/bfg/ - Battlefield general

>Playing Battlefield 1

>Martini Henry is nerfed now

JUST

Memefield 1
patch hype

>>162559680
Wait so it's not a 1HKO at 30-80m now? Don't really catch what they meant by it.

>two threads

what the fuck is this shit?

>>162560246
>two threads
There's only 1

>>162560246
this is the real one
the other one should receive an insta-ban

>>162560902
but wasn't it first?

>>162561087
You fucking dumb cunt the other one says battefield
Not battlefield

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>>162559556
>playing video games

>>162559046
AW CHEERS TA THAT

>>162561290
??? i don't get it

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>>162561302
>having electricity

>>162560140
No, its shit now. Use SMLE Infantry instead.

the best player in the world is streaming right now
plays assault
with automatico
100 stars with it

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>>162562568
Whatever primary he wishes to use is ok so long as he plays the objective.

What now?

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>>162561454
>living in post Iron Age

>mfw LMGs buffed again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyxOXjZHl9U
lets see if this shit works now had to delete post before cause it said the video didn't exist

>Read patch notes
>AA nerf
DICE might as well remove all gun emplacements.
The only one that is going to be of any use now is the field gun.

>>162565784
butthurt AA shitter detected

>>162567275
t. airchav memeshitter

new map official showcase stream is starting

>game is already getting """balanced""" to death
well, at least it was kinda fun at release. thank god I didn't buy premium

I love playing as Austria Hungary just for the uniforms. Seriously best looking in the game

>>162568648
I saw some footage and it looks like shit I believe

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>>162568107
Stay buttmad filthy gr*ndshitter

>>162569238
shitty kdr desu

>>162568920
German empira desu

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>>162569390
had to whore some games as assault before AA was nerfed the first time around

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Can someone explain to me how to play assault in BF1 please ? I find the aiming and range of the weapons horrendous and can't do anything correctly.
I now find myself playing scout and sniping all the time because I have a much easier time but I don't like it

Also what's the best medic weapon ?

>>162569870
>Also what's the best medic weapon ?
Sebstlader M1916 Optical

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>>162570210
Mondragón Sniper *

>still playing this shit

LMAO

artillery truck nerfs when

>>162572448

>low hp
>limited field of view
>indirectly is going to recieve a nerf via AA truck
>groundshitter still asks for a nerf

LMAOing at your life

>>162569870
Pick any weapon
Get in close quarters
Shoot people dead hard while you cap things
Run if they're further than 20m away, deny line of sight
If you spot a tank, become a sneaky saboteur and blow it the fuck up

>>162573892
>Run if they're further than 20m away,
I found my problem, thanks. Coming from BF4 it's quite unnatural

>>162574107
Tfw miss getting 300m kills by finger blasting almost any AR you set to semiauto

nth for rip darts gibbing bombers, you will be missed
Maybe I can still kill the pilots

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>>162574561
You don't enjoy this bullet spray which evaporates past 15m ?

>>162574772
i dont even fly but reading that change im not entirely shure what to think of it. seems to be it's a "clever use of game mechanics" type of deal they just dont want you to do rather than balancing issue.

also i didnt read anything about bomber pilots being virtually invulnerable to bullets from behind due to the hitbox of the reargun or some part of the wings or something being to big

>>162575049
It's a shame, it didn't really work against anyone not retarded, since spazzing even a little would make it much harder, and gunners would still wreck me and deny me too hard
Oh well, guess I'll farm some more infantry, thanks dice

>>162569238
Those stats are literally dogshit for who exploits the most broken thing in the game, especially that awful winrate

>Recent days
>2/5
>8/10

im dying

Man, the player in the livestream is dog shit.

>try to leave after a game
>get stuck in an endless loading screen
>no problem when you wait for the next map to load before leaving

What the fucking fuck

The SIR game mode looks okay

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I don't get it, in what way is the Martini nerfed if it still ohk's within the 30-80m range?

>>162578873
shooting someone's legs or arms won't do them in, gotta be center of mass

>>162578997
So as long as they're still aiming at the torso it's a ohk kill lol who aimed at the arms and legs anyway
Thanks lad

What's the secret to Amiens /bfg/ ?
I get my shit pushed out of my fucking mouth in that map.
Suez on the other hand , I completely take over that map single-handedly so it's not that I just suck at the game.

I'm doing something wrong and I'd love some tips.

>>162580302

>Amiens

If you're not part of the LMG spamming, SMG wielding, Shotgun firing, gas grenade throwing party, you will get rekt

>>162580302
Stop sniping

>>162580302
the secret is that you will need to capture the surrounding points to control the bridge

and don't go on the bridge

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>>162559046
>wait 5 minutes in loading for empires edge
>suddenly thrown back into the main menu screen

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>tfw you figure out the M97s spray pattern

>>162585254
there is a pattern?

A bump for you

>>162580302
when people on amiens take the armored cars and rush the bridge and your initial wave of players dies and you havent even finished capping E or B respectively yet the enemy gets the bridges and ur fucked

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>calvary untouched
>the class with mega armor, m1911, sword, health AND ammo untouched
Looks like another updates worth of infantry slaughter in conquest. Maybe they'll catch on eventually.

>>162590775
C A L V A R Y
A
L
V
A
R
Y

>>162590914
I could care less about your opinions turrent shitter

>>162590775
Should try it on Suez in Operations, flank to the side and you can cut down 10+ hillniggers on the dunes.

>>162591080
I think he meant that you spelled it wrong you fucking dumbass
It's cavalry not calvary

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>>162590775
>calvary

>>162591290
Considering his reply had turret misspelled as turrent, I'm pretty sure he's doing it for (You)s.
Good job feeding him.

>>162574772
Wait did they make it so that the flechette thing can't 1HKO bombers and attack planes? Fucking why?

>>162591592
because the fighter bomber being better at fighting with its bombs is stupid

I remember when calvary came out and everyone on /tv/ called it cavalry to trigger autists, good times

>>162591720
>having to get directly on top of a bomber to hit them with it
>they have a tail gunner and will probably fuck your shit after 5 seconds
Nah get fucked, it was a good interaction and the bomber could just fly to the side if it wanted to avoid most of the darts.

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>>162590775
>Carvery

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>>162590775
>caviar

time to revisit the bar storm and try out the lewis gun, thx dice for the buffs

>>162592000
i said before i think it's one of these "clever use of game mechanics" issues and they just dont want you to play like that because it isnt "fun" for the players getting dumped on. you could only really do it to bad players so i think this supports my theory

Playing Support with flares is my new favorite thing
Nothing beats being an endless source of flare spots

>>162595397
>cheating

>>162595397
enjoy it before the patch tomorrow

>>162593971
no it's because it breaks the intended role of the trench fighter as worse than the dogfighter/bomber killer vs air but better vs ground as a tradeoff

if you can ohk planes with the bombs it's not a tradeoff, you just pick it every time

Is the Ps4's online working? East coast here, not working at all.

>>162596182
Isn't the update 7 hours from now.

>>162596406
I'm not sure, I'm new here. Got the game yesterday. Haven't played BF since 3. This one shits on everything.

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>tfw you get a long range Model 10 kill you didn't expect to get

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>>162596182
Shitbox 1 isn't working either.

>>162596608
>shoot some random bullets down a hallway where you saw someone hide on amiens
>turn to leave
>headshot kill
>get called a hacker

>• Decreased damage of Case shells against planes by 50%
>• Reduced stationary AA range from 400 m to 334 m

the eternal airchav

>>162595685
Getting around having shit supports is cheating now?
I regret nothing

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>can seriously wipe out an entire trenches worth of people by holding down the trigger on the M97
and they're buffing this thing? jeez

>>162600215
*trench worth

bad habits. seriously though, is there any reason to even use the Sweeper variant when it's only effective in one environment and misses out on the pellets getting some headshots?

>>162600370
Shotguns don't get bonus damage from headshots anyway.

Guys I've only played a few matches, what are good weapons to unlock first?
Is there any objectively best tier weapons? Last battlefield I played was 3 where every rifle was more or less the same except that ak with insane fire rate and the G3 which fired slow (my weaponfu in that game btw, with the heavy barrel that made bullets go faster with less drop and acog scope)

>>162569579
Nigger snippers and cavalry, no thanks.

>>162600370
If you're a crappy with shotguns it's good

>>162600923
Assault: automatico
Medic: Mondragon/SL Sweeper/Slipslapper/Model 8 .25
Support: Basically any gun since they all lose against every other class
Scout: SMLE and M.95 for close range stuff

>>162600445
I could've sworn that I've heard the extra ding sound effect when you get a headshot, maybe it's just a leftover though.

>>162600923
Assault has the Automatico for maximum 'fuck you' potential, though if you can grind to level 10 then the Hellriegel is pretty handy.

Medic has the Mondragon, plus a few other options, but I'm no Medic main so I couldn't tell you.

Support is a little 'eh' all around, I use the BAR and Madsen myself since one is basically an AR and the other has insane hipfire.

You can make anything work on Scout, even the Experimental, though the Russian in particular is a favorite.

>>162600923
Automatico for assault
Mandragon for medic
BAR/1909 for support
Gewehr 98 (M.95 if you are fighting up close more) for recon

These are all easy mode and support is generally shit btw.

>>162601436
It still makes the sound effect, and you still get the bonus points, but non-slug shotguns have a 1x damage multiplier for all body parts, head included.

>>162600923
These are all my personal favorite CQ weapons.
Assault: Automatico 1918
Medic: Autoloading 8 .35 Extended
Support: MG15 Low Weight
Scout: Any handgun, or an infantry rifle.

What is your overall k/d ratio /bfg/?
Mine is 2.1 on the xone

>>162604907
1.9 on XBONE. I'm a bit too aggressive for my own good.

>>162604907
1.3

>>162600923
Assault
Hellriegel and Howdah combo

Medic
Selbstlader Optical and Auto Revolver

Support
Mg15 Suppressive and No. 3/MLE

Scout
Everything except probably the entire m1903 family works nicely and Mars Automatic

>>162604907
.91
I suck at killing people and throw my body at objectives

>>162604987
Same for me. My k/d was better in the first week when i was playing only rush to get used to the game. Now that i moved to conquest and operations it has dropped drastically.
I don't know why but i'm playing conquest terribly in this game. I used to be good at it on BF3 and 4, i seriously don't know what is going on, most of the time when i'm playing conquest my k/d is negative

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what

>>162600923
For the Medic, you have 4 options split between 2 categories. The Mondragon and Selb 1916 are both mid/long range SLRs, with the former having better attachment variant options (Sniper, Storm) and the latter having massive mag capacity and a quicker reload to squad wipe with ease. Then there's the CQB options of the M1907 which emphasize slightly higher bullet damage and ease of use, and the Autoloading 8 Extended which lets you spray faster and evaporate enemies up close

For Support pre-patch, there's only 4 LMGs worth using. The BAR has the highest ROF and the lowest time to kill while also having great minimum damage; the Madsen is a BAR that fires slightly slower with 10 more rounds, the M1909 Benet-Mercie for long range railgun accuracy and reliable killing power, and the MG15 if you truly need a high capacity belt-fed LMG

>>162601756
>Autoloading 8 .35 Extended
I wish

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>>162605776
>yfw unloading into bunkers with an autoloading 8 .35 E X T E N D E D

>>162605929
If it existed it sure would be fun

>>162605494
My problem is I get pissed when we lose the objective so I end up throwing myself at it for the team's benefit. It usually shits on my K/D but outside of that I do fine.
>>162605580
We don't know. Nobody knows.

>>162606020
I like the .35 marksman with the lowest possible magnification, because the iron sights on the factory version are p. bad

I really like the 1906 Selbstlader

>>162606297
It makes great sounds and the giant P08 action is hilarious

who else here med and ammopack master race?

>>162606952
If you're tossing heaps of grenades the ammopack is superior

Whens this fucking update coming? Im nervous that the reduction of damage in hardcore will fuck with the flow of it.

>>162608718
>babbycore

>>162567275
>Oh no, there were things capable of shooting me down when I flew over them like a retard, better cry until it's nerfed

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>>162606952
>bulletslut & healslut ever masterrace
Thanks for supporting us Assault class, now get back to work

>>162609157
>giving other people resources
>not just filling yourself with health and ammo at all times

>>162571423
Mondragón Storm*

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>it's a team full of supports and scouts lie prone in the streets exchanging potshots in amiens episode

>>162608718
calm down nigga, it's 1.5 hour left until an hour downtime for patch

>>162608718
I just want to know what is actually in the patch.
That pastebin was full of a lot of nonsense.
>Reduced Repetierpistole M1912 horizontal recoil from 0.8 to 0.5
>Current horizontal recoil is 0.4
>Reduced Huot horizontal recoil from 0.32 to 0.16
>Current horizontal is 0.16

>>162610338
-NEW MAP Giants Shadow

-grenade launcher for support with 2 frag grenades or 2 explosive grenades.

-slight mortar accuracy buff

-You can sprint from prone now

-Model 10-A nerf / all other shotguns rebalanced

-slight Heavy tank buff / Landship buffs

-another nerf to the stationary AA turrets (reduced range)

-LMG buffs

-Darts from the fighterplane do less damage to planes now

-Hardcore changes

-New custom server option to enable specific bolt action rifles for all classes.

-medic and support crate deplete/get destroyed less fast

-new procedure for deploying crates directly at your feet when deployment fails were you are aiming at

-new revive cooldown for the syringe after multiple revives (very minor)

-a lot of bug fixes to movement system, spawning without vehicle, reload animation not matching reload time, incorrect damage for the martin henry

-some performance tweaks for high end graphicscards

>>162610649
I already know about that.
This pastebin I was referring to http://pastebin.com/MRYABYZA was posted last thread.
But the information in it is dubious since as I said here >>162610338 shit doesn't make sense.
I want to know what is actually in the patch.

>>162608939
*funnestcore

I wanna know what the fuck they did to LMGs. The wording makes no sense and almost seems like they NERFED the scoped versions which would be mind blowingly retarded. Also not giving an actual numbers cooldown on the revive CD could mean an actual complete disaster that ruins the entire game

because of retarded poor console plebs hotfixes and quick patches don't exist anymore, if they fuck up majorly we're stuck with it for weeks. Weeks of people leaving at this point in the game's cycle could easily kill this game

>>162610859
how the fuck is any of that nonsense?
it's self explanatory

>>162612270
Most things make sense only because we haven't witnessed them yet.
There are only a few errors here and there like >>162610338 but when you see some mistakes it makes you wonder if anything else is wrong.
There's also just vague stuff like:
>LMG damage drop-off happens at farther distances
What distances?
2 metres?
5 metres?
Do different lmgs drop off faster than others now that they all do the same max damage?
I would really like to know.
How is that self explanatory?

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>>162612945
Oh wait I'm a fucking idiot aren't I.
They mean total horizontal.
I was thinking right and left.
So the Huot has 0.08 on the right and the left and the steyr has 02.5 to the right and left.
That was very stupid of me.

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ban anime avatars

>>162577756
quit buttons are extremely advanced programming

>>162610649
>Model 10-A nerf
shit, I can just taste the salt
>grenade launcher for support
>LMG buffs
aw yissssss
>Darts from the fighterplane do less damage to planes now
fug

Is my automatico safe from the patch

Hello

>>162615871
>automatico RPM changed from 900 to 650
na m8, ur fucked. better get gud

I just tried to fart but instead sprayed the whole wall behind me with a brown sludge, sitting butt naked on a wooden stool, which immediately made me think of that my beloved Model 10-A Hunter (86 stars) is no longer going to be able to shit on people at all ranges.

>>162617215
that really made me think

CAN YOU FEEL IT, MR KRABS?

Frommer Stop vs Mle 1903 for scout sidearm? Based on the stats ingame they have nearly identical accuracy and hipfire, while the 1903 has slightly higher damage and the Frommer Stop has a little more control and rate of fire.

I feel like when using the Frommer Stop I leave the enemy with just a hair amount of health and wish for a smidge more damage, but when using the 1903 I end up being just a hair too slow and wish for a smidge faster fire rate.

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>commanding lead at Fao's Fortress
>warn the team to stop trying to cap fort
>proceed to cap fort
>warn them to get out of fort and let them cap it
>defend it with all their might
>lose every other cap
>lead dwindling
>last warning that this game is lost unless we leave fort alone
>lose by 6 points

I swear to fucking GOD

WHY

THE

FUCK

ARE

YOU

SO

BAD?!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!

FUCK!

FUCK YOU ALL, JESUS

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>>162564917
>living

anyone else just get kicked for an update?

did they finally get rid of the 10a?

>>162618861
it's down ya

>>162618889
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>162618861
>salt
>everybody starts using automatico
>automatico gets nerfed
>even more salt
I'm ready for this ride

>>162619173
oh lord jesus make it so, I am tired of losing 1v1 to 12 year olds

>>162619173
Automatico doesn't need a big nerf.
Should reduce its max damage of 23 to 21 which would cut its 5 hit kill range in half.

>>162619343
as long as they dont touch the mg 15 suppresive im good

>>162619343
yes it does you shitter

>>162619445
but they are anon they're buffing it

Playing iron sights scout is just so satisfying

>>162619520
No they're not, they're doing a solid nerf to all LMGs that don't use irons, and the MG15 is getting a longer reload as well

So is the update out? I understand that only good goys get to play the new map this week but if I play the game now will it be the new update

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>>162619445
>tfw the shit weapon you were already good with anyway got buffed hard
We /rossrifle/ now

>>162619810
Patching as we spe- oh look it's done. 2Gb

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>>162615485

>mfw airchav and support main
>mfw every patch so far since open beta

at this rate, bombers will get tactical nukes and supports will get laser guns by 2017

>>162619715
I'm fairly convinced that they gift you headshots

>>162619520
>>162619868
You guys serious?

I'm gunna fuck shit up so hard, i'm at 900 kills with it so far

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>>162620043
wow, impressive...

>>162619732
>they're doing a solid nerf to all LMGs that don't use irons
Are you retarded?
>Now the accuracy of the second shot is the same for all variants of one LMG and just slightly above the level previously held by the Optical setups.
They're not nerfing optic variants, they're buffing the non-opticals to bring them in line.

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>>162620043
>he only has 9 service stars
Look at him!
Look at him and laugh!

>>162620083
>>162620287

t.10a fuccbois getting nerfed

>>162620181
and they're adding extra recoil to the opticals.

Fucking retard

Are they EVER going to fix the slow as shit menus? Like fucking seriously I've never played a game with as slow menus as this and I MEAN COME ON IT'S 2016

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>>162620368
nope

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>GO GO GO as squad leader

>Only 2 shotguns are good
>Nerf all of them to a point where they may be completely unusable
>Nerf the rank 10 gun too
>Assault now has 1 weapon to use

Good idea, instead of buffing the weapons that aren't good or fun to use let's nerf the ones that are so that no one gets to enjoy themselves. The 10-a was balanced, people just get upset when they die to a weapon they are too bad to use themselves and they never want to learn to counter anything, easier to just whine on reddit.

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>>162621410
>weapon they are too bad to use themselves
>10-a

>>162621410
>the 10-a was balanced
you could one-shot someone at fucking 20 meters with it

>>162621410
I don't think you know what "balance" means.

>>162620945
>blowing the whistle and charging with squad
>my friends and I have gone full objective Scout squad with SMLE Infantry and bayonets
>All five bayonet charge across from the fort to B on Fortress
Its a bretty gud feeling, autistic or no

>>162610649
>New custom server option to enable specific bolt action rifles for all classes.


YES

>only used the 10-A on argonne because I knew it was very strong
>racked up 50+ kills with it every round, but again, only on argonne
>fun to use, required good aim, kept automatico faggots in check, was the only shotgun not total shit tier
>never used the absurdly broken automatico because I got my fill of close range rape from my 10-A rounds, even though I could easily topscore/frag every single game with it

Now that it's nerfed all I'm ever gonna use is the automatico, and I'm gonna use it on every map. There will be nothing to stop me or any other good players using it because there's literally 0 answers to it now. You faggots will be bitching and moaning about this gun within days, I already see it. Remember that you caused this

>>162622404
Your salt is so fucking delicious you'll never believe it
Also
>required good aim
Top fucking lel

>>162622404
>There will be nothing to stop me or any other good players using it because there's literally 0 answers to it now
And?
It was already the case that any non-braindead assault would immediately win any close range encounters against a non-assault, lowering the number of weapons that do that makes no difference to people that don't play assault 24/7.
Also people have been bitching about the automatico since the game came out, this won't be anything new.

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>>162622404
>required good aim

When is the update live for PS4?

how do you equip the standard issue rifle?

>>162622404
The saltiness of this post gave me an erection

>reqired good aim
You can't make this shit up

>>162622818
less than 20 minutes

>>162623053
enough time to take a quick fap then

>>162622991
The G98 for the Germans for example? You have to play scout on official servers.

The new patch applied a game setting that forces i.e the British to use the SMLE, but it's only available for rental servers.

>>162623265
>standard issue only available for Germans
>but you have to rent if you'd like to play British
that sounds retarded honestly

>>162623265
what, I thought it would be available in all classes in custom games

>>162623449
your reading comprehension sounds retarded

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Who else is /experimental/ here?

>>162623552
kys

>>162623449
All the faction specific rifles are available to everyone; they're the infantry variants for the scout rifles. For example, SMLE for brits, Gewehr for Germans, etc.

>>162623552
Madman

Quick question for you BF fags.

I personally think BF 1942, BF 2 and BF2142 play similar to each other.

Then BFBC1, BC2, 1943, BF2 Modern Combat all play similarly.

Then BF 3, BF4, BFH and BF1 all play similarly.

With Heroes and P4F and BF:O not worth mentioning or categorizing.

Does anyone else feel this way? I have heard lots of complaints that BFH sucked, but they liked BF4. They are referring to map selection and balance right? Not actually the movement and gunplay that seems identical, correct?

I know a person that after work plays BF4 solo (while a large group of us regularly play BF1) because he doesn't like BF1's aiming, is this me just not "getting it" or is he full blown downs?

>>162623552
I only have around half that
:^(

>>162623710
I really want to. I'm too scared to go through with it, though. Want to help me?

>>162623890
bf1 feels quite like bc2 in a lot of ways

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>>162623552
I'd really like to know what the k/d is like for those that play the most least used weapons, can I see it?

It'd be interesting to see the anon that has 1k+(I think?) trench knife too, if he's still in the thread.

>>162624013
For me there seems to be a direct split of how it controls and feels. BC series feels different than 3 onwards.

>>162623890
The gunplay and general vehicle-infantry balance in Hardline was shit. Bullet velocity was just absurdly slow (any gun suppressed in that game had to lead targets significantly as low as 10m away), and it was just lacking the combined-arms warfare that Battlefield is known for.

>>162624013
balance is more like 1942, gamefeel is more like BC2, map design is more like BF3

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>>162623890
>I have heard lots of complaints that BFH sucked

You mean one of the favorites?

>>162624013
This, told myself I'll take a break from playing BF1 after unlocking Hellriegal & Memetini but always keep wanting to come back to it. It's really annoying when I'm supposed to get immersed in TLG & FFXV when BF1's on my mind.

>>162624063
I still think 3 has the best feel out of all of them. They really went for the realism angle while also keeping everything really well balanced. In 3 more than all the others hardcore is redundant because the TTK is already really low, it just completely breaks a very delicate balance at that point.

Only thing is that for whatever god forsaken reason they removed sprint from prone in the final game. I still can't think of a good reason why they would do that.

They brought it back in BF1, but it's still pretty slow.

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>>162624027
Here you go friendo. It's not particularly good, but it's not bad, either. I think. I have fun using them and that's all I care about.

>>162624063
That's because of no diagonal sprinting
But from a design perspective, class balance and so on, it's pretty similar in some regards

>>162624385
I don't know why people call the experimental shit

it really isn't

It's gotta be my favorite scout weapon next to the G95

>>162624468
class balance in BC2 was retarded

>medic has machineguns
>machineguns are better than assault rifles
>engineers pdw's double as sniper rifles
>recon rifles double as shotguns

BF1 is much more sensible
>assault is killing guys/blowing things up guy
>medic has gun more suited for supporting from further behind
>support repairs shit and fucks shit up with bipod and only bipod before they buff every lmg so much that shitters can run and gun like in bc2 anyways
>scout actually has spotting abilities instead of c4

clear, sensible, semi-authentic roles with very little overlap and not enough customization to fuck it up too much

they need to make the medic unable to unequip healing items though

>>162624486
It'd would've been perfect if the damage dropoff aren't like a sidearm's. Why use it when it's the same as a pistol? Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>162624486
It really isn't. I think others don't like it because it's not an "instant gratification" weapon like the automatico or shotguns. But to each their own, right anon?
Also G95 Infantry is pretty fun, too. Good taste

I'll neck myself if they nerf automatico trench.
Been playing the game with it like counter strike and still maintaining 1+ K/D

>>162624723
They were not really intuitive, but still worked out well in the end, mostly due to gadget limits. Like, people just have to pack assaults in comp play for their smoke

>>162624768
it has 41 rounds, fires fast as sin and is more accurate than the average sidearm?

it's much closer to a medic weapon than it is to a sidearm

Check out the patch notes here

http://pastebin.com/MRYABYZA

>SIR mode

feels good man

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>start up game
>it sarcastically comments on my irresponsible sleep schedule

h-haha yeah just a few late games

>4 gig update

REEEEEEE NOW I HAVE TO WAIT 2 FUCKING HOURS BEFORE I EVEN GET TO PLAY THIS STUPID SHIT

>>162625843
move to finland

well shit. gotta give the experimental a try. absolute madman for sticking with it for over 1k kills.

>>162626164
BUT I ALREADY LIVE IN FUCKING FINLAND
REEEEEEEEE

>>162626287
don't you guys have free broadband? what are you complaining about

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>>162626358
lmao nice meme

PSA, darts still deal a little damage to planes, they don't just drop through them like I initially suspected
I'm waiting ,for my friend to come online so I can figure out exactly how much, or one of you guys on EU can assist me

One thing DICE can never patch, nor anybody, is retarded as fuck teammates. I'll get a hardon if there's a newsflash that an asteroid is about to hit us, ending all life as we know it.


Oh yeah, the Lewis LMG is amazing now.

>>162626909
>like I suspected

why would you suspect that? did you read the patch notes at all?

>>162626961
>Oh yeah, the Lewis LMG is amazing now.
If only the sights didn't suck so much dick.

>>162626961
it's possible to breed self aware players by reducing handholding, they need a do or die moment with key mechanics that they would not otherwise understand

>>162626909
>>162626984
Have been testing it. You can pretty reliably disable an attack plane with them still, bombers it will fuck the wings and deal ~50 damage. Provided you lay into them with machine guns first its still a cool way to burst down bombers.

>>162626984
Before the patch came out
I expected them to just flat out remove the AA potential

>>162627089
>flat out remove the AA potential
>remove the AA
at this rate, using AA will kill _you_ in the next two patches.

>>162627176
>this reading comprehension

>>162627076
Okay cool. If they were to fix the invisible bugged hitboxes from behind bombers you could possibly still gib the pilots, which would achieve about the same thing

>>162627176
I'm talking about the darts

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feels bad man

I know everyone likes to talk about weapons and vehicles and gear stats being changed, but does anyone know about team commanders being implemented? Haven't played multiplayer in a Battlefield game since BF2 and one of the things that made that game great was having competent commanders who could control the flow of battle and help squads communicate with each other. In BF1 it seems like there are sometimes good squads on each team, but it's impossible to coordinate outside of your squad because there is no VOIP option and no one has time to read chat/it's full of memes and kids raging. I play with a few friends and while we're all pretty average players, we do fairly well as a squad and have managed to turn sure losses into wins before. It just seems like the overall teamplay is lacking because of the disparate actions that squads take due to isolation. Anyone have any details on Dice's position on this, or any workarounds to coordinate with the team in the meantime?

how do i kill infantry as a plane
how do i be useful as a pilot, all i do is fly around until someone starts tailing me then i switch to backseat and shoot them down and start flying around again
what am i supposed to do, and what plane is your favorite?

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>>162627565
thank god after this update little fucktards like you will be nothing more than easy prey for us /ace/ pilots

>>162627565
>how do i kill infantry as a plane
Shoot at it as it flies past
If you're a scout, use k-rounds to damage parts
Use AA if it's close and a plane is inc,don't camp them, because planes will wreck you after 20 seconds
>how do i be useful as a pilot, all i do is fly around until someone starts tailing me then i switch to backseat and shoot them down and start flying around again
Well this is fine as long as flying around includes nuking the hell out of infantry
Check out which map is contested, approach from behind or a flank, destroy their infantry, rinse repeat
>what am i supposed to do, and what plane is your favorite?
Trench hunter, though now I have to try out the other fighters I suppose

>queue for Iron Wall to get my Monte Grappa on
>get Empire's Edge instead
fuck off. there needs to be a way to choose which map you want in operations

>>162627696
>this reading comprehension

cheapest season pass?

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I know this is battlefield general,but its also dice's game.Is battlefront worth buying? Thinking about picking it for 10-15 bucks on some winter sale.It cant be that bad r-right?

>>162627759
Elaborate

>>162627176
>hillshitter gets btfo by airchav
>runs to the nearest AA emplacement
>you futility scream noooooo, but he he can't hear you
>as soon as he hits the seat, it explodes, killing every friendly in the sector
>you've lost the sector, retreat
>you retreat, but the retreat spot doesn't go away
>spot persists through death
>the enemy is being reinforced with an airship
>unlimited enemy plane spawns, literally no infantry on the enemy team
>as you look around, you see your entire team is scouts sitting on a hill 300m from the objective scoped in while airplanes bomb your permanently spotted ass over and over and over again

>>162627806
>how do i kill infantry as a plane
>proceeds to explain how to kill planes as an infantry

>>162627645
cringe

>>162627806
i asked how to kill infantry as a plane, you answered my question with how to kill plane as infantry, though i wasn't the one that pointed it out. thanks.

>>162627806
>>162627759
No actually don't elaborate, you're right
Well then ignore the first paragraph and it's still fine

>gewher 98 my favorite scout rifle
>get battlepack in end of game screen
>open it
>it's the kaiser
nice

>>162627883
Also make sure to spot a lot as a plane, I don't think they have range restrictions on it like infantry with their different scopes. Especially if there's already one spotted guy on a flag, you can just home in on that one, spam q on and around him, and spot like a dozen people that you can then gun down and bomb

>quick match conquest
>get put into loading screen
>wait in loading screen for 10 minutes
>screen fades to black
>cuts back in to main menu
nice fucking game dice

So uh the only change to Monte Grappa in operations is that the bunker capzones have been extended, with no way to deal with defenders effectively still. To this, I salute ye DICE, with a cascade of my own fecal matter.

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>>162627883
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Deutsche Luftstreitkräfte, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on London and England, and I have over 300 confirmed victories. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top pilot in the entire German armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over a war pigeon? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the Central Powers and your location is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my plane. Not only am I extensively trained in air combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the German Army and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>162628173

extended? You mean to trenches?

>>162627565
use your zoom to spot them, then start shooting, remember to pull up, and drop a few surprises as you pass

sometimes if you can't see anything and nobody is spotting you just have to guess

>>162628587
extended to cover the places everybody was standing at before chucking nades all day

The xbow is shit

>fire HE grenade directly at the broad side of a heavy tank
>8 fucking damage

And good luck hitting infantry with that shit, you're better off using an MG in any situation, especially since the crossbow has no sights

>>162629293
Are the regular grenades like frag grenades?

>>162629404

There are two crossbows, one that fires HE grenades and one that fires frag grenades for vehicles and infantry respectively, but neither is good at taking them out

>>162629586
meme unlock weapons can't be good at anything, it's just to make preorder goys feel good about themselves

>>162629586
Can you at least crack open buildings with the HE grenades to get at the juicy windowcampers?

Yes. It will take 2 shot to do so.

>>162629970
You could also use Limpet, which will destroy a building and tanks alike

When is it going to be online?

>>162630403
Yeah, but not at range, like the second story windows across the tracks on aimens.

This "standard issue" mode is looking fun. Reminds me of the rifle only servers on COD2.

>dl overnight
>install
>EA is down

Fucking news to who?

>>162630597

Get close and place the limpet on the ceiling on a floor below them, and giggle as they plummet down. Gas grenade optional.

>try Giants Shadow a bit
>first round
>the map is foggy for 900 tickets
.... NICE MAP, IF I COULD SEE IT

>>162628716
Literal pandering to retards. This is why BF1 players wont be getting any less retarded any time soon.

>>162632450
>try giant shadow
>have the worst match I ever had
I just dunno man

>>162632450
>>162633001
>fog
>German spawn closer to most of the points

I don't know if this map is for me

WHY THE FUCK IS IT RAINING IN FAO FORTRESS??

>Get an XP boost from a battlepack
>immediately scrap it

Good to see automatico is still bullshit.

>>162633661

Some stay dry and others feel the pain.

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>first game
>go on the warpath against the Russians, the Americans and a mercenary army to get some gold
>invade a neutral country and generally fuck shit up in the process
>finally get the gold, drive off into the sunset
>second game
>you're back in army
>only reference to the last game is Haggard saying "I cant talk about it"
>the girl who helped you on the radio is nowhere to be found
>game starts to take itself more seriously, becomes less fun as a result

Am I missing something here? What happened to the truck-load of gold they got at the end? What happened to the Legionnaire after he survived the helicopter crash? Why are they still in the army even though they're rich? Why didn't the Sarge retire like he said he would?

>the crossbow does shit damage
>takes a fuckload of time to resupply
hello limpy my old friend

god damn i love being an airchav now that the AA has been nerfed once more

thanks lads

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RRREEE WHY DID THEY BREAK BORDERLESS?

what i would like to see is accurate display of the direction light tanks turrets are facing

>first time playing
>have more pistol kills than CAL-R kills

That main medic gun blows thunder pussy.

>directX crash still in game
Fuck you dice

>Take out 90% of an airships health with an AA gun
>eventually get blown up
>someone else finishes it off
>get fuck all points for all that effort

>>162635807
>caring about score
Which reminds me the good Battlefields counted score in tens not tens of thousands

you can leave games without infinite loading now?

>>162636104
that technology has not yet been invented, sorry

>>162636104
Yes
Alt+f4

>>162635807
you still get all the points from damaging it you retard

>>162627790
>.It cant be that bad r-right?
Nah, it's just hyperbol. What is true though is that the base game is lacking in content. So you have to fork out more money for dlc, I'm afraid.

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>there are people who genuinely can't think of what to do without a squad leader giving them commands
>there are people who see orders as more than just more points for a capture

>horse jumps over enemy

>>162636761

without orders your squad spreads around the map without a common goal you mong. that's no fun at all.

>Get tired of the massive lack of teamwork and squad cohesion
>Think about re-installing Verdun
>Check SteamCharts
http://steamcharts.com/app/242860
JUST

>>162636928
>>162636928
>horse jumps over other horses

>>162636978
nobody follows those orders anyway

>>162636928
>>162637103
>horse gets stuck behind a pebble
>gunned down by enemy

>>162637067
The time for autistic games is long gone anon. Even ArmA is a casualized piece of shit now and all the flight sims are basically dead.

>>162637179

console babbies not welcome

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It's great that the Landship has been buffed. Especially the mortars on it. Because clearly this doesn't mean that Bobby McSitstill and his friend Stuart von Camponthespot will pick them and stay in spawn all game. We could really use them to push up in this operation, but it would be terrible if the boys didn't get their handful of kills this round.

>>162636978
>4 out of the 5 points are captured by the enemy
>'well I'm at a loss on what to do, better check out the scenery I guess.'

>>162637367
But muh k/d!

did you know that the hotter a fart is, the more it'll stink?

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>>162637406

what about capturing back their first point, flanking, etc? all that stuff you can accomplish by simply hitting the q button. you should try it one time you solo fuck. there's more to the game than capping points in a straight line

>>162637367
it wouldn't be that bad that the Landship hangs back and mortars all game, but for christs sake man pick a good spot where your gunners can tank-snipe. I spawn in on a Landship on the border of a fight thinking 'oh cool, let me protect you while you bomb them' only to be met with a hill or a wall preventing anyone but the driver from attacking anything

>>162637491
certainly feels that way

are servers still down? i'm able to connect but it's saying MATCHMAKING FAILED so i'm assuming theyre still down

>>162637406
>theres only attack orders

fucking kids

>Still no platoons
>Have to wait even longer to trigger people with the [BFG] tag

>>162637491
I once lit a campfire with my ass.

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>''we've nerfed the Hellrielgel in the past, & will continue to nerf it again in the future''
why do they keep having retarded breakdowns? who asked for this?

>>162638467
One of the reasons why platoon support is on hold is because they don't want people to impersonate other guilds by copying their tags

Dumb if you ask me

>>162638690
>we've nerfed the Hellrielgel in the past, & will continue to nerf it again in the future

pls no ;_;

I've been grinding my least favourite class for the last few days now just to try that badboy out

>>162638690
nigger what? the increased recoil isn't even noticeable to the average user who just holds down the trigger until everything he sees in his screen is dead

all full auto weapons should be nerfed to oblivion imho

>>162634608
I believe DICE stated that BC2's campaign was a different story with the same characters; they're not necessarily connected.

>>162640340
wowowowowowowow

I'm having terrible performance with an i5 4460 and a gtx 970, holy shit I regret so much buying this game.

>>162638467
just fucking go on the muble or discord and play with peoiple

>>162637179
Speak for yourself faggot

>matchmaking drops me into US server with 200 ping

neat

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Any decent utubers like xfactor to follow?

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>tfw they finally fixed the fps counter so it doesnt disappear

>>162641314
ravic has good videos
i find xfactor too annoying

new map is just sinai with grass

>>162640507
Your cpu is getting bottlenecked
>>162627395 is my much stronger cpu
Try limiting to 60 fps in the settings (not vsync)

is it just the new map all day?

some of these maps are legit sum garbage wtf

>>162641675
I know
But it's my gpu that's being bottlenecked because it can't work full load with that cpu
I already tried everything, limiting fps on user.cfg and changing renderaheadlimit, nothing worked

>>162642296
Yeah I messed up that sentence, the gpu is of course being bottlenecked
I also tried tons of stuff to get some extra performance, cpu oc was the only thing that really did anything, maybe ram oc for a few frames

>>162641314
>xfactor's gf/wife

Its not fair bros, hes a manlet and she is too good for him!

cool the bug where you can't fire your weapon a revive is back

GREAT PATCH

>>162643070
I've been experiencing that before this patch tho

have no servers the new map and old ones in rotation? dont want to play one map only

fucking hillniggers use your flares

>invisible enemies

bravo DICE

so what sniper do i use now for agressive recon

Why did they add shit like fog and sandstorms?
Its just annoying and not fun!

>>162644746
I like the M1903 Sniper

>buffed the bar
>allowed us to change the deadzone
we bf4 now, feels great

What's the Italian rifle for Standard Issue Rifles?
Isn't the Mannlicher have the most relation to the Carcano rifles?

>>162644746
m95 infantry

how do you people have fun playing as a pilot
>fly over flag
>drop bomps and flares
>do a 180
>repeat
shit's boring

>>162645909
I can see the appeal, murdering dozens of people in a couple of go's and getting an absurd kdr inb4 airchav, mobile infantry made me the man I am today

>>162646191
just not my playstyle I guess. i dont get as much satisfaction from dropping bombs on people as I do from running around with an MG15

>>162646436
aye, mg15 is a dank weapon, tried the lewis for a bit but didn't quite feel it, back to the bar storm for a while now, I always liked the lmgs and they just keep buffing them the absolute madmen

>>162645909
once you get good, it's fun

t. ace pilot

>>162643070
i havent seen a single fix in any patch for any of the revive bugs

i get like 10 of them

>suez
>calvary
>riding around the dunes slicing hillniggers the entire match
satisfaction

Ever since I downloaded this patch I can't throw grenades. Anyone experienced this bug before? Restarting the game doesn't fix it