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Nightmare slain: >>162043380

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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We should always strive to be good bbg
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>>162168001
Yes, and be maniacal, murderous fanatics who find joy in killing those they do not like.
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When are you actually supposed to use the tricked HMLS? It seems to be pretty fucking worthless compared to untricked R2 spam.
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>>162168526
Whenever you want.
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>>162168526
When you stop being a shitter and start having fun.
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AWOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>162168871
What? How does using effective moves make you a shitter?
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Does the ps4 pro raise the framerates for bloodborne?
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>>162169853
No.
Should put this in the OP seeing how often it's asked.
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>>162170303
Gayyyyyy
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>>162169046
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>>162170396
>he fell for the ps4 pro meme
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The carriage to Cainhurst will not appear while the Hemwick Witches are still alive. As soon as they're dead, you can trigger the carriage, even without reloading the area. What are the deep lore implications of this?

>>162168526
When you want to shoot shadowy lightwaves from space. It's pretty shit for R1 spam.

>>162169853
No. It improves the load times if you install an SSD, that's it.
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>>162170461
I haven't yet :^)
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>>162170497
At a guess, Cainhurst fucks aren't going to show up while "powerful" Church-affiliated fags are around, which I think the Witches are implied to be.
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>>162170497
So your R1s, both tricked and untricked, are all complete shit?
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>>162170696
At 50/25 with nourishings the tricked R1s do a lot of damage, but the R2s are the main attraction.
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What's the best version of the Parasite, and where do you get the best gems for it? I have a bunch of radial cold gems, but only +50 scaling. I'm guessing Uncanny (radial/radial/triangle) is the best? Or is there a way to get good arcane waning gems?
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>>162171125
Read the OP
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>>162170497
But you could already put an SSD into an ordinary PS4

What's the point of a Pro then?
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>>162171529
Another new console you'll be forced to by eventually.
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>>162171529
>But you could already put an SSD into an ordinary PS4
You could, but it would barely improve the load times because of the internal bus. The Pro uses a better one so an SSD can make a difference.
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which one has higher dps?
whirlgig L2
saw spear R1
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>>162171125
Uncanny is the best version of the Parasite. A list of the best gems are in the first OP link, it's honestly a great resource. Just loo kunder the Korean gems section.
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>>162172947
Supposed that I have 50/25 Str/Skl with 1 HA and 2x27.2s
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did enb actually play OH on stream?
I guess twitch really did work for him eh
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>>162175167
I think he only did one playthrough and it wasn't live
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>>162173110
Why are they called korean gems? Because of all the time you'll spend farming it?

On a side note is it possible to make a tank build for co op? Like super high vitality and rally potential? Sounds like fun to me.
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Does anyone want to run some chalice dungeons with me? I'm up to depth 3 ptu layer 3 and I'm lonely
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>>162177219
>Because of all the time you'll spend farming it?
that's exactly it

>On a side note is it possible to make a tank build for co op?
someone post that image of the guy with 99vit and three clockwise metamorphosis runes
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>>162177390
How bad are Korean gems anyway? I'm used to some pretty bad shit. Like, 1600 runs for one piece of equipment.
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>>162177521
for the 27.2% physical damage up gems it usually takes maybe 30 minutes to an hour or so to get a couple of satisfactory ones

to get a good heavy abyssal it might take 1-2 hours

for the rarest shit like 31.5% bloodtinge it would take much longer, but I've never farmed those myself so I cant tell you
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>>162177219
>Because of all the time you'll spend farming it?

Yep, it's in reference to Korean MMO players who grind like lunatics

And sort of, I have a 99vit, three clockwise metamorphosis rune characters, you will still get scaled down, and bosses hit hard regardless, but it's fun tanking some hits. It's not like Dark Souls where equipment numbers actually matter.
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What kind of radials do I want for uncanny parasite? Nourishings?
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>>162178673
Full arc
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>Brainsuckers in Isz
>stand still and barely react while you stroll up and poke them to death

>Brainsuckers in the main game
>ayylmao magic missile spam from a mile away
>poise tank through anything
>gimme dat insight
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Is 25str/50arc a good build for Logarius' wheel? I'm new to the game but I've fallen in love with this dumb wheel.
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>>162179684
Yeah, get the lost variant with nourishing gems and you'll get ridiculous damage
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>>162180185
Isn't the wheel just dash attack spam?
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Best girl
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>>162181079
Most weapons only use 1-2 attacks.
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WHERE ARE THE SCURRYING BEASTS IN THE RESEARCH HALL?

Why are they not there?
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>When you finally realize watchdog is one of those "play passively" bosses
No wonder I was dying so much
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>>162181295
Bottom floor.

Save and quit.
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>>162181295
There's two first thing when you enter, one slightly to the left when you walk in, and one further back on some steps leading into the poison water.
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>>162181079
Everything is.
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>>162182794
How do people even have fun with this game?
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>>162181231
>not using the full potencial of your weaponfu moveset
When will this meme die?
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>>162183040
By not spamming it, or by spamming it and winning more.
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>>162183040
Because not everyone is a min-maxing lunatic
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>>162183040
Is the amount of moves you use on a weapon the only source of fun you have?
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>>162183040
Not playing by optimal viable builds and doing moves they enjoy with the weapons they like.
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>>162183040
Because not everything is dash spam. Chikage's dash is pretty garbo unless you freeaim it, and even then its hit or miss.

That and dashspam isn't even the most effective way to PvP. It's a crutch for shitters to feel good.
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>>162183340
>Not playing by optimal viable builds
Losing isn't fun
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>>162183249
It's the other way around
Doing the same thing the same way is boring
Doing the same thing in different ways is """fun"""
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>>162183519
Winning against these scrubs with 30 STR and 15 ARC is.
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>You can get the tonsil stone in Hemwich
What
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>>162183860
you can get it from any window after Rom
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>>162183910
>you can get it from any window after Rom
wut
I haven't killed rom yet. Latest story progression boss I have killed is Amelia
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>>162183860
You can get it at any windown after Amelia and after visiting the woods.
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>>162181749
>>162181803

I know where they are, their just not there. I quit to title, closed the game, restarted my ps4, played offline, and I know for sure I didn't kill them. It's bullshit.
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rom anyone? pass bbg
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>>162183860
You can get it from any window after entering Woods. Even the little girl's.
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>>162184028
before Rom*
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>>162184050
Burgertown Rom? Where you ringin?
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>>162184460
in chalice dungeon at lamp
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>>162184590
SRRCing in m8, let's wreck that spider
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>>162184894
Dank outfit mate
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Thanks boys, rip gud hunta
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Can someone pls help me kill the blood starved beast?
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>Using hunter axe as a filler until I get the weapon I'm building around
>End up loving it
Whoa even the starter weapons are fun. So much better than Souls
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>>162186341
You chose the right one, Axe is great.
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>>162185785
Dodge left
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>>162186597
Tried, he still one shots me
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>>162186701
What level? Either way, dodge better.
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>>162186341
They're all fantastic. Even if you're going str, try the saws too. They do work on str builds.
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>>162186701
What NG cycle? Also, make sure you're actually dodging. You can get through the entire fight without getting hit once if you're competent enough to just dodge correctly to the left. It's nothing complicated.
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>>162186864
Cleaver > Spear on STR builds
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>>162183451
It literally is if you're using pic related. It even costs less stamina.
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>>162187062
You're thinking of the Blades of Mercy, senpai.
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>>162185010
ayy
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>>162187062
Eh, I've found trick attack spam to work way better for me.
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>>162187280
Both weapons share this trait, burial blade doesn't have it in the description though. Try testing yourself, it even makes the ping sound with the light streak. This is in both forms.
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>>162187549

Dash bonus applies to tricked as well. It's even more spammable than r1 since it costs less stamina than a standing r1, including the cost of dashing.
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How /bbg/ is my team?
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need help with chalice keeper

pass: bbg
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Beat the moon presence.
Question about ng+, will I keep the chalice dungeons I have up? I don't want to farm up the materials for them again, cause they were high level ones
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>>162188510
>no Dhelmise
Leave
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>>162188510
Cosmog x6
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>>162188692
man I mean yeah theres a fishing hamlet but I dont even remember seeing any anchors there my dude. He's a cool ass guy though.
>>162188759
all the cosmic with none of the horror
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>>162188586
Yes.
That's in the OP.
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>>162188872
Cosmog x5 and a Gastly
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So /bbg/, I'm finally starting to farm gems in earnest, and I'm a little lost as to what I'm actually looking for and feel like an idiot.

I'm looking to gem up an Uncanny Kos Parasite, I've been looking through this link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848 for the highest numbers and anything to do with arc. Does the parasite just not have that high of damage in the first place or am I looking at the wrong stuff?
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>>162188872
>I dont even remember seeing any anchors there my dude
I remember getting my shit pushed in by anchors many times
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>>162189102
The Kos Parasite has low AR, but high attack modifiers.
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>>162189102
1 Cold Radial from Pthumeru Elder, 1 23.1%+15 Arc Radial from Bone Ash Hunters in Isz, and a 27.2% Arc Triangle from Isz Watchers. Parasite has huge modifiers, so don't worry about the low AR. Don't use Flats unless you're only going for the L2 explosion for higher damage.
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>>162168526
How much damage will the tricked moonlight sword actually do on a 50/25/25 build, vs the untricked mode? Besides memebeams.
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tfw there are probably only 10 posters in this general
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>>162189102

I need one of those cold radials mentioned in post >>162189443

You want to co-op and get some?
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>>162189190
>>162189443
Huh, so my dream of an Arcane Brawler using non-Milkweed Kosfist may be for naught, then?

Cheers anons, I have some work ahead of me.

>>162189987
I'd love to, but I've only just made it to Ihyll, don't have the root yet. I'm also a huge gem newfag and have no idea how to savescum, despite this being something like my tenth playthrough of the game.
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>>162189987
I would but can't at the moment, sorry lad. But Elder is pretty easy, 2nd phase is cheesable with Black Sky Eye spam.
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>>162190162
all you need to do is plug a usb in and copy your save to it, get to where you want to farm then if you don't get what you want, quit the game and copy the save from the usb to your ps4
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>>162190162
>>162190214

Multiple personality disorder?

Savescumming is easy. Just exit the game before the boss door. Upload save game to cloud. Fight boss. Reload when the boss drops something crappy.
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>>162190162
Actually if you're going for Kos Fist, Flat Arcane would be ideal. Should've also mentioned that, Arcane%+Flat Arc is kinda rare. The damage isn't amazing but it's something, it's best if it was against lower levels or you used Hunter Tools as well.
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>>162190484
is this better/faster than the usb method? do you still have to quit the game?
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>>162190162
> Huh, so my dream of an Arcane Brawler using non-Milkweed Kosfist may be for naught, then?

If you want to do that, then just farm some Brainsucker gems from Isz (boss version) and Pthumeru (mob version). These make your fists do somewhat decent damage, it's crap compared to any other weapon, but it can be hilarious in invasions if the opponent thinks you are wanting a regular fistfight.

Also I'm pretty sure if you go absolutely full Korean and farm a Brainsucker gem with ~10% Arcane as the primary and 67.5 flat as the secondary instead of a radial cold abyysal, it will do slightly more damage on all attacks. But getting Arcane as a primary effect in Pthumeru is rarer than an offshape gem.
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>>162190518

>Arcane%+Flat Arc is kinda rare

I don't think I have seen those. Who drops them? What about the brainsucker enemies in Ihyll, they drop physical + arc %, e.g phys atk + 9% + arc attack up6 2%. Are those any good? Two of those in radial is what I am using now.
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>>162190821

Pic related. Easiest to farm ever.
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>>162190398
Really dumb question, but how exactly do I copy the save data from the usb to to PS4 and load it?
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>>162190821
Brainsucker mob in Ihyll for Radials, Brainsucker boss in Isz for Triangles. Ihyll Arc%+Arc is very rare.
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How many abyssals on a 50 str burial blade?
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>>162191071
Application saved data management under settings
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>>162191071
Step 3: In the main menu, go to "Settings" ...
Step 4: Click on "Application Saved Data Management" ...
Step 5: Select "Saved Data in System Storage" ...
Step 6: Select "Copy to USB Storage Device" ...
Step 7: Select game to copy. ...
Step 8: Wait until transfer is complete.
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>>162191204
One
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>>162190821
Brainsuckers in Ihyll drop lots of effects.

> Blunt/Thrust is fairly common (blunt + flat arc is perfect for Wheel)
> Poorman's/fools are also semi-frequent
> Heavy/Sharp turn up every now and again (completly useless)

Pretty much any effect can drop, including Arcane damage, but it's just super incredibly rare. Arcane + Flat Arcane is common from Isz Brainsuckers, but a 27.2% or 24.8% +15 flat is usually better anyway.
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>>162191206
>>162191247
Cheers lads, I'll test this out
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>>162191006
>Eye runes
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>>162179349
I never had a problem with the brainsuckers in the cathedral ward until like my 4th playthrough of the game. Then i lost like 4 insight trying to kill them
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Orphan of Kosm is p annoying tbqhyfamampaitachis.
His parry frames are the size of my dick and his attacks are really hard to avoid. Is he weak to anything? Can I cheese him other than parrying?
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>>162192749

>implying I would level to 150, have 40 end and 15 arcane on a arcane build

THAT IS NOT ME, YOU MASSIVE TWAT. THE INTERNET HAS PICTURES ON IT.

SURPRISE BITCH.
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I finally beat the Watch dog on the defiled chalice.
Will the Amygdala destroy me for 5 hours as well?
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>>162193284
defiled amy is 10x harder if you do it legit, but is pretty easy if you jump cheese her.
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>>162193091
When he jumps over you, while locked on your camera turns to his back and you could do a charge attack/augur for a backstab. Or learn to parry him into oblivion and skip his 2nd phase doing this.
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Met up with a guy I knew from highschool. Turns out we're both huge fans of bb. We decided to do a run together and I'm considering what build I want. Something different.

Wheel or bloodletter/ cannon? Something else? Thoughts? This pry won't be a serious playthru
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>>162193885
Bloodletter is fun.
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>>162193284
I can come in and help you fight the fuck, it's like fighting it by rote now for me, but I feel joy taking down that spidery faggot
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>>162193885
You could do a Str/Blt build with Flat Arc Wheel and Bloodletter. Military Veteran: 40+/10+/28/15/50/10. 28 Str for Church Cannon and Gatling Gun, 15 Skill for Chikage and Bowblade.
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If I want a lost logwheel, can I just find any bath messenger in chalice dungeons or does it have to be a specific tier?
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>>162194256
You can only buy DLC weapons from the dungeon bath shops, not vanilla weapons. You'll need a glyph.
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>>162194256
For base game weapons, you need find a specific chalice glyph to get variants but you don't need the normal weapon (for instance, you can find the burial blade's lost and uncanny variants without getting it from Gehrman), with DLC weapons, once you have the weapon, you can buy the variants from the bath lads
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>>162194370
>>162194453
Oh that's neat. Whoops then I killed Alfred for no reason.
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>>162194630
Absolutely disgusting
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What chalice depth do enemies start dropping Blood Chunks?
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>>162185785
Just walk
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>Getting 1 shot by undead giant
why does it have so much hp
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For the people who played this pre patches, when you did the sequence break of jumping over the fence to reach the back of Iosefka's clinic at the start of the game, did the game just push the night cycle forward when you entered the forbidden woods?
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Anyone around for ludwig BL90? I'm on NG+ and he is rly hard
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>>162194123
This intrigues me. Tho, you meant str not arc right? Or am I not seeing something.

Also, would it be easier to just kill Alfred the first time I meet him, or the second?
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Thank fucking Kosm chalices don't scale with NG+ because I don't think mankind could physically handle NG+7 HMPH
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>>162195340
Gimme a pass my dude, where you ringing?
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If chalice scaled with NG+ he would be easier because then From would have been forced to actually balance him.
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>>162194630
Then you have to kill the queen yourself in his stead.
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>>162195660
pass is lad

i'm at the ludwig fog gate
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>>162195849
I'm a-ringing me matey
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>>162195849
need extra help?
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why is the chikage so fucking shit
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>>162196405
because it is a tampon katana
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>Undead giant almost dead
>Literally 1 shots me from full HP
Fuuuuuuck me.
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>>162195405
Base stats Wheel (20/12/10 Str/Skl/Arc) will do great damage with the tricked multi-hits if you use Flat Arcane gems, so you don't have to invest high in Arc with those gems. The Uncanny version is ideal, so you don't have to kill Alfred unless you want to use the Wheel early. Killing him the first time seeing him wont drop the badge, only after he's moved.

The normal Wheel has a Waning slot which for the most part is useless since Flat Arc is common in Radials and Triangles. Those gems require finishing dungeons though.
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>>162196110
damn you're the man

>>162196186
sorry m8, just got done. i will probably eventually need help on living failures though
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someone want to kill bloodletting beast with me? pass bbg
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>>162196492
Glad to help! Ludders is a great fight
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>>162196467
would you say there was nothing you could do?
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>>162197115
Not really, I had gotten hit because I dodge too early I'm guessing it's the instability frames that got me 1shot

Pretty terrible mechanic by the way, if only because of situations like this
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Can someone help me with Orphan of kos?
Lvl 83
Pass: Kosm
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>>162197910
omw
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>>162197910
ringaling
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>>162196758
Which one senpai?
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>>162198408
>>162198801
Sorry but it's over now. Just managed to kill it
Thank you though
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>>162197910
do you got worldwide on?
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>>162198801
depth 3 layer 4 one :(
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Does anyone have a link to the page that shows which secondary effects drop where?
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>>162196489
I see, my thanks. If he wants to tackle the dungeons I'll try it. But, I'll probably go for just bloodletter cannon instead
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>>162195513
Each attack would be an OHKO at that point, I think.
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>>162198974
Didn't know you were still ringing! I'll be SRRCing in a sec my man
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>>162199219
It's in the wiki.
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>>162199737
just got him to like 30% then fucked up my dodge
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>>162198974
FUCKING HUNTER RUNE

I FORGOT reringing in a sec
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>>162199791
I couldn't find it for some reason, thanks!
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Need help on lower pthumeru rom, I keep getting 1shot from almost full HP
pss: bbg
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>>162199898
And now SRRC is taking forever fucking Christ Almighty
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>>162200540
omw
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>>162200053
Hope you killed the host
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The 2nd form of Orphan is just so absurd, I now see why he's considered the hardest boss. I could beat him on my own but i'd have give it maybe 50 tries before I finally could and that's without even parrying. Shit seems like its for masochists but maybe someday, i'll be able to ina future playthrough.
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>>162200567
yeah i'm still waiting
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>>162200721
You ringing for Bloodletting Beast yeah? I just got summoned into a guy fighting Rom
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>>162201004
yeah, let's change password to bbg23
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>>162200629
Thanks m8 I still got her
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>>162201123
Ringing with new pass
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>From have DaS3 running on Nintendo Switch
>considering trilogy re-release

So, that's a new Armored Core and Souls Trilogy remaster ticked off, what's From's third project? New IP?
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>>162201442
From has stated that yes, they are doing a new IP
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>>162201442
>Original Dark Souls Remaster
I'd hope more for a DeS remaster but I wouldn't exactly say no to this.
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>>162201610
Oh shit, didn't know it was confirmed, noice
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>>162201279
god damn this is taking ages what the fuck, you set to worldwide?
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>>162201279
Try reseting your console. Sometimes I won't summon but reseting fixes it, get the summon immediately after restarting.
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>>162201279
thanks anon
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>>162202137
Glad to help m8, sorry it took so long there
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Is 50/50 still benefit from using SKL weapons with Heavy Abyssal?

Currently 50/25/14arc
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>>162201442
>Another DaS 2 release
GET HYPED BOIS!
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>>162204734
Some yeah like the Burial Blade. Best if it has a +15 Phys or +6% vs Open Foes secondaries.
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>>162201442
>considering trilogy re-release
And you know this is all greedy Bamco forcing this shit
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>>162204789
me
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>>162205143
I'd rather have King's Field Remastered
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>>162205286
Implying i'd have a problem with demon or dank souls on ps4 or pc.

>Bloodborne 2 when? Fucking when?
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>>162205415
Dude they are going to package that shit together for sure, have fun paying for DaS 2 and 3 again.
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>>162205415
If it even comes out on anything but Switch. The problem is two of the three games already exist on PS4, what kind of re-release would you get for PS4? Three game bundle with Scholar and DaS3 existing their own separate titles? Seems awkward, but there's been weirder decisions made before I guess.
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Can someone help me with lower loran abhorrent beast? Ringing at layer 2 ramp pw bbg
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>>162201442
Pity that out of the 3, Dark Souls 1 is the only actually good game.
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>>162206434
Guess if no ones coming going to try to get some gems instead until this thread gets active
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>ebrietas

this macaroni faced cunt, i forgot how much i hated her
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>>162206434
>>162207826
I'll run down quickly to Layer 2 and help you out.
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>>162193402
I have an example of how to parry that jump
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>>162207984
Let me know when you get there so I can start ringing
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>>162208690
Alright, I'm ringing, anon.
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>>162208931
Alright, entering layer 2 and ringing, see you in a sec
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>>162209052
Are you at the fog or lamp btw? I'm ringing at the lamp with pw bbg
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>>162209361
Ah gotcha, I was ringing at the top of the stairs.
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>>162209491
Thanks!
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>>162209860
Glad to help out, m8
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>First time fighting laurence. both of us low on health while he spammed his attack on last phase
>One of your notes was rated fine

Orphan of Kos was much harder though, tried parrying but couldn't even find the correct timing.
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>>162193284
Nah, he's pretty docile and once he tore his arm off you can jump cheese him.

The only problem is getting one shotted
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Fromsoft logic
>Lets make a high damaging attack
>And lets also give it a massive AoE
>And the hitbox isn't obvious either because it's a quick animation

Fuck abhorrent beast. Too much damage for how quick it is. Have to vial after every hit and you can't go in to recover the massive damage through rally because he could just finish you off with any of his massive Aoe attacks.
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>>162211943
Laurence took me like 2 tries. I never understand what people found so hard about him. Maybe he's really hard on NG++ due to higher HP but on NG, it was basically the same formula as Cleric Beast for the most part. I had like 25 VIT and I was still able to tank most of his shit. And the 2nd phase was almost trivial since he leaves himself open for a HUGE time with his fire vomitting or shitting out fire out of his ass.
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Looking for help again at ng+ living failures BL90. anyone around? password is lad
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>>162212274
You can dodge under him and stick to his legs

Remember to exploit species
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>>162212757
at boss door btw
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>>162212413
Is this the jump cheese everyone always talks about? I never realized that was it.
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>>162212757
Madman incoming
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>>162213003
Don't reply to the tripfag.

But yes, sitting right under him usually makes him jump, and if you position yourself right behind where his tail was before he jumped makes him land right over your head, allowing free charge attacks and an easy win.
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>>162212274
He isn't that bad. You just need to play passively. Dodge through his extend-o-punch and smack him in the face.

You can hit him with a poison knife to constantly chip at him.

>>162213003
Yeah, my perfected version of it.
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>>162213239
Standing directly under her is stupid. Stay right behind her tail about a 1m back. Stay centered with her tail.
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Why does the Piercing Rifle exist?
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AH SHIT DID YOU GET THE MEMES
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>>162213440
I like the design, so I used paired with my reiterpallasch as a mostly decorative piece. I use loch shield for that now though.
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>>162213681
i got the memes. thanks for the help, i couldn't have doen it without you
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>>162213808
Glad to help, anon, they don't kid around in NG+
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>>162213257
>>162213003
>>162212413
Holy fuck thanks,I was like 10 failed attempts in and then did it first time trying jump cheese on the 11th. Time to farm the shit put of amy
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>>162214095
Happy to help.
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How do I gain insight irl? I want to be granted eyes.
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>>162215376
Eat umbilical cords.
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So if I wanted to get the blades of mercy as early as possible would it be better to kill Eileen in her first spot, or right after Henryk? She keeps all the damage right after that right?
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>>162215621
Just let Henryk kill her and then kill him for a rune and attire then.
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Will we ever get a sequel or will this game (and general) be made to pine and fade into nothingness?
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>>162216065
It will just get reabsorbed into /dsg/, which will become "souls-like general"
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>>162216065
Yes
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>>162213257
This isn't very good at all, why don't you just circle him?
And no his backhand swipe is not hard to dodge
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>>162216065
No, there will never be a sequel because there doesn't need to be. The general will exist as long people here play the game..
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>>162215875
Yeah, I figured it would be the easier option. I'll pry poison him up during the fight so he'll really be a pushover
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So I'm at Rom. Haven't farmed echos or anything. I'm at level 46 with 25Vit, 20End, 25Str, and 10 Skill. Using the Beast Cutter.
Where should I start dumping my levels into?
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>>162216543
Vit to at least 40. After that, pump Strength to 50 and get Skill to 12-25. Ignore End and wear at least one Stamina Rune.
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>>162216406
Because what I posted was "easy mode."

>>162216457
I would like a prequel though. As in previous civilization age.

>>162216543
Get vit to 30 then work on str.
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>>162216741
You know you can just parry Keeper and end the fight three times faster, right?
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>>162216503
When I did that she left him with 20% HP, so it wasn't that hard. I didn't know the details of the quest so I assumed she would win, but regardless I used the BoM for the rest of the story, and just replaced it on chalice dungeons for variation. I would like the blood rapture and hunter runes though, maybe on a next run.
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>>162216406
Because more than half of the time the fucker doesn't know what he's doing. Just ignore and filter the tripfag.
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>>162216935
The challenge was no parries allowed, no damage, and had to do around 200 damage a hit with a weapon a new character can use.
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>>162216935
Dude, you don't talk to the tripfag.
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Bloodborne is so good bros. The gameplay, the music, the art, the world and character and enemy design, all fuckin top notch. I find myself reflecting on the story and writing a lot, even when I'm not playing the game.

>Ah, Kos... or some say Kosm... do you hear our prayers?

Is there a God? If there is why would he allow humanity to suffer so? How many mouths, hungry or ravaged by war, move in silent prayers every night begging for mercy from a higher being? Do God's eyes cover the world, keeping silent watch on everybody and everything, standing in judgement of every action? Or is the Bible simply empty words left behind by frail messengers?

When /bbg/ anons die will we wake inside the dream? Will our hunts echo through eternity? Or will we simply perish in the dark after brief and beastly lives?

Are we one with the cosmos that hang above our heads, or are we but dust, minuscule and beneath notice?
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Never used the stake dinner. Anyone who can give me a good salespitch? Preferred stats to optimize?
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>>162218095
50/25+ Str/Skl or 50+ Arc. The weapon is pretty standard in its moveset, but the big bang is its best move if you can land it.
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>>162218000
>Is there a God? If there is why would he allow humanity to suffer so?

You ever play a god game? That's why.

>>162218095
The Pile Driver isn't that good. Just use it to goof off when you want to be Big O.

>>162217289
Yet, I actually talk about the game, while all you do is shit post about me.
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>>162218346
>Black and White
>teach my giant tiger to shit exclusively on the children's school using violent reinforcement
>occasionally burn my villager's crops with fireballs for no reasons
>occasionally fling a follower 5000 feet in the air just for the hell of it
hmm, you have a point
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I am the authority of these threads
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>>162218000

>Sweet child of Kos returned to the Sea, a bottomless sea accepting all that there is, and CAN be

Somehow I think giving a proper burial and not forgetting they ever existed to someone who's dead Is the moral here

All those people who died without anyone knowing their names it's pretty fucked up I think
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Anyone up to help with Rom?
I'll ring at lantern, bbg pass
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>>162218000
I wonder what the religion of Yharnam was before the Healing Church, before the city was called Yharnam. It was probably a medieval town, built around or near Cainhurst, the ruling nobility of the town. The Fishing Hamlet probably lay, at one time, maybe a mile or so away from town. And under it all, a land riddled with Pthumerian ruins, filled with monsters and nameless truths.

I imagine, too, there were probably other schools and colleges like Byrgenwerth, but they, maybe due to their location so near the town or by the lake or near the Pthumerian Labyrinths, got the headstart and plunged the town into an Enlightenment. All those resources and all that power and understanding plundered from the Pthumerian civilization was used to build up the town and the college, and the new city was christened Yharnam, in tribute to the name of some ancient monarch whose people inadvertently helped foster the town.

Then Kos washed up on the Fishing Hamlet beach, and potential centuries pass as the Healing Church administer their very real faith to the people, rise to the top of society, take out their old nobility who pose a threat to their dominance, and Yharnam grows with the Church. I think maybe the Church fostered a syncretic system of the old faith and the new faith they discovered underground.

One has to wonder just what weekly services are like in Yharnam, what are the prayers and services rendered in places like Oedon Chapel?
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It's lad boy again at blood starved beast, ringing at boss door pass is lad
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>>162218945
You get your help yet anon?
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>>162219764
Not yet.
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>>162219817
I can help if you don't mind waiting for me to boot up.

We doing chalice Rom or story Rom?
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>>162220007
Story Rom
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>>162220063
Bell's a-ringin'.
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>>162219763
Story BSB?
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>>162219763
yessir
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>>162220220
Thanks mate
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I can't believe I died to Bloodstarved, cheeky little bastard
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>>162221007
You bet.

I didn't want to completely obliterate her, so I thought I'd just hang back and snipe the spiders. Hope you didn't mind.
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>>162220565
thanks man, what tf is that tentacle around your neck from? is that from your torso outfit?
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>>162221229
It's all good.
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Hey, /dsg/, what weapon should I use on my next through the game? Any cool ideas?
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>>162221527
Glad to help! And it's the Madman's Garb, you can buy it from the Insight Messengers after killing Forgotten Madman in Layer 2, I think, of Hintertombs. For me, it's essential arcfag gear, gotta have it. Gotta have those blue tendril things, they match the broccoli.
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So did Amelia-anon make that vid or what? I've been away.
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>Wants to win so badly just spams dash foward + hunter's bone

Kill yourself faggotron
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>>162222804
>wants to win so badly he dodges so l can't hit him
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Post dank webms
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>>162222804
Never did PvP, so hunter's bone strong in it? In my BoM oriented build I got arcane to 15 just to use it since it looked fun, and it certainly was.
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What's the deal with the celestial slug things all over Upper Ward and Isz?
Is Ebrietas a full-grown version of one of them?
They look just like Arianna's baby, are they all the result of a human giving birth to a Great One? Are they all children of Oedon?
Why is Arianna's the only one that drops an umbilical cord? Or did they ones in Upper Ward already have their umbilical cords harvested for eyes?
Is Ebrietas' blood the "Old Blood" that the church uses for healing?
Is the statue in the Grand Cathedral be an anthropomorphism of Ebrietas?
What is the dead spider thing at the Altar of Despair? I've heard it could be Rom's physical body, but it has totally different legs to Rom.
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>>162221716
>/dsg/
This is /bbg/ anon
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>>162224172
Slugs may be infants who were experimented on by the church.

No, she's a full on Great One.

See above.

It's authentic because her womb was blessed with a child when the red moon descended. Fake Iosefka's was as we, not sure why she never gave birth though.

No, that was something they found in the tombs below Yharnam.

I don't think so but there are quite a few to choose from. Many depict Amy.

Believed to be Rom, Ebritas being hurt that it was killed. Attempt to bring it back? Not sure.
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>>162224172
>What's the deal with the celestial slug things all over Upper Ward and Isz?

The area up there is called The Orphanage. I'm pretty sure those things are birthed from human women, experiments by the Choir possibly to create an endless supply to blood, or to evolve humanity, or dredged up from Isz. If you notice, they are all facing towards where Ebrietas' boss room, there is a definite link. It's my personal theory that Ebrietas/Daughter of the Cosmos is a type, not a unique name.

>Is Ebrietas a full-grown version of one of them?

The Ebrietas we see might be very, very old, or birthed and grown right in the Upper Cathedral Ward.

>They look just like Arianna's baby, are they all the result of a human giving birth to a Great One? Are they all children of Oedon?

Probably birth by humans, or maybe dredged up from Isz. I don't think they're all Oedon's kids, but who knows.

>Why is Arianna's the only one that drops an umbilical cord? Or did they ones in Upper Ward already have their umbilical cords harvested for eyes?

I think hers was special. It was actually slightly smaller and made a unique noise. I think this was the 'child of blood' that actually came about. Maybe a body for Mergo, maybe something else altogether.

>Is Ebrietas' blood the "Old Blood" that the church uses for healing?

Yep, either Gilbert or Alfred (I think it's Alfred) says the source of the Church's special blood is found deep within the Cathedral Ward.

>Is the statue in the Grand Cathedral be an anthropomorphism of Ebrietas?

Very possibly so. We don't know of the religion in Yharnam before the Church, so it's quite likely a syncretic thing where an already existing figure is given an addition/update.

>What is the dead spider thing at the Altar of Despair? I've heard it could be Rom's physical body, but it has totally different legs to Rom.

I think it's A Rom, a being like but previous to Rom. Rom was an ascended human, apparently, so there's a chance this was just another.
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Anyone want to do ludwig with me? Pass bbg looking to have some fun.
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>>162224784
Yup, we're /bbg/, which means I'm going to try and be helpful because l consider this a much more hospitable general overall.

>>162221716
What have you already used and what kind of playstyle do you gravitate to? If you haven't used thr wheel or holy moonlight sword, both are fun. Amygdalan arm too.
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which one of you cheeky fucks is using lead elixir in nightmare frontier. Is there any counter to it outside of waiting for it to debuff haha?
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>>162225835
Charge attacks still hit right, at least against Brador they do
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does poison scale with anything or is it just whatever your gems give the weapon?
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>always found NPC hunters really hard
>try to change up my playstyle and become super aggressive
>suddenly realize that R1 spam is literally the best way to deal with these retards

I wish I realized that before instead of wasting time playing so passive reactive.
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>>162225835
You can try to backstep and try to parry shoot them I guess.
>>162226428
Just the gems. Better on fast weapons like the BoM.
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Is that all we do in PvP lately to win?

You guys are sad, can't stop relying on Hunter's Bone to get a hit and yet you fucking lose to someone baiting an R2

I'm never going past LV97 thanks to faggot tryhards who don't got any other way of having a fight
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>>162224989
Anyone?
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>>162226667
Are you referring to someone from here specifically or are you just mad at someone online and assuming they're hanging out here, eagerly awaiting your post?
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>>162226667
Jesus, git gud instead of whining like a bitch.
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>>162226814
You tell me but faggots like these >>162226814 are the ones who keep wasting my time losing despite using ashen bone/Hunter's bone/spam guns to win when a normal fight can still happen

Why are you even PvPing for? to farm insight? fucking faggots you can't even pvp for shit
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>>162226683
I'll help ya, fog or lamp?
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>>162227083
Honorfags everyone, though this guy is on a whole new level of autism.
Everyone else can deal with hunter bone. Adapt.
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>>162222774
>no enemies or traps here, but everything is on fire for some reason
Fucking lost it
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Is Bloodletting Beast supposed to be this obnoxious?
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>>162227423
Only if you're shit.
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>>162227083
dude if theyre losing to you why are you so mad? Only reason I can see someone being that upset at people for using a bone or spamming guns is if you keep gettimg your shit stomped in by them. In other words, git fukn gud
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>>162227423
Only the camera.
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>>162227225
Let's say fog. Sorry about that, jumped when I meant to roll.
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>>162227423
Dodge forward and to his right or left. His attacks go in a straight line.
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>>162227083
>stop playing with tactics i cant beat

Away, away
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>>162227493

Autismo logic brah, I'm in the military and you're not allowed to be a shitbag at anything usually so if it's bad to see people do better then the community can go eat a dick for taking the easy way to win
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>>162227225
Woo! Thanks friend, that was a fun time!
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>>162227828
You're welcome ;)
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>>162227423
Unlock your camera, pick a weapon with a good rolling attack (because that's all you're ever gonna hit him with) and roll between the legs so you're standing by his tail. Whack a leg once or twice and get ready to roll away again when he either stomps or bodyslams. When a leg gets crippled you can go mental with R1 spam for a while, and that leg will take increased damage until it heals. I've died to this cunt so many times in FRC Ihyll but it's a really fun fight once you get good at it.
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Hello
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>>162228285
Kill yourself
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>>162228428
Hello?

>>162228285
Hello
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Choir = respectable mad scientists with no sense of aesthetic style

Mensis = absolute madmen cultists with a fantastic sense of aesthetic style

Who would you join, /bbg/? The Choir sit in the Upper Cathedral Ward all day sucking blood outta Ebby-chan and experimenting on babies in fancy robes, while Mensis melt down villagers into blood monsters, wear giant cages and actually get shit done.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/5feghy/announcing_weekly_blooddrunk_fightclub/

>le reddit

Yeah, yeah I know but look. FC same day as ours, just starts earlier.

Are we raiding? Making webms like faggots to cherrypick individual good moments?
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>>162228591
I liked the architecture in both areas. That said, I respect a mad scientist over a mad cultist. One is delving deep into the mysteries of the world, the other is a crazy sheep.

Both have awful headgear.
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>>162228591
Mensis so I can observe the darkbeast at my leisure. Plus, I bet they have wild parties.
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>>162228591
Choir so I can put my peepee into Ebrietas
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>>162228990
>not swirling and churning your pee pee in the nightmare unending
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>>162228695
A few of us raided it like two weeks back, if you count 4 or 5 people participating a raid. It was pretty shit, all things considered. If you know how to rollcatch reliably you'll never lose.

I was there for like 4 hours before our FC and didn't make any webms of the experience, because everything was just reddit goobers eating freeaimed unzips. I never had an opportunity to do something cool because they kept dying to the uncool shit as the fight opened.
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>>162229085
I can squeeze in an hour between getting home from work and the start of our FC. Gotta see this for myself. All I hear from /v/ is that reddit sucks at games. Gonna have to find out for myself.
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>>162227910
>>162227504
Oh shit. It worked thanks.
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/fa/shion
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>>162229506
They're meta is 120 to 150, so either savescum up or play your 117 if you have one.
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>>162229673
I wear that, but with Old Hunter Trousers and the Tomb Prospector hood. The Trousers are about the same color as the vest, and also have bootcuffs that match the gloves. The Prospector hood matches the jacket in both color and texture.

If I ever see you in my fashion in a FC I'll empty my vermin banks on you, on all characters I have.
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>Bloodletting beast has a grab attack when you're between his legs
Holy fucking shit why did you guys not warn me
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>>162229721
120 is good, it's like the official meta.

98 is a meme, only works if you're trying to cheese noobs on the nightmare but you want to evade bl150 shitters.

Reddit "fightclub" is mainly composed by 150 shitters with a quality "Build" and only use the saw spear and the Ludwig meme sword.
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>>162229673
I prefer
>yharnam hunter cap
>gehrman body
>gascoigne's gloves
>yharnam hunter legs
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>play a female hunter
>get a boner every time she dies or lets out moans
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>>162229937
I don't like hoods and I actually changed to the old hunter trousers after taking the screenshot.
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>>162230008
>98

I remember coming here long ago when I first got BB and people saying this was the standard. What a fucking joke.

>>162229721
Got a 120.
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>BLB
>1HKO punch, can still take half your life off if you're in front of him but it misses,
>a charge attack that hits you even if you're between his legs

>Stomp
>Bodyslam
>Grab

>camera
Holy fucking shit this boss.
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>>162230008
This post is a guideline on what not to listen to. Take heed of it.
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Farming for a cold abyssal for my serrated fire weapon
>ATK vs. Beasts DOWN
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>>162230148
It's close enough to my fashion that i will still destroy you if I ever see you in it.

It's also a fashion I used to roll on a different character, because he looked better without the hood. Put on some other clothes, you goober. Don't rip off my style.
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>>162230260
My least favourite boss.
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>>162230260
Just hang out by his ankles.
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>>162229673
>literal Bloodborne hipster
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>>162228878
>the other is a crazy sheep

In all fairness, they actually got shit done and had an infant great one to beckon with
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>>162230219
98 was made exclusively to avoid for fighting people using the 150 meta, on release and the first months the meta was 120, before Some Tripfag whose name I shall not say "discovered" that the level 98 evaded fighting 150s.

It's really doesn't have a purpose if you are only fighting on /bbg/s fightclub.
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>>162230556
The Choir took over a city, enslaved a Great One, and were able to harness their power. Not too shabby.
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>>162229938
I'M SORRY WHAT
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>>162230558
I gave rise to level 98, but there was more to it than just avoiding 150s.

It serves multiple purposes. It still lets you pair up with 120s. It lets you invade level 80s (typically the level people will be in Mensis). If you like co-op, you can party up with people as low as level 60, etc.
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>>162230789
Cheese without getting cheesed basically.

>>162230343
I'm not scared you'll taste my saw
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>>162230883
How is fighting level 120s using a level 98, "cheesing"?
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>>162230631
Choir are just one of two factions within the Healing Church

And Mensis own the entirety of Yahar'gul
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>>162231017
It's not, but fighting an 80 is.
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>people still reply to him
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>>162230883
Stop replying to the trip
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>>162231076
>invading is cheesing
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>>162231061
So what?
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>>162228591
Mensis because they got it right, eyes were the way to ascendance where as blood just created a bunch of beasts.
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BULLY
LADY
MARIA
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>>162231352
What if Beasthood is also ascension? What if the beast is humanity's true, pure form?
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Eh, you can give Lucy a break. He's a tripfag which means he's automatically a bit of a pain in the ass but nothing compared to some of the douches floating around vg. He even helps out now and then. That Amy webm was useful.
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>>162231664
Djura please leave
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>>162231665
Put your trip back on.
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>>162231665
t. Lucy
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>>162231665
Put on your trip Lucy
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>>162231752
Not until you monsters see the truth!
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>>162231825
>>162231827
>>162231838
Alright, I tried.

>>162231180
You're on your own, buddy.
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>>162231235
Cage-wearing memelords are the best
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>Cursed pthumeru
>Keeper of the old lords
>Kills you in 2 swing of staggertown
No, why.
I really want that uncanny logwheel why do you have to go through so much bullshit for different gem slots.
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>>162232475
Keeper should not even be touching you. See:
>>162216741
>>162231093
>>162231176
>>162231213
This really burns your biscuits, huh?
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Nicedog if you'ore in here I love you for trying to help.

>Died instantly to micolash augur twice in a row.
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>>162232475
the "see" was only refering to that first one.
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>>162232570
You post all those cheese methods but they never work for me. The AI always does something different.
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Finished the game, and all the DLC. Haven't done chalice shit yet, how are the bosses there? Anything as garbage as Rom? I've 1 or 2 shot every supposedly hard boss in the game, including OH, but fucking Rom took me so long I almost shelfed the game. The fight is just so fucking cheesy. Almost as bad as the riflespear bullet spam hunter in the early game.
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>>162228878
>Blindfold Hat
>Awful headgear
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>>162232475
>>162232872
Case in fucking point I just tried to lock her into the corner and she just did the fire AoE
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>>162232872
Please do not respond to the namefag.
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Yeah I'm going to need help with this, can't handle the 1shots on top of ranged and AoE, all of which take half of my HP.
Chalice is defiled pthumeru
pass: bbg
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>>162232872
You just have to learn how to do it. They have triggers. For example, the Hotdog will chain bites together unless you stop, watch, and wait for it start to recoil its head from the first bite. The Keeper and Amy are basically the same.
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>>162233735
BL?
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>>162223915
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I've had no problem getting random worldwide coop for each boss so far but i've been sitting at micolash for a while now.

Is it because i'm only level 46?
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>>162233802
82
The area is cursed so I only have 589 hp instead of over 1k
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>>162233868
Probably.

>>162233874
I have to book up but I'll be there shortly. Keeper is the Layer 1 boss right? If so why don't you share the dungeon and post the glyph so we don't have to wait for the SRRC. Or I'll just SRRC.

I just didn't want to get downscaled into oblivion.
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>>162226667
>>162227083
>>162227806
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>>162233259
Also, she never does the fire AoE in my clip because I never let her get off the buff. I always interrupt it.
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>>162233983
Yeah it's layer 1 glpyh: wma2
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I thought you guys said 3 nourishing gems are better on a wheel than flat arc? I tried both and I'm doing way more damage with 2 +67.5 arc radials and a +72.5 arc triangle than I was with two 19.3% atk up radials and one 20.5% atk up triangle? Is nourishing only better for a 25/50 str/arc split if you have all 3 as 21.5% atk up?
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>>162234141
depends on enemy defenses and which attacks you're using
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>>162223915
>

>>162234135
I'll ring in over at the lamp
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>>162234224
Mostly quickstep / running r1s into combos when it's tricked. Is flat more suited for this?
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Kek. I'm a little rusty. And there's some latency. Not a good mix.

I'll tighten my game up.
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>>162234442
You did better than I would considering you were up in her face
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Thanks man
Probably going to need help again at the next boss though
Have no clue how I beat her and the next boss on my other playthrough
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>>162234254
He had Guts, but no brains.
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so from what i gather hunter are just being used as weapons in a war between two great ones? it seems the moon presence controls the hunters and was using them to kill mergo, who is a newly birthed great one? also how does the one reborn fit into this?
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>>162234484
He's got what's been called "emergency poise", but you can actually stun the fuck out of him out of almost all of his attacks.

>>162234747
If you need help with Hotdog give a shout. I really like fighting him. Amygdala too.

Hotdog's easy pz, and actually you can think of him a lot like Amygdala: kite his attacks and hit his head when you can.

The only difference is Amy's phase 3, during which you can sit under her with almost complete impunity and hack at her legs.
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Does stamina down stack? If I've got 2 gems with stamina down 3% is it a bad idea running them if their positive side is maxed?
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>>162223915
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>>162233093
Sorry to say this anon but Rom can appear in Chalice dungeons as well
You haven't experienced bullshit yet until you start using cursed chalices and everything fucking one shots you
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>>162234424
Flats are better for multi-hits, but Nourishings take advantage of the L2 buffing while doing respectable damage in both modes. Tricked quickstep/running attacks are multi-hits so that's why you're doing more than Nourishings.
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>>162234951
They stack, but it's very unnoticeable so having 3 isn't bad.
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>>162233857
Is that one of Anna's characters?
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>>162235338
Ah thanks, that makes sense. I'll stick with +67.5/67.5/72.5 flat arc for the time being then
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>>162235596
Yeah
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>>162233868
I waited for a while for no real reason. Micolash is way easier than rom.
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>>162234912
You're close, but not quite there. Mergo was the child of a great one that was stillborn ages ago. The School of Mensis did some sort of ritual an undescribed amount of time ago (my guess is it was a long time ago, but only around a century at the most) and made contact with the stillborn Mergo, which is how they and Mergo both landed in the Nightmare.

Now, see, Mergo was the child of the Pthumerian queen Yharnam, and (presumably) the one reborn has some relation to the bell maidens, who are showing up in the Mensis-controlled Yahar'gul for some reason, likely related to Mergo since the bell maidens are apparently Pthumerian (or something).

There's not enough evidence to say there's a war going on between any great ones, but the moon presence is controlling the hunters.

IMO, rather than trying to kill things in particular, MP is trying to get blood echoes for some reason or another, and gives hunters physical power in exchange for them. Stuff like the Moon descending making people turn into beasts (remember, blood echoes are the memories of those hit by the beast plague) makes me think that MP is the one perpetuating the hunt. Hunters don't appear to have a connection with any other great ones, either. For me, the real question is why the fuck does MP want blood echoes in the first place.

Side note, I think that whatever the fuck Formless Oedon is doing is happening alongside, but not in tandem with, whatever the fuck MP is doing. MP, if we're going with what I said, specifically needs beasts to exist for the blood echoes, whereas Oedon just needs dirty blood so he can try and knock someone up, like he did Yharnam and Arianna, which for some reason is linked to the paleblood moon (The great ones descend, womb blessed with child). It could be Oedon taking advantage of MP's plots.

There's... There's a lot of ways to interpret this shit.
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is it worth leveling arcane for a BoM build at this point in NG? still primarily using the saw cleaver, wondering if it's still viable to use BoM in NG+

vit 31
end 22
str 34
skill 21
bt 10
arc 7

level 76
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>>162236274
>22 end
nigga what the fuck are you doin
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Mergo's wet nurse is down.

Workshop on fire.

Can I still do chalices/other stuff or do I have to fight gerhman and go new game plus to get any further in.

Stats:
vit 30
end 11
str 42
sk 12
bt 6
arc 7
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Even in this darkest of nights...
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>>162236416
you dont need to fight gehrman yet unless you want his weapon/armor
killing him brings you to NG+, unless you have the secret ending
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>>162236416
You can do anything you want, but beating gehrman will take you to ng+. You can still start the fight and stay in ng if you lose
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>>162236478
...I see the moonlight
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>>162181593
Play passively? What exactly does this mean in this context?
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>>162236274
BoM is a terrible Arcane weapon, you need 50 Skill for it.
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>There people ITT that find Rom hard
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>>162236702
except for occasionally animation cancels, nearly all of hotdog's attacks can be safely and consistently punished after you dodge them
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>>162236702
Instead of getting on top of them and attacking and dodging when they attacking you wait back for them to attack then you attack and back off.
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>HAH you though I was going to attack but I actually delayed it exactly long enough to hit you at the end of your dodge
So that's here DaS3 got it from.
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Why does the moon pressance after mergo and trying to stop the ritual? Was mergo salty about being stillborn like seath and betraying his own by helping micalosh ascend? This is the only thing i dont get
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>>162237265
>stillborn like seath
You lorefags, man.
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>tfw someone with the same fashion and same weapon invades you

If it was someone from here ily
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>>162237265
Throwing my lorewank in, Mergo is a helpless infant. You don't fight him, you fight his wetnurse. Mergo isn't really doing jack shit. It's the ritual that needs to be stopped because, for some reason, it's causing the paleblood sky that's making people go nuts, turn into beasts, etc. But the only way to stop the ritual is to "kill" Mergo. I'm that anon earlier in the thread who thinks MP is perpetuating the hunt for some reason, so that's what I think is going on with it.
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>When you invade someone and they absolutely refuse to progress in the level knowing you're blocking the path somewhere
I love wasting peoples time like this.
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>>162237689
Seath wasnt proper dragon like mergo isnt a proper great one
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I'm level 58 and ludwig just stomped the shit out of me in co op.

Should I farm mergo's area for a while before going back to the DLC?

Where can I get the beast claws at? I'm interested in a beast build.
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>>162239239
DLC should be tackled around 60+, make sure you have 30-40+ Vit and at least a +9 weapon. Beast Claw is in the Ailing Loran Chalice dropped by Amygdala, it's on layer 2. 50/25+ Str/Skl is optimal for it.
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Is there any shortcut back to ludwig faster from first lamp? That sucks running that far to die.
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>>162240271
after you jump down into the area with the two big guys hug right and you should find a lamp
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Is there any rewards to the Vilebloods besides the Deep Respect gesture? I'm not getting anything and I think I'm at like 4 or 5 which was the next tier for the League dudes.
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>>162240379
None what so ever, the covenants in this game are severely underutilized.
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>>162240375
Fuark thanks. I was getting so salty.
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>It's a "Your weapons are bouncing off the walls but npc weapons don't" episode
5 games and they still haven't fixed this
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Are STR weapons objectively worse than SKL weapons?
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>>162241552
no. Str are better for PvE and Skl are better for PvE.
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is it worth getting 50 bloodtinge for the gatling gun

matter of fact, are there rally / regen gems strong enough that would negate the cost of blood bullets altogether?

or does evelyn always do more damage per bullet
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>>162241634
No, it'll get like a 70 AR increase only. But if you're doing a Bloodtinge Build 28 Strength for the Gatling Gun and Church Cannon is worth it. Don't bother with Rally gems, only Regen gems I use is on a pistol for +5 but it's barely noticeable. You could gem a weapon with 3 +5 Regen gems iirc. Evelyn does more damage per bullet.
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>>162241634
>>162241634
>is it worth getting 50 bloodtinge for the gatling gun
No.

The point of the big guns is not damage per bullet.
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>>162241916
why must you hurt me like this, lucy
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>>162241997
?
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>>162236870
rom is pretty hard senpai

i can only ever finish him off with a couple ashed cannon blasts
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How do you even level a bloodtinge build through the game? Wouldn't you be super weak until late game / bloodletter from dlc?
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>>162242314
See: >>162241916

Level Str first.
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>>162242314
>saw clever
>weak

Nah, I just stocked up on papers and rushed Amelia. Although I used the roflspear instead of the clever like you're supposed to.
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>>162242314
Yes and no. No matter what weapon you're using as a placeholder you'll be missing damage from scaling stats, but as long as you keep upgrading it as much as you can, it won't fall TOO far behind in terms of damage.
I did a BLT build recently and used a Hunter Axe as my placeholder weapon until I got the Chikage. It did respectable damage.
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>>162242314
Just get Str/Skl to 14/15 for Bloodletter, Chikage and Bowblade and keep pumping Vit and Blt while using a Saw. BB Pellets and Papers do most of the work.
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I'm on my first playthrough and I'm not finding anyone to co-op with. I'm level 67 and I'm at the Celestial Emissary/Micolash/Amygdala boss fights. Am I over-leveled or under-leveled?
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>>162231352
In the end it was both, you needed both the strength granted by blood echoes and the insight granted by eyes to finally ascend to a Great One.
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>>162242449
Most people don't wait in those areas to fight those bosses in co-op. Just ask here for help.
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>>162242308
Rom is easy as fuck. I think I've died to chalice Rom once in the last year.
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>>162242589
do you kill spiders or just rom
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I love my strength/vit character for the long HP bar but man something about arcane even with low vit has been really fun in pve so far. Just got the augur.
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>>162242639
Just Rom. Ignoring the spiders is pretty simple if you have some spatial awareness and familiarity with the game, but the cramped boss room can create some novelties. General rule for most people is ignore the spiders in the story and kill them in the chalices, but I always just ignore them.
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What exactly constitutes the end of game? As in, what needs to stay alive in order to not progress to NG+?

I just wanted to wander around collecting resources and grinding meme dungeons, but ended up going to NG+ at level 62 and now I am becoming rape incarnate

Never should have ate those umbilical cords
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>>162242537
Where do people usually co-op? I don't really need help I'm just lonely and want to do some multiplayer.
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>>162241612
wheel of logarius would like to have a word with you

the quickstep r1 fucks shit up hard in pvp
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>>162242814
SRRC is always active. You'll get summoned in seconds usually unless it's with a password.
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If I've gotten 25.3 and 26.3 fire triangles should I still autistically farm for a 27.2?
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>>162242918
Stick with the 26.3% unless it has a shitty curse. A Cold Abyssal Triangle could be better depending on what you're gemming.
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>>162242867
Rakuyo and Saif reign supreme
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>>162242639
imo it's easier to just kill the spiders first, especially in a low vit run so one of them jumping doesn't 1 hit KO you when you do something stupid. Just bait them out one by one and then whale on rom

>>162242790
gherman and/or [sp]moon prescence if you ate the cords[/sp]
as long as you don't beat either both of these fights (entering and leaving or entering and dying is fine) you're good. Even if you kill gehrman you can still die to the second boss and stay in NG.

>>162242814
not co-op but nightmare frontier has a very active pvp. I'm pretty much invaded or find someone to invade at least once every 2-3 minutes around the evening.
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>>162242639
Spider first when Rom is in her first, non-aggressive state. Then just focus on Rom for Story Rom and the spiders for CD Rom.
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>>162243030
I've already gotten two cold abyssal radials, I was trying a fire church pick. I know 5 ar isn't a huge difference, I just get annoyed not having best in slot items.
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>>162238342
>invade someone at Cainhurst
>go through the level all the way to the beginning
>peek through the big door
>a guy waiting at the elevetor
>another near the door
>host at the lamp
>kill two coopers
>host pulls the plug
I'll never understand why they are so afraid of dying
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>>162243285
Best setup is a Lost Church Pick with a Cold Radial, Cold Triangle, and a 24.8%+15 Fire Abyssal from Hotdog. A 27.2% Fire Triangle is okay for higher modifiers.
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>>162243291
I don't get why they even play the game when they just let phantoms do the whole thing for them. The moment you take out these guys summons they disconnect or do a mad dash back to the lantern, it's kinda sad honestly.
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Need help with bloodletting beast in chalice dungeon, pass is honk
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>>162244063
kind of glad people like that exist though. there's no better feeling than killing off cooperators one by one and going for the host last and seeing them completely lose their shit
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>>162244376
Even better is chasing them all the way back to the lamp, having them pull the plug, then invading them a few minutes later.

I've made people pull the plug with despite having a full party.
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>>162244376
It's especially fun when you pretty much one shot their coop partner right before the hosts eyes
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>>162244461
>invade someone, he plays nice and bows back, few seconds into the duel kill him in two hits
>he invades me a few minutes later and I can tell he's salty because he runs straight for me and tries to score a free hit while I'm bowing
>get out of the bow animation right when he's swinging, press r1 and one shot him
>next time he invades me an hour later he just turns around and runs off the cliff

players with bad manners make this game.

speaking of
>having them pull the plug, then invading them a few minutes later.

how do the re-invasion mechanics work in this game anyways? Is there also a cooldown like with the souls games where an invader can't invade again right away? I haven't noticed there being anything of the sort but you never know
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>>162244564
huh, I didn't know the parasite l2 could be parried. going to have to remember that next time I see someone spamming it
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>>162244858
You gotta anon, it is so satisfying to shut down a Jojo pose
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>>162244072
Anyone pls
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>>162244564
There's nothing worse than killing the overleved passworded summon who takes half your hp away with a swing and then dying to R1 spam of the host because you got cocky.
Invading at Forbidden Woods is fun.
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>>162244984
Honestly it feels really shitty when you fight a few guys and realize their builds are beyond shit, it almost feels like you're picking on retarded 6 year olds.
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>>162244984
what about the opposite?

>host and two cooperators kicking your ass, constantly having to retreat and heal
>host gets cocky and leaves the safety of the cooperators to get the kill himself
>cooperators get to watch host die while sprinting madly to try to reach him
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>>162244704
>Is there also a cooldown like with the souls games where an invader can't invade again right away?

If there is, I don't think it activates if they pull the plug.
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>>162245150
That's a pretty good one, nothing quite like telling a host "no, you're not good, your friend there has been doing all the heavy lifting for you this whole time"

Personally I like the fights where the host just keeps spamming gunshots while his buddy tries to deal with you pretty much alone, the host failing to realize he's not really helping at all.
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>>162245403
And after his buddy dies he's out of bullets and keeps using vials for more until it also runs out, you can almost taste their desperation.
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>>162245403
>Personally I like the fights where the host just keeps spamming gunshots while his buddy tries to deal with you pretty much alone, the host failing to realize he's not really helping at all.

>one cooperator actually trying to fight you
>host and/or other cooperator spamming a call beyond from as far back as they can lock on and missing every shot
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>lucifer is back
>people are responding to him
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How are you actually supposed to use anything other than saw R1 spam against most bosses when they'll just back away after a single hit against anything slower than that?
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>>162247143
Pass me the bleach
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>>162247282
You aren't. Saw R1 spam is designed to be the game's bread and butter, everything else is situational.
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>>162247282
Stop using slow weapons. It's easy.
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>>162247143
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>>162247356
>>162247401
Then why do people claim that Strength is better than Skill for PvE?
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>>162247491
Because you get great weapon variety at the beginning of the game, also Whirligig.
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>>162247491
Because strength has great fast weapons too.
Slow weapons are shit no matter what the build.
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>>162247709
What do you consider "slow" then? Because HMLS can't land a 2 hit combo on 90% of bosses, and it's not that slow.
Are untricked saw mashing and whirligig cheese really the only reliable ways to fight bosses?
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>>162247780
>What do you consider "slow" then?
Anything slower than the saws, duh.
To be honest if you're playing a game that emphasizes quick attacking and movement, and choose to use a slow weapon, that's on you. They're not supposed to be viable.
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>>162247780
If you can only hit bosses with these two weapons then you need to git gud. Even the Kirk and the Parasite, two of the slowest weapons in the game, can easily hit bosses with their standing R1s as soon as you get used to their movesets. It's all about pacing and distance, something the saws don't need to use as you just need to button smash.
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>>162248164
You can hit them with a single R1, but they'll step away from you before you can land a followup.
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first timer here

fuck old yharnum

i knocked over my water due to sheer excite when i killed that stupid faggot fuckface nigger shit fuck with the minigun

this game is great but man do the hunter npcs cheat
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>>162248089
>They're not supposed to be viable.
What is Hunter Axe
What is Beast Cutter
What is Amy Arm
What is Kirkhammer
What is Kos Parasite
What is Bloodletter
What is Boom Hammer
What is Holy Moon Sword
What is the WHEEL
What is Ludwig's
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>>162248408
Wheel is the only one out of those that's viable, and that's only because of the dash R1.
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>>162248408
why spoiler ludwigs
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>>162248254
What bosses are you talking about? I just did a Kirk run and could combo atacks very well.

>>162248448
But that's wrong senpai
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>>162248516
>What bosses are you talking about?
Ludwig, for one
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>>162248563
Thanks bb
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>>162248537
I'm not gonna lie, he was a pain in the ass without beast pellets but his second phase was much easier.
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>Bloodborne fans
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>>162249862
<- Bloodborne fans
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>>162249862
>dark souls fans
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why is nightmare frontier such a shit area
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>>162251057
Rocks
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>>162248320
>this game is great but man do the hunter npcs cheat

Well yeah, they have infinite ammo and aren't spending health to make blood bullets.
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>>162222774
>just went through frc great isz
>had HMPH and AMY
>after getting amy
>LEVEL 20 CURSED NOURISHING
>24% attack up
>67 arcane
>13% attack down

thanks from
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>>162251868
-ATK shouldn't even exist.
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>>162222774
>optional side area
>bell maidens with spiders
>2 wtiches of hemwick
>finally get to the treasure room
>one fucking chest
>great ones wisdom

No fuck YOU
Sometimes getting fucked that hard just makes you laugh, why is spelunking so fun? makes me almost wanna get ps+ just to do it with more people.
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So why did the plague begin? Was it because they were cursed by Kosmos, or was it because someone in Begynwerth(?) spread it? Which is it?
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>>162252337
I think the main theory is that the bergynwerth scholars fucking with the old blood made stuff like the beast plague
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would doing a buld that uses both the chikage and the bloodletter be viable, if i plan on mostly only using the blood form of both weapons?
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>>162252879
Of course, just get 50 blt and base everything else
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Which Chalice should I farm for Bloodtinge?
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>>162253392
It's all in the OP
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>>162253392
Why do you people not read the OP
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tfw doing chalice dungeons with a weak character

feelsbad
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>>162222774
Kek. I'd like to see a custom chalice building feature implemented, if only to explore an exact replica of this someday.
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>>162254134
Never realized how much I want this. It may not even fit with the game, but a chalice Mario Maker would be hilarious.
>replace every enemy with HMPH
>fill a room to the brim with spider maidens to the point that the game runs at a silky smooth 2 FPS
>throw in shark giants as mobs
Just imagine.
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>all enemies can rape you and you are forced to watch a 2 hour cutscene of your character getting brutally fucked
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>>162254304
>shark giants in chalice dungeons

STOP
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>>162256295
I frequently die when the boss is low on health since I inevitably stop playing safe, go for a final rush and die when I miscalculated stamina or life.

Not against BSB though.
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>>162256943
I thought I was safe since I threw a cocktail at the wall, then it hit my while I was behind it. Got the fucker now though.
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>>162254304
>frc final boss
>Rakuyo defenders
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>>162243076
That's why I'm playing in offline mind while I'm in there. I'm not afraid of pvp, it's just hard to navigate and I also don't want to get invaded
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>>162257303
>their Rakuyos look completely normal, but the hitboxes are as big as Maria's during her third phase, and they linger for about 1 second for some reason
>they drop new Rating 21 gems, but the curses will always be -15% ATK Down
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So when do the american hunters wake up? I¨m ready for the FC
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>>162259627
FC is 11pm-12am eurotimes on Saturday my dude
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>>162254304
>throw in shark giants as mobs

It's fun and games til someone gets hurt
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>>162248510
Because it's the number 1 meme crutch weapon for Soulsfags and newbs, if you do radom co-op anywhere, 9/10 it's someone with Ludwig's
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>>162248448
Wheel isn't even the best weapon in that list
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>>162262465
I overlooked the Bloodletter, but the Bloodletter really isn't even slow
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>do new play through with friend
>he missed eileen's quest
>ask him to share play the game after we beat rom
>beat rom
>so hype for watching him get wrecked by Crow
>CONNECTION TOO SLOW FOR SHARE PLAY

Fuck you, Sweden. I thought you guys had good internet. Well, he is getting wrecked and begging for tips. "Gotta do it on your own, buddy", I tell him.

WMUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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>exhaustively explore the whole dungeon to get every scrap of material to fuel the next dungeon
or
>skip treasure rooms, bumrush the bosses for gems, buy materials with insight and do another NG cycle when you run out
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Does loran have any relation to Lordran?
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>>162263662
Explore, or just go as far as you can into the chalices and go into NG+ to buy materials. You can't even buy the necessary materials for later chalices at shops in NG.
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How the fuck do you even pronounce Ihyll anyway?

Eye-hill? Or like Aisle? Ee-ill? Ee-hill?
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>>162264139
It's spelled イル in Japanese, so probably ee-ill or ee-hill.
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>over 2 million echoes
>9 kin coldblood (12)s
>2 great one coldbloods
>literally all useless now

Level restrictions were a mistake, I hate having all this stuff with nothing to spend it on and no way to send it to other hunters. I want to be a Spooky Santa and leave people coldbloods.
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>>162264516
Neat, didn't know this
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>>162264746
What ng cycle are you on right now?
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>>162265249
Not even on NG+, build's just finished, items maxed out, sitting around with a useless resource now
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>>162264746
Dark Souls 2 didn't have level restrictions and look how that ended up.
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>>162265843
Dark Souls 2 was still fine even with everyone at level 200+.
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>>162265552
Then there are two options for you.
First, try to get 100% achievements. Not that fancy, I know, but it does increase the play-time a decent ammount.
Or, you could start a new character, and try to go with a "theme" build. In DaS1, when I beat the game, I decided to make a new character and try out an "all dragon" build, using only dragon-type weapons and rushed for the path of the dragon items.
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>>162265970
Oh, this is like my tenth playthrough, I have the plat, finally made a pure arc character, I just lament the eventual uselessness of echoes. I wish you could do something else with them or gift the coldbloods to other hunters or something.
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Can a brother help me kill abhorrent beast? pass bbg
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So after Rom, I'm suppose to go to the clinic for the cainhurts summons right?
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>>162266440
You can get the summons after killing amelia.
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>>162266351
get poison knives senpai
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>>162266351
Ailing or Lower Loran?
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>>162267069
Never mind, got him
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>>162264516
>イル
You sure it's not イヒル?
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Why has nobody told me that HLMS is so fucking broken in PvE.
1 try for Maria, 2 for Orphan, 1 for Gehrman and meme presence. This thing is so freaking strong.
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>>162266706
Well I've already killed Rom. Cuz umbilical cord isn't until after Blood Moon.
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>>162268693
You don't have to kill Iosefka to get the summons from the clinic. They're available as soon as you get to the Woods, and you can access Cainhurst once the Hemwick witches are dead.
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>>162269096
I feel like you guys are missing the point.
I'm asking which boss I should do after Rom. I know the areas I can go to. In curious as to which area I should go to.
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Lvl42 in need of help with Logarius. Pls respond.
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>>162269951
Literally whichever you want.
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>>162269951
Just do whatever the fuck you want. It's not like BB is super large.
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>>162270190
sure omw
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>>162269951
Just go wherever you need to go. Why is this even a question?
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>>162270190
wait, password?
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>>162270469
Bbg
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Thanks Confederate. Much appreciated.
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>>162271096
you know what would be neat? If we could have used Logarius's weapon. Could be a skill/arc weapon that transforms from a long scythe into a scythe and dagger
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>>162271194
Or the pthumerian elder spear thing, that transforms into literally every single weapon in Dark Souls.
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What are your thoughts on the Threaded Cane, bbg?
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>>162272589
Excellent weapon that makes some bosses much easier. It needs some practice though since it doesn't cause much stun compared to even other skill weapons while in whip mode.
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Whats the best way to get materials for cursed rotted cursed? You get so few and there fairly insight expensive
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What's a good backup weapon on a 50/25 Beast Cutter Character?
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What's an umbilical cord?
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>>162274284
saw cleaver
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>>162274167
Follow the chalice speed run to FRC Isz guide. You'll pick up just enough to open an FRC Depth 5.
Otherwise, go spelunking and you'll find yourself drowning in materials. You can go to NG+ as well.
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On a 50/25/25 moonlight sword build, should my backup weapons just be the usual strength weapons? Only using the moonlight sword and the whirligig right now.
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>>162275602
Primarily Strength weapons, but Skill/Quality weapons can be used if you slot a Heavy on a weapon like the Burial Blade.
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>>162274297
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbilical_cord
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>>162276945
>the picture is a three minute child
HOW DEEP DOES IT GO
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Is it possible to un-update the game?
I want to fuck around with unpatched rifle spear so I can experience how bullshit that was
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>tfw I have over 2,000 hours in BB
>the only game that has ever come that close in terms of hours is Animal Crossing New Leaf
I can't let go, lads.
I just can't.
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>>162277935
Only if you used physical copies.
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>>162278808
how do you know how many hours you have?
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>>162279298
I just add up all the hours on my characters. There's a bit more, though, from savescumming and deleted characters.
As for Animal Crossing, the 3DS automatically gives a record of how many hours you've spent on each game, and your average playtime per session.
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>25 str/50 arc
>1 handed MLGS does more damage than 2 handed
I thought 2handed converted physical to arc damage?
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>>162280376
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Is this lore?
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>>162280786
Hack the ps4 already, I want to see soime cut content.
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>>162274167
Exploring all the treasure rooms will give you back a lot of materials, but even still there's usually a net loss, so you have to make up the difference by buying them with insight.
The fastest way to get insight is to go through the next NG+ cycle. When I run out of dungeon materials I can get through most of the main game and get back to 99 insight (plus a ton of madman's knowledge, blood dregs and 4 umbilical cords) in a few hours.
Even NG+7 is easier than a Depth 5 FRC dungeon.

>>162274297
Fun fact: the Moon Presence's face is meant to resemble a cross-section of an umbilical cord.
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>you will never bully lady maria sexually
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>STR scalling +50.75
>Add physical ATK+12.7
>WPN durability DOWN -65.3

Where do it put this? Tonitrus? The trash can?
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So how many of you have read some Lovecraft since playing Bloodborne?
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>find guy eating literal corpses in the forest
>asks me if i know a safe space
>nope.jpg guy looks like a psycho
>decide to murder him

jesus fucking christ i was so so not prepared.

and now i have to run through these giant fucking woods again, holy fuck that was scary
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>>162284568
I read most of Lovecraft's stuff when I was just in high school but Bloodborne definetly made me feel like rereading some of his work.
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>>162284648
Cheese him with poison knives. The best thing to do is get behind him while he attacks and hit 1-2 times, then backstep away, but it is too tight where you fight him, so hide.
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>>162284478
Put two of them in a skill weapon when you have 50/25 and it might be marginally better than tempering gems.
Never put durability down on a Tonitrus, the durability already sucks. Also never put physical gems on a Tonitrus, the stat screen lies. Bolt gems are better.
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>>162284648
this guy gets the best reactions.

I didnt notice how fucked up he looked until after I told him oedon was safe.

Then I noticed the corpses, and his hands and I was like fuck.

Figured I'd end him right then and there, but oh MAN i was not expecting that.
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>>162284648
good thing you didn't send him to the chapel
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>>162285364
yeah no kidding, i wish there was a camera on me at the time haha

>>162284851
the moment he killed me i thought - damn should have used those knives. oh well

>>162285508
i figured either him or the sceptical dude were going to be the Yurt of this game, i actually tried trusting the skeptic dude though and sent him to chapel but the dumbass went to Iosefka and got ayyyy'd.

Right i'm off after this because i don't want spoilers, but i just found the cannon and i'm on a STR build. Is it viable at all without Bloodtinge because the idea of Cannon + KirkHammer on my righteous cleric build gives me a huge boner
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What is the number one tip you guys have for dodging in this game? I keep getting destroyed by enemies power attacks because either they wind up for ridiculously long and I dodge too early, or I hit an enemy and start a second attack after they've started their own so I get hit because I have to commit to my attack.

How do you know when an enemy will or will not be stunned by your attack? Trial and error?
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>>162284478
>not even +65 scaling
Into the trash it goes.
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>>162285881
>What is the number one tip you guys have for dodging in this game?
Dodging does not mean you're safe. You cannot just spam panic dodges and expect the i-frames to save you.

>How do you know when an enemy will or will not be stunned by your attack? Trial and error?
More or less. You should be able to tell immediately who gets stunned by your attacks, because either they always will, or they won't the first time you hit them.
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>>162285881
Assuming it's not AoE, try dodging towards the enemy attack, not away from it unless you're sure you'll immediately end up out of his range. And it's better to assume your attacks won't stun the enemy unless it's around human sized, unless you know they do.
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Please tell me about your favorite bloodborne girl and why you like her.

This is important.
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>>162287142
my hunter
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>>162287142
The Plain Doll.
>kind and lovely
>actually cares about you
>adorable accent
What is there not to love?
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>>162287275
Your mom.
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>>162287275
What is her accent anyway?
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>>162268293
100% sure.
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>>162285881
try looking at your character while the enemy is winding up, and watching for the enemy attacks in your peripheral vision. Plan out where you can possibly dodge to beforehand based on the terrain, and then choose which one of those possibiities you will go to based on the enemy's type of attack. Some big enemies like Winter Lanterns can be stun-locked if you have a fast enough weapon and you start your attack when they are not attacking themselves

also, just do only singular fast attacks one at a time until you know the enemy's moves

>>162286241
lots of enemies become much harder to stun only when they are doing certain attacks
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>>162288486
sounds Russian to me
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I FUCKING HATE ABHORRENT FUCKING MEME

FUCKING MEME SHIT ENEMY
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>>162289051
Fun fight, though. Just learn to dodge.
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>>162288486
It sounds Russian to me

PSA: for a laff, listen to her dialogue on youtube at a reduced speed
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So what's the optimal build for HMLS?

I got a 50/25/5/25 and the untricked mode does a little bit more DMG but the tricked does 600-700 DMG so I don't think it's that bad
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>>162289051
Just play passively and keep him poisoned for a little extra damage too.
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>>162289032
>>162289339
I think Doll's VA is Hungarian or something
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>>162289375
Why is it that we have been getting this question at least twice every thread lately?
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>>162289375
25/25/25 base.
Drop 25 more into str or arc depending on how you want to use it.
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anyone wanna help me with logarius?

pass is bbg
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Reiterpallasch or chikage for my 50 bt build?
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>>162290791
chikage
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>>162290791
Bloodletter because Chikage is lame.
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>>162222774

>guillotines

How the fuck do they work? I have run into several where it just appeared to be impossible to ever get past them. I just gave up eventually. Can you always get past them or did From fuck up?
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Need help against undead giant on RFC isz layer 1.

Glyph: wx3yqyxb
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>enjoying my first playthrough
>shadows of yharnam

Miyazaki cant make one fucking game without including a gank boss can he?
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>>162291587
You know you can summon two NPCs for that fight, right?
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>>162291942
>lucy still lurks these generals

jesus christ dude i haven't seen you since you got repeatedly btfo in the DaS1 threads
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>>162291291
Git gud.

>>162291587
Shadows are easy.
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>>162293084

3? The impossible one had 5. Stop playing story dungeons, kiddo.
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>>162293084
i know i know

i keep getting the sword guy down low, then they transform and meme me.

i get that they're weak to bolt and the weeb can be parried, anything else i'm missing? I feel like using my Kirkhammer in hammer form is basically useless
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>>162293084
I don't get it. You could have easily just ran past the second guillotine instead of making a circle.
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>Want to make bloodletter build
>Locked behind rape horse and pizza girl
>Would have to redo chalice dungeons again too
Fuck me, I'm going back to Dark Souls. Why can't players drop weapons, it's not like weapons are unbalanced at low level upgraded unlike some weapons in the Souls series.
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>>162293201
5 is perfectly doable.

>>162293292
The idea is to eliminate them one at a time. I like to kill the sword first and save the caster for last. They have no poise and don't hit exceptionally hard. Dancing around and doing stupid bullshit like interrupts and injuring all three of them at once is what makes them seem difficult.
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I keep hearing about this crow lady in the cathedral ward, but I haven't seen her even once. Is there something I missed?
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>>162293423
>Fuck me, I'm going back to Dark Souls
Goodbye!

If you had asked, it's pretty certain a twink or two would have been willing to help you all the way to the Bloodletter
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>>162293775
You gotta talk to her in the rafters of the Yharnam sewers first, then take the exit right in front of you when you spawn into the Cathedral Ward, walk outside and look to your immediate left, she's standing by the railings.
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>>162293819
Last time I tried I think the guy got mad and suicided. That or he wasn't good enough to solo HP inflated ludwig
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>>162290791
Reiterpallasch is basically a pure skill weapon. You could use the bowblade as a backup weapon for the chikage.
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>>162293423
Use my BLT build. Use the axe until you get the Blood letter. Use physical Droplet gems.
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>>162294252
Oh, was that you guys a couple of threads ago? I was wondering what had happened to you all. I usually like following the co-op through thread posts. Pretty entertaining.
How bad was the downscaling? What level are you?
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>>162294252
Asking for help and asking a twink to essentially solo a boss for you are two different things.

I solo'd Lud at BL37. If you can't even help the anons you recruit you're just a faggot.
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Beast claw build or broccoli man for PvE coop action.
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>>162294523
Beast Claw
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>>162294523
Be a REEEE, ayys are gays.
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>>162294252
>the guy I summoned didn't solo the boss I cant beat and rage quit the game over lmao what a shitter right guys?
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>>162294507
>Getting 1 shot by ludwig
No thank you
>>162294610
>>162294507
When I asked for help I explicitly asked if they wanted to solo ludwig for me, fuck off it's not like the guy didn't know
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>>162294713
>When I asked for help I explicitly asked if they wanted to solo ludwig for me, fuck off it's not like the guy didn't know
Were you at least level 20?
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>>162294610
I fucking hate people dude. Seriously.

>>162294713
Weren't you leaving already?
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>>162294860
Yeah
>>162294861
I'm just taking a break, I'll keep posting ITT anyways
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>>162294713
whatever fag go back to /dsg/
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how do i go spelunking? i know how to make a chalice from the game or the ones you get from chalice bosses obviously and i know how to use glyphs but dont know how to make a randomly generated dungeon to explore.
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>>162295012
>Ask someone to kill a boss for me, literally ask if they would mind soloing him for me
>"WOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO FIGHT HIM ALONE"
autism
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>>162294990
>F-fuck this I'm leaving!
>Nah jk give me more (You)s :^)

Truly a faggot worthy of /dsg/'s company. You'll fit right in.
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>>162294523
Claw, ayy lmao is honestly pretty shit for PvE, it's pretty much a pvp dedicated build.
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>>162295095
Root chalices. You need the associated materials to make them, and for FRC roots in particular you'll need specific curse ritual materials.
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bbg and dsg dont get along?
Wha
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>>162295176
I thought you were leaving?
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>>162295232
each root is random each time you make it?
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>>162295203

parasite requires skill is all
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>>162295304
Yes, random layout. The only thing you're really in control of is what chalice the root is of, and the curses which, in turn, affect the enemies you'll encounter.
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>>162295365
Comparatively speaking, Arcane is pretty shit for PvE. And since it's a topic of comparison...
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>>162295476
cool thankjs man
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>>162295548
Happy spelunking, hunter.
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>>162293423
Builds are a meme. Just make one level 300 character that can use anything.
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>>162295304
Yes and no. Every time you perform a root chalice ritual, a randomly laid out chalice is generated.

However, once you have made said chalice, you can search for it by glyph, and glyphs always generate the same chalice layout.
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>>162295496
I dunno mane spamming gloves is fucking neato

Increased elemental damage is nice, too, but I'll be honest, I'm not getting the numbers on me AR I was hoping for, but I'm also a literal retard and can't into math
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What is the lore behind all the weapons that are meant to be used against hunters doing a bit of arcane damage?
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>>162295889
Made from a metal that fell from the sky.
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>>162294208
I just looked up where she was in the semesters and went there, but she wasn't there.

Does she only appear on certain conditions?
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>>162242308
The only time you should die on Rom is if you get too greedy and don't notice one of his spiders sneaking up on you. Everything else is telegraphed and easy to dodge.
>>
Blood Dregs and Vermin are the same thing, right?
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>>162296507
What makes you think that?
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>>162296172
You gotta meet her there in the rafters at the beginning of the game, before you either beat Gascoigne or unlock Cathedral Ward, not sure which, probably the latter. So just don't unlock the Oedon Tomb gate.

Once you've unlocked the Cathedral Ward, she ought to be standing right outside the exist in front of you, if not, reload the area or wait til you trigger nightfall. Once she's there, talk to her, go back through Oedon Chapel and kill Henryk.

The next step is after you've killed Rom and caused the Blood Moon to appear, she's sitting outside the Grand Cathedral where you killed Amelia. You'll notice the Grand Cathedral lamp is unusable, go to her from the Cathedral Ward lamp and you'll find out why.
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>>162296507
One is blood sperm, the other is the root of all impurity.
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>>162296507
I think Blood dregs are a byproduct of...something. Where as Vermin are actual centipeeds inside someone's blood (or w/e the fuck Miazaki came up with this time).

http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Blood+Dreg
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Vermin
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>>162296672
I've already triggered night, but the only thing there is an Amygdala.
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>>162296629
The fact that you can get either from any hunter in the game. It's just a matter of your perspective, the rune you're wearing.

>>162296831
That's what I mean. Vermin are impurities in blood, Old Ones like impure blood, the Church and the Vilebloods are both trying to accumulate impurities to get a Great One to impregnate their women. The rivalry between Adella and Arianna is just a microcosm of the whole thing.
>Both Oedon, and Oedon's inadvertent worshippers, surreptitiously seek the precious blood
The Church and the Vilebloods have the exact same goal. It's just like how God and the Old One in DeS are the same thing.
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>>162297481
see
>>162296835

Vermin are not simply "impurities" they're actual bugs/creatures inside someones bloodstream.
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>>162297481
No man, if they liked impure blood Annalise would be pregnant and you wouldn't have to collect blood sperm.
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>beasts fear and are weak to fire
>Beast Possessed Soul doesn't give a fuck


Explain this
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I am currently at BL70. I'm interested in PvE at the moment. Should I stay at this BL or can I push it further?

Also, is the Amygdalan Arm too slow for PvE? I also use the Kirkhammer but have been using it since the beginning
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>>162297862
Annalise has been sealed in a chamber for hundreds of years. Arianna unwittingly fills her role by spending too long in Oedon chapel.

>>162297769
>Vermin are not simply "impurities" they're actual bugs/creatures
Why not both? Centipedes are impure creatures in Japanese folklore, it makes sense that the visual representation of vermin is something like a centipede. Or rather, a centipede to the faction that hates them. The faction that likes vermin sees them as sperm.

>>162298298
My guess is that he's one of the few that intentionally embraced their beasthood (like the Abhorrent Beast, Laurence and arguably Paarl, if you believe that Paarl is Archibald). If he was a pyromancer before turning (there are pyromancers all over Pthumeru), then maybe he'd still be able to control it after turning. The bigger mystery is why the fuck there's one in Yharnam underneath the workshop.
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>>162298298
>beast possessed
>possessed

It's not necessarily a beast, it use fire magic

It's a Pthumerian fuck up of some kind
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>>162299052
So how did Fake Iosefka get pregnant?
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>>162295176
This is a new level of shittery. You just want to stand in the back and not do shit while someone else plays the game for you? What the fuck?
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>>162299227
Oedon gave her the formless D
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>The two bloodtinge main weapons only scale with bloodtinge when 2handed, locking you out of your sidearm
What schizophrenic game design.
Did they think having a gun and weapon scale off the same stat and being able to use both as once would be overpowered?
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>>162298298
>Beast Possesed Souls are also one of the few enemies in the game that actually attack other mobs (phtumerians and other beasts included) should they meet.

What does this mean?
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What are the nightmare layers, top to bottom?

>Nightmare of Mensis
>Nightmare Frontier
>Fishing Hamlet
>Hunter's Nightmare

Any others?
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>>162300596
Mensis>Frontier>Hamlet>Hunter's, there might be others but I don't think we encounter them. Does the Hunter's Dream count as part of the Nightmare world?
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>>162300596
Top to bottom in the order you gave, with the Hunter's Dream at the very bottom, only because every option for spawning in is 'awaken above ground'. I think it sits at the absolute bottom.
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>>162299052
I see where you're going with this, but that doesn't work because we see centipede things all the time even if we don't have either rune. I think it's that vermin appear in impure blood as natural habitat, but blood sperm is Oedon trying to to spread his seed everywhere. Annalise is both an ara ara old lady and immortal, possibly undead, not to mention the helmet sealing her in some manner; chances are these are impeding her attempts at pregnancy even with the sperm.

Or, jyst throwing it out there, maybe given enough time the sperm turns into centipedes. But I doubt it.
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>>162300861
Also if you somehow manage to fall out of bounds, in seemingly every area.
You'll always respawn back at Hunter's Dream.
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>>162300369
The whole point is to make you choose between having your gun, or having your weapons if you go pure Bloodtinge, and to make hybridizing more worthwhile.
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only trophies I have left to plat the game are the two where you have to get all the hunter weapons/tools. Does this have to be done in one playthrough / character? Or is this calculated over all your playthroughs / characters?

Also, which of the listed glyphs is the FC actually at? Hoping to participate in my first fc tomorrow.
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>>162302020
>Also, which of the listed glyphs is the FC actually at?
Whichever is decided on.

And yes, the weapons/tools must all be on a single character.
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>>162301003
That's true, actually, I remembered getting slammed through the map by Bloodletting Beast once and respawning back in the Dream.
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>>162302159
fuck, guess I'll do it on my latest character's NG+ run. Do uncanny/lost versions of weapons found in chalices count? Or do I have to get the regular versions?
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>>162302421
Any version of the weapon counts, so you only have to get one. Uncanny Burial Blade, for example, counts towards the trophy. Basically, as long as you get the weapon, regardless of version, you're good.
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>>162302519
Sweet, might actually be faster to just get all the weapons from layer 1 chalice glyphs then. Thanks!
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>>162300405
>beast possessed souls attack anything near them
>Old hunters attack anything near them
BPS confirmed for old hunters
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i shouldn't be struggling with rom and with summoning for rom at ~lv40 right? the summoning range seems pretty large but no one wants to help.

i have a phobia ok. no bully.
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>>162304631
i can help you if you want it, just put on a password
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>>162304631
rom seems intimidating as fuck your first playthrough but he's actually a bit of a pushover

here's how to beat him easily-
for the first phase,
>take out spiders first by baiting them one by one and hitting them in the back (not their head)
>run to his side and pummel him until he teleports, bolt paper or a bolt weapon helps
second and third phase do the exact same thing but watch him out of the corner of your eye while you kill the spiders, when he curls into a U shape that means he's summoning the spikes out of the ground around him, as long as you're not directly up against him you should be able to clear it with a few quicksteps or rolls back. If he rises up on his hind legs, that means he's going to cast meteors at you, just start running straight parallel to him and he'll miss all of them. When you kill the spiders run up and keep bashing him again, he'll teleport for a last and final time and you need to do all of the above one more time.
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I hate dags.
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>>162305359
>he
>him
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>>162305359

I got her to like 15% once but she's killed me quite a lot. Being surrounded by them buggers is stressful

>>162305051

Ok thanks bro it's vgbg123
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>>162306123
I know what you mean, first playthrough I also tried ignoring the bugs and just going straight for her but that's not the best of ideas. There's really no rush since rom can't really do much to you if you're not right up against her, so you can take as long as you want to kill off the spiders before running up and r1 spamming her into oblivion.
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>>162306123
ok omw
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Anyone want to help me farm Pthumerian Elder for Cold Radials? Is that a thing we do here?
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I just got to Cainhurst Castle for the first time; and should I join the vilebloods and kill Alfy for the wheel stuff, or doit the other way around?
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>>162306374
>Speaking blasphemy
Anon, we need to talk.
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>>162306374
Do what you think is right.
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>>162306336
I'll join you.
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>>162306374
you can join the vilebloods and not kill alfy
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>>162306123
i'll join as well
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Anyone up for a bit of dungeon crawling? I'm about to make a fresh CRF Isz. Glyph is wpf8zp8x, password will be bbgisz.
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>>162306309

NOW IM IN SILENT FUCKING HILL. thanks fer nothin'.
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>>162306663
Ringing Small Bell
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>>162306874
Want me to head back to the first lamp? I'm not too deep in.
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>>162306542
Cheers m8

I've never done this before so apologies if this is needless info

Ihyll chalice

Glyph: bigkr99w

Pass: arcfag
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>>162306973
i'll join as well
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>>162167793
Sooo i was helping this dude out at Bergenwyrth. Then all of a sudden the 3 hp bars for the shadows of yerham (spell check). Was tgis a bug or could this guy of been hacking?
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>>162306942
Or on second thought, I'll join you later I'm going to help>>162306973
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>>162307342
Sure thing man, go for it.
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>>162306542
>>162307251
Thanks lads! Ringing now
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>>162307306
All of a sudden their hp bars popped up*
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>>162307424
if you've helped or invaded alot of people in Byrgenwerth.
You'll come to realise just how frequently they appear.
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>>162307306
>>162307424
known bug
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Fighting maria on NG+ pass is lad if anyone wants in
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New to the game. Does summoning/killing Gascione have any effects on the boss? Is it possible to bring him to his bossfight?
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>>162306973
SRRC is taking a while. You're on layer 3 right?
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>>162306973

>stunlocked to death
ringing again
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>two witches in the side area, both in sadistic spots
Have you ever decided something's beyond trying?
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>>162306663
>missed chalice spelunking cause I decided to go take an hour long shit
Well goddammit
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>>162308156
Yep, layer 3
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>>162308379
Missed? I'm still ringing. I keep my bell ringing the whole way through.
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>>162307886
still waiting at maria, she is fucking me
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>>162308694
omw, i'm always down for some bullying
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>>162308837
that was some serious bullying
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>>162309108
that was some quality bullying, yes
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>>162307556
Ah lol i do not come here to coop very often.
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>>162309140
thanks for the help m8y
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Jesus Kosm this lad doesn't kid around, always thought Elder was the easy one, too
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>>162309218
if you need help with anything else let me know
I'll be here for at least another three hours
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>>162309281
that would be a lot of fun but i told myself i would study for finals after killing maria
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>>162309232
most peeps spam BSE in his second phaze as he tends to be easier to stun at that point and isn't as teleport-happy.
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>>162309353
do that then, I failed two of my finals for the same reason
it's the dumbest thing I've ever done I've been feeling like shit this past week because of it
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>>162309421
Might try that, then

Got fucking invaded waiting for you lads down here, dunno where they are, though, yamada the 3rd waits
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>>162309513
You're in good company, I might fail a class that's keeping me from graduating for not completing a project because of playing too much
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>>162309513
>>162309903
I am so fucking jealous that you fags are in school.

>>162309232
Dodge to 2 o' clock, hit, repeat until phase 2. In phase 2 you can stunlock him indefinitely with BSE spam; just keep your distance so he doesn't teleport.

If you're not an Arc build I don't know what to tell you.
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>>162310151
>Dodge to 2 o' clock, hit, repeat until phase 2. In phase 2 you can stunlock him indefinitely with BSE spam; just keep your distance so he doesn't teleport.

Works like a charm, honestly didn't think he was so stunnable, but goddamn that's some bullying
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Ringing again for Elder
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>>162310540
alrighty
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>two hemwick witches, both on different paths
>manage to make it through one path alive
>get this
T-thanks. I guess I already had what was in the coffer.
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>>162309232
just parry lmao
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NEW THREAD LADS

>>162311346
>>162311346
>>162311346
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>>162310540
man it's taking a while this time around
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