Kings edition
Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/
The Steam version launched on October 28th.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.
Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)
Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799676100
Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#
Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:
https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI
Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872
You can listen to both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html
Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/
Dusted >>161980668
Jesus christ, i swear i got every single 7 and 6 drop in my deck in my hand now
So, what deck would you recommend to someone who playsKagero in Vanguard?
My wife (daughter)
>>162013625
lol
>>162004662
What does Kagero do? I know they have dragons but are they fast and aggressive? Slow grinders?
How are those walls coming along lads?
>>162013674
how do people like this ugly loli
her voice is annoying in the dub
mordecai is better in every way
>>162013625
>Slow and steady wins the race
>FUCKING DSHIFT
I'm uber mad, I seriously doubt they were referring to the dirt meme here
>>162013625
>Isabelle image when talking about control decks
Cheeky fucking intern
>>162013736
doing god's work purging those turbocancer fucks
>>162004662
Midrange Dragon is similar in that you have a lot of removal stapled to "units" which offensive stats but it's kind of in a bad spot right now, we'll see how it does in a month.
>>162013790
She is an adorable angel
>Dub
Desist
>>162013968
i dont understand japanese
oh
>>162013790
>>162013675
>>162013797
>>162013808
They did say time-control deck.
Dshift is as time controlling as you get.
>Play storm haven
>Use Elana sleeves to trick kids into thinking i'm some sort of pussy control deck
>>162014018
>i dont understand japanese
>>162014043
>mordecai
>not scoring
I bet you think duels have ends too, huh?
This is your cock socket for tonight.
>>162014136
>using haven at all
>not a pussy
lmao
Charon is pure sex.
>>162013790
>using the dub
theres your problem you retarded nigger
>>162014145
Read his lore (I know, I know), it's actually pretty pathetic
>>162014227
is she still one of those yandere characters that want people to die?
>>162014276
No, the localization changed her character completely
>>162014136
I don't think there's a single deck in the game that has a different game plan against Storm or Elana. Maybe DShift has to prioritize their removal differently but they're both at a speed where every other aggro deck spams followers and swings face against them, and every midrange/control deck is trying to outlast them
>>162014145
Mordecai is a literal cuck who never ever scored.
Could someone concede for me please?
53829
when haven wastes their banishes so you bring out your boi
>>162014248
Where?
>>162014440
>Turn 10
>They have no evolves
>You're at 15 and have a taunt out
You already won before that, senpai
please tell me haven is getting significant nerfs
>>162014176
Literally who
>>162014176
My wife nano
>>162014526
Are people seriously bitching about one of the fairest wincons in the game, he's a 5/5 and his only ability is that he can't die.
story continuation when?
please tell me forest is getting signific- hahahahahAHHAHAHA
>Sadistic night art
>Beast dominator wrapping her hair around the glass like in a hairjob while lewdly licking the blood
I am probably late to the party, but...
Oh hey, barnes was SUCH A POPULAR MINION. Lets make our game just as swingy and retarded.
At least this is 8 mana so it will be late enough to not be as bad, but fuck this.
>>162014723
you guys are into some weird shit
>>162014440
Shield angel jesus christ stop memeing me
>>162014696
But he can if you turn him into a snowman or golem
>>162014714
Significant buffs? Why yes, glad you asked.
>>162014417
Thanks shadowfriend
I hope shadowcraft gets some good card this expansion
>>162014526
http://wiki.rageofbahamut.com/Skeletal_Duelist
>>162014738
It uses cards from your deck, nothing unexpected about her, she's just pure value and not much else, like one of the ideal scenarios is you ending up with a field of 2 skeletons, a Lich, Morde, her and drawing 1 card.
>>162014768
shield angel ain't bad boy
>>162014738
>Play 1 (one) mordecai for consistency sake
>Draw him every game
i can already tell
is there anywhere with all the information about the new cards? I wann read about the new carrotverse coming.
I love winning against elana cucks.
>>162014768
Sword doesn't have any 1/4 wards
>>162014738
EXCITING FUN STORIES THAT YOU CAN TELL YOUR FRIENDS
>>162013736
TWO
W
O
PASCALES
>>162014738
Seems like a more controlled Barnes, not sure why shadowcraft is getting the RNG legendaries
>>162014738
>Lets make our game just as swingy and retarded
Please tell me the situation where playing this would stop you losing at the hands your opponent's established wincon (being at 5 health against dragon when you haven't seen any fortes out yet, for example ).
whats the counter to this runecraft golem spam shit
>>162014998
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PEidN6h73bySliVVFHEe1REDSmKqjEIo79Btak0Dpjc/edit
>>162014927
I've fallen in love with Mordecai all over again.
>>162015173
don't worry nobody will use this turd
>>162015178
themselves, the dirtrune players counter themselves by bricking.
>>162015173
easy
you pull mordecai + ghostly rider
I want to stick my tongue in arisa's butt
>>162014136
> play Elana haven
> don't draw a single Elana or healing followers
> draw all of my beastcalls, hallowed dogma, blackened, prism priestess and cudgels instead
> still win
Havencraft is a disgustingly dirty class.
>>162015316
>>162015316
what if they ptp
>>162015178
(Almost) everything
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/48/0/53
Half the time they will just end up with a dead hand/board (only earth amulets/only earth triggers) or run out of steam due to lack of card draw.
>>162015173
Nephthys is either going to be useless or she'll be broken because a build that's too consistent on her will be developed.
People worried about her stealing games on RNG have no fucking clue what they're doing. No one's going to be throwing her into the current lists, she's a build-around card. Her build might be good, or it might be as shitty as Roost Satan.
>Bannermeme is so braindead
>Anyone can win with banner
>5 losses later I can't finish my daily mission
>Cygames releases odin to counter PTP and haven
>The only card fucked by odin is mordecai
explain this shadowbabs
explain this shadowbabs
>>162015075
What is this shit and why do you keep repeating it every time Hearthstone RNG is brought up?
Daily reminder the carrot will bring upon a disgusting meta.
>turn 3 gourmet king
>turn 4 carrot + 2-drop
>turn 5 gourmet king+carrot
>>162015539
It's the hearthstone dev's excuse for having a horribly balanced game with shitload of RNG. It makes for 'exciting stories' which to them is better than 'skill-based gameplay'.
>>162014738
theres nothing swingy about it. you literally know exactly what cards youre getting from the deck you made, and you should design your deck around it accordingly.
>mfw you end up with mordecai, lich, zombie, zombie
>>162015580
so?
>>162015414
if you're playing something that can't put followers on the board to kill them while they're choking on nothing but followers who need runes without runes.
you deserve that loss.
>>162015539
http://www.pcgamesn.com/hearthstone-heroes-of-warcraft/blizzard-hearthstone-rng-actually-increases-the-level-of-skill-required-to-master-the-game?amp
>>162015539
It's one of the tag lines from a blizzard press release on their stance on the rng or something.
>>162015519
Shadow isn't allowed to have nice things.
>>162015519
Odin should be 2 mana and turn mordecai into snowmen for 6 desu nano.
>>162015580
Sounds like a weak-ass turn 4 and 5 if you ask me. My cudgel will be very pleased if you play like this.
>>162015580
>will absolutely destroy dshift
Fine by me
>>162014738
I'm really hoping for shadow to get some stupid strong last words followers so this can be viable along with Mordecai.
>>162015238
What does the Clash keyword do? Does it just mean any time that card participates in an exchange of damage with another?
>>162015580
im ready for the carrot meta
Is /svg/ a pro-elf general?
>>162015623
I mean, you can make a deck that does this but it will lose on turn 9 to literally any deck
>>162015771
You got it
>>162015580
Oh no, 2 2/2 on turn 4!
2 2/2s on turn 5!
The terror.
Meanwhile priest and dragon are shitting on you, fencer and sword in general outproduces you, tia is literally fucking you in the butt with crystals and every storm setup is shitting on your face.
all this game needs is more banish cards and ways to deal with amulets and haven/forest would drop a tier
Is there anything more satisfying?
>>162015725
Carrots help D-Shift more than anything. You're just giving them more targets to spellboost.
>>162014738
This is our current pool of last word shadow dudes, have fun.
>>162015782
as am i
>>162015848
>tfw Tia will never peg you with her ice dildo
>>162015119
That's nothing brah
i need a concede please.
79332
>>162015784
yes
>>162015720
>5 2/2s on turn 5 is weak
But that's a norm for aggro Shadow
Also
>spending cudgel on literal tokens
As expected from hag fag.
>>162015914
D-Don't forget about bellringer angel!
>>162015879
>forcing them to waste removal on stuff that just appears indefinitely on hand
Nope
You're gonna need a 3rd Elana to keep up with me m8
>>162016056
in what world is aggro shadow not dropping Cerb on 5
>win
>loss
>win
>loss
>win
>loss
>win
>loss
>win
>loss
>win
>loss
>>162015443
>she'll be broken because a build that's too consistent on her will be developed.
Not with any of the last word follwers we have at the moment.
Even if she turns out to be super consistent with some new last word follower, we are currently in the meta where games end with a hard victory conditions on turn 8-9. Soft wincons through board state are mediocre.
But at least shadow got something.
>>162016056
>banish cards that refresh themselves when killed
>hurr durr why r u banishing
Concede please
77081
I swear like 50% of Havencucks are disconnecting nowadays. Whats up with that, can't they take a lost?
>>162016013
thx luna and freedom eagle who came too late
>>162015784
elves are the best waifus
>>162015848
>t. d rank
people dont know that the hidden power of forest is that they can fill out the curve every turn with fairies and the carrot allows you to do exactly that
>>162016129
If it's in your hand then it's not gonna do shit and you still use 2 PP to play it again. It's not like it has Storm. And it's not really forcing them because they want to use all those wind blasts.
>>162015914
Ding Dong update.
>>162015914
>3x Bellringer
>3x Skullcradle
>3x Spartoi Soldier
>3x Bone Chimera/Rabbit Necromancer/Necroelementalist
>3x Hell's Unleasher
>3x Mordecai
>3x Nephthys
I might run Sergeant and Cerberus since they're fucking great even if they hurt consistency though.
>>162016141
When you want to drop her on turn 6 to burn something for 2?
When you are smashing face, you want to generate as massive followers to keep them busy with. Pretty much Aggro Shadow strat in general.
>>162015914
Hey, that might mean Malicious ghost will get some play
>>162013736
Please give me a decklist. I got 2 pascales just wasting away.
>>162016405
on turn 6 I want to Howl + Coco and Mimi for 11 damage. A strategy that can be lethal as long as you're not playing stupid fucking carrots from turns 3-5
What the fuck is she saying?
I'm playing with my '''''''control'''''' blood and for the first time i batlle against one '''''''control''''' sword and is pretty OP this shit if you defend stop saying how balanced the class is
>Building D shift because of the nonstop Elana/Seraph
Remember, you made me do this. I didn't want to.
Dark Elf leader when?
>>162016357
I mean theoretically Cerberus might not be that bad of an idea, cause her getting summoned will give you Mimi/Coco
Unless that doesn't activate fanfare...
>>162016512
control blood devours sword to the point its not even funny.
Do I buy Vania or Forteor both
I wont play either class without those leaders
>>162016560
It won't activate Fanfare.
>>162016560
No Fanfare if played from deck. Fanfare is strictly from hand.
>>162016560
Fanfare only activates when you play from hand.
>>162016493
Gimme, it's you I want!
>>162016597
Yes say that to Otohime and Saber
>>162016312
>exhaust wind blasts on carrots
>enemy drops big guys
>>162016330
Will see play in my PtP deck atleast.
It either draws card via bellringer/cradke or generates shadows with chimera/soldier/skull beast
>>162016631
buy Vampy but dragon isn't fun so don't bother buying Forte
>>162016636
>>162016656
>>162016658
Well so much for that
>>162016704
>Sinners be purged
Maybe you're just bad
Need a concede please.
77611
>>162016838
Yes boogaloo man
>not playing urias with vania sleeves while playing his daughterus
>>162016706
>low cost fiery embrace because they've been spellboosting with wind blasts
>DS lethal the next turn
>>162016897
Okay
>>162016631
>>162016815
Don't listen to him, all blood can play is bat, dragon is going to be good in the expansion
>>162016493
What the fuck is HE saying ?
>Lost in ???
So clash is just an on-attack ability that only triggers if you attack a follower while other on-attack abilities don't necessarily have to be when you attack a follower.
>>162017038
Lost and wayward ones!
>>162017038
Lost and wayward ones
>keep failing to find a game
why are the servers so shit?
>>162017038
I think it's "Lost and wayward ones."
>>162017038
That's the gayest angel halo I've ever seen.
>>162016846
Anyone?
>>162017090
everyone stopped playing this kusoge after they saw the new elf cards
>>162017053
No, that's not it at all.
Clash activates if you attack (follower or leader), and get attacked.
>>162016308
>the carrot allows you to do exactly that
>filling the curve with under the curve followers
>good idea
Enjoy having infinite card advantage while losing board control every turn.
>just dced for the third game in a row
>le 6 mana do nothing faec
>>162017140
that makes sense
but shouldn't the server load be lower then?
>>162017145
>2/2 for 2
>under the curve
>>162017182
She does things to my dick does that count?
>>162016846
Can you concede for me too?
>>162016846
Thank you anon,charmed
>>162017243
you're failing to find a game because no one else is looking for one
has there been any word on sets rotating out or is that far away?
I just started a few days ago, should I use my gold on opening standard packs, the current expansion or the one that is coming out later this month?
>>162017143
But I thought it said it only happened if it's a follower v follower.
>>162017143
That's not right either. Only when the follower attacks another follower or the follower gets attacked by another follower.
>>162017264
Yes because it happens to me too.
>>162017182
I mean its above average statline with 2 chumpblockers. Its not otohime levels of value, but its a good card.
>>162017265
Sorry about that, didn't read your post before I left.
Bloodbros what to do in this situation?
>>162017304
>>162017307
My bad then, might want to add that to the Google doc.
>>162017394
Welp made a new one, 95150
How do I into Prince of Darkness? What sort of decks accommodate him best?
>>162017406
Nothing
Hang on to Vania, drop on turn 4 with evolve and summon bloodkin for max GOOOO BLOODKIN
>>162017493
Thank you anon
>>162017298
If you don't have a net deck to play with and do ranked, then just spend the gold to make a good deck. You have like 20 something days, which you could save up about like 2k or more gold in that time for 20 expac packs.
>7 PP Discard both players hands, reset all shadows to 0 and banish an enemy amulet
now control cucks are happy?
>>162017406
he's gonna ancient elf next turn and won't have an evolve so just drop vampy
>>162017406
Ram Unica into the Whisperer, after that you either drop Vampy and make them pick between ramming a wounded Unica or ramming Vampy or you play Bats to keep a board. Or just ram Unica into their face and pass turn.
>>162017182
It's actually a solid card when you consider the synergy it has with vania/night horde/summon bloodkin If your enemy doesn't have aoe clear or removal you can keep stuff like Mary or Vania alive for longer than they would have otherwise.
>>162017254
To get 2/2 for 2 you drop 2/2 for 3, and if you are doing it on 5th turn like mentioned here: >>162015580 you are droping it under a curve again when a lot of actual strong cards get online.
4th turn it's a poor drop also because it's the point where lots of swingy cards come out.
Priest will trade 3to1 with your carrots as a bare minimum.
And a lot of actually used 2 drops at this point has something extra going for it. Banner or dragon don't drop 2/2s, they drop 3/2s or higher. Or shit with storm which Unica at least serves as a passive ward against.
2/2 for 2 is not a strong play at all.
Is there any point towards climbing to Master? You lose out on the point bonuses and the games are much harder
>>162017617
Ramp Satan Dragon and Guardian Sun control Haven. Personally I prefer the latter but I'm not really sure which one is better.
Okay, for those who doubt the carrots. Let me give you a proper explanation.
Here's how aggro shadow works these days going first
>T1 Skull Beast
>T2 2-drop
>T3 Rabbit Necromancer
>T4 2 2-drop
In this scenario, 5 cards are spent and baldy will always remove rabbit necromancer and trade into another 2-drop. This is a 2-for-1.
When carrot is online,
>T1 Skull Beast
>T2 2-drop
>T3 Gourmet King
>T4 Carrot + 2-drop
With this scenario, only 4 cards are spent and baldy is forced to remove the carrot and another 2-drop. This is a 1-for-1, since you will now have a last word that will be able to proc without it getting cudgeled.
>but DS shift-
I hope you draw into all your removals. All it takes is an untouched follower to re-arrange your face.
Also, the turn 5 King+Carrot is just as situational as dropping themis on any empty board on turn 6.
>>162017753
what the fuck
>>162017617
Dragon with the gold card that reduces the cost of a card in your hand along with ramp so you can play it early. It's still not very good.
Maybe the new Forest leggo could be used with it but I doubt it.
>>162017783
top 100 gets 5000 gold and 3 animated legendaries
top 1000 gets 1 animated legendary and 1000 gold
>>162017634
>>162017763
>>162017770
I did the third option and she drop liza and them this was really easy to win
>>162017940
Omedetou.
>>162017806
Dshift doesn't care about a 2/2 swinging at it's face, it cares about storm and strong value combos like Little soul devil/vania or banner
>people doubting the power of the carrot
>expansion cames, carrot is now a staple in every deck
Does anyone happen to have or know how to find the fullsize art of this card (Master Sage)?
I like it a lot.
>>162017775
Yeah it's actually a pretty good card. It's a good answer to stuff like Otohime or Floral because Sword has no board clear and it'll buy at least one turn because they have to get through 2 bats and take care of a 4/4 or 6/6 on the board. Once Control Blood gets to turn 8+ it basically wins any game over Sword.
>>162018046
And you seem to forget that Shadow has this guy to rely on for Storm. He will just wait for you to kill all those carrots and go in for the confirmed kill.
>>162018091
you can find a batch with all the card's art in the OP
>>162018195
That guy is a joke.
Just made banner without banner and it somehow worked out better.
>>162018195
>implying i'm not going to just glow them back into your hand after I turn them into a golem
Aggro shadow already shits all over dshift with phantom howl + cerb anyway
>>162018195
>Lesser Mummy
>not fucking Phantom Howl
Baka
>>162018063
carrot's garbage
especially on turn 4 and 5 and 6 if you're planning to use your evolve at all, which you will have to to not fall desperately behind
>>162017806
Carrot doesn't even give you as many shadows as Sergeant in one turn. It's shit. On turn 4 you can also just play another Rabbit Necromancer or Hell's Unleasher too, both of which are way better than a carrot with 2 or 1 drop.
>>162018251
That's one of the new cards though, I already downloaded the OP pack. Or was it updated with cards that aren't even out yet?
>>162018063
I'll add carrot to my decks because i don't like empty hand in late game but thinking that it's a good drop in mid game is retarded.
what does it mean if i get the opponent dc message buit it only lasts for like a second?
New PtP rework: This card deals 10 damage but the damage is divided by the enemy followers and leader.
IF the enemy have 2 followers it would be 3 damage for each and this how it goes
>>162018693
nah
>>162018307
>a novice trooper for 2PP is weak
>>162018324
And it will be even worse when the carrot is online
>>162018328
That is only when you are sure to close with the lethal.
>>162018374
You don't really have to use the carrot on every turn if you have better things to play, you know.
>>162018424
>a card that nets two bodies, which equals to 2 Shadow
>Sergeant nets you 2 Shadow
Come again. And seriously, play according to your matchup. If you have cards that are favored in that situation, then use them. Else, you just flood the board.
Does DC'ing not count as a loss?
Seems like 3 out of every 4 wins are people DC'ing before I can kill them.
>destroys all allied followers and brings them back with same attack/defense
How broken would that be?
>>162013697
They're mostly focused on 1. bosses (the dragons) with high stats and multiple attacks and 2. removing the opponent's monsters. They can be kind of grindy in some builds , others are more hand trap builds.
>>162018775
you'll have better things to play every turn if you don't stuff your deck with carrots
>>162018775
>a novice trooper for 2PP (and 4 shadows) is weak
Fixed that for you
>>162018693
I don't mind ptp, just run Execution.
The "problem" with ptp is largely a problem with elf, not ptp.
>>162018091
Give me her name in nip runes.
>>162018775
>>a novice trooper for 2PP is weak
I love it when people pretend shadows are free.
>>161998128
Hearthstone shittter here. Who has the best default deck?
>>162018798
Salty japs.
>>162018946
Probably dragon or sword.
>>162018883
Usually enough to close the game with.
>>162018878
>3 cards is a lot
Nice meme there.
>>162018932
With everything dying left and right, 4 Shadow is easy to come by. Remember, they are game-closer, not game-opener.
Well met
>play dirt ptp with reasonable success
>hear that snowman spam ptp is better
>make 2 merlins and try it out
>lose fucking everything
Have I fallen for a meme yet again?
>>162018091
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/d/%8e%cf%8e%bd%8e%c0%8e%b0%8e%da%8e%c3%8e%de%8e%a8%8e%be%8e%b0%8e%bc%8e%de%20%28%8e%ca%8e%b2%8e%da%8e%b1%29
Do not respond to nerrfie posters
>>162018798
(you)
>>162019195
One can heal face and build walls while another rely on a good hand to combo into. You do the math.
I can't stop to play rooster dragon
>>162019047
>4 Shadow is easy to come by
laughinghaven.jpg
>craft to merlins to play some shitty ptp meme deck instead of dshift
>>162019047
whatever you're taking out for carrots is just going to slow the deck down and make it worse
I don't even want to Soul Conversion it because the first one costs 3pp and Skull Beast or Widow are better targets
>>162019195
Don't feel too bad, with Merlins you can make the superior rune deck
>>162019336
>hagfag themis my board
>I already have lethal with howl+mummy anyway
Yeah, you can have infinity number of banish, so spend it on those carrots please.
My mistresswife
>>162019203
Oh dang thanks! She's a cutie
Was there ever a sale on the crystals? What percentage were they discounted by?
I can't do this anymore, it's all heaven, heaven, heaven decks round and round, no matter how much damage I deal they heal everything and drop boost their minions without any counterplay. No matter how much I control board they either drop Garuda and get 2x 4/4 + 2/1 storm and 3 damage to face or just clean my board and do same on next turn, when will it end?
>>162019442
>playing a 3PP 2/2 will slow down the game by a lot
Not really.
And Widow is no longer an aggro card with that subpar stat.
>>162019516
My cocksleevetoiletfeetpussy
>>162013808
>dshift
>not control
I want this shit meme to die.
>>162019609
Get ready for Forest being 90% decks next expansion
>>162019609
>2016
>complaining about haven
Just go to A
>>162019602
50%
>>162019683
Don't do this, it only gets worse
>>162019669
It's a hybrid desu.
>>162019445
i would like to give her the d-shift if you know what i mean.
>>162019750
I can agree with that.
>>162019445
>tfw you already have lethal but your opponent won't surrender so you just play solitaire with your deck for 4 minutes spell boosting extra dshifts, removing random cards, bouncing smelters up and down then slowly making each flame destroyer attack and emoting in between
See you in hell elana fags
>>162019203
>>162019771
She shifts my d every night
I'd have my d do double shifts with her
I'd shift my d into her
>>162014927
9/10 lore
Morecai a best
>>162019842
>tfw you alttab whenever dshitter plays his game and couldn't give less fuck about what they do
>>162019609
I'm in AA which is forest and runehag land so far with the occasional ramp dragon for some reason.
>>162018798
i dc everytime i lose to some bullshitwhich coincidentally is most times :^)
>>162019676
The only reason there aren't more forest players right now is because it's a very expansive deck
>>162019940
You have to remember most of these dirty elana elevens are playing on mobile. When I see a US or Euro flag I try to get things done as fast as possible unless I see Elana or elves.
>>162014927
Odd. Pretty sure there was a whimsical devil who passed through and decided to reanimate him just for the heck of it.
>>162019854
Is she a ghost?
>>162019985
They'll just replace Tia with that new bullshit ward
>>162020103
Nah, she's just very fragile looking.
>>162020162
I'm gonna make her my wife and protect her forever!
>just blew 700 rupies on DE packs
Got Pascale and Seraph, so I guess I did the right thing.
>>162020213
I'm going to break her pussy
>sword won't be using the carrot because trait synergy
>forest can't afford slots for the carrot
>shadow can make space for it
>blood will turn to minigoblin mage instead to fetch Vania or Wolf
>haven will get the carrot to deal with early aggro
>dragon and rune... nah
Something like that.
what do I do? I'm thinking left since I'd rather have a lower curve but wind god sounds really good with all the untargetable followers I have.
Why is Vampy so sexual?
So is there idolshit in the game yet or not? I'm seeing it on some of these screenshots.
>>162020290
No don't she's too precious
I'll stop you
Is this normal ?
>>162020338
Right. Drifter sucks for a 3PP.
>>162020313
Aggro Dragon might run it as an extra 2 drop
Dshift might run it to fight off aggro? Dunno
>>162020428
Yea, all animated packs come around from time to time
the thing that throws me off about shadowverse is that i tried to make a game with libgdx once, and i know that they used that to make this. they're still using the default buttons for the title screen in the top left
Couldn't fall asleep so I plan to play elana\seraph for 12 hours straight
eksdee
>Looking for RoB art
>mfw dark moon hekate
>>162020604
So just got into the game. I should just be buying standard packs and not bothering saving for the new expansion, right?
>>162020604
what?
is this ever going to be optimized for pc? the mobile interface is shitty
>>162020597
>turn 8 does nothing to the enemy board
They will need a last word that will affect the enemies' board, or this will be crap.
>>162020438
I feel like this is right but I don't really have a wincon right now so maybe left?
>>162020428
There's a small chance of getting an all animated pack (which still has a higher chance of getting all animated cards randomly through their normal odds)
>>162020674
Standard is the base of the collection but this depends of what you want and need
>Playing mirrors against opponents who don't know the mirror
>>162020290
I'm going to break her womb.
>>162020793
>left is a wincon
Are you fucking serious on not taking roar and lucifer?
>>162020759
So far, we just have Necroelementalist
>>162020759
One damage AoE is a bit light by turn 8, but...
>>162020793
Right, Roar is a better wincon than satan and Luci is a great 8 drop, left is bleh.
>>162020759
Well seeing as you'll build your deck around this, cards like necroelementist are gonna probably go in.
Plus while it does nothing, the ability to do something like get a 5/5, mordecai, some 2/2's, give one of them ward, and/or do 1AoE to all the enemies or deal 2 to their face, is pretty significant.
It can easily be a giga death's breath.
>>162020793
Polyphonic roar is a wincon
>defeating rich elf shitters with my poorfag banner deck
Feels great
83591
Need a concede, thanks!
>>162020717
libgdx is a game development framework for android. they're using the default buttons in some places. they didn't change them with their own custom ones
>>162020793
You don't have enough low cost cards to turn flute in a wincon and prince is criminally random piece of shit.
Forestcraft [Mames] Follower 6pp Gold
【Before Evolve】5/5
Ward
Fanfare: If you have played 2 or more cards this turn, deal 2 damage to all enemies.
【After Evolve】7/7
Ward
Fucking why. This is beyond strong for a class that lives off 100000 OP as fuck cards already.
>>162020759
It's fine even if the card has no impact on the enemy board, it's obviously themed as a control win con so it'll be coming out on neutral board states.
>>162020954
>>162021032
Yeah Idk what I was thinking, went right. Give me your energy /svg/!
WHY IS A FILTHY DEMON THE NEXT HAVEN LEADER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>162021118
Understand that but at least is playable in both versions contrary of the rigged shit of HS in mobile.
>>162021176
Hope you go at least 4-1.
>>162021205
fucking Kirin armor
>>162021205
qt
>>162021176
Have my good vibes
>>162021205
Source?
rarely spotted urd on ghost action
>>162021461
does it work
>>162021461
Is that an evolved skeletal chimera on the left?
It looks ridiculous
>>162021540
spartoi soldier
>>162021530
yep lethal
What do you guys think of Moon in Sunlight Satan? Her stats and ability seem to mix really well with Ward.
>>162021331
>>162021386
It wasn't meant to be
I need one Olivia for my Roost Dragon pleasse give me good vibes.
I will buy three packs and this will the last one before the expansion
>>162021632
nice
list?
>>162021205
Because horny bunnies are the best.
>>162021540
That's a Spartoi Soldier reporting to duty.
Yeah, looks like something from YGO
>>162021232
defensive much? i'm just saying it throws me out of the experience
>>162021695
it's a shitty control shadow list that's missing 2 cerberus, you don't want it
>>162021634
It's a meaty ward with storm that also heals itself every turn. Of course it's good.
>>162021205
Have they actually confirmed this?
>>162021639
Should have dropped that behemoth earlier.
>>162021742
Actually shit now that you mention it
>>162021742
He's a dragon tooth soldier so yeah.
>>162021785
It was either drop him or forte
>make a somewhat functional control blood deck
>decide to test it on unranked
>face 2 dshift and 3 elanas
>automatically lose any sort of interest on control decks
The next expansion will make control decks viable right?
lmao
>>162021770
You don't know how i tried to play HS in my old Xperia
Little fucking faggot aggressively evolving my ass and dumping fairies without a care in the world
This is why you're dumpster. This is why you're AA3
I'm gatekeeping you fucking kids until you actually learn how to play the damn game
>>162021890
Spartoi Lord when?
>>162021205
>>162021890
>oh my, look at the time
>okay, everything is set. muh blade is ready
>listen up! I want them all dead by dusk!
>put your faith in the dark!
Sounds like a cool dude.
>>162022003
>putting more than two fairies against sword
He's either retarded or play tempo, which means he was fucked from the beginning.
>>162021957
Don't be down my blood bro control blood is actually really good against most of sword decks,aggro bat and other shit.
>>162022103
Yes, it's tempo
Notice my 6 health. Retard just thinks he's good at the game for double elf girl may-ing into ancient elf turn 3 and evolves a fucking elf to hit my face on turn 4 aggressively
Fucking AA3 sewage players I swear
>>162022003
>le balanced seiba of wards
>swordfags will defend this
>>162021890
>>162022026
>>162022076
spartoi deck would actually sound pretty neat.
Is there anything in his lore that would hint at Spartoi lord would be like as a follower?
>>162021957
You do realize that control blood is completely even against elana haven?
You can go slower than it while keeping a mary combo ready for a kill. You have cheaper removal, and ridiculous burst. It's actually a pretty fun matchup.
Now dshift's gonna fuck you unless you change the deck around, and it's actually perfectly fine to change a few cards to be a bit more of an aggro start that transitions to control and makes that matchup so much easier.
Open deck editor, pick your favorite class, let the game automatically build a deck for you, play one unranked game with it, report results.
>>162022198
I hope he just summons skeletons every turn
Or maybe summons a skeleton every time something dies
I need to make my skeleton deck
>>162021772
Is that all it's missing? I'm trying to finish mine and I just want to see any list that has Urd.
>>162022110
I can see that. But the problem is always the PtP, dshift and elana seraph people.
>>162022256
I guess two copies of mary isn't enough.
They better save beast dominator because I have three copies of this slut.
>>162022198
>>162022272
I'm rather mad that Rune gets to have a follower that can crank out zombies in a hurry instead.
Every part of it sans the earthrite screams Shadow.
>>162022168
You know why I'm actually mad? His hand was literally perfect
If he just actually traded off his board instead of getting high on the moment and just going face to show how fucking MACHO he was evolving fairies and shit I would've lost 100%
But no. Dump fairies without a care in the world, make seibah untargetable by spells. Good fucking job this is why you aren't masters
How the fuck could anyone lose with a start like that. Literally threw his points away dumb fucking nip and just ragequits at the end
>>162022167
What should he have done to beat you?
>>162022076
Cygames' skeletons are really based
How come Cygames prints 2 Gold cards with Last Words for Swordcraft but only 1 for Shadowcraft?
so what's the cheapest meta deck
>>162022541
Clear my board, don't overextend into saber
Burst me with roaches since I'm so fucking low. Play it slow
I can't afford to dump otomeme on curve anymore or I'm dead to wind god/cynthia
He just needs to slowplay me and I'm pretty much a goner
>>162014335
Seems like a waste of a good pyschololi
Are there any shadow decks that actually do well against haven?
>>162022276
it's also missing 2 deaths breath, try one of these game.ai decks
http://game-ai.jp/18629/
http://game-ai.jp/13668/
http://game-ai.jp/16432/
>>162022554
Shit, this is pretty rad.
>>162022271
It was okay.
>>162022554
What is that skelly thinking in the third panel?
>>162022554
>>162022761
Thanks anon, good luck finishing yours!
Need a concede
62859
>>162022271
I managed to beat a dragonbro with this.
do
it
for
her
>>162022884
>>162022415
I only run 2 mary's, it's generally fine because of the ridiculous burst you can do on them, 3 makes it more consistent, but unless they have seraph, the match ain't gonna be a fast one and you shouldn't exactly have draw problems.
Basically you can actually outlast them because of the beauty that is revelation. Queen Vampire is the most beautiful minion at buying you a turn or baiting those themsis and/or forcing them to overcommit. Then you punish that and go for a one-two punch they can't recover from.
Basically go slower than them, exhaust their heavy removal and/or board and then burst them down the second it's safe.
>>162022884
What a cute skel
>>162023017
Best skellington
>>162022934
a-anyone?
>>162022884
>>162023017
>skeleton
>eating or drinking
Unless they have some sort of sac down there, it might get messy.
>>162023017
Fucking Fighter.
>>162022271
>>162022976
I've had dshift surrender yesterday to autodeck.
Their server is shitting itself
How many hours do you play SV each day, /svg/?
Recently I've been so busy with work that I missed 3 or 4 days' worth of dailies.
>>162023168
>>162022934
Thanks m8
>>162022716
I'm at 6 health. He dumps 2 fairies on board, passes
At that point he has way too many outs in his deck to win right off the bat since he has 1 extra evolution point. Notice his relatively healthy handsize
2 fairies on board, 1 evo point and
1. Cynthia
2. Windgod
3. Combination of roaches, spells
9 out of 30ish cards remaining, close to 1/3 every draw to win the game. He could have a 1 -off fairy dance. He could have a 2-3 of glimmering wings into roaches
His odds of winning at that point was ridiculous to put things into perspective. Tempo lists also run 2x dance of death these days
But nooo, silly japanese man dumps fairies. Throws his ill-gotten win with a completely perfect hand into the trash
From his hand I can assume it was a pile of roaches and at least 1 dance of death. I counted 3 fairies. No windgod/cynthia or he would've dumped it on curve
So his hand was roach(?), dance(?), bounce(?), sylvan(?) and 3 fairies
Is it even possible to beat dshift with elana
>>162023334
play on the toilet at work
>>162023017
gaaaaaaay
>>162023017
Do you reckon the anime fuckboy getsboned
ARE you guys watching that?
Don't you guys get bored of doing dailies? I swear I would hate the game if I did them everyday: I just decided for 2 crafts I liked and liquified everything else.
>tfw you make a huge misplay and it costs you the game
>>162023561
I thought the gooks were against fag propaganda
>>162023612
I'm going to sign up and playPtP Flute
>>162023702
>against fag propaganda
It's a huge market.
Which does the future look brighter for? Forest or sword?
>>162023702
But there's a shit ton of yuri stuff in Japanese stuff
>>162023407
Get lucky
>>162023702
>Ground Zero for the spread of trap fetishism
>>162023672
I like opening packs
>>162022727
Aggro Shadow is 50/50 vs Storm Haven
>>162023753
GOOD NIGHT SWORD MAID PRIDE
>>162023407
If you mean pure elana:
Heavily mulligan for elana, try to get as many as you can on board and then play heal followers that will have 4 or more defense. This matchup is hopeless in general however.
If you mean seraph elana:
Follow the strategy above. If you can't, play literally nothing, hoard your cooldown reduction cards and hope you get seraph. Also pretty hopeless.
>dragoncraft lego is discard
reeeeeeee
>>162023753
Forest
They've been revealing way too many otomeme counters
>>162023612
I played in the last one and the organization was terrible. The Battlefy service was a mess, but other than that, the guy CyGames is having organize this just doesn't know anything about organization, which I don't blame him for since they clearly just picked him for exposure. He's passing on all the responsibility and work to his volunteer moderators, who were decent enough but severely understaffed. There were issues through the entire event.
I'll probably join the next one too though.
>>162023908
YES
>>162023672
I have a functional deck for everything but Forest and maybe Dragon but the only mission that doesn't count victories for two factions is also only 20 gold so I almost always replace it.
I also like playing the game if that counts for anything.
>>162023837
Based Japan
>>162023734
I double dare you
>>162023675
>make a play that gives you lethal next turn if your opponent doesn't predict your cards, but will cost you the game if they do. (have to, because going to lategame=losing)
>will them to make the mistake
>they do
>>162024214
banner or bats
>>162024001
I'm signing up right now.
>>162024284
shadow
>>162024312
speaking of that, are you recording your winrate? if so, how's it doing right now
>>162023612
>9pm my time
I'm going to fuck up bad
Someone give me a shadow deck to climb AA with because I can't seem to find a good one.
I'm getting shit on by every craft.
Easy turn 7 lethal without Destroyers going first. I've never had that much draw luck in the DShift mirror before.
>>162024391
I would guess my winrate is around %35-45 (A1) but I haven't been playing it the last few days, a mix of illness and needing to ladder.
>>162023914
But any truth to the talked about cynthia and roach nerfs?
is there any reason to play the gobu mage when carrot exists?
>>162024643
Carrot is shit.
Is there any reason to not dust Mordecai if Carrot will be release?
>>162024693
you are shit
>>162024585
Still higher than discard dragon!
>>162024734
He's a floater, don't be so jumpy to dust stuff.
>>162024786
It is Discard Dragon, though, just with Flute and PtP also.
>>162024693
I'm going to try carrot in my deck.
>>162024643
Minigobu is cute! CUTE!
>look up netdecks
>20,000+ liquid needed
guess i'm making slight alterations to standard decks for awhile
>>162024643
Blood will play the goblin to fish out a vania or wolf.
Shadow will play the carrot.
>>162024949
Banner could use goblin to fetch more storm as well.
I can consistently win with Shadow and Blood in Unranked but almost never win with Banner Sword.
How much of a faggot am I?
Is Carrot an actual card you put in your deck or do you need to fetch him off the 3pp gourmet?
The moment you force a themis and they're out of evolve points evolve the pirate aggressively because they have no way to deal with it at all aside from another themis so it's an easy 10 damage
Save evolution points, don't even trade for them. Your health is a resource if they want to hit face it's fine, just don't let them get good trades
>>162024606
Probably not. Don't liquify anything just in case there's changes or tweaks
is lucifer supposed to be good?
Please tell me I'm not the only one whose made a nun based haven deck for the memes
>evolving Queen Vampire makes her legwear LESS sexy
???
>>162025187
>tfw i can see the pantsu in the animated version
>>162025031
>2/1 storm while ditching trait synergy
Nah.
>>162025051
It just means you don't go face
that's it.
Your biggest regret?
>liquefying animated Lucifer
>>162025312
Ever playing this kusoge
Remove HAven
>LETS DO THIS RIGHT
>EN GARDE
>DUELS HAVE NO END
>LETS DO THIS RIGHT
post pantu-on-head erika
>>162025312
Spent more than 6months in Hearthstone
>>162025232
p-post it
>>162022884
He looks so happy ;^)
>>162025461
So what you're saying is that the one that originally cucked Mordecai was a carrot?
>>162025528
no
>>162025461
>dub
>>162025312
Liquefying Pluto, also Pascale and like 4 JunosI preordered The Grand Tournament
>>162025461
Is this YGO?
>>162025461
>gay english mordecai sticking carrots up his butt
This is your shadowcraft tonight.
This game isn't fun anymore i'm just auto conceding against turn 3 ancient elves and turn 4 floral fencers
>>162023612
how do i register my deck on imgur
>>162025461
Oh boy, a 2/2 mordecai that I have to resummon every turn he dies
What a good replacement
>>162025312
>dusting usable animated
Why the fuck are you doing this?
>>162025746
lol
I swear I've run into more earthmeme than DShifts lately
Why did so many people start playing this trash memedeck?
>>162025837
BUILD WALL
MAKE RUNECRAFT GREAT AGAIN
Isn't this pretty much screaming im a shitter?
>>162025895
it screams MOMS GONNA FREAK
>>162025837
It has a way better time against a majority of decks than dshift
Beats haven, beats aggro. Petrifies seraphs, beastcalls and other ptps
Of course its worst matchup is dshift
>>162025895
I'm not at Unbridled Madness yet but I probably will have it before AA0. I do all my dailies in ranked even with shitty incomplete decks.
>>162025746
>can't with floral and her goons
Learn the shadow way.
>>162025969
u wot this guys playing ptp haven
>>162025907
disgustings-source?
>>162025907pls be futa
>>162025746
And you are playing woth?
>everyone complains about PTP and dshift being non-interactive
>no one gives a shit that dragon's cards are literally the least interactive cards in the game
>>162026024
>ptp haven
post dick
>>162026082
The speech bubble isn't pointing to her so it's probably someone else.
>>162026092
Dragon's in a bad place right now so no one gives a shit
If it was tier 1 everyone would be whining "hurrdurr i can't attack this SOB"
>>162026092
too bad every deck runs cheap 2 damage spells or though untargetables would be scary
>if they give more free evos for blood or dragon this classes will bê really OP
>opponent plays athurian light
>game crashes
epic
>>162026103
i dont know but trhis guys running altered fate and hare of illusions
surprisingly annoying since I was control sword so it put me on a timer instead of being able to take it easy. The guy managed to use 2 altered fates on turn 6 which gave it away.
witness me
>>162026092
>bitch about trinity with "can't be attacked"
>nobody bitches at Aiela who has "can't be attacked" AND "can't be targeted by spells and effects"
What a bunch of idiots
>>162026331
>Hare
>PTP
>Garuda
What the fuck rank is this
Concede to me and I will give you one picture of a crab.
95801
Be there or be square.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11816813
>>162026420
i think you use countdown reducers to spam rabbits
>>162026092
>>162026249
Not really.
They are understated.
You could just out-race them, or have wards.
It's very similar to "can't be targeted by spells and effects" but that one costs less stats.
why no well played emote? you have to bm if you do anything and they concede
>>162025907
Name of this titty monster?
I'm already stroking my friend for the fa incoming
requesting full pic
>>162026556
Unbridled madness is correct
>elf
>tia emblem
>elven naif flair
>vampy sleeves
>>162026420
Makes sense, hares generate shadows and Garuda generates hares.
>>162026535
no i fucked up emote is more annoying
Thanks Down-Under Dragoon Forte
>>162026721
my go to is (gasp) but it can be misconstrued
>>162026782
that was fast
wheres my crab?
>when your connection goes unstable
>>162026030
>>162026082
>>162026576
NO SPOONFEEDINGhttps://exhentai.org/g/929602/a4f3c8150e/
>>162026720
That's way too deep for me
>>162026806
>playing forest
>>162026836
You earned this.
>>162025769
because everyone got a free Lucifer later on
>>162026956
fuck you
>>162026956
this kills the crab
>>162026956
This shit gives me nightmares.
>>162026906
>>162026876
Thanks anony
custom sleeves when?
>>162026958
???
>>162026956
You know if it was reversed it'd actually be scarier
>>162026876
>You're practically like a cow
I can't deal
THIS IS OUR WAY OUT
>>162026958
???
>>162027052
How about better im@s characters when?
>>162022271
pretty much killed myself all match
>>162026956
got rose queen. can i make a meme deck thats based around her or is she better used as an alternative win con?
>>162027212
t. ioricuck
>>162027267
Wait til xpac, looks like she might become a solid win con for control forest at this rate.
>>162026876
So is this /ss/ because that's illegal in Leafland
>>162027212
This.
Just about anyone would be better than NG Trio.
>>162027317
Iori can fuck off
>>162023612
>>162025752
pls help
>tfw she will never try to seduce you with her cute flat chest
>>162027396
n-no i just didn't want people to think i was soft enough to spoonfeed;_;
hlp plz
72255
AND SO OUR PRAYER BECOMES VICTORY
>>162027267
those tits
>>162027439
BRING OUT MIKI
BRING OUT MIKI
>>162026358
so what happens when they get it and play it
>>162027539
thx forte
>>162027736
It goes back into your deck I guess?
Seems like a fucking stupid card.
hows this ambush deck found on leddit? i need a new meme deck to play.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.625k2.625k2.625k2.625lm.625lm.5-HbC.5-HbC.5-HbC.5-Hbq.5-Hbq.5-Hbq.628BY.628BY.5-HbM.5-HbM.5-HbM.625kq.625kq.628BE.628BE.65vt2.65vt2.65vt2.65-_K.65-_K.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.62AcY.62AcY.62AcY.659nE.65vtg.65vtg.5-K1S.5-K1S.62D36#
>>162027872
H-He's fast.
anon I need a concede please 55342
>>162027872
HAYAI
>>162027872
Ne~ ne~
>>162027848
don't do it
creed isn't even worth the sitting around and waiting
only ambush mechanic you try memeing with is unica+shadowed assassin.
> own some guy
> the usual disconnect timer
> wait it out like a good little cuck
> this happens
> I get a loss
W O W
O
W
>>162027938
thanks dork
>>162028091
Worse than hitler
>>162028114
>storm haven
good
>>162027827
Its intent is to fuck up draw consistency.
It has a secondary effect of making reno and the other highlander cards worthless until you draw the excess weasels out of your deck.
But yeah it's a huge meme because the big card that would enable anti reno shenanigans, baron rivendare, has been out of standard for over a year.
>>162028114
Get rekt
>>162028207
but he was great
>>162028187
not a dork!
>>162028232
I thought these screens were pitch-black but thanks to you if I adjust the brightness on the screen I can see everything on the field
Time to pay more attention to these posts.
>>162028327
great at ruining Germany, nationalism, and the West forever maybe
>>162028583
>Germany being ruined
It's was never good lemao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
>>162028327
>lost and then killed himself
He seems kinda shit actually
What is the correct emote response to "What should I do?"
It really feels like haven is cheating when they themsis on six and the board is loaded with beastcall arias
>>162028821I SEEE YOUR WEAKNESS
How does control Shadow fare? Does it run Mordecai? I'm going to assume it runs 3 cerb and lotf.
>>162028583
>ruining Germany
The only thing Germany ever did is ruining lives of civilized Europeans.
Fuck them.
>>162028908
Thanks for wasting a banish on a token!
>>162028941
ok, bad against haven,
yes and LotF
>>162028804
"good job"
>>162028941
It's not great
>>162028941
You want 3 Cerberus in every Shadow deck until further notice. LotF and Mordecai are both optional, there's no set core for a "Control Shadow" right now since the deck isn't really meta, so lists are all over the place in composition.
>>162028941
>>162029110
The newest variant made by a group of Shadow players runs 0 LotF and 3 Morde.
Their reasoning is that Morde is just way more resilient and LotF tends to be overkill on a winning board.
>>162029075
Wow gee I banished something that can be repeatedly resummoned if it dies, what a terrible decision!
>>162029049
I value Kant and Anglicanism higher than the lives of however many filthy continentals
The French deserved it
>>162029226
Can I see a deck list?
>urding an evolved ancient elf
>>162029235
And you let Shadoloo gets away with their more annoying Last Word.
Like, 2 damage to your face and a 4/4 body.
>>162029308
Correction. It is a midrange set
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63E_6.63E_6.63E_6.6736Y.6736Y.5_RZQ.5_RZQ.6736i.6736i.6737K.6737K.6737K.63Kb4.63Kb4.5_TGy.5_TGy.63Kaw.63Kaw.63Kaw.63MII.63MII.63MII.675Yo.675Yo.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.63Jsg.63Jsg.63Jsg.61PnY.61PnY.61SDo.61SDo
>>162029049
>germany has ruined europe 3 times in the past hundred years
Someone really should nuke them already
>Be playing midrange sword
>Play against Haven deck thats A0 when Im B2
>Beat them
>They ragequit
>Play against another haven
>Drop lethal before they can kill me with double elanas cancer
>RAGEQUIT AGAIN
why does literally every haven player do this?
>>162029235
>i have no idea what tempo is
>>162029473
Haven attracts the worst kinds of people
>>162029473
because they can't beleive their netdeck lost
>>162029437
I think you mean the jews have ruined europe at least 3 times already.
>>162029473
Because it's fun to see people whine with green texts here.
>>162029213
flyguy is absolutely core in any shadow that isn't aggro
>draft 2 cursed generals, cerberus, mordecai and urd
>oh boy, ez 5-0
>win 4 games
>go first against sword
>hand full of 5+ pp cards
>he drops quickblader, pompous princess, aesthetic knight, floral
this is literally the 7th time i've been cucked out of a 5-0 in T2 by constructed tier bullshit
>>162029821
i meant cursed soldier
pls help need a concede for a daily.
36161
>Wake up
>Forest, Sword and Haven all get decent cards
>Blood, Dragon and Shadow are shafted again.
For fucks sake, atleast Hearthstone rotates which classes are overpowered between sets.
>>162029958
thanks anon
>>162029473
More like why does every jap do that.I know they play on phones
>>162030034
>dirt rune keeps getting broken cards
>nobody cares
This is exactly what happened to shaman
You could have prevented this.
>>162029435
Right. Some snippets regarding that decklist.
>LotF is not preferred since Unleasher and Morde are sticky enough. Gabriel is better to rush down Rune and Elf with
>if the meta is Sword, Shadow and Haven, consider replacing those Gabriel with LotF
There.
>>162029761
That's just plain untrue. It's not uncommon at all for him to be left out of Midrange and Control lists in AA and Masters. You can refer to GameAi or Japanese gibberish resources if you're not willing to believe me.
It's not like he's bad but you're running 3x Death's Breath and usually 3-6 cards at 8pp-10pp otherwise. He's an easy cut to drive your curve down if you have other priorities like Odin and want to squeeze more removal or early drops in.
>>162030145
I only have one Gabriel so I'll run one lotf and see how it does.
>>162029435
No card draw at all?
Hm
>>162030034
Eh, Nephy is cool if you manage to get Unleasher and Morde.
I can see it working with Soul Eater/Necropolis Queen on board.
>play nephy
>fish out 3 followers
>either heal 6 defense or draw 3 cards
Of course, doesn't do much against PTP.
>>162030105
>hoiiiiii its like hiroshima all over again
>>162029437
Honestly with so many child touching "refugees" in their country you'd be doing them a favor.
Need help with a concede.
16955
>>162030034
All of Sword's cards have been extremely mediocre compared to the tools it already has while Dragon has gotten one of the best reveals to date in Salamander (the lego is janky as fuck admittedly) and Blood has gotten some pretty good midrange stuff too.
Can I get a concede?
12795
>>162030108
>calamity
>petrify
>anicient alchemist that gives easy access to ptp
>juno
>pascale
we're already past that point anon, dirtrune can already answer everything, now all it needs is consistency.
>>162029437
Everywhere should just get nuked already.
I kill my opponent, he dces, I get a loss
???
>>162030349
I don't know, Samurai seems pretty damn good. I'll probably start running those.
>>162030495
Got japped
>>162030330
thx m8
SV wish list?
>Blood gets an amulet that activates vengeance for while it's up on a 2 turn countdown.
>It's calledLabyrinth of Despair
>Haven gets more NUNS
>Sword gets Alwida herself
>Camulia is back.
>>162030349
Is Salamander really that good? I see alot of people creaming themselves over it but i don't see what's so amazing about it.
I'd put that new Forest Gold above it desu.
>>162030034
they've teased like 15 out of 80 cards just relax
>>162030252
I don't have 3 morde, so I improvised with the late game cards. I got to AA with this decklist.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63E_6.63E_6.63E_6.6736Y.6736Y.5_RZQ.5_RZQ.6736i.6736i.6737K.6737K.6737K.63Kb4.63Kb4.61PnY.61PnY.5_TGy.5_TGy.63Kaw.63Kaw.63Kaw.63MII.63MII.63MII.675Yo.675Yo.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.61SDo.67ARI.67ARI.65GMy.65GMo#_=_
>>162030273
It can work out as long as you don't draw into your cards right. I got 64% winrate over 22 games with it.
>>162030643
Spartoi Lord, more good enhance dragon cards
>>162030495
It's a bug that happens sometimes. The Japanese complain about it a lot so hopefully Cygames fixes it soon.
>>162030643
>Alwida is sword LotF
FUND IT
>>162030643
>you can choose to use necromancy for shadow
>blood gets a non-shit class mechanic
>elves get removed from the face of the earth
Need a concede for daily please
86803
We can also play it out if you want
>>162030417
That's what I'm talking about.
Their deck is broken as fuck. The only problem is that people can't figure out a good sigil/rite balance and there is no clear win condition.
But the answer to that is not to shove more broken shit in.
The latest 6PP is just broken as fuck.
This needs to stop.
>>162030643
I'd like a 3 cost gain a FULL playpoint, draw a card. for Dragon.
Maybe an Amulet that lets you draw a card each turn if you have Overflow active.
And to finish it off.A supercharged Orb dragon that banishes a Target Follower or Amulet.
>>162030316
>I can see it working with Soul Eater/Necropolis Queen on board.
>cards that literally never live more than a single turn
>>162030643
blood gets an 2pp amulet with 1 turn cooldown that makes health unable to fall below 1
>>162030673
The Forest gold is probably the single best card revealed so far so that's kind of a given.
Salamander's still very efficient removal played low that scales into a response against any aggro we can expect going forward as well as any Forest decks we can predict. 3 damage means you can stop empty Ancient Elf which is probably the second most important consideration any deck has to take into account for our current meta, and might move into number one going forward.
>>162030673
It's good in respect to dragon's other board clear which is pitiful and one of the reasons it's hard to make a control dragon deck right now.
You need some combination of draw, board clear and healing to pull it off.
And dragon sucks at all of that right now.
>>162030873Did I do it right
>>162030968
i missed the forest gold, and with vague mentions of it, I can't find it in the archives.spoonfeed please
>>162030873
Thank you anon
>>162030673
It's a single target removal that turns into a board wipe late game. Don't sleep on this card.
That legendary, however, sigh
>>162031095
6pp follower. 5/5 to 7/7.
Ward.
If two cards were played before it during the turn, it does 2 damage to all enemies.
>>162013736
if it were me I'd never let you hurt Otohime
>lose to a 1 out 4
may snipes has nothing on this
>>162031095
You know Fafnir?
>6PP 5/5 -> 7/7
>[Ward] [Fanfare] Deals 2 damage to all enemies if 2 cards are played this turn
>>162031164
holy shit, how is this even balancedtime to put it in my ptp deck
>>162031095
It's a 6PP fafnir because forest didn't have enough tools already.
>>162030968
>>162030996
>>162031107
Doesn't it only come out with full power on turn 6? That's 2 turns before the game normally ends isn't it? It seems really decent but i can't help but feel like it comes out too late to actually swing the game in your favour in such a heavy elf and haven dominated meta.
>>162031164
I'm still mad.
>>162030643
sounds cool
Blood Followers that give vengance,drain on fanfare, last words until the next 1,2 turns
More followers that can banish an amulet
A draw card for Dragon that doesn't sucks
Balance between turn 1 and 2
>1mana short to kill a roping elena
>>162031107
I'm actually pretty happy with a Discard Dragon legendary. I don't play the deck and I'm not expecting it to push it over the top, but honestly, the other Dragon playstyles already have their necessary top ends. The problems with them has always been something that needs to be resolved in the bronze and silver pools, because their early game just isn't good enough to facilitate their late game right now.
>>162030643
overpowered cards for dragon and shadow
under powered cards for the rest of the crafts
t. not biased
>>162031164
>all enemies
>not even all units like fafnir.
This is a laughable level of power creep and it makes me feel like killing myself for investing in Dragoncraft.
>>162030643
Rune gets Cagliostro leader
>>162031287
You can play it on 2 as 3 damage removal.
You can play it on 6+ as a decent board wipe.
>>162031287
>start with 2 copies of salamader's breath
>use the first one to clear an early threat
>save up the second one for a bigger blowout
Ain't too hard. Surely you have other followers to stop them from killing you, right? Imprisoned Dragon, perhaps?
>>162031237
Dragoncraft more like Cuckoldcraft LMAO
which girl has the best tits?
>>162031405
>wanting old men
>>162030869
Vengeance is fine they just need more cards that can let them set it up safely or cards that can abuse vengance activating in the middle of turns. i.e. less fanfares more constants like dragons.
cards that heal up to 10 on vengeance or powerful cards do self damage capped off when you reach 10 or less.
currently its just too easy for someone to stop you at 11 and theres very little payoff besides an emergency revelation or righteous/labyrinth devil.
>>162030967
Make it 4 and immune to damage on vengeance .
>>162030417
Dirt rune feels like it has the most consistent ptp deck at least, it's just that ptp elf can also switch to combo if the matchup demands it.
>>162031405
Cygames please do this.
Sword gets floral fencer please!
>>162030417
I'm actually curious on whether will that new dude on the block be good.
You can get 2 2/2s out of the deal if you evolve and trade with him.
Is the no leggos banner actually better than the Hime/Aurelia clusterfuck banner? Im confusedMidrange sword is literally impossible at this rank
>>162031287
Turn 6 means that it'd clear Otohime boards in the current meta and likely snipe out a Cynthia that's just traded your 2/X and flooded fairies. We don't know the meta going forward anyways, all signs pointed towards Forest staying tier 1 but Haven's much more vulnerable to falling off since they're revealing a lot of strong removal for them and nothing that plays into the current archetypes. Keep in mind that Themis comes out two turns before the game ends, can't stop early aggression, and doesn't potentially come out turn 4 but sees play in a meta where something as small as a charged Foul Tempest already wipes most boards.
Versatility is kind of a big deal in a game without side decks.
>>162031495
She is my wife and NOT an old man.
help
>>162031619
>Using banner in a non-aggro deck.
>>162031619
>hime/saber banner
>mid sword being impossible at any rank
what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>162031426
>>162031428
It might work, i'm just not getting my hopes up given that i seriously doubt Dragoncraft will ever be good at things other than Aggro.
>>162031682
Cog is a gross old man and I bet he stinks
>>162031696
always go with the best/most tits
Now I'm scared of losing it
>>162031595
Only if all of her emotes are on the same level of smugness as Mordecai
>>162031696
Right. Olivia is okay, but Latham sucks.
>>162031804
"Sorry there"
Best emote in the game, hands down.
>>162031696
left
>>162031843
latham is good in arena
I just ran into a ptp sword who either never drew or discarded all his ptps in A2.
ama
gauntleted healer wants it
>that rank where you stopped having fun
what's her name bros
>>162031732
well, it's not like dragoncraft has control deck options, it's pretty pointless with ramp.
>>162031696
Right. Olivia is never a bad pick, but you're better off going with how much game ending AND stabilizing potential all in one both cards on the right have, especially in an aggressive draft class like Sword.
>>162031905
>a floral fencer that generates only a single 1/1
Noble Knight is better.
>>162031696
>left
3 evo points is gud stuff anon.
>>162031368
Shadow's win rate is mostly dragged down by Haven in the current meta, it doesn't do bad against Forest or Sword and it'd probably do better if Shadow didn't have to sacrifice their win rate against other match ups in order to improve their Haven match up with techs like Tenacious Ghost and Goblin.
Shadow's in a spot where it's bad right now but one good card could put it over the top so you might want to be careful what you wish for before the meta is nothing but Shadowand Forest.Nephthys looks like shit to me right now but it could turn out to be absolutely broken depending on where we go from here. Atomy or Tyrant enablers are something we always have to worry about too.
>>162031748
She smells nice and is a cute young girl.
>>162031732
With salamander dragon is missing only good card draw.
You can already have decent storm/ramp lists.
I have hope.
>>162031696
I'd say left just because Olivia wins games and Latham is fine in Arena. That said, you can't really go wrong here.
>>162031997
>worse than the best card in arena
>that means it's bad
>then comparing to something that costs 1 more mana
>>162031935
A0. Nobody should have to go through so much Haven shit.
>>162031997
>6/5 so he forces anything to trade with him
also noble knight being good doesn't mean latham isn't good
>>162031935
Beginner
My first game were full of filthy netdeckers full of legos
>>162031997
6/5 on turn 4 that leaves a body behind even if you trade into it with an evolve of your own makes for some pretty damn good tempo. Floral Fencer is broken, obviously, but it's not a bad pick. Just a shame it uses up a gold/lego slot.
>>162032029
Cog is a smelly old pervert (male)! Don't fall for his lies
>>162032027
ok make it overpowered cards for dragon and under powered cards for all other crafts
hows that?
Banners never die
>>162032110
>tfw going through the same shit
Let us fight towards the promised land of AA0 together, brother
Earth rite decks are kindafun.
>>162031730
>mid sword being impossible at any rank
Don't know, 11-13 winning streaks every time until Elana hell happened
Why Earth rite suddenly become more popular than Dshift??
>>162032175
If you keep insulting my wife I'm going to get upset.
>>162032110
>mfw when I finally achieve a good win rate versus haven with storm dragon in the A ranks
>>162032350
Eh, just false alarm. Last i played, I fought 7 DS out of 8 rune matches in A3.
>>162031935
still really new but 14 games in on D0 and all but two were haven netdecks
the two that weren't were banner sword and I beat them
its not that fun atm
>>162032350
because dshift has terrible matchups against most of ladder and dirt rune is sleeper annoying as fuck for everyone
drain should get baked into clash and work on defense
>>162032457
i want to FUCK Forte.
STAYIN ALIVE
STAYIN ALIVE
>new shadow silver 1PP spell that destroys a 1-defense enemy follower but also any enemy follower if you spend 8 Shadow
For what purpose? I mean, what sort of 1 defense follower will make use this card?
>>162032508
It only gets worse from there.
>>162032819
forte and the cuck with ward defending her?
Have any of the revealed cards actually been aggro cards?
>>162032819
shieldbearer detected
>>162032041
After seeing how Forest got a better fafnir and our new Lego my hope has seriously wained from when i first saw salamanders flame.
Maybe it won't be a repeat of DE where We got 2 good cards then a bunch of incredibly medicore trash.
>The other day I was leaping through ladder, completing my daily quests with ease
>Now I'm on a giant loss streak, can't even win with my best deck
why does this happen?
When you really want to kill that elf may.Sounds really shitty tho, if it's enhance 5 it still kinda alright
>>162032819
You can ping off weak guys with it.
>>162032213
>Otohime
>Saber
>Banner
One of these things doesn't belong
>>162032819
HAIYAI maybe?
>>162032819
It's good as fuck for a lategame draw where you have too many shadows to use and is decent-ish for early game board control. But completely useless in the entire midgame
>>162032845
no matter how bad it gets I won't join them though!
remove haven
>>162032945
The first Rune reveal was for Spell Aggro, so we can probably expect some more.
Honestly though, aggro decks should always be looking towards bronze and silver cards and we probably won't know much about those until we're very close to release. It's normal since individual aggro cards usually tend to be boring.
>>162032975
forced 50
>>162032956
You should not look to leggos to save the class.
It will be the core cards that do it
I can't seem to win with ptp forest. What's my goal in using this deck?
>>162032921
But it will only work if she is unevolved or you will be dumping 8 shadow
>>162032948
>i'm trying to be smart
There is Undying Resentment, Contract with Hades and Deathbrand, and you just decide to use the one with the most restriction.
>>162033009
Only if they are really 1 defense.
>>162033070
Still 1-for-1.
>>162033078
The problem is Deathbrand fits the bill and only spend 4 Shadow instead.
>>162033126
It's less of "The lego could've been amazing" and more of the message i'm getting that they've stopped giving a shit about Dragon.
Greetings from /hsg/ ;^)
>>162032350
idk, maybe people got bored of solitaire?
>>162033017
How else is otohime to be protected???
>>162033204
Yeah it's a bit weird that they would make something that is 2 less mana but twice as shadow heavy. I don't really know where it's supposed to fit
>>162033204
It's the same as banish
It's not maximum health, it's current health that has to be at 1.
Already lost 7 matches against elite Luna with her having just 1 HP left holy shit kill me I just want 200 monies REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>162033254
Ex-shaman fag here
I"ll be coming back home soon guys.
>>162033224
A Discard Dragon legend was the right choice. All the other builds suffer from their enablers being weak, not their win cons.
>>162033308
I know that, but by the time you whittle them down to 1 defense, a Phantom Howl will do a better job clearing them up.
>>162032110
Agree. Truly the purgatory of SV.
>>162033334
>>162033224
Not really.
Dragon already has storm, board flood and board clear leggos
What did you want from them in the leggo department?
Dragon leggos are fine, it's the other class cards that make it impossible to build a proper deck around them.
Also the new leggo is amazing in discard dragon.
I feel that discard dragon might actually be a thing with this being available as a finisher.
That was one of the things that discard decks seriously lacked.
>>162032350
Earth has been popular in recent tournaments, which I think is mostly meta game strategies since they can bait misplays from people expecting a DShift match up while answering specific match ups Earth does well against.
People see these lists and copy them without understanding the environment or card selection.
What if all control decks costed 5k vials and aggro decks costed 30k vials?
>>162033408
Sure, if you had it.
This can also be used as cheap lategame removal if you have an excess of shadows.
>>162033608
Elana and DShift don't even have an expensive core as it stands so that'd only reduce deck variety.
>>162033502
I think the issue is like what >>162033383 said
The lego is "fine" but discard Dragon is a hot mess of a deck that will probably horribly fail at turning imperial into a proper win-cond.
You'll probably still play Forte over it if you want reach or Salamanders if you want to clear shit.
>Win without even playing dshift
"control" sword everyone
>cucked his leonidas with petrify
Why the fuck do some people immediately surrender?
I don't understand.
>>162033358
Is Shaman the Haven version for HS?
>>162033647
>late game
And Deathbrand is relevant while being usable in every part of the game.
8 Shadow is just too high of a cost to justify its inclusion.
>>162033737
shit draws
if someone gets the perfect curve and I have a shit mulligan im surrendering
Im not dealing with that shit.
>>162033793
Shaman is Forest
>>162033793
more like Shadow or blood, where it was LITERALLY the worst class for the longest time then they reached critical mass with the card buffs.
I loved the Totems and windfury mechanic so i was pretty estatic when it got buffed into relevancy.
Doubt that my favorite classes in this game will get the same treatment.
>>162033703
Discard dragon sucks now for two reasons.
They need rites early and have no way to tutor for them.
They have no win con.
This solves one of the issues.
Win con does not have to be killing them outright. Clearing their entire board + face damage is enough.
hello, i recently started playing shadowverse and its very fun! i rerolled to make a 'runecraft spells' deck and am having fun
this is a pretty cool game so far and i like the tits and cute girls
this is one of my favorite moments when i killed this guy with his own thing. im c3 and it takes a very long time to rank up in this game even though ive been winning a lot
>>162033835
In this case the guy didn't even mulligan though.
>>162031164
>2 damage to enemy face/board
>ward with 5/5 stat
Looks like having Liza or Tia wasn't enough for forest
Reminder that Blood, Dragon, and Shadow are the dev-designated joke classes and that you should switch to a real class before it's too late.
>>162031935
I've been bouncing back and forth between A2 and A3 for like a month now. I wouldn't say I've stopped having fun but I don't really have any ambition to climb any higher.
what's the pick?
>>162033608
aggro and control are both shit every good deck is either midrange, tempo or combo, or in elf's case all three at once
>>162034035
>luna will never be meta again
You take that back. My proof is me getting to AA0.
>>162033993
Meanwhile in AA
>>162033993
Haven will beat that optimism out of you.
need a concede!
51206
>>162034117
i'd go left
>>162033968
What do you think would be a better way to fix the first issue, more cards that fulfil Rites role or a better way to get to your rites?
>>162034117
Left
>>162034117
>2 girly girls
>Or the manliest motherfucker in the game
>>162034213
Thanks AlsoImStupid!
>>162034000
Sandbagging
>>162034172
post deck
>>162034184
You're a heartless monster.
>>162034209
haven has been a pretty good matchup for me though. ive only lost when someone has a crazy elena turn and i have no but fire thing
>>162034174
>>162034236
The second.
If you give dragon a 2PP draw an amulet it would make discard dragon totally viable.
With 3x that and 3x rites you can pretty much grantee turn 3 rites.
Discard dragon with rites on the field is a powerhouse.
They can fill their hand up and use followers for board clear/face damage.
Some more followers with discard effects would be nice as well.
>>162034236
If Dragon im general got some better draw not held behind 6pp+ then we'd be talking. The class has always suffered from consistency, not power.
>>162034435
The one here.
>>162030713
What kind of madman uses phoenix roost against rune?
>>162034117
right
Strategem can be useful if you curve low enough.
Meanwhile paladin is not great since you can't afford to evolve her most of the time.
Need a concede please thanks
43680
>>162034482
Elana is basically a free win for Dshift, Storm Haven will probably wreck you though
>>162034606
Absolute.
>bigbug gives me exactly what I need 4 times
>>162034662
those birds are tough. it feels great when you make them pick up an amulet thats been ticking down for a few turns though
>>162034662
>Elana is basically a free win for Dshift, Storm Haven will probably wreck you though
They can but it's not a free win if I can go first and kill their momentum with glow and draw into removal like fire chain
>>162034701
Virulent Hornet? They are just great against those fat followers of theirs.
>>162034640
Thanks
new thread where
>>162034501
Fair enough, might evne make PtP another viable finisher if you combine it with Imperial.
>>162034518
I can't help but feel like it lacks both when you compare it to Haven, Rune, sword and Forest.
>>162034890
i'm making one right now with no hsg in the OP and a vampy pic named weebshit
>>162034837
He also gave the ward when I played him on an empty board after the themis, protected him from the evo
>>162034972
did an idolmaster OP edition happen yet?
>>162033160
Getting ptp out and 30 shadows, also staying alive
>>162035116
you can only post those on 2chan
>>162034890
Well, I can make one. Do we have anything new to add?
>>162034942
Yes although the problem might be pulling ptp instead of rites early on.
But yes, ptp discard is very strong.
Altered fate can give you a full hand from 5/6 cards instead of one card less.
And an altered fate with a full hand gives you 17 shadows.
>>162035358
Yeah, if things keep going at this pace we're just a few key cards away from making a viable Discard dragon, maybe a few more from Ramp/Mid-range making a return.
Thanks for giving me a little bit of hope.
>>162035358
PtP discard dragon doesn't work right now because too often you will need to use Altered Fate but you have Rite out already. You will mill yourself. It won't work onto Dragon finds a way to get more tokens in the game.
Currently, having big stormers like Forte and Genesis is a much better finisher (albeit still not great) than PTP
New bread
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>>162035539
nice
>>162035539
Okay, that was retarded.
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>>162035539
Great work anon, here is a golden Liza for your effort.
>>162035685
Queen Liza (my wife) is so cool.
>>162035530
>you will mill youself
No you will generate an additional 9 shadows.
It does not matter how many cards you mill if you finish the game before you run out of deck.
Ding dong diiing doooong~
>>162020232
Why aren't you waiting for the expansion?