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Lightning Breach Edition.

>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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>>162026138
Path of Exile more like
Pile of Excrement LMAO
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I like anime but I don't like anime posters
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>watching someone play hardcore
>they just DC when in trouble

Fuck off man, what's the point of playing hardcore if you're just going to cheat anyway?
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I don't like anime or anime posters
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what's the point of these big hidden clasped hands when they don't drop anything good
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>>162026324
logging out manually is a valid strategy i think. there's no excuse for that logout macro bullshit though
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>>162026315
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I like PoE but the game design fucking godawful, they really just threw whatever they had for an ARPG - a Diablo 2 clone and whatever else and got what stuck

>gems are limited to class for NO GOOD REASON

>masters are another shitty grind in addition to daily quests - which spawned 820 and master rotations just to get by faster

>life, armour and evasion still weren't buffed/changed with the most recent patch, in fact they all got nerfed with map mods like less X and completely no regen, hope you like spamming flasks

>skills like Ancestral Warchief completely outclass any other attack skill
>they buffed golems but ignored a plethora of other abilities to make a memebuild possibly viable - and nerfed it before the patch even hit because they thought it was TOO strong
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anyone just about had it with all the teasing and bullying from hardcucks?

next time someone calls me a ****bird i swear to god im damn quittin and reporting the thread
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>post in thread
It immediately dies
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I have to reroll since my raider cyclone makes my frames drop too much
Give me a build that is more on the left side of the tree.
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>>162026808
Chris has a BA in Finance and Commerce, not game design or programming
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>play flameblast totem
>open breach
>get killed before flameblast goes off
What would be a safer build? SRS?
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Guys, I think I may have fucked up

>be me, PoE player with medium experience
>never attempted anything CI, energy shield, or hybrid related
>decide to try a CI build this league
>level as life until 70
>be pretty poor this league
>buy some cheap gear with decent amounts of ES
>respec to CI
>3700 ES with discipline up

I just counted up my tree stats again, and I currently only have 164% increased ES and the +15% more node behind CI. I'm guessing this isn't nearly enough? I'm getting killed in dried lake. What the fuck do I do now? Is this even salvageable?
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How are your maps, exile?
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>>162027450
how many respec points
post your tree, what build? you should be aiming for at least 180% on tree and 250% in total because INT gives ES % as well
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>>162027450
post your gear

164% es should be ok at level 70, the 3700 ES can't be because of the tree
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>>162026808
>Gems are limited to class
Omg why can i not buy ice spear on my duelist, he has so many cold and spell damage nodes!
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>>161960986
>free
>>161961006
>free
>>161966413
>FREE
>>161984018
>free
>>161993327
>free
>>162000758
>free
>>162004913
>free
>>162011263
>free
>>162019012
>free
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>>162027890

duelist has an entire proj cluster, shitbird
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>My joke pic I made on a whim became OP a few threads later
I love you, whoever made this thread.
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>>162027890
you have 3 seconds to explain why witch and shadow can't buy decoy totem
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>>162028098
>>162026138
samefag
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What's a "normal" amount to have died by Cruel? Obviously the ideal amount is zero but I don't really know wtf I'm doing since I haven't played since nemesis and never went past act 2 cruel. Just hit act 3 cruel and apparently I've died 15 times, kinda discouraged with my build over it.
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>>162028648
Because GGG are hacks and it fuels Day 1 Trading.
>An Alch for a fucking Support Gem you can't get
>Slower Projectiles ran for a fucking Chaos Orb
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>>162027467
haven't made it to them yet.
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>>162028793
>doesn't just have clanmates buy it
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>>162028842
>plays with people

reddit pls go
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>>162028745
I have some bad news for you, Anon.
I'm not a conceited bastard who would showcase their own mediocre edits. :^)
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>>162028767
0, it's you not the build.
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>>162027467
doesn't seem like the grind will be that bad
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>>162027450
Yeah nah you fucked up

200% increased ES is the absolute minimum 'glass cannon crow' level for CI, but that's not even particularly difficult to obtain. 250% is recommended, the tankier builds get 300%+, and anything Occultist is gonna have 350% without even trying.

Goof'd son. Rework your tree to the above specifications, or start a new character if you can't afford to do that. That said, even with 3.7k ES you really shouldn't be getting killed in Dried Lake, even if you have no other mitigation. What the fuck are you even playing?
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>>162028842
>clanmates
school let our early today?
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>>162029038
Well, it is just a thousand T10 maps.
It's far from absurd if you play a decent amount.
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>>162027450
I have a higher ES % than that at level 45

Post build so I can laugh
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>>162027450
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>>162027450
I have 4000 energy shield and I'm still life based

What the fuck are u doing senpai, you need to get energy gear (not percent just add es) and then craft ES mods and shit too.
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>>162029086
nobody says clan or clanmates anymore. the fact that he said that indicates that he's probably older than your average poe player
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>>162028767
Are you dying to trash mobs, bosses, or breaches

Breaches are actually pretty tough if you're a new or returning player so a couple of deaths can be forgiven to them. 15 is too many though, you probably fucked up your build.
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>>162027450
With sub-4k es the fault's on your gear. I specced into shit gear at 70 with 6.5k es. Downgrade to a four link for a while and pick yourself up an es chest that isn't vendor trash. Mediocre rolls on gloves, shield, chest, and helm pretty much guarantee 6k.
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>>162027450
>decent amounts of ES
I can't honestly believe that.
>3500 ES
>Remove 15% More and you get 3217 or so
>Take out the 164% and you get 1 thousand, 2 hundred and nineteen rounded up
>1219
Your fucking BODY ARMOR should be minimum HALF that amount.
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>>162026808
Please, don't throw around terms like "game design" when you just want the game to be more convenient for you, regardless of any logic behind game design, this kind of retarded slippery slope has no ending, first you want all gems to be available to all classes because there's "no good reason" to ever limit their availability, then you'll want free passive tree respecs, free currency pick-ups, free 5Ls, free this, free that.

There's generally a good reason to restrict what players are capable of, convenience should never be a reason to remove restrictions that have a reason to exist, otherwise you end up with Diablo 3.

P.S. if you honestly can't find a single reason game design wise that GGG would want to restrict gem rewards to different classes, it's pointless to even try to convince you you're in the wrong
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>>162029325
people still say it

on games where clans or guilds are a thing. poe isnt one of those
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>>162028098
>>162028919
samefag (again)
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>>162027275
Chris doesn't actually make the game senpai

Like there's plenty to be mad at him about, like him being a lying PR douche, but blaming him for poor game design is like blaming Hitler for global warming
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>>162029640
it's pointless to even have skill gem restrictions in the first place you fucking RETARD

there's a point in not giving people free respecs or currency pick up five links, there is a fucking distinction between ALL of those, fuck off you generalizing faggot
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>>162029921
Yes he does, he was able to fund GGG off his previous shit programming
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>>162029975
Maybe when you're done frothing at your mouth like some autistic faggot, you could advance maybe one reason why you believe so? You know, so you don't appear like a complete retard who just wants the game dumbed down for him but can't justify why?
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>>162029975
Skill gem restrictions exist to stop new players trying to do something unfeasible or 'advanced', like a crit ball lightning marauder or some shit.

Which is fine in normal. You should get access to all of the gems by cruel/merc on every character though, because that justification no longer holds by that point.
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>>162030160
Getting a currency or 5L to drop is as fair a chance and POSSIBLE for anyone - every gets the same amount of FREE respect points. Skill gems are completely gated for a character. It's not even hard, it's tedious and yes it would be convenient. Does it break the game? Fuck no, does free currency break the game if it's 'convenient'? Obviously.
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>>162030146
But he doesn't do any codework these days. If you actually think he's still taking an active hand in design beyond being an 'idea guy' (Which is code for 'Pretending to take an active hand in design'), you're deluded and have no idea how the development process works.

He's literally a PR goon. That's his job description now. Hate him for being a PR goon, find somebody else to hate for design fuckups.
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>>162030272
>You should get access to all of the gems by cruel/merc on every character though, because that justification no longer holds by that point.
Except that would change very little for faggots like him, because he just wants the game to be more convenient, what's with buying IC on a witch in normal and so on. "I want everything handed to me because it's more convenient that way!" is his prime argument
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what melee skill is good right now?

I want to make a tanky 1h and shield templar in HC but I haven't played for like a couple years

i never even tried a lot of these newer skills
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>>162030503
as oppose to having someone else handing it to me for the same cost instead of an NPC? what's your fucking argument that limiting skill gems to classes should exist besides "MUH INCONVENIENCE"

Fucking end yourself.
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How much survival passives should I be investing for later difficulties. I'm making something minion/aura centric
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>>162030497
You know Bill Gates still worked on Microshaft Wangblows with the normal programmers after making it big
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>>162030591
earthquake
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>>162030779
Depends on your build and defensive measures.

Minimum for life based is 150% increased life.
Minimum for ES based is 250% increased ES - accounting for INT as well.

Ultimately gear will matter more as better gear costs more of course.
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>>162030407
>Getting a currency or 5L to drop is as fair a chance and POSSIBLE for anyone.
Same goes with skill gems, there's nothing that prevents a marauder from ever dropping spell or ranged gems.
>every gets the same amount of FREE respect points.
And those are limited for a reason - why do you think?
>Skill gems are completely gated for a character.
Every class gets plenty of choices to accomplish whatever they want given their archetype. If you want to create something off-the-box, it should be logical that things start to become.
>It's not even hard
This has absolutely nothing to do difficulty you nimrod.
>Does it break the game?
Does it break the game currently that classes have gem rewards restrictions? No you fucking retard.
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>>162030830
fascinating.
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>>162030671
The restriction exists for several reasons, you're too retarded to see them.
>besides "MUH INCONVENIENCE"
Nope, your argument is "MUH CONVENIENCE", but disagreeing with you doesn't mean going the direct opposite way, restrictions can be smart and good game design as long as they're not arbitrary barriers, you're just a fucking casualshit who wants everything to be convenient which is NOT how you design a game.
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>>162029647
>guilds aren't a thing in poe
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>>162031078
right
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>people seriously think skill gem restrictions are good

what do they even contribute again
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Stop talking to me you creep
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>>162031183
These are the same people that complained about the skill gem shop being added in the first place just ignore them mate
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>>162031183
>I want things to change the way I want them because I dislike how they are currently
great argument, you should make your case to GGG
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>>162031292
is this even a real post
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>>162031292
>*fart noises*
That's u right now
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found a regalia on the ground, 1 alch later
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>>162031461
>>162031463
great arguments all around
game design experts here
so good to have geniuses like you contributing ITT

>I game game restrictions!!!
so fuck off back to D3
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>>162029806
You're still wrong. It's not samefagging unless I'm pretending to be someone else. :^)
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>>162030883
Sounds really steep. I was thinking hybrid cause I hit all over the place for more minion and aura nodes.
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>>162028919
>>162031546
still samefagging (getting kinda pathetic)
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>>162031542
Fuck off from my general and never reply to me again, punk
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>>162031660
Whatever you say friend. All I know is I'm not Op, but I am the other 3 posts you've quoted.
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>>162031512
vendor trash
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>>162031679
>PoE has bad game design because it doesn't fit my perfect vision of a casual game where everything is convenient and I never have to think
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>>162031512
>609 Tri-res
Not bad.
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>>162031787
Strawman, not an argument
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>>162031860
>Convenience should really be the primary reason to dumb down the game, for this reason I suggest every character gets a free passive tree respec in every difficulty because there's no good reason to still be restricted in terms of character customization
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>>162031512
fuck you
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>>162032005
Not
An
Argument
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>>162032196
>Trust me, I'm a game design expert, I played a lot of intelligently designed games like Diablo 3 that don't restrict your character in any way
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>>162032301
>Diablo 3 that don't restrict your character in any way
lol
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buttbirds have been complaining that poe is too hard for five years, and now 30% of the playerbase is playing HC, and veteran HC players are doing SSF

ez game
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>>162032363
>In Diablo 3 you can customize your build on the fly by changing runes, I think PoE would benefit from a similar system where every socket is white and linked to others
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>>162032301
>I'm a shitposter on an anonymous imageboard and I gargle cocks while spewing logical fallacies

n o t a n a r g u m e n t
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>>162032570
>I've yet to advance a single argument why all gems should be available to all classes but I'll be sure to make sure everyone know I'm an expert in game design and you should just believe me
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Daily reminder to forget fast clearing and port back to town to put on your culling gear.
Kill the boss. Profit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huQJHDl1O94
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>>162032675
>I lack reading comprehension and the idea doesn't fit MY vision of the game so I'm going to repeatedly strawman their argument
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>>162032891
>I presented no argument to begin with, but when called out on what appeared to be a stupid stance to adopt, I'll just hide behind the strawman card, as it exempts me from having to actually use logic and arguments to defend my case
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>>162032691
That guy is annoying
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>>162033012
Glad you agreed I presented my point while you haven't done anything aside from typing logical fallacies and trying to pass them on as arguments
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>>162033227
>I presented no argument to begin with
>This is bad game design because I dislike it
>Why? well just stop strawmanning me!!
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every argument about """design""" or preventing newbs from making mistakes doesnt make up for the fact that there are BOTW features on the actual poe website that a ssf newb CANT even begin to try and copy because he doesnt even have access to those gems, even if he started on the same class the BOTW did
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>>162033309
How long are you going to go before you present a counter argument? I'll just take it I've bested you.
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>>162033361
1) There is nothing wrong about the game design from a SSF perspective.

2) If you want to do a special build your class may not be designated for, trading gems is the least of your issues, as in you need to trade gear in the first place. The convenience of not having to trade gems cannot be justified in any way shape or form as intelligent game design. It's just convenience. The same as giving everyone a tabula or 50 respec points per difficulty would be awfully convenient.
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>>162033485
>The longer I engage in a quote war, the more right I am
>I will never attempt to defend my position and remain the retarded little shit who wants the game to be convenient because of unexplained "reasons"
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>>162033695
Internet arguments I've won today: +1
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>>162033761
At least something you've won, unlike some understanding of what proper game design is, faggot

>Give me everything so the game is more convenient!!
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all these green words and no one has told me why witch and shadow can't buy decoy totem
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>>162033883
I bet you don't even have a demi
Wish scrubs would stop talking
I also understand what makes an argument, unlike you
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>>162033581
1) by featuring "out of the mold" builds, GGG is creating the need of unavailable gems by exposing newbs to such builds. gear choice may be flexible, but gem choices arent. a ssf player would be rightfully dissapointed about it (like i used to be when i started playing and was ssf for my first league)

2) trading gems is trivial. in fact most people will trade just to get 20q versions, but that is once you are comfortable with that part of the game. and even for us, trading can often be a downright hostile experience. i really cant condone wanting to expose new players to that part of PoE just so they can cast fucking blast rain on their new marauder
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>>162034001
Because the development team is too busy programming new stash tabs
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>>162034001
why do you want more convenience? is that your only argument?
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>>162034001
>Tfw no less duration on witch
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>>162034225

in what way it detracts from the game if they are sold at vendor?

there are vendor gems NO ONE uses, at least when you first gain access to them; why not put there instead universally-desirable gems?
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>>162034101
1) The game is perfectly fine from a SSF perspective, there can never be a SSF BOTW because it's all about showcasing interesting item interactions. "This week's build features a player using unique A and unique B to produce the interesting effect C when using the skill X", NOT "... a player using whatever shit he finds by himself without ever trading."

2) Trading gems is trivial, exactly, it's just a minor inconvenience. It can't be used as a reason to change core game design. Arguing that game restrictions have no reason to exist because you can bypass them with trading is a pretty retarded argument to make for a better designed game.
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>>162034413
Stop talking to him, he's brain damaged
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huh. what build can utilize this ?
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hello poeg, I am a newbie that came upon a really nice vaal regalia and now I own pick related, what are some good things to do with the currency to snowball it into more currency
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>>162034359
>no poison on witch

what were they thinking
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>>162034225
it makes no functional sense that squishy classes that need a body to tank for them don't have access to the gem yet fat retard marauders who have 400 hp in act 1 can get it

convenience is one of the many problems here
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>doing a shore
>tora mission
>it's a ghosted mutated maw(the chaos leaper from sewer)
>almost one shots me
>run away
>join 820
>some randoms join
>enter mission
>they almost rip
>mfw
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>>162034413
Arguing that gem rewards should feature every "universally-desirable" gems (not subjective at all), or that said gems popularity should play a factor sounds like a lot more random game design that simply restricting each class with what gem rewards they get. Again, "I want the game to be more convenient for me!" is not a valid argument when discussing game design.
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>>162034530
> Arguing that game restrictions have no reason to exist because you can bypass them with trading is a pretty retarded argument to make for a better designed game.

no it's not, you're fucking delusional if you think that's true

>WELL YOU CAN JUST...

Also you're arguing that restricting gems to classes is somehow CORE GAME DESIGN. Seriously fucking stop.
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>fire breach
>bleed bleed bleed bleed + 30% hp damage from one projectile

>lightning breach
>lightning warping invisible spiders and lightning orbs that hit you despite not touching you

>ice breach
>everything

FUCK
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>>162034530
>The game is perfectly fine from a SSF perspective

absolutely not. i gave up on ssf a long time ago because ssf poe was less fun than D3 for me. lack of access to certain gems is just one of the problems with it

>there is no reason why GGG should solve minor inconveniences that agilize the part of the game everybody is either eager to skip or just struggling to learn

i disagree
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>>162034815
>no it's not
Always a pleasure to argue with retards like you, present an argument, get a "NOT TRUE" rebuttal
>Also you're arguing that restricting gems to classes is somehow CORE GAME DESIGN.
Yes, it is? Not a matter of opinion. GGG designed the game to have restrictions with regards to what classes get what gems. If you consider this to be bad or unnecessary game design, you should be able to explain WHY.
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>>162027890
A bunch of classes can't get increased duration or less duration for no reason
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>>162034858
>Phys Breach
>No Bleed enemies, in-fact, you don't even drop below half
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>>162034612
>what are some good things to do with the currency to snowball it into more currency
price gouge noobs on poetrade
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>>162034937
All it means is that SSF PoE is not for you, not that it's badly designed. When can we expect proper arguments besides "I don't like it" or "From my perspective, it's not enjoyable" or "I wish it were more convenient"?
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I just sold someone like 23 haste gems @ 1alch each. What is he doing with them? I feel like I'm getting hustled.
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>>162035153
vaaling them for vhastes, retard
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>>162035153
He's going to gamble them into vaal hastes with vaal orbs like a man to try and flip money
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>>162034813
>or that said gems popularity should play a factor sounds like a lot more random game design that simply restricting each class with what gem rewards they get

you forget that they already started doing this in the last half of A3 and in A4

its only A1 and A2 that arbitrarily restrict gem access


>>162035117

> When can we expect proper arguments besides "I don't like it" or "From my perspective, it's not enjoyable" or "I wish it were more convenient"?

its a game that each person plays their own way, yet this lack of gem makes people with wildly divergent play styles converge on something. each new league threads about it pop up

and there is never an actual argument of why the current status quo enhances the game's design or experience of playing it?
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Haven't played in more than a year. Have they made the game any more beginner friendly? As in not having to spend hours upon hours to uselessly level with slow and boring characters and having to read a dozen guides to understand the basics of builds?
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>>162035220
>>162035295
Didn't realise vhastes were that expensive. Time to get in on it.
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>>162035415
short answer yes
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>>162035415
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/filename/1460266041622/

Fuck off retard.
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within the context of a discussion about a video game that can and should be played for >fun, "i don't like it" is not a bad argument as for why mechanics considered to be unfun should be changed
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The "X is increased by uncapped Y resist" uniques seem absolute garbage. Going around in maps with -30% lightning res for just 105% increased crit? or -30% fire res for 105% increased armor? It's a serious gimp for such a minor buff. If they were more modifiers, I could see them being used, but good luck with every small flame hit igniting you for half your HP, or being shocked for twenty thousand years. Can't even use resistance flasks because then you just ignore the benefits of the items.
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>the incantation costs 1 chaos each
>the whispering ice costs 1 chaos
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>>162035487
Literally just made 10c from this in 5 mins, wew lad
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The gem talk reminded me of the time when I had a multistrike drop and people were jealous
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>>162035687
True,but when it comes down to it isn't "fun" completely subjective?One may like the gem system while another hates it.Should it pander towards either of them or keep doing what the makers want.

You could argue that they can change what the majority of their playerbase finds unfun,but imo this would end up with the complete casualisation of the game desu.
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>>162035687

it would be a terrible argument if it was just 1 person insisting on it for 4 years

but lots of people converge on it

>>162035865

yeah. and the game is absolutely better now that its accessible in a4 for everbody
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>muted for 8 hours

fucking admins are faggots
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>>162035376
>you forget that they already started doing this in the last half of A3 and in A4
The only gems that every class gets are by the end of A4 just before Malachai when your build should already be functioning and they're general skills like golems, CWDT, CoH. Do you see a pattern?

"Arbitrary" restrictions sure, it has be to arbitrary if it by design, correct? "Arbitrary restriction" is a lot better than "random restriction" or "no restriction".

>its a game that each person plays their own way, yet this lack of gem makes people with wildly divergent play styles converge on something.
Hardly, since everyone is free to trade. This argument only makes sense for SSF players who are much more reliant on what gem rewards their class gets or suffer a time tax in the form of muling them from another character.

>and there is never an actual argument of why the current status quo enhances the game's design or experience of playing it?
How is having everything readily available to you enhancing game design? That's a completely subjective opinion. Would giving everyone a tabula in A1N enhance gameplay? Having to think about sockets, links and colors isn't really enjoyable from your perspective I suppoe.
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aaaaand it's another excavation map

piece of shit fucking game fuck you
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>tfw corruption worked this time

ez essence of horror
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>>162036050
>hey're general skills like golems, CWDT, CoH. Do you see a pattern?

yeah and decoy totem is missing there. some curses too. using your same logic, they belong there

arbitrary restrictions are better than no restrictions when they make the game fun (an example of this is hardcore mode, which is strictly optional).

>hardly, but not really

ok

How is having everything readily available to you enhancing game design? That's a completely subjective opinion. Would giving everyone a tabula in A1N enhance gameplay?

you are comparing being able to vendor-buy a sharpnel shot on witch to being able to vendor-buy a 6l with white sockets?

you seriously believe both provide the same kind of bonus to a player? you believe having skill gem that right now is not on your starting class is equal to having gear that trivializes the game until maps?

i can only say that you are extremely mistaken
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>>162034858
>ice breach
>THOSE FUCKING GOLEMS RUN OUT OF THE FUCKING CIRCLE WHEN I WANT TO BAIL AND MURDER MY ASS
FUCK
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>>162036652
Learn to use meme arrows correctly, Christ.

It's not about the extent of "bonus" something provides to the player, but whether it should be implemented for the sake of "enhancing" game design, when it's really just a lazy way to say you want the game to be more convenient. Please, formulate a valid argument for once.
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>>162035783
Again. You don't understand what uncapped res means.

Look at your res tab. When it says 75 (90) the 90 is your uncapped res.

uncapped != undercapped
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>>162036931
Oh, my bad.

Then they seem very strong, especially the crit amulet one for people who want to go crit but don't have the points to do so.
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>open explode box
>rip to standard

dotards?
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>>162036547
so the most worthless of all corrupted essences, gz

i'm sure you could sell it some cospri discharge though, that build wasn't nerfed in 2.5 oh wait it was
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>>162036849
>Please, formulate a valid argument for once.

my argument is valid. the lack of access to gems is a tiny discomfort that adds absolutely nothing to the game experience and that is so trivially solved that it may as well now exist at all

but since you need to compare a l1 skill gem to a tabula rasa to try and """""show"""" why im wrong, i know you dont any argument of your own that isnt a logical fallacy or appeal to authority
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>>162027119
I'm actually quitting HC

since GGG started homogenizing the league mechanics uniques challenges and rewards there is literally no reason to play HC other than 'muh challenge' 'muh adrenaline' 'muh im better than you'.

HC is a waste of time and energy.

However SC also has its downsides, but i'd much rather make a character and kill shaper myself for 40/40 than just buy the kill in HC with my dried lake farmed chaos orbs.

I'm pretty done with HC.
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>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1784458

"this is us pretending to actually play the game"
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GGG staff builds
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1784458

>Carl (Design/Production) - I'm building a crit-based shadow. I'm planning to be a lightning Assassin using Duskdawn. Getting the gear might be difficult however!
>Nick (Design) - Still planning my build but currently playing a Duelist and I'm planning to stick with melee weapons. I'll stick with Lacerate for now. It's quite nice for killing the Breach rares.
>Rory (Design) - I'm playing an Elementalist using Flameblast with cast while channeling Vortex.
>Shaun (QA) - I'm playing Lightning Arrow/Barrage and also started to level a Cospri's Malice Discharge character last night, but right now Lightning Arrow/Barrage is my build of choice.
>Josiah (Level Design) - I'm toying around with a Blight build and Scorching Ray Build. I play hardcore just to see how far I can get, so that's fun and interesting.
>Bex (Head Community Manager) - I was playing as a Lightning Arrow Ranger but I died on a Tora mission trying to complete my challenges. I'm currently re-rolling as a Marauder with Earthquake. We'll see what happens! I almost always play >Ranger so I'm looking forward to changing things up by going melee.
>Rachel (Customer Support) - I'm doing a Chaos Inoculation Blade Flurry build :D
>Jeff (QA) - Warchief Totems - Marauder, Chieftain. Supported by Hatred/Herald of Ash. CWDT Immortal Call setup. Enduring Cry/Rallying Cry, Flame Golem.
>Dan (Design) - I'm going for a Scorching Ray Templar but I'm a bit behind at the moment!
>Jess (Customer Support) - I'm doing Mathil's Blade Flurry build but I haven't had much time to play yet.
>Samantha (Customer Support) - I started out with Freezing Pulse and now I'm playing with Scorching Ray but I'm considering changing over to Firestorm. Definitely something to do with fire.

...
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>>162037395

>Jake (QA) - I'm playing a Zombie and Spectre summoner.
>Jason (Design) - I'm playing an Elementalist using Flameblast.
>Marcos (Community Management Brazil) - I'm playing Blade Flurry currently and I'm planning on re-doing my Blight build.
Felipe (Community Management Brazil) - At the moment I'm playing Lioneye's Avalanche. It's a CoC build using Blast Rain, Glacial Cascade and Bladefall, getting around 800k dps with the Lioneye's Glare bow. I was playing Blade Flurry as well, but it's currently too expensive to build so I >re-rolled.
>Jake (Programmer) - I'm currently playing a Summon Raging Spirits/Zombie Necromancer.
>Chris (Fishing) - I was playing Cyclone but then I died to a Breach in Act 2 Cruel.
Chris H (Programmer) - I'm playing a Chaos Inoculation Flameblast Occultist at the moment called "Burny Sandals". The plan is that she's only allowed to wear sandal-like footwear :) Hoping to do what the first build below does with Chaos conversion and poison but with Flameblast. If it >doesn't work out I'll use Firestorm instead. I'm trying to make a combination of these two guides.
Tom M (Level Design) - I am starting Act3 hardcore with a Shadow class, with Chaos focus. Normally I use Decoy Totem or Ancestral Protector Totem, but this time I didn't drop them, so I'm managing with Whirling Blades and Frost Blades for ranged (basic pack bonking). I'm currently level >30 but not trading, just using item drops so far this league.
>Lionel (QA) - I'm playing an Elementalist using Flameblast.
>Tom (Supporter Uniques) - Doomfletch's Prism Barrage
>Jonathan (Technical Lead) - I was playing Cyclone but then I died to a Breach in Act 3 Normal.
>Mike F (Server Administrator) - I haven't gotten a high enough level yet, but my plan is to make a Bladefall totem build.
>Arthur (QA) - I'm playing a 2Hand Warchief Totem character.
>Melissa (Customer Support) - I'm playing a Templar/Lacerate character

..
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>>162037501

>Hrishi (Design) - I'm playing a summoner using Midnight Bargain and Esh's Visage!
>Alex (Community Management Russia) - I play Pillar of the Caged God Warchief Totems. I'm at about 17 or 18 challenges completed so far.
>Neon (Design) - I'm playing a generic Juggernaut with the intention of farming for gear to create a more epic build. I haven't picked a specific skill >yet, I'm just using what works until I create my next build.

.
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>>162037501

>only the BR actually plays the game
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>>162037338
If something is a minor annoyance but easily solved, why does it need to be changed? Just so the minor annoyance disappears for you? Sorry, still not a valid argument faggot. The game doesn't have to cater to you, or to the masses of people who want to have everything tailored for them.

The reasons for a game restriction to exist vastly outweigh the reason to eliminate it - so the minor annoyance disappears. Pretty sad that after all this time you've yet to find a single reason that is not "I don't like it! Others don't like it! Make it more convenient!"
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>>162037395
>>162037501
notice how shit skills like glacial cascade and lightning tendrils or fucking ground slam are non-existent, even these people know there's a meta GGG is just fucking stupid

the only ones that stand out are pillar of the caged god but AW is OP as fuck, and that frost blades guy but he's not far ahead
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>she's only allowed to wear sandal-like footwear

OUR GUY
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>>162037350
>HC is a waste of time and energy.
Pretty ironic considering you consider the pursuit of 40/40 in shitcore to be a more valuable expenditure of time and energy.

Spoiler: You're wasting your time and energy in either case to pursue a goal that no one gives a shit but you.
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GGG Builds:
>Carl (Design): crit shadow with Duskdawn
>Nick (Design): "I'm playing a Duelist and plan on sticking to a melee weapon. Lacerate is fun for now."
>Rory (Design): "Flameblast with Cast while Channelling Vortex"
>Shaun (QA): "LA/Barrage"
>Josiah (Level Design): "I'm toying around with a Blight and Scorching Ray build"
>Bex (Community Manager): "I'm playing an LA ranger but I died so now I'm rerolling an Earthquake Mara."
>Rachel (Customer Support) "I"m doing a CI Blade Flurry build"
>Jeff (QA): "Warchief Totems - Mara, Chieftain."
>Samantha (Customer Support): "I was doing Freezing Pulse, but now I'm trying out Scorching Ray. I might do Firestorm. I definitely wanna do something with fire."
>Jake (QA): "I'm playing a Zombie/Spectre Summoner"
>Jason (Design): "Elementalist Flameblast"
>Marcos (Community Management Brazil): "I'm playing Blade Flurry might do a Blight build"
>Felipe (Community Management Brazil): "At the moment I'm playing Lioneye's Avalance. CoC Blast Rain, Clacial Cascade, and Bladefall using Lioneye's Glare. I was playing Blade Flurry but it's too expensive so I rerolled."
>Jake (Programmer): "I'm playingg an SRS/Zombie Necro"
>Chris (Fishing I swear to god it says this): "I was playing Cyclone but then I died to a Breach in Act 2 Cruel"
>Chris H (Programmer) "I'm playing a CI Flameblast Occultist with the restriction that I have to wear 'sandal-like footwear :)' "
>Tom M (Level Design): "Decoy Totem/ANcestral Protecor/Frost blade Shadow"
>Lionel (QA): "Elementalist Flameblast"
>Tom (Supporter Uniques): "Doomfletch's Prism Barrage"
>Jonathan (Technical Lead): "I was playing Cyclone but then I died to a Breach in Act 3 Normal"
>Mike F (Server Admin): "Bladefall totem"
>Arthur (QA): 2h Warchief Totem"
>Melissa (Customer Support): "Templar/Lacerate"
>"Hrishi (Design): Summoner with Esh's Visage and Midnight Bargain"
>Alex (Community Management Russia): "Pillar of the Caged Gods Warchief Totems"
>Neon (Design): "Generic Juggernaut"
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>>162037395
>Russian and the BR are the only ones really playing
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>>162037395
>>162037501
>CTRL+F 'Scion'
>0 match
So everyone at GGG is clueless?
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The Russian and the Brazilian play this game more and know it better than the rest of the fucking GGG staff GGG what the actual fuck are you doing
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>>162037797
>Glacial Cascade
>Shit
While the scaling being half and half is stupid, the skill itself is not bad if built right, even on the cheap.
It's just not insanely good/good enough for Breaches.
Cause literally only Blade Flurry, Flameblast Totems, and Warchief Totems are good enough for Breaches.
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Bex (Head Community Manager) - I was playing as a Lightning Arrow Ranger but I died on a Tora mission trying to complete my challenges. I'm currently re-rolling as a Marauder with Earthquake. We'll see what happens! I almost always play Ranger so I'm looking forward to changing things up by going melee.

How can one girl be so perfect? She even plays hardcore..
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>>162037770

Why should minor annoyances that dont actually add any depth to the game, or teach a player anything -because of how easily they can be solved- exist?

What is the so-called reason for exist? Do you know it? Is it just you saying we should accept and respect the current Game design (appeal to authority) ?

Or is because you think that relaxing such restriction is equal to vendors selling 1alch tabulas? (logical fallacy)

Pretty sad that you've list a good single reason of why it needs to exist other than just because you like it.
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>>162037501
>Burny Sandals
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>>162038301
ARPGs are meant to be played in HC
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>>162038260
I don't see how anyone can think it's good except for that knockback one.

>scale phys and ice
>meaning if you scale one or the other you're missing out so you gotta scale spell damage to affect both or AoE
>also increasing AoE increases spacing meaning less overlaps

and this is before breaches
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>there's a fucking essence tab
>essence spawn rates nerfed

>there's a fucking div card tab
>div box spawn rates nerfed

hhhhmmmmm
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>>162037379
>>162037395
rachel is our girl
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>>162038307
I could name several actually, I just never had to when I could just shut down your "but it would be more convenient!" argument.
This is never a valid argument because what is convenient for one subset of players or good for the game overall doesn't necessarily overlap.

> Is it just you saying we should accept and respect the current Game design (appeal to authority) ?
This is not what appeal of authority means. I'm not saying the current game design is perfect or that GGG is always right, I'm merely assuming they do have a reason to put arbitrary restrictions on gem rewards. On record they've mentioned clutter, confusing new players, or keeping a semblance of class identity. Don't expect you to understand any of those since you actually tried to use the case of new players needing every single gem being available to them from the start.

As to whether you should accept it, you don't have a choice, you don't make the game. So deal with it or fuck off.
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>>162038582
>less overlaps
This is fine, really. The spikes in the back are farther back, meaning they have a higher rate of hitting the enemy a 2nd, 3rd, 4th time. And this increases with Knockback.

The skill is mechanically fine, but needs to either be pure Phys or pure Cold, preferably Phys with % of Phys as Extra Cold tacked on.
That said, though, it can clear through maps just fine.

Breaches are on a whole different plane of bullshit to the rest of the game presently.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9kygXtkh10&t=3m30s

whoa...
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>>162037634
>>162038051
Fucking Ruski stole my build REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162037379
>pretending
pretty sure Neon has a long history of actively playing hc leagues and is most likely a more experienced player than you
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>>162038792

>I could name several actually
ok im all ears

>I'm merely assuming they do have a reason to put arbitrary restrictions on gem rewards.

oh...

>On record they've mentioned clutter, confusing new players, or keeping a semblance of class identity.

i doubt clutter is a problem, since we are getting new currency types every league

i doubt confusing new players is a concern, because there nothing more byzantine than trade in PoE

and i thought that ascendancies solved this class identity crisis


Ok ill make it easy for you:

Image GGG implements all skill gems on vendors next patch. And you are the first one to see the patch notes! You have a headstart and click REPLY on that forum thread. Yours will be the first comment!

What would you say then? What mistake they've just made that you know you need to make them aware of?
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>>162039248
What do you want me to say, retard? We can only go by what GGG has said in the past, those are not my arguments but GGG's, the point being there is a LOGIC behind them, not just one selfish one centered your tiny little self where your personal convenience should dictate general game design.

>I doubt this is an issue
>I doubt this is an issue
>I doubt this is an issue
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Removing gem restrictions at best changes nothing and remove the minor (by your own admission) inconvenience of trading gems and at worst undermines one of the core design concepts of the game.

>Ok ill make it easy for you:
What's the point of your stupid thought experiment? Maybe they will, maybe they won't. There's a good chance they won't, so you can keep crying about it.
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how about we just make it so people who want access to all gems from an NPC can do so

and those who don't want them available to everyone can just lock themselves and get the current system, then they'll still have to trade with people and it's easier for them to find someone with the gem :)
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just give me ONE good reason why witch and shadow shouldn't get decoy totem
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Map as much as you can while breach monsters still drop maps. They're getting fucked to only rares next patch.
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>>162039589
Why don't we create a SSF mode where loot is increased by 500%? :)))))

If you're willing to partake in trade, what's the big deal with having to buy gems? Especially considering you want quality ones by the time you hit end game?
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>>162039740
you can't buy quality gems from a vendor retard
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>can't stack breach stones
breach tab when?
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>>162039669
There's a good reason witch, or shadow, or any class shouldn't get ANY gem. Decoy totem is just your cherrypicked example and has no real relevance. Give it to witches and shadows, and faggots like you will find another missing gem to complain about.
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>>162039823
yes you can from masters, retard
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>>162039552
>those are not my arguments but GGG's

i know GGG's arguments. ive read them before. im asking for the arguments you claimed you have.

>Removing gem restrictions...at worst undermines one of the core design concepts of the game.

how? remember that if you dont saw how, its not an argument.


>What's the point of your stupid thought experiment?

to see what would your reasons to argue against the change be, if had any, once you are no longer just arguing to preserve the status quo out of your need to appeal to authority
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>>162039823
retard
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>>162039839
You can stack them in a currency tab over 100. I'm using the 5 stacks at the bottom for all my splinters.
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>>162038582
>I don't see how anyone can think it's good
I ran it when it was released. Literally just stack crit. Pretty cozy clears and it was my go to build for farming atziri in hc leagues for a while due to the ridiculous trash clear speed.
Stack the ever loving hell out of aoe. Less overlap doesn't matter since it already clears just fine.
The only things wrong with glacial cascade are the terrain issues and just how clunky the skill itself is to use, the small dead zone in front of your character, and how bad the damage is early.
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>>162039845
>There's a good reason witch, or shadow, or any class shouldn't get ANY gem.

ok name it
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Is Malicious Intent any good? I have no other jewels to slot atm but 5% seems like gutter trash
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>>162039869
>>162039941
where's YOUR 20/20 blade vortex from vorici retard
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>>162039823
Can you read? That's the entire point. Crying you have to buy gems from other players when you have to buy a lot more than gems, even quality ones is like complaining you have to pay for water on top of rent, gas, electricity and food. If at any point you enter the trading game, you lose all right to demand the game should be a designed a certain way that suits your convenience. You fucking retard.
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>>162040064
It's absolute garbage.
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>>162040010
>>162040010
>>162040010
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>>162039086
lol yeah that's why their profile has been 100% private from the start right, so you couldn't see their spawned in 10k hp 200 max res gear
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>>162040064
5% is gutter trash. And after seeing the new unique gems you have to fucking wonder why it isn't 75% since clearly they have no issues making absolutely bonkers tier-0 power-level gems
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>muted for 8 fucking hours because I said 'jewish' in trade chat

seriously? I can't fucking do rotations or trade today, fuck there stupid as fuck admins moderators whatever
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I have a The Surrender and want to run double curse on hit with it, what two curses should I use? Should I go Warlords and Enfeeble for never die, or something more like Punishment and Elemental Weakness to slam down bosses single target?
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>>162039974
They actually fixed the terrain issues for GC, it can cross literally anything now, so long as you have the AoE for it.
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>>162040394
well if the mods consider "jewish" to be something offensive, you know they are likely nazis. report them to GGG
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>>162038260
you forgot

VAAL
CYCLONE
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just hit maps and i already wanna reroll
maps is such a chore
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>>162040481
Like I'm not even joking that's the only shit I said today.

>see someone selling spots for unique map olmecs sanctum 2c ea
>call him hit that the map is 5c, pretty jewish scheme, sell 5 spots for 10c and 5c profit get another map

>go do maps for completion
>take a break and try to trade to get maps I need
>you've been muted for 8 hours

like what the actual fuck, I wasn't spamming or fucking anything and JEWISH was legitimately the most 'triggering' thing I could've said.
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>>162040540
>Vaal Cyclone
>In a Zana Modded Double Beyond map
>With 2 close Breaches and a friend willing to help you delete a server from existence
Funny things happen.
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>>162038301
Do you think Bex-chan is cute?
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>>162040540
>Vaal Cyclone
>Vaal Molten Shell

OH LETS BREAK IT DOWPathofexile.exe has stopped working
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>>162040606
>maps is such a chore
Aside from being ESL, mapping is supposed to be the best part of the game. Why are you even playing?
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>>162040425
I think you're using the shield wrong.
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>>162039879
Giving players the option from the start to pick anything is generally a bad AND lazy way to design a game. Restriction breeds creativity and challenges that need to be overcome are a lot more interesting than giving you a package and telling you to execute actions step by step like a trained monkey. The same problem-solving balancing concept that is a core design of the game and exists in various other aspects, from sockets restrictions to stat restrictions to mana restrictions.

GGG's stated reasons are also valid, and you cannot make the reasonable argument a new player would benefit more from having 200 gems available rather than then 20 something that fit their character class.

Of course you are more than free to bypass such restrictions by trading, like pretty much everything in the game.
If you feel like you need decoy totem, enfeeble and immortal call on any of your characters and hate to think outside the box, by all means, go on poe.trade, buy your shit and go on your way. If you want to make a special conceptual character like a spellcaster Ranger, or an archer Witch, trading exists for you. Just don't pretend what is convenient for you should be the baseline of game design, that's ignorant, arrogant and most of all pretty fucking retarded.
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>>162040010

GGG wants it that way and they are never wrong. now fuck off

>>162040653
you used the word in a pejorative context. the mod is definitely way too jumpy about it but you cant say it was something completely unexpected
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>>162039669
>red gem
>int cluster
lmao
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>>162040741
Wait a minute, do Minions actually use Reckoning on Block with Necro Aegis?
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>>162040675
I already did that, it crashed fast. Hell the game crashes anytime there is an "Enemies can't die" pack that spawns in breaches, its not hard to crash the game.
>>162040741
Its working quite well for me as is with my 78% block chance. Getting a large amount of minion block seems tedious. Im just wondering what curses I should use.
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Do hardcore and standard breach league have any exclusive uniques between them like in previous leagues or are they exactly the same except one is hardcore mode?
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>>162040908
why can witch buy devouring totem then
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>>162040961
there's no hc or sc specific uniques for leagues anymore

meaning the only distinction between hc and sc breach is what happens after you die
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>>162040938
honesty? no idea. but it sounds like it should.
>>162040954
just mix it up and use vuln + enfeeble
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>>162040010
They have their own options, options classes like Marauder or Duelist don't get. This reenforces the idea of class identity and that any class can thrive with their own set of predetermined gems without the need to have access everything until end game, at which point you're more than encouraged to trade so the point of NPC gem availability becomes moot. Retard.
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>old PoE
>used to pride itself in how you could traverse the tree and do a build from anywhere

>this PoE
>Dude ASCENDANCIES LMAO
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>>162041467
It really does work against the who philosophy "you can build anything."
The only real exception is Duelist, you can make a Caster with fucking anything as Champion/Gladiator.
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>>162041201
Restricting skills is okay but for support gems, anyone who says the restrictions are okay is retarded, there's no reason to not allow access to all support gems, especially when the skills you have access end up restricting your options for support, so in the end, it balances out.
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>>162040790

I disagree that giving players options from the start is bad. PoE's appeal has always been about it being rather open-ended and shitting on ARPG conventions by mixing up how characters and skills are built from the start.

And restrictions that breed creativity only if they are true, inflexible restrictions, not merely optional ones. And for the players for whom the restrictions arent optional at all (ssf and new players who still dont know how to trade), those restriction actually hinder fun (trying out new skills is fun when you are new) or make the game more repetitive because they will just grind act 1- 2 venfor mules.

GGG's reasons aren't valid because everything else about their game points out to them being merely excuses. If overabundance of choice is a problem and they want to keep new players from being overwhelmed; they could do what they did with scion.
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>>162041467
you're a year late family
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FINALLY A DIVINERS
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>>162041201
>This reenforces the idea of class identity and that any class can thrive with their own set of predetermined gems without the need to have access everything until end game, at which point you're more than encouraged to trade so the point of NPC gem availability becomes moot. Retard.

why does the idea need to be reinforced beyond ascendancies and the passive tree? every single starting point has access to SOME projectile skill, yet there are starting points with ZERO projectile supports available. i dont see any master plan behind this.
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>>162041467
You still can do any build anywhere, for the most part.

It's not like it was ever nearly as effective, though. If you're a Ranger, don't expect to go and grab up all of Templar's nodes. It just doesn't work like that. There were always builds which were clearly better on some classes than on others.
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ez 45c
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>>162042027
ez 4ex
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>>162042027
right click those gems please
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>>162032691
why not do a whole new map in the time it takes you to change all your gear ? lol
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>>162038340
LOL
no refunds btw
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>Unique onyx amulet
>Its Carnage Heart
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>>162040954
Minion block is actually just about as easy to get as block for yourself, because you don't actually need much of it, ~50% phys block with the ~30% from bone offering coupled with fortified legion is enough to make minions essentially immortal unless you try to have a zombie tank shaper, and even then with mon'treguls hand or whatever that thing is and 6L zombies they actually CAN tank him with high block.
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pretty okay day. good luck tomorrow.
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>265 fire res
>formless inferno
>5.5k life
>ruby flask
>basalt
>melted

xDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>162044389
>life
XD
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is templar supposed to be suffering for life? i grab all the life nodes I can and still have 1.7k in beginning of merc
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^
get more life on ur gear lul
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>>162044652

how much life on gear?

life nodes alone wont give you a good health pool
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>>162044652
>MERC
>1. 7k

You fucking WOT m8
and yeah templar sucks for life, only good life is duelist/marauder enjoy
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>>162038301
Is not she fat?
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who else /haven'tgottenasingledecentdropyet/ here
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anyone kill a breachlord yet? how hard are they? thinking of doing xoph
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>>162045372

>>162044389
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>>162045372
pretty dangerous
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>>162045372
can you easily do normal atziri? all of them are harder except the physical guy

expect to die several times if you're not overprepared
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>>162045372
I've killed the Lightning and Ice ones.
Lightning guy was pain in the ass with massive damage aoe.
Ice was worse because he summoned traps that hurled ice at you the entire time. Only reason I survived is because I had so much leech my HP was ping ponging.
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>>162044389

Life based build takes are all precautions and still melts like butter against a warm knife.

Many such cases!
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>>162045772
To be fair I was level 79.
But yeah I have no leech because 2 meme warchief. Might just go eq
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>>162045328
right here, couldn't break out of arid lakes and marshes for 12 hours, I'm fucking done with this league already
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>>162045328
i have 20ex worth of currency and a 6l vaal regalia waiting to be rolled
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>>162037501
Authorize it
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>CI last league
>10k ez
>Life this League
>pretty much 6k unless I get a Kaoms for 7k
>could probably never get this much life if I wasn't a Marauder because +400 STR
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>have a 1.5 ex chest and a 2 ex heretics in the same day
god bless
i have like 4 ex now what do I do with my newfound wealth
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>>162047483
gimme dat heretics i wanna memebuild

>pledge of hands+vortex
>flammability+ele weakness
>fire pen, elementalist
>150% fire pen shieeeet
>pop an ignite for a billion damage
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I had an idea in my head to start a dual wands Scion character most of the day and I might actually do it and see how it goes.
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>tfw down to 50 alterations

i burn this shit like crack man
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Thanks alot Jdogg, you fuck. Little crybaby bitch go tattle to your daddy Chris
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>Mid-vaal cyclone
>Breach lord shows up
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>>162047661
>tfw i'm doing it
I dunno how effective it'll be endgame but it amuses me for the absurdity of it. I really wanna try grandmasters when i get that high.
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>Bowstring Prophecy upgrade to Death's Opus

do people even use that shit? 60c on poetrade, good chaos but do people buy it?
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Familia,

Which class for ED/contagion? Shadow or Witchfeet?
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>>162038051
That pillar build sounds pretty rad and is probably the only fresh idea there.
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>>162048283
Opus is best bow. Yes, people buy it.
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>>162048268
You using Pledge? What are your links anyways?
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>>162048283
yeah, death's opus is basically reach of the council: crit edition
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is it normal for my main damage skill to be 2k dps at the start of merc

feel like i fucked up somewhere fierce

also i have 2k HP even with HP on all my slots and like 100% increased from all nodes i can reach and no idea how i'm supposed to be getting more
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>>162048691
post build and gear you sound like you fucked up REAL bad
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I dislike the fact that its impossible to actually be tanky, and that you build around surviving 1 shots + regenning instantly

I don't think thats good game design
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no macro's
running a breach.
pressing my heals and abilities and moving like any sane person

this happens


is this a bannable offense?
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>>162048969
Nice korean-level APM
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>>162048969
anything over 100 apm is bannable
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man i fucking hate ziggydee
fucking flame blast
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How good is ancestral warchief totems reach and aoe coverage after the "adjustments"?

Can it still cover a massive area with 70% inc aoe overall?

Was thinking of that vs cyclone. Cyclone will probably clear breaches/maps faster, but ancestral warchief is GG against bosses.

I mean, as long as Ancestral totem can clear t15s in 6 minutes I'm happy.
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>>162048691
2k damage sounds bad but that is what i had that when i got to merc before i upgraded my weapon. 100% increased hp sounds low
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>>162049223
G'day ziggydee here to tell you this poster is a cunt

Now wotch me die to this detonate dead strongbox

Whoops hehe time to look on the forums for a new build. See ya in the next video gois, and thanks fo wotchin
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>>162049437
Adjustments did barely anything IMO because they increased weapon range.

That said I use a Marohi and Inc AoE increases attack range I think - I used Facebreaker AW last League and with Conc Effect the range was absolutely abysmal for my totems so I'm sure AoE affects it.

AW is OP and meta but there are downsides to it.
>Totems - will put people off
>Spirit spawn time will NEVER be increased so there's a delay, if your totems die during a huge Breach and it takes even a micro second to get them up prepare your anus as nothing will hold the flood
>Totem requires you to be in the screen to be active, not the fastest mapper

Pros of AW
>Top tier damage, single and AoE
>Totems will tank for you making it a great bosser
>Cheap to run, get a weapon and start slamming. Upgrade to better shit for more DEEPS
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how come runescape mode doesn't work with DX11
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>>162049880
(you)
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>>162049941
Try it yourself, put texture_quality=10
and it doesn't work
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>>162049605

alright thanks.

imma make a 7k life 75/75 facebreaker gladiator with the totems.

With 600+ hp regen and +250hp per block I'll be pretty much immortal against non-top tier bosses, and the totems will still do 130k+ damage each anyway with inc aoe (near 200k with atziri flask and conc efex).
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>>162048396
Well fuck you all

I'm going shadow
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>>162050045
I wouldn't recommend FB AW.

Pretty much relies on Abyssus and a bunch of Uniques or Phys gear, you'll be so resistance starved - in fact you have to take res nodes on your tree. A regular weapon AW is fine. Also the range bonus on weapons vs unarmed is huge so there's also that.
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>GGG nerfed maps from non-rares in Breaches
>nerfed Beyond+Breaches

>still doesn't fix melee or life or shit skills

really fires the old synapses
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>>162048969
im running both auto life+utility and mana potions and ive yet to see that message

i serioudly doubt you arent using something
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>>162050207

What is the meta builds this time around?

I hit level 87 hc with flameblast memes and i got like 300c

no bladeflurry i dont like how shadow looks
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>>162050207

thats not bad at all considering theres a massive resist +life cluster on the marauder area, and a +15 resistance to all keystone near it

And

>faggot gem - 35% of your fire resistance alloted in the area is converted to block rating

I can get 10% block ez and solve my res.

I dont really like Abyss. I can get 90 base damage from jewelry and bringer of rain, abyssus is 115 base, I can't justify taking 40% phys for that.

also rory said +weapon range doesnt increase the totems "range", only increased area of effect.
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CI Ranger with bow skills? Y/N
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>>162050350
flameblast memes and blade flurry are the two popular builds this league

for some reason no one wants to play spark or essence drain this league
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>>162050323
I hope you aren't playing hardcore cuck
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>>162050470
or course i am kid
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For flameblast what is my 5th link? chance to ignite or Inc aoe/Conc effect?

I'm nowhere near 6 link not totem elementalist
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post ur poors tbqhwu famalam
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>>162050738
how do you make custom tabs like this lol
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>>162029052
Are those numbers with or without ES from int?
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>>162050738
>standard

nice try
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>>162050756
use the offline tab editor
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>>162050756
>he doesn't have the offline tab editor
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>>162050738
wish i had more chisels desu. i don't want to trade my shekels for more
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>>162050572
inc. aoe is really good
you shouldn't need to spend a gem on chance to ignite, a dab'll do you even before you consider shaper of desolation.
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>>162050874
nice photoshop
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>>162050980

The level 100 flameblast dude I saw had chance to ignite as his 6th slot but when i swapped it in it felt pretty good with ele prolif, ill try inc aoe more.
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>Chris H (Programmer) - I'm playing a Chaos Inoculation Flameblast Occultist at the moment called "Burny Sandals". The plan is that she's only allowed to wear sandal-like footwear :) Hoping to do what the first build below does with Chaos conversion and poison but with Flameblast. If it doesn't work out I'll use Firestorm instead. I'm trying to make a combination of these two guides.

Do i dare say he is our guy and also likes witch feet? :)
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how important are jewels

I've got no jewel slots
should I spec them if I want damage? I can get 1 for 1, and 2 for 2 skill points each
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>>162050874

Tfw i have nearly the same ammount of currency as you do. Except my chaos is at 50ish and my chisels at 120 or so.

Oh wait nah, i burned trough 500 fucking jewelers and didnt get a 6link, now im saving up to dump em onto a shavs.
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so i'm at level 71 and barely over 3.1k life. I'm only at 126 life on tree and by level 82 I'll have every life node I'm near besides blood magic. Am I just going to have to accept never being able to do red maps on this build?
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>>162051329
also how do people price jewels? is like 40% damage on a jewel good?
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>>162051092

Honestly, try ashcaller. Just buy a perfect ignite rolled one with 22% ignite chance. Its not the best, but still has 50% burn damage with 20% ignite chance and im crushing everything in T8s and 9s atm, so more dmg in the weapon slot atm is redundant.

Im running a 5 link with FB-Inc aoe- Faster cast - Fire pen - Controlled destruction

I would definitely go with ignite chance as 6th slot so i could upgrade my weapon to something better, but untill then no need to fret about it.
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>>162051426
post build
don't know how you're near blood magic but don't have enough life
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>>162051468
>no life/es
1c and after a week of sitting in the tab do the 5 for 1 vendor recipe to get a new one
>life/es
1ex and lower 5c each day nobody offers.
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>>162051329
pretty important. no other singular node is going to do for you what a good jewel can do
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>>162051329

Yes, the jewels you can pick up for 1 or 2 points are must haves. 1 jewel can be worth as much as 4 points or more.

>>162051468

Like retards. That is how they price them! Protip, use live search on poe.trade to snag good jewels for low money.
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>>162051515
http://poeurl.com/Um1
Raider Cyclone with Ngahamu's Flame. Wearing Surgebinders and Darkrays, plus a goldrim I found that had the attack speed enchant on it. I'm finishing the axe wheel then getting barbarism and juggernaut, and then that's every life wheel I'm next to.
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>>162051643
I'm doin the same build but I'm considering rerolling for Duelist or Marauder just to get more beefy especially when using Vaal Cyclone
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>>162051502

Yeah sounds similar to what i'm doing, i'm using a rare sceptre right now until I can get a doryanis, not many get put up at the times I play.

Is ashcaller better then the sceptre linked? I've gotten pretty far this league early on but I've never been great at poe.
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>>162050801
can tell he's a shitbird because of the chisels

it's easy to see this fecalfowl has never touched red maps
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I literally just made a girlfriend in real life
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i know you lurk here ggg, so im gonna share my genius with you on how to make it big

add waifu mtx skins for the golems, preferably anime ones

there, done

the amount of money you'll rake in means you can shut down your shadow rmt business at last

and fire whatever cuck replaced the orb girls in the process
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>>162051784
I've actually had no issues with regular mobs. I was vaal cycloning tier 6 breaches no problem. But against bosses, if I don't roll a dodge and they get a crit after my endurance charges expire, I just get 1 shot way too much. I'm very close to dropping the Darkrays in favor of a rare with life.
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>>162051848
i'll buy her for 3c pure

not going any lower
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>>162051643
Why are you taking Iron Grip? Do you need it?
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How would you fix melee? And I mean melee as in hand to hend combat, adding ranged skills that use melee modifiers is not a solution to that.
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>>162051968
It applies to the Ngahamu's Flame pretend molten strike, so it's 40% increased damage on half my dps more or less. Those're actually a pretty significant portion of my damage right now, since it's basically a free 7L molten strike.
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>>162051797

Your scepter is slightly better, but i love the consistency ashcaller gives me.

5% cast speed is nice, the res is also nice.

Btw, how much ignite chance do you have? I get 20% from the tree, 13% from flamabillity, and 22% from the wand, so 55% in total.

In the end depends on the playstyle and what feels better to you. Dmg should be comparable.

>>162051819

M8, my map tab is a 1chisel for all maps sell tab, and im running 6-9 now without chiseling shit or doing the chisel recipe and im at around 130 chisels now. Atlas literally gives you free currency for your shitty maps because people still need them for completion.
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>>162052157
Make it similar to RTS games and have it work as an attack move command until you cancel the action by moving, changing target or something. Increase actual melee skill damage by at least 30% across all the skills.

Rework armour and evasion to actually be viable, buff life gain OR stop the incredible power creep and fine-tuning of content which 1-shots people.
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>>162052157

smart(er) autotargeting and target-cycling of nearby monsters in a way that feels seamless and "natural" (think GrimDowns melee)

melee skills should compensate for the extra risk they impose by feeling "fun" to use. this doesnt mean MOAR damage necessarily, but the mechanics needs to be really polished so it doesnt feel like shit as it is now
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>>162052157
The game would need to be restructured into something like Gauntlet 2014

That or just nerf the overall clear speed power creep 1 shot mechanics bullshit to manageable levels.
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>>162052202

I'm at 42% chance to ignite without flammability or chance to ignite, that seems a little low to me, i'm using a lazwhar to get enfeeble+temp+clarity with a level 2 enlighten

I don't really wanna die and I like to do to breaches and I kinda feel like I will with flam.
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>>162052315

Man, grim dawn hits the nail on the head with the melee targeting. Feels so intuitive and smooth.
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>>162042489

I want one of those so bad.
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>>162052157
Make it more like league where you can attack move and kite. Increase base attack speed but nerf scaling so early it's not as clunky but lategame it's slightly better but not broken. Add a defensive buff when you fighting in melee range.
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>>162052369

32% not 42
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Melee
what it should be
>risky face up monsters higher damage output cuz getting hit by a 2x4 piece of steel hurts
>can facetank okay and actually make a tanky build

how it currently is
>melee is just ranged with the same damage and survivability but they risk more for pretty much equal reward and require more input

>the majority of tankiness in the game is defined by pure EHP from life or ES not armour - except for endurance charges but who cares because resistance cap will still get you killed
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>>162052369

Definitely try ashcaller then. The damage should be comparable since at least my build relies on heavy burn damage and not the upfront dmg as much, and in breaches as soon as you get a few burning corpses everything dies.

I did get some really good jewels though, but the ashcallers should be cheap as fuck. So just give it a shot.
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>>162049880
Why do you want to runescape mode if you're running dx11?
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>>162052190
Your build looks so inefficient, so many travel nodes. If it was Duelist/Marauder shit would be easy but you're traveling to the other side of the tree. Like you take 6 travel nodes from Duelists 2H cluster to Marauders Axe cluster, and you only take 5 skill points in that section.
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>>162052157
Just fix armour and rework elemental resistances, life would be fine if armour actually worked and elemental resistances weren't so one-sided flask or get gibbed.

Add more hybrid nodes, like melee damage with move speed, melee damage with increased fortify effect, etc...

Rework Blood Magic.
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>>162052157
How about this: all sources of leech are more potent in close quarters and lose effectiveness against faraway enemies.
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Blood Magic 25% more life pls
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>>162052713
Are you actually retarded?
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>>162050462
I played on launch and it looks like the game has changed quite a bit since I played.

Essence drain is one of the builds I was looking at starting. The other being that leap sweeper build. But I'm basing all this shit on some YouTube video, so I'm sure they're all shit.

Do you still have no choice but to grab every fucking health nodes on the sphere grid in order to live?
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>CI gives 15% more ES and doesn't remove your mana

hhhhhmmmmm
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>>162051848
If she has a dick it doesnt count
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>>162052780
>Do you still have no choice but to grab every fucking health nodes on the sphere grid in order to live?

yesyesyesyesyes
nothing has changed
GGG is fucking incompetent

people joked about path of life nodes a long time ago and life still needs all the nodes it can get
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>>162052841
There is literally nothing wrong with playing a glass cannon in SC.
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>>162052897
most people playing SC still don't play a glass cannon, especially to end game where people who don't even build glass cannon still get 1-shot
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>>162052897

The game cant work as a glass cannon build if you wanna see all the content.

Plus most builds that do a shit ton of damage are also tanky as fuck because meta balanced game where some skills are broken while others are not.
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>>162051426
>>162051643
Drop those 2h damage nodes and swap Surgebinders for better gloves.

I'm running the same build but without the above. I have Phase Accro and Hyrri's Ire for dat dodge and also the Templar AoE cluster and life around it.
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>5L lightning coil is the same price as 5L belly
Wasn't coil like worth exalts a few patches ago? What happened?
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>>162052795

Health always comes with a second layer of defense either evasion/armour or ES

How can CI even compete? Remove ghost reaver from the tree, and suddenly CI will be balanced, because the biggest offender of CI is the huge pool coupled with sustain. While HP gets a small pool with sustain. Instead of having ES with a high pool no sustain and HP with low pool high sustain.
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>>162053290

New fotm chests are in the game.
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>>162053407
Which ones?
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>>162051643
You can still get 75% life from where you're standing. First grab the barbarism cluster on the left and then make your way to the scion wheel grabbing the 12% flask cluster along the way.
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>>162053346
>Remove ghost reaver from the tree
This.
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>>162053012
>drop the damage nodes I'm currently at and spend the points on more travel nodes
did you miss the part where my tree is already currently travel point hell?

Also surgebinders are somewhere between 70 and 130% increased damage, I'm not actually sure how the elemental/physical ratio winds up breaking down. Why the hell would I drop them, especally when you're saying to all spec out of all of my damage on tree?
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maps are hell, my character is pre-CI shit. Can't find some decent whites to craft and gear up
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>>162053465
should I still go for the juggernaut wheel, or skip it?
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>>162053576

>mapping with 3k es
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>>162053438

Brass dome
Kinutsugi
Perfect form
Skin of the loyal
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>Dan (Design) - I'm going for a Scorching Ray Templar but I'm a bit behind at the moment!

that poor soul

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1784458
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>>162053576

>Buy white lvl 74+ ilvl ES chest
>Use alts to roll 90+ flat ES
>aug + regal
>craft haku 70% ES

There you go, can hit nearly 400 ES with minimum luck. Same for shield. And you can end up with 6k ES at the point of hitting dried lake merc.

OR just make a live search on poe.trade for 400 + ES gear.
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>>162053601
Oh yeah, sure, forgot about it. But if you're pure evasion, you may leave the last 4% node for when you have absolutely nothing better to do with points.

And I just looked on the right, for the love of god, grab phase acrobatics.
>>
Is gladiator good?
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>>162052157
buff armor somehow and also make it decrease bleed damage
give evasion a secondary roll that if you get hit, decreases damage slightly based on total
add a support gem that increases weapon range for non-projectile skills
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:^)
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Is a .2% lightning damage leeched as life rearguard worth anything?

Or do people only corrupt for +1 arrow?

Also what do you guys spend your chance orbs on?
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>>162054083

Hmmm, i think you are onto something. I think melee skills really do need a bit more range.

http://imgur.com/jmWp7xk
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>>162054540
>Vaal cyclone with that much radius on a strand
please, I can only get so erect
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>>162052157
You lose fortify if you cast or shoot a skill
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>>162052157
automatic fortify when using a melee weapon and you're within a certain range of an enemy
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reminder to not waste your time with meme flurry and just go slayer cucklone
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>100% phys > fire weapon build
>This is what Cheiftain is for right, this will be great
>Berserker would have been better in every way
Why is berserker the best ascendancy, this isn't fair
>>
died to screen freezing up on a breach

want to try melee - should I go zerker, jug or slayer?
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how do you get flickerstrike up and running to the point where you dont need to manually build charges?

bloodrage + poachers mark?
what do you do against single targets? not flickerstrike?
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>>162055151
>cheiftain uses totems right i should use it for AW
>berserker is better
he cant keep getting away with this
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>>162055215
just use an oro's
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>>162055262
a what?
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>>162055276
oro's sacrifice

it's meant for flickering
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>>162055215
Against bosses your only hope of making flicker not suck is Raider with her new buffs.

Apart from that, Blood Dance shoes are a popular choice.
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>>162055215

Blood rage + poachers as you said

And for single target you get as many as possible frenzy charges to kill whatever before you run out. 7 Frenzy charges should give you around 9-10 flickers = 27 hits.
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>>162055262
>>162055369
>>162055450

>just use this unique XD

fuck all of you
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What's the thing with Viridian jewels this league?
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>>162055214

pls respond
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>>162055575
wtf nigger. both of those uniques are cheap as shit. the way the game works anyway is that uniques are sometimes build enabling. if you don't like that then find a new game you. fucking. RETARD
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>>162055575
>pick an expensive build
>wah why is it expensive
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>>162055236
Don't AW builds go Cheiftain all the time though, i thought that was 'the' build. I haven't been paying attention though.
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>>162055575
>fuck all of you
>Oro is 4 alts
lol
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>>162055575

The whole point of unqiue items is to solve problems you can not with the tree and rares.
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>>162055651
slayer with vaal cyclone
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Traps are fucking OP.
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>>162055908
They're balanced by being absolutely no fun to use.
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>>162055908
They sure are against my dick
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>>162055908

So basically you are saying that OP is a trap.

And everyone knows that traps are gay even with their feminine penis.

Ergo, OP is gay. But that is old news anon.
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>>162055908
>can't leech with them
>they suck to use
>saboteur is fucking garbage after you get chain reaction
sure.
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>>162056210
Why are you using saboteur? Traps have absolutely no problems with offence, pick a defensive ascendancy.
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>>162053495
All I have for damage on my tree is this and Force of Nature and I'm destroying everything that I come across. Planning to get Lava Lash in a few levels though.

You're doing something wrong if you need those 2h nodes.

Surgebinders might be a nice chunk of damage but the build is already tight on good defensive pieces. I wouldn't use both them and Darkrays.
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>>162055908
you should have tried them in perandus
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>>162056772
>bladefall traps one shotting almost everything
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>>162056714
what's your tooltip? what links are you using?
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>>162056328
>trap juggernaut

explain how this'll work
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>>162056913
how it "works" is you make an akward pathing from marauder to the top right of the tree and convince yourself that the points spent travelling are compensated by the "tanky" ascendancy notables that don't really fit in the fast maneuvering dodgy playstyle of traps
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>molten strike could heavy strike with lmp/gmp and added fire damage
>cyclone could be sweep + faster attacks
>lacerate could be cleave + multistrike
>earthquake could be ground slam + sunder
>and so on
Path of Lost Potential
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>>162054198
new srs is shit, SHIT!
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>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1784453

>Non-rare Breach monsters no longer drop maps. All Breach monsters in Breach domains will still drop maps. Because Breaches have so many monsters, these monsters being able to drop maps completely throws off our normal map drop balance. The Breaches are already extremely rewarding, and do not reduce the number of maps that you find from the rest of the area.
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>>162056913
By picking occultist instead.
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>primordial eminence: 3c
>primordial harmony: 4c
>primordial might: 120c
wtf happened, why is it so expensive?
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>>162057456
>shit
>shit
>enormous bonus to damage and ai that isn't garbage
hmmm i wonder
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>going for quick 5L
>get a 6L
>on a cloak of flame

i mean.. nice, but who the fucks gonna buy this
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>>162057613
ghudda is making a vaal cyclone emberwake build and CoF is his chest. Save it for when he publishes that build, price will skyrocket.
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>>162057712
>https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ghudda/characters
how the fuck does that build even work?
vaal breach then spin2win and prolif ignites everywhere?
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>>162057493
how is increased effect of buffs on you shit
or increased attack and cast speed of golem
or shitton of armor
whereas to get that damage you have to constantly resummon your golems, wasting a lot of time
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>>162057456
>stats
>stats
>stats + ai fix for minions

The one major issue that prevents minion builds to completely take over the game is the AI and that jewel fixes it.
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>>162058060
So dual clayshaper is the go to summoner build nowadays?
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>>162058252

1 should be enough, why pass the survivability a shield gives you.
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>>162056886
12,7k with Herald of Ash (which I'll drop once I go Blood Magic) and something like 25k charges up in a 4L with Cyclone+WED+MPD+FA

The burst is avg dmg of 3,5k unbuffed with GMP+CONC+WED+PPAD+Point Blank+Fire Pen

On top of that I'm running Blasphemy Flammability which I'll also drop when I go Blood Magic.

The weapon itself is a mid range roll and I have no extra WED or flat elemental damage on my gear.
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>play poe straight for 24 hours
>hit late merc with some pretty baller gear
>didn't touch breaches since normal
>I am hitting like a truck might as well open one
>open breach
>army of doom appears
>well fuck this I am outta here
>hit alt+tab instead alt+f4
>respawn in town
fuck
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>Breach monsters now have a lower chance to spawn Beyond portals.

REEEEEEEEEEE
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Spectral Throw leveling tips? Elemental build
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After how many hours did you start making your own builds?
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>>162058862
0
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guys i just found a rats nest in sc breach. do i try to get a dank ass enchantment on it in a lab or just sell it for the 15 c now?
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>>162058851

>grab spoocy toss
>put banana mtx on
>buy a fidelitas spike
>turn on as many auras as you can

Pretty much this i guess.
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>>162058996
you're wasting your time if you dont need the head enchant
chances are way too low
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>>162059165
ok thanks
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>>162059146
I'm guessing I sustain mana from the ranger mana leech cluster early and then the duelist leech cluster later, right? If I pick up hatred and herald of ice, what do I use for defense? I'm guessing just stacking life and evasion.
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>>162057313

Careful, you're being too creative!
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Any temp hc players? How has your league journey been so far Anons?

Image related
>mfw I hit 10es
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>>162058814
it was kinda insane though
opened a breach on a beyond map yesterday
i spawned 2 beyond bosses and Abaxoth
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>>162059923
>went cyclone chieftain
>got that new sick fire axe + AoF
>mfw I'm now a moving torning leaving nothing but ashes in my wake
>mfw shit's great so far
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Is breach league just a gigantic cockslap to HC players?
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>>162059776

No, you buy an elreon ring or GULP GULP GULP
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Holy shit, just got BF and it's strong. No wonder it's FOTM.
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>>162060070
>Cyclone Chieftain with Ngamahus Flame
breddy gud
wish I'd have thought of that, found one of those Axes but already sold it
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>>162059936

I know, i just loved doing double beyond maps for that reason. So much fucking loot.
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>>162059923
oro's sacrifice sweeper, just hit maps. it's ok but could use more fire pen. Using defensive auras so can't slot in blasphemy flammability
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>>162060192
GULP GULP GULP it is then
Also for links ST - LMP - Faster Attacks - Phys Proj Attack Damage + WED, right?
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>>162057361
nah it's good i just got hit

don't get hit
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>tfw still only 2/6 ubertrials after 2 days of mapping
wtf is this shit
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>>162060446
It's entirely possible to never get all 6 through the whole lague. Happened to me in essence.
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>>162059923
RF Chieftain

It's fun but I'm actively avoiding breaches in maps because they're scary as fuck. On another note, fuck factory, its garbage layout, its shit density and its boring boss, I sure didn't miss that horrible map.
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the tul breach is so fucking broken
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alright so this game looks really overwhelming but i love a challenge. with my very minuscule knowledge of the game i think the chieftain and necromancer look fun. would either of them fair me well?
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>>162058787
My first Chaos breach I got oneshot before I even saw a monster
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>>162059776
>hatred
>on an ele build
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>>162060807
Fuck I'm actually retarded. I guess I'll drop it for another herald or maybe a blasphemy + curse.
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>>162035646
what is that even about? it says nothing about PoE from him til now
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Hey guys, I'm thinking of reinstalling. Been a few years since I last played.

Does PoE have an Auction House yet?
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When does frost blades fall off in damage output btw

because I've used it up to 30 before I switched to blade flurry and it still oneshots packs
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>alkaizer plays one time for a week and chances a skyforth
>I've been chancing sorecers since it came out and never got one
>streamer RNG is not real guise!! xD
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looks like papa rng is on my side today, life roll is shit but sweet baby jesus those resists
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>>162060732
Chieftain will, totem gameplay gives you great survivability. There is a very rough start though, it's best to simply play something other than totems until lv 35-ish.
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>>162060959
poe.trade
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When do I get to the point where I need to grind? Going through the story and lab for a 2nd time is getting kinda boring and I'm not looking forward to a 3rd time.
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>>162061251
>human interaction still required
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>>162061251
>having to talk to inbred nigger cunts

Nope.
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>>162061302
It gets interesting in act 3 merciless.
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Does anyone even open breaches anymore?

The risk/reward ratio is fucking pathetic.
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>>162061381
the risk is dying and the reward is surviving

loot doesn't matter
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Stopped playing on July '15 and I'm back for this season. There's a whole lot of new things I never heard of, so bear with me.

My question is very simple. Are my resistances good enough for cruel labyrinth? I'm lvl 60 btw.
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>>162061420
>loot doesn't matter
>ARPG
>loot
>doesn't
>matter

Look if I wanted a story I'd go play Baldur's Gate, Morrowind, Dragon's Age etc.
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>>162061420
>the risk is dying
>the reward is surviving
>mapping without breaches offers less of the former and more of the latter

great reason anon :^)
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>>162061504
>>162061523
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What happened with different leagues for hardcore and softcore? It's how things were back then, right? I'm not going crazy, right?

Is GGG going lazy so they make just one batch of new content?


>>162061381
I do it for the XP, if I feel I'm gonna die I just run away from it.
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>/poeg/ is now literally too casual to open breaches
>in softcore
Can't make this up.
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show me your best breach ring
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HOW TO FIX BLIGHT

>Increase base chaos damage by 40% (making it 75% after the 2.5.0 buff at Lv20)
>Increase damage by 25% for each stack
>Reduce max stacks to 5 while keeping the damage and scaling per stack as if it were still 20, adding up to 200% damage at 5 stacks
>make it so the slow decays after the initial hit instead of falling off instantly
>Increase forward range by 50%(?)
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>>162061620
The game itself feels more casual than some years ago.
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are staff templars viable now

i wanna make a battlemonk
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>>162061659
We have enough skills where damage grows with time. Blight should have consistent damage from the get go, slowing effect is what could scale with stacks.
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Fucking fire effects on breaches are gonna fry my fucking GPU
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>>162060990
It's a red map viable skill but it's harder to scale because the aoe is limited and it doesn't fit well together with poison being an ele convert skill.

That and it uses namelock targeting which sucks ass unless you use ahk scripts.
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>>162047989
This is a good change.
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>>162061495
Your EHP is much more important for lab.
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>>162061039
>I understand literally nothing about probability
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>>162061867
your GPU is dying anyway m8

dust y
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>>162061901
But what am I supposed to do with all this now?
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>>162061381
What the fuck are you talking about? There's like 500 hundred BLUE mobs in a Breach, do you realize how much extra exp that is if you can full clear it? AND they have improved loot table, you can break even with one Breach even if you spent currency rolling the map, the risk:reward ratio is extremely worth it if your build can handle Breach
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>>162061745
If the damage wouldn't scale there wouldn't be a point in channeling it at all. It's just that the scaling/aoe is too shit. It's way worse compared to Scorching Ray.
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>Allies cannot die rare spawns
>dies
https://clips.twitch
.tv/zizaran/RealSalmonShadyLulu
Breach in a nutshell
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>>162062108
>lightning spiders have soul eater so no vaal skills for you
>they shit lightning orbs under you that you can't see in the visual cancer that is breaches
>if you stand on one you die

>cold breaches have buffed ice golems chasing you outside the breach
>the rares are tanky as a motherfucker with their huge vortex aura that chills
>frost blades faggots do more damage on t1 maps than normal mobs do on t15

>chaos breach is just NOPE unless you're CI

On the positive fire and physical are fucking pushovers. It's just that you have a 3/5 chance the actual numbers are probably something entirely different to get fucked over if you open one
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>>162062313
how do I know what kind of breach it is before opening it?
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>>162062301
>literally drops below 1fps
.playing hardcore on that much of a potato
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>>162062379
You don't.
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>>162062313
It's definitely not evenly weighted as the chaos breach is incredibly rare, and you can always bail out of it if you find one and are playing a >life build

Regardless, high risk paired with high reward is still worth it, I stand by my point, otherwise if you want to maximize risk:reward ratio you'd never ever leave Dried Lake or non threatening blue maps
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>>162062301
What's that 3rd party thing to change how the loot appears on screen?
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>>162027180
Chieftain flame totem
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>>162062458
Loot filters.

They got added a few leagues ago.

You can make your own or download one made by someone.

Neversink's filter is the most popular I think.
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>>162062458
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Item_filter
not a 3rd party program, just a script the game can use
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>>162061504
Morrowind has a story?
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>>162061381
gitgud
or ignore if you are playing hardcore.
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>>162062496
Second, I like it because you can pretty much swap between anything fire related on your totems without changing your passives. Except maybe AoE near templar.
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>>162062594
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>find a real mjolner
>its worth 4c

fuck you chris
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>>162062614
>just ignore content if you are playing hardcore xD
Sorry, that just means you're playing babbycore in a red flag league. Do you consider people who vspark to 90 in Dried Lake to be hardcore too?
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>>162062594
Shh, you'll trigger all the nostalgia fags that can't see that morrowind is a piece of shit.
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Just installed it yesterday and I really enjoy it, although it came out somewhat confusing in the beginning and still some parts I don;t quite understand.
Question: how many opportunities will I have to unfuck my character in lategame? I don't want to watch any guides or builds, wanna try everything myself, but in case I fuck up (and I know I probably will), will there be a second chance for me? Or will it be new character time?
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>>162062037
You can learn to be more efficient with your time, and realize that any time wasted doing the chisel recipe is time you could have spent running dozens of others maps
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>>162062783
considering the amount you will fuck it up, i'd say no second chances

you get a few (10-30) re-do's on a skillpoint but if you go in blind you'll fuck up your tree so bad you'd probably need 50-70. That said, rerolling aint bad, you'll do it dozens of times anyway.
>>
https://clips.twitch
.tv/zizaran/MuddyFoxHotPokket

kek
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>>162062824
>muh speed
It's a game, not an optimization problem.
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>>162062693
fuck off faggot i'm the nerevarine
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>>162062783
>If you want to adjust your passive build during gameplay, there are Passive Skill Refund points available from quests or relatively rare items in the game that can be found or traded for. Fixing mistakes with a character build or improving small-medium sized aspects is relatively easy, but our intention is that players who want to try substantially divergent character builds are encouraged to play a new character through the game, organically leveling it up rather than just respeccing into it.
From the official site. It's VERY easy to fuck up your tree as a beginner, just consider it a learning lesson and reroll with your newfound knowledge once you hit a wall you can't overcome within 10-20 respec points
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>>162062919
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>>162062937
Huh, that argument doesn't even begin to fly when you're doing tedious shit like chisel recipe, speed farm t1 corrupted maps and you'll make a lot more currency, chisels included, with natural drops than you'll ever make with the recipe

100% outdated recipe unless you're SSF
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>>162062671
i dont consider people playing in hardcore leagues good at all due to them lacking the mechanical skill that every softcore player acquires sooner or later.

This is fact, just look at all these "rip" videos, the players have absolutely terrible decision making, reaction time and overall apm. And then look at a video of a softcore doing same content deathless, its miles apart in terms of the skill difference, simply because softcore allows you to practice actual content, hardcore just sends you back to grind "tutorials"

permadeath is great for roguelikes, and i love roguelikes, poe isnt a roguelike.
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>>162062917
I'm pumping my elemental penetration and totems branches as a templar, so far it's working pretty well. But holy shit there is just so much stuff to choose from
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>>162063132
>watch a hardcore player at his worst moment
>compare it to a softcore shitter who died 100 times on the same content and recorded one lucky run

based retard
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>>162034595
I think chieftain flame totem can use that
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>>162063132
Not even relevant to the subject at hand (breaches) since they're almost entirely about build rather than skill. A good player can outplay an Atziri or Shaper fight... since they're mechanical fights. A good player cannot outplay 500 swarming blues rushing to him with hasted, sub phys rares spawning, no matter of clever (re)positioning is going to help you if you don't have the defense/offense to deal with it. It's 95% outbuilding it, not outplaying it. It shouldn't be an issue for hardcore players since having a good build is of primordial importance rather than going turbo fast max dps because one death here and there is fine bro xD If your build is shit and cannot handle it, you're not suited for hardcore, period
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I'm level 40 and this blade flurry skill feels clunky as fuck
Why is everyone playing this?
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>>162063495
it gets better
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>>162063495
What's your attack speed?
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>>162063495
it scales exceedingly well with
your weapon
attack speed
crit
aoe

if any of those is lacking, you're playing a subpar version of the skill, which is going to feel "clunky", like try to play blade vortex with no aoe or cast speed, does it feel good?
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>>162063448
>A good player cannot outplay 500 swarming blues rushing to him with hasted, sub phys rares spawning
any braindead monkey can do shaper and atziri after watching a run once
coming on top in an unpredictable "low odds" situation is what actually separates good from the rest.
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>>162063690
>fps drops to 0 after I open a breach
>after the game starts running again I'm already dead

Sure is skill dependant.
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>>162063671
>>162063602
>>162063531
What am I doing wrong?
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>>162063690
Atziri/Shaper are build/gear/skill checks. A good player with shit gear can do Atziri. A bad player with extremely good gear will still die to Shaper.

Breaches are build/gear checks. People have been running them just fine in hardcore because they're used to having good builds that prioritize both defense and offense, not just offense i.e. not your typical 5k life crit Mathil build. Saying you need to avoid breaches in hardcore is just admitting you play shitcore builds, works fine in a league where death doesn't matter, not so much in hardcore where that's not a possibility.
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>>162063905
this is just your computer being shit
i get no lower than 30 fps in a breach on a fucking laptop
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>>162063905
Yeah that's your pc :|

I, at worst, drop to 30/35 fps on a 2012 setup
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>>162063923
Well you don't have AoE, should get better with the gem. Also that's not the real dps with Hatred+HoA on so your dps shouldn't be really that terrible. You're already at 700+ dps pre auras, pre channeling extra attacks.
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>>162063923
I'm at 37 and have 4.41 attacks per second. Grab a weapon with base 1.50 for starters.
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>>162063936
>Saying you need to avoid breaches in hardcore
im not the one "saying" that, its just what the hardcore majority does, like it or not

as for other arguments, for hardcore players the entire game turns to build/gear checks, you cucks will only play whats the current top meta build and the most hipster of you will play the second best, because you dont have neither skill nor wisdom. All you are good for is spamming "hurr turdbirds amirght?" while waiting for poe.trade to message you for your next gear upgrade because you are "stuck"
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>>162026658
I noticed while leveling that they dropped shards but they don't in endgame...

It's possible that GGG stealth-nerfed their drops.
>>
How do I gain splinters from the Breach bosses? Is it just random?
>>
What is better for Raider Cyclone, 2H or dual wield?
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>>162064227
>>162064079
Well I guess I'll try that, but if it doesn't get better I'll come back and anime post you
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>>162064319
You need to do damage to them. The more damage you manage to do the more splinters you get.
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>>162064239
>its just what the hardcore majority does, like it or not
How do you figure? Do you have access to data we don't have? Or are you just an idiot talking out of his ass?
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I made a disastrously rippy Witch and need a new build, what should I play?
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>>162064319
the lords? random i guess, the ONE I met after 85 levels dropped a bunch and I didnt do anything special beside woop his ass
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>>162031774

kek sold a tri res regalia with 500 es and 25-35 res each for 25c this league.
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>>162064319
They will randomly appear in Breaches, yeah. You just need to hit them a few times to ensure that they'll drop a splinter.

I'm still missing the physical one and I have a 90 and an 80.
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>>162064541
a two hand max block witch
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>>162064541
Blade Flurry Raider
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>>162062301
>elemental reflect rare spawns in my firestorm
>ded

Thanks breaches.
I still like them though. League is so much more fun than Essence.
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>>162064442
Anyone?
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>>162064669
>League is so much more fun than Essence.

That's not saying much. It was the worst league, conjured up just to screw you out of stash space.
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Is melee damage on full life worth it as a cyclone slayer?

I mean, life leech keeps going on at full life thanks to the ascendancy bonus and i regen 500+hp naturally and will have like 110k dps without conc effect so I should perpetually be at full life (or insta gibbed at 7k hp).

Should I swap it in instead of added fire (which gets 75% resisted anyway)?
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>>162064757
dw
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>>162057456
Really? Nice, I never checked might, I'm glad it got picked as the expensive one because that's the one I'm not using, I'll be using an Eminence and 4 Harmony.
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>>162058814
it was fun while it lasted
>>
people are such jews in this game i swear
>try buying an item listed at 23c
>only have 20c
>offer 20c
>no

bought it from someone else so whatever.
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>>162064875
man wtf happened? Did your gfx shit the bed?
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>>162064541
Chieftain flame totem
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>>162064810
doesn't work with blood rage, since there's a technical limitation putting you at 99.99% life no matter what regen you have, so no.
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>>162061381
i don't know

i'm pretty happy walking out of maps with 2-3 extra chaos from almost every breach
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>>162064950
It's a rare-ish dx11 bug. I get it too sometimes.
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>>162061381
I open every breach in softcore :^)
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>>162064950
i think it's a dx11 related graphical glitch that sometimes happens

now it happened when we got haast spawn in the middle of a breach
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>>162061601
>What happened with different leagues for hardcore and softcore?

was sort of a waste of developer time and effort. only a small portion of players actually play hardcore modes so they would develop a whole mechanic for a small part of the games population. Plus this way it doesn't matter how you want to play you can get the new league mechanics.
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>>162064920
>hello sir i see your eggs cost 2$ i only have 1$ can I have them?
>no...
>YOU FUCKING KIKE SJW KEK
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>>162065000
>>162065081

I feel like most of the time GGG just adds or changes stuff and hopes that it works baka
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>>162064920
Had the same experience. Why don't these idiots list it with a fixed price?

And then they get mad when you're trying to barter.

I know you people can't hear it anymore, but fuck this trading system. Easily the biggest downside of the game.
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>>162065176
>don't want to be bartered with
>still barter
>WHY YOU GET MAD??????

but yeah, many people take that stuff WAY too seriously
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>>162064976

>blood rage

whyd i want to use that?
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>>162065107
Actually the reason they switched to one league mechanic per leagues was because they initially hoped players would play both HC and SC but found that they would instead just stick to one or the other.
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>>162065176
Meanwhile, somewhere else...

>player offers me slightly less than my b/o or more but in mixed currencies
>is polite and upfront about it
>we trade
>everyone is happy
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>>162065296
frenzy charges are pretty cool i hear
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>>162065176
why would i take less from you when someone else will come in and buy it for more?
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>>162065143
I would agree with you if the eggs cost $2. It's more like
>I see you marked your eggs up from $1 to $1.30. I offer you the fair price that eggs retail for of $1
>fuck off
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>>162065312
That barely makes any sense. The biggest incentive to switch between the leagues would be a unique league specific mechanic.
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>played flameblast totems last league
>great clear, great damage and good defenses (muh totuhms)
>want to try self cast flameblast this league
>nearly die all the time because I have to stand there and channel like a retard
>shit clearspeed because shit movement speed

If this piece of shit character didn't one shot bosses I would've rerolled days ago
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so the ele dmg implicit on sceptres doesn't apply to spells at all?
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>>162065586
it does apply to spells
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>>162065472
>eggs are out of stocks everywhere
>raise the price on my eggs because they're harder to get so their price inflated
>guy gets mad at me when i refuse to sell them for less while the guy behind them will buy me out for the price im asking

haggling is fine but when someone tells you to fuck off because he knows what its worth you aint got shit to complain

if a few chaos aint a big deal go and farm some more you jew
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>>162065565
I dunno man I did self cast flameblast last league and didn't die once I got to maps. CI always helps
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so is this all they did for CI in 2.5?
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>>162065675
Bro you're completely making this scenario up. The same item I was trying to buy yesterday is listed for 20c this morning and 20c yesterday. They weren't out of stock it's a fairly common unique.
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>>162065678
thats because you weren't being swarmed by blue mobs and spells

flameblast in breaches is a tricky thing, you either get a big cast off before you get swarmed and let the prolif keep you save or you're fucked

not having any decent leech doesnt help either
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>>162065565
just a matter of adjusting and not being shit at the game
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>>162065348

>warlords mark cwdt
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>>162065718
so buy the ones for 20c, why bother haggling with a guy who listed it for 23? clearly he wants 23 and not 20
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>>162065763
Yeah that's a good point. Breaches are kind of build killers. Unless you have crazy life leech and dps you just get overwhelmed and murdered.
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>>162065848
Not him but that's easier said than done when the first 30 people you whisper don't respond.
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>>162065697
Essences of WoE are a LOT rarer now and roll lower rolls. Rumi's nerfed and less flask charges map mod hurt builds that rely on flasks more, like CI. All hits ignite new map mod. No regen now applies to ES regen too.
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>>162065957
exactly, there are no others who sell eggs, they may advertise but they aren't selling

if you don't agree with someones price you don't buy it, no need to get mad that he wont sell it for less
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>>162065795
>warlords mark
>frenzy charges

uhhh try again
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Found a 260 phys dps foil, bless BF meta
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>>162066054
>they may be advertising but they aren't selling
and this isn't a jewish conspiracy HOW, exactly? That's exactly what a jew would do, set up all his friends to fuck with the prices listing things they have no intention of selling then when frustration mounts the person will be willing to buy overpriced garbage just to be done with the whole process; they are more likely to not try to haggle after going through a dozen attempts at purchase already. It's like clockwork, happy merchants run everything.
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>>162066054
actually GGGs public stash API performance is fucked and going to be fixed in the next patch.
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>>162066371
it's not some jewish conspiracy you fucking retard, people are afk or can't be bothered with a sale for some reason. even if someone is trying to price fix its not to frustrate you into overpaying it's to lower the price and buy up the competition for less

fuck off trying to get preferential treatment, either pay the price or go annoy someone else
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What damage type does Uul-Netol deal

Just physical?
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what if poe required an economics degree to make an account
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>>162032691

Dismantle is based as fuck.
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I am THIS close to RMT a shav.
Convince me to not do it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj2zKoRSPRU&t

Thank you papa Chris for this wonderful addition to the game!
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>>162065450
Then put it in with a fixed price and save everyone the confusion you Jewish fucking piece of trash
And don't get upset when I'm offering less. You don't want offers? PUT IT IN WITH A FIXED PRICE SCHLOMO.
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>>162068016
offering is fine, but if i tell you to fuck off dont go on here bawling your eyes out because I didn't want to pay the retard tax
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Are currency stash tabs shared between characters or limited to only one?
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>>162068572
mate... normal stash tabs are shared in the first place
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>"ES is expensive"
>"Crafting is expensive"
>Craft a 500 ES 5L chest for 15c
Lifebabs?
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>>162069036
>500 ES
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>>162069036
good luck getting 10k es with shit gear like that
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I remember that I could play both diablo and titan quest without being too intelligent about my choice of stats and abilities and without too much or any grind at all.
How much pre planinng would this game take, I want to try it again, but I don't have too much free time to invest.
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>>162068909
Oh didn't know that.Couldn't see that stats tabs of my standard league character and thought they are not shared.
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>>162069226
good luck getting 10k life ever
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>>162069584
technically, es is worse than life, point for point
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>>162067913
fuckin wew what a joke of a skill
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I'm glad I decided to go BF instead of FB totems, doing breaches without leech sounds like a pain in the ass
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>>162069336
follow a build guide then
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>>162069336
better to invest time into building a good tree than playing a bad one
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>>162064875
I'm getting some of those glitches on breaches too

also from Vorici
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>>162069492
oh right they're not cross league, but you'll get your extra tabs in each league for all characters (including future leagues)
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>goys bitching about trading
>already have dozens of exalts on bhc by currency arbitrage and filps while playing pokemon
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>first chaos of the day

i've had pretty nice rng this league desu, i wonder if it's because i bought a supporter pack
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>>162070054
Is there some kind of ranged build that uses that point blank skill? I remember that looking interesting a couple of years ago. Or some kind of a high attack speed ranged build. I got bored of all the melee from diablo and TQ.
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>>162070683
used to be a chin sol marauder that might have used it idr
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>>162070683
Tornado shot used to use it, I don't know if it still does. Trap builds that use bow skills in the trap use it.
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Do you do the unid chaos/regal recipe? I know its probably worth it but I just cant bring myself to sell an unid ring or amulet.
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>>162067769
Just play chieftain flame totem
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>>162071124
i did it in the beginning but it's way too clunky and annoying to keep doing
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>>162071383
how hard is it to stash unid rings/ammy/belts

then once you get a set add in the other pieces for FREE chaos
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>-40% block
>-40% armor
what the fuck are these bullshit mods

what do they want? Everyone to run CI with 15k shield and enough DPs to 1 shot everything?
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>>162071561
i know but i just hate to do it, once i hit a certain point with my wealth i just can't make myself to do it
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>>162071607
Do people like this just exist to bitch about everything? I have 6200 life with 700 life Regin and a 3300 health over 4 second flask and I'm clearing to t11 so far. You ever try not being a little bitch Nigga?
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>>162055908
Traps are fucking awful for anything after leveling.

If your build can't leech, it's shit.
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>beyond sight II prophecy in pyramid
>mfw now I have to search every floor
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>>162069226
Pretending to be dumb? I had a low life build (read: shavs with sub 500 ES) last league that hit 10k ES. 500 is plenty for start of league.
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>>162055908

Traps are cute.
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>>162071910
Untrue you dumb nigger. Totem builds are doing just fine. Blade fall / bear trap can one shot atziri in all phases easily. You just fucking suck if you think you need to rely on leach with a character that literally doesn't stop moving and running away
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>>162072062
it was pretty fun and easy to do uber with bf traps during perandus

i'm glad they brought some sense to it all though, i'd hate having to roll trapper every league
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>>162072062
Chieftain leeches through totems, you know.
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>>162072274
Chieftan also has 6 or 7% natural life regen, with auto endurance charge generation. He would literally be fine without leach. Also, that's only chieftain.
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I played one season of PoE a year ago and it was pretty fun. What is a good but cheap build I can do? Something that's fun to play and can take on the latest content once I get better equipment too? Is there anything like that?
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>>162072184
This kind of mentality is why streamers are cancer, people can't think for themselves.

They see bf trap or bv is good, and they are so obsessed with the meta, they can't play anything but what is proven to be widely over powered, and say dumb shit like "I'd hate to have to play trapper" as if anything was forcing you at all.

In other words, kill yourself sheep
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>>162071901
So what are you saying>

You have a big enough health pool you can survive long enough to press a button and clear everything regardless of your defenses?

How does that invalidate what i said?

>B-but with really gear you can get to 8k+
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>>162072593
ancestral warchief or essence drain or blade flurry

blade flurry's not really as cheap though
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>>162072593
This same dumb gay question is asked 50 times a day and answered 50 times a day. I think I could find 10000 threads asking the same thing.

Just Google it, or reddit it, or check the forums, or this thread for the other 90 people who asked retard.

We get it, you're retarded and need a cheap build to play to fix your retarded head, so go play flame totem
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>>162072518
On that note, it kind of confuses me why do people need endurance charge generation. Just pop an enduring cry and they're full.
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>>162072695
I'm saying you're a fucking idiot if you think you need ci with 15k shield to clear all content, you dont. Life still works fine you dumb shitter
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>>162071124
Sometimes.

Mostly I just rush through maps, only picking up shit i know is valuable and jewelry.
Then when I have a few tabs of shitty jewelry and I wanna map with netflix on a second monitor I take my time and pick up rares to complete the chaos recipe.

Variety is the spice of life.
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>>162072880
>life still works
>im complaining about the retarded mod that kills defenses globally making anything but big CI or lifepools viable while 1 shotting everything cause if it goes too long you are going to get hit too much in a row and die

How can you be so fucking retarded? i mean seriously dude
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>>162072858
Mostly because it's a cast time and when you're getting hammered, your immortal call is spamming. And you can't pop enduring cry as fast as it can trigger, but a couple totems can sustain charges as fast as it going off. Also, enduring cry taunts. And as a totem guy, you don't want that
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>>162069859
good thing i can get 2 points of ES for the price of 1 life
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>>162073105
Sorry, what ? You want to play a defensive build without life pool or ci and it doesn't work and you're mad? How retarded are you? Shut the fuck up and go play mine craft you dumb nigger


Here is a guy complaining he can't run with 1 life and just block all attacks
Holy shit you're dumb
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>>162073128
sounds balanced
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>>162073228
o look you keep writing shit i didnt say

Why bother with defenses if you are going to get fucked by mods and having a big lifepool is enough to pull through?

>Core game mechanics are shit and need fixing
>Doesnt matter i can just not use them!
>no problem at all
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>>162073376
To mitigate issues where you'd otherwise take fatal damage? If you want to take 40% block to make it easier to get through a map you can.

If you want to not take it, and go through a map slower, you can. Don't pretend like 40% block does nothing, you can be a lot more ballzy if you have it. A map mod existing doesn't change that, otherwise reflect maps wouldn't exist because everyone that can be reflected would just delete their builds. It's only specific map mods that do it, stop being a giant fucking idiot for once
>>
So is ZiggyD's Golemmancer build still good? I intiially wanted to do it at the start of the league but the price for Primordial gems went through the roof so I'm using a generic cyclone build to get money.

But, I don't want to spec into a build that's shit. Is it shit now? Or is it still fun?
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>havent been able to progress because job taking up too much time and didnt feel like playing on the weekends
>uncle calls
>"hey anon we're just gonna take today off
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>>162073879
Just summon a golem and see if you like it. If you like how he attacks, sure you'll find it fun.

If your judgement of fun is literally "is this build op", then just play blade flurry and quit asking gay dumb questions
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>No open mod slots

Why, God? WHY
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>>162073879
it's alright but it's going to be expensive as fuck. You can get better builds for cheaper.
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>>162074026
>no +int

It's shit anyways
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>>162072770
>>162072783
Thanks anons! Can you provide some links for cheap builds?
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well that was easy as fuck
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>>162074104
not with that new lightning res to crit unique
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is this good xp
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>>162073575
>defenses are an outdated mechanic
>I should be able to breeze through everyhting without much thought cause i can kill verything in one shot anyways

I dont understand why you keep insiting on the same shit

>Only the skills that allow me to 1 shot shit off screen should be viable
>the game should be about 1 shooting and running fast regardless of what your ubild is so long you have enough health to survive 1 or 2 hits in a row
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>>162074483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oykHrSvO7j0
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>>162074738
A tier

A decent build does around 150 and a good one does 200~ then there is vaal spark that can get 300m+ with relative ease
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>game has been out for 3 years
>still no AH

:^)
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>>162074905
good, fuck an auction house.
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>>162074483
I WILL NOT MASTURBATE DURING THE FIRST WEEK OF THE LEAGUE
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>>162075302
>ahegao
>big breasts
>bodysuit
>catgirl
>exhibitionism
>masturbation
>nakadashi
>pantyhose
>stockings
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>>162074819
>>162075302
Thanks anons. Have this!
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>>162075623
this is a blue board anon and i see a butthole
DELET
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>>162075490
>>162075623
Delete this.
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>>162075623
do you think mio likes in the pooper?
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>>162032691
action bronson plays PoE?
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>>162074738
>current exp: 700k
Come back when you're in your 90s, not below level 80.
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place your bets
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>>162077135
Boots
>>
help me with starter build /poeg/
something cheap and in meta
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>>162077291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYEBwNGilv4
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>>162077228
not this time
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>>162077583
Trash it
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>>162077291
when in doubt use pizzasticks
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>>162076283
>>162076658
>>162076704
>You cannot delete a post this old.
Well fuck. I didn't notice the butthole, sorry.
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Anyone here experienced with CI ED?

So you take blasphemy+ temp chains, discipline and clarity.

How would a tree for that look like?

I did this so far, not sure if im doing it right tho. Do i need much more aura nodes?

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMBAAMeA-4HHtWmDXwOSGjyES8RUBGWE20UCRV-FdcWvxcvGGo87xpsGF0bJRzcHRSX9B2-H0Ei9K3xJogo-isKLKYsvzOHNbk3g-Qi73y3MUlRSbFLrlXWVmNXyVgHXEBca13yZOdp2GwLbRl1nnaCeC985X6hf8aApILHjHaESIauh8uPGo9Gj_qQ1pJ0kyeVLpuhPAWdrqEvpuunCKcrp5u0DLTRtUi3MLiTu_y-isBmw23G98gMytPPFdfP2Vvfit-wnjzpAuq662Pr7uwY74jw1UVH98H31_k3-ej60jLRKU9SUz1f
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>>162075302
New zone thing just came out senpai

It's 16 minutes long

You can thank me later ;^)
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How do people put two %increased ES mods on the same chest? I've never tried to craft in this game.

I'm guessing you roll flat ES and %, then multimod and Regal?

Trying to do something with pic related. I don't care about res, only ES. Pretty sure I can't get another ES roll on there since it's already rare, right?
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>>162078476
None of it is sfw. Even that one. Not sure why you feel the need to shit up the thread.
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>>162078557
>doesn't link it
1-555-Come-on-now
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>>162078598
hybrid %es and %es are two different mods
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>>162078598
Usually means one is hybrid roll that came with another mod, and one is a regular roll. Also, the item you posted is flat es, and % es, which is perfectly normal
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>>162078734
>>162078772

Yeah, I'm saying I see chests on poe.trade that have 2x %Increased ES mods.

How do? Dumb luck?
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>>162078598
there are 3 ES modifiers

Flat ES
% ES
% ES/Stun recovery hybrid

you can get all 3 rolled and you can only master craft %es and flat es (shit roll)

most crafters either chaos spam untill they hit something good or alt spam till they hit 2 t1 ES rolls

exilemods.com is a good site to check affixes
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>>162078858
Well fuck me.

FUCK. ME.

Cheers.
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>>162078847
if they have hybrid %es/stun recovery and master craft a %es then they show up separately
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So why is Inquisitor preferred to Hierophant for pizzasticks builds? Does the 8% damage reduction per totem really add up to the point where four totems and the various other bonuses isn't worth it?

I'm running my build through A2M right now and haven't done the trials, so any insight on that would be appreciated.
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So when my defence says 75% (93%) does that mean I have capped resistances when in a merciless map or what
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>>162078976
So you try to roll Flat ES + ES% & Stun recovery, then regal and craft % ES... got it.

RIP Alts.

Also...guy bought this and 6L'd it first try.
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>>162079072
Really more totems only helps against bosses. For the most part, 2 totems will kill everything for a long time. So, cast speed helps those totems a lot more than an extra totem, since most things are dead before then, and the cases where more would help, it's hard to use, see atziri where the totems die instantly anyways.
>>
WHY

IS ESSENCE DRAIN

SO FUCKING

GARBAGE

its a fucking pain to play, the projectile is too slow.

and the singletarget has to be the worst in the game
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>>162079312
first number is applied capped resistance
second is your total amount minus difficulty penalty
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>>162079475
link it with trap
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>>162079072
Can you really not see what Inq has over Memephant on your own when comparing the two? are you really that clueless?
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>>162079475
It's not bad but it is boring. I was considering thinking of a way to do occultist blight totems, but with the new shield it seems they want totems to be fire based or phys based. Meh
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>>162079475
8/10 made me reply
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>>162079315
you can't roll flat es and %es/stun recovery with alts, cause they're both prefixes
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>>162079315
no, all the ES mods are prefixes. you can only have 1 prefix on a magic item which is what makes it hard to get high ES rolls on gear

http://poeaffix.net/ch-es.html
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>>162079591
>implying all those things arent true
it also requires you to cast 2 spells all the time, thats pure cancer in breaches

you basically have to tank at least 1 hit from all mobs around you
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>>162079475
>He hasn't played a Bino's+Consuming Dark Deadeye ED
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incompetent fucks cant even do their uninstaller right
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>>162079475
>and the singletarget has to be the worst in the game
It's balanced around the assumption you use Wither. Add in poison or shock and you can melt t15s bosses in 2 seconds. L2P before you shit on a skill you don't understand.
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>>162079718
i hope you picked up that throat stabber
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>>162079657
>>162079665
Ah. That explains why crafting usually results in bankruptcy.
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>>162079718
>not vaaling dried lake cartos for easy currency farming t1s
shitter
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>open breach on dried lake in a place where there is not too much room for enemies to come so it's easier to clear than usual
>kill enemies asap as they come in sight
>not enough enemies come
>breach closes
The fuck am i supposed to do?Did GGG even playtested this shit before releasing it?
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Tul is easily the most annoying fight in the game.
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>>162079674
very nice up to 9/10 now
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>>162079879
the more open the area the better the breach
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>>162079838
>not solving all your currency needs day1 through rmt
shitter
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>>162079879
ggg cant afford playtesters. buy a few tabs to help out this struggling indie company
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>>162079879
>not too much room for enemies
>not enough enemies come

you guys are on fire today
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>>162080149
its not about the room really, it just spawns different amounts of mobs randomly, in some cases you get a wasteland with randomly scattered lone whites, in others you get 50 mobs on top of you filling your ass with frost blades in the first second. Consistency has always been GGGs weak spot, so far they are only consistent in finding ways to make you buy more stash tabs.
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>>162080565
im pretty sure amount of space plays a role

dummy
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>>162080565
the unknown quantity of mobs greatly increases the risk of activating the breach

what you are asking for isnt consistency, you just want to be spoonfed
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>mfw sold a 230 pdps binos for 2ex 40c
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>>162067913
I wanted to play blight right when I saw it, I decided it wasn't going to go anywhere sometime before normal ledge. I don't know what GGG was thinking with this one
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why do Essence Drain builds take blast radius notes?

Contagion barely deals any damage..
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>>162081056
Because it's 5% AoE which helps with Contagion spread. Personally I don't find extra AoE all that necessary but I tend to play more aggressively than most EDers
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if you play CI with soul strike, i guess you should take essence surge to counter the reduced shield recharge rate right?
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>>162081338
yes
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is blade flurry viable without a bino, at least early on?
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>>162081512
i dont see why not, just focus on the phys/attack speed instead of poison scaling
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How much damage does the poison effect from consuming dark do?

thinking about using it for ED
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How do you use VRF without a staff, can you charge it and then swap it in when you need it?
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is essence drain with poison still a thing?
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Hello again, retarded idiot crafter here. How can I tell if a ES/Stun recovery is hybrid? If it's hybrid it only takes up 1 mod slot or what? I got %ES and Stun Recovery and figured I could put additional ES on it but NOPE
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>>162081056
AoE increases both the initial area of contagion and the spread radius on kill. Obviously you want your ED to spread further.
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>>162082267
>>162082510
-_-*
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>>162082561
Yes it only takes up one slot, sometimes it's hard to determine what roll is what. You'll have to do some math and sometimes it's even impossible to tell

exilemods.com

don't craft without knowing and checking what your rolls are
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>>162082561
>How can I tell if a ES/Stun recovery is hybrid?
you cant reliably

> figured I could put additional ES on it but NOPE
thats because you already have a shitty %ES mod together with hybrid ES
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https://www.playerauctions.com/path-of-exile/item/o!125491201/

(enter from 80 to 9639)

how. as if they had so many fucking chaos orbs in stock.
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>>162055708
fuck man flicker isn't even expensive. I was sustaining charges in cruel with self found gear. I ran a 2h flicker duelist. I ended up spending like 25c for my endgame gear, at the absolute most.
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>>162083771
>free orbs
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>>162084162
Yeah, it's very manageable now. Poacher, blood rage and an ascendancy node put you at 70-75% chance per kill
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>>162084091
:^)
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>>162074484
post /deaths
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>united in dream

Looks like I'm running a minion build next
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le online guide says i should wait til merc lab to get the cast speed ascendancy for inq, but atm the build feels clunky

should i bite the bullet and take it in cruel
>>
>whatch pohx
>blight is actually good
why did you lie /poeg/
>>
>>162070379
why ruin it by crafting on a fucking resist LUL
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How the fuck is Carcass Jack so cheap when BF and flameblast are meta
>>
belly of the beast, lightning coil, or carcass jack for HP cyclone slayer?
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>>162085808
do what you want moron
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>>162086291
kaom's
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>>162079713
I'm running a Blight totem + ED + Contagion and around level50ish I was already hitting 5k DPS with only self found. Felt clunky at first but it's been getting smoother, and I can still insta frag most enemies. Gotta get better gear though
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>>162085808
buy 2 wands with cast speed, problem solved
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>>162086526
>Blight totem
>instead of wither
for what purpose?
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>>162086698
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>>162084369
and the best part is that if you do decide to start dropping a lot of currency for it, you can put yourself at a really fast clear speed (idk how it holds up this league, but I'm a massive fan of flicker. I think it's one of the most fun skills to use.)
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>>162086116
see
>>162053407
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>>162086760
cause I'm retarded and just double checked that it was wither and not blight, first league running any sort of chaos damage pls no hate
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>>162079475
>the singletarget has to be the worst in the game
what the fuck are you talking about? you can get 10k easily on a 5L before counting wither, the damage from hits, decay, and poison scaling.
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>>162086930
I seriously hope you have temp chains on blasphemy.
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>>162085841
they buffed is blight and pohx is a top tier player

also why do i have to do captcha 25 times to post?
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>>162086796
>idk how it holds up this league
Flicker is more viable now than it has ever been. Get a load of this.
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>>162086995
why? it's not really beneficial until you are leaning on poison damage.
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>try ""melee""
>feel really uncomfortable

>try ES character
>feels weird

>go back to playing evasion ranger
>feels good

>EQ marauder
>feels perfect

I just want to try new builds, I'm tired of LA and EQ
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>>162086995
actually putting that into play once I have more links, problem is that I want unset rings with resistances, which means that I have to drop a little bit of cash, but it shouldn't be too bad imo
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>>162087225
hmmm this combined with a guildmate picking up a 5L daresso with good rolls makes me wanna run a flicker
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>>162087189
>pohx is a top tier player
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Does the poison on chaos damage on consuming dark work for minions? Further, does it stack with the minions poison on hit on the new sword? Could I be a total faggot and use some triple dotting Knitted Horrors using the new Envy aura and added chaos, the poison on hit from the sword, and their innate puncture, and double dotting zombies?
I don't know how poison works with minions, the only problem I have that makes me think it won't work is consuming dark says "your" chaos damage. Not like it matters if it doesn't work that way, either way that new sword is ridiculous for Knitted Horrors.
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I'm going for 2h EQ/AW, berserker or slayer?
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>>162087685
mathil of hc
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>>162086769
>ask for advice
>ignore advice

poedumbs
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>>162088171
mathil is handsome unlike pohx
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>do normal lab
>easily get down Izaro's hp without even trying
>go wander around next part
>find Argus
>kicks my ass
how much of a shitcrow i am?What to do if i have constant mana problems?
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>>162087941
Slayer. Zerker's damage may be tempting, but Slayer's super-culling is the equivalent of 25% more damage with no downside and the rest of his skills play really nicely with EQ.
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>>162088330
>What to do if i have constant mana problems?
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>>162088330
>normal
>kick my ass
>how much of a shitcrow am I?
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>>162088337
sooo, berzerker's damage is fun, but slayer's larger aoe + culling = fun sqared?
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>>162088330
you probably tried to facetank argus, instead use decoy totem and then hit and run, also use decoy totem on literally every boss

since you're on normal and having mana problems, get some elreon jewelry with -7 or -8 to mana cost
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i just messaged moot on ICQ he is going to permaban all shitcrow players any moment now
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>>162088576
Pretty much. And don't forget a 100% double duration stun that will help everyone stay in EQ range.

I may be biased against berserker though because he has a lot of "if" skills which I dislike.
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>>162088824
>actually picking the stun node
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>>162088781
god damnit
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>>162088781
>life regenerated
into trash it goes...
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>>162088330
>What to do if i have constant mana problems
Lv1 clarity
Warlord's/poacher's mark
Or simply chug potions

If you're willing to trade, you can get immortal flesh even if you're poor as shit. Or maybe atziri's foible.
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>>162088995
you can remove suffixes from that chest
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>>162088959
>Not scouring the fire res for another open suffix slot first.
You fucked up.

Also
>Not eternalling it first
Welcome to temp leagues, scrub.
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>>162088959
WELCOME TO THE JAM
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>girdle drops right before maint
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>>162089705
>>162089705
>>162089705
>>162089705
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