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Gore edition

EU:
NOPAN (elite weeb club)
http://eu.wargaming.net/clans/wot/500136066/

NA:
AWOO (weeb friendly)
https://na.wargaming.net/clans/wot/1000043295/

FAQ
>where do I look up tanks
tanks.gg
>how do I find people to platoon with
join the /vg/ channel in game
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Previous thread: >>162390453
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PLSGO confirmed best /vg/ clan
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What should I be doing in my T-34

t. noob, this is my first tier V tank
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>>162613796
EU:
NOPAN (virgin dumpster clan)
http://eu.wargaming.net/clans/wot/500136066/
14(?) tanks? is that even a full team of tier 10s on EU?

NA:
PLSGO (elite campaign clan)
19 total reward tanks
http://na.wargaming.net/clans/wot/1000009754/
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Reward tanks soonTM
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not furry
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>>162613975
They got <100 reward tanks.
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http://wotlabs.net/na/player/garlicfries
this is an EXCELLENT player
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>tfw that top tier heavy comes out at a 90° angle
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>>162613859
Use the 57mm ZiS gun. It has good DPM but low damage per shot and it's fast. Don't feel like you always have to be sanic flanking around but try to put yourself in situations where you can use your speed. Do less poking around corners, shooting once, and driving back into cover. Do more circling around tanks and getting behind them, or spending a few seconds to drive the long way around if it means you get on someones flank from a better position than you were before.

The most important thing to learn at tier V is what each role is supposed to do, most especially heavies, because around tier V every role actually starts to work. You don't have a clusterfuck anymore, everyone goes to their places their role goes, heavies go to heavy spots and tds go to td spots. Tanks actually fulfill their roles too with how their built and their stats, lights are scouts, heavies are big brawlers, so you have to learn how to be a medium.
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>Tier VI game
>2 minutes 30 seconds into the game
>last enemy dies
>we lost one tank
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>>162615205
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>>162616086
>grinding church 7 from stock
>get one of those games
>don't even get line of sight with an enemy before the match ends
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>>162616686
That happens to me all the time.
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>>162616787
Has the mighty TOG even made an appearance in GuP?
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>>162616826
No.
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>>162618772
DELET!!!!
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>play in T-34
>oneshot by IS
>switch over to playing SU-100Y while waiting for the T-34
>oneshot by KV-2

welp
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>it's another dark red tomatoes camping your spawns redline episode
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>>162613627
Gore edition?
NSFW dump incoming
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>these are your teammates
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>>162621476
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I can't tell if everyone who uses the T-34 is shit or if I'm actually not shit at a tank for once, I keep getting second class mastery
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>>162621687
>second class

It's like shoot 3 times and you already have it
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>>162621745
Better than what 80% of other people do
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>>162621801
what did you expect at T5
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>>162622001
more competence than Tier IV
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>>162622082
Oh boy, you're in for a wild ride
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>>162622131
i guessed as much at tier II already
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>>162621545
Fuck, I remember seeing a gif of a KV-2 brewing up, it's turret (what was left of it) went sky fucking high.
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So I have gone through the current top 50 clans for EU and there are currently 124 clan spaces. Of course I'm not autistic enough to count those without 15 battles in these clans. I'm seriously starting to worry these third party websites are pulling a ruse since their numbers say there are thousands of tanks up for grabs outside of the top 6k. This is going to cause a lot of butthurt.
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>>162622650
>not being in a top50 clan yourself
lmaoing @ yellows
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>>162622650
Last night http://wotevent.guildity.com/ said that last place to get the tank would be ~8600, today it's at 8400. Top 50 clans are selling their empty spots for shitters, go look up any top 50 clan and look for faggots with 0 days in the clan
>tfw in top 3k by fame points
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>>162623154
>implying guys with 0 days in clan will have the time to play 15 games
lmaoing @ paranoid yellows
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>>162623241
Well ok 0 days is exaggeration, anyway you get the idea
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>>162621545
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>>162622650
>>162622797
>>162623154
>>162623241
>>162623379
>>162623379
So what is the safe position to be in then? 6000-7000?
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>>162623565
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>>162623154
Start looking up top50 clans from the bottom to the top, every "barely top 50" clan has like 5-7 people with 2-3days in the clan and ~15 battles played. Anyone know what's the going rate to buy the tank this way, I know we got some top fiddy faggots in here ?
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>>162623648
Lewd I found between all the gore
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>>162623658
I know a top 50 guy who accepted a guy into the clan and played 15 games for him. It was for one of the new p2w heavy premiums.
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>>162623598
Dunno, it should not change at all (8400 currently) as this domestic violence victim here >>162623241 noted
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Why do I suck with the Patriot and nothing else?
I even prefer the T32 over it, it's just downright better (not on paper but ingame) and as the "Survavility" value insists, I can even utilize it's armor better than the Patriot's.
If I don't want RNG to troll me I have to be no farther than 150-200 meters from enemies which means I have to brawl if there's no hull-down position.
Which means trading shots and I usually come out losing more HP than I do with the "amazing DPM".
If I hang back in tier 10 matches, it means 7 shots out of 10 are misses. If I want to hit something, I get blowed up instantly.

Really, any insight on how I should play this tank besides "press W and shoot things"?
I can hardly ever break the 1.0 damage ratio on this tank it's so easily destroyed before I can even deal 1500 damage.
I'm not red, I'm not yellow, I just can't hit anything with this tank as RNG is master troll on this gun.
I have much better hit ratio on literally every other gun/tank in the game.

So neither sniping nor brawling works for me in this fucking "OP" tank.
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>>162623793
So essentially 40-50€, beats playing this shit for 4 hours straight for roughly a whole month I guess
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>>162623872
>I'm not red, I'm not yellow
eleven shades of green XVM scale doesn't count, yellow.
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>>162623872
>can't get the fucking Patriot to work
>I'm not yellow I swear
t. yellow
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>>162624085
>>162624192

1578 WN8, I know it's not much, but as I said I'm not yellow you statwhores.

Also you fail to provide any useful comment just bark like puppies.

>HURR DURR Patriot is too OP, I break 8k damage each game while ding Obj. 140s wolfpacks.

Fucking retard teens.
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>>162623872
>>162624592
Hellmaw is that you?
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>>162623952
It was a friend of a friend tho. Might be way more expensive for a total random/shitter.
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>>162624619
Hellmaw has higher WN8, then again he also has 1k battles in Pz. II J which is why WN8 is a worthless metric
>>162624592
>Also you fail to provide any useful comment just bark like puppies.
Ok big dog, then post your stats with Patriot and i'll tell you what you're doing wrong
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>>162625014
>1k battles in Pz. II J
How could one ever feel clean after doing such a thing?
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>Patriot is in top 10 tanks by the winrate in its tier and class
>has 4-5th highest winrate if you don't count reward/meme tanks
>people "struggle" with it
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>>162625103
I'm pretty sure he's amoral
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>>162625162
>those number of battles with the new frog and burger

jesus christ how much did they make from them? we have the advent deals of them coming up soon
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>>162625632
Assuming you average shitter has like 1k battles in his metalwallet (huge exaggeration, most people got like few hundred battles since these tanks have been out for barely a month) you'd get 600k sales
these tanks go for around 40 bucks so 40€*600k= twenty four millions
Sorros ain't got shit on Serb when it comes to jewing.
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>>162625014

I can't handle this tank. Only viable hull-down from 200 meters. Then a clicker sends a package and it's "Back to Garage". Or a tier 9/10 pens you. Or a tier 8 outflanks it, but he doesn't even have to hit the sides as the LFP is so bad even when angled. Trade shots? Who wouldn't?

Peek-a-boo? - Not viable because of the low alpha
Sniping? - Low accuracy and ultimate troll RNG
Brawling? Get 2-3 shots from any tier 8 and die instantly
Shot hits curved armor? Auto-bounce because lack of APCR normalization
Somehow RNG favors you for once and you pen for 240? Get penned for 390/440/750 in return.
Are you hull down and didn't get penned? No worries, as in hull down you're not behind hard cover, arties are already targeting you...

I honestly hate this tank and honestly don't understand how everyone manages to do 3-5k damage in it regularly before getting raped.
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>>162626362
user error
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Nth for nofun comfy clan
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>>162627250

I'm here to find out how to play this thing effectively.
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>higher tier medium trying to bully
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>>162627252
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>>162627464
by what you wrote you just suck at positioning and understanding map flow which are independent of how the tank's actual performance.
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>>162627252
>NOFUN
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>>162627726
Poor meme game, neck yourself
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>>162627881
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>>162626362
>post these stats instead of the ones that matter
of fuck sakes, i need your survivability and armor use but i guess these will suffice.
Basically you trade like shit so your positioning is most likely garbage as well, I assume you don't know how to use your armor either, also patriot gets good gun handling with good accuracy don't blame RNG for not hitting half aimed snapshots
>Somehow RNG favors you for once and you pen for 240? Get penned for 390/440/750 in return
don't god damn trade with tanks that have higher alpha than yours what the hell is your problem other than yellowittis ?


Basically boohoo muh RNG, boohoo muh matchmaking
>I honestly hate this tank and honestly don't understand how everyone manages to do 3-5k damage in it regularly before getting raped.
There's that color again
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>>162627464
http://wotreplays.com/site/index/version/50/tank/1205/sort/inflicted_damage.desc/
go through these replays and mimic what these faggots are doing, surely in most of those replays people will be top tiered but you'll still learn a thing or two about positioning
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>try to apply
>write a decent introduction letter
>no swear words or any fuckery
>this letter contains forbidden words
>mfw
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>>162628026
kys
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>safely behind cover
>waiting for reload so I can finish a tiger off
>everything stops moving
>5 seconds later
>suddenly I have 6 health and my tank is turned 90 degrees and further out away from cover
>die
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>>162626362
>blames the game, RNG and the tank in one post
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>>162628074

Armor usage is around 0.64 if I remember correctly, so really sucks.
Survivability is pretty low as well.

So tell me a tier 8/9/10 medium/heavy with lower alpha than 240.

How to use armor? On this tank? No idea. You can't overangle or sidescrape because of 76 mm side armor, so only capable of slight angling which means an IS-3 or Tiger II or whatever will be happy to pen you without effort. UFP, LFP, whatnot. But I'm sure there are pro players who angle the Patriot's 200 mm effective armor to negate 200+ penetration values, right?
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>>162629173
You can bounce a fuckload of shots above 200 pen with 200 effective armor because pen randomization.
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>>162628074

Oh, and I have way higher armor efficiency on my Type 59. I even bounce a LOT more on the T32's "weaker" UPF because it's default angle is better suited for occasional ricochets than the Patriot's one. But the Patriot is so OP on paper.
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Obj 140 or T62A or 430?

121 any good?

Grille 15 or Foch 155?
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>>162629396
>Patriot is so OP on paper
just stop posting
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>>162629497
140 & Grille
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>>162629173
just hulldown you fucking retarded nigger
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>>162629497
>or Foch
Never ask this, it is always the other tank.
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>>162629660

When I hulldown, 4 things can happen:

- do decent damage and push with my teammates (rare)
- miss half of my shots because I'm not close enough for making up the lack of accuracy and shot placement this random gun has (often)
- go closer to enemies to negate gun RNG trolling then get outflanked and jumped upon by multiple tanks (very often)
- getting clicked because no hard cover (often)

Btw pic very fucking related and it's not my post.
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So is arty always this tedious or is this just the lower tiers?
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>>162630358
there are 4 temperaments
persistent, lazy, smart, dumb,

you are persistently dumb.
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>>162630484

Thanks for the constructive criticism kid, it's pretty useful for my future tactics.
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>>162629396
>deals as much damage as tanks with pref MM while having regular MM
>blocks as much damage as IS-3 or IS-5
>higher survival rate than idiot proof IS-6
you're a yellow, case dismissed
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>>162630647
people already told you it's you that's the problem not the tank
people already told you what youre doing wrong itt
every purple player will tell you its an op tank
yet you still insist on the problem being the tank

you arent looking for constructive criticism. youre looking for an echo chamber to validate your shit opinion. quite frankly im sick of shit posts like these. they at best distract and at worst misguide. you dont know enough about the game. just shut the fuck up and maybe learn more about it before you post about it again.
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>>162630358
>using bronies opinion as a validation
Ok i'm no longer replying to you
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>>162630647
Mate the patriot is basically the caern but better in every respect apart from accuracy.

>Use hull down positions
>dont peak a boom agianst enemies with higher alpha you will loose the trade every time and die
>don't be retarded and trust your armour to defend you from shit like the Lowe or T34 they will pen you nearly every time.
>you most definitely can side scrape only a 152mm gun is going to double overmatch your side armour and nothing triple overmatches you so if your hull is at 70 dgrees (85 for heat rounds) you will bounce everything coming at you.

I can't really understand how you can suck in this tank is pretty much use your dpm and lack of weak spots to win.
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see guys? the clown camo takes away 1/5 of your earnings
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>>162631471

Thanks for the relevant comment instead of barking, much appreciated.

I haven't figured out a good angle to sidescrape yet as the turret is mounted way in the front, but I'll try to utilize it in the future. I'm hulldown most of the time, but I'm yet to figure out the best positions on each map as so far I'm used to commie meds and brawler heavies lacking decent gun depression.
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>>162631493
Freedom always comes at a cost. Europoors wouldnt know anything about it.
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KV1S $50 :^)
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>>162631736
>numbers and statistics are barking
literally safe space glass feelings dick breath bitch boy
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>>162631818
except it's tier 7 so its nothing like KV-1S and is simply worse IS
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>>162631818
>https://thedailybounce.net/2016/12/13/world-of-tanks-kv-122-available-on-ru-server/
>Another new Premium is now available just on the Russian Server, the KV-122 Heavy Tank for just $25.00.
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>>162631736
Your turret is a bit too far forward to properly sidescrape meaning you are gonna have to expose some frontal hull but you should be okay for short periods if you make the time you expose it short.

As a rule of engagement if you enemy has less than 200 pen just rush them, unless they load gold your dpm is gonna shred them pretty fast.
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>>162631931

>implying "persistently dumb"/"t. yellow"/etc. are numbers and statistics and/or useful gameplay tips on improving my performance
>implying I didn't know/haven't stated that my gameplay and approach of the Patriot is the problem aside from RNG constantly trolling me with this very tank

But then again, this is 4children, so I can't complain.
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>>162632289
>4children
and yet you're still here
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>>162632320

I was here before you knew about this site, faggot.
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>>162632470
hardly an accomplishment worth bragging
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>>162632470
and all those years later you still get your fee-fees hurt by meanie posts
fucking manchild at its finest, then again you relate to bronies so it doesn't surprise me
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>>162632289
>take a full grown man 3 hours of shitposting to admit hes bad at the tank
>still blames RNG because every tank gets different RNG you know
7mature5me
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Daily reminder this place is an echo chamber
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>>162631736
You are playing the patriot like its a T32 or a T29, thats where you are failing. Its more of a M103 than either of those. You have the armor combined with the mobility to be aggressive. You are wasting your tank by pigeon holing it in to playing it as only a hull down tank. It can hull down and excel but it can also get in higher tier tanks faces and out DPMing them.

If you are getting outflanked by multiple tanks then one of two things are happening. First you are not looking at your map, second your a hull down bitch that sits at the back until everyone of your allies is dead. In both cases you are shit and dont deserve the Patriot.
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>when you got nothing to fall back to other than your age
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>>162632653

As a grown up man yourself you can definitely imagine yourself in my situation regarding WoT. I'm not happy. I've bought a tank for real money that everyone was praising like the arrival of the second Messiah and I'm not doing well in it, which puts me under double pressure as I want to get better and better in this game as this is my favourite game for some time. (I'm not a pro player, but definitely above average.)

I feel that I've approached this tank in a bad way to begin with, usually my performance is much better on said "shit tanks" as it motivates me to be good in a game character/class/tank/whatnot people despise for being underpowered. Exactly the opposite happened in this case I think.

I'm used to 4chan's style and community, I do also love intellectual sarcasm, it's just frustrating when you expect some kind of constructive feedback helping you out in a "desparate situation" (even if it's 'just' a vidyagaem) and get quite the opposite.
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>>162633401
youre too old for videogames dad
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>>162633401
This post is so intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
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>>162633507

Maybe. I'm 32, but I really enjoy vidyagaems. And the majority of WoT players are not that young I guess.
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>>162633614
>>162633401
now i feel slightly bad for calling you persistently dumb but desu you had it coming
http://www.o7gaming.com/maps/
go to medium spots, passive start (conserve hp, opportunist sniping, let your teammates eat shots then you shoot), aggressive finish (bully low hp tanks with your dpm, you have reload that out repairs skill, use turret armor, forget sidescraping)
learn to go hulldown everywhere you go, small undulations in terrain count, be creative
point your camera at the arty spots, if there isn't a hill/tall thing inbetween you're not safe
shoot gold and use food (if youre having that bad of a time with rng), you make 120k on a win so its whatevs
vents, vert, rammer
desu spend more time playing than posting on this malaysian icecream recipe trading site
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>>162633401
Let me list the reasons to own a Patriot.
1. DPM, Its got very high DPM for a heavy tank or a medium tank. It out DPMs most TDs.
2. PEN, its got some of the highest Penetration for a tier 8. I think the highest for any premium tier 8, this backs up number 1 bug time. Pen is the reason the Super Pershing is garbage.
3. It has decent armor and mobility.

That should tell you much about how to play it. If you are still in doubt, go look up Patriot replays and find out how the 5k damage players played their Patriot. You wont find many playing hulldown 24/7. Because that would be stupid and completely nullify its first and biggest strength.
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is there a website where i can see combined needed for MOE?
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>>162634123

No worries dude, thank you kindly for the tips. Yeah, I run on rammer/vert. stab. already. Crew is on 95% repairs, will reset to BiA + repairs at around 150-160% cumulative and add the vents too. I was considering buying Cola just to see the difference it makes, I'll definitely try it. Also, I'm at work so I should be working, but heck, it's the end of the year.

>>162632141
Thanks man, I'll try.

I've had 4k+ damage on this tank already so I know it has potential I'm just eager to utilize it to the max and save myself from making stupid mistakes.
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>>162625014
>which is why WR is an even more worthless metric
ftfy
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>>162635463
true dat
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Swedish line fucking when?
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>>162637868
Tomorrow, or on Thursday.
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>>162634458
sixth
snap
smooth
ammorack

sixth, repair
snap, repair
smooth, repair
ammorack, repair

bia, sixth, repair
bia, snap, repair
bia, smooth, repair
bia, ammorack, repair

bia, sixth, repair, vr
bia, snap, repair, camo
bia, smooth, repair, camo
bia, ammorack, repair, vr
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>>162637868
ruskies got it today, so if they go by 1 per day, EU gets it tomorrow and NA thursday, or maybe both tomorrow.
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How do I not get 2shot in a tier8 5 times in a row?
What hte fuck is going on? "gitten gud" won't help me at all, it's always something else that fucjks my ship upfdjs
No matter how hard I try I get succd even harder. Is this what retardation feels like?!
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>>162639675
weebs are naturally trash at video games
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>>162639675
Yes. Git Gud. Learn to position yourself so you wont get fucked.
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>>162639884
t. yellow
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>>162639884
I'm not weeb though, haven't seen gayshit moe anime since forever. Educate yourself from which animated drawing you can gain something from by watching it(pleasure and arousal can be achieved by visual stimulation).
>>162639974
No, after 8k games I still die, so I'm dumb and hopeless. Nothing works. It feels like this brings down my worth as a human bean. wtf i fail at life now??!?!
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>>162640506
This nigger can't even remember how many "from"s he wrote. Die CIS scum.
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>>162631493
prolly cause true unigums already have enoguh gold from cw and other bullshit so they dont want to buy the patriot with camo cause it only comes in bundles and is more expensive
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>>162625162
112 confirmed best tier 8 heavy
I told you all
>>
>>162641279
More like only retards unicums who saw how good it was on supertest and believed it'd be as good on regular got duped into buying one.
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>>162641734
But it hasn't been on sale in ages though.
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>>162638843
>>162637868
NA might wait longer because shitty esports qualifiers going on.
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Is there any way to get this tank?
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>>162642121
Campaign rewards
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>>162642121
play clown wars :^)
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>>162642121
You can pick it up for free tomorrow on EU.
Ofcourse you need to be in top 50 clan or have enough personal fame points.
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>>162642121
join NOPAN and win it next year :3
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>>162642303
>no clannigger names on top of them
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t.yellow
t. some random EU
join NOPAN
AWOO shitposting
GUP shitposting
battle results blog
X is the best tank
X is the worst tank

Okay I guess I'm done with the general for the week.
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>>162643839
t. red
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>>162642401
Somebody make this please
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Nuffield AT1 when? Also fuck why won't WG give the 3.7 inch howitzer arty sights, it is one in every way
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>>162643839
americans are so gay lmao
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>>162643839
t. loituma
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t. sawse
>>
t. hellmaw
>>
t. goatti

>>162642182
>>162642184
>>162642245
>>162642303

>Clan/campaign shit.

Fucking hell. I am absolutely terrible in clans and i dont have a microphone which makes it suck even more.
>>
t. cipher
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>>162646172
you have one year to get good, and not having a mic is completely fine
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This tank is cursed. Bouncing on LTs tracks all day.
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>have average game in 12t, nothing felt too special
>2300 spotting, 1120 damage
>just let my rhm work everyone over
>somehow a 1st class mastery, 5k wn8
Light tanks are so fucking easy to pad in
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>>162643839
complaining about shitposting is still shitposting
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I want to grow up to be like SaWse one day! Literally the best player in EU,SEA,NA and RU!

pic related, my hero SaWse
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t. ich
>>
>SpeedyChild uploads a vid of some old ass foch155 gameplay
>see a comment with 200 likes and 40 replies about him stealing the video from some channel
>want to open the replies
>doesnt work
>refresh
>comment deleted

lmao
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>Going for the foch 155
>hear that it has been nefted
>"it can't of been that bad"
>See this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2OzrRNYPB8
>lol no more big alpha
>lol all your armour but the front will be triple over matched
>lol you arn't allowed spaced armour
>lol lower horse power

WHAT THE FLYING FUCK

I feel like I just got majority ripped off. How the fuck do you justify a nerf that makes all but one side of a tank triple over matched by every gun it faces.

>>162653630
Can confirm lol
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>>162653630
Literally doesn't matter. It's just a shitty game.
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>>162653630
>>162653826
really makes you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKjc7wXELD0
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>>162654786
who the fuck is this faggot lmao
>>
>>162654786
Hold the fucking phone I didn't know it was the exact same match.
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>>162655234
That's what this anon said>>162653630


>Hey guys! I've come up with a brilliant idea for new videos, I'm going to steal people's shit and pretend it was my idea.
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>>162655374
It's just a replay file which he recorded on his own PC with original commentary
Fucking e-celeb watching cucks, I swear.
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>m53 on our team goes td mode on paris right from the start because he's trash
>gets shot immediately, on 59 hp
>just sits and does nothing
>I'm hunting people down in my 50b
>stop because there are people in middle around the corner
>m53 just plows right into me, kills himself
>blames me, proceeds to talk shit and call me a noob
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>>162655662
its a bit odd to do the exact same match and delete the comments rather than replying to them.
>>
so what's the deal with the new swedish heavy? i know its first iteration on the test server was completely broken but is it still superior than the t57 or the 50b?
>>
>watching qb instead of skill, my lovely friends
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>>162656549
it's superior at being fucking annoying i.e you cant get penned and neither can you pen
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>>162656705
>>162644020
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>>162656686
>not watching plank
>chill music
>no gay facecam
>not even mic
>just pure 5k wn8 gameplay
>>
>>162656686
>babooween
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>>162656686
who?
>>
>>162656835
literally who
>>
>>162656686
>>162656835
>>162656849
>not meditating in a rice paddie while reading the art of war for 8 hours a day before tanking
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>>162656990
dechapl

plank
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>>162657097
>tfw was actually autistic enough to read it because of WoT and then discover how retarded I was for doing it
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>>162657097
>reading some chink moral shit instead of the prince
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>>162657130
Kek at FAME changing their logo after le animal meme
The absolute madmen.
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>>162657097
>art of war
Here is the real art of war
Hit them with a stick
>It doesn't hurt them/they have shield
Get bigger or sharper stick
>they hurt you
Get shield
>They hit you before you hit them
Get longer stick
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>>162657097
>>162657215
>>162657404
>reading guides instead of being naturally good

>>162657130
gold slinging unicunts are dime dozen
all have the personality of a cardboard box
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>>162657489
no bullying of daki and weenis' paint skills allowed here friend
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>>162657603
>all have the personality of a cardboard box

he has neither a cam nor uses mic on stream, there is just gamplay on his twitch

and as much as i hate gold spamming cunts, hes actually good
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>>162657712
>voiceless unicunt gameplay
they're all the same. press 2. farm damage. yawn.
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>>162657956
why dont you have 5k wn8 if its so easy
>>
>>162658115
I'd rather have fun than play this shit game
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>>162658115
my recent is actually 4.5k. i could probably get 5k if i pressed 2 more often. but that's irrelevant as the point i'm making is they're boring to watch.

maybe i just want to watch the streamers suffer.
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These are the vehicles I've been playing the most lately. Should I be doing anything different?
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>>162659067
are you having fun?
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>>162659167
A fair amount of fun with the Strv 42-57.
Not loving the IS but I really want to get to the IS-3/T-10. I do pretty well with the jagdpanzer 4 but its boringly good. Somewhat bored with my jumbo. Overall, not really.
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>>162659314
>I really want to get to the IS-3/T-10
both are pretty fun
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>>162656835
>chill music
that's where you're wrong. the music is beyond annoying and it gets all of his vods muted
the gameplay is nice, though
>>
people i am willing to execute for the benefit of the playerbase:
arty players
e-25 players

just line them up and let me get to work
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>jap heavy ges racked
>crushed by turret
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>>162662034
Did he get the kill?
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>when you try to carry but not a single one of your team mates can make his hp in dmg
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>>162664079
that's kind of depressing but it serves you right for playing t6
>>
>someone starts speaking Spanish on the NA /vg/ channel
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>>162664252
>>162664079
>play tier IX-X
>eventually get bored of running into gold spamming medium platoons
>play tier VI-VII
>get bored because theres more fresh players who just rush along tech trees with their 150 avg dmg per game
>play tier VIII
>is3 and OP premiums trump every attempt at trying to have fun
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>tfw you will never lay in bed and fall asleep to SaWse calling you a retarded neeger
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>>162664079
One of them did though?
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>>162664895
>ill blame everything else before ill will admit im shit
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>>162665708
keks

i would show my stats but youre going to call them shit and move goalposts anyway so not gonna bother
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http://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/pc-browser/46/version-917-release-announcement/
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>>162665963
post them anway
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>>162665963
lets see your tier10 stats so /wotg/ can laugh at you
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>>162666273
Even though tier IX is the superior tier?
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>>162666559
farming 7s is hardly an accomplishment worth noting
>>
>tfw slowly pulling tier 10 stats to purple
And purple by the official wn8 scale, not that retarded xvm scale which puts the top 10% of the playerbase at green.
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>>162666559
Tier 9 is more fun but your stats in tier 10 tanks are what really matters
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>>162663983
Yeah, I think so.
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so whens the next batch of OP premiums coming?

i want a pre nerf type with 220 pen
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>Want to play historical tanks like the T-34, Ha-go, M4 etc
>low tiers are filled with mongoloids
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>>162668670
Makes it easier to seal club, my dude
>>
The T67 is the biggest "I'm an asshole" tank in the game.
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>>162669184
e5
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>>162665972
so the SuperPersh is getting it's AP pen buffed from 170mm to 192mm and get pref mm? I'd expect the T-54 mod 1 to have gotten that buff instead, no bias
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>>162669329
The T67 is just such a magnet for statpadders that you know 50% of the time its gonna be someone spamming gold at you. At least with the e5 its not so broken for its tier.
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>ask personnel officer of a clan if I can join
>tells me that my overall stats look very good, but I need to bring my recent and tier 10 stats up
>look at his profile
>his top tanks include over 3k games in the t67 and hellcat
>over 2.5k games in the loltraktor
>over 1k games in the wolverine
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>>162669514
>>162669552
lol good timing.
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>>162669469
its the worst buff imo
there is no point anymore why it should have pref mm, they rather should have increased its dpm if they wanted to buff it
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>>162669469
mfw tomorrow rolling out in the brand new lowe
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>>162669096
But sucks when your team's collective IQ is a double digit
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>shitters think they can take our clay
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>>162670232
This little awoo is ready
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>>162670364
>58% winrate
lmao I have a 68% winrate with PLSGO

Yuros need to step it up
>>
>>162670561
literally who?
>>
>>162670510
source..?
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>>162670561
IS-5
>>
>>162670813
I have one sitting in my garage, what's the big deal?
>>
>>162670561
but youre playing on a ded server where you cant make slavs mad by driving around in your vk72 while theyre stuck with the inferior type 5 heavy
>>
>>162653630
>>162654786
>>162655374
>>162656354
It's not really that weird, since he's been searching for "epic games" lately on wotreplays. And that game is the highest damage game ever in the Foch155 so obviously it comes up first when searching.

Dunno why I'm "defending" speedy toddler
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>decide to play War Thunder again
>install
>load up bong tenks
>every other nation vs russians
>entire team is full of russian retards
>literally don't do anything the entire game and die
> I put 6 (six rounds) in separate locations of the enemy T-34-85 and he's still not dead
>he turns his turret and one shots me
>remember that I can respawn in this game
>try cromwell
>get spawnkilled
>check aftermatch report
>remember I'm researching the Archer
>check tech tree
>notice red marked Caernarvon
>have to research and purchase 5 more tanks of the previous tier to unlock this tier
>lol no
>check /wtg/
>people are only ever playing on the lowest settings because it gives you a SIGNIFICANT advantage
>when in reality it should be the opposite

Holy hell, it actually makes me appreciate WoT. I'm glad I haven't been sucked into that literal russian biased shit game.
>>
>>162672535
dont forget modern ammunition for russian tanks and broken 88mm german shells
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>>162672535
Do colisions still make you glitch through the floor and into the sky?
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>When your team is desperate for that defeat.

Why does no one ever buy/play the sentinel Mk.4? its a sherman firefly that is actually good.
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>>162672535
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>>162661289
>tfw i play arty and have an E-25
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>>162673108
>>
what to do if you were humiliated in front of your crush when you were right about something and now your crush only pities you.
>fat fuck neet
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>>162675227
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>>162675227
>3D
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>>162675740
>>162675718
shes a virgin with no bfs.
>>
>>162675892
just be yourself desu, works for me
>>
>>162675892
Does she like you back or is she doing that stupid shit where they use you for attention to make themselves feel better?
>>
>>162675227
>humiliated in front of your crush
there's no guarantee the feeling is reciprocal so who cares
>>
>>162675979
being an engineering dropout in prep school doesnt do wonders for me
>>162676059
she might have liked me b4 i got fucked
>>162676087
we were born on the same day a month apart and I'd like to make it reciprocal
>>
>>162676238
Ignore whatever is making you feel insecure and move on.

Making a big deal about it in your head when she has prob already forgotten about it.

They live in the now and for some reason forget shit all the time unless it keeps happening.
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>>162676238
>we were born on the same day a month apart
ok
>I'd like to make it reciprocal
you can't make her like you, first impression is usually the deal breaker unless you hang out with her a shit ton
>>
>>162676420
>eggs

DELET THIS!!!!
>>
>>162676576
cat girls are furries
>>
>>162676396
how ? im pretty depressed atm
>>162676420
im awkward as fuck too. i might be fucked.
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>>162676607
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>162676681
Stop overthinking shit.
That makes you nervous and they smell that shit from a mile away.
Also don't talk without thinking or you will say some seriously stupid shit.
>>
>>162676681
>depressed
do you have a job?
are you working towards a future goal?
do you have friends or family to talk to?
do you have a hobby that you unironically enjoy?

if no then sort that shit out before you even attempt to get involved with someone else.
>>
>>162675979
Because you are a chad
>>
>>162676763
worst of all I fell for a normie. there's also another one after her and he is social charming and brain ded. she hangs out with him frequently and i think they might get together b4 i even get close to her. and she will prob. friendzone me or just talk to be polite or shit.
>>
>>162676949
no,
losing weight,
2 friends, raised by a single mother so lots of issues,
idk desu
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>>162677142
>she hangs out with him frequently and i think they might get together b4 i even get close to her

F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4V3Mo61fJM
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>>162677395
>No job
welp you're screwed

if you werre charming enough then a wageslave job would have been satisfactory enough for the moment
>>
>>162677395
just play tanks
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:3
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>>162678130
>>162677976
>>162677735
thanks guys youre more family to me than my family ever was
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>>162678693
don't worry /wotg/ can be your mommy for the night
>>
I want to go fast and have a strong gun, what line should I go through?
>>
>>162679190
russian heavies
>>
>>162679190
E5
>>
>>162679239
The IS-7 really doesn't ever go fast unless it's down a 40 degree slope
>>
>>162679190
Anything French
>>
>>162679712
T-10
>>
>>162680081
Yes, that is the one actually fast tank in the line, congratulations
>>
>>162679190

American T49 light tank.

But if you are only interested in speed; the Pz.1c.
>>
>>162679190
American heavies are decently quick for being traditional heavies

French heavies are fast and have good guns

Chinese heavies are fast and have high alpha
>>
>>162676949
>I don't understand mental health response
>>
what country has best arty? i wanna know before I get the s-51 and regret it
>>
>>162681049
CGC is the best arty in the game, hands down

261 is second best
>>
Tiers 3 and 4 should have +/-1 mm

WGs bleeding players and those fuckheads can't come up with anything.
>>
>>162682687
>everybody should have +1 MM
ftfy
>>
>>162682687
Whole game should have +/-1 mm
>>
>2016 about to end
>shitters still can't press 2
>>
>2016 about to end
>statpadders still don't know how to aim
>>
>2016 about to end
>2017 about to begin
Fucking Wargaming
>>
So, if I have this right:
>>162679239
Not that slow, it's big
>>162679342
Another fast-ish heavy
>>162679902
Everything here is fast, even the heavies
>>162680478
Pretty fast until later on where it just becomes kind of fast
>>162680679
Already explained

Are there other things I should think about? As interesting as it sounds to just grab the fastest thing out there, I'm going to be grinding for a while, right? What's the fastest thing that's also "good enough" in things that I should be worrying about? Or alternatively the best thing that's fast enough?
>>
>>162683737
>162683737
Russian IS line.
>>
>>162683737
American heavy line is the best line in the game tbqh
T1 heavy is decent
M6 is good
T29 is one of the strongest tanks, tier for tier, in the game
T32 is amazing
M103 is alright
E5 is currently the strongest tank in the game

IS7 is a close second
>>
>>162683320
this, fucking unforgivable
>>
>2016 about to end
>you still don't have a T49
>>
>too scared to buy a tank in case there's a tier 6/7 tank discount on NA
what do i do
>>
>>162684431
suffer
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CAT

GIRLS

ARE

FURRIES
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>>162685289
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>>162685289
>>
>>162685289
I bet you think swedes are well dressed
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power grind credits and you wouldn't care about purchasing tier 6s
>>
What is a good clan that a non unicum like me could get into that isn't:
MAHOU or _FAM_
A dad clan
A redditor clan
A clan full of """"""good"""""" players
A clan that doesn't speak Chinese
>>
>>162686693
>IS-6
>>
>>162687092

give me a better premium tank that doesn't require sending real money to russians
>>
>>162687054
NOPAN
>>
>>162687054

every clan is reddit
the other points are just trash piled ontop of this base
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>>162687494
>What is a good clan that isn't MAHOU
>Yuro thinks that MAHOU is an EU clan
>>
>>162687054
>non-unicum
>clan
for what purpose
also join PLSGO
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>>162687646
>Implying there are good NA clans

I can understand why he posted a EU clan
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>>162687054
uhhh fucking none, sorry
incredibly unrealistic standards (go figure), just join AWOO and be content with being a fluffy shitter
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>>162687054
dad clan known as goyim
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>>162613975
NOPAN: 14 tanks for 44 members - 31%

PLSGO: 19 tanks for 75 members - 25%

and that's with much higher requirements (1.8k wn8 vs 1k for NOPAN)

lmaoing at you fags
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>>162689483
>not even 15 reward tanks
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>>162689690
next year :3
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>>162689690
cross server stronghold attacks when so we can put you shitters in your place
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>>162687054
>a good clan that a non unicum
None. Not on NA anyway.
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>>162689483
>squap
What did she mean by this
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PZMOE > PLSGO
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how do i reach these keeeds
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>>162689996

plsgo and ntr haven't won against pzmoe in cw yet
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>>162690101
>almost 700k of free xp
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>just wont a close range brawl 1v4 in my T-34 because a friendly Pz I C flipped over and I used him as a shield
>he survived the fight and I flipped him over afterwards

this is why I play this game
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>>162690864
gotta get that day 1 tier 10
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>have SU-152
>unlock ISU
>click 'Sell' on SU-152
>nothing happens
russian bias, I can't get it out of my garage
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I just want people at least as good as me to platoon with
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>>162692248
don't be shy, ask in ingame chat
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>>162692248
the highest tank I have is t-34 and im pretty sure my wr is below 50

can i join
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>>162692248
how good are you?
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>>162692248
ign?
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>>162692580
2100 wn8
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>>162692934

"""""""""""green""""""""""""""
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""good"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>162692934
are you the 113 person? because I have platooned with him recently
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>>162692980
No need for autism

>>162693001
Yes
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>52 gold
>2,882 credits

send helb
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>he's playing tanks
>when he could be sitting in bed being comfy
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>>162693603
>not playing tanks in bed
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why can't we have naziboo shitposting arguments like /wtg/
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>load he
>enemy doesn't
rude
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>>162695561
We are literally too intelligent for that.
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>>162695561
naziboos get rightfully laughed out of this thread or they grow a thick skin and pretend they have the moral high ground when people dismiss their moronic claims
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the sherman was a shit tank
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>lakeville with 4 arty
>all 3 scouts yolo valley and die to tds
i swear the must be a weekly worst plays in wot that people try to get on.
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>>162696170
that's a bold claim
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>>162696290
i have very well backed up sources:
deathtraps by belton cooper
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>>162695561
Wtg is trash, there is no discussion of the game in that general. If you even try you only get shitposts. Even reddit would be a better place to get some info.

>cuck captcha
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>>162695561
Wehraboos were run out of the thread in 2012
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>>162696518
I don't think so
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>>162696513
>Wtg is trash
That implies wotg isnt
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>>162693281
You fucked up my nigga.

Go into your Depot (Click the Armory tab in between Garage and Service Record, then select the Depot tab) and sell modules/shells you don't need. Under "compatible with" select all vehicles, check all the module types, and under "display" check the box for in depot and make sure the other two options are unchecked.

You can also do this from the tech tree, just click on a tank then right click the modules you aren't currently using (basically sell the stock/mid tier modules once you have the upgraded ones) and select the sell option. I prefer doing this because you can be more specific about what you sell so you don't accidentally sell something you might actually want/need later. Because who the fuck actually remembers random modules and what tanks they go on.

The depot option is best for selling mass quantities of modules for max credits in a short period of time. The tech tree option gives you more control over what you actually sell in case you want to switch modules later (there may be times where you may be using the wrong gun or something when another option is actually better) I don't know if you are good/experienced enough to distinguish what modules are good or not. Worst case scenario you can always re-buy them later.

Hopefully this help.
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>>162697194
Thanks friend. Managed to fix up my tenks off the back of shitty old russian guns.
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tfw 48% winrate
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friendly reminder that ru players are far better than eu or na, and the majority of players that have played on all of the servers can attest to this fact.
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>>162697194
Somehow I acquired 16 unused radios.
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>>162671142
>dead server
>20+ more members
choose 1 excuse yuros
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NOPAN: 22 members with at least 20 battles in the campaign (14 tanks)
PLSGO: 21 members with at least 20 battles in the campaign (19 tanks)
>excuse simulator
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I can't decide between getting the object 268, t11OE4 or t11OE3
What say you guys.
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>>162703748
Grille 15
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>>162703748
>O
Get the T110E3 boi

268 and E4 are garbo
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>Put the BL-10 on the ISU
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>>162695561
The panther and the stug were pretty good desu
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>>162704302
>ISU in 2016
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>>162703994
On Xbox one and already have the auf
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>>162704190
Yeah? Just it's alot slower then the others especially the t95 so that's a big turn off, but that armor
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>>162704758
Panther was typical overengineered trash

Stug was fucking great and the kind of design Germany should've been focusing on
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>>162704783
>He doesn't like clicking on people for 800 at tier 8
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>I have Snapshot on my turretless TD crew
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>>162705323
>Stug was fucking great and the kind of design Germany should've been focusing on
This desu. The only shortcomings it had were no turret (that's what infantry is for anyway), and it wasn't as cheap as it could possible be (compared to E-10/E-25 but those came way later and were just designs). Germany should have just shat out Stugs all war long for all the good their later designs did.
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>>162705323
>i get my info from /wtg/ slavaboos the post

later panther models were not only good but also cheap in general compared to the tiger series
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>>162705707
>compared to the tiger series

>this new Rolls Royce is cheap as chips compared to that Bugatti!

The Panther was overengineered trash. Maybe not as over engineered trash as the Tiggers, but overengineered trash nonetheless. It broke down, required high maintenance and lost as many tanks to mechanical failures as it did to allied guns.
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>>162704965
It has armor and actually good gun handling unlike the E4 and 268, along with a 375 pen APCR round

It's the best TD in the game at the moment
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>>162705874
>panther tank cost 60k to produce compared to the pz4 46k

so expensive and a waste right?
how about you stop parroting the leading opinion on 4leaf because its what people on /wtg/ told you and actually do some research
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>This is the state of NTR
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>>162706327
Do you wank to source your claims or are you literally just going to post a number and expect people to believe it?

Also why the fuck do you keep saying /wtg/, did the naziboos get run out over there and you're taking cover here or something?
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>>162706503
http://knowledgeglue.com/cost-ww2-vehicles/
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So what other tank games will you be playing while WoT servers are down for the update?
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This game is terrible
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>>162706473
I'll have you know there's about another 4 or 5 of us that still play on a semi-regular basis.
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>>162706993

reducing the RNG by 20% would help at least a little bit.
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>>162706915
Linking a blog that doesn't cite any of it's sources either isn't a source, you realise? Even less so a no-name random blog run by a single person.
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>>162707037
>maus on malinovka with 3 arti
F U N
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>>162707037
>Nutmeg in a German tank
lmao what a surprise
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>>162707125
>try to play hoovy tank
>slammed on Sand River, Malinovka, Prokhorovka nonstop
>play light tenk
>Himmelsdorf, Ensk
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>Ich made it
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>>162707328
>these clowns somehow got tanks
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>>162707456
Insults will get you nothing
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>>162707114
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank
>Unitcost 117,100 Reichmarks

so far im the only one posting sources and not parroting stupid shit i heard on here.

you ask me to post proof of my statements when you are the one posting shit without any backup
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People keep saying the M60 is just a bad M48, but what the hell? It's only missing 150 DPM and some irrelevant hull armour it trades for actually good shit. Less DPM is bad for sure, but people act like the Fatton is fucking god-sent and the M60 is irredeemable garbage. The fuck?
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>>162707645
Well, I thank you for actually posting a source;

Now I'm going to point out that your quotes of the cost have nothing to do with the Panthers reliability, overengineering and maintenance needed. To quote my sources for this, how about we get good ol' Guderian himself:

>Due to enemy action and mechanical breakdowns, the combat strength sank rapidly during the first few days. By the evening of 10 July there were only 10 operational Panthers in the front line. 25 Panthers had been lost as total writeoffs (23 were hit and burnt and two had caught fire during the approach march). 100 Panthers were in need of repair (56 were damaged by hits and mines and 44 by mechanical breakdown). 60 percent of the mechanical breakdowns could be easily repaired. Approximately 40 Panthers had already been repaired and were on the way to the front. About 25 still had not been recovered by the repair service ... On the evening of 11 July, 38 Panthers were operational, 31 were total write-offs and 131 were in need of repair

To add even more hilarity to that, when disembarking the trains at Kursk, TWO Panthers immediately had their engines catch fire and had to be written off.
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>>162707546
Not an argument
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>>162708041
>Engine reliability improved over time. A French assessment in 1947 of their stock of captured Normandy Panther A tanks concluded that the engine had an average life of 1,000km (620mi) and maximum life of 1,500km (930mi)

later models fixed the crippling issues of the early models, 1000km avarage engine lifetime on an engine is good even by todays standards (was an army tanker and i know very well how often the engines get replaced)

for the mere cost of 60k you got hands down the best tank of the war when shermans and pz4 tanks costed 45k to produce.

t34/76 was half the cost but you got a literal shit bucket with awful crew comfort and optics with no radios.

people here like to shit on german tanks because they are held in high regard outside 4chan and 4chan needs to be a special snowflake.

while some german tanks were literal money pits the panther was not one of them.
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>>162708863
I love how you quoted the last bit of the wikipedia section on the engine, and don't mention the previous mentions of poor ventilation and improper fuel seals resulting in a high risk of engine fire.

And that's to only consider the engine. The Panther still had the typical overcomplicated interleaved roadwheels, which made maintenance and repairs an absolute cunt to do compared to more conventional designs; or how it would constantly clog with ice and mud, something the eastern front had in plenty servings.

Or how about we consider it's infamous transmission and drivetrain; originally made for a 30 ton tank, and then had a 45 ton tank stuck on it instead. Additionally, they were rather complex things, which they were making with slave labour and a lack of metal for the alloys. Just a recipe for disaster, that is.

Your tankfu was a shitty, overweight, broken down piece of shit. A tanks quality matters fuck all if you can't ever get it to the battlefield in the first place. But who am I kidding; you're so deep into the naziboo mindset that you're probably not even going to get this far reading my post, instead you're going to skim read it and just say "nu uh ur rong".
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>time to cuck some sweds
>mm tries to give me the dick
>still cucking

:ok_hand:
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>>162707456
>cipher on suicide watch
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I've heard it mentioned that the newly established Bundeswehr considered implementing modernised Panthers as their main tanks.

Could there be any truth to this?
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>>162709508
>literally calling me a naziboo

are you retarded?
for its cost it was easily the best tank available in the war, you bring up issues with the tank as if other tanks did not have issues themself.
soviet hulls cracking open (welding issue) and then fact they had hand cranked turrets with piss poor visibility in a awfully cramped space.
shemans with the crippling inadequate cannons for tank combat along with the famous gasoline engines.
british with the outdated tank designs in general.

you blame low quality metal as if its the fault of the tank itself?

are you so fucking sheltered you cant be called out on being a parroting faggot without throwing a fit?

panther was easily the best value for money tank made in the war, this isnt even an arguement.

this is not about what side the tank fought on its simply about the cost of the unit and what you got with it.
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>server goes down right as my match was about to end

JUDAISM
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T8 prem discounts when?
i wanna pick up an m4 ravioli after the buffs
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>gore
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>>162713191
What on earth did that even USE to be? Ferdi?
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>>162713191
are those things on the side where you mount the oars for the slaves???
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Secret armor buff confirmed
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>>162711720
>for its cost it was easily the best tank available in the war
But that was the PzIV, You silly Wehraboo.
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>bounced two shots off the chaffee
>at point blank range
>in the t-34 with the 57mm gun
>firing straight into its side
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>>162713436
Nope, it was the T-34.
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>>162711720
>for its cost it was easily the best tank available in the war
I'm pretty sure this is bait at this point
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>>162713436
The T-34 was so superior to the Pz. 4 that when faced with a full tank battalion the Germans would be forced to send their Tigers as the spear tip because the Pz 4s had a hell of a time pennatrating the slopped armor.
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>>162713436
>2/3 of the cost for a tank with outdated armor/gun
>better value
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>>162713678
>save all that money immensely by not having to repair the tank three times a day and send it back to the factory every other week
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>get T8 tank
>excited
>but you don't have a T34 money printing machine.

I'm just gonna wait for the Super Pershing buff and buy premium.

Why the fuck do they cost so damn much? Why?
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>>162713736
>Not an over engineered piece of shit that the crew can usually fix themselves.

Stop baiting.
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>>162713789
>Why the fuck do they cost so damn much? Why?
Because people will buy them
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>>162707328
ich got the tank
Hat didn't.
What a strange time to live.
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>>162713736
You're still talking about the German tanks right? Because that's an extremely German thing.

>>162713824
It's not even real fucking money.
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>>162713736
>have to order a brand new one because a t34 half the cost landed a shot on it and made it pop
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>>162713865
>>162713881
>>162713815
what fucking tank are we even talking about anymore

I get the distinct impression we're all thinking of at least three different tanks
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>>162713921
Anything german that broke was a bitch to fix and they had too many specialized parts.


Russian tanks that broke were so simple that slav magic would fix them in no time.
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>>162713921
I swear to Ivan >>162713736 is still talking about German tanks. That's an old trope about German cars and tanks.
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>>162713678
>2/3 of the cost
>citation needed
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>>162714021
>>162714015
Can we just agree to move on

This shits hurting my brain
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>>162714061
see
>>162706915
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>>162714115
see
>>162707114
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>>162714115

>These figures did not include the cost of the armament and radio.
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>>162714156
>i cant fucking google but will instead call someones source invalid while unable to provide my own

Panzer 4
Unitcost≈103,462Reichmarks
Panther
Unitcost=117,100Reichmarks

source: wiki
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>>162714381
Why should I provide a source for someone else post, dipshit?
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>>162714381
That looks bretty inflated for PzIV, famalam
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>>162714446
>>162714381
again
>These figures did not include the cost of the armament and radio.

You can bet your ass the 75mm KwK 42 cost a far sight more than the KwK 40
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>be German
>car breaks down
>prepare to work on it
>realize the car isn't driven by a drive train but a gravity manipulator that accelerates and steers the car by distorting gravity around the axle
>you realize it's out of the soul's of prepubescent girls that fuel the gravity manipulator
>as you walk inside to order more you remember to re calibrate the weather machine used to generate micro rain storms to water your lawn.
>Your AI house assistant only opens the door once you've solved the riddles pertaining to your childhood
>you log onto the Internet to order more souls, but it's a bit slow today because the moon in which your ISP resides is on the other side of the planet.
>my genetically created pet dog is hungry for his weekly food supplement
>after feeding my dog, I decide to rest in my cyro storage tank that allows me to live an extra 5 years if used nightly.
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>>162714446
im pretty sure wiki is more reliable than some anonymous person on a taiwanese mud carving forum
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>>162714528
10/10
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>>162714528
>out of souls of prepubescent girls
like any German would ever run out of them. I'm tired of these bullshit stories on 4chan
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>>162714528
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>>162714513
Anti Tank Guns.
$2,292. 3.7cm/45 Pak 36.
$4,240. 5cm/60 Pak 38
$4,800. 7.5cm/48 Pak 40.

lets assume the 42 was 6000, this puts the tank at 68000 total with radio equipment while the pz4 was 46000

how the fuck can people say with a straight face that it was expensive considering what you got in return?

this is the only place google could find me a number while looking up the cost but considering the veichle price itself is consistent with the wiki its the best there is:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=149803&start=30

before some faggot goes on with another claim atleast fucking put a source in your post instead of parroting shit you heard in a random thread.
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hello where is tank
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>>162714950
Why are you asking OTHER PEOPLE to source YOUR CLAIMS?

That's not how it works anon, you find a valid source to back up YOUR CLAIMS or you fuck off. Not some random dude on an internet forum from the mid 2000s, and for fucking sure as shit not you "assumptions" on what the cost of the gun would be.
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>>162714513
>Armored Vehicles.These prices include weapons and other normally installed equipment.
>$60,000. Panzer Mk V (Panther) tank. 75mm/70 main gun. 80mm armor.
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>>162715173
Let me refer you to >>162715103

Some random dude on an internet forum from the mid 2000s is in fact not a valid source. Surprisingly.
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>>162714950
>>162714513
>>162714446
>>162714381

This is a retarded conversation because no matter the outcome of which tank costs more, the T-34 will always cost less in terms of economic impact due many factors. These are two completely different economies with vastly different industrial capacity. Russia was far better equipped to build the T-34 than Germany was to build the Pz. 4, especially late war.

You can't look at this in a bubble and say "yes the Pz. 4 or T-34 was technically cheaper so this proves my point." No it was always easier for the Russians to spam T-34s than it was for Germany to produce the Pz. 4.
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>>162715271
I mean

I'm still just arguing that the Panther was a piece of shit and they should've produced the Stug 24/7/365
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>>162714963
in garege
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>>162715319
The turretless tank Destroyer STUG? No. There's a reason that never caught on post WW2.

The Panther would have been an amazing tank if the Germans weren't didn't crudely build it because they didn't have the appropriate resources to build it.

However it didn't matter because the Germans didn't lose the war due to missing managing their conventional war prototypes.
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What should I do to make the most of my Sherman Jumbo? I have a med cal gun rammer, and vents. I'm useing the stock turret with the 105.
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>>162715576
Stop using the noob tube.
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>>162715498
>The turretless tank Destroyer STUG? No. There's a reason that never caught on post WW2.
yeah, not like it had the one of the highest kill count out of any of the german AFVs or their most produced vehicle or anything silly like that

You can "Would've, could've, should've" all day long, the StuG was a more effective and more practical design to produce than the Panther.
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>>162715243
a random dude providing information on a forum is alot more helpful than your "nuh-ugh panther was bad" argument.

Wiki is by far the most reliable source here, costs of both veichles are posted there.

Pz4 was 2/3 if not more of a panther according to it.
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>tfw finally gun depression and handling
Feels comfy man
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>>162715637
Yeah I'd imagine turretless tank Destroyers would rack up kills in an army that played defense throughout a large part of the war and got to play mainly in the open fields of Europe and North Africa and got to camp street when defending a city.
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>>162715760
>Pz4 was 2/3 if not more of a panther according to it.
Again, without gun or radio, you fucking thick motherfucker. And again, you can bet your fucking ass that the high velocity 75mm anti-tank gun the Panther had was more expensive than the 75mm the Panzer had, if you just combine physics and common sense.
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>>162715838
>you can bet your fucking ass that the high velocity 75mm anti-tank gun the Panther

thats not how this works remember?
source pls
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>>162715629
What should I use for my last equipment slot

Also a1 76 with the strong turret or a2 with the weaker turret? I like my stronk turret
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>>162716132
VERTICAL STABILIZER

EVERYTIME

ALWAYS

ON 99% OF TANKS

Yes the strong turret. The A2 is simply a RoF increase but I'd rather go hull down.
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>>162716132
What you should do is when top tier pretend you're a heavy tank and go city.

When you're not top tier act as a heavily armored medium tank and go where ever the mediums are supposed to go. Don't try and play with an IS-6 or KV-3.
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>>162716406
I actually have killed an IS-6 1 on 1 in my e2, he was an ultra shitter tho. Still, shit was funny
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I'm gonna go jack off to anime horse porn, wake me up when NA is back up
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>>162716557
>a shitter bought an IS-6

There needs to be a guide from WG on what tank to buy depending on how shit you are.

You're shit or new? Buy the Super Pershing or T34

You're alright? An IS-6, chicken, Merica

You're above average? Anything but the T-34-3

You carry the game everytime? The T-34-3.
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>>162716928
ok lukefas
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>>162655690

"Siemka PL!"
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>>162713278
I was considering Panther or Tiger II but I guess that this is Panthers hull, because the frontal plate aint that thick
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>>162716928
youre so gay lmao
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is of up
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>>162706950
Is this armoured warfare?
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>>162717943
yea
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>have AMX AC 48 in garage with ~120k XP on it
>I hate it and suck with it
>have decent crew in it
>I'm not intending to play any of the high tier Croissant TDs
>I'm torn between simply selling it or grinding out the rest of the XP with 2x first
>no room in barracks for the crew

Wat do?

Probably I'll just buy a low tier French vehicle to store the crew in it and sell this piece of shit.
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>>162718182
You can store them on any french tank btw doesn't have to be TD.
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T67 statpadders need to fucking die
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>>162718667
I fear whenever I see a T67; not because it's that amazing, but because I know with 99% certainty the person in it is way better than me and is going to assfuck me
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>>162718732
I only play OP ass tanks in those tiers so I am not afraid.
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why do people praise the T67 as such a good padder when literally any T8 prem med is just as good or T9 mediums in general.
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>>162718869
You don't have to play against the somewhat more competent T8-T10 players with a T5 tank.
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>>162718182
>no room in barracks for the crew
How do you even run out of barracks space when you can just accumulate rental tanks and dump unused crews in them?
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>he didnt have 100k free exp saved up to progress right past shit tiers

KEK
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>no kr pen buff
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>>162719553
I got the Tier 6 but I'm gonna atleast get the tier 7 before I start playing the TD's
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Which swede class should I do
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>>162714381
>not counting the Panther needed far more mantainance
>not counting the Panther needed far more fuel
>not counting the Panther broke down far more often
At Kursk 2 Panthers catched on fire on their own as disembarking from the trains, in 2 weeks from the total batch of 200 vehicles only 40 were still operational mostly due to break-downs
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>>162719553
i saved all my exp because all their tiers are shit :^)
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>>162719815
There's only one and it's Cuck
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>>162719815
upper cuck tree for the cuck meme td
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>completely uninterested in arab tanks
>no discounts on tier VIII prems yet so i can't buy new buffed shit either
>still can't pick reward tank
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>some czech faggot puts 3 shots into a teammate for no reason
>turns blue
>tk him
>2 more people turn blue because they kill me for "tk noob repot omg"


what the fuck happened

i swear 2-3 years ago whenever someone turned blue from team damage, half the team would drop whatever they were doing and execute the faggot with a barrage of shells
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>>162719553
>he gave wargaming jews shekels

KEK
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>>162720542
you know you get free exp from battles right?

not everyone has to resort to spending money to get free exp
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Are there any tier 8+ medium tanks in this game with reliable turret armor to actually give a meaning to gun depression and being hull down? I thought Americans meds were supposed to have some frontal turret armor at least, but that's not the case.
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>>162687054
SNPAI
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>>162720846
russians and tier X jap
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WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MY BABY?!
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>>162629497
>Grille 15 or Foch 155?
The Ferrari 155 isn't what it used to be
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>>162720846
Turret armor and gun depression on a medium? Those requests are getting pretty specific there bro and I think you are going to be letdown.
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>>162720846
And about the closes you are going to get to that specific tank is the Super Pershing and its turret is also its primary weak point at the same time. If you want turret armor and gun depression you are going to have to look in to heavy tanks and TDs that used to be heavy tanks.
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>decide to grind from 30k xp on Jagdtiger to eliting it in one day
>fucking server maintenance after getting 90k more xp
Reeeee I was gonna do it! I don't get autistic grinding urges like this often and WG ruined it!
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>IS-3A just little over the budget I'm willing to spend
whew, thanks JudeGaming
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>>162721414
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>mfw salty NEETs call my brand new PREMIUM tank OP
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>>162722103

Aside from more DPM, does it have any advantage over standard IS-3? As far as I know, same hull armor, very similar turret, same matchmaking, worse gun handling, so why would it worth any money in the first place?
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>>162722357
double the income and crew exp ?
>>
Haven't played the game in like, 2 years.
Is it still complete trash?

Have they buffed KV-5?
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>>162722357
>does it have any advantage over standard IS-3
I remember when being a premium tank meant being comparable, but with many disadvantages.
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>>162722580
>still
it was always shit
>Have they buffed KV-5?
it got HD model which has somewhat better armor if I'm not wrong
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>>162722495
its awful for crew training since it has no loader

but if you really like the IS3 and you want to farm credits its pretty good.

gun handling and mobility on it is worse than standard IS3 but it does have 1400m/s APCR as standard shell with some of the best DPM in the tier
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tank when
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Oh my god. The tier 1 cuck tank is a little green penis.
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>>162722959
Somebody said 15:00
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>>162722983
Im sure there is a mod to turn it black if thats more your thing.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

KEKMOBILES HERE I COME
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>>162722983
>>162723296
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>>162723758
l-lewd
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>want to get ace tanker on 59-16 before I sell it
>keep getting first class
>over and over again
>hemorrhaging credits because full APCR is the only way to make the autoloader work
FUCK
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>>162723915
>full ap-cr is the only way to make the auto loader work
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>>162723971
Nigga the gun's AP has 85 pen and I'm fighting against IS-3s
Fuck you I'm loading gold
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>>162724160
Mate, just get their sides or ass.
you're playing the tank wrong in the first place if you're fighting heavies.
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>>162723915
>full APCR
50/50 is enough
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What do you guys think of the Cent I?
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>>162724998
it's garbage
>>
Come on you Russian Jewish faggots put the E25 up.
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>>162724998
it's decent
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>>162725097
>>162725185
What did /wotg/ mean by this?
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>>162725357
Britbongs are wehrboo tier delusional, they will praise their trash tanks regardless of their ingame performance
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>>162725357
Cent I is a good tank
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just got the 103b and kran

send help
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Hi lads, haven't been playing the game for 2 years now and reinstalled it. Whats the current meta? Soviet mediums still god tier? Hows the czech line? And which is the best non-premium moneyprinter? Ty flamingos
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>>162725490
I'm not a bong though.
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>inna sweed t2 td
>so is everyone else
>"So, consensus on sweed tanks?"
>BORK BORK BORK
>ITS LIKE SHOPPING AT IKEA

About right, I think.
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>>162726436
>Whats the current meta?
E5, heavy tanks in general.

>Soviet mediums still god tier?
Yes, for mediums.

>Hows the czech line?
Great pub damage farmers.

>And which is the best non-premium moneyprinter?
Work harder.
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>>162725139

I second that. Too bad I wasn't aware of it being this OP when I even had unused gold which I'm still sitting on with no idea what premium to buy.
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about to unlock the IS-7, my first Tier 10 tonk

How is it? the gun is medicore-average as far as Im aware, good alpha, average pen for Tier 10 but shitty accuracy, but hows the armor? it really is trollish? I'm kinda frustrated with the T-10, im a shitter so I can't really really do well on the T-10 except if the majority of the enemy team is more retarded than mine.
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>>162726436
>non premium money printer.

Lol.
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>>162726807

The armor is very trollish. Regardless of you or the enemy plays it.
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>>162726807
The IS-7 is a mobile heavy tank. It's very quick and it has ADEQUATE armor. You're not driving an IS-4 or a Maus or E100. If you put your face out expect to be pinned and be happy when it bounces.

You are NOT a super heavy. You are NOT a super heavy. You are NOT a super heavy. Use your mobility or you'll be irrelevant.
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>>162726807
turret is practically impenetrable, front hull isn't very good vs tier 10 good, the gun is better than it looks
shoot APCR
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>>162726807
Best scout
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>>162726906
>>162726942
>>162727030


I did very well with the IS-3 when sidescraping, I know I need to hide my lower glacis but at least I can expect some kind of "trust" with the armor right? T-10 is absolutly disgusting armor wise

Also is facehugging a viable tactic with the IS-7? I know it has a tiny weakspot when the gun elevates some degrees, but I don't really know if the upper hull is actually good, I know you need to hide the LFG for sure
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>>162726807
>but hows the armor?
magic if you're shit
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>>162727143

The turret armor great, front hull armor is mediocre, I wouldn't sidescrape/reverse sidescrape with this tank though, on its tier the side armor is not that great as on IS-3 I guess, but still really competitive. Facehugging is quite viable in my opinion. because of the immense turret armor and the factory default angled hull armor head-on.

IS-8/T-10 is a joke.
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>>162723227
that person lied
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>>162727982
Was probably just guessing off previous campaigns
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>>162727856
>T-10 is a joke
t. reddest red
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>>162727143
>sidescraping is7
dont
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>>162728116
oh shit, guess I'll just hide the LFG and that's it
>>
any invite codes still working ?
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>>162727143
Face hugging against taller tanks will get your top armor over matched.
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>vanilla wot
absolutely disgusting
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>>162728809
I don't need anime girls whispering in my ear that artillery hit me.
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Well ain't that some shit.
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>>162728809
>modded wot
only reason to mod wot is for catgirls and cheats.

both are disgusting.
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>>162729050
Neither do I, but I need a crosshair that isn't shit.
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>>162729259
vanilla crosshair is just fine if you tweak it
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>>162729259
solid circle, aimpoint, turn off transparencies for everything else is pretty solid
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>>162728092
am jealous anon
>>
Looks like its tomorrow the tanks
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>>162729510
>Shitstain
There is nothing to be jealous about
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>>162729760
>free tier 8 prem with decent performance
there is actually
>>
At what tier is it worth keeping your crew around when you are just passing over garbage tanks.
>>
How important is to have camo crew skill on high tier meds, like T-54, Type 59, Pershing, etc.?

Does it make a notable difference at all? Usually I go for BiA and repairs (for fast track repairs) on mediums. Should I train camo as 3rd/4th skill?
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>>162729951
five and up
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>>162729760
Idk I kinda want it. I'll just never get it now, and it bums me out.

Closest thing I'll ever get to a Chieftain, anyway
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>>162730121
they'll give it away again in the next spring campaign most likely
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>>162730020
sixth sense
smooth ride
snap shot
safe stowage
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>>162730163
Need to find myself a clan that can actually achieve that then.

5 years of playing, not a single game played outside of random battles.

t. yellow 1350 WN8 5k games played
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>>162729951

when you can retrain them to the next tank at a level higher than 75%
something like when the crew is at 87%
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>>162730228
grind an IS-3 if you don't have one already and join NOPAN
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>>162729105
>3k dmg ace
wtf it took me 5k in the t54lw
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>>162720883
L
O
L

Those guys were a bunch of cunt weebs
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>>162730224

Okay, but how important/beneficial is to have camo trained as well?
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>>162730295
I have a cromwell if that counts

No IS-3 though. I've only just got the Conqueror unlocked
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>>162729894
>free
i hate this meme
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>>162730734
Cromwell is ok, but the chieftain is a reward for tier 8 campaigns so you'd need an IS-3 by then if you want one
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So did the patch happen for na aswell today or just eu?
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>>162730807
yeah, because playing videogames is so much hard work
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>>162730860
na
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>>162730814
Not to be picky but why the IS-3 in particular? Is it the meta tank? Why not the Cent 1, T32 or T34
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>>162730734
I only have the Cromwell too.
I have the IS and T37 researched and am making my way to the IS3.
Just mention what your planned tank lines are and you should get in like I did.
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>>162731108
Cent 1 and T34 are shit for competitive stuff, T32 is good but situational, we rarely use more than a couple, if at all. IS-3 is the universal pick, 54 lightweight too, but it's better with good players
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>>162731108
Is-3 and t53 ltwt are the main t8 meta. And it is easier to for aomeobe bad to do good in a is-3 as the tank is retard proof.
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I know it's not much yet. I keep improving it and 99% of this score is random solo, very rarely played platoon.
What are the requirements for NOPAN to enlist me?
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>>162731290
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>>162731290
>joining a shit clan filled with weebs
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>>162730020
iirc protopard has light tier camovalues
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>>162731356
>discord

Nevermind.
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>>162731360
>hating us cuz u anus
>>162731465
what's the problem?
>>
>>162731360

And you're posting this on 4chan.
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>>162731530
>>162731584
Kys weebs
>>
>making your clan download a botnet

PZMOE is always going to be the top clan, with its use of mumble
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>>162731789
you first
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>>162731810
>trusting the FSF jew
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>>162730440
alot of good players play that thing. hell isn't it like the meta for T8 strong holds and shit.
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>>162731810
>paying to use a subpar tool
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>>162725490
Despite them revolutionising tank design and being the most successful in the Cold War? Yeah obviously a videogames depicts tanks accurately, fuck off with your uneducated bias
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>>162732073
I hardly call perfecting water boiling techniques "revolutionary".
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>>162732216
:^) go read books
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>>162732073
>post is about that most brit tanks are bad ingame but britbongs still defend them
>!ingame!
>you respond with rl facts
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>autistic brit strikes again
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>It's a nobody wants to platoon episode
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>still no reward tank
lazy ass frogs at WG EU are worthless, one Bataclan was not enough
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high speed low drag
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>>162732451
>implying he's a bong

I'm a bong and I have no doubt that the british tech tree in this game is poorly portrayed.

But then again, everyone already knows about muh russian bias. And how much wargaming L I T E R A L L Y despises us brits
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>>162732451
Who?
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>>162732508
Found one Emil II on a T9 match and that thing was a beast, killed 6 of our guys and did a fuck ton of damage, we didn't even dented it

I wish I had a buttload of free EXP to skip the first 7 tiers damn
>>
>>162732553
I didn't disagree the British tech tree is bad ingame, it is.
But when chucklefucks try and link it with the real world????
I wish people would research their facts before going "le britbong delusion"
>>
>>162732651
Nobody's claiming that the British tanks post WW2 are bad. The post is literally claiming that "bongs will defend their tanks despite how shit they are IG" or something along those lines

Calm down mate he's not wrong and you're just making yourself look like a twat
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>>162732553
>russian bias
>what are
>cromwell
>comet
>fv304
>charioteer
>conqueror
>fv215
>fv215b
>cgc
>centX
>high pen hesh

ladies and gentlemen, the people who brought you brexit
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>>162732749
>Comet
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>>162732849
qb said it was gud:^)
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>>162732749
>12 degrees of gun depression and high mobility
>not good
>>
>>162732749
>cromwell
Decent machine.

>comet
Average. More bad than good, however.

>FV304
It's okay, nothing spectacular anyway.

>charioteer
Good machine

>conqueror
Good machine, dogshit armour. Only playable to someone who actually knows what they're doing. Very difficult to carry a team in it, and the grind to the 120mm from the previous gun is horrifying.

>FV215
183mm is fun but that's about it, it's a shit tank

>fv215b
Shittest tier 10 heavy

>CGC
Best arty in game, yes.

>cent X
Literally mediocre, Entire centurion line was once amazing now it's average or below average

>HESH
it's not HEAT
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>>162733078
this post is why requirement to post should be above red
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>>162733078
>>cromwell
>decent machine
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>>162733078
>cent X
>Literally mediocre
It's the best NATO med idiot.
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>>162733078
>shittiest tier 10 heavy
Thats not the type 5 or maus
>>
>>162733287
>it's the tastiest shit!
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>>162733357
It's brave you so openly admit you're bad at the game.
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>>162733287
>this pile of shit tastes better than the other set of shit
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>>162733287
>It's the best NATO med idiot.

So why isn't it the meta? :^)
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>>162732746
I'll defend British tanks because wg sure aren't
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>>162733226
>cromwell
>bad

t. red nigger
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>>162733705
Heavies and corridors anon :^)
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>>162732749
>it's the Brexit was bad crowd
Thank you for donating to the Soros foundation, goyim
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>>162733840
>heavies
>what is BadChat
>>
>>162733791
Are you retarded? I was calling that guy dumb for saying the Cromwell is only "decent" rather than the best tier 6 med.

But I guess I was actually thinking that the Cromwell is bad, thanks Yuro shitposter
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>>162733883
>Yuro shitposter

Looks like your autism has set in, because I live in maine
>>
>weeb shitposters ruining thread again
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>>162734015
Okay

Thank you for deciding what I am thinking
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>>162733872
>BadChad
It's a pretty gud autoloader.
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>>162734056
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>>162734056
>differences in opinion
>shitposting
fuck off
>>
>see Cent X in the enemy team
>"oh these guys want to lose"
>they proceed to suicide so they can join their next game with real tanks
it's good I swear
>>
What are the chances Jewgaming release the E25 or Leaf on the advent?
>>
>leaf
yes
>E25
no
>>
>tfw have now grinded out 130k xp on jagdtiger in under 24 hours and will get jpe100 today
DESU I should have streamed my grind, I'm sure watching me descend into my current state would be entertaining.
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>>162734809
somebody call the suicidewatch
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>>162734809
holy fucking shit

Tell me you at least won the majority of the battles.
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>>162734172
t. shitposter
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>>162735257
Vast majority, somehow.
Not to mention maintaining purple wn8 the entire session.
I don't know what's going on, it's like wargaming decided I get the easiest, smoothest grind of my life today
>>
>>162735357
jesus christ

I started to grind the 28k left for my IS-7 but WG decided it was time for a loosing streak so i stopped playing asap

Congrats on that grind man
>>
>>162735460
Ty senpai, ty
I...need a rest now
>>
>>162723915
best non premium moneymaker is the matilda
>>162716928
but the is 6 is much easier to play than the superpershing
i agree with your list if you swap those 2 around
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>>162735496
keep grinding, buy the jpe100 now

GRIND ANOTHER NATION THEN
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>>162735618
Don't fucking tempt me, I got the m40/m43 not too long ago...please don't tempt me into trying to get the t92 anytime soon... I feel like a part of my being was lost today, can't lose much else
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>>162721012
>not using the Pz. B2
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>>162735762
might as well keep the momentum going :^)
>>
>>162735762
I wish I had your morale, I want to finish the grind on the IS-7 and start the grind on the swedish heavies, but knowing this game, its going to break me.
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>>162735762
Do yourself a favor and rest easy for a bit. Tanks will still be there when you return.
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>>162735934
>momentum
Nigger I have come to a dead halt already. I'm eatting some food and then getting the last 50k I need on the tigeroo, and then I'm going to hybernate for a day or so
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>>162735545
That's extremely subjective.

The Super Pershing has almost noob proof front armor and players don't have to side scrape, which is a concept that takes fine tuning and map memorization. The APCR Penn on the Super Pershing are blessed by Stalin. HE and HEAT are rendered irrelevant and artillery doesn't focus you.

The IS-6 side scraping is great, and it's gun has good DPM. But it's not a fortress and the Penn is extremely lacking even on the APCR shells.

Plus the SP is cheaper.
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>watching Dutchbeardfatman
>"i can't keep this switching swedish crews over to the next tank, chat"
>1 minute later someone says "check your gifts"
>its 14k gold
tfw no hundreds of numales with no sense of money to donate you gold and tanks
>>
>>162736428
what have you given to the community 100% free to warrant preferential treatment other than posting low quality meme frogs on a japanese panty trading website?
>>
>tfw was really looking forward to tier 7 muslim medium tank
>they fucking removed the ONE good thing about it, and now it looks like it might be the worst T7 med
Fucking why. It already had shit armor, shit gun handling, shit accuracy, shit DPM, etc., and now it also has shit maneuverability. The 60~ extra alpha it gets over other better T7s doesn't make up for it being a shitheap in every other regard now.
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>>162737521
at least the heavies seem godlike
>>
>>162737521
wrong side of sickle )))
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>>162719852
>>162714381
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ace tanker kindly donated by the KV-13 with no fire extinguisher
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easy grind
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>STB-1 with it's hydraulic suspension shitting all over soviet tanks in WT
seems like WoT is not the only game game that suffers from powercreep
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>>162739424
>>162739949
>>
>>162739424
>>162739949
>that kid
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>2 posts
>4 yous
keep 'em coming
>>
Where to shoot the cucks ??
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>>162741496
in the kuk
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>>162715791
>not using mods
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>patch day
>still no modpack
>chill out
>>
>>162742090
>still no campaign tanks
>>
Is the Lowe any good after the patch? How about the panther 8.8?
>>
>>162742090
Solo
>>
>>162742286
no
no
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>>162742090
got you covered scubbanub!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMltQ-xnYjc

you've been epic!
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>>162715791
15% discount fucking when, it should be really fun now with those buffs.
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>>162741739
>mods in the year 2016
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why the fuck do people still need mods since WG added damage log and minimap features?
they just need to add the separate server crosshair to the game like it used to be in the old files and its perfect vanilla.
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>>162742659
xvm focus
hacker mods
of course


if wg adds aslain's team panel icons that'd be nice
>>
>>162742659
>what are weak spot zones

http://wot-mod.eu/wot-weak-spot-beginners-mod/
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Old player returning after a little bit more than a year. Do the official GUP voiceover mods still work? Did they release any new versions? I heard WG changed the audio engine, so I'm not sure if my old files are still compatible.
>>
is now a good time to quit wot
I don't want to play against swedish tanks
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>>162743006
fuck off
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>>162743150
A N I M E
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>>162743006
the old files aren't compatible, but most GuP voice packs have been converted
I remade the Yukari one: https://docs.google.com/uc?authuser=0&id=0B3GCE0ckecxQY0t4ZG1UbE1IcWM&export=download
and you can find the others on the NA or EU forums probably
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>>162743302
Is this the same one ive been using or did it have to be remade for this new patch?
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>>162742659
They need that mod that says if players have a clear shot on them. That mod is a huge crutch.
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>>162743486
probably the same, I made it when they changed the sound files and haven't touched it since, it still works
>>
Why is wz-131 so good?
>>
>>162743605
more like they need to lock the speedtree + scripts folder
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>>162742402
Subscribed.
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>>162743302
Thanks friendo
I think these are the updated ones: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/398152-0917-girls-und-panzer-the-new-mod-collection/
>>
>want to play something other than tanks
>tanks is the only game I'm good at
>don't want to go through the shitter phase in another game to git gud at it
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>>162744631
What? But that is the most fun stage of starting a new game. Everything is new and exciting plus learning so much new stuff feels good even though it's useless information.
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>>162744631
>tfw your good at every game you pick up
>>
damn Lego is such a shitbox
>>
>>162745065
The shitter phase is by a considerable margin the least fun part of a game to me. I hated wot when I started the game, even before the person that convinced me to download it quit, but I can enjoy it now. The skill ceiling was something I could reach, with most games I'm simply too slow.
I tried to learn overwatch but I can't make myself play the game when the enemy team has higher levels than me, let alone play a role I'd want to play. At least I got a waifu out of it and had fun posting in /owg/
>>
WHERE

IS

MY

CLAN WARS

REWARD

TANK

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>162746182
RU was supposed to get their yesterday but was delayed until today.

So probably tomorrow for EU/NA
>>
>>162746126
But levels in overwatch mean absolutely nothing. A person at level 1 and a person at level 301 both have the same relevant 'unlocks'
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>>162746460
levels = time played
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>>162741675
I dare you mofo
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I did it.
JPE100 researched in under 24 hours.
Brb ded
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>>162748404
from a new account or did you just pop a few reserves on your main account?
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>>162748558
Had Jagdtiger with 30k xp, decided to see if I could do it, popped reserves and played all night/day. WG's 4 hour server maintenance almost fucked me, but I did it.
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>>162748790
talking about reserves, how do you actually get them? everytime I take a big break and then come back, I have like 10-15 100% more exp reserves waiting for me

Those things are life man, I need more, getting 1000exp even when loosing is amazing.

I know you can buy the 25% ones but thats nothing compared to the 100%
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>>162744631
>tfw turboshitter at Heroes and Generals but having a blast anyway
Even if i die like an idiot i still have fun
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>>162749131
I had about 30 different XP ones from the daily tank reward missions, I also ran crew xp ones (which I ran out of, can't remember what they were from) and credit reserves, I had 20 of those from the top tanker event and like 25 more from a bundle I bought a while ago. Basically, on an average win I was getting 2500 xp at least, 5k crew, and around 40k creds. With a session average wr of 70% and purple wn8, that was actually very comfy
>>
>>162742286

No idea about the Panther 8.8, but boy oh boy, the Löwe definitely seems like buffed. I don't own one myself, only encountered them as enemies. The frontal armor is much tougher and the tank itself is a lot more agile. I'd say now it is competitive.
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is the soviet tree still OP?
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>>162750424
Is putin still a huilo?
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>>162750424
Do Russians still own the game?
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>start grinding up the cucktree to get the kranvagn
>reach tier 3 in 2 battles
>hit a brick wall of being memed on by howitzers
>>
Did those filthy kikes change any stats for the new HD models? I've been waiting for them to buff the St. Emil for years now
>>
>>162751505
Some of my favorite tanks are placed in the first 3 tiers but it's boring as shit to play down there unless you pick some OP tank that's actually capable of carrying.

Guns that sound/shoot like flabby ass. Pinpoint accuracy arty. HP pools that get one shot by howitzers or a full autocannon clip. Small maps and fast tanks so little delay between a flank losing and being surrounded.

It almost makes War Thunder look like an appealing alternative if you actually want to play pre/early war tanks.
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Who /maus/ here?
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balanced cuck tank :^)
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How the hell am I supposed to gitgud in the KV-4? I still need to grind 20k exp for the big gun, can't pen shit and always end up in tier X matches. Playing the KV-3 was great, I even two-marked this tank, but the KV-4 so far is horrible. HALP
>>
swede heavys, or swede td's
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>>162754838
You can't really judge a tank until you have it fully researched. Almost all tanks are garbage while grinding their modules. With that said I have never played the KV4 line so I can't help you there.
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>>162754838
you couldn't have expected 175 pen to be adequate for a tier 8
just get the top gun and then it's a decent tank. don't bother sidescraping against higher tiers because they have the handling and penetration to hit and damage your cupola very easily
>>
>>162753776
I mean, at least in War Thunder you can completely BTFO a fellow early tank with your 37mm gun in a matter of 2-3 shots if your aim is good. In WoT, that gun will only ever do like 40 damage - meanwhile, tanks that you are more likely than not to be matched against are very likely to have guns that will just erase you with 1 shot regardless of RNG.
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>>162754262
>15 battles
Ok got my worried there for a second, still impressive as fuck.
It's going to be meta isn't it ?
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>>162755636
In T8 games yeah. In T9 and 10s you get eaten alive.
>>
What are the weaknesses of the new Swedish tanks? Given I know we're going to be seeing them around a lot now, might as well know how to counter them effectively.
>>
Gues what made it into the game
>http://tanks.gg/wot/tank/-252#tab:garage
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>>162756634
>>
>>162756634
isn't this like a IS-5? or a prototype of some sorts?

I thought the IS-5 was clan reward only
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>>162756903
Yeah but the IS-5 is just a stock T-10 with a different gun
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>>162756802
>that size of the lower front plate
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>>162756903
Nightmare fuel is what it is
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>>162757098
wonder if this objekt rusky rusky is gonna be a premium for everyone or just another clan reward
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>>162754847
PLS WHAT DO I DO
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>>162754847
>>162757280
I would pick both
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>>162757136
>it has 10mm less effective armor than IS-7
laughing time is over
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>>162757280
Heavies are just straight up better, insanely good.
The TD's are just for people who like that style.
Much weaker right now with current overmatch mechanics.
>>
>>162757449
>insanely good
Overpowered is the word you're looking for
>>
>>162757405
and people of reddit mocked me when I said the power creep is real

the frenchie, the patriot, the muslism heavies...and now this

we are in for a ride
>>
I installed XVM and now I see that the game is rigged.
Didn't had a positive win chance in 20 games!
most games are only 30% win chance.
Is XVM broken or what?
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>>162756634
How did this shit even went pass supertest, it's a fucking downtiered IS-7 but with turret """"""""""""""weakspots"""""""""""""
>>
>>162758014
rigged is not the word I'd use, but the MM likes to spice things a bit

contrary to popular belief the MM does care about wins or looses, so a general advice is to stop playing if you are getting "misterious" loosing streaks,

My limit is 5, if I loose 5 games in row, I quit for the day
>>
>>162757928
Cash grab arabic autoloaders will have WTFE100 fate, at least I hope so
>>
>>162758014
maybe you're so shit you bring your team's chances down every fucking time
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>enemy strv doesn't get the memo that overmatch is still in the game
>goes to the banana road on himmelsdorf and tries to hull down
>as i'm making my way up the hill I see that he has already lost 1500 hp
>>
>>162758332
It just keeps putting me in bottom tier with negative win chance. It just has to be rigged.
>>
Just installed xvm, it's over ridden my custom Sixth sense.
How do I fix that?
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>>162756634
>all around best armor for tier VIII heavy
>lets give it a hardest hitting gun as well)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
this game is not going to survive past 2017, right ?
>>
>>162754160

According to SirFoch "Maus will never be competitive". Because it's not a 20 mm armored racecar. What an asshat. Maus has a fucking goddamn role no other tank can fill as well, a.k.a holding a whole flank.
>>
>>162758371
also the turret armor is amazing, zero weaknesses

there is a video of some MLG dudes or something testing it

40k of damage blocked, they were all shooting at the visible part of the turret at the hill on himmelsdorf, the guy wasnt doing anything special either, just peeking over the hill like any tank with good depression would do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYT3UYnWWNs&feature=youtu.be

6:35
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>>162730440
I'm going to guess you're EU.
>>
>>162754160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rbUgnQN2x0
best tank
>>
>>162758864
muh unicum flex
>>
>>162758864
foch plays very well, but if he can't go fast then that tank is automatically shit

I mean yeah, speed>armor because you dont get hit in the first place but dude, saying the maus is shit because is slow is red tomato tier of retardness

Maus is fun, and I've seen a lot of Maus drivers that know what to do.
>>
>>162757280
I free exped both lines.

Kran is good.
TD is a situational meme.

Heavy then TD if you can only choose one.
>>
>>162759049

Dat gold spamming Obj. 140 though...
When I play my Maus I always encounter this kind of p2w motherfucker who presses the "let's win" 330 mm pen button. And yet WoT is not p2w. Sure, you have all day to farm credits for 4k+ credit shells if you don't inject shekels into your account.
>>
When are WG going to start fixing their game?
>>
>>162759410

I know he plays well, but saying you don't get hit is not true either.
I myself aim quite good and often get praised when I take out ELCs from 400+ meters. It's not that hard to calculate the place of impact if you are familiar with your tank's gun and shell velocity.
>>
>>162759946

I would like to see some balance in the shells

like "APCR does more pen but deals less alpha damage"

HEAT is fine because how it works IRL

But APCR dealing more damage to the insides of a tank than a APBCHE for example? nah man, bullshit
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wew
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>>162760041
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>Same retards who think Maus is good also cry about gold rounds
really makes u thibk.
>>
>>162760386
Shame
>>
>>162760572
factually wrong
>>
Just got back from a war thunder game and I realised how dogshit it was again after reading anons post here about it again

Hold me, guys
>>
Maus is SHIT.

Catgirls are FURRIES.

GET OVER IT.
>>
>>162760750
No, you have to go back to /wtg/ now.
>>
>>162760220

I would completely delete premium ammo from the game altogether.
Back in the day people complained about the game being p2w because you could only buy premium ammo for gold.
Then they've made them available for a LOT of credits each.
So the game is still pay to win, but in a different form.
Also, food consumables should be half price max. 20k credits for one match and you can't even tell whether or not you will end up with 14 braindead monkeys who leave you on your own in the first 2 minutes.
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>>162760864
wrong on all counts
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>>162760864
TAKE
THAT
BACK
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>>162760957
maybe not delete, but change

Oh you want more pen? ok here yo go, but you deal 50% less damage
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>>162760979
>>162761047
NO.
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>>162760864
delet
>>
gold ammo is perfectly fine

t. maus driver
>>
>>162760935
I'm sorry anon

please take me back, I was wrong, I didn't know what I was doing

I still love this game! I miss it!
>>
Anyone liking the IKV 172?
p gud gun but shite armor...typical TD
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>>162761119

Good idea, it would be even easier to spot p2w gold spammers. Probably they'd feel ashamed and would just shoot regular ammo instead.
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Just a reminder:

This tank is 1 year old.
>>
I haven't been able to play at all today while I'm at work, but how is the STRV-74? Its so cute looking.
Looks like a big duck.
>>
>>162762792
On par with and surpasses Cromwell in some ways.
>>
>>162762404
Wait. Really? I only came back like a month or two ago.
>>
>>162761997
Most people only spam gold because the only downside is the cost
If you added that mechanic they wouldn't stop firing gold because of shame, they'd do it because the gold spam would be less effective than careful aiming in some situations
Goldspam lets you expose your tank less and gives you larger targets to hit if you want to penetrate. The second that gold rounds explicitly hinder your dpm rather than artificially increasing it against all but the most poorly armored tanks the best players will stop using it so much.
>>
>>162762792
don't listen to this guy >>162762971
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>>162763072
>Update 9.13 - Here come the Czechs!
>12.16.2015
One year flew by just like that.
>>
>>162762404
And still no nerf
>>
>>162763554
it's okay for tanks to be good.
>>
>>162763554
Powercreep is not a bad thing.
>>
>>162763697
What did it power creep though?
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>>162662034
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>>162763841
T9 is arguably one of the best.
T10 didn't powercreep anything.
>>
>>162763339
What the fuck. I'd assumed that since they were so strong, they must have been added recently because otherwise they'd have been nerfed by now.
>>
Is it worth training camo for high tier (lower base camo) TDs? (Jagdtiger, 704, Tortoise, etc.) Or it doesn't make a notable difference?
>>
>>162764632
better off training repair first on those then camo
camo first if the base camo is high
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>>162764632
Repairs>BIA>camo
Is the order I use
>>
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