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Durthu the Based edition

>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
http://pastebin.com/hPkPujTB

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Warhammer News

Wood Elves Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETYy5-0eVVQ

Wood Elves Let's Play:
https://vimeo.com/193870223/7bcb844b7b

Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
Recent Update Info -- http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_5
Recent DLC -- http://store.steampowered.com/app/534331/

ded >>162471163
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>>162524614
>20:00:00
nice
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I AM PRINCE

AND

EMPEROR
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>>162524614
ROLLAN!
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>>162524701
GORK AND MORK ARE COMING
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>gobbo archers
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>>162524684
>10:00:00 for me
still nice
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>>162524731
Cmon Wurrrzag
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Phoenix Guard will lose to dwarf warriors

CA will tell you to lower difficulty and play creatively
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ROME

the eternal city
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>>162524731
I guess I'll give it a roll
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>>162524904
>>162524731
Rerolling because I played the meme count summoner last time
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>>162524731
Finishing Season of Revelation with Orion atm, GC with Durthu after that.

Rolling for what's next pls no dawi scum
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>>162524938
Where is this pic from?
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>>162524953
poopoo peepee time to buy this DLC. What am I in for?
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I wouldn't be mad if they did Total War: AOIAF. You could make neato plot characters into legendary lords, have dragons and giants, a chaos invasion like white walker invasion with lords that have like 100% physical resistance but die in a single hit to Valarian steel which gets passed down from lord to lord, each house with their own roster, the lizard-like folk or whatever they are from the far south. It'd be a more return to roots focus with less mythical creatures and more heavy grungy fighting, formations and all the sorts. Even some of the shady magic could be brought in.

That or LOTR. I'd still suck cocks for either desu
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>>162524970
>Shitvald the Magnificunt
Can't wait to burn Athel Loren to the ground because of Welfs unfab hair and then Bretonnia for their shit wine!
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>>162524980
>every time

jesus did no one play Attila?
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>>162525070
I did .-.
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>>162525014
>What am I in for?
The best horde experience next to Tanukhids, enjoy raiding, raping and razing undefended towns then go into hiding.
Repeat until there's nothing left to rape.

Also Minotaurs, they'll fuck up everything
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>>162525063
for a meme they should do Warcraft and then we can imagine how annoyed the Games Workshop board must be
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>>162525014
The most fun horde faction.

But also a whole lot of growth/economy management and a need for Minotaurs.

Also you might want to piggy back the two starting hordes around at first to build up those early levels fast. Just set one horde up as your main army and use the other guy as off map call in to get some exp and help you get stuff you want earlier.
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>>162525159
Fuck that if they made a Total warcraft I wanna see how badly assblown the WC RTS fans would get.
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>>162525070
Why would anyone play the most boring Total War game in years?

jokes aside I did and the only time I've ever seen this thing was from screen shots in these threads.
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SOON
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>>162525159
I'm sorta surprised nobody has attempted it to be fair. It is kinda the perfect thing for a Total War game if you take what they've managed so far for TW:W into consideration. Especially even now when there's actual goblins and orcs, literal zombies and skellingtons. But it wouldn't satisfy Blizzard's lust for money cause they'd have to make proper dlc and no mtx
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>Get home from college, want to play Shogun 2 on an actual computer that can run it without looking like horseshit
>the game crashes on statup
shiet, guess I'm gonna give Rome 2 a try, never played it before.

What faction to play though? I'm leaning Macedon, but I do have the Seleucids and Baktria from Emperor Edition.

What's the deal with the whole Pontus meme anyway? I'm new to total war, just started playing a couple months ago.
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>>162525274
>and the only time I've ever seen this thing
well it has to actually be built in a city to show up in a battle map
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I think Vlad misses his waifu anons
>B-But what if Isabella never comes back
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Do Kemmler, Gelt and Azhag in fact form a Pantheon of Gods of True Understanding? It's as though they were put there to be played only by the pure of heart who don't want babby's first OP units starter pack in their army from turn 1.

I don't often play Warhammer Total War, but when I do, I am able to appreciate the simple, solid comfort of a band of Goblin Archers accompanying me into a game free of cheating, mods and the accompanying ennui. Go ahead, post your endgames delivered on a plate right from the start by your Black Orcs, your Vargheist, your Reiksguard - to me they are as though they had never occurred. Only when I enlarge a screenshot and see in it a member of The Pantheon will I nod my head in silent approval at another understander coming into this world.
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More grudges for the Grudge god
im out of ideas atm..
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>>162525159
>>162525220

>Total Warcraft outselling Total Warhammer

Now THAT would be a legendary meme, m8.
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>They don't use Chaos Cosmetics
>They don't use Varied Zombies
>They don't use Varied Trees
>They don't use Moar Boar Variation
>They don't use Unique Empire States

At some point we need to come up with a good list of all the cosmetic mods that don't fuck with stuff super hard, but just make things look better or make them look right in the case of stuff like the Empire states.
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Is Ward Save the same as Resistance? Just wondering if it's some kind of dodge tanking rather than damage mitigation.
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>>162525591
ward save doesn't get boned by magical attacks iirc
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>>162525568
I had to use a custom chaos cosmetics, chaos knights and chosen look 10x better without capes.
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>>162518103
>dat voice
Vlad's voice is quite bland. Doesn't fit his stature at all. I'm yet to hear a better voicework for vampire character than that of Disciples II. Now that was a good shit, properly raspy, hoarse, and impassive. Some voice lines at 7:10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktV_tH3jz-A&list=PLzIc390g2EA2Gkv4phpQnqIGyTmCIhYC2
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>Theodoric of Brionne, a literal who, to be one of Bretonnia's LL's
>his only star moment in the fluff is defending Maisontaal Abbey from Arkhan and the OLD FRIENDS KEMMLER and KRELL

really makes you think
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>>162525562
>Elves
>Able to do any of this while they trip over themselves and get buttfucked by the dark 'uns every other hour
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>>162525882
they have barely any character models in the tabletop either
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>>162525279
>Bretonnia
You enjoy cuckolding and NTR, right?
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>>162525882

Wait, since when?

I thought we were getting Alberic of Bordeleaux.
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so whos the strongest regular soldiers, i.e. not a named character or a lord, a chosen or a bret knight perhaps?
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>162526195
depends on the tier, but dwarf's generally would have the best infantry comparatively (I think black orcs win tier 3 though)
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>>162525951

He's a big guy.
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>>162525568
You know it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a mod collection.

That said with how every update fucks up the mods you'll quickly have to drop stuff as the mod makers get fed up with it.
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LegendofTotalWar, WarriorofSparta, PrinceofMacedon...

Is there anybody who isn't named like a fucking ponce?
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Should I be using spear wardancers or wildwood rangers? If wanted to mass something like you would empire greatswords.
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>>162526672
Total war history.
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>>162526672
lionheart
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>>162526717

Rangers are better anti-armor, dancers with spears are better anti large.
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>>162525365
p-pls respond
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>>162526672

>overcompensation isn't a thing

It's like you don't even know about the "bigger dick" foreign policy theory, anon.
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>>162526928
here is a roll pic to help you pick a faction
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>>162524731
roll
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>finally getting around to updating my mods
>CA broke something with unit texturing and so now my units are full of misaligned and miscolored textres
>no one has found a solution to this problem
>CA still tries to say that they do a good job supporting modders

It's no wonder so many modders quit after the first month or two.
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>>162525568
>>162526338

Mostly the cosmetic stuff doesn't really get broken,at least in all my reskins, the worst thing that happened was I had to manually re-input a heap of 'stump attach points' to get blood and gore working. But ultimately for every other mod thats just cosmetics like mine are you can just tick load out of date mods and nothing bad happens

the only exception to this would be like something with bretonnia because ca might well rename and change filenames when they make it a faction
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WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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>>162527227
I did forget though, as this guy said importing custom textures aren't nearly as unbreakable as using in game assets
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>>162525568

I would use unique empire states but the creators decision to give all greatswords capes triggers me.
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>>162527359
>creators decision to give all greatswords capes triggers me.

I thought I was the only person triggered by that.
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>>162527274

Dealing righteous death to those twisted stunties.
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>>162527035
Tell me about Pontus, why is it a meme?
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sup christmas lads

eb1 or eb2?
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This lone dwarf has been at siege with Skarsnik for the last 20 turns. He builds himself some siege equipment, attacks, gets defeated then lays siege the following turn.

Unfortunately this has given Skarsnik something like 15 free levels at this point, but I will hopefully ally myself with Karak Norn and put Crooked Moon out of their misery.
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>>162527587
When RomeII was about to be released we were getting sneak peaks at factions. We got fucking pontus before guys like the Selucids.
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>>162527386
>>162527359
I didnt mind it, but I will tell you a secret anons, get pack file manager open it up and from there there is 2 ridicuously easy ways to solve the problem, see pic related for highlighted shit.
basically way one is you add a line saying
<SLOT name="cape" probability="0.1">
where I put it in the pic related, that would give a 10% chance of a unit spawning with a cape, 0.3 means 30% and ect

way 2 is whats underneath, you can write a 'dud' entry by changing some letters, that gives you a 50% chance the dud entry will be drawn, no items generated.

this way you can do cool shit like combine that guys neat decaying zombies with the mousillon mods
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>>162527587
people have shit taste and can't appreciate the best faction
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Really fires my neurons
>Pretty much lost my whole army taking it
>Vlad 200+ kills
>BKs 300+ kills
>Enemy GG 300+ kills

>Can actaully raise dead Crypt Horrors
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>>162527698
>>162527924

Ah, that makes sense. It fits with the absolute jewery of Rome II
>Sparta and Athens are dlc
>fucking everyone of note that isnt Rome or Carthage are dlc
>half of the factions that come with the game are some variant of barbarian

At least they have based Macedon, I'm sure they'll be fine for a first playthrough right?
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>>162528031
Yeah, Macedon is fucking based.
pikes just make my dick hard
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>>162525274

Zoroastrial burial, they thought corpses should be left in the open inside tombs so that they could be picked by crows etc.
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>>162527696
this seems to be a pattern with the new "AI"

Parravon lost it's last settlement to Karl Franz in my WE campaign, and has been besieging him for about 50 turns, being chased off every turn, but Karl Franz never leave the settlement so Parravon besieges it again the next turn

I don't mind since I'm at war with the Empire and it keeps Franzyboy off my back
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Is it worth taking Templehof as a vassal or should I just conquer them?

Also, holy fuck the vampire counts are easy.
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>>162525070
Rome 2, was a literal rip-off at launch, and then CA decides to release the game that Rome 2 was supposed to be, a year after with the same pricetag as Rome 2.

No wonder people were pissed, and lost all hope for the Total War series.

Warhammer literally saved a franchise, that the gaming community had given up on.
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>>162528393
>just conquer them?
just conquer them!
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>>162524731
haha yes
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>>162528429
>a year after with the same pricetag as Rome 2.
why are you lying? Attila wasn't priced as a full title, and was cheaper than Rome2
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To all the people saying last thread that the next Total Warhammer won't be like Attila:

>Future instalments of the trilogy will expand the world-map, bringing unique new terrain and introducing new playable Lords and their races. We’re planning these to be massive standalone follow-ups to the main game (like ATTILA to ROME II).

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?687395-New-game-announced-Total-War-WARHAMMER&p=14480436&viewfull=1#post14480436
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>>162528474
>chaos
haha no
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>>162525568
Is Unique Empire States 100% cosmetic?
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>>162528393
no, you need all of sylvania for easier expansion, and vassals are shit in general.

I don't know if they buffed corruption, but vampire counts are easy to play, but can be a pain to expand with.
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>>162528551
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Someone post the roll sheet for Rome II please
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>>162525568
>yfw these motherfuckers come knocking at your borders
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>>162528695
I laugh at the floppy hat
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>>162528582
Yeah, it just redoes all the states uniforms to be their proper lore colors and stuff, adds their heraldry to their shields, neat shit like that.
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on the first day of festag
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>>162528753
>He doesn't love the floppy landsknecht hats

Out heretic, we'll not suffer a tasteless animal
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>>162528753
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>>162528548
>40 euro not full price
wow, it's 10 euro from a full price, CA and SEGA are SUCH saints.

Stop shilling based SEGA/CA coworker.
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>Not posting the boys from the land of skellybones
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>>162524731
rollan
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>>162525279
Green Knight hasn't been confirmed though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a96OkyC39Y
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>>162527232
looks like shit desu.
Having a dozen of different colors really breaks the uniformity ...yes I know, not realistic.
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>>162529004

He is confirmed with a dev post on reddit
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>>162529009
>Matt and Lindy on Time commanders
hype
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>>162528585
I only hold the starting province and I have like 30k dark magic. I starved out Templehof and they're just begging me for peace now offering themselves up as a vassal. I don't know about spreading corruption yet, but what I can tell you is this is completely ridiculous. I'm less than 20 turns in and I'm almost able to recruit Grave Guards and that one giant ass monster thing from the hollows.

I will say Vlad is a little disappointing. He isn't "decent" in melee at all. He kind of sucks honestly.
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So, who wins in a fight, Durthu or Grimgor?
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>>162529009
Hell yes
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>>162529009
Holy shit.
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>>162529327
With skills Durthu is the OG top dog combat lord. In MP Grimgor would probably beat him 1v1.
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>>162529009
>skallagrim called a manlet
lmao
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>>162529040
fair enough anon, its the opposite for me though, can't stand to look at the mono dryads because the uniformity is what upsets me. ohwell its like the tabletop, people can do whatever they want. some people painted uniformed dryads and some didn't
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>>162528551
Okay, so there's no point in buying any DLC. It's better just to wait it out.

Gotcha.

I was really fucking close to buying the Welf DLC.
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>>162529212
Remember that your armies suffer attrition the second they move away from provinces with less than 50% corruption.

This becomes a huge pain later when chaos comes, because chaos will reck your corruption.

Remember Grave Guards are pretty bad against other elite units, and that terrorgheists are pretty bad too.

The strength of Vampire Counts lies in being able to raise huge armies quickly, right after a fight.

They do have one of the strongest early games, but you will fall behind pretty fast when empire gets demigryphs and other elite units.
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>>162528551
>>162529582
stop shitposting, underneath that he continues to say

"You’ll be able to get just these and play them on their own if you like or, if you have the main game too, you’ll eventually be able to play across an expanded campaign map that includes all available areas of the Old World."

fucks sake guys
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>>162529009

>lindybeige

Am I the only one who can't stand that insufferable autist?
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>>162529473

I only watched a couple of his videos but the size of his head compared to his shoulders/chest and the way his arms look, I would say he is 5'9 at most but 5'7 more likely.
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>>162529743
If I took him seriously I'd probably feel the same way
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>>162529009
Nice
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>>162529582
No point in buying the DLC? Remember that all the games lock together. Here's the full quote I cut the end off.

>You’ll be able to get just these and play them on their own if you like or, if you have the main game too, you’ll eventually be able to play across an expanded campaign map that includes all available areas of the Old World.

I thought the whole modular format was common knowledge by now.
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>>162528551
>You’ll be able to get just these and play them on their own if you like or, if you have the main game too, you’ll eventually be able to play across an expanded campaign map that includes all available areas of the Old World.

Sooo, nothing like Rome II and Attila then?
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>>162529736
I'm not shitposting, I literally posted a source agreeing with you.

>>162529862
They were talking quality and improvement wise.
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>>162524780
>this kills the elves
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NEET elves are so weak ;-;

The parts of the roster that are made of wood are pretty good though
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>>162529743

Do what this guy does >>162529790

Most of his videos are purely his own opinions that he likes to brag about and it offends people easily.
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>>162529009
TONIGHT
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>>162529819
Sadly it's not, there's at least one new person every few days who asks that question.
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>>162524684
>09:00:00 4 me
Still sexy
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>>162529009
Lindybiege is a fucking lunatic holy shit.

This is going to be amazing.
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Grave Guard or Grave Guard Great Weapons?

Also where the fuck do I build Vampire Crypts at? I literally don't see them anywhere.
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>>162529736
Yes, so there's point in geting the base games.

Not the DLC. I am sure you will be able to play Empire and shit in Total Warhams 2 without owning anything else.

Just like you could play Rome in Atilla without owning Rome 2 :^)
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>>162530053
Get great weapons, they're great
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>>162529921
Oh fair enough, thought this was about them being separate games for some reason.

Honestly I'm rather glad with this, especially given it will effectively be two Attila's.
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>>162530053

>Grave Guard or Grave Guard Great Weapons?

Both

Grave Guard to hold the line, Grave Guard with GW to bring the pain.
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>>162525365
Make Athen great again!!!
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>>162529009
So how hard do you reckon Lionheart carried?
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>>162530053

MP? Grave guard

Get whatever in SP
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>>162530053
>Grave Guard or Grave Guard Great Weapons?
Both. Great weapons can be used to hit armored targets and flank, whereas the Grave Guard without are good line infantry (catch missile fire better, hold the line longer, etc.) They do different things, and it's important to learn how to use both of them correctly. Which is hammer and anvil.

Vampire Crypts are a T4-T5 building that can only be built in the provincial capital.
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>>162530053
Great weapons for that sweet AP, just be sure to not let them be shot up.

Also Vampire Crypts are buildable at every province city. I think they count as a purple/upgrade building.
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12 Days of Festag has begun again.
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>>162525220
You do know Warcraft was originally going to be a warhammer RTS, but GW pulled the plug
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>>162525279
>old world edition
Wait for him to be free lc
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>>162530318

Isn't Festag an empire thing?

Isn't Bretonnia in Feb 17?
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>>162530164
Probably all the way trough, we know their team, what about other team?
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>>162530462
I think Festag is an invention by CA, The closest thing to Christmas is the new Year stuff, like Bretonnia have Witching Night

>When both moons of the world are full, Bretonnians will celebrate The Lady's protection from evil magic. This is also a celebration of the Eighth Battle of Gilles Le Breton, when The Lady blessed the "good" magic wielded by The Damsels of his army. On this day, women take charge all over the nation, as a sign of respect for the Damsels. Great bonfires are built, and effigies of male magic wielders are burned (some towns will even go so far as to capture a real, living wizard to burn to little success.) These bonfires are always lit by a woman.
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From Wikipedia.

1st Battle is Rome II
2nd is Napoleon
3rd is Attila.

Also they're multiplayer battles now, rather than a player vs. AI.
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lets be honest, Treekin look amazing.
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>>162529743
I find him pretty entertaining and he is pretty knowledgeable in a lot of fields.
That being said, I honestly don't know what his beef with the concept of cavalry is...
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Stupid question, potions are "use once, gone forever" right?
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>>162530895
Nope, Once per battle iirc
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>>162530787
Why they took these clowns from youtube to CA mocap studio.
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>>162530895

No, in campaign they're once per battle, they don't. You can still use them the next battle.
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>>162530926
Oh god there's going to be CGI animations isn't there.
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>>162530164
>lindy makes an ass of himself
>lionheart makes spaghetti lines and wins.
>lindy takes credit.
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>>162530916
>>162530927
Well damn. Thanks for clearing that up.
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>>162525567
well if Blizzard makes it they will advertise it as the next ESPORT on national TV all day every day, and then the game will win awards for being the most innovative title ever and best Grand Strategy ever and CA will get hate mail for stealing ideas from blizzards

Also, narrator DLC.
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So, when is the show?
How many hours?
and is /twg/ going to be watching it?
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>>162531130
like 8 hours
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>>162531130
9pm GMT to 10pm GMT.

It's an hour long.

I will be, I imagine links will be spammed here by others.
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>>162531092
As much as CA/Sega jews to fuck, they ain't got shit on Blizzard's jewry. Blizzard make them look like goys, and they get away with it too.
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Thinking of buying TW:W
Couple of Questions
>How essential is the DLC
>If I use the white dwarf discount code does that stack with whatever it's on sale for, or is it whatever it costs now
>How faithful to the TT is it, and what key mods would people reccomend
>Are people memeing about woodelves or do they really need 80 clicks a minute to stay alive
>Now that maloghur's 'Devolve' has been worsened how fun are Beastmen to actually play
>How many more dlc's before the next expansion
And please no meme responses
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>>162525279
>the Green Knight is transparent

End Times fags btfo

Green Knight conirmed to be pre-7ed Ghost Daddy
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>>162531274

Wasn't he still a ghost in TET? Just the Ghost of Gilles le Breton
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>162529941
>NEET elves are so weak ;-;
no anon, you are so weak
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>>162531092
How are Blizzard jewing people, WoW is a sub service but all the other games are just one purchase expansions and nothing else I thought. Or did Hearthstone and Overwatch make the money go to their head.

Fuck UnitLost for selling out to overwatch and abandoning all other content they made
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>>162530664
Festag is the Empire holiday, Bretonnia actually have some winter solstice style holiday if I recall.

>>162530796
legs kinda look like something from a mecha. Pretty unusual for a tree monster.
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>>162531447
>We need SC2 content
>Lets make skins and shit to show how we are supporting the game
At least CoH2's P2W bullshit got toned down with balance changes and the Warspoils system.
Meanwhile blizzard doesn't even have anything like ingame currency
Their SC2Editor Eula killed off the modding scene before it started, and their expansion model added a huge amount of bloat into the game. They now have more units than they know what to do with.
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>>162531032
It's why a Healing Potion is the holy grail of so many campaigns. Literally doubles your lord's health bar in every single battle, which is insane on an unbreakable character like Orion or Ungrim.
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>>162531273
>How essential is the DLC
Only Blood really, the rest is added anyway but not accessibe. So you can just buy whatever you feel like playing (e.g. Grim and Grave if you like Empire or Vamps, Beastmen if you like Beastmen).

>How faithful to the TT is it, and what key mods would people reccomend
Quite faithful, it's Total War with Warhammer on top, not vice versa though. So don't expect too much. Worry about mods on second and 3rd playthroughs, and download ones for features you want to expand on.

There aren't any massive essential overhaul mods.

>Are people memeing about woodelves or do they really need 80 clicks a minute to stay alive

They're very skill intensive, but I've been playing a Very Hard campaign as them perfectly fine with traditional tactics.

>Now that maloghur's 'Devolve' has been worsened how fun are Beastmen to actually play

Morghur is fun as fuck, with a great starting position and skills. Let the other two Lords be recruited later.


>How many more dlc's before the next expansion

One or two, none of them are going to be bigger than Wood Elves though.
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>>162531273
1) The base game is very much playable by itself, we did for over a month, every DLC adds to the experience

2) dunno

3)very faithful, more faithful to TT tactics and meta than it is to other TW systems, key mods include tower range nerf, basically everything else is matter of taste

4) they are pretty underpowered at the moment, don't expect your melee line to survive any engagement since your skirmishers and archers can't bring enough pain

5) Beastmen Meta was always Minotaurs

6) I suppose it's gonna be 2 or 3 major
DLC with 4 minor additions and Lord/Unit packs thrown in between.
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>>162531273
>How essential is the DLC
apart from blood and gore which I consider essential for Warhammer, depends on what faction/s scratches your itch
>If I use the white dwarf discount code does that stack with whatever it's on sale for, or is it whatever it costs now
yes
>How faithful to the TT is it, and what key mods would people reccomend
seems alright in terms of faithfulness, graphical overhaul mods for more variety recommended
>Are people memeing about woodelves or do they really need 80 clicks a minute to stay alive
it's a skirmisher army unless you go with the treeterminator
>Now that maloghur's 'Devolve' has been worsened how fun are Beastmen to actually play
haven't played them since
>How many more dlc's before the next expansion
Bretonnia and some other minor FreeLC plus possibly another XvsY Lordpack
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>>162531273
>You don't need any DLC, but they all add something new to the game.
>No idea
>Quite faithful I would say, as much as Total war game can be
>Their archers are quite underwhelming but have the advantage of shooting while moving so you are supposed to use that.
>Spells weren't really what beastman are about anyway. They are the most fun horde faction.
>Probably few but no new races
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>>162531515
legs look like... roots?
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>>162531273
>there's more than enough content in the base game for a good 200 hours, but past that point DLC is basically mandatory
>steam discount codes stack on top of sales so it's worth waiting until christmas to see if TWW gets reduced for the double discount
>somewhat spotty to begin with but new content is largely faithful to the TT, the wood elf roster is missing only a single hero
>wood elves are very micro intensive compared to other factions, yes
>beastie boys have one of the best campaigns in the entire game
>bretonnia is FLC, no more major pieces of DLC until the expansion drops
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>>162531653
Sorry for being a grammar nazi, but you said yes to two options, but I'm assuming you mean 25% off sale price, also does it look like it'll go on sale for Winter Sale. Or should I buy it now as it's 25% off
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What would you do in this situation /twg/?
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>>162531354
I never read it lmao

And I honestly don't care either, everything that isn't stated as outright fact in the Armybooks is up for interpretation of my Headcanon
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>>162531781
Praise Khorne and become a spawn
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>>162531781
I'd hold the line, for that is all that has been asked of me.
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>>162531813
End Times is canon.
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>>162532160
it's canon for Nu-Hammer
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>>162532160
TWW has absolutely no association with the End Times or AoS licenses, so it's not canon in terms of the video game.
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I'm enjoying Morghur much more than the Wood Elves desu.
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>>162524731

Pls no gobbo archers
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>>162532264
I loved spawn to begin with, it's so great to see a character designed around them.
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>>162532264
>Playing a character which is glaringly assymetrical.

NORMIES GET OUT
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>>162532160
It's Warhammer Fantasy Battle Canon, but not TW:W canon, who knows they might remake certain bits, e.g. Characters who were hyped up to be the best but got no kills, or Settra saying HE BOWS TO NO ONE, may be to a bloodthrister and not the actual chaos gods
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>>162531751
my bad, was referring to the 25%discount applying on top of any current discount
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>>162532391
Symmetry is a retard you meme
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>>162531273
>If I use the white dwarf discount code does that stack with whatever it's on sale for, or is it whatever it costs now
You don't get 45% off but you get 20% off the 75%
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>>162531710
Awesome that the codes stack, I took mine off my white dwarf like an idiot but thankfully it was just down the back of the bed not thrown out.
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>>162532331
haha, get rekt scrub
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>>162531273

>How essential is the DLC
Not very, anything you don't own is in the game just only usable by the AI. Pretty much if you don't think you'll play with it then don't worry about getting it. I do think blood and gore, while horrible bullshit that it's even DLC, does make a big difference for the feeling of the battles.

>If I use the white dwarf discount code does that stack with whatever it's on sale for, or is it whatever it costs now
Can't say for sure but it should? I'm pretty sure I've had discounts stack in the past.

>How faithful to the TT is it, and what key mods would people reccomend
It's not a 1-1 of the TT but it captures the feeling very well and the voice acting is really good. Mods are a bit hard because they keep breaking every update, for the most part it's jsut a case of looking through the work shop and seeing what looks good to you.

>Are people memeing about woodelves or do they really need 80 clicks a minute to stay alive
Their early game is a bit underpowered at the moment and they do require more planning and micro management but it's hardly StarCraft tier shit. Once you get into the late game stuff or use a lot of tree units it's fine.

>Now that maloghur's 'Devolve' has been worsened how fun are Beastmen to actually play
They're the best horde faction so far. But they are still a horde faction so the same problems are still there. Honestly Devolve was bullshit on release (you could take out half an army with two casts.) but everything else about Beastmen works more or less the same. Minotaurs are a joy to watch as they go to town. Overall they're pretty solid, everything has a point, just still missing a few units.

>How many more dlc's before the next expansion
Not sure exactly, they said Wood elves was the biggest they'd get before the next expansion. I think the asmption is that the Bretonnian FLC in February will be the last. Given thats FLC there will probably be a few more packs before and with it.
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>>162532391
?
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Jesus

Fucking

Christ
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>>162532548
Is blood paid dlc because CA are jews, or so that it can have a lower rating and so they can get the younger audience in. Are the blood spurts as comical as they were in shogun 2?
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>>162532562
post more TW related cringe

Anyone have the twitter screencap of some dude yelling at CA for ripping off warcraft?
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>>162532331
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>>162532562
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That's a new one I haven't seen before.
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Can someone post a screenshot of Eternal Guard with shields?
They're plain, have a dark turquoise tone and look completely out of place.
Is my graphics card/driver fucking up or do they actually look that strange?
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>>162532562
>people who watch other people play games are underage retards
Stop the presses
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Will we see him today?

I'm looking forward to seeing what CA can cook up now that they have an almost completely blank slate.
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>>162532562
>Igor
This guy is a long time Legend fan, and all of his posts are about this cringey, and his pp showing his face guarantees you're gonna get some NAMBLA guy agreeing with him
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Are general's bodyguards completely absent in TWW?
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>>162532805
there are mods for it IIRC.
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Name a fun faction.

I don't care about the best, I just want fun.
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>>162532643
>dey don't call me da fool on da wall for nothing you grot
Are handgunners as bad as matchlock ashigaru in TW:S2 or now have an actual use?
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>>162532647
It's probably not your GPU but it is on your end. I can tell you right now they're not supposed to be turquoise. Verify the integrity of the game cache on steam and see if anything is redownloaded.
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>>162532845
which game?
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>>162532865

Significantly better damage than archers against high armor targets.
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>>162532732
>RPG
Fantasy Flight was great for the community but few are included in the GW canon. FYI Forgeworld, Black Library and Gw all operate in parralel universes unless said otherwise
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>>162532805
Yes. Characters are strong enough by themselves, they don't need bodyguards or retinues.
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>>162532865
>matchlock ashigaru
>bad
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>>162532917
TW:W
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>>162532896
>I can tell you right now they're not supposed to be turquoise
Thanks, I've thought so but I haven't found any pictures and youtube's locked at work ;_;
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>>162532805
Yes it's called any unit you want, you could even give him artillery bodyguard if you really wanted
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>>162532997

>Youtube locked
>4chan isn't

Pretty competent employers you have there m80
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>>162532980
Compared to the available archers yes they were
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>>162532647
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>>162532865
Gunpowder units deal AP damage which is absolutely vital against the inevitable Chaos invasions.
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>>162533061
Who is this 4chan?
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I'm predicting a bunch of fresh new memes cropping up after tonight.
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>>162533061
yes surely 4chan is on the radar of every employer
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>>162533242
Maybe they think their employees wouldn't be such lowlife degenerates.
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>>162533237
Please no, we're already at threshold with the Welf realse.
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>>162533147
Only the shields look bad compared to the actual models
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>>162532621
Most people say it's due to the rating and I think thats part of it but I also think they're being jews at the same time.

The spurts aren't as over the top or bright as shogun 2 but they do make people look like they're covered in red paint. Good news is there's a mod "Less Blood Less Gore" Just subscribe to it and don't follow the extra steps and you'll have better blood textures while keeping the other effects.

Oh also it does add things in like dismemberment too.
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>>162533343

The shields are plain but they have lots of small details if you look carefully.

Which is silly since you'll never see it in battle but whatever
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>>162533361
>dismemberment
Does this affect their actual combat performance or is it purely cosmetic
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>>162532951
Didn't CA's press release on Alberic mention basically the stuff from WFRP though? Seems like they're using their version of him.

Plus it would make a cool character, Free veterancy for Knights but they're more expensive, quest battles in his journey to find the Grail. It would be sweet.
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>>162533343

>Eternal Guard
>Infinity symbol on their shields

REALLY FIRES THE RECEPTORS
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>>162532845
>>162532994
>Wood Elves
Swarming everything with the basic units or using the elites and shredding the enemy army before they reach your main line is fun.
Also Durthu and his merry band of rape trees is one of the greatest TW experiences ever

>Beastmen
Campaign mechanics and Minotaurs are damn fun, raze -> hide -> run -> raze and so on

>Empire
Looks really cool, has access to most magic lores and has great units but the start is kinda boring

>Vampires
Great and pretty much complete roster of zombies, skeletons and monsters.
Interesting start with lots of potential enemies.
If you like to take it slow then vampire corruption is also great.

>Greenskins
Skarsnik and Wurzzag are cool with their special gimmicks, Grimgor and especially Azhag aren't really fun tbqh

>Chaos
With mods they can be fun

>Dwarfs
Don't
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>>162533430
No, losing your arms or your legs does not affect your combat ability.
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>>162533468
>herpaderp every 8 is an infinity
Dude they're clearly from 8thchan, and we're the DE
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>>162533147
I don't get the effect on the left one, mine always look as plain as the right one... mod for good looking shields when?
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>>162533543
I have a feeling that Chaos Warriors will be a lot more fun once all 4 chaos gods rosters will be released.
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>>162533430
Mostly cosmetic. For living units it happens when they die, they'll lose arms/heads/torsos if they take a heavy hit (Monster unit attacks, getting hit by arty that sort of thing). If you're playing undead though you can get Skellies or Zombies that are missing arms/heads as they fight and lose them through combat.
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>>162533691
Probably, I sure hope so.
I want to burn the whole world to the ground in a Chaos Warriors campaign that isn't a fucking chore
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>>162533543
Dwarfs are fun though. They're kinda relaxing in a way.
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>>162532515
Am I correct in the following then
>base price
£39.99
>christmas sale 50% off
19.995
round to to £19.99 base during christmas
>white dwarf code is 20% off
19.99 times 0.8 is 15.992
Round to £15.99

So £15.99 for the base game with max sales
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>>162533691
I can't wait until we get Tzaangors and all the other stuff we had back in the Realms of Chaos books
back in the days were it was 'mature reading', but now I can walk into a GW and a 6 year old girl is playing DE
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>>162533691
Chaos really does need a overhaul.

Good news is it probably will get one.

Bad news is it wont happen for two or more years.
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>>162533894
I highly doubt we're gonna get more than the current 25% off, but yes it would work like that.
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>>162529592
>Remember that your armies suffer attrition the second they move away from provinces with less than 50% corruption.
It is not much of a problem really because you have both raiding and chanelling stances which make you immune to attrition. What is it with all the people who always give advice on a faction without understanding most basic things.
The only thing you need to know about VC is utilizing you necromancer agents for cost reduction of buildings (namely vampire keeps and towers),
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>>162533983
PESTIGORS
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>>162533983
>tfw you'll never know the pride of knowing your 6 year old daughter plays a faction of skill like Dark Elves/Eldar
I do miss when things where more thought out though.
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>>162533983
>>162534085
Why did they remove marks for beastmen?
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>>162530787
>rather than a player vs. AI.

It never was against the AI. Somebody was playing the enemy behind the scenes.
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>>162533983
It's looking like they'll go for individual armies for each god, so everything should make it in. Nurgle will get plaguebearers and MoN warriors and pestigors in one army, and so on.
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>>162534204
Because fun is forbidden, anon.
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>>162534204

Because the 3 people who owned and played them probably wouldn't have cared anyway.
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>>162534313
>three people

There were *literally* tens of us, anon. Be careful who you insult.
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>>162534223
I don't see why it'd be individual, Daemons are just one faction in 8th same as any other. There's only 5-7 unique units to each god, not enough for a faction. Obviously I agree there'll be LLs for each God who start with God related units and upkeep discounts but the player will just play a general faction.
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>>162534313
Fuck you, I liked my 16 magic dice per turn.
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>>162534397
The Datamine shows them as different factions.
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>>162529792
AHHHHHHHHHH
Mrs Gunfire
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>>162534220
I should have said pseudo-AI. Yeah obviously the AI never did any of that shit.

Do you think it's better that they're dropping the notion of players vs history and making it true form player vs player?
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>>162534397
I'm sure that each faction of God will have unique units in the form of cultists and chaos warriors exclusive to that god.
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>>162532805
Wish you could attach your heroes/lords to units to protect them better like DoW. The lord sniping meta is pretty annoying.
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>>162534626
>Mrs Gunfire
Kek
I liked those two hosts though.
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>>162534652
>Do you think it's better that they're dropping the notion of players vs history and making it true form player vs player?

Is it confirmed that it will be like that for every episode?
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>>162529792
Quite cute actually.
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>>162534675
you can put them in the middle of a control group.
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>>162534397
Because the list of factions have already been leaked, and the second expansion has been shown to have one for each god. WoC and Beastmen as they're currently implemented will most likely be renamed and repurposed as Undivided whilst we get four new pantheon specific factions to fill full of daemons and shit.
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>>162534750
I'm just going by the one-line Wikipedia summary. I guess my question can be applied case-by-case as well as hypothetically, depending on if they do it every episode, a few or for none.
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>>162534675
Honestly this? Or at least having the option to buy 'bodyguard' units.

Even if it meant lords getting nerfed. While I like how survivable they are they are a bit disgustingly strong.
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>>162534204
Because Tom Kirby decided both warhams was about GRIM DARKNESS OF THE BLUD BLOOD, and not satirical 80's humour. So these mutant borns rejected by their biological parents will also be abandoned by father nurgle who loves everyone and who asks his elf godess prisoner waifu before trying to bone her.

verdict is still out on whether this was his concious decision or technology advancing to where skulls could be a matching size
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>>162534783
>>162534432
>still beleiving the Russian leak

Sure it was probably legit but CA aren't under any pressure to release to some preordained schedule and could change it at any time. They already demonstrated that with Chaos and Wurrzag.
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>>162524731
>All these characters
>Expansion sometime next year
>Brets next year
>Another 5 factions
>At least 10 new characters
God fucking dammit im getting those feels again, I waited 400 days for TWW to come out and the itching feeling of counting the days for New World is starting
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>>162534397
It could be indivual due to the different gods hating at least 2 other gods apart from nurgle, or it might be one big army but the lord leading the army decides who you can recruit. DESU who doesn't want to play a whole monster army of shaggoths, dragon orgres, cygors, jabberslyths, minotuars and giants
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>>162534675
funnily enough you sorta can, get a medium size unit like horses/monsters,

place them in a formation around the lord and lock the control group, long as the blocking groups bigger than the lords they will take a lot of any incoming projectiles
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>>162529009
>lindybeige
I can't wait to see /his have another spasm like this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTU8WbTbZMI
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>Elfs have tech that increases diplo with Norsca

These guys are literally chaos worshippers in disguise
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Are graveguard the weakest elite infantry in the game?

VC can heal and buff units like crazy but 1v1 GG seem a bit weak.
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>Gorfang Rotgut being a tutorial enemy means no Kazador vs Gorfang LL pack ever.
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>>162535203
Stop taking the shielded version
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>>162535203
1v1 sure, but if you arent running a vc army with some passive regen your in for a bad time, also remember that while they are weaker due to never running they will keep on fighting longer than most units would reach the runaway point.
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>>162535203
They aren't exactly elite, that's monsters and Blood Knights and whatnot, more like medium tier.

And the entire VC roster is defenitely designed with buffing/healing in mind.
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>>162533089
Not in siege defense, which you would get a lot of.
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>>162534962
The Russian leak was obviously CAs development roadmap at one point in time that was coded into the gamefiles. Still a reasonable guide for future plans.
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>>162524731
RO OLQWFWELF OLLLR ORLLL
ROLL
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>that unit of Halberds who fight to the last next to Franz

rip Halberds of Helmgart
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>>162535203
They aren't elite, they're a slightly superior line infantry. VC are expected to use characters and monsters as their elite.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=817040576

Recommend some cosmetics, UI, unit, or graphical, to be added
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>all the magic shit in TWW that I'm gonna have to learn about
I just want to hammer and anvil like a true understander of strategy
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>>162535238
What's so special about those two? Why would I want to spend my money on them?

Sell them to me. No lore shit.
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So, before I churn out shekels for the DLC, are Wood Elves basically a Warhammer version of Tanukhids, ie. glass cannon, very mobile faction that if micro-managed properly instantly crushes and routs similarly sized armies?
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>>162534998
Again I beleive there will be ai daemon factions just like how there are ai dwarf factions, but the player themselves will play a general faction and you'll choose out of 4 LLs associated with different Gods (Valkia/Skarbrand for Khorne, Vilitch for Tzeentch, Festus or a maggoth lord for Nurgle and who knows for Slaanesh). You'll have access to different gods units with buildings like altars etc. Also WoC need a lot of units to be added so a possible FLC there.
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>>162524614

Stop destroying all of Bretonnia you stupid nigger tree.
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>>162533894
>>162534025
>more than 25%
cmon CA it's been a year stop jewing us, anyway the basegame is the gateway drug, most people will then buy all the DLC in the next sale, so really it's a win win.

Anyone else got buyer's remorse, I got XCoM with all the DLC and only played 2 missions because the guys I spent 2 hours customising killed each other in confusion.
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>>162535493
Yeah, except Tanukhids are cool and elves are fags.
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>>162535391
Time for tree rape, anon
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>>162535404
Halberds are undeniably one of the best units in the game, fuckers do not give up and deal pain to everything

Halberds always so based in everything
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>>162535518
>Treemen have been on that land since before the inception of elves, let alone men
>"NAY MUH LADY SAID IT'S FOR ME"
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>Implying Morghurs mutation powers won't make a double negative and prevent the dryad from changing into her combat form.
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>>162535493
Si, only you can actually get into slugout fights too, if you go full tree.
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>>162535493
>crushes and routs
No. Elves wittle the enemy down with arrows and charges over time.

They are more like the Slavic factions in Attila that poison enemies and wait for them to die.
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Do you think that is the final paid DLC for this game?

Tomb Kangs next game i assume, if they follow the same pattern we might see a lord pack but who for?

They said no paid DLC for DLC, so that leaves only the 4 base factions and they all have RoR and the final Empire lord is likely to be the old friend.
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When are skaven slated to release again?
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>>162535628
>Implying all wood elves aren't hungry for the bestial everchanging cock of the avatar of corruption.
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>>162535386
what do you mean, 'coded into the gamefiles?' That means nothing, CA are no doubt working on assets some time ahead of their release (they said they were working on the Hydra recently) but it has nothing to do with release order. It's also contrary to what CA themselves have officially stated regarding addition of land in expansions and the golden number of 4 factions per expansion.
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>>162535435
don't worry, magic is utter shit

just play the dwarfs and it won't be a problem
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>>162535729
>Implying your waifu is real
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>>162535404
Mod to rename units?
In eu4 I give my units medals for wars they survived, eg WoR for the war of the roses
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>>162535704
>Giant rat men
Pftttt, those dont exist.
New World Expansion next year along with High Elves, Dark Elves and Lizardbros
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>>162535493
>>162535541
>>162535668
Wood Elves seems more Burgundians than Tanukhids.
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>>162532264
Just completed a grand campagin with him.
The "fall of man" battle was basically 10 minutes of feeding my chaos spawn.
mfw
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>>162535435
You hradly need to learn anything. Just throw out a few buffs/debuffs once in a while
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>>162535873
you can rename units
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>>162535878
>ratmen
>real
I seriously hope you surfacers don't believe this
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>>162535850
>Magic is shit
>Light, Little and Big Waaagh, Shadow, Vampires...
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>>162535604
>not getting the american analogy
WEW LAD
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>>162535428

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=741053231
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=755893565
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=724900732
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=718191447
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700457110
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=758184450
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=725375291
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=768003111
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=760978663
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=707665689
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>>162535940
Yeah, it's shit.
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>>162535936
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>>162535940
>Dont even have Lizard magic yet
You're all in for some real shit then
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He said he wanted to hammer and anvil, Dwarfs are shit and cant do that.
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>>162535704
According to Russian leak its the next faction after Bretonnia, and probably before first expansion. Generally that makes sense since CA deliberately left Skavenblight free similar to how Athel Loren was left.
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>>162535987
Quality post. I'm not gonna add vlad, since I want the collection to be as compatible as possible
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>>162530840
He's massively wrong about every topic I know something about, and I have no reason to think he's any smarter when it comes to the fields I know nothing about.

He's a dumb larping faggot with an accent that americans think means he's well-read.
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At level one, what is the strongest LL?
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>>162535672
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Valten
That's the old friend, he's sigmar reborn
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>>162536256
Example?
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>>162535672
>Do you think that is the final paid DLC for this game?

Devs said WE is the last big piece of DLC (read: race pack) for this game but that there's still minor ones to come.

>>162535704
2018 most likely
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>>162536271
Kholek
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>>162535729
How is she trapped, her chest can clearly go through the bars.
Does the hard chin look quite masculine to anyone else?
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>>162536256
"You can't draw a bow with a bent arm" is one of his gems while trashing movies, when it's perfectly possible if you've ever lifted a weight in your life, and the former RAF weapons-master who gave me a half hour lesson on a stag weekend said that a bent arm is the right way to do it so you don't smash the shit out of your arm with the string (one lad had bruises for weeks because he was retarded).
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>>162535435
Simple intro to teaching yourself to understander of magic strategy:
>1. Use it to target (debuffs or damage) a single enemy unit on one edge of their battle line, so you break it quicker with your matching edge line unit, and then wrap around their line and H&A.
>2. Use whatever buffs are available to throw them on your units once they hit combat. Either on the edge of your line like above, or just toss on whatever is in combat.
>3. Use magic like artillery. You have an amount of usable ammunition (magic points), hit the enemy with your spell projectiles until all your ammo (magic points) run out.

Once you start using them like that you'll get the hang of what spells are better than others, learning the different spells, and using them with nuance. But don't need to overcomplicate it at the beginning, just fling shit to start with. Magic is a bonus adjunct to battle.

Remember to recruit wizards early and include them in your armies for XP bonuses. Need to level them up to get access to all their spells.
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>>162536082
Can't wait for the slaan to bring down some of Moresleb down
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>>162536423
>said that a bent arm is the right way to do it so you don't smash the shit out of your arm

that's just false
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>>162533343
Old style ET were better.

Corinthian helms instead of this wannabe High shit
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>>162536423
How the fuck could you draw to below your cheek if you didn't bend your arm? the string would cut into your side and skin your arm.
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>>162536271
>>162536339
At level thirty, what is the strongest LL?
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>>162536271
Kholek because all of his attacks are knockdowns.
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Hey fellow dwarves grudges am I right?

Wazzock! Hahaha.
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>>162536706
Durthu, I think
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>>162536706
1vs1? Kholek
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>>162536339
>>162536752
>>162536742
Why are Kholek and Durthu so fucking based?
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>>162536719
Someting smells rotten here
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reminder that durthu beats kholek
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>>162535737
CA literally coded a roadmap series of sequentionally numbered releases into the gamefiles with descriptions as placeholders. Read the original """leak""" anon. It wasn't a """leak""", it was data mining the gamefiles.
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>>162536423
>>162536632
He's wrong about the fact that you can't, unless it's a seriously heavy bow, but it is inefficient. You keep the arm straight and use protection, only moving the arm at the shoulder as well as angling the torso. If you use efficient form you shouldn't hit yourself with the string much anyway btw, it mostly happens if you're tired.

t. former archer
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>>162535435
It's really not a big deal. I just pick the lores with buffs and pretend that they're unit abilities from R2 or Attila, except I can pick which unit to put them on and I only have a limited number per battle.

>shock cavalry about to go balls deep? better give them some damage and speed boosts!
>line faltering? oh man, time to give those guys some armor! hopefully they'll hold for long enough!

And so on. Damage spells are so weak that it's smarter to just buff and debuff for the entire battle.
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>>162536706
Durthu or Grimgor, probably. Kholek just doesn't get enough stat boots to remain viable in combat against other characters towards the end of a campaign.
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>>162536814

Seems to be the case

A couple things

They cost about the same with their items and no magic on durthu
Kholek has more raw damage and anti large
Durthu has magic attacks and charge defence, which helps him greatly on impact against Kholek
Durthu has 50 more armour, but Kholek has scaly skin and no weakness to fire
Kholek has no encourage, Durthu does
Kholek is A LOT faster than Durthu, 80 speed, faster than heavy cav and almost as fast as most cav
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>>162536791
Because they're fuckhuge and as a result vulnerable to projectiles?
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>>162536719
The first time I noticed that beard I was actually kind of upset. That's centuries of Dwarfen progress ruined by a smelly, spiteful goblin.
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>>162537120

Kholek can get to 80% ward save lad, he's the strongest lord in the game at 30, only Archaon comes close because he also reaches pretty high ward saves.
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>>162536337
>Last major DLC Dec 2016
>Stanalone expansion not till 2018
That's a big gap of lost sales & hype anon. Tomb Kangs & Chaos Dwarfs areas are already on the map when you zoom out.
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>>162537198
I thought they patched that out. How do you get it that high, anyway?
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>>162537120
Grimgor has no mount and gets knocked around, but he does hurt the most.
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>>162535428
pretty good anon, umm would you consider cataphs southern realms and kraka drak packs? (they do add units but eh, flavour)

also less blood less gore
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>>162536719
Wait, what am I looking at?
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>>162537256
20% from his item, 20% ward save from amulet, 10% from blue armour, 25% from banner.
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>>162537405
an average dwarf
a dead dwarf on Skarsniks back
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>>162537505
That's a regular Night Goblin Warboss.
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>>162536791
Because they're big guys for (You)
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>>162524731
ROLL
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>>162536832
source?
>>162537035
>armor
CA is British, so you shall say armour, lest the queensguard execute you for treason
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>>162536719
That's a grudgin'
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>>162537746

Like I care
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When're they going to remove all the busy-work involved in quests?

I love the scenarios, but fuck me it's aggravating as fuck with all this agent bullshit you had to go through. It's not difficult, just incredibly tedious.

Doing Grombrindel's quests right now and fuck me.

The A.I doesn't have to do this shit. Legendary lord items aren't even that good enough to be worth the bullshit generally.
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>>162537558
right, only looked at it for a moment before
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>>162532951
2nd Edition was not FFG, it was Black Library.

t. owner of the collector's edition of 2nd edition
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>>162537390
I hear what you're saying, and generally agree. I'll go out and be "productive", and then probably add them when I get home

Also added Bon's varied generals (pictured) and less blood
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Is Durthu's Sword of Daith a legendary item or just a skill?

He didn't have any items in TT is why I'm asking.
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>>162537806

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=808802871
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>>162537795
That makes me really happy for some reason!
Does Durthu also have some proper execution animations? I want to genocide those fucking useless dirt slurping shit hole dwellers!
Fuck Dwarfs, there's no other race more deserving of all the shit happening to them

inb4 le grudging XD
le ebin book of complaints :^^^^)
le angry manlet screeching :3
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>>162537195
>Pre War of the Beard
>"fuck Grobi, gobbo genocide best day of my life

>post War of the beard
>"waaaaah help me Humans, the Grobi are killing us!!"
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>>162537806
I just want Azhag to be fixed

He is literally the worst LL in the campaign because getting his crown is so insanely difficult considering how fundamental it is to him
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>>162537795
>beastman
That's a grudging for not writing it in the book of grudges properly but still audible kek
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>>162538017

He has 2, he grabs with his foot and crushes and he grabs with the tendrils from his hand
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>>162538017
t. Ravandil
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>>162538031
>those terrifying almost unhinged jaws of the orcs
>meanwhile in TWW welcome to wacky tacky sunday cartoon special!
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>>162538129
No sword executions?
Well, as long as Dwarfs are dying painfully I'm happy
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http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/First_Day_of_Festag_2016

Time Commanders stuff.
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>>162535493
got a strat guide for tanukids or just general green tips?
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>>162538180

No excutions, sword only adds 2 attacks to treeman moveset, he plunges his sword into the ground like the Avatar of Khaine in DoW 2 and he does a large horizontal sweep
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>>162538031

What's that floating thing with all the arc lightning?
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>>162537954
Amazing.

Thanks.
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>>162538180
Aww, did Urist hurt your feelings?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC-ZanQjHXM
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>>162537926
Both if I remember correctly
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>>162537731
http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html
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>>162536893
sure with modern target bows, but use anything like a recurve or longbow and you should have your arm slightly bent, it also allows you to brace the force from either end of the bow and prevent it throwing the arrow off course.
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>>162537731
http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html
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>Time Commanders: Warhammer
would you watch it
I would
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>>162538236
I'm ok with that, lets see if I can get a few nice screenshots of some slaughter
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>>162538149
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>>162532264
How do you deal with the lack of minotaurs? I thought Morghur's army bonus was 40% cheaper chaos spawn and 40% more expensive minotaurs, not the faction bonus. They're the Beastmen's best (most fun?) unit
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>>162538627
it wouldn't be time commanders, it'd be warhammer commanders or some shit. Also warhammer battles in the fluff aren't described in any tactical/strategic detail normally.
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Are Beastmen worth the high price tag?
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>>162538864
Chaos spawns with 0 upkeep

JesusChristHowHorrifying.jpg
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>>162538739
Most orcs are not like ironhide
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>>162538383
have you ever done archery?
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>>162538210
what the fuck, this is the first time I've seen this
Why does Total War have a british reality tv show hosted by richard hammond
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>>162538383
Nah, you still shoot with the arm straight. You should obviously not hyperextend the elbow, but if you do that it's your fault for having no muscles.
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>>162538696
To be fair, I don't think anything else has the sword animation, so it is unique to him.

I expected something like a "stab through it, lift it to the sky, and laugh at it" DoW II style. But what we got isn't too bad.

>>162539023
I actually really came to love the race after trying them out in this game. However I can most definitely say they aren't.

Wait for a sale or something, they are barely worth fifteen in my opinion. And because of the shitty mini-campaign, I'd say even that is a stretch.
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>>162539023
If you have a minotaur fetish yes, if not no
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>>162538627

Fuck the hell yes.

>The year is 488, the chill winds of winter blow across Athel Loren, the Asrai are silent, Ariel sleeps beneath the Oak of Ages and on the edge of the forest, terror stirs.
>The dread Lichemaster Heinrich Kemmler leads his army of the damned into the sacred wood, intent on raising the numberless dead that rest beneath the hills of Cairnost and forging an undying horde so vast that none could stand before it.
>Yet despite the lethargy of the Wood Elves, Athel Loren is not without defenders, Durthu, the eldest of Ancients, chief among the Woodland spirits has been roused by the foul Necromancer's transgression and with him stirs the blazing wrath of the enchanted wood.
>Can 4 university students lead Durthu and the spirits of the forest to victory or will the unholy might of Kemmler crush all before him?
>This, is Time Commanders
>*roll intro*
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>>162539235
>contestants in full cosplay as the general they're controlling
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>>162535428
I dislike how the Unqiue Empire States mod slaps too much armor on the regular imperial infantry. The amount of armor they wear doesn't really reflect their ingame stats and TT models.
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>>162539127
Because we love our history, why else do you think british people actually have a roman accent
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>>162539116
>>162539145
>I shoot 30lbs draw bows

kek
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>>162539235
>>162539442
I fucking need this
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>>162537795
Do other lords have unique animation as well?
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>>162539520
Dude, the heavier it is the more important a straight arm is. Among other things I shot a 55lbs traditional when I was 14.
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>>162539503

Yeah same here after I noticed the insane amount of armor

Been using http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742323834, seems alot better tbhq
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>>162539664
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>>162539664
gee captain planet sure does h8 birds
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>>162539789
All according to keikau
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>>162539756
>among other things

yeah you shot a load up your sisters ass.
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>>162539789

Lords of change are so goofy
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>>162539789
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_sVsU0m0IQ
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>>162533543
>wood elves are a small elite faction in tabletop and lore
>total war warhammer turns them into a swarm army

Creative Assembly was a mistake.
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>>162538017
A reminder that Wood Elves, Vampire Counts, the Beastmen and the Warriors of Chaos are the only permissible factions to play; if you do not play only these factions and SLAY EVERY MORTAL then you are likely a MORTAL FOOOOOOOL and most certainly don't know deep lore such as that magic is literally Chaos.
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>>162540117
you fags are just lucky that Helfs aren't in to fuck your shit up yet.
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>>162540068
The transgender jewish leaf behind every post
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>>162540068
You better not be insulting that beautiful woman
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>>162540068
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CHAOS LEAVE FOREST REEEEEE
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>>162540242
delfs > helfs > welfs
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>>162535672
Who knows maybe Vampire Kangz will come before the next game
>>
Will they ever give dragons breath attacks?
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>Have the turn 15 WE campaign crashing issue
wew lad
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>>162540304
Delfs=Helfs>Welfs
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>>162540068
Damm, he returned. Well, I liked the duo.
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>>162540350
Giants have breath attacks, so I don't see why not
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>>162540386
>>162540304

Helfs>>>>>>>shit>Welfs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>literal maggots that inhabit shit>>>Delfs
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>>162540068
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>>162539789
>he..he..s fast
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>>162540350
forest dragon has an acid attack.

Seen him do it too.
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>>162540386
>white lions have to kill a white lion with their bare hands
>yet also adopt white lions as companions

Lions must be fucking dumb to follow a guy that wears their parents as a shirt.
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>>162540498
>Helfs are literally dying due to being fags

okay
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>>162539789
>you have no power here
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>when non understanders try to play Total War
Kinda hype that Time Commanders is back though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0tOb_bFj70
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>>162540741
Korhil was the only one to wrestle a white lion, the others use axes, spears and bows.
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>>162540302
>All that Eternal Guard
For what purpose?
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>>162540768
>literally dying

at elf speed, which means they'd still be around when the Empire has crumbled, replaced by a Beastmen Empire, crumbled again and replaced by a Goblin Empire.

so around 10k~ years in the future. Then the High Elves would run an actual risk of dying out at the earliest.
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>>162540825
gonna be fun watching lionheart shit all over them
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>>162540302

We did it reddit, the forest is safe again.
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>>162540825
god this is so bizarre to me that this sexists and I didn't know about it
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>>162540935
I wonder how much gamey cheese he will bring.
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>>162540920
You failed to address the principle issue

>Dying due to being homo
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>>162540068
Have a baseline
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The maze, Dolores
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So, uh, do I just replace all swordsmen with greatswords by the time Chaos starts pouring in?
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>>162540954

What sexists?
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>>162540935
>>162540983
will Lionheart be in an episode? I had no idea. Nice!
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>>162541016
>Can't even be arsed to put some basic effort into his /pol/ shitposting
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>>162540741
>'I didn't study the ottomans at school' the post
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>>162541046
Uh, you don't get to bring Greatswords
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>>162541046
If you can afford it, sure.
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>>162541046
Just transfer the swordsmen to cheaper garrison armies. But your main army should have GS instead, yea. Not too many though, only enough to hold the center with your halberds while your cav, range and heroes does the killing.
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>>162541105
>waah he has paint not photoshop at work
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>>162541045
Please, explain.
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>>162540881

Because they are pretty good with the right upgrades. Their leadership was 115 in that forest battle.
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>>162539789
Multi-tentacle drifting!
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>>162541046
If you're a wimp, sure.
use them for your mainline, but a keep a few halberds in reserve to counter cav/monsters
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>>162540068
oh no they brought him back....I was seriously hoping they'd just get new hosts to avoid the issue. Fuck me
>>
Why is CA making the Empire harder to play every update? It seems like every newly produced faction tends to like fighting the Empire.

On my last Franz campaign, I tried to ignore Bretonnia and concentrate on the East solely. But this is impossible, becouse either you are attacked by elves becouse they are just fgts or you get harashed by endless Beastmen spawns and/or Bretonian duches tend to declare war on you. If ally them, they will involve you in war becouse they like to fight eachother to make it easier for WElves. Plus, you get Skarsnik and Angry Dwarves as competition in the South.

Any advices? I tend to lack money to produce enough stacks to 'fend both the South and keep Vampires on leash.
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The fuck am I supposed to be doing as Durthu?

Should I be cleansing the elf shits from the forest one by one or should I be trading with them and looking outward?

Their garrison + their initial stack is pretty sizable but I have fuck all income. They also don't see to have a problem running out of amber because one of them is using like 6 units.
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>>162541232
Harry potter
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>>162541307
>Any advices?
Guns, Steel and Faith!
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>>162541015
>homo

Got any source on that, manlet?
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>>162541307
simple don't expnad that far, and just sack the provinces there
>>162541307
but >muh germs
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>>162541225
If all you have to offer is weak /pol/ bait, at least make it look nice.
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>>162541045
Nobody really understands this meme and it isn't very good. Thanks for trying, though. Sorry it isn't working out.
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>>162541528
That's why I said baseline, you oaf
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>>162541247
Huh, how about that?
I never used them as anything but a fence for my Glade Guard and only until I could afford Treekin.
I might have to look further into that.
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>>162541307
I did an Empire legendary vanilla on welf release day and it wasn't that bad.

Welfs act like Beastmen pesticide, although they always become the biggest powerblock. I expanded into bretonnia. Took Marienburg, wiped out Skarsnik.

Then I of course watched Middenland and Nordland burn because they REFUSED to allow me to access to their land, like they do every fucking game, despite the fact I give them half my income in gifts.
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FUUUCKKK

There's nothing more annoying than trying to kill the norscans at the end of the game.

They have so many armies and they never stop spawning and rebuilding their cities I raze.
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>>162541307

>non-stop complaining on how beastmen hordes die on the 5th turn
>CA actually buffs the hordes

>people still complain
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>>162541307
Because they are undeniably the strongest faction in the game and TWW has a serious issue in being far too fucking casual

Heres a pro tip; declare war on all the chaos factions turn 1. No one likes chaos, and being their enemies makes everyone else like you. If you spend the first 30 turns killing chaos and paying attention to your diplomatic screen you can get brets, elves and dwarfs as allies easily. Once shit hits the fan with the Chaos invasion you can even get orcs and vampires.
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>beastmen stack runs up to me
>i get ambushed

Nigga wat
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>>162541753
you need 3 stacks at least. then just send one along the southern coast. one along the northern and one in the middle and sack everyting. will take maybe 20turns
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>>162541893

Beastmen are always in ambush stance
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>>162541691
For what?
All you have done is pointing out he/she's jewish.
What great opus of comedy do you expect to be drived from that?
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>>162541893

Beastmen have a chance to ambush while attacking. It's their "free win" RNG mechanic.
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>>162541848
>Total War is played by idiots
You dont say

Smart people play GSG/4X
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>>162541893
they have like a 25% chance or something to ambush anyone they attack. prepare for Big Beast cock
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>>162541949
>>162541979
Who thought that was a good idea

>>162542010
I alt+f4'd because fuck that noise
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>>162541985
>4X/GSG
>Requiring skill
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>>162541893

Being able to ambush offensively is their entire gimmick you mong.
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>Mortars in sieges
Fuck the Empire. Pic related was pretty much all my gobbo's faces when scaling the fucking walls. Three fucking mortars? Really? And as I type this they are building them back to shit out on to the campaign map. 200 fucking kills on each one of them. 200. Jesus Christ this is fucking ridiculous.
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>>162541985
>Smart people play GSG/4X
I used to.
I stoped when I caught myself earnestly considering using excel spreadsheets.
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>>162542047

It translates from the tabletop, before the game even started Beastmen players would roll to ambush you, if they succeeded it became a whole different game and the Beastmen went from joke faction to heavily favored.
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>>162542054
>You
>Able to read
Thanks for proving the point for me though
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>>162541487
That birth-rate
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>>162542078
>Three fucking mortars? Really?

You're like little baby.
Try sieging Tilea sometimes.
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THE ANIMATIONS CA

WHERE ARE THEY
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>>162542141
That's the Vortex' fault.

Dorfs also have a declining birthrate, and they have no Vortex to blame.

Faggot.
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>>162541704

It's a specific army type i'm trying, it basically turns Wood Elves into a High Elf playstyle.

You have to run a Melee Buffer Glade Lord with the Council Seat that buffs Eternal Guard armor. With all that you actually get a decent frontline fighting force
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I'm starting to love Warhammer now

Fuck you CA
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>>162540068
For future reference
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>>162542180
Fuck you man I lost 1800 gobbos to those god damn mortars
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>>162542313

>Expendable
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>>162541985
>GSG require skill
Go to /gsg on here and look how easy it, fucking easier than TW because you just need to get people into battle in GSGs
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no wonder she rides sidesaddle
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>>162542138
Are you intentionally being retarded or were you not following along in the conversation?
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>>162542194
They've noticed and released info saying they're going to figure out why they fail to trigger and release a fix in the next patch.
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>>162542194
They said they broke something and are looking to fix it
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>>162542194
You want animations? Too bad! HERE DLC FUCK YOU
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>>162542337
goblin lives matter

>>162542353
looks painful/enjoyable
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>>162542194
fucking look like a sparrow
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>>162542356
I want you to go read my first post, then read what you said in reply

If you're still so fucking retarded here is a hint; Skill =/= Smart

No more replies for you, you've obviously never even heard of GSG/4X games before.
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>>162542047
Because it fits their theme, happened on the tabletop, and otherwise they'll all die by the time they get to your lines
>>162542078
>mortars kill mas light infantry
who would have guessed
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>>162542337
When you're playing Skarsnik gobbos is all you have I don't have the fucking time of day to piss out 1800 gobbos then just retrain them I'm getting raided by a bunch of stunties right now because I have fuck all to use against them right now. Fuck those god damn mortars and triple fuck Karl Franz.
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>>162541307
>empire getting harder
>meanwhile CA still refuses to fix Chaos

Reeee
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>>162542194
I like his little bird walk
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>>162542473
Ah I get it, you're intentionally being a retard
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>>162542047
Their entire tabletop gimmick was designed around a rule called Beastmen Ambush that involved them coming in to play on a random table edge to surround your opponent.
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>>162542054
>>162542351
>Smart people play GSG/4X
>Proceeds to bitch about skill
Off yourselves
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>>162542661
Why would smart people find painting a map entertaining
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>>162542718
You'll never know because you're not smart
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>tfw too intelligent for GSG/4X
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>>162542763
I played eu4 off and on until I realised imperalism casus beli turns on map painter.
completed ck2 and just too bored to replay
And I'm doing fucking biochem at uni so don't talk to me about 'smart'
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>>162542718
>>162542763
Savaged
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>>162542861
>i do a kiddies degree so im smrt
Pfthahha. Kill yourself.
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>>162542861
Look at you faggot. You real ol smartz.
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>>162542975

There's no need to be jealous.
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>>162542861
>I totally played these games I never played guys!
>Im smart because I study the easiest science there is!
>I cant read but that doesnt mean im retarded!
I lost my sides
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>>162540068
>>162542272
k, if they know what they're talking about who gives a fuck.
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>>162542861
>Biochem
>Smart
I study literal rocket science, I win faggot. Now go back to school and stop shitting up the thread with your idiocy.
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>>162541307
Humanity will endure.


Fortify Helmgart.
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>>162542763
>>162542718
Someone call the elector counts cos this anon just got raped
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fuck it ain't giving the (You)'s to the autists that want it, just remember the documentary you starred in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTU8WbTbZMI
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>>162543143

You can stop samefagging now
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>>162543150
>wahh stop making fun of me because i cant read!
You're the one with autism here kid, cant even admit you made a mistake so you have to throw a tantrum and try to save face.

Back to >>>/r/eddit you go autismo
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>>162543114
>Rocket science
>Hard
>>
Anons please you're all embarrassing yourselves.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0tOb_bFj70


STREAM WHEN /twg/
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>>162543198
>poster count went up
"Smart"
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>>162543114
>Tfw stupid as hell and can't even understand pre-calc
>degree is Petroleum Engineering
Next semester is win all the hard classes start ;~;
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>>162543280
Scott Manley pls go.
>>
Diary remember that chaos dwarf is the most patrician race.
>>
Heres how to play welves

>8(eight) glade riders
>deepwood scouts
>Hawk riders
>Glade lord on dragon

Focus all the mobile units on their cavalry
Proceed to bully them like Attila in a roman bath house as you just run away like the faggot elf you are
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>>162543242

You legitimately sound butthurt this anon is making a future for himself while you sit on your ass all day.

It really looks pathetic
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>>162531781
Turn 360 degrees and walk away.
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>>162543307
>Doing shit you cant understand
This will end well

>>162543280
>Rocket Science
>Easy
>>>/o/ut
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>>162543369
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>>162543387
Classical Physics isn't that hard brainlet
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>>162542272
Update
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>>162542078
>multiplayer vs vampire counts
>flame cannon on zombies
>232 kills
mfw
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>>162543481
>classical physics
>astronautical engineering
No, really, >>>/o/ut
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>>162543461
Don't forget they were originally canned to stop anti-semitism lawsuits, so they probably won't even look like FW chaos dwarfs, and then a 'player' will mod them in like the nazi flag in HoI4
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Is this real life right now

I've had one test where the dude on the chaos dragon couldn't even hurt the dude on the forest dragon

CA pls unfuck Chaos' shit
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>Khazrak is a manlet
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>>162543594
>Don't forget they were originally canned to stop anti-semitism lawsuits, so they probably won't even look like FW chaos dwarfs
Got any citation not pulled out of your ass for that, anon?
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>>162543624

The beastman on his right is a big guy
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>>162543542
>Doubtfire
I had the same though, anon.
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>>162543542
Stay classy, Sun.
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>>162543572
Rocket Science is based on newtonian physics, stop posting any time you special snowflake.
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>>162543594
I was only shitposting. I barely know warhammer lore, is this true?
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>>162543542
>>162543737

God British print culture is such utter shit.

I swear Britain has the highest tolerance for rags in all of the developed world
>>
Well guys turns out the glade lord on top of the forest dragon might be the strongest lord there is

Weird because the forest dragon sucks dick as a unit
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>>162543825
Dude, you got the same shit in pretty much any country, many owned by the same publisher.
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>>162543743
>based
I love this goalpost move, nice try moron. No more replies for you.
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>>162543286
>Some historian turns up again for the show
>he did a sex change
>people start shouting about SJW infiltration in the youtube comments for no reason

It's like seeing the fucking "patriarchy" everywhere.
>>
>>162543743
It is also based on a metric fuckton more than that and is sure as fucking hell more complicated than bio.

Please fucking off yourself shitposter.
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>>162543948

Yeah, it's pretty silly, it's the same fucking dude, what should they stop him from coming again because he's a tranny now?
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>>162543920
>>162543979
t. College Freshmen
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>>162544012
>what should they stop him from coming again because he's a tranny now?
Welcome to /pol/ logic
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>>162543613
Elves got the best dragons mate

Forest dragon is the best dragon currently in the game
Until High Elves come with sun,moon and star Dragons, that fuck shit up in 3 slaps
>>
>Brits in the thread
>Immediate off topic and shitposting

Every time
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>>162544012
>what should they stop him from coming again because he's a tranny now?
because the BBC shouldn't hire mentally ill people as hosts? (I know t's already full of them but still)
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>>162543379
also reminder
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>>162544092
>DEUS VULT XD


You didn't need to bring up them to be honest.
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>>162543979
Hes a moron, just ignore him and he'll crawl back to his lib art degree.
>>
>want to play as ERE in Attila
>don't want to play as a large empire nor raze all my territory turn 1

does anyone know of any mods where you play as a smaller ERE faction like Judea? I want the ERE roster and buildings but not the fuck huge empire.
>>
>>162524731

roll
>>
Gib next campaign
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>>162544141
Wood Elves are dirty
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>>162544154
You have to bring them up so the lurking /pol/tards remember they are the minority here. They just cause an extraordinary amount of the shitposting.
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>>162543103
>>162543737
>>162543825
Jewish Canadian Transsexuals detected
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Can one party too hard?
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>>162543884
Glade lords seem pretty great. Fun unit to use, getting a spammable non-spell ability or fighter melee attack buffer. Always contributing with a bow outside combat.

Only the lords can ride the dragons though right? And heroes get the hawk that makes their melee suffer?
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>>162544113
And yet they will also be spider food.
>>
>>162544012
>>162544092
because trannies are mentally ill and should not be promoted in anyway whatsoever
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>>162544267

Spellsingers can ride Horses, Unicorns, then an Eagle, waystalkers and branchwraiths have no mounts
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>>162544267

Only spellsingers get eagles among heroes and it kills their melee completely but they go at sanic speed
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>>162544267
https://youtu.be/7TyipwIKVbQ?t=62

I found this quite amusing desu
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>>162544283
this unironically. I'm not even being edgy here. it'd be like the BBC hiring an anorexic person as their host. It's not good for the person and not good for the audicence
>>
>>162543613
>mutant cripple with a demon in his head
>vs intelligent predator with his wits about him
>>
WHAT is the optimal M2 playing experience? Reinstalling and wondering because I am watching Darkfireslide's Sicily series and it's got me jonesing for some middle age conquering. Only ever played vanilla.
>>
>>162544386
Stainless Steel
>>
>>162544386

>WHAT is the optimal M2 playing experience?

Unistalling
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>>162544371
You're unironically retarded.
>>
>Tomb King chariot spam

God I hope this is possible
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>>162544238
We're watching.
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>>162539789
ehehehehe
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>>162539789
Why is Chaos so smug?
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>>162544501
this desu
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>>162543979
Not him but Biochem/Organic Chem can be just as complex, if not more than Aerospace. Biochem is what Doctors and those in the medical field who make far more than Aerospace Engineers need to know to do their job. Its a different format of logic though so often the layman may dismiss it until they realize how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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>>162544501
how is it any different? They're both mental disorders and should not be promoted
>>
>>162543825
It's the working class papers that are like that, the rest still denounce people but use less uncouth terms
>>162543794
yep
t. 10 year veteran of both games
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>>162544627

Path of Exile is getting out of hand.
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>>162539789
>>
>>162544627
>Not him
Nice try, see >>162543979
>>
>Get to turn 50
>bored and start again
What is wrong with me
>>
>>162543594
>so they probably won't even look like FW chaos dwarfs

Good, because Infernal Guard are probably the worst looking models in the entire WHFB franchise even counting 1st edition because they look taken straight out of 40k. Besides, FW CD's aren't even the original CD's, that was way back in the early 90s.
>>
>>162544501
>We should give people a public figure to look up to so they can see how grand they'll be once they've chopped their dicks off
or
>Give them therapy help from the beginning and tell them that assuming picking flowers and liking that is actual very sexist and misogynistic.
>>
>Wild riders cost as much as reiksguard

who did this
>>
>>162544283
>>162544371

You might have a point, but I was just saying that the "SJW" shouting was pretty silly.
>>
>>162544761
Nothing. Most TW games go to shit after the early game because there is no challenge and CA cant figure out how to make the mid or late game fun so they have to do a
>OH NOES, ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS
To recapture the challenge of the early game by reducing everything you have to rubble.
>>
>>162544704
Fine by me if you want to be vitriolic and dense. Complex organic chemistry baffles my Aerospace friends just as much as their math baffles me.
>>162544679
lel
>>
How're they going to make Witch Elves good?

Aren't they DE's signature unit?

Slayers didn't translate well to TW, mainly because the A.I isn't retarded and will focus all its missiles on the unarmored.
>>
>>162544536
>am I really oppressed
>>162544627
mein bruder
>>
>>162544850
>"SJW" shouting was pretty silly.
oh yeah totally agreed there. I think I saw the comment. It's just retarded to start that shit in the youtube comments.
The fact that the BBC is promoting this is because of a societal problem not because no one's complaining in the fucking youtube comments
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>>162544874

No anon stop, unarmored units deserve to be killed by ranged units. If you don't want this fate to befall them, protect them appropriately.

Slayers are great, the struggle is getting them into combat with something to slay, once you've gotten to that point congratulations, you've won.
>>
>>162544843

It was me
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>>162544874
>because the A.I isn't retarded and will focus all its missiles on the unarmored.
so how did they survive in tabletop? Wouldn't the other player do the same there?
t. never play tt
>>
Has anyone tried Crooked moon legendary with lelfs in yet?
>>
>>162545020
>so how did they survive in tabletop?
The people playing the TB are smarter than the people who play TW and know how to tactics
>>
>>162544850
Yeah, I agree too, and besides, I'm hoping these two will still be entertaining. Juts got to ignore the voice.
>>
>>162544874
Like Wardancers with poison frenzy?
Maybe some limited regen as alog as they are in combat?

And the Cold one Knights are probably the iconic unit for the DEs.
>>
My empire armies are getting mulched vs chaos, I'm barely winning 4 v 2 stack battles.

My standard army comp is:

1 general
4 demigryphs (halberds)
4 handgunners
2 cannons
9 free company/swordsmen

Any ideas on how I should change this? It seems like Chaos always mulches my anvil before I can hammer
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>>162544843
>Vanguard
>Fast as fuck
>Frenzy
>20% Physical resistance
>Decent armor

Anon it's fine.
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>>162544861
Oh good i was worried
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>>162545056
>implying
Tabletop has dice rolls factored in, tactics only go so far
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>>162544789
I'm sorry, apart from the sleekness how is it 40k
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>>162545051
Treetler help you with the traitors dawis from karak norn, he is a good friend
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>>162545105
Get some heroes to buff your frontline or use a light wizard to stop their charges.
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>>162545140
If you played the TB you wouldn't even pretend to compare the 'tactics' of TW to the tactics of TB.
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>9 free company/swordsmen
Problem detected

You need halberdiers and/or greatswords for chaos
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>>162544874
Will they look lewd?
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>>162544679
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>>162545020
Very few armies in warhammer have the capability to actually wipe out a unit through shooting, especially a unit with decent toughness that won't run away.
Slayers are a tarpitunit first an foremost.
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Is there any reason as the Wood Elves in the grand campaign to not immediately go north and conquer all of norsca?

Seems like easy to hold land in an area that no one wants, that will also reduce the strength of the lategame chaos invasion by 80%.
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>>162544850
the BBC is well known for being a SJW cancer shithole

they're completely justified in shouting SJW
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>>162544843
>not playing as the LL that reduces upkeep
You people will always find one unit to whine about that's discounted by someone else
>>162544874
>Run them up the sides
>second assault
>get dragon to fuck archers
>what we do in the TT
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>>162545105

>9 free company/swordsmen

holy hell WHY?? swap all of them for greatswords and maybe 2 halberdiers and your armies will be able to hold the line.
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>>162545105
>9 free company/swordsmen
replace with Greaswords, halberds if you're short on cash.
Get Honest Steel for your general.
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>>162545105
>9 free company/swordsmen
exchange for haldberdiers and greatswords ffs. you're fighting monstorus and armored units.
you can keep some free company if you feel like it
also where the fuck are your agents and wizards?
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>>162544874
Witch Elves are similar to normal Welf War Dancers, except delaing more damage (frenzy) and with poison blades.

War dancers seem to go well desu. Witches will have trouble with armour, and won't have an equivalent "asrai spear" AP-damage varient like War Dancers. But that's what Har Ganeth Executioners & Black Guard are for.

Corsairs with Sea Dragon Cloaks can act as high-armour (for elves) missile screens.
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>>162545232
>Is there any reason as the Wood Elves in the grand campaign to not immediately go north and conquer all of norsca?
Nope, and it is legitimately the best tactic for Welfs because you get diplomatic immunity from all other factions

The more you beat the shit out of chaos the more everyone else likes you, you can just rampage through the north and never have to worry about anyone attacking your home apart from beasts
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>>162545213
>>162545294
Halberdier stats look bad, and although greatswords look great, they seem very offensive. do they hold up against Chosen/Chaos warriors?

>>162545182
thanks to Volkmar + middenland buffs, I can recruit a lvl 20 warrior priest every turn. Are they good if combat specced? I've always gone the blue route with my heroes in general.
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>>162545056

The tabletop in 8th edition just revolved around level 4 (highest level) wizards throwing six dice at their "doom" spell to win the game in a turn. If you rolled two 6's, there was no chance to dispel it and it would do enough damage to win the game.

Other than that there were really no tactics.
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>Never bought Grim and Grave
>Confederate with Hochland
>A general had 4 Free Company and 5 Flagellants in his army and now I can use them
Cheating the system.
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>>162545353
>Are they good if combat specced?
>I've always gone the blue route with my heroes in general.
Is TWW on a fucking sale or something?
holy shit get your level 20 warrior priests in the army dude. fuck me how have you survived this long?
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>>162545353

> they seem very offensive. do they hold up against Chosen/Chaos warriors?


look at the greatswords stats they have 100 armor and better leadership while swordsmen I think have 30-40 armor.

greatswords are the only general purpose not shit infantry the Empire gets.
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The fuck? Fuck off Durthu it's turn 2
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>>162545398
>playing with doom spells
Lol

Thats like saying TWW is shit because it has no challenge on very easy
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>>162544874
Witch elves, being elves, will be fast moving. Not a big problem to get them into combat like slow stunty slayers. Blood Cauldron (magic chariot) will also give them an AoE ward save against damage.
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>>162545353
Both halbediers and greatswords are great choices against WoC.
Warrior priests have nice buffs, especially Shield of Faith.
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>it's an archie and siggyboy spawn on top of each other and get stuck in the wastes episode
>it's a rerun
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Elder Scrolls TW WHEN

I want to conquer the Empire as the Aldmeri Dominion, put the humans under my spiked heel
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>>162545353
>do they hold up against Chosen/Chaos warriors?
They hold against normal warriors.
Nothing in your army will stand out in a 1on1 with Chosen, that's why you shoot them up before they reach you and flank them once they'e engaged.
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>>162545489
Wood'n it be nice if he leaf you alone, watch out his bark is as bad as his bite and your in for a season of pain.

>>162545567
Hopefully fucking never, thats a fucking awful idea
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>>162545323
Honest steel only boosts state troops, not greatwords.

>>162545343
I usually have all of my wizards boosting econ, and my witch hunters are on dedicated block army duty to prevent yakety saks shenanigans. I will start adding my lvl 20 priests.

>>162545456
i have really good gunpowder micro, and I'm only playing on VH.

>>162545530
>>162545481
The consensus seems to be to add combat specced warrior priests to my stacks and to replace all my infantry with Greatswords (which I can afford, if barely).

Got it, thanks.
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>>162545353

Halberdiers have more health, and more melee defense than swordsmen, couple that with their AP damage and they actually stand better toe to toe with Chaos Warriors than Swordsmen do.

Swordsmen have shields, but that does not do shit against chaos which is a nearly rangeless army.
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>>162544973
>Great
>Expensive af
>Only good at killing monsters because they've no AP damage.
>Die faster than elves to gobbo archers
>Slow af
>Requires a dedicated building chain

I wanted them to be good. I really did.
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>>162545398
There are maybe two spells that could do that and they only work if your opponent play certain, low I, armies and has sunk way too mayn points in a deathstar unit.

Stop talking out of your ass.
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>>162545608

Why are warhammer fans so fucking autistic?
They seem to hate all other fantasy series, except their own garbage.

Warcraft and tes total war would be way more awesome.
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>>162545609
and what are your empire captains doing?
please anon put some captains and bright or light wizards in your armies. And yeah the warrior priests kick ass and buff your dudes
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>>162545650
All of that is true, but throwing Ungrim Ironfist + 19 slayers at a Chaos stack (with a balanced normal stack in reserve) is still fun as fuck.
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>>162545608
sounds more fun than borehammer

>>162545702
pure autism
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>>162545702
I dont give a flying fuck about warhammer I care about TW and a TES TW is a fucking awful idea, there is no troop diversity, boring as shit factions and less choice in monsters/large than TWW meaning its LITERALLY just a gimped version of a game we already have.

Take your idiotic fanboy shit somewhere else. Just because it can exist doesn't mean it should, just like your life.
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>>162545716
I find empire captains to be really disappointing. No way to boost their recruitment levels like with wizards/witch hunters/warrior priests, and they don't hit as hard as any of the above.
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>>162545702
>>162545802

Fucking destroyed
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>>162545686
you forgot your vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxBKgOyMzSc
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>>162545702
>Warcraft and tes total war would be way more awesome.
>Both are clones of Warhammer but less in everything
Yeah no. The only type of fantasy that will work that isnt just Warhammer reskinned is something like Age of Mythology using a combination of Greek/Egyptian/Norse soldiers and mythological units because it offers the chance of doing something different.
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>>162544850
>>162544946

Shouting "SJW!" might not be all that far off in this instance considering that this is the BBC we're dealing with, an organization that will literally fire senior employees who are performing their jobs perfectly well just to replace them with "More diverse" people.
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>>162545702
Greatly disagree and I'm a fan of all 3 settings. If Bethesda got any kind of creative say-so in the world and such in the game, it'd be fucking terrible, shit the only interesting thing TES even has to it's name anymore is ESO after it finally got good like 2-3 giant facelifts in and that's only after Beth/Zenimax stepped the fuck back and let people do anything good.
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As someone who doesn't know much about WH lore, will the High Elves have more focus on melee?
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>>162545948
Yes, that and the best dragons in the game.
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>>162545948

They have swordmasters, white lions and shiet
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>>162545919
It's literally the same person.
All they have done is decide that having adick is not essential for talking about strategy.

Take off your tinfoil hat.
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>>162545157
Word of advice, whenever someone says "it looks 40k!" they are usually just a retard.

Vast majority of the time that phrase is meaningless and they can't even describe how it looks "40k" at all. To say it looks 40k would mean it would have to have some sci-fi elements to it, and the infernal guard don't really look out of place in the fantasy setting.

>>162545232
The only thing you have to worry about is trespassing since it is unlikely that you'll be able to secure military access that early. Which isn't really anything at all, so there's no reason not to head north.

>>162545702
TES Total War would be fucking retarded, and so would Warcraft.

The former because it would be bland as hell and not much to actually work with. And the latter because the company can make their own damn RTS games.
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>>162546052
>And the latter because the company can make their own damn RTS games.
total war is a TBS/RTT game
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>>162546018
White Elves look pimp as fuck
But will CA put in fire breathing dragons in the game?
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>>162545948

They have some garbage citizen spearmen that are for holding the line, then they have incredible elite melee units that are designed to lawnmower through enemies.
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>>162545838
I like that they boost the morale and charge defence of my main line of 8usually halberds9 and they are pretty good air support for my Generals once thye have their pegasi

>>162545919
wel I know the BBC is fucked but shouting in the comments won't help. As I said before this is a societal problme. Fortunately we're moving away from this crazy shit day by day
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>>162545948
Whenever High/Dark Elves come they're also guaranteed going to have some serious navy to them as well, they're the big sailers of the world.
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>>162546141
We have poison breathing dragons right now, why wouldn't we get fire?
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Odd as it sounds, how viable is a stack of 19 combat specced heroes and a general as a support stack in TWW?
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>>162545702
>raid group elite 25 man squad
>costs like an entire army
>created by merging 25 different heroes
>kills fucking everything
I want that
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>>162546234
Pretty sure there's a hard cap on heroes.
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>>162546234
probably OP
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>>162545259
But that was probably not the reasoning for hiring that historian again.
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>>162546208

Except naval battles were scrapped, since there isn't enough to work with from Dreadfleet, and GW won't let them design stuff from scratch.

I imagine even letting CA create siege equipment for the factions set off some autistic screeching at GW headquarters
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>>162546327
But of course it was anon because abloo bloo bloo boogeyman
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>>162545908
An age of mythology type Total War sounds neat. And I agree, Warhammer pretty much already covers everything those series do (especially Warcraft since it borrowed heavily from Warhammer to begin with, though it is mostly its own thing now).

Though a mythological one would probably need a lot of their own made up shit. But I suppose that's better than being limited by a license in a way.

>>162546112
The point was that Warcraft already has its own strategy game, so there's no real point.

Plus there's also the fact that if Warcraft did want to make a Total War style game, Creative Assembly wouldn't be the ones doing it because Blizzard already happens to be a video game company. While collaborations aren't completely out of the picture, it'd be highly retarded for them not to do it in-house.
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>>162546356
>I imagine even letting CA create siege equipment for the factions set off some autistic screeching at GW headquarters
Seriously that company sounds insane from all the shit I've heard about them from Warhammer fans
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>>162546454
They not insane, they are greedy, the majority of the company's investors are hedge funds.
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>>162546051
All he did was horrifically mutilate himself in an irreversible act of gross self-harm, I agree anon. Behind every great understander of strategy, there has been a Jewish Canadian Transsexual.

What made him good on Line of Fire and the other old battle docos was his aggressive, direct, authoritative, dare I say it, masculine way of speaking. And he's lost that in becoming a high-pitched effete Mrs Gunfire.
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>>162546208
CA has already stated in an interview that they can't do anything naval battle wise in Total War: Warhammer.

Same interview that they said they weren't interested in the Age of Sigmar license too in fact. And yet you faggots still keep bringing both up.
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>>162546497
Oh, shut up and get laid anon.
It might help your outlook on life.
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>>162546380
Kek. It's the youtube comments after all I guess.
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>>162546532
>CA has already stated in an interview that they can't do anything naval battle wise in Total War: Warhammer.
not him but do you have a link to it? this saddens me greatly
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>>162546454
It's actually not that bad lately, about a year ago there was some major changes in management, namely a new CEO. So things have gotten less retarded over there. A friend of mine that works there (not a major position), says its a whole lot less insane than it used to be.

Plus CA and GW have a pretty close partnership, the whole reason that the game even exists is that they had friends who worked in GW.
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>>162546454

They've gotten better since they swapped out their literal pants on head retarded CEO for some one who actually cares.

Still they have a long way to go before i'd consider GW to be good again.
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>>162546595
>get laid anon.


BY SIGMAR NO


reeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>162546356
>Dreadfleet
Implying there wasn't a comprehensive Warhammer naval game prior to that with full navies called Man O'War.
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>>162546356
Autism the company.
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Beginning of the end times patch when?
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>>162546454
There were supplements for Warhammer to do seige battles, nothing outside the lore.
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>>162546496
well yeah I cna see that considering the prices of models and paint

>>162546626
>>162546672
well that's good to hear. You fans deserve better
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>>162546776
Not nearly as autistic as the fanbase especially judging by these threads.
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>>162546454
There were supplements for Warhammer to do seige battles, nothing outside the lore.
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You told me the chaos campaign was shit, but I'm actually having fun


should I buy beastmemes then?
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>>162546712
That has a game in development, maybe that's why they can't do anything with it.
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>>162546712

>That crab
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>>162546806

Yes, but no officially licensed $70 battering ram kits were ever released so...
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>>162546625
>http://www.gram.pl/artykul/2016/12/08/co-na-froncie-wojny-totalnej-nasz-zwiad-w-siedzibie-creative-assembly.shtml

It's in Polish, but the gist is that they aren't doing naval battles because there is too little variation in the existing ships, and they don't have the wiggle room to make them. Not because another company has the license as people have speculated.

Though they did say that you might see something like the Black Arc of Naggaroth landed in a battle map.

>>162546785
>everyone jokes about Nagash because of the Mannfred lines
>even the people who don't know a thing about Warhammer just because they think its funny
>End Times DLC comes
>Nagash can take on entire armies by himself

As much as I dislike the End Times writing, I would actually love to see this.
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>>162546454
GW are only successful in spite of the talent they have/have had. They consistently make terrible decisions, have real shitty business practices, are huge unlikeable cunts in an actual personal sense in the business as well as just as the company.

Like it's incredible they stay afloat as well as they have for a while, but more and more they've been on a bad trend. Shitting on their customers and pulling Age of Smegmar out of their ass has failed miserably. The chinks sell surprisingly good forgeries of their minis at a fraction of the price, while actually keeping about the same build quality as them even often enough. 3D printers coming about as quickly as they are has/is undoubtedly lighting fires under their asses real hard. Their competition keeps on getting better and more well liked. At some point they're gonna have to do some big decisions one way or another.
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>>162545567
>>162545608
>this much autistic screeching
TES mod for M2 when
fuck I love triggering you manbabies
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Skarsnik campaign is bullshit man.
>Ironpick just shits out a full stack of dorf warriors and refuses to leave his walled settlements
>Ironhammer decides fuck it and makes a b-line right for you
>All you get are gobbos
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>>162546842
Do you want to play a faction that literally cant lose, but has no hellcannons and weaker lategame units?

Do you want to play as the mutated backup dancers to Archeon?

If so you'd like beastmen
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>WELFS turn 104
>Bored before even getting the OAK to level 4
Well, time to start over again.
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>>162546712
>that crab
This so doesnt fit the warhammer aesthetic
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>>162546929
More Gobbos
You need to recruit more Gobbos
MORE
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>>162546882
They could use what variation they have, maybe slap basic boats to everyone who doesn't have them and make it auto resolvable only.
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>>162546882
They don't need to do End Times to have a nagash event. Just like they don't need to do End Times to have chaos invasions.
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>>162546882
well dman sad to hear that. . Was kinda hoping for Shogun 2 + FOTS style naval battles due to the differences in tech between the races. could've been fun to see dwarfen ironclads vs norscan longships
oh well
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>>162546891
Proving you're a moron is entertainment. The fact you're gotten so upset just makes it even more enjoyable. Stay stupid anon, we like making fun of idiots like you around here.
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>>162546887
Despite how much they misstep on PR, the models they produce are astounding and unparalleled in quality which is what keeps them alive.

I can't wait to see stuff like this brought to life in game.
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>>162546929
Tunnel towards Helmgart (or whatever the Empire city between the two mountains is named) and you will get the Dwarf to move towards your city. Smack his shit in after beating the Empire rebels by using an ambush or just straight up attacking him.
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What's your strategy?
Here's mine.

Have a bigger army than the enemy.

Works every time.
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>>162546595
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=55f_1364922002
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>>162546881
Actually
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>>162547090
>That being in game
>We didnt even get Jabbers
Yeah sorry anon, thats too expensive, it would be more than 2.5 Charlemagne.
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>>162546887
>At some point they're gonna have to do some big decisions one way or another.
why not go digital like MGTG did with their card game?
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>>162547150

I'm shocked they didn't make every battering ram for all factions look this piece of shit because it's all they had
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>>162546891
>Most of the comments are saying "Nah, there's not enough variation" - "It'd just be bland" - "Bethesda can't make their shit interesting anymore"
>Heh heh ecks dee triggered amirite

C'mon now
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>>162547113
>t. Soviet Union
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>>162546595
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>>162546845
Welp, Wood Elf ambushes are pretty much exactly what I envisioned them to be.
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>>162539789
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>>162547228

TES fans are some of the strangest people I've ever encountered online. The Elder Scrolls world is just so unbelievably boring and uninteresting, there's nothing unique about it, nothing makes it special, nothing distinguishes it from any other fantasy.

It's utterly bland, 100% bland.
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>>162547140
>Surgery involves cutting people open and moving shit around
Who woulda thunk
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>>162547150
>>162547187
I give CA props for making the siege engines actually look different and cool. Too bad about sieges being shit though
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>>162547140
What a waste of money. I guess surgeons are making a buck though.
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>>162547062
Well I imagine most people's image of Nagash these days is of his End Times version after he munched on the death god.

Since, silly hat or not, I think most people can agree it is better inspiration than the original Nagash model.

While they don't need an End Times event, I don't know really know how they would implement Nagash even with the "we just shove in what's cool rather than rely on timelines" attitude.

>>162547228
Seriously though, Bethesda can't even depict a good war in their games. You just see a bunch of guys chopping away at each other occasionally. When I think TES, I don't really imagine a Total War style thing at all.
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>>162547343
>The Elder Scrolls world is just so unbelievably boring and uninteresting, there's nothing unique about it, nothing makes it special, nothing distinguishes it from any other fantasy.

The lore is pretty unique, though. The cosmology is batshit crazy.
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>>162547086
I'm not the one screeching at the idea of a TW set in a different fantasy setting.

>>162545802
>no troop diversity
Kidding? Also why is this an argument when M2 exists. By your logic M2 should never have gotten past the conference table.
>boring as shit factions
Again, you're betraying your own confirmation bias. You clearly know nothing about the thing you're denigrating.
>less choice in monsters/large
TES lore has trolls, giants, fucking dragons, daedra etc. Did you never play Skyrim?
>just a gimped version of a game we already have
What if CA/Sega, seeing the success of one expensive fantasy IP, got the rights to TES IP and made a game based on it? What would you do, really?
>idiotic fanboy shit
Said person playing a fantasy Total War game. Mister Kettle, Pot called, it's wondering why you're calling it black.
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>>162547343
>It's utterly bland, 100% bland.
t. Gordon Ramsay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAluohZbM9A
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>>162546929
Raid smaller no wall settlements to build up fightiness and get a Waagh army. Use Waagh army to co-seige and storm walled & garrisoned settlements.
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>>162547335
I hate playing Welves/beastmen, but I want the red duke and toddbringer. Does playing the minicampaigns on easy still unlock them?
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>>162546887
Rountree is in charge now and they're actually doing alright. 3D printers will cost more for bulk models and we're a long way off getting them at home
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>>162547090
I've just been way too put off by the AoS models to have faith in them lately, for a while that was certainly true but when they keep on dipping in material quality, while raising the price, while also getting more "Meh" at modeling and posing, I don't know what to think anymore.

>T-posing a fig in your advert
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GATES WHEN

>tfw no Gate Battles
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>>162547343
Some of the background stuff is interesting, it's just you rarely, if ever, really encounter it in the games except lame side-quests.

I guess that's why that expansion for Oblivion was so loved. It brought some of the background lore shit, and made it part of the actual game.
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>>162546929
Is Crooked Moon fun? I was thinking about getting it.
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>>162543369
reminder.
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>>162547450
Good arguments anon, not that I want TES TW game, but still. If modding wasn't gimped for TWW we could see something.
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>>162547343
>TES fans are some of the strangest people I've ever encountered online

I was about to play devil's advocate, but then this >>162547450
anon decided to post. And I just figured that you're probably right.
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>>162547602
better than greenskins
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>>162547343
I think the attraction is that it takes typical fantasy stuff (magic, different races, mythical creatures, etc) and makes it all very boring. No really, I think people are attracted to this. The idea that you can, in the same game/story, have dragons juxtaposed with boring feudal politics. I think the TES fanbase seriously gets off on this, in an absurdist way.
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>>162547663
>LOOK MOM, I POSTED IT AGAIN.
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>>162547602
Crooked Moon is hilarious as you aren't stuck in the Badlands fighting mega wheelchair dwarf boss.
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>>162547663
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>>162546454
Make a thread on /tg and ask how bad they are and you'll get a good response
Rountree has saved them
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>>162547663
there is something terribly wrong with Americans
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>>162547663
Reminder that literally nobody except you posts that anon. Nobody thought it was funny then, and nobody thinks you're funny now.

>>162547343
I forgot where I heard it from, but I think a pretty good description of TES games and the setting is that it looks like this amazing and vast ocean at first. The world looks big and it seems like there is a lot to the setting at first glance, but when you actually take a step in, you find out the entire body of water is shallow.

It's a pretty big "quantity over quality" sort of thing if you know what I mean. There are a bunch of factions, but no real thought involved with fleshing them out. So I don't think there's actually much a Total War game could go off of without making a bunch of shit up.
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>>162545702
LoTR is the only other franchise that can work for TW and that's because the films have already filled out the designs for the units (warhammer being a tabletop game obviously did this) whereas TES or other fantasies need designers and fall into the trap of lore autists complaining about an interpretation.
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>>162547486

I'm done with GW product. Between school and work I simply don't have time to model and paint anymore.

That being said I could surely give up some video game time for it, but the game systems are just bad. 40k games take 3-4 hours and have become such an insane ruleslog that it's not even fun.

Age of Sigmar reminds me that WHFB is gone and I am still in denial.
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>Kislev leader in the diplomacy screen isn't the Ice Queen
Kislev will probably never get a faction DLC but it's sad that they don't at least have a unique leader like Bretonnia.
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Is this still bugged?

Does it remove poison from actual units?
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>>162547349
>moving shit around
Kek good euphamism for having your cock sliced in two and stuffed back inside of you to create an open wound that other men to stick their cocks into to use as an internal jizz pocket
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>>162548131
Todbringer and the Red Duke would have probably been a better comparison anon.

Considering Bretonnia, as unsupported as they were, actually have an armybook and all.
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>>162548131
It's Britain ffs. Can't they hire some Polish woman with a thicccc accent to just voice her for a few quid?
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>>162548131
Bretonnia will be a playable campaign faction soon tho
>>162548217
both of those will likely be featured in upcoming dlc
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>>162547663
Nice one, anon. Saved.
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>>162547695
>boring feudal politics
>boring
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>Empire is locked in perpetual Civil War
>Bretonnia is invaded by Estalia
>Beastmen and Vampires run Rampart in the Border Princes and Black Mountains
>Doomtide Event every turn, Kislev somehow still alive
>Orion has been fucking around and declearing war at everyone for the last 30 turns

Somehow this place is getting too crowded, I'm seriously not in favour of Adding Skaven to the current Situation, Beastmen and Chaos alone are enough to turn the map into a clusterfuck every time, now with Wood Elves running amok, it's getting even worse.

The Map needs to be at least twice the current size in the second Instalment.
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>>162548516
Franz....had a hard life
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>>162548516
>The Map needs to be at least twice the current size

the map for the Old World alone needs to be twice the current size for it to function.
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>>162548516
>Meanwhile, in the Badlands...
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Thorgrim and the max level Everpeak garrison get BARKED
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>>162548214
You're trying way too hard to make a simple ass surgery sound like some horrifying unholy travesty you massive, autismal faggoth. You literally sound like the fundies that go into laughably overwrought descriptions of guys boning to make it sound scaaary and bad. Feel free to self-immolate.
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>>162548662
The Dorfs are surprisingly well off in the Badlands, but everything north of Karaz a Karak got fucked by Vamps and Chaos.
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>>162541216
>Just transfer the swordsmen to cheaper garrison armies.
you mean to lords that afk at a city?
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>>162548680
I will literally avenge this grudge you forrest fucking shits! Thank Grugni the White Dwarf starts with irondrakes
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>>162548516
There isn't enough "civilized" land for the anti-order factions to chew on. The Dwarfs have to survive + Skaven + Orcs + Chaos,

The Empire has to survive against Norscans + Beastmen + Vampire counts + Welves + Chaos + Skaven too.

Given that the narrative of the setting is Order surviving against all odds, there needs to be a lot more order land for the anti- order factions to burn and plunder.

For comparison, The WRE and the ERE are the order factions in attila, and their territories cover most of the entire map at the game start, allowing for every faction to take them on without things getting hyper crowded.
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>>162548680
Teach me your ways
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>>162548680
>BARKED
>when the only tree in there is Durthu
Fucking shameful anon.
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>>162548957
this is actually a good explenation for the problem with the cmapaign map in Warhammer. never thought about it this way
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>>162545051
I've been playing it and got rid of the dwarfs, but that nigger treant took over the southern outpost after Karak Norn so I guess I have to attack him next.
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>>162548957

Vampire Counts are an Order Faction.

But yes the map needs to grow and I think CA sees it too, hopefully we'll get a bigger Bretonnia at the very least
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>>162524731
I have a problem.
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>>162524731
roll
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>>162549147
>Vampire Counts are an Order Faction.
I wonder who's behind this post
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>>162549164
Looks like that problem got even worse.
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>>162549038
Potential solutions for the dwarfs:
1: Make their holds incredibly hard to siege, with large high quality garrisons even in lowish level settlements
2: Increase province density

Empire solutions:
1: Increase province density
2: Jesus christ increase province density why does the empire have almost no provinces
3: Strengthen city garrisons substantially, keep smaller settlements easy to raid.

>>162549147
vampire counts are not an order faction. Only Brets+Kislev+Empire+Dawi are order. Vampire counts are in the neutral realm like the Welves.
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>>162548957
>>162549038
yep, that was the big positive about Call of Warhammer, the Empire was a massive patch of Land, and had plenty of territory. Ing Warhammer the Empire is not too small in that sense, but there's too little settlements.

That*s why I'd double the size for the Old World entirely.

a Larger Map can never hurt a Total War game.
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>>162549359
I think the number of provinces in the empire is probably okish and only needs a bit of an increase, but there should be a LOT more secondary settlements. I'm talking about every province having 2-3 secondary settlements, no exceptions, and 2-3 new provinces.

The map feels big enough, it just needs more stuff in it. Look at tabecland for example, you could easily fit two more secondary settlements there.
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>>162549359
It hurts the fucking turn times.
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Just woke up lads
N E W TH R E A D

>>162549496
>>162549496
>>162549496
>>162549496
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>>162549336
>1: Make their holds incredibly hard to siege
I still wan't them to rework Karack sieges. make them an entirely new battle map type. Like several stages of siege where you take each level seperately or something
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What do when the abyss gazes back at you?
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>>162548769
>simple ass surgery
Have you had it done yet or are you pre-op? Why so triggered?
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>>162549359
>a Larger Map can never hurt a Total War game.
True, but I think one of CA's major fears and problems is their plan with the standalones all combining to make one map.

I think it's pretty clear now that they were playing it extremely safe with the base games. From the stats, Legendary Lords, and the faction mechanics, it was all done likely because they Warhammer seemed like a major risk to them. They had a very ambitious idea for the full game, but they were afraid it would fail at the first step.

Hence they probably made the map relatively small because they weren't sure how it would work out once the whole world is implemented. Fears how the technical issues and performance likely fueled that decision. Hopefully they can expand it later on, and add more land to fix that issue. But as of right now the place will only get more crowded as more races and subfactions get included.
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>>162549336
>>162549147

We are both wrong.
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>>162535628

Shouldn't she be absorbing his soul or something?
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>>162547450
>doesnt even know his own fucking lore
PFTHHAHAAHAHAHAHHA
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>>162549597
SPAWNED
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>>162541402
I took out Karak Norn and Crooked Moon first. Now time to ally up w empire factions and cleanse the brettonian lands. Buddy up w wood elves, you can confederate at level 3 oak.
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what the hell is this thing and how do I get it in-game?
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>>162548973
Master Dwarf "Strategist" Thorgrim Grudgebearer decided to try and sandwich the forces of Argwylon, not expecting Durthu and a couple of spearmen to tie up his entire reinforcing force coming from the everpeak. Seeing this, the lazy midget kicked his four midget thronebearers into action to try and destroy the rest of my forces, completely forgetting to leave any melee units with his artillery which allowed my riders of the hunt to skewer those stunted sons-of-goblins manning the shoddy dwarf contraptions on their lances. From there it was an easy process blotting out the sky with arrows as my waywatchers dismantled any unit foolish enough to stay in the open and 1 waystalker was able to plink the "High-King" until he shat his pants and ran with the rest of his forces

>>162548908
You must be THIS tall to avenge grudges, dwarf

>>162548998
No sense in bringing magic damage vs dwarfs
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>>162549809
He fucked her into submission.
No, literally, that's what happens.
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>>162546891
Actuallz there is a TES mod for med2
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>>162550297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDHZ__kMhnM
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Now that wood elves are confirmed /notcomfy/ who will be the /comfiest/ faction? All the expansion races should be comfy desu, with the exception of Skaven.

Goodbye Old World, hello comfy world
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>>162552351
Dwarfs.
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>>162552351
Dorfs
>mfw the elf tried to fuck with me
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https://youtu.be/azOvRwrqz2M?t=6m9s

>>162552732
>>162552880
>Playing dorfs
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>>162552351
Pretty sure Tomb Kings will be pretty damn comfy. They really don't mess around with anyone other than the people who steal their shit.
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>>162553762
>Meme at people who play dwarfs
>Post video where dwarfs are best

I don't understand you.
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>>162553984
I think he was trying to convey what it feels like to play dwarfs
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>>162549578
You mean with a loading screen after each stage?
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>>162554040
It makes you a qt blushing animu trap?
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>>162547663
More like overusing_a_stale_meme.jpg
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