/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

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Is Anno 4x enough? I recently pirated 2205 having not played any of the games since the original 1602 and I'm wondering what I should name my corp

predictions on endless space 2?

SMAC is shit.

>>162069013
You take that back you heathen.

SMAC is watery shit.

>>162068195
oh did they?
Sweet.

>>162068257
Yeah i saw that wording on America too. I'm thinking we'll get Lincoln, but i'm hoping we get Trump.

>Build great Wall of America
>MAGA
>Can grab the pussy of female leaders and make them do his bidding

>>162068658
But Amenities are more important by that point, there are better ways to build your empire than packing everything just to take advantage of a big stadium.

>>162069314
SMAC is an amazing experience but a mediocre game。
An unpatched-Morrowind-exploit-level game.
Some of the bugs like infinite orbital drop troop movements were never fixed in the original.

>>162070310
>oh did they?
>Sweet.
Yep, Denmark, Korea, Celts, Sweden, Austria, Indonesia, Portugal, Morocco, Brazil, Venice, and Poland all had city-state cities that were replaced after those civs were put in the game.

>MoO update
what is this 40mb, fixes?

>>162070925
I'm glad, I hope the Dutch make a return with a trade ability.

>>162068982
faithful sequel to the original

i.e. boring as fuck game with little to no atmosphere, but a nice interface

how to pirate EL DLC?

>>162070310
>but i'm hoping we get Trump
and the least realistic expection of 2016 award goes to anon

>>162071774
thank you for Correcting The Record

10 shekels have been deposited into your account.

>>162071962
#MAGA

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Can't find any Endless Legend DLC torrents that aren't shit.

>>162074601
try IPT

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I love nukes

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>>162076323
Who doesn't like nukes?

Well, except Japaneses.

>>162068943
Anno 2205 is the least 4x of all the Annos.

Is that game 4X?

There's no real explore, but it's a turn-based game focusing heavily on economy.

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>>162081685
Bigger screenshot.

Based on last night's replies, my species in Stellaris is using the following:

Traits -- Talented, Charismatic, Communal, Nonadaptive.
Ethos -- Fanatic Individualist, Materialist.
Government -- Indirect Democracy.

I'm thinking of replacing Talented with something else, given that between my government and certain technologies I'd reach a baseline of 5-star leaders eventually anyway.

Your thoughts?

>>162083959
You're playing a shit game and it makes me want to poop.

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>>162071774
Guarantee you more people know who Donald Trump is than Nignog Mufugguh of Congo or Trannyris of Scythia.
>mfw he is Time's POTY and erry1 mad bouts it

>>162070971
Who cares, I turned my back on them ever since they made the space jews into little cows, the cowards.

How would you guys gauge the effectiveness of a Charismatic/Industrious/Thrifty/Nonadaptive/Sedentary species with Collectivist/Fanatic Materialist/Plutocratic Oligarchy?

Bonuses to diplomacy, minerals, energy, and science, with reduced construction costs across the board.

>>162084359
That's not very kind.

If you had to choose between one rank of Collectivist and one rank of Individualist (meaning that neither is Fanatic), which would you choose?

Keep in mind that Individualist would unlock the Hyper-Entertainment Forum (planetary unique, +15% happiness) and the Galactic Stock Exchange (empire unique, +10% energy) while Collectivist would unlock the Ministry of Benevolence (empire unique, -15% ethics divergence).

Do sectors build happiness buildings in 1.4?

That would greatly influence my decision.

>>162085179
With slavery minerals would unlikely to be the problem. Pick thrifty, energy right now is a major limiter.

>>162085920
Individualist. I can't be arsed to enslave pops so I'd rather have more energy from pops and less unhappiness from policies.

>>162085920
what's your fanatic trait? Kinda influencing the decision

How many triple ethos greetings there are? I only ever encountered xenophile-militarist-collectivist 'You will embrace the greater good", and it didn't always appear.

>>162081901
Reminds me of fragile allegiance

>>162088773
Watched it, looks pretty similar.

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Even with RTS, we're dying.

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>>162092640
Sorry I´m busy fapping to Zone´s latest work

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>>162093060
Fine, I'll take it from here.


So, uh, this is an orthodox church. It looks pimping and really cool.

is this the place to talk about civ vi?

i know it's in the op but literally no one is talking about it and i'm confused

>>162093060
>Zone´s latest work
Post it on /f/

>>162093579
If you want to talk about Civ, start talking about Civ and people will respond

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>>162093794
>>162093794
No Need for that
https://mega.nz/#!wQtBDLoB!KZCr-Bw3UXzT9qNmiWAUiHE-RW_IL3xRWqRVkwMXpLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE

>>162094056

I want to chat shit about civ 6. World will be banged by greater india.

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>stellaris still boring late game

>>162094289
>1.7 gigabytes
It's the 4k dolphin porn innit

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>>162095018
Nope 1080p mp4 that goes for 16 minutes
If you dont trust me check the thread on /aco/

>>162086004
I can afford both. Should I replace Industrious with Intelligent?

>>162086134
Thanks.

>>162086935
Materialist for the bonus to science and the reduced construction cost.

>>162094908
I think the game could really use some superweapon projects to make death stars and shit, along with other mini crisis. That could help with boredom in the ending stages of the midgame and lategame

Anyone aurora 4x here?

I feel like I have no idea what I am doing, stumbling through with research and such. But not progressing forwards but sideways.

Also all of the planets, moons and asteroids around me have no decent resources

>>162076323
>>162077187
Oh my penis what a game.

is there a bug where i can clear a marsh but get no food out of it? my city did not gain extra surplus food.

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>decide to be wild and play a pacifist nation in stellaris
>Almost every single other nation is literally fucking crazy for war
>Galaxy looks like a rave with plants constantly flipping colors
What the sweet fucking is going on

>>162108363
I had similar experiences with my "tall pacifist" games in civ5. I guess the reason if you do a "warmonger" play-through, you always observe the top powers and try to keep them in check. Whereas in pacifist they go unhinged as long as they don't attack you.

>>162093060
Did you played that autistic mod for World in conflict with point defence and some other wizard slav code magic? That shit is so cool.
>>162093468
Are you joking?

What do you guys do in Stellaris when you find another specifies with the same portrait as yours? Do you purge them outright?

>>162070576
A lot of good games actually have pretty weak gameplay.
I love Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, but I'll freely admit that most of the actual gameplay is rubbish.

>>162110679
>Militarist fanatical collectivist mushroom men
>Just finished devouring a third of the galaxy, the last hurdle being a isolationist fallen empire
>Find a second fallen empire that shares my species portrait
>They're benevolent watchers, basically the complete opposite of me
I tried to be nice, but they didn't like it when I purged almost every pop out of 4 sector ring world

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>underwater space jews are finally playable
Time to roll in cash.

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>>162112496
Every time I've played this game with any success I've been a huge warmonger, and the harder I war the harder I usually win. So this is going to be a bit of a change.

I just bough Stellaris, what should I expect? Did I just waste my money?

So is Stellaris "playable" yet?

>>162114284
yes

>>162114453
no

not until they add culture, religions, trade between your systems and deep, meaninful combat

so fucking never

>>162114284
>>162114453
Stop samefagging.

If you're not samefagging (highly improbable), then Stellaris is still bad.

>>162114725
Yea i kinda expected that.
>>162114791
It just happened mang.
Gonna pirate Deadlock 2 game instead.

>>162114868
If you're serious, check https://www.gog.com/forum/deadlock_series/deadlock_ii_screen_goes_blank

The Steam version, and, sometimes the GoG version too, have annoying issues.

>>162114284
It's like Cookie Clicker. The game demands that you click on things, and you do. Underneath all the busywork is ostensibly a strategy game that lets you play Europa Universalis, but since you start with one province it's a 4x.

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>>162114207
Because its only way to win.
You Snow ball and steam roll everything.
More pop = more research and cash
This game look nice play nice but its system is flawed.
>no gradual colonization techs(yeah there are hospitable an non hospitable worlds and one tech to rule them all)
>upgrades of improvements or ground units are free
>ship upkeep is minimal
>bombing enemy population make enemy pops on other planets go rebel
>tech progression to fast
>no logistic so death stacks
>offense>defense so crush enemy fleet and then you roll them
There is no consolidation phase or modernization phase like in MoO. Just expand and crush anyone.
Sadly there are no hopes that it will be fixed.

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>>162115287
Yeah, that's definitely the game's major flaw. Real gains are made through war, and all other mechanics only feed into fighting wars more effectively.

>>162115925
Oh.
That's just a detail, but I like how the examiner isn't just a normal guy, they gave him a monocle and some kind of PDA.

That's something that bothered me in Stellaris and Distant Worlds : scientists don't have white coats.

>>162116339
Yeah, it's sort of neat. I've come to appreciate the cartoony artstyle.

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>>162115925
There is also some more.
>minerals are used for ships production but you can't synthesis or buy them - choke point for small empires
>you can buy production for coin but can't change production into coin(can't produce trade goods only trade that double coin output but have nothing with production)
>research points are independent from production or coins, come from labs or populations minimal upkeep, no scaling
>food is transported used freighters but minerals go into global stock and can be used anywhere
>no mechanics to slow snowballing, not even slow bumbs like in MoO where you need spend production on terramorfing, upgrading missile bases and factories, colonizing and investing in new planets, bigger=better always, expansion is cheap, colonize everything, even Stellaris have increased tech costs and sometimes its better to leave colonization of non friendly planets for later
>here? colonize every little shithole you find, it will benefit you(especially research).
>research come from labs and planets have limited slots for buildings, more planets = faster research
Game is flawed as single.
The best use is for short small map battles because with 100+ systems there is like 300-400 planets colonized in short time and its a chore.

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>pic

>>162117951
meant to reply to >>162117625
kill me

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>>162118073

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>>162118293
>ninegig

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>>162115287
>>162117625
>>162118293
fucking christ I need a ginger kitter

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>those racial traits
I'll have to figure out how to genocide/enslave/deport these guys after a while.

>>162117625
Yeah, there needs to be a major balance of economy to reward building tall planets, to give you an option to just spamming colonies everywhere. Tall, well developed planets are better right now, but there's not enough depth to planetbuilding, meaning you never really have to choose between spamming planets or building quality, you can just do both.
Likewise, I'm fine with minerals being a choke point (you can strictly speaking buy them, I've just never liked trading with the AI), if there was an option to just spamming ships in every colony. Make going wide about "low tech high tonnage", and tall be about small fleets of very well equipped and specialised ships, which would again require a research rebalance.

>>162115925
They look adorable.

I feel like petting them.

>>162118835
It won't help.
>economy rework
>research rework
>colonization and expansion rework
>combat rework
it will not happen

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>>162121410
Forgot pick.

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These are new.

Well, serves me right for blind-expanding with colony ships. Press F to pay respect to 1 million brave Space Jews lost in space.

Also I'm looking forwards to growing my economy to the point where I can just stop producing ships and buy mercenaries for everything.

>>162122667
they are easy to kill and shoot only short range torps

Someone knows how can i get archivements in Stellaris without playing Ironman? Becouse it sucks ass not being able to save when i can only play 2 hours per day.

>>162123317
How does that stop you from getting achievments? Just exit out and continue later, i don't see a problem.

>>162123616
> Just exit out and continue later, i don't see a problem.
Is this a thing or you're trolling me? Stellaris doesn't save my game. If i hit exit while playing in Ironman my game is gone for good.

>>162124289
Ironman means no manual saves. It autosaves. Perhaps if you tried playing it you would figure this out.

>>162124289
>plays ironman
>doesnt even know what ironman is
>complains about an aspect fundamental to ironman

>>162101324
yus.

that's basically how I did it when I played. I had no idea what I was doing. its one of those games you have to just dive feet first into to learn.

you'll have to figure out how to colonize if you want to stave off running out of a resource. fyi terraforming takes forever so start as soon as possible, even with just one or two terraformers.

Heyo guys. I bought endless legend a week or two ago on sale, with all the dlc except the naval one.

I've been playing vaulters but I find it difficult to win through pure science. Yes, I can technically capture cities, kill everyone, and impede the progress of other armies, but how do people bolster their science so high?
I've been googling forum posts and see that people somehow rack up 5k science per turn per city by around turn 130-160 on normal. How the hell is this possible? I can barely reach 1k per city with around 4 or 5 cities and barely start researching the difference engine at around turn 140-160, which takes like 40-odd turns to research.
I've also searched vaulter games on youtube but most people just abuse the teleport ability and annex everything, winning either by capitals or expansion. Anyone have any tips?
Also, is the naval expansion worth it?

>>162128292
Naval xpac kinda breaks things with how many resources it provides, but the new race offers some neat shit.

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>tfw the War in heaven erupts around you

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>>162130515
>FE right next to you awakens in your fanatic militarist playthrough

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>tfw you get sick of trying to invade a planet and just bombard it from space
>tfw you didn't realise it would kill the population not just the soldiers
>tfw you watch the planet's habitability plunge down to zero
>tfw the population drops from 30000k to zero within ten seconds
>tfw you accidentally 30 billion life forms
>tfw it wasn't an accident

>>162131459
(*30,000M)

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>New LEX update.
Oh boy, I can't wait to get fucked in the ass by these guys.

>>162124289
Do you have autosaves turned on?

>>162137220
>Ironman
Reeeally

>>162110894
>>162070576
Why are the best games always broken pieces of shit?

>>162138262
I think SMAC has the best quotes and good set of faction leader persoalities. I'd buy a BERT expansion if it was SMAC themed.I want updated versions of the cheesy project movies annd everything though.

Fanatic Materialist/Individualist or Fanatic Individualist/Materialist?

If the former, I was thinking of starting the game as a Plutocratic Oligarchy to get my economy up and running, but doing so would be impossible if I went with F. Individualist.

F. Individualist is really beneficial for a large, multi-species empire, though, which is the plan.

Your thoughts?

>>162140692
yes

>>162140692
42.

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>>162110535
You mean that Modern Warfare mod?
Yes I played it and it was pretty good
Dont know why the modder added in a missle launcher that plays "Allahu Ackbar" when shooting

>>162143875
>>162144002
Guys, come on.

Please?

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>>162140692
Xenophobic/Fanatic spiritualist you capitalist scum.

>>162145298
Did that dog just attacked a kid for no reason?

>>162146594
yes, I remember reading about that a long time ago. basically dog got loose, was wandering the streets, went after the kid, but the cat beat the fuck out of him.

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>>162146594
Ofcourse not. a doggo is the best man friend

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>>162147367
Cats are cuter and funnier.

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>>162147671
I am not sure about that.

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>>162148008
Sorry, but cats are awesome. We need more cats in games.

We're hitting rock-bottom here. Someone start talking about a strategy game, or post a shitty Civ6 quote so that we can all get angry.

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The Case for Limiting Ship Designs

I’m going to go a little off-script tonight and talk about a particular space 4X Game mechanic rather than working on Remnants. As the title suggests, I am going to talk about the game limiting the number of ship designs allowed at any given time. The impetus for this is some criticism by followers of the new “Project: Space Sector” game, whose developers are implementing it in that game.

This feature seems to be a poorly understood (or perhaps appreciated) mechanic, but what is it, really? In MOO1 (=Remnants), it means that neither the player or AI races can have more than six active ship designs at any time. If you are at the limit, you have to scrap and existing design before creating a new one. And when you scrap a design, you lose ALL of the ships in your fleet with that design (although you are compensated for 25% of those ship’s value).

And therein lies the interesting decision. There’s a give and take that you don’t always see in this part of space 4x’s. Want to create a new, shiny ship with all of your best technological toys? Well, the cost is that you might impair the effectiveness of your existing fleet while you retool. Or you can wait. And wait.

This creates a tension that forces the interesting decision: when is a good time to upgrade my fleet. Consider the following, fairly common, scenario:

My scientists just researched ‘Super Lasers IV’ which is a clear improvement over the ‘Pretty Decent Lasers II’ that my fighters currently have. So scrap and upgrade, right? Well, maybe not.

After all, each of my existing 6 designs is playing a crucial role in my expansion plans (3 colony ships in transit to new worlds) and my war plans (a various array of fighter, bombers and gunships are keeping the hostile Mrrshan Empire at bay).

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>>162148764
2/3

The Case for Limiting Ship Designs

So… maybe I wait until those colony ships land, scrap the design, and THEN build the new fighter design. Then I can build up a fleet of those BEFORE scrapping my existing fighters. Yeah, that’s a good idea.

A few turns later, I’m ready to build the new fighters.. but wait! My scientists tell me that I am just a few turns away from getting faster ship engines. Ooooh! I should wait for those, right? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Onward!

Finally, about 12 turns later, I am ready to build my new fighters with ‘Super Lasers IV’, the faster engines, the better armor (woot!) and stronger deflector shields. Now,thanks to my amazing patience, my new fighters will be better than anything else in the galaxy!

Then suddenly the Mrrshan, who had upgraded to new fighter designs about 10 turns ago, crash through my outdated fleet and conquer two of my planets before I can get my new fighters assembled. ARRRGHH! The Ship Design limit is stupid!

This scenario has happened to me. Only the technologies have been changed to protect the innocent. As with all things in life, I eventually had to learn when to fish or cut bait instead of sitting on my hands doing nothing. Sometimes you make the right decision and strike while the iron is hot. But sometimes a keen review of your enemy’s fleet or some tactful diplomatic maneuvering can allow you to successfully wait and build the high-tech ship of your dreams.

If you wait too long to upgrade, keeping an aging fleet around becomes risky. And if you constantly upgrade at every opportunity, you never give yourself time to assemble a formidable fleet and remain a pushover empire.

Let’s replay that same scenario in a game that allows you to instead upgrade your existing fleet with new technologies as soon as they are learned.

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The Case for Limiting Ship Designs

My scientists just researched ‘Super Lasers IV’ which is a clear improvement over the ‘Pretty Decent Lasers II’ that my fighters currently have. How much does it cost to upgrade? Oh, I can afford that. Click.

In order words, there is no tension and no strategic decision to be made. You always have the best weapons, armor and engines on your ships at all times. The entire simulated pipeline of ‘going from researching new weapon technology to deployment of those weapons across my fleet’ is obliterated completely from the game. It’s not just a dumbing down of a strategic element, but a complete removal of it. The cost of upgrading ships becomes a simple extension of the cost of researching the technology that initiated the upgrade.

There are other options, like increasing the ship design limit to some higher number, but they generally miss the point — that the primary value in the design limit is to create that tension about when to upgrade your ships. Raising the limit just waters down the impact of the upgrade, which can just as easily render the decision moot.

Now, with all of that said, I totally understand that some people simply do not like this particular game mechanic and so would rather not have a limit at all. That’s cool. There are lots of space 4X games that don’t have a limit and allow you to upgrade your ships whenever you want. But you should at least recognize that this is a valid mechanic, if underappreciated, and deserves a spot in line at the cafeteria of space 4X game mechanics.

That’s all I have to say. More props to Project: Space Sector deciding to retain this mechanic in their MOO2-inspired game.

is stellaris fun yet

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>>162149986
Only with a boatload of mods, all of which are broken right now from the patch.

Playing on medium with 3-4 empires is really fun. I've only ever liked playing High Autist Species Shuffler anyway, and this way you get a huge plethora of pre-space civilisations to stomp.

Yeah I dunno there's just something real neat about having this huge slave empire where every pop is tailored for minerals, food, etc. Of course, the illusion is shattered as soon as you enter one of the sectors and you see fucking Pol Pots cyber incarnation enslave your scientists and try to send them to the farm BUT HES NOT EVEN A GOOD POL POT HIS SOUL GOT KINDA WARPED IN THE CYBER PROCESS AND SO HE JUST KEEPS THESE IDIOTS SHACKLED JUST BEYOND THEIR WORKBENCHES FUCK YOU POL POT YOU CHEEKY MOTHERFUCKER

Anyway, sector AI can be such bullies right?

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>>162147367
t. doggo

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>>162151807
t. catso

>>162150362
What mods would you recommend then(assuming they'll be updated)?

>>162151390
I'm finding playing on 150 stars with max AIs is actually very fun as well. A bit quicker of a game, and there's nice tension created by the very distinct lack of retail.

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Playing Stellaris, and I've gotten to the point in my first empire to where if I want to expand, my only option is to conquer.
Neighbor's fleet power is equivalent. Naval Capacity is inferior. Technological advantage is overwhelming.
Think I can and take the capital?

>>162154798
>Technological advantage is overwhelming.
Yes, you can take it with ease.

>>162155313
Now, just to be clear, that's if THEIR tech is better right?

>>162155374
Yes.

New to Stellaris, should I be going ham with frontier outposts early to snatch some good systems?
How early and often should I colonize?
What is even sectors, I haven't even touched that feature yet.
Do I need to keep my empire connected or is it fine if I colonize better quality but far planets?
I seem to be in a constant struggle for energy while swimming in Minerals, how do I fix it? Also Influence seems to be pretty hard to accumulate.

>>162154798
why do you faggots cap half the screen? A full screen shot will give us so much more information and you'll get better advice

>>162156354
>New to Stellaris, should I be going ham with frontier outposts early to snatch some good systems?
I think go ham, as long as you want to colonize within their range since the inf cost will only be 30 then. Don't go full ham though so you don't get any influence.

>How early and often should I colonize?
asap and forever

>What is even sectors, I haven't even touched that feature yet.
A place to chuck planets when you're at your core limit

>Do I need to keep my empire connected or is it fine if I colonize better quality but far planets?
Fine to colonize further away, the problem is the influence cost

>I seem to be in a constant struggle for energy while swimming in Minerals, how do I fix it? Also Influence seems to be pretty hard to accumulate.
build energy plants

>>162156354
>New to Stellaris, should I be going ham with frontier outposts early to snatch some good systems?
depends on: how good the system is, how close it is, will it stop another empire gaining advantage, how much influence you have. I generally keep my outposts as low as possible but some systems are too juicy to pass up

>How early and often should I colonize?
whenever you want, you see a good system with a 20+ tile planet, grab that fucker asap. Note: sector can only give you up to 75% of their energy/minerals but give you 100% of their research. It's best to have sector do the bulk of your researching. However when starting up you core systems will probably have a substantial amount of research labs. When you are in late game you tend to remove all research labs on my core planets and make them power plants. If you need more energy/minerals then I tend so make a small sector and devote it to energy or minerals.

>What is even sectors, I haven't even touched that feature yet.
you have a core systems limit, go over that limit and energy/research and minerals(possibly I forget) will start getting reduced, eg -10% for every system over the limit, when you start getting big fleet this will CRIPPLE you

>Do I need to keep my empire connected or is it fine if I colonize better quality but far planets?
No, but it's harder to defend, and there are bonuses to having a connected system, I think extra happiness, influence, and credits are gained but not sure on that

>I seem to be in a constant struggle for energy while swimming in Minerals, how do I fix it? Also Influence seems to be pretty hard to accumulate.
Build more power plants, research power related stuff asap, trade minerals for energy, build power plants on mineral tiles.

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>>162156706
>>162156876
Alright, I think I've went with too many far away Frontier Outposts early on but it's fine.
Have a system with 3k+ hostiles blocking me to the south pretty close by and didn't have many proper habitable planets nearby.
Also, what does "Assist Research" feature of science ships do exactly anyway?

>>162157659
you can set two (or more) science ships to research the same thing, reducing research time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, tho

>>162157659
See if you can replace some of your frontier outposts with colonized planets.
in 4 months you have 30 inf so if one of the frontier outposts is placed in a system good for colonization you can colonize it, and then plan on removing the outpost.

>>162157659
>I think I've went with too many far away Frontier Outposts early on
definitely, +1 influence is gonna make life hard.

>assist research
with research ship selected right click on one of your colonized planets. Select assist research. It will boost (+25% for first tech +25% again for 2nd tech) the planets research output. Early game this is pretty worthless as your research ships should be surveying systems. But later use it on whatever planets has the highest research output.

>>162157910
>>162157968
>>162158049
I'm currently researching Robots, how should I utilize them? Just plop them onto any planet that's not habitable for my bird people and go full mineral mining with them?

I wish federation AI would show a little bit more solidarity
kinda sick of the smallest nation proposing wars were he gets 1 system, 2nd member liberates one, and the i get to 'humiliate'

>>162158906
I tend to not use robots due to the energy cost but if there's a good planet you want to claim then yes, use them to colonize and only use them for minerals, food, or admin building. Then wait until you have a species that can live on the planet, either by modding your main species or gain another thru conquest or uplifting

Alright /4xg/ anons, has anyone played extensively with the new Stellaris 1.4 patch, more specifically the end game crises?
Have they been changed, because I was playing a pretty standard game today, had max fleet power at about 40K with a decent fleet construction, and then the Unbidden show up and eat half of my colonies. I binned that game and chalked it up as a loss, but I'm wondering if they've changed the crises to make them more difficult.
When the event chain triggered, my strongest fleets were completely annihilated by the first of the Unbidden fleets, and they had at least 4 each of about 60K power to my 40k, and I couldn't make more ships, I was at max fleet capacity with top level weapons shield and armour. It seems like there's no way to actually come back from having half your colonies eaten and your entire military forced completely destroyed.
Anyone else yet had this problem?
>inb4 git gud scrub

>>162158906
If you have the non-adaptive race trait you can use droid colonies to take planets your species can't colonise, but watch out for the synth uprising. Past that they're not that useful, you can try mass-producing robot pops to take planet tiles quickly but the energy drain somewhat makes them not worth.

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>there will never be terraforming and global climate change in a CIV game again because todays babbies are content to buy CIV 5 reskins

Can we talk about the new Master of Orion here?

>>162162502
yes

>>162162601
Yay.

So it's pretty gud. I like it. They didn't change too much from the old stuff.

Elerians a cute.

>>162162683
riveting post my friend

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-54-ethics-rework.987286/
>Individualist and Collectivist are getting replaced
While the reasoning makes sense it still kind of bothers me for some reason. Mostly the loss of a collectivist ideology.

I know nobody plays it anymore but is there any way to all AI empires super aggresive to me through game files in Stellaris?

>>162163586
they're just getting rebranded. Good.

Are there any decent mods for Civ 6 yet?

Has firaxis even mentioned a time on sdk for civ6 ? I feverishly search their twitter like everyday and i'm desperate.

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>>162149054
>>162148940
>>162148764
>>162148570
>>162148008
>>162147671
>>162147367

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>>162163586
I was already playing with Ethic & Government Rebuilt, which already had egalitarian vs elitist, collectivist vs individualist and authoritarian vs libertarian ethics, so it makes practically no difference to me.

I like the new pop ethic mechanic and the rework of factions, though.

>>162165294
>>162165773
civ 6 is garbage I will never play it again

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Tme for some good old fashioned WW2

>>162168516
I feel old all of a sudden.

>>162158945
>I wish federation AI would show a little bit more solidarity
>kinda sick of the smallest nation proposing wars were he gets 1 system, 2nd member liberates one, and the i get to 'humiliate'
Start the wars yourself. Keep your allies busy.

I was in a federation where everyone else was overwhelming in power compared to me, but I started the wars and had everyone get me planets from my rivals.

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>>162168825
That mod is like from 2009
Pretty good even though the AI doesnt like Infantry

>>162163586
>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-54-ethics-rework.987286/
not a fan of rebranding individualism with egalitarianism

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Man Russia is hard to play in this mod
You get fuck all in terms of tanks early game while the Axis and Allies get Early StuG´s and Valentines

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>Mid-end game in Stellaris
>Control a large chunk of the galaxy, about 1/5th
>4 fleets approaching 60K each
>Was neutral in the WiH, solved Endgame crisis(Unbidden) at great gain in technology
>all my former enemies have split up in small fragmented nations following disagreements during and after WiH
>sit back comfily researching and fucking around with pre-space civs for some time
>one retarded backwater empire, descendants of my biggest rival declare war on me
>Mfw all these defensive pacts/alliances/federations that jump in on either side
>Mfw i realise i am the FE

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Its amazing that I can hold of british Churchill and Matilda tanks with simple armoured scout cars armed with a 45mm cannon

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So slow

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Transcendent empire or Star empire? Im trying to RP as imperium of man from warhammer. Star empire looks more close to it gameplay wise but transcendent empire has that sweet God emperor title

Has there been a post roulette made for civ6 yet? I want to start a new map but i cant decide what to play as and on what.

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>>162174445
Do they change gameplay in any way(other units, other tech, etc)?

>>162174659
nothing important, transcendent empire gives you divergence and ethics bonuses (basically your pops will remain loyal and wont change their path of life so easily), star empire has increaseased border range and reduced influence cost for colonies

>>162174445
Get Ethic & Government Rebuilt and choose Divine Imperium.

I don't know how people play without it.

>>162175229
>basically your pops will remain loyal and wont change their path of life so easily
That sounds more like the imperium of man than the star empire's border range bonuses.

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>>162175302
After I got jewed by paradox on CK2 and HoI 4 I said not again and decided to pirate stellaris (sorry) well if you could upload the mod somewhere and share it that would be great. If not, then that´s fine

>>162176097
I'm sure it's somewhere on the mod archive in the OP, but I don't know what version is it updated to.

>>162140692
Bumping this.

Come on, guys, help me min-max.

>>162175387
Except everyone on the fringes is eager to break away if given half the chance, and the Imperium depends on regular crusades to re-conquer them.

>>162128292
Keep to once city and spam bonus resources until you skyrocket ahead of everyone

>>162176379
well that´s nice but for whatever the archive has like billion folders all named by some random numbers, so..

>>162170016
Nor I, but whatever; they can call the Ethics whatever they want so long as the mechanics are sound.

>>162176847
Find mod on steam workshop, ID number in URL is the same as in the mod archive.
For instance the ethic and government rebuild number is 738611313.

>>162176847
They are the file numbers of the mods in the Steam workshop. You look for a mod you want in the Workshop, copy the file number in the page address and look it up in the archive.

The mods in the archive might not be updated to the latest version of the mod though.

>>162177023
>>162177059
Ok thanks I will try. This is the closest I will get to RPing as Imperium of man

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>mfw playing the creepy pale-skinned Space Elves
>mfw Sedentary, Slow Breeders, Intelligent, Strong and Enduring
>mfw Alpine biome
>mfw Spiritualist, Militarist and Xenophobe
>mfw hyperspace for that Leyline action

>mfw I finally got my Gene Modded Soldiers so I can autistically gush over my elaborately armored Elves crushing ass

>>162179960
Do you hate elves this much?

>>162177341
Update
I got it to work but that version from the archive unfortunately doesnt have the Divine imperium from newer version. Is there any way someone can update the archive or upload the newest version of the mod somewhere?

>>162170425
>all my former enemies have split up in small fragmented nations following disagreements during and after WiH
is it a consequence of WiH or it can occur naturally ?
i'm stuck in a game with 3 blobs and already roflstomped every crisis, i would want to see some shit happen

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>playing stellaris for the first time since buying it
>new to 4x games
>no matter what I do RNG always fuck me
>restarted dozens of times with diffrent t species/governments/ethics but everything usually implodes in 150 years.
>discover the glory of military civs

I swear to fuck is this the only way to play and not get cucked?

Everything else is just not viable it seems.

>>162180243

No? Why would I hate Elves if I'm playing Elves and making them super competent?

>>162180258
It actually is the updated version. In that version, you have to unlock the divine imperium government type. In the older version you can just select it off the bat.

>>162179960
>mfw playing the creepy pale-skinned Space Elves

The knobby-headed blue ones or the ones with silver hair?

>>162180691
oooh okay how do I get the divine imperium then? I already have a playthrough where I chose despotic empire as my starter. I know I can change by clicking on goverment icon but I can only change to two basic goverments. Will I be able to somehow change to divine imperium later?

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this took longer than expected

Does Stellaris have a 'best' government choice?

>>162180932
Read about it here
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=738611313
>7. Divine Imperium - ultimate Spiritualist/Authoritarian - Fanatic Spiritualist, Authoritarian, Militarist - need to learn tech "Psionic Theory"

Alternatively you can just download the old version.

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>>162180871

These ones!

>>162180956
>lost 1000 units
WOAH

>>162180485
Both, it occurs naturally; the unhappiness from the long fighting in WiH just speeds up the process

>>162181018
Yeah, that's what I thought.

I can't stand their clothing options, though.

I wish we could choose what our species wore.

>>162181017
thanks so much for help
I will fuck off now and start playing

>>162181083

The clothing options are ass for everyone, at the very least their species has some clothes that could fit in the context of a militarist species, or someone from a cold world.

Honestly, I can't see Humanoid 3 working anywhere but frozen biomes.

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>>162181032
Russian human wave tactics are a hell of a drug
Its supprisingly efficient to spam cheap conscripts as distraction while your shitty tanks chip away at the enemy tanks

>>162181315
In Generals where ressources are unlimited, yeah.

But in Red Alert where ressources are limited, NOOOOOOOOO.

>>162181203
The Scyldari clothing (the ones with the golden robes) look great all the way through, because they actually look like space-suits.

I wish I could have my species wear that.

Why didn't Endless Legend kick off /civ4xg/?
What didn't you like about it, what was wrong with it?

Mechanically or otherwise

>>162181620
Battles were boring.

>>162180986
Bump?

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>>162181506

>mfw all the preset empires have nifty backstories
>mfw the Blorg is literally "we're jungle things that heard a transmission and we loved it and we're going to space now to love it more."

>>162181868
So they're space hippies?

>>162181938

Not even that, with all the other ones you get a sense they had a lot of evolution and cultural advancement.

The Blorg are just fungus that heard a radio transmission and POOF, they're in space.

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>>162181434
the supply fields in generals/zero hour are limited too
There were Oil Derricks in RA tho
and IIRC the gold fields that had a drill were slowly repleneshing a minimum amount similar to the Tiberium fields

>>162182092
Yeah, but in Generals/Zero Hour, you have buildings that give you money.
And Oil Derricks cannot be rebuild.

And also, gold deposits in RA3 don't replenesh.

>>162181620
>Why didn't Endless Legend kick off /civ4xg/?
What do you mean?
Plenty of people played it when it came out.

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>>162182036
It's been known to happen.

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>>162182297
>And also, gold deposits in RA3 don't replenesh.
Yeah but dont they give a minimal amount of money too after they are empty?

>>162182813
Only minimal amount, and given how the game works, you can't have several harvester to compensate.

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>>162182940
>can't have several harvester to compensate.
That always annoyed the fuck out of me considering how it was always 2-3 harvesters per field in the previous games

>>162183718
Yeah, but I strongly suspect that Red Alert 3 was meant for consoles.
The fact that it's the only Command and Conquer where I can win only makes it obvious that I'm bad at strategy.
And I can only win when the AI is being retarded.

>>162170016
I'm just peeved because the opposite of Authoritarianism is Libertarianism. Communist dictatorships are Authoritarian and Egalitarian by design, if not practical outcome. This is some basic polisci 101 shit really. Any research nob with access to Wikipedia should have looked this up.

>>162184239
They're Swedish.

>>162180986
Bump, again.

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>>162184013
>meant for consoles
Tiberium Wars felt like that to me along with the Battle for Middle Earth games but I though RA3´s whole stick was the co-commander stuff?

>>162185451
>co-commander
What?

And no, Battle for Middle Earth is actually fun, and the PC port is decent. Supreme Commander 2 and Red Alert 3 are so obvious that even I figured out they were first meant for console.

>>162180986
>>162181772
>>162185147
This heavily depends on how you want to play. Depending on play style there aren't any bad ones.

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>>162185696
The little picture in the upper left corner where you could tell them to attackm defend etc?
Also you could play through the campaign with another person if you so desired
I really need to reinstall BfME 2 and check out that Edain mod

>>162186593
Only mod I played was a RotWK one that added Easterners, it was very good.

>open trade panel in Stellaris
>option for me to give them systems
>can't ask them to transfer systems to me
???????

What is the point?

>>162187271
Up their opinion of you

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Why does my Civ VI crash at a specific turn aroune 1500's? This was my first match and I was doing pretty well.

>>162186514
There's no government that's regarded as being better than others in a general mechanical sense?

>>162187631
Governments that give discounts for anything influence related are always good. Governments that give military bonuses are good if you plan on fighting. Bonuses on land warfare are obviously inferior here. Governments that give extra core planets are mostly meh.

>>162188438
Plutocratic Oligarchy vs. Indirect Democracy?

>>162188929
Both look really good. Plutocratic oligarchy has less elections but I can't remember if it has these missions that you have to make good on campaign promises. Because in an indirect democracy you get missions that you'll have to build 4 mining stations or research station during a term and get 250 influence in exchange. With that much influence you can expand quickly.

>>162188929
I'd say oligarchy would be better during mid and endgame and indirect democracy would be better early on. But you can make them both work.

>>162187617
It's shit, that's why.

>>162189870
Wouldn't it be the reverse, with Oligarchy helping you to get your economy up and running, and Indirect Democracy eventually giving you three-star leaders?

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>mfw wants to reinstall Stellaris to make a Space Waifu empire again
>but last time I played, the others empires were all at -200 relationship with me
>and ambassadors were still a thing back then

>>162187564
That doesn't make sense. Why would they need to be friends with me to make that kind of call? You can't even threaten them to give you system or offer to buy it off them as a neutral party. So fucking stupid.

>>162187631
I'd argue that the two happiness boosting ones are the best two governments but only by a very small margin.

>>162190175
Honestly it would've been better to have the option displayed but greyed out with an explanation as to why you can't
Or just make it all available, its not like other options cant result in -1000 deal acceptance

Intimidation/trade demands will hopefully be added in the future

>>162190081
No because of the influence bonus of you get every for years you can expand really fast with the democracy. While the 5 percent bonus on energy and minerals really isn't much early on. Early on a valuable system with lots of energy and/or minerals easily outweighs the 5 percent bonus.

>>162190383
Direct Democracy?

Yes, maybe...

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I need help bros I won a war against some xenos and right after that when I was broke as fuck my neighbour gave me an offer that I either become his vassal or get fucked up even more and then become vassal. So I agreed. Its been a few years how do I become independent again? I have no chance of catching up to this motherfucker in technology or fleet size and he is growing RAPIDLY

>>162190385
It won't matter til they make the AI less retarded and able to make decisions based on strategic and economic advancement rather than ideological presets.

>>162190591
And theocratic republic, the food consumption thing doesn't seem great but I remember working out in my last game it combined with the upped food production from happy pops was saving me 2 farms on my biggest planets leaving more room for power plants.

>>162190589
I meant every four years. Each election when you make good on your leaders campaign promises you get 250 influence and early on that is a lot.

>>162190589
Industrious & Thrifty?

>>162190685
Would be nice if that was a difference in rulers
one could make decisions based on ideoligy because they are big on that.
Meanwhile a leader with an economic/corporate fatcat background would go for economic deals, and a military leader for strategically sound deals

Indirect Democracy, combined with two technologies, eventually raises your default leader level to 5.

That's an insane bonus.

>>162190845
The bonuses oligarchy gives you. Those bonuses still are 5 percent to energy and minerals right? And 25 percent off constuction cost for mining stations, that is actually really helpfull early on.

>>162190975
nope

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/star-deal

Is this the cheapest DW:U has been?

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>playing distant worlds
>empire is military dictatorship of bug people
>start in the corner of the galaxy
>expansion route blocked by peaceful rodent guys
>they immediately dislike me for my government and because I'm insectoid
>impose trade sanctions on me
>whatever, I can still colonise my space
>a couple of months later two colonies of theirs pop up in my space
>fucking rat people
>had some ships left in one of them from clearing pirates ready to colonise it
>immediately get a message "Please remove your military from our space"
>time for retribution
>go to war
>annex their closest colonies, ruthlessly put down multiple rebellions
>destroy their space stations and mining colonies
>force them to become my protectorate
>peace loving democracy crushed between the iron rule of my dictatorship
>a few months later they send an envoy
>"Our people chafe under your rule. Please set us free!"
>"No"
>"This makes us sad"
Good. You did this to yourself.

can you grow a city to size 10, build 4 districts, then starve the city back down to size 2? and keep the districts?

>>162185696
They should make more BFME games, they could have taken advantage of the hobbit's popularity.

>>162193961
I assume yes, but why would you want to do that?

>>162191435
No?

Is Stellaris fun if I want to play against the AI? How long are games?

>>162191435
Why not?

That's a +10% happiness bonus to governors, combat bonuses to generals and admirals, research bonuses to scientists.

It's not a negligible thing.

>>162194225
at size 2 it needs no amenities

>>162193981
And the game itself was kinda fun.
The only beef I have with it is that dwarves don't have bows, instead they throw axes, Mordor doesn't have walls (despite the Black Door being a thing), and Rohirrims are mixed with Gondor.

>>162194470
I didn't realize that you were unable to get level 5 leaders without +leader skills.
Could've sworn you could earn experience with them somewhow.

>>162194658
Trade for some amenities then, more people means more yields. Considering the time it takes to grow then shrink a city, you might as well keep them anyways

>>162194914
I always thought it made sense since Sauron's army was using encampments in contrast to humans that actually lived there, Dwarves should have had crossbows imo and iirc Gondor's calvary was called something else though I played the Spanish version so it may be different.

>>162194984
Yeah, but this way makes their loss completely irrelevant, because they're all the same level.

There's no downtime at all.

>>162195387
>Dwarves should have had crossbows imo
Probably not, since they're associated with Isengard, but even short bows would make more sense than throwing axes.
I mean, the dwarves's towers are throwing axes. That's ridiculous.

As for the Mordor's encampement, well, I think of Barad-Dûr.

>>162194469
The games are so long that it's impractical to play if you have anything else to do in your life. If you're at that point then Stellaris is fun enough.

>>162194984
You'd suggest Direct Democracy, then? Indirect Democracy also ensures that they don't develop negative traits.

So, I'm thinking of starting as a Democracy and then transitioning into a Plutocratic Oligarchy at some point, but in order to do so I couldn't be Fanatic Individualist. If I went with Fanatic Materialist, would the loss of happiness be worth it?

>>162197942
Could you put that in hours? For example I don't mind spending 2 or so weeks playing a Civ game.

>>162199561
You spend two entire weeks playing Civ?

>>162175302
>Get Ethic & Government Rebuilt and choose Divine Imperium.
>I don't know how people play without it.
How does the AI function with it?

Is it fine or even more retarded?

>>162203078
Just as in vanilla, but the AI has more ethics to choose from when generating random AI empires, and certain governments are more restrictive. You'll always have at least one government to choose from, though.

If you combine it with More AI Personalities you can have a more varied experience when meeting new empires, though some personalities will tend to spawn more than others since they don't weren't made to work together.

>>162204254
You don't have to worry about the AI picking weird personalities. They always fit according to their ethics.

>>162203078
The paradox made empires don't get any of the new ethics so they might be a bit gimped, but otherwise random empires seem fine.

These constant changes to core gameplay mechanics in Stellaris are pissing me off.

Niggas, you should have your shit down by end of beta and then just do bugfixes

>>162204765
>paradox

>>162204765
At least they're improvements.

I get the impression that the sector mechanic exists in order to reduce the player's micromanagement burden, but so far the result has been the opposite.

>>162205240
It's cause they can't code an AI to save their lives. There's not a single decent AI in the game.

>>162093468

What's this game?

>>162205762
Cossacks 3.

>>162205307
Even if the AI was good it doesn't change the fact that the easiest way to access a spaceport is from its planet, and the planet gets removed from the list once you sector it out.

>>162199780
±20 hours games, 4-6 sessions since I get tired and don't play daily.

I kinda wish there were more mechanics that could create civil wars and internal conflicts inside your empire.

Would be interesting if the political system in Stellaris had rooms for coups, betrayals, political backstabbing and independence claims. The existing mechanics are pretty shit considering they only occur if you massively fuck up for decades on various planets, and even then they're piss easy to resist.

For instance, when you control half the fucking galaxy, you end up pretty fucking bored, internal events and conflicts, trying to keep control of your territory might spice things up a bit.

I also kinda want to have AI empires that 'sprout' from your empire that are the same species and start off very friendly but are independent states. A little bit like private colonies, depending on if your policies.

>>162206881
Supposedly next patch will improve how factions work.

>>162206881

I beleive the 'divided loyalties' mod adds in factions, of which there are cartels (I think he eventually wants to add space piracy to this), miner guilds, merchant houses and corporations.
Not keeping these groups in check can lead to them refusing to pay taxes or going on strike or even legally locking all yeild from a particular world, or in the case of cartels, leaving them unchecked will be a massive drain on resources but sometimes it's just not worth dealing with them.

Corporations and Merchant Guilds can demand exclusive trading rights, which gives bonuses and maluses to yeild from particular planets.

However the more interesting stuff comes from corporations. A corparation can be bought out, dismantled by the state or allowed to run free, but will eventually start refusing to pay taxes if they get powerful enough.

This can be sidestepped by simply selling that planet to the corparation, creating a tributary vassal inside your empire that is owned by a faction. They won't pay tax but they will maintain the planet whilst paying you your tribute.

>>162207621
I use Divided Loyalties.

I requires Alphamod, that is only for Autismus Maximus like myself, and the corporations only appear if you allow Private Property through policies. Even then you still need to build the building they reside on a planet, and they aren't really that much of a political threat.

>>162206501
What stellaris sectors need is a mandate system. You go to sector management and push a button to place an order for a certain number of spaceships, and the sector AI builds the ships from your spaceports. 70 corvettes in like, three clicks and a couple of keystrokes, rather than over seventy fucking clicks.

>>162193492
Glad you enjoy that message, youll be seeing it forever.

>>162208147

>and the corporations only appear if you allow Private Property through policies.

Ah, I see.

The last game I did was running a fanatical materialist/militarist empire and for whatever reason I was getting absolutely no corporations. I don't think private property was forbidden but it might've been.

Unless you need individualism to access free market policy/private property as an empire.

>>162208397
You probably need it. If you use if you use Ethic & Government Rebuilt make sure you get the Alphamod compatible version.

>>162206816
Stellaris seems to take at least twice as long, but if you're playing 4x games then your time isn't valuable.

>>162209503
It's that or watching anime, I choose my own poison.

>>162209727
>choosing videogames over anime
It's always a mistake, anon.

1-4 play a new stellaris game
5-9 play a new civ game
0 play Stronghold

>>162210365
1-4 play as Cleopatra
5-9 plays as Catherine
0 play as Kongo

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>>162210365
>>162210478

play stronghold

it'll be more rewarding

>>162210694
He can't decide. Only the essentially-random number is allowed to decide.

>>162204765

It feels like a pre-alpha release. Not just because of the constant changes, but diplomacy, planet management and armies literally feel like placeholders.

>>162211215
Look at all other paradox games at release and now, they are totally different. They release unfinished games to sell the rest as dlc

>>162194469

Insanely fucking long because the midgame on it sucks dicks and feels like doing chores. The earlygame is great so it will keep baiting you into wasting your time like a retard again and again.

Then endgame hits and youre doing nothing but waiting 10 year ceasefires to annex 2 planets every war and you quit unless youre a masochist

>>162211361
At least the massive core changes/fixes are coming in patches and not dlc though. Which is a silver lining I guess.

>>162211717
For now, until they decide they've fixed it up to release standard and start charging for everything else

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>>162130515

>playing as a fanatic pacifist/xenophile run with the smiley starfishes
>wedged into two fallen empires and two hegemonic empires, on an all-advanced start
>befriend and build up like a mad cunt, uplift 4 species
>somehow manage to hold despite in constant wars
>finally manage to come out on top through lot of kind words, befriending and kinetic batteries
>by far I'm the largest power in the galaxy, slowly consuming vassals
>neighboring xenophile FE wakes up
>gives me ultimatum
>"lol fuck off"
>200k doomfleet shows up, trashes my 80k fleet, luckily I had a gorillion defensive pacts and they take plates from allies instead
>enter military buildup mode like its 1938
>take on other FE and minors while the truce lasts
>realize they have SEVERAL 200k doomfleets and they are gobbling up the rest of the galaxy fast
>they go aganist softer targets even when the truce expires
>I have to keep up and keep invading more and more neighbors to liberate them
>building up for the fated confrontation, literally researching jump drives and sentient AI the same time, I will need every possible advantage
>mfw I realize its literally Good vs Good racing who can bring peace to the galaxy faster

Playing a Direct Democracy/large, multi-species empire.

Do I go with Charismatic/Industrious/Thrifty with Nonadaptive and Sedentary, or Charismatic/Communal/Quick Learners/Sedentary? Or I could choose Nonadaptive again and get a point back for genetic engineering.

What do you think?

Is 'Nomadic' worth investing in?

>>162213128

Its only good if you have a huge, single species empire because new colonies fill up sanic fast and your original planets will quickly regenerate their pops.

>>162213272
But if I'm multi-species, best to avoid it and let everyone settle where they're the most comfortable?

>>162213559

Then you may have retards migrating to biomes they hate(great AI paradox) and because every species has its own separate pop growth but the overall growth rate is divided between them you may end up with greyed out pops squatting tiles for a decade or more.

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>>162213559

>multi-species

WHY HAS NO ONE STARTED A FOUNDATION MOD FOR STELLARIS YET???

>>162213801
>>162213880
>>162213801
>>162213880
I haven't had problems like that before.

I'm just trying to choose better traits this time; my primary species may not end up being the most numerous, but I do have to spend the early game with them.

Do you have any suggestions?

>>162209727
>>162209927
>not having dual monitors
faaaaaaags

playing on normal speed while fapping to Keijo is the the best

j/k I watch Keijo for the shonen sports

>>162213880
Racial purity memes aside I really can't see any benefit in having a multi species empire it's just too much of a hassle having ethics be all over the place.

>>162214942
a what?

>>162215269
That's no problem when you're playing a Fanatic Individualist Direct Democracy. Your pops are happy no matter what you do.

>>162215293
Asimov's Foundation trilogy about a pan-galactic human empire that reached the height of it's decadency and is starting to plunge into 10.000 years of dark ages.

One scientist uses mathemagics to foresee this and starts a science colony on a single planet as the seed for a new empire of enlightenment. The way the individual short stories are written would lend themselves excellently to a customized game on a fixed map.

>>162215526
So, basically, 'what if a big enough library could prevent the Dark Ages following the fall of Rome?'

>>162215479
Fanatic Individualist is basically the get out of jail free card of ethics.

Your society is militaristic and hates aliens? Whatever, go do you thing in my empire everyone can do as he pleases.

Now, they'll suffer some unhappiness because they can't outright purge the xenos, but at least I'm not forcibly re-educating them

>>162215670
What if you use a Mind-Control Laser?

>>162215220
If I wanted to fap while playing a 4x game, I would fap to Queen Victoria.

>>162215662
Funny you should say that because Asimov wrote the trilogy after reading The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and the very first thing happening in the series of short stories which make up the first book is the scientist petitioning for funding to create a what basically amounts to the biggest library in the universe.

>>162215670
It basically makes Deviant a free point -- what do you care if your pops have different ethics?

>>162215778
>What if you use a Mind-Control Laser?
yes

>>162212536
How many people are dying in this project of bringing peace to the galaxy?

How do you format mods from the stellaris mega properly? Been fiddling with it awhile but can't seem to remember how to do it.

>>162215269
Other species only exist to settle on other biomes. Things that live where humans live can fuck off.

>>162215269

It just feels more sci-fi to have this bustling federation of rubber foreheads and CGI penis monsters. Also, atleast it gives something to do. I also like being able to just colonize every planet off the start and uplifting races. It adds up so well, sciece loving shrooms working on lab-covered science planet, dumb ass but insane strong uplifted roaches work the FUCK out of tomb world mines, while ice loving shifty jewish cats make big gains, all in the same empire

Giving up outlawing migration and individually gene-tailoring populations on planets is a huge loss though.

>>162215269
>>162216259
I roleplay humans from Existence by David Brin

I uplift everything I see and give full rights to AI. Anything that wants to declare itself human is allowed to do so.

>>162216319
I think migration is my biggest gripe as the pops just fuck off to places the have no business going to.

>>162216414
they really need to fix migration attraction or allows us to forcibly resettle even with free migration turned on

>>162215662
if you haven't read it, do read it

it's the book that's influenced me the most in my life