/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

How do I get good at Tropico?

>>161808798
Right, infantry, I thought about vehicles, my bad senpai
We really need /rtsg/ back, but then again it'd just die within a week, and this isn't the best place to discuss RTS games, unless people would agree to a merge with a long ded general

>all these aliens in Stellaris
>I keep defaulting to playing humans
send help

>>161808843
Not a 4x, try /v/.

>>161808867
We already agreed to merge /civ4xg/ with /rtsg/ and /cbg/. We just can't change the thread's name because it triggers /gsg/.

>>161808887
You're keeping it pure, there's no shame in that frendo

You are going xenophobic and militaristic right?

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>>161808912
>We already agreed to merge /civ4xg/ with /rtsg/
Oh?
Damn you just made my day anon

>>161808891
What the fuck is that?

>>161808912
No we did not.

You can make rtsg or cbg again if you want.
No one is stopping you.

>>161808968
I'm not joking, we briefly tried to change from a 4x general to a strategy general.
It was quickly followed by someone on /gsg/ saying we were stealing their spotlight, and a huge amount of willy wanking spam.

Nowadays, now that CivVI is out, all the kids are back and decided to change the rules despite a consensus being made.

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>>161808937
fanatic spiritualist and militaristic actually

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>>161808970
One of the new Tanks the Tank General gets in Contra
That one is IIRC the Manticore with 2 cannon that fire like a gattling gun
Shreds everything, even air

>>161808968
>that high unit density
Please tell me that guy got fucking smashed by arty

>>161808912
>/cbg/
wtf is /cbg/

>>161809139
That cannon looks like it comes out of Rise of Legends.

>>161809072
>all the kids are back and decided to change the rules despite a consensus being made
If all the kids are here this just means there's no consensus anymore.

>>161808968
A couple of people who didn't care about 4x wanted to talk about other games.
They didn't want to go to /v/, so when the next thread was coming around they created a new general.
Some other people just wanted civ4xg and another civ4xg thread was created anyway. The new general died and people came back to civ4xg

>>161809196
city builder general

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Heroes units are so fucking insane in the C&C games. A shame it still get killed by a dog. What a really shitty death.

Not as bad as that online online game I saw where Yuriko get her throat torn by a bear.

>>161809282
niggas come on

RTS I can somewhat understand, but Sim City? Come on

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Is Polaris Sector a 4X or just RTS?

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spaghetti bolognese is the bomb nigga

best gaming food tbqh

the long noodles going down my throat

all warm and squishy

>Flatter on Montezuma

>>161808912
No one agreed to shit. Report all off topic posts.

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I like Seven Kingdoms 2.
It deserved a sequel.

>>161811767
What

Why would a general have an uzi? That's a gangsta weapon. And why is that moron posing for the picture with a nuke in the background? And why isn't he asian? And why the horns? And WHY EVERYTHING

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>>161811875
Russians
thats why

>Extra races DLC for nu-MoO sells for 10 dollarydoos at GOG
>Steam split it into 3 separate dlcs 9 euro apiece
what went wrong?

>>161811936
>russian
>chinese
What

>all these nukes
[urge to run to a vault intensifies]

>>161812001
Nevermind. They show as three separate entries in the store but are actually one package. Price is the same.

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>>161812034
Contra
crazy mod made by russians
also yeah that guy has nukes in everything
Red Guard: Nuke Bullets
Dragon Tank: shoots radiation
Overlord: Nuclear ATGM
etc
Also Death Hand which is an unlimited range Nuke Cannon

>>161812164
>Death Hand which is an unlimited range Nuke Cannon
Woah. That doesn't sounds unbalanced at all (sarcasm).
Also I'm certain the name Death Hand was already used in Battle for Dune.

>>161812164
If you thinks nukes are bad, play Call To Power 2. There's an unit, the Eco Terrorist, who completely destroy towns. I'm not kidding, he literally erases the entire town from existence.

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>this entire thread

>>161812892
/v/ called. They want their weeaboos memes back.

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>>161812941
Why would /v/ be calling and not /a/ or /jp/?

>>161808912
Fuck off.

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I'm so fucking dead, the awakened midgame are over 200k and that's just the fleets in this system.

>>161813024
Because bitching, whining and crying instead of talking about games is stuff /v/ does.

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>>161812237
>balance
>in something made by russians
never played World of Tanks or something?

What's the most op war domination strategy in Civ VI?

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>>161813142
I don't really like games where you have no way to recover your losses.

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>>161813068
>FE is decimating my only ally, and I can't join the war because the attack was on a 3rd empire my friends were defensive pact with

I've counted over 300k in fleet, what do?

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>>161813094
This thread has almost no posts about 4X games, why would you discuss them here?

>>161813289
Surrender.
Commit sudoku.
Swear loyalty to them.

>>161813289
>closing in on 2400
Why don't you have 4 digit physics?

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>>161813326
tfw attempting to fund someone else's war to better my chances

is there a game as autistic as Aurora but actually playable?

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>GLA tries it: Making a Baneblade

>>161813248
losses are expected and you can quickly make money thanks to to being able to build you money giving building without the tech structure

>>161813385
Good luck.

>>161813387
DISTANT WORLDS might be up your alley, as DISTANT WORLDS is very complete, and allows you to do a lot of things, but DISTANT WORLDS also suffers from a lack of communication, since DISTANT WORLDS doesn't explain much and in DISTANT WORLDS, everything is automated from the start, so DISTANT WORLDS pretty much plays by itself.
However, in DISTANT WORLDS, you can play as a pirate.

>>161813419
Yeah, but games like Ground Control where losing an uni may make you lose the war is really stressful.

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>>161813464
Yeah but isnt Ground Control more similar to Company of Heroes or World in Conflict where you have to micro alot instead of spamming the heaviest unit you have and A move towards the enemy base like it is in C&C?

>>161813597
No, Ground Control is about starting with a handful of units, and progressin on a linear map. Like that other games, Myths, or something.
Not really strategy, just tactic. So just 2X : explore and exterminate.

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Which game has the most satisfying walls?
Red Alert 3 has some nice walls, but they're so fragile they're basically just cosmetic.

I heard they look decent in Civ6, but walls are completely useless in these turn-based games.

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tfw out of bait empires, I will see you soon brothers.

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Anyone wanna play civ V Vox populi mp with me?
Add me up on steam if you want to
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Ihateyounahjk/

>>161814530
>that moustache

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When does this shit expire?

These niggas would fucking love me if not for the fact that like 50 years ago they wanted me to become their vassals. I have a sweet federation set up now and they would perfectly fit in, but because of their own dickishness they refuse.

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>>161814529

>>161814709
It wont expire, eventually you will end up at war with them,

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>>161814530
come on

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>>161814759
help

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>>161814508
I kinda like Cossacks walls
You got shitty wooden Palisades that units can fire through and you got nice stone walls

>>161814881
Don't they require some kind of upkeep?

>>161814529
look at those sluts

>>161814802
That's pretty bullshit. So all I can do is liberate them and then offer the new empire a slot in my federation?

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>>161814508

>>161814960
Nope

>>161815095
These walls makes me moist and delicious inside.
That game had the best siege machines ever.

>>161815252
Not him, but they actually do, through I'm unsure why. Building palissades constantly drains your wood, and walls drains your stone, but running out of it doesn't seem to do anything.

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mfw I didn't even need to enslave others to further my colonization

>>161815783
>he still has people with positive opinion of him

>>161815943
They're all pathetic and I use them for trade, I plan to vassal them slowly.

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>>161813142
>>balance
>>in something made by russians
Balance is a capitalist pig-dog invention to keep fun down and the plebs oppressed.

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>>161814508
>walls are completely useless in these turn-based games.
Say that to my face online in Age of Wonders 3, see what happens!

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>>161816705
yeah sure lets roll with that

I haven't been in here for a while, are we still posting pig memes

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>>161817025
You come from a past we do not speak of!

>>161816817
female rogue, female mage, maaaybe female dreadnaught

Anyone know of a simple hex map editor?

I just want a tool that covers x amount of hexes to more easily see how many cities a tile covers for AoE bonuses.

year 2405, I just realized I can terraform planets, I have shamed my people.

>>161817858
only non-colonized planets

>>161817025
we are fond of pig memes

>>161818485
post em

>>161817025
rts games are the new meme

Oi you Stellaris guys, do you want a trait mega mix mod? Basically every trait mod I can find my grubby hands on, I put in a blender, and fix them as much as I can. Who wants some?

>>161818714
I want a good game.

do vassals give up resources to my empire like a sector would?

>>161818937
Eh, too bad, here mod.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/54cxtzfx7kmpmcv/Traits%20Mega%20Mix.zip?dl=0

>>161815783
This reminds me, my fungoid space jews have created not one, but two sub-species on a single planet of my empire. Said planet is also home to the most xenophobic populations.
It's fun to watch the dumpster fire.

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My influence is almost neutral, how the fuck do I deal with these factions without the ability to purge?

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Time for superior Air Power

>>161820076
>cap over a helmet
What the fuck are russians people smoking?

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>>161820242
Dunno

>>161820272
You make me wish I could reinstall Generals. I miss being able to heal my infantry and being able to get more money from buildings.

is there any real-time 4x? i'm tired as fuck of civlizations and all the shitty rip-offs

>>161820076
Is this some kind of mod? I've never played C&C

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>>161820358
You on W10 or something?

>>161820780
Yeah
Contra version 007 for Generals Zero Hour

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>>161817793
Now if I could only find a tool that lets me brush with a larger size.

I think I'm gonna have to use the civ5 editor to plan in civ6.

>>161820896
Just don't have the CD anymore.

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>>161821058
Ah that sucks
and all the torrents are probably dead so you cant even get it that way

>>161821367
If possible, I'd rather get it legit. And get the expansion too, since I never played it, but that's not on Steam and not on GoG.

How the fuck do the AI works in Red Alert 3?
>play Inland Arena or whatever it's called
>AI just makes the occasional conscript

>play snowdrift
>same exacty AI
>starts rushing me with bears and anti-infantry vehicles before I can even build a raffinery

No, in fact, how does the AI works in every strategy game?

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smallest Superweapon building ever

>>161813387
The original Star Ruler.

>>161822080
Wait, I got it. The AI is retarded.

It will try to capture ressources that are near, and only when these will be under control, it will start building units.
In the arena map, you spawn with 4 ore deposits, so the AI tries to capture them before building troops and can be easily rushed. In snowdrift, there are only 2 ore deposits, so the AI capture his immediately and start pumping units.

I thought I finally understood how to play Red Alert 3, but it turns out I was just exploiting the AI. That's a bit depressing.

>>161820626
Check out Star Ruler 2 if you can handle it playing differently to every 4X you've ever played (unless you were big on 4X in the mid-90s I guess) and not having great documentation.

>>161822340
I already have Star Ruler 2 (got it for free, took the expansion later). Kinda fun but the fights are pretty meh.

>>161822506
Maybe check out Sorcerer King then?

>>161822540
Disclaimer: It's not a great game. But it is different to the usual fare.

Fanatic militarist and xenophobe or fanatic xenophobe and militarist?

Also a military dictatorship or despotic empire for this race?

>>161822540
If I can find a demo, yeah. The reviews on Steam aren't encouraging, so I'd like to try it first.

I'd like something straightforward, like a normal RTS where you send your troops to fight, but with all the depth of an actual 4X. Disciples 3 has some really neat stuff (unit progression with interesting and original ideas) but the combat was bad.

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>>161821679
Well it is on Origin

>>161823035
Urgh. The idea of creeating any another account somewhere doesn't really pleases me.
I'll see if I can get it on amazon or something and try Origin if the price is shit.

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>>161823471
>amazon
No dont do this to yourself
last time I checked it was like 70€ just for Zero Hour alone

>be in pacifist federation
>only allowed liberation wars
>"liberate" neighbouring kingdom
>force vassalization
>integrate into my empire
but I'm considered the good guy

top kekl

>>161823807
Dammit, getting old games is such a pain in the ass.

>>161823963
God bless America

>>161823471
EA will probably have a sale close to christmas on the entire c&c anthology

Right now the prices aren't really high, but because I have them in my currency, I can't give you one in USD/Euro
But if a Pole like me can gen all c&c games under equivalent of 25 euros, I bet the EU price will be around 30-40 euros for all games

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>>161824198
Gonna move to Poland to buy these.

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>>161824352
Not worth it
The job prospects are shit
Language is hard to learn, and without it you're basically fucked in 69 different ways
Everyone will hate you just because you're a foreigner

But hey, our population is 99.9% white, all nigs you see are most likely playing in local basketball team.
But seriously, don't bother

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Holy shit is there anything in Stellaris that isn't riddled in rng?

I'm covertly infiltrating an industrial age planet and every. single. fucking. popup has been a "failure" putting be back 20%.
Am I missing something or just getting shit on by paradox yet again?

In what way is there more depth in regards to the diplomacy in EUIV compared to Stellaris?

I'm already enjoying the fuck out of my options in Stellaris, but I wouldn't mind upgrading.

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>>161824561
What a shame.

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Don't question my ways

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>>161824198
amazon.com says otherwise
https://www.amazon.com/Command-Conquer-Generals-Zero-Hour-Expansion/dp/B0000C0YNT

I dont even know why this is so expensive
AoE Collectors Edition is 12$ for comparision

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>>161824624
>he doesn't save scum

>>161824728
And while we're still on the price part, they might seem low to you, because you earn in a currency that's worth a shit, but with how much people earn here, that is a normal, quite reasonable price they ask for those games.
>>161824834
Yeah well that's Amazon, meanwhile Orijew is cheap, but it's a digital version, which might get 50% or more discount in a week or two.

>>161824897
Ha. Makes sense.

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>>161824884
I am iron man.

>>161824624
nah, just unlucky

but even still if you keep at it you'll eventually gain control, it just takes longer

>>161822080
>>161822226
>2016
>playing red alert 3

must suck to have autism

Is Majesty a 4x?

>>161827598
no

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purple = cities
shades of orange = industrial
red = colosseum
green = entertainment

So, having a successful Cultists match is almost entirely up to chance or am I missing something?

>>161819454

Make them happy, make them quiet, or make them dead.

>>161823963
Liberation is underrated.

>>161828879
Not exactly a chance, but you need to fulfill a lot of things to roflstomp the game. Not as bad as civ5 Venice at least.

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Oh lordy

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>my tanks only have an AP rocket to defend themself
Oh boy this is going to be fun

>>161829696
Are you playing some old ass Contra version? The newest one doesn't have all that garbage portraits.

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>>161829887
Yes version 007

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I'm at a loss on how to proceed. Green is me, purple is the 4 empire federation I'm part of, teal is associates.

There's only 1 empire that's stronger than any single one of my allies and that's the rival in the "northern" part of the galaxy.

Do I just divide and conquer while settling the unclaimed space to the left of me?

idk

>>161830925
just colonize more
settle all the planets
also settle southeast of boki star kingdom

>influence +1
what's eating your inf?

>>161831686
>what's eating your inf?
just finished integrating a vassal, he's got outposts I haven't disbanded yet

>>161831957
Why aren't you building anything on caspar, harmony and hossack btw?

>>161833061
fully developed on the ground and until a moment ago I was way over my fleet cap before I finished integrating my vassal so I didn't really know what else to build

>>161831865
They ate crack when they made superweapons.

>>161833319
Then sector the fully developed planets off as you colonize more worlds.

You have 12k minerals you can use on new worlds to develop.

well once you have influence

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>>161833352
Thats a rank 5 ability
The particle cannon is actually pretty bad (damage and speed wise)

>>161833545
They still ate crack and you won't convince me otherwise.

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>>161833858
Never said otherwise
but I myself find it pretty tame

So, any other worthwhile fleet compositions other than massed plasma cruisers?

>>161834805
What game?

>>161834805
kinetic weaponry is a great alternative and corvettes still own everything until battleships show up

>>161835002
Stellaris

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Yeeeaaah

Yeeeaaah

>>161835219
Isn't it still gravity lance?

>>161835362
Lances got nerfed, they can't be mounted on L slots anymore. They need X-Slots now, which (i may be wrong on this one) a battleship can only have 1 of.
So no more lance spam.

>>161834805
I still spam vettes early game with kinetic weapons because even though the AIs started mixing armor and shields, it still seems to favor shields early on.

>Its another Filthy match where everyone concedes by turn 100 or becomes 'irrelevant' if they aren't top science
>Nothing ever happens and everyone just plays simcity until they let Filthy catch up and steamroll them because if they dare attack him early on (even when he has the weakest military) they get banned
>Like one match out of 30 so far they actually reached modern/information era technology and had their mind blown seeing all sorts of new stuff that wasnt fucking horsemen

>>161838714
Who's Filthy? He sounds like a Civ DSP.

>>161838714
people actually get banned?
I watched him play a bit in civ5 and never saw anyone getting banned for attacking him.

>>161838939
Thats because nobody has challenged the master yet. They sometimes have randoms come in but only for one match because they make the mistake of challenging the highlord.

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>tank general can build special factories that mass produce a certain unit
Spamtastic

>>161838714
>e-celebrity demands that his opponents play worse than the default Civ 6 AI
>you do it anyway
He's not the problem. His enablers are.

>>161839139
I'm gonna need a video of him trashtalking and banning a random, because frankly, it sounds like you're pulling this out of thin air.

>>161834805
Kinetic L slots and M plasma. Best fleet comp is spammed M unbidden weapons, though if you have them you could spam whatever the fuck you want since you already won.

Throw some flak cannons in there if you're fighting a FE or the scourge for their strike craft spam.

>>161840308
The war with his Brazil game 25. Then there was the one where he and a guy declared war on a guy playing China for moving troops around him borders and trashed him until he left. Trying to find that one but I feel like he was Egypt.

>>161841019
Both occasions had some guy using shitty units that stood no chance of winning (even to normal player terms) that were planning to rush him and fuck with him with no actual intent of winning cities.

>>161841343
What's wrong with that?

>>161841674
Doing something in a competition to fuck with someone that doesn't promote your own chances of winning is highly frowned upon in almost any game community. Its like team killing.

>>161841674
It's like throwing in fighting games.

>>161842013
So fucking around is not allowed? Gotta be a tryhard?

>>161843972
I need that "Its just a game" chess image. Imagine if you were having a swimming competition and one guy disliked another guy so he moved into his lane to block him even though it fucks both of them out of winning. You think people will just laugh it off as just a prank?

>>161844462
Dude, we're talking about a strategy game. Harassing and slowing your economy down is a entire aspect of playing. You don't have to be a genius to know if that you can't raise to someone's level, you drag him down to yours.

>>161845361
It's competitive. You can't do that unless you're going to win. Playing to lose means you shouldn't even be playing. Don't you even understand strategy gaming?

>>161841343
Step 1: Shit on him
Step 2: Farm xp

>>161845361
You harass someone in a strategy game because you intend to win by doing it. Its illogical to do something in a competitive environment that you KNOW will cause you to lose, even worse when its to spite someone else who does have a chance of winning. I know you're just gonna say "its just a video game mannn" like I said, but just because its a game doesn't mean you shouldn't treat the competition seriously.

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>have my strelets in front of a tower
>somehow, a few of them die when the tower shoots
Huh?

>>161845482
>You can't do that unless you're going to win
So you're saying you're only allowed to use backhanded strategy if you win, but if you do it and lose, then you're a scrub. Interesting double standards here.

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Oh yeah, and palissades are shit. Unlike what the tooltips say, they cost wood to maintain, and tower can't shoot through them.

>>161845631
Ultimately, all your arguments boils down to "you play MY way or you don't play", which is exactly what Filthy does and why he's scorned.

>>161845631
The only "rules" are the limitations set by the game itself.

>>161845631
You do realize that once they know they're fucked up, normal people don't curl into a ball and surrender?
There's a reason hunters make sure they always leave a door opened for the animals they hunt : a cornered animal will fight to the death. Why should players just roll up and die just because the're outclassed?

If you go down, go blazing.

>>161845810
Except literally any rational competitor in a competitive environment would call you out for that bad sportsmanship. The problem people have with Filthy is that he takes it to extremes and makes people actually able to win against him feel compelled to not try anyway. In the example provided it was not the case. The guy got obliterated and steamrolled with ease, but ultimately put both of them seriously behind because of it.

>>161845959
Rules can and should be set by competitors in the event and/or those hosting the event. If theres a chess tournament with special rules that you sign and acknowledge upon entering, you can't bitch about them when someone uses them.

>>161846148
Woah, I was not aware that playing against a Youtuber on a public server was automatically competitive.

>>161846074
But heres the thing. That has nothing to do with what happened. First off this was a game competition not a life and death struggle. Secondly, a terrible player taking the initiative to attack someone who they had no chance of winning against is not the same as defending. The guy could have kept going on his own strategy and maybe competing for the victory. Filthy obviously wasnt attacking him, it was the other way around. The guy realized that he was being outclassed by most other civs and decided "Hey since I cant win im gonna epic troll this e-celeb and ruin his chance of winning" which is just bad sport.

>>161845361
>if you can't raise to someone's level, you drag him down to yours.
Fuck sportsmanship. You try to complete your objectives or destroy the enemy though any means possible. Failing that, spite the enemy in any way possible. Let them know even the slightest taste of annoyance for just a few more moments before you lose. Make them hate you and despise you for dragging them with you to hell.

>>161846404
>implying people really care about that e-celeb bullshit online
The paranoia is real. People really weren't kidding when they said that Filthy is a little bitch with an overinflated ego and that his fans were retarded.

>>161846589
If you have a weapon, attack the enemy with it. If you only have your fists, punch the enemy. If you only have your feet, kick your enemy. If you only have your teeth, bite your enemy.

Giving up is for pussies.

>>161846686
Of course they are. There's only one way to play Civilizations, and it's Filthy's way.
Anything else is just you being a poor sport, a scrub, and a jealous little shit.

>>161846686
>Changing the subject

Get back here. It doesn't matter if it was done to another random. Its bad sportsmanship to do something in a competition to fuck over another person when you know you have already lost or doing so will cause you both to lose. This crazy argument wouldn't have ground anywhere outside of a place like this.

>>161846404
>"Hey since I cant win im gonna epic troll this e-celeb and ruin his chance of winning" which is just bad sport.
Anyone play the board game Cthulhu Wars? This reminds me of that, the board game had mechanics in place for players to end the game with eneryine losing and leave no winner.
Personally I like the idea. Fuck being honorable and all that shit. If you can take everyone out (including yourself) then you can at least say you denied victory to the enemy. That's a win in my book.

>>161846969
Once again you keep acting like this is some kind of real world life and death struggle and the connection just isn't there. Theres a difference between defending yourself and being in a competition and losing but sabotaging someone else for fun before you leave.

>>161847125
There's also Bomberman. One of the games allowed dead players to start throwing bombs on the field again.

>>161847024
>"what I don't like is bad sportmanship"
Lolno. You don't make the rules, so get off that high horse you have.

>>161847261
The people hosting the match make the rules, or in the case of that group they all vote on rules with +/- on certain mechanics and wonders. Im not sure if theres an expressed or implied rule on sportsmanship or rather its common sense. To most normal people its common sense, so in this case I supported their decision.

>>161847261
Literally any rational person you ask about sportsmanship would agree that doing something to sabotage someone else with the intent of taking you both out is bad.

>>161846969
>Giving up is for pussies.
I think the disconnect here is that I'm gathering the other anon yapping about sportsmanship thinks that intentionally throwing the game just to fuck someone over can be equivalated to giving up.
I agree with you, so long as any resources are at your disposal, any and all attempts should be made to drag them down. Even attempts that only hurt you. There's always the hope that your last few struggling kicks can unbalance a greater power to the point where that power can be taken out by another long after you are gone.
Giving up because the only options available will not result in victory is stupid. Especially in something like a video game-board game. It's for the story, and losing is fun.
Mind you, that's just my uneducated opinion.

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>>161847627
>The people hosting the match make the rules
Take a good look, everyone. This is what Filthy actually believes. It's not the devs that make the rules, it's the one hosting the match.
We finally understand why Filthy get offended everytime someone attacks him, as it's blasphemy and an attempt at deicide.

>>161846148
But has Filthy stated his "rules" somewhere?
If he hasnt and people break his 'rules' he shouldnt complain about people utilizing game mechanics
If they are clearly stated and someone disagrees, he's free to leave.

>>161847817
>keeps trying to tie this to Filthy

Yeah developers of games are the only one to set rules. Lets completely ignore how almost every online game ever lets players set the rules for their matches and even use mods to add new rules and restrictions to the game. If you join a "Handguns only match" in a FPS game and you blast people with your primary and get booted, you better not go onto the forums whining "THE DEVELOPERS SAID I COULD USE ANY WEAPON I WANT IN THEIR GAME" because you'll get blown out.

Okay, so let me recap.
- Filthy makes Civilizations video, and probably some mad dosh with it,
- he's also a complete scrub, and fails to understand basic mechanism while being unable to read tooltips, on a level that challenges DSP's stupidity,
- he organizes multiplayers matches, but only with his followers,
- in the rare case he accepts random people, they have to accept a shitload of made-up rules made on the spot to make sure they can't actually be relevant,
- if they fail to comply, they get trashtalk, harassed, and banned.
Am I forgetting anything?

>>161848197
Normally I'd agree with you, but in this case they were justified in trash talking the guy because he was just being scummy in general. Its not like they outright kicked him from the match, but he will probably never get invited back to play.

>>161848506
>NOT FIGHTING HONORABRU
Yeah, how dare people play differently! It's like these people using the grenade launcher in Call of Warfare : Electric Boogaloo! How dare they use a weapon that the devs put in?!

>>161848506
Hey, just asking, but is it "scummy" to use archers? Are you supposed to just use warriors?
What about siege engines?

>>161848605
Using grenade launchers to win is not the same thing. Since you used an FPS example let me help you out.

>Player joins a gungame match where they win by getting a kill with each weapon type, but using a knife on an enemy lowers their rank by one
>The guy uses the knife the entire match with no intention of winning, just stalking 1-2 specific people to epic troll them and keep them from winning

Now I mean sure you are allowed to do that (unless the server rules say otherwise), but don't be surprised when people trash talk the behavior and don't invite you to play again or outright kick you if you join later on because its just a waste of a slot.

>>161849035
>blaming someone else for your defeat
If you put your videos on Youtube, you should be good enough to win despite trolls like that.
Throwing a fit and banning them because they don't play your way is childish, but then again, we're talking about Filthy "what does that buttong do".

>movement changes made melee units irrelevant
>how dare you use archers!

>>161849035
That's not the same thing at all, numbnuts. A better comparaison would be...
>be playing L4D, on a deathmatch setting
>one guy get shot down, starts bleeding to death
>Filthy runs to him to kill him
>get shot in the face, get shot down too
>whines like a bitch about sore losers

>>161849165
Thats just not how video games work my man. E-celebs arent superhuman, especially when it comes to strategy games. You can't necessarily 'skill' your way into a strategy game victory against insurmountable odds like you can in a FPS game. If you're forced to spend tons of time building military to keep some guy off of you then chances are you literally physically can't go on to win against people who were able to safely build up their cities.

>>161849517
So you're confirming that Filthy just wants an easy win and doesn't want people to bully him.
Thanks for confirming it.

>>161849630
Well I imagine most people want that. The point is that you shouldn't attack someone without the intent to win in a competition. Thats all there is to it. He doesn't bitch when people who are actually threats try it.

>>161849630
>>161849850
How to play with Filthy :
- attacks are only allowed on 1500 AD, when everyone is fully developped,
- picking a faction with early advantage is not allowed,
- rushing is not allowed,
- attacking him directly is not allowed,
- moving your units near his borders is not allowed,
- killing his units is not allowed,
- going against his self-made rules is not allowed,
- you're only allowed to attack him when he's ready.
What a little bitch. Does he take inspiration from Civ6's AI to be a faggot?

>>161849501
Except he attacked Filthy, not the other way around. I don't play L4D so I don't know the mechanics well. In most games with a 'downed' state theres an incentive to fight back such as killing an enemy revives you, or theres a chance you could get revived by a friendly. It doesn't translate well into civ.

>>161850021
Well its not just him. Go online and play Sumeria. There is literally no counter to it if the person is playing well. Same with Scythia unless theres a Sumeria. You're exaggerating for the sake of argument without acknowledging how broken and unbalanced VI is right now to the point where agreed upon rules should be justified.

Is it a instant restart if you get a tundra start with anybody other then Russia? Im trying to start a game with Spain and twice now ive gotten tundra.

>>161850352
Ask Filthy if reroll is allowed.

>>161850021
Sounds about right.

>>161850115
So yeah, attacking Filthy is not allowed.
If you attack him, you're just a scrub wanting his 5 minutes of glory.

>>161850405
Attacking anyone you statistically cant win against isn't allowed. I am legit fine with that rule.

>>161850513
Of course you're fine with your own rules, Filthy.

>>161850559
Crushed like a wave against stone. Rain in the forest. You are no more. When will I find a real challenger here?

>>161850640
Oh, fuck off, Lu Bu.
I don't understand why you're so so popular, you're just a retard getting manipulated by everyone who has boobs or money.

>>161850817
I like you. Lets agree to disagree and stop talking about e-celebs.

>>161850876
I won't stop hating Filthy for his hypocrisy and his stupidity, but I think we can agree that we won't agree.

>>161848197
Filthy is pretty fucking bad at game theory in general desu.
He's one of those people who think you shouldn't take a 50/50 deal with another player in a FFA game because "oh it gets that one other player as much as I get so it's not good".

>>161848197
>le mad dosh youtube meme
At his level, Filthy is lucky if he is getting his vidya subsidized. It takes a million views to make 21k .

just played my first es2 game as sowers
there was a route i couldn't take but i colonized the rest of space that i could reach and just grew for a while
then hissho came through the route i couldn't take and killed me
pretty alright game but i don't know how the heck to counterplay the ai when it comes to cards

>>161852727
what
That's fucking retarded. Does he even understand how trade work?

>>161853307
Meanwhile I make less than 1k, so cry me a fucking river.

>>161853508
>Does he even understand how trade work?
no

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>>161808724
>ally with a civ
>they send 1-2 units and sit them on tiles near my cities for 30 turns

what is this meme

>play settler because i legitimately hate the game and just want to finish a single game
>ai still declares multiple surprise wars on you on the same turn
F U C K O F F

>>161850513
wtf

part of knowing how to play FFA is how to talk the other players into doing attacks that are beneficial for you, but cripple both the other two players involved. If I make a deal with another guy to attack a 3rd party I don't care who loses because I will end up winning either way.

If this filthy guy is too scrub to master actual diplomacy with humans involved he shouldn't be playing ffa online

>>161850513
>statistically cant win against isn't allowed. I am legit fine with that rule.
I think this is a stupid but I honestly can't really come up with a way to say why other than it makes sense in my head.

I dunno. For me, unpredictability adds more fun to a game. There's merit in trying to make the biggest, tallest tower, that I recognize completely. But sometimes it's fun to topple both your tower and your opennent's tower.
I guess that's it for me. Fun is more important that just another win to add the statistics.

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>>161809135
My nigger!

>>161855598
when you're in the lead you have to live with everyone else teaming up to take you down. Someone else will end up up top and then you can team up with everyone else to take on him.

>>161856276
Oh you mean diplomacy?
Nah. I'm way too paranoid to even begin to think about trusting an actual human being, let alone one that I'd play anonymously against.
Solo to the frequent bitter end.

>>161850513
The problem is that 'anyone you statistically can't win against' is defined by Filthy as 'anyone who attacks me'. If you're in the lead, go to war and take someone else's city from them why would that necessitate you no longer being in the lead? But in Filthy's games, any time anyone attacks anyone (or really, any time anyone attacks Filthy) they're trashed for 'throwing the game' when that attack might be exactly what puts them in the lead.

And in terms of sportsmanship, there's one game where there are three remaining players including Filthy - him and another guy want to call it a three-way draw, but the other guy is close to a Space victory and thinks he can win. Filthy and the other guy then agree to team up on him, take him out when he's three turns from winning, and then declare a two-way draw instead. Which is obviously just shitty.

>>161858496
So he is the Civ AI in human form? Science has gone too far

>>161857780
>Nah. I'm way too paranoid to even begin to think about trusting an actual human being, let alone one that I'd play anonymously against.
Who says you have to trust them? You just need to manipulate them well enough.

>>161855346
It's the "One part of my code tells me to surprise attack you while another says we're friends and I'm not supposed to" episode. Had it happen to me couple of times. As if VI AI was not schizophrenic enough.

Also
>make some civ OC some years back and post it on 4chan
>search for a picture of Montezuma because that's who was doing it to me last game
>said OC is in google image search results
>reddit.com

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>>161859689
aaand I never posted monty in the end.

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>>161859689
>make reaction image
>be happy when you see it used around even years later
>but it's usually attached to shitposts or negative opinions

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has anyone had problems with endless legend recently? im only getting 5 fps and i have not changed anything.

>>161813068
>29 energy 550 minerals
>not focusing on nothing but energy and then just trading them off at an enclave
>4/5 planets

Might as well get Jumpdrives and call for the unbidden to assfuck everyone.

>>161860397
Have you tried seeing if your graphics card/cpu is overheating? Like when was the last time you cleaned the dust out of your computer.

>>161808968
What are some rts games with Rise of Nations/Dawn of war/Rise of Legends style campaigns?

>>161861990
Company of Heroes 1 has a campaign that can be played co-op.

>>161861990
Warlords Battlecry.

>Launcher says something about a 1.4 Kennedy update

man fuck
when is that coming?

>>161863813
what game? If Stellaris; 1.4 is called Banks

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what do i do if the vast emptiness of space turns out to be pretty fucking vast and empty?

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>new colony, suddenly 18 population and starving
Migration was a mistake

>>161865153
you haven't even explored that "vast emptiness"

>>161865292
>building mines before farms

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>>161863783
This looks pretty nice.

>>161865483
I have 25 planets and they've never migrated like this before, usually quickest to get androids up

>>161865483
i have a giant buffer of barren systems and small low hab planets and i have no means of border extrusion in any of that with nothing to colonize

i only got so many outposts to use

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>>161865153
Celebrate that the game hasn't spawned you in the centre of two Fanatical Purifier advanced empires with two of the only five habitable worlds in reach being Holy Worlds belonging to the friendly neighbourhood FE [/spoiler]Like has just happened to me[/spoiler] and you actually have room to expand and enjoy some comfy empire building and exploration rather than fighting off waves of corvettes from Year One like some slightly more complex version of Space Invaders.

>>161866457
Time to takes someone else's planets then I guess

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>>161865153
>Playing anything except spiral galaxies

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>>161809072
Of course /gsg/ threw an autism fit when something went out of tradition.
You can't even use a different thread image there without them sperging out, its kinda funny actually.

What does hull weakness mean in ES2? I assume it means my smaller ships just take more damage

I wish more people played Endless Legend.

I keep trying to google strategies and I only get shit from 2014 that's outdated or not relevant to the faction I'm playing

all planets are mine

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>>161870561
roll

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>AE opened borders while at -180 opinion
What the fuck are they up to, I can't even close my borders to them.

>>161875792
Where the fuck is that things eyes?

>>161875792
They're going to have you wearing their blue jeans and listening to their pop music.

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>>161875792
>benevolent interventionists

they're going to find some WMD's in your space, and that's certainly not okay.

>tfw unbidden and AE on both sides of my empire
panic.

>>161877943
Hope you're good at giving head while having a cock in your ass.

>send in my 120k fleet, destroy over 300k of unbidden in groups of 60k at a time, they still send another 150k, I eventually have to retreat

how the fuck am I supposed to stop them.

>>161879354
enlist the help of the lesser races

>>161875792
An ancient crisis has awakened

>>161879354
kamikaze to their portal

Is the Legendary Start option in civ 6 significantly neutered compared to civ 5, or is it just bugged at the moment?

>>161880825
make sure it isn't set to sparse

>>161865713
It looks nice but the pathfinding is atrocious, the AI is dumb (like in all strategies games), and ressources are low.

>>161824814
Filthy space hippies

>>161866025
You never build mines before farms. Never.

>>161883848
Oh, fuck off, Filthy. You don't get to decide how to play the game.

Yo I'm new to this shit, how I do not not suck at Stellaris?
Just general tips would be fine if you guys don't mind.

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>playing militarist materialist ayyliums
>first neighbour I discover is an advanced empire of bird people with the PURGE EVERYTHING ethos
>they keep sending me insults
>tech up and start weaponizing
>declare war on bird ppl and start curbstomping them
>rest of the known nations start forming a mega-alliance
>win the bird ppl war, start getting ready for the united force of the whole galaxy
>suddenly war declarations start flying
>what the fuck
>mega-alliance declares war on recently-annihilated bird ppl
>alliance breaks into smaller alliances
>smaller alliances start fighting against each other
>what the fuck is going on
>mfw I just sit in my cozy sector of space and watch on

>>161884879
Colonize up to your core limit.
Sector off planets that you're finished building on.
Get the +2 trait techs and locate presentients to uplift.

Add Industrious+Strong in one go to Prole presentients and use them for your mining worlds.

Gotta spend minerals to make minerals.

>>161884925
Looks like you just annihilated bird-hitler, and the consequences thereof.
>AI empires: Man that bird hitler is a real dick, but I don't think warring them is possible right now
>AI empire 1: how about we make a big-ass alliance, so we can do that?
>AI empire 2: sure, let's do it
>AI empire 3: I'll join too-
>PLAYER DECLARES WAR ON DICKASS BIRDS
>AI empires: wait, we can do that?

>>161885947
I merely replaced bird hitler with mushroom stalin (me).
I genocided the bird ppl on all the ceded planets and a few years later went on to attack some bugs who were part of the mega-alliance.
>bug people only have 3 planets, try to turbo-cede them
>at war with a total of 7 empires
>most of my mining stations and observation posts get rekt by warp-fags and hyperlane-fags roaming my territory
>manage to cede those 3 bug planets and end the second war
>purge bug people
>rest of the alliance goes on to gangrape the remaining bird people and some unfortunate frog people after that

I'm technologically more advanced and my fleets are more powerful than that of most small nations so it's weird they're happy to war among themselves but refuse to declare on me. All the wars I've fought so far I had to start.
I'm pretty sure it's because I have a few friends and all the layers of alliances prevent my enemies from attacking me.

>>161884879
Play wide, colonize early and often. It will hurt your research speed short term but once you develop the worlds you colonize you'll start pulling ahead. Build spaceports as soon as you're able and upgrade them, every new space port increases your fleet capacity which is vital to staying militarily competitive. Being weak makes it hard to negotiate with the AI, and the AI is already a pain in the ass to negotiate with so there's no point in making it worse.

When making sectors be sure to keep an eye on their energy production, because sectors only draw energy from the mines and power stations located inside their borders. If the sector isn't self-sufficient in energy production you'll have to dump a bunch of credits in its stockpile until the AI manages to sort things out or you add a few systems with energy mines to it.

Expand aggressively. If you find a neighboring empire put an outpost close to their border to curtail their expansion. Space might look empty early game but as you research more tech new strategic resources get revealed and you'll regret giving up all those barren systems. Consider also colonizing worlds with robot colony ships if you don't have the habitability for it. This is especially useful on smaller worlds, when you just want to push your borders out and don't particularly care about the development of the world.

>>161881568
Why not?

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Superweapon General got alot more cancerous

>>161887670
This is insane.

What do I do with alien pops on ceded planets?
>1.) pruge all pops and relocate a few of my guys after it's done
>2.) purge a few pops, relocate main species and build droids, enslave the remaining ayylmaos

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>>161887817
and to top it of she gets the tomahawk storm as soon as she builds a War Factory/Air Field without the need of a Strategy Center/the need to rank up+ she has a defensive building that shoots down missle based Superweapons

>>161888934
Why would you care about species of your citizens?

>>161890041
Why would you let xenos exist?

I was thinking of doing an Civ 6 Earth map game with a friend, with TSL.
But leaving the Americas and Africa uninhabited, filled with barbs yet ripe for colonial expansion.

I was thinking of being Russia, and have England, France, Spain, Germany, Norway, Rome, Greece, Arabia, India, China, Japan.

Only, I don't want the arabs to claim all of Africa for themselves in the early game. I was thinking of putting the Congolese in the game but they would be able to expand completely unchecked across africa and would likely end up being a super power and that's fucking dumb.

Who can I add to keep arabs from expanding into Africa? Egypt? Gilgamesh?

>>161890136
>not wanting space gnomes to improve your economy
>not wanting space bear, bugman and lizardman infantry meatshields
>not wanting toaster and rockmen miners and labourers
>not wanting grey scientists to design weapons for you
>not wanting catgirl pleasure women and catman commandos
>not wanting space elf psi corps
>not wanting merman marines
>not wanting shapeshifter spies
>not wanting birdman diplomats and artists

I do hope you're at least playing the mirror universe humans with outlook like this.

>>161888934
>Enslave
And give them a chance in the future to rise up against you?
The choice is obvious, friend.
>>161890880
I mean this is also cool, but it's a lot of work.

What are some good endless legend youtube channels/players?

>>161891518
>good
>youtube

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This is fucking bullshit I put down 500k of unbidden between my warp into the system and losing before their defenses.

>>161891684
yeah the unbidden are fucking cunts if you dont get them early

>>161892003
I retrofit 20% of my battleships with drones, the drones seemed to do enough damage to the portal when I warped in the other side of the system to attack the defences

All this fucking sweet sweet technology from debris

0-4: Stellaris
5-9: Civ VI
dubs: study

>>161893570
You got two "1" in your post. Get to work.

Is that Stellaris mod with a bunch of new ship classes good or is it just a bunch of dumb shit

>>161873607
rowling

>>161894312
>Is Stellaris just a bunch of dumb shit
Take a guess.

>>161873607
rollan emmerich

Stellaris 1.4 Kennedy is out.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/281990/announcements/detail/653416263561271214

>>161897316
tfw just shit on unbidden and then they buffed them, you have to destroy all their anchor stations before you can attack the main portal now

>>161897316
>* Repeatable technologies have their base cost increased from 1500 to 3000 and their increasing cost increased from 480 to 1000
lame as fuck

>>161897375
>Instead of spawning reinforcements as soon as a fleet is lost, the Extradimensional portal will create new fleets at a fixed rate depending on the number of dimensional anchors the Extradimensionals have placed in the galaxy.
At least they'll no longer shit out high-power fleets at a moments notice

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>>161897316
>Pirates buffed
>mfw current game am surrounded by Pirate systems on three sides

>>161811178
>>161811639
Oh man. I still have this somewhere complete in box. I'm gonna dig it up now and try it again after all these years. Thanks anon!

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>>161897980
>gif

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>>161897316
>Decided to download Extra Races Revival
>Tab over to /civ4xg/

>>161897316
is this thing likely to fuck many mods

can someone tell me if the size of the leviathans DLC package changed? I pirated it but my game is legitimate, I'm wondering if I have to go find the new version or not

>>161899984
How so?

>>161897316
>http://steamcommunity.com/games/281990/announcements/detail/653416263561271214

What's 'Horizon Signal?'

>>161900728
Free story pack by the dude who wrote Fallen London and Sunless Sea.

>>161900787
Awesome!

But I don't see that it's been downloaded; does it release later today?

>>161900890
Steam have to approve it, could take hours, was uploaded 2 hours ago according to steamdb

https://steamdb.info/app/554350/subs/

>>161897463
there goes the science approach to even the odds against awakened
what the fuck is left to do ?

>>161901042
Submit.

>>161901042
Federations? Dunno how effective that would be.
Pray for WiH

>>161901042
blob and move your army blob into the enemy army blob
we grand strat now

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dank

>>161902271
What the fuck.

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>>161902271
I don't play this game, but what the fuck is with that skeleman on the left panel of the Metal Gear comm relay? His hands have flesh but his huge head is some sort of metallicized bone, plus his neck seems to begin half a foot below his shoulders.

Did you create that poorly photoshopped nightmare or was it the programmer of this travesty of a game?

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>>161902357
He is unironically pretty good with the multiple kinds of toxins

>>161902495
russian mod
dont ask questions, just enjoy the ride

>>161902495
And that huge bong too.

>>161902580
>shoes upgrade
Come on, that's just bad taste.

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>>161902724
>bad taste
Not really
in the original Generals the GLA Workers always asked for Shoes and in Zero Hour you can buy such shoes to increase their walking speed and increase the amount of supply the carry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4vIlLj-hiw

>>161902876
>in the original Generals the GLA Workers always asked for Shoes
Yeah, I remember that. It was heart-breaking as a kid.
>in Zero Hour you can buy such shoes to increase their walking speed and increase the amount of supply the carry
That's still bad taste. What the fuck, [developper]?