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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
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>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
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>Misc. translations
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>Booru
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>Recommended reading
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Last Thread:
>>161940651
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Persona is the future of SMT
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I am the future of /smtg/
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SMT is for casuals.
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We should create a world of cute boys
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>>162304992
I agree, I'll join your Reason.
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>>162304869
>Persona 5
>Get cucked by your girlfriend

>Devil Summoner
>Kill your Girlfriend's mystical shaman princess ancestor from ancient China

It's clear to see who wins here
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
make sure to vote you cool guys
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>>162305152
Stop posting this trashy game.
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>>162305252
I'll stop when SMT4A stops reminding me of DmC.
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>>162304992
>>162305110
>>>/a/Yuri on Ice
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>>162304869
>>162304990
>>162304992
>>162305110
>>162305152
Wew, 5 shitposts right at the start of the thread.
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>>162305152
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>>162305342
>>162305391
cute boys had been always a part of Megami Tensei
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>>162305538
Killing shitposters has always been a part of Shin Megami Tensei general
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>>162305607
>the yellow controller laughed "you are wrong"
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>>162305805
Shut the fuck up you fucking lawfag.
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>>162305805
Dumb YHVH poster
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>>162305538
I think you should stop posting.
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>>162305413
no u
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>>162305413
imagine being this mad on the internet
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Why does the demifiend glow in the dark?
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>>162306935
>F-fuck you
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>>162306979
nanashi used taunt.jpg
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>>162306979
I actually didn't make that reply with a DmC reaction to respect your wishes.

But that's fine. I've got more, and I've got more SMT appropriate filenames.
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>>162307160
To be honest I can't imagine anyone retarded enough to actually enjoy DmC and then go post screenshots from it in a completely unrelated place.

>>162307272
You're a big meme.
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>Fatlus was so butthurt over Nishitani being a lawfag they made their own megami tensei
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>>162307313
>a completely unrelated place.
uh oh...
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>>162307520
It says Dante, not Donte da demon killah.
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>>162306120
>defending anime Elliot Roger
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>>162307520
>Featuring Donte, from the shit taste series
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>>162307313
If Barbas doesn't remind you of YHVH and Dante doesn't remind you of Nanashi with slightly less retarded hair, I can't help you.
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>>162307614
Nakajima literally did nothing wrong
There's no harm in sacrificing bullies in order to summon Loki to rape people
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>>162307670
Actually he reminds me of le fox news man because Western devs are incapable of being tasteful
>SMT invented big talking heads
>Donte invented shitty punk hair
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>>162307770
It's hard to be mad at the guy
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>>162305218
>Nocturne wins every time

You can stop making these.
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>>162307770
Nakajima did fucking everything wrong, literally doomed the world to apocalypse because he's an angsty little bitch and would have gotten fucked into the next dimension many times over if it weren't for about 20 instances of plot intervention.
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>>162308392
but he gets the girl and saves the world from the destruction he caused
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>>162297835
https://discord.gg/2Qdh9

better link here. set it to expire in 12 hrs
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>>162308879
>discord
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>>162308964
you're right i should use oovoo
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>>162308640
He still caused thousands of deaths along with the loss of billions of government dollars and probably caused serious political fallout between the U.S. and Russia. I haven't read the third book because I don't know runes though.
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>>162309016
Yeah same. First two were rad tho. Famicom game picks up after 1 right?
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>>162308879
Go back to r/megaten
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>>162309078
The famicom game is based on the third novel iirc. When you get the chance you might as well play KMT, it's entirely translated and a solid game if you like classic megaten.
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>>162305391
Well, this IS smtg after all: shitpost my thread general.
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>>162309587
I already beat both I and II on KMT on my hacked Wii, II is probably my favorite Megaten I've played. I'm just a Famicom fanatic so I'm dicking around with the original on my EverDrive and using passwords and all that, just grinding along when I don't feel like playing anything else. I'm printing out maps though, not in the zone to draw that shit.
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>>162304869
Personal is the present of SMT
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>>162310558
To add to this I can't fucking wait for the translation of II for the Famicom to be fully playable. The version out now is super promising, and it happens to support save states on the ED, as well as having an actual saving system. It's going to kick major ass. As always huge thanks to DManufacture if he's lurking.
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>>162297338
http://www.mukugames.com/entry/2016/10/04/132414
the wings are quite a bit different
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>>162311547
wew i really hope they reuse p5's assets to make a new mainline. those models look dope
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>>162311547
Seeing those even stats in every single Persona physically hurts.
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>>162311689
Are you sure it doesn't hurt balanced?
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>>162307670
you are legit the gayest nigga alive
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HOW DO I GET MONEY ON SOUL HACKERS
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>>162312116
slowly
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Hey /smtg/
How's your day

>Get anxious this week about finals and crap
>Get anxious about other crap
Guess my week was crap
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>>162312658
i just started working full time, i cant wait for the sweet, sweet release of death.
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>>162312658
>tfw wagecucking looking for a real paying job
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>>162312735
same feel, dude
What're you working as
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>>162312116
Quickly
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>>162312116
Grind for mag with only Hacker Nemissa and Zeed. Then sell it all.
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>>162312658
got a puppy, not sure what to call him yet (pascal) but he looks like he's wearing a tuxedo. looks like a lab. we just found him near an abandoned house.

i've been feeling a lot better anxiety wise. been putting into practice not over-thinking things. specifically been having obsessions over philosophy and consciousness. it sucks ass. but i feel like i'm making some real progress.
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>>162313953
Become a nihilist and never worry about social interactions ever again
If I try to make coversation and somebody gives me a funny look or awkwardly ignores me I just think "what a nigger"
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>>162314181
I don't have anxiety about social situations.

I share your attitude though, never understood why people, especially around middleschool age or younger, will instantly sneer and feel contempt for someone trying to initiate conversation.
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>>162314515
I live in the north so most people are either ultra-liberals who fear other humans, or ultra snooty busybodies who will blow you off since they're too important.
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Making the 4A cast babble about cheesy friendship shit all the time when they don't even feel like real friends was cringy and retarded.
I almost regret going Bonds on my first playthrough now.
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>>162314880
It's not too late to change that, kid
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>>162313953
>>162313953
That's cute & that's good on you anon, keep up the good work with anxiety. How do you do it
My anxiety goes from a 0-10 whenever I think about stuff like my college education & future.
Like this whole year, I hated it cause I felt like I never achieved anything & put some burden on people
It sucks, but I just move on but its never really solved
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>>162314880
They're all useless too except for Navarre.
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>>162315685
Isabeau is good as well, luster candy + healing.
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>>162315296
Depends on your anxiety and the severity of anxiety that you feel. I'm on a med right now called propranolol. Was originally made for high blood pressure but due to how it works it also helps for coping with anxiety attacks.

If your anxiety interferes with the quality of your life and / or is all you think about, that is a point where you should seek some professional help. I've been in therapy for 3 years since I developed an anxiety disorder. Therapy will help a lot if you aren't already having sessions, depending on the therapist. But majority of the time if you have a good therapist, they will teach you how to cope with anxiety as well as how to "diffuse" anxiety and get over it entirely.

For myself, I just don't let my thoughts snowball into an anxiety attack. Whenever I notice an irrational thought or something that I think about ad nauseum I just ignore it like every other random thought and allow it to pass without causing myself unnecessary stress.

If I'm not about to have a panic attack or if I feel relatively calm I challenge the fact that I'm feeling anxious and do things to calm myself down, physiologically and emotionally. I try to breathe slower and focus on something around me, like my keys or just how I'm breathing.

My anxieties aren't based around everyday things. I have a lot of absurd thoughts and irrational fears that are vague in nature so they're more difficult to diffuse (in my experience) than say, worrying about whether I'm going to do okay in a job interview.

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To get to the point for your situation though, it sounds like you have a lot of fears about the future and you probably spend time ruminating about them and imaging the ways things can go wrong. If that's true, you'll need to prevent the anxiety from snowballing and encourage yourself to think about more positive things, like measurable goals that you know that you have the capability to achieve.

It doesn't matter how small or insignificant (cont)
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>>162315296
if you can set a goal and achieve it, it will put you in the right mindset to continue to set goals and find out what your limitations are. Be wary though to keep your needs in mind. Your goals may even be related to your needs. Doing something to de-stress or put yourself in a good mood might even be a good start. Don't push yourself too hard, be aware of the fact that your mind and body have to rest in order to maintain your health. Chronic stress sucks ass, and I believe it's the cause of the majority of 16-28 year olds complaints of being constantly tired and stressed out. Being stressed out for a long period of time will just wear you down.


Some of this may not be relevant to you, if it isn't then feel free to ask specific questions. Best wishes man
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>>162311547
I definitely like the old wings better, but beyond that it looks quite nice.
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>>162317106
Thanks anon, I appreciate it
I did keep a small notebook for small stuff like cleaning the dishes & doing homework
It makes me feel accomplished & keeps my mind busy from causing anxiety onto myself

Like right now, I'm trying focus into Real Estate but at the same time, I have a nursing certificate & its like a huge setback cause I failed that big nursing test, that's probably where it began, thinking about it.

I may talk with my doctor about taking some anti-anxiety stuff, but I'd rather not have that unless I need it cause I'll probably use it more often than I thought & I don't want it as some crutch for when thinking about it becomes harder on me.
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Hey /smtg/ hope you had a great day today
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>>162309078
>>162309587
the famicom game is actually kind of an alternate continuity thing, it's nothing like the 3rd book
nakajima goes insane dies at the end of the 3rd book
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>>162318129
thanks my man
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>>162318193
god damnit
nakajima goes insane AND dies at the end of the 3rd book
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>>162317918
>I may talk with my doctor about taking some anti-anxiety stuff, but I'd rather not have that unless I need it cause I'll probably use it more often than I thought & I don't want it as some crutch for when thinking about it becomes harder on me.

Good attitude to have. Too many people in mental health have the attitude that medication is some easy street or fix-all cure for your problems and problematic thought patterns.

I've been on medication for about 1.5-2 years and I don't think it's made much of a difference at all. Recently got off an SSRI and dealt with some awful withdrawal anxiety, but I feel like the propranolol is probably making the anxiety attacks have less physiological power over me. Less heart racing and hyperventilation.

They can be a world of trouble by themselves anyway... You never know how you'll react to a medicine until you take it, and some of them take a while to be effective.

They're really not worth the time and energy needed to experiment with them and figure out what works for you. Though if you're like me they probably won't make a difference and just make you more hungry / have less sex drive.

I wouldn't go for a psychiatrist first. It's like going to the urologist about a kidney stone just because you've been having back pains. Therapist will help you a LOT more in learning how to manage your anxiety and develop more healthy ways of thinking. They will also help you come to the decision on whether you really want to go through with medication or not. Been to the funny farm twice so that's where I started, unfortunately.

Good luck though. People can go through phases of anxiety in harsh times like this, so I wouldn't fret if it isn't interfering with your daily life. I had social anxiety when I was 13 but didn't know what the word even meant. But I couldn't stand going into a crowded room or doing a presentation. Now I fuck around in public and mess with my friends. Got class clown my senior year.
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>>162318549
Thanks anon, I hope that your cards fall in favor some day
Guess we just want people to talk about stuff like that so it at least makes it easier & get an understanding with others
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>>162318549
>>162319209
get a room
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>>162312658
>failed a class and missed the deadline to withdraw before thanksgiving because no one told me and the class was pure shit
>parents going to murder me for it after happy fun holiday break
>ended up playing yo-kai watch 2 trying to not think about it but the guilt keeps creeping up on me

i'm fucking terrified
o-other thank that i finished my christmas list... haha... ha...

I hate college. getting an associates degree is emotionally painful and i just want to play vidya and draw

why this
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>>162318129
this actually made my day thank u
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>>162320801
Hah just wait until you're done with it then the real fun begins
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>>162312658
Like shit. I woke up at 1am and there's no alcohol left. How are you supposed to go through an entire day without booze?
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>>162321023
i can only imagine...
WELP. thank god im finally 21. now i can legally drink my sorrows away
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>>162321182
Buy some, i guess. I personally don't drink or I'll zone out & crash. Why do you wanna drink though
>>162320801
I feel it man. But don't worry, I'm sure things'll be ok

Just think positive, you two!
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>>162322172
>Why do you wanna drink though
What else am I supposed to do?
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>>162321554
>Drinking
You're only making the problem worse.
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>>162322172
>I'm sure things'll be ok
True...

Whatever. Water under the bridge for now.
Right now I'm actually planning my future dream team for Su/Mo right now. And yes, it's Megaten related, no surprise.

One half of my dream team is gonna be Flynn, Walter and Jonathan lol. maybe a nanashi too. i might make nanashi a pyukumuku because its shiny is green and its cute and tiny like him
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>>162323050
Yeah...
Probably best avoided by not drinking. I only drink once every few weeks anyways
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>>162323881
I don't do drugs because then I'd be poor
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>>162324059
Now what if fat albert and the gang did the drugs
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>>162308392
Lucifer made sure he died in the end so its all good.
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>>162309587
Lucifer won in the third novel.
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Night bitches
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>>162325080
night anon
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Is this a good game for someone who has minimal strategy game experience? The only ones I've played are the Advance Wars games on GBA and Zone of the Enders: Fist of Mars.
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Reminder that this guy is the best and strongest character SMT ever had.
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>>162326630
he walked through the tokyo wasteland while bleeding out of his arm stump

pretty strong desu

the witch is also cute
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>>162318129
finished it goodnight /smtg/
pls give me requests ill get to them after finals
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>>162326934
Nice work, very cute.
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>>162326934
im going to cry this is so cute!
How about Nanashi with a Pyukumuku please?
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>>162326557
I think so.
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>>162325502
there is nothing more comfy than this image
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>Page 10
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>>162331861
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BUY IT!
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>>162318305
Well shit, what a way to go.
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https://youtu.be/JYkjru3VDRg?t=14m

Persona 4 Golden's accomplice ending is pretty good.
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>>162349687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CidGmZRdkg

If you don't betray your friends, you played P4G wrong.
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>playing persona 4 for the first time
>had already played plenty of megatens before
>psychological murder mystery
>start thinking about how Dojima said things started happening as soon as Yu gets to Inaba
>get excited that since this is a MegaTen, it's going to be dark and there will be suffering
>think that Yu is the killer, but doesn't know it
>it was fucking adachi

The game had a lot of potential. It's unfortunate it ended up being so happy-happy.
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>>162350470
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>>162307770
Did you miss the part where Ohara went mad because she wanted more sex with Loki?
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>>162350470
Happy-happy sells, mate.

Grimdark and psychological trauma and murder don't, sadly.
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>>162306120
Blowout soon, fellow summoner!
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>>162350470
>since this is a MegaTen
Persona is its own thing now m8 stop trying to cling into its success calling it megaten
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>>162311547
Noncanon/10
Old had 36 wings, New doesn't, at least from this angle doesn't seem to.
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fellow SMT fag here. Ive been on the Hacking and homebrew thread for months and months at a time. I feel like its about time I went back to my rightful place at SMTgen. Also I beat P5 a couple weeks back. How did everyone like it?
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>>162350470
I'm not upset about it being Adachi.
I'm upset that Namatame gets a pass at "he was unwilling but someone messed with him" after the kunino-sagiri fight. Adachi gets a prompt "whatever it was, it didn't come without reason" when the eyeballno-sagiri gets out of him. And shortly later it's shown Izanami fucked around with personas and chose him because lolmessingaround.

Then again, he was a designated villain and moral dilemmas of being a murderer aren't Persona material. And if it was posession plot, it wouldn't be neatly packed up for normal people and crime investigation, so it had to be resolved in this manner, with Adachi confessing and willingly going to jail, which swiftly sands him his rightful punishment without anyone looking into details.
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>>162352956
I'm eagerly awaiting until my glorious overlords of ATLUS USA hand down the game to me.
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>>162326557
Yes.
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>>162350470
SMT can be dark without being lol randumb grim derp, you moron.

Like in... uh...

... er...

Okay fine it would have been more accurate to SMT if Yu was the killer and everyone betrayed him to go murder other people.
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>>162352956
Really looking forward to it. Saw most of the spoilers in the stream threads (Boy that was a hilarious trollercoaster) and it looks really good.

>>162353610
Nametame didn't know he was committing murder. That's the whole point. He was rused so hard he thought he was saving people (And, technically, since nobody died because of him, he had no reason to doubt this.)

Adachi confessed and went to jail because Persona wasn't about magic gay disco eyeballs or some faggy "Everyone wants secrets so all humans should be all secrets forever and ever and all truth should die" magic bullshit. It was about humanity and Adachi's was the tale of a mediocre gamma male who was full of resentment and despair and got super powers and then decided to do what people full of resentment and despair do when they get super powers.

The game was meant to be a murder mystery baked in small town nostalgia. Yeah, it was a fucking awful murder mystery but that still doesn't mean you ought to break the rules of the murder mystery tale or the small town nostalgia tale.

Then again, basically every ending in SMT4 and 4A are proven to be false when you read info not actually provided in the games, so maybe Atlus doesn't give a shit.
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>tfw you're 30
>tfw you're too old to save all of reality with a secret government organization and your friends
>tfw you're too old to fight demons and angles in post-cyberpocalyptic tokyo
>tfw you're too old to make friends and sometimes go into dungeons
>tfw you're too old to become the head of a talent studio that moonlights as mirage hunter badasses
>tfw you're too old to be the target audience of SMT
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>>162312116
Clear dungeons using only protag and Nemissa and then sell half your dosh. You should never want for cash unless you are hitting the compendium.
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>>162360724
At least you are not too old to shitpost.
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>>162361342
My last words on my death bed will be a shitpost. I will never stop.
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>>162361659
What would others' final shitposts be?

"Wow, it took you being entirety of living humanity to kill me." ~ YHVH
"My D^A^D^D^Y will send guys to fuck you up in a different universe (chorus "dats rite")" ~ Goddess of Tokyo
"This wasn't even my true tensei" ~Megami
"Hoy" ~ Walter
"I refuse" ~ Nanashi
"Grrrrrŕr..." (Asahi jumped into Douman's teleporter)
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>>162366143
Kazuya is cute! CUTE!
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>>162371193
Who the fuck is Kazuya?
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>>162371238
that's the semi-official name of the SMT1 hero
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I HAVE A 3DS NOW SMTG

hopefully soon I'll have enough for SMTIV and Apocalypse.
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>>162373450
Good, now you can fully realize how much of a bitch Nozomi is.
>not hacking your 3DS in Anno Domini 2016
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>>162373769
>not supporting a niche series like this so we can actually get more english releases
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>>162373861
>Implying I didn't buy SMT4A and then pirate the DLC
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>>162374182
well that's okay

DLC is the worst shit ever
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>>162373769
t. Dagda
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Hoy.
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Awaken, Kojiro
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I live in a europoor country where there's apparently no one selling SMT4:A except for a single retailer who upped the price by quite a bit, so I had to check alternatives from other countries. Basically, the only reasonable option seems to be Zavvi, but for some fucking reason they list it as being released on 31.12, anyone know if there's a chance more shops will have it by then/they would send it earlier?
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>>162360724
It's either this or 'mature' WRPGs. No fucking thanks. I'll take my weeb shit, and I'll play SMT til I die.
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>>162379132
Import a US 2DS and just buy eShop or eBay? Probably cheaper in the long-run, holmes.
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>>162373769
>Oy sure and begorrah kid these people are mad at you for unleashing fedora faggot who killed hundreds if not thousands of them! This proves humanity is stupid and blind and you should kill them all and replace them with people who don't worry about such petty things.

Dagda a shit.

That said, it's not much worse than SMT4's "Are we SURE we did the right thing killing the people eating monster that swore it would continue to eat people forever?
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>>162372195
>futsuo was used in the manual
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>>162382921
that just means "average guy" though
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>>162379132
>paying for 3DS games

>>162379193
>tfw no matter how retarded SMT4 and 4A got they were still more fun than fucking Witcher 3
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>>162374182
But the best DLC is free
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>>162383118
Exactly. I bought Fallout 4 recently on my Xbone; it's my first WRPG and it's like, pretty ok, but I think it's only fun because it's post apocalyptic and I live in Boston. Western high fantasy stuff is just really hard to stomach.
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>>162383403
Let's hang out bro
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>>162383403
>Fallout 4 is my first WRPG
Is this trolling?

Either way, if it truly is your first, you're buyingh a Bethesda game, not an RPG in a classic sense.

Don't misunderstand me, WRPGs are a fucking mess of a genre, even worse than JRPGs. But Bethesda has a unique style. It's essentially the Call of Duty of the genre, only without the slick production values or good QA. It's mass produced, buggy, patchwork pap without any care to craft.

Bethesda is only good at one thing (And people deny them this virtue wrongly), and that is making a giant world full of stuff to see and walk through and dumb trinkets to collect. They fail at almost every other aspect of RPG design.

The classic WRPGs are classic for a reason. KotOR, BG, Fallout 1 and 2, etc. They aren't especially well designed as games but they are certainly stronger experiences than modern shit, especially Bethesda shit.

>Western high fantasy stuff is just really hard to stomach.
SMT's obsession with despair, teen issues, and their religiously retarded take on theology bugs me but I'm fine with the good stuff.
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>>162383604
boston-bro?
>>162383790
I love the retarded take on theology, it's like my favorite part of SMT aside from the actual gameplay
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>>162384213
Middlesex area.
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>>162384813
rad, I'm a few miles outside the city; not too far from newton or watertown. I'm intentionally obfuscating a little because 4chan. lovely city tho, I never left after college.
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>>162386689
OBFUSCATE ALL YOU WANT I ALREADY FOUND YOU FAGGOT YOUR FUKKEN DEAD KIDDO #doxxxed
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>>162352368
seems like only 30 (give or take 2) on the new model. aside from the new shape of the wings, i like everything else
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>that feely deely when this will never be translated
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>>162387107
plz no
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>>162360724
go play strange journey
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>>162388038
>first time hearing about this game

It looks incredible
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>>162388038
>>162392978
has some of the best music in the entire series imo
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>>162352956
Not getting around to til April hopefully.
Looks like it's taking a lot of inspiration from mainline, but does it still have shitty random dungeons? I'll play it either way but I wish there were dungeons more like SJ or Nocturne
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>>162394419
Can confirm, dungeons aren't random. Look quite good. Heard rumors that they are better than even TMS#FE's dungeons.

Of course, having good dungeons means they can't be borrowing from mainline.
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>>162394738
>Heard rumors that they are better than even TMS#FE's dungeons
WOAH
NOW I FEEL ASSURED
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>>162396089
#FE's dungeons are manna from heaven compared to P3 and P4's dungeons.
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>>162396089
#FE's dungeons are better than mainline's.
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>>162396402
>>162396426
Dont make me start posting Debisama dungeons
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>>162396426
"kek"
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>>162396563
What would you be trying to prove?
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>>162396710
t. someone who liked YHVHverse
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>>162396947
I need to impregnate Trucy.
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>>162396947
t. someone who has literally only played Apocalypse and thinks they know about mainline
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>>162397206
t. someone who hasn't played TMS#FE and just goes "ewww anime" and thus assumes every aspect is shit
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>>162397407
>idolshit
sorry brah, i dont have a mental deficit.
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Which SMT game would you think would make a better anime adaption, that isn't DeSu2

I'd say Strange Journey, if it balanced the action and story, with the side quests being an OVA
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>>162401149
Raidou would lend itself to an anime I think.
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>mainline
>good dugeons
Aside from Strange Journey mainline never had good dungeons. P1 dungeons trash anything that mainline ever put out
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>>162401265
P1 dungeons aren't that different from classic mainline, bro.
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>>162401149
SMT1 or SMTIV
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>>162401149
Fuck adaptations, just make up something new. Tokyo Revelation was rad.
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>>162401734
Ok sure
Got an idea maybe, I would like to hear different story ideas
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>>162401149
Soul Hackers i can already see the YOU WHORE memes
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>>162401857
A boy falls in love with a demon.
Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the demon’s COMP number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately summons her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day’s confessions to the demon, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the demon he summoned is not the same demon he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn’t exist in this universe at all. She is the girl’s Aiziluth counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC’s own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a contract to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
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>>162402270
woah megaten romcom
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>>162402270
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>>162402270
WAY
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>>162402918
TOO
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>>162401149
what if they just followed up on the Digital Devil Story OVA

>tfw we'll never see nakajima go to space
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>>162405852
NAKAJIMA X
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>>162396426
lmao
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SMT needs more cute boys
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>>162409379
>Boys
Only if the protagonist is a christmas cake that wants to breed
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>>162409379
>>162409697
Too bad.

Have some more demons that want to rip you apart and feast upon your corpse.
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>>162409379
SMT needs more absolute madmen.
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nakajima was a HUGE faggot
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>>162410872
Kondo should have just made him his sissy fucktoy instead of beating him, would have averted a good deal of crisis
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>>162411915
i don't know why they keep making nakajima's girly appearance a big deal in this book

is it just to foreshadow that he's a reincarnation or some shit
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>>162412000
If I were to guess, Nishitani probably wanted a belivable way to justify females being attracted to him despite being (physically) a pathetic weakling. Nip girls love androgynous dudes.
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>>162409781
But their just ideas anon they don't want to rip anything.
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My PS3 just died, /smtg/. Do I need a lot of juice to run it on my PC? I have a low-end toaster with a core i3 5005u.

Sorry for being annoying. Have this Airi.
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>>162412670
Nocturne, I mean.
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why was this allowed?
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>>162413627
Stay thou art so beautiful
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>>162413920
What's good nigga?
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>>162414021
Not much my man just jerking off into this sea cucumber
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>>162414097
!
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>>162414184
What the fuck is that thing
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>>162414372
Sea cucumber pokemon.

It pukes it's guts on the opponent when it faints.
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>>162414483
Oh I haven't played the new Pokemon cus I don't give a fuck
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>>162413627
To specifically anger you.
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>>162413627
the future of SMT is Persona
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>>162415724
The Persona future of SMT If
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>>162416290
you wish
translation when
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>>162412994
I have a low end toaster and it worked.
It was decent too, but DDS was unplayable, and I'm not even going to try Raidou.
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>>162413627
they should change alignment reps to alignment waifus
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>>162418676
law/neutral/chaos/harem
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>>162413627
>I find Lucifer to be the best looking
Guess I am going to hell now
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>near the end of the cosmic egg
>leave to get macca and finish some quests
>notice nanashi has the flynn command already
That's weird, why did it appear so early?
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>>162382805
Because they are letting their collective spite and fear guide their actions.

A lot of NPC hunters in Tokyo around the same time aren't so blinded and making irrational statements like them. They're more questioning why they did it. So by themselves the reaction would likely be far less hostile.
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>>162423000
Wrong board, m8
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>>162423000
You forgot to make it SMT related
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Anyone has screens of Ohara getting demon D in digital devil story? How good was Loki that the teacher became devoted to him?
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>>162424114
the correct term is BDC (Big Demon Cock)
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>>162417102
Thanks, anon. Nocturne runs smoothly on my toaster, and so does DDS. Haven't tried Raidou yet.
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>be Aussie
>preorder Apocalypse
>delayed
>delayed
>go in on Friday to pick it up
>Huh? What game is it? Sorry I only know Xbox?
>No store in our state has it yet
>You'll have to wait until next week

Why do you hate me YHVH?
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>>162426761
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Record Scratch did nothing wrong. The only evidence of his evil is some fedora faggot whining about him, a lying ass cripple, a loser mick who watched you die just so he could enslave you, and the literal prince of lies.

Record Scratch was framed. He is an innocent man.
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>>162424590

Big Demon Cock didn't exist in the 80s. Monsters back then had to rely on technique to get a woman to have mind blowing orgasms. Plus Loki looked exhausted on his end, which meant that Ohara was God tier.
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>You will never read Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children.
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It's okay to date demons right?
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>>162429292
Only if you are a demon yourself, I guess a demi demon would be okay too
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>random encounters don't award any money
>pick up relics and sell them for 70 macca per piece
>try out the macca DLC quest
>get 7000 macca for a single random encounter
I'm just speechless. That's some Dybbuk level jewery.
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>>162431542
Challenge quests were the main source of macca for me.
I remember being flat broke all game long until I decided to focus on them, and before I knew it I had 25k macca.
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>>162431786
>25k macca
That's hardly anything but spare change. Summoning a single demon already costs 4-5k+. And I'm just level 14 in the fucking Georgy Forest.
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>>162429292
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>>162304587
friendly bump
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>>162397407
>>
>Navarre awakened
>starts onehitting everything
>gets even further upgrade with Gae Bolg

What the fuck ?
>>
How does mainline SMT manage to stay inferior to all of its spin-off series?
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>>162445841
I mean, it's better than persona, it's better than DemiKids, it's better than last bible at least
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>>162444939
>navarre
>>
CIA with EU DLC anyone?

I bought the game, but paying for DLC disgusts me
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>>162446930
3dsiso
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>>162446930
Just use FreeShop
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>>162446534
>>162444939
Gae Bolg
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>>162452103
Whoops, forgot my meme arrow.
>

Might as well throw in a silly rebait image while I'm at it.
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Soul Hackers is coming in today
What should I expect?
I beat SJ a couple days ago and I wanted another first person SMT
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>>162453070
Getting hardcore with your friends
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>>162453070

a port of a 1997 saturn game
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>>162453070
Hacking your way into a virtual world, your girl getting hacked by a mischievous demon, and hacking into the last moments of a few other devil summoners.

The gameplay is similar to something between classic mainline(1&2) and Strange Journey, though a bit rough around the edges. Nothing too complicated to master, and it can get REALLY easy if you know what you're doing.
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>>162453070
Pick SEXY.
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Hoy.
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>>162453070
An easy, busted game that is incredibly charming and fun.

When Spooky asks about your girlfriend, pick "sexy defines her".
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Has anyone heard about the imagine private server or did they abandon it?
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>>162460295
http://megatenonline.proboards.com/thread/1013/megami-tensei-imagine-private-server?page=12
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Post Aspect Raidou
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>>162454168
>>162460083
HITOMI IS NOT HACKER GF
REEEEEE
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>>162463824
Nemissa is a demon slut for fucking.

Hitomi is your pure gf for marrying.
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why is sera so cute bros?
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>>162467078
she taste like ham
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Hoy.
>>
Hamaon
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Toki is CUTE!
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DeSu 2 is good
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SMT V when?
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what the hell is going on
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>>162431542
I never had any cash money problems in IV.
You just sell all the chakra shits and beads you won't even use. At later point after you get all the important stuff like skill slots, you get the scout +, scout gift and scout bonus and you earn money from recruiting. Coupled with 50% cost from Mido you don't have any problem with money. Guns and swords aren't even that important to have since there are good ones in field, demonica is a hand out that will work well into the game, and coverage with smirk will finish most encounters in a single turn.
You don't have much to spend money on, unless you go for black card and its ultimate Jew shops.
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What would happen if Atlus put Mohamed in the next game?
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World of silence.
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>>162446930
it's only a few dollars/pounds you cheap cunt
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>>162475338
I would rather have anime idols than see what WORSE plot Fatlus can write than 4 and 4A.

>>162481719
JIIIIIHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

Also, putting Mohammed in the game is pointless. He's not much more important than Joan of Arc.

Plus, since YHVH isn't God but just a god in SMT-verse, any Jesus alternative is nothing more interesting or notable than Hercules, who doesn't make it into SMT.
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>>162484951
>paying for DLC
>paying for 3DS games
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>>162485105
Dumb idolposter
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>that scene in which Innana takes over Toki's body and forces her to give birth to new bodies for the Gods/Demons
Who else fapped? Specially with JP Toki's lewd voice.
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Hoy.
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>>162487008
toki a shit
asahi is where is at
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>>162487008
>krishna in his sultry as hell voice asking Inanna/toki if she wants Nanashi's kids
>mfw I have a impregnation/pregnancy fetish

Hahaha.... t-thanks SMTIVA...
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>>162493589
wow me too bro
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When do you unlock the final skill slot in Apocalpyse?
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>>162495780
Level 75
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It was all.. just feeble dream...
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>>162500114
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>>162500114
Eat shit street shitter only Nanashi gets to kill everyone in the universe and destroy their free will to make paradise. Not you.
>>
>Alice in SMTIVA
>Die for Me! is a severe dark
>High Dark Pleroma
Holy shit I want to keep her forever
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>>162501734
Get the item DLC and you can.
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>>162502156
Tell me more
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>>162502265
You grind for incenses and make Alice stronk.
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Metaltron is a fucker
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>>162502390
I should fuck around with elements so I can fuse her with more broken skills when I unlock the final slot right?
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>>162502832
Yeah, and get the bikini DLC for Mephisto for Dark Pierce.
You have to use demon fusion lite to fuse Mephisto into something.
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>>162388038
I actually looked into translating this once, but there are a couple of issues. The Windows version is a hot mess. You need to run a fanpatch to get it to work right. The PC98 version is weird. It seems to decode text at runtime and I can't figure out how exactly. The upside is that they share a lot of the same files - Windows version basically has the exact same files for assets, text, etc. Everything except for the new UI and dungeons.

at the moment I'm just hoping if...'s translation gets released someday, and that maybe Gid secretly canceled the SFC version to translate the vastly superior PS1 version.
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>>162502156
>not making a Slime that can kill everything
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>>162503462
>smt games getting translated
bruh
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>>162501734
Alice will literally be a valuable member of the team until the very last dungeon if she keeps leveling and has a decent support spell, either helping recover from damage or fighting the buff tug of war. At least two bosses are flat out "Do you have Alice?" gear checks.
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>>162505007
She has Dekaja I guess
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>>162505150
Dekaja is remove all ally debuffs or remove all enemy buffs, right? The final final boss is a gear check for having both of those so bam. You're good.
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explain this to me /smtg/
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>>162505356
Fetishes.
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>>162505356
...
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>>162505356
Can you please stop posting this degenerate garbage here
Thanks
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>>162506742
It's just vore you little bitch.
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>>162506836
Shut up Nyarly, don't you have daddy issues to be giving to people?
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>>162510580
Flynn never gets invited.
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>>162485105
>YHVH isn't God but just a god in SMT-verse
Isn't The Great Will/The Axiom god of the SMT-verse and YHVH was just one of his avatars?
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Did Yanks have to go through this DLC expired crap too? It seems stupid that you have to wait for the best DLC to come out even though the game's been out in the rest of the world for months
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>>162513817
I think so but they kinda handwave it that he's subverting the great will but not but then the great will is also the will of all humankind but then not.

Basically SMT doesn't make any sense.
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>>162514179
None of the DLC is good though.

And yes, we went through it twice with 4A and EO2U.
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SMT x Let It Die
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SMT x Ninja Gaiden
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SMTxSMTxFE
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>>162516738
SMT x #FE
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>>162516738
I kind of wish they'd had a bigger SMT connection but it was always meant to be FE made by Atlus
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>>162516738
I hate the game, but i like this girl.
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Just beat this guy on my second try. I thought he was supposed to be hard.
I must say I hah harder time with some of the random encounters than this fight. But then again in both cases I ultimately fight the RNG rather than any opponent in particular, since most of them don't pose any danger until they get the first hit/crit/smirk/land mudo/etc.
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>>162320801
I failed a class too. Been playin' too much Strange Journey desu. My parents don't care because I'm on my own thank god but it still doesn't feel too good.
If you're goin' for an associates at community college tho at least you probably didn't pay an ungodly tuition for the class.

Also, maybe go to school for drawing.
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>>162516981
It's a good game.

>>162516870
The SMT structure and RPG stuff is there. Just nobody plays SMT for the mechanics.
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>>162520830
You kidding? I'm addicted to the mechanics of SMT. No other RPG gives me the same satisfaction.
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>>162520830
Fuck off back to your dead general, please. Nobody here is going to buy any positive comments about that idolshit.
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>>162521459
>dead general
Oh, the irony.
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>>162521569
>/smtg/ exists
>/tmsg/ doesn't exist

Really makes you think, doesn't it?
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>>162521728
>exists
That's a very accurate description. It holds no meaningful conversations and serves no real purpose. It just... exists.
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>>162521841
Then leave?

No one is forcing you to stay in this "meaningless" place.
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>>162516738
Your game is a fusion error
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>>162521230
Get some Etrian Odyssey bro.
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>>162521459
yes they will, because it's the truth. stay mad you dumb faggot.
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i downloaded nearly all the SMT games without yet knowing anything about the franchise.
might grab the OVAs too.


Digital Hoarder Story.
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>>162525501
Do yourself a favour and check the starter guide to see which avenues of entry are best suited for yourself.
Oh, and I hope you enjoy.
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>>162520830
Maybe this general's enthusiasm with overanalyzing stories and alignments has deluded you. But the mechanics of SMT games are the best things the franchise has going for it; fusing is fun, press-turn battle system is fun, creating different builds for your MC and demons is fun. The combination of all these plus generally great OSTs, good art designs, and what many consider as unique settings is what makes the series so good.

If you want more people to buy and play TMS, maybe you should change the way you discuss it here. You could try to tell others why you like it, what elements make the game good, and why is it worthwhile to try out. Instead of posting endless flamewar-bait, which happens to be the large majority of TMS related posts and part of the reason why the game is so hated.

Unless you don't really care about the game and only use it to shitpost with.
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>>162523449
I played Persona Q and found it pretty boring. Is Etrian significantly different?
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>>162528819
Try not to feel too bad
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>>162523002
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I'm getting back into Devil Survivor, starting from early Day 2. Is there any ending that I should aim for in particular for a first run?
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My freeshop doesn't show up the US DLC for Final
Should I update it or what?
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>>162532759
Naoya's and Kaido's is great, especially in OC
Haru and Gin's is pretty good too
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>>162532759
Amane
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>>162532759
Yuzu's.
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>>162534460
Yes.

>>162534680
No.
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>>162521459
There's actually been more positive mention of its gameplay in this dead general lately.
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>>162521841
Maybe you don't serve a real purpose, fag.
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Where the fuck do I get Tam Lin in Apocalypse
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>>162539541
nvm solved it
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>>162532759
Respond to every route lead positively and you can unlock them all. I like Amane but Naoya and Gin are good too.
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>>162532759
Yuzu is the easiest.
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>>162529374
EO has far better combat mechanics, with varying engines of damage, buff, debuff, and lockdown. Without the corny regen hp/mana or free cost with weaknesses. Try the demos for the games. PQ felt like a bastardization in a lot of ways.

If you were bored by the dungeons rather than the combat though you might not like EO
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>>162527575
I'm more deluded by the fact that people in this thread aren't convinced SMT4 is hot garbage from a gameplay standpoint.

And I talk about the positives of TMS quite a lot.

And 4channers react worse to shilling than shitposting
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Guys, any news on a Devil Summoner PSP translation?
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>>162541789
Then I invite you to keep at it.
I don't doubt the game will get a Switch port, or maybe even a sequel; so the game being seen in a more positive light here and the megaten fanbase in general can be a good thing.

I just have to say that I find it odd. This general managed to warm me up enough to try games like DeSu2 and Persona Q, which had me hesitating at first because they also have their fare share of detractors and criticisms. But when I read people discussing them for what they are and sharing their pros and cons; they interested me enough to try them and enjoy them for what they're worth.
But I rarely see "these" kind of posts regarding TMS; the most common thing I see are simple bragging and shitposts.

Right now I don't feel like going out of my way to postpone other games from my backlog to play it, since I don't have much interest in it, and the way the fanbase shoves it around here doesn't help. But I am not opposed to having more honest and civil discussions about it, because in the long run they can only benefit the quality of the general and potentially win more people over to try it.
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>>162540929
PQ had some incredibly tedious dungeons, but the ones which I considered good: 1st, 2nd and 5th, were pretty enjoyable. If EO is more like those but with better hazards, puzzles and gimmicks then that would be great.
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>>162543064
It seems to be in the same state it was several months ago. In NEVER EVER status.
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>>162543064
5 hours
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What the hell?
I've chosen just about all the chaos choices so far, but somehow, the cynical man says I'm polite.

Does Alignment in SMT4 not change until certain pints?
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>>162548442
Doing sidequests for the Mikado church gets you law points.
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>>162548542
Which side quests grant chaos points?
Hunters?
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>>162544575
There is nothing in my experience with EO EVEN CLOSE to as bad as Inaba Pride Parade. There are some annoying FOE puzzles in 4 but boning close to as irritating as those dungeons. In that regard the dungeon design is stronger.

That said, I think the clock tower stands out proudly even against EO dungeon design, even if the last 30 minutes of it are kinda tedious platform shuffling.
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>>162544248
I doubt the game will get much love. Nintendo does not do much to rescue niche franchises often and the cooperation involved in TMS with Atlus, Nintendo, and the Japanese media companies to make the vocal songs seems like a rare bit of cooperation.

My arguments in its favor are the same as always. The pacing is good, you're quicker into dungeoning in TMS than you are in 4 and 4A. The dungeons stand strong. The combat animations, to me, never got old, but I can understand the complaints in this regard. The slow ramp up of new skills and abilities each chapter was exciting, the game's combat system constantly expanding in meaningful ways as the game progresses. The bosses are some of Atlus's most interesting battle designs. By limiting you to only three actions a turn, the game does a great job of making most tough battles a tug of war to try to fix the enemy's attacks and counter attack as action efficiently as possible, with a bunch of limited recharge special moves keyed toward damage or action efficient heals/buffs. And the random chance duo arts or ad lib special attacks are some of the most satisfying crit effects since "KA-POOOOOOW" in Earthbound, only if you think two cute girls singing to do massive damage as something you can accept in your RPG battles. And the presentation is as "above and beyond" as PQ was.
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>this AI challenge in DeSu2
>suddenly every enemy is level 90
>I'm level 60
Tico pls why is this happening
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Do physical skills scale with the weapon attack power in IV?
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>>162555401
No not at all. Use DEX if you want to use physical skils.
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>>162555501
I know that, I was just wondering about the weapons.
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Is Fog Breath worth using in IV?
Seems like even with +3/-3 kaja and kund I'm still getting hit most of the time, and I'd rather save the MP if it won't make a difference
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Hoy.
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>>162553443
It's the bonus boss. If you can win, the final boss will be pretty underwhelming.
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>>162558254
Can't speak in terms of numbers. The differences are minor, but given press turn is full retard about misses and very few bosses can survive three turns in 4, having a crucial miss on the enemy team is huge.

I think a lot of late game bosses have remove debuffs or reset all buffs though so it doesn't become the buff tug of war that 4A is but I still think action efficiency is worth the mana cost for debuffs.

>>162563896
Ah thanks. I guess I'm supposed to come back on NG+ but you can't carry over levels can you?
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>Just finished homework from last week
>Finals this week, but I wanna study to ensure I at least stay afloat
>Feel the anxiety and getting lightheaded
>watch some TV & clean my room to get my mind off

How's your day, /smtg/
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Hoy.
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>>162568102
Hoy there.
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>>162564464
You can carry over your demons, and they'll do a significant chunk of the work.
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SMTV when?
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>>162558254

Sukukaja/kunda spells are fucking useless in both IV and Apocalypse, they were only ever useful in Nocturne.
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Anybody has the burroughs sound files ?

I'm looking for the one that says "hey master I have a message for you "
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>>162572634
It was delayed until April.
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Hoy.
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How was your day /smtg/? it's winter chaos over here so im extra comfy with drawing and some hot cocoa as I watch people slip on snow and ice. Are you cozy tonight? Here, take this drawing of Jack and Nanashi my bro drew, I just helped him with the text and lines.
Smirking and non smirk: http://imgur.com/a/66DPm
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>>162577121
Any chance of a 'Let's HEE dat HO!' edit
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>>162577979
I got chu. I forgot to save that one.
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>>162578685
Das it mane
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>>162564783
I don't know why I laughed so hard at that image. God damn.
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>>162577979
I have the demifiend one.
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>>162578685
Thank you, friend.

I shall use this in other threads for shitposting purposes.
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>>162580258
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When will anyone ever make a Strange Journey wad for Doom? More importantly why hasn't one already been made a long time ago?
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>>162580618
There was one planned by an Anon, dunno what happened to him.
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Will Atlus ever be able to top this game? Why is the music so good?
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How the fuck do i unlock the quest for Izanami in Apocalypse?
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>>162581514
start by getting a better waifu :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSuk_T-QD-M

Sounds like something Vektroid would make
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>SMT5 is for the PS4 and uses P5's engine
>they keep going down 4/Apocalypse's road and make the storytelling more mainstream and accessible with lots of voiced cut-scenes in order to appeal to mainstream JRPG audiences
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>>162582660
as long as the gameplay is still fun
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>>162583520
Until they start dumbing that down too
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yoH
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Raidou 3 when?
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>>162582660
IV was pretty minimalistic, I kinda liked it because of how open to interpretation it was, and it encouraged me to explore to learn more about the world. But it is also part of the reason why the alignment split feels so forced and hamfisted.

IV:A though, I really wish we don't get anything more like it. Even DeSu2 and P4 felt more tolerable than the story and characters from IV:A. Which is a shame because the gameplay is godly, and the affinities are an excellent new mechanic.
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What kind of idiot get possessed by the demon he summons?
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Why is Black Frost such dogshit in Apocalypse?
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>>162589019
I feel like you also get him in a part where you can make tons of special fusions, and he is outranked by Frost Ace almost instantly.

Black Frost is great in many other games, so maybe they wanted to give the spotlight to other demons. I guess you can't win every battle.
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>>162582660
I'll take dumbed down over the shit we got in 4 and 4A. "Hey guys this ending? lol you're killing everyone. Oh and it's a total lie too if you just read this companion mango not addressed by anyone in the game which just proves everything you did will fall apart in about a week." And if Record Scratch had just been an angry laughing yellow man who wants to watch humanity suffer, it would make more sense than "woe I am undone by 15 year olds throwing fedoras at me."

>>162587515
I even liked TMS's plot better but it's a goofy comedy so it's trying for different things.

But yeah, for all their pandering, stuff like P4, DeSu2, PQ all felt like they had stronger narratives and less annoying friendships. I don't know if Atlus felt hamstrung because they had to write friends that weren't friendly enough that you would feel bad about going full edge killing them.
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>>162589019
It isn't Midori's black frost of justice this time so hee-ho isn't good at anytheeng-ho.
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>>162581228
Games aren't allowed to be as fun as Soul Hackers any more.

>>162581514
Keep doing side quests and leveling up.
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>>162590248
you alignment differs from mine
prepare yourself to die
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>>162591093
BRING IT
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>>162590248
I want to believe the way IV:A turned out was because the new team was given more freedom to do their own thing without too much supervision.

But I don't feel totally despaired yet. Other ATLUS games have delivered a solid story and experience and IV only needed to find its own identity to break out of the formula and improve.
IV:A really wasn't the answer, but it can also be faulted with the fact that they had to make a direct sequel that interrupts the main campaign of the first game to even exist.

But the Japs really need to do some more research with important demons like Lucifer and YHVH; because they feel more like cartoon villains rather than the immortal and omnipotent entities that they are in religious lore.
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>>162590248
The mangas are AUs of the same world shpwing things not pointed out in IV directly, just like IVA left out a ton of stuff from IV.

Like Walter is born with the demon gene, Flynn was never born, and Tamagami's experiment Gina teleported TO THE FUTURE and lived in the fishing village with Walter.

And don't get started on -Prayers-.

Also this stuff is pretty normal and tame compared to other Japanese media that does the same shit. Like Type-Moon.

You also see it in action rqther than be told it too, which helps.
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>>162581228
Creatively they were on a fucking roll when making the Debisama series, including Raidou.

They made likeable characters with personality rather than just alignment reps, they wrote a nice and unique story, and they put all that inside an SMT setting with improved classic gameplay (at least with DS and SH).

Just by looking at the concept art and walking in the dungeons of DS/SH, it hit home that I was looking at a game with a style that is rare to find in a JRPG, or even videogames in general.
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>>162592347
Kaneko needs to come back from the flower field to get directly involved with SMT again. It ain't a coincidence that the last good SMT we had was Strange Journey and was the last game he was directly in charge of.
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>>162590248
P4s was literally the epitome of cocksucking and it got worse with spinoffs. Just look at how those dukb bitches would rather love Yus cock than accept than he 8-timed them. Especially Miss Expobot Naoto.

P4U even managed to do a super shitty Edgy manchild who had been in Inaba all along but no one sqw a kid with an X-Scar with red hair around. And one of the writers was an Adachifag.
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>>162593006
Kaneko had more influence than you think on IV. It was IVA where they let the newbies do their own thing.

Besides at the rate Kaneko's been going over the years he'd spit out 20 designs per game at best, and most likely wouldn't even be demons.
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>>162593307
I heard that all he did during IV was supervise the art or something
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>>162592347
It clumsily tried to rewrite 4 in a way such that YHVH is behind everything despite none of it actually benefiting him.

Japs are religiously retarded though. They're never going to get that part right.

That said, God by definition is singular, omnipotent, omniscient, source of all existence, law, good, what have you, because He literally made it all and stands outside it.

Which is INCREDIBLY tough to write a game about, sadly, so if you want God in your game you're probably going to turn Him into a god like Zeus rather than the God concept. The idea of edgekid killing God as properly defined is like Voldemort killing J.K. Rowling. This is horrible for a vidya. You HAVE to change it.

And if you're changing that much, you may as well change some more up. The vidya YHVH can't be the creator of all because, hey, the Great Will/Axiom sits above him, things can act on him in this universe. But at least he can be a fitting final boss, actor in your play, etc.

tl;dr: you can't put God into SMT accurately cuz God sits above.
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Is there one of these for SMT1, SMT2, Strange Journey, MIP, and Persona 2?
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>>162593492
Do you have the title for those threads? I wish to go over them as they where very fun to watch.
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>>162593492
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>>162593652
Sorry I don't.
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>>162593083
Yeah, but that's appropriate for the genre. If you want bitches not on your cock, you can't make a nostalgia school life sim. Japs aren't gonna pay for a school life without beautiful charming women they can date because that's ALREADY their awful real life.

Jokes aside though, you really can't betray the school life genre though. The dick sucking is surely blatant, and the bros ought to have been less desexed, but you still are going to get your dick sucked in this sort of game.

The Valentine's Day Massacre kinda had to go without penalty because the nips would flip their lids if you gave them a real social link gameplay penalty for two-timing.

I haven't done P4U yet. Is it that bad?

>>162592916
Only played Soul Hackers but if the rest of Debisama is as just raucous fun as Soul Hackers I would love it.
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>>162593364
He wrote the story draft and oversaw ideas for dungeons, locations, etc. They even mentioned he was pretty lax and let them do their own thing that may not be considered SMY to an extent.

And he's also a fan of Sentaishit, which he based the DDS demons on.

>>162593382
That's why I said don't get me started on -Prayers- anon. Hugos evil plan was the entire goal of the former Fallen Angel after he became an angel again. God's Will.

Plus the point wasn't YHVH was behind literally everything, but that he set things up from the very beginning to play out in ways that will always be a victory for him. He's the Creator of IV's Universe so he wrote the rules.

YHVH's always been a Demiurgesque figure because the universe always revived him, he's not even the God of DDS, DeSu2, or Devil Children, and things don't go his way so hard in DeSu Yuzu and Majin Tensei he fucks off forever.

YHVH was a moustache twirling monster since Megami Tensei II and only fools thought otherwise.
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>mfw Isabeau was reading Rose of Versailles and is gonna be a mango snob and will turn full demon gene the second she sees a 15 year old kid reading Narutos
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>>162593841
Then P5 does the opposite and has all the gals beat Akira Fudou's shit in.
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>>162594240
>oversaw ideas for dungeons, locations
He must not have been overseeing very closely. Some of those 4 dungeons suuuuucked.

>>162594352
That's badass but I think it doesn't impact you link-wise either. The Valentine's Day Massacre on P4 was there to make you feel like absolute shit. (And it failed because it was hilarious but still...)
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>>162592347
>>162593382
>t. christcucks
stop being imbeciles that only can think in your shitty judeocristian religions
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>>162594439
stay mad nigger my religion is right and yours is gay and wrong except in ways where it obliquely brushes up against the truth of mine

except if yours is atheism then your just a fag and gay and wrong
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>>162594552
i am the last manichean.
What are you going to do bitchboy? huh? HUH?
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>>162594240
>he set things up from the very beginning to play out in ways that will always be a victory for him
He should have checked his math.

I'm in favor of the mustache twirling monster. I think an insane mad god is a perfectly fine enemy. But in 4A he just comes off as a weird, autistic sorta douchebag who can't outlie a bunch of 15 year old fedora kids.

And DeSu is a different continuity senpai. Different rules. Hell, in DeSu1, you can cooperate with him and he actually has goals that you both can reach together that benefit you both. Or if you just do what he says and not side with him, he'll keep his end of the bargain.

In 4 and 4A, there's not even a chance of that. Different characters, different continuities. I can't say different universes cuz gods can hop universes.
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>>162595000
I will start by doing an infogalactic search on manichean and quickly skim until I find an appropriate way to >imply the shit out of your lousy religion.
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>>162592916
>Just by looking at the concept art and walking in the dungeons of DS/SH, it hit home that I was looking at a game with a style that is rare to find in a JRPG, or even videogames in general.
Soul Hackers was pretty much vaporwave before it had a name. I really wish I could play the first game, I don't think my Japanese is up to snuff
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>>162594439
I'm not a buttmad religiousfag, I don't even like lawfags, but the way IV and IV:A portray Lucifer and YHVH is pitiful and absolutely wasted potential.
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>>162592347
>>162593382
>>162594552
Isn't it fine because god is fictional anyway?
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>>162594439
>>162595284
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>>162595128
>>162595000
alright best I got is
>gnosticism
>the worst Christianity fanfic
sorry I'm too busy to properly shitpost back you win this round.
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>>162595463
>that dramatic zoom
good grief.
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>>162595463
They really should do more Lovecraftian stuff though. It's more interesting than the bland God vs Lucifer stuff.

Fedora tippers are cancer.
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>Come, let us teach Canopus the true meaning of being alive!
And very quickly after teach him the meaning of being dead.

Man, he went down like a bitch but I guess with that many ridiculous phases it isn't that bad but Polaris was still tougher.
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At least I know deep down in my heart, that the memes born from IV and IV:A are some of the finest.
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>>162595698
Lovecraft is fedora-tier anon.
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>>162595829
Do you get to fuse her with a Pixie?
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Daichi's dub voice actor deserves a medal.
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>>162595020
He set things up with the most favorable outcomes. IVs endings with the exception of White gave him a 75% chance or staying in power and more people are likely to pick those over the White so its even higher. NPCs numerous times on Neutral tell you Neutral is a breeding ground for Lawdrones and people on Chaos ending will be so desperate they'll gobble up his shit. That's just how things are.

IVA only had two endings where he gets subverted, and he hid himself from humans because even the weakest or stupidest arguments would butcher his divine shell.

Massace Nanashi only ever says he denies his shit and that alone was enough to demonize him.

And I brought up Desu in relation of MAJIN Tensei which do have routes(Backstory in MT) where YHVH gets fed up and leaves. The only difference is YHVH is a spiteful moustache twirler in Majin Tensei and left Satan + Angels to kill everyone using demonkind. Fucking Uriel actually turned good in that game.
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>>162595717
You do steal his power afterall. Also despite his lower level he has more stats than her.
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>>162595969
Yeah, but since they have huge level gaps, the result will always be shit.

It's better to just let her evolve on her own.
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>>162596269
Should mention Dog is male in first three forms.
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>>162595968
Does that mean Lucifer vs God stuff is on the same tier as people who still make Arrow to the Knee and Over 9000 memes?
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>fusion error
>last save was two hours away
Fugg I forgot this could happen
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>>162596405
Lucifervs. Lawfaggotry should be the natural order of things. Don't need YHVH to exist for him to oppose psycho angels.
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>>162596405
Kinda, but the memes are hundreds of years old.
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>>162596452
Same thing happened to me in my first playthrough of IVA. I should of known, but after 3 years of not playing SMT I completely forgot about it's RNG and new parameters to make accidents happen more often.

My poor healer/mag Mahamayuri turned into phys Rama and didn't even get Maha's mana surge to at least help him a little bit with all of the high MP skills, what a disaster.
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How angry were you guys when you found out the fate of SMTxFE?
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>>162596980
I was going to summon Pallas Athena but I got Orochi instead
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>>162597176
i had never played a FE game in my entire life, nor do i care for nintendo.
So i feel nothing
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>>162597176
I was happy with how it turned out.
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>>162597584
Wow, you're trash
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>>162597176
Didn't let me have Demi-Fiend or Ike as my mirage partner so no.
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>>162597176
I went into mad overdrive.

But then I let go and stopped caring about it altogether.
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>>162597647
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>>162597176
It hurts. I wouldnt mind a strategic FE styled game with SMT characters and demons only if you can A or S relationship rank some demon waifus/husbandos for maximum eugenics simulator but with how FE:Fates came out and the crossover bombed in sales, I think SMT dodged a bullet.
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virgen de guadalupe in SMT when
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>>162598101
that's called DeSu though.

No fucking demons that's degenerate.
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Best level
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>>162598487
I want to touch Zelenin's butt
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You know DeSu2 never ONCE bothered to explain who possessed Fumi and why.
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>>162595698
That would be awesome I'd like to see a Shoggoth
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>>162598263
Heres my wallpaper of glorious Black Maria 4u
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>>162597176
Didn't surprise me one bit, this is from the company who forces developers to censor a fucking sword in a Dragon Ball game. Nu-tendo is irredeemable garbage. Just like how Atlus couldn't release the old games because of Nintendo, they were probably scared about having religious themes being connected with their Waifu Emblem games.
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>>162597176
Not so much angry as I was disappointed. Was really hoping for an actual crossover with more characters (and demons) from both games showing up, and maybe even bringing old characters back. The wide variety of demons in the megaten series is one of the most appealing things to me, so I was sad to see the demons in TMS were basically just cameos and nothing more.
The fact that the characters actually in the game are stale as fuck and hardly more than generic anime caricatures is just icing on the disaster cake.
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>>162597176
I like Persona and SMT and EO and all sorts of RPGs.

So the end result didn't matter to me so much as it was fun.

And a lancer turning into a motorbike knight ridden by a sentai hero is just cool as fuck.

Or a fucking jet engine pegasus
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>>162599537
Also it was pretty obvious Nintendo just wanted a Persona clone but didn't want to use the Persona name in any of their official materials because every single mainline game has been on a Sony console. Honestly it's probably better this way, can you imagine the kind of censorship Nintendo would have pulled if it was a real SMT crossover game? I can already picture them drawing black bars all over Kaneko's designs.
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>>162600086
all colorful RPGs aren't persona.
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>>162600357
Well it sure as hell isn't SMT you fucking tard. And where did I even say that?

Nintendo just wanted the P4 normiebucks. Pretty fucking evident.
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>>162481719
Maybe Allah the moon god, best prophet at no time
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>>162600357
Don't know how you defend that dogshit company either, if any other company was as patronizing to their fans as Neo Nintendo is they would be out of business within a year.
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>>162600357
They wish they were, though.
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>>162601050
I would say because it's easier to have 80 hours of talking and just 6 hours of dungeon gameplay but Persona didn't even have fucking dungeons lol
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>>162601167
Amazing how 20 years later and this is still the best Persona game
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>>162600934
I dunno, Sony gets away with fucking 8 hour day 1 vidya patch download times and also making the Vita. And how the fuck is Microsoft competition for either of them?

Nintendo is retarded but they just gotta outrun the competition, and the company that gave us NSMBU, Dong Freeze, Pikmin 3, TW101, Bayo2, not even counting the 3DS's lineup, has their place in the gen pretty secure.
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>>162601496
Best Persona MC
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>>162601851
>NSMBU, Dong Freeze, Pikmin 3, TW101, Bayo2
WOAH
IS FUCKING NOTHING
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>>162602226
>(you)
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>>162598487

All the little details in this image are great.
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>>162601851
>Vita is bad meme
>optional patches
>proceeds to list a bunch of children's shovelware

Wii U barely outsold the Vita by the way, cool /nintyg/ memes tho
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>>162603184
>childrens shovelware
>in a thread for a game series aimed at nip teenagers
anon i
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>>162603370
what is strange journey you slow in the minds
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>>162603184
>>162601851
>>162602226
>>162600934
>>162603370

Hey guys, keep your console war garbage in /v/. This thread's for Megaten discussion and bantz.

Seriously, cut the crap.
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>>162601496
>>162601918
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>>162603819
>>162601496
Uh, I think something's wrong with one of his eyes.
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>>162603819
aesthetic as fuck
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>>162603819
That's a dank ass watch
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>>162603819
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Anyone have some Nocturne wallpapers?
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I am the only one that liked P1-2 negotiations?
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>>162603738
Except this post >>162600934 directly pertains to the discussion

Sorry if it hurts your feelings but people are allowed to voice their opinions about censorship and how it can directly impact the series
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>>162607332
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>>162607332
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>it's a you forget to have strengths to force attacks and get fucked by them episode
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I DON'T WANNA TRY TO FIGHT THIS LOVE!
Tips for Skellyman fight in the Maribel/Mick part?
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>>162608471
Aren't they weak either earth or force? One of the two.
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>>162607332
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>>162609269
Don't know man, I got wiped out in one attack when Skellington arrived and lost confidence.

So you think grind Argilla's Mantra for Matera?
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>>162609989
You should definitely have basic maspells by that point.
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>>162600086
>>162600934
>>162607545
Well, I'd be less inclined to believe that you are a shitposter if you brought up the fact that the decision to make SMTxFE idolshit was a decision that Atlus made. In various interviews it is stated that Nintendo gave them free reign to do whatever the hell they wanted. The way the game turned out is entirely on them. So let's focus the discussion on the people that actually make the games instead of your boogyman.
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>>162610263
I have Mabufu at least, but I'm try to get Media for Argilla right now.

They're also very expensive and take a very long time to level up, even moreso for Not-Serph characters.
50,000 is way too much dammit.
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>>162610950
If you sell your solar cells at maximum solar noise you get more cash. Only in the first game though. There is an exception, the Jack cell which you sell at minimum noise.
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>>162609464
>1000x707
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>>162611047
>solar cells
You mean like Active Cells and stuff? They seem to be fairly rare.

>maximum solar noise
That's basically Full Kagutsutchi/Full Moon, right?

I just want AP Divide and Iron Stomach to presumably make getting skills easier..
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>>162610387
Just like Bandai Namco just so happened to censor a fucking sword in Dragon Ball Fusions right? Funny how this shit seems to always happen with Nintendo
>if they have any complaint about Nintendo ever they're a shitposter!!!

Ok kid
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>>162610387
I forgot Atlus were so well known for putting their characters in burkas, can't show any skin in these games children might be playing!
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Give me 9000 Macca right now.
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>>162618289
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>>162618957
You really know how to piss a guy off.
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Macca beam
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What's your opinion on the original SNES SMT?

I'm currently just started playing through it and the encounter rate is so god damn ridiculous. Nonetheless, It's pretty fun and I like the aesthetics of it.

Where the hell can I find a place to heal in Shinjuku?
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>>162628840
THere's like three in BF1
Check near the stairs

Unless you mean you are in one of the towers
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what's the go with builds in Apocalypse?

Is strength still useless like in IV? I think I did 3 dex and 2 ag in IV, is that still going to work here?
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>>162633610
STR feeds Phys. DEX feeds gun. As it should have been. Any build is viable. Never seen someone skip luck though.
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>>162628840
fun but after a break and coming back I got lost on where to go
old rpgs without quest markers aren't for me
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SMT x Fate
servants are interchangeable with demons
SMT x Homestuck
aspects are used instead of the normal types
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>>162636301
>Homestuck
Go back to tumblr.
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Would you?
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>>162607416
I liked the amount of variety it had compared to mainline, especially in P2, but I hated how the card system worked in that game. It just felt really grindy compared to how it was in P1.
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>Saiduq's ending on triangulum arc
Nanashi should learn how to make better friends with bunny I actually teared up
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Hey fags, are you ready for female protagonist fighting with her legs in SMTV?
http://personacentral.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv-producer-comments-plans-2017/
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>>162640654
I hope they don't repeat Apocalypse's story and shit on Law and Chaos again.
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>>162624113
Delete this.
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>>162640654
Wow, 25th anniversary
Wonder what they've got
Hopefully its only or mostly catering to the SMT fans.
Maybe it'll be like Pokemon's 20th with creating merch & stuff
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>No SMT spin-off where you are forced to climb a gigantic dungeon tower a la MT1 or SMT:IF
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>>162643920
>In January 2016, Yamai teased a long and difficult journey, intensely developing a game that they hope will surprise fans.

http://personacentral.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv-final-producer-teases-next-project/
>What are we going to do next, you ask? Well, here at ATLUS, we believe in surprising our audiences with different experiences. Our next venture will be a difficult one, and it may also be very long, but the entire staff is dedicated to doing our best so that they won’t betray the players’ expectations. We want to make a game that will surprise fans and make them think “Wow, this is a game I’ve wanted to play.” But first, we would like to take a break during the holiday season before we begin work on this next project.

Oh shit, I didn't know about this interview; and it basically announces that a new game will start production in January 2017.

I'm looking forward to a new megaten game and another wild ride with you guys.
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>>162644778
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>>162305538
I wanna fuck Nakajima.
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>>162645116
They've probably already begun the prepwork for the next game. I mean, FINAL came out in February this year, meaning that it's been 10 months since it went gold, so they've probably already got some concepts down for their new game.
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>>162645273
>Tower you have to stop climbing every 25 minutes because somebody got tired
>Randomly generated with no traps/puzzles
>Every segment is just another set of ugly patterns and crystal shapes
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does anyone still have the links to the hex editting guide for SMTIVA?
finally got to CFW my 3ds recently
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>>162645357
hope so. Just hope they'll tone down on the dumb shit in the next one. I haven't seen what they did yet on final, but just from what you guys said it seems like a really dumb way to resolve all the problems with FRIENDSHIP
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>>162646104
I think this explains a lot of things.

SMTIV was not perfect, sure, but I preferred how it handled the characters, world and story compared to Apocalypse.
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>>162638667
Daichi's VA is the hero of DeSu2

Joe stammering about the hole in his jacket he can't fix in Septentrione was also a top notch scene though
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>>162647504
dumb question
But what does a video game director do
Are they like the boss for the projects they make, and are they the ones that approve the story for said projects.

Because from what I'm understanding, it seems that Ohyama directed and approved the stuff for 4A and didn't bother to look back at it if it made sense.
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>>162645116
Come on TMS 2

Or Catherine 2
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>>162646104
>Oh shit we wrote our big bad to be so strong it is literally against the laws of the universe for them to ever win. What do we do?
>We can have arguments over how to make a new universe then
>Bah we did that in DeSu2. Let's do friendship this time. Friendship vs no friendship
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>>162648272
>TMS 2
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>>162647504
SMT4 got away with not explaining things. Anything worth thinking about in 4A is just autism about which illogical magic is the right way to fix 4's shitty universe. 4 just hopped from one mystery to the next dropping it instantly once it led you to someone who would ignore the mystery and just give you more irrelevant shit to ponder.

The only way it's better than 4A is that it didn't cause cringe. And Mikado was more prominent.
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>>162648989
SMT needs to go back to barebones stories like SMT1. If you want more character interaction, just do something like SMTIF where the route you pick determines which characters you end up with.
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>>162649153
EO rules the minimalist state space and even then Atlus wrote two awful plots before finally writing minimal plots worth a damn. You can fuck up as bad as Atlus even without many words.

Still yes, autistic explanations of their crappy theology just reveals how crappy the world is. Leave it a mystery. Focus on the big ideas in the fewest words. That would be a step in the right direction.
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>>162304992
When will we get a feMC with which you can cuck the other SMTs Megamis?
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>>162645116
Fuck mainline give us more soul hackers you faggots.

Press Turn is gay and for casuals.

Nemissa in the P5 engine make it happen
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>>162648989
I would have seriously loved it if they just dropped Tokyo from 4 altogether.

Make it a spinoff while you're at it, since the spergs wouldn't be able to handle SMT not being in Tokyo.

The cyberpunk got me into it, but ATLUS should consider making a medieval spinoff already.
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>>162649836
But anon, Soul Hackers 2, which technically would be Devil Summoner 3, which technically already exists as a mobile game, cannot be what you want because Nemissa is kill.
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>>162645116
Wow ANOTHER persona? We haven't even gotten 5 yet an they're already churning out P6? Hell yes.
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>>162650318
Yamai doesn't work at Persona, you silly.

Besides, the next Persona game will be Persona 5 Arena.
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Why is Apocalypse so easy? I mean I'm dying sometimes, but I'm never like under stress like I was with other SMT games. If I die it's usually because I couldn't be bothered not because I didn't have options to save myself.
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>>162650665
He does now. That's why it's a challenge.
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>>162653943
Because crit smirk wipe isn't a thing any more and that was the sole danger in 4?

Because it's less random in general?

The only comparison points are nocturne and 4 anyway.
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>>162654357
Or maybe it's because you're gay
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Hoy.
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>>162656873
hi whats up
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>>162663252
Make sure you bring more Hoys next time.
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Hoy.
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*record scratch*'s universe is so devoid of fun I think I actually can't have fun ever again.
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>>162654425
savage
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>>162668271
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> boss weak to force
> just replaced my only force attack for a poison attack thinking maybe a boss would be weak to poison
damn I'm dumb
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>>162671991
nvm I can just delete the demon and then buy it from the book
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>wake up
>no hot demon wife
i am getting tired of this
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>finish both routes in Apocalypse
>try to go back to IV after dropping it once
>couldn't last 10 minutes
How did you people enjoy this garbage? I legitimately cannot comprehend it.
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UNCLEAN
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Chaosfags are sleeping. Heralds, awaken!
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>>162678409
Fuck off Betatron.
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>>162678409
Best Herald.
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>>162654425
#wrekt

>>162668271
>>162677251
These are feels I know well.
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>>162677251
Take law end next play. Problem solved.
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>other SMT fan site board are stuffed with fags who think 4A is a clever takedown of Christianity
/smtg/ is the only good SMT fandom I'd rather have persona niggers than fedoras
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>>162645116
Tokyo Mirage session 2: electric boogalo
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dagda was right, you know.
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>>162683905
Demikids 3 and the Thunder Dome
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>>162677426
SULLIES THE WORLD
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>>162677251
Get better taste. Problem solved.
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SMT x Welcome to the NHK when
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>>162687783
Nah fuck off. Original IV's gameplay is objectively fit.
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>>162677251
gambling addiction
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death comes to humans and general alike
all by the guidance of the great will
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>>162679751
http://eye.swfchan.com/flash.asp?id=137196&n=Everyones+Dancing+Furiously.swf
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>>162689895
>not loving rng smirk wipes or the unending opening yo-yoing up and down Naraku
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wow Krishna is pretty obnoxious
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>>162697614
Just like every other god and demon and your useless partners

The only solution is to kill them all
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>>162668271
Did you expect anything else from THE LAW?
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so im about to start with the SMTs, devil survivor and raidou games, i just only played personas games and since i want to start from the beggining, i guess i should play the SNES version with a fantranslation, which emulator do you guys recommend?
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>>162700850
Snes9x
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>>162701429
ty senpai

timeto start smt1
>>
JUDGEMENT
HAS COME
TO YOU
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>>162697614
Alice is immune to ailments and strong in dark, but if you haven't carried her all game she's not at the right level.
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>>162700850
bsnes accuracy with retroarch
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>>162695884
>Shaddai
Fucking lost it.
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>>162701429
>>162701703
>SNES9X
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>>162704923
Sex9x
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>>162701429
>>162704923
>>162705008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt2uyDqbA-Q
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>>162704791
I wish more SMT fans knew about that game. It's fun.
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>>162705318
What the hell am I watching?
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>>162705556
Snes9x
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>>162705805
Snes9x
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>faggots still crying "waah friendship and a happy ending in muh SMT?"
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>>162700850
Play the iOS version if you can.
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Thank you Gaston
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>>162707209
>they bitch about the bonds route
>they go bonds instead of massacre because they're casual shits that can't handle it

They get what they deserve.
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>>162708693
I don't want an edgy route. I want a route where different characters go their own seperate paths and fight eachother on equal terms with no regrets.
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>>162708812
That already happened in SMTIV, this is just a follow up on that.
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>>162708812
That was DeSu2.
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>>162709692
That's every game but IVA.
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>>162707209
I thought it was good. There needs to be more of it in SMT.

>>162708812
>equal terms
>Hotsuin faglord going full Super Saiyan
fuck that shitter
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>>162709765
>Not creating a meritocracy
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>>162710018
>killing ronaldo the hot-blooded hero of justice
no u
>>
Hoy
>>
how is SMT IV? Worth buying or nah?
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>>162713195
Do it for her.
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>>162713481
Isabeau is so shit not even Sawashiro could save her. Worst girl by far.
>>
>>162713481
I guess...but all the reviews I've read and opinions I've heard say that she is the worst girl, anon
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>>162713692
>>162713585
Lies spread by Nemissafags.
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>>162713746
Nemissa is shit too.
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>>162713791
wow chill out there bud
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>>162714005
Discount Argilla.
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Look at this fucking ugly whore. Nothing makes me angrier than this literally copy pasted Io wanna-be. Fucking hack Doi probably saw the sexy and perfect Io and tried to copy her in his pathetic and tactless style. Look how stupid this dumb bitch looks. I hate everything about her. Her stupid monkey hair, her stupid samuraigirl shit. Her stupid manga thing. Her stupid indecisive weeaboo personality. She does nothing but wait on the MC's beck and call like a little cock obsessed monkey. She has no depth to her, unlike Io who is literally perfection. The true heroine of the game, the incorruptible. Chosing sacrificing herself to defeat the septentrion. Isabeau couldn't make a choice like that because she's too much of a timid dumb little bitch. If Flynn hadn't suggested the neutral route there's no way in hell this little pussy would have spoken up for shit, and her somehow surviving so long in the story and dying the way she did in the other routes is laughable. Someone like her wouldn't last 5 minutes in the DeSu world. Meanwhile Io was already READY to be a Jips agent. Her phone was a Summoning device and she already had the skills needed to survive in the cruel world that is Japan. No bitching, no whining, no crying about how much of a indecisive bitch she is while the rest of the world went to hell. She got she done, and in the CANON path she helped save the fucking world and free it from Mizar and the septentriones. That means something, and you know what? She's back again in Record Breaker. Meanwhile Isabeau's story ends with a bunch of fucking losers on the hands of a fuccboi sucking his dick because they're all faggots.
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>>162713195
It's pretty bad but not unplayable.
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>>162714121
I want to inspect her hairy monkey snatch for the presence of lice.
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>>162713585
>Sawashiro
>not destroying characters with her atrocious voice
top kek she's specially bad when trying to sound cute
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If we could have a SMT game that took place in the U.S. what would the best place be for one?
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>>162715578
Oregon.
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>>162596064
>Massace Nanashi only ever says he denies his shit and that alone was enough to demonize him.
To be fair, Massacre Nanashi also thinned the herd of people who could wish for YHVH.
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>>162715663
That just made me think of a cross over for Oregon Trail and SMT
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>>162715916
>Crit smirk Dysentery
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Reminder that our messiah Yamai wanted SMT IV to be set in Israel
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>>162716978
Cool.


Also is there an image dump of all the P5 demons?
I want to see all the HD models of the classic demons.
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>>162715663
>>162715916
>>162716452
>>
SMT x Ys
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>>162721118
Persona x JoJo Heritage for the Future Ultimax
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>>162716978
that would have been dope af
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>>162695884
lulz
>>
I really hope the trend of depicting all endings as neutral that seems to be going on with desu2 and final doesn't keep up. I'm okay with them breaking the law vs chaos mold, but if you're going to break it just break it and do something else. Don't keep it but forcibly make the player have to see their alleged free choices all be depicted a vertain way.
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>>162729334
However we do need more endings ackwoledging communism as the garbage ideology it is
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>>162715578
>>162715663
But that's DDS. You walk through Portland in DDS2.
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>>162593382
That's not the reason yhvh comes off shittily in iva though. Obviously in a polytheistic world it has to turn out that despite everything he's not quite a monotheistic god, but has some kind of nature that lets him pass himself off as more or less one. The problem is that they also make him come off borderline retarded, desperately afraid of humans, and jerk off humanity so much that in the end its simply not believable that he is in charge in the first place, and you struggle to even see him as meaningfully the entity depicted.

Sure, make him evil. But don't make him borderline retarded. Him being behind a plot to make angels and fallen angels fight eachother for whatever reason implies cunning that the character is never implied to even have. Make him less lacking in self awareness. Make him entirely aware of his own position, but still just so arrogant that in his previous life as a polytheistic god he just decided he'd invent monotheism. And make him come off more like a transcendent being. For some reason satan comes off like one, but yhvh doesn't.
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Who's the best demon in the franchise?
>>
New tread?
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>>162732889
We still have like 100 posts nigga
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>>162732889
It is not time for a new world yet.
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>>162732171
Nekomata
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What did you lads summon for the full moon last night?
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>>162735672
A pepperoni pizza
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freedom freedom freedom
hoy
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>>162739190
Slap her tits
>>
These SMT crossovers are cool and all, but what about
ATLUS VS CAPCOM
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>>162730885
That's almost exactly what I wanted to say and failed. Thanks.

I would also say he has no motive that could really match his actions.
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>>162729334
Japs aren't on the Baldurs Gate fallout deus ex train of muh choices sadly.

To be honest, I don't care much about the varied endings just because I ain't replaying these games for 39 hours to get 45 minutes of slightly different dialogue.

I'd be fine with cutting down the " lol u got troled fricken moron" endings
>>
>>162304587
Just turned on nocturne again and i'm at Noah at level 68. What's a good demon/party to craft to kill the cunt? I don't have one good magic oriented demon
>>
>>162741945
I'd play it
As MvC3 or the MvC1 2.0
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>>162741945
>tfw dante will never be in another smt game

feels bad
>>
Mamudo
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>>162749337
Let me die.

Bury me next to /eog/
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>>162744487
bump
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>>162749482
Whatever demon from the megami race that is closest to your level.
Black Frost is cool too.
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>>162749337
null dark
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Hoy.
>>
Asahi a shit
>>
>>162741945
>ATLUS side

>sword user
>sword user
>sword and guns user
>sword and guns user
>sword user
>they're all twinks with long hair and girly faces

This roster is botched.
>>
As I learn Japanese I certainly want to get through the untranslated Megaten games but at the same time I wonder, should I go an replay some of the ones I've already beaten in English? I could easily make an excuse for Nocturne if I play the version with Raidou but other ones like P3 and P4 would be the same but just in Japanese. If any of you have played them in both languages, would you say it's worth it?
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/vg/ is undergoing a minor shitstorm.

Stay strong and don't die /smtg/.
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Die for me!
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>>162762157
The Die for me! animation in P5 makes me want to die.
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So how do Fiend drops work in Apocalypse? Do I have to save scum to get unique equipment on the first run or do I have to keep going through twisted Tokyo?

Fuck, this game doesn't even feel like a true SMT, it's just a Persona game in disguise.
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>>162764001
The unique gear from the second or third run through Twisted Tokyo, I forgot which. The more runs you do, the more drops they give so it gets easier to get what you want eventually(except for specific affinity boosting items, those seem random as fuck).
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>>162762297
How bad is it?
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>>162772205
It's just shitty and underwhelming.

Alice drops tons of teddie bears and dolls with bombs on them.
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>>162776383
Where is IVA's protag?
>>
>>162764001
It's pretty SMT to me.
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>>162776383
What does any of this mean?
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>>162776704
sounds like persona. I like the black blood thing recent mainline has going on.
>>
>>162779132
That's not how /smtg/ works. We just post random offbeat charts and observations and hrrm and harrumph about how deep they are.
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>>162781038
or we post maps and collectively fap to them
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>>162776383
>tatsuya
>rewarded

I guess a ruined city floating in space is a reward.
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It's kind of funny how all the characters gives Navarre shit in IV:A for being useless when he seems to be by far the best Partner character for fights that matter.
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>>162764001
>no hours of talking gameplay balancing social links
>almost as fast to the dungeoning as TMS or EO
>persona
Is Persona just a buzzword for "i dont like"?
>>
>>162782274
In that game, he's seeking redemption for what he's done or something like that
>>
>>162782274
He also does the best battle lines.

>NAVARRE HAS ARRIVED
>YOU'RE IN GOOD HANDS!
>>
>>162782896
>ITS NAVARRE TIME
>ON TO NEW HEIGHTS

>>162782274
He's the best bro in the game easily but when you have a full Debilitate/Luster Candy engine you can make the argument for any of the other damage hybrid chars.
>>
>NOW IS MY TIME, WOHO
>>
>>162782896

>THAT'S MY BOY
>>
>>162782274
He is literally the only useful partner as well and doesn't have shitty dialog like the rest.
>>
Debilitate
>>
>>162783862
YHVH will never be a transcendant being because transcendant means he's enlightened, which is the opposite of what YHVH is. He's just a powerful demon. Satans chill because Lucy is the part of him represented a desire to turn on YHVH from the moment of his creation.

Satan and Krishna also tell you idiots that Law, Neutral, and Chaos are constantly in flux is part the of the natural order. Not to mention humans in IVs universe are retards yet you all act like they aren't. Hell Stephen has to tell them to kill God because they are too retarded to do it without orders. They even point out people are so busy falling into Law and Chaos unnatural extremes to think for themselves and Neutral is a laughable fleeting pipe dream. and the retards will quickly YHVHs dick again.
All this happens because Nanashi/Akira is super special and destroys a plan that had worked for billions of years.
>>
>>162787518
Damn meant for >>162730885
>>
>>162729334
Miyakos is very clearly Law.
>>
Riot Gun
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>>162787518
Why was Satan even part of Lucifer in IV:A? They were both separate beings in II that wanted to kill each other.
>>
>>162787518
Law and Chaos are both lies spread by Record Scratch though.

>>162787995
Miyako's is shit. Just like her.
>>
>>162792542
Other way around. Different universe from SMTI-II.

>>162792764
They're lies because they take it to the extreme, because humans are easily kept under control in extremes. Chaos without demons and Law without angels are less psychotic, which we've seen in spinoffs.
>>
Hoy.
>>
>>162414539
wow you're pretty cool

>inb4 someone complaining about responding to 4 day old posts
>>
QUICK
WHAT DO I NAME MY SOUL HACKERS PROTAG
>>
>>162796163
l33th@x04man
>>
ONE
>>
Hoy.
>>
Rejected
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>>162776383
Can someone tell me the plot of DeviChil?
>>
What's a good str/dex build? Playing magic all the time is boring
>>
>>162779132
Basically up-down is how fucked their endings were, with "smitethee for eternity" Aleph and "gold plated doorknobs" P3MCs.
Left-right is how much they were responsible for it - with Aleph being genespliced to be messiah from birth and Yu getting buzzer handshaked, compared to, let's say Flynn where White are mad because you get to choose what you want and not choose oblivion.

It's a widely-reposted bait to talk about my protag's suffering>your protag's suffering.
>>
>>162812270
Shouldn't Demi-fiend be on the Catch-22 side?
>>
>>162812270
>>162815674
Also depending on certain paths wouldn't he be more rewarded? Since it's a matter of perspective of that path rather than the chart maker's perspective?
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>>162815830
That's what I meant when saying it's shitpost material.

You can put everyone anywhwere and it will make sense, especially the catch-22/YRwYS axis when it isn't simple cause and effect.
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>>162749337
Honestly, is there a shitter gameplay mechanic/move in all of gaming?
>oh has it been 1 hour you've successfully braved this dungeon and are about to exit and save?
>here's instadeath :')
>>
>>162819957
Get good and use Dark Null/Drain/Repel.
>>
>>162819957
Generally, there's usually something to protect you, like not being "MC-death=Game over" or Homunculuseseses.

It's the secret bosses with 9999 megidolmaos that are real dick moves, but they sort of get a pass for that, since they're bonus challenges.
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>>162817257
That's fucking retarded. Obviously we need a superior tier list!
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>>162819957
Megidolaon
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>>162819957
I mean, the game doesn't tell you about it, but the MC always has an innate resistance to that shit.
>>
Has anyone here played The Secret World? Apparently it's set in a modern setting where myths and such come to life. Sounds a lot like MegaTen.
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>>162820921
>The Secret World
I own this game. I, however do not own the 180 USD worth of DLC.
>>
SMT x Age of Mythology
>>
Do fusion error have a dependance with luck in Apocalypse?
>>
>>162822720
Don't believe so. I know the Sick ailment gives you a higher chance of it. The most demons (and you) you have that are sick, the higher the chances. Fusing dead demons also heightens it.
>>
>>162823037
What's the fastest way to be sick?
>>
>>162823406
Getting hit by Pandemic Bomb, there are enemies at the end of Cosmic Egg and Twisted Tokyo that love spamming that shit. Sick also spreads as press turns are passed while a sick demon is in the party. There's also an accessory in the Black Card shop specifically for making you weak to sick.
>>
>>162823406
There's a ring that increases the chances of getting Sick. Other than that, you'll have to find a demon that can inflict you with Sick somewhere.
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>>162817257
My favorite is this one where you guess which is which.
>>
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THOSE MASH X TRAPS IN APOCALYPSE

DEMONS CAN'T EVEN ATTACK YOU DURING THEM
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>>162826764
To teleport back to the beginning and fight all the enemies again.
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>>162826970
They're too easy though.
But that's a good thing, because if the game forced you to mash the button Mario Party style, then that would make it worse.
>>
>>162827348
Now you made me realize tgey've never done a 2D SMT game like Mario.
>>
>>162826764
Have you ever heard of padding?
>>
>>162822720
>Caring about gotta catch all them pokedemons
Gay

>>162819957
SMT is about random stuff happening

>>162820921
Heard good things about TSW. That said no western game will ever be as retarded as SMT
>>
>>162827608
The sprites for FINAL's promotional videos were beautiful. It disappointed me that they weren't in the game somewhere.
>>
>>162827861
The West has made plenty of shit games that are retardef.
>>
>>162820717
Yes in some games like SMT 1 your Human protagonists are immune to Hama & Mudo
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>>162828163
Absolutely but they don't make games retarded in the same ways as the nips.
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>>162828646
Yeah they wouldn't have the balls to make YHVH the bad guy.
>>
hello friends, just a slightly off-topic PSA; Catherine just became backwards compatible on Xbox One, so higher framerates, etc, etc. It's available digitally as well, but if you already own it, go play it again.
>>
>>162826628
Left Nanashi is Bonds
Right Nanashi is Massacare
Rightmost Flynn is Neutral
Didn't do Law or Chaos in SMTIV
>>
>>162829153
When is /smtg/ going to start a competitive Catherine team and dominate EVO?
>>
>>162828868
They could they just would give him an actual motive and a plan and wouldn't tie his defeat into some retarded faggot autistic plan they trapped themselves in because they now have to take seriously the "demons are ideas" routine rather than just turning it on and off when appropriate to be clever.
>>
>>162829538
wew, count me out I fucking suck at puzzle games. I played it on the hidden very easy mode just so I could enjoy the story. shame was brought upon my house.
>>
>>162829153
>admitting to owning an XBONE
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>>162829819
His motive: stay in power.

His plan: Keep everyone retarded.

And as IV showed it worked flawlessly till Nanashi fucked it up.
>>
>>162829538
I'd rather play Puzzle de Call!
>>
>>162830206
what about it? I have all the current gen systems, and a PS3 (it's a megaten machine) and like, 5 Famicoms.
>>
>>162830217
His plan was less effective than had he just did nothing.

And 4 didn't show shit. It was 4A that retconned chaos and law to be both created by record scratch
>>
New thread, you lazy shits.
>>162833094
>>162833094
>>162833094
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