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Mighty MOE edition

*****NEW TO THE GAME?*****
Tell us your server and get a referral code from a fellow /wowsg/ to get extra bonus credits/flags/XP and two free premium ships (one instantly, one after you research a T6 ship).

>5.15 (LIVE)
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-515/

>Missouri Soon™
http://worldofwarships.asia/en/news/announcements/ver-05_15_1-patchnotes/

>Statistic tracker - Stalk your favorite wowsg:
http://warships.today
http://wows-numbers.com/

>In-game chat channel:
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully ranger
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel", password is "vidya"
SEA Channel: /vg/

>Mostly updated guide:
http://pastebin.com/tfYw51Rr

>Clans
[BOTES] on NA
[BOTES] on SEA
[HOTEL] on EU

Scuttled thread >>161870985
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First for AA specc'd duck
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HOLY FUCK
HOLY FUCK
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>>161981705
250 flood chance flags
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This just in: Missouri has a third shell option. Takes 15 minutes to load and has a lethal radius the size of an entire base. Targets outside that radius still receive splash damage and have their visibility reduced to 8km, just like a cyclone.
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>>161981705
50 ocean soul camo.
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Second for 155mm Mogami HEAP on steroids.
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>750k free XP
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>>161981732
>>161981926
...worse
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>>161982052
>not even a 20 mil
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>>161982145
I dont even need money. The only thing I dont need is money. Im pretty sure that the WG container script or whatever knows it, just like when I never win the first battle of the day.
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A tournament would be nice instead of giveaways.
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>>161981982
>Not knowing that you could get it for less than a Tirpitz.
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>75th anniversary of Pearl Harbor tomorrow
>no events, deals, or anything from WG
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>>161982145
Stop that.
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>>161983504
Uhhh, how about moving to a relevant server?

http://worldofwarships.asia/en/news/specials-and-events/sse-pearl-harbor/
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>Japs get specials
>Americans don't

The irony in this is pretty good. It's just like Pearl Harbor all over again.

NA server might get specials on the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing, for World of Warplanes.
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>>161983620
I don't speak in squares, why would I move to the SEA server? I'd rather WGNA get their heads out of their asses.
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>what makes Mighty Mo magnificent?
>"Beefier citadel armor than her sister Iowa."
>fixed armor scheme a feature
>so you're paying 120-ish dollars for a perm camo iowa that won't take shit as hard as she currently does

))))))))))
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>>161983504
Why commemorate another US falseflag attack?

US just ignored the japs to have another excuse to go to a war, just like the USS Maine during the cubaspanish war, the RMS Lusitania during the 1ww or the 9/11 during the irak/afg war.
Fuck pearl harbour
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>2v2 tournament
>everyone will partner up with each other and I'll get left behind
oh god it's like being back at school all over again
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>>161983620
Is this real?

Asia doing another Pearl Harbor and having a big celebration with specials and events.
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>>161983519
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>>161983986
>Not paying less than a Tirpitz.

Pleb
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>>161983986
>Missouri and Wisconsin incorporated the most significant change in armor from the South Dakota class: the increase from 11.3 inches (290 mm) to 14.5 inches (370 mm) of the vertical Class A armor on the forward transverse armored bulkhead. The extra armor provided protection from fire directly ahead, which was considered more likely given the high speed of the Iowa class.

is of historicity tovarisch kapitan )))))))

I doubt it'll actually make much of a difference in game. Bulkhead armor means jack shit since rounds from the front are stopped by the retarded overmatch mechanics rather than the armor. The only exception to this is Hotel, and Hotel isn't going to have any issues going through the improved armor anyway.
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>>161983620
I wonder who's behind this event
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>>161984276
What's your name?
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>>161985835
LunaticRed
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Good morning /wowsg/
May good MM and nice botes come to you today.
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>yfw you're not F22xRaptor who got cucked so hard he ran off to another general
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>>161982937
I don't even know what you're talking about. Euro server btw.
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>>161987451
Where did he go?
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>>161987451
Good riddance desu.
It's been nicer here lately.
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>>161987451
>being this obsessed
I'm still here mastigos

How does it feel to be worse than me in two different games?
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>>161987331
Same to you anon, and may the glorious hotel shells always hit your target.
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is the Bismarck so much better than the Gneisenau that it can do without torpedoes? I feel like I will really miss them if/when I upgrade
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>>161988392
what
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>>161988392
Buy Tirpitz if you want more torp knife fighting action
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>>161984276
What tournament? I'm too shit to play in a tourney but I'm curious nonetheless
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>>161981471
Tempted to post the 'read the filename' pic again tbqhwyf
>Elited both Minekaze and Mutsuki before split
>Did 140 kXP worth of clubbing in Minekaze
>Split happens my Minekaze XP sticks with the ship (i.e.: moves to branch line)
>My Mutsuki (V) for some reason has modules to research
>Send support ticket: wtf WG gib wreath
>Anon, we transferred your Minekaze XP to Mutsuki for you :3
>wtf there's no XP on Mutsuki or Minekaze
>Hey wait a minute, I didn't have that much free XP before

>>161988392
>'Delet this' button at suicide range
>'You are losing' aura that covers half the map
I know which one I'd prefer.
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>>161988458
Bismarck doesn't have torpedoes, I like having them on Gneisenau, so I'm asking if it's still worth switching
>>161988648
45 euros for a free ship with torpedoes is a bit too steep for me comrade
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>>161987657
You know I probably should take her out for a battle.
Thanks anon.
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>>161988719
See >>161979776
2v2 tournament for prizes
Should have a 3v3 tournament desu.
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>>161988893
>tfw orange on statskun list
Nobody would want to partner with me anyways and I'll probably be at work during the tournament
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>>161987651
Kill yourself kiddo, k thx.
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Holy mother of god, Hindenburg is a flamethrower but it can actually punish broadsiding shitters.
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>>161988812
Nevermind it was a mistake.
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Reminder to stock up on freeXP for Missouri.

She's only 750,000 free xp.

That's only $130 for her!
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>match with only 1 T10 BB per side
>they're both the first ones to die because they get spotted within flamethrower range and neither can turn around because of the other so they just get melted to death by smoked CA/DD fire having to try to stop and start reversing
fun and engaging
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>>161989914
>no doubloons
>only USS Missouri
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>>161989914
>only $130
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>>161990058
You won't have any doubloons after you buy her.

>>161990361
But she's so thicc. Surely you can spare $130.
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Oh fugg lads what's it gonna be?
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>>161991265
250 flooding flags
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>>161991265
Better GPU
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>>161991265
250 damage con
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>>161991318
>>161991345
>>161991350
rip me
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So why do people complain about divs?
Surely nobody is that autistic that they actually expect other people to play the game in a less enjoyable way just so they can fit into someone else's personal view of what makes for valid stats.
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>>161990739
That's not thicc, that's lanky. The ship equivalent of anorexia.
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@161991523
>bringing it up again

I'm on to you shitposter

no (You)'s today
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>>161992095
(You)
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>>161992095
t. nofriends
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What's a ship you like that no one else does /wowsg/?

Myogi
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>>161988743
>so I'm asking if it's still worth switching
Just keep both of them, you dipshit.

Train up a new captain.
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>>161993759
guess I could do that but I only have 2 slots left and not a lot of credits
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>>161993557
Kawachi :^)
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>>161993557
Ibuki
I think there's another anon here who likes her, but generally she seems pretty unloved.
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>>161993818
2 is greater than 1, so its enough.
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>>161993557
My brother of African-American descent
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>>161989073
I'm a purple but I rarely post anything with my name in it so people keep calling me a literal who. ;_;
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I have a Mogami. I enjoy her greatly. However her lack of radar and having no future prospect of Radar makes me sad, because I would very much like to bully baDDies and bong cruisers who use smoke to hide.

Are American cruisers worth it for the radar? I have a Cleaveland, and am reluctant to get the Pensacola due to it having shit concealment and a very exposed citpussy, and it just seems like it would be a pain in the ass to grind through. And even then I don't know if the New Orleans is any good, or even what tier USN cruisers get radar.
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>>161995030
kriegsmarine is currently more meta that USN ships

might as well go ))))))
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>>161995030
Better off with the Russians desu.
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>>161981982
Why is raising too much money a bad thing?
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>>161995596
see: star citizen
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>>161995030
Zao is worth it. Also have you tried torping RN CLs that think they're being cheeky by sitting in smoke?
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>>161995831
Of course I always do that if I get the chance. But its not the same as actively fucking up a DD that is trying to run away from you through smoke.
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>>161995951
Go home Germany, you're drunk.
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>>161995831
>inna Kagero with 8km 72kt torps
>Neptune sitting in smokecloud
>Not moving
>Fire torps
>First Blood
>Devastating strike

Poor Nep.
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>Pearl Harbor events
>Not 500% bonus exp for IJN CVs if they sink USN BB
WG missed the opportunity there.
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I'm curious, /wowsg/. What do you think is the ideal tournament setup, i.e. tier, number of ships, restrictions, format, etc?

>>161995951
Are those 11" secondaries?
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>>161996482
Same as team battles.

Anything less than that is a meme that is not representative of real gameplay.
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>>161993557
secondary build izumo
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>>161995951
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>>161996002
It doesn't work that way since you only get 30 seconds to fire at said DD (20 if you're in a VMF CA). Radar is more of a follow up to finish off that DD that's almost dead, or to force some invisfiring cunt out of his smoke cloud. You won't be able to fuck up a good DD just by popping your radar.
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>>161996482
Go full meme, no need to take it seriously.
5v5, tier 1 only.
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>>161996727
7v7, then? What tier? Reminder that it was 6 on NA and 8 on EU. Not sure what it was on SEA.
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>>161996482
T8, 7 players as bare minimum. Domination format.

Ideal would be 12 players, since that would be reflective of the actual game the playerbase plays. But I guess that can't happen because ">muh ESPORTS" just don't allow for prize pools big enough for such a large number of players. Which is one of the main reasons why WoT ESPORTS are boring and uninteresting to watch.
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>>161981520
More like Muddy Moe
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>>161996482
fuck off tripfag
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>>161989914
More like
>No Crew
>No Consumables
>No Doubloons
>Only USS Misery
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>>161996482
1v1 CVs only
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>>161996908
7v7, though I'd rather have >>161996920 12v12. 2v2 is a meme that shares no real similarities to the actual game most everybody plays, excludes CV/DD, and only glorifies damage farming over teamplay and objective pushing.

T8 is ideal because ships are still maneuverable and just deadly enough to allow for interesting gameplay. Plus more variety in selection, even if some of that selection are premium ships. Pro play is already about smoke camping, it would only get worse at T10.

Limit the number of ships that can be repeated. For example: no more than 1 Bismarck per team, only 2 Bensons, etc.

Domination or Hotzone modes. Standard or straight out deatmatch/max-damage would end up only in long range camping and kiting.
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>>161998098
>He thinks the smoke blob meta is still relevant
All the pro teams left that behind months ago, kiddo.
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>>161996482
If we're talking about small scale tournaments or something (less than 7v7 or whatever which would be good to play but assuming we can't get whole teams together) I've always liked 3v3.
It's the size of a larger div for people who enjoy/are used to playing those, and you can have either 1 of each of the good classes or a more varied mix of others, and it wouldn't be too difficult to work out times for 6 people as opposed to like 14 - 24.
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>>161998393
>pro WoWS teams
this just sounds funny
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Filename thread?
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>>161998393
Then I assume they have moved onto more dynamic and interesting tactics and not just a different form of camping? I assume this has surely made BOTESPORTS more fun to watch and led to an increase in viewers?
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>>161998968
I think what anon means is that they swap out one Atago for a Chapayev and press T every few minutes.
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>>161997221
>>161990361
>>161990058
Just you wait, Missouri is gonna get premium shells.
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>>161999097
>Fire cracker
>Use against another capital ship or cruiser
>Destroy all but their enclosed AA mounts
>CVnt comes in and finishes them with impunity

do it
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>Last 3 matches
>Tears of the Desert

PLS STOP
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>>161993557
sampson
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>>161993557
mutsuki
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>>161993557
Beniscola

Sunken City

You'll never guess who i am :DDDD
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>>161999771
i got shard 5 times in a row yesterday
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>>161998920
Rinne best Strike
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>>162000225
Are you me?

tfw 200+ games on her before the tier shift
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>>161999771
But was it epicenter? That's the worst.
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>>162001002
Standard battle is worse. The map is so open that DDs can easily get through to the caps when there are still plenty of ships left.
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>>161993557
Black Swan.
And do you mind sharing Myogi ?
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>>161995030

>Are American cruisers worth it for the radar?
No.
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>>161996482
What do you think is the ideal tournament setup
12 cv's per side. Darken the sky with planes.
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>having a decent start to a match in my Benson
>next thing I know a friendly Shimakaze unloads 2 salvos of torps into my side at point blank range as we pass each other and instantly kills me
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>>162001002
Ive had all three gamemodes now.
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>>162001652
inb4N3debate
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>>162001652
wot, no Agincourt?
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>>162001797
I want it for keks
L3 is more practical but I genuinely don't care
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>>162001652
That looks surprisingly non-retarded, at least compared to the usual 'muh RN' power fantasy trees.

Also, QM a best BC
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>>162001862
You have a point, would it be a tier IV or V?
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>>162001652
Nelson should be tier VIII m8 just so it can powercreep the NC at bow on memes.
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>>162001652
>No love for DDs

On the other hand, having the original Dreadnought would be great.
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>>162002147
I think it could be tier VIII quite happily, it just wont be allowed to cos "muh big 7" are all tier VII cos WG are a meme
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>>162002330
I don't dislike them, I just know literally nothing about them to make a DD line
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Reminder that Balance is the way of the future
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>>162001632
shoulda gotten the fuck outta his way, blyat
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>>162001632
>these are the sort of players that launch torpedoes without checking what's in front of them
Guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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>inna hatsuharu
>t8 game
>epicenter on trident
MAKE IT STOP
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>>162001472
Does anyone have that screenshot of a Des Moines vs 12 CVs in a training room?
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>>161996482
Tier 7, 15 point captains.
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>>162002457
Fair enough. I honestly don't know too much about them myself other than Glowworm ramming Hipper.
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>>162003869
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https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/12/06/wows-tap-insider-news-6-xii-2016/
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>>162004467
>ST accounts for sale on Asia
Aha
Ahahaha
Ahahahahahahahah

benlis how much did you buy yours for :^)
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>super tester in a kraut DD chases a CV all match
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>>162005650
>ST in the T10 Kraut DD
>sails straight into the enemy team and instantly dies at the start of the match
WG pls buff
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>>162005790
Based wehraboos ensuring pre-release buffs for the entire lane.
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>>162005790
>yfw you realize that the powercreep of new lines is mainly due to STs sucking hard enough that WG has to reblance ships so that STs can perform well in them
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>>162006097
>>162006142
The other one I've seen (T8 I think) also died first in the game but he ate torpedoes in smoke, so expect them to have the best hydro in the game.
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>tfw you literally never get to be on red team

What are the odds that I keep getting put on green?
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>>162006142
Don't worry, an alternative branch of USN DDs will have a 9km radar.
And a national peculiarity))))) upgrade which decreases shell arcs.
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>>162006262
>literally haven't ever played a single game on the red team
Bug?
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>>162005790
>>162005650
see
>>162004467
>>162004904
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>>162006262
You're more likely to end up on the red team than I am to get a supercontainer.
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>>162006262
what
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>>162006262
>>162006328
>>162006351
>>162006481
>They don't play color blind mode
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>>162006915
yeah, cause im not color blind
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>Mission 8, Task 3
>Do 25000 HP of damage to enemy ships by fire
>Reward: 500 credits

Uh that reward doesn't seem right
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>>162007506
take your scraps peasant
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>>162006915
>The officers planned to, instead, attack the American fleet from a Western Hemisphere base, likely Bermuda, while other ships based in Canada and the West Indies would attack American shipping and protect Imperial trade. The navy would also bombard coastal bases and make small amphibious assaults. India and Australia would help capture Manila to prevent American attacks on British trade in Asia and perhaps a conquest of Hong Kong. The officers hoped that such acts would result in a stalemate making continued war unpopular in the United States, followed by a negotiated peace.
>the britbongs had basically the same idea as the Japs in how they'd have to fight the Americans
Neat.
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Surely no one in /wowsg/ will be dumb enough to buy Missouri anytime soon™.... right?
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>>162008209
Raptor might.
Arlios can just use stream money
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>>162008209
I'm going to do it right now and you can't stop me!
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>>162008450
i cant, but i can call you an idiot over the internet
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>>162008209
>400k fXP in the bank
If the right promotions come up, anything is possible.
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>>162008209
I already have 469,180 free XP laying around so might as well when I get close to it.

I'd trade her for kitakami sama any day though
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>>162008646
It's okay anon, I wouldn't really do anything that dumb.
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>~1500 games with IJN DDs
>fuck this shit
>Mahan get
>full stock + retraining
>still pwn everything

So this is how it feels not to be cuckd every game. pro balans WG
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>>162009356
Just wait till you get Fletcher.
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>>162008209
At this point she would cost less than an Atlanta for me, so I might.

Thanks supercontainers and 3x weekends with papa papas.
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Is Furutaka a fun bote?
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>>162009781
She is now.
When you get the C hull and 203 guns at least.
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Tone and Kitakami surprise dual pack when
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>>162009781
Torp arcs are very fun.
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>>162010205
Tone would be nice but I hope KTKM never comes back for as long as this game lives.
Fuck that boat and everyone who played it.
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>>162010382
I want to torp wall you with it, anon.
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>>162010486
You wouldn't be the first one to teamkill me with it.
It's the only boat in the game that's vastly scarier on my own team than the enemy team.
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>>162010851
I fondly remember the matches in CBT where the moment a KTKM was spotted, people would either try to sink it or get the fuck away. And then the ocean filled with white and red indicators. Good times.
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Kitakami with a torpedo booster
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>>162011186
imagine the compensation repair bill
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>>162011186
Send that idea to WG.
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>>162011305
to be honest it'd be fun april fools mode. 15 v 15 kitakamis with quick reloads
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>>162011302
>Go into debt from one game
>Continue to go so far into debt from repair bills that you start owing people real money

wew
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>>162012592
I wish that April's Fools gamemode of space battleships came back. Never got to play it ;_;
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>>162012792
Next Monday, goy.
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>>162012857
Wrong Graf you turbocuck.
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>>162012912
What a shame
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>>162008286
Over $150 worth of doubloons for a slightly up-armoured Iowa with radar, I'd rather spend that on getting a t10

Something I'd get in the long run though if I ever decide to save up my free exp.
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how do these work? do you pay 50 dubs per game, or how long does it last?
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>>162013738
fiddy per game

is good deal, da?)))))))))))
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>>162013738
1 per match
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>>162013898
>>162013909
wow, my SS grandfather didn't get executed for that
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>>162014124
maybe he shoulda won the war
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>>161993557
New York
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>>162013738
50 doub per game. You can earn them through various rewards instead of paying, don't waste your money.
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>>161993557
Storozhevoi ))))
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>>162014589
I got 10 or 15 from containers but I ticked auto refill and now it sucked 50 dubs out of me. never again
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>>162014802
Just click the drop down arrow and change it to charge you credits instead of doubloons. For some consumables it's practically mandatory to run the premium version.
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>>162014981
kys luckshitter
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>>162014981
Congrats anon.
I hope you enjoy your month of botes.
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>get premium
>lose will to grind
>feel bad because you're wasting prem time
>play
>do poorly
>stop playing
>feel bad yet again
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>>162015312
>play Armored Warfare
>fuck this game is dead
>play War Thunder
>fuck I suck dick at this, but maybe I'll get better
>invest in a month of premium
>nope, not getting better, fuck I suck cock at this
>start playing Botes
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>>161987520

Not him but its a flawed rationale that you would get enough free XP from missions in the Campaigns, super crates and game play to bring the conversion price for the remaining XP down to $40-$50-ish. This is totally untrue, insofar as you could get it for free by the same token by just saving for months and months, but to even get 300-400k free XP saved up, the equavilant of about $50-$60 worth of exchange (at the favorable 35-1 rate) you still need another 400k to 350k to earn flat, which still would take months even with the Campaigns and such.
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>>162011186
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STAnon here

Just got info from WGing, Assuming the Missouri does well (and makes money that is) Prem Musashi is in the works as well as a Prem T10 CV after the CV rework. You heard it here first.
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which cruiser line will enable me to kill DD's with ease and battle other cruisers comfortably?
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>>162018094
>Prem Musashi is in the works
For what purpose? She'd just be a vastly worse Yamato.
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>>162018094
proofs? Preferably IGN?

Thank you, regards ST Coordinator
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>>162018094

cont'

Also look forward to prems with SUPER high Silver costs, like in the 200-300 mil range. Again, heard it here first.
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>>162018216
Russians or US.
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>>162018265
weebs and wehraboos will buy anything

see: prinz eugen
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>>162015662
>play Armored Warfare
>fuck this game is dead
No idea about US, but on EU you can play PvP without huge wait times in the evening.

Obsidian are fucking retards, though, they split up their already small playerbase into three modes.

>play War Thunder
just turn off all details, all tres and bushes and then play BALANS Soviet vehicles

>start playing Botes
good choice, enjoy youre botefu
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>>162018280

Yeah cause I want to lose my status while I actively breach my NDA.

>>162018265

Why release the Missouri? Its just another shitty Iowa. She still eats face pens at angles over 40.
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>>162018265
I would hope a Prem Musashi has the wing 155mm guns
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>>162018094
>Prem T10 CV
rip my wallet
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>>162018265
Musashi was supposed to be slightly better in specs than Yamato though. Better radars and shit.
And she never lived long enough to have secondaries replaced with AA guns, so she'd be more like a brawler. With really slow turning turrets. Yeah, fuck this, you're right.
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Gut says its the Shimano (sp?) The 3rd Yamato hull that got sunk 2 mins out of port by a sub. The info didnt say specifics but that's the only one I can think of that makes sense at T10 other than some balans Soviet boat.
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>>162018519
>brawling in high tier BB's that arent german when grosser kurfurst will just slam your citpussy for even coming near it without being bow on
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>>162018471
>>162018094
Coral Sea now.
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>>162018346
But I'm a massive disgusting hotelfag weeb and I wouldn't spend a bunch on getting a crap version of a ship I already have and don't enjoy the gameplay of.

>>162018412
>>162018459
>>162018519
Missouri isn't worse than Iowa though, she's improved over the baseline, whether or not you think it's enough to justify it.
A premium Sushi would presumably have the wing 155's meaning she'd be even worse CV fodder with no AA and would actually also have shittier secondaries than the regular Hotel because they fire AP which is close to useless. Even if she didn't (because she did live long enough to get a refit to change out her secondaries for extra AA, just not as much as Hotel) she'd still be worse because her last refit left her with less 25's than the current Yamato and half the number of 127's.
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>>162018094
>Prem Musashi is in the works
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>>162018684

Missouri isn't worse than Iowa though

I've already played as/against it and screwed around with it in the Training room. I got cits on it in my Monty, Yam, *and* Iowa, at all the same ranges and angles that I could cits on Iowa. Its exactly the same in BB vs. BB fights. I assume that it gives extra protectiong from CA's rounds but that would be about it (and kinda unnecessary due to low damage from CA cits and rarity anyway).
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>>162018612

Lol, just thought about this, they should put the Admiral Kuznetsov in game, but once a plane is launched it cant be recalled as it dies upon relanding.
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>>161996354
>in Tirpitz
>Neptune approaching bow on
>3 citpens, 33k damage and devastating strike in a salvo

Again today;

>In Hindenburg
>Smokeshitter NepNep smoke finishes
>Smack my 12 glorious AP shells at his side
>4 citpens and she's gone

I love RN ships
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>>162018925
And?
We already know that she's not a substantial improvement, nobody is arguing that she is.
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>>162018925
Most Cas can citpen Iowa through the belt, the bow and stern (and their transverse armored bulkheads) are of zero interest, cruiser AP can't pen there anyway.

The reduced armor on the secondaries might be a more meaningful drawback, most HE shells will be able to destroy the DP turrets.

And the RADAR, of course. DDs obviously needed another kick in the balls.
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>>162018684
Looks like it's time for sekrit documents, tovarisch
>The Musashi ingame is based on sekrit documents where her guns were replaced with 3x2 51cm turrets and they contribute to her AA rating with Type 3 shells. Her armor is also improved as detailed in the upgrade (of balans)))) that would've put her somewhere between Yamato-class and Design A-150 "Super Yamato". She was also outfitted with quad 25mm guns as opposed to the traditional triple 25mm guns and equipped with the most advanced radar (consumable!) at the time
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>>162019154
>she's improved over the baseline,
>>162018925
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>>162019273
if they let the musashi's main guns be dual purpose im gonna be mad as fuck
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>>162018684
>Musashi is worse therefore we shouldn't have it

Good, maybe they should stop adding premiums that are better then the in tree variants (Atagoy, Payfast and Leningrad)
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>>162019273
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>>162011186
What if we gave the KTKM absurdly long reload times but a torpedo reload booster consumable with a 1 min cooldown? This would serve as a rudimentary ammo system since the amount of torps that the KTKM could shit out is now governed by the number of charges on it's torp booster.
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>>161996354
>>162019098

>In Konig
>Cheeky Fiji sitting in some smoke a few km's away firing it's shit at me
>Take a blind shot into the smoke with the two front turrets
>Citihit and enemy ship destroyed

This game has some pretty nice moments. What's also good is like you said, firing torps into smoke and getting a hit/and destroying a ship hiding there.
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>>162019302
Yes and she is.
Just because it's not a massive effective improvement, having slightly thicker armor (even if it's not going to do much) and radar is literally the definition of an improvement.
A premium Musashi on the other hand would be literally just a Yamato but in a straight up vastly worse configuration with worse secondaries and AA.
How are you having trouble understanding this?
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>>162019570
>Implying they won't do bullshit like giving Musashi's 155mm HE
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>>162018612

Also could be the Intrepid, but upgraded post 1945 somehow. Essex is already at T9 so slight upgrades could make it a fair T10.
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>>162019238
>DDs obviously needed another kick in the balls.
I'm not trying to argue that they need nerfs, but considering how many high tier games have like 5-6 DDs per side it's hardly like they're in a terrible state.
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>>162019670
(cont) or 10km base range
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>>162019570

(even if it's not going to do much)

It does nothing against the thing that matters, and that's AP Pens by BB's. That's like giving a DD super AA only effective against Fighters. Its an improvement, but hardly where it matters. The people that spend ~$120 on getting the Free XP for the Mis are gona be sorely disappointed when they find its a reskinned Iowa with radar (that is inferior to the KM counterparts).
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>>162019670
Even if they chose to give her HE secondaries they'd still be worse.
With how inaccurate secondaries are, I'd take the 6 12.7cm guns firing every 5 seconds over 3 15.5cm guns firing every 12 seconds.
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>>162018612
Shinano is hardly T10 material. Hell, the ship had so many flaws from its rushed conversion to a carrier that it couldn't even shrug off a single torpedo.
Would bet on Zuikaku, famous for having kept on fighting even when she ran out of planes.
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>>162019901
>They can't increase base accuracy of secondaries and make them sniper like in was in closed beta
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>>162019831
You're preaching to the choir here m8. I think premium Missouri that's just buyable in the tech tree is a shitty idea and people will be idiots to fall for it too because there's no real reason to buy her. If they want to do these ships they should be rewards for CW or something like that.
I just think a premium Musashi would be even worse if only because they'd have just flat out asspull some retarded shit to make her not just a Yamato that's worse in every way.
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>>162019953

It came to mind, but Im starting to lean more on the Intrepid. Most, by good margin, of prem ships are ships that are preserved as museums or held an important role in history. And for a high tier (10) CV, I can only think of a few appropriate ones, Midway, which is already on the tree, the Intrepid, which if upgraded fits well. The Enterprise COULD work but they'd have to stick T10 planes on it to make it fair which would look odd since all the images of it are pretty consistent showing F6's and F8. No UK CV makes sense (from a prem/famous ship standpoint at T10).

captcha sushi picks, sign that the Musashi will be great.
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>>162020104
Yeah they could, and if they wanted to they could take us back to the days before our current standard battle where 15% of games ended in draws.
They remove some of these things for a reason, and they've said in the past that they don't want secondaries to be super accurate because it's a system with almost no player input.
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>>162020230
I want a RN CV. If only to command those sexy Spitfires (Seafires?) into battle.
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>>162019953
Shinano took the torpedo just fine. She was, like most IJN ships, lost due to poor damage control. Zuikaku on the other hand was literally used as bait.
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>>162020430
>She was, like most IJN ships, lost due to poor damage control
And being just flat out unfinished.
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>>162020305

make them controlable, and accurate. They only fire when controled and behave you know, like they should. I'd be willing to trade that buff to BB's and give all DD's a blanket buff to their torps in speed, sight distance damage, flood chance, everything.
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>>162020523
>I'd be willing to trade that buff to BB's and give all DD's a blanket buff to their torps in speed, sight distance damage, flood chance, everything.
Oh good, another change that would make T10 worse than it already is.
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>>162020589

For controlable Secondaries on BB's, CV's, and CA's? Yeah fuck T10 anyway, boring as shit tier. I want to use those casemates on the Arizona and Nagato. BTW you give controlable secondaries and suddenly the USN CA's get balanced. They basically have Atlanta's strapped to their sides.
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>>162020305
They said they didn't want Torpedo soup anymore yet they added Poi with 16 torepdo salvo
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>>162020821
WG's definition of torpedo soup is different from ours. They literally said so in one of their blogs.
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>>162018094
Actual ST here, you are full of shit. The next big premium will be one of the Ise-class battleships with full CV mechanics available to it, after the CV rework is implemented.
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>>162020781
It'd make lower tiers worse too.
T10 is bad because the powercreep encourages people to play in a way that mitigates risks to their ships, and thus leads to passive gameplay. If suddenly everyone is more afraid of getting within secondary range of other ships, then people don't want to brawl, you buff the shit out of torpedoes and suddenly you get the same kind of problems that the Shimakaze caused before they nerfed it a while back where people are too scared to move into torpedo range of anything because of how devastating it is to eat even one and how much harder they are to dodge meaning that most players will just avoid the problem altogether.
Those US CAs won't get to use their fancy secondaries because suddenly they have much deadlier BBs and DDs to deal with while still having to get within suicide range to get any noticeable change.
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>>162020523
Fucking hell this. I'm not even a BB player, I'd just grab my Kiev and try to secure DD kills with my tiny 75mm turret :3

Manually controlled secondaries would certainly make goys shell out for a $100 tier X premium Musashi though...
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>>162021225
>after the CV rework is implemented.
I trust the guy who is talking about T10 premiums more than I trust this
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>>162018094
I fucking hate Missouri and all the eager goyim who are excitedly buying into it.

Missouri and Musashi should've been rewards for a CWs campaign, just like in WoT.
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>>162021473
>only $100 for a tier 10 BB
>when a tier 9 costs $145

Would feel more like $250.
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There's no actual Musashi premium, it's a lie to get easy (You)s because of how controversial it is, and it worked.
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>>162021641
He's talking out of his ass, don't get your panties in a twist
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Hindenburg>Des Memes>Zao>Moskva
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>>162018094
>Premium Musashi

FUCK THAT NOISE WHERE IS MOETEL
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>>162021641
its not an issue if you dont play high tiers :^)
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>>162018094
RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE

ONE MORE TIME

ONLY TO SINK AND RISE AGAIN AND AGAIN
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>>162021932
>The Scharnhorst has indeed found her place, but as a battleship. We do not see room for a full heavy curser line for any of the nations in the game, and also not plan any individual ships of this type in the near future.
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>>162021817
But I wasn't actually lying about the premium Ise-class.
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>>162022023
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162019393
its on kancolle, its legit
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>>162022072
And I'm not lying about subs coming to the next test server.
t. STanon
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>>162022001
Hoetel can lick my balls and suck my dick when she wants.
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>>162022148
Rude tbqh.
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>>162019953
shinano was unfinished, it was supposed to have 200 aircraft asides actual ship handling personnel
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>>162019953
>irl design flaws
>in a videogame
??????????????????????
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>>162022220
It's called love
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>>162022127
Fuck off, fake ST. The current ST server version is for testing more Shimakaze nerfs and Gearing buffs.
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>>162022320
And Alabama
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>>162022120
But even there Sushi has worse AA and the same base armor and firepower :^)
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>>162022023
Wait, so there will not be a USN CL line in order to shape the current one into the CA line?
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>>162022446
That's not what they're talking about, they're referring to stuff like the Alaska and B65.
CL/CA split is still just in the future somewhere along with other planned tree expansions.
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>>162022446
There will be, because the USN CLs have already been modelled and are currently awaiting proper game implementation. Low tree CAs haven't been modelled yet and might take a few more months.
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>>162022676
>USN CLs have already been modelled and are currently awaiting proper game implementation.
According to who? The only CL I've seen outside of the current line is Worcester, which is currently sitting at T10. Assuming Cleve gets moved to T8 like I've heard mentioned, that still leaves at least T9 and probably T7 and maybe T6.
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>>162021919
But that's literally backwards, anon.
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>>162021817
>>162021841
It may be a joke and fake, but I'd actually be surprised if WG did NOT implement Musashi the same way as Missouri.
It's just so easy and cheap to do, and most of the playerbase is receiving Missouri happily, fooling themselves:
>"Oh but it's free XP so everyone can get it as long as they save for a year or more!"
>"Oh but it's free XP, that willl stop shitters from jumping straight to high tiers!"
>"Oh but I want THIS ship because muh history/seagul/MERICA so I'll ignore that WG is finally selling premium T9/10's, which they had said multiple times they wouldn't ever do, for ridiculous amounts of money. In a game with already ridiculously inflated prices compared to even WoT"

This shit is straight out of the chinese server, which everyone knows is straight up P2W. These kind of high tier and incredibly expensive "premiums" are going to become the new norm, so Musashi is a very likely choice that makes perfect sense. Expect to see as well a premium freeXP-only Enterprise and maybe a few Fletcher clones.

Now we may never ever get neat CWs rewards like in WoT, since they now know they can get away with selling them instead of actually rewarding clan effort.
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for the FDG:

406's or 420's

how are secondaries on this ship and should I transfer my Bisko captain

is the ship fun/good
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>>162022967
>mfw I JUST bought the combo pack that came with 500 Papa Papa flags
>I can get 1k free xp per game or more easily
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>>162023282
It's not about how easy or how hard it is to get. It's about it being wrong in principle. I got 500k free XP, I could easily get Missouri in a month.
But I won't.
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>>162023215
also for main battery mod 3, is the -13% turret travers speed decrease the turn time or increase it?
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>>162023404
the one with faster reload slows turret
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>>162022967
I'm still holding on to a shred of hope that T10s at least they'll be keeping for CW rewards or that sort of thing.
Who knows, it's possible that the Missouri will do worse than they wanted because at the end of the day people who are willing to grind out 750k XP and spend the money to convert it all for a single ship (as opposed to at least an entire line of ships to T10 like usual) are not going to be a huge set of the playerbase.
People can justify $60 for a T8, but I bet they'd have a harder time trying to convince a significant portion of the playerbase to spend $130, or especially outside of NA where most of the players are located, significantly more ($170 here) for a single T9 premium, especially one that doesn't have the same kind of draw as it would in the US.
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>>162022961
Moskva>Zao=Hindenburg>Des Memes>Minoturd
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Just what I always wanted!

>>162023404
>- speed
>decrease in speed
>Is this faster or slower?
Basic English comprehension my man
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>>162024146
Zao > Moskva > Hindenburg > Des Moines > Minotaur

desu
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>>162024343
Yes, but traverse speed is measured in how long it takes for the turret to turn 180*. A decrease in that would mean the turret turns faster
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>>162024558
Yeah it's stupid, but they never refer to that metric as 'speed'. Didn't they used to simply use rate of traverse (°/s) for that?
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>>162024497
Isn't it ironic that Hindenburg has basically the same fire starting potential as Zao due to the rate of fire?
It trades stealth and maneuverability for AA, armor and AP alpha.
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>>161996482
2v2 (we're a small gen)

Same rules as TSF's 2v2 tourney.

One unicum and one shitter per team only.

Both teams must have replays enabled (there will be lots of accusations when there's a draw).

One battleship and one cruiser only.

Draw = most damage dealt wins.

Use challong for brackets, I can create a Discord server and set it up for you with roles of up to 10 teams and then pass ownership to you.

Each team gets 10 minutes to join after a room is made until they're automatically disqualified.
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>>161998098
>>161996908
Deluded idiots, there's not enough players here to set up a tournament with those teams.
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>>162025395
>replays enabled
how do I do that?
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>>162025395
>One unicum and one shitter per team only.
That requires widely accepted definitions of what/who is a unicum and a shitter along with equal numbers of each.
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>>162025724
Oh good, I can group up with Abru again
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>>162025724
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>>162026078
Yeah and you'll be the shitter (again)
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>>162026110
Purple can div with somebody from blue and blue can div with somebody from purple HOWEVER blue and purple can't div with each other, everyone else can though.
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>>162026421
>abru explodes
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>>162026448
racist
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what do KM cruisers excel at? whats their niche?
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>>162027193
not getting citpenned by CAs

not a joke. thats their thing.
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>>162027270
incredible
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>>162025575
Then there's no point in setting up this thing and benefits no one. 2v2 is a meme and not even a fun one to watch. It's no different than asking "1v1 me kiddo" in a team game where there are multiple ways to win other than farming damage.

Well it will actually benefit in a way some people: plenty of shitpost material.

>>162025575
What we should be doing is internal training in preparation for eventual CW/TB's.
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>>162027457
What's wrong Abrach? Can't come up with an argument to why 2v2 is shit and 7vs7 isn't in a dead general? Please, I'm waiting for the argument.
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>>162026591
He was in a CA. What's your excuse?
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>>162026110
>>162026448
It's not like anyone's ever shit up the thread over how accurate that list is at all.
Are rerolls like Hotel unicums?
Are people who play exclusively low tier unicums?
What happens if not many of them want to play?
What if they're not interested because they prefer playing with each other?
Don't get me wrong, I'd like some inhouse matches and I think they could be fun, but if you want to have a tournament with prizes you need to expect people to get REALLY autistic about it.
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>>162027793
>playing for fun in a competitive environment = autism
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>>162027883
>free stuff given away for winning
>thinking people won't get amazingly autistic about it
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>>162027951
>"""free""" stuff for winning

Dude, Arguments, Lmao!
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>>162028013
What point are you even trying to make?
People already shitpost about meaningless purple points as it is, you seriously don't think a tournament with cash prizes would cause more shitposting?
>it's not fair because X isn't a real unicum while Y is
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>>162028208
>playing for fun with a friend in a competitive environment means you're autistic
>trying your best to win and being rewarded is just you getting free stuff for no reason

What are the odds you are the real autist here?
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>>162028365
>reading comprehension
I wasn't calling the participants autistic for wanting to have fun you moron. You've completely missed the point.
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7v7 in a wowsg tournament ayy lmao

just do 2v2 you asspies
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>>162028780
Why not 3v3?
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>>162028815
not enough players in this general. calm down abrach, it's going to be one unicum per team so you can't bring your artificially unicum buddies with you anyway.
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>>162027727
I relied on my teammate
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>>162028952
>artificially unicum
>there are people out there who think anons won't shit up the thread arguing over who is and isn't a unicum for the purposes of a tournament
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>>162027501
Well done deflecting the issue with a well placed ad hominem, this is some quality shitposting. And I'm not abrach.

As to your question, 2v2 is shit because Ranked, Team Battles and official WG tournaments are 7v7. Modes which are not representative of the real WoWS gameplay played by most, but it is at least closer to it than 2v2. 2v2 excludes CVs and DDs, and completely ignores objective control, air superiority and overall support roles, which are an important part of the actual game. All issues which have been brought up by other posters.
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>>162029126
See >>162026110
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BOTES NA should easily be able to field 4 7-man teams and there are plenty of anons who aren't in the clan
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Look Lunatic, it's your favourite mod

Epic /r9k/ frog memes
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>>162029147
Do you not know what a "tournament" is?Do you not know how many anons there are here? Do you not remember when Abru tried to set up a scrim for /wowsg/ but only 10 players joined?

Take your head out of your fucking ass and start using what's inside your skull, holy shit.
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>>162029162
Yeah, nobody has ever shit up the place arguing over the validity of that list and how correct it is, have they?
Hell, that's even one that another anon just went ahead and changed on his own because he felt like it, I'm sure people won't argue over that.
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>>162029234
you also have to account for people who simply dont want to join the tournament
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>still no argument for why 2v2 is bad other than "bro we have so many players here, we can totally set up 10 teams with 7 players each
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>>162026448
>LunaticRed divs with Anumati according to the colors from this chart, and instantly wins the comp

No thank you
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>>162029407
LunaticRed is a reroll on NA who re-played the IJN CV tech line.

The 2v2 tourney /wowsg/ will be running requires a BB and CA/CL per team.

Try harder, shithead.
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>get new ship
>4 losses in a row
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>>162029470
Half of that entire list should be pink then if you're using that definition of a reroll.
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>>162029565
What?
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>>162029470
>shitter lunatic getting carried by unicum anusmati

I want to see this
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>>162029601
If you define a player and all of their accounts as a reroll because they played any number of games on more than one, then everyone who played in either alpha or beta, or is an ST, or has played on the test server is a reroll, and that includes most of that list.
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>>162029778
>Wave is a "reroll" because he created an account on NA and EU during OBT
>actual rerolls with brand new accounts, replaying the same class and nation again isn't a reroll

>A delusion is a belief that is held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception.
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>>162029778
>or is an ST
isn't that like 8 people from the gook server already?

why are so many gooks ST anyway
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>>162029993
You can send in your application or pay for it, they don't care at all. Why do you think most of the leaks comes from SEA? WG should not let anyone from there be a ST.
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Jake here. This is a hotfix since I detected some mistakes on my metrics.
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>>162030070
>original F22 still at blue level

you had one job you dumb nigger
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>>162029935
I don't give a shit if wave is a reroll frankly, I couldn't care less what you want to define him as.
But if you're going to define people's original accounts as rerolls because they played on another one at any point in time then the classification is meaningless because it covers most of the list.
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>>162019707
It's more that playing high tier CAs is pointless.

I loved CAs in the alpha, just the right combination of agility and firepower.
But since the beta playing CAs has been 'invisfire or get deleted', with a side of 'your barrage does fucking nothing if the CV knows how to play'.
Though WG's changes to CVs have turned that into 'mostly don't even see CVs unless it's one of the good ones so just take sonar, not liek it actually helps counter DDs lol'
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>>162030149
You won't be able to mention more than 2 players on that list with new accounts with high tier ships.
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>>162029778
To be quite honest everyone who played in alpha or CBT really IS a reroll. You had hundreds of games to learn from with no impact on your stats. Obviously you didn't actually reroll but it's delusion to say that having hundreds of games before a stat reset isn't going to affect the way your stats look, not to mention many of you ended up meeting and playing with other players during that time period. Even someone who started playing during OBT is at a huge disadvantage.
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>>162030135
You dumb inbred fucktard. I left that as a comparison to my previous numbers.
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>>162030070
>raptor is the anti-abrach shitposter
no surprises there
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Who's gonna get the Missouri?
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>>162030070
Is pretend-Jakeposting going to be the new shitpost for the next month?
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>>162030207
this
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>>162030229
soon
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So....this was my first Akizuki kill.

gearing proxy detects in smoke just as Im accelerating out, he turns... too late Im doing it.

what a way to start a new boat.
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>Get FDG
>excited
>match 1- 120k damage, no kills, loss
>match 2- 70k damage, no kills, loss
>match 3- 50k damage, no kills, loss
>match 4- 110k damage, no kills, loss
>match 5- 30k damage, no kills, loss

Yea either MM can fuck right off or this is going to be painful

I don't even know if there's a point in progressing any farther if T9/10 is like this
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>>162030207
Okay.
Then just have jake turn everyone pink and then suddenly people like khan are equally valid unicums to everyone else there despite having thousands of games played on a different post-reset account unlike everyone else. At least it's all equal then, isn't it?
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>>162030540
your first mistake was playing tier 9 and 10. you didnt listen to the "seal clubber" shitposters did you?
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Let's just make it a 1v1 tourney for maximum FUN.

You're allowed to bring any class, but you only get to know the name of your opponent, not what ship they're bringing. Participants have to message the tourney leader their choice of ship before each game, and that'l get announced to everyone, at which time, they can equip their ship and spec their captains appropriately.
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>>162030540
>I don't even know if there's a point in progressing any farther if T9/10 is like this
That's all T9/10 is.
Why do you think everyone sticks to the mid tiers?
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Daily reminder that you're a sealclubber shitter if you don't have a solo average tier of 9.5.
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Considering how WG use premium ships to test out ideas, I'm guessing next BB line will have radar.
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>>162030914
RN BBs to have radar? Cool.
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>>162030914
Weren't people already guessing that the bong's 'thing' was going to be radar BBs?
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BE GONE HOLY TRINITY
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>>162030551
Jake SHOULD show which players have had hundreds if not thousands of practice games if we're just thinking about what's fair, especially when it comes down to a system that is supposed to track player skill. Let's say you have two different players and under Jake's system they both have 100 aggregate skill rating, except one of those players has played 1,000 more games of World of Warships that isn't reflected anywhere. Which one of these players is better?
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>>162030962
>>162030978
Are you sure RN BBs are next?
I'm pretty sure WG are masterbating over Russian fantasy blueprints like Project 24 with 3*3 457mm
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>>162030782
This is actually the better idea. If we can't do a real 7v7 tourney, then might as well go all the way and make this a full 1v1 tourney. This should actually tell us something about the skill level of the players here.
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>>162031167
>Which one of these players is better?
Neither is demonstrably better or worse than the other at that point.
You're never going to be able to find a perfect judge of skill from stats, the best you can do is compare stats that give you an incomplete picture.
Just comparing WR is 'fair' in a sense that it only compares a single metric, adding more modifiers to that does nothing but potentially skew the data in ways that don't really give you any better understanding of a player's skill.
At the end of the day if you want to know how good someone is you just have to play with them and judge for yourself.
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>>162031569
>This should actually tell us something about the skill level of the players here.
How? It doesn't tell you how good a player is at playing different classes, how well they work as a team, how well they play around certain mechanics of the game, how well they play over a significant number of games, how they play at different tiers, ect.
All it does is tell you how well they play a certain situation that has nothing to do with anything you'll find in the actual game.
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>>162031785
>It doesn't tell you how good a player is at playing different classes, how well they work as a team, how well they play around certain mechanics of the game, how well they play over a significant number of games, how they play at different tiers, ect.
Who the fuck cares?

A tourney should be about having fun, making laughs, and winning prizes. Nothing wrong with mixing it up with some unpredictability. Not everything has to be based around being the "best" player.
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Is five citadel hits in a match decent yet?
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>>162031785
2v2 does neither of those things,and it's it's hardcapped to 1 BB 1 CA anyway.

So might as well go all the way and do this a full suddendeath deathmatch
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>>162031615
Except if you consider the fact that your average wowsg player does get better over time, there's really no comparison, especially if you consider the fact that for most players there is a kind of hump if you will of really learning the game and figuring out all the mechanics. You can't honestly believe that the player with an extra 1,000 games from cbt is better than the player that started in obt. The cbt player essentially had their entire learning curve erased. I guess you could make an argument that both of those players are at their skill ceiling, but like I said, for the average wowsg player their winrate and all other stats tend to trend at least slightly upward.
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Can people ignore LunaticRed and Mako's shitposting? It's going to be 2v2 because there's not enough players. They're too damn autistic to realize this so please, ignore them.
This is what we have so far, we're going to need 11 teams with two players.
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>>162031986
>This should actually tell us something about the skill level of the players here.
Clearly someone cares enough to think it's about showing the best player here?
Nothing I said indicated that I think it does have to be about finding the best player. It's a 1v1 tournament for fucks sake, obviously it's just for some fun.
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>>162032349
Well, that anon's stupid. If I ever set up a 1v1, it'll be for laughs and to watch people agonize over trying to guess what their opponent will bring.
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>>162032348
Is there rules for the team composition?
Also what kind of times/days are we looking at here? I remember one similar tournament from one of the old generals I used to be in that just didn't have set times because it was easier, you just had to do bracket 1 games before a certain date, bracket 2s before another date, ect. Could work here since we have players with different restrictions and they can just work it out.
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>>162032348
2v2 is shit though.
Literally two cunts just shooting HE at each other for maybe 5 minutes
You honestly think anyone enjoys that shit?
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>>162032349
It'll never be fun. There will always be shitposting, which is why few people want to do this.
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>>162032628
AP is better. Just load it and get the enemy cruiser = you win.

>>162032663
No one's forcing you to join.
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>>162032830
I'm just sayin. Just don't be disappointed when very few join.
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>>162032830
AP explains why Wave's Amagi fired HE for the entirety of the previous tournament doesn't it.
Makes you think...
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>>162032621
On a sunday, 5 PM EST or whatever. It doesn't take more than 1 hour and teams should get disqualified if they don't show up in 10 minutes after a room has been made.
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>>162032953
Proof?
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>>162033186
Just watch the twitch VoD of the final battle.
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>>162033902
Link it
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Fucking racists.
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>>162033925
https://www.twitch tv/tcn534/v/102421975
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>>162032663
This.
I've seen plenty of tournaments in old generals with the same basic idea.
You really need to be prepared for people to just shitpost about everything to do with it. They'll argue over every rule and every result, especially if there's prizes.
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>>162013738
Oh shit, I forgot how fucked up the price on Type 6s were. I'm still sitting on the 100 free ones from whatever event gave them out + signal/camo boxes and PTR rewards
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>>162034309
The most vocal people up for the tournament are also some of the most loud shitposters.
Because
>muh bantz bro lmao
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>>162034550
No.

The most vocal people against the tournament are butthurt fags who can't bring in their third favorite div mate and most of our loud shitposters here who shits on actual unicums.
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>>162032086
yes
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"""""""""""""unicums""""""""""""
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>>162027951
>>thinking people won't get amazingly autistic about it
What does the word even mean at this point ?
It makes as little sense as saying: "People won't get amazingly American about this"
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>hate giveaways because raptor is autistic enough to camp the thread 24/7
>hate comps because muh unicums

What now?
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>>162035597
The solution is to just make any giveaways random by number post.
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>>162035597
you only win if you get dubs

check these
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How do you specifically define a unicum?
Who are the fake unicums?
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>>162035597
Because abrach, khan and chain hates the idea 2v2, you think we all do..?
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Musashi will be t9 for balanse reasons.
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https://streamable.com/mcmq
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>>162030070
>im in yellow
so im average as shit, fug
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>>162036040
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>>162035597
>mfw autistic enough to camp the thread 24/7 AND unicum enough to win any tournament that happens
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>>162036128
>1.2 million damage

doubt.jpg
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Let me just say, I respect all shitters but I don't do politeness

Can our "unicums" stand up against the true unicums?
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>>162036413
>he can't get himself 1.2 million damage!
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>>162036128
USS Training Room
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>>162036617
Obviously. But which bote?
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>>162035380
>"People won't get amazingly American about this"
but this makes perfect sense
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>>162036724
Katori.
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>>162036724
Erie, obviously.
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>Abrach successfully ruined a /wowsg/ tournament for the people, by the people

So much for being unicum.
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>>162037085
This isnt a democracy, it's a republic. The people don't mean shit.
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>>162037085
what did he do?
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>>162037204
>Presenting a false dichotomy
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>>162037206
He wants a 7vs7 so he can bring Khan because if it's a 2v2, he's forced to bring Chain which will upset Khan.

literal autism.
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>>162037538
How do you even know he wants to be in the tournament?
Isn't he a normie who's too busy with irl?
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>>162038273
This den of faggotry is no place for a cute witch. Please leave.
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>>162038212
Lol.. don't you have a doll to blow up and sleep next to, Abrach? "normie" haha.
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>Testing some shit with Fletcher in the training room
>Bring some Eries as points sacrifices
>Wow they take a little while to kill
>I wonder which T1 has the least HP?
>Hermelin: 4500
>One-shots everywhere
Now that's what I call blans
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>open wowsg
>everyone is arguing about some tourney
i dont get it, what are you guys upset about exactly?
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>>162039032
someone wants 2v2 for inadequately explained reasons and someone else doesn't want it for just as inadequately explained reasons
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>>162039032
>mfw there literally is no tourney
It's just someone shitposting.
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>>162039110
Everyone wants a tournament, but we don't want a 7vs7 because there's not enough players.
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Make love not shitposting
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>>162039749
But no one wants a tournament.
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wew this is some quality shitposting.
I can't even do tourneys due to an unreliable schedule on weekends. Same reason why I gave up on WoT tourney golds.
>>162032454
This could work out tho.

Also, tfw smoke saves you three times and allows you to get many neat flags.
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>>162040336
You're not everyone, Abrach.
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>>162040163
>>162040504
>tfw you'll never have a friendship this pure
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tfw divs can't be four people so you can div with your good buddies chain and abrach without having to deny QT his spot
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>>162040163
l-lewd!
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>>162021457
>>watching your DDs skirt a cap but never actually go in
Yeah, let me suicide so we can lose the cap to the enemy later
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>>162042275

Hey man I'm a Slav DD, if I'm capping things have already gone very wrong.
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>>162041987
>Khan left SEA and gifted two Scharnhorsts to div with people

Depressing desu.
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>>162041987
boog we still love you
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>>162042427
didn't he div with them before that?
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>>162036945
>but this makes perfect sense
It doesn't btw I hope your mother and siblings get cancer soon. How do you lik that joke about a condition, eh ?
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>>162042565
No, he gifted it to those two specifically. Nobody knows why, maybe he thought everyone else on /wowsg/ is trash.
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>>162042625
weren't they already diving with him though?
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>>162024558
it removes degrees per second from the turn, making it slower.
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>>162043005
No. He literally paid to div.
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I want anime to go and stay go
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>>162042523
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>>162043294
I'm literally sure he was already divving regularly with them for a while before he gifted a Scharnhorst and a Texas.

I'm literally sure you're full of shit.
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>>162043294
Wew lad.
I gifted them botes like a month after I first started div'ing with them.
And it was because they're just really great people to play with and I wanted to do something nice for people who were good to me.
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>>162041987
I hope Clan Battles happen soon
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>>162043589
>NA Seagal had 10 points
Fuck you WG EU, I'm Out for Justice
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>>162043813
In other words

>I gifted two Scharnhorsts to two players on NA for boosting me
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pls post abrach and chain kissing ty
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>>162043589
How did you grind Hatsu and the t7 gunbote

Shit's killing me.
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>tfw the golden age of wowsg is over
it was a good run though
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>>162043936
Actually it was a Scharn and a Texas. :^)
My stats were going to be totally meaningless no matter what because I'm a reroll, so I'm not sure why I'd bother spending all those shekels on stats when nobody is going to put any value in them, least of all me.
But if you want to keep going on believing that nobody could just want to be nice to some people they really enjoy playing botes with then I can't stop you.
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>>162044023
By having a spare 11pt captain ready for the new DD line.

Hatsu I played like a shitty gunbote with torps. It was actually OK.

Poi I played like a less shitty gunbote with LOTS of torps, but you have to be really picky about when you want to dump 16 torps and when you should just hold back and make do with the 8 torps.

Ducky is worth all of it if you have a 14pt captain and go with DE + AFT. Lights fires like no one's business and the AP deals consistent damage to superstructures, and it shreds DDs at close range.
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>>162044448
As a fellow T10 DD player to another T10 DD player, you played hatsu like a gnenvy with AFT?
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>>162044448
>DE
Really, no CE?
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based weeaboo event
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>>162044552
pretty much. just dont engage other DDs in one on ones unless you have a clear health advantage and can get away with it. Otherwise just play it like a gunbote, torp stuff when you can. Take AFT first, then DE. Assuming your goal is Ducky, you don't need to worry too much about Survival Expert because she has naturally high health (probably to balance out her fucking atrocious speed and humongous turn radius).

All the same rules apply to poi, but she's a little more capable in those one on ones. Only slightly. And she REALLY fucking needs EM.

>>162045119
You could, but assuming again the goal is Ducky, you have a decent invisifire window as is, and although youre gonna be outspotted by CE DDs, youre going to be able to deal way more damage over the course of a match thanks to the fire chance boost from DE. DE + the two fire flags gives you a 9% fire chance, and the sheer volume of shells that ducky puts out makes lighting fire REALLY easy. You just sail around harrasing BBs and even CAs with HE until they light on fire, then chip away at them with fire + AP damage. If they put it out you just continue to chip away at them with AP till DC goes on cool down, then you go back to trying to light them on fire with HE and laugh as you get two going in under 30s.

CE is more useful if you wanna do sneaky torp runs and need to get as close as possible, but ducky doesn't do that. Still, it's troubling when you run into DDs that are running CE and you cant catch up to them to spot them. But the rewards outweigh that drawback imhofma
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>>162045563
>Still, it's troubling when you run into DDs that are running CE and you cant catch up to them to spot them.
You can even deal with this by running with another DD that can scout and catch up to faster CE DDs.
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>buy upgraded Hatsu hull
>loses one gun
>gun boat DD

:D
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>>162045767
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Whoops I accidentally tried to enjoy a cruiser, my mistake WG
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>>162045886
>Fletcher and Yugumo's faces when
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>>162045767
>Buy Akatsuki
>100 m concealment advantage over )))))bote Leningrad
>torpbote DD

That post I made last night describing Akatsuki as a worthy opponent to Leningrad in a gun duel was complete hogswash because I had accidentally compared Akatsuki with BFT and SE to Leningrad without.
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In preparation for shiratsuyu: I will want BFT, LS, SI, AFT, CE right?
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>friendly team flames me for not capping when I'm the only ship (Mogami) left and the enemy team has a full health Roon, a 30k HP NC (in the cap), Shima and a New Orleans, within 15km, trying to kill me

I'm fucking triggered
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>>162040504
>tfw smoke saves you three times
how do you get DDs to keep smoking you? usually they're all just dead or more interested in saving them for themselves
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>>162046856
I dunno. I feel that SE might be taking over from AFT due to the HE nerf, particularly in Shira's case with her awkward gun arrangement. Personally, I'm going to wait until the next PT to try out some builds before committing. Torpedo Acceleration is another skill which I'll be checking out.

>>162047449
No, no: the DDs smoke themselves. That's when you activate hydro.
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>>162047449
i dont really need smoke in Russian DD, i gave it to pushing BB
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>>162045265
I had like 2 ship slots before the event and now i have 8

thanks weeaboos.
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>>162046482
I love raping Akatsuki's tight little pussy in my Blyska.
Just kidding, she's a loose little slut who regularly swallows thick hot 3.5k damage salvos.
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>>162047449
Just div with a cute anon who will give you all of their smoke :3
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Looking for an IJN Captain trainer/money printer. Is the Atago any good?
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>>162048873
No, she's shit.
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>>162048873
I'm a shitter and it still prints out money
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>>162048873
Yes. In fact, she's the gold standard for IJN captain training, and she's only worse for credit printing than Tirpitz and (when she comes out) Missouri.
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>>162048873
I want Atago to train my Captain ;^)
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>>162049190
I want Atago to get her Kai Ni
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If we're getting the Missouri, will we get sister ships of the same class in the future?

I want my AA-spec Maya.
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>>162049585
We already have in the past, like Gneis/Scharn and Bisko/Tirptiz.
Maya would a likely one if only because she'd bring some kind of gimmick which they like to do with premiums.
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>>162047449
>how do you get DDs to keep smoking you?
You communicate in chat.
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>>162049682
>I want my AA Spec Maya
found your gimmick, boyo.
Can't say it'll mean shit until the supposed CV rework that's totally coming soon(tm)
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>>162049682
Yet we still have no tech tree Takao.
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>>162049585
Dresden/Emden
New York/Texas
Omaha/Marblehead/Murmansk
Wickes/Campbeltown
Leander/Perth
Edinburgh/Belfast
Gnevny/Gremyaschy)))))))))))))))))))))))))/Anshan
Benson/Lo Yang (aka: USS Benson)
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>>162049983
Atlanta/Flint
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>>162049983
>Perth
More like the retarded sister of Leander
>>
How much money did you pump into this hobby already?
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>>162050454
I don't want to talk about that.
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>>162050454
Couple hundred. Thinking of going back to Warframe, where I spent a couple hundred already.
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>>162050454
zilch
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>>162040163
Bote love is a beautiful thing.
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>>162050454
nothing

I win shit through contests, Jake's giveaways and tourneys. 510k free XP and 21k doubloons :^).
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>>162050454
Atago
Atlanta
Texas
Arizona
Marblehead
Murmansk
Scharnhorst
Belfast
Warspite
Tirpitz
Fujin
Yubari
Konig Albert
Smith/Tachibana bundle
2x 10 port slot bundles
1/2 off 1 year of premium
Dunkerque

I'll be buying the Graf Spree when she's available and I'm not sure if I want the Lo Yang or not, or the Indiana/Blys/Katori if they come up in next week's shipsmas bundles
>>
Oh man, I didn't know the Bismarck's secondaries would have been so much better than Gneisenau's.

I thought the major difference would be the boosted range, but I completely forgot about the 150mms. Seeing those thick HE shells fly out at relative accuracy to a a DD 10km further feels so very good.

I often need to contain myself not to just rush forward so I can see the secondaries at work.

Fuck, I love secondaries.
>>
>>162050454
10 bucks for a month of premium.
Grinding past T8 takes too long.
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>>162051031
Thank you for keeping the servers free, goyim
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>>162051031
Any buyer's regret for some of those ships?
Which ones do you still play often?
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>>162051476
Not him but I'd say the TX and AZ got powercreeped. They're still decent at their respective tiers, but it's harder with the current MM constantly uptiering T5 and T6 into T7 games. Also the Marblehead is an inferior Murmansk.
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>>162050454
2500 doubloons
Texas bundle
1 week of Premium on sale

At this point I realised that I needed to be careful to avoid being exploited by promotions, so I made a spreadsheet which calculated how I could spend my money for best effect.

Scharnhorst big bundle
Belfast bundle

With the doubloons accumulated from the bundles and achieving Rank 1 once, I was able to buy 20 port slots, Atago and Leningrad when they were respectively on sale.

Additionally, I've received two premiums through playing the game: Katori and Campbeltown.
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>>162051689
I haven't played my Murmansk in a while since tier 5 being uptiered so often. It was my favourite ship :(
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>>162050454
Yearly Premium
Tirpitz
Nikolai :^))))
Perth
Texas
Kamikaze R and Emden though this weren't bought.

Perth is a good bote, people give it more flak than it deserves.
>>
I don't have any intention of keeping Izumo. Should I ignore the unnecessary modules (gun range and extra horsepower)?
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FUCK YEAH 50K FREE EXP on my alt account ;__;
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Post your ports :^)
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>>162052573
>all those filthy sealclubbing botes
Shame on you.
>>
>>162050454
yubari and scharnhorst with 30% discount
that's about 2500 rubles
>>
Has anyone seen any Missouris?
>>
>still win knifefights
>kill battlebotes faster with superior torps than with fires

Akizuki's pretty gud for the flavor of the month but Benson's still better.
>>
>>162052962
Anybody know why know why Missouri did Freddy der GroĂźe?
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>>162050454
black friday 30d prem+5000doubloons and 10 slots
~1500 rubbles
>>
>>162053175
English please?
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>>162053632
I'm gonna keep bumpin' this thread until someone *remembers* seeing Missouri

Can seagalposting replace flamuposting?
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>>161996482
This is a small general so 1v1 or 2v2? What type of restrictions? I wouldn't allow CVs or DDs if we're doing 1v1/2v2 because it would take too long for the it to end. Let it be single elimination but with a loser bracket and the finals can be Bo3 (best of 3).
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>>162050454
Yuubari
Atago
Tirpitz
Scharnhorst
Prinz Eugen
König Albert

Premiums I got for free
Emden
Albany
Diana
Arkansas Beta
Campeltown

Definitely gonna buy Graf Spee because I'm a dirty Wehraboo and this game currently caters to my interests.
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>http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Black
Where is she?
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>>162055559
WHERE IS MY FUCKING SOMERS REEEEEEEEEE
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>>162055559
Ask your gf, she definitely knows how to get Black(^:
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Is EU server any good playerbase wise?
Are there /wowsg/ on EU?
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>>162055810
EU gets 20k-30k on weeknights. No queue time and full matches until the wee hours of the morning. Our clan - HOTERU [HOTEL] - is lively as well.
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>>162050454
I bought the 3pack bundle back during CBT so I got Sims, Yubari, and Gremyashchy.

I've bought Fujin (Regret), Leningrad, BĹ‚yskawica, Anshan (Regret), Lo Yang, Atago, Marblehead (Regret), Atlanta, Indianapolis, Kutuzov, Moltov, Prinz Eugen (Love), Perth, Belfast, Texas, Arizona, Nikolai, Konig Albert, Scharn, Tirpitz, Warspite, Dunkerque, and Saipan (Little regret).

I plan to get Alabama and Graf Spee when they're out and any other premiums that peak my interest though after my few ships that cause buyers remorse I am more careful. Trying not to get clones but I got Prinz because waifu.

Also premium time and some doubloons here and there when I need them. The year for premium for $46 was a godsend, don't have to worry about that until 2018. So a few hundred dollars for sure.
>>
>>162055810
No it's fucking dead and anyone who tells you otherwise is a fucking liar.

During OBT it was
>me
>eric
>luger
>mayhem
>KTKM
>crying phoenix
>mastigos
>2 more guys, I can't remember their names rip

Until March, it was down to only 4 of us.

Now there's a bunch of newfags but no one gives a fuck about them. Funny thing is, before Mayhem quit, he said EU is a joke compared to other servers with worse events and sales. His last words "Fuck EU community managers".
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>>162052520
I could really use that to end my suffering on Hatsuharu for fucks sake i'm at 10k
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>>162055921
>bought Marblehead

Did you not do the MARBLEHEAD event? Apparently photoshops were accepted due to WG's incompetency.

Also what makes you love the PE, compared to the Hipper?
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>>162056102
I don't remember the Marblehead event on NA. I think it was a code handed out at PAX and I couldn't go that year so I missed out.
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>>162055810
It's full of fucking idiots and will give you cancer. Germans are the most cancerous shitters who think they're super fucking pros.
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Who are all these literal whos in Luger's Discord? I swear, they showed up right after OJ got banned.

Can someone PLEASE explain to me who these obnoxious idiots are and where they came from?

>there was a time when /wowsg/ stayed up for 3-4 days and had to be bumped to stay alive every hour
>there was a time when Rapespammer tried his best to kill /wowsg/ for more than 6 months through constant image dumping and false flagging
>there was a time when /vg/ chat didn't have more than 5-6 players during peak hours
>these newfags claim to have "lurked", "I never post" when EVERYONE knows they are newfags

Do we shut it down to preserve what's left of it or do we continue on to see where it'll get us?
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>>162050454
Dunkerque for 20-something and 4.25 worth of doubloons to buy the Campbeltown
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>>162056254
Same can be said for all servers, this game is just full of shitters, period.
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>>162056541
>Wah people are joining the game I play
>Why can't it just whither away as my fellows from the early days gradually move on?
Grow up
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>>162055976
I was there since when the game was launched last year, but i couldn't play semi-actively until March due to GPU issues.
What's this kind of mentality that only people who played during CBT are the legit /wowsg/?
While there has been an insane influx of newfags during the last two months, i think your reasoning is delusional.
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>>162055976
>Mayhem
autistic as fuck, who cares about his opinions?
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>tfw you want BOTES to do well but it won't be possible without our true unicums guiding us
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>>162055976
>tfw even SEAmonkeys are more active on their server
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>>162057120
Hitler made a mistake by forming an alliance with Italy. He should have formed an alliance with Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines instead, who represent the true masters of our planet.
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>>162056840
a lot of RU refugees moved to EU actually before takao n project oil n shiet
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>>162057097
>BOTES
The one from NA or SEA?

I think NA should change their name since it's pretty much dead anyway.


>>162056541
I wish more people would join NA. NA is the true dead server. I don't get why people get so angry and hateful towards newcomers. These are new people playing the same game as you. Give them a chance.
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>>162056840

>What's this kind of mentality that only people who played during CBT are the legit /wowsg/?

It's called autism anon.
Some people call it elitism, but it's just self-made autism in the end.

Communities need new people, otherwise they WILL die.
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>>162057618
One autistic Russian did it, " a lot of RU players" huh?
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>>162057793
There's a Ukranian too. Putin considers him a rightful RU player at least.
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>>162057882
Who the fuck is that?
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>>162057793
not one, "a lot of" relatively to native /wowsg/ population of EU
>>
What would be some good ideas for premium tier 8 IJN BBs?
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>>162057948
>can't name one except that autistic Musashi cunt
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>>162058049
man, this is anonymous board
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>>162058073
>be Russian
>spam Musashi pictures
>reeks of ESL
>be another attention whore pretending to not be one
>"It's an anonmeez board cyka bleat I dun want mention to you names(((, stop talking bout me plss"

Jesus fucking Christ.
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Will they sell Arizona again since it's the 75th anniversary of Pearl Harbor?
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>>162056185
You just had to spell out MARBLEHEAD with the first letter of the usernames of players you sunk. WG accepted screenshots as proof, and word has it they become so lax at checking the screenshots that shoops made it through.
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>>162058149
lol, false flag retard, I know at least three russians in HOTEL, if you can't see anything but this musashi fag that is your problem
open your eyes nigger
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>>162058480
You have to go back.
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>>162048873
I want Atago to train me
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>>162058639
>filename

nice try Ike
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>>162055921
It's pique senpai, not peak.
>>
Anyone know what was in the US patch just now?
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>>162059343
Missouri
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>>162055810
>any good playerbase wise?
Skill: Just like IQ bell curve, some good, some bad.
Players with actual social and leadership skills are extremely rare.

t. EU casual
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>>162057793
>autistic
A meaningless word in Rusiia.
They just tend to be very harsh and practical.
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>>162058480
Stop responding to the Magyar autist already. He's having so much fun right now every time you respond. There's nothing else to do in Hungary with their unemployment levels over there.
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>>162058480
>mastigos
not a russian, he is genetically one though.

who's the third?
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>>162058149
>Spams the autism word in his every post.
>"It's an anonmeez board
Same applies to you, we know who you are.
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>>162059575
Who is spamming the autism word on 4chan?
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>>162059507
>Stop responding to the Magyar autist already.
No.
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>>162059343
German DDs.
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>>162059507
It seems he triggered you when he called you a chink. You need help with your paranoia, Benis?
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>>162059639
Abrudolflincler and maybe one other shitter who thinks he is funny with his witty and
"devastating" insults.
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>>162059709
I'd love to hear how you came to that conclusion, Benis.
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>>162059748
I'd like to hear how you came to the conclusion that I'm Benis.
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>>162059795
Because we know it's you, are you going to go to the Discord and pretend it's not you now?
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>>162059850
>Because we know it's you
Literally not an argument.
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>>162059892
You're so triggered over the fact that somebody called you a chink and that you should go back to the mainland. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>162059972
>30,000 euro
>Projektmanager

Bitte.
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>>162060045
Kann weder Brake noch Eric sein :^)
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>>162060147
I always suspected that the Hungarian never existed, and he was merely a figment of my imagination. I just needed better data for my hypothesis.

I gotta say though, for the first few times, you got me good.
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>>162060147
I can't wait for Graf next year. Even though I don't play CVs. I hope they're fixed by then.
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>>162059709
Who? Autism is Mastigos and Erics favorite buzzword for some reason.
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>>162046856
I have
>BFT
>EM, LS, TAE
>SI
>AFT
on her right now as she only has 14 points. Once I get up to 16, I'll swap TAE for SE.

6.5km for concealment is more than workable, and the arcs on the guns doesn't mean that you have to get super close. In fact, if you are getting 5.7km from a USN DD or VMF DD before you open fire, you are doing something very wrong. You actually want to open up the distance a little bit, as you're not particularly fast, and the closer you get, the more of a disadvantage you are at against USN DDs.
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>>162060364
Same. If nothing else, she's a great collector ship.
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>>162060147
>>162060538

>graf avatarfagging

Ok, it's Luger_"autism"_chan shitposting
>>
>http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/pearl-harbor-2016/
>http://worldofwarships.com/en/content/game/countdown-to-pearl-harbor/
Neat.
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>last enemy BB on 2k HP
>he reverses behind the island 8-9 km off me
>I unload full salvo on him
>all 8 shells somehow miss
>time runs out and his team wins on points
Winner XP for epic achievements when? Also
>german "precision"
no wonder they lost the war
>>
>>162061932
Does NA gets any missions, or do you simply have to log in?
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>>162062337
>this was the faggot that survived
JESUS CHRIST FUCK THIS SHIT, I'M NOT PLAYING RANDOMS EVER AGAIN, I'D RATHER GRIND 750K FREE EXP IN COOP
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>>162062585
FUCK, I'M SO MAD I FORGOT THE IMAGE
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>tfw consistently staying between your 2 BBs and CV and their CV in your Cleveland
>he gets so frustrated he hits me with everything he's got and they just get gunned down because i'm in a fucking Cleveland
>hunt him down and fuck him up
>win with the only other survivors on our team being the two BBs and CV

I finally feel like I did something useful in my fucking Cleveland, it feels gud.
>>
>CVs too scared to sail thanks to the euro event
>all cruisers with AA mod
>thanks wargaming
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>>162062667

>check your profile on this site out of curiosity
>survival rate is 9%
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>>162063986
>9%
it shows 25% for me, you sure you're looking at right number?
I do have 0% in the Nassau, wtf, I need to stop playing this aggressively
>>
>>162064136

Oh shit you're right, I checked the daily number instead of "All".

It's 19%.
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>>162064367
which site are you using cause this is what I see
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>>162064884

Warships today, same as you. It's the number on the far right that's the average for all of your games combined.
>>
Speaking of warships.today, how does it decide which is your key vehicle?
Because I have more battles on Amagi and ARP Kongou, and it still insists my key vehicle is Nagato.
>>
>>162065034
yeah, the red 25% in my screenshot, wtf?
Is there a Nikolas Kuno on US server too?
>>
Is it a good thing to equip 100% exp camo and dragon flags if I want to level up my captain?
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>>162065226

Probably a mix of highest games played and best performance.

>>162065380

You're just being aggressive, anon. It's a good thing.
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>>162065509
Can't remember if xp bonuses stack. I'd advise you to look it up.
>>
Ded game
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>>162065698
I think they do stack.

Though i do wait for like capt xp bonus weekends etc so you get more for your flags.
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>>162066653
i dont have my pastas in here so maybe in about 3 hours

something something poi~
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Good morning /wowsg/!
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>>162062667
You think that's bad?

Check this:
http://wows-numbers.com/player/533743822,Ammiraglio_VB/
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>>162068013

Good morning.
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>>162068013
Trash drawing, look at the eyes lmao
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>>162069541
Look at this post, absolute trash LMAO
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>36 dollaridoos for Missouri

Should I do it?
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>>162068013
Good morning anon
Enjoy your day!
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>>162070778
Thats cheap for a T9 premium which shits out credits.

You also got 2 camos to choose from.

Could be the only one around ever and you get glorious Seagal captain.
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>>162065698
>>162066685
They don't. The only XP bonus that stacks is Papa Papa (stacks with anything that increases ship XP), so don't use any XP booster rarer that PP without mounting PP.

>>162070778
>They got to him first
Let me save you
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>>162073708

rip
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>>162073708
server
>>
What does it take to change the essence of a captain?
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>>162076435
A set amount of dubloons.
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>>162076829
Not palm slaps?
>>
How can we make this thred Hard to Kill?
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The Texas is comfy!
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>>162079036
>Texas
;_;
>>
>Don't own an Arizona
Were any tech-tree USN ships present at Pearl Harbor?
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>>162079606

>>162061932
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>bayern double citadels me from the front 13km away in my cleveland
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>>162079781
>CL
>Bow tanking
You swing your ship 1/2 to throw their aim off
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>>162079951
I turned to avoid the other 6 shells but took two tightly grouped ones as a punishment for daring to dodge.
>>
Why there is no server transfer?
beside obvious hard to code((((( and confusing for new players
>>
>>162080551
Allegedly because when they tried it the russians went around TK on the other servers, really probably because they get more money this way.
>>
Anyone on EU play high tier carriers? I'm going to need a div-mate for the Pearl Harbor missions.
>>
>It's an our team lemmingtrains to one point and hides behind an island peek-a-boo shooting while the enemy team takes points and decimates our team all witnin 7 minutes episode
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:3
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>>162082519
>only 1 (ONE) secondary hit

shit game desu
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>>162082069
>Anyone on EU play high tier carriers?
Kittykami does.
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>>162082310
Ugh, another rerun. Can't we get some new episodes already?
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>>162082069
>EU gets Pearl Harbor missions
>NA, home to Pearl Harbor, gets no missions
What did WG mean by this?
>>
>>162082902
>>
>>162082902
>What did WG mean by this?
Should've won the war)))))))
wait a second ;o
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>>162082902
>The day japs kick started US into superpower
>We don't want to offend americanski -WG
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>>162082651
They're busy shooting planes
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>>161988392
Bismarck's secondaries are way more powerful than being able to fire a single spread of torps every minute or so.
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>>162084295
They're pretty good if you get to kite BB with secondaries
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>>162083616
Huh, how much armor did the 5"/38 mounts on the Iowa-class have? I can't seem to find info on that particular aspect
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>>162001652
Heavy cruisers, armored cruisers and battlecruisers mixed into same line? That's retarded. And N3 would be too slow & too low HP for T10. You'd basically need an enlarged version of N3 that has G3's machinery section.

CVs look right though. So do BBs up to T9.
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Is it normal to have this many weabotes?
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>>162084893
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_5-38_mk12.php

Mark 21 Mod 1: 0.125 in (0.32 cm)
Mark 22 Mod 0: 0.125 in (0.32 cm)
Mark 28 Mod 0: 2.0 in (5.08 cm)
Mark 28 Mod 1: 1.25 in (3.2 cm)
Mark 28 Mod 2: 2.5 in (6.35 cm)
Mark 28 Mod 3: 2.5 in (6.35 cm)
Mark 29 Mod 0: 0.75 in (1.9 cm)
Mark 30 Mod 0: 0.125 in (0.32 cm)
Mark 32 Mod 0: 0.75 in (1.9 cm)
Mark 32 Mod 2: 0.75 in (1.9 cm)
Mark 32 Mod 4: 0.75 in (1.9 cm)
Mark 38 Mod 0: 0.125 in (0.32 cm)

>3.2mm armor
literal sheet metal
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>>162085359
>He only has 6 weeb botes.
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>>162046856
>30s turret traverse

I might be alittle late but holy fuck you NEED Expert Marksmen on poi. The difference it makes is night and day. You dont need CE. It's a luxury unlike EM.
>>
>>162085593
>there are people that don't have all 9 plus the cute flag
>>
>>162082842
No. WoWS only had one season and only a couple of its episodes were good.
>>
>>162061932
>USS Downes
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>>162085359
Missing Takao and Nachi or however you spell em.
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>>162007670
Difference is that the Brits woudln't have been outnumbered by better than 2-1 like the Japs were.

How stupid to you have to be to pick a fight with somebody whose military is twice as big as yours, and try to beat them in a conventional fight?
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>>162087619
When you think the Americans aren't going to be much interested in a long term fight because you saw them as lazy/more interested in making money off everyone else fighting/didn't have the conviction for a total war then it becomes easier to see an outcome where after you blow up their fleet and take all of their pacific holdings they just throw in the towel and work out a peace treaty, just like Russia had done in their last war.
They were never trying to truly defeat them in a total war to the death, they were just too stupid to realize that it's what the war would turn into.
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>>162087619
>It doesn't matter how big their military is if theyre a bunch of weak willed cowards like those Americans are. If we slap them hard enough just once they'll totally back down. We're the superior race

It's pretty easy to fall into this line of thinking. Murricans thought they were saviors of Afghanistan and Iraq from the clutches of radical Islam and dictators like Saddam. The reality kinda turned out to be a little different...
>>
>pshhh, nothing personal tojo
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>>162088750
>personal
>Not personnel

That nigga had one job
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>>162018459
>I would hope a Prem Musashi has the wing 155mm guns
No matter what Musashi has half as many 127mm guns as Yamato. So without the 155mm wing turrets it would just be trash in the secondary department. Along with no matter what having worse AA than Yamato.

My guess is that to make Musashi not completely worse than Yamato it'll get radar, the 155mm will fire HE and the base secondary range will be increased for the 155mm (while 127mm secondaries keep the same base range). But the AA will be shit so get a Des Moines to sail with you.
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>>162087619
It would still not have mattered. The US Navy understood, like no other institution in the world in the 1920s and 1930s, the true might of a mobilized US economy.

The somewhat distant second and third institutions that were looking into this were the RAF and the USAAF.

And even the RAF realized that if the Royal Navy could not keep the supply lins to Britain open, they might just as wel stop trying.
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>>162019953
The reason Shinano sunk had nothing to do with design flaws and everything to do with the fact that it was sent to sea without actually being completed yet. It didn't even have all the watertight hatches for its bulkheads installed.
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>>162061932
>USS West Virginia/Same as Colorado

How come we cant get the modernized WV BB?
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>>162088829
>personnel
>not sempai-desu poi~
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>>162004159
For British DDs, easiest to star at the top where the choices are obvious (T8-10 each have only one possible class to use) and work down from there. So I see it something like this:

T10: Daring
T9: Barfleur (Battle class)
T8: Battleaxe (Weapon class)
T7: Jervis (J class)
T6: Icarus (I class)
T5: Shakespeare (Thornycroft destroyer leader)
T4: Valentine (Admiralty V class destroyer leader)
T3: Murray (Admiralty M class)
T2: Laforey
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>>162089896
Because WG devs are German BB players and don't want Colorado to get much-needed buffs?
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Are all of the German BBs this hardcore? I could get used to this...
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>>162090583
Yeah they're all pretty decent.
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statskun update when?
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>>162090827
Already updated yesterday >>162030070
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>>162090910
I'm not in it, how can I know how I compare to the other baddies?
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>>162090489
They will sell it as a premium like they did with the Texas.
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>>162090127
Two bombs werent enough
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>Musashit
>consistently less well armed than Hotel
>"m-muh better electronics and radar!" that Hotel and every other surviving ship in the fleet received as well
>"m-muh construction improvements!" that nobody has ever gotten any concrete information on
>outright never saw an enemy ship, Hotel at least shot at some escorts before her baBBy captain decided he did everything he could and ran away from torpedoes
>sailed around the pacific being fucking useless and wasting all of the IJN's fuel instead of only being fucking useless like Hotel
>literally the world's most expensive hearse carrying Yamamoto's ashes around
>boatslut is an even bigger whore than Hotel is

Why the fuck do people like her again?

Is it just because her boatslut is brown?
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>>162091120
you didnt actually fall for it, did you?
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>>162091235
...Uh...Cool name?
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>>162091120
That's not statskun m8, it's just someone trying to shitpost.
>>
>>162091304
>>162091403
o-oh
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Oh Bismarck, you take so well care of me.
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>>162091170
So the only way to get USN BBs that aren't trash will be paying real money.

Yep, that's exactly what WG will do.
>>
>>162051476
Marblehead, definitely.
Fujin's a DD so she can handle herself but the Texas and Murmansk aren't as relaxing as they once were.
While I don't regret Atlanta I did buy it too early so my stats in it are shit
>>
>>
>>162093102
You can always just grind to North Carolina, everything after that is smooth sailing.
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>>162094720
Thanks Neo for the info
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>>162094720
Why tho
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>>162090583
>Are all of the German BBs this hardcore?
Yes, btw Bismarck is one of the most balans ships of the line.
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>>162089896
>How come we cant get the modernized WV BB?
Because devs and ST's are currently ejucaluting all over German BB's and DD's
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>>162090583
It only gets even better.
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>>162082519
How did you make it through tier 7-9 of the line without cutting yourself.
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>>162079951
>You swing your ship 1/2 to throw their aim off
My wife's son has grown up by the time a Cleveland completes a turn.
>>
5th skill for Iowa?
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>>162096542
CE
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>>162095857
>>162096034
What's so good about Bismarck? Not doubting, just curious.
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>>162096671
Nothing she really does badly, well armored, decent main battery, decent AA, decent mobility. Importantly she gets a hilariously good main battery and she has sonar too.
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>>162096671
Does everything very well, literally the second best pick for T8 BB.
>>
>>162096671
Imagine a regular T8 BB. Same potential to cause damage as all the others by using her main guns.

Now imagine if you consistently added 30k damage to that main gun damage.

Also imagine if you could spot torps from really far away and spot DDs in their smoke from 5km away.

That's Bisko.
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What is in your opinion, the best Tier VII Battleship?
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Extremely potent
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>>162097581
Gneis
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>>162096862
>>162096995
>>162097174
Sounds great. It'll be a long grind before I get to her, but she sounds worth it.
That said, I'm not that good of a BB player. Can I still make good use of Bismarck? Any tips on how to improve my BB play would be greatly appreciated
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>>162097581

Colorado
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Good goy.
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>>162098208
>Any tips on how to improve my BB play would be greatly appreciated
Same, I need help getting gud with the Nagato
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>>162098226
wrong
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>>162098419

Only one wrong here is you, bucko
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>>162096034
Slut.
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>>162097581
Scharn
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>>162098419
He's right though.

Colorado is a great XP piñata :^)
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>>162097581
Nagato
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>>162050454
0
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>>162098369
>Same, I need help getting gud with the Nagato
I'm still on Nagato too, actually. I can pull pretty good damage some games, but most of the time I feel like I'm out of position and not prioritizing the right targets. It's a shame, since I was really excited to get her and I did fairly well in the Fuso, but there's only so many crossdrops I can eat before I wonder if BBs are for me at all.
>>
>>162098276
>boop
><3

>missouri
>MISSOURI

>oh that dd spooped me
>yeah, spooped me too

So cute
>>
>>162098226
>low HP
>mediocre armor
>>162096584
Thanks, I use the commander on Atlanta, too. It's gonna be fun.
>>
>>162098768
>Nagato
>High HP
>No armor

I'd take the Colly over her desu
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>>162098732
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>>162090583
Yes, they are the most overpowered ships right now
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>>162099207
Colly has no HP AND no armor.

Take Gneis or Scharn if you want those things.
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>>162099207
>high HP
>faster
>better range
>more accurate
>15k more HP
>good secondaries
>better armor in some sections, weakest sections are still equal to Colorado
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Insult to injury
>>
russian cruisers....or american cruisers
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>>162099363

>nips having better armour than anything pre super budget eating carrier fodder BBs
>>
>>162100612
Always Point B tovarish
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>>162100618
>armour
>u
>>
>>162100618
Nagato had a shitload of armor added to it after its rebuild in the 30's.

So yes.
>>
>>162100756

>the superior spelling is wrong
>>
>>162100931

Nice try BaBBy, why don't you stick to guarding your CVs while they win the battle for you?
>>
>>162101136
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>
>>162101136
>CVnts
>winning battles for anyone in WoWs
kek
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>>162101274

t. BB
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Who else /Missourisoon/ here?
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>>162101375
t. CV
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>>162101418
I wouldn't qualify that as soon.
And not me, I want to see what else they add first.
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>>162101538

Thanks for the exp friend ;)
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>>162101948
Np, thanks for standing still for my torps :^)
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>>162102612

>ship without a C in its designation think it's relevant
>>
>>162102902
I appreciate it when people think that way. It makes my role that much easier.
>>
>>162103270

You're about 20 years too late, BaBBy
>>
unkill this thread
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>>162104969
I got your back fampai
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here is a ship
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SPEE

SOON
>>
Did WW2 significantly hit oil depots?
I mean, since these ships all burn tons of oil for steam, which sounds incredibly inefficient.
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>>162105632
Don't shit yourself, wehraboo.
>>
wt join [botes] US

IGN DrEbolaChan
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>>162105764
Fuck you, she's gonna be fun but shitty
>>
>>162105704

I know the IJN literally ran out of Oil by the end, which is pretty crazy to think about.
>>
>>162105904
It's full at the moment, and there's already a line of people waiting to get in.
Pretty much just have to wait for either people to leave, WG to open up the numbers to more than 30, or clans to come out of CBT and another /wowsg/ clan to be made.
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THE TIRPITZ IS FOR FUCKING MANBRAWLING YOU SLICK-CUNTED COCKLORD

WHY ARE YOU AT 23 KM AWAY
>>
>>162106106
>[ship] is for brawling

shitter detected
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>>162106212

>I have to stay 20KM away from any enemy at all times, because as soon as I'm spotted I'll die
>>
How is Akatsuki compared to Fubuki?
Want to know if I keep grinding for Kirishima on Fubu or upgrade.
>>
>>162105704
i would assume so, considering nearly everything in the war effort involved oil in some way shape or form from making bombs to lubing guns.

theres also this shit too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_Campaign_of_World_War_II
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>>162106296
>you're either 20km away or youre 2km away

shitter

detected
>>
>>162106414

You're either sniping or brawling, fuccboi.

No fence shitters allowed.
>>
>>162101418
Possibly me but undecided.
>>
When does the EU server update?
>>
>>162106212
>brawl in New Memexico
>sink shit
>brawl in Nagato
>sink shit even harder
>brawl in Atago
>sink shit the hardest; sometimes die

Brawling is fun you faggot.
>>
>>162106827
In about six hours.
>>
>>162106827
Tommorow in the morning.
>>
>>162106854
Brawling has its time and its place. If you think your ship's purpose in life is to brawl, you're a shitter and a retard.
>>
>>162098732
Literally the qtest div.
>>
>>162106854
>sense weakness
>capitalize on it

Easier to take advantage of an opening if you're not 20km away.
>>
>>162098732
>>162107164
kill yourselves
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>>162107229
>He doesn't have bros to div with
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>>162107229
>anon angry that he's not having fun with a cute div of friends
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>>162106657
Brawling BBs that can't hit shit at medium range are shit (see Gneisenau) and useless if your team is a retarded bunch of shitters who don't understand map control or faggots who cannot stay alive as soon as they get close to the enemy.

Any BB with less than 8 guns is garbage, the only good strategy with Gnasal is to get in secondary range, but it's a suicidal tactic for shitlords and you'd be better off with a ship actually capable of hitting something with the main guns.
Garbage health pool and a fucking meme armor that gets lit on fire as soon as it's touched add insult to injury.
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>>162090489
>WG devs are German BB players
If you think Germans BBs are good, just wait for BALANS BBs.
>>
>>162107359
>>162107306
"""""""""""unicums"""""""""""
>>
>>162107704
>>162107704
>>162107704
>>162107704
New THread
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>>162107659
Who was talking about unicums?
>>
>>162107306
>>162107359
i do have bros to div with, yall are just faggots.
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>>162106990
>>162107015

Thanks.
>>
>>162107526
I am fucking mad about Gneisenau too, the thing is just frustrating to play and plain worse than Colorado in pretty much every situation.
Please, who ever told that Gneisenau was good must've been joking; it's the first ship i can't stand in the whole game.
I averaged 81k damage over 100 matches in my Colorado, Gneisenau struggles to reach 72k and it's just unfun to play.
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>>162091235
>boatslut is an even bigger whore than Hotel is
>>
>>162101418
I'd get it but I'm not regrinding free XP if a premium I want goes up. I could use a premium battle boat that isn't Arkansas but I'm not that desperate for one.

bring back kitakami sama pls
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