/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

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>>162158251
First for shitposts

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First for Archers, may you rest in piece.

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nth for yet another month of minimally viable robots.

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So have we concluded that the new escort game mode will be a cluster fuck?
It better be a short escort distance
>inb4 all the way across alpine

>>162158782
>NARC the VIP
>PGI AI doesn't understand how to take cover, or how to stop moving forward
> :^) ggclothes

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>>162158782
>all the way across polar
can't wait

>escort
>canyon
>atlas vip gets stuck on some small rock and can't get around it
oh boy

>>162159063
>implying it wont just have a preset path

>>162158782
Yeah, we've concluded that.

Either the VIP gets narced and/ or tagged by a light and shat on by a single LRM boat, or people set up ambush points across it's preset path and snipe it to hell with ERPPC and gauss shots.

And even if neither of those are available, there will be one or two lights that will just disengage from the main skirmish going on and go buttfuck that atlas to death.

>>162159448
How fast can a 6SPL locust kill an atlas from behind?

>>162158902
>>162159448
The only one who will have fun in Escort is a 3ams shitfox

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Anything to do with a FS9-S(C)?
Worth putting flamers or an ams or two on it?

>>162159853
>(C)
nigga what the fuck are you doing

>>162159853
Also Mpl cooldown 5 worth?
>>162160035
NO
U

>>162160070
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SPEND MONEY ON A CHAMPION MECH WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY FOR WHAT PURPOSE

>>162160070
Because free MC
Because too lazy to farm for cbills

>>162160172
(C) MECHS GIVE YOU NO EXTRA CBILLS YOU FOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>162160172
meant for >>162160131
>(C) MECHS GIVE YOU NO EXTRA CBILLS YOU FOOOOOOOOOOOL
I couldnt be fucked making more cbills to buy one
Therefore I used MC

>>162160264
>>162160172
why the flying fuck would you not buy a hero instead
Literally what are you doing

>>162160264
So why didn't you just buy a normal variant with MC for much less?

so in the new skill tree system, have they said if every mech has their own XP pool like now or if it's one XP pool shared between all mechs?

>>162159485
Even if it's a stock atlas or one that has full armour + "quirks," it'll die before slower, better equipped mechs can get to it.

An arctic shitter pumps out 36 damage each alpha, it can do this thrice in a row before having to cool off.

A stock atlas has 28 rear CT armour, and 62 structure, with an added +31 structure from current quirks. That's a total of 121 hitpoints from the rear.

So an arctic cheetah needs to do 4 alpha strikes to kill the VIP if it's a stock atlas. Locust needs 5 and 1 extra small pulse laser shots to kill it off.

Something like a 12 c-SPL nova or stormcrow? Two alpha strikes and it's gone. Pakhet huntsman with the SRM 80 bomb? One and a half direct alpha strike hits to the CT rear.

>>162160509
GXP is shared between all mechs like now.

Regular XP is mech specific.

C-bills can be used to purchase skill nodes but at a slightly higher price than with XP.

Re-specialization costs c-bills, and then you have to re-purchase those previously bought skill nodes.

Re-specialization bought with MC allows you to retain those skill nodes and merely re-position them.

Piggy jewry ahoy!

>>162160724
>and then you have to re-purchase those previously bought skill nodes.
thanks PGI

>>162160724
So there's literally no point in picking anything but mobility and survivability skills. Unless you're a nuclear jenner that uses nothing but surms or something.

>>162160880
Further proving the point the gold mens have that this system will only promote cookie-cutter builds and nothing else.

Literally nothing will change from the current skill system, except quirks are going away.

gg no re

>>162161017
how are you this dumb

>>162160724
What's that? You like actually using omni-mechs because you can try different loadouts easier, just like actual omni-mechs? Too bad goy, they're onto for minmaxing now.

>No quirks
>Urbanmech
>Put all xp into movement and structure
>Ac20 quirks too
Ez wins to come

>ER PPC's will never be worth it
>Not making them no-travel time lightning zaps
>Not making them worth the heat
>I will never get lightning PPC's in a Mechwarrior game
>I will have to look at MW4's intro and frown every time the Uziel zaps the Vulture for the rest of my life

>>162161901
ERPPC works better in the current meta of Clan goose and pepsi.

>>162161901
>I will never get lightning PPC's in a Mechwarrior game
>I will have to look at MW4's intro and frown every time the Uziel zaps the Vulture for the rest of my life
That shot from the trailer are about 150m and still slow as shit
The mwo shots at 150 are 2x quicker
>inb4 the old gold men with nostalgia goggles show

>>162161901
ERPPC's are always worth it, purely from a tonnage/range/damage ratio.

Regular PPCs, however, will never, ever be useful. Honestly I believe that regular PPC's should be no-travel time lightning zaps to compensate for being massively inferior in every regard. Especially when they have MWO's min-range.

>>162162184
>That shot from the trailer are about 150m and still slow as shit
You literally don't see it traveling though. It's shot of it being emitted, cut to shot of it hitting, where it hits entirely as a beam in a single frame.

That said, that scene also has slow ass star wars blaster lasers traveling at the same speed as the machineguns.

That's it, time to go back down the memory lane
Post your 2012 memes
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=31&l=65c6b9b7889b17063b199a3571428ab0b46a2993

>>162161653
>yfw shitcrows with spl qwerks

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=19&l=fce1b109bfb36c46c4292e369472ee26282bf56c
ALL
DAY
EVERY
DAY
OH
YEAH

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>>162162184
>not wanting Doom style plasma rifle PPCs from MW2

Step it up with the nostalgia goggles senpai.

>>162163518
>long range weapon
>projectile speed of a snail

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>>162163518
BAHAHA
People actually like this old shit
Fuck I can see why MWO is being held back, people want to return to this shit

>>162163518
those are some effective heatsinks desu

>>162163951
Yeah, it's almost like they work properly or something.

I only just found out about MW5: Mercenaries
Fucking wish I was around to see you guys' reactions, shit

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>>162164607
Let me sup it up for you in one picture.

seems like the new ppc boat would be a little hot

>>162165032
Why can't I have this as a decal yet in MWO?

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>>162163779
MW2 is a mech sim while MWO is a thinking man's shooter™. As in they now think the definition of a Mech game is an FPS featuring giant metal people running around twitch shooting with a mouse and keyboard instead of vehicles that are piloted with sticks, throttles and foot pedals. Which is funny considering the whole startup animation sequence for every drop shows the pilot using those controls.

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>assumed my teammates weren't mouth breathing autistic retards
>moved in to help a Kodiak and Cyclops getting shot at
>they run away and leave in in a 3v1 instead of cleaning up the damaged mechs with me

wewlad these old man games

>>162166476
>solo queue
>ever bothering to help assaults

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>>162166281
Changes in game genre trends over time family
No one who was born to the HD graphic'ing of games dont enjoy shitty doom graphic style games that force you to play with Keyboard & Pedals®
Old gold men need to let go and have to face the future, with or without their consent

bamp

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>Play locust 1e
>Get hailed as a god
Feels good man

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>>162158251
I saw the trailer to MW5 yesterday and got hyped.

Wanted to see if there's any mech games worth playing and here you guys are.

Downloading MWO right now. Wish me luck.

>>162170559
Well, good luck. You're going to need it.

>>162170559
UE4 has TXAA come on PGI just come on learn to use at least one type of AA fuck

>>162171780
Dude just play in 4K for less jaggies lmao.

>>162166710
This
Literally nobody wants to move and shoot using a fucking stick and pedals
Stick and pedals are for planes, not mechs

>>162172475
then why are mechs piloted with stick and pedals, hmm?
check mate

>>162166281
>>162172604

They ripped off plane cockpits for the early mech games because more people were familiar with them. They really should have ripped off tanker controls for a proper sim instead.

>>162172672
You're on the right track but tanks have a separate gunner and driver in most cases.

Archer 2-R with an 80.7 damage alpha, yes or no?

>>162172604
/r/-ing ridiculous neurohelm pics

>>162173416
How many alpha's before shutting down?

>>162173634
Two, actually. Dropping damage by 10 points gives you two, a short wait and a third one.

>>162162202
pretty sure that's nightcrawler

>>162174514
nice

whats a good robot

>>162176482
Hunchback. Good and cheap and there's a variant for whatever you like.

>>162176632
what are other good robuts

>>162176665
Warhammer.

Marauder.

Kodiak.

Timber Wolf.

Stormcrow.

Hellbringer.

Ebon Jaguar.

Griffin.

Thunderbolt.

all good robuts

>>162176739
what are some smaller rebits

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>>162176770

>>162176770
Locust.

Arctic Cheetah.

Jenner IIC.

gud smaller rubats.

hey guys whats the LB20 laser stormcrow build I've asked four times now but had no answer?

>>162177691
Stop asking

Uh, does beagle active probe not work on an ECM mech or something?

Because I've got a BAP and ECM on, yet I was unable to disable the ECM of a shadow cat that was within 180 meters of me.

>>162179108
POST IT NOW OR ELSE

>>162177691
Are you seriously too dim to build something so simple?

Let me feed you then retarded baby bird.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=308&l=3dd36b6d4a2f95fcb294d53b3b1f74158b7e0488

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=308&l=7bdb92609fd65102476634e21908579948c0db1b
This ones slightly better due to better overall dps and heat efficiency and the 10 syncing better with the lasers.

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>>162173617
Suddenly have a neurohelments folder to share.

>>162174514
Who?

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>>162180234

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>>162180564

>>162179267
its been awhile and im probably wrong, but doesnt the ECm module have priority over BAPs? you need to use the ECm in counter mode manually to actually counter

its a use one or the other module thing but not both together iirc

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>>162180740

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>>162180882

>>162180771
Hrm, if it really is like that, then there is zero reason to put streaks on an ECM mech.

>>162176665
>>162176770
quickdraw

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>>162181023

>>162181239
no

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>>162181326

>>162180771
>>162181036
Ecm can counter ecm, but BAP overrides all ecm in a small area. It's why all streakboats need one.

>>162181510
Yeah but the problem here is that in order for the BAP/ CAP on an ECM mech to work, the ECM mech needs to put his own ECM into counter-mode.

Which defeats the purpose of having BAP in the first place. You're paying an extra 1-1.5 tons for a slightly longer range ECM counter at that point.

>>162181510
Bap counters 1 ecm only

>>162182146
>Yeah but the problem here is that in order for the BAP/ CAP on an ECM mech to work, the ECM mech needs to put his own ECM into counter-mode.

You're thinking tabletop. That's definitely not true in mwo.

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>>162181326
>the Kuritan is a manlet
>1000 years in to the future and the gooks are still tiny

>>162182424
But I just said I had the problem in a match where a shadow cat, despite being within 180 meters of me, did not lose his ECM while I had my own ECM active.

Only when I flipped it to [counter] did the shadowcat lose its ECM cover.

>>162182682
Bap doesn't counter ecm at 180m. It counters it somewhere below that.

>>162183274
>BAP counters ECM under 180 meters

Wait, so is there any reason to put it on LRM mechs?

Why the fuck would you use BAP/ CAP if it counters ECM when the target is within the deadzone already?

>>162180234
>there must be more to life.jpg

>>162183478
No, we already went over this. BAP is necessary equipment for STREAKboats.

BAP does nothing special for lrmboats.

>>162180234
ty anon, now I am prepared for the next "muh pedals n sticks" shitpost

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>>162185206
Is this a sense of irony since I also posted that? Or perhaps a keen sense of self awareness?

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>>162186707
>self-awareness
I'm gonna go with irony.

>>162183683
what about Clan lurmies? it's only 1 ton

I hate my team

>>162190994
Same restriction applies. Get a targeting computer instead, provides the same targeting time boost and gives your secondary weapons more bite.

People who still fire clan lrms under 180 meters are retarded. Until 160 meters or so, your missiles still do more damage than heat, but after that it drops so fast you're wasting ammunition and heat doing so.

>>162190994
you're better off using a TAG

>>162191273
a TC1 does jack shit, better off with more ammo or a heatsink or even armor

>>162191273
I still don't get why they just didn't make Clan LRM's direct fire only, as in they don't arc up to drop down, so that they have a reason to let them do damage under 180m. They could make them do 2/3 or 1/2 damage under the minimum range and it would all be dandy because they're giving up the ability to support for more personal gain.

It would differentiate them and make it a lot more interesting seeing different missile types around. And it makes sense thematically too, because the Clans ain't about that indirect fire pussy shit, they want to walk out in the open at you like retards if they can get away with it.

>>162192170
Because streaks exist dumbo

>>162192380
Streaks do not shoot as far, hit much harder, and weigh less

Different weapon

>>162192170
The clan lrms should have no damage penalty at close range, period. The damage falloff mechanic on them now should be on the IS PPC and IS LRMs instead.

>>162192491
Yes they do. They used to not, and that made clans stupid OP when they first came out. The damage goes down incrementally the closer you are to the target. It's not a flat no-damage like IS PPC's and LRM's.

>>162193625
In what universe would LRMs in their current state be overpowered even without minimum range?

>>162193625
>made clans stupid OP

No, the clan default weapon damage and range made them op. Clans having no penalty for losing a side torso made them OP. IS having zero quirks at that time made them shit in comparison.

Clan lrms had nothing to do with it.

>>162194131
>>162194273
You guys must not have been around when clans were first introduced. There was a reason they had a win rate of 9 to 1.

>>162194446
There were plenty of reasons. I listed a few of them. Lrms weren't one of them.

>>162194446
LRMs have never been an issue. The biggest problem with clancer when it came out was that their laservomit builds were literally superior in every way to IS except for heat which made no practical difference. In fact ECM was even more powerful back then than it is now so LRMs were even less of an issue.

whats a good light mech to slap a couple ERPPC's on for sniping?

>>162198245
Two erppcs are very hot on pretty much every light mech with a few exceptions.

Adders and panthers due to quirks, and Jenner 2c's due to being able to fit a smaller engine.

Panthers are shit, and ppc jenners are shit too.

>>162198245
Puma, Panther or maybe even Raven if you are feeling whimsical.

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>those side torsos on the MADiic
T H I C C

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>>162198245

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Make way for best robot!

>>162198797
Jelly rolls jelly rolls nobody loves you

>>162193625
Clan lrms always functioned as they do now in regards to minimum range

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>>162199878
Well it's a start, probably will swap out the snub cannon for a right shoulder mounted bazooza when they are available, otherwise currently packing some very light autocannons and a very light rocket pack.

>>162199878
>BLUTH
Is this lore or a reference?
>>162202964
No snibben snabbers:DDD??

>>162203152
Only have standard manipulators so far but I'd guess some alternatives will be coming down the road, maybe even something more primitive and grabby.

>tfw Timberwolves in MWO don't even have ears because lurms are garbage
>tfw SRMs don't even double stack into ears and instead erupt into cheek cancer

How is this even Mechwarrior

I'm coming back from about a year of not playing.

back to grinding my ERLL Ravens..

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wew lad

>>162207602
Wow they really put the mad 2c's ass on a diet.

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>>162207602

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>>162207829
Good thing it's still pretty narrow.

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nnnnnnnngggggg

I want to see her from the back. I need to know what that butt looks like in front of me.

>>162208202
Are you fond of large posteriors and cannot prevaricate?

>getting punted to euro servers during prime NA hours
Nice fucking game

>>162210682
Then don't tick Euro, cuck.

>>162208081
>you can't even do this ingame because the triple peepeecees will give you a trillion ghost heat

Bamp
Hows everyones day

GUIS
WHAT IF
WHAT IF MWO WAS ON CRY ENGINE 5
https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/241071-mwo-on-cryengine-5/

>>162216383
What if... a good Mechwarrior game was made on RSI Engine?

New to MWO, not going to spend the next 9 months grinding to buy the same mech variants to get the next skill tier. What's the best cheap purchase I can make to get some mechs and skills and shit?

>>162215091
Mw5 is in development, so pretty great actually.

>>162217094
Probably a medium of some sort, tho heavies are more fun to play.
What do you like to play?

>>162217094
Hunchbacks. Simple, cheap, and good.

>>162217764
>>162217780
I like lights and heavies. Should I just buy one of the $20 packs with 3? Is there a more cost effective option?

>>162215091
just got 681 damage with 1 ER PPC in a panther

im having fun

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>>162207602

At least it's better than the current lineup of lights.

I think I made a mistake in choosing my first mech from the 25m free credits.

I bought a Ryoken. and then stopped having fun with it. so I bought a Raven instead. I just switch between the two and I'm out of Mechbays.

>>162220041
>I bought a Ryoken

a what

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>>162215091

Talked to a drug dealer about realtalk for 4 hours, then we traded drugs of our choice.

>>162220138
A Stormcrow.

>>162220138
sorry a Stormcrow

>>162220205

tricked

>>162220187
What was his wisdom, O Vass?

>>162220041
How do you not have fun in stormcrow?

Just run 12spl and wreck EVERYthing up close.

>>162220489

the stormcrow is boring because you only get two flavors, missile vomit or laser vomit.

>>162220187
>storytime

>>162220489
oh that's how? I ran something like 3 ERLL on it.

>>162220660
>ERLL shitposting

>>162220648
Memecrow can run everything but full dakka and double goose homolord.

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fur dudebot

>see the MW5 trailer
>wonder if people are still feeding telemetry to the pig

konglets truely were the goldest of golds

>yfw there are three battletech games in development

feelsgood

>>162224254
>konglets truely were the goldest of golds

If anything, Konglets are worse than golds. They'll shit on the game endlessly and whine constantly but continue giving piggy money and making excuses as to why they keep playing shit games.

>>162224479
>three

???

>>162224850
Battletech the game
Mechwarrior 5
Megamek

>>162224254
>>162224746
>blaming kong
lol
>>162224850
MW5, MWLL, and the point-n-click adventure?

>>162224850
MWO
Battletech
MW5

Living Legends

>>162225005
>point-n-click adventure
The what?

>>162225030
>MWO
>in development

Did I imagine a release?

>>162225171
Are you suggesting it isn't being developed forever

>>162225005
>>blaming kong

Feel free to refute anything I said.

>>162225226
That's got fuck all to do with the difference between a released game and a game in development you uneducated pleb.

>>162224994
>Megamek
>game

lol

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>>162225713
>implying it's not

>>162225030
muh tactics

>>162225619
>living product
>minimally viable product

>>162226364
>release is only a line in the sand

>>162166281
i use a left hand joystick to move around and brawling is like fighting little babies because i have analog turning

>>162225818
It's more like LARPing than a real game.

Sad really.

>>162224994
I thought you were just memeing but I'll accept those answers.

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>>162229041
>it's the original battletech game, but automated
>it's more like LARPing

????

>>162220375
>>162220650

That good friends are rarer than good clients. Treasure them.

We also reflected on the people that we were growing up with, all of whom are complete losers by now - somehow. Neither of us has a traditional education, but in the long run, it seems to have worked out better for both of us than any of them.

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KONG STRONG

>>162232784
One more name for the filter, thanks. :)

Can we have a best to worst map ranking?
Best:
>HPG
>Terra therma
All the rest = shit

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>>162220017
>that Panther
JUST

J U S T
U
S
T

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I say - it's def SLIM THICK

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>bored
>browse /cgl/ because why not
>nothing but insane catty gothic lolitas shit talking each others dresses and hats

Is this what its like to be a Haruko?

>>162159539
>yfw no AMS bonuses for taking missiles down

>>162238279
>bellbottom pants

The 70s are over.

>>162238279
the front looks like it has two tumors growing from the sides of the cockpit

>MechWarrior 5
YES
>it's a yet another mercenaries episode
FUCK

When will this shit stop? Seriously enough with the mercenaries already.
Unless they make your boss wear a mask.

>>162241226
>Seriously enough with the mercenaries already.
Look at it this way kid, you get to keep all the money.
No, really. Mercs are infinitely better than shitty loyalist trash.

>>162241226
>Make game about inner sphere house loyalists

>Oops, can only use X mechs with Y technology. Sorry.

Apart from clans, being a mercenary provides the greatest gameplay AND story potential.

Clans don't employ mercenaries, and have a much smaller military, so they're able to somewhat share most mechs. There's still cases like nobody else but Clan Wolf would be able to pilot an Orion IIC, or outside of Smoke Jaguar the dire wolves and stormcrows would be really rare.

>>162241226
>>162241291
>Neither of these posters realized that game is being made by PGI

>>162242482
Oh I'm well aware who it's being made by.
I have no expectations for this game, other than mechs.

>>162242553
I guarentee you there will in fact be Mechs in MW5

>>162242468
What's your source for the Dires and Crows for the Jags? Orions with Wolves I can see because muh Mary Sue Kerensky's favorites faction.

>>162242979
Smoke Jaguars were the ones with the Dire Wolf and Stormcrow manufacturing plants. It's noted that other clans either bought or got them as isorla from challenges.

awooo

>>162243769
no

QUIRCKS REMAIN

https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/807022039802384384

>>162245097
https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/807022233847640064

https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/807022376487485440

>i told you pig cant do a thing properly

>>162245163
>>162245097
That's a good thing, honestly.
Quirks are a stupid system but necessary with MWO's retarded mechlab

>>162245097
>>162245163
Completely reasonable.

>>162199878

>There are people out there who are justifying the existence of the retardnicker by saying "it can do triple LBX10!!!!"

If this thing were 75 tons, it'd actually be an interesting robot. But no, got to over saturate the already bloated category of 65 ton mechs. Newsflash: Jagermech and Rifleman do everything this thing wants to do, but better. Even the Catapult K2 is better than this thing.

>>162203152
Late as fuck reply, but Bluth Corporation is a manufacturer of industrial mechs.

>UAC20's jam for the entire fight on a mech with 30% less jam chance

WEWLAD PGI

Is there any benefit (c-bills or XP) to taking lance/company command, or following the orders of said lance/company commander?

>>162238279
>those discopants
>those giant hamster cheeks
Holy shit it looks ridiculous

>>162250074
>using ultrashit 20

>>162252293
>hamster cheeks
OH SHIT NOW I CAN SEE WHAT BOTHERED ME

Is it worth a single ton to throw a TAG on a mech just so the retard lurm boats on your team can actually help?

>>162253334
Do not enable their faggotry.

>>162245163
>>162245097
Of course PGI manages to fuck up something so simple, great.

I vaguely remember playing MWO when it came out, don't remember why I quit. I heard there was some tournament recently and my interest is sort of renewed.

What's the grind like? How many hours til I have a reasonable medium mech ready for fun?

>>162254374
Takes like, 12 hours, depending on how much you win? Of course, I'm basing this on the most expensive one, the hunchback IIC with all the goodies.

New player cadet bonus nets you like, 24 million or so with the first 25 matches played. It'll take like 6 and a half hours to get all that.

With that cadet bonus you can buy pretty much any mech you want and kit it up, or go for 2 medium mechs and kit em out.

>>162256613
Decent enough, downloading

is there skill based matchmaking for group queue in MWO?

>>162258893
No.

>>162259003
thanks.

one more question, i just started playing really.

I've been narc boating in a Raven 3l and have been having a pretty good time co-ordinating mechs and LRMs in pubs, been getting a good amount of wins. still usually do over 300 damage in a good game

50% chance in group play to get guys that act like any mention of LRMs or NARCS is worse than raping their mother

what's the problem with LRMs?

>>162252219
Yes, there are xp rewards for using the commands (once a command is followed, for both the commander and everyone who followed).

As for the command wheel that's also useful, the target selection one manages to hold a target lock for several seconds longer as well.

Getting back into this game after the great cbill nerf made me give up ever trying to break even let alone make any cbills as a new player.

Whats a good cheap medium to get as a new account.

>>162258893
Groups are organized by average PSR (which is mostly skill and experience based) of the group. It tries to even out PSR on both sides, but it's never perfect due to having to fit in differently sized groups, as well as considering tonnage to a lesser degree. Restrictions are loosened the longer someone waits for a match.

>>162259332
Lrms are considered a low skill weapon since you don't really aim it. (They're also kind of shit due to the amount of face time they require to fire, and how slow they travel)

The truth is that they require more effort for marginal reward since it takes only minimal effort to avoid lrms. Maps also play a very significant factor, in that most maps have significant cover so lrms are made useless.

If you want to learn how to shoot, dodge, and run around, lrms will not help you do it.

>>162259915
Hunchbacks are good, cheap, and there's a variant for whatever you like.

>>162259915
Hunchbacks, both IS and clan, are good.

Clan version better than IS, but both are still good.

>>162163951
in MW2 and MW2M there was a glitch that would let you increase your heat infinitely without drawbacks, it looks like this Anon maxed out his heat a long time ago

>>162260074
Interwebs also say cent 2n as well as the hbk 4sp.

I cannot find anywhere on the site an actual list of all the mechs etc with stats.

Mwo is reinstallan now offa steam and I'm in my new acc on the mwo website and i see nothing resembling a garage / techbook style

Smurfy /dulfy just gives you loadouts etc.

>>162261291
There is no cent 2n. Perhaps you mean a griffin 2n, but that isn't a beginner build due to cost and playstyle.

Smurfy has a list of all mechs, with info on their costs, quirks, hardpoints, etc. You don't really need more than that. Everything else is available in the game.

>>162260383
>>162260074

So how do i build a 4sp hunch?

Spoonfeed a returning noob so it is useful to a team please.

>>162256613
>Takes like, 12 hours
Nowhere near that, at least if you cut off modules and any vaguely new player honestly should.

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>>162262834
Standard slow version:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=22&l=191d4d155f273a54de1c5eb4cefd6910bb93d782

Spicy short range version:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=22&l=0f8ef1995f2321fc1cc0c3068c8f4ec13587eb06

Extra Spicy xl version:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=22&l=99e70397378d2f3c32d368ca66e3ced96c142834

how about this cent?

trying to have weapons spread out since all the builds i see espoused have everything dumped into like ONE hardpoint.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=7&l=5287e9a72629ec6575a78f95b0a9f2b41aab61de

forgot to 'spend' the free tonnage

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=7&l=53dc536ca93a416b97e523165ae23fa0138ad234

>>162265639
>>162266316
If you really want to use all the hardpoints and use a standard then this can work.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=7&l=a85a8087db93ffe4046aaa48a4c6795030972ce4

>>162267316
Nice. I was trying to figure out an ac 10 set up.

I just don't like the idea of depending on one section since brawlers are about spreading the dmg. Chucking a shitload of srms into one section and ignoring everything else just begs to eat goose or something and lose your one offensive hardpoint. Then you are a ct zombie with a whole 2 ml's until you get killed.

>>162267316
I don't HAVE to have an std. But xl's blow up easier and since brawling is gonna mean taking hits i don't wanna give away free crits

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ayyyy

>>162269318
who?
what?

>>162263848
>225
whispers what the actual fuck are you doing

this is the standard cookie cutter literally stock tried and true since 2012 camel build
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=22&l=31f75898d58ba554b589a29ee7823012ad465918

>>162272621
>bukkake srms
>better

lolno

>>162273054
>going slower than a heavy in a 50 tonner
>better

lolno

This is the best version of the -4SP objectively

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=22&l=f43f26562488d5c3841661657e22cabd7c11f18b

>>162272621
That's way too many fucking DHS and a 250 is still not fast enough

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>you will never have a kong dong

>IS robuts with 2-3 ballistic hardpoints in the same side torso

when will this awful fucking meme end?

It limits builds to such shitmech status it's not even ironically amusing.

>>162279146
The meta makes a lot of hard point setups bad though
>3 missile hard points
>less than 4 energy hard points
>hard points in the arms

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Light engines never.

>>162279745
Stuff like the Marauder, Hunchback or Orion could be really good if it could put at least one of the ballistics in a separate side torso. Suddenly shitmetchs would be more viable, even if more vulnerable.

>trying to build something good for MAD-3R
>It's either 4x LPL or go home, no 2x UAC5 + 2x PPC + XL for u

>>162280161
>Hunchback
>Not good

What?

>>162280789
IS hunchies with ballistics, despite being a "hur dur me am meme" in this general, suck ass.

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>>162202964
S

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>>162282427
O

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C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

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>>162282621
O

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>>162282802
N

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>>162283004
™

>>162281680
To be fair, the clan ones suck now too.

>>162283176
>plethora of robutt games coming out

nice

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>>162283176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNRqpXHe2XU

>>162283217
True, they're worse than before, but they have the benefit of spreading their weapons between both torsos.

This is the real crux of the matter, the only way you're going to use 3x AC5 or 2x UAC5 in one side torso is with a standard engine, severely limiting the potential of the build on that inner sphere mech.

>>162284038
You're not going to have the tonnage to run 3ac5 and ammo on an IS hunch anyway regardless of hardpoint locations.

>>162284269
It's not even on the hunch that I would want to run that. I was initially complaining about the Orions and the Marauders. They're the ones hobbled by this whole "3 ballistic slots in the same side torso hurrr." nonsense.

>that guy in the clan mech.

>>162284795
I'm actually curious too, how the hell ARE you supposed to run the MAD-3R?

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>>162245163
>Kanajashi trying to change things for no fucking reason as usual

>>162286756
>Kana "15 damage erppc is too powerful, oh good they reverted the buff it was too good" Jashi
>Kana "Clan and IS XL engines should work the same way" Jashi
>Kana "I have no idea how PPCs work" Jashi

>>162284795
Why the fuck would you run an XL in a Marauder?

It's not like it's worth taking 2UAC5 over 3AC2 in this stupid fucking patch anyways.

>>162287923
So Marauder can't run XL, and there's no point in running UACs or AC2s.

What the fuck CAN it do? Quad PPC memery or some shit?

>>162288182
How do you even get that out of that post

>>162288182
Not him but I run an XL and 4x LPL. I got tired of my ballistics constantly being blown off in the opening seconds of an engagement and ending up a zombie anyways

>>162286675
2xlbx10 and a bunch of med lasers or 4xppc/lpl

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>>162289629
Why didn't you use the fundamentals of torso twisting

>>162290889
Because not all of us are still stuck in tier 4 potato land against people who don't know how to cripple a mech with two alpha strikes.

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>>162290889
almost

>>162290889
I do and get out-torso'd most times, they just wait till i turn to face them to fire at me again.

>they bought into the asymmetic build meme
>they bought into the shield side meme

>>162291373
You obviously need to out wait them and/or bring a bigger gun

Just started MWO a few days ago. What mechs are recommended for a fresh player to go for first? Also how long do I keep these trial mechs? And is there anything I should know that's not immediately obvious, or that would make my life easier in the long run?

>>162292125
Drop your mouse sensitivity.

>>162292125
You get a bunch of monies from finishing the tutorial and your first 20? or so matches.

Trial mechs are perfectly functional (and you're lucky they are, they used to be stock when I started playing), so play them as much as you want. Once you have enough monies you can buy your first mech which should be a medium or heavy.

Blackjacks, Hunchbacks and their IIC version, Novas, Stormcrows, Catapults, Warhammers, Hellbringers, Ebon Jaguars, and Timberwolves are all acceptable first choice mechs.

The priority is reasonable cost, reasonable at making money, and can run more than 1 type of build between their variants.

>>162292125
>What mechs are recommended for a fresh player to go for first?
Here is a general list of mechs that are good and will offer you a variety of playstyles.

>Inner sphere (inexpensive at first, but upgrading their loadouts incurs hidden cost)
Locust, Raven, Centurion, Griffin, Warhammer, Thunderbolt, Battlemaster, Mauler

>Clans (expensive at first, slightly cheaper to change loadouts on)
Arctic Cheetah, Jenner IIC, Hunchback IIC, Stormcrow, Timber Wolf, Hellbringer, Ebon Jaguar, Mad Dog.


I only included 2 examples of each weight class in the inner spere, there are a few more that are considered good mechs but those chassis are sure and stone going to provide you viable builds.

You may have noticed that I did not include assault mechs in the clan examples, however. This is because clan assault mechs are not exactly beginner friendly, more intermediate requiring situational and positional awareness in order not to get slaughtered. Their heavy mechs are really good though, if expensive.

>Also how long do I keep these trial mechs?
Until PGI decides to rotate trial mechs, which might be next month, or half a year from now. Do not worry, when they rotate they offer another complete set of free to play champion build mechs for you that will offer more or less the same playstyles as the previous trial mechs.

>And is there anything I should know that's not immediately obvious, or that would make my life easier in the long run?
Never sell engines above 250 rating, and never sell any XL engines.

If you buy a module (though they'll be refunded sometime early next year), purchase only general Radar Deprivation module and keep taking that out and putting it into the mech you wish to play. This way you gain some protection from LRM fire. "out of sight, out of mind" also works wonders on the potato patch beings that populate this game.

>>162280161
Just use standard AC/5s instead? They don't need as much facetime and I don't ever have to worry about jamming. It also fits in better without sacrificing heatsinks or engine size.

>>162294001
Thanks

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>>162292624
I can definitely see this helping. Is there an ideal sensitivity range, or should I just fiddle with it until I find what works?

>>162293257
>You get a bunch of monies from finishing the tutorial and your first 20? or so matches.
Right, I've noticed the big chunks of credits coming in after matches labelled as cadet bonus or something.

>Blackjacks, Hunchbacks and their IIC version, Novas, Stormcrows, Catapults, Warhammers, Hellbringers, Ebon Jaguars, and Timberwolves are all acceptable first choice mechs.
I've already tried out the trial Ebon Jaguar available and I like that one, and the trial Hunchback looks pretty solid so I'm about to give it a go as well. I'll likely go with either of those or Timberwolf then.

>>162294001
Much appreciated.

What are some derogatory nicknames for mechs, like Shit Fox, Fatlas, etc?

>>162296978
nigger

>>162296978
blarg

nigger knight

>>162296978
Mad Cat, Vulture, Ryoken, Uller, Puma, Daishi...

>>162296978
Spurdomech, Warcuck, Huelander, Shitcutioner, Dire Whale

Oh wait that's pretty much all clan assaults, what a coincidence.

>>162296978
Arctic Cheater
Shit Fox
Badder
Sad Cat or Scat
Bad Dog
Hill Bungler
Ebin Memeuar xD
Dumboner
Timber Yiff
Onii-chan

Played MWO like 3 years ago, before quirks and shit. Quit around the time blackjacks were introduced, i think.

Are clan mechs vastly superior to IS in all ways?

>>162299104
no but they will soon again

>>162299104
Not really, they have less kwerks and almost all the clan weapons are crippled as fuck.

>>162299104
Actually balance is very good in terms of clans and IS. There are a few scrubs who think whatever somebody else playing is OP because they suck.

>>162299583
>>162299506
Shocking. I figured PGI would make all of them damn near invincible to appease all the neckbeards frothing at the mouth for a Mad cat

>>162296978
Asshopper
Maulcop
Turd
Piece of shit
Pissdraw

Ice Fridge
Memetaro
Metal Baby
Doctor Crab

Shabbos-goyle

>>162301656
>Metal Baby

That isn't derogatory. It's affectionate.

>>162299217
>no but they will soon again
Quirks are still in though
>>162300304
They did, timber wolf was broken for ages.
Just not anymore.

>>162296978
Urbanmech

>>162291151

potato land is great, theres no meta and no one plays like a twitch shooter

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>>162300304

Balance was great for a bit.

>268 damage in the PXH-1B and killing yourself from overheating.

What kind of shitters do they allow to play this game?

>>162304737
>PHX

>>162304737
People named Vassago Rain

Can someone get me an image of a clusterfuck Megamek turn's text, I need it for reasons.

>>162307920

>>50617369 is a great example of why megamek is awesome

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>>162308676
>post deleted

T-thanks

>>162309172
Stupid 4chins

>>>/tg/50617369

>>162307920
Not exactly a screenshot, but a log from /tg/'s battletech thread from a few years ago.

http://pastebin.com/xyUungiG
Context: The guy tried davy crockets and had no idea the nukes are actually powerful in BT

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>7 PPC's
>all of them in chainfire groups
>max speed 46 kph
>sub 200 damage by the end of the game

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>>162309865
>he doesn't have a 7 PPC Banshee

>MW5
>Battletech

Mechcommander 3 when?

>>162312748
Hopefully never. All MC ever consisted of was ordering all units to shoot at one target at a time and placing your artillery just right. The difficulty was its only saving grace. The second game was somehow even more shallow.

bamp

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Group drops happening.

They haven't said anything about upgrading consumables after skill tree change have they

How do I play hawken? So far all I've heard was that it's a good idea to get items that make people drop more orbs and make you benefit from them more or something, unless you don't want to be a dickhead. Are there any mechs that are well-known wastes of points?

>>162322543

No, but Hawken is a well-known waste of a game.

Patch notes up.

http://mwomercs.com/news/2016/12/1678-patch-notes-1490-13dec2016

Some points of interest:

Gauss rifles only hit 2x as far instead of 3x as far
Clan gauss rifles explode 100% of the time instead of 90%
Clan normal ACs buffed slightly
MGs buffed fairly heavily
SRM ghost heat penalties raised when firing more than 4
DHS rebuffed for both sides
All Jenners get Oxide CT HP
Lots of IS mechs get armour instead of structure, Victor included
Trebuchets buffed all around
Zeus still has structure quirks and not armour
Marauder IIC gets no quirks except for the preorder only variant which gets 15% missile cooldown

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>>162323812
>Machine Gun
>• Damage increased to .95 (from .8)
>• Spread decreased by 60%
Will MGs become actually good instead of meh?

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DAT
FUCKIN
ASS

>>162324913
I am going to mistake it for a big crab a lot.

>>162324652
Why 0.95? Why not 1.0? I don't understand.

>>162323812
uhh does the Oxide have more CT HP or something?

>>162326078
Yes

>>162323812
EVERYONE has completely forgotten the Zeus exists.

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>>162323812
>Commando buff
>Urbanmech buff
>Machine gun buff
>Trebuchet buff
>Mech collision fixed
PGI YES