/dsg/ - Demon/Dark Souls General

>>161871763
>souls
>hard
It's just a meme, noone legitimately thinks this series is hard or challenging. People just seem to confuse the lack of hand holding as "hard"

Honestly I just wish posts like this and the other one saying DaS3 is the easiest game would go away. They're all easy.

>>161871871
Wow man you're so skilled. Thats impressive my dude, really. #Wow #Whoa

>>161871720
This picture is about launch PvP meta, before patches, right?
What even was the dominant PvP meta in 3 back then?

gwyndolin~

AAAAAAAAAA WHY ARE ULTRA WEAPON IN 1 SO FUCKED UP

WHY CAN'T I HAVE HYPERARMOR, A GS R2 ADDING BETWEEN 20-25 POISE WOULD BE COMPLETELY FAIR

WHY DID I THINK USING DRAGONFORM AND THE DRAGON UGS WITHOUT THE WOLF RING WAS OKAY, THESE STUIPD PAINTING GUARDIANS TAKE ME OUT OF MY NUKE ATTACKS WITH THROWING KNIVES

WHY ARE THESE THINGS SO SLOW AND SHORT

>>161872070
FUGS and ultras having insane damage before they were patched. Other weapons that can't be found unless farmed like CSS would've been the meta anyway.

>>161871979
:D

>>161872154
>BW FUGS
UNF
but I don't think it was the meta given the prevalence of unnerfed caestus parry

>>161872070
Pre-international fugs
Post-international darksword

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Post more shield WA niggas

>instant WA glitch/tootsiepop tech finally makes GS and UGS viable
>redditors want it nerfed
come on

>>161872343
the only thing I hate about this is how obvious it is with a UGS, people just never onehand them

stomp should just be removed and replaced with a slightly more balanced uppercut

I have a question to those of you who invade, why do you invade? Why do you do the awful things you do?

>>161872318
Well. The question was before patches and international got the most recent patch of the nip version.

>>161872437
It's hilarious.

>>161872406
can't we name this after actual food or something?

Testing the WK Halberd WA glitch out at SL36 +4, crux invasions. Eastern Iron Shield

Wish me luck, lads.

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>>161872406
>finally makes GS viable

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>>161872437
I'm a challenge to hosts and half of the time I win and reap the rewards.
But in actuality, if this was a anime/show I would be the jobber.

>>161872437
because I personally do dried finger runs since I enjoy being invaded, but all the invaders get sucked into ganks instead because of how the priority system works, so I take it out on the gankers by becoming an invader myself

>>161872568
I don't think you will have enough stam to make use of that WA

>>161872437

Scrubs need to know their place. I just wish it was as easy to get fan mail on PC as it is on PS4 (which I don't have one).

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>>161872343
probably my new favorite gimmick combat style

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>>161872406
>finally makes GS
They weren't viable?

>>161872581
>gs w-was always viable meme
fuck off

kindly requesting FUGS wa shield webms

please tell me its viable

>>161872625

I've got 16 END which from my testing appears to be enough to completely waste my full 10 ATT FP bar, so I think I'm good as far as using it goes. The question is how effective it'll actually be in invasions. I've got 4 (2) ashen estus on me.

>>161872717
Greatswords are literally top tier in the game after the poise patch. And they were always decent before the patch.

>>161872406
More than that, we finally get moves close enough in speed to a jab to counter the passive/reactive shit plaguing every souls games' pvp. Seriously, it's too fucking easy to iframe through shit, Testaroli tech needs to stay.

>>161872437
>>161872595
>>161872602
>>161872657

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/5gfynx/invaders_of_dark_souls_why_do_you_invade/

>>161872730
If you get the timing down, it's extremely viable.

>>161872771
>And they were always decent before the patch.

L O L
O
L

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>>161872717
>decent before the patch
>post poise patch makes them completely fucking turbo boosted

>>161872120
You should have had 1 innate point of poise if your armor had none, and heavy weapons should have added 20 during attack frames. This would have fit in with the poisebreaks that are already in place. But yeah, you're expected to not be naked when you use ultras.

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>>161872602
This desu

Even if From does patch this, can you honestly say that there probably wont be a new bug that shows up? I mean, this WA shield stuff seems so simple that it cant have been something newly created. People probably just didnt find it until now. Its gone unfixed until now. From removes tumble buffing twice now and it still exists.
Theyre incompetent, and eventually will stip caring about patching stuff lile this. I doubt this stuff will get fixed very quickly anyways, they dont have enough other stuff to fix to make their patch for it seem significant.

In Dark Souls 2, how should I spend my start points at high level? I'm in the mid 100s and have no idea what to do with my points but feel like I need to keep leveling because of the stupid soul memory shit.

Already soft capped plus some in str dex vig vit adp. No points in atn int fth

>>161872702
>webm could've been done without using it
>basically no FP
l m a o

>>161872819
The thread is against you, maybe you should realize you are actually retarded.
Sure it gives UGS one more gimmick to help, but GS never needed. What GS even would benefit form instant R2 follow up from the WA glitch?

>>161872824
>>161872771
>these shitters literally lose to GS
>calls them OP/top tier
what a joke

>>161872961
I don't, but I use GS. They are pretty good. Try it out when you get tired of your sabre.

>>161872913
that webm was made to show that it has hyper armor even with no FP dumdum

>>161872936
>thread against me
>literally one (1) poster same fagging as 2 people
lmao

"From nerfed invaders!" Cry more (sorry the other invader thread on the front page got me salty). You want to pvp? You're good at duels? It means nothing. Duels are the same move sets over and over again. It's spacing and understanding how to counter a move set. Rarely is it true "player versus player". It's 500 people all playing a similar way with 15 different weapons. It's really just weapon versus weapon. It's just casual relaxing fun. Try fighting a person who has the ability to call friends. Try slinking around the shadows as you set an ambush so deadly that you'll leave people wondering which of the three things that happened is the one that killed them. Anything can happen in invasions. No two experiences are the same.

>>161872771
>top tier
I agree that they're viable. Hell, they're really fucking good, but they are still too slow to be top tier. They're still just below estoc/crossbow or carthus.

>>161872936
Nah, he's right. Hollowslayer was the only one anyone ever used, and that's because it's an outlier in terms of super armour cooldown/ reset.
Claymore's a joke, no one in the history of the world has ever used the Bastard Sword, and people who asked about the viability of the Executioner's Greatsword were universally advised to just go with something else.

>>161872961
They're exaggerating but they aren't wrong. I think calling them decent pre-patch is actually a strech, at best you could say they were retard killers that at least outpreformed non-astora UGSs. Post patch UGS are in-line with top tier weapons, not because GS are simply OP, but because when used properly they actively counter the things that make most cancerous weapons actually cancerous. I'm neither of the people you're quoting, but they're really good. Using TPGS and swapping to GFS whenever you need to fight another GS user is super comfy.

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>>161873048
>calling out samefag of all things
>still think GS aren't viable until this glitch 'discovery'
You're stubborn and stupid.

Can someone explain me the Bloodlust AR glitch?

Did the FC stop or what?

>>161873125
Clay > HS
buffable, more 2h AR, more reach
HS is just better at catching people who try rolling around you while twohanding, but both can stop people from doing that while onehanded, so it's not a meaningful advantage

>>161873294
t.bad who loses to GSs
How does anyone lose to a GS?

>>161873389
By not using a GFS

>>161873193
>Post patch UGS
I meant to say GS here

>>161873324
It's on pause.

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>>161873484
You don't "need" GFS to beat GS, I just personally use it as an alternative to my TPGS since GS v GS matchups are literal dick measuring contests as each player either competes to see who can make their R2 longer or who can spam beams the best

>>161873671
>shorter GS beats longer GS in a spacing contest
But how

>>161873671
I remember when you posted that webm even you were surprised you the latency helped you.
Don't try to boast your lucky kills now fag.

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>>161873125
Claymore is the best buffable gs, moonlight gs was trash until they kept patching it up, pontiff's sword was one of the better int weps, homotwin sword being fun and viable with it's 1 FP WA abuse and hollowslayer always have been top because of how ridiculously fast the HA starts up. After the patch, most GS are able to do what they were meant for and boosting the weapons that have been usable to compete with meta (yet still somewhat behind)
>>161873389
>How does anyone lose to a GS?
I see them used in FCs, invasions and have used it myself so it's 100% for sure that people have use for gs before the patch. They had nice damage and HA that smaller weapons lacked yet started too slow on some occasions with exceptions and other GS had their own gimmick that made the slow moveset doable.

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So, idk. Like I said, brought it to SL36 invasions, +4 heavy infusion.

On the one hand it works, on the other hand idk if it's really any better than just regular R1 R1'ing people, as you can see. But I did it and won an invasion with it, so there's that I suppose. Entire invasion lasted a bit over 6 minutes, used it a bunch then, it's certainly interesting to catch people with and I'm still getting used to it.

Let me know your thoughts. Still not sure how useful it is in all honesty.

>people legitimately believe GS was viable pre-patch
What general did I walk in?

>>161873745
You can see his sword poking out the back of my left lung if you look closely

I think onyx might only have the same reach as the clay, every other greatsword has its reach ordered by weight. Some people claim the hollowslayer (8.5) has the clay's reach, but if it is an exception to the trend, then it's the only one.

On his screen I probably attacked ever so slightly later.

>>161873756
I'm not, I was pointing out how retarded the GS v GS matchup was

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>>161872730
Not sure how viable it is, but the fact that it goes straight into the "shielded" stance and into it's attack makes it seem like it would be fantastic.

Also I'm going to call it Shake N Bake until someone finds me a better name because it's fast, it's easy, and it's unexpectedly good.

>>161873864
literally no damage

>>161873986
It's AMAZING for dealing with turtles. It melts through their stamina ESPECIALLY at lower levels. It's not supposed to be your primary attack, only as a wake up/catch them running/basically whenever the fuck they leave leave themselves open. Also because of how fast it comes out and the fact you get hyper armor, it's very good for dealing with passive CCS shitters.

>>161873979
>Shake N Bake
cringe
More like Block N Cock

>>161874112
Name fits

>>161874090
I'd rather use anything else.
Try with the BKG or Gundyr's

>>161873979
I love that animation. Cut them with the blade? Fuck no I'm going to paddle them into the ground!

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>>161873864
>>161873986

Here's another one from the same invasion. Seems like if you get it off fully it's roughly equivalent to 2 R1's.

But I mean hey, instant HA at least.

>>161874181
Give me a few minutes to render out a webm for you for the BKG. Gundyr's has no effect on the charge up.

>These people defending this obviously game breaking WA exploit because muh depth
It needs to be removed.

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Thank you for your patience. PCFC will now resume at HW pass: dsg

>>161874181

Doesn't work with gundyr's (or any charge for that matter, too bad would have been cool with insta-explosions on GF spear).

Works with the ass end of the BK Glaive WA though, I'm going to bed after testing the WK halberd with those 2 webms, I'll test how effective it is with the BK Glaive tomorrow.

The good news is, it seems just as effective without any FP. I'll have to go over my recording and check the numbers but it seems like you can just do it as much as you like even without FP for the same damage.

>>161874368
I'd like seeing it removed in exchange for stomp getting buffed, it has no reason to be this shitty and GS shouldn't require you to use a shield.

>>161874368
we dindu nuthin we just playing the game

>>161874273
pls shakenbake
>>161874423
Already tested every other halberd, it has no effect. It seems that if the WA has 2 separate animations that it cancels the first and goes right into the second one so "smooth" WA don't do anything new.

So how do you perform the tootsie pop glitch i keep seeing?

>>161874595
Using a WA shield, hold your shield up for any amount of time (as long as the shield block frames start), then press L2 + R2 at almost exactly the same time, but L2 needs to happen like 1 frame earlier.

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>>161874368
I don't care about depth, faggot, I care about sending people flying on a regular basis.

>>161874496

I literally just tested it and the BK Glaive absolutely works with the WA shield glitch, goes straight into the R2 of the L2 R2 basically and comes out instantly with no windup.

>>161874368
Hello re᠎᠎ddit m᠎᠎od

>>161874496
Definitely works with spin sweep WA, I tested.

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>>161874739
>>161874836
Oh shit you're right. Ignore my last post, I did testing on those when I wasn't as good at it. I'll continue doing testing on weapons again and I'll redo those.

New information: EVERY GLAIVE'S WA COMES OUT SUPER FUCKING FAST

>>161874181
BKG for you

>>161874913
Why the hell are people complaining about this? Trading with fuck huge weapons is already stupid and you can still see the wind up.

>>161874913
Nigga that's BKGS
BKG is the halberd.

>>161875057
Oh my lord I don't know letters anymore. Give me a moment

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>unironically calling it the shake n bake

>>161875093

It works with the BK glaive, like I said it goes directly into the R2 of the L2 R2 and comes out pretty much instantly. Even better, it's spammable if you're good enough with the inputs.

It's almost half past midnight right now and I've got work tomorrow so I'm going to fucking bed, but I'll do some BK Glaive tests at SL36 +4 (+2) tomorrow, hopefully they turn out better than the WK Halberd which seemed kinda lacklaster for how much FP/Stamina it requires.

Any Xbros out there that can help me transfer some items around

>>161875219
Just ignore him, he's like a kiddy in a candy store, he'll go away eventually

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>>161875057
There we are.

>>161875219
>Doesn't like the name
>doesn't offer a new one
wew lad

>>161875302
It most certainly does come out faster

Maria sucks

>>161875517
back to your containment thread

>>161875336
Maybe tomorrow; I don't play during this hour, just shitpost, and I'm just now going to bed.

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>>161875219
>literally no reason to call it ""shake n bake""
>named it unironically
That other anon with block n cock made it sound better tbvqh

Can I kill as many bosses as I want to get as much estus and shit as I want for a 'twink' or does the game acknowledge progression as well as SL

>>161873979
With this glitch, we now almost have the DS2 version of the Fume UGS. Too bad it doesn't come with auto block and can't bounce smaller weapons.

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>>161875492
>Suggests godawful alternative
>Doesn't just use tootsiepop

>>161875660
Give it a new name and I'll call it that then. Block n cock only works with the FUGS

>>161875754
I haven't seen toostie pop used. And in your/other anon's own words, it literally has no reason to be called that.
I called it ShakeNBake because:
1. Easy to do
2. Very fast to make
3. Surprisingly good

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>>161875839
>overreacting again that people don't like your shitty cooking style, webm spamming, or shitty name

Have they worked on weapon balance yet since the poise changes? I had to delete my characters to avoid softban (apparently having low-SL invaders is cheating) so I'm waiting until there isn't a retardedly broken meta to start playing again.

>>161872437
I don't care why they do it. I just love killing them and hope they will continue.

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>>161875905
>Saying I'm open to new suggestions
>explain why I called it that
>Posting webms for people that ask is spamming

wew lad, that's too much. Here's your (you)

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Why the fuck are we even debating on what name to use on a glitch? A glitch that would likely soon be patched before it becomes relevant? Is it just that Aerthas kid forcing this?

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>>161876024
Maybe if you post more webms of yourself cheating I'll turn the other cheek

>>161875905
>>161876120
(you)

>>161872602
Funny, invaders ganking me when I run through solo is the reason I co-op with others and gank invaders.

>>161876120
>forcing this
Nigger I am just making webms for people that ask what happens with "x" weapon. What the fuck do you want from me?

>>161876137
Not only can I not hack since I don't have CE installed, but CE doesn't even work in the newest version of windows.

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>>161876146
It's time for you to re-evaluate your own self worth than be concerned about a video game ""tech"" and naming it like it's your own personal discovery.

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>>161876120
He heard about it and he's going full autist mode about it, and now he's attentionwhoring credit for it and the name of it

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Alright fags, I hereby name the shield WA cancel from the Profaned: Firefly.

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>>161876120
>patching glitches
>from

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>>161876248
>mfw using CE in Win10 latest update
>it doesn't work
>"I don't have CE installed"

>>161876321

That's a really gay name no one but you will use because you're a gigantic faggot, but that aside I'm gonna have a lot of fun testing out the profaned GS with that shit at low level invasions.

this general is starting to reek like the others that just won't die.

>>161876272
>being able to identify someone based on the armor they wear

Wow it's almost like you are looking for something to complain about.

>>161876381
If you've had windows installed for longer than like 3 months, the new anniversary edition doesn't let the pointers work anymore and it just crashes your game.

>>161876372
>last patch fixed a glitch
lol?

>>161876435
>waaaah nobody like my cool names

>>161876372

From somehow is like a laser guided homing missile when it comes to removing anything fun in the game.

Remember the crow quills infinite fall glitch? Remember when hosts actually had to 1v1 vilhelm?

Yeah, how long did that last, asshole? Exactly. Compare that to how long it took them to nerf caestus recovery frames or the """"nerf"""" to curved swords, both of which are still fucking cancer and everyone hates them but From ain't gonna stop that shit ever.

>invading at lvl 20 with a shitton estus more than hosts and their phantoms
>get messages every 20 minutes about what a fag I am and that that was their last ember so now they can't play with their friend
This is what I needed

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>>161876447
>spamming webms while rambling on about THE SHAKE N BAKE DUDE THE SHAKE N BAKE
>looking
lol ok kid

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>>161876372
>doubting from on removing fun glitches

>>161876435
Profaned WA shield cancel is called Firefly and there is nothing you can do about it.
Have fun using Firefly at low levels f᠎᠎a᠎᠎m a l᠎a᠎m. Careful with the stam though.

Oh stop it victor. We know it's you shitposting in the thread.

>>161876595
Yep, the historic says they might do it even before the DLC2.
Oh well, better use it before it's patched.

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>>161876605
>shitty special snowflake name that is unlikable
Get out of here Aerthas

>>161876580

How do I get messages on PC? We don't have a system like consoles where butthurt fags can just PM you fan mail whenever they want.

Do I need to make my profile all public and hope people post in my comment section on steam or what?

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Seriously
>SHAKE N BAKE
>>161876703
>Oh stop it victor.
None of us here are named victor

>try out a Pyro build in DS3
>have to learn to aim spells
>finite resources unless you get a kill to refill Estus

>go back to try quality build
>infinite resources
>no need to aim anything
>just swing and swing and swing

Man, I really do feel bad for spellcasters in this game.

>>161876725
Have fun not using Firefly then

>>161876580
I do the opposite.
Co-op at sl20 with all estus
Drop embers and soul of great champions for hosts
Praise the sun over the corpses of invaders
Hope we meet and have a good fight sometime.

>>161876758
Would you believe that my friend loves that gif.

And I never have to post my name. You'll always know it's me by my armor. So why should I care? I'll help people in the thread and there is nothing you can do about it.

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>>161876758

>>161872406
>finally makes GS viable
I sometimes forget how unironically shit some of the people in these threads are.

>>161876784
If you want to be an easy frag, sure thing m9

Is Gwyn the best DS1 boss to get summoned for at SL80?
I don't want to farm bugs for sunlight medals

Reposting in the new bread.

So playing DS3 as a fairly quality build melee only (started as deprived).

Now that I'm getting close to the end of the first game playthrough, I am thinking of changing to a sorcerer, but now I realize we have LIMITED respecs. Ugh.

Wondering how viable magic is overall, especially regarding the FP system. Will a simple weapon be good enough for general recovery through a level? I realize I'll probably need some FP estus allocated in order to take on bosses with full blast, or for pvp. I'm just worried about the need to split between HP and FP, and extremely limited recovery.

Anyway, planning to use a sword as my sidearm and for magic-resistant things, so I'm not totally fucked.

Currently soul level 85 so my mage build would be:
26 Vigor (was 30)
18 Attunement (was 10)
40 Endurance (was 40)
10 Vitality (was 10)
10 Strength (was 24)
10 Dexterity (was 20)
40 Intelligence (was 10)
10 Faith (was 10)
10 Luck (was 10)

Eventually I plan to, after maxing Int to soft-cap of 60, make my Dexterity 40 in order to max spellcasting speed (and spare a ring slot I currently plan for the Sage ring). Then some more Vigor and Attunement, and maybe some Strength to have a better weapon as a sidearm.

Also, any thoughts on a max upgraded Storm Ruler as a greatsword sidearm for a mage? Seems legit, 0 stat requirements. Otherwise, planning on Longsword or something similar.

>>161877098
you level dex or use sage ring, not both

and you need much more than 18 attunement

>>161877249
I plan to level Dexterity later.
After I keep leveling Attunement until it's probably 40 or something.

Does that solve the problem? I guess I could drop Endurance down to 30 or something so I could put those 10 points into Attunement, or however much to hit the next spell slot.

>>161876730
Usually they either add you on steam or send you salty named group invites. Shit like group invite from GitGud.

how do you do this wa glitch?

>>161877736

L1 with WA shield, then hit L2 + R2 at the same time but L2 like 1 frame earlier

>>161877846
Oh shit, that's amazing! That should be a standard thing, not a glitch.

Shit, it's easier for me to activate that glitch than it is to fucking kick or do a leap attack. Fucking hell man, seriously.

>>161877978
Yeah it's piss easy and probably going to be patched out.

Are there no xbros out there

>play as scrublord mlgs mage at sl120
>invade outside the pontiff
>gank squad
>seed
>silver Knights still alive
>use hidden body
>dumbass host and phantoms foolishly charge at me
>mass panic when they realize the Knights are not targeting me
>one by one I pick them off
>use mlgs on one fag that uses the anti-magic miracle

Love the hatemail they sent me.

>>161877249
>>161877413

Ok, so playing around with the planner, I figure 40 Attunement and 18 Endurance. That still gives some good extra Endurance and should hit a solid Attunement point.

Out of curiosity, is there any benefit to equipping more than one copy of the same spell? Is that even possible? What do I do with these slots if I maybe don't use them and just got Attunement for FP?

>>161878282
Go 30 ATT, 24 end and put the rest into INT.

Can you defend mechanically speaking, a level-up hub?

In a real RPG, the process is automatic(Final Fantasy, Baldur's Gate), based on a build that required commitment, or a character that had pre-build abilities or jobs.

In Dark Souls, there are no builds. Builds are self-imposed meta, but the player has to return to a bonfire to level up, to make the game more dangerous. Because you need your souls to levels up.

If you're already at a "safe spot"(bonfire), why do you need to take the extra step and waste your time for another loading screen, when you've already accomplished the gameplay goal of reaching a bonfire with all of your souls?

It's wasteful padding.

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>>161878652
You are correct. However, nostalgia and pandering sells games, so every game other than DaS1 needs to have a level up waifu like muh Demon's Souls.

>>161878215
Post mail or it didn't happen

Is there anything like Wolnir's Sword for Int or Pyro builds? As in, a weapon that scales off a caster stat for pure physical damage.

>>161878775

I think a good compromise would be returning to a hub to repair broken weapons/upgrading estus/buying new items.

At least in Demon's Souls the game encouraged you to return to the nexus so you can put away your unwanted items with Stockpile Thomas

Guys serious question i wanna cosplay as Pontiff Sullyvahn but idk what helmet looks the most similar to his . i have scholar robes loincloth and Golden bracelets

> playing DS2
> trying out faith build because why not
> up to lost sinner or 3 sentinels bosses
> best weapons are still a fucking handaxe or that flame sword you can find in the forest of giants
Where the do I find a half-decent weapon? I'm tired of using the same little bitch weapon, I've had this shit or weapons as strong as it since early game. Isn't there a way to get some good faith swords or something in this game?

>>161879018

Your best bet would be getting a heide lance, heide spear, or heide sword.

You can get the heide spear after the ruin sentinels, but if you don't want to do that, you can farm Heide Knights in Heide's Tower for a sword drop.

Or, you can kill Old Dragonslayer and transpose his soul for the Dragonslayer Spear.

Other options are the Defender GS(at the very end of the game) and Thorned GS(2/3s through the game)

>>161879010
Lorian's Crown. Also go for the Ordained Trousers, since he wears something similar.

>>161879314
But lorian doesnt cover his whole face but ill try it out

What's a good SL to Dorkmoon

>>161879494
Edit your characters face so its pulled all the way up under lorians mask

>>161879517
None

Farm silver knights for ears

>>161879494
None of the crowns do. Just make your character grey, smoosh his face in, and add some swirly tattoos over it.

>>161878215
Post salt, you queer

>>161878931
Not that I remember. The opposite exists, I think, FLGS fire damage scales with str/dex

>>161879494
>>161879767
And don't forget the coif hair

"we're at the waterlink shrine"
Huh?
"With the two dogs"
Lmao

>>161879838
>>161878903
Give me 30 mins.
I'm not home right now.

>>161878398

Ok, thanks. I guess I still have 4 respecs for this first game cycle which is fairly well progressed even if I regret it.

>>161880115
The what hair?

>>161878775
Don't you dare look down on muh level up waifu!
Either of them.

So what really are the best pyromancies for a ds1 twink? I had some nice duels with what I'm pretty sure was a gravelord, but it seems like my only options against decent players are fire surge (just to keep them away) and backstabs, since black flame is actually pretty trash without cast speed. Is a double fire surge stack the way to go? Should I go for the battle axe instead of the reinforced club?

>>161880184
You can make the hair look like the coif he wears, long and dark gray.
In case you're asking what a coif is, it's the "hood" of the chainmail. Google is your friend

>>161872717
>Me dont agree with yer statement, hence it must be considered a "meme" from now on
Heh

>>161880416
Great Combustion for pure damage, Black Flame for turtles.

Friend unironically calling the zweihander zoohander

>>161880556
Never encountered a turtle while twinking, I guess I'll hold on to it.

>>161878282
past 30 att you get more fp than you can refill with a flask

>>161872797
>Ippiki pasta has 7 upvotes

>>161871720
Opinions on the crystal sage staff? Are there any pieces of must have equipment if i use it? Aside from the two sorc rings and candlestick of course.

What weapon compliments a pure sorc build best?

Can i have some tips/guides for pure sorc pvp as well?

>>161880416
You can sneeze on them and kill them does it matter? Just keep a magic or lightning weapon for the occasional countertwink, they are almost always minmaxed against fire
>>161880787
Friend unironically sucking dix. As our main man and CENTRE PILLAR of the community, AG to the S said, it's ZZU-AI-HANDER

What's the optimal amount of armor poise for halberds nowadays? I want to make a Leo Lucerne build because the Pickaxe is just too short and silly looking for me, and I like the R1 L1 R1 combo.

>>161878775
>be inna /dsg/ after Dark Souls release
>WAAAAAAAAAA MUH MAIDEN IN BLACK
>WAAAAAAAAAA NO COOL WEAPONS LIKE THE STORM RULER/DBS
>WAAAAAAAAAA MUH DES

And that's why you get nostalgiabait games like DS3. I don't blame the devs, I blame the audience that jerks over the old shit.

Holy shit twin axes are good

pc fc high wall
pass dsg

What's the official noob uniform in DaS3? Fallen Knight set is a given, but what weapon and offhand? Still Dark Sword? Any shield in particular?

>>161881279
DS3 is nostalgia bait because Bandai Namco uses social media to decide what to tell From Software to code. All the community whining about DS2 being different resulted in Bandai freaking out and forcing From Software to make Dark Souls 1 again.

That's why poise changes and soul memory was implemented, because of people complaining twinks online.

>>161881405
Carthus curved sword and blestus (caestus with blessed infusion)

I dont get it, I played demons souls a ton, I played dark souls straight until dark souls 2 came out, I played bloodborne for months, I played dark souls 2 all the way till 3 released and after playing through once the thought of playing more or making another character just makes me want to vomit in my mouth. Why don't I have the itch? I can still pick up any of the others and play through it but something about 3 just turns me off. Anyone else have this problem?

So which are the best weapons to tootsie pop with and how long do you think it'll take patch it out alongside miracle duping

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post fashion souls, pls

>>161881707
I have this exact same problem. DaS3 got boring really fast for me, but I still play DaS and DeS a bunch. DaS3 just felt so bland and linear compared to the other games.

>want to make 27/40/30 hollow u&o build
>U&o locked behind 90% of game
Ughhh

>>161881941
Agreed, but 3 has the best pacing, level design and PvP balance in the series

Why is 1h bandit knife so satisfying in every game it's been in?

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>>161881913
Not bad, although the leggings are kind of out of place.
R8 lads

>>161881990
Is this a bait post?

>>161882084
1,2 and 6 are great, 3, 4 and 5 are "everyone wears that" tier

>>161882054
Because bleed every 3-4 hits and each swing takes 3% stamina

>>161881850
Any ugs and gs, spin to win halberd and gotthards atm. Spiked mace is pretty good to tootsie pop with as well.

I hope it stays but patch will probably be next week

>>161882131
No, and 3 is definitely not my favorite in the series. It's immaculately designed (at least up through Irythill and Dragon Land) but plays it really safe.

>>161882171
I was going for the typical dickass thief and noble paladin look with 3 and 5. I don't know what you mean for 4, I don't think I've ever seen anyone wear the hat with those robes.

>>161882054
>Vendrick outfitted his army with Bandit Knives,Hand Axes and Estocs
That man had God-tier taste. Further proof that he was a Chosen Undead from an earlier cycle.

>>161882305
>>161882131
>>161881990
>>161881941

Dark Souls 3 is what happens when a company replaces its entire development staff between games and is under lockdown from its publisher to not cause any controversy with its next game and to retain fans as much as possible.

From Software of 2014-2016 was a totally different company than From Software of 2010-2014. And apparently most of the DS2 devs are fired now during the restructuring.

>>161882295
why would you use with a gs?

>>161881707
>problem
It's a blessing. Take this opportunity to break free

>>161882694
Don't forget the Cyan knights, with tower shields and claymores. The weakest would be the Royal Soldiers using flamberges.

>>161882750
Uh, so what about the game created between 2012 and 2015? I don't even understand why 2014 is the cutoff, is that when Sony signed the exclusive contract with them? The Souls games are split between two publishers, one in 2009 and 2015; and one for the rest.

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>>161881913

>>161882945
Work on Bloodborne began pretty much immediately after work on the DS1 DLC was done, it wasn't shat out in one year.

>>161879018
>faith
>in ds2
lmao

all damage spells were nerfed into the ground and sacred oath/ slb are endgame

>>161883045
2012, like I said.

It's been 8 years since the last good souls game

>>161882945
Fatlus helped publish Demon's Souls.

>>161883101
>2009 was 8 years ago

>>161883143
I thought I was missing one. They mostly did localization and distribution after the game was done though afaik. But yeah that's three pubs for sure.

>>161882987
8/8 sliders, m8

>>161882358
6 is the most unique for sure despite its simplicity

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What is under the mask? I don't see any eyes.

how much dex to oneshot people with +6 quills at sl60?

If you get killed by an NPC, they should disappear from the game. Like if Petrus of Thorolund kills you, then he leaves, along with his humanity drop.

Since the player can keep coming back to life, it's not fair for the NPC

>>161882945
The cutoff has nothing to do with Sony, it's Kadokawa's acquisition. They got ~100 new devs then and started firing old team members.

Dark Souls 3 was started with the new team members around 2014. Prior to that the devs were mostly the same ones from the Bandai contract era.

I don't know about Demon's Souls team members, but it close enough that they probably are the same people who did DS1 too.

From Software's staff had a few major changes:

1. 2005, they went almost bankrupt and couldn't dev for PS3, their international publisher dropped them (Agetec). Until Sega / Ubisoft started bullying them for X360 titles
2. 2009: Hired new team members following Chromehounds/AC4/ACFA success, got rid of most of the old PS2 era staff and designers. Bandai Namco picked up the souls series and AC, funding the the transition
3. 2014: Kadokawa acquisition, Miyazaki placed as president, shitton of devs hired, most of the PS3 team fired.

>>161883596
it's not a mask anymore
seriously, they have fused with the armor

>>161880868
>>161878398

Thanks! Already respecced, with 30 ATT, and 24 END. Well, 25 End, 30 ATT, and 27 VIG because I like round numbers. That gives me 42 INT which will be raised to 60, after which I raise DEX as high as I can get it naturally within SL range. Then I'll fill out the other relevant stats.

Not sure I like having to deal with this FP shit, but we'll see. I really love the Farron Flashsword spell as a backup. Get a powerful swing attack for cheap FP. In the end I might just go back to my stupid quality build, but hopefully this will be fun. Time to put down my sign and assist in some boss kills, for experience.

>>161883842
Also 2005 was when Miyazaki was promoted from Programmer to 'Director', 2009 was when he got to create his first personal project (instead of being added onto Project Force) and 2014 is when he became president.

Miyazaki is a dipshit coder who doesn't know how to make good gameplay/game design, but is REALLY good at corporate politics and managing the atmosphere in games.

>>161883143
Fatlus confirmed yet again for best dev.

>>161884290
>publish
>dev

>>161884334
I'm sorry.

>>161884290
>>161884334
>>161884382

Publishers have so much control over how a game is developed though. They don't affect details, but they can reject games that are too hard, too easy, or certain content/missions. From Software has ALWAYS relied heavily on its publishers for funding and support.

>>161884457
and we can't forget that publishers are the ones who approve the dev team and the concepts before its put into development

>>161884457
They also have control over the deadline, which has been the biggest setback to the greatness of dark souls

>>161884457
That's a good point. They basically have the devs by the balls, if they think their decision is better for any reason, even if the dev have a really really good reason to object.

This is why anything Bethesda has touched since and including Oblivion is such bland shit, but people just fucking gobble it up and praise it as wonderful anyway. Fuck Bethesda. No, seriously.

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>maximum edge red invades an impromptu fc
>keeps trying to gesture buff Firelink GS with CFA
>runs away to heal while nobody else does
>kills a purple while teleporting around a mile away from him
>points down

>>161879018

I find that by the time you get anything cool the game is basically over.

>>161884631
>>161884603
>>161884516

Bandai is the most fucked up Dev that way

They said they would only approve a new armored core game if people DEMANDED IT ON TWITTER AND FACEBOOK for fucks sake.

And Bandai basically started publishing for From Software because they were competing with their Gundam games.

Sony is the only good publisher that From Soft has ever had.

Just starting a DaS3 run, going in blind but are there traps to avoid? Do I have to deal with adaptability shit again?

>>161885016
play the game fucking fag get out of here

>>161884730
What did you expect, he's an invader. Did you think he'd get all honorabru and fight in the fc with the 30% penalty? Don't host embered, jackass
Only I can't understand why he'd gesturebuff with cfa

>>161885016
If you just start, go for a general quality build, they seem to have the most and strongest general options, plus you can get a good feel for the game. More stamina will be great for you overall, as will more health. Straight swords are fucking amazing, I find the Lothric Knight Sword is one of the best and you can get it fairly early on. I started as a deprived, but just go with Knight unless you absolutely want to be able to have some versatility in respec options like for magic or pyromancy or miracles (in which case probably deprived). You get the general Knight armor late enough in the game that it is a genuine pain to get that far without it, and it truly is one of the best overall balanced armor sets you can find for its weight requirements (and it looks nice as well). Seriously, it's fucking awesome. Also, you start with a 100 phys block shield and the as-usual amazing longsword, which could help you out early.

As far as I know, Attunement is only for FP (which you only really need to care about as a spellcaster) or spell slots (same deal). If you really need two or three spell slots for some reason, minimal extra investment can get you there.

>>161879018
>>161884932

>by the time you get anything cool the game is basically over

Heide Knight Spear
Greatsword
Pursuer's Ultra Greatsword
Drangleic Sword
Lightning
Halberd
Estoc
Rapier
Great Heavy Soul Arrow
Magic Weapon
Dragon Tooth
Combustion
Pyromancy Flame
Lingering Flame
Homing Soul Arrow
Gargoyle Bident
Dragonrider Halberd / Twinblade
Warped Sword
Arced Sword

All of these can be obtained before the Lost sinner.


This isn't even a complete list, this is just what I remember off the top of my head

>>161885532
Estoc, Warped Sword, Halberd, Drangleic Sword, PUG, Heide Knight Spear confirmed for greatness.

As for the spells, Great Heavy Soul Arrow is your bread and butter heavy damage for forever.

>>161885532
What's special/fun about hks/gb?

So when does the DLC get good, because so far it's just been bullshit like 8 wolves or warriors zerging you while you can't see shit and one shotting you.

>>161885668
It doesn't.

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>>161872406
playing GS unlocked is amazing vs multiple people during invasions

>>161885650
HKS is great for faith/strength builds, and is just a generally good weapon.
Never used the Gargoyle Bident myself, to be honest. I'm not the guy who made the list, but I feel I should defend the HKS at least.

>>161885532
Caestus
Large Club
Twinblade
Bluemoon Greatsword
Mirrah Greatsword
Greataxe (for style points)
Uchigatana
Morning Star
Heavenly Thunder
Scythe
Old Knight Halberd
Bastard Sword
Enchanted Falchion


Oh hey even more cool stuff found before lost sinner. And I'm still not even counting item drops.

>>161885743
>it's fun because it's good for some stat allocation
I'm not convinced. I remember heide lance was pretty fun on my first playthrough, even in a completely unoptimized build. Stunlocking most of pve with that strong attack. I remember ghammers being fun, not because they had good str scaling but because of pancaking

>>161885650
>>161885743

Gargoyle Bident is pretty great, I think it has the widest spear hitbox and has the highest spear counter damage.

There's also the motherfucking Dragonslayer spear too

>>161885997
Confirming Bastard Sword, Caestus, Large Club, Mirrah Greatsword, Morning Star, and Uchigatana for cool stuff.

Is the pcfc still on?

>>161886064
>Because people never allocate stats in certain ways.

You are literally retarded. The Heide Knight Spear, like most weapons, has a certain s

>>161886105
>>161885997
>>161885743
>>161885624
>>161885532

To be honest, I think DS2 had the most number of badass weapons early on, they were just hidden really well and unable to be upgraded due to lack of materials (not enough twinkling/dragon bone for +5 until mid game).

>>161886153
... a certain scaling tied to stats, which people allocate as they level. Some people like to level their Faith stat for spells, but also want a melee weapon as backup. Now that I think about it though, wasn't the HKS more of a Faith main and Strength/Dex equally mediocre scaling? I can't remember. Maybe it was a Dex primary.

Point being, it's good for Faith with physical backup.

>>161886153
I love certain s

it's much better than uncertain s

>>161885740
>Flamberge
>Slutty pants
You are ok.

What is official /dsg/ discord?

>>161886208

More specifically, the upgrades were very limited. You would get them as you progress, but until you get to the point where you can farm them, you basically have to pick one and stay with it and ONLY upgrade it, to have a competitive upgrade level.

Which is why, as with all souls games, it's helpful to play around with a weapon in comparison to other non-upgraded weapons to know if the MOVESET is to your liking, as well as its range. After that, figuring out its damage based on upgrades is a bit of a guessing game, but mostly its initial scaling will reveal it for the most part, with few exceptions.

>>161886153
Wew lad. I'm retarded because I judge a weapon's funness and coolness by its moveset rather than damage? I'm just not a minmaxer

>>161886262

See >>161886219 for the continued post. Sorry about that.

>>161886369
> I'm retarded because I judge a weapon's funness and coolness by its moveset rather than damage?
>Made absolutely no commentary whatsoever related to its moveset.

Yes, you are literally retarded.

>>161886424
But I did, you blind faggot. Unless you mean that you didn't. In which case, that's exactly what I'm asking here >>161885650. And you respond with numbers and damages. >>161886090 gave an actual answer

>>161886219
Don't forget that elemental resistance is really low in early game

Early game heide knight spear +6 at 23/23:
198 physical
128 lightning with only 20/20 dex/faith.
That's about 219 damage after defenses.

And it will scale up to 259/156 at +10 40/40, which is about 309 damage.

By comparison, Winged spear +6 would only do 260 physical AR (~200 damage) at 40 dex and leave you no room for miracles or spells.

On top of that Winged Spear only scales to 324 AR (~265 damage) at +10 and max usage stats.

So Heide Knight Spear is at all points one of the strongest early games spears as long as you invest some points in faith, which you want to do anyway so you can get some healing to make up for limited early game estus uses.

>>161886583
I gave no numbers. You are literally retarded.
Also, you only discussed the movesets of other weapons. You never touched the moveset of the Heide Knight Spear. What problem do you have with its moveset? Its moveset is fine.

>>161872406
how does it work?

>>161886856
That's what I'm asking. Does it have anything special to differentiate it from other spears other than "the faith scaling is a relatively big number"?

>>161886856
>>161886845
HKS needs at least 25 dex, but damage would be about the same if you moved 2 points from faith over to dex.

>>161887002
So you need a special snowflake moveset for any weapon you find useful or good? Some weapons are just fine with a standard moveset. Some standard movesets are AMAZING. Some standard movesets are crap. Some special snowflake movesets are amazing. Some special snowflake movets are DOG SHIT.

You can't seem to qualify what exactly you DO NOT LIKE about the Heide Knight Spear. Spears overall have a fair moveset. If you get a spear with a standard moveset with much better damage, you get a much better weapon.

Remember you're trying to kill stuff. Bring their number down to 0, while keeping yours intact. Damage does, in fact, matter to some degree.

Unless you have an actual problem with its moveset, fuck off. You don't know shit.

>>161871720
>people still can't understand that the point of this picture is broken glitches most of which got patched later in game's lifetime and ds3's one is white hair 1hko talisman

>>161887002
If you're running a faith build, there is literally no better faith weapon until you get access to the boltstones. It also scales with 2 stats, so it stays relevant for longer than other weapons that cap their damage once you max to 40 / 60 in one stat, like most spears.

Also dex scaling is a lot lower than faith scaling for the same letter, so any point put into faith does more damage than any point put into STR/DEX for the same scaling value

It's just a good fuckin' spear that lets you use miracles very early on without sacrificing any damage. It's the best of both worlds

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>>161884730
>points down

>>161884730
*sniff*
ye i ban eem, i ban eem

>>161885532
And all of them are boring as shit.
The only fun DS2 weapons are locked behind the DLCs, with the only truly fun weapon (bone fist) locked behind the last fucking one of them and forces you to reach halfway point in it.

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>>161887195
B-but anon, you're just talking about stats and numbers. That has no relevance to the game! It's not as if... people playing the game... level up and... invest into stats... which matter for the weapons they use... NO!

Am I kawaii uguuu?

>>161887168
When did I say I have a problem the moveset? I asked if it had anything special. You needed to sperg this much to say it has a standard moveset. A proper response you could have given from the beginning is "no, but it makes a good backup for clerics". Which again is arguable because of the high dex needed.
I personally think standard spears are bland
As long as a weapon does damage and isn't so slow and short that it relies on trading (read: moveset more important than damage) you can 0 anyone's bar while keeping yours intact

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>>161887412
>And all of them are boring as shit.
>Clearly hasn't played with even half of them.

>>161887195
Comparing weapons at C scaling and 40 in each stat

C Scaling Strength: 140 * .35 = 49 + (Base - 60)

C Scaling Dex: 140 * .25 = 35 + (Base - 60)

C Scaling Fth: 140 * 35 = (49 +Base) * (0.7)

C Scaling Fth +lightning infused: 140 * .40 = (56+base) * (0.7)

so you can really see how C scaling in faith is WAY better than C scaling in dex, you basically double your scaling damage after infusion

>>161887493
I just said it was great for a certain kind of build. Not just good, but great. You were the one to sperg out needing some "special snowflake" shit to justify it. Fuck right off.

>>161887412
>Bone fist is the only 'truly fun' weapon

You need help

>>161887528
Your list is full of generic weapons most of which doesn't even have unique attacks. What's the point of arced sword, again? Garbage like bident or drangleic sword? All cool DS2 weapons are either endgame or very close to it. Not like it has much of cool things to begin with though.

>>161887573
whoops, that's Base - 120 for the main weapons. 60 is starting enemy defense, 90-120 is what most enemies have (130 for DLC)

>>161887623
No, i just have standards.

>>161887615
That's cool, bruh. And ccs is great for a quality build. BUT ITS NOT FUN. Being a special snowflake isn't the point. At least ccs looks fucking good.

>>161887623
>>161887412

While Bone Fist is truly quite fun, I wouldn't insist that it is the ONLY truly fun weapon. I agree, he does need help.

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>>161887641
Your argument is that the ONLY thing that makes a weapon fun or worth using is some crazy weird moveset, it almost sounds like you don't enjoy playing dark souls at all.

I bet you're a guy who PvPs against someone with a claymore, and you get all butthurt because he's just using a "generic" weapon that shouldn't even be that strong

You'd hate a 6-bladed flaming chainsaw if it didn't have some magical acrobatic moveset to it

>>161887641
I'm not the one who made the list. I'm the one who jumped in to confirm the list in part with the weapons I have played and enjoyed myself.

senpai

>>161887641
I'm the one who made the list and it sounds like you just literally don't enjoy Dark Souls at all. You just tolerate it when you have a gimmicky moveset.

You're that asshole who played halo using only the sword and if you couldn't get the sword you would ragequit because it was the 'only fun weapon' because it wasn't a gun

>>161887758
>the ONLY thing that makes a weapon fun or worth using is some crazy weird moveset
You were asked about cool weapons. You gave a list of generic shit. I'm sorry that i don't enjoy using a myriad of reskins. This is something only DS2 fans can cope with given the amount of reskins and reused movesets in that game.
>I bet
Your assumptions are adorable, but completely baseless. No need to become this defensive when someone laughs about how bad the early game DS2 arsenal is.

>>161887914
You probably submit your comments via custom fax machine because computers are too generic for you, because the only thing that makes a machine cool is the noises it makes and nothing else

so alt, so cool, so contrarian

>>161887851
>just literally don't enjoy Dark Souls at all
Oh no, i do enjoy good souls games. Or bloodborne. All good dark souls games give you a good amount of fairly unique (at least by standards of good souls games) early game options. DS1 has gravelord sword which has both unique r2s and toxic going on for it, great scythe, gargoyle tail axe with its fun r2, claymore with its unique moveset for a greatsword class, etc. DS3 gives you ability to make boss weapons after 3 bosses and opens up the first DLC for pillaging before you even start with a cathedral of the deep. It's impossible to look at the list of early DS2 equipment without laugh, it's that fucking bad in comparison. Even most of the boss weapons lack a single unique move or gimmick going on for them. Like, the fuck arced sword even exists? The fuck bident even does in the game and why is it a boss weapon?
>>161888030
You are positively autistic and your posts are painful to read.

>>161888030
>If I assume that he's a hipster contrarian, I can refute his argument without actually addressing the matter at hand
GENIUS
>>161888237
>tailaxe fun r2s
Did those change anything other than the animation? Always seemed retarded to me, especially since it bends before you actually swing it

>>161888385
>Did those change anything other than the animation
The animation itself is unique for the weapon class and is much better than all other axe r2s with the exception of golem axe 1hr2.

>>161888769
Different/unique isn't synonymous to good. The partizan is an example of a good unique weapon

>Survive a death trade with invader by like 3 health
>point down
pssssh... nothin personel kiddo

>>161888878
Axes in DS1 mostly lack good R2. Tail axe is a notable exception because r2 hits quite hard, strikes horizontally in 1h instead of an overhead smash and lack the typical dumb "miss" animation axes had in DS1. On top of that axe increases your resistances making it a really solid weapon at least for pve, especially if you're going to blighttown.

>>161888237
>Proves that he's a special snowflake faggot.

Ok.

>>161889019
I love the old axe R1's, yeah you'd tard out if you missed but if you got in there it was full chop city with great damage.

>>161889019
>lack the miss animation
Hey, that's pretty good

>>161889068
>can't put a single counter argument
>continues shitposting instead
Are all DS2 fans this dumb.

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Redpill me on the shield WA thing. Nobody mentioning how to do it.

>>161889129
>Still thinks that just because I disagree with his objectively wrong idiocy that I'm specifically a DS2 fan.

Sure.

>>161889129
Stupid people are more likely to be loud and opinionated

>>161889229
>>161889181
>>161889129

The final word on this is that he thinks that unique movesets are the only thing that makes weapons good, and thinks that all DS2 weapons are shit in early game because they aren't unique movesets.

It's a complete taste-based opinion that he's trying to use to justify calling DS2 a boring game.

It's not even worth arguing against that, he'll continue hiding behind his opinion as if it's objective fact about what makes a game good/bad.

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whats up memer's

i aint seen you fags in a hot minute, no idea what the ~meta~ is anymore

is the friede's scythe / onyx blade worth building around? what are the good pyromancies? are sorceries still cucked?

y'all still do the fightclubs? SL 120 still The Meta?

>cool tech gets discovered in DeS
>never gets patched
>cool tech gets discovered in DaS
>never gets patched
>cool tech gets discovered in DaS 2
>gets fixed as soon as they can
>cool tech gets discovered in DaS 3
>gets fixed as soon as they can and will likely happen again

Sequels were a mistake

>>161889138
with a WA shield hold block and slowly walk forward then press l2/r2 at the same time
it works best for me pressing l2 milliseconds before r2
i don't think the glitch is too useful and i think people are overreacting calling for nerfs. it's mostly useless

>>161889447
Yes
Black flame, serpent, surge are the best.
No, but you need to be an asshole to use them
Yes, but you're banned
Yes

>>161889353
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet and a spear with any other scaling is still stabstabstabstab
>>161889482
>defending binoboosting
In ds1 keeping in toggling is good because they forgot to remove infinite combos. The rest should be removed. Now, the ToD/CQ skips? Inexcusable to remove them

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>>161889641
> sorceries
>you need to be an asshole to use them

you best be splainin on this one anon

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DLC2 when? ded gaem

>prince lothric
>her
My friend is stupid sometimes

>>161889747
The best sorcery weapon got nerfed. Now the best way to play sorc in duels is with soulmass/dart/flashsword spam, 1 which is like swinging a SS mostly and the other two which are very annoying to dodge and force everyone not to just go in your face

>>161889946
Souls is dead, it will only continue on in more spiritual successors and the community

>>161889946
Hopefully not for at least half a year to give time to properly develop. Chances are 2 months from now because from wants to be done with it
>>161889973
>her (male)

>>161887184
I thought it was supposed to refer to whatever POSSIBLY broken, but ultimately the min-maxing and/or gimmicks flocked to by most meta shitters.

Fallen knight + dark sword isn't right for DS3 though. Thats more like early-game OP exploit, like DaS1 Drake Sword.

>>161890000

So what's the best sorcery weapon now? What got nerfed?

>>161890307
MLGS, though 1/2 handing it is a big tell
Tinder

Carrying people through the game that equip cool armor and fat roll

... :(

>>161890597
>Cool armor and heaviest UGS possible.
>Fatroll.

Remember you can use the Black Crystal.

>>161890182
They've been doing it all game "the cripple and his little sister" are the twins

"waterlink shrine with the dogs"is water reserve

Didact of the deeps is deacons

Dragonslayer ammo is armour

Ok guys, which generation game resulted in the best generals?

Demon's Souls?
Dark Souls?
Dark Souls 2?
Dark Souls 3?

My vote is for: They're all cancer.

>>161890690
Spot on, fucking Gundyrs, yhorms greatshield and greatsword(ugs)

>>161890849
Bloodborne

>>spend 2 days working on DC3 and updating the dlc
>> shitty laptop has been running it, but suddenly framerate issues
>> framerates too shitty for online message
godamnit the game isnt the same without jolly cooperation.

>>161890849
DeS had the best generals, fantastic before NA release when we were all playing the asian region version or discussing worldwide release

DaS had decent generals until PC release

DaS2 generals were shit right off the bat with (understandable) incessant whining about ADP, no permanent orbs, Soul Memory, etc. Still some sweet corn in that shitpile though.

DaS3 generals are complete shit, we even have our own Luci2.0 with his faggoty webms.

BB generals were so good they got their own fairly active general splitoff because these generals became so shit.

>>161890849
Probably Demon's Souls, because it was before PC Souls was a thing and no one had prior knowledge of anything so it felt fresh.

Actually, was L*ci already around back then? The archives only reach as far as the middle of DS1 PC release. If yes then you're right, they're all cancer

>>161890960
>shitty laptop

Perhaps we may have identified the source of your troubles, anon.

>>161891016
>DaS2 generals were shit right off the bat
I remember how on release everything magic related was banned from any fc
man people in this thread really were bitches

>>161891016
>>161890849

This reminds me a lot of what happened to /acg/. It was really good until the X360 games came out, which was okay... and then dark souls came out and the generals went to shit

>>161891048
This is it man. all i can do now is look for ways to turn the graphics down

>>161876148
>invaders
>invaderS
>ganking
>pretending as if your ass was't trying to gank and you wound up tagteamed

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>>161876148
>solo host getting invaded enough to justify whining about it
>solo host getting invaded in DaS3 at all

>>161890849
Early /bbg/ was the only good thing that came out from this garbage community in last 3 years.

>when buffed with WA, firelink greatsword on 40STR/10/10INT/FAI has almost 600 split AR
not that bad for a STR greatsword option

Why is it taking so long to invade at SL30

Am I too high level for Crux woods?

guys i'm starting to get real bad anxiety thinking about what'll happen when this game finally dies
there'll be no more Souls games after this for awhile
i have no idea what'll i'll do, this game and community is my life basically

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>>161891991
Only japs and chinks are playing right now.
Still did like 15 invades on high wall.

>>161892045
So I should wait with invades? 'Twinking' my char, moving on to get as many estus bones and ring of favor

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>>161889482
yeah anon, really wish they never bothered to patch their games

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>>161892010

pick up magic the gathering if you like fantasy knights and eldritch spooky shits