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The Encroaching Depression edition

>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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so did they manage to make the game actually fun this time around?
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>>162328515
fun is a buzzword
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>>162328613
why don't they just lower their gfx settings?
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>>162328712
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there is nothing wrong with softcore, dying isn't fun, losing all your items on death is the ultimate in anti-fun
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>>162328979
yet these >>162328613 guys seem to be having a lot of fun
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>>162328979
please refer to this post >>162328712
it's all pixels in the end, nothing really matters, play whatever you want on whatever mode you want
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>>162329063
>5548x3986
but why?
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About what would this be worth? 55-60c?
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>>162329142
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>>162328456
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>>162329068
fun isn't a buzzword though it's not very objective or relative unless you measure it via surveys or something
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>>162329147
i'll give you 5 alchs and 25 chance orbs and 15 fuses

hard core right?
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why are you playing hardcore league when more hardcore games exist desu?
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>>162329457

because some of us ain't fuckin bitches, shitcrow
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I've spent two days scraping together currency, I finally hit 4ex and the fucking moment I do the person I want to buy from goes offline
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>poe exe has stopped working
>in the middle of uber lab

what did chris mean by this
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>>162329205
Waiting for you to increase the size even more
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Why the fuck i got kicked from poeg discord!?
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back
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>>162329147
i wouldnt pay more than 30c for those shit res rolls
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>>162330404
how did that anime end? i remember it was basically a shill for a japanese candy company
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wb
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>>162328979
Hardcore is funnish if you play the game as a roguelike, but the whole "fun" aspect goes out the window when you're doing stuff like mapping on your Hardcore character.

Plus, Hardcore is fucking garbage when it comes to actual build diversity and build power. You just sort of plink around for a few hours, finally start to build up a head of steam, and then die to some random nonsense and start over again at the boring part.
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>>162330509
basically
theres only one reason to watch it
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>>162330509
2 great girls in a poop 'nime with 0 plot, don't bother and yes it was basically a shill show
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>>162330509
It ended with Hirame making a doujin and you could just skip the show
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I'm almost at Shaper but ive never fought him with a CI build. About how much ES do I need minimum? Should I grab a Chayula's for good measure?
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>>162330972
shitcrow or mancorpse ?
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>>162330972
>About how much ES do I need minimum
If you're going to tank slams, 12k or so.
If you're smart, you don't really need much at all.
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>>162331032
sc, i always stop hc at the low 80's (the few times i've gotten there) for more or less the same reasons >>162330589 brought up.
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>just got to 50 on warchief totem facebreaker build

Is this shit retardedly broken or is that just cause im still lvl 50?
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>>162331483
little bit of both. well, mostly the first thing really.
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hardcore would get more players if you only had to go through it once and got the choice to make a level 65 char on the next tries.
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>>162331483
FB warchief is huge damage but you'll lack life and resists and you'll be using Abyssus
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holy shit surrender is literally aegis without needing to go for the increased ES
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>>162233025
>free
>>162235019
>FREE
>>162235031
>free
>>162239512
>FREE
>>162242241
>free
>>162254983
>free
>>162282460
>FREE
>>162288651
>free
>>162309484
>free
>>162321589
>free
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just
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What class do you recommend starting with?
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>poe.trade doesn't list conversions for any currency items
What the heck am I supposed to be doing here? I don't want to get ripped off
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>>162332545
Berserker
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who /wisdom and action/ here?
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I'm gonna just fucking end it all poeg fuck this earth tell me why I shouldn't
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debating on maces or axes for cyclone

Do axes have anything cheap and good for mapping like marohi erqi maul?
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is this game fun guys? ive never played diablo before
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>>162332794
source?
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>>162332869
i hadnt either and only had a passing interest in those sorts of games

i have 3000 hours in it now just fuck my shit up lad
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>>162332876
probably a liveleak recording from some shithole country like Venezuela

good taste
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>>162332818
Kaom's primacy.
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>>162332794
My mother told me if I'm going to get in a fight, poke the other guy's eyes and aim for the head or the groin first ...
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>>162332869
DO NOT PLAY THIS GAME, I WANT OUT

IT'S NOT EVEN FUN AND I HAVE LIKE 2000 HOURS AT LEAST INTO IT

FUCK ME
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>>162333041
www.liveleak.com/view?i=699_1463153346

oh I have found it, that shithole is china.

I love how the whole video has smooth music over it and everyone was skill laughing when the bully got stabbed to death
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>>162331483
It's even better now that they've increased the base range so that unarmed isn't too painful to play without inc aoe.
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>>162333093
Eyes and groin are decent targets, but only if the opportunity presents itself. A kick to the knee or an elbow to the nose or stomach is just as effective in the short term and then you can follow up with a groin shot if it's not enough.

Also if you're in a real fight, never ever grab the other person. Your hands are far better used for blocking or hitting and having someone close enough to be grabbed means you're vulnerable to all sorts of attacks.

Watching "fights" like that webm is painful.
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>>162332156
My problem with that build is that you really want to go duelist for the 100% block chance applied to spell block

But if you don't go Scion for the combo of Gladiator/Guardian, you can't get block capped on tree/shield alone using The Surrender, the highest you can get is 70%

So is 70% block/spell block better or worse than 75% block 60% spell block (assuming you use a Stone of Lazwhar). You could also use the Anvil for 78% block/23% spell block plus more life on block.
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>>162332794
I know the guy started it but the fucking faggot KNEW he had a knife with him and instead of just being more calm he fucking fights back because he has that insurance and probably kills the guy. Like he wasn't fucking murdering him before he got shoved what the fuck?
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>>162333860
t. beta cuck

its pretty clear this wasnt his first time being bullied, why do you think he bought the knife?
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>>162333834
Or you could just grab some jewels and toss on an anvil while gladiator and get 78/78.
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>>162332794
the world is a better place for having one dead bully
what a hero
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>>162332818
ngamaku's flame its secret op
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So with this thing

2 fire golems = 80% more fire damage and an additional 72% from their aura?

or does the aura not stack?
or do neither of the effects stack so there's no point in 2 fire golems?
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>>162336012
neither stack, go for fire + lightning
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>>162336012
The golem aura doesn't stack afaik but i'm not sure about that node "A matching golem" seems to imply it only applies once.
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>Doryani's Catalyst
>Version 1.1.0: Introduced to the game.
>Release date: 5 March 2014

The only (and best) viable scepter is almost 3 years old. Yet they make 100 new axes and wands every league.
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>>162332580
there's a section for currency you dope
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>>162336012
the 40% doesn't stack
i'm mostly but not entirely sure that the auras don't stack either
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>>162336319
all those axes are shit compared to disfavour tho
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>Every act boss has equal damage split between Fire, Cold, Lightning and Physical
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Suck it nerds
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>>162337808
>6 1 2

Disgusting.
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The game really wants me to make a summoner again.
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>msg some guy who appears to be online going by poe.trade
>autoreply:sleeping

Dude should be fucking gassed.
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>Arakaali's Fang is worth 1ex
The Consuming Dark does almost the same but is worth less
Why?
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>>162338453
>tr*ding
Did you rike it?
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Guys, help me choose build.
Whispering ice witch, freezing pulse templar, ice shot ranger, or support cuck?
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>>162328515
Heh... He still plays this game for fun... Move along... KID.
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>>162338674
Whispering ice, its pretty fun if you got the gear for it.
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>>162338674
Go summoner if you wanna be a 'support'


You're useful in parties but also can solo anything and it's fun
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Is ED really as bad for party play as it's notorious for being?
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>>162338460
>almost the same
It's a quarter of the DPS dude
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>>162338892
>>162338782
How do they handle breaches and late game? I only played EQ and TS so im not very familiar with such playstyles.
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>>162340015
well with whispering ice you toss on inc aoe and then stand in place holding right click and murdering everything, never played a summoner so no idea on that front.
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>>162339613
yes but PoE is a solo game unless you're a shitter or a normie
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>>162339954
Even for a ED/Cong build?
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>>162340246
>Arakaali's Fang
>0 stats that help ED/Contagion
>Consuming Dark
>60% Spell Damage and a guaranteed poison on hit for ED

do you have brain damage
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>spend an ex on %es craft
>get 8%
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Is cyclone sheet dps still fucked or is it accurate now?
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>>162338460
>The Consuming Dark does almost the same
They share nothing in common, one is a dagger used mainly for fire to chaos conversion or chaos poison on hit (ED), the other is an obvious attack-based chaos build weapon

Are you retarded? Stop posting already
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>shapers orbs in unique maps

nice meme
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>40% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
>77% increased Spell Damage
>Adds 6 to 132 Lightning Damage to Spells
>+24% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
>+9 to maximum Mana

Imperial skean base - is that worth 14c?
I'm so god damn poor, if I buy that shit I will have nothing left.
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>>162341125
>shapers orbs in Hall of Grand Masters
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>>162341184
needs spell crit and attack speed
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THE WORLD DOESNT NEED YOUR KIND OF BOOTY, SHAVRONNE
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I'd buy the new tabs bundle if the cards tab wasn't so retardedly huge. Literally fucking idiotic how they made it like that for no reason whatsoever.
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is there a cold spell that hits multiple times on a single cast to work with crit?

or a fire spell that isnt firestorm?
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>>162341184
14c isn't much at all

If you're stuck and not able to do maps to farm currency it's probably not because of damage but because of something else
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>>162341695
Nothing in this post makes any sense.
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Poors ww@
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>>162342329
You playing SSF or what?
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>>162340015
Summoner is pretty fun in breaches, you can summon so much shit before you open the breach anything nearby instantly dies.

Then you can go around cleaning it up picking up the hands & stand outside the circle and summon shit into the breach if you're in trouble but want a bit extra loot.

Only have trouble with the huge freeze breaches that just fucking swarm you with freeze & that huge AoE, not sure what you can even do against it other than run away, all your summons die so fast and the boss just chills surrounded in mobs and AoE spells.

Every other breach is ez loot though
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is Rumis still good or complete garbage now?
just found one
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>>162332794
Stay back, or we slice! Slice you to bits! Me and my chums, we shan't be miffed!
Slice 'em to shreds, whoever they are! Wherever, whoever, be they near, be they far!
Stay back, or you're pieces! Tiniest pieces! Hah hah hah hah!
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>>162342478
they sell
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>>162340065
>>162342457
Thanks guys for info, gonna try Whispering ice. Afterall, it looks COOL.
May be later try summoner.
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Just Jack in the Box'd Daresso's Salute did I win yet
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This helm feels pretty underrated, i'm not even stacking fire res or armour but it feels pretty substantial. Shame is has lowish hp
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>>162342258
what?
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>>162342964
I don't think it's underrated, just underused atm
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>>162340379
>looking at tooltip dps ever
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>>162341695
what cold/fire spells proc multiple times from a single cast ?

i read that vortex only hits once so its a little confusing which spells actually hit to proc crits
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I died by overextending in maps (never try to kill a 4 t5 essence mob in a map with damage mobs again)

Give me a new build idea /poeg/

Hard Mode: something that is not that high in the meta right now like Pizzasticks and LameFlurry
Hell Mode: no CI builds
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What flask is the best one to buy to remove bleeding
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>>162343506
>>162343228
Crit is rolled per cast in PoE.
Also why you would want to crit often with a spell makes no sense.
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>>162343559
attack speed +stunlock groundslam using berserker and a 2h rare mace, blood magic and kaom's chest
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Anyone know what tier the breachlord domains are in terms of maps?
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>>162343779
for status element
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>>162343841
i have no fucking idea tbhfam
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>>162343870
With ignite you want big hits, you can get shock easily from vaal lightning trap for big mobs and you should be able to kill everything else without it fast anyway or you will really struggle with the rare mobs/bosses.
Freeze sucks unless you are a support.
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Does "40% damage" from a sulphur flask increase my minion's damage or just mine?
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>>162329147
On sc I would pay 2-3 ex for it.
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can breaches spawn elemental reflect monsters?
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>>162341184
you may want to consider getting a decently rolled divinarius
~90% spell crit with ~60% spell damage for around 5c
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>>162329147
hc or sc?
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Do I need to use a particular send mode for AHK so PoE can't tell if I'm scripting?
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>>162344825
If they're going to detect anything it would be the script running on your computer
That being said, you should use SendInput because it will buffer any of your non-script inputs until it finishes typing so as to not fuck up whatever you tell the script to type.
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So act 5 will be the place where the thing that dominus transforms into came from?
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>>162345097
>act 5
they should remove cruel+merc before then
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>>162345315
Going to be 2 difficulties. They said that.
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>>162345351
where
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EU servers are so fucking dogshit for FUCKS sake I'm averaging 150 ms literally unplayable fuck this game
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>>162343559
Max block Ball Lightning Scion

Use Cybil's for lgoh, use % knockback on hit (jewels + Fending) to maximize life-gain-on hits-per-monster-per-ball-lightning and as a defensive layer

Deadeye for +1 projectile, don't need LMP
Gladiator/Elementalist for true max block or dps

Your 5/6L should be as follow
BL - SE - Controlled Dest - Lpen - Slower Proj - Inc AoE
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How much ES do I need in each piece to reach more than 5k?
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>>162346858
depends on your %es modifier
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>>162346881
My goal is to reach 180%~
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There is literally nothing fun about the labyrinth
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>>162346998
well then you need to reach 5000/2.8 = 1786 base es, amount you should divide by each piece of gear you plan to have es to obtain the average needed

glad to have been of help
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What build benefits the most from a +2 skin of the loyal and what colors?

What keystone from skin of the lords would it want?
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>>162347115
Thank you daddy
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>>162347216
any spellcaster build

max block life builds and ci builds would benefit from phase acrobatics, essentially another 30% cut of spell damage received with none of the drawbacks of acrobatics itself

not sure it if can spawn in theory though
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>>162347064
speedrunning it is fun
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>>162347064
Izaro is the best designed boss in the game that's still challenging
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>>162347243
source?
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>>162347064
opening 5 chests of loot is fun
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>STILL no beast master class
uuh poptarts..??
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>>162347637
I just want a transformation skill like rigwalds wolf form desu
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How do I essence drain? spreading aids sounds like fun
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>>162347637
>poptarts
don't make me slap you
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Guys

Shock Nova
Poison
Added Chaos
Inc AoE
Faster Casting
Rapid Decay

With high shock chance, CI, block. Using a wither totem and lightning golem.
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anyone tried breachlord zones yet?

how tanky are the breach mobs compared to lets say lv80 zone mobs?
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>>162347851
Poison is based off your physical and chaos damage. You can't slap the poison support on an elemental spell and make it poison.
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>>162348157
no fun allowed

what are some fun poison builds then? already played ED until 87
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>>162348157
he has added chaos so technically it would poison. a little.
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>>162348157
He has added chaos so it would work
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>>162348236
poison vortex
100% cold to 100% fire with pyre
100% fire to xx% chaos with consuming dark(s)
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scorching ray + CwC vortex
could it work?
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Are there any plans to shorten the grind to maps?
I can't bring myself to play this game anymore after having to go through the same old boring 3 difficulties every time.
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>>162348936
yes, with the caveat your vortex aoe would be too small to make it anything but a melee spellcaster build and we all know how well "melee spellcaster" that is not BV fares in higher maps
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>>162332195
Bless up senpai
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>mfw watching lifting for the first time

wow you guys weren't kidding, this guy is terrible, especially for someone who plays poe for his job. he's pushing a half hour to farm uber lab once.
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>>162348961
cruel getting removed in 4 months
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>>162349072
Frostbolt totem?
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>>162349345
doesn't work
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>>162349124
You wish you were half as attractive you fucking shitter
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>>162349416
dumb gaybro
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>>162349416
I don't see what you find so appealing, I have a whole set of him in my garage
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>>162349416
thats true desu
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fug :DDD
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>>162349741
>skeleton mage
so it dies in 3 seconds anyway, big deal you scrub
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everything went better than expected
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>>162349741
no ballz
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>>162349741
ei vittu jari :DDD
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>>162349858
disgusting loot filter
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do mirror arrow traps still work?

is it good?
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>>162349934
fuck off neversink
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>>162349934
>>162350018
that is neversinks
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Someone make this stop I am losing my gains.
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Buyer: "hi"
Me: "hi"
Me: ...
Me: "Yes?"
Buyer: "I want to buy the helmet"
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>>162350616
This is the trading experience GGG wanted
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>>162350616
this really triggers me

usually those guys also use ":)" and ":/"

like what the literal fuck?
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"Hi wtb your piece of shit item for 1c, 1 regret okay? :p"
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Blight
Specialty: Killing Blood Monkeys
Pros: Nothing
Cons: Everything
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>>162350989
It has killed Shaper.
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>>162351090
That is an achievement
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>>162351090
so has CI+EB
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>>162351174
Nope.
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>>162350858
>Hi, I would like to buy your [expensive item] listed for [price in chaos], can I pay with 3 regrets, 47 jews, 14 alchs, 21 fuse, 281 alts, and 3 chaos? :)
>>
PF RT EQ with VP?
>>
>>162351242
I mean, if you need a lot of mixed currencies, why not? at least he's upfront about it

the smiley means an automatic ignore from me though
>>
>tfw you realise this whole grinding is worthless because it all gets reset anyway.

I'll just go to the gym instead fuck this gay game, maybe I'll play league
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>>162352006
is it somehow less worthless in standard?
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>>162352006
name one thing in life that is not worthless and everlasting
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Is EQ still the best mellee skill?
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>>162352195
blade flurry is :^)
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>>162352129
fame. everyone will remember Hitler but nobody will remember the thousands of basement dwellers doing the same thing over and over again in this game
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>>162352279
what good is being remembered after you're dead?
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>>162352006
The point of playing games is to have fun. If you have fun doing the same mindless repetitive tasks over and over and over and over, PoE will be fun to you. And there's nothing wrong with that. Go play MOBAs if that's your thing.
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>>162348148
>150% increased life

i hope you have insane dps, because you only have a short time to kill all of them
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>>162351236
are you just memeing on me or did you legitimately not see it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NayUHA1n37k
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>>162352230
Don't know how good BF is for a block gladiator
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>>162352879
"Nope" as in "Nope CI+EB is not a build" and "Nope, recording the last 30 seconds of a fight on Standard doesn't mean much"

Notice how his exp bar is 0%
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>>162343802
Sounds okayish, but not in my budget.

>>162346502
I would like to kill stuff though.


Still need a new build as stated in >>162343559 so please help me out famalams.
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>>162353506
last time I'm helping an ungrateful cunt like you
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>>162353656
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>TFW you finally upgrade the crapgear you've been living off of since mid-Cruel
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>>162343559
Explosive arrow
animate weapon
crit groundslam or crit cyclone w/hegemony's era
storm call
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>>162354283
>animate weapon
How would AW even work in things like Labyrinth and/or boss arenas and map starts?
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>>162343559
gladiator max block flicker strike
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>>162354576
fill your inventory
???
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>>162354130
>tfw spec to +10k ES CI after playing 5,5k hp life for nearly a week
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>>162354576
>Grab a pile of 3-slot Weapons from Stash/map that you didn't animate
>Drop some on the ground in-map/Izaro arena/Boss arena
>Animate
>>
>PPPD-393
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>>162354675
I'm basically right there with you.
>6K total ES currently
>Just waiting on a helm replacement and 2 more levels and then I cash in all of Act 3/4 Merciless' Skill Books and Convert
>Then I can focus on piling up Currency and finding a new Dagger
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ive been playing for a very long time, i still dont know how to make my own builds
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>>162343559
Selfcast RF SR CwC Flame Surge
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>>162350485
are you me?
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>>162353506
aw, but I loved my attack speed groundslammer :C

Belly of the beast instead of kaoms?
>>
>>162354130
Same for me yesterday but for my weapons, my dps doubled after that.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LQrkDUIHTs
Did he deserve it?
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>>162355472
I like his reaction
>>
best way to proc tempest shield?
>>
>Cold Breaches
Why are these so much worse than every other Breach?
>When you pop it, there's always a pack right on top of you, others are an inch away
>Cold AoEs everywhere
>Seemingly higher packsize than other Breaches
>Seemingly take less damage than other Breaches
>Rares spam ice Totems and overlapping Cold AoEs and Ice Golems
>Ice Golems persist after the Breach closes
>Drops my frames to 10 unlike the other 4
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>>162356082
>using a skill that requires to get hit in the current year
>>
>>162356082
Getting hit. It gives the same bonus at level 1 as level 20 and Quality doesn't improve Block, so just take a level 1 Tempest Shield and throw it in a CWDT setup.
100% Uptime after the first pop.
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>>162356248
>>162356285
i'll give it a go

just want to see if i can use it as a cosmetic, i like the looks
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>>162356248
>>162356504

I use it with COH Enfeeble
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>>162328456
mandatory 'how are you people still talking about this game' post

-ksg
>>
>>162356861
Hey, the developer of our game while still hating us at least gives us new content every so often.
>>
Why is Desecrated Ground so impossible to see?
>>
How do league rewards work aside from the cosmetics you get by doing challenges, do you get anything for being top 100 or the ladder or anything like that? I googled a bit but just stuff about races came up
>>
>>162351242
I usually look the rates up and accept because that saves me time buying the crap currency.
>>
is there no recipe for a +1 chaos gem wand?

fuck my life
>>
>New Wormblaster's out
>And it's fucking Grand Spectrum Rain of Arrows-based with 5.8K life
Into the trash.
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>>162356149
Use a quartz flask of heat. It's not a difficult breach if you're prepared.
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>>162358031
Don't

I don't want to see how far it has fallen
>>
I have a psychological problem I need help with.

Titan Quest, Grim Dawn and Path of Exile are games I repeatedly try to play, enjoy for maybe an hour, and then get overwhelmed by the burden of ability/build choice and stop.

Any tips for overcoming this? I figured somebody in here might be able to relate. I can elaborate if it would help you help me.
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>>162358031
nothing "new" about it I remember seeing a video about it months ago dude
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>>162328456
What's the most satisfying build, /poeg/?
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>>162358442
Stop being a little bitch
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>>162358442
Stop being a little bitch ass nigga
>>
>>162358442
play diablo 3
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>>162358442
kill yourself retard
>>
the fuck is this map atlas thing
>>
>>162358442
just chill out and have fun bro
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>>162358442
Easy, choose a premade build and follow it
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>>162358454
Occultist Scorching Ray

I love this playstyle
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On how much money i am sitting on?
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>>162358954
how is scorching ray even remotely fun

do you like being able to do damage only in a narrow straight line
>>
>>162358454
Flameblast, not even kidding.
I've made one FB character every challenge league since it came out and I'm still not bored of the skill.
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>>162359054
you become a big red fire lazer that spins really fast?

Idk, I can't use the skill
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>>162359032
>Saved every fucking Gem
Like 0 if we're just counting equips, inv, and that tab.
>>
poeurl.com/UYc
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>>162359032
maybe 20 alchs IF they decide to buy from you instead of others 300 gem sellers
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>>162359032
unless they all have quality, nothing
>>
>>162359032
about 10 gemcutters if they're all quality
>>
>play while tired and hungover
>rip at 82 in a t4
>no idea what to reroll

i have about 100c what to play lads
>>
>More or less flat broke now after buying all my shit
>Geofri's Crest drops
>Good res, better ES than I had
>Now just saving up for an Enlighten to slap in it
Thanks Fire Breach.
>>
>>162359424
???
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>>162359054
You're a retard. The beam puts a DoT on mobs, so you're basically just sweeping it across packs because one stack is enough to kill whites, maybe a second sweep for blues but usually not necessary. When a rare comes along, you focus it for maybe half a second. Bosses get melted like nothing else.
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>>162351242
>Hi, I would like to buy your [expensive item] listed for [price in chaos]
>puts 3 regrets, 47 jews, 14 alchs, 21 fuse, 281 alts, and 3 chaos in the trade window
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>>162360336
Fucking gumballs
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>>162360261
share your build, every scrotch ray build i try ends up being horrendously suboptimal compared to any other fire hitting skill like say flame blast
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>>162360336
This happened to me with a Jewel I listed for 1 Ex, but he put up Chaos.
>Ended Trade, tossed it back in Storage and said "Convert and come back"
>Booted him from party
>About 5 minutes later, he was actually back with an Exalt
>>
How do you actually know when you applied all 20 blight stacks?

you cant see the debuff anywhere
>>
>steamroll through the game with 0 deaths
>enter maps
>YOU HAVE DIED
>YOU HAVE DIED
>YOU HAVE DIED
>YOU HAVE DIED
fuck
>>
>bought marohi erqi for 1 fuse
>5 socketed it with vorici
>5 link with 4 fuse

Do I sell it? I saw other 5 linked ones selling for 30 chaos.
>>
>>162360583
poeurl.com/UYm

>suboptimal

In what way? SR is pretty easy to build around and doesn't need AoE or crit.
>>
Any experienced spectre users know what a decent level is for Clarity to maximize the mana regen effect, specifically for Knitted Horrors? Even with all of the -mana reserve slots, I don't have enough to reserve all the auras I want with maxed Clarity, but I don't know that that is necessary to begin with, I think I heard at some point that level 6 Clarity was fine.
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>>162332794
>/poeg/ leaking
>>
my dinner
mini pizza flavored snacks
one beer
loneliness
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>>162360824
>>
>watch zizaran cuz bored
>typical cancer twitch cuckboy
>cries all day about his internet fame and "videogame money making"
>suddenly starts talking about how big PoE is
>implies the game is actually doing well
>poe is really dying
>this twitch "streamur" cuck is doing massive damage control despite PoE being trash and dying in the near future
>all to get some more people to give him money for doing nothing all day

literally need to be shot on sight, what a degenerate subhuman. poE is fucking dying, no new content, trash balance, current top-tier builds have been top-tier since beyond.
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>poE is fucking dying
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>>162361705
Ah yes, I remember using flameblast totems and blade flurry in beyond league. I ripped a ton because I was running a 0L skill
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exclusive footage of catshitter in action
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>
>Inb4 Kaom's heart
I still find it weird it's just Haku's table turned vertical.
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>>162361705
Didn't you get the memo? People legitimately like excessive grinding, power creep and trash balance. Take a look at how well Warframe is doing.
>>
>buy 4 mystery boxes
>get 4 extra stash tab.

W O W
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>>162362585

i stopped playing wf like 3 years ago (after the vg clan drama with the lizard persons)

is it better now?
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Are WI builds inexpensive yet? I wanted to run it at the start, but shit was so expensive I had no choice but to run a pizzasticks build and it's not really working out for me.
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>>162363043
WI costs 50c, astramentis 1ex, black sun crest 1 ex.
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>>162362869
No. The devs fucking hate the playerbase and take every opportunity to make them miserable. It'd be like if GGG halved map drops, gave all movement skills 3 second cooldowns, and quadroupled enemy life every map level
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>>162363043
In Essence where essences of Spite were common: no

In Breach where essences overall are uncommon: yes

Think about it: you don't need much to get started, merely a 6s staff and some ES gear, right? Wrong.

You need INT everywhere to scale your offense AND you defense. Buying generic ES gear will not cut it. You don't have a shield or even a quiver, so your ES is lower than most CI builds. Occultist or Trickster are dumb options, so you get even lower ES.

It's one of those builds that are extremely good when maxed out and extremely underwhelming with mediocre gear.
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>>162363467
>your es is lower than most CI builds
>in a build that has two percentage-based int increasing items and scales exponentially
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>>162363043
It's about 2ex of required uniques, probably another 1ex to gear up in int junk.
>>162363689
>no shield
>no helmet
those are the two largest sources of base ES to scale after chest. you can hit a comfortable 10k pool or so, but more than that is hard
>>
>>162362869
>(after the vg clan drama with the lizard persons)

Wot.
>>
>>162363689
Occultist gets 100 flat ES and 32% max ES (160 INT equiv) in a generic tree. Trickster gets 250 flat ES.

Then you lose a 400 ES hubris and a 500+ ES titanium spirit shield. Good luck making up for that with just raw INT scaling.
>>
>>162364081
>going occultist or trickster WI
why cant you just go elementalist or guardian like a good goy
>>
>>162364018

>he wasnt around when warbros utterly dominated every warframe event up to making DE cheat to try and make us lose

eventually it wasnt even DE who killed old warbros, but our own autism when a group of neets with a lizard/otherkin fetish came in conflict with a group of neets with NTR fetish
>>
>>162364349
... that's the point. You can't use the classes that give CI a large amount of ES scaling in a WI build, depriving you of another source of ES. Technically Guardian does get some form of extra ES but they're going to be even more expensive versions of the build, which is an even more definitive NO to the question

>Are WI builds inexpensive yet?
>>
hey faggots, i'm kind of new to poe and I'm thinking about buying some stash slots but i don't know if the game does any sales that i should wait for. like warframe has its 75% coupon bullshit you need to wait for, does poe do a thing I should wait for before i grab inventory?
>>
>>162359157
based
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>>162364685
there are discount sales every couple weeks

but you barely save anything. its noting like warframe coupons. still you should wait for one
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>>162361640
What should I pick? Kinda eyeing the piccolo sticks
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>>162365319
one of each
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>>162365319
are you japanese
ohayo
>>
>>162365319
coconut
>>
>>162365319
Pick up the entire display and set it in your cart.
>>
>>162365496
based
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>>162364831
are the sales just on the items themselves, or am i waiting for a currency sale too?
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>>162365319
strawberry pocky is based
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>>162365759
just items/account features. there are no currency discount sales other than the ones from supporter packs
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did I finally find something worth more than 1c?
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>>162366127
80c on poe.trade. Good job.
And i have yet to get anything worthwhile
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>>162365874
thanks
>>
>>162366127
OG wins the major confirmed
>>
>>162366340
>TFW Vaaled a Jewel and got a 28% Sacrificial Harvest
>And got an Exalted Drop
Feels good man.
>>
>>162365319
Strawberry Pocky you fag
>>
>>162365319
are those fucking wasabi flavored
>>
>>162366673
Are you a fucking lesbo?
>>
Is trying to go full aurafag as dumb as it looks? The passive nodes are all over the place so it'd take a ton of points to get them all just getting from one to another
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>>162367147

supportcucks are absolutely top tier in groups but you NEED people to play with
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how well did i do, lads?
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>>162367769
>meme commander
>>
>>162367490
That makes sense, it's about 75 fucking points just getting them so your build is guaranteed to be pretty trash without someone with an actual build to make use of your auras
>>
>>162367123
Don't have to be a dyke to like strawberry pocky
>>
Any BHC want a free uber lab carry? EU gate

It's free and I need some practice so I can start selling them.

I just want to contribute more than avatarfagging to the general.
>>
>>162347539
asanagi
>>
If I get a volatile rare in a breach I'm going to uninstall this game forever desu
>>
>>162344535
Yes
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>>162368856
>he doesnt have 12k es
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>>162368672
inb4 pk
>>
>converted all my currency, map fragments and items of any value into chaos
>spend every single one on a 4.5ex item

Damn I'm broke

>ex drops seconds into a map

Thank
>>
>Buy tab bundle
>Immediate buyer's remorse
>GGG refunds it within 10 minutes when I send them an email explaining it was a mistake

At least their customer service is good
>>
>>162369507
>most expensive part of your build drops while leveling
>shit luck forever after
conflicted feel
>>
>it's a breach ring with useless unrelated mods

Is there any other kind?
>>
>>162369902
No, but if you vendor sixty of them at once, you get a secret unique.
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:^)
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I feel like there is some tweaking I should do with my gear
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>>162370169

>using aa with cyclone
>not even for hypo
>>
>>162366127
this jewel is so fucking sweet but i can't really slap it on my CI build without making big sacrifices first
>>
>>162370410
Nah, having 175~ is ideal because of map mods
>>
>>162370169
ei vittu jari :D :D
>>
>>162369648
>buy steam portal because I like the look of it
>open a box on a whim with my last 30 currency and get a second steam portal

Pissed I can't gift/trade it honestly.
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>>162370410
you should push it higher for maps

nothing comfier than being capped at high tier ele weakness map
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is 10% anger mana reserve reduction good on an alphas howl?
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>>162371573
no
>>
>>162371401
how did u get to 100% chaos resist
>>
>>162371902
He's CI mate
>>
>>162371902
CI
>>
>>162372069
>>162372074
?
wouldn't just stacking chaos res be better
>>
>>162372306
100% vs some%

gee, that's a tough one
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>Try ED once again
>It's garbage
>Try Flameblast totems
>They're garbage
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>>162372306
You also get 15% More ES and a couple of 8% increased nodes as well.

CI is a good option for many characters who don't have access to a lot of life nodes along their pathing.
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Anyone worse than me? Level 89 atm.
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Bought a carcass jack, but my dps dropped 20k because its only 4 linked. Is there any reason not to use a Jeweller's touch on it or other items in general?

I'm new to the prophecy shit and too retarded to do the math on fusing probability.
>>
>woop! on maximum speed
>new woop!
>immediately whisper him

>still doesn't reply

automated player shops when
>>
>>162372440
you are the only constant
>>
Why the fuck is everything so overpriced this season?
>>
>full plate armour
>no pants

poetard logic
>>
>>162370942
Really wish they would add some way to either gift or resell excess MTX you either don't want anymore or have dumb duplicates of, like Portal effects that you can auto-use on every character without dupes anyway.
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>>162373524
2% off 71.
Cause I didn't feel like levelling properly and then respeccing to CI.
>>
https://www.playerauctions.com/path-of-exile/item/o!125627771/
Should I do it?
>>
>>162373757
jew prophecy = 5l 5s

handy when you just need a 5L in a hurry but losing the 6th s hurts your coloring ability and is a general loss of a socket

would not recommend it
>>
>>162373524
I've got 72 at 83 but I'm playing evasion. This is the first time I've played softcore since the game launched so I'm just playing however I want.
>>
>>162373524
>>162374631
can you please leave
poeg is a strictly hc general
>>
Does anyone know if ProjectPT has a playlist for the music he listens to while streaming? It's all really chill vidya stuff or something.
>>
>>162373780
While this is true, I had lots of success with BF traps in previous leagues. I might try self cast pizza though.
>>
Found a heretics veil, and my current build doesn't make use of blasphemies (I use CoH dualcurse, and need mana reservation for other auras).
Should I sell it or use it for another build? Feels like blasphemystacking could be quite effective this league for the breaches.
If selling, is it worth running lab to enchant it and hope for something good or would that just be a waste of time? I don't really have anything else to enchant at the moment anyway, but not sure if it's worth doing labruns.
>>
>>162374923
not but that fag has terrible taste in music anyway, get alkaizer's playlist if you want some decent tracks, it's a good mix of retro and modern catchy/chill music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcf_FBbIRpM
>>
how in the fuck am I supposed to fight this arrow cunt who makes 500 copies of himself every 2 seconds
>>
>>162375209
move, the copies are dumb and can only shoot straight in from of them, while the original will eventually move

taunt is useful in this case to "force" the real one to aggro you
>>
Is it even possible to lose against vegan?
>>
>>162375209
play totems, they keep shooting the real one if you drop them before he spawns copies :^^^^^^^^^^^^)
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>fighting shrine piety
>accidentally open a breach mid fight
>somehow didn't die
fucking hell I didn't know they could spawn inside boss rooms
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nt chris
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>buy 25 IIR breach ring
>50 IIR in breaches
>why cant' I hold all those uniques
best purchase I've made all league
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>>162374887
I'm playing evasion too, this certainly doesn't help.
>>
Do I still have to make some kind of a poe.trade account, if I'm using premium tabs to sell currency on the currency market? I listed my shit, but it isn't showing up.
>>
who /ssf master race/ here
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>leveling as ed, haven't gotten 100% pierce yet
>enemies cannot die boss spawns in a breach
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help I'm a huge faggot that doesnt understand things

I have a hunch that this might be decent but have no idea how to price it
>>
>>162375739
you don't need any IIR for those unique drops though
>>
>>162376224
1 alteration shard
>>
>>162374447
Probably has to do with external sites that'd be making cash on MTX that GGG relies on for profits. Sucks, but they're making most of their dev budget on MTX and supporter packs.
Duplicate MTX should at least stack.
>>
>>162376224
It's not a Dagger so it's worthless.
>>
>>162376224
The % physical damage and the %crit are both garbage. If you use it yourself it's decent, but I doubt it will sell that well. Could try 5c-10c if not then drop it to 1-2c. Problem is this slot is competing against unique weapons and such.

I rather save up an Ex or two and buy a finalized upgrade rather than something I would use for just a little bit. The weapon does have a level requirement of fucking 68, I wouldn't pay for more than 1-2 alch for leveling stuff.
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>>162376224
shit item
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too bad the life and res are lame
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>Enjoy theorycrafting
>Come up with an idea for a build
>Can't make it work without specific uniques
>New player so I have no good uniques
>Every build I try to make doesn't seem to work without some fancy gear
What do?
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>>162376224
It's mediocre.
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>>162376886
make a farmer build you dip
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>>162376886
>new player
>come up with an idea that needs specific uniques

you're build is shit

honestly.
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why is this game so biased against red gems?

>no channeling red gems
>2 vaal red attack gems compared to 8 green attack gems and 11 blue attack gems

is it seriously so hard to think up strength attacks

>tfw no vaal molten strike whose projectiles turn into xoph breach magma pillars
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>>162376886
Make a build that requires cheaper uniques. Find a niche and run with it, don't use popular meta uniques.
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>>162377320
>No channeling Red Gems
Weight of the Empire (Heavy Strike Threshold Jewel) should have turned Heavy Strike into a channeled skill
>Wind up your swing and the longer you hold it, the more Stacks you get with like 100 cap
>Release and gain X% More damage per stack expended
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>>162376819
The armor too. Anything less than 2000 is ignored for the most part.
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>>162376962
I'll try, still pretty shit at all this so we'll see if it actually works
>>162377089
Some of them? Maybe. Some of them it's just how the game is. It doesn't seem remotely possible to run an aura centric build without uniques to cut your mana reservation
>>162377571
Ooh, I like this idea, though I'm too much of a poor newbie to afford even off-brand uniques, so I think I'll try for a farming build
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>>162375932
Yeah it's a mess. Good thing I decided to play softcore this season since I've died in breaches where the game has literally went to 1FPS.
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>>162364430
>a group of neets with a lizard/otherkin fetish came in conflict with a group of neets with NTR fetish
Sounds like you got what you deserved.
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>>162377613
But anon that sounds fun you can't have that
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im liking this league so far but it seems pretty unapologetically a "fuck you" to newbs and casuals

i think most people would die on these kinds of breaches in storyline stuff
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>>162379887
so what?

it's okay to die in video games
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>>162376886
if your build *NEEDS* more than 2 uniques it's shit.
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Besides calling my ISP, what are my options?
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>>162362869
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>>162380190
both these games are run by jews
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>>162380334
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>>162380182
just wait for next week and hope GGG comes up with good news about this
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>>162376886
Niche build masterrace here. The three uniques my build required were 1c each, and I managed to purchase two of them at max rolls by spending 2 alterations.

And I'm clearing maps just fine, so far. Take a look at cool, cheap uniques and design some builds around them.
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The Vorici missions are a real example of artificial difficulty
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>>162381240
>problem outlines are clearly defined
>players know in advance how to tackle said problem
>players have a wide variety of tools available to tackle said problem
>players can see on the minimap on advance the imminent apparition of the problem
>ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY LET ME 420 NO SCOPE EVERYTHING I HATE TO STOP AND THINK FOR ONE SECOND AAAAAAAAAAAH WHERES MY FREE LOOT
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>>162362581
I need to be able to turn it vertical in my hideout desu fampai
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>>162381603
>being forced to gimp yourself
>good game design
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Are Breach Lords spawns random? I feel like I already one shot of the whole screen (including the rares) when they spawn but I only saw the Lords twice.
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My essence drain is too slow.

What should i reroll:

Normal EQ
Poison EQ

Poison Bladeflurry 1hand block pathfinder

Normal Bladeflurry/dualwield dreamfeather

Warchief Totems

Needs to be Uberlab/Shaper/red map viable.
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>>162382558
Anything bladeflurry is going to cost you majorly when it comes to prices and for whatever reason they're continuing to go up.

I saw good Bino's rolls going for 80c like 3 days ago and now a shit roll is 100+
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>>162382558
>Needs to be Uberlab/Shaper/red map viable.
Disqualifies EQ imo. PF BF sure, although Assassin is still the superior dps version, "normal" Dreamfeather nope, forces you into life+evasion build (lol) which never works out very well late game, Warchief totems sure, but is a slow mapper.
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>>162381058
>"""clearing maps""""

That means about as much as clearing dried lake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyedECtiVVg
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they look pretty
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>>162382558
selfcast flameblast
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DPS oriented builds are for children.
Survival oriented builds are for well adjusted adults.
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>>162383167
my tab looks the same except i have three columns more

i also made it public so i see if there's something decent there, not a single whisper yet
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>>162383081
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz every time this video is posted, it's worth noting he's using TWO doryani's

this combines for 250+ ele damage, 20+ cast speed already a naked character would not get in the first place

alright great you can clear white dried lake monsters with 300+ ele damage as an elementalist, can you handle a t10 breach though? no? so maybe your build isn't hc viable, fuck off
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>>162382953
how would you build a PF bladeflurry? Armor/CI?

And how slow exactly is warchief totems? Slower than ED?
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>>162383440
in other words in todays meta;

being a dumb kid the best way to be a responsible adult
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>>162383549
He's also using Shackles of the Wretched and Windscream without an extra curse
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>>162383081
also you sound like a retard for shitting on the guy using what he claims are 1c uniques to clear maps (however slow that might be), when you compare doryani's prices on BHC:

http://poe.trade/search/ammasiakorauma

but hey, ghudda could probably do the same with lifesprigs, maybe, he's fucking ghudda after all

please dislodge his cock from your throat and resume posting intelligent content
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>>162383167
>Tfw sold 2 columns of them and still look like that
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>>162383843
WTF happen to this price? I got one for 10c in ESC and it was almost perfect roll.

Price in BSC's pretty fucked up too.
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>>162383843
he would have more damage without any weapon if he actually had a passive tree

retard
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>>162383549
>>162383843

it's a joke, nice autism burst tho
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>>162384229
great, you know there's an end game past dried lake though, right?
>>162384242
shut the fuck up
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i miss corruption tempests
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>>162384147
SC and HC prices are different. Most of the items are flooded in SC where in HC they just vanish when people die. Also more people do atziri in SC than HC, resulting in more drops floating.
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>tora beast den with necrovigil
>cave is literally too small to kill them all
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How do I improve performance? What settings can be turned off or down? I have a r9 480 for a graphics card. Not sure what else to adjust. I get stuttering in weird places?
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The Whispering Ice build with Pyre for 100% conversion to fire
6L or 5L 6S staff
cast while channeling flameblast

think it's worth a try?
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>>162384147
Could have been people doing the 100 atziri challenge flooding the market with them.
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>>162384894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsjXo4XHbnU
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>fell for the gladiator meme

you got me guys
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When do I switch from Amplification Rod + Firestorm to Flameblast?
I find it so difficult to kill anything with flameblast and I'm level 62
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What are some really fast and fun sword&board builds?
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>>162380121
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>>162385003
maybe
why don't you do the math yourself
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Fairly new to the game. I'm following this build yet it's telling me to only level Tempest Shield to level 7, why is that?
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>>162386610
So you can still trigger it with your Cast When Damage Taken support dumb anime poster
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>died, thinking of a new build
>reroll a RF character with Ray+CwC+Flame Surge for ST/enhancef AoE in a Doon
>forgot that leveling to 65 is necessary before the fun even remotely begins with RF because you need RotP
Just end me now anons. I hate leveling with Firestorm+Reverb Rod
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>>162386906
>rf
>fun
lmao
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I am using cast when damage taken, blade vortex, warlords mark, curse on hit

Why isn't blade vortex cursing enemies with warlords mark? The cast when damage taken says it supports gems 46 or lower. Blade vortex meets that req. What is going on?
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>brass dome 2.2ex

hhhhnnngg I kinda want to do my autistic armor build with juggernaut

>lioneyes remorse
>brass dome
>veruso's battering rams
>death's door

>rest of items are life+res
>probably at least 50k armour and a lot of endurance charges
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What's the point of stacking a shitload of armor when it doesn't reduce elemental/chaos damage?
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>>162387505
to mitigate physical damage
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What does it mean when someone lists an item for 1.5 currency? How is the value of the half determined?
>>
i have an idear for a cool unique map
it's a vaal temple type layout, all your defenses are brought to 0% and your health and/or ES are at 1. every enemy in the map is a porcupine with 1 health. you only get 1 portal.

thoughts? opions?
>>
nice to see poeg is cool with all the sc players :^)
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>>162387293
Get abyssus in there as well since nothing with phys damage hurts you anyway if you get a stupid amount of armor.
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>>162387735
Boring af / 10
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>>162387964
armor is good? i thought the general consensus was >armor smuganimegirl.jpg
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>>162387983
it's not supposed to be """""""fun"""""" turdboy
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>>162387735
>people have literally forgotten about self-cast IC
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>>162387293
But what are you going to do for damage?
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>>162388094
armor is good if you have a brass dome on juggernaut otherwise not really, the investment required to get it up is so bad and even then it doesn't help against elemental damage
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>>162387735
what poe needs is something like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuBNkHMtafY
mobs just teleport on top of you and hit you
its a defense check
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>easy map
>easy map
>easy map
>easy map
>open lightning breach
>6.5k life gone in <0.5 sec
Why is this allowed?
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https://clips.twitch
.tv/zizaran/SpotlessTapirUleetBackup

casual reminder this "pro" streamer was the first to kill Shaper in hc
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>>162385902
Can I get one fucking filthy reply from this retarded general poetards?
pls
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>>162374971
Huh, did a merc lab run as I realized I hadn't grabbed my last ascendancy points yet, and got this. Around how much would this add to it's value? I'm shit at valuing lab enchants. Do EQ characters use heretics?
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>>162388751
i dnno why he just accepts the lag and doesn't use poesmoother
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>>162388258
maybe add devourers then
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>>162388521
Because GGG are hacks.
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>>162388784
level 28
you just need to get gud
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What are some cheap tank and spank builds? I'd love to find a way to create a CI class while abusing the insane bonuses Champion gives, but itemizing it's been an issue for me to figure out.
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>>162388870
lol
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>>162388946
Please teach me sempai
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>>162388870
0. Earthquakers don't run Heretic's.
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>>162388954
Champion ED is a legit thing
dual wand for max cast speed with perma fortify
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>>162387681
there are no 100000000% accurate exact values, depends on league and such; but usually 1 chaos = 3-4 alchs, for example

check poe.trade for a rough idea of what the currency exchange rates are
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>>162388878
>lag

it's a fucking ele reflect map and he's coc discharge
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>>162389236
I'm talking about how it stutters every pack

Obviously he's a retard running a vulnerability + reflect map
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>>162389193
ED sounds like a fine idea, but I was thinking something along the lines of a build that gets in your face and can dish out as much damage as it can take.

I'll take a look around and maybe shit out a build idea for everyone to thrash.
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>>162389108
Yeah, I know literally nothing about EQ-builds, never played one myself. Oh well.
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>>162389893
I just love ED so much I can't stop thinking about it
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Why do people buy any ilvl/roll jewels? selling them back to a vendor for a new one? or is there some other recipe I missed?
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>>162390208
ilvl is literally irrelevant for jewels
and if they're buying garbage ones, who knows maybe their build uses the stats
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>>162390208
people might buy shit jewels to try to grind through the corrupt jewels challenge before the price of vaal orbs shoots through the roof when people try to get it late game.
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>>162387253
>curse on hit
>on hit
>hit
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>>162390208
might just be crafting jewels
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>>162387253
You couldn't put two trigger supports together
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>>162387253
Warlord's Mark needs to be higher level req than CWDT.
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nice game dotards
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>>162392069
wish PoE copied Dota more

>no sleight of fist
>flicker is shitty jump attack
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>>162391795

ahhh okay.
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>people actually run CI
wew
who are you, retarded?
There are thousands of low-life players who do just fine without needlessly gimping themselves
all you do is lose out on 3-4 auras because you can't reserve HP any more,
lose access to ALL low-health modifiers
AND lose the ability to benefit from a fucking PLETHORA of hp-interacting mechanics

Just why?
>>
ta-ta, not-a-cockroach
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>>162393098
>Just why?
>15% more energy shield
r u daft?
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>>162393098
>There are thousands of low-life players
and 10 shavs in BHC
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>>162393098
>seach post on google
>actually not a copy-pasta

based retard
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIwHVkbk2lw
what's the best touhou music to grind dried lake?
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>>162393376
>shavs
lol
overhyped meme armor you need in 1% of edge cases if you're garbage

>>162393250
>15% more energy shield
>can't reserve HP
You might as well just not take CI, not reserve your HP, and have just as much EHP with 10x more flexibility

>>162393396
i make copypasta professionally
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>>162393098
You forgot

>immunity to the one damage type that pierces all mitigation and is a pain in the ass to get res for
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>>162393659
>and have just as much EHP
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>>162393098
Because Shavs is expensive, and CI has 15% More ES.

It's not an objectively bad choice, but low-life builds generally do perform better.
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>>162393659
>low life without shavs
>white skeleton in poison on hit map one-shots you
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>162393659
>overhyped meme armor you need in 1% of edge cases if you're garbage

>just not take CI
>have just as much EHP

Guess how I can tell that you're retarded
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>>162393659
>10x more flexibility
>Literally the only viable chest piece is Shav's

>just as much EHP
>Shavs flat ES vs. high-roll rare chest flat ES
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>triple damage mod
>with vulnerability
>with enfeeble
>know that you're not supposed to touch that Breach
>but can't help but touch it anyway
>dies
Anyone know this feel?
>>
dumb shitcrow
>>
baited for that exact response desu
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>>162393939
i can tell you haven't played LL build

chaos damage is scary but ultimately negligible with your build done properly

you're way more afraid of monsters oneshotting your entire ES in 0.1 seconds than you are of random chaos damage

it's like saying "oh no i'm scared of chaos damage" as a life-based character because you don't have any chaos resist so it literally does 6x more damage than other types of damage. do you ever think that? no, of course not.

>>162393971
>Guess how I can tell that you're retarded
because you have no arguments? lol!

>>162394090
>Shav's
overhyped
meme
garbage
if you're SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO scared of chaos damage, run a Lorica. Oh wait, they're 1 alt trash that nobody uses. why? because it turns out chaos damage isn't THAT scary. you'd rather use an armor that will actually protect you from the monsters that can actually kill you.
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>>162394832
this is some good bait, and I'll award you a (You) for your effort, but you're not fooling anyone kid
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>>162394832
>use an armor that will actually protect you from the monsters that can actually kill you.
I have an idea of what that would be.
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>>162394402
I do it every fucking time.
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>do breachstone at 69
>most of my gems level
>entire levels worth of exp

>>162394402
Always breach
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>>162394402
420 breach it
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Is there anything that keeps track of items still needed for chaos/regal recipe? Procurement?

I'm constantly poor as fuck, but its a pain in the ass to have to keep track of this shit myself.
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>>162396438
Procurement or Acquisition does that

Easiest thing to do is keep rings/amulets/belts and cash in once per map with all the spare rares
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>>162395112
Exactly this

i can get needless extra defense against uncommon chaos enemies my build is already designed to handle

or i can get 3k more es and not die to the other 90% of monsters in the game immediately

hmm?

anything that would kill a LL player from full HP instantly would kill a non-LL player from full HP instantly as well. i keep .35 of my health unreserved and have 6x as much survivability vs chaos, meaning my ehp is equivalent to .35 * 6 = 2.1 times my hp

if i have only 700 hp unreserved, that is 2000 hp total, i am as tanky as a 4.2k hp character vs chaos damage
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu0boj63thE

poetards?
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>>162396817
I love fresh meme!
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>>162396778
>anything that would kill a LL player from full HP instantly would kill a non-LL player from full HP instantly as well.
>Anything that would deal 8,000 damage would also deal 12,000 damage.

Literally what...
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>>162396778
>if i have only 700 hp unreserved, that is 2000 hp total, i am as tanky as a 4.2k hp character vs chaos damage
>700 is equal to 4200
Literally
what...
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>>162396778
So not only are you a shitcrow

You're also a shitcrow who is really bad at the game
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so, week of breach behind

post you're atlas
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>>162397715
red maps don't drop for me
>>
/vg/

I'm wanting to roll an ele frost blades build but I'm not sure if I should go with inquisitor or raider.

Inquisitor:
poeurl.com/U2v

Raider:
poeurl.com/U2w

I'm leaning towards inquisitor but... raider is pretty tasty too.
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>>162396602
Alright, I figured it out. It was Procurement that does it, acquisition doesn't as far as I can tell.

I've got my tabs set up for both recipes, but I can never remember which fucking items i need to pick up to complete them when I have a tab full of shit
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>>162398227
>wanting to play a namelocking skill
why would you inflict that suffering upon yourself
it's like playing a mine build
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>>162398454
It's not /that/ bad, especially after the changes.
>>
>tfw you're bored because red maps never drop
>disfavour still 5ex away

what build do I make now
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>>162398636
Do you really want to play something which isn't /that/ bad for hundreds of hours?
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EEE WOO EEE
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>>162397276
>>162397423
>>162397427
as a LL player i have maxed chaos resistance thanks to the many very good LL items i can use to get maxed chaos resistance easily

most players manage with MAYBE 10-20% chaos res if they are lucky

vs a character with negative chaos resistance, my character's ehp is massively multiplied

if i have 700 hp unreserved, i have equivalent survivability vs chaos as a 4.2k hp character would

every point of HP is worth 6 times as much to me as it is to you vs chaos

anything that would kill me "instantly" would kill other builds instantly as well, or pose a serious danger

shavs is useful in the literally 0.1% of cases where:

>there are only chaos-dealing enemies around, so i don't have to care about losing out on like 3k ES and assorted other defensive benefits
>i didn't expect those chaos-dealing enemies to be around
>those chaos-dealing enemies deal MASSIVE amounts of damage
>i can't react fast enough to use one of my many safety nets, so i have to rely on passive tanking to get through
>those chaos-dealing enemies can kill me without shavs but can't kill me with shavs (sweet spot)
>if I use shavs i will be able to survive the encounter entirely even being gimped with a shitty armor
>if I use shavs I won't die later on to a different assortment of non-chaos mobs because i'm gimped with a shitty armor

in any case where any one of these conditions is not filled, shavs is a useless or even detrimental item

i won't deny that CI makes it simple but then you lose out on massive amounts of damage and survivability vs ANYTHING that isn't chaos
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>>162399002
>hundreds of hours
Not with altitis. Getting bored of the usual builds and want something different, so here it is.
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>do a round of prophecies
>they're all the ones where you have to go to specific places
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>>162399195
"Different" doesn't have to be shit.
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What do you think about my amulet, /poeg/?
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>>162399191
>This jabroni invested this fucking much into chaos res
pic related

>anything that would kill me "instantly" would kill other builds instantly as well,
You mean other builds except CI?
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>>162399191
so wait, you are playing a low life build so shit that it actually has to waste a flask slot on a life potion?

And you did this just so you could avoid using shav's....

wow.

No words can describe how bad this is.
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>Get a Scaeva
>Now have the best one hand sword you can get without dropping exalts
One hand sucks
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>>162399191
>See this post
>Look up Low Life gear on the wiki
>Literally no chaos resist
What am I missing?
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>>162400071
>What am I missing?
It's a troll
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>people are STILL responding to the LL troll
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>>162393971
are you a troll or retarded? shavs and low life builds in general are not about ehp or chaos damage mitigation, it's about stacking auras. plus as others have said low life gives you access to pain attunement witch is 30% MORE dmg.
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>>162399443
where is the resist and +life?
trash ~___~
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:^)
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>>162400178
Fair enough, I'm new as fuck so I didn't want to rule out me being a dumbass
I literally can't even tell what makes a good build, it seems like the only thing to do is pick a skill and slap as many added damage mods and support gems and heralds and whatnot on as possible unless you're going for something like minions
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>>162398227
h e l p
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>>162395905
what kinda BF Marauder are you playing? Jugg?
how does it play? can you link your tree?
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>>162400746
>not playing gladiator flurry
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>>162400746
i think some people are playing blade flurry cast on channel bladefall :^) you might want to look into that
similar to flameblast cast on chan firestorm
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Playing LL without shav is having to run away of anything that look like a spider and a snake.
I called it "The Australian Expierence"
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>>162389224
Thanks man
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>>162338748
is it really like this? i started playing again this week and for some reason i get this feeling i should quit now before its too late

[the gameplay is just so god damn boring]
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>>162397715
>willingly giving up clear speed
for what purpose?
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what are the current meta builds for high tier map clear speed and breach/shaper killing?
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>>162401607
pizza sticks
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>died
i don't fucking want to drag through normal and cruel again for 6 hours
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>>162352006
>maybe I'll play league
>tfw you realise the wholoe game is worthless because it gets reset after the nexus is destroyed
dumb
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>>162401329
I love PoE but this genre is about skinner boxes and the players are devoted to analyzing their skinner box and making it into a shinier, faster, more efficient skinner box than everyone else's.
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>>162401607
Flame totem
Blade Flurry
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>>162401392
i dig playing the game instead of dried lake
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i'm not a troll

stop being retards and learn some math

how about you think for yourselves instead of just doing what the T0P Str33m3rz tell you to do
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>>162402718
I can't hear you over the sound of the currency I made in the time it took you to type that post.
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55 exalts for a voidheart upgrade prophecy

JUST
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>>162397715
i'm at 45/126 lol
so fucking bad i'm not posting it
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>tfw you keep going afk to do stuff and miss people wanting to buy your 40c unique

at least five times this has happened, I just wanted to get my soup
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Is there a guide somewhere i can use to start mapping?

this is my first time back since open beta, and i just cleared malachai on merciless with a lacerate build
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>>162402937
What?
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>>162403071
lacerate is super shit

just start running maps and at least earn the completion bonus

it's too late to trade maps now though, so you'll have to buy the ones you need later
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>>162403071
take a map
go to merc lunaris temple waypoint
put map in thing
it's pretty self explanatory from there
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is oros AW chieftain viable?
the increased damage taken doesn't seem like much when your totems are taunting everything and the damage is really high and synergizes

only problem is fireborn jewels
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>>162403338

Whats a better skill for a slayer? I havent had many issues with aw and lacerate so far.

I havent specced into weapon type damage nodes yet either so let me know which skill and weapon i ahould go for
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>>162390151
Hey ED bro, how do you feel about the builds that go duelist for the extra AoE? Is it a legit path?
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what's a build that's super comfy and easy to play like ED but scales into party play and can do breachlords?
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>>162404893
aurabot
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>>162401706
>pizzasticks
>high tier clear speed
>shaper killing

You're gonna have to give me some tips on how to run that build, because i obviously have no fucking clue what I'm doing.
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>rip at 88
>time to reroll something new
>look at list of skills
>realize that maybe out of 100 skills only 5 are viable for red maps

nice fake diversity shit game
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I just wasted 5 ex trying to 6L something
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>>162329147

I would say more like 30-35c maybe, the resistances aren't where they need to be for 5L to be worth that much.
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>>162405175
totem builds are always god tier for bosses because you can just drop them and they dps while you focus on dodging shit
to get a high clear speed out of them you kinda have to follow the school of "I've gone too far, I can't go back" and just drop your totem in front of a mob and dodge past it while you let it take care of it, only go back if your loot filter informs you something really valuable dropped. Also use vaal haste.
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What's your excuse?
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>>162402573
is that unhealthy?
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>tfw you die in about a second during a master quest
What should my next character be and why, poeg?
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>>162405276
most of those skills can take you into end game. some are way better than others, and if you want to play a meta build you are stuck with 5 skills. there are a few exceptions basically the legacy skills from the closed beta , but peoples play style has changed so much that they are just not enjoyable , still doable tho. pick a skill in that list and there is probably a build for it on the forums that is 90+ doing t14 maps
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>>162380334
>both these games are run by jews
>one of them lets you buy most things without spending a dime through in-game trading
>the other sells 40USD armor visuals and 60USD cloaks

And according to GGG only a small fraction of all players use the Steam client.
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>>162406354
Eye of Innocence double Razor CWDT fire skills. You're literally unkillable through T16s because you heal so much.
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>>162406468
t14 with on standard with mirrored gear and 4k hp
just lol
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>>162405276
My biggest complaint about this game

"oh this game is really hard"

No it isn't, it's easy as fuck. The gameplay is 99% "use your one attack skill to kill the enemies" and 1% "oh i have to dodge the simple boss attack or kill this specific boss mob". All of the difficulty comes from your build and equipment.

So people say "well it's a game about build difficulty, the real game is the building, you have to be skilled to make a good build"

and i'm like, that's only because GGG is so shitty at balancing that literally 90% of the skills and build ideas and items in the game are trap options that won't even let you beat Normal difficulty without dying 100 times
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>>162362557
first of all i don't even do breaches
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>>162406593
>>162406354
Oh, right, forgot to mention, I'm too new to have the currency to do anything based on specific uniques
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>>162405956
i dunno, maybe
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>>162406653
>literally 90% of the skills and build ideas and items in the game are trap options that won't even let you beat Normal difficulty without dying 100 times
depressing... how am I supposed to determine which is which?
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>>162406653
name one of these trap options
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>>162406617
pick a skill in that list..and there is a build that can do t14 maps in a temp league without mirrors. i have run a lot of non-meta builds with a lot of 'shit' skills into the 90's . some skills suck more than others, but they still scale like everything else. some skills are shit tho, rain of arrows for example, but it's pretty nice for curse on hit.
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>>162405276
>only 5 are viable for red maps
>forgetting about animate weapon, barrage, blade flurry, blade vortex, bladefall, blast rain (as single target), caustic arrow, cyclone, detonate dead, explosive arrow, flicker strike (sc unless you want to rip to a volatile), frost blades (with good enough gear), ice shot, ice trap, lacerate, lightning arrow, lightning strike (bar the occasional terrain bug), mirror arrow, rain of arrows (among the worst ranged skills for clear speed but still works), reave, siege ballista, spectral throw, split arrow, tornado shot, arc, essence drain, fireball, firestorm, flameblast, freezing pulse (never recovered from shotgun removal but still technically works), glacial cascade, ice nova, ice spear, incinerate, KB, lightning tendrils, lightning warp meme builds, power siphon (still need an amazing wand and KB is just all around easier to get into but hey power charges I guess), scorching ray, spark, storm call, summon raging spirits, ancestral warchief, cleave (suicide tier because of trash AoE but can clear reds), earthquake, flame totem (crit's still fun), ground slam, ice crash, shield charge, shockwave totem, static strike (wish they would remove the 'melee' portion of the skill but it still works), sunder, sweep, ice storm, several vaal skill builds, and trigger gems
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Necromantic Aegis Witch here, what kind of base stats do I want on shields? ES seems bad since when minions spawn in they spawn with 0 and need the time to regen it up but I'm not sure
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>open a breach in a beyond map

this league is pretty fun desu famalads
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tfw there aren't any more interesting skills left to play or they require too much currency and time investment before they become fun
Someone recommend a build, the more hipster the better.
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>>162407198
lol maybe if you play sc with 6 portals you can do t14 with shit skills
on hc for shit skills you have to invest a lot into dmg which leaves you with zero defense and you rip eventually
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>>162407529
>looking at a nuke through binoculars
aka instantly blind
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>>162407119
traps
:^)
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>>162407541
>they require too much currency and time investment before they become fun
That's where you're doing it wrong. Instead of rerolling new builds just respec your shit into it. I doubt you've died so often you have no leveled characters or currency left. You'll make up the cost of the regrets, chromes, and gems with a day or two of mapping.
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>>162407541
discharge is making a come back

that shit was fun as fuck
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>>162407626
like i said, pick a skill. you are just building salty strawman arguments here, 'yeah, but!' pick a skill from that list. and lets find a build, sc or hc doesn't really matter. if you can do sc with something you can do hc, you just need to optimize differently, but anyone who is playing in t14 maps is probably progressing, so they are not building characters that rip 6 times a map. you sound like you play hardcore and maybe get to t1 maps before you rip.
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>>162407529
they reduced the insanity of that with the last patch

soul eater rares are pretty fun too imo
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>>162407629
thats the joke retard
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>>162407912
I pick flame surge
show me a dude who did t16 with flame surge on an hc temp league
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>>162407541
animate weapon is a fun non meta skill, with golemancy it would probably be really nice, AW takes some set up before you can steamroll maps and the golems would help speed that up a bit
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>>162408089
>flame surge
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607731

gee that was hard.
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>>162408089
I'm actually legit interested in trying scorching ray cast on channel flame surge
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>>162408049
no it isn't idiot
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>>162408089
I ran flame surge when 78's were the endgame. The damage back then was fine. Area was trash. It cleared, albeit slowly.
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>>162408260
Scorching Ray doesn't inflict burning
The dot is just fire damage but it's not recognized as burning or ignite.
At least that's how I understand it. You can slap Ele Focus on it without any penalty.
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>>162408302
you see those two in the background? the artist was clearly aware of the amount of energy a nuclear explosion emits
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>>162408243
>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607731
>back in 2.2

how will flame surge clear t16 or breaches ?
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>>162408394
literally any fire damage over time is burning you dumbshit. ignite is just a type of burning. scorching ray is burning damage.
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>>162408408
and so he's saying like "hurr sherman was a real tough guy while he massacred women and children and empty buildings"
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>buy a unique for 2c
>sell it back for 15c
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>Finally switch to CI at Merc Dried Lake
>8k ES in 30c worth of gear

Holy shit man
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>>162408763
8k life would be better tho
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>>162408394
the gem refers to its damage as a burning debuff you retard.
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>>162408513
well it's pretty clear that you wouldn't be able to do it, but there is no reason that build wouldn't be able to clear breaches , it would probably work really well in breaches , flame surge the rares while RF burns all the trash. do you want to try another skill, or do you just want to say just flame surge, nothing else, no RF no ascendancy , no skill points. then yes you are right flame surge won't work.
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>>162408797
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>162408795
but would the gear cost 30c to get a lvl 80 character to that amount?
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>>162408826
holy fuck you are literally retarded
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>>162408795
but for the price of 8k life you can get 12k ES
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>>162408394
Are you literally retarded

Scorching Ray is nothing BUT burning damage, but it doesn't ignite, same as Searing Bond and Righteous Fire.

Elemental Focus works on it because it doesn't inflict a burn via an ignite, it just burns, so not being able to ignite does nothing.
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>>162408928
12k life would be better tho
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>>162408952
So why the fuck is there a distinction between burn and ignite
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>>162409036
Because all ignites inflict a burn, but not all burns are sourced by ignites.
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>>162405276
>>162406653
I just fucking love when reddit experts explain to us how the game works

just fucking love it
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>>162408903
all the skills are useless.
no.
yeah they are.
pick one.
k, flame surge, can't do anything with it.
heres a build for flame surge.
yeah, but.
but what?
fuck you retard.

top kek trebek
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rf flame surge is shit
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>>162405931
>dating a casual
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>>162409259
yeah but it can clear t16s
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>>162408989
but for the price of 12k life you can get 25k es

is 12k life even possible without legacy kaoms?
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What he says:
>There are only 5 viable builds in the game!
What he actually means:
>My shit build got BTFO and I'm very upset about it. It's because I didn't copy those streamer builds that I'm stuck in t8 maps.
What he doesn't know:
>People have killed Shaper with fucking Blight.
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Is it just me or does the runescape mode not work anymore?
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>>162405931
im not into fat chinese chicks
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>>162409557
they intentionally removed it because
>no fun allowed
same as with no shadows.
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>>162408989
Not really. At that point you'd just run utility flasks like CI and need insane regeneration to simulate ES recharge.
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>>162408989
but what matters is what you can get for the price, and ES gets you more for the price starting from merc. dried lake
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>>162409534
It doesn't matter if people have killed Shaper with Blight you retard that's not what '''viable''' means.

Any skill is viable if you have enough currency, but the investment and how strong a skill is determine what's viable as well as how it scales. Which is why shit like Blade Flurry is considered OP because two white daggers can destroy Merc Dried Lake casually.
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>>162409557
>>162409605
how did they remove it? you can still potato
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Anyone know how to fix this? Running Dx 9 if that helps. Dx11 gives me insane fps drops whenever i go into mob packs.
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>>162409789
Literally anything 'destroys' Merc Dried Lake. BF even with GG gear isn't that fast in Dried Lake. It's even poorer comparison than killing Shaper.
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>>162409789
>It doesn't matter if people have killed Shaper with Blight you retard that's not what '''viable''' means.
This just in: Shaper viable builds are not what "viable" stands for
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>>162409859
you can't runescape in dx11.
in faggyd's interview with chris, one of the streamers ask about ways to mitigate the absurd number of particles in endgame maps and he responded by saying "no fuck you it's going to be impossible to see shit and you're going to like it. when we let people reduce the quality of things they made the game into runescape"
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How do I keep playing past level 40? I'm not dying, just starts to feel a bit dull at this point.
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>>162409789
it doesn't have anything to do with currency tho. what do you need hundreds of exalts for? a little extra life, or a little more res? damage , sure, but that just speeds up the fight and is just a convenience not requirement .
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>>162409931
it's still OP not because of dried lake bad example, but it's damage % outclasses other skills
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Double Memefeathers or Scaeva for a BF Raider?
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>>162409943
Shaper viable builds are viable for shaper - at the cost 100ex sure. Meanwhile Vinktars BV could do Shaper in 5ex and do it better.

>>162409990
A little extra life goes a long way when you can get hit for 6k.
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>>162409987
your build hasnt even started fully till it hits 80+ what the fuck are you on about

cruel is boring as fuck, there are no exceptions, just power through it
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>>162409987
Throw on a podcast or audio book and zone out. You're in for anywhere from eight to fourteen hours of grind, depending on how quick you are, on any new account before you can move on. May as well enjoy the ride.
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>>162410159
You actually think a Blight Shaper build would cost more than Vinktars BV let alone 100 ex? LOL nice game knowledge, reddit, you just keep giving and giving

>only 5 viable end game builds :(((
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>>162409557
>>162409605
yea doesn't work in DX11 mode
You can still remove shadows there with poesmoother
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>>162410404
okay make me a blight build for 20c shaper viable
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slayer or zipzoppity raider for uber lab?

the raider would be great for hammering out as many runs in as little time possible, but im worried about survivability
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>>162410159
get life/es on gear and tree.
pick skill.
scale the damage that the skill does.
100ex where?

seriously get off of reddit, and stop following streamer builds. there is a reason why a doryani's catalyst is so expensive... because a streamer is using one. they are a 5-10c item. cucky d plays one, and they are worth 100c.. run atziri a few times and get one. altho you probably can't handle atziri either , so it's a moot point.
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>>162410760
>ONLY 5 VIABLE SKILLS
>THAT DOESNT COUNT
>SOME BUILDS ARE CHEAPER THAN OTHERS

retard
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>>162410860
>moot
who?
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>>162410860
catalysts are always ridiculously expensive at league start. it's BiS for any ignite build. they were selling for 100c before ziggy was even close to having enough currency for one.
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>>162410760
>my 20c viper strike comk desecrate build can't make it past t4s therefore there are only 5 viable end game builds
>>
It's funny that GGG's great idea of consumable currency items got fucking demolished by a moronic, sheeplike playerbase, bad droprate balancing, and a ton of RMT.

Like fucking hell an Exalt is worth as much as an insane nigh-BiS Unique weapon. Woohoo, I can add one property to a rare. Amazing. Nobody even uses the damn things. They have zero intrinsic value because it's always better to buy something with them.

GGG needs to do a League with all new currency items, and/or completely rebalanced droprates. No exalts or chaoses at all. Shake up the economy a bit. Would be fun as fuck.
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>>162410860
it's probably more so that it's best in slot for flameblast with nothing else being close, which is pretty fucking meta right now

thats like complaining disfavours are expensive when everyone was playing cyclone
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>>162411039
>Nobody even uses the damn things.
Rich crafters do, exalting is the proper process of crafting a strong rare, which would take years not weeks if you were limited to finding them "naturally" or chaos spamming. Exalts are also used by multiple level 7-8 master mods. You're clueless.
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>>162411035
>>162410948
ummmm so how much do I need to invest to make blight goood???
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>>162411089
i do agree with >>162410961
start of league so it is more expensive, but it's not an ultra rare drop. and at 5-8c per atziri run, where you make at least 8c a run, it shouldn't take any time to get one if you wanted one, not like it's the be all end all for flameblast, it is nice, but not build enabling .

>>162411039
>>162411236
multi modding is pretty awsome.
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>>162402856

>poeg
>thinken 4 thereselfs

this place is a streamer-worshiping echo chamber. you should know better than to try to tech it to think
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doryanis only for porlif amairite the leech doesn't work with dot? seems meh desu. better to get a 200%+ dmg wand
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>>162411272
Enough for anything that should tackle end game. It won't be cheap but it BV PF certainly didn't cost 5 ex last league either. The fucking flasks were easily more than 5 ex by themselves. Stop shifting goal posts, faggot. You went from "there are only 5 end game viable builds!!!" to "Okay maybe everything is viable but why do I have to spend more than 20c???"

FUCK.
OFF.
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Can't figure out what to do. My cyclone is 76 and feels like my DPS/clearspeed is starting to slow. I've got about 50 chaos to spend, should I buy Lion's Roar or a high PDS axe. Currently using Hezmana.

Or keep saving for Taste? My survivability isn't that great atm either.
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>>162411272
you are the reason i come to poeg, this level of retardation can only be found here.
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>>162411356
who is this satanist priestess
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>>162411035
You know that this is the point, right?

That fun build idea you had? It's shit and you'll never do endgame content on it. The game has 1000+ passive skill nodes, hundreds of possible gem setups, hundreds of items, and less than a percent of builds can even think about endgame.

And I'm not talking about stupid stuff like minion damage + cast on death double strike or something. I'm talking about builds which make sense. Hell, maybe they even SEEM like they have synergy going. You've got a theme, you're picking appropriate passives and items, and in the end you just do a tenth of someone else's damage and die to a stiff breeze.

Why? No reason. That should have worked. You spent time and effort planning your build, researched and made sure everything synergized properly, got a bunch of gear which, by all accounts, should be usable, and it turns out that none of it is. You can't use that unique because you lose too much defense, or you can't use this weapon because it attacks too slow, or you can't use this skill because it doesn't do enough damage.

It's not your fault. Your build made sense. You passed the "build difficulty" phase. But it turned out that half the options you were presented with along the way were just chaff and distraction, nothing that could ever lead to a good build in any situation.

PoE presents you with 100 options every time you turn a corner, and even if you pick ones which seem to go together, it turns out that only 10 of them were ever really an option.
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>>162411381
show me a wand with literally +200% increased damage without counting added flat damage to spells or crit multi
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why isnt the shit i listed on poe trade 3 days ago showing up? it's in my shop thread.... is the site busted?
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>>162411330
>not like it's the be all end all for flameblast

I'm playing flameblast and getting a doryanis turned my struggles in t9s into facerolling t13s. The double dipping is insane.
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wait if all skills are viable why are people saying blight sucks
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>>162411381
ignite doesnt benefit from spell damage directly
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killing shaper with auto attack and no gear is viable you're just all bad and using gear as a crutch desu

therefore EVERYTHINO is viable
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>use a vaal orb on a cartographer's strongbox in the mines lv1
>get t1s and t2s with a list of modifiers a mile long
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>>162411785
for 200 you would need god tire rolls on a hybrid with %fire/cold/lightning.
i don't think we will be seeing one of those for a few weeks.
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Can you get multiple shaper orbs of the same tier or do they only drop once from the map for each tier?
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>>162411697
If your "fun build" is actually a "shit build" you should not have access to end game. The game should put a clear stop to your shit build, whether that happens in a4c, or in t15s is irrelevant. Not all choices are created equal, otherwise they would never be meaningful. The game is essentially one of numbers, not a cosmetic barbie dress up game where anyone can succeed and the only difference is what pretty colorful skill they choose to use.

>The game has 1000+ passive skill nodes
And does one given class gets access to "1000+ passive skill nodes"? NO you fucking retard, you get 120 passive points for your given area of the tree (newsflash, this is why your class choice matters) so your options are already limited from the start. Optimization within that restricted area is what differentiate shit builds from good ones.

>hundreds of possible gem setups, hundreds of items, and less than a percent of builds can even think about endgame.
Wrong, pretty much everything is viable end game if you build around it correctly. Counter-example: Blight.

>I'm talking about builds which make sense. Hell, maybe they even SEEM like they have synergy going. You've got a theme, you're picking appropriate passives and items, and in the end you just do a tenth of someone else's damage and die to a stiff breeze.
Wrong again, plenty of people have reached end game with esoteric builds. As long as you don't intentionally gimp yourself with some garbage special snowflake build, you can go very far.

>It's not my fault
>My build wasn't bad
>I'm good at the game I just didn't pass the gear check
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
More excuses for mediocrity, debating with a reddit shit like you is pointless, uninstall and go play D3 where you can feel good about whatever you play and the game will never hurt your feelings
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the game is FREE
you have no right to complain about anything

everything is viable
GGG needs money
you just want more free stuff and everything given to you
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i remember trying to make trickster lightning warp miner a thing abusing walk the aether and spell totem+detonate mines.went ci and got all the mine/lightning/ele dmg on the tree and gear

idea was auto targeting spell like arc but costs no mana.In practice it had no leech,no defense and subpar single target and slow clear speed
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>>162412238
yes and yes
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>>162412328
pretty much. you don't go eat at a free restaurant 11 months a year then shit on your plate and call the chef a faggot.
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>>162412328
>how does a company make money off a free game?

they dont because it isn't free
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>>162412557
how much is your monthly subscription fee?
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>>162412729
I paid a one time fee to upgrade my shitty free version to a paid version with gameplay improvements
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>>162412729

http://massivelyop.com/2015/03/26/massively-overthinking-the-true-value-of-free-to-play-players/

we've been over this. because you are likely a teenager who still has no concept of value-aggregates, i advise you to read up on the f2p model
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>>162412260
>Not all choices are created equal, otherwise they would never be meaningful
You're creating a strawman. I didn't say that every choice had to be equal. I said that every choice had to be viable.

If a choice is NEVER viable, then it's not a choice, just as much as having all choices be equally viable.

>The game is essentially one of numbers
They suck at numbers. There should not be a reasonable build which does endgame content at a tenth of the speed of another reasonable build, or literally CANNOT do endgame content.

>NO you fucking retard, you get 120 passive points for your given area of the tree
With which you can reach any of 1000+ skill nodes. You are restricted to no location on the tree. Your total options are limited but still uncountably vast.

>Blight.
One counterexample. One. Out of a fucking literal trillion+ build game. It doesn't count at all. You have to use sets of builds at this point. Eliminate swathes at a time. Okay, there's ONE Blight build which works. Prove that there are THOUSANDS which work.

>As long as you don't intentionally gimp yourself with some garbage special snowflake build, you can go very far.
Define "special snowflake" properly. Otherwise, all I hear is an unimaginitive, obsessed sheep who can't comprehend the idea that people might actually like for their time and effort and research spent building to pay off.

>debating with a reddit shit like you
Holy shit, grandpa, update your shitslinging. Even /v/ got tired of calling people Reddit sometime last year.
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>>162411576
Ngahamu's Flame, fampai. It's retardedly good. It's basically a 7L molten strike that procs on 20% of your hits, which is a pretty decent amount.
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>>162412950
>gameplay improvements
stash tabs offer zero GAMEPLAY improvements.

they improve your ability to trade and compete in the rat race, which is your own choice. you know no one is forcing you to buy 50 tabs and play the trade game just like every other sheep, right? if that's what you enjoy, own up to it, don't pretend you were forced to.

SSF players with 4 default tabs play the exact same game as you. they just don't feel compelled to follow your arbitrary rules of how to play the game.
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>>162412328
That's objectively true.

If this were a paid game - like diablo 3 - then complaints are valid, and your money was put into it.

Unless money is spent in the cash shop, there's really no purpose for a F2P player to complain unless there's some sort of glitch in the game that ruins it, or objectively shuts down the whole thing.
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>>162413071
you need to learn the difference between viable and reasonable . is it viable to fill a swimming pool with a thimble , yes. is it reasonable , no.

the game has two major mechanics , kill things and don't get killed. if you want to talk about things that really are not viable , for example you can not complete the hall of grandmasters with a pure chaos build, can't do it. there are ci characters in there, so you literally can not do it.

but that isn't what you are talking about, you are just crying because you suck at the game, you are trying to follow really expensive meta builds, and you can't because you don't have any currency , so you blame it on game mechanics for your inability to actually play the game.

every league starts with zero items and everyone is at level 1, somehow with in a few days people hit the 90's and are farming end game content. how do you think they do that?
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>>162413190
>stash tabs offer zero GAMEPLAY improvements.

false.

Not needing to mule every so often improved my gameplay experience significantly. And the last time i only had 4 tabs was on beyond so it would be even worse now with many new types of currency and comparatively higher unique drop rates.


>SSF players with 4 default tabs play the exact same game as you

false

Speaking as a former ssf player before this was even a thing, i gave up when it turnout the divination card was just smoke and mirrors to actually boost player econ instead of being a viable solution for ssf.

The game is vastly different if you are willing to play into the merchant meta.
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>>162413190
>grinding for levels and items is literally the purpose of the game
>have to pay to stash those items conveniently

nobody forced me but you can't deny that it's a huge part of the game, and frankly playing with 4 stash tabs forces me to sink time into something i do not enjoy, which is minmaxing my inventory space.

poe with only 4 tabs is shitty, annoying and I wouldnt be playing it.

I don't get how people can still bring up this bullshit about how a game being FREE somehow makes all criticism moot. they're making money off you even if you don't buy anything
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>>162413625
>>162413729

anyone who says stash tabs don't effect your gameplay are retarded. you don't NEED them, but they make the experience so much fucking better.
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HOW DO I STOP DYING AS EVASION CHARACTER IN BREACHES?
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>>162413071
>I didn't say that every choice had to be equal. I said that every choice had to be viable.
More often than not, it is. The VAST majority of skills that are not niche/utility skills can be brought to end game. So choice exists. And it certainly exceeds "muh 5 only viable end game builds :(((("

>They suck at numbers. There should not be a reasonable build which does endgame content at a tenth of the speed of another reasonable build, or literally CANNOT do endgame content.
Hyperbole and hypocrisy, no skill does 1/10th of a similar skill, so if you're not completely retarded at scaling it, you won't do 1/10th of said similar skill either.

>With which you can reach any of 1000+ skill nodes. You are restricted to no location on the tree. Your total options are limited but still uncountably vast.
The vast majority of those "1000+ skills nodes" are repeat stat nodes, retard. The interesting clusters don't make the bulk of that "1000+" number. They're a tax on your pathing cost so you are forced to make decisions within 120 points. At no point does the game sell you the illusion you can spec randomly within "1000+" disjointed passive nodes.

>One counterexample. One.
It's a significant one because Blight has: poor base damage, no leech, the drawback of rooting you in place for a long time. If THAT skill can work up to t17, do you really have any credibility left when you complain that only a handful of skills can?

>Define "special snowflake" properly.
Any shit build that fits a "theme" (by your own words) but makes no sense numerically. Roleplay means as much as a rat's fart in this game. You can roleplay as a lightning goddess but that won't cut it if that's as far as you planned out your build. Picking "lightning skill" plus "lightning related supports and gear" doesn't give you a free pass all the way to Shaper.

>Even /v/ got tired of calling people Reddit sometime last year.
If you don't want to be called reddit, don't fucking act and reason like them.
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>>162413625
Why would you need to hoard more than 4 stash tab worth of shit if you don't need to trade and be part of the rat race? Oh no, better stash all those shit 1c uniques you'll never use so you can save up for that juicy 50c unique! Oh wait, you're SSF and you don't give a shit, so vendor it and move on with what you should be doing, PLAYING.
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>>162413848

what is making you die? there are a ton of aoes in breaches that have nothing to do with evasion. if you dont move away from them, youll die. if you have ress capped, youll die

now if you want to maximize your eva, use a properly rolled jade flask + well rolled basalt flask. those will make you a lot more tanky. try to use a way to inflict blind (cwdt vb+blind is one way). if you have decent dps, which you should if are opening breaches, flask upkeep should be a nonissue

if you want to get tricky, make an ahk to trigger flasks on being hit with a 5 second cooldown between checks
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>>162413848
get phys mitigation from your flasks, a basalt is pretty much mandatory for evasion characters
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>>162414032
vendor recipes
maps
div cards
currency
skill gems
placeholder gear
alt gear

retard
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>>162414206
Funny, I do all of those with 4 tabs with ease. And one is dedicated to trading. Boy would 50 extra tabs improve my GAMEPLAY experience. Managing extra tabs and loot is a direct contradiction of GAMEPLAY. You're not improving your gameplay experience when you interrupt every 5 minutes to sell an item. You're improving your currency / hour, that's it. Have you never played a SSF race in your life? Do you know why the first day of a league is the most enjoyable, that's right, because you can focus on the GAMEPLAY without the hassle of dealing with shitters buying 1c items, this rat race you perceive as mandatory.
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Holy fucking shit. No sporkers allowed is full of underage faggots.

You fucks are the worst. R9K shitstains. I hope you all get gang rapped by a gaggle of niggers.
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Reminder stash tabs are P2W and the game is designed to inconvenience you in every way so you buy them.

And MTX effects are pay to get people killed as they load your shitty MTX effects and clutter the screen if you're partying or load into town as an annoyance
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>>162414032
when i played ssf i stashed gear for when i ripped as well. we had no masters so i didnt even bother to keep much currency around other than the regular crafting shit. it was mostly rip-insurance. and guess what? i was fine with 4 tabs

it was when i stopped playing ssf that i found myself muling more. a lot more.

i dont believe you need 50 tabs. i think the sweet spot is around 10 for me. but the qol improvement was huge
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>>162414606
>full of underage faggots.
so it's a /vg/ guild?
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>>162414657
i think you are right, i managed my shit better and made more currency when i had 10ish tabs. i have like 30 now and i find i just dump shit to "sort" later, and totally forget about it .
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>>162405420
>>162408657
>>162412081
>>162413625
Ban these freaks chris
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>>162413902
>And it certainly exceeds "muh 5 only viable end game builds :(((("
I'm not the 5 builds guy. I'm the few builds guy.

>Hyperbole and hypocrisy, no skill does 1/10th of a similar skill, so if you're not completely retarded at scaling it, you won't do 1/10th of said similar skill either.
Not skill, build. No build which does content at a tenth the speed of another. That's clear speed, not damage.

A build is a set of items and skills, not just one. "Clearing content" is clearing maps, not killing individual monsters.

>The vast majority of those "1000+ skills nodes" are repeat stat nodes, retard. The interesting clusters don't make the bulk of that "1000+" number.
I don't even get what you're trying to argue here. Are you trying to say that there aren't lots of builds in the game or something?

>At no point does the game sell you the illusion you can spec randomly within "1000+" disjointed passive nodes.
I never said that it did. Wrong argument.

> If THAT skill can work up to t17, do you really have any credibility left when you complain that only a handful of skills can?
I'm not that guy, again.

And it can do that in ONE demonstrated case. Again, prove that there are MANY cases.

>Picking "lightning skill" plus "lightning related supports and gear" doesn't give you a free pass all the way to Shaper.
If I am playing a "lightning goddess" build, lightning nodes shouldn't be a trap option. Spell damage shouldn't be a trap option. I shouldn't get to Shaper on that alone, but I shouldn't be struggling in Act 3 Cruel because I chose stats which seemed to go together. The game gives no indication or reason to believe that I'm wrong.

>If you don't want to be called reddit, don't fucking act and reason like them.
Grow up, dude. No, better: Define what it means to act and reason like Reddit, and then show me how I fit that definition with specific examples. Or did you fail English class?
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>>162414498
I don't even have a 1c buyout tab, you make a bunch of assumptions. I'm telling you, if I wouldn't have more than 4 tabs I wouldn't be enjoying this game that much and I would have literally quit. It doesn't matter what you think I use my tabs for, it's an opinion and there is nothing your opinion is going to change about that. Many of PoEs player base would agree with me, which is why I brought it up.

This game isn't FREE if content is gated behind a paywall. If GGG didn't make any money and this game was purely charity I would have have shut my mouth about it, but this game is making money because you and I play it. I sure as hell am going to complain if a company is making money over my back but isn't providing proper reciprocation. If they do not fix it, I'm leaving and so is the money they are making from my presence.

There is a reason why game companies try to keep their user base happy.
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>>162411806
does anybody have an answer?
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>>162415289
no, poe.trade aint busted
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>>162415216
>If they do not fix it, I'm leaving and so is the money they are making from my presence.
????????
Do you somehow generate revenue for GGG by your mere presence? I'd like to know the details of such an intriguing mechanic
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>>162412328

If I give you a free bowl of soup then I spit in it do you have no right to complain since it was free?
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>>162415289
how did you list it?

manually or some 3rd party tool?

are you forcing your online status with your 3rd party tool like Acquisition?

is it too expensive (so ending up at the bottom of a long ass list)?
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Dota 7.0 is coming, bye PooE
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>mobatards
>>
How the heck are life leech builds supposed to work? It seems like most ways of buffing a skills damage are elemental so you can't leech off them
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>>162415160
>>but I shouldn't be struggling in Act 3 Cruel because I chose stats which seemed to go together.

'seemed to go together' if by that you mean , they both say lightning, or damage, then you are probably doing it wrong. there are different kinds of damage, and there are different ways of applying that damage, an attack and a spell are not the same thing. most of these issues are from lack of knowledge, not just you but anyone new to poe. i feel your struggle tho, i've been trying for ages to get my blood magic CI character off the ground but i think the game is bugged, everytime i attack i die. wtf GGG
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>>162415617

>2016
>assfaggots
>when overwaifu and assturd league exists
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>>162411806
if you are using a shop you need to get an always online url and add it to acquisition.

http://poe.trade/html/online.html

2. If you don't have any premium/public stash tabs: Go here. Send any message. Wait for a reply. You'll get an "online link". You should then input it into a program such as Acquisition and your online status will be tracked while Acquisition is open.
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>>162415420
>multiplayer content for other players
>word of mouth advertisement potentially roping in more (paying) players

not to mention I bought tabs

you're a fucking retard if you can't understand there are more ways to profit than straight up buying and selling goods.
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>>162415710
>an attack and a spell are not the same thing
You're honestly going to tell me that the giant lightning area above the WITCH zone doesn't go with the WITCH nodes or something?
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>>162415743
league of legends is still the most popular game in the world, moron
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>>162415694
>can't leech off them

you can leech off anything except DoT
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>Act and map bosses have 60% less Curse Effect.
This means map bosses have over 100% LESS, and that just means 0 curse effectiveness in PoE terms right?
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>>162415889
Eat shit, a million flies can't be wrong
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>>162415889
mobas are passé


deal with it, son
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>>162415897
Shit, I did underexplain
I know there are ways to leech off of elemental damage but 100% of on-tree leech is for physical damage, which seems really shitty since, as noted, most of the damage boosting effects I've seen are elemental
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>>162416076
vinktar or berserker
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>>162416019
No silly, less is multiplicative, so you multiply the (1-.75) and the (1-.6) together
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>>162416113
or warlords, or leech gem
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>>162416019
nope, they're both multiplicative modifiers
(1-0.65)*(1-.60) = 14% curse effectiveness vs bosses
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>>162415861
go with the witch, sure it does, goes with any character that paths to it.a problem with a lot of new players is that they don't know the difference between damage types, also increased and more are different, you can have 400% increased damage on a skill that does 1 damage, you need to learn how to scale damage.
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>>162415595
i'm using acquisition with auto online. ive also tried the manual online feature. acquisition sends everything i've listed in my tab to the thread i created on pathofexile website.
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>>162416168
>that boss only gets 10% of the curse offect
>GGG believes this is a good idea
>>
>anima stone is 90c on bhc
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>>162415420
were you intrigued? or are you still trying to break your mind over such a ground breaking feat of economic theory
>>
>>162416345
I could see aggressive affixes like that as an incentive for party play. I mean, the game seems very minimally social to begin with so the concept falls flat but it'd be nice to find a group who covers for each other whenever a nasty affix renders someone moot
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>>162416345
>tri curse babby confused as his usual method of cheesing bosses is rendered ineffective
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>>162416334
tell me one very specific thing you are selling that (like a rare with certain mods that only you are selling)

imma check
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>>162416334
http://poe.trade/html/online.html

do you have your online link?
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can anybody tell me why the fuck im not getting any t9+ maps after farming t7-8s for hours with 46% atlast?? what is this shit
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>>162416445
>I could see aggressive affixes like that as an incentive for party play

my fps dropping to 12-15 when grouping negates any incentive for party play. plus i dont have friends

>>162416528

if building around curses (which isnt cheap) is not a legit way to play, then why trick us into investing in it so hard?
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>>162416537
enlighten gem for 8c. all are 10c. it's been in my shop thread for 2 days.

also selling Rapture Mitts Riveted Gloves.
+37str
7-15 cold dmg to atks
68 max life
42 max mana
7 fire res
21 cold res

nothing shows up. i've looked. i'm on breach league and the thread is in breach league standard shops.
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>>162416682
roll your maps better
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>>162416867
i roll pack/double pack size all the time with good quantity. this is fuuuuucked
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>>162416638
yes i've done this. i'll send for another url.
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>>162416806
why are you selling those gloves they're fucking dogshit
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>>162416990
hes a shitcrow with 0iq what do you expect

>>162416806
execute yourself cuck
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>>162416990
because i'm broke
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>>162416707
how are they tricking you into playing with curses?
>>
>>162417108
that option exist in-game with an extensive array of gear and passive nodes supporting it
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>>162417067
take the alteration shards from the vendor, you're not going to get anything more for that hot garbage
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>>162416806
i see it on softcore breach

its says you are offline

do you have any premium tab or currency tab? set them to public
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>>162417219
so does stun, claws or dual wielding

curses are still way too fucking strong even if you have to use 1 (ONE) chaos to reroll that mod
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>>162328456
just downloaded the game. How's the marauder versus the templar.
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>>162417536

if you are new to the game, duelist or ranger may be easier to get shit going with
>>
>play self cast flameblast
>have to chug like a motherfucker even with loads of mana investment on my tree
>could run a clarity but it's not worth losing temp chains for

it's so good yet so shit at the same time
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>>162417331
wow. i'm dumb. thanks dude
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>>162417636
fuck that there is only man mode.

Maruader vs templar go.
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>>162417640
or you can just run a script to pot for you and forget about mana management
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>>162417727
Roleplayers like you are the worst.
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>>162417727
marauder is easier due to being more straight forward and tankier

both are faggots that dont wear pants
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>>162417727

marauder has 3 paths:

shitty tank
fire-based edgelord / totemer
chimpout life-leecher bserker

templar:

supportcuckhold+tank
elemental edgelord
totememer shitlord
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>>162417978
>shitty tank

fuck me that was my first pick. Totems fun or just giant memes like you said?
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>>162418251

totems can be fun, but its a more defensive kind of play. totems kill shit for you while run around avoiding engaging monsters

the hardest content in the game can be with totems so lack of power isnt a problem.
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>>162418251
just try out whatever you want retard, people on here are going to have their own special opinion

you're the kind of guy that likes big beefy dudes smacking around fuckhuge weapons, right? you're going to like the juggernaut, coincidentally it's a great straight forward and forgiving build.
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>maligaro's lens
>this effect

Why the fuck would anyone ever run a build where you're supposed to die?
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>>162418943
maybe if you used it as a summoner and picked up nerco aegis "all bonuses from your shield are applied to your minions instead of you"
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>>162418943
Necromantic Aegis meme healer
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dead
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>>162419282
nice, topical
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>gonna try and make skeletons viable
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>>162415889
You mean autismcraft
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>>162419967
new map
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>>162338892
In the works on a aurabot summoner with united in dream even with half of the auras and a decked out guardian, I'm steam rolling merciless. Shit is amazing.
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