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Cute edition

>Poschengband 5.0.3 released
release notes: http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=8133
download here: https://sites.google.com/site/poschengband/

>Shared DCSS online account.
User: rlgrobin
Password: ownfault (or "robin" on CXC).
Remember, it's not fun if you didn't splat hard!

>FAQ and What to Play
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to Play?: http://pastebin.com/yfUKx35f

>Individual Game Pastas
http://pastebin.com/nXBycdgR

>Previous thread:
>>161843293
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Ohayou gozaimasu, /rlg/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's play our best today!
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>>162087624

a woo
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at least were not as cancerous as pic related
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What was the most glorious trainwreck of a splat you've had?
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>>162087840
trying to obsidian axe tiamat
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>>162087816
I miss the old days of finding weird as fuck servers.

>>162087840
Cerebov and Gloorx Vloq showing up on the orb run.
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>>162087816
>tfw you never play tf2 again
>tfw no tf2 roguelike
feels bad
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>Basically, instant death effects like Snuff Out will now be described as and act like "all or nothing" attacks with X Power, worded something like "100 Power attack, but misses if the damage would not be fatal."

>*Exterminate: 130 Power

>* - As far as I remember, there is no actual way for Exterminate to appear in the game at the moment.

That's a new ability. Does anyone have any idea what type it could be? I'm betting it's a body-type ability.
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I think I've had enough of *hacks, crawl, brogue, IA, OWH+ and it's time to finally try some grindy bloat *band

should I go with Angband or with some fork?
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>>162087840
PCB. I dropped my food in my house before entering the "Royal Crypt" quest so I'd have more room for loot.

The only exit from the level is a staircase past like 4 drujes who are all in line of sight at once.

For the drujes I had to basically just show up, spam android rockets and staves of healing, and hope I managed to kill one before any of them cast anything too nasty. If/when I failed to get one I had to wait for my staves to recharge.

But all that waiting for staff recharge meant I eventually ran out of time -- I started starving to death.

My only food was outside the quest, back in my home. But to leave I had to get past the drujes. And to get past the drujes I needed to not be starving so I could actually rest for hp.
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>>162089529
PCB is what you play if you don't want to play any other *band ever again
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>>162089529
vanilla angband isn't particularly grindy or bloated

play pseudoellimpaposchengband
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>>162090221
>play pseudoellimpaposchengband
sorry, I don't know that meme
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>>162090221
>>162090446
isn't that the game about rolling jellies into a ball?
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>>162089205
damage split between light/dank
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>>162090857
what
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>>162091045
With exorcist's mien and demon's mien, that would be really powerful versus things like ikiryo. That seems redundant, though, because snuff out and expel already benefit greatly from those passive abilities.
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>>162090221
seriously though what do you mean with this pseudopcb thing, google doesn't know
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>>162089535
Couldn't you just recall out? You'd fail the quest, but it sounds like you were doing that anyway.
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>>162089529
Sil
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>>162087840
D**M the roguelike, some old version where regeneration happened on every aut spent, without cooldowns.
Sharpshooter with a modded blaster or some nano-modded pistol.
Entered Mortuary, shot some dudes, ran out of ammo.
Ran out of ammo.
On regenerating pistol.
That means I was shooting non-stop at <1 aut per action, so regeneration did not apply.
I was so not ready for that.
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>>162091763
hahaha "Why would i need this rod of recall? I'll just leave it in the house so I have more space for loot. If shit goes bad I can always leave out the staircase I came in on, right?"

I think the royal quest is the only (?) quest where you don't start on the staircase out.

>>162091452
it doesnt have an "mpa" in it
google pseudoelliposchengband
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>>162092121
there are no windows binaries so I'll just try sil
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>>162092469
pro tip: files with the extension "dot e x e" are, in fact, windows binaries
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>>162092928
I don't believe you
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>>162093297
.scr are too which is great
shitty spammers love to send .scr files and call them "screenshots"
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i cant bring myself to play crawl anymore
what do i do
shuld i buy drkest dungeo?
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What da fug. I just downloaded pseudoellimpaposchengband 5.03, and they completely changed the creation menu into this abombination. Is it possible to change the game so it displays the old screen instead of this garbo?
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>Playing Crawl as a demonspawn
>Get immunity to fire clouds
Yeah okay this is alright
>Get the mutation that turns all blood into fire clouds
Holy fuck this is fucking awesome
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>>162095069
darkest dungeon is the best game I've played in past few years, but you are not allowed to discuss it here if you decide to buy it
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>felid berserker, 33 ev

>cornered in long hallway by centaur warrior

>53% chance to confuse with wand

>fails 6 fucking times in a row, i die

FUCK IM MAD

FUCKING CUNT DIDN'T MISS ONCE EITHER
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http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=19957
>that axe
>that damage versus evil
Holy shit.

>>162095145
New interface is better. Stop fighting against progress, you luddite.
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Gimme some ideas, I have to win Sil as a Nogrod dorf and idk what to smith at the 100 forge
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>>162096413
did u have blink
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>>162095145
download version 5.0.2

chris changed the character creation screen in 503
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>>162096519
No, and I was so fucking pissed it didn't matter. I WANTED TO CONFUSE HIM, EVEN IF IT COST ME MY LIFE.
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>>162095679
/v/ told me its a roguelike though
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>>162096496
just make a silmaril and bring it back to the surface wtf
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>>162095145
Not really since Chris redid the whole thing completely for 5.0.3. I agree that it needs some tuning, but it is improvement, personally.
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>>162096496
>smithing

lol

two rings of accuracy +2 and an amulet of the blessed realm +0
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>>162096734
>dwarves
>making silmarils
laughing_feanorian_sluts.jpeg
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>>162096478
That character is ridiculous.
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>>162095069
Sil, Infra Arcana, Brogue, dynahack, forrays into norrendin
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>>162097090
>one ring
>ringle
>antisummoning amulet
>gloves of tonberry AND gloves of mephistopheles
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>>162096413

This is why you should use Chei at all times. No more horses to ruin your dreams.
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>You can steal from NPCs in Cata now
>Try to steal something expecting it to be hard
>Literally can take anything with enough patience
why
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>>162097713
Who even cares? Either befriend and trade it all away, threaten and kill them if they don't have a gun, or just grenade them from a distance and mop up the loop cause morale a shit.
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does anyone have the pic of the stick figure dude riding ringle
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The most obnoxious monster reward goes to...
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>>162099402
magic mushrooms are pretty annoying but imo they are still preferable to fucking unmakers
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>>162099402
Chaos tiles.
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can you fuck lolis in Elona+?

deciding factor for whether I play it or not
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Did you guys saw that doomrl's source code was released ?
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How come there doesn't seem to be a single roguelike centered around modern infantry combat?
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>>162099934
>>162099973
>>162100074
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>>162100358
?
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>>162099973
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>>162099510
Fucking Unmakers and Chaos Tiles are worst.
Generally it is a !Recall the moment I detect them.
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>>162098749
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>>162100436
The answers are yes, yes, because CoDRL vanished into the ether.
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>>162098749
>>162100650
Why would you save or want that?
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>>162100671
sad to hear
also really surprising because you'd think modern shooters would be popular enough to warrant at least a single roguelike
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>>162100842
i looked on the archive actually

>>162100643
>potion of recall
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can someone explain this epic meme?
>>162098749
>>162100650
>>162101173
>>162101429
>>162101584
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>>162101584
...
Time to program a class that rides weapons.
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>>162101721
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>>162102187
thanks
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>>162101173
What did you use to search for it, if I may ask?
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>>162102776
i just searched for "ringle"

the reply with the image didn't use the word but others in the thread did
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>>162087546

God damn it, I thought I had the latest version of DoomRL downloaded but apparently I didn't. Anyone got a link for it pre-Bethesda neutering?

Thank you and god bless America.
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>>162100671
>The answers are yes
as far as I've read you can only use them as mounts or something

is there more to it?
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>>162103219
You can have sex with (prostitute yourself to) and marry anything in Elona+
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>>162103367
alright i'm sold
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>>162102940
the website is literally still up you retard
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>>162103367

You don't actually have to (((prostitute))) yourself to your waifu. Just get a special skill called Squeeze which is basically Hugging and while you're Sleepy, make sure your waifu is adjacent to you while you're standing on a bed then you'll have an intense hugging session. Your waifu has unlimited hymen btw so it will always spawn a blood afterwards.
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>>162104393
you're* waifu
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My first brogue win. Achieved after I realized that brogue is vegan-friendly. I guess knowledge is power.

Had a great drop of ring of wisdom and staff of firebolt early on, then staff of poison, then staff of blinking, then staff of teamfights.
Oh and armor of undead immunity, which saved my life multiple times despite having crap stats otherwise (splint +2).

Got ifrit minion halfway, then wand-of-plenty'd him into 2. Both died on the same turn to a band of ogres they refused to cast spells on for some reason.
By the endgame I got a tentacle horror minion from regular restraints. He made my kokkoro all ahegao, but then died to a dragon.

Endgame is fucking intense. Though also incredibly RNG heavy. That staff of blinking was a life saver.

I don't know how to post a proper win screen - I don't see any way to get my inventory here and I didn't expect it to autowin without asking me first, so I just autowalked to the end.
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>>162104521
Ifrits are kind of terrible. I've never found them to be much use.
>RNG heavy
Not really.

Usually people here take a screenshot with inventory open one tile away from the entrance.
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Did you guys notice that Hat of the High Council was removed?
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>>162104303
yes but now it's all "d**m" or "DRL"
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>>162104521
you need a game where you can ascend as a pacifist
none of that nethack "make your pet kill everything for you" pacifism either
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>>162106000
Doable in Sil, Brogue, TSL, and probably some others I can't think of right now.
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>>162104707
>Usually people here take a screenshot with inventory open one tile away from the entrance.
OK, got it from the recording.
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>>162106249
>Pacifism
>In brogue
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>>162106249
incursion maybe?
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>>162106249
used to be possible in dcss if you wanna go back a few versions
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>>162089535
>The only exit from the level is a staircase past like 4 drujes who are all in line of sight at once.
or you know.
RECALL.
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>>162106579
It's technically possible. I don't doubt that an early Teleport charm and staves/wands of [helps you avoid monsters] would be achievable by any decent player.
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>>162104521
>>162106485
is there a strategy that doesn't involve dude rng lmao
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>>162106840
IMO one should read the replies to a post before replying.
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>>162106989
I don't even read the entire post before replying.
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>>162106912
Doesn't look like it.

You can probably compensate for shit RNG and still win with very hard builds, but the risk of WOOOW I LITERALLY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING is inherent.
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>>162097090
>20 hours
>93 potions of healing

That should not and is not in any way possible.
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>>162107224
i just wanna win, man. i had a great run going and then an allied monkey that i freed on F1 decided to jihad a bloat that was in stealth mode behind a bush and i splatted
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Favorite spells in DCSS?
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>>162106579
>he doesn't know about the epic Obstruction+Tunneling wombo combo where you slowly ooze through the dungeon in an invulnerable shell of crystal
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>>162107706
INNER FLAME+ANIMATE SKELETON
Incredible meatshields and damage for literally no XP investment

Orb of Destruction is the one satisfying conjuration spell

Malign Gateway is pretty fun
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>>162107457
Don't care too much for shit allies. Ogre or goblin caster (either type) is probably the weakest thing you want to keep alive.

You want a ring of wisdom and 2 damaging staves. 1 if that staff is thunder and you stack it to million.

RNG is fucking major, man. With one seed, I had wisdom+thunder+naga ally+runic armor at like depth 6, then 5 runs without a damaging staff or low-level armor/weapon.
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>>162096478
what do master tonberry gloves do?
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>>162107706
i don't know, i can't play non-mibes without splatting on D:1 to the dungeon exit because monsters are scary

which magic class is like mibe i just want to cast shit
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How do we fix cataclysm dda?
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>>162108048
+100 damage, -2.00 blows

only affects the pair of hands the gloves are on, which is why the axe in his first set of hands is so much more damaging than everything else
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>>162108189
the most OP magic class is psion
demigod is good for dispel resistance, or you can be tomberry and abuse the +blows psi power
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>>162108436
Remove zombies and replace them with DCSS creatures, remove the player characters and replace them with DCSS classes, add more floors and explorable worlds, replace the stats with DCSS resistances and elemental types, replace guns with magic books, replace books with more magic books, and replace vehicles with Vault:5
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>my yellow-mage does more damage hitting things in melee than with spells
Only reason it isn't better than magic is my accuracy is terrible.

Third spellbooks when pretty sure killing smaug is a joke option for mages when your best spell is 3d6+51
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>>162107440
He streams all his gameplay on termcast.org.
That's only a few large stacks plus the regular accumulation.
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>>162109150
>3d6+51
is that Death or Crusade? Because the Crusade one does double damage to evil.

personally i'm still playing a sorceror. 65% class liferating means I ain't going anywhere near mr. Smug for a long time
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>everyone talking about PCB
>start to feel excited
>download, compile, play
>20 hours in, realize I'm suffering
>delete
>month later, everyone talking about PCB
>start to feel excited
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>>162109598
same except replace "20 hours" with "3 minutes" and "suffering" with "confused"
>tfw too retarded to find any good guides on how to play
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>>162109715
pick mauler
bump your @ into the rest of the alphabet so so hard that they all explode
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>>162109715
The pastebin guide is quite good.
Other than that, I made a couple bad videos where I talk about a possible way to play the early game (with examples). I think the possessor genocide guy has some too.
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>>162109428
Death/Trump.

Trump is a lot better than I expected, even though the summons in the first two books are kind of poor. Though apparently I should just capture ball this guy and never need to summon again.
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>>162088685
It would be impossible to keep scout from being stupidly op.
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>>162110313
>Trump is a lot better than I expected
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>>162110313
capture balls are great with trump

go to a high level area, spam summon spells until you get some nice OOD guy, then dismiss everything you don't want
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>>162110442
>>>/pol/
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>>162111363
BTFO
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>>162108189
DECj is quite nice. Deals massive damage. GrEE is very durable for a caster.
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>>162108189
My first caster ascension was a GREE. Pretty easy. Grab a quarterstaff early on to beat popcorn to death.
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>>162108581
Replace everything with Sigmund
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First win combo?
>GrBe
Favorite combo now?
>DECj
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>find a wand of regrowth
>become a camper
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>>162102187
>frost ball
top kek
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>>162115436
>first win
>MiBe

I know, I know, but I love them.

>current fave

DDAr of Pakellas
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Got him, after he decided to spend turns enough turns doing nothing that I could weaken his breath.

Let's ignore the bit where he knocked me to 35 hp when I tried to be cute with summoning spiders.
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You cast Revive!
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>>162115094
late reply, but what? mages can unironically use non-magical items as melee weapons for melee damage? i thought that would just miss constantly or do almost no damage unless it was backed by magical shit or something
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>>162122997
Obviously you will use spells for the big targets but a melee weapon is a great way to not waste all your mana killing quokkas and green rats.
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O-oh my

I think I know how I'm going to die on this run

CARMACK ACKBAR
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>>162122997
around the end of lair and orc, XP becomes much more plentiful and your core skills tend to have more diminishing returns due to being more expensive, which is when you can afford to invest into getting a weapon to min delay.
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>>162115436
>First Win
CeFi^Oka
>Favourite Combo
Don't have a preferred way of playing but my successful characters are always axe-wielding, invocation heavy melee dudes.
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>>162122997

Everyone can but the usual caster deep elf apts for almost every weapons are abysmal (except LB and Staves) so it'll take longer than usual if you want to train them. It's usually always staves since their apts for it is a decent +0 and they also have the weapons+spell enhancers that do those additional magical shit depending on the damage school they're training.
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>>162107706
summon forest, orb of destruction, infestation
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>It breathes _______.
>What a noble sacrifice!

I could have cleaned my entire apartment and put up Christmas ornaments in the time that took me.
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>>162125428
OWNED!
FUCKING
OWNED
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>>162125428
dumb shitter
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Shuffled my way to an improvement from 110% life rating.

Worst effect I saw was my weapon being disenchanted because I didn't have rDisenchant on.
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>>162127237
i think i was wrong about cybderdemons

it CAN cause AFC effects but AFC doesn't summon cyberdemons above dlvl 65

all the other summons from shuffle are level-dependent so they should be no threat on the surface
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>>162132350
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>>162132350
I think you may have pounded too hard
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What's a rougelike that discourages you playing too safe?
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>>162134418
DCSS? Food clock, OOD spawns, hell effects, piety clock, and a lot of tools for playing safe have been nerfed or removed.
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>>162135065
DCSS if you're trying to 15 rune sub 30k turns, maybe
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Does Gourmand still make you enjoy drugs more?
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>>162134418
IVAN punishes you for wearing good armor and wielding cool weapons. Well, it doesn't really punish you, it just downright kills you.
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>>162134418
Sil, Brogue, IA, Dynahack, Forays in to Nagasaki
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Alright, lesson learned. Don't tab into entropy weavers.
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>>162135224
Actually it probably is DCSS. Your character is so powerful and you have so many escape options you don't have to play safe.
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>>162137216
>you don't have to play safe
that's not the same thing as being "discouraged" to play it safe. brogue's food clock discourages you from being slow because you'll die, DCSS's does because you'll die... of boredom
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>>162137401
But in brogue you often can't kill certain monsters without risk or spending a consumable, so you have to avoid them. Is this not playing it safe?

I guess it depends on what they are looking for. Games like brogue won't let you do super autistic things like only step on dug out squares to avoid traps, but the less escape options a game gives you the more safely you have to play.

I think if you wanted a roguelike that required you to make risky decisions, you'd need a clock that moved much faster than normal play, and I don't think that game exists.
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>>162137434
Supposedly, some anon was working on a roguelike that involved tummies in some way. It's probably vapourware like all the other roguelikes who development were posted here.
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>>162138025
>But in brogue you often can't kill certain monsters without risk or spending a consumable, so you have to avoid them. Is this not playing it safe?
it is, i was using the food clock to clarify the meaning of "discouraged"
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>>162099934
Only if you put a ring on her finger. You can play maidensnow eve and avoid getting fucked for a purity victory.

>>162104521
You have an entire dungeon to build an ascension kit. The only RNG is was your wisdom stat high enough to learn how to win

>>162106912
Yeah, play out of the extended seed catalog until you know how to assemble a winning ascension kit or just do a lightning staff mastery/wand of empowerment free win.
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>>162125428
If you don't fill your holes, expect your holes to get filled.
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How do you debug in current DDA? The old way to map commands seems to be gone.
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>>162107706
Malign gateway. tfw cerebov gets paralyzed is just hnnnnng.

>>162138936
Anything in the esc menu?
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>>162139064
Yes. I didn't even know that menu existed, thanks.
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Fuck i just realised if i take night vision i can read in the dark
This changes everything.
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>>162139730
Wait fuck no i cant
Im still gonna start taking it.
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>>162139730
BURN
JEWS WOOD
IN
OVENS

UNLIMITED LIGHT FOREVER
WEAR 2 DUFFLE BAGS IF YOU NEED MORE VOLUME
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>trying to get into Sil
>running that brawler build in the pastebin
>kill a giant, find Glend, discard shield of protection and mythril defender longsword to become the closest thing a spindly elf can get to ragemaster Guts himself
>tunnel through a wall 900 feet down, get roasted by a balrog of darkness AND fire AND sanic speed

Am I just bad or is fire resistance mandatory in the lategame? The guy had 110 health and roasted me for half of my max every other turn. I also nearly got oneshotted by Smaug's fire breath before that.
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>>162138045
RIP tummyRL
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The Amy conquered Lesimas! All glory to the Snail Tourist! Seriously, Zeome is way too easy, it's like the devs didn't even want the final boss to be difficult. Game time: 440k turns, 109 hours. Moving over to South Tyris now.
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>>162140816
Didn't you read the manual? If you're not resistant they get an extra die of damage so they're doing something like 3d12 base damage on top of generally being very accurate for their native floor which means they will reliably give your shit in. Fire ressitantce isn't mandatory. What is, is knowing that you don't have it and therefore need to be much more careful and leave. Spiders and fire drake hatchlings taught you about how not being resistant will fuck you up. You've learned about darkness from night thorns, whispering shadows, creeping horrors, and dark serpents. You've learned about fast enemies from werewolves and wargs. You ignored the lessons and persisted well past the depth it's taken the training wheels off. It's up to you senpai

>>162141339
Taking about 60 hours longer than it's meant to take has that effect
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>>162141339

Congratulations for achieving literally nothing gayboy
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>>162141591
>>162141878
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>>162142101
Telling it how it is isn't bullying you brain damaged toddler.
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>>162142197
can brain damaged people code? yeah I don't think so
and we both know you would still eat shit out of her ass
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>>162142424
Plenty do every year and hell no. That's disgusting and unsanitary.
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>>162142101

Alright. Wow! That's a great achievement Amy onee-san! Ganbatte! Go go go!
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>>162087546
What is the 2hu game in op be?
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>>162142751
Demon. She's a rare spawn on the final floor as a part of the enemy sense power in the next release that's coming out on the 11th. If you delete your starter demon on turn 1 and clear the game without making a link you get a prerelease from the nightly build.
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>>162143375
You's kidding me.
Has anyone thrown the nightly up somewhere?
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>>162143616
Nope. The ones who pulled it off had some ferocious autism
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>>162143690
My sides.
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>It's a "try to make it through an ice cave without rC and get unavoidably fucked in the ass by freezing vapor" episode
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>>162143782
It's just an ice cave. See if it's the easy ones then leave.
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how does amy look like? I feel like jerking off on this cold, cloudy morning
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What if we got Amy and ponyposter to kill oneanother so they could stop shitting up the thread
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>>162143782
>not waiting for the clouds to dissipate
L
O
L
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>>162143782
>go into an ice cave without rC
>>>"unavoidable"

>>162143887
german and gay
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>>162143887
literally a lesbo
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>First run as Sorcerer in poscheng

Man, I can't handle all this fucking magic.
Being made of wet tissues and hope really spikes my paranoia, though.
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>>162143930
The ponyposter is probably the least annoying out of all of the gimmick posters. Kill the pedophiles and the vegan faggot instead, and then the threads will have a massive increase in quality.
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>Amy is a dyke
But the only reason I was playing her meme game was to have her notice me so I could eat shit from her ass
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Boy howdy am I glad i didn't take that bridge
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>>162144168
pony posting IS pedophilia though?
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>>162143974
>>162144079
I literally can't think of a worse combo from the top of my head

no fapping today, I'll just torture myself playing crawl
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Can we please go back to roguelikes instead of talking about game developers, tummies, shit and vegetarians please
I'll start

Are you excited for sil 1.4
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>>162144252
I have yet to notice.

>>162144180
>going to /rlg/ for the chicks
You're a lost cause.
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>>162143375
>If you delete your starter demon on turn 1 and clear the game without making a link you get a prerelease from the nightly build.
That's fucking crazy. Sauce?
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>>162144346
One of the demon players was posting screens from it a while back
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>>162144325
Not really, I don't really know where he can take it from here beyond a little tweaking for the less powerful abilities and I'm a little worried that the meta's gonna get clown out.
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>>162144325
If you eat a carnivore's shit, is it still vegan? I mean plants eat dirt and fertilizer which is made from shit and eating plants is vegan so it's ok right?

>tfw no vegan roguelike
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>>162144335
>lost cause
More like lost soul am I right

Pseudo should have a lost soul start like in fury and where you can kill shit that can oneshit you for crazy XP and loot thus greatly reducing the tedium of the game and the fun of the earlygame
It is a good idea
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>>162144509
Shieet.
Well, only three more days...
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>>162144587
How about making smithing not shit
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>>162145043
It's a hard line to balance. Old smithing was absurd.
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does anyone have a link to the TAS speedrun of nethack that's still in progress? i had it years ago but i cannot remember the speedrunner's name now
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>>162145496
Chei says:
>Fuck speedrunners who don't take it easy
Every time you speedrun with Chei, an elephant slug dies
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>>162145496
did you try googling "nethack TAS" and clicking any of the first 10 results
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I want to play roguelikes but I'm constipated so I can't focus
I really want to take a shit but can't


I guess that's what I get for talking about amy's shit in /rlg/, fucking karma
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>>162145920

liked and subscribed
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>>162115436
First win was SpAs^Oka
Fav combo, i have no clue.. SpEn is cool, i didnt play that many combos honestly
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>>162143887
Black long hair, pale white face, purple dress and black high-heeled boots, now start wanking off already.
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Alright, did it.
https://github.com/floatRand/PoschengbandR/tree/PseudoellipsisposchengbandR

Merged R into Pseudo.
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The lengths you have to go to to collect rainwater in cataclysm are ridiculous.

Its blatent artifical dificulty.
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>>162148145
>Cut up some leather
>Slap the leather funnels and containers on the ground
>Never die
>Loot/forage little for makeshifts and jars/jugs
>Live comfortably
>Day 1 craft chain then kill for tools or plastic and make plastic funnels to have more water than you can ever use
Quit while you're ahead. You haven't even begin to work your way through the bullshit.
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>>162148145
literally it's just place funnel get water
i can't tell if you're just being silly or if ur dumb
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>>162148145
step one: apply funnel
step two: there is no step two

or are you one of those guys who tries to craft his own society in the jungle without ever actually entering a city to get loot
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>>162148141
nice!
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>>162148145
Nevermind i am retarded
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>>162148473
Nah
I auctualy thought you needed to salvage them from cars because it never crossed my mind it might need fabrication 1.
So basicly
>>162148771
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>try speedrunning
>VsMo^Chei
>L:5
>find a good +7 plate armor Str+4 Regen+
>whew this randart is good
>find statueform in L:6 vault
>level 11 armor before I notice it

Jesus fuck shit! What a huge waste of exp
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>>162144325
Sil's pretty much a finished game. It's be nice if smithing was boosted a little, but as it stands right now there's really nothing much that needs changing.
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>>162149115
Some of the worse abilities could be made mroe desirable.
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>>162149115
add branches, an overworld, and edain x elf girl sex
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>>162149228
>>162149115
Well, it's open source, so you could make a fork and fix things.
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>>162148141
>Merged R into Pseudo.
Coooooool.
I wanna play that birth option that gives you a death sword right at the start.
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>>162147573
>now start wanking off already.
why did I get a boner
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>>162150938
only now? I fapped twice already
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>>162150994
Roguelikes.
>tfw amy will never bully you and dom you
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>>162150832
Mind, it is kinda tedious start since you are forced to wield it ( and can't even ?Mundane it )
Although I altered the damage-code so that if the damage is less than 1, it deals either 0 or 1 damage.

I of course could try to make bit of code that auto-feeds it slightly, just to make it 1d1 -5 -5 weapon, at least.
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>>162151059
she might if you are a girl anon

i bet you'd have to deal with a gigantic shoe/high heel fetish, judging by her game
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>>162151472
i mean all you need to do is buy a sling and hang out on d1 for a bit until you get it to +0/+0, right?
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>>162151475
>she might if you are a girl anon
anon please there's only one "girl" on /rlg/ and he's a transgender dude who I last saw two years ago.
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>>162151547
>>>/pol/
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How to do Vaults:5?
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>>162151546
No, no. Death sword counts the kills you made with it, not in general while wielding it.
It counts the final slash.
Anyway you can just kill rats and worms with it until it becomes good.

I wonder if when it grows in power it gets a boost in price that androids can use.

I mean, it should, but I remember androids have to actually re-wield an item that has been improved to get the benefits.

>>162151667
With extreme fear.
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>>162151620
well it makes sense that rlg wouldn't have any girls:

>http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html
>ASD is about 4.5 times more common among boys (1 in 42) than among girls (1 in 189).
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>>162151684
that's what i'm saying man

you poke the enemies down to low hp with your sling and finish them off with sord
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>>162151723
I don't think amy's autistic, she's just a meme advocate with terrible taste in videogames
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>>162151784
One another option is throwing flasks of oils.
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>>162151937
>I don't think amy's autistic
but she plays roguelikes?
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>>162152097
No, she only adds stuff to one.
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>>162152097
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>>162150832
Oops, actually, I noticed that new birth-code broke my runesword start too. Sorry, I'll fix that.
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>>162152784
have I ever told you you're a pretty great guy
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>>162151475
>tfw have foot fetish but footwear does nothing to my dick
it's weird but also not roguelikes but I needed to share anyway, sorry
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Goddamn how do those sub 20k turn 15 runers do it? I have my hands full just walking around
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>>162153803
Its mostly bots
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>>162153803
are u swinging enough breads
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what are the best uses for spellbinding sustains on paradox mage?
i kind of wanted to try it out, since i already won with the normie build.
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>>162152871
It should be fixed now. Apparently 5.0.3 also changed hit-code slightly, so there's no 5% hit chance regardless. I returned the whole thing.

Hopefully thing works now.
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>>162154738
i thought the base 5% was only if you actually had a nonnegative to-hit modifier

so e.g. sorcs or characters with heavy weapons and no dual-wield skill could potentially get 0% to hit
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>>162154837
Hm, ah, I think I was mistaken.

Still, with -20 skill-mod and -10 from weapon caused a test-character to start with 0% to-hit all across.

Maybe it's time to revert, but I don't think it will matter that much, really...
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>>162155107
Oh, and I did change the skills of runesword start as well now. They start with beginner regardless of class and can have max skill of master.
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>>162144168
Get out you fucking ghoul.
I'm the hero /rlg/ needs but doesn't deserve.
I am the night.
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>>162148141
Little help here?
I usually pull it just fine with regular pseudo.
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>>162157845

Oh well I just downloaded the whole thing as a zip, no problem.
>>
Wait, nope
doesn't work
nah-huh
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>>162158821
Play slex, there are currently two other anons playing on the server of their own free will! :)
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>>162158871
No.
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>>162157931
It's a branch of PoschengbandR.
Clone it first, then checkout the PseudoellipsisposchengbandR
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>>162159012
Hmm.

I'm not good at github.
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>>162159238
git checkout PseudoellipsisposchengbandR
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>>162159317

Well that certainly did something
Time to try the .exe with wine
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>>162159417
You don't need to run exe necessarily.
https://github.com/poschengband/poschengband has instructions how to build binaries native for Linux.
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>>162159532
yeah, but oddly enough the game runs better with wine than with linux. Also the .exe is already ready, so it's just two clicks.

Problem is that I changed computer and I think I screwed up with the wine installation.
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And done. Time to do the thing.
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Apparently rune knights, who usually start with their starting weapon enchanted with [absorption] get their rune sword inscribed with it too.
Oh well. Blademaster it is.
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>>162160706
Oh.

I actually should probably make a special case so you can swap runes on the runesword.
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haha I actually did it on my first try. Still real far from those 20k turncount monsters though
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>>162148141
>Bling-bling
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>>162161445
Actually, looking at the code, I won't do it now. Gotta run, maybe look into it someday.

They are applied permanently, so I'd have to move around chunks of code.
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>>162148141
The absolute madman.
Might even play it now, oh my.
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>>162161860
eh, it's not a big deal.
>>
what does R add to PCB what cool stuff is in it
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>>162162185
One more consonant.
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>>162162384
>pseudoellimpaposchengmpaRband

Yes.
YES!
Soon it will become so long it will be unpronounceable!
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>>162162491
why is mpa in there twice
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>>162162619
I didn't know where to put mpa so I put it twice.
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>>162162491
Chris cannot prevent us from having fun!
Joys of opensource.
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>>162162185
There's some stuff, I might be forgetting something:
> Much faster leveling, especially at the higher levels. Skills also level 3 times faster than usually
> Nexus doesn't scramble stats, siphons instead ( max 1d6+4 points ), giving saving throw after each point siphoned
> Monster spell damage lore
> Much, much faster identification. At 25 you get pseudo-id by default.
> Option for simple stat-display ( 3-40 ), although this was adopted to pseudo from R already.
> Two new birth options, forced runesword start and coffee-break mode
> One new personality, eclectic, being sort of jack of trades with 25% xp penalty.
> Three new classes, alchemist ( stores, reproduces and evaporates potions ), maledict ( wear cursed shit for bonuses, throw curses at things ) and freelancer ( start out as blank slate, purchase realms / skills / boosts by leveling ). Although I must warn that the classes are still unbalanced due to little playtesting.
> Pseudo-id property on items has been replaced with automapping-property. Stones of Nature automatically gain this.
> New race that gains automapping and autodetecting creatures, but can't use teleportation abilities outside of their own
> Bunch of new artifacts.
> Random artifact jewelry now generates in dungeons
> ?Artifact and ?*Artifact create single tailored {special} items, instead of granting random shit.
> Amnesia doesn't wipe map completely. Instead it rots it sort of.
> Teleport Other works on teleport-resistant uniques, although they get similar resist-chance to others, plus additional 50% chance of outright ignoring it.
> Itemization changes. Lot of useful consumeables drop earlier and more often, and perhaps are even found in shops.
> Shop changes. You can request shuffle stock for 10k, or hold item for 20k. Black market level scales with player.
> Brands work on monk/innate attacks.

Anyway, I did the merging during lunch break so I couldn't test it extensively, so if something odd crops up, please inform me.
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so do I need to compile pcbr separately if I already have pcb installed?
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>>162163221
Yes.
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>>162162983
Oh also
>One ( two ) new unique monsters
>Subclass for mystics, forfeits summonin/brands for melee techniques
>Cursed devices are uncursed with remove curse. You also get feeling if you use cursed device
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>>162107904

Can you inner flame an ally? I've never tried that. Will they turn on you if you do that?
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>>162107706

cBlink
>>
Guys, I saw Kate and Amy ERP in the discord
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>>162162983
>One new personality, eclectic, being sort of jack of trades with 25% xp penalty.
This sounds pretty bad.
>buff xp gain
>give the ability to be better for some of that xp gain

>Amnesia doesn't wipe map completely. Instead it rots it sort of.
Why not just remove it?
Maprot is an inherently bad "feature".
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How to start having fun in sil?
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>>162165235
by understanding the true meaning of fun.
5111 HADOOOOR.
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>>162151667
>>162151684
If you're a sturdy hitdudes just buff up and stairdance/carve your way to and kill wardens. Spellcasters can teleport and use their quieter spells to make their way to a back corner and clear from there

>>162165235
Follow the pastebin? It'd help if you elaborated on why you're not having fun.
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I don't really care about roguelikes anymore
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>>162165853
Cool blog, subscribed.
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>>162166121
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>>162165235
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>>162145496
>TAS speedrun of nethack
>TAS
lolwut

All you gotta do is press the keys real quick. It ain't no Super Mario World nor Donkey Kong Country.
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>>162144236
You're going 40. You'd have plenty of time to stop.

Unless it was a thunderstorm at night with no headlights.
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>>162170245
I meant rather I was glad that i didnt have to turn around and backtrack through those cars.
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>D:7 felid
>run into 3 orc packs and get bumrushed through 2 teles, run out of mp
>quaff haste to D:8
>centaur and ant
>run to a shaft and take it
>Fall 3 fucking levels into D:11 and a sleeping Nergalle
>sneak out, open and close door undetected
>mfw
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>>162169658
RNG manipulation and effective strategies for low turncount as well, probably.
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>>162170361
It's like you don't even have an ablative spiked penis or wsomething
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>>162170361
Eh. It'd have been inconvenient, but not dangerous by any stretch. And the whole game is an exercise in inconvenience.
>>
How do you go about naming your characters? What's the best one you've come up with?
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>>162170948
Smashing my keyboard works
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>>162170948
Penance
Pain
Suffering
Hunger
Fear
Jackie99
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>>162171109
>owtheedge.png
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>>162170948
Always default/random.
>>
Today on Cataclysm i learned that i should not try to skip across a minefield
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>>162172320
No shit sherlock. You don't need minefields at all
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>>162170948
In Demon I usually let it be whatever random word that comes to mind quickly. For dark/ice orb of power characters I name them after pasta.

In DCSS (offline) I generally let the names be randomly generated, but there are a few randomly generated names that have stood out to me so I have used them a few times.
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>>162172320
>>162172749
Minefields really are annoying, especially when driving, but the can be fun to lure monsters into.
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>>162170948
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>162172975
Rarely an issue. Then again, I always drive hulks so I'm too allergic to forest roads and bridges.
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>it's a dungeon guardian that can summon monsters that can summon monsters episode

Nah, fuck this.
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>>162173724
>giant hall bottom
>level 33
unless you're a demigod, get the fuck out. That guy is crazy strong for his depth.
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>>162173824
Yea, I figured that out as soon as I saw he also summoned a Greater Titan which seems only slightly weaker then Utgard himself.
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With this plus battle frenzy I have 278 damage and 55% accuracy against 150 ac, probably does more damage than my offensive spells.

>>162173724
It's fun to turn that back on them. I summoned a skull druj who drowned fafner in a swarm of liches.
>>
Hey guys thinking about making a fork that changes a few things about riding in PCB. Whats a good name for the fork so that it makes pseudoellipsismpaposchengbandR even longer?
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>>162174713
pseudoellipsismpaposchengbandRemix
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>>162174713
Name it after that sword you could ride.
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>>162174257
>the charmed pendant randart
oh god.
This is murder.
MURDER
THIS IS PAINFUL TO LOOK AT STOP
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>>162174713
PseudoslexelliposchengmpabandRemix
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Wow! Everything looks so cosmic!
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>>162175757
Hey Lich, let me chill for a sec OK?
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>>162176035
>36
>Small levels still on
;_;7
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>>162175459
Too late, I'm already using it to hack up dragons with life drain spells to make up for having no ac.
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>>162179638
you know that pendant would have been the solidest shit ever for your character, right
randarts is russian roulette
>>
Whats level should I be to try to tame and ride a 2-headed hydra from the south swamps? I cleared stronghold and I'm level 15, but last time I tried to tame a hydra it kept throwing me off even after like 20 attempts at 1 * of health.
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>>162179638
>116 ac
>no ac
I feel like I was playing my warriors wrong
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>>162179839
Yeah, but I love randarts too much. It's disappointing how you never get any spellcasting related ones, though.

>>162180161
As a warrior you don't have 500 hp at level 38.
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>>162180496
I think I had less actually.
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Poor little steel dragon.

>>162180593
Low con, I guess? I try to start raising and wearing +con gear around level 30 where it seems to start making a noticeable effect on your hp.
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>>162181210
What combo makes the hugest dude?
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>>162169658
turncount speedrun you dip

it's a tas because it makes heavy use of savestats, luck manipulation, etc
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>>162173113
>spunk leglamp

>>162174003
greater titans don't breathe frost for 900 damage
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>>162181361
for the most fuckhuge healthbar possible you want a mighty zombie berserker
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>>162174713

PseudoslexelliposchengmpabandRinglemix
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>>162181727
I hope I make you proud sempai
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>>162182139
ackthually the highest HP would be an android munchkin berserker.
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>>162182128
Pseudoellimpaposchengband-R-Ingle
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Holy fuck, what version of PCB am I supposed to play?

Why are there so many now?
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>>162182268
Yeah but munchkin is heresy.
Don't play a munchkin snotling tourist.
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>>162182268
do androids have more hp than zombies? whoops
munchkin doesn't count though
should change that to a birth option or something; it's pretty dumb that it's a personality
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>>162182284
>>162182128
Stop beating a dead horse
especially one that's been buried for so long people forgot about it
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>>162182397
>>162182452
yea like lucky personality
has no place in the real game
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>>162182520
u cant ride a ded hors retar
yu can ride ringle tho
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>>162182578
pick lucky every gaem no matter what
is best personality
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>>162182920
Unless you play a rune knight which literally gets to create a rune that can give you the [lucky] status
But that's only at level 40
And even then the only personality that even comes near in terms of skill is sexy and it aggravates
so the only reason you would ever pick sexy over lucky is if you're playing a dude that aggravates by default and is a rune knight.
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C:DDA has some...interesting change logs

"#6029 (Dec 8, 2016 8:59:53 AM)
Add a compile mode that checks for printf format errors.
Fix it fix it fix it"
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>>162183187
i want to make beastmen get a *permanent* self-polymorph ability instead of a normal mutation so they can spam it forever to scum for white aura and a demigod body
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>>162182139
I CAN FEEL THE BUMP OVERWHELMING ME
IT IS A GOOD PAIN!
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>>162182268
looks like androids have the same liferating as zombos: 108%

half-titans get 110. they're a p. stronk race
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>cast phasedoor
>land next to stormbringer
>instantly die from full health
okay i am not going to get a sorcerer to 35 after all

if i was one level higher i would have had dimensiondoor and could have kited him to death completely safely
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>>162185636
>okay i am not going to get a sorcerer to 35 after all
is
are you
did you put yourself through all this just to win a stupid bet
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>>162183653
>Terrible sword sword
Haha time for wield-ID!
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>>162185636
>Graveyard:56
Should have given in to the grind
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>>162185636
>cast phasedoor
fault.
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>>162186179
No actually i just wanted to play a sorc

I still got something out of it at least: I found out that sorcs' spell fail messages were bugged and fixed it in Pseudo.
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Whats a good lvl 20 mutation for an Ares demigod Cavalry? Infernal Deal, Fast Learner, Unyielding, and untouchable look good.
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>>162187224
Unyielding and Untouchable are both kind of shitty. the bonuses are like 50hp and 15ac at max level.

Evasion is pretty popular because less damage from breath is more better.
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>>162186286
Got 540hp at level 15 and I got dethanc off the variant maintainer. Things are looking up
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>>162189035
>540hp at level 15
jesus christ im never playing a sorcerer again
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>>162189035
why didn't you start with the death sword thing?
Zerkers and death swords mash together perfectly. Except for that part where zerkers suck.
I call it the lategame.
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>>162187482
Untouchable is 20 ac, it's okay I guess, since it's like having an extra armor slot that doesn't give resists and is actually a big boost at level 20 for a lot of characters, and stays more relevant than infernal deal at high levels.

Unyielding gives you +xl hp, take it at level 40 if you must (sorcerer, maybe?).
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>>162190260
I think sorc would still prefer evasion + onewithmagic
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>tfw no orb, amulet, car base, serpent kill, ascension, or gf
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>>162191157
surely you must have beaten ONE roguelike
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>>162191157
start with the amulet, then use the skills you learned there to get the orb, then forget everything you ever knew about "elegant" design and proceed to play PCB
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>no superpseudoellimpaposchengRand
Gesundheit ;_;
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>>162191801
>no bandhack: cataclysm silsoup
why even live
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>>162191484
(real) roguelikes are hard
and the sense of accomplishment is hollow since you pretty much only get a pre-programmed "You win!" message in most games and nothing that actually affects your real life
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>>162192243
>no elona: dark arcana netband
I wonder who's behind this
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>>162192328
anon... ;_;
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>>162192328
You are a fucking idiot. Kill your self-pitying, baby-bitch self.
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>>162189245
I'm still back in 5.0.0

>>162191157
You can win a tabtaur or tabgoyle pretty easily. Naga waifu, Lightning mastery or close to it is babbies first brogue win. Car bases are easy. Spend the first two days crafting armor and weapons then just abuse sprint, slowing terrain and reach attacks. Just walk away and drive off whenever shit gets stupid. Then play angband which isn't a retarded fork a guy made so he could enjoy an even harder angband full of bullshit.
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>>162191157
>making an autism wagon is the win condition for DDA

Surely there must be a better standard for "endgame" than this.
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>>162193487
No /b/ullying allowed
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>>162192328
look on the bright side, anon!
yeah the accomplishment of winning a roguelike doesn't matter, but neither does anything else you do in life!

we all die in the end, after all~
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>>162193791
I only say these things because I care.
>>
FUG. I just splat'd like a tard. Got my first Azog kill in Ocaves after fighting a bunch germlins for like 10 minutes not realizing they bred explosively. After I recalled out of the caves I started walking back to town but I got hungry and went out of the overworld map, and I had no food because the fucking gremlins ate all my shit. I kept quaffing every potion I had but I ended up dying of starvation in the middle of the wilderness. Time to study for calc final I guess
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>>162193972
It's even better: after we die, it's only a matter of time before random background noise of the universe completely erases literally (literally) everything we could have ever done!
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>>162194213
recall back to stronghold if you run out of food

you'll probably find some rations on the ground or something
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>>162193728
Once you have a sack of guns, explosives, and some kind of vehicle to outrun anything it's not like nearly any location isn't a pushover. Tools to cheese the temples are common.

>>162194213
Only dip the first level then head to town so you always recall back to it. Once you're done with stronghold reset it by recalling on the first floor so you can go from the wilderness to a town. You shoud honestly give up pcb if you're not going to read descriptions let alone monster spoilers. You're in for an ass reaming once the game takes the training wheels off and it only gets more savage from there. Go do something else instead of pissing hundreds of hours away getting nowhere.
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>>162124317
Doom is repetitive and poorly balanced.
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>>162195196
*doomrl
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>>162195347
D**M
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>>162195420
DRL
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>>162195420
*MOOOM
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>>162195420
DuMo
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>>162193728
I had a super close call with death after building my death wagon
I was roaming from city to city slaughtering everything with my double tesla turret double rail gun turret double layered FAGGOT FUCKER 5000, sometimes going on foot with my handheld explosive incendiary railgun turret thing to go butcher corpses so they wouldn't revive
in one city I got out of the vehicle to start butchering shit after I thought my turrets cleared most of the zombies out, but I kept getting interrupted by more and more zombies coming into my flashlight's range, away from my deathmobile, causing me to get drawn out further and further away to butcher those new corpses
eventually I ran completely out of ammo for the rail gun and a spare rifle I brought along, and had to resort to lighting fires with pieces of thread under the zombies' feet while whacking them
after doing this for a while, a zombie soldier walks up to me, and I think nothing of it, so I light a fire under him and whack him until he dies
then BOOOOM, a grenade he was carrying explodes right in my fucking face due to the thread-fire, pushing my legs into : and my torso to || I think, even with all the heavy survivor armor I was stacking, and also giving me a shit ton of pain setting my speed to 25
I'm like oh FUCK, pop some oxycodone, adderall, caffeine pills, and start dragging my self all the way back to my deathmobile
suddenly more shit starts flying at the speed of light towards me one by one and taking pot shots at me while I'm down
I whip out a spare junk pistol with limited ammo, trying to kill everything before they can touch my : head
luckily I made it back to the deathmobile ^.^
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>>162197389
D**medain.
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>>162197530
more like cuckmobile
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>>162197530
>^.^
A German comes into view
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>>162197530
i would unironically watch a youtube playthrough of someone who is good playing cdda from the start and just getting to that point where they can fuck shit up with their wincar
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>>162197829
>waiting like 30 literal hours for the guy to outfit his entire car with military composite armor, reinforced solar panels, double walls, vehicle-mounted tool stations, turrets, etc.
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>>162197530
Throw flashlights. As long as you're decently armored and have heavy painkillers and stims you can use zombie pheramones to give you breathing room then assault rifles and submachineguns to clear the way.
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>>162198103
This. i spent 6 actual years building my faggotmobile and I probably would have killed myself if I didn't have stuff to watch while I did it
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>>162198715
>i spent 6 actual years building my faggotmobile
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>>162141339
awoo
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>>162174257
wow all the A: Restore Mana of standart Charmed Pendant turned into a huge combat bonus on that randart...beautiful

Shame kindof though, since mages get so much out of Restore Mana, but still nice ammy
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>>162140816
>Am I just bad or is fire resistance mandatory in the lategame?

Fire dragons can easily oneshot a 4CON character with their breath.

You're going to need one pip of resist fire, resist dark, resist cold, and resist poison.

Clarity also.
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Post your face when jupiter hell's kikestarter won't be met.
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>>162201118
>resist dark
You mean having a light?
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>>162201867
You need a lot more than a lantern senpai
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>>162201825
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>>162201975
Are you drunk, anon?
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>>162202356
Clearly not enough.
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>>162201825
Talking about doomrl, did someone made an android port of it already ?
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>>162201825

If relatively unknown Visual Novels could gather a 100k$ kickstarter out of nowhere just for some dumb english translation then Jupiter H*ck could do it too
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>>162202838
did someone make
or
has someone made
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>>162206546
How did you get into such a situation?
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Just finished up a Deep dwarf game.
Makhleb + Vampiric Executioner Axe + Ripose gloves + DD damage shaving is the most OP combination in crawl ever.

I literally never struggled at any point in the game, I had always thought deep dwarf was some weak gimmick race but holy fuck was I proved wrong.
>>
>>162210594

always include a screenshot
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>>162210701
>Letting you see the pink *WIZARD*
Yeah no
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>>162207970

he died cuz baddie!
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It seems that nobody plays ADOM anymore - it sucks so much now?
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>>162210701
Here's the morgue
>http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Vajrapani/morgue-Vajrapani-20161209-004812.txt
I recently got linux so I don't really know how the fug how it works, or how to take a screenshot.
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>>162211259
If you have to pay for it, it isn't really a roguelike.
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is there any armor better than heavy survivor in CDDA?
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>>162211476
Power armor is better for pure protection, but prevents you from carrying things and needs to be powered.
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Hey, I'm trying to remember the name of a coffee-break roguelike that's played in browser with the plot-twist that you're actually an alien trying to get home.
Any ideas?
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>start a new game
>oh boy I'm definitely in the mood to play today
>a kobold appears into view
>suddenly shoots 1 (one) curare poisoning the whole of my hp bar in addition to getting slowed

there should be a law against this bullshit
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>>162214646
realm of the mad dog

>>162211259
Some retard always comes into this general and says something like this. We have never played ADOM except for one or two shitposters here or there.
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>>162214896
>bullshit
>in roguelikes

Anon, that IS the law.
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How do I get rid of cursed gear as a Berserker in PCB? I'm tired of my fucking weapon spawning animals.
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>>162215459
Throw it away.
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>>162215459
You can take it off with enough tries, unless it is permanently cursed.
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>>162207970
Misjudged its LoS (thought I needed only 2 steps to escape), then ab didn't make it leave, tried to get more HP by quaffing curing — didn't work — it hit every turn, then read fear, that didn't help either. Should've probably shot it with a wand.
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>>162215459
Just try to take it off

Zerkers have something like a 1/20 chance per attempt to just overpower the curse with PURE MUSCULAR ANGER
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>>162115436
>First win
DdFi of mak with a vamp laj
>Favorite combo
atm probably either FoFi of qaz or HuWn of xom
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>>162217031
>Not FoWn^Xom
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>>162115436
>First win combo?
DsIE^Kiku, borgs is a good spell for baddies (and everyone else)

Favorite combo now?
anything with hexes, evo and/or heavy armour. VS, Ha, Ds, HO
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That's what I get for thinking dungeon books can't be destroyed.

Should have just genocided everyone.
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>>162223023
books 3 and 4 have "cannot be harmed by the elements" so they're immune to itemdestruction while in your pack, but shit like mana/chaos/disint breath can still destroy them on the ground
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oh yeah, or the unique elementals stomping on them while inside the vault

in vanilla angband the dungeon books are artifacts which means they're immune to all that shit but also means you can only ever find one of each
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What's the best route for getting a vehicle that doesn't suck? Can you reasonably often find one in functioning condition or do you have to grind mechanics and hack one together?
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>>162225086
Usually you grind mechanics with lockpicking/crowbar macroing doors to mechanics 2 and just instal a missing part so you have the base frame you want. Otherwise, you eventually find a jack and at least 1 vehicle that only needs its tires replaced in medium+ sized towns. Nailing wood boxes onto that gets you by until you craft a welding rig.
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>>162225086
most of the ones you find just have ~1-2 things wrong with them

find something decent like an RV and slap on the wheels/engine/battery that it's missing (scavenged from its neighbors of course)
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https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/17f5411d996bd748f839576dc0bf3eae757cf36c

Chance for a good wand went down 65%. While this makes other acquirements worthwhile, you're now very likely to not see HW and hasting wands in a normal game.
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>>162226231
>making badquirement worse
What an incorrect decision.
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>>162226231
>Go from
>Don't train magic, train evo and wish for staves to get rods and books to get manuals
>Rod's now 1/8, the rod god is removed, wands are overwhelmingly low on current and max charges and you can't get a manual to save your life
Ever since they buffed the chance of randart jewelry so it wasn't basically wand acq they were all viable. Fucking can't believe they feel the need to hurt it even more.
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>>162226231
wand fags rolling in their graves lmao
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>>162210594
Try playing something like DDWr or DDVM then.
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>>162226231

That's just acquirement right? Not the spawn rate itself?
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>>162226231
So now that rods and wands are no longer the go-to, what is it?

Jewellery? Armour? Food?
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>>162226743
Always
Acquire
Armor!
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>>162226743

>wands
>go-to

lmao
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>>162227028
Stop bullying me.

This is your last warning.
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>>162226743
Always Acquire Food. Nutrition is important to a growing psychopath!
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>>162226231
Another instance of 'balance' from the dullest roguelike in the history of roguelikes. Seriously each commit by the Devil's Team and their pals from the Tavern as they fight variety and flavor has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the nonsensical decisions, the game’s only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of interesting tactical situations, all to make wands uncommon, to make High Elves seem nonexistent.

Perhaps the die was cast when Campbell vetoed the idea of Linley directing the development; he made sure the game would never be mistaken for a real roguelike that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for J.R.R. Tolkein's books. DCSS might be anti-fun (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Poschengband roguelike in its refusal of flavor, mechanics and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the gameplay is good though
"No!"
The mechanics are dreadful; the game was terrible. As I played, I noticed that every time an out of depth monster spawned, the developer insisted instead that the monster "was an interesting tactical situation."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Campbell's mind is so governed by a distorted sense of balance and dead playstyles that he has no other style of developing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of DCSS by the same Edmund McMillen. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing DCSS at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to play The Binding of Isaac." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play DCSS you are, in fact, trained to play BoI.
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>>162227679
https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/416
https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/421
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>>162227679
this never fails to amuse me
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What is your favourite power source for bionics in cataclysm dda

Battery system is best
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>>162226743
Weapon or jewellery. I'd probably go for weapon early on and jewellery later. Special armor case for nagas and centaurs.

>>162227679
What's the original version of this pasta?
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>>162228561
Go and look in any Harry Potter thread on /tv/ or /lit/
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>>162227679
>fighting variety
because "lmao acquire wands every game no matter what" was variety?

they're trying to INCREASE variety in acq options
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>>162228787

>lmao acquire wands every game

you're the only one doing that you baddie
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>>162228507
the ones that give you infinite free power are best

solar panel, joint torsion ratchet, internal furnace

the first two require less effort but furnace + a way to chop down trees can get you thousands of points of bionic power back fairly quickly

the other options are worse because they actually cost resources and/or effort to recharge your cyborg batteries
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nice pit

who wants to bet i instantly die if i walk into view of them
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>>162229792
What's the worst that could happen?

And imagine all that loot!
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Do any new roguelikes ever come out?

I check /rlg/ like once a year, and it's always the same 2 or 3 games being talked about every time, ad museum
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>>162228149

I agree with the Ogre changes. This will make it more playable and fun.
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>>162230601
Stop thinking like a nethack player
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>>162230913

You really think they'll make a clean buff of Ogres with no downsides even this one pushed through? They'll use this as an excuse to massacre M/F apts because it's "too high" while the other weapon apts are too low.
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>>162230720
a few anons have played Shadow of the Wyrm
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>>162230720
Mostly phone roguelikes of varying quality.

I tried 1 bit rogue eariler it was pretty bad.

It stretches the definition of roguelike a tiny bit (emphasis on tiny) but hoplite is pretty fun
Pixel dungeon gets new forks all the time
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>>162226231
>armour goes from #1 no-brainer acq to #1 no-brainer acq
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>>162227679
>the anti-Poschengband roguelike
it's not crawl, but can you please recommend this?
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>>162231443
probably sil imo
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>>162231140
that's fine (would still be a buff) and would make ogres less one-dimensional

hopefully next to go: merfolk's stupid +4 polearm apt
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>>162231186
Also new and in active development is caves which is pretty great and it just gets better with every update

Very few squares on screen at once though especialy considering the massive maps but its not to big a deal as there are not many wide open areas unless you mine them out (you will mine through a lot of rock to get places its a theme of the game)

The big hard hitting damage sponge at the entrance to the next floor is redicilous but you can usualy avoid him and get to the exit portal.

Ranged weapons have a range of 2 squares it seems silly at first but it works pretty well.
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>>162231678

What do you mean that's fine? Have you ever played an OgHu?
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>>162228507
Torsion ratchet is free slow power.
Metabolic interchange is mostly free fast power.
Cable charger plus integrated toolset turns you into a living welding rig, otherwise it's okay I guess.
Solar panels and ethanol burner are things you throw in because you have them, not because they are actually useful.
Battery is okay if it's all you have, but that is almost never the case outside of a few professions.
Internal furnace lets you eat your rifle accidentally.
Pretty sure nobody has ever used the plutonium one.
>>
noobs are asleep
post tummies
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>>162231832
m&f +3 -> +1 or 0 with a large magic boost wouldn't hurt much aside from OgBe which is already pretty strong
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>>162231951
>Internal furnace lets you eat your rifle accidentally.
not any more: you can turn it on/off in the bionics menu

just turn it on right before you eat a tree then turn it back off again afterwards
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Is it possible to repair broken consoles or are you just meant to scavange them for parts.
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>all the rocks miss
>berserking tree mode with 0 skill shortsword kills him anyway
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>>162233160
why are you still using a shortsword
havent you found any clubs or maces yet
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>>162233498
Rocks only final destination.
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>>162233498

Preparation for the incoming M/F apt """"balance"""""
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>>162233650
even if they nerfed it to -2 (they won't) GSC would still be the best late-game choice
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>>162233696

>they won't

hehe
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>>162192328
All accomplishment is ultimately hollow.
I got the orb once, and immediately lost all interest in crawl. It took years before I tried it again. Getting a gf would probably kill me.
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>>162191484
You know i dont think i ever have myself oddly.
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>>162192328
idk i still get a bit of a glow, maybe that's why i keep coming back
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>>162234082
Auctualy yes i have i retrived the fleece in hoplite
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tummy slaaaash!
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>>162193728
>Killing every single zombie.
>Having one of every item
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Never ever
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>>162234268
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>>162233834
Humans are the only race on earth who has terraformed his own planet so much it kicked evolution into fifth gear and now has the luxury to be able to think about the world and himself instead of frantically scavenging for food, shelter and a mate.

And here you are complaining about it.
Even if everything in life has no "higher" meaning the most important thing is to have fun.
So go have fun.
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>>162234857
but i hate fun
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>>162191157
>tfw orb, amulet, amulet, 3 sils and V kill but no gf

Feels good
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>>162231678
>Less one-dimensional
Are you stupid? They'd have to reduce M&F to -3 or nerf giant clubs severely for ogres to be less one-dimensional.
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>>162235767
reducing M&F to 0 would be good enough

lots of character builds don't want 2H weapons, especially ones with bad defenses like ogres, and the magic apts will make less melee focused builds more viable
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>>162235959
Giant clubs have 20 base damage and reach mindelay at 18 skill. Compare this to triple swords (17 dmg, 24 skill), battleaxes/great swords/glaives (15 dmg, 20 skill), exec axes (18 dmg, 26 skill), great maces (17 dmg, 20 skill) and bardiches (18 dmg, 26 skill). Even at -2 it would be worth to be going for giant clubs (not spiked). Trolls don't go for giant clubs only because they have claws 3.
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>>162236086
And I forgot - protection is a common brand for maces & flails, so even ogre casters could consider giant clubs.
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>>162231678

>one-dimensional

What the hell are you babbling about? Talk like a normal human being since your buzzword/s are not appreciated here
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>>162235959

>lots of character builds don't want 2H weapons

see >>162228930
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>>162236086
it's still not a no-brainer choice if your primary damage output is non-melee. shields are good, ogres are fragile

>>162236689
this question is so dumb i'm not gonna answer it, try taking your 2 (two) int gargoyle brain and figure it out yourself

>>162236792
did you quote the wrong post? if not, see above. if i'm pumping conj i'm not gonna dump 18 points in m&f (assuming the apt is no longer +3) and go without a shield
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>>162236792
also that is in no way controversial (do deep elves want 2H weapons? vampires? a majority of heavy magic or ranged builds?)
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>>162236928

The quote is correct.
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>>162144236
what game is this plz
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>>162236928

Your usage of buzzwords automatically discards anything of your attempt for a proper discussion.

So what's wrong with the M/F apt of Ogres again? Without being retarded this time please.
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>>162237881
literally (literally) read the fucking thread
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>>162237767
Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead
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>>162238047
thanks!
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>>162238017

Since this >>162230913 is your only post that barely made sense, your problem with Ogre M/F apts is basically because it's unplayable and unfun? How is that in any way a valid reason for a nerf? Just play minotaurs then if that's the only thing you can play. You'll have more fun that way.
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>>162230913
I played Og a lot because it was easy to hit hard, so this change is a negative for me.
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If Ogres have their M/F reduced to -2 or anywhere near that, it'll just be a Basajaunak with a stealth Ogre removal. Wake up! The Ogres are being removed!
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my PCB sniper is now capable of oneshotting 1000-hp ancient dragons (after spending 6 turns charging up like a shitty DBZ character with a crossbow)

the class is kinda shitty against things that are already awake though. or at least worse than archer
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Decided to play Sorcerer in poscheng. What should I expect aside from having all the toughness of wet cardboard?
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>>162240708
It breathes. What a noble sacrifice!
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>>162240708

You might have to spend some time looking through all the spellbooks you have and deciding which to keep on hand -- there are way more books than you can carry and a lot have redundant spells in them.

As a sorc you can cast pretty much any buff you want including regen/telepathy/resistances/haste. Probably set macros for these because you will want to be casting them constantly. I used f6-f9 for buffs, with f5 being Nature Awareness and f1-4 being various damage spells)

Remember that the Life and Crusade books are sold in the green 4 instead of the bookstore -- crusade 2 has holy orb which is a great staple damage spell, being cheap to cast and doing double damage to evil targets.

oh yeah, and never not be spamming Telepathy and Nature Awareness because any dungeon level with respectable loot will probably also have things that can 1 or 2-shot you
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>>162241553
>>162241646
Got it, thanks. Here goes nothing.
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fun is an activity that is designed to make you lose interest in the truth

fun is an activity that is designed to be more attractive than reality

fun is engaging interactive fiction

fun is a pleasurable distraction

fun has no meaning

fun is a sedative

fun is a narcotic

fun is a meme

fun is a prison

fun is suicide

fun is a drug

fun is death

fun is a lie
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>>162243971
>fun is a meme
but meme's, are good
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>>162243971

you dropped your Pandemonium Pizza
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>>162243971
>the le ***dopamine addiction*** (xD) must be le avoided so as not to erode my nihilistic sensibilities xDD
*tips porkboy*
G'day mil'day.
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>>162243971

This is the song of DCSS, as passed down by a generation of degenerate devs.
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There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest ogre around?! Oh my God.

I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your Orc:2 room, giggling like a little ogre girl as you once again type "remove because it's not interesting" while adding some pseudo-intellectual filler you've thought of just to
lengthen your 2 (two) int post to justify a removal. Maybe you're such a
disgusting Cr*wlDevDrone that you actually paid for a tavern pass, so you can just support the devil's team. Oh, and we all know your epic comments. The "redundant" "unneeded" "uninteresting" "boring" isn't it? I bet you imagine removing yourself every morning because you have a +3 M/F apt, laughing so hard as you post your "design ideas" which always includes removing content that you drop your Pandemonium Pizza on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with an ogre mother. You are a fat fucking manlet ogre, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of doing everything for you all goddamn day, everyday, for a grown ogre who spends all his time posting on tavern about what to nerf or remove. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be an ogre hunter or an ogre venom mage or something grand, and then you became a Cr*wlDevDrone. A pathetic american Cr*wlDevDrone. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how imbalanced her M/F apt is and how she wishes she could just remove herself. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "LOL, too good pls nerf or remove" You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little manlet ogre laughing in the dark 1x1 tile by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.

Forever...
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>>162243971
Fuck you I like escapism
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>>162246004

is this pasta?
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>>162246443
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/There%20he%20is.%20There%20he%20goes%20again.%20Look%2C%20everyone%21%20He%20posted%20it%20once%20again%21/
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>Pseudo has Warg-quest on no_wilderness
>Uncompleteable on R if you have ironman_downward or coffeebreak.

Well, time to hack up code again.
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>tfw ascended in real life
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What the h*ck are ya'll talkin about?

Post roguelikes or tummies
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>>162115436
Mountain Dwarf Fighter back when they existed.

Haven't played DCSS lately.
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>check out Sil
>looks vegan at first
>suddenly a strip of dried meat
ONE JOB CJ
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>>162248431
Hey veganposter, you should play slex and select the topmodel role, those actually get penalized for eating meat. Of course, when I play as one, I happily chow down those giant corpses anyway because fuck veganism. :P
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>>162247859
>You are now hated by all.
>Ru indicates that your awakening is now complete.
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>>162115436

First win
>DDFi of Makhleb

Current fav
>HeFe of Vehumet
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>>162249093
peench peench
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>>162231143
Did it ever get fixed up? I tabbed around like a year ago with no idea what I was doing, got something nice and basically just kept doing deeper until I quit from bumping anything to death effortlessly.

>>162230720
Not really. It's a very small niche with little profit potential compared to the effort needed to put in to make one let alone a good one. Demon's updating in a couple days. We'll find out if we get a sil update on january third. PCB updated recently. There's a QoL PCB fork that's been successful.

>>162233062
afaik, no. Just good for parts.
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A quick poscheng sorcerer question. Which spellbooks should I actually keep around? Need to trim my shit down to the most useful options so I can actually hold all this loot.
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>>162249920
Browse and examine your spell. Buffs to not die. Escape options. Detection. Some kind of AoE
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>>162249920
Nature 2 and 3.
Trump 2/Sorcery 3.
Craft 2/Life 4.
Spellbook of choice for offensive stuff.
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>>162250176
>Craft 2
Meant Craft 3.
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>>162247553
And done, hopefully in such manner it doesn't break things. Quest with multiple targets on main dungeons spawn deeper so if you missed the floor ( and can't get back due to no stairs ), you can just kill them deeper.
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>no roguelike where you play as a dunedain transfer student getting bullied by the children of the shire for your tall stature and small, hairless feet
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>>162250641
And unproportionately small penis
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>>162250924
Inchposter get OUT.
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>>162250963
There's that Frododick /h/ floating somewhere.
That's how hobbits "compensate".
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ROGUELIKES
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>>162251034
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Fug, in PCB, shop prices are Wis instead of Cha aren't they? It's like 3k to *id something and it's breaking my balls.
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>>162250924
>>162251052

What's wrong with small penises? I like small feminine penises.
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>>162251071
gayyy lmao
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>>162250054
>>162250176
Alright, thank you.
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>>162087546
Hey PCB guy, what were the colors for a ring of protection {Warning} ?
White was something
Pink was a unique spawned
There was a rare third I forgot
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>>162252081
if (r_ptr->level > p_ptr->lev + 30)
color = "black";
else if (r_ptr->level > p_ptr->lev + 15)
color = "purple";
else if (r_ptr->level > p_ptr->lev + 5)
color = "deep red";
else if (r_ptr->level > p_ptr->lev - 5)
color = "red";
else if (r_ptr->level > p_ptr->lev - 15)
color = "pink";
else
color = "white";

Basically unique spawned and color denotes the how dangerous it is compared to you.

Of course, it also warns if you enter into range of some dangerous breaths/melee attacks, plus warns of traps.
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Well I guess...
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>>162252790
Zombie zerker power I guess...

>>162252696
Thanks man!
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>>162252954
Grendel is not really going to threaten a character with 950 hp and (probably) upwards of 200 damage.
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>>162252954
Wait how do you have so much HP so early on
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>>162253230
Guess so. I had lasting ptsd from all my tourists that had a rough time. Only had 131 damage at the time. Juggled some gear and I'm back to 500+ a turn agaisnt anything without rpois or is good/undead

>>162253326
I asked the thread and they recommended mighty zombie berserker for the most meme heath block memes
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>>162256132
>Christmas gift's will soon be active in Sil
>A legion of Edains will march forth riding Ringil
Are you prepared?
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>>162252954
Gud upgrade for the existing SiWr ring
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>>162170245
Maybe he was going faster beforehand and slowed down to look at the broken bridge
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>demon is just an SMT roguelike
does it have matador?
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>>162238047
What am i looking at here is it fanart or did some madman auctualy program that display.
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What's the general mid-game strategy for Elf Fire Elementalists?
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>>162259503
1:In the beginning rape everything with your fire spells
2:In the middle adapt to floor books or God gifts with high int and high spellcasting & conjuration aptitudes
3:Do not tab 3 yaks.
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>>162259503
How do you find yourself in this situation?
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>>162261042

>walk downstairs
>surrounded by yaks
>walk upstairs
>try to keep moving
>die
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>>162261251
>fear
>slow
>invis
Idk.. Plenty of options to run out from here
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>>162148141
Do I need MVS to compile this, or is it already being of compiled?
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>>162262632
>Oh hey a bunch of fire trolls I guess I'll chew on them
>***Low HP Warning***
>All the speed and potions in the world can't save the fault before recall kicked in
>Didn't even gear swap
Fug
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>>162262632
The current version includes x86 binaries in the git.
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>>162263918
>binaries included
>now have zero excuse not to play

Then may God have mercy on my soul.
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>>162264198
nipples
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>>162264198
>>162264812
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>>162265149
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>>162248545
scraping the bottom of the barrel are you amy
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>>162266385
Targeting single people is generally a bad shilling tactic, but in this case we're talking about personalized shilling towards an influential, charismatic individual.
It's like AYOYOYO NONONO-ing another priest.
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>>162266385
Amy is a goddess, and we are lucky to have her.
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>>162265149
yes, this is absolutely wunderbar.
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>>162266597
Kate, go back to the discord
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>>162227679
I can't believe I got all the way up to
>I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated.

without realizing this was /lit/ pasta
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>>162265326
Büschlieflüschlie!
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>>162266597
she's a literal faggot though
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>Utility Vest is a Belt slot item
What
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>>162267052
And her game is a meme nobody likes and tries only ironically.
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Having bit of fun again with an unique monster.
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>>162267560
also true, yes
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DONAAAAAAAAAALD TRUMP!!!
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It boggles my mind demigods are still the way they are. I get they are a challenge race, but I guess its the name that bothers me more than anything. You expect they would be awesome but they are dog shit.
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>>162267795
Amy pls bully me sexually
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>>162267541
You'll express that sentiment quite a lot when playing DDA. Just wait until you get a fursuit or flask of horse semen.
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>>162265149
This made me want to start a nightmare mode demigod of Hades lucky berserker with ironman_rooms on.
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>>162268053
I actually found a dinosuit. Noted it on the map in case I really needed some winter gear.
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>>162268359
Oy vey!
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>easy identify, easy lore

y/n?
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>>162259503

the first step is to use your consumables early

while the second step is to not waste your exp on fighting and dodging bloat
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>>162270003
sure. ID gaming isn't usually fun so the less ID'ing the better. PCBRemix made a few changes into ez id thats worth a look.
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>>162270003
yes unless you hate yourself for some reason
>>162270029
Hey, winblows is good for maulers.
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>>162270015

I usually leave fighting on for the HP. That wouldn't work?
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>>162270229
>>162270271
>monsters learn from their mistakes
>monsters exploit player weaknesses

y/n?
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>>162270518
anon do you want me to hold your hand or something
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>>162267865
Are demigods really supposed to be a challenge race? I find a demigod Ares to be really good for martial builds.
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>>162268359
If you are running such. I'd recommend also running Coffeebreak as well.

>>162270029
I know it is, but the thing is that I can't be arsed to go out my way to distribute things properly when I do mostly minute-changes. And I guess quite bit of people here don't have time/will to set up the git-repo themselves. It doesn't matter that much since I am only one maintaining it, too...

Of course, drawback is that the binaries distributed is debug-compile.
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>>162270518
Next you will ask us for the entire control scheme, huh?
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>>162270739
>I'd recommend also running Coffeebreak as well.
You know, that's actually a great idea.
>>
>rushing Oberon and the big J at level 1
>Becoming a noble sacrifice
y/n?
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>>162270623
>anon do you want me to hold your hand or something

yes
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>>162268359
>ironman_rooms
android berserker or bust
>>
>coffebreak forces ironman_down
No sir
I can't do this
>>162271393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D92Lyxj7U7Q

>>162271412
'droids level up slowly unless they find some really good shit and they usually find them only when they kill tough shit
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>>162270443

No. If anything, just dump your excess exp in stealth while rushing your spells. Higher max hp or defenses are only required if you let yourself get hit more than what's necessary which is a fault in itself for spellcasters of all kinds even if you don't die. Even in extended where enemies tend to spawn near you without warning, you just can't die even with piss poor defenses that'll make a FeBe cry because you already have a lot of offensive/defensive spells/items to deal with surprises assuming you didn't waste exp
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>>162271625
It is pseudo-ironman down. You can recall back, but going back forces you to deeper.
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>>162271625
ironman_rooms means they will find everything they need anon

>>162271802
how is that "pseudo" ironman
isn't that exactly how forced_descent works in vanilla?
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>>162271856
It is. In PCB however, recall doesn't work.
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>when you figure out macros after 20 hours of playing a character in PCB

Holy fuck, I could of saved thousands of keystrokes at this point.
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>>162267996
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Finally, from an *acquirement* that the angband:76 quest dropped.

Though I can't use three of the spells anyway, so it's kind of disappointing.
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>>162273030
The manual is your friend. It fights for KNOWLEDGE you nigger
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>>162273629
*naga
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I'm sure this guy is a chump.
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>>162274213
Three hits and you're knocked out, which equals "dead".
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>>162274260
Nonsense! Even the game says to go for it!
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>>162274260
haha my sorc yesterday died in one hit

apparently 2x 80d1 = 300
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>>162273331
foocubi*
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.
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can anyone loan me 100,000 gold
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>>162273629

reported for saying the racial slur in public
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>>162273030
>can't read
>could of
It checks out.

>>162274432
That's two hits. You mean one round? Mortal wounds do a LOT of damage per game turn.
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>>162274569
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>>162274417
Mortal Wounds are no joking matter!
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>>162274889
>cropping school dropout
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>>162274889

It's been a while.
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>>162274889
Ahh fuck, I just got shoahed.
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That's a lot of speed.

I would also like to point out that someone apparently thought identify and restore life would be useful in death book 4.
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>>162275192
I TOLD YOU
I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE STORMBRINGER BRO
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>>162274260
>tfw first time a grand master racks up enough stun to knock you out then you get ganked like a bitch
Felt bad man

>>162274569
>not having 400k gold in T3/4 spellbooks and misc armor, weapons and rings in your home
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Another artifact.
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>>162273629
Well if your so knowledgeable than why aren't you a stone of lore???
>>162274489
>you miss
fault
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the next /vg/ League match for /rlg/ is starting soon! After the current match (/xcg/ /domg/) ours will begin.
Find the hitbox here!
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

We are playing /fgg/ - Fighting Games General
If we lose we are probably ded, so come out and support the team lads
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>>162275863
THE WEARER OF SILK!
THE WEARER OF SILK!
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>>162275315
restore life is always slightly useful

it usually won't make a big difference but you might as well use it after fighting nether breathers and getting slightly drained

at the very least it's better than the heroism in Crusade 4 and Daemon 4
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>>162275454
im a level 15 quylthulg anon

i have 7000 gold to my name
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>>162276241
Heroism is at least rFear.

Polymorph vampire seems good, so I'm still going to carry it around, though the rest of the spells are worthless to mediocre.
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>>162251432
They're cha-based, but there's also a racial modifier. Basically the more uncivilized and evil your player race seems, more it will cost you. Bad news for liches and shadow dragons.
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>>162249634
If roguelike games could make money then they would be the most popular kind of game, since they are so easy to make.
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>>162277867
They're easy to make, they're hard to make good. See dredmor, dungeonmans
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>>162267865
Don't be a doofus, FREE stats, FREE racials, FREE human feats, and FULL slots make them excellent at nearly anything. Try playing an actual challenge setup, like a dragon or basically any non-meme spellcaster.
>>
Is Zot easier to do than Vaults:5?
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>>162276075
>this formation
Is this Championship Manager 2001/02 or what?
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>>162279039
Yes.
I cleared all of zot with a MuMo and splatted on V:$.
V:$ is fucking hell because it makes you realize how much you rely on stairs.
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>>162279039
If you know what all the monsters are and have 3 runes of XP, I would say yes

Whereas with Vaults:5 you can run into it while being 2-3 levels lower than you need to be and the shit there (A. Liches, Golden Dragons) can literally be as bad as Zot:5, barring orbs of fire and weird zot shit
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>>162279039
If you have a vampiric weapon or a method of smite targeting vault:5 is piss.

buff up, pop a magic mapping, stairdance the guards until a warden shows up, then book it to the nearest corridor an re-apply buffs as needed.
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>>162279039

No because you can't cBlink in Zot:5
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>>162279430
>stairdance the guards until a warden shows up
So, immediately?
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>>162279430
forgot to mention, that if you have smite targeted attacks, you can stairdance all day, smite stair deniers like wardens,monstrosities and dragons and rest up as needed.

This is how I cleared Vaults:5 in my Beogh win, his smiting ability is great. Portal projectile or Elyvilon's pacification can also work.
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WHAT KIND OF MONSTER REMOVES THE ABILITY TO USE STAIRS
I WAS SO CLOSE GODDAMNIT
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>>162279568
I think that's just a case of bad luck, I can stairdance the first few waves before the warden shows his face, which is when I run.

Obviously if the warden shows up early, locate the nearest corridor and maybe use blinking to reach it if you're surronded on all sides.
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>>162279682
A vault warden.
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>>162279839
more like FAULT WARDEN lmao
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>>162279913
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What's been your quickest DCSS win, turnwise? I've started playing a month ago and my fastest win has been 57k turns, 3 runes with DDFi.

I have no idea how 19k turns,15 runers do it.
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>speedrunning
>speedrunning a turn-based dungeon crawler
>speedrunning crawl

Go play dungeon sprint, fastgoer
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>>162274432
mortal wounds is an additional 100 hp per round
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>>162280183
You have to take a lot of risks and skip a lot of floors. My best is like 39k with a MiFi, which is still pretty bad.
>>162280380
>speedrunning a turn-based dungeon crawler
TURN COUNT SPEEDRUNS you jackanape.
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>>162280183
21k turns for 3 runes (MiFi), 55k turns for 15 runes (OgEE). I haven't really tried a turncount 15 rune win with a good combo like VS^Chei or DD^Makh but even if you're not particularly amazing, you should do sub 40k eventually.

>I have no idea how 19k turns,15 runers do it.
You do all Lair runes right after entering the Lair, then do Tomb + Vaults, then Pan + Abyss and Hell. Take either Chei for statue or Makhleb for HP regen on kills. Take DD for damage shaving or VS for antimagic + spirit shield. Rush down immediately and pray for good finds. In Hells take shafts and one way staircases just to get to the bottom. Teleport to get closer to runes. Abuse PoG and cBlink if you manage to get it. Tele/LRD skip most parts of Tomb. Zot cheese is mostly gone due to PoG not working there anymore. You also need a fuckton of luck with item and stair generation - dedicated speedrunners have typically <1% winrate - and good decision making.

t. guy who tried some speedruns but doesn't have the patience to not otab everything
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>>162280183
I have a 32k turn win with a DsHu of Jiyva and that wasn't a speed run, just diving and an EZ 3rd rune

1. Don't autoexplore completely, it will add thousands and thousands of turns looking at empty mini-corners in Lair. SImilarly, you can skip shit like Orc and you should never backtrack, so no 'stashing'

2. Related to 'don't autoexplore' is 'Dive'
99% of floor trash is trash and there's still more than enough XP to do what you need. Similarly, strong characters need less XP and can dive more.

3. 15-rune game mostly comes down to accepting the fact that you're not there to kill shit, you're there for RUNES LADDEH so just ninja them all

4. Resting takes a long time, so get regen and heal as you explore if it's safe

The truly amazin stuff starts getting autistic with Passage of Golubria spam
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>>162281381
BTW, that path is ideal and you'll likely not be able to do it - I've seen it done but Slime is usually out of the question. You can either come back for it or do it during the orb run. Also Tomb right after Vaults can be often a big waste of time, so you can consider doing it later too.
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>>162280183

All of them are either using scummy spells that were already removed like Phase Shift, Control Tele, Stoneskin or just using scummy melee which is Unarmed Combat+Statueform+Regeneration and resorts to scummy cBlink.

All of these should be removed. The only 1 (one) real speedrun at the top is unironically a MiBe from 4thArra which took 26000 turns and none of those scummy below 20k turncount speedruns

http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/4thArraOfDagon/morgue-4thArraOfDagon-20151127-131509.txt
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Is Akrasiac's score thing bugged? this guy
>1 1,859,332,704 edsrzf DsCj
is apparently first and he died on depths.
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>>162281676
I honestly wouldn't mind cBlink gone (maybe buff Disjunction a bit to compensate) and Statue could at the very least use that -10 EV it had a long time ago.
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>>162281914
Yes and nobody cares to correct it.
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>>162282117

That -10 EV is not even enough to nerf it. You are a statue, a slow moving robust statue that is capable of dodging properly? That doesn't even make any sense
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>>162281489
You forgot to mention the impressively retarded (but working) breadswinging, upgraded to scythe-/execaxe-/bardicheswinging if you find one. Bascially you wield a bread or a scroll or any other non weapon item and attack an empty space next to you multiple times. Each attack takes 1.5 aut but it's only 1 turn. Since regeneration is aut-, not turn-reliant, you regenerate faster at the same turn cost. If you have a heavy untrained weapon with a longer attack delay, it's even better. That's also why Chei is good for speedruns, you get Statue faster and you regen twice as fast as far as turncount is concerned.

Breadswinging might be removed soon though.
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Added a dumb visual option for displaying HP on character, sort of. 7 colours of pain, gray ( for dead ), dark red, red, orange, yellow, umber, white.
Personally just fond of such options.
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>>162280183

There was a Naga player here with a 48M score iirc. The premise is basically the same: Statueform+Regeneration+Naga speed = higher hp regen per 1 turn
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>>162282692
they nerfed breadwinging by removing the ability to wield bread
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>>162280183
Don't listen to these lies, the 0.19 tournament only had two 3-rune wins below 20k turns, both DD and the one at 13k turns was makh. But neither used spells so the level of autism is way lower compared to what some people are suggesting.

For 15-rune games, the fastest win was 27k turns doing VS^Chei, and this was with all of the bloat spells, regen+statueform, PoG-spamming, lesser beckoning + temporal distortion, passwall, blink, LRD autism tactics.

19k turn 15-rune wins are a meme.

If you want to start getting sub-50k turn wins, just play MiBe and don't use a stash, and berserk every fight without running. Once you get that down, do DD^Mak to cut out all the time spent resting and you'll benin the sub 30k turncount in no time.
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quylthulg dungeon boss strat:

-spam "summon giants" in an empty room
-dismiss all the ogres until you have an army consisting only of ACTUAL giants
-set them to search-and-destroy and hold down 5
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>>162283121
Not yet. You can still breadswing in trunk.
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>>162283036

Ooops, forgot the Naga "of Chei" (contributes a lot to additional hp regen per turn) and the fact that it was done during the tournament part.
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>>162283139

LRD and Blink/PoG could be excused since the former is spellpower based in order for it to be capable of destroying walls and even then, it still needs several tries while the latter is RNG-based which is perfectly fine.
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>>162279039
Zot is fucking easy as hell.

Just died on my first ascension attempt though :(
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>falchion of vamp and +4 INT
>mfw I'm a fucking cat and not even playing a roguelike
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>>162287454
w-what
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>>162287454

I wonder if we can shill the devil's team to remove felid's multiple lives in exchange for some additional apts. My body is ready for Crawl to be a real roguelike
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>>162287454
>falchion
youre one of those guys who wields a +2 artifact longsword over a +0 demon blade, aren't you

falchions are not good weapons anon
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What should I look for in a vehicle? Just raw storage space? Is a small engine still important for not summoning hordes of zombies? Facilities like a meth lab or a fridge?
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>>162290858
Undamaged engine and battery first and foremost.
Then you want something not overhuge so that it doesn't eat up all your fuel and crash into stuff.
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>>162290858
RVs are handy

you can stick some curtains up and you'll be able to hang out in the back without any vision in/out, meaning zombos won't see you
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>>162087840

D2 adder
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>>162290858
Something that works.

Or if you intend to make a mobile fortress, the biggest thing you can find to save time on placing frames.
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>>162087816
>Spawncamping
>Spaincamping
>Spain Camping
THE IMAGE IS PART OF THE CONSPIRACY.
WE HAVE TO FIND DICKS' ANCIENT TEMPLE, IT IS IN A CAMPING IN SPAIN.
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>>162292356
IS IT IN A PYRAMID INSIDE A CAMPING INSIDE SPAIN
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>>162087840
>What was the most glorious trainwreck of a splat you've had?

>fall into a pit
>immediately fall into another pit
>playing as a stupid non-fighter combo so every enemy I meet will be a major boss
>first thing I see is a howler monkey
>multiple out-of-depth enemies converge from all sides
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>>162249093

tummy pinching with consent is truly the lewdest thing in the world
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>>162289846
What apts though?

>>162087840
>Shaft myself to run from wizards
>3 shafts into D:9
>into the middle of a general fuckfest
>shaft again
>D:12
>Cyclops and more fuckery
>D:15
>Die from getting worn down from the earlier fuckers while shafting
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>>162249093
that looks like a pretty high tumcount to me
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>>162293175

It could be anything at this point as long as that dumb multiple lives gets removed. The added apts could either be a +1 conjurations or +0 fire+ice+air+earth or mediocre +2 fighting/+1 or +2 UC or even a mediocre +1 Spellcasting and +1 Invo.
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>>162087840
I had this great DgFi run, where I got HW wand and Tele wand and it all got ruined because I wielded a cursed staff of fire without any remove curse scrolls.

I was running around for 4-5 floors with the entire floor after me until I eventually splat.

This was also after my 2nd win, so it ruined any chances of streak.
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>>162294031
>all species should just be humans with a variation of apts and stats

Go away, Linley.
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First time playing poscheng, started as Sorcerer because I sure love making bad decisions. When it comes to raising stats, what's most advisable? Just pump up that Chr, get as much Con as possible to offset being wet paper, some Str to carry that entire fucking library, or what?
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>>162294031
Add 2 boot slots a hat slot extra luck and passive ally-making (You give the troll kitty cat eyes! The troll is smitten!)
Changing the apts and stripping the lives isn't that much better than a dumb gimmick
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>>162294410

As ugly as it looks like, it is actually tons of times better than a "very unique" game """"""design"""""" that includes multiple lives. This should be common knowledge but it seems that you don't share this sentiment at all roguelite player.
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>>162294569
By the endgame you will max out with the pots. Now pick what you need, not what you will need.
>>
Real roguelike shitposting is the worst kind of shitposting.

Pedos are totally unrelated to roguelikes, but they only post 1-2 images and go back to fapping to little girls.
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>>162295139
Fair enough. Will do. Thanks.
>>
>play quylthulg
>mashing . while my army of arch-viles kill a big pile of mad bears
>hidden somewhere among the blob of black qs is a black p

>The Black knight points at you, incanting terribly! x3
>What a noble sacrifice!

tabbitis is a terrifying disease
>>
>>162295057
Except you're obviously just mad that extra lives goes against the stagnant roguelike philosophy, even though everyone (except you) recognizes that cats are a limited subversion of permadeath.
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>>162295278
Play trump wizard instead, so that you can do something when your minions fight. For example, sucking off rods for mana and blasting.
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>>162295331

>permadeath is a stagnant roguelike philosophy

There he goes again, the roguelite shitposter is trying to justify his shitter savescumming beliefs. I strongly suggest going back to >>>/v/
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>play human assassin
>miss 5 attacks in a row against goblin on D1 and die

Why do they even allow you to start as a stabber with no spells? It's completely worthless.
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>>162295657
Don't forget, any species or deity that provides abilities breaks the rule of non-modality, and you are obligated as a Real Rogueliker to avoid these menu-oriented features.
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>>162295782
Assassins aren't stabbers. They're fighters with blowguns. By not using your special weapon against enemies who belong to a superior race, you are playing incorrectly and should expect to lose.
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>>162295331
they aren't a fucking subversion of permadeath you retard
you still permanently lose all your progress when you run out of lives, which are available in finite supply
the important part of permadeath is that once you lose you go back to square 1
it doesn't matter whether "lose" means "run out of hp" or "run out of lives" or "have your chess piece captured" or "leave the dungeon without the Amulet".
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>>162295782
Assasins seems to be a start hat eventually becomes melee with needle backup, rather than a proper stabber.
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>>162296008
>goblin
>superior race
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>>162296109
>eventually
they are IMMEDIATELY melee with needle backup
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>>162296008

But there is only one race, the human race.
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>>162296109
There is no such thing as stabbers in DCSS. Since spotting is completely random, all characters 100% need a way to overcome or avoid enemies when they wake up. Stealth is just a way to choose your battles by letting Sigmund sleep until you either level up or forget about him.
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You can say the Monk experience in Poschengbang is pretty nuts.
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How are tanari'i in PCB?

Am I going to run into the same corpse problem that balrogs do?
>>
>>162233834
I like this picture
>>
How many Crawl wins have you bois got? Currently have 3, but they've all been vampiric axe tabbers.
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>>162296752
i think demons all have that same problem

Elliptic just posted a win on oook.cz as a Tanari'i -- their final form is a six-armed Marilith
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>>162296810
Around 50.

I'm haven't enjoyed the game since win #2.
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>>162296810
3 and then i stopped playing

poschengband 4lyfe
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>>162296990
Why do you not enjoy it,anon? Not much stuff to do after 50 wins?
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>>162296752
>corpse problem
Just pick up all the p and h corpses (there's a lot), it's not like you'll starve unless you do something stupid like enter the wilderness with no food.

Main thing to watch out for is that your slots will change drastically at level 40, so it might be hard to keep your resists and speed.
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Cheeky yeekies!
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I pulled in yig and tsathoggua with trump monsters, who then proceeded to the fill the room with so much junk that the shub-niggurath never managed to summon anything more than a marilith.

I guess trump casters are the one type of character that want some uniques alive?
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>>162300001
oh fuck, niglets
>>
>beehive gens in D:8
>immediately swarmed by 8 berserk bees and gangbanged until I can tele out with less than 50% hp
>could have been extra fucked by a bad landing spot or double poison
Justify this
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>>162293175
+8 hexes
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>>162305489
>randomly shafted for 3 floors and get fucking Death Knighted in 3 hits
FUCKING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>162305489
If you don't want to face that risk with your escape tactic then you should use a different escape tactic.
>>
>>162305489

It takes 8 turns for a queen to berserk 8 of her freexps. You have all the time in the world to steer clear. It is always your FAULT
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>>162300001
>YEEKD.COM
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>>162305489
post ttyrec
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>>162305489
>attacked by enemies
>take damage
justify this
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should i wait or go right into earth magic?
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>>162307634
post your skills
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>>162307797
train dodging, stealth and invo
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How do I not run out of ammo when doing archery in DCSS? Just had a good run end because of it. I was on floor 4(I'm a noob)
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>>162308356
Use ammo sparingly until you get to late lair (train a melee weapon for popcorn), by then you should have enough to constantly spam it
>>
>three fucking player ghosts on L:2
WHAT
THE FUCK
>>
>>162308356
You don't do just archery. Usually you use a low skill investment weapon for small things and save ranged stuff for big threats to your @. Ogres are a good choice for using ammo on early.

It'd also help if you explain how you died.
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>>162308547
As an addition stealth works really well as something to invest in since you want to be able to pick and choose your engagements early on.
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>>162308862
Stealth is a noob trap.

When in doubt, quaff zerk and tab.
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>>162309385
"stabbers" are a noob trap

stealth is extremely good - with high stealth you can pick your encounters and monsters forget about you very quickly
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>>162308476

>for popcorn
what does this mean? crappy mobs?

>>162308547
I died because I ran out of ammo while fighting some low level shaman and I couldn't get any good melee hits on him. If I had ammo I would have killed him in 2 or 3 shots probably

>>162308862
>pick and choose your engagements early on

Don't I just want to kill everything to level up as much as possible?
>>
slouch will really fuck up things that are hasted or berserked right
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>>162309773
>what does this mean? crappy mobs?
yeah. just put 4 points into short swords or something

>Don't I just want to kill everything to level up as much as possible?
you want the option to engage the d:3 ogre and commit if you're ready, not be forced to
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>>162309871
The bigger the difference between your movespeed and theirs, the higher the damage, so haste and slow both count.

Pretty sure it's possible to one-shot Gloorx Vloq.
>>
Justify this
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>>162258535
C'mon... it's obvious.
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>>162310180
is this d:1 or are you on an upstair? there are 3 stairs on each floor, try the other floors
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>all those high level uniques still left
>literally developing a nervous tic from getting this far in PCB already

oh my GOD you guys the stress is TOO MUCH
>>
FIRST FOR CHEI
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>>162311331

>statue form
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>>162311457
>berserk orb of fire
the lies
THE LIESSS
fucking weak ass reddit
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>>162311457

fake and gay
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new

>>162311971
>>162311971
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