Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

>>162506240
hi im leswaalipan. If you feel triggered you are free to hehehe

Quick question that probably nobody can answer, does anybody know how monster models from transform work for using physical attacks? I know for magical attacks they stand still and the attack is simply displayed above their heads, but does it work the same way for a monster using something like double punch?

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>>162506660
EY YO GURL LEMME HOLLA AT YA - U WANT SUM FUCK

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when will hunters be the new warlocks?

>>162507170
When they make pets not die in one hit or randomly stop responding to commands

>>162507630
they should start by not letting pets revive in 1 game tick after killing them
and it would help if youd stop begging the devs for buffs in your le reddit clique when u dont even play anymore

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>>162506660
>swaalipan

>>162507720
why are you trying to attack azebu when you can just message him on discord lmao

>>162507720
>implying the devs listen to anyone
wtf are you going on about

>>162508059
dank maymays
>>162508258
>he doesnt know

what's the biggest problem this game has?

>>162511634
the developers

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send help

>>162511634
The fanbase, but ultimately, >>162511670 because they listened to the fanbase instead of making the game they wanted to make.

Last played this game just after it went f2p. How dead is it, and is it worth coming back to?

>>162512195
worth it

>>162512195
Extremely dead, less than 3000 players spread across 5 servers.

>>162512195
Smaller and worse community (imo) but better game with less technical issues.

>>162512195
pretty dead

rarely updates and they often make things worse

worth tryin it tho

>>162512401
>>162512352
Guess i'll give it a try but hearing its super dead is pretty sad. Not sure what i'll play though or make.

>>162512537
I would recommend for making a class you start with picking one of the 4 base archetypes, deciding what you want to do (PvE endgame or PvP or a good money grinder class), and then asking what classes in the tree you picked are viable for them. The game is mostly understood at this point. most classes are at least good for something but there are a few that are pretty bad.

>>162512935
I probably wanna be melee, so either swordsman or priest/monk? And I wanna focus on PVE primarily. Not sure beyond that.

>>162513025
If you want to be pure damage, go Swordsman, if you want to heal go Monk, but you will not be a DPS, you'll be a healer.

>>162513025
doppel 3 or foot goon2 is good

>>162513418
My fps is slightly better than it was on release and partying doesn't outright break the game anymore so it's a start.

>>162513025
Go for the cookie cut goon2 build. Pelt>hop3>doppel>goon2, it works really well without huge funding. Other options for a melee damager can be a paladinquisitor, but this option means you'll be primarily a healer until you actually get to rank8 and become inquisitor. There's also doppel, fencer or murm depending on how you'd like your sword to turn out but these ones require a lot more funding compared to goon2

how much +atka lv 15 squire buff gives to a 315 one handed weapon? and a two handed one?

Can fencer 3 really synergize with the recent barb buffs? Got a pelt>barb3 ready for doppel but I changed my mind and I want the fencer costume now.

>>162514734
Doppel is a dead class now. Go Fencer, Anon.

>>162514734

barb dps skills are basically useless on fencer 3, you have a small downtime of ~9 seconds where you can use stun + cleave or pouncing for Cloth mos (resist pierce). BUT WARCRY and Frenzy + glass moles does nice for oyur epee garde bonus. potentially the highest dps fencer build with party support from krivis. barbs stun also helps deal with mobs when epee is down and you have to wait for it.

It's okay, but I rank it beneath S3 (just pain barrier and spam composee, restrain stun lock when needed) and slightly above Hoplite 2 (spear lunge switch meme). Highlander is literally dead. IMC just send a big fuck you to the most popular ktos fencer build, no wonder everyone kited before r8 or rerolled to s3

>>162513959
This goon2 build is the best for all around pve, and still can kill people on pvp.

It's SO cheap to fund, due to the huge amount of crit that you get from finestra, plus spearlunge amplifying your damage in the beginning while still being relevant later on since it stacks with serpentine for high numbers on detrhone.

And you're not only locked to 2h spears, since everything you have also works with 1h spears, so even if you need to take a more defensive position depending on what you're doing, everything will still work.

Last but not least, pretty good 145 dungeon farming with Spear Throw and Swash, and when you're geared enough, easy full290.

>>162515302
What's the % boost from spear lunge is it a 50% increase? Because that pretty much takes away cloth penalty on pierce

>>162515494
70% increase, on 2oh and 6s duration.

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Consider Sapper Falconer (low dmg multihits)
315 BOW
520 - 781
+ 148 MIN
+ 246 MAX
ACC 8
CRIT RATE 32

or

XBOW
502 - 555
+102 MIN
+211 MAX
+16 str
+28 dex

TRANS LV = 3 +60%, +6 anvil
Bow:
650 (average)+77(anvil) +130 (squire) +60% (shards) = 1371
1371 + 197 (avg) bonus
= 1568 atk + 32 Critical rate (40 cr on SS)
Xbow:
530 (avg)+77(anv)+130(sq) +60% (tr) = 1179
1179+156(avg) bonus = 1335 + str
= 1351 ATK +28 CR (on SS)
{mana-mana} = +278 lgt dmg, 43CR + red gem lv 6 = +145 atk
= 1496 ATK
Or {shield} +290 atk and def (well, lad)
PROS: def reduction Xbow atrib? how it works?
CONS: poor man Light Goritos for flying shit

>>162515494
>>162515959
Also, the penalty from pierce on cloth is just 25%, not 50%

>>162515991
>insert dragoon meme pasta

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>>162506240
>swaaz thinks he's hot shit
>all he did was telepathy bug everyone on the enemy team out in gbl

>>162515959
Oh wow, that's a really nice boost in damage.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449ff.354555.3545.1f253f7a.153555.152a3a55

How retarded is this?

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>>162515991
>>162516078
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You're a retard anon.

Falconer don't level up at all because they lose critical %. As soon as they have Falconer C3 unlocked they max out the only skill that matters with the 5 skill points saved and then start farming and dumping money into the attributes.

Any level 280 Falconer is pathetic damage.

They don't have consistent damage just OP burst. Falconer is a weak fucking class once they have used their skill they literally sit there and hit Barrage and AFK.

>>162515959
70% increase, no wonder hop3goon2's need close to no funding with that much of a damage increase with lunge then serp.

>full con
>plate and shield
>dead in two dethrones from a screen away
EXPLAIN THIS SHIT

>>162517970
Well you see, it's meant to be used on bosses so we have to make it ridiculously OP so it's strong enough to hurt the bosses.

A multiplier against XL/L targets would just be ridiculous.

>>162512195

Doesn't worth coming back dude, there is a lot of games that worths your time, and yeah its diying sloooowlyy but it goes at that path

It'll be dieing a lot faster when Ohayou disbands into CNL tomorrow

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>>162520979

>>162520979
explain

>>162521197
is ded

>>162520979
When will all of tosg be united under one new guild that will be called Swaauztics?

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>>162520979

>>162521220
So clover is back?

>>162521197
murbish is moving onto her next target

>>162521409
nah

>>162521409
Clover never left, they just find new hosts every few months.

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>>162520979
>>162522250
>>162521473
CnL's are gonna be culturallyenriched

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>>162523178

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=760

come on IMC....

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>>162523346
That's it. I'm breaking the sports cars.

migo soon?

>>162523346
>cry seal

>>162523745
hehehe

>>162523178

unless is sarcasm is call it bullshit

>>162523346
So the big update is gonna be the end of December then?

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>>162524183
on 24th ofcourse!

I cant wait for SantaKim

>>162524269
10 talt says it's nothing

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>>162524503
can you fuck chicks in that game?

>>162524565
Yes

t. forestcraft main

>>162524565

if you mean guys with a skirt then, yes you can fuck them

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>>162524651
insert micro benis in vagina (pref female(no dick)) ?

So why can't /tosg/ have United guilds?

>>162525301
Egos. /vg/ guilds always fight hardest amongst themselves.

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>>162524942
meh

nvm that game

>>162525357
All ego players quit or are not in a tosg guild

If Ohayou and CnL are cool with each other enough to merge, then the only thing stopping a united /tosg/ would be FP and guild member limits.

>>162525509

Delicious Succubus

TOS Hentai from Maggi when?

>>162525516
>guild member limits
Thanks MrKim

So HOW long did it take them to address the telpath issue?

>>162525928
Is this the same "getting telepathed locks you in place" or is this a different bug? The wording makes me think this is a different bug where ending your own telepath bugs you out but I don't think I ever had that happen on my druid that I can remember.

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>>162525552

>>162525552
>>162526981
well nice, but i can not fap all day long. wish but that's not how it works.

How many of you are stuck in orsha?

is this game worth getting into?
are you guys having fun or are you beyond that?

>>162528332
its shit but fun

give it a try

>>162534456
I love you!

>>162523346
Thats it I'm done with this fucking game I'm giving away all my stuff, if anyone wants Archer or wizard equipment come to klai ch2

>>162535035
no one cares

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I was considering coming back to the game, but since things only went downhill from when I quit, I decided finally let it down and gave my stuff away. It's sad since I really wanted this game to succeed. Hopefully the costumes will find a nice new owner.

To everyone in Comfy, it has been a lot of fun, especially when world pvp was still a thing. Please accept my last donation of talt that I never ended up contributing.

Best of luck to all of you in whatever you're doing.

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>>162538746

>>162538746
Nobody cares. Mostly because everyone already left. Retard.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>Those patch notes
>Those posts
>This thread
>This game

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>>162540786
maybe it really is time to quit

>>162540786
Agni tomorrow!

>>162541474
Miko tomorrow!

Can't wait till you fags stop playing this game. Then it will finally get good.

>>162542417
how

>Patch notes are so empty and literally nothing that IMC had to remind us (twice) they were selling cash shop shit in them

Holy shit just add some fucking content to the game.

>>162542472
Well you guys won't be there that's already a massive improvement for any game hue

>>162542856
but anon we already quit, you've been playing alone all this time

Someone needs to steal the game code from kim and make a private server already. Goddamit.

Man I had Raven's subhuman pos of GM in my friendlist on one of my alts. Disgusting.

The shitter only levels by grinding. 100% grinding from 0 to r7 (back in the days).

>>162523178
>a bunch of americans, canadians and a mexican.

Yeah, CnL is going to get enriched.

>>162543460
And Murbians

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>>162525516
>Once Ohayou, CNL, and FP merge we'll all be under one banner!

>No one remembers your guild

>>162525516
>All ego players quit or are not in a tosg guild
Not when Ohayou still exists.
The guild was literally built on egos and shitposting.

>>162543510

Murbish is going to join cute though. Even if a kidnapping has to take place to make it happen.

>>162543885
crimson?

>>162543460
w-who is the mexican?

What are you guys getting your crush for Christmas?

>>162546304
dick

>>162546304
dick in a box

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huehuehuehuehue noobs

>>162547137
alsheyra is a full con retard
his unupgraded blessing does +146

>>162545943
Its o _____you

>>162547627
uhmmm

>Pangya is ending tonight despite the fact that for all of its problems, it was still managed better than this game
>Know ToS shares its fate, only a heck of a lot faster

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>>162549546
>implying

>>162549546
Good. Too bad it won't hurt IMC at all. That's the biggest problem with gachaware companies like imc: no matter what they do, they'll still make profit.

>>162549629
Still in Steam's 12169th most played game's. Meanwhile WoW isn't even close.

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>FutureProof has been around as a TOSG guild since alpha. We have members in the current KTOS testing mechanics and builds. We have bi-weekly wars and events, and aren't going anywhere. Most importantly we have four open spots. I'm only looking for people who will bolster our GBL capabilities because they're most lacking.

Good luck to Ohayous, and I'm sorry for you know what Beethoven. If anyone wants a home here you're always welcome.

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Maidcafe is now the """""official""""" tosg guild of EU. That's how low we've fallen.

You're soon to follow, NA. Be prepared.

>>162550629

fuck off retard

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Homing inquisitor pears don't always do x3 damage because while they fly, the target sometimes manages to "walk" over them and it does the normal mine damage instead.

>>162551435
C-Catshater is t-that really you?! I saved you a slice.

Is ohayou already gone?

>>162553575
Fuck i guess cnl is already full. i guess i'll move to a no name guild and live peacefully in the farm

>>162553431
and nothing of value was lost.

>>162553765
Whisper Cats

>CnL gets 5k TP
>suddenly, main ohayou guild hoppers are already prepared to move
really makes your head shake to be honest

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>try to join guild
>"no way, your build is shit"
>rinse and repeat
>just wanted to take it easy

no jp guild is suffering

>>162554482

lets go eat some prosciutto

>>162543885
>No one remembers your guild
Your guild had a chance to join CnL
But you blew it
Now go cry in a corner

>>162543885
what guild anon?

>>162550629
>since alpha
>game figuratively unheard of prior to kCBT3

pvp was bad enough already, now we have owls back lmao

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>>162554102
please this is a no bully zone, we've already lost so many people to other games

>>162554102
I wouldn't care if we got no TP from CnL, that doesn't matter. Having more friends, more things to do, and just being in a truly alive guild is good enough.

>>162554102
a girls gotta do what a girls gotta do to stay cute!

>>162559128
You shouldn't be talking about "being in an alive guild" and having "more friends".
Your guild was created specifically to have less friends and less alive guilds.

>>162559271
I made lots of friends in Ohayou and I stayed friends with everyone I knew before too, what are you talking about? Ohayou was also super alive for about 2 months, it was so much fun logging in every day to play with everyone.

>>162559271
We had enough people to fill every slot for gvg people had to sit out.

>>162559378
>was super alive for about 2 months

only the first month.

>>162560665
No, we had the daily hammy run fun in August and then the Clover merge at the end of the month leading to our GBL days throughout September.

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Just one more week until the best outfits

>>162553431
>but cliques don't kill the guild anon!!

lol

>>162561126
There's an RO thread on /v/ where they were just discussing how discord killed their last alive pserver group.

voice chat + 4chan guild = clique = guild death

Never, ever forget this.

>>162561126
Ohayou became one big clique as everyone in the guild got to know each other and become friends. The guild itself has about 10-14 active members at the moment, so it isn't necessarily dead.

I think the merge is for the sake of longevity of our players, where the guild really is. Our bond as Clover/Ohayou players goes beyond whatever guild we're in. As long as we have each other.

Somebody a few threads ago was talking about blue fisherman farming via a quest in grynas hills, how does that work? I remember you defend an NPC against blue fisherman, do you just take quest, use barrier, fisherman die at end of time and give you xp, abandon quest, repeat?

>>162561598
>Ohayou became one big clique as everyone

retard

>>162561542
this is true

>>162561598
Hahahahah delusional guildhopper

>>162561791


Exactly. around 12m/hour, some silver, some recipes.

Somehow it only gave me exp when I was without a party (even if it was a one man party)

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>>162561793
>>162561951
You can say whatever you like but nothing will ever change the love I have for my guild and the people in it!

>>162561956
That's pretty decent considering you can do it solo, Alameth is what around 20m/hour or is it lower? I might just do the fisherman thing since it's easy and we've got free xp tomes+dumplings atm.

>>162561598
Please don't join CnL.
It's uncomfortable enough having you in our discord.

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>Token runs out in 15 hours
>No Agni
>No one to play with anymore
>No reason to keep playing

It's funny how things all come together like this.

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>>162563059
I don't know who you are but I can't wait to befriend you!

What's the most fun class /tosg/?

I want something like video related. Something where I don't just stand still autoattacking/tanking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGTPebuFCcc&feature=youtu.be

>>162563860
Go away, Rance.

>>162550629
>FutureProof has been around as a TOSG guild since alpha.
there was no guilds until release. dumb cat

>>162551210
What? Maid cafè? How. Why?

>>162564056
most active guild that isn't pure cancer, was friendly to us before and even did WBs together, capy quit and 4-5 members moved there.
The rest of coffee quit.

>>162563772
That specific player is cleric 2 bokor 2 diev 1 pardoner plague doctor 3 and is focused around doing damage over time with plague doctor's incinerate spell. Almost none of the classes can afford to stand still and attack and tanking isn't really a thing other than for grouping up monsters with taunt. You might like Swarze Reiter (Archer) or Cataphract (Swordsman) as both are focused on mobile fighting.

>>162563860
Go away, Jinsae.

>>162563860
I play sv already, doing random instances on tos from time to time

I'm a glorious casualfag

>>162564331
So its a normie guild and 4 of you joined it?
Nah, not a tosg guild. Really.

have fun, but not gonna add it to OP.

>>162564331
>most active guild that isn't pure cancer, was friendly to us before and even did WBs together, capy quit and 4-5 members moved there.
>The rest of coffee quit.

I'll just leave guild without regrets then, I'm playing really scarcely and aimlessly

God bless capybaras!

>>162563860
>try to play hearthstone
LOL COME PLAY SHADOWVERSE
>try to play tos
JUST PLAY SHADOWVERSE

Can you shill niggers just hang yourselves?

>>162564630
I think you misinterpreted my message there.
It was that only 4 people from tosg are playing, and that same inactivity is on its way to Klaipeda, very fast.
I never expected nor wanted it to be listed.

>>162564876
oh

>>162564814
>old "tosg discord" faggots so desperate to get more ppl for there new shit game
cant you retards fuck off already?
you did this shit with OW too and soon you also drop SV

ksy

>>162565728
Second this

>>162565728
I really don't get why they do this. You have to be legitimately fucked in the head to constantly do this kind of this.

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>>162551210
>mfw Insanity keeps asking me to join them

>>162569849
Is maggi a lesbo?

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>>162561951
the only guild I've been in before was clover, why do people have to be such bullies

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>>162568079

How? I've got nothing!

>>162570608

Pray Kim and him slowly gonna put his IMC inside of you when are you sleeping to fill you with free TP and gachas

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>>162570016
maybe

but some of her tweets are about some husband (if google trans didnt lie to me)

>>162565728
But SV is free.

>>162571019
It's also grindy as fuck with the same cancerous "dailies" that ask you to "win a shitillion matches with this one deck which you don't have any decent cards" that every other shitty online CCG follows.

>>162571520
>win 4 times with either of these two decks
>against other players without decent cards

>>162571520
>>162571019
>tos is grindy as fuck
>hey guys play SV instead
>SV also grindy as fuck

what now svtards?

>>162571019
>as if that makes it less shitty

and
>TOS is free

>>162571759
Playing the game is grindy?

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>>162570990

I don't even care about the game anymore. I just want my friend back.

>>162572056
msg him or something before is too late, if is late then....well you fucked

>>162571856
You can literally use that argument for tos.
Are you implying tos is not grindy?

>>162572703
There is a difference between grinding stuff in ToS, and doing the only thing in SV.

>>162572819
>I like grinding SV more so it's not grindy
retard.

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>>162572608

How to talk to dead people?

I don't care what you think about Shadowverse, but it doesn't belong in this thread so get the actual fuck out.

>>162572819
Pretty funny that the exact same logic that killed MMOs is what people are constantly complaining about in TCGs. "Why should I care about playing the game before max level/pvp?" is the same thing fundamentally as "Why should I care about playing the game if I don't have all the best cards?".

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>>162573065
this

>>162572970
>pulling facts out of your ass
>namecalling
I have obviously won.

>>162573205
lmao you won what?

>>162573034

Play the Ouija idk

>>162563183
I'm sure there are plenty of reasons for you to call it quits, but having no one to play with definitely isn't one of them. Your guildies make a constant effort to play and make time for each other. Hell, there was two ET runs sloppily organized yesterday and despite failing the dps check, we still had a good time making that effort together. I wont try and drag you along with us, but know that you are always welcome to tag along.

>>162574986
>Your guildies make a constant effort to play
Joke on you my guild is dead

>>162575424
Give me your stuff before you quit

>>162575659
No.

>>162565728
What happened with OW anyway? Did ToS outlive it?

>>162576025
I thought they were also playing aura kingdom, what happened there

>>162576025
It's a blizz game so people still play it and it's popular but people are starting to see the flaws of it being a casual game forcing itself as a competitive game same as LoL.

>>162576235
Aura Kingdom was dead before ToS was even out. They were playing some shitty private server, so you can guess what happened.

>>162576025
>>162576235
>>162576308
>>162576351
'they' change games each 2 weeks or so

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>>162576025
this is the rule of nature:
any thing that have people keep pushing ded meme in it will never die and in fact become great one day, ex: RO, WOW, dota1, trump and soon TOS
anything that got people hype will truly be ded in matter of weeks or months, ex: battleborn, warthunder, firefall, shillary and your mom's pussy

>>162576351
We were playing on global.

>>162576669
>anything that got people hype will truly be ded in matter of weeks or months
like TOS?

the hpye for it was bigger than my dick

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>>162576780
>>162576669
so what happens if it's hyped as fuck and now people are pushing the ded meme? is it now both alive and dead at the same time

>>162577281
That's undeath, anon.
Kim is a necromancer and we're his dina bee farm.

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>>162577408
>select all the images with pizza
really makes you think

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F
M
K

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trading my female cleric or archer ceremonial costume for your female wizard ceremonial costume!

also have hipster glasses, tactical, serving, and swift hats, or a recycling costume of your choice to offer as trades.

message merigolds if interested!

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>There are people ITT who are going to show up to the meat up without wearing a Ceremonial costume

Disgusting.

>>162580439
>he's just mad because he doesn't have a boat costume

>>162562168
which quest is it?

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>Ohayou
based snoopdoggie knows what's up

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>>162580439
>wearing ugly shit
no thanks, my tasteless maiden

If I put up a couple tokens for 1.7mill do you think tards will undercut me and provide me with cheap tokens?

>>162580924
no, your tokens will be insta-bought.

>>162580847
>Ooyah
i knew this guy is certified retarded but cmon.. that one does not even exist.

>>162580847
who is oouyah

>>162581047
what if I put up 20?

>>162581068
>>162581070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuDtACzKGRs
7s into the video

>>162581221
I'll buy them all.

IMC said people will be able to resell tokens bought on the market soon.

>>162581317
Oh you can't yet? I thought tards were buying them all up and reselling them at higher prices already.

>>162581616
nono, you can now actually

>>162581070
shit that retard made up, like always

can any pyro builds solo rank 7 and 8 content?

>>162538746
Thanks man, kicking myself that I wasn't on to say a final good bye to you. I always did enjoy when you carried my shitter ass in your big strong feminine arms.

All the best for everything you do.

>>162582948
Yes, in kTOS and jTOS :^)

>>162582948
>can any pyro builds solo rank 7
yes sure, easy stuff

>and 8 content?
not 'good' but its k

>Go look at the MMOG thread
>Go look at the Archage thread
>Go look at the BDO thread
>Come back and feel better about ToS.

Guess I'm gonna keep playing this shit for a while longer. Also what the fuck is up with MMOs and shitty hair textures?

>>162582948
If you have linker, and thus do something like 300k bursts with your fireballs because links are OP as fuck.

>>162584752
and if you dont, there is a easy workaround
any pyro without linker just need to reroll to pyro linker

>>162584906
But the class resets are coming

is wiz3pyro3linker2 a good alternative to that ktos #1 et pyro?
my et party isn't geared to the teeth to go that high so I don't think we need to minmax with aoe cat/decay

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>>162585671
>class resets
Why do people play the game if they hate playing the game?

>>162582948

Pyro linker is amazing. R8 is just a mater of getting a very high matk weapon (315 +stage 3 at least) and int + matk hats, animus, 80% fireball attribute. worst case scenario you just link and that dragoon/musket 2 kills everything

>>162585925
>people own channels
NOBODY owns channels lmao lunarrabbit is fucking delusional

>>162585892
You'd be better off with something like thaum 2 instead of wiz 3, due to low base damage on pyro skills. Unless you have a handy personal thaum already.

>>162585925

class reset is necessary because the game is broken and they make balance updates every two weeks

you want me to reroll after 50m on attributes and stage 4 because they somehow give a r3 class that I didn't pick a new attribute that give my r8 skill +50% damage?

If attributes capped at 30 and trans at stage 3...

>>162586089
cc pls

>>162586236
there is no point to cc when you leech ppl

>>162586171
>class reset is necessary
No. If you want to play a different class, level a different class. What would you gain with a class reset? You might as well just sell pre-r8 characters.

>you want me to reroll after 50m on attributes and stage 4 because they somehow give a r3 class that I didn't pick a new attribute that give my r8 skill +50% damage?
If you want to powergame like that, then hell yes I want you to suffer for your reward, else play your perfectly fine class you made already.

>>162586115
not that anon, but is wiz3 really not that great for pyro?

i cant take linker2 if i go wiz 3, and linker1 feels awful because it only works on 5 targets. if i was able to drop wiz3 i could not only go linker2 but also grab runecaster, which just feels way more fun than pressing a single buff every 30 seconds. but i dont want to gimp my damage too much.

>>162586981
Linker1 is terrible, get at least C2

quick cast dmg% scales not that much with agni%
i dont remember the (correct, non-meme) math for it

>>162586981
>but is wiz3 really not that great for pyro?

You're only doing it for quick cast and MAYBE surespell for hellbreath, which isn't that great a skill. Quick cast is only for the 50% bonus since no skills have cast times. You have +50% to your like 400 base damage fireballs or you can have hundreds of extra damage from thaum 2.

Why the fuck would you be runecaster with pyro? Wiz 3 is useless if you're taking cryo in your build btw. ALso you'd want wiz 3 with runecaster because of cast times.

>>162587135
>>162587453
alright, cool.

i cant take thaum2 because i will be going sage. but runecaster just seemed fun, i think i could switch it out for something else?

maybe, is it worth dipping 1 point into kino for psychic pressure + fireball + linker synergy?

something like pyro3linker2kino1sage

you dont get surespell which kind of sucks

>plays wizard
>thinks he's dps

>>162587737
I should mention there's a point where wiz 3 would become better, but it requires you to have a high matk, both to overcome thaum buffs and the mdef of enemies, and it's only going to go up with higher circles.

>>162587453
How about just staying Pyro2? Is Pyro3 really that much better? Wiz3 Link2 Pyro2 then Sage to duplicate the Fireballs?

>>162585671

Yeah, in summer 2017.

You forgetting, Nexon have an exclusivity deal with IMC. We can't get those class resets until months after Nexon does.

>>162588408
50% more hits per ball is nice. more firepillar duration too.

but other than that, its a weak cirlce

>>162588057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGLQLQPZujs

Not a single swordcuck involved. Even the once glorious Doppelmadara has been nerfed to uselessness.

>>162588489
Why do people keep making up stuff to fit their conspiracy theory ideas about why they don't have everything instantly served to them the moment it's made? I hope IMC starts instantly updating iToS with every update still in Korean so people can start bitching about why it's not in english yet.

>>162588579
>Not a single swordcuck involved
>best sword helps them
anon please

>>162588579

>That Pyro dropping fire pillar for 40k+ damage per tick

I TOLD YOU PYRO WAS VIABLE.

>>162588794

Because during the GM meet up it was confirmed this is the case?

Nigga, even jTOS is more up to date than iTOS. jTOS is also ran by Nexon.

queue for gvg nerds

>>162588335
>>162588408
>>162588532

so i guess were back to something like this?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21112227e.11233f45516a7585.1f255a7f.11243545.1133455185

pyro builds are so close to feeling right, they just need a few more skill points. cant take linker2, cant max core pyro skills. ahh.

>>162589551
flame ground down to 1~3, 1 into the rest, max fire wall

>>162589551
i highly suggest to take linker2

>>162588950
>even jTOS is more up to date than iTOS. jTOS is also ran by Nexon.
I guarantee you it would be more up to date than Nexon NA either, and then you'd be making up some other bullshit. Also the GM gave one of those "I can't talk about it" answers.

>>162590067

You're literally delusional anon. There is no reason for content to be delayed this much. They cannot give us a reason for delaying it because they are under a NDA not to.

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it's been real, ohio!

>>162590405
good riddance

>>162590192
>There is no reason for content to be delayed this much.
Same for every NA version of ever KMMO. Is this your first?

>>162590405

I'm claiming Murbish for cute.

>>162589785
i've always taken flameground, but ill try it, sure.

>>162589974
the issue is everything else is auto include. heres hoping r9 is so shit for pyro that it lets me backtrack to linker2.

unless i drop linker altogether and take rune caster for utility or kino for more aoe. not a fan of sorc1. chrono1 and thaum1 dont help me. ff1 seems like a decent consideration i guess, i dunno.

nothing else seems to match the damage output of linker, even if its just 1 circle.

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>>162590405

>>162590681

Other MMOs had sort of legit reasons though. Different publishers with different deals. This shit shouldn't apply here because IMC are both the developer and publisher of the game (iTOS anyway).

There is literally no good reason for IMC to delay content on iTOS, it's bad for business and in the long run will do more harm than good. The only logical reason for them doing this is Nexon are paying them to delay content.

>>162591069
>Other MMOs had sort of legit reasons though
This is true of nexon all region mmos too. Is this your first kmmo?

>>162591616
Also nexon is a publisher, not their boss. They could just find another host or host it themselves if nexon were screwing them over somehow.

>>162589551
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21112227e.11233f45516a7585.1f255a7f.11243545.1133455185

the ktos 40f clearer posted his build somewhere in the youtube comments session

I recommend less flame ground, firewall 14 at least and hb 1 at least

>>162590850
Sage's dupe is shit.

>>162591738
IMC is so incompetent at monetization their business operations were most likely taken over by Nexon "advisors."

>>162591840
he said he will be dropping sorc for kino. i think i finally have a build i'm happy with.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21114222e.11233f45516a7585.15213544.1f2f315a6173.1135435185

>>162591873
why?

>>162592859
>IMC is so incompetent at monetization
Well then
>There is literally no good reason for IMC to delay content on iTOS, it's bad for business and in the long run will do more harm than good
Makes more sense now.

>>162593069
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21114222e.11233f45516a7585.15213544.1f2f315a6173.1135435185

that's nice son

I would just save 1 point from firewall to a possible flare buff (if they change it to behave like cryo's new ice blast...) just save the point

>>162588579
>wiz3 ok
>pyro3 sure
>sorc what the fuck

>>162593441
he should put it in flare anyway to have that sihtty taunt effect it and ice blast have.

>>162590890
Why is Tarot throwing that frying pan away?

>>162593539
that is shit

>>162593069
>why?
many clones are Lv1
Balls not for some weird reason. stupid IMC

>>162593594
bad onko, bad!

>Missions fails because everyone is standing around waiting to pick up some shit card that dropped

>Cloverhayou not Lewd

First FP
Now Ohayou

Is there no /tosg/ guild left?

>>162593530
Aoe increase for his rank in Necro?

>>162594151
cute

>>162594151
cnl

also dead game

do I go full dex if I am a swordsman? i don't know what I am doing

>>162594274
If you are gonna be a fencer, yes.

>>162593530
It's for his party. Flesh pillar doubles the damage of the SR via an attribute, Sorc Cat buffs increase the AoE ratio of the entire party. This game has a lot of strong 1 point dips that go unnoticed because they aren't good in PvP and because people prefer the flashier circle 3 spells to ones that provide powerful passive boosts.

>>162594216
that and sp recovery for mates I'm assuming. desu I feel like linker2 would have been fine too
>>162594274
Thats the safe option. Some con some dex.

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cute is recruiting!

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>>162593783

>>162594389
>via an attribute

No, its on hit if you meant Dirty Pole. Flesh Cannon is the one with the attribute to cause decay.

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>>162593932
>1K hours and i had no idea.
He seems like an airhead

>>162594539
lies they kick people from their autistic discord channel

>>162595098
he's an airhead but he's cute

>>162594539
Only meta builds I assume?

>>162595354
yeah hardcore gvg, minimum 20 talt quota

hold on... I play form aus and on klaipeda I have 16ms?
what the fuckadoo

>>162595457
Aigh.

>>162595179
just for clarification, we have never kicked anyone from the discord.

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>>162595098
>>162594937
>>162593594
silly Oinko

>>162595179
wrong one

>>162595664
the ingame ping lies to you because IMC is full of liars who want you to think you're playing a good game

check your real ping with //ping in normal chat

.070 is 70 ms for example

>>162595847
ok...
.449
love it

>>162594274
The only sword that uses a little bit of Str is goon2 and even then going full dex is still a safe option. Goon has a lot of multihits so it benefits from Str, though this is only alright to do if you're also hop3 for finestra. Every other sword is best off going dex

>>162595971
what about cataphract, do they use spears and are spears based off dex too? I want to try swordsman3 cata3 if that is a thing
I legitimately just started

>>162595924
Y-you could always reroll on tels, I get 300ish ping but with wtfast I get around 150-190 which is actually playable

>>162595679
sent ;)

>>162596194
dex is the best stat in the game, it gives amazing defense stats while also being the best offensive stat

>>162596194
Swordie cata 3 is THE pvp build for swordsman so yeah it's a thing. Got buffed a lot on KR as well.

>>162596194
That's a pvp build. It's better off full dex too, as of now Str really doesn't give all that much compared to what dex does. However, there is a Str buff coming soon but it's not known what the buff is going to be

>>162595847
>>162595664
That thing next to the fps counter isn't a ping measurement.

>>162593932
why do this to Beet, he's a nice guy!

>>162597263
then what is it

>>162595790
what?

>>162597783
?

Is this playable now? Or its still a grind+lag fest for low level players.

Professions when?

>>162597721
How long it takes to display a frame. That is, your FPS in terms of milliseconds.

If your FPs is 30, it should say like 33.33ms.

>>162598581
grind not needed
no lvl grind
high lvl grind is optional but pretty good

>Professions
nope

>>162598754
Unironically feeling grinding dungeons + mission from 50 to 230 has been funnier than playing the quests up till this level. How they managed to make repetitive unimaginative dungeons and absolute braindead missions more fun than questing is beyond me.

>>162600768
Questing isn't fun. At all, ever. They're just boring task lists that get in the way of killing things.

>>162600768

killing stuff with hp > one shotting all your way to r6

>>162600768
Because this game's class design is good and it's monster design is bad. Missions where you play with 5 players using their class skills >>>solo queting killing monsters that don't do a lot until level 200+, at which point they're only really a threat because homing attacks.

>>162600967
>killing 25 things for the sake of killing them is fun
>doing the same thing for a reward of exp is not fun

what time is the meat up

>>162601282
>not having your meat up at all times

>>162601262
It wouldn't be so bad if the quest structure wasn't
>kill 25 of thing
>warp back to NPC
>they tell you to go do it again
>repeat this a total of 4 times
>but why didn't we just tell you to kill 100 of them at once????

>>162601262
>Killing everything you come across in a zone is the same as "go here and kill these guys only in this specific zone and only after you whittle them down to 1/4 hp and use a quest item they can resist while digging up coal"

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So where are my favorite couples from beta now? Have you done it yet?

killing shit is so nice that

>come to a new area
>swash
>kill everything
>talkt to npc
>npc tells me to kill 10 mobs for some item
>have to wait for respawn time because I killed everything

every. single. time., kek

I wish kill counts gave more cards

>>162601593
RIP Gin