this time.
I'm guessing they just want to release a big meaty patch and be done with it rather than making a bunch of individual hotfixes.

As far as I know the GMS crash happens only if the old man dies so it's hardly game breaking. I don't even know why so many people get him killed, I don't think I ever did that.

>>162732039
>>162733759
So, okay, who is this? The character, I mean. Only few are special enough to deserve their own unique model and matching portrait. And if it's already in the game than the guy is probably not an expansion character.

I'm going to laugh so fucking hard if he somehow turns out to be the timefuckery teacher.

>>162773042
It would fit that cat-obsessed motion dealer pretty nicely. I think his name was Sergio.

>>162773508
Yeah, that's a good one, it really would fit Sergio. I was thinking Duff, but he is a ridiculously minor NPC. But can't think of anyone else flamboyant enough, unless it's someone new.

>>162770121
https://steamdb.info/app/250520/depots/
If all goes well, there will be a third branch, public test, before the next patch is released. However the current dev test branch is broken as fuck so it will take at least one hotfix/day before we get that.

>>162771496
Yeah, it is a little strange. It's not like they couldn't release a patch, but... I suppose it mostly comes down to how closely the base game and expansion development are tied together.

>>162772021
It might not be gamebreaking but it's embarassing that a crash bug has gone unfixed for 8 months. To think Underrail bugs used to get fixed within minutes in the best case scenario. There's also another severe bug and that one IS gamebreaking, although easy to fix. What makes this even worse is knowing that these bugs have been fixed ages ago, but the fixes haven't been released to the general public yet.

>>162773042
It's Duff.

>Only few are special enough to deserve their own unique model and matching portrait.
Nah, those few were just the bare minimum. As you probably know, all areas of Underrail are improved iteratively, and this includes improving/adding portraits and character models over time.

>>162775097
>It's Duff.

Fuck me, so my first guess was correct after all.

But... he really is a very fucking minor NPC. Shows up only in a single faction quest. Okay, so more people get portraits and models from now on, that's really cool. But... man. Duff? Seriously?

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>You are Jillian Cleary: an ex-spy on the run, framed for treason and hunted by your former agency. You must move in secret, survive off the grid, and find a way to clear your name. Old friends and new allies will lend their support; but with the eyes of the world upon you, who can you trust?

>Keep in the shadows, move in silence, and stay out of sight. Escape from tight situations by scrambling your enemies' vision. Enhance your performance with black market stims.

>Explore a concrete-and-neon brutalist vision of the modern surveillance state. Undertake eight missions spanning two continents. Meet a diverse range of interesting characters.

>>162782101
>L4X0V-B9LCD-KTJ6
Neat, thanks.

>>162782101
>cubes
eh

>>162782406
Tell me if its fun

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Is Spiral Knight any good?

>>162782961
no, it's one of those mmos with a daily limit for literally everything

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>fucking gaunts get to be edgy cyber-ninjas
>swords and naruto jumping and all
>but not me

STYYYYG
IT'S NOT FAIR
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
STYG WHY
AT LEAST LET ME JOIN THE FACELESS DAMNIT
I'M JUMPING INTO THE MUTAGEN TANKS RIGHT NOW AND GOING TO LICK THE SHITTY ROCKS UNTIL I BECOME A NINJA

>>162782961
It used to be.
A new company made up of many of the old Developers bought the rights to it, but instead of making the game great again, they kept doing what the prior owners did, same seasonal events, same shitty prize boxes, same stagnation.

>>162782757
Will do after dinner.

>>162782961
The artstyle is nice, but they've done basically one major story update in all the years it's been alive, and long ago hit the hard cap on mechanics with the way combat works. Shield Dashes and grenades just aren't enough to freshen things up when everything else is unchanged.

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Something has gone wrong

>>162740243
>talk to girls every day
>even gift them with stuff they like and love
>they still won't even hug you or kiss you on the cheek
>they won't even DANCE with you at the Flower Dance festival

nigger, if bitches mistreated me like that, when i'm such a nice newcomer in a town, i wouldn't look them in the eye ever again.

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>>162782757
>First thing I notice is it has a Tourist difficulty where enemies will literally ignore you and hacking is automatic
>Also notice they have a Chromatic Abberation setting in Graphics
>Setting resolution to your monitor resolution automatically shifts to windowed borderless
Nice.

>>162784354
>Something has gone wrong
Specifically, you not putting the game name in your image file name or post.

Also the mixels are bugging me. Fuck.

Has there ever been a single good actual open world indie game?

>>162786798
Yes. Starmeme Meme

>>162785228
The Last Door

>>162785228
Wait, what's different in pixel size?

>>162788160
Oh oops, I thought it was an outline around his head. Looking closer, it's just that the character can go off the pixel grid.

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>Set in a futuristic Odyssey, "The Next Penelope" is a fast paced action racing game with loud colors, an original story and a challenging risk-reward system.

>If you've played a MicroMachines game, you'll feel right at home with the controls! (An alternative control scheme is available for newcomers as well.)

>Weapons can be mixed and used at any time, but all these abilities cost vital energy, so the player is very powerful and close to death at the same time!

>As Penelope is looking for Ulysses through the galaxy, the player is free to explore the planets in any order. Each world features unique situations, races, even bosses, and new permanent abilities to enhance Penelope's spaceship.

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Fire Rider
> HP: 25 + (12 * 3)
> Starting Weapons:
> Flame Bile, Flame Cannon
> Shotgun (x3)

Passive
> Has Three Gators on your back that shoot things for you
> Gators absorb shots for you, negating damage until they're all dead
> Gators are revived upon reaching the next area
> Cannot pick up weapons

Active
> Flame Bile (M1)(Slows Movement)
> Flame Cannon (M2)(Charge to use)(GREATLY slows movement)

Thronebutt
>Better guns for Gators (x2 shots per shot)
>Increased Flame Bladder (150% capacity)

Ultra A
>Improved Flame Bile attack
>Gator Men get Flame Shotguns

Ultra B
>Buff Gator Men

>>162790458
sounds incredibly overpowered

>>162791435
Only when the Gators are alive. Do you know what it's like to do a run as a Fire Salamander?

That aside, it is. The intention is just to make something fun and stupid, and it fulfills that quite well.

>>162791795
i'm all for fun

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bump

>>162786798
2020 something

>>162790090
>NAJFD-YITP7-LEX88
Thanks mayne

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Need some graphical inspiration for a first person dungeon crawler I'm making. Any /indie/ suggestions?

(Already played all of Eye of the Beholder, Legend of Grimrock 1/2)

Kinda want to play some translated Japanese shit but I wouldn't even know where to begin

>>162796521
king's field

>>162798029
Specifically ones with tile based movement...

Kings Field was neat (when I was too poor to buy a PS3 just for Demon's Souls)

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V-Vivian...
Why did you have to go?

>>162790458
>>162794186
>Modded NT characters
Flashyn like mad, my man.
Baby Scorpion is cute too.
Where might I find these?

>>162796521
Wizardry
neo-Wizardry
nu-Wizardry
Ultima Underworlds
Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey

>>162798589
The fan translation of Shadow Tower Abyss is alright
The PC port/remake of Kings Field has a lot of good custom dungeons but I think the sites are all dead. Maybe the Souls /vg/ thread has mirrors of the big western mods, but the small creative jap mods are likely gone for good.

>>162799543
>>162800442
Cheers

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OH FUCK

>>162803168
Never talk to me or my dads ever again.

>>162782961
Definitely play it if you haven't already but you will hit a wall where it just is not reasonable to play anymore. I got 2700 hours into it and enjoyed my time a lot but I only revisit it for birthday, halloween and winter event. Haven in winter is so lovely.
>>162783219
Man you are so behind in news.

page ten bampu

>>162796521
The Dark Spire
Wizards & Warriors(2000) for bad 3D Nudity
Realms of Arkania if you are German
Stranger of Sword City if you're Anime
Etrian Odyssey if you are Moe

>>162776756
Either we are getting a lot more new models than we previously thought, or someone from the team really likes Duff.

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>>162814301
>or someone from the team really likes Duff.

>>162814301
Well, they have added more generic NPC models and portraits in past patches. But not any unique ones like that..

>>162816697
Seriously. SGS has two uniques, and one of them is unique only in portrait. The Protectorate gets one "unique", the Free Drones have none. No Core City Oligarch or anyone working for them has a unique, either model or portrait. The Faceless, Oculus, and the Institute each have one unique model/portrait.

And now Duff.

>>162817516
Do you have something against zoners? Rude.

>>162817661
>Zoner
Not after I gave him 5000 charons, not anymore.

>>162817747
5000 charons buys decent clothes, wouldn't you agree?

>>162817863
He is richer than the oligarchs now, baby.

>>162817942
>5000 charons
>richer than oligarchs
I doubt it, 5000 is not THAT much.

>>162818229
It's more than what the oligarchs had when I was done with them.

>>162818448
>implying oligarchs keep all of their money on them

>>162818726
It won't do them much good, anon. They are gone. Too bad, I know, but you should forget about them. You've got to think forward, bro, not be stuck in the past. There are no more oligarchs. They're gone! Gone! Gone! GONE! Now, I don't want to talk about them anymore.

From now on Duff is the Fresh Prince of Core City.

>>162817516
You have a weird way of viewing things.

Besides, there are already at least 4 unique portraits/models in Core City. The gauntlet runners for instance.

>>162819745
It's weird to notice how unusual this is?
The Gauntlet runners are unique because it's part of the deal to dress like retards to amuse viewers. Carnifex is important. And the Siphoner-man is a legend. That's a good enough reason to get a unique.

Whats the worst indie game that had a lot of effort unironically put into it?

>>162821334
there are a lot of fangames that get a ludicrous amount of artwork done for the atrocious dialogue and snailpace combat/everything they have.

Giving Yume Nikki a try.
Seems like a fun game.
After entering in the first door with the forrest green world and then going through the maze and then in that 3D like world, there is that creepy lady that looks like Madotsuki who I can't get pass her. I can get pass her in that arena that you have to Z the mini square, and on the maze, but not on that 3D world with a 50's restaurant floor. Any tips?

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My story continues in an old boarding school turned into some sort of hospital

>>162790458
>>162794186
I really can not wait for this shit.

>>162822565
You generally just need to find the eggs by walking. A few eggs ahve usable skills.

>>162823284
In stills this gae looks like a parody.

/indie/ is dead. Long live /indie/!

>>162829095
People are beating Underrail so /indie/ falls asleep once again

Huh, I never really looked at Underrail's Steamspy stats before.

>Players in the last 2 weeks: 1,987 ± 1,171
Don't you just love Steamspy. So maybe 3000 players played the game. Or maybe only 800.

>Players total: 45,160 ± 5,582 (74.85%)
75% is surprisingly low. It's 95% for Tyranny, 91% for Pillars, 83% for AoD. Could it be because it was given away in a bundle back when it was still in Early Access? Either way, this puts the number of Underrail players at ~45k minus GOG.

Although Serpents is similarly at 75%, and D:OS is at 71%. So it's definitely not that bad.

>in the past 2 weeks almost 10% of the players were from Korea
Dafuq. They overthrow their government then go home and play Underrail? Korea is much cooler than I previously gave them credit for.

>Serbia didn't even make the list
;_;

>unlike such densely populated places such as Antarctica and Christmas Island
Let's pretend for a second we are not dealing with proxies or some other weirdness. Christmas Island accounts for ~0,43% of the owners. That would be about 258 owners. According to the 2011 census the total population of Christmas Island is 2072. Which means more than 10% of the country's population owns Underrail.

By the way, apparently their capital is called "Flying Fish Cove". That could even pass for an Underrail location.

>>162830670
We need a new hit!

>Gunpoint added to that december humble bundle
Good, if they keep adding games like this then the bundle might be worth it at the end.

>>162820092
>And the Siphoner-man is a legend.

Is there an actual way to meet/find Siphoner-man? I never came across him.

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>>162836250
>I never came across him.

>>162836250
Well, you see...
Or you don't.

Finally I have free time to play indie games

>>162836250
Yes.

How do I get a ticket for an Arena match? Line is not moving at all.
>>162832120
Check Underrails achievements. Only 60% of all Steam players killed a single thing. Going by other achievements only half of those people played the game for more than 8 or so hours where you must have acquired an achievement for killing 50 enemies or injecting 50 hypos.

>>162839818
>How do I get a ticket for an Arena match? Line is not moving at all.
You don't.

You can only apply to fight in the Arena yourself. There is an office right next to tickets.

>>162839818

You can't actually go watch battles, but you can go talk to a guy at a table and go downstairs to actually fight in the matches.

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>Humble go code your own fucking Indie Game Bundle

>>162840401
>learn unityscript
this should be illegal

>>162839818
>Check Underrails achievements.
Achievements are the devil, but ouch anyway. Okay, let's be optimistic and say some of them play in off-line mode, and say 25% of the owners are active players. So the target audience of the expansion is more or less this 11k.

>>162840401
There are people buying this? How?

>>162840814
>Achievements are the devil
You don't understand the secondary function of achievements.

It's a great feedback tool for the developer. Ttat's probably why most Underrail are uninspired "do stuff x times". It's just to make statistics.

>>162840814
>Okay, let's be optimistic and say some of them play in off-line mode
You get achievements when palying offline too.

I remember getting the 50 morphine shots achievement when playing offline.

>>162840814
>>162839818
>>162832120
It's because there are more steam keys than steam players.

>>162841479
>You get achievements when palying offline too.
Yeah, but they only get updated once you go online. So an offlne player that stays offline would not contribute to that list despite technically earning achievements.

>>162841587
Sure, but aren't achievements calculated from players, not owners?

>>162842075
No. Owners. Owning meaning a Steam key that exists and has been activated.

>>162841179
Doesn't mean I have to like it. For all I care if they want statistics they can fucking collect my save files, or do their stat gathering behind the scenes. Just let me turn off those retarded pop-ups.

>>162840814

Underrail is for the 1%
https://galyonk.in/your-target-audience-doesn-t-exist-999b78aa77ae?gi

>>162842225
Slightly better then, since we have about 15-20k who never once loaded up this game,

>>162842386
I bet you throw like a girl

>>162842386
>uses steam
>complains bout cheevos
m8

>>162842386
Can't you disable pop-ups though?

>>162842498
Alpha versions bought elsewhere gave out free steam keys but I don't think that covers 15-20k. The rest are probably players who bought multiple copies and/or play it on GOG.

>>162842596
Nah, actually I'm complaining about one of the reasons that made me leave Steam. But to know that the devs actually use them for statistics is a little disturbing.

>>162843162
>The rest are probably players who bought multiple copies and/or play it on GOG.
That would be interesting, although for a different reason. An audience that buys 15-20k extra codes just to sit on them?

>>162843535
> But to know that the devs actually use them for statistics is a little disturbing
It's mostly to see how many players got past certain stages of the game.

That's why you get achievements like
>kill your first enemy
>finish act I/II/III/whatever
>kill boss
>finish the game
etc. etc.

>>162843535
Did you really ever think achievements were for players?

>>162843162
https://groupees.com/bagb
Build a Greenlight Bundle 1 gave Desura and Steam keys
10,712 bundles sold but not necessarily everyone picked Underrail.

>Underrail
>La Mulana
>Salvation Prophecy
>Eryis Action
>Leisure Suit Larry
All for about $3, what a deal

>>162843162
>>162844362
Wasteland 3 crowdfunding campaign also gave out few thousand UnderRail keys.

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Hey anons who have completed Underrail.

What was the hardest/easiest mutagen puzzle you've ever done? Post reagents and solution as text.

Since you all seem to be in a craze about the game, I decided to go and get UnderRail. Any advice before I start the game? (when my potato finishes downloading it)

>>162843862
Makes sense, although it might be tricky to interpret the results. A customer that played only for a few hours is not necessarily an unhappy customer. But to assume based on this that depth and length are unnecessary is not necessarily the right conclusion either.

kek, but I was never particularly good at trend and statistical data analysis. I'm sure they know what they are doing.

>>162844095
They sure love them. I don't know. My university used to be pretty big on the whole "gamification" shit, I always assumed this was the same thing. Make a game out of playing a game, keep constantly rewarding your players so they feel good about themselves and buying your product, etc. But that was a long time ago, I'm not sure if this strategy has fallen out of favor since then.

>>162840581
Why?

>>162845131
Don't make a jack of all trades. Use common sense. Experiment. And pick a build you are most likely to enjoy playing.

Any specific questions?

>>162845005
>What was the hardest/easiest mutagen puzzle you've ever done?
I did 4 different mutagen puzzles and they are all pretty much the same really.

The rules are very simple, just get all the mutagens, add those that have Exitus-1 atoms in correct order, when you are done look for mutagens that will get rid of junk atoms without fucking up the order or adding other junk atoms you can't get rid of.

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>>162844095
Explains why they made these

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>>162845131
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