/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dead General

uhhhh im never make game and no much programing knowledge but which graphical libraby lets me stay away from driverstuff??

should be
>if you can't do art for it give up edition

where are the anime games with cute anime girls

>>162077362
why would we put lies into OP

>>162077396
We have anime games?

>>162077814
that one horror black/white game is pretty anime

>>162077880
its more manga than anime

>>162078156

reminder C++ is not a scripting language

>>162077167
Thanks for making an early thread and filling it with stupid shit!

>>162078259
To be fair, Python's whitespaces requirements should be used even in languages that don't require it as just standard good coding/readability practices. If white space messes you up when programming in python, you're probably missing some basic concepts about programming

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>>162078528

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Bump maps make me moist.

>>162078714
Tabbing in when you definite the body of a function/class/loop

space in before and after functions

don't miss tabs and spaces

All of these are good coding practices

>>162078259
You have to think in python, which usually involves an admixture of alcohol and amphetamines keeping you functional while you jam other assholes' shit together into something resembling a finished product at 3 in the morning. It comes from a time and a world where the alternative was perl.

>>162079023
>girl explodes
YOU MONSTER

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>>162077947
>>162077880
t-thanks

>repostan the new uniformed look of the event and combat cards
I may redo the ally cards next, any ideas for unique followers?

How the FUCK does stat balance work in RPGs?
Like
>attack power
>attack stat
>weapon attack stat
>enemy defense stat
>enemy equipment defense stat
How do you put them all together to get the final damage dealt to the enemy?

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Phew. Finally done with Iyu's set and it looks like it's working well in-game. Looks like I can move on to the other facesets now.

>>162079357
Looking good, anon. Ideas for followers: kid bully, fanboy/fangirl, private detective, ex-soldier, veteran nurse, occultist librarian, serial killer

>>162078259
Python is actually pretty intuitive. It "effectively" has only two base types - strings and numbers. When you try to add strings and numbers you will obviously get errors. But when it concerns numbers, it doesn't really matter if they are integers or floats. You can add, substract, multiply and divide variables as long as they are not strings. And the code, in most cases, doesn't require specific input types. And if it does, it is incredibly easy to convert types with built-in functions.

>>162078714
>he doesn't use tabs in his code
holy fuck, I'm glad I'll never have to work with your code.

>>162079550
Yeah but where's the game? Did you ever post anything about it apart from these portraits?

>>162079384
You create a damage struct which is just an Enumerator and a float/int.

When you do damage you send an array of damage structs the enemy.

The enemy sends the array to his equipment which then subtracts the damage, returning the array you send with the adjusted damage values.

Then you send the adjusted damage values to your "skills and stats" which includes buffs, built in racial bonuses, or anything else.

After that it returns the final damage values and you subtract that from your health.

It should be noted that most of the time you want to send it to skills and stats before equipment, but it's whatever really

>>162078345
another reminder that C++ is not a game development language
only use C++ if your intention is to never make a game and to make a graphics framework instead

>>162079675
>another reminder that C++ is not a game development language
>most used game development language

Huh

>>162079023
Aye good to see you back. It's hilarious how she panics when she falls.

>>162079774
>another reminder that C++ is not a game development language
>most used game development language
>Huh

I think that the most used development language today is UE4 blueprints or Unity C#, pal

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>>162079641
Game just looks like it did in the old version right now, minus this new set of portrait art. I'm polishing up a finished game that I made a year nad a half ago; most of my work here is going to be additions in areas and tightening of some art assets and dialogue/writing/puzzles.

>>162080020
You'd be wrong.

>>162080083
so its a visual novel?

>>162080083
I see. I don't remember seeing this at all, I guess that's because I started coming here about a year ago.

>>162080178
It's an adventure game, yeah. VN's not too off.

>>162080202
That's alright. It wasn't a super popular game even then; didn't get much attention back then either.

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>>162077167
>DarkBASIC Professional

ag-ee dag-ee or aj-ee daj-ee

>>162080454
Not game development releated

>>162080084
how so?

what would my gf think

>>162080404
is every new thread a "new engine" now?

>>162080884
I sure as hell know what mine would think....

FUCK OFF i'm not your girlfriend, I already told you a billion times that I like girls

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>>162079550
What started as a private detective became a fashion blogger

>>162081761
no, just the threads with this thing in the op pic apparently

>>162081761
its not like UE and Unity are the only engines out there

>>162082549
That's an upgrade in my book.

>>162079023
almost thought this was bokube

>>162082430
Thats fair I suppose.

I am currently programming in BCPL for work. Talk about constraints, sheesh.

>>162083004
would you mind describing what's it like to program in BCPL
for example, lets use C++ as comparison

There doesn't seem to be much about it in the google.

>gaffer on games is down
f

>>162083421
I would say its close to assembly but with some snippets of convenience. Bit more rustic than C, yet I prefer it to C for some reason. Haven't done much C++ to be honest.

I come from doing primarily A LOT of PHP and web language things for 2 years before walking into this, I also don't have any 'software developer' but would say im very capable and a quick learner. Its challenging to come up with some solutions which is most of the fun.

>>162084078
and what is your game written in?

>>162084078
Also as for variables, they are 24bit words iirc? No arrays or anything like that.

>>162084280
JavaScript

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How is your progress, anons?

I've just finished writing shader for snow displacement, that is centered around player character and supports multiple trail "casters". Now I need to make it work for actual terrain, but that shouldn't be too hard.

Why is finding game development partners so difficult.

I haven't made a post explicitly looking for partners, but I answer those who are looking for teams. 7 people now I've messaged. All of them interested, none of them are good at programming.

First year college student, IT sys admin who doesn't understand why you would use enums, and more shenanigans.

>>162082892
It's from the same guy actually.

>tfw doing horror game
>tfw thinking through what makes a good horror game

Honestly the only thing I've come up with are:
>oppressive darkness
limiting the player's access to light to a point that you force them often to navigate by sound alone
>limiting choice
forcing a player to continue on, and when they double back realizing its not an option is scary
>controlling noise levels
I always fine quiet is much scarier than screamers. A distant soft sob is scarier than a sudden loud noise.
>limiting information
Knowing everything takes away the horror a lot of the time.

Honestly the idea for what to do is something I thought about while in bed.

Something else I find that limits horror games in the modern setting and modern access to information and the amount of humanity that is around constantly to interact with.

Shit man I don't know. Right now I am just modeling a giant stone cube and realizing I actually have to practice my human modeling because I'm still awful that that.

>>162084372
Wow man, that looks baller. Shaders are magic.

>>162084390
Please. I want 7 stories.

Also why you no recruiter like? With pre-interview questioners and tests and stuff for the bantz.

I want a go if you do make one

Hey AGDG,

Do you have a dirty secret?

>>162084790
Add some weeping angels, they're all the meme at the moment

>>162084390
>tfw only good at programming/music
>can't art for shit

>>162084895
Nobody cares. Shut up or post progress.

>>162084895
Plenty

>>162084895
I love my game

>>162084902
I really think that they are a cheap thrill.

Things moving while you can't see them are scary. What I think is actually worse is things DOING something while you can't see them, or only seeing them out of the corner of your eye. It's much more insidious thinking that what ever is near you has a plan beyond you, or even that you're insignificant to what it is doing. A force of nature sort of thing where it acts and you are just happen to be caught up in it.

The Angels are too focused on you the individual, and not the overall narrative.

>>162078824
pretty

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>>162084372
Going alright. Definitely going to have to make new BGs for the game though in these dialogue sections. Really washes out the art in the present darker state. Also, need to hook up all the new art to the emotions as well.

>write function that substracts given number
>works fine with numbers like 1, 2, 0.5, 0.1
>but does nothing with numbers like 0.001, 0.0005
am i getting fucked by the floating point precision ?

What the fuck. It's in unity and i do is basically this

SomeNumber -= MyNumber

so there is no room for it to be my screw up... i tracked it down to any number smaller than 0.004 won't substract anything and any number >= 0.004 will work perfectly fine

Have you made your own gamedev tools? Tell me about them.

>>162085568
I am your mother so yes, I made a tool that gamedevs (you).

>>162085537
How big is SomeNumber?

>>162086202
100000

>>162086370
Yep, definitely a floating-point precision issue.

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>>162085568
I made this simple tool for designing dialog trees for my game, since doing it manually in a text file was maddening

>>162086370
Move to doubles

>>162086575
what'd you make the tool in?

>>162086851
javascript + html + css

How do I operate arrays/lists in Game Maker?
For example: I put an object into list and now I want to use object's data, in case of Lua it would be just putting a table inside table.
In Game Maker it's apparently possible by just marking and position in list as list, but documentation says it's used for json_encode...

Or maybe I'm just overthinking it?

>>162086735
Don't tell me a number that small would warrant doubles

>>162086575
>not using coroutines

>>162087185
A 32-bit floating-point number has between 7 and 8 decimals of precision. The difference in magnitude between 100000 and 0.004 is a little more than that.

>>162087185
It would get rid of your issue

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If you wanted your character to toss his sword in the air and catch it wouldn't it be easier to have an unskinned bone in the actual character model and animate it there? I say unskinned so the sword can be swapped out. If you give the sword its own animation you will have to make sure it lines up with the character animation in Unity/UE4 and that sounds disgusting. Does this make sense to anyone? What is standard?

>>162087332
>A 32-bit floating-point number has between 7 and 8 decimals of precision. The difference in magnitude between 100000 and 0.004 is a little more than that.
I don't understand, i only use 3 tenth places in 0.004 so i still have 4 left over as a reserve

>>162087553
The result you expect is 99999.996 (disregarding that neither 100000 nor 0.004 can be exactly represented in the first place), which needs to be rounded off. You just end up with 100000 again.

>>162084372
Cool. Like Journey but with snow

>>162087748
oooohhh i get it now, i thought the floating point only counts for the part of the number after the period so unless you have more than 7 numbers after the period it won't matter. Well fuck me. I will now have to change 90% of numbers i'm using in my game from floats to doubles because everything i knew about the floating point is fucking wrong

>>162085537
the real solution would be to not use such small numbers with such big numbers

I know its sound shitty but you can't expect precision with floating point at those magnitudes, especially when you mix them

what are you doing that requires those numbers, I'm curious now

>>162088051
Yeah I was gonna mention this. It is abnormal to need high precision with extremely large values. You probably need to rethink whatever it is you are trying to do.

>>162088051
the player has a jetpack which has 100k units of fuel and when he is moving 0.001 of fuel is substracted during each fixed frame (60 of them per second) that way the value goes down nice and smoothly

>>162088051
>the real solution would be to not use such small numbers with such big numbers
Wrong, he can use doubles and, if absolutely necessary, even more than that (fixed point, integer and double together, etc.).

Saying "no ur doing wrong thing" as if 32-bit floats are literally the only way to make a game is unhelpful.

>>162087550
Yeah make an empty bone and animate it in blender.
Are you making an action RPG inspired by the Tales series too?

>>162088289
Maybe store the fuel amount as an integer, since you're subtracting a fixed amount? Your jetpack would have 100m units of fuel and you would subtract 1 unit of fuel each frame. If you want to display it to the player on a 100k scale you can just divide the value

>>162088340
no more like zelda 2. I was just thinking of different sword animations and one of lloyd's winning poses came to mind.

>>162088289
ints might be better for that, since you can go up to like 2 billion signed and 4 billion unsigned

subtract 1 from that each frame and you have enough jetpack for enough seconds to make someone starve to death holding down the jetpack button

that also means that you have more fuel units than pixels you could possibly display on a screen, so any fuel bar would be as smooth as you can get

> Just posted my project to reddit looking for a partner

>person messages me immediately
>I'm only in high school, but i've been teaching myself c# for the past 4 months and I think i've done really well

Plz hold me

>>162088512
that won't work since the consumption value varies in a curve so it will never be an integer
>>162087379
holy tits, it worked! it works perfectly even with tiiiiny numbers now.
is this a concrete fix? As in no matter what size the numbers are it will always be 100% precise?

>>162087550
I don't' think it really matters senpai. If your weapons are going to end up being skinned meshes (like they have their own animations) then I would do it there but if they'll be static then I would do it on the player.

No sense adding to the render overhead if you don't have to.

>>162088794
that's your average game dev. have you looked at the Unity forums?

>>162088794
Is it a girl?

>>162088794
I always feel bad when that kind of shit happens. Like, I don't want to hurt some kid's feelings but I also don't want to work with a teenager I don't know who is just learning to program and will drop the project halfway through anyway.

>>162088845
>is this a concrete fix? As in no matter what size the numbers are it will always be 100% precise?
No, but doubles have ~16 decimal places of precision as opposed to ~7.

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>tying gameplay logic to framerate

>>162088794
If you want folks who know their stuff, you're better off going where folks in the industry/indie scene are going.

Maybe try out Unity Connect for instance. https://connect.unity.com/jobs

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>>162087550
See >>162088340
It's just easier to have the weapons as bones. You can even add shapes to them in Blender so it makes things even more easier.

>>162088992
Shit. Is there any format then that will give me huge precision like say 100 places? That would be enough to never even come close to that limit

>>162088794
what game?

>>162088310
that kind of precision is only needed for scientific stuff, and they have 128 bit floats, double point precision kills performance

but my point if you are struggling with precision in game mechanics, you might need to look at your application and see if it actually warrants those.

>>162088845
remember that 0.001 times 1000 is 1, so you can do all your calculations in integer space and have all the curve equation precision you need without using floats
doubles are just 64-bit floats, I really want to stress that your application doesn't need doubles and you should avoid them.

but its up to you, a screenshot of your code using doubles might be worthy of the CS degree meme, no offense

>>162088794
I don't know what you're expecting to find anon. Pros are only going to do it for money and the amateurs who don't already have their own games are too inexperienced to really work well in a team.

I went through a pretty long phase of inexperienced (and useless) partners before deciding to just 1ma.

>>162088845
Pretty much it should be fine, glad to see it worked well for you!

>>162088859
I know, but I even put it in my post I don't want beginners!

>>162088897
didn't say

>>162089057
I'll check it out, I can't really afford to pay people which Unity Connect seems to be focused on. I want a partner.

>>162089207
!ASchoolShooter

>>162089308
You're probably right and I'll just have to suck it up

>>162089364
There are a couple unpaid partner positions up on Connect. I immediately skip them of course because I've got rent to pay -- but they're up there.

When is that girl (?) who plays our Jam games going to make a vid for Dino Jam?

>>162089249
It's funny though, i have been hobby game deving for almost 3 years and never once before i ran into this issue so i never actually researched this floating point topic in any depth, even though it's hilariously important and affects everything

>>162089192
A fixed-point representation (i.e. using integers and saying the result is a function of that integer, usually dividing by some constant) will get you a given absolute precision for a given range (at a certain cost of number of machine integers required to represent it).

>still no ue4.14.1

Are they going to leave it broken until the new year?

>>162089750
here's something neat and visual for float isues in a game engine

https://youtu.be/9hdFG2GcNuA

>>162089364
Post the reddit thread, I'll take a look at your project; been looking to collab on something interesting, not sure if my time commitment would be enough (probably ~15 every week +/-)

Is it Unity's fault by using their shitty FX framework with Cg that so many people in AGDG think shaders are voodoo magic?

>>162089926
STOP

>>162089728
>>162089868
>>162090301
Can you stop fucking trying to derail the thread?

>>162090425
Can you?

>>162089728
What girl? Post videos?

>inb4 rotate

>>162090258
https://www.reddit.com/r/gameDevClassifieds/comments/5h21nn/revshare_looking_for_programming_partner_for/

Sure, if you're interested just PM me on there

>>162090425
>2/3 of those posts were about game development

fuck off mothdan

>>162090510
Nah some youtuber that does let's play videos of jam games, she(?) has done some for Halloween Jam, Waifu Jam, Space Jam and some others. I'll look for the name.

I say girl because the voice sounds girly, might be a faggy boy though. But not Rotate.

>>162090301
No shaders are not easy and different from other programming, a skill of its own. The only thing we can "blame" on Unity is the asset store really

if I have a four-player 2D game based on a non-deterministic physics engine where one player is the host and the other three are clients, what is the best way to keep all of them in sync to the extent that the game is properly playable?

also, what is standard procedure for referencing objects on a client's side? Like, locally I can get an actual reference to the object in memory, so what do I do for clients? Give all of their shit UUIDs and shove that into a big dictionary or something?

obviously I'm a newbie and I don't know what I'm doing, appreciate any advice, thanks senpaitachi

>>162090510
https://www.youtube.com/user/JupCraftGaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBsEIU_9cKU

>>162090893
I should note that even though it's nondeterministic, simulation on the clients is 1:1 with the server in nearly 100% of all situations--there are only a few exceptions that I'd need to concern myself with

I assume the best way to do this is to send only updates on object position and vectors and such and let the clients simulate and then do a full authoritative sync at interval but idk

>>162090742
>No shaders are not easy and different from other programming, a skill of its own.
I disagree. The only big difference is that you're generally doing things with more math involved, but not always, and shaders are written for a different kind of processor in mind (e.g. avoiding divergent branching).

Something like >>162084372 is not "magic", it is very straightforward.

>>162091056
>72 views

poor girl

>>162091198
I admire that she (?) isn't doing it for views at least.

>its a "danny shitposts like usual, get caught, then replies with a shitpost to make it look like it wasnt him, as if his reputation matters" episode
Sick of this rerun desu

>>162090554
Literally 0 of this seems thought out, now I know why kids in highschool are applying. Give more details, design doc, examples of your past work (you call for someone not new, but you look new yourself). What is the game even programmed in? Game Maker it looks like?

>>162091056
I know I shouldn't have expected anything different, but Jeez, her voice is stereotypically 'nerdy nasal'. Sounds like she has a constant cold.

>>162091314
>>162091198

http://www.jupiterhadley.com/about-me/

My boner is dead forever

>>162091582
Game engine in title but I'll put more details, but I could put more work into it

>>162091739
Shit anon why

Why did you have to post that

>>162091739
she's no looker but her profile text doesn't say anything bad at all?

>>162091739
Great, now I feel bad.

>arrow keys

Well, not that bad.

Does she frequent the thread?

>>162091119
>>162090893
Anyone?

>>162092330
It is pretty foolish to mock someone who's willing and able to give critique and plays to games in these gamejams -- for free and not even for views.

Maybe they enjoy shooting themselves in the foot, I dunno.

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>still no link to the previous thread in the op

To the guy making the RF clone with the programmer art girl model, hoe are you making the knockback effect?

>>162092672
link to the archive is fully enough

>>162092801
>>162033560

I wish I could show you guys my progress

>>162092806
Yeah, especially when there's 3 new thread at once and all of them is archived, and when the site is simply down for weeks.

>>162092801
With simple maths :
- Get vector direction between player and enemies OR impact direction if you have that
- Normalize it
- Add to it your predefined knockback direction
- Apply result to enemy velocity

>>162093398
it's a nonissue since you can just look it up in the local 4chan archive if it's down and few clicks more won't hurt you - established generals are easy to identify

>>162093593
Thanks, I was thinking of doing something like that but I wanted to know if it was the best way.

>>162093874
Simple way? Probably not.
Parameter-able way? Definitely.

I kind of laughed at my post. It's funny to see how it totally got shadowed by the next post with the dino girl, >10 replies

>>162094525
I already am.

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Unreal or Unity for a game with this art style? Unreal feels like it'd be more for "realistic" graphics games, but idk

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>Took a class last year in college called Art of the Game for fun
>supposed to introduce basic engines, modelling and design
>ends up being about nothing but interactive stories, we get taught no technical skills, the final project is in fucking Twine
>Even then some classmates couldn't figure out how the fuck to work it

Fast forward to this year
>college is a research university
>Apparently there was some grant for exploring VR and Augmented Reality
>Two classmates from this class got the grant, despite having only basic coding experinece and no art skills
>They now have $20,000 to buy equipment and produce a game
>They're decided to make a game where you have to defend a real room from AR raccoons
>Ask them how they're going to model the raccoons
>"Part of the budget is to hire someone to teach us"

I can't believe I missed this opportunity and these retards lapped it up. Even their twine stories were MS Paint tier garbage

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>>162094656
Either would work fine. It's going to come down to your ability to make shaders though.

pic related is a UE4 game

>>162088289
>the player has a jetpack which has 100k units of fuel and when he is moving 0.001 of fuel is substracted during each fixed frame (60 of them per second)
his jetpack has 19 days and 7 hours worth of fuel then
that's a big jetpack

>>162094656
UE4 has a better shader system, making it better for any theme

>>162091739
she seems nice

she belongs here

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>>162094889
Yeah that's what I was worried about with Unreal, it has that weird sheen to it in pretty much every game that even appears in Cartoony games. Pic related is the bright kind of style I want (obviously not going to be as good, I'm not delusional). Would Unity be better then?

>>162091582
Updated the post to provide a bit more information, actually have a pretty good develop get interested which is nice.

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Jesus Christ, I hate 3D

>>162095309
The stupid shiposter always has been driving with direct or indirect attacks the girls of agdg.

* With leto he kept on calling her game stupid, made fun of her degree and was basically calling her a man with a big forehead
* With sugar he was just constantly trying to bring whatever personal info she'd share on tumblr, and instantly shitpost about her agdg-tan each time she is mentioned
* With jupi you've already nailed it.

>>162095401
What you need to understand is that you'll be writing the shaders by hand anyways and so in general what it looks like is going to have little to do with either engine. Though UE4 will be able to handle more stuff, and supposedly is better for writing shaders (I can believe that, Unity's system is an outdated, horrible mess).

well, it turns out that "Quaternion.RotateTowards" exists and I've been wasting a lot of time.

Anyways, now I know it.

>>162095335
I think the problem with UE4 is that it's better for bigger, professional teams.

It has a lot of tools that are amazing, like the material editor. But you have to learn so many little tools / ways of doing things.
If one guy only needs to deal with one of those things, then it's wonderful, but for a 1MA it will take a looong time to figure out all that stuff, compared with unity.

I hate unity for some reason, but I can't make even 1/10th of the progress in UE4, and I've used UE3 for 3 years (in a team)

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I'm going fucking nuts. How do I set a goddamn global var in GMS?

This is what I'm doing:

>"init" object Create event:
global.grav = 7

> "player" object Create event:
fallspeed = global.grav * mass

> "player" object Step event:
if (vsp < fallspeed) vsp += global.grav;
This is the error I get:


FATAL ERROR in
action number 1
of Create Event
for object obj_player:

global variable <unknown built-in variable>(-1610512736, -2147483648) not set before reading it.
at gml_Object_obj_player_CreateEvent_1 (line 7) - fallspeed = global.grav * mass;

Also, can I use code tags in this board?

>>162095401
Guilty Gear Xrd is Unreal 4, and it looks amazing.

There is a GDC talk on how they achieved the effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E

If this sounds too hard, give up and scale down your game ideas for now

>>162095910
You need to make sure "init" is created before "player".

>>162095910
>code tags
>in a gamedev general
git de fuck oudda'ere
Use pastebin.

>>162095661
Not having to learn a tool in Unity because it is devoid of said tool doesn't sound like an advantage.

>>162095661
>If one guy only needs to deal with one of those things, then it's wonderful, but for a 1MA it will take a looong time to figure out all that stuff, compared with unity.

Here's the thing though: the basics are really quick and easy to understand. Like for ue4's material editor you could easily just plop in your diffuse, roughness and normal map and get the exact same results as in unity. You don't need to touch any of the other nodes if you don't want to.

But for the people who do want to go above and beyond you can use that same editor for the more advanced techniques whereas Unity requires you to learn a shader language to even begin customizing their default pbr master material.

>>162096017
How do I make sure that happens? I've already tried Create, Game start and Room start events.

Alternatively, can I create the global vars in an independent script loaded at game start or something?

>>162096081
Would be pretty handy tbqhwyf.

>>162095910
Is the init object a different object than player? Are you sure that it gets calls first? From your error log it seems that the player create event is called first.

And are you sure that it's the proper way to set a global variable?

>>162095910
https://www.google.com/search?q=game+maker+global+variables&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Are you seriously telling me you couldn't answer your question with the information contained within the first page of that search? Lazy asshole.

>>162096089
I know, that's what I thought after writing my wall of text.
I dunno lol

>>162096181
I did check about half a dozen different sources and they all did it the same way, as I did it. I think this >>162096180 is the problem I'm having, but I don't know how to manage object load order.

>want to make a visual novel because they're art focused and ezpz programming
>can't write or come up with ideas for shit

writers have it so easy

>>162091582
>>162090554

All I've seen is the updated post, but it seems pretty normally for the type of posts on that sub, no? I mean there are paid position that look worse

>>162096372
>but I don't know how to manage object load order.
https://docs.yoyogames.com/source/dadiospice/000_using%20gamemaker/rooms/settings%20tab.html

>>162091739
She reviews /agdg/ stuff which is good for feedback so I don't see any problem.

>>162090893
>>162091119
>simulation on the clients is 1:1 with the server in nearly 100% of all situations
in first second it's nearly 100%
in the next few seconds the compatibility rapidly decreases, after a minute (probably even shorter) all clients would have desynchronized for sure

depending what are you writing the game in, the implementations may vary

you probably need to synchronize position, angle, linear/angular velocity every few frames

let's assume all your objects in the client have unique cID (that is, same object can have different cID in different clients, but all objects in a single client have unique cID), and all the objects in the server have unique sID

when server creates new object, it should send packet to all clients - packet should contain at least type of object, its initial state, and the sID associated with it
when a client receives this packet, it should create an entry to the map (that is, a dictionary, as you said - associative arrays are good for this, but depending on how you write your sID, you can also create an array with indices corresponding to sID), where key = sID, and value = cID corresponding to the newly created object (good in GameMaker, since you can't store references to instances in a variable), or just a reference to that object (if the language is any good - note that in this case you don't really need cID at all)

when server manipulates an object with a given sID, it should send packet to every client - packet should contain sID and all the necessary information (for example, for a procedure which synchronizes client's object position with server's, it should contain the server object's position)
when
when a client receives this packet, it should search for an entry in map with key = sID, and performs operations on the object indicated by the value corresponding to that key, and based on the information sent by server in the packet

that's the basis i think, the rest of functionality should follow from the above

>>162096846
like you?

How does one get to vidya art and animation? I guess it depends on the game what it requires but I honestly dont even know what something like a 2D platformer would need. Spritesheets or some shit?

>>162096846
what the everlasting fuck are you talking about?

>>162090893
Any particular reason you want client-server over P2P? The latter would simplify things a lot.

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>>162096625
That did the trick. Thanks for the help. Feel pretty dumb now.

>>162097030
Nobody can answer what you need for you; it's your game. You use placeholders while implementing mechanics and then you will know what you need.

>>162091582
>What is the game even programmed in? Game Maker it looks like?
>its in the title

arent you getting a little agressive now? you used to just post "wheres ur game :V" not youre going out of your way

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is this a good time to cash in on the hype for TLOU2?

>>162097583
wait for the first real trailer

>>162097583
cash in how? make an indie version of a hollywood movie that may have passable gameplay attached to it?

>>162097583
>>/biz/

>>162097548
Funny enough that's the first thought I had when he responded, since I didn't expect the 180 from interest to seeming angry/condescending, but I still the post is too legible for it to be the shit poster.

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>>162095912
>I don't remember sugar
Sugar was the big titties girl dev one making the game with diabete-chan. Don't know what happened to her though.
>can you imagine having an oppai artist gf?

I love how game maker fags are still trying to say that metal gear was made on GM.

No faggot, it was made on Unity.

>>162097302
Sorry I called you a lazy asshole. Keep on learnin.

>>162096975
character limit

iirc, unity has some system in place where you needn't to worry about this all, since it has remote procedure calls - this means that you can call any procedure you want (provided it is allowed to be called remotely) on all connected machines
unity makes sure that all objects in the client are internally linked to their counterparts in the server
for example, if you want to synchronize position between server and clients, you do something like
change_position(object)
synchro_position_rpc(object)
on server, and all clients will perform the procedure synchro_position_rpc(object) [I DON'T KNOW EXACT SYNTAX, i don't use unity]

also, godot will have remote procedure call system for the version 3.0 release too, so there's that

>>162097768
make a zombie game and sit on it until a couple weeks before the release of TLOU2

gives me probably a 1-1.5 years to finish it.

>>162097856
yeah and Ocarina of Time was made in Ogre3D

>>162097856
Bait harder

>>162097962
>20 FPS
No wonder.

>>162097484
Fair enough. Was mainly asking it for the possibility that I could began offering my services to devs who need artshit. And I could help out the people faster and right away if I had the basic grasp on how to do it before even joining any projects. As in they dont have to wait while I learn an entirely new technology or such.

>>162084372
c-can you show how this is done?

>>162098026
do you have an example of your work?

>>162098026
Then it doesn't matter, just make whatever you want, particularly animated pieces.

>>162098026
>offering my services to devs who need artshit.
Make art
Post in on opengameart or something
Wait for devs to flock to you if you did goo shit

It's not that hard.

>>162096498
Writing is difficult to do well.

A visual novel can have upwards of double the entirety of the LotR's series word count.

I've done visual novel stuff and even have the entirety of a plot and the beginnings of script. My artists couldn't work to a schedule so it went into hibernation.

Also music is super important for the proper experience in a VN.

>>162098113
>>162098129
>>162098168
Just regular ass art? I can do that for sure, but for some reason I expected indie devs rather looking for those who can help them cash in on the pixel aesthetic.
>particularly animated pieces
Retard question, but what people usually use for animating?

>>162098529
Jesus christ you dense fuck, if you want to make pixel art for people then practice pixel art.

>>162097954
Zombies are an extremely overdone theme in the past 4+ years. Every zombie game just looks and usually plays like lazy garbage.

Even if you did make a decent zombie game, I don't understand how the TLOU2 hype would help you in any way. It's not like people are suddenly going to buy up all the zombie game.

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Drew her in 2d.

kind of like the idea of this way better.

>>162098529
>cash in on the pixel aesthetic.
the $ portion of pixel art is that its so easy the programmer can do it so they dont have to hire artists

>>162098798
But they look completely different

>>162098529
See >>162098862

If you plan to cash in with pixel art, it'd better be good.
Also nobody cares about a random character or a random tileset, if you really are serious about it then make a damn full set with characters, enemies, tiles and backgrounds.

>>162098086
Well, there are two steps. First, for each caster there is a call to Graphics.Blit, that executes very simple fragment shader, which sole purpose is to copy and move by player velocity previous displacement texture, darken it and draw a new dot for current caster position. Then, terrain material has another shader, that utilizes this displacement texure in vertex shader step - simply calculates texture coordinate from world position and uses sampled value to increase/decrease y cooridnate.

>>162098529
post art
that's the only way to know if you're actually able to do art because everyone tumblrite and deviant art kid thinks they can art

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I honestly don't know about my pixel shit. This feels TOO garbage.

>>162099182
Nah, it's OK. You're just being too afraid of big shapes in your patterns. Let your shapes be big and you'll find that mushroom quickly improve.

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>>162099182
I mean look at this garbage.

>>162099182
>>162099373
The linework is messy and the 1-pixel thick "shading" is doing more harm than good.

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Experimenting with quickly and cheaply creating clickable "maps" for games.

1. Grab any image that might work as a map, when in doubt pick an image and edit/filter it.

2. Make a desaturated, darker copy of that in another layer.

3. Paint plain areas where the clickable "places" will be on yet another layer. One solid colour per place, make sure the edges are hard - no anti-aliasing.

4. Use that layer to mask out/cut out the areas in the darker image, so that the lower (lighter) one will show through.

5. Use the edges as a guide to paint some soft, white glow around the edges of the places. Use that image as the map. This can be a JPEG to save space.

6. Use the "places" layer from step 3 as another image (save as PNG!), hidden from the player. When the player clicks on a pixel on the "map" image, use the colour of the pixel on this "places" image to determine which area exactly was clicked on.

Time per map: Some 5-10 minutes.

>>162099373
That's just because you're trying too hard to be real about it. Remember, you're trying to make the impression of a thing -- not try to literally represent it. So, in this case, the veins down the center are actually less important than the texture of the leaf itself.

>>162099474
Sorry but I'll have to ask who there.

>>162099182
>>162099373
Reminds me of those old Czechoslovakian cartoons, like Krtek.

>>162099182
>>162099373
>blah loOOOk at how GARBAJ my THING IS
shaking my head to be honest family

>>162099496
>you're trying to make the impression of a thing -- not try to literally represent it.
this is like the definition of making good low res art

>>162097954
>zombie game
>expecting to make money
Maybe 5 years ago. Not even AAA overflow hype could help you now

>>162097834
>was
She still is. She said she'll be on a dev break for some time, but she still posts art and what not on her Tumblr.

>>162097278
I can go with p2p, can you explain why that would be better in this case? I assumed it would be the same set of tech challenges but with less issues if I had one client acting as host

Does using p2p really make such a big differnce?

Reminder to add unskippable, slow animations to extend the playtime of your game. Play any JRPG for inspiration.

>>162099664
this le condescending woman face would be far more effective if she didn't insert steel into her nose like a bull

can anyone show me some battle music that better fits a fantasy setting but still gets you pumped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw

i only played the doom demo but this makes me want to buy it if i weren't so broke/had time to play it

>>162099865
And be sure to add them to common interactions, such as 'an object that you can hover over but can't collect/interact with'.

For references, see: Limbo of the Lost

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>>162099865
Remember to extend your gametime by artificially lengthening your load screens.

>>162099964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFPVWv7X0c4

>>162100132
makes a painful amount of sense

>>162099964
Check out the stuff by Peter Crawley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0BEzLQclx4

>>162099964
Doom is fantastic but don't buy it until it's cheap. Only the single player is worth it and I beat it in 5 hours.

>>162099821
The thing about having an authoritative server is that it still needs to react to input from clients. But by the time the server has received the input, it needs to go back in time and resimulate from when the input actually happened. With P2P, you don't have to do this backwards time travel since each client is authoritative over whatever their input affects. You also have less latency to worry about.

>>162100354
you seem upset

>>162100171
i like this as a piece of music, but not for what i had in mind. the DOOM track is simple, primal even. it's a few bars with a nice low-frequency distortion

in the same way that DOOM's OST makes me want to go on a vengeful murderous rampage, I am hoping to make tunes that make you want to slay all urks for being nasty filth that take your stuff

>>162099964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQS4o_bYA_M

>>162100318
t. 25% completion on Hurt Me Plenty

>>162099964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8

>>162100276
this isn't bad. Is there any OSTs where the drums/percussion take a lead? I feel like they're out of place in a medieval/fantasy setting

i.e. the drumming here is pretty spectacular https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11eis4XVfVE but again, guitars

>>162100318
it's only $18 on GOG and I can't afford that

>>162100732
He has a ton of music, so likely.

For example, check parts of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc2ohEp8Tp4

What I particularly like about him are the terms of use for his music:

> Using my music for FREE ?
>
> There's some situations when you can use my music for FREE :
>
> YouTube Channels can use my music for FREE, even if they are monetized. The only condition is to CREDIT ME AS THE COMPOSER of the song and add a link to my YouTube Channel.
>
> And if you want to use my music for a NON-COMMERCIAL project, YOU ARE FREE to use my music with the same conditions (credit me as the composer and add a link to my YouTube channel).

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>>162099182
>>162099373

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Canada's Prime Minister Justin Treadaeu made a videogame. What do you all think?

https://archive.is/z6yjw

>>162101347
I'm so proud of my prime minister

>>162100732
It's on GOG?

>>162101741
g2a, sorry

>>162100425
But how do I keep them in sync. That is my main issue. I seem to be trading one set of problems for another by going p2p, not to mention the fact that everyone can cheat in that circumstance rather than just the host, right?

>>162101741
nah that dude has zero clue what he's talking about

>>162101901
g2a is right dodgy

>>162101095
Looks good anon. And makes mee feel good, somehow. Are you going to do some comfy game?

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>>162097930
>Sorry I called you a lazy asshole
this is AGDG, man. You're not supposed to be helpful and polite in my board.

>>162101956
Not even AAA companies can stop players cheating, so don't worry too much

>>162101956
Well that's pretty straightforward. When a client is authoritative over something, every so often you broadcast snapshots of relevant state to whoever is interested. When a client receives these snapshots, it uses them to correct their predictions.

>>162102213
http://www.pcgamer.com/south-korea-makes-cheating-in-online-games-an-actual-crime/

Soon

>>162102213
doesn't mean you shouldn't try

>>162102347
South Korea really working to earn that "worst Korea" moniker.

>>162102347
Based Korea

>>162102108
Just edits of >>162099373 >>162099182

>>162102436
Which is why I said "too much". You should obviously do some attempts at basic anti-cheat, but since even huge companies struggle with it it's not something to spend too much time on

>>162102524
Maybe, but when you consider the kind of money there is to gaming there it kind of makes sense. Almost.

Not really.

>>162102436
If "trying" means increasing latency and making the developer's life harder and yet it still allows the host to cheat, why even bother?

P2P has the potential for multiple clients to be authoritative over the same piece of state with the true state determined democratically. As long as honest players outnumber cheaters, you will be protected. This is the same way cryptocurrency works even through it's decentralized.

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>>162102223
>Well that's pretty straightforward. When a client is authoritative over something, every so often you broadcast snapshots of relevant state to whoever is interested. When a client receives these snapshots, it uses them to correct their predictions.
So is it exactly as I suggested at first--one authoritative "host" and the other three players just do their own simulation but get periodic updates just to make sure things are going smoothly?

>>162097826
Thinking I'm shitposting because I give constructive criticism? lol okay

>>162103001
>P2P has the potential for multiple clients to be authoritative over the same piece of state with the true state determined democratically. As long as honest players outnumber cheaters, you will be protected. This is the same way cryptocurrency works even through it's decentralized.
but how do I determine which physics simulation is correct then?
>4 different people have 4 different results
may as well be playing single player

>>162104176
No, because instead of having one machine authoritative over everything, different machines are authoritative over different things and collectively simulate everything.

>>162104331
>but how do I determine which physics simulation is correct then?
Like I said, democratically. If you have two honest players and a cheater, for example, you will generally get either three very similar states or two very similar states (from the honest players) and one different state (from the cheater). Then you just consolidate (e.g. average) the similar states and throw out the outliers, and if a given player broadcasts a lot of outliers and consistently (you have to be lenient on things like lag spikes or cosmic bit flips) you can be pretty sure they're cheating.

Granted, this is now increasing the complexity a lot but it's a fairly solid anti-cheat method (in theory at least) that isn't as flawed as client-server.

>>162104769
I don't care that much about cheating--I'm talking about syncing physics and such. I have an idea, however shitty, of how to do this with one host and three clients. I have no idea how to do it with a true peer-to-peer topology. Any suggestions?

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r8 my shitty game lads
https://mega.nz/#!p0Rx3TAQ!ONMp-YYgbPhEXPVGpFK3C-vjusQl8XCRmjLJNQ8TnqE

virus scan result:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/85fbe3573054ee677062382a1ffa3071c158553b4a9e3b83e7e47a779c3a6712/analysis/1481150544/

>>162104891
>Any suggestions?
What I wrote in >>162102223. The nitty-gritty, like exactly how you implement correcting predictions with snapshots, is the same no matter how you set up the network. I don't know what's so difficult about the concept of distributing the authority.

>>162105065
>well I gave you the explanation for what you already understand
>"Can you explain your own suggestion in detail?"
>just look at what I already said, what's the problem?
...do you just post to be a snob and feel good about yourself or something?

I mean why even waste our time

>he's making an rpg
>he's making a platformer
>he's making a roguelike
>he's making a rogutelite
>he's making a 2d game
>he's making a pixel art game

>>162105234
What do you not understand?

>>162105247
>none of the above
What do I win?

>>162105247
>all of the above
What do I win?

>>162105324
>nondeterministic physics engine
>1 client does physics sim
>has authority over the remaining 3
>only one relevant result
>4 clients do physics sim
>4 different results

do you even have an actual suggestion? This is the last reply you'll get if your'e shitposting

>>162105042
Since graphics are not important according to agdg I expect at least 30 people to try that game.

>>162105247
im making a hack n slash. i think most of us are younger/newer devs, and starting will well outlined formulas makes a lot more sense starting out than delving into theoretical categories when you can't even write javascript to make a character move

>>162105247
who hurt you?

>he's not an artist
>he's a 1ma
why even bother?

>>162104196
If that honestly was your attempt at giving constructive criticism you may have autism.

You said "I'm guessing gamemaker?" which sounds like you're trying to shit talk his game by saying it's GM. Theres no other way to see this because first you didn't even read what engine despite it being in his post, and second because why else would you ask if it was GM? You didn't respond when he updated you and the post, so it obviously wasn't genuine curiosity.

Plus for asking for online help, a brief overview is usually fine, its more put together than the rest of reddit asking for same thing. But I just now saw it, so maybe it was WAY worse before the edit.

You're definitely shit posting, or don't get social interaction, which is arguably the same thing

>>162091582
>>162090554
>click link
>[Rev-Share]
>close tab

>>162105719
>tfw 1ma learning to art
Hard, but satisfying

>>162105752
I'm not insulting him for using GM (and I saw that it's unity) I didn't bother reading the title before. I don't have autism, and didn't bother with the follow-up because everything looks good (except the weirdly political story the game has).

Saying I have autism then following up with saying you didn't read the original post, and then YOU putting words in my mouth about game maker. Nice. Again, zero issue if he was using game maker. But thanks for being a prick. I'll have you know I've contributed to this community with over 500 posts in the past six months and have become a top player in agdg discord chat. I've personally false flagged over ten unique posters as rotate and despise the effort you're putting into making me seem like a fool, friendo.

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post progress

>>162106127
can i play this already?

it's up my alley

>>162105509
In every situation, everybody does their own physics simulation to combat latency, with the authoritative state used to correct the predictions. All you're changing is whether one client is authoritative over everything or whether the clients split up the state between them.

For example, a multiplayer FPS with physics. Each client is authoritative over, say, their character, bullets they fire, and physics objects that were last affected by them. So if A throws an object at B, A is authoritative over it until it hits B and bounces off of them, and then they are authoritative over it until it stops moving (sleeps) and then nobody is authoritative over it until it is moved again.

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Looking at the most recent entries at OpenGameArt can pay off. Think I'll finally fully texture a level with this set.

http://opengameart.org/content/js-fprpg-texture-pack-01

>>162106217
yeah, there is a shitty pre-alpha version since DD11 and I'm planning a proper demo for DD12
https://panstas.itch.io/world-of-horror

>>162104196
Nah as I said "at first". It did seem rather aggressive so I wasn't sure if I was being trolled, but I updated it regardless.

>>162105901
Yeah I'm doing it my spare time so I'm looking for some else who will as well. It's a fun project that will hopefully money, but for now, paying others is out of the question.

>>162106072
Yeah I didn't GM comment was slight at GM either. Glad to see it looked better when I updated tho, thanks.

>>162105509
>>162106267
Also, you're lucky I'm still helping you, given your attitude that if I'm not reading your mind and spoonfeeding you I'm trolling.

>>162106295
Looks great, keep it up!

>>162106267
>>162106436
You said absolutely nothing of value and you are smug as hell in the process. You've done nothing but over-explain the definition of the word 'authoritative'.
>What don't you understand?
Either English isn't your first language or you're just a genuine autist

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Any engine-devs on?

I'm trying to follow a DX11 tutorial and decided to try and render TWO triangles, but only one is making it.

XMMATRIX viewMatrix, projectionMatrix, worldMatrix;
m_pCamera->Render();
m_pCamera->GetViewMatrix(viewMatrix);
m_pCamera->GetProjectionMatrix(projectionMatrix);

m_pShape->GetWorldMatrix(worldMatrix);
m_pShape->Render(m_pImmediateContext);
m_pShader->Render(m_pImmediateContext, m_pShape->GetIndexCount(), worldMatrix, viewMatrix, projectionMatrix);

m_pShape2->GetWorldMatrix(worldMatrix);
m_pShape2->Render(m_pImmediateContext);
m_pShader->Render(m_pImmediateContext, m_pShape2->GetIndexCount(), worldMatrix, viewMatrix, projectionMatrix);

I know i should be posting WAY more code for help, but does anyone at a glance recognize my problem? http://www.rastertek.com/tutdx11s2.html is the tut if that helps

>>162106595
>Either English isn't your first language or you're just a genuine autist
And you can't figure out or at least Google what "authoritative" means? Do you understand the concept of "authority"?

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>>162106775

>>162106601
I don't know DirectX, but when something is not rendering for me in OpenGL I usually debug using RenderDoc, it has DirectX support too, so check it. It basically allows you to see what kind of data and commands did GPU receive and browse them.

>>162106601
I advise you start again and don't follow that particular tutorial because the hundreds of lines of irrelevant boilerplate they spew at you completely obscure what is going on.

>>162106818
Has this tactic of being confrontational while asking for help been successful in the past?

>>162106923
thanks, ill look into that

>>162107032
>I advise you start again
seems like a harsh reaction to a simple problem

>>162107032
Wish /vg/ had IDs so I could just filter your shitposts out

>>/reddit/

>>162106818
>asks for help
>doesn't understand
>it must be everyone else that's retarded!

>>162107205
Well the simple fact that it's impossible to diagnose what may be happening here without reading hundreds of lines of framework code even though all you're doing is drawing two triangles should speak for itself.

>>162107228
>I've already worked out two approaches: solution A and solution B
>I understand solution A but I have this problem
>how can I solve this problem?

>"use solution B"
>okay, can you explain how solution B solves my problem and suggest how I might implement it?
>[explanation for solution A]
>I already understand solution A but it comes with the caveat I mentioned above
>"What's so hard about this?"
>nothing but you didn't really answer my ques-
>"wow can't you just google it? why are you so confrontational? you're lucky I'm even feeding you these scraps that are my shitposts"
>fuck off retard stop trolling
>"WOW WHY ARE YOU SO RUDE AND STUPID"

>>162107212
>Wish /vg/ had IDs
One good thing about 8gdg is that we've learned that the shitposters are actually very few. It's just the same idiots constantly shitposting the thread again and again.

Just like Square Enyx being an absolute idiot in the Discord literally every fucking day. I don't know why our thread always gets the most retarded shitposters of /vg/

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>>162106127
boring rocks

>>162107469
>>162107714

>I don't know why we get retarded shitposters
>Gets a retarded shitpost reply

Hah, this fucking general, man.

>>162107362
how exactly is restarting going to solve that? should i follow a better tutorial? is there one you recommend?

>>162105042
wew lad
fixed a bug
https://mega.nz/#!8kAwBKLZ!ls_GSL6b3qESZM9ToiTOvxIp5bpiyBc22lfbKj0uz9M

>>162107465
Things that didn't happen.

>>162107465
>still replying even though the discussion is headed nowhere
You told him you'd stop replying, anon. I suggest you follow through on that.

Just realized how much of a meltdown danny would have if there were ids

He can only hide his shitposting for so long, it's why he hates discord

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>>162108050
>You told him you'd stop replying, anon. I suggest you follow through on that.

Is this guy having a hissy fit even the original person who asked the question?

>>162108175
>I just can't stop replying!

>>162108259
this question is relevant every thread. if everyone had a game this wouldn't happen

>>162108326
it's true

UE or Unity if I am starting out and want to just get started in learning 3D game programming. Focus is more on mechanics and gameplay with placeholder art.

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Woo

>>162107871
>how exactly is restarting going to solve that?
You'll be able to focus on D3D11 and not

>should i follow a better tutorial?
I mean, you could use the same tutorial and extract the relevant parts, but I would not suggest following them verbatim.

>is there one you recommend?
Microsoft's official programming guide. It's quite good.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff476345(v=vs.85).aspx
Unfortunately the learning resources are limited for D3D, especially D3D11.

May I ask why you want to use D3D11 instead of OpenGL? OpenGL is more portable and has far more learning resources.

>>162108062
>He can only hide his shitposting for so long, it's why he hates discord
link me to the discord pls

>>162107871
>>162108767
*You'll be able to focus on D3D11 and not have to also implement and use the shitty framework RasterTek uses.

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>>162107796
but that's a very good looking rock indeed.

Why does mothdan hate engine devving anyways, doesn't make sense to me lol!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11823999

this poll is a waste of time so don't click on it

>>162109440
Danny knows how to change ip, which he does to shitpost, he's leading right now but expect rotate to shoot up in votes or something

>mention danny
>suddenly the shitposting shifts to defending danny

Hmmmm......

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>>162106127
Started working on enemy AI (this is just for testing for now) and knockback effect, which looks a bit stupid but I'll work on it.

I also realized I will need to save other things when switching scenes like the state of interactable objects in the overworld and items that have or have not been picked up. I might actually change the system to use LoadAdditive or something.

>>162091739
She seems nice. What's the problem?

>>162110246
Nobody who's making a lot of progress is using their own engine. Way to make a nonargument.

>>162110246
so?

Starting something in Unreal 4, but I have zero experience in any of this shit.

Should I start by doing every tutorial on the youtube, or ...?

>>162110819
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you were just shitposting. Nevermind.

>>162110738
Go on the Learn tab and download the Content Examples project, it has a demonstration of just about every feature.

Then just like make game.

>>162110738
if you have zero experience, jumping straight to Unreal might not be for you. I'd either start something in Game Maker or Unity.

Maybe Python + PyGame if you want to get into programming.

>>162107469
It's not just agdg, it's all of /vg/ that attracts these people
Maybe it's that they're actually shitting up threads all over 4chan but we only notice in /vg/ because it's always the same people here

>>162110738
start with the tutorials... they're pretty good
it's how i got started with unreal

>>162111048
I'm newish to game development but I'm not new to programming, would you recommend Löve or pygame?

>>162111287
just use unreal faggot

it's retard friendly with blueprints

you're not going to make anything good anyway

>>162111180
/vg/ is the board most similar to Reddit and traditional forums in general.