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old sour memes
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We'll always be friends, won't we, Gobbla?
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S Q U I G S
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>forest fire extravaganza soon
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Reposting from last thread

>>161745630

Is it possible to stay Christian and win as the wrc? Tips on how to manage that?
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>>161771751
You can stay Christian and win. It'll mean suffering some PO problems, though, since you'll want to keep churches at a lower level, meaning less religious influence in areas that need it, like any area with a wonder that gives a lot of Roman Pagan influence. You'll also want walls basically everywhere and fight defensively against the Huns. They'll run out of arrows eventually.
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January: Nothing
February: Old World Edition + Bretonnia
March: Some shitty LL pack probably
April: Boris Toddbringer
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>>161772294
>bordeleaux subfaction

i like how everyone except empire will get a subfaction. get fucked karl fagganz
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>>161772458
Boris Toddbringer is the Empire subfaction.
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>>161772151
>More complex sieges
CA have shown that they have been listening to some complaints, especially around DLC, so that might happen, but I can't see it being higher priority than other things they have to put in for the next game. They would have to redo most of the siege maps, at least, unless they left the lower tier towns as one wall sieges and then made new ones for the capitals and high level cities only. They would have to change their AI again to accomodate those changes, too.
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>>161771751
>>161771943
disregard churches, build theatres and coliseums and just have the legions purge anyone who thinks their emperor isn't being christian enough. The fucking emperor decides who's christian and who isn't.
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>>161772586

not gonna lie that be fucking lame. he's already in game, empire will get sloppy seconds for a sub faction instead of something cool like playable averland with marius, yanno a REAL lord from TT
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>>161772760

Just release proper modding tools and modders will do it for them.
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>>161773175
[muffled GW shrieking]
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>>161772989
No it isn't. A playable Middheim has been requested by tons of people since the beginning.
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Vlad Legendary Campaign is quite fun.

Easy as fuck, but fun.

Also they got THE BEST voice actor for him.
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>>161772294

>playable Mousillon

Fucking finally get Black/Yellow color scheme. Praise Sigmar.
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Would people want a legendary lord DLC with Boris, playable as Middenheim and some UIric units? Who else could be shoved in there and with what units?
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>>161770863
>Satsuma and Tsu "allies" killing each other
As expected of dishonorable pro-imperialist scum
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>>161773325
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>>161773323

screencap this hombre

he'll stay a reskinned empire general in terms of skill tree, and get some boring campaign effect like franz, and no unique units. thats assuming he actually gets put in proper
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>>161772760
No I understand like, I get the feeling their main goal is just to make sure they can get every faction in the games first.

I think the one wall approach isn't bad they just need to expand the play area more so there's a higher chance of getting to fight beyond the walls. Even if they just reused the features from Attila like fire and the extra defenses that would be great.

It's the one thing that worries me a bit with Warhammer is they have a good base down right now and thats fine. I just want to see them keep pushing it and adding to it and not just leaving things as they currently are.

But you're right though they have been actually taking feed back and putting it to use so that gives me hope they'll try to address some of the bigger issues with the expansions/newer games.
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>>161773325
Vlad Daddy is the best.
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>>161773325

>rightful place as the faction leader patch never
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>>161774219
Vladdy is spending all the GBP he has to stay as faction leader.
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>>161773325
>Vlad army engages Orc stack + WAAGH stack
>Grave Guard battleline gets thinner and thinner, but if we hold out the orc's moral will break
>click on Vlad to drop some zombies behind their ranks
>I AM BUSY

s-sorry dad
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>>161773421

There are some Storm of Chaos units they could add. Tuetgen Guard and Knights Panther come to mind as obvious choices.
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>>161774423
I'm not sure why I said Vladdy instead of Manny. Maybe because they're both bad compared to the true Emperor, Sigmar.
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>>161772294
WHOSE THE OLD FRIEND REEEEEEEEEE
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So I am listening to a lore video about Tomb Kings

Settra seems like an alright guy, Are the Tomb Kings "evil" i.e. chaos/Skaven tier bullshit or just they want to get back what was stolen from there.

Also who are their gods?
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Best I've ever done on legendary.
Started out with him gathering on a huge hill with woods. I kept harassing him to draw out his light cavs one by one and killed em all. Then I moved on to my main attack, cornering him on his edge of the map.
I didn't realize what I was doing at first, but I ended up confusing the shit out of the AI by having 4 of my matchlocks constantly rehiding in woodlands with most of my forces as he kept trying to reorganize his massive lines. I had both generals, an ashigaru, and a matchlock on the other side of him on a hill with woods. I basically had him cornered on a thickly wooded hilltop and he had so many troops that he had to keep reorganizing his line.
If I were defending he would've just full frontal attacked me and I may have ended up losing. I was able to widdle away at his troops over the course of an hour.
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>>161775931
Tomb Kings are basically a neutral faction, similar to wood elves in that they just want people to get off their damn lawn, and take back the shit people have stolen from them.
Settra is a bit of an asshole but he's a very competent asshole.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>161776363
Another part I forgot to include is that I had to switch out my matchlocks because of ammo. Had it been a human player it definitely wouldn't have gone down that way.
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>>161765897
>SFO
how are VC in SFO?
>>161775931
>Are the Tomb Kings "evil"
neutral I believe.
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>Go down the "army upgrade" route for Skarsnik
>Suddenly Wolf Riders become better than both the RoR version and the Squig Hoppers
>Realize that Wolf Riders benefit from the nastier squigs and all of the regular goblin skills

Man, fucking Wolf Riders man.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>161776474
> still no Skaven faction
I love them, they are such assholes, they are probably even eviler than Chaos.
I wonder what would their racial gimmick be. Maybe something that would make your own lords turn on you on some conditions, since they are known to have no morals and just backstab eachother at any given opportunity.
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>Confederate Stirland.
>VC have 4 armies sitting outside of Wurtbad.
>Move Gelt's army into Wurtbad and start marching another army from Marienburg.
>VC waste no time and declare war the same turn.
>Gelt and the garrison are spooked by all the skellies, so I can't sally forth.
>Other army is only halfway through Reikland.
>End turn hoping for the best.
>No battle this turn, look at Wurtbad.
>VC moved half of their skelly armies away.
>Gelt runs down Ghorst and Kemmler with almost no casualties.
>Other two armies don't even attack The Moot, they just screw off back to Sylvania.
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>>161777117
filthy vermin
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>>161777117
>Maybe something that would make your own lords turn on you on some conditions,

>have to manage fear as a mechanic
>destroying enemy armies/cities and completing objectives increases it
>losing battles and failing objectives decreases it
>low fear increases public unrest and adds attrition to armies
>too low and non-LL leaders will rebel with their troops
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Where the hell are they going?
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>>161779235
im going to build my own frankreich, with blackjack and hookers!
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>>161779235
>>161779439
Perhaps they'll come to Judea and join the race of chosen merchants.
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T*rkroaches getting BTFO in a last stand rebellion.
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>>161778796
That's the point why I like them, they are literal rats, they don't give a fuck, LITERALLY only thing they care about is to be more powerful than the others, that's their ultimate goal.
With Orks, you can see that they too want to be powerful, but they have other goals too, they want to be famous through their actions and be respected or just have fun. It's usually like a game for them. Then we have points like Gobbla getting gutted which made Skarsnik get depressed and drop his Waaagh! to go and cry and scheme into his pillow.
But nah, Skaven are just utter bags of dicks, they can't do anything together because they are too busy backstabbing eachother. They make up their incompetence with sheer numbers and some kuhrayzee inventions.
The only reason why they became so dangerous during End Times was because their literal god descended from heavens and told them to stop acting like assholes to eachothers for the first time in history and start being assholes to everyone else.
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>>161779926
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>>161780030
How many Skavens would there be in a unit? 120? 200? Would be awesome (and bad for the GPU) if they were a fuck ton of them but were cheap and died rapidly
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>>161780093
RIP Constantine IX
At least you died knowing your empire has a future ;_;7
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>>161780253
F
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>>161780253
Bittersweet end turn
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>>161780186
Probably fuckhuge amount in fodder units and sensible amount for some more specialized units like warplock pistol wielding cowboys. I'd love to roll around with units of doomwheels just racing around the battlefield.
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>>161780186

Seeing as Goblins only get 160 at max, I think Skaven Slaves which are literally the trashiest units available should at least be 200 or more.

And eventually when you get to Stormvermin who are the top tier infantry, it should still be quite high maybe around 120? And depending on how they implement the Clan system for Skaven, let's say you allign yourself with Clan Mors then you get more Stormvermin in your units because they specialise in breeding Stormvermin.
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>>161780406
Because we are playing on glorious achievement mode, I have hit turn 1225 and accomplished one of the glorious achievements which was to keep all of my homeland provinces.
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>>161777117
>implying it wont be skaven offices and skaven fightiness meter
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>>161780583
Here is our next emperor who has decent stats and virtues. His goal will be to strengthen the empire's borders and retake Greece.
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Who to play, lads?
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>>161781298

Skaven.
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>>161781298
Wood Elves
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>>161781298
middenland
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But I don't want to play as fucking Pontus!
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>>161781298
Bestermark of course.
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>>161781409
>>161781408
>>161781397

Here I'll roll for it


0-2: Skaven
3-5: WE
6-8: Middenland
9: Man o' War Corsair
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>>161781409
>mfw I accidentally saved this in my Todd folder
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>>161781531

Glory to the Horned Rat, man-thing.
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>>161781531

KILL KILL THE MANTHINGS
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>>161781298
TK
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>>161781675
>all those spread out territories
wew lad, good luck holding those
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>>161781675
Apparently we start off as buds with Archaon
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Anyone remember that PBEM campaign we tried to do last year and failed? It was supposed to be the ERE in SS6.4 but it kinda died off because of the delay between players and postings. I'd like to bring it back if there's any interest.
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>>161781894
Pretty sure he can put out/support as many units from one city as most factions can from their whole kingdom.
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>>161782098
Also forgot to mention I found the save files for it and the plan is to play until the emperor's death then pass it on to another player.
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want to play some M2, would do SS but i live on uni and cant downolad torrents, any recommenations?
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Started playing Rome 2 again after nothing but warhammer for last 6 months.

I am really enjoying the smaller scale battles, not having 20men+ battles every time is really refreshing.

It is a lot slower to, its nice to be able to maneuver your javelins to the flank before the infantry fight is already over.
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Wazzock I need a magic mod that makes magic good I am tired of burning skulls and vortexes that do nothing.
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>>161782290
bellum crucis
planetwar
thera
third age total war
beginning of the end times
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>>161782438

Steel faith overhaul
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>>161782438
Thanks friend!
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>>161782035
>Apparently we start off as buds with Archaon
you're also a part of the chaos 'crusade' mechanic.
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>>161782592
meant for>>161782558
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>>161782035
how long do turns usually take? I'm interested in trying out the mod
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>>161782771
Like, 30 seconds at the start of the game

I might end up quitting Skaven, as I really dont like being literally all over the entire map
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>>161782859
Play as stirland
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Why don't Undeads have any human units? The game makes them look like some sort of evil pseudo-Chaos, but aren't they just some okay guys that everyone else just considers evil, because they are not pussies and dabble in forbidden magic? Some people happily live there.
I'm not saying that the Undeads need any more units for their roster, only that it's odd.
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Is Ancient Empires out yet
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>>161782921
Because look at the table top units.

They do not have any human units, the vampires are necromancers and have control of undead automatons that work like puppets.

Humans live in slyvannia but they are fed on like cattle.
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>>161782302
Yeah i don't know what it is about warhammer but the whole thing moves way too fast.

Your lines get engages and by the time you can whirl your cav around for some charges everyones nearly dead already.

I really hope they'll try to done ti down a little as time goes one.
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>>161782859
>I might end up quitting Skaven, as I really dont like being literally all over the entire map
I think they're trying to fix for the next patch. Gonna go make sure though
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>>161783046

Yes
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>>161783095
oh really

cool

>>161782098
what's PBEM
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>>161782449
thank you friend!
will give them a go
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>>161783145
Play by e-mail
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>>161783069
Its a fun game, but it could be a little slower everything is over very fast.

In Rome and Attila you have a big skirmish before you even engage in melee, and city battles can last over half an hour with you pulling troops all over the map setting up choke points and killing floors.

Warhammer is a little more rush focused, i am hoping WE change that up a bit.
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>>161783220
>Play by e-mail
lmao what

are we playing chess now
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>>161782921
Mostly because the rule books focused on the undead side of things. On the table top if you wanted to you could always do up some Bretonnian men at arms to look like some Sylvanian peasants and proxy them for Skellies or something. That kind of thing just never got a rule book entry though.
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Here, lets play the Hippie Elves to cure my wait for their full release
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So I finally upgraded my GPU (RX 480). Is Warhammer worth picking up?
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>>161783054
Ah, I thought that humans actually liked to live there, with mandatory regular blood donations.
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>>161783072
>>161782859
Skaven are no longer all over the map now. though they now have sub faction clans all over
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G O B L I N S
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>>161780030
Skaven are a Beastman subfaction. They are both animals turned into chaos alinged humanoids by warpstone.

Skaven are the Goblins of the Beastman faction, the smart, madcap, tech-savvy, but weak ones. Conventional Beastmen are the Orcs, dumb, strong, brutes.
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>>161783457
That's the propaganda, the reality is basically slavery but so is being a peasant just about anywhere else, whether he realizes it or not.
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>>161783614
So are these Skaven who decided to hit the gym?
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Things are going smoothly for the Jewish Visigoths, even if it is 417AD.
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>>161783709
Anything is possible if you huff and inject enough warpstone dust.
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>>161783910
genocide them
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>>161783338
last warning bud
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>>161783435
Wait until it's on sale around christmas time. Definitely not worth current price.
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>>161784183
You misunderstand; I migrated the Visigoths to Arabia Felix to convert to Judaism and retook Palaestina.
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>>161783910
Did you remove sassanids?
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>>161784341
yes, not genocide them before you get surprise refugees in your borders
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>>161783614
Are skaven beastmen?

They seem to smart.
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>>161784581
now*
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>>161783551
Goblins...
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>>161784345
I wish I could claim credit for that, but no, White Huns and Huns did that for me and gave me room to expand north and focus on the ERE.

>>161784581
Oy veyyy
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When i was 4 years old my sister was half my age. Now I am 100 years old, how old is my sister?
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>>161784931
50
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>>161784740
They're similar to Beastmen but not quite the same
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>>161784931
98?
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>>161784931
50
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>>161785050
>>161785529
are you retarded
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>>161784931
Post nudes of your sister
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>>161785593
why aint it 50, 50 is the half of 100 lol
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>>161784931

Too old
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>>161784931

98
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>>161785593
>are you retarded
yes. :(
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>>161784931
78
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>>161786284
Where do you get 78 bud
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>>161785593

are you?
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>>161782859
One of the vampire factions.

Or Wissenland.
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Maybe I'll be able to finish this campaign before wood elves come out
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>>161786356
Bro 100-2/2 is 12 so you get 78
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>>161786716
50 i can agree on.. 98 makes sense to an extent but 78 seems stupid
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>>161786814
>american """"""eductaion""""""
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>>161786814
>simple math can have multiple answers
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>>161786814
>98 makes sense to an extent
Well we're glad to hear that because that's the actual right answer bud
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>>161787014
explain then, all you do is samefag and throw mud
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So, who else is gonna play a "humanist" wood elf campaing? No war with the Empire or Bretonnia but everyone else is fair game.
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>>161787304

nah fuck that I want amber for those glade dragons.
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>>161787239
Oh ffs if the sister is half your age when you're 4 then she's 2, so you're 2 years older than her; so when you're 100 she's 98, is this really this fucking hard or are you baiting?
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>>161787304
Everyone else is fair game? If that includes the southern filth known as Estalia and Tilea then yes, that's my plan.
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>>161787452
Dont get why you bother
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We'll get to the Eight Peaks even if we have to raze everything between us and it.
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>>161787578

They are not humans at all, so yes fuck them. The stunty scum are also a fair target.
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>>161787615
If I hand anything better to do I wouldn't be on this site m8
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>gobbo archers
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>VC campaign
>Crown of Command as loot
What am I supposed to do with this thing
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>>161781564
wasnt this picture in Fagout 4?
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>>161788267
Wear it.
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Attack the stunties, or go straight for the Eight Peaks?
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>kill an elector count
>steal his runefang
I didn't know you could do this
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>>161789307

Who did you kill?
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>>161789606
Emil von Korden IIRC, Marienburg's faction leader
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wot the zog
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>>161789780
Look out, those guys are Decent In Melee
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>>161789690
If so I don't think the leader of Marienburg has a Runefang, they're not part of the Empire.
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>>161789780

>Engineer
>plus all those rangers

fuuark
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>TW:W is dying quick.
>Literally 3 people playing it on twitch now with less than 20 watching
>It's all because creative arts doesn't understand the concept of reasonable prices = higher sales = more players = bigger community = more profit
And you know the executives are going to use a strawman to justify it's massive drop in success, like warhammer = shit ip or soimething. I'll be surprised if we get any more armies after the next.
But seriously who doesn't have a steam sale on black fucking friday
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>>161790250
>creative arts
>watching total war on twitch instead of just playing yourself
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>>161790250
>TW:W is dying quick
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>>161789780
Now grobi, die!
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>>161790250
TW was never a popular series to stream, it is much more popular on ordinary videos cause of replays and lets plays.

Warhammer isn't dying either, I don't know how you managed to get that idea
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>>161790250
>twitch
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Why does CA keep cucking us with magic? why the fuck doesnt the grey wizard have a teleport spell? WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY SHIT ON A FUN MECHANIC LIKE THAT, THEY ARE BEING SO LAZY REEEEEEEEEE
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>>161790250
Maybe if it wasn't so shallow. They're obviously making a profit off of it with those criminal DLC prices.
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>>161790716
>good goy is actually fine with the current magic system
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>>161773325
Vlad is pay 2 win: the lord
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>>161790250
ok
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>>161790538
the fact that both the lore of life and the lore of shadows are both the same vortex, wind, and buff bullshit bodes really ill for whether or not they will fix magic at all
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>>161790854
>free lord is pay to win
anon...
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>>161790854
vlad is flc....
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>>161787304
I am
I'm actually planning on re-playing an Empire campaign focused on maintaining the elves as my allies

I don't know why but in Fantasy settings I always loved Humans and elves/cat people having extremely close relationships.
Dwarves are usually pretty chill too but not Warhammer dwarfs.
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>>161790858
Attila btfo
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>>161790961
is it because of multiplayer balance?
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>>161791014
>>161791064
My bad

I bought a Vampire DLC recently and couldn't remember which one it was
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>>161790390
One of these games was released at a reasonable price for the content, with good developer support, price sales, and updates about once every 3 months.
The other is tw warhammer.

I suppose dying quick was the wrong set of words.
Dying slowly on life support would be much more accurate.
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>>161791404
Probably at first, now they are just being overly conservtive. Plus they should just stop being jewish and balance single player and MP for magic like they did for legendary lords
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>I don't know why but in Fantasy settings I always loved Humans and elves/cat people having extremely close relationships.
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>>161790250
Thats normal for every game though. First week is the peak followed by a sharp drop off when all the normies decide they don't like it.
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>>161791294
>>161792085
I'm so incensed I forgot to quote you
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Do you guys think total war games will ever be cracked again?
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>>161792372
The better question is "Do you think total war games will ever be good again?"
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(((Italians))) are at it again
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>>161790250
It is still on the first page of global top sellers over 6 months after release, despite not a single drop in price. That is not the sign of a dying game you moron, nor is twitch.
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>>161792970
Also another interesting thing about MTW is how allies respond to war differently.
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>>161793110
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>>161777117
They better have some mechanic for building under other factions settlements or I will scream. Also Clan Skyre and Clan Vrrrtik superiority
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>>161780541
>Breeding stormvermin
Clan Mors is more about other big things really. There is one clan in particular that had super high amount of stormvermin born, selling them to everyone else. Now of course. the Skaven Council of Thirteen say them as a threat. And one day the stormvermin stopped being sold, and no one has heard from the clan since. Kinda strange huh?
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>>161790250
>Literally 3 people playing it on twitch now with less than 20 watching
so?
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>>161791512
whats the game?
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Can I only recruit a squad of renown once? my cool elite zombies died
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>>161794836
you can get them again after a certain number of turns I think
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>>161795048

10% chance per turn for them to become available again is what I've seen people say.
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>>161795048
>>161795351
Thanks frneds
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Give me the roll chart friends.
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>>161796061
no
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>>161796128
Why?
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It's over men
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>>161797378
At least Constantine IX didn't have to live to see this. They won't be neutral for very long.
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>>161797474
I'm being attacked from all sides. Here's a high res screenshot that's illegible on my 15 inch CRT
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Naval battles are such a fun clusterfuck

this battle may seem like a minor clash to the western powers but for Persia this is a great victory as the otomeme fleet has been crushed and our port defended, as trade is the only source of income at the moment this is crucial
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Is Fall of the Eagles better then Vanilla Attila?
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>>161798006
the way is now open to take Baghdad from the turks

truth is that I didn't actually want to fight them, and wanted to conquer the Mughal India first, as getting close to european lands means having to fight the much more powerful states there, but Baghdad is a great province, and having turks one movement turn from my own capital seemed risky, I'll try to negotiate a peace treaty after this conquest and actually go after Mughals
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the swordsmen supported my the cavalry and cannons send the turkish centre running, all that is left is to deal with the enemy force that is about to crush the wavering left flank

the enemy used their organ guns with great effectiveness, those things are seriously scary

>>161798145
its unfinished so no
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Satrap Demetrios takes to battle against the Indian interlopers within his realm.
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The fine chargers paw nervously as the skirmishers move off to neutralize their opposing foes.
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the skythian nobles, resplendent in their finery make a fine spectacle as they unleash their arrows into the lighter indian cavalry.
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>>161799426
>>161799531
>>161799612
Is it just me or is EB1 more visually appealing?
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>>161783457
Depends on the count really. Some of them do that, some of them just grab some random schmuck off the farms to drink, and some ask for every firstborn child or whatever bullshit. It is kinda like the empire where it can be either nice and kinda comfy or a horror show where you're fucked beyond measure.
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The satrap gives his brave lancers to start trotting down the hill. They shall sweep away their foes in a long and glorious charge!

The Noble charioteers shall be the first to feel the wrath of the sons of Alexander!
>>161799638
you are more used to it.
But their units were pimped out to the max. Lower tier units look better in EB2 for example, but high tier units aren't completely wearing bling.
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>>161799086
this wasn't so bad, the organ guns killed a lot of my men, but their infantry stood no chance against the zamidari swordsmen, that made up the bulk of my army

now to consolidate and prepare for further hostilities
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The Persian nobles charge in head first, smashing into the advancing indian heavy infantry like a thunderbolt from Zeus himself!
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The Hellenes and baktrians come to the aid of their Persian compatriots, and put the indian infantry to flight.
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Does meloncat still come here?
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A lone unit of Indian spearmen are the only foes that do not flee the onslaught. They hold their ground and cause the lancers to fall back and regroup, despite taking excessive losses!
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They soldier on, desperately trying to come to grips with our fast horsemen, while they are peppered with arrow fire.
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>>161800287
Did EB2 flesh out Romans yet?
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they finally quail and are destroyed as they attempt to flee.
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The valley is littered with the corpses of the invaders. The satrap stands triumphant!
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>>161793593
>>161780030
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The Satrap returns to baktria, to recruit more men to take up arms. The Indians will be back soon, and it falls to the satrap to defend his realm from the might of the Mauryan Raja
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>>161800775
last one unless someone has one they'd like me to do
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>>161775924
It's Krell
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HELP
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>>161793593
The underway and the dwarven towns and cities should have been on a separate underway map but CA is too lazy to do that. This whole game just feels like its a big mess of hugely wasted potential.
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>>161782921
Vlad was the only good leader Slyvannia had. No human would serve under Mannlet.
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As autumn ends, the Satrap's army stands ready. Once winter has passed, they shall give battle to the Indian forces near the town of Orthospana.
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Winter is uneventful, with the only news of note being that the watchtowers to spy on the Skythians have finally been completed. Should the Saka invade, we shall have forewarning. Alexandria will not fall again!
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The years since Diodotos has been appointed Satrap of Baktria have been prosperous for the people, both hellene and barbarian. The city grows, and soon it shall be the crown jewel in the land of a thousand cities.
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goddamn, I love the map generator sometimes.
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To survive as the Jewish Visigoths I've had to do some unpalatable things.
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finally, what kind of a man takes seven years to fug his wife? quite an ebin crib though

>>161802732
AXUMED
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The larger of the two Indian forces is camped outside the town. A wise move, but one that Diodotos can use to his advantage. We shall attack them at night and defeat them, thus isolating the indians from help and besieging the town.

As the day ends sacrifices are given to the gods to guide us to victory!
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>>161802732
race traitor
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>>161795351
>>161795048
Huh? In my Empire run they were up for recruitment the next turn every time I lost a RoR. Maybe I just got lucky.
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>>161802732
>>
>fight against mousillon
>the shamble of the zombies and rattle of the skeletons makes it look like a fluttering field of gold
Stunning display
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>>161803540
Not even the most merchant thing I've done. For example, accepting peace from ERE for 5000 ducats and declaring war on ERE on invitation from ally for 3000 ducats on the same end turn phase.
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>>161782921
The Stigory used to have rules for human units also the Lhamia did have charmed units
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>>161782921

>but aren't they just some okay guys that everyone else just considers evil

Not at all, they're power-hungry cunts to the very core, only Vlad and a couple of Strigoi were ever remotely human in their intentions.

Vamps are evil, they're just a different kind of evil than Chaos. Chaos is turmoil, destruction and, well, chaos. Vamps is a more orderly evil, like an eternity of stagnant, unchanging servitude under an oppressive autocratic boot.

>Some people happily live there.

No they really, really don't, that's a giant fucking meme, Sylvania is a nightmare for the laymen and peasantry that live there.
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>>161804292
that attila cover looks ebin
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>>161804292
>no rome 1
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Does Stainless Steel fix pikemen?
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>>161805098
They are unfixable.
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>>161805090
90, get on warhammo
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>>161805139
Guess I wont bother with a Scotland campaign then
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>>161805098
the warhammer mods fix them, most fixes are done via modding removing secondary weapons, this makes them killing machines. lower their armour or stamina to counteract this\

you win then anon
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Does Call of Warhammer have any scripted invasions/events like the original did, or is it totally sandbox?
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>>161805226
I wasn't rolling. But yeah I'll finish up my Stuntie campaign before Wood Elves. Playing Path of Exile at the moment.
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>>161787636
>crooked moon
>moon shaped territory

nice borders brud
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>>161791512

Are those twitch viewership numbers?

Because literally who gives a shit.

Also TW:W has some of the best post-release dev support ever for a game in it's genre.
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Convince me to buy the Wood elves without using the letter "E"
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>>161806186
do it you faggot
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>>161806186
Big Asrai titties
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>>161805478

Rage of the Dark Gods has scripted invasions.
Beginning of the End Times is the sandbox version.
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>>161771340
Where'd my cavalry go Ney? lol.
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so where in the db files can I disable ladders, Im sick of sieges being so lacklustre so intend to disable ladders, but nerf tower range slightly to make artillery viable, this will hopefully make sieges fun
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It is now Official. Athel Loren is radiant in its resplendence. Delicate young boys cavort for the delight of their mistresses, and the luminescence of sprites and pixies flicker through the enchanted wood. The Sisters of Twilight languorously uncurl from their embrace; panpipes flute a tune of merriment throughout the halls of the summerstrand. The diverting indignities of gorposting and Deep-Thinking Goblins are a receding memory, a windblown fragment of the season past. All Asrai make ready for frolic and improductivity; indolence is the watchword, and none can be found but are feverishly, zealously committed to inactivity.

From the Oak of Ages, the Eternal Queen watches and is warmed by the celebrations of her people. In such a festive air, Orion's rebirth cannot but be imminent; Ariel's handmaidens ceaselessly weave flowers into her hair, presenting an endless procession of styles and and aspects by which their beloved monarch might greet her consort. Those that retain a sense of time and worldly events look to his arrival; Naieth's divinations serve only to confirm what the jubilant atmosphere of the forest makes evident.

Wood Elves Confirmed.
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>>161806501

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=805618721&searchtext=sieges
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>>161806501

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=693598331
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>>161793248
>>161793110
Did the original Medieval have a smarter AI than say Medieval 2 or are those just nice flavor texts?

It always bothered me how the AI in M2 was just a bunch of backstabbing lunatics that would refuse any peace offer you make.

>>161797984
I'd say screw the Greek campaign for now and focus on holding Asia Minor from the Mongols.
Also rip Russia up there. They're about to be hit by the rape train.
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who /playingexclusivelyoverwatchandfinalfantasy15untilwoodelvescomeout/ here?
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>>161807114
>ff15

All comfiness, no substance.
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>>161807114
>playing weeb garbage
elf kekolds
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>>161807114
>overwatch
Watch BW faggit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BwUCoUMzRc

is this guy right?
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>>161806542
>sistersoftwilight
>not even in the dlc

NEETposters BTFO
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>>161807590
what fucking nationality are these clowns? I swear it's hard to tell Finns from Mexicans and Indians sometimes. Also fuck people who use those overlays to sound like Xerxes or GI Joe.
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>>161805847
No? Searches and interest in the game.
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>>161807914

Google searches?

Also what fucking game are you comparing it to anyway, those graphs are meaningless without knowing what is being compared.
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>>161806283
You fucked up, you used an E, shoulda gone with "tits".

Also sauce me that image.
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>>161807114
Overwatch is not ideologically compatible with the anti-western NEET ideology of the Asrai to be honest. True Understanders should enjoy The House in Fata Morgana or Dominions 4 instead.
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>>161807982
ineedtoknowsoicanpingeonholealogicalfallacyintoyourarguementindefenseofmyshittygame
free tip: it came out about the same time
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>>161787304
Nah fuck the sub-elves. I'll colonize their lands, enslave them and make them toil in my amber fields.
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>>161807590
Not really, complainign about preorder DLCs still when we know that without that the DLC will just be a standalone £8 DLC released later is absurd. I'd rather have as many factions at launch, for the same price as the vanilla. Guess TW fanbase really is retarded.
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>>161808143
Refusing to have an open argument isn't working in your favor.
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>>161808143

>free tip: it came out about the same time

That only narrows it down to between 5 and 20 other titles depending on how wide your definition of "about the same time"

Is it Doom? At this point that's my best guess.

And if it is Doom then the logical fallacy I'm gonna "Pigeonhole" is "False Equivalence"
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>>161808143
So you realise you're comparing it to a game of a totally different genre yet still decided to go for it for the sake of your shitty argument?
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>>161806558

>>161806559

removes wall access and siege towers

what absolute fucking heresy, I just went over the workshop and have hackneyed my own fix up by changing values across the board, seems to work alright. if anyones interested heres what it does.
siege tower level 1 range 275
siege tower level 2 range 300
siege tower level 3 range 310

WALLS!
health nerfed by 40%

Tower Health
level 1 tower 5000 (default for all towers is 10,000)
level 2 tower 6000
level 3 tower 9000

Decaying zombies/heroless mousillons vampire mod without heros

its on filedropper , copy /justaprankbro
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>>161808143
wow dude you are so smart
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>>161808331
relevant pic.
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>>161808368
>recommended for you
cuck
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playing empire again and I remembered several of the reasons I like it so much despite all the issues and want a sequel:
>the best campaign map in the franchise
I am talking about provinces and their management, seeing those settlements appear on the map with population growth, having them spread out a lot, and the large number of different things you can build there and their effects is really cool

>agents are useful but not as fucking annoying as other titles
there are no long as fuck unskippable animations you have to watch (fuck you medieval2), they are not as deadly as rome 2 or shogun 2. But they are also not useless

>the ministers and different government forms system
this is self-explanatory, imagine this with all the added family tree management and inner politics of Attila? also a way to peacefully change government type would be nice

>good potential in terms of battles
gunpowder total war titles have one serious advantage over melee titles - and that is the fact that you can fall back or reorganise your line without an instant rout. It makes battles much more tactical, in theory that is, in reality the AI is too fucking retarded to actually force you to use any tactics, the multiplayer is the most "deep" one in the franchise though, its just a shame that I joined into the MP really late, so most of the community moved on

>a surprising sense of progression and variety
this didn't happen in med2 because all the late period units were pretty much broken, but in empire you get a really good feeling for it - early game most guns are rubbish with shit stats and lousy bayonets, so melee infantry and cavalry spam is actually a preferred way of fighting, but as infantry and artillery become increasingly efficient melee units become redundant, the western and eastern nations deploy a rather different armies and as a result have different fighting styles, the campaigns of SOME of the different factions play out significantly differently
>naval battles are fun
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>>161808368
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>>161808487
Yeah it's good in many ways. If only the units followed commands.
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PC Specs:
AMD Athlon X4 750k Quad-Core 4.0GHZ
8gb RAM
AMD Radeon HD 7700

Can I run Attila?
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>>161807703
FLC Soon.
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>>161808487
>the best campaign map in the franchise

I just can't stand the one province France and so on. I like it more when the maps are focused.
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>>161808626
>AMD Radeon HD 7700
Which one?

It's playable for me on a 7770 but it really made wish for an upgrade. Also an fx-4100 so I think you might be ok.
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>>161808487
yeah the birth of democratic institutions and radical liberalism at the tiem would make for soem great government 'tech' trees that could be opened by diplomatic, technological and social trees and conditions. It would be great if they made 'revolutionary' agents which could influence teh direction of foriegn governments. Imagine sending one to Despot France resulting in a Napoleon, campaign magic.
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Turns out Eb2 has a new patch.
Did Ancient Empires and 1212 get released too, perhaps? :^)
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>>161808487
cntd:
trade system, while still very barebones, is better than in other titles, because there is actually a reason to kill other factions traders even if you don't have your own to take over the node is, the reason is that the price of the good is determined by its supply, killing traders of other factions will lower the supply, increase the price and as such also boost your income

it had a replenishment system which is a decent compromise, between the overly simplistic new system (troops replenish automatically at no cost, though admittedly even wounded units carry full upkeep so you can argue that all the extra upkeep is spent to recruit the missing soldiers) and the older title system of having to move your armies around to replenish (I actually prefer this system, to both the empire and later titles, but I understand why CA moved on from it)

an attempt to reflect social issues by having several different classes with their own tax rate and public order

I am sure I will think of more reasons as I keep playing, but this is all I can remember for now, and I gotta say that its a shame empire is so broken because of all the incredible potential it has and some of the really nice features
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>>161808753
7750
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>>161808487
>>161808837

tl:dr Empire is full of good ideas but with overall shitty execution.

We already knew this
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>>161809037
I knew it too, but I wanted to hear it again
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>>161808751
I wasn't just talking about the size of the map, but features and province management, also with the modern much more powerful computers it shouldn't be much of an issue to significantly increase the number of provinces (the "france" province did have a ton of towns immerse in it at max population)
>>161808762
yep, it has an incredible potential for depth
>>161809037
I know, I know, I'm just playing it again and feeling bumhurt due to all the wasted potential
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>>161808368
>Pike&Shot get released
>play as the Ottomans and bully European fuckbois with my hordes of cavalry
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>>161808837
The replenishment in Warhammer is pretty reasonable apart from 'regiments of renown' and some elite units. Greenskins are everywhere and flock to the toughest boss so its reasonable to expect them to find men anywhere, Chaos constantly corrupts and gets new blood joining for favour, VC raise dead, Dwarfs are more unlikely but they are pretty tough so possibly shrug off pretty bad wounds and also their sons take up their fathers place in the throng and finally Empire could levy or recruit mercenaries.
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>>161809161
>not playing as Crimean Tatars and enslaving qt Polish and Ukrainian girls and switching sides in wars whenever it suits you
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>>161809245
Fucking nice
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>>161809245
>play Russia
>"liberate" everyone
>turn everything into a shithole with negative income
Suka blyat
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>>161779235

he's 19, let him find his own way
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>>161809245

>tfw removing ottomans from the premises
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>>161808762
>creating a revolution and then a Napoleon, inspiring revolutions for centuries to come, toppling your own government and burning down half of Europe.
Playing with fire there m8.
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>>161779235
>strength ranking: 60
>hates rival """"""empires""""""

Jeez Louise, check out the hybris on Feletheus.
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>>161808368
>Pike&Shot
>Release has four playable faction
>England, Spain, Russia and Ottomans
>England
>Henry VIII, King of England LL, can't have sons
>Francis Drake, Pirate LL with horde naval subfaction
>Spain
>Hernán Cortés, Conquistador LL with New Spain subfaction
>Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor LL
>Ottomans
>Suleiman the Magnificent, Sultan LL
>Hayreddin Barbarossa, Corsair LL with Barbary Corsairs subfaction
>Russia
>Ivan the Terrible, Tsar LL
>Yermak Timofeyevich, Cossack LL with Cossacks subfaction conquering Siberia
>Day 1 pre-order DLC: Aztecs
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is there any way to keybind item abililities in total warhams, (to make using dwarven gyro units not fucking awful and clunky to use?)
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>>161809561
>historical TW with the same structure as TWW
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>>161791359

People don't like the setting and thought it didn't add enough to R2, but it's definitely better than R2
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>>161809615
Yeah that's the joke. You got it.
Good job.
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>>161809668
Thanks
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>>161809615
The age of pussy faggot ass generals is over. Legendary Lords are the future.

>he doesn't want to go on a quest as Ivan the Terrible to acquire the Zmey Gorynych mount
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>>161809676
Any time my dude.
Keep up the good work.
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>>161809717
Thank you for improving the twg experience
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>>161809717
S-stop it
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>>161809837
I can do no less.
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>Play BotET/CoW
>Karl Franz or some other significant character get killed off immediately by some rebels because the AI send them out on their own

Some lame stuff can happen with the older system to be honest.
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>>161809713
An age of mythology total war would be pretty sweet. Imagine unlocking Sleipnir for Odin for a 20% increased campaign map range or sending Cerberus into the line of Tuath De.
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>>161808779
what version?
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>>161809963
>monotheists are the mongol-style end boss
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>>161810034
eb 2.2e
They are trying to make empires even more unstable it seems
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>>161810102
good.
Also less broken reforms.
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>>161809963
Just make Dominions Total War.

I just want a Dominions adventure mode like in dorf fort.
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>>161808368
CHINA total war is next
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>>161810109
Dominions is too pure for this world
Ys waifus are asrai tier
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>>161810381
反清復明!!!!
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>>161810381
Pls let Dong Zhuo be playable
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>>161810381
MONGOLIAN MASTER RACE
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>>161810461
DONG? LOL
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>>161810531
pls no burry

Time for Osprey Throat Singing Dump
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>>161810381
>>161810460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfAXFfIUk0A&t=60m

How do you counter this fellow understanders?
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>>161810552
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>>161810461
>playing Lu Bu
>get cuckhold trait
>it's pic related
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>>161810584
Why do all these chinese "formations" seem so silly?
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>>161810634
>>161810621
>>161810584
>>161810552
MUH GOLDEN HORDE
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>>161810584
>posting the shitty 1994 TV series
>not posting superior Red Cliff version

Come on man
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>>161810381
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>>161810621
Braise dengri
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>>161810381
I really, really hope you are wrong
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>>161809963
Seriously something like this would be great.
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>>161810634
>not posting the 1994 version

>>161810707
topkek
1994 version has better dialogue though.
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>>161810707
this is by far my most favorite animeh
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>>161810774

>>161810820
top kek
We are after all on a Chinese papermaking board
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>muh lady intensifies
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>>161810863
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>>161810910
Jesus christ, that helmet decor is even worse than floppy hats.
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>>161810931
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>tfw da boss don't notice ya because yer a scrawny grot
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>>161784740
Skaven are not beastmen
in general beastmen are hybrids of beast and man, mutants
Skaven are 100% just rats that were corrupted and mutated into walking on 2 feet
there's a story that tells their tale of coming to be but i dont remember the name
it's something along the lines of "the doom of (city name that begins with K)"
Kazavor? Kavazor? Kazor? something. It tells how the skaven and their "capital" Skavenblight came to be (which is visible on the TWW campaign map actually)
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>>161810997
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I like this client ruler tbph.
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>>161811029
The Boss would have noticed you if you spent more time fighting and less time feeling

Ya git
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>>161811029
da boss needs scrawny gits at his side too.
Somebody has to catch all the arrows.

I fucking love basic Greenskin armies. You have to think to use them more than any other faction that usually just leans on one particular strength.

Early Empire are kinda similar I guess. A shame there is so little Empire/Greenskin action.

>>161811060
They're not the normal beastmen beastmen, but they're fairly similar in origin.
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>>161810968
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>>161811198
>Green
>he's white in his picture
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>>161810968
You got shit taste all the way m8
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>>161811060
Kavzar, full manuscript here.
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Wako a shit

Remove sushi

Kimchi a best
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>>161811308
>that arrow protruding from his back
Goddamn.
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>>161811082
REEE Mongols were white REEE
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How do I use halberds as the Empire effectively?

I take it they shouldn't be used as my main anvil unit?
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>floppy hats
did someone call floppy hat removal services?
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>>161811364
No fucks given from Herr Goblin Slayer
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>>161811318
One of the best movies I've seen
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>>161811427
They're just better spearmen without shields. More AP, more armor, more leadership.

Maybe they shouldn't be used as your main anvil for economic reasons but they are completely interchangeable with spearmen.
But because spearmen suffice you only really bother with halberds against Chaos/Stunties Where the armor penetration really matters.
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>>161811427
They are shit against anything that isnt a large monstrous unit.
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>>161810381
I really hope you are wrong, but im scared you're not

It makes sense they would do china to break into that market, which pisses me the fuck off
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>>161811227
well lets see

>Warp Gates collapse, chaos pours in, man and beast get merged together = beastmen

>Hooded stranger helps build a belltower, bell chimes, rats start eating people and become bipedal

The similarity is just that they're mutants and bipedal

Also, was that picture made by someone on twg or where is that thing from?
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>>161811498
why
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>>161811318
>ywn ram nips with your turtle ships as based Yi Sun Shin
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>>161811427
Use them against heavy armored targets. They will get fucked by maruader stacks. You can increase your halberd usage when chaos invade.

You don't really have one main anvil unit as the empire. All the different state troopers are supposed to work together. You can ignore the shieldless spearmen though(when you got the money for it I guess).
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>>161811498
what is your problem with it? It's a new setting as opposeod to the rehashes med II, Shogun II and Rome II and has been speculated for years since China is infamous for its history of warfare and strategy.
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>>161811558
>You can ignore the shieldless spearmen

I was under the impression that they attacked faster, or have I been memed?
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>>161811442
The way his head nonchalantly bounces off his neck is incredibly silly.
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>>161811498
pls no china
gibe Pike & Shot
GOTT MITT UNS
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>>161811612
The shield versions are the ones that attack faster.
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>>161811521
>>161811573
Because it's gonna be shogun-tier bullshit all over again.
10 recolored chinks with 1-2 unit variations.
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>>161811521
I hope hes wrong because Chinese warfare is fucking boring as shit and we have TW games that already do everything that is available during those eras already, just with guys with round eyes rather than squinty ones. Its nothing but peasant spam, calvary and crossbows with a handful of chariots for the earlier eras and bad explosive weapons for the late.

At least pike and shot gives them the chance to do something new and uses ALL the weapons and tools of medieval to renaissance era. Its one of the most diverse times in human history when it comes to weapons, armors and tactics.

It also lets us have a huge map with a very wide selection of factions across Europe, North Africa and America.
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>tfw we get a Pike&Shot game but the focus is on western europe with all the exciting variety of Eastern Europe just being a side theatre
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>>161811505
Maybe, I'd guess /tg/. They care that Total Warhammer exists as well.

Beastmen are more primordially Chaos for sure, and their forms are technically far more varied; but for model restrictions in the game.

But the Great Horned Rat is technically a Chaos God, and any mutation is from the same original source of Chaos.
They were more similar in earlier editions.

>>161811612
In multiplayer you ignore the shielded ones because of how weak skirmishers are and how important cheap bodies can be.

Wood Elves might make skirmishers great again.
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>>161811493
i fucking hate gook shows
M A Y B E I F I S H A K E T H E C A M E R A S O M E M O R E T H E A C T I O N W I L L B E B E T T E R
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>>161811662
But it won't be. When we say China Total War we refer to East Asia which is pretty fucking diverse in itself.

Southern Song Dynasty = Macedon
Taking Sino/Chinese culture as the equivalent to the Hellenic/Greek culture.

Jurchen Jin Dynasty = Parthia
Cavalry dominant, but can eventually field decent infantry.

Mongols = Saka/Sauromatae/Scythia
Horse archer spam incarnate. Alternatively may also be seen as Rome because they’re the “winners"

Western Xia/Tanguts = Seleucids
While it’s a mishmash of Chinese and Tangut/Steppe culture, but more Chinese. Seleucids are an Eastern-Hellenic hybrid, but more Hellenic.

Western Liao/Kara Khitan = Pontus
Chinese and Steppe culture mishmash, but more Steppe. Pontus is an Eastern-Hellenic hybrid but more Eastern.

Tibet = Armenia
Mountain kingdom, some of the heaviest cavalry of the Far East second to the Jin Dynasty (Armenian vs Parthian Cataphracts) but limited.

Genpei Japan = Epirus/Illyrians/Odrysian Kingdom/Dacians
Epirus because some Chinese influence, Illyrians because of as wako pirates raiding the lands to their west, and Odrysian because of their obsession with 2-handed polearms such as the naginata, which is like the Thracians with their rhomphaia. Dacians because their yumi bows aren’t that bad, but not stellar. Same can be said of the Dacians’ horse archery and foot archers. Also falxes.

Goryeo Kingdom = Bosphoran Kingdom
Located in the north, Chinese-influenced. Tends to get invaded by northern nomads. The Chinese once said that the Koreans had the best foot archers.

Southeast Asians = Celtics and Germanics and Iberian barbars
They’re relatively lighter in equipment, utilize javelins and falcata-like swords, and lack siege equipment and navies.

Dai Viet = Massilia
Southeast Asian faction with Chinese cultural influence.

Dali Kingdom = Colchis
Chinese-like mountain faction, but generally fields light troops
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>>161811573
>China is infamous for its history of warfare and strategy.
No, it isnt. In fact Chinese warfare is super fucking boring. It has a huge amount of romanticized stories about its wars, the wars themselves are terrible.
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>>161811689
As much as I dont like pike and shot, I gotta agree with this anon,- it's much better than chink total war.
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>>161811724
Doesn't shake as much as fucking Bourne Legacy
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>>161811725
If they make the map big enough, we might even see a few Indian cultures? The Himalayas would make that a pain though.
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>>161811493
And it's one of the few korean/chinese movies that actually make the japanese bad guys competent and/or dangerous.
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>>161811713
kind of ironic how the Wood Elves will probably be desttoyed by other ranged units, be it Quarrelers or Crossbowmen

Low armor, few numbers.. They're fucked. Their shooting has to be really good for them to not be the worst faction in the game, and looking at the stats we've seen thus far they're fucked
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>>161811787
If the Chinese modders can do it and I like the faction selection in 19th Century I can't see why CA won't do it.

The only problem is selling East Asia/China. Japan has the samurai mythos but China... well you can sell the invention of gunpowder and defending the wall by spinning it into some Night's Watch badass creed.

What I'm trying to say is perhaps CA can get people interested in the setting instead of working on a time period that already has a lot of interest in it.

>>161811819
This
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>>161811753
All wars are romaticized be they Roman, Japanese or otherwise. Chinese warfare was on a scale unimagined by europeans and was fought over an advanced urban China rather than barbaric mud huts. Still nice to know there'll be some autistic fits on /twg/ when the next historical title for 5 years is a period they hate.
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this should be the next map if china total war 1200-1500.

If not china total war I want Imperial Total war 1815-1910 which would include the entire world
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>>161811725
>rehash of what we have but for a culture the majority of the TW playerbase doesn't like or care about
Great design idea anon

You know why we got a TWW game and not a Chinese TB TW game? Because people recognize and enjoy the cultural similarities.

Fundamentally doing China is a bad idea because Western players dont give a shit about that culture, they already have lots of cultural options here in the West people want to play with.
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>>161808143
Why does twitch matter?
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>>161812060
Well you got a point. Always have to play it safe from the business point of view, disappointingly for me
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>>161811980
The irony of your post is incredible and your ignorance as to why its ironic is hilarious.
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>>161811910
Wood elves will wreck dwarfs at least but any fast melee army will be totally superior.
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What the fuck Aksum, you cheeky cunts. You married off your last King's widow to her own brother AND brought along two black wife's sons.

>>161811926
Fair enough.
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>>161812056
i want a hussite total war tbqh
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>>161811910
>>161812142
Magic might actually be a factor for the first time(not counting prepatch devolve), life gives regen which should be pretty fucking broken if they price it wrong.
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>>161812193
What kind of name is Eon anyways
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>>161811910
Wood lLves have more range, can fire on the move and high tier shooters have AP arrows.
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>>161812264
Empire will continue to be OP since they get it too
immortal steam tanks and demis because healing galore

I kinda wish that the Empire had worse versions of the lores of magic than the ones that "originally" get them
eg. Wood Elves with life
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>>161812130
that'll be some consolation when China:TW i announced no doubt.
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>>161812349
No, the poor sales and blow-back in doing an era people dont want will be the consolidation.
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>>161811980
>/twg/ when the next historical title for 5 years is a period they hate.
As if that matters, TWW will still be better than any historical TW game by miles.

CA cant into technology and wont be able to make a historical title that can compete
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>>161812337
I doubt the high tier archers will be worth it outside Campaign since they will probably cost fortunes
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>>161812342
They could just price the wizard chassis higher would be the simplest solution.
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>>161811249
green as in raw recruit.
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>>161811910
>be it Quarrelers or Crossbowmen
Neither of those will be able to compete

The only answer to WE archers is artillery or melee
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>>161812484
It depends, if they try a new engine and focus on more unit micromanagement and political options they could make a game that could easily compete with TWW. China/East Asia has plently of diversity to offer in terms of periods, warfare and cultures and certainly as much as any previous successful title. Still it is unlikely it'll appeal to as wider audience as TWW unless it catches on in China particularly well.
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>>161812708
>if they try a new engine
They're not.
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>>161812653
I mean
we can't really know for sure yet
but I feel like 1v1 Quarrelers vs Glade Guard, Quarrelers win
1v1 vs Deepwood Scouts, Quarrelers win
now the Waywatchers have a chance with their AP damage but I think thats it because none of the magic arrows give AP either

I'll run some tests once the DLC hits but these are my predictions
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CA should just rebrand the engine desu.
retards will lap it up.
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>>161812765
>we can't really know for sure yet
Yes we do because they are THE ranged faction and CA will balance them to be so.

They are also the most glass cannon faction meaning they have to have the highest damage ranged units or else the faction literally does not work at all.
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I want empire 2 above all, but age of discovery total war would be great too, they could even do a similar trillogy thing that they are doing with warhammer by having consecutive titles that result in a giant game from late medieval to napoop times

>>161812193
you got tricked

I remember the hilarious bug that allowed you to marry women to other women, and cause ridiculous incest in attila
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>>161812765
Their ranged units with ap missiles are their only reliable anti-armour units so they'll be overpowered at launch.
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>next tw game is announced
>its caveman age
>literally 1 unit type
>frenzy with friendly fire and with the ability to panic troops including its own
I wish CA did April fools jokes
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>>161812947
>Age of Discovery Trilogy

Early Game: Establish yourself in Europe. Transition from Pike and Shot to tricorne and bayonets.

Mid Game: It's actually hard to expand in this game, so one way to increase your resource base is to shit on/conquer foreign areas. Tribes and peoples with relatively lower technology levels can be dominated easily, but going up against places like China would take a more concerted effort. Technological levels around NTW's.

Late Game: You reach a level of technology that corresponds to that seen in FoTS and above. You get to dismantle the Qing dynasty.

Bonus Game: World War 1.
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>>161812849
I dont think CA even knows how to do that

I honestly imagine the department that takes care of the engine is just a closet filled with two skeletons who died at their desks years ago
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>>161813069
>I wish CA did April fools jokes
See: Rome 2 release LMAO
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>>161812864
If quarrelers can't trade at least decently with wood elf archers dwarfs are going to be completely fucked when facing against them
It doesn't make the wood elves bad if they can't trade with a unit that's supposed to trade well in skirmisher battles, it just means wood elves have to do something else to tackle dwarf skirmishers.
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>>161812864
except that the stats we've seen so far have shown that glade riders are worse than bretonnian plebs on horses and about on par with goblin wolf riders

The buffs that lords give to their army better be out of this world because they have shit missile damage too aside from waywatchers
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>>161812337
Have you seen any wood elf with a range better than 160? If not, Quarrelers will dumpster them
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>>161813190

>The buffs that lords give to their army better be out of this world because they have shit missile damage too

They have 6 different foot skirmish units and we've seen the stats of literally 1 of them you mong.

And that one was literally their tier 1 skirmishers.
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>>161813295
Well lets see here
we've seen the stats for the glade guard, deepwood scouts, the magic arrow versions for most of them, waywatchers, glade riders and the ones with the poison arrows as well and hawk riders

I'd say we've seen more than "one of their tier 1 skirmishers" you fucking oxygen thief
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TIGAHS TIGAHS TIGAHS
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>>161813170
>If quarrelers can't trade at least decently with wood elf archers dwarfs are going to be completely fucked when facing against them
Yeah no, artillery you doofus

Did you even watch the combat video?
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>>161813354

>deepwood scouts, the magic arrow versions for most of them, waywatchers

Source.
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>>161813392
this

Wood Elves are fucked and I wished it weren't so
but it is
>>161813418
the streams and gameplay videos you waste of space
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>>161808368
"OH BOTHER" SAID POO AS HE CHAMBERED ANOTHER ROUND
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>Playing Attila as Caledonians
>Decided to try and do a small challenge run
>Legendary difficulty, fight all battles and try not to lose any of them
>Drove WRE and Saxons out and unified Britannia
>At war with Danes and Jutes who swallowed up Geats, Franks and Saxons
>Spent the past 8 years slowly colonising Northern Gaul whilst keeping a close eye on the former Frankish capital where the Danes and Jutes have been amassing their armies
>Both sides heavily entrenched so neither wants to try and cross the sea and attack the other

Shit is intense. They have the numbers so i don't want to attack and risk losing a battle. Currently just building up my economy so that i can afford to raise more armies. Maybe the Huns will attack their rear once Attila comes of age in a few years.
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>>161813170
>If quarrelers can't trade at least decently with wood elf archers dwarfs are going to be completely fucked when facing against them
Considering the top tier wood elf great sword unit died under one volley of shitty hellfire rockets I think the dwarfs are going to have no issue dealing with them

You're obviously a concerned dwarf player so let me educate you on your own faction
Build 1; lots of arty, lots of cheap high moral infantry. Use arty to kill ranged units before they even get in range and use infantry to protect and overwhelm elves forces once they get in range
Build 2; counter to woodkin spam; flame cannons and irondrakes
Idiot dwarf player build; bring ranged units and try to out range the best ranged faction in the game

You're welcome.
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>>161813069
>Total War: Neanderthal
>resist waves of Homo Sapiens invaders HOMO lmao
>invent simple weapons and shit
>fight to capture other tribes fire/women
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>>161812212
If they do pike and shot, we might get them if we're really lucky
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>>161813459
You really went with the idea of a "fortress in the british isles"
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>>161813521
>neanderthal vs sapiens meme

/pol/ get out.
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>>161808487
My favourite as well. Never played vanilla though but I'm still trying to find or make the perfect mod. Imperial destroyer comes close.

I didn't mind single region France because it had so many towns. And each town was a battle map.
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>>161813392
Wood elves have high tier archers with stalk and ranged lords/heroes, I can't see them not being able to take out artillery reasonably well
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>>161813581
???????
neanderthals and homo sapiens met and competed for living space
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>>161813625
Yes anon its called forcing your enemies hand in order to gain the advantage of predictability to counter his forces

He has to attack your arty or he loses his ranged units, which means you can preemptively prepare for that attack and counter attack on your own stopping him

The thing NOT to do is fight the enemy in the style he wants, which is sit back and obliterate all your forces with skirmishing archers.
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>>161813586
>Imperial destroyer
never tried that one, I have played with Imperial Splendor and Darthmod in the past and I am now playing with the Minor Factions Revenge mod

Darthmod
>still has ancient as fuck bugs
>cancerous star wars shit that can luckily be removed
>"fixes" AI by giving all units huge range which actually makes the game even easier
Imperial Splendor
>some really neat ideas (if you have a revolution as the French you actually get unique units, just like the monarchists do)
>loads of units
>good balance and quality assets
>the absolute worst lightning known to man, they fell for the bleak=mature meme
>still very unfinished

why is there no fun mod for empire that is actually finished?
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CA please do diverse East Asia
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>>161813908
zzzzzzz
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>>161813642
Does anyone in Europe, which has a population of 200 million or thereabouts, compete for living space? The hominid population of Pleistocene Europe was maybe not even 1,000. Use your fucking brain retard.
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>>161813725
That will depend on the map as well, heavily forested or hilly maps will be hard to use artillery in.
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>>161813441

>the streams and gameplay videos

Then you won't have trouble posting screenshots.
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>>161813908
They are just standing there...
MENACINGLY
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>>161810381
My only concern is if they go full fantasy-china which seems to be the main stream there. I don't want one Chinese general fending off 100 men and saving the day.
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>>161814012
Is this some reference
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>>161813995
>Europe, which has a population of 200 million
What are you smoking
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>>161814000

You know forests block skirmisher fire too, right?

Wood Elves are fucking in heavily wooded maps.
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>>161814139
p-please be in London
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>>161814039
Well, they already established that precedent with Warhammer

But if you want to go back in time they did that with the jedi generals of M1 and S1
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>>161811662
I see it as a filler in between another history game. CA did say they were working on 2 history projects I believe.

Think of it like shogun 2 where they cover All the history in a single game with DLC for different periods.
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>>161814174
/fit/ pls
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>>161811725
In would like to refund this meme
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>>161813783
forgot to mention the fact that most mods add fucking disgusting extra music into the game, holy shit modders are incredibly plebian, at least darthmod mostly added shit like lacrimosa that is kinda acceptable, but hearing crap like two steps from hell on the campaign map is incredibly annoying

its like med2 mods adding fucking prince of persia music into the game
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>>161814172
If both dwarf and wood elf skirmisher fire is equally affected by being in a forest, for the dwarf strategy which relies on you being able to use artillery in order to have an advantage, that just ends up favouring the wood elves in your scenario where wood elf archers beat dwarf skirmishers handily.
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>>161814001
just because your retarded ass is too lazy to actually have watched or go have a look now doesnt mean I should spoonfeed you
Now let the grownups keep talking, alright?
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>>161813995
This guy
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>>161814357

So that's a "No" then?

Thought so.
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>>161814439
Instead of helping the unfolding situation of the general I will make sure to run it into the ground
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>>161814172
>Wood Elves are fucking in heavily wooded maps
Whoa there, just because they are elves doesnt mean they dont shave down under
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>>161814001
>asks for source
>gets the source
>n-no, y-y-you go get the content f-for me..!
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>>161814514
medieval 1, right?
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>>161814473
How fucking dense are you
I'm not going to go screencap a bunch of things for you when you ought to be able to go have a look for yourself
The stream from last wednesday has a chunk of it
now go look or fucking kill yourself you entitled little faggot
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>>161814531
>>161814605

It's nowhere in the youtube videos and I just spent 10 minutes skimming the stream and found diddly.

You're gonna have to do better.
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>>161814540
>>161814334
>>161813908
>>161811493
What movie is this?
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>>161814540
Rome 2 x Warhammer crossover when
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>>161814736
>his face at the end
>'is this really the fucking movie im in'
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>>161814439
I wish med2 wasn't so unstable, I had a lot of fun with it, but both SS and Bellum Crucis crash regularly
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If you were going to fight Wood Elves in standard mp, what would be the best army for dwarfs?

The things Dwarfs bring in the current meta seem so inappropriate it is hard for me to get a good idea for it. There's no danger of being outranged by enemy artillery, and they'll likely have flyers/cavalry, so a bolt thrower seems a sure pick. I can't decide if adding a grudge thrower or another bolt thrower would be overcommitting to artillery, but it'd suck to get your only tool for forcing the NEETs to commit taken out by a waystalker.

Slayers seem like a big liability, but i'm not sure what another useful counter is to Treekin/Treemen. The Grumbling Guard have almost been an autopick lately, but i'm not sure about them in a match where fatigue resist and armor-penetration don't seem very valuable. Still, they could help bring down the bigger forest spirits and perhaps the enemy lord.

What does /twg/ think of this army?
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>>161814736
>>161814703
That's 2 movies and 1 TV series

Dragon Blade

The Admiral: Roaring Currents

Don't know the TV series
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>>161810968
DELETE THIS
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>>161814832
Bringing either a flame cannon or some irondrakes seems like a good idea for dealing with the tree spirits.
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>>161813783
Imperial splendor adds warpath to the grand campaign and many other new regions. Good flags and Napoleon graphics, new religions and factions and so on. Makes the fantastic campaign map even better. Battles are where it suffers. All fire drills removed grenades removed can't dismount cavalry a lot of arty gone. Its balanced well and its fun but lackluster. All for the sake of historical accuracy.

I might try to mod it back in myself but I don't know what I'm doing. It'd be the perfect mod if not for that.
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>>161814832
Flame cannons and irondrakes might actually be worth it given that there's nothing the wood elves can field that has high armour, and their tough units all have weakness to fire
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>>161814832
bolt throwers are worthless
grudge throwers are next to worthless
vanilla cannons are good.

meta calls for thane spam
gyrocopters are garbage against others with skirmishers.

So one cannon to outrange/force enemy to engage, quarrelers to skirmish. Hold the line with vanilla dorf warriors backed up by a few longbeards and thanes and probably a runesmith.

That's it.
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>>161814761
Fun fact, that was Brody looking to the director in confusion.
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>>161814832

Maybe we'll know once we actually know what their magic does, how good it has and have stats for at least half of their fucking units.
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>>161814843
>That one guy who kills two soldiers with one arrow
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r8 this großgermania
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>>161815015
Spells

Smoke & Mirrors (Augment)
Map wide speed boost for friendly troops

Melkoth’s Mystifying Miasma (Direct Damage)
Strong vs multiple combatants, slows movement speed

The Enfeebling Foe (Hex)
Reduces target’s melee attack and melee defence

The Withering: (Hex)
Reduces target’s armour and leadership

The Penumbral Pendulum (Direct damage – wind)
Magical damage, large area of effect, strong vs multiple units

Pit of Shades (Vortex)
Magical damage, large explosion area, strong vs multiple units, disrupts units

Okkam’s Mindrazor (Augment)
Imbues bonus magical damage and bonus armour-piercing damage

__________


Spells
Lifebloom (Augment)
Replenishes hit points of friendly combatants map-wide whenever a Life spell is cast

Awakening of The Wood (Explosion)
Magical damage, large explosion area, reduces target’s speed

Flesh To Stone (Augment)
Improves armour of friendly targets

Shield of Thorns (Augment)
Area-effect, improves missile parry and weapon damage of friendly combatants

Regrowth (Augment)
Replenishes hit-points of friendly target combatants & Physical Resistance


Earth Blood (Augment)
Area effect, replenishes hit-points of friendly combatants

The Dwellers Below (Direct Damage)
Large explosion area, strong vs multiple combatants, reduces target speed, severe damage, chance to resist
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>>161814940
>>161814927
Irondrakes might be worth it now that they fire faster, but it makes the army weaker to just getting rushed by a bunch of dryads/wardancers because of an anemic melee line. Still worth thinking about.

Flame cannons will eternally be a meme, though. Just enough enough time to fire with that range, especially against such a fast army. A grudge thrower would almost certainly get more kills for cheaper.
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>>161815039
[LELFING INTENSIFIES]
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>>161815107
>
>
>
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>>161815107
imperfectbordershape/10. Go grab that settlement off the russians and we'll talk.
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>>161814736
What the actual fuck were the chinks thinking
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>>161815107
>1100 fucking turns
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>>161814634
>I didn't bother having an actual look so I must be in the right
The stream, Anon.
Do you know how to go watch old streams, Anon?
Here let me help you.
Go on twitch.tv
Are you getting this?
Alright. On twitch, go find Total war's channel.
On this channel you can watch previous broadcasts.
Still with us?
In these "preeveeouus broooadcaaasts" you can find a stream that was b r o a d c a s t last wednesday.
You do know what wednesday is, Anon?
No?
Wednesday is the third day of the week, Anon.
You know what wednesday is now? Good.
In this "previous broadcast" from last wednesday you can see Dogbert play the wood elves.
Now, I know this part might be hard to understand, but..
Dogbert isn't actually a real dog. I know it can be confusing, but he is just a man.
If you bothered to actually watch this part of the stream, you could see unit stats when his mouse passes over them.
And no, the "mouse" is not an actual mouse. It is just a name for the device connected to your "personal computer" that helps you operate this "personal computer".
This must all be very disorienting for you but I hope you can power through.
Don't work yourself too hard though, you might get a headache.
That's when your head hurts.
That's when your thinker goes "owch! owchie owee, im going to need a bandaid mommy"
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>>161815249
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>>161815246
Real life a shit, gotta toss in fantasy elements

Besides I liked the movie

Then again I'm Chinese
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>>161814937
Imperial Destroyer*

Fuck I'm tired. Music Is good too.
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>>161815269
>Dogbert isn't a dog
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>>161814976
What role thanes have against Wood Elves? They don't have any melee hero who can take a potion themselves, and if you can catch them in melee it seems like you already win without the hero spam.

Gyrocopters, especially steam ones, are pretty good at ruining enemy skirmishers that have no armor and poor penetration. They ruin Ungors or Night Goblins, and seem like they'd do great against glade guard/ glade riders as well. If they are really outclassed you have the Quarreler line to hide behind, though.
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>>161815269
Thank you for making my day anon
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>>161814832
>Total War
>Multiplayer
>>
anybody got some leftover grombrindal codes for anon ?
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>>161815542
Heroes with potions have the role of being by far the most cost effective melee packages available, plain and simple.

Also the encouragement.
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>>161815667
runesmiths are way more useful in general than thanes though
>>
best army comp for shogun 2, and how do you guys get past the initial grind where everything is the same
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>>161813441
>Wood Elves are fucked
Because of arty? VC don't have arty
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>>161815308
S'cool man. Just wished it was a tad more "authentic" for lack of a better word. Not like medieval films are any better i suppose.
>>
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>>161815139

That's all abstract and completely useless until we have actual numbers.

We don't how much damage the damage spells do, we don't know how much the healing spells heal. We don't know how much the buffs buff.

That's all pretty relevant.
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>>161815791
Yes, Wood Elves possibly doing ok against one faction has them covered
Thing is, with Empire being the way it is already, they're doomed
This of course is speculation
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>>161815835
sauce
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>>161815712
they're more expensive and provide like 60% less health. The rune buffs do not make up for that equation. It's okay to have one though.

>>161815817
Yeah I know, just saw an opportunity to post it.
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>>161815914
Still Dragon Blade anon
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>>161815817
They are mostly listed on the streams actually if you'd pause like an autist.
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>>161815861

I think the wood elves will be decent, they're gonna dominate the sky for sure. And with the lore of life they have some staying power.

Of course the empire also getting the lore of life will make them stupidly strong most likely, but eh. We'll see.
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>>161814937
>Fire by rank removed

Good.
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>>161815985

>They are mostly listed on the streams

Only the buffs have actual numbers on them and we haven't even seen all of those.

The spell descriptions don't list numbers for healing or damage spells.
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>>161815957
fair point, i think it depends whether you use thorgrim or a runelord
if u use throgrim i think 2 runesmiths is the way to go, but with the runelord one runesmith and a thane might be better
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>>161815861
>they're doomed
what just because of empire? feel like theirs something i'm missing here.
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>>161815985
Don't use that word, I happen to have this condition
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>>161816176
pretty cool webm
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>>161816176
now do Achilles and Hector from Troy
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>>161816176
poz?
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>>161816173
im multiplayer anyway
Campaign will be a breeze
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poz me
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>>161816558
I don't have the source

>>161816567
What?
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>>161816646
What patch changes do you think we might get?
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>>161816694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai7sTP6-jrw
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>>161816810
Cool, guess I'll work on it but I'll need a meme title.
>>
Playing ERE on memendary, looking good so far.
Question is, do I go for the meme play and only give Palatina units to my emperor (and maybe heir/family members) and have all my other dudes wank around with comitatenses armies?
Won't that make me get memed in the late game?
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>>161816776
The usual, chaos buffs. Maybe some Empire nerfs and flying unit nerfs at least
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>>161816996
Think the beastie boys will receive any tune ups as they'll be a prominent feature of the wood elves campaigns.
Buffs to the razorshits maybe?
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>>161772950
>The fucking emperor decides who's christian and who isn't.
But that's Eastern Orthodoxy!
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>>161816646
>in multiplayer anyway
how so? is it only against empire or are they bad vs all other factions?
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>>161811695

I would even pay for some sweet Ottoman,Cossacks DLC
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>>161777117
>I wonder what would their racial gimmick be.
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>>161817442
Just going off current power level of the factions.
You pick what you want to play in multiplayer. Empire is the strongest so most people play empire.
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>>161804292
rollan for after work
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>>161817584

karl franz really isn't god tier, high tier at most
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>>161816969
why would you even do that
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>>161817584
Khazrak shouldn't be that low, spamming minotaurs is fun as shit. Malagor can stay down there though, his start position is rubbish.
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>>161817898
He is really very good at smashing the AI and it's obvious that of the Empire options he stands out ridiculously far ahead.

Azhag deserves to be moved up once, as does sigvald

Ungrim down.
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>>161810039
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>>161817584

Just started playing with the steel faith overhaul mod

Anybody knows a tier estimate of how good the lords are in the mod?
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>>161815269
>You will never play Strip-Total War with Grace.
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>>161810968
>>
Mass human wave assaults when
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What do you think the next Total War will be?
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>there are people RIGHT NOW that do not complete at least short campaign victory conditions
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>>161814843
>throwing bolas at a shield wall
>perfectly goes around soldiers necks and strangulate them

Actual historical content.
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>>161817584
What tier do you guys think the Wood Elf Legendary Lords will be?

I'm thinking Durthu is going to be complete shit, but and Orion is going to be high tier.
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>>161818325
In my experience the SCV and LCVs are near-identical, which means completing the former gets you so close to the latter you might as well do that too.
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>>161818325
I set my own objectives.
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>>161813995
>Does anyone in Europe compete for living space?
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>>161818467
Most of them are pretty identical, like the stunties.
For the 'evil' factions they can be vastly different though.

Big difference between genocide Empire and genocide Empire AND stunties.
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>>161818265
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>>161818250
>tfw I will never be a cool knight with a picture of myself on my tabard
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>>161818749
>ywn pick up cute ladies with ur duck helm
why even live
>>
Reminder that fire arrows are impractical and shouldn't be an option for all of your ranged units to just instantly switch to.
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>>161818818
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>Start a Legendary IA Iceni campaign.
>Quit after the first couple of conquests.
>Start a Legendary Picts Attila campaign.
>Quit immediately after migrating to Spain.

I just want to play Wood Elves and Morghur campaigns... Nothing can get rid of this feeling.
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>>161819084
m2 end of times
And I am not being ironic
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>>161818891
I always disliked the fact that Attila had four different ammo types that could be swapped on the fly.
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Why do all your units die when you cycle charge in Attila?

Every time i rear charge an enemy and pull out my cav just melt.
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>>161806739
Yes
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>>161819285
Because they aren't defending themselves while turning around.
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>>161784257
Sounds interesting
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>>161819480
Is the best tactic to just commit to all charges then?
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>>161818417

>Durthu
>shit

Dude does magical and AP damage, has a fuck ton of armor and HP, frenzy, encourage, causes fear and terror and has lore of beast. Also his army is immune to all attrition. So I think he might be the best out of the gate lord.

But both will be stronk as fuck.
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>>161819285
you need to cycle charge with high mass cavalry, or pull them out right after they hit, otherwise the enemy has enough time to turn around and butchers them
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>>161819510
Cycle charges only really make sense with shock cav or good melee cav, as they usually have good health and armor and won't melt in the process.
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>>161819516
He's going to have weakness to fire though. Wonder how vulnerable he will be to fire-buffed troops.
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>>161819285
Attila ramps up the damage when a unit is being hit in the flank. Trying to cycle charge means the entire unit turns around whilst they're being attacked which just gets half of them killed. You either need to use super heavy cavalry to tank the hits or you need to hit hard enough to break the target on the charge. Get out of the practice of cycle charging because it hurts more than it helps.

There's a reason Taghmata Cavalry were so broken for so long. They could stand and fight after a solid charge unlike most other cavalry.
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>>161818417
>>161819516
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>>161819192
They're also incredibly useless most of the time, the only thing I occasionally switch to is heavy shot.
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>>161819902
Wonder if Durthu can get as much ward save
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>>161819191
I have tried it back during its original release, but the battles were so clunky it was really dull to play. Has the mod seen much updating?

Also recommendations for a faction?
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>>161819902
Kholek moves faster than most cavalry and is fat as shit on the charge. That kind of makes up for the rest of his stats but Durthu is still a blatant case of power creep.
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>>161819996
Doesn't he come with a 20% damage reduction built-in for being a forest spirit?

I think they said that was the case for the forest dragon in the latest video.
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>>161819996

Doubt it, but he has the 20% damage resistance the forest spirits have. And more armour.

It's all up to his unqiue items/talents to see how good he is I suppose. Along with how they'll handle his attacks.
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>>161819902
>r
Dont forget the 20% ward save which means his actual HP is 7182
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>>161819902
>36 speed

I'm pretty sure Dwarfs will be able to outrun this guy.
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>>161820091
Still not updated
I only played Ogres since I wanted something different. They really are a powerhouse
>>
When are they going to include another Anglo civ like Finland?
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>>161820189
Lore of shadows buff on him to increase speed on the charge.

The fact he is basically a giant with ward save huge armor and hp means he can probably solo most early game armies.

That big spider skarsnik had basically wins early game on its own, now this niga got magic and even more HP/
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>>161819902
I started to post about how that doesnt look that bad since Durthu does less damage and is much slower so its a fair trade-off, but I forgot Durthu has lore of beasts and can spam flock of doom.

Even then, Kohlek has a pretty useful damage ability. They both look like strong lords desu
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>>161820353
>Anglo civ like Finland

What the fuck am I reading?
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>>161820091
didn't they update to 1.01?
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>>161820518
Finns are anglo son.
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>>161820592
Haha, no.
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>>161820623
we mongo
unga bongo
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>>161820718
They're fucking Finno-Ugric
>>
Ethnically anglo.
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>>161820810
fuck off with your lies and slander you filthy snow nigger, Finns are pure anglo
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>>161820875
With a little bit of Saxon?
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>play a Bloody Handz run with Steel Faith Overhaul
>on Hard because the mod page recommends this to prevent Dwarfs from becoming dominant due to inbalance
>it's easy as fuck because I'm used to playing VH/L and I'm at the stage now where I'm just waiting for Chaos to plough through the Empire so I can take them out

Oh well, guess I'll just have to make a new campaign on VH and see if they were right.
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>>161821109
What a cute fucking dog.
I didn't even read your post.
Dogs are bros.
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>>161821245
i don't care much for mutts
purebred doggos only pls
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>>161817584

Is the balance really so bad or memes?

This makes me sad, I wanted to play golden mask boy.
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>>161821356
Sorry bud
Not only are wizard LLs bad in general, Bane has the worst magic lore in the game - metal
it's pure shit
>>
>>161818262
Source?
Seeems relevant to my interest.
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>>161821356
Just mod them. Unless you are talking about MP that is.
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>>161821356
Every single lord is viable.

Some just have better starting units, Azhag is actually a great lord when he has lore of death and Skullmuncha. You can do some really good fear armies with Azhag, it is just he has poor starting units.

Gelt is a bit shit, and so is Kemmler but they are still viable and Gelt gets decent starting units.
>>
FINNS ARE ANGLO

THEY LEAD SCANDANIVA IN MEME PRODUCTION
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>>161819371
Also worth mentioning that Medieval is a wargame, not a gsg lite or whatever. You're either at war, allied, or neutral.
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>>161821292

>i like genetically ruined inbred dogs

What a terrible opinion.
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>>161821559
>Scandinavia
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>>161820875
>>161820906

Not sure if I'm being meme'd on here or you really are that stupid
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>>161821502
Red Cliff
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>>161822052
you're being memed son
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>>161822195
Oh, I've actually already seen that one.

thanks anyway.
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/vg/L game starting vs /aog/.

hitbox.tv/the4ch
anc
up

Karl Franz will be on the pitch.
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OFFICIAL /TWG/ TOTAL WAR GAMES POWER RANKINGS* (As of 12/4/2016) (Stand alone titles only) (All patches and mods taken into consideration)

1. Medieval 1 and VI
2. Napoleon
3. Rome 1 and BI
4. Medieval 2 & Kingdoms
5. Shogun 2
6. Attila
7. Shogun 2 FotS
8. Empire
9. Rome 2
10. Rome Alexander
11. Warhammer

*All rankings are final, any post of power rankings that follow this official list should be deemed unofficial and not representative of /twg/ and its community
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>>161822578
Been a while.
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>>161822578
what does med1 have that 2 doesn't? legit question
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>>161822423
>half the team meme names irrelevant

/twg/ is dead.
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>>161813459
Well that went to shit. Ollam Ri got assassinated and my old faction leader died of old age which left the rulership to his 19 year old shit for brains son that had a gambling problem. He didn't have the influence and authority to keep the other veteran nobles in check. Civil war broke out which allowed the Vikings to invade Britannia.

Rollan for a new campaign

1-2 Antean migration campaign
3-4 Make Africa great again as Vandals
5-6 Cuck the world as Garamantia
7-8 Become the jews of Scandinavia as the Jutes
9-0 Fight the good fight against ERE as the Tanukhids
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>>161822687
It works
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>>161822423

Why not use twitch you fucking hipsters I'm not making another account just to comment
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>>161822881
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>>161822687
It has those titles on the maps that can be handed to generals
>>
>>161822687
Working pikemen and guns, dismounting cavalry before offensive battles, not shit campaign map, better AI, more responsive units while not being full arcade mode, great atmosphere and details like named officers for every unit that can be given titles and made general, picking which side of a civil war you want to play as. Only thing it's missing from M2 is elephants iirc.
>>
>>161822943
The Twitch stream got banned because in the actual Cup /i/ had a player who broke Twitch ToS (Nudity) and /pol/'s pitch had a giant swastika on it
>>
FUCKING PONTUS
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>>161822052
>Not sure if I'm being meme'd on here or you really are that stupid

right back at you fampai
>>
BUT
>>
BUT
>>
PONTUS
PONTUS
PONTUS
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>>161822423
They should be wearing EB boxers.
>>
>>161770863
What's the filter?
>>
BUT NOW I WANNA PLAY AS PONTUS
>>
Why are they playing on a GroBgermanium map from vic2
>>
>The referee is literally Karl Franz

What the fuck
>>
Did CA finally announce Pontus for Warhammer?
>>
>>161823413
PRINCE AND EMPEROR
>>
>>161823413
Reeeeee fucking Warhammer newfags GET OUT OF MY GENERAL
>>
NA
POO
PAN
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>>161823413
>>
GREATEST COMMANDER OF ALL TIME
>>
N A P P Y
A
P
P
Y
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>>161823413
SUMMON THE ELECTRO COUNTS
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>>161823413
THAT TACKLE DID NOT HAVE MY CONSENT FOUL
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>>161822867
>dropping the campaign just because it went bad
you should persevere, they are the best kind
>>
this is gonna be a close game
>>
How's Monsieur Antiochus doing?
>>
What FOTS faction should I do a Republic run with?
>>
>>161823746
Nah, it's a challenge run. One loss and i'm out.
>>
FUCKING PONTUS SAVING THE DAY BY GETTING FUCKED
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>>161823846
Jack shit
Napoopan is doing all the work
>>
>>161823878
Aizu.
>>
>NAPOLEONIC TWELVE POUNDER ACROSS THE FIELD
>>
NAPOOPAN
A
P
O
O
P
A
N
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Anyone got Attila faction roll
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>>161823846
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>>161824032
>>
who just scored the goal? player wise
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>>161824169
>sassynids
Aren't they baby tier?
>>
>>161824169
roll for pontus
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>>161824231
Not in FotE
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>>161824231
Well, the gods have spoken.
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>>161824229

Pontus, Napoopan x2 and Antiochus
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TÜRK
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>>161824143
I'll never get tired of Seleucid Holiday memes

In fact all Antiochus memes for that matter.
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>>161824332
>32
>31
>32
Am I being memed
>>
ALRIGHT
>>
>Take it easy has an actual ingame model
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>>161824229
Antiochus AKA Monsieur Antiochus AKA FUCKING ANTIOCHUS
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Can someone replace part of this bee with Antiochus pls?

I have a meme idea
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>mfw when /twg/ wins the cup twice in a row
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>>161824519
>It's not Marisa
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>>161824553
>winning with a bunch of memes most people in the general nowadays don't even understand
>>
FUCKING PONTUS
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B E S T G I R L
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>>161824654
Muh Historical.
>>
/aog/ annexted to the /twg/ imperium
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>>161824776
Muh Memehammer.
>>
>>161824654
Don't worry anon. I am always here.
>>
>>161824654
I asked for roster suggestions and got a bunch. I didn't have the time to run a roster poll because of University work and the co-manager is working two jobs so had to resign too.

New players added were
Advisor-chan
G O B L I N S (silver)
DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
AHHHHHHHHH
Atilla the TÜRK

Next time I'll run an actual poll.
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>>161823878
tsu
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what the hell is /hanny/
>>
FUCK YOU THIS IS THE OFFICIAL THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67bZGL3hMnI
>>
Our goals/highlights are here
>>161823442
>>161823786
>>161824187
>>161824489
>>161824975
>>
>>161825120
bring back EB memes and unit collision
>>
>>161825120
Problem is /twg/ has pretty random traffic, most the time there's barely 4 or 5 on, other times there could be 20+. Probably worth running a poll around a big release.
>>
>>161825219

MUH THUNKA
>>
what was the name of our victory theme? i'm trying to find it so I can listen to it again.
>>
>>161825373

Roma Invicta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YemA9nE0CEY
>>
Empire and Greenskin technology tree is so fucking boring. Every other race has a better tech tree.
>>
>>161825276
>not liking tasteful thunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtYCe7ZD5eo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0poHNBb8DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sf0C-0YonU
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>>161825219

>Going home
>As opposed to never conquered

M2fags losers to the end
>>
>>161825436
They shouldn't have bothered with tech trees in the first place for a setting where the tech level stays the same.
>>
>Ranald is with you!
>Magic increases by 1 point

Amazing.
>>
>>161825531
Hey, fuck you leatherman!
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>>161825373
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//twg/

This is our music. Our old manager who stepped down mixed some audio from Shogun I with music. Also we have a custom horn for when we play /domg/ which is just the audio from Rome I of Elephants mixed with the word TRIARII.
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>>161825260
>128 unique IPs
>>
>>161825643
half of those are mobileposting
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>>161825593


Fuckyou
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>>161825573
even better

>Ronald is with you!
>it's the same
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We need someone to model the new players, everyone had a fucking card on top
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>>161825740
>implying
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guys I think we can all get along
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>>161826063
staged political screenshot
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>>161825806
Sorry about that, I can't work blender and PES no longer has an in game editor that allows me to do something like pic related. I provided ~20 images to use for players so we didn't play with generic/meme heads and I recently got Tomb Kings a face which is just a skull texture on a head.

We're getting the Karl Franz model that was used as a referee and hopefully a geisha model from Shogun 2.
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>>161825740
https://video-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t43.1792-2/15256910_1313807318690119_3150256540502458368_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjE1MDAsInJsYSI6MTAyNCwidmVuY29kZV90YWciOiJzdmVfaGQifQ%3D%3D&rl=1500&vabr=600&oh=055d31e86ce379bbb26e085bd98fe74a&oe=584491CA
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>>161822867
Rerollan. Got sandwiched by Geats and Angles on turn 2.
>>
Am i the only one who hasnt pre-ordered WE yet?
I usually buy DLC at the last minute, because i feel like CA will get lazy if i buy it right away
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>>161826198
Pontus is best girl.
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>>161826204
Quality animation

Bravo Bioware
>>
>>161826198
If you find a way to contact meloncat he has access to UU3D which can be used to rip faces from every warscape game.
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>>161825740
ELVES
L
V
E
S
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>>161826290
I haven't preordered it because I refuse to buy $20 DLC for an unfinished game. CA is going to sell it all for pocket change in a few years anyways.
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>>161826625

She looks cute as fuck

BUT WHERE'S MY FUCKING MIXED UNITS
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>>161825258
EB memes?
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>>161826869
>BUT WHERE'S MY FUCKING MIXED UNITS

I don't have any strong feelings on this one way or the other, but why does this matter exactly?
>>
>>161826908
>>161825120
I'd like to see Officially Licensed Europa Barbarorum Action Briefs™ as a player.

Maybe replace their head with a pair of undergarments.

>>161827050
It fits the tabletop more.
>>
>>161826869
Thats dumb. Having one single unit be decent at everything instead of 2 units that can split to hit their more favorable trades. Even then hard group 2 units in 1 blob and you achieve what you want anyway but with the flexibility mentioned above. Plus how can the game tell if the anti-large model or the anti-infantry model hits.
>>
>>161826473

If this was an RPG were you're standing up close to all of this shit, I'd agree.

I can't find but pretend I posted that webm of the Andromeda girl taking the Turians gun away.
>>
>>161827050

Wood elf units are literally all mixed except for the bitches I forgot the name of which are all female
>>
>Karl Franz is still the referee

BY SIGMAR NO
>>
>>161827219

You shut your whore mouth 'bout my wardancers!
>>
Let's use our imaginations and pretend GW didn't blow up the Warhammer world.

What would have happened had Chaos not had plot armor? What would the state of the world be in right now?
>>
>>161827543
It would be the same, that's the point, no race can "win" because this would mean other would be eradicated
>>
>>161827543
>What would have happened had Chaos not had plot armor?
Rekt by Grimgor
>>
>>161826198

Can we actually get Karl as a player?
>>
>>161827891
He's down as DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT, who will be getting the model when we do.
>>
Reminder that Nagash was a Bitch
>>
I am getting tired of people not posting their campaigns
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>>161828805

Well maybe people are waiting for the Elves to drop before playing the grand campaign. I know I am.
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>>161826625
>more blondes
why are they making all the elves blonde
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>>161828805
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So, will the sequel be 40,000?

I don't know anything about it or if it works as a total war game, just that it's the futuristic version of warhammer. Mite b cool.
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salut
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>>161829228

no its gonna be Total War Warcraft
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Is there a wood elf unit roster somewhere?
Wikis are fucking shit and empty.

I need it cause I'm the lore autist reading the army books and I want to know which units are not included so I can skip them.
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>>161829457
The steam store page has them.
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Are composite bows really stronger than longbows?
How much harder to draw are they?
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>>161779672
...how? i need to know for reasons
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>faction leader dies
>new faction leader doesn't inherit his sweet hat

WHY
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>>161829504

Thanks, didn't think to look there.
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>>161827709
Grimgor literally ended up there because of plot armor and even then managed to achieve jack shit
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>>161829613
What a shame
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>>161828805
I am about to start a Gondor Third Age MOS campaign if you want me to post it for you bby
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>>161828805
playing this till elfs
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>>161830117
Yes please, sugar
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>>161830162
>tfw waiting for the full release
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>>161815139
this is the shittiest translation of spells from the TT yet, real shit job CA
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>>161830162
What is that?
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>>161826674
>Rome II £29.00 not even with Attila
>'pocket change'

Gonna be a long wait, even in sales it's minimum £15. The DLCs will only ever be 40% off so it's £3 instead of £7 and that could be 3-5 years on.
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>>161830359
battle brothers, you run a free company
6 of those guys are dead now
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>>161826869
that would cost even more charlemagnes than jabberslythe, its impossible and has literally never been done before
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>>161830272

What is wrong?
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After WELFS who is gonna be next?
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>>161830225
Alright I'll start posting in the next thread
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>>161815146
>that historically accurate archery

why the fuck can't the west accurately portray martial arts?
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>>161830548
I read that in a goblin voice
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>>161830548
Bretonnia
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>>161828805
2 people have been posting their campaigns and I posted a few screens as well, it could have been worse anon
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>>161828948
most of the wood elves have blonde, white, and brown hair. guessing they do that for ease
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>>161830117
>he fell for the MOS meme

it's shit.
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>>161830846
>it's shit
Why?
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>>161830846
I wouldn't know, I haven't played third age a lot. I just played one, hundred turn Eriador campaign and decided it was too easy.
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>>161830510
>Smoke and mirrors is a fucking map wide speed boost instead of the TT ability to switch positions with units on a cast. A TELEPORT
>Okkam's Mindrazor doesn't vonvert leadership to strength like in TT, another interesting spell gentrified by their stupid models.
>The dwellers below not calculating damage off of strength modifier
>Obviously bad magic system made worse with their lack of care
>All hope fans had for a good translation dashed
>proof that they arent taking the complaints into account or just dont care
>gelt and kemmler BTFO

there is no excuse, those who say otherwise are defending for no reason.
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>>161831015
I'm really hoping they do a massive overhaul of the magic system at some point. I can forgive them if they eventually make it not shit but as it stands CA have really been doing a piss poor job on it.

Like the tools and stats are there, it really shouldn't be this hard implement some of this stuff.
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>>161831212
but muh mp balance
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>>161831015
CA are the progenitors of /his/faggotry in video games, so it's no wonder that they should hate fun.
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>>161831309
ninjahund go away
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new THREAD
>>161831410
>>161831410
>>161831410
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>>161831212
honestly. Everything they need is there but they still refuse and I don't know why. As it currently stands there is close to no reason to take any other wizard besides the light wizard for Empire. If they had but one utility each it would be fine but they are virtually all the same.
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In Total War gameplay, not in the actual show, is there any way Stannis could have won this?
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>>161831551
hardly
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Any mods that add more banners and marks?
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>>161831309
I hate this so much

Yes lets make everything bland and cookie cutter because "Mah balance"

Because lord knows it's impossible to come up with tactics to deal with anything these days, that might require thinking and creativity.

Don't get me wrong, some things are broken or bullshit like launch day devolve. But it just sucks they're barely trying to make things work differently.
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>>161831551
With daenerys and tyrion stick to him.
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>>161831551
should have spammed skirmishers, pikes and stayed in the woods
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>>161832023
>the current year
>expecting effort from a dev with a fanbase that laps up everything thats thrown at them
even when they spam negative reviews for DLC they still bought the fucking thing
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>>161784931
What do they mean by this?
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