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I wanna marry the Zweihander! edition
Burned in the flame of the fire>>161717932
>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Hey OP come and caress my balls.
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>>161769939
Make me
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Yo, I want some ball caressing too you faggots
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BB is the best game in the souls series.

PC fags will get mad at this post.
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DaS3 is the culmination of From Software's love and care for the series and is the high point of the Soulsborne franchise.
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>>161769691
So they can only detect stuff like item switching/spawning and such?

I only looked at the CE table for Ds3 once, the one thing that stood out as pretty awesome was a thing to make drop rates 100% or something like that.
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Does the Morningstar work with the Leo Ring in DS1? The description says it inflicts Thrust damage, but Strike is the only type actually listed and I can't find anything on the wiki to confirm or deny this.
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youngest prince is p cute actually
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>>161770181
Anyone got the one of friede's face? She's really cute.
Post the painter girl one too.
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>>161770165
Descriptions say a lot of things.
>Black Knight weapons and Gundyr's halberd claim to deal more poise damage
>they do not
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>>161770114
For the most part, yea. Its mostly items you shouldnt have obtained in such a way that flags the system. Also have a name thats too long while online, and maybe a few other things that dont actually impact online play. The system itself doenst seem able to detect speed hacks, invulnerability hacks, cursing hacks, flying, or anything else that could actually ruin the experience for others through invasions.
Miyazaki needs to realize his game isnt worth playing through 15+ times
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Fourth for the new Fromsoft dark fantasy i.p announced at PSX
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>>161770181
Nah m8, he looks like Sarah Jessica Parker.
Fucking puking here.
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>>161770470
They actually do
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>>161770470
Actually, it's even more confusing than I thought. The stat page lists Strike in the Attack Type field, while the description page says Thrust. Who am I supposed to believe?
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>>161770472
Oh yeah I'm going to commit a crime.
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>>161770658
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Is there any anon that would be kind enough to tell me where I can download Dark Souls: Design Works?
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>>161770479
I like playing the PvE game many times, I just hate farming shit for hours on end for a particular piece of equipment I might not even want to use.
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>>161770646
Why don't you just go and hit some enemies to check?
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>>161770472
>>161770721
Why do people call her loli? She looks grown to me i'll admit her voice is a bit high pitched but eh.
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>>161770721
>She sees your dick.webm
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>>161770093
I can admit that it's better than 2 and 3, I dunno about it being better than dark souls or demon souls.
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Nintendo exclusive Zelda Souls when? Sick of all this grimderp shit with washed out colors.
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Am I edgy yet?
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>>161770546
They do not. It's a mistranslation referring to the fact that Champion's Charge and the unique BK attacks deal hard knockdown.
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>>161770946
That looks so bad it's pitiful.
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>>161770946
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>>161770946
Not with that goofy-ass face.
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>>161770972
I don't have the numbers for gundyr or bkg since I don't like the class, but the r2s, both 1 and 2h for the sword, greatsword and axe deal more poise damage than the other r2s in the same class
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>>161770921
Never hopefully. I hate Nintendo and there attempts at being family friendly, when they probably put hit on the Gameboy creator.
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>>161770946
Get a scythe
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Also, to that anon who recommended I just use a previous clean-character backup, doesnt that also trigger invalid data?
But if not, where could I get a clean file to trick the system with, if that would work?
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>>161771351
The warning will go away eventually if you're playing with a clean save or delete the affected one.
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Is executioners Greatsword a quality weapon?
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>>161769685
SUAIHANDERR
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>>161771530
Strongly STR leaning, but yeah. Its also shit.
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Is corvian greatknife good ?
how do I kill people with this thing
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what great hammer to pick for cleric on dark souls?
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>>161771526
Its a ban, not a warning.
Thats what my original question was, are bans forever?
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>>161770771
Looks like it is Strike damage. That's too bad, I hoped it'd have something going for it over the Mace besides its useless bleed. I love the look of it and it suits the character I'm intending to cosplay better, but I can't justify using something so blatantly inferior.
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What do I want to go for for a pyromancer build in DaS3 and what rings would I want?
And where can I acquire a semi-decent pyromancy at the earlier parts of the game?
I may do a strength build on the side again but the only weapon I liked was Fume UGS for pure damage and the moveset.
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>>161771530
str

its bad tho, heavy flamberge outclasses it and both of those arent good regardless - greatswords are quality weps (like everything else)
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>>161771675
You don't, its shit.
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>>161771741
It's fucking ds1, who cares what weapon does, you are just going for backstabs anyway
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>>161771741

The bleed on it is not useless. It's so good that you don't even need to upgrade the weapon if the enemy bleeds.
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>>161771772
Youd want Sage Ring+2, Witch's Ring, Great Swamp Ring (which you'd start with) and then some other ring. FaP, Life, Darkmoon, or Chloranthy Ring most likely.
Your first strongest Pyromancy would be Fire Orb, which can get you to Old Demon King right after Abyss Watchers, which would then get you Chaos Bed Visages, one of your best spells and one of the best spells in the game.
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Post underrated themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgIcULEEpgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIX_-AMuAhY
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>>161771675
guys ?
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>>161770093
I'm getting a PS4 soon, and it's going to be the first game I play probably.

If I don't like it, I'm going to shitpost in /bbg/ for a fucking eternity.
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>>161771993
I probably wont go NG++ to acquire any higher tier rings because I'm a lazy asshole. What stats should I shoot for by the way?
I was thinking of using the thrall handaxe for the ease of use plus dodge strafe it has to keep me alive with low vitality.
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>>161769685
Any major updates since release? Trying to convince myself to buy Ashes of Ariandel. Is it nice?
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>>161772059

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0wbnG9bwn0

Because no one heard it after their first playthrough.
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Any soundtrack recommendations based on the Soul games?
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>>161772086
Same here. Also gonna be absolutely fuming mad if my boss keks me on the payments so I can't get fuckboystation 4 before Christmas.
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>>161771904
Okay, after making mincemeat out of the Blighttown fatties with it I take back the useless comment. Still, I'd prefer to have the better direct damage of the Mace than a bleed effect on such a slow weapon.
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>>161772342
Like something you would listen to while playing the souls games?
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I'm going to marry Anri!
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Sony real fucking blew it with the PSX presentation, I would have considered getting PS4 in heartbeat if they were to remaster Demon Souls for the PS4 instead of the other games.
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>>161772419

The morning star is a good bleed weapon thanks to its poise damage. Unlike in the other games poise damage is actually important in DaS. It's great against the snakemen for example.
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>>161772059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D8akDrh0bg
>tfw second phase kicks in
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>>161772584
Hole required ahead
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>>161772669
>OCELOOOOOOOTTE
What did he mean by this?
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Looking for someone to hold my hand and walk me through the smoldering lake area.
Pass is dsg2349 at the Abandoned Tomb bonfire.
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>>161772570
No, just soundtracks that sound similar.
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>>161772059
This fight always makes me feel bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MbtEecMTXU
>that part where he tries a last ditch effort and after it fails he just kinda falls down weak as fuck
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>invading in smouldering lake
>90% of hosts are loners
>most of them are scared shitless
This is adorable.
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I want to cosplay as a drakeblood knight wielding the drakeblood great sword will I have a good time?
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>>161772952
>Get invaded in smouldering lake
>Enter boss gate and then quit out after invader is sent home
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>>161772665
The presentation just showed me I have no reason to buy a PS4 pro or have any reason to give a fuck about PSN.
My plan is to get a regular PS4, maybe even a used one since the dumb cucks are selling perfectly fine PS4's to buy pro.

I'll use my PC for any new releases and just use the PS4 for any exclusives I really wanna play.
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>>161772862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKxjjsMSY8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyDenh9M118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YVIb9lH4Do
Fable soundtrack was so good but it doesn't really have the chanting stuff.
I'm really biased because i absolutely adore this game
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>>161771686
>No repsonses
Dont do this to me anons
Just give me the truth: Am I banned forever?
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>>161773213
Just family share, fag. That's what everyone does.
People have been banned before and the banned was lifted after some time. Who knows how much time it takes.
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>>161772837
Nobody? This is my second time going through the area. Would like to have a guide, shits spooky. Can also dried finger to spice things up if ya want a challenge.
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>>161772931
The Old Demon King did nothing wrong
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>>161772931
The whole fate of the chaos demons was really sad.
>created as a side effect of an experiment with a flame gone wrong
>just mad as fuck at everything because of how butt ugly they are
>chaos flame turned out to be way stronger than the real one and keeps burning inside the bodies of demons without anyone to kindle it till the last cycle, the oldest demon still remembers Izalith so experiment wasn't even a total failure
>demons managed to create some sort of a culture, even did some primitive statues, one even started working as gatekeeper in a kingdom nearby
>invaded by someone who brought a homing giga avelyn 4000 with them
>genocide of demons commenced though poor old demon king still survives only to lie in a pile of bodies of his own kin
>you just go and murder him to steal the last power of chaos flame in his soul
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>>161772759
He was playing MGS4 at the time.
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>>161773415
Demon Lives Matter
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The only songs I hate in dark souls 3 are abyss watchers, old demon king and soul of cinder. They rely too much on nostalgia
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>>161771902
At what part of the conversation was DS1 ever brought up?
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>>161773381
>>161773415
remember the six gorrilian demons
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>>161773352
>ps4
here's your problem
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Why did Quelaag and the Fair Lady flee Izalith and the other demons? Is it ever explained?
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>>161772665
>Crash remaster
I'm happy.
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>>161773415
I've never felt morally wrong for killing a boss in dark souls except maybe nameless king and his dragon but god damn dude that old demon didn't deserve it and the way he just falls down and gets all weak just really made me feel so awful i never killed him in any of the playthroughs after.
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>>161773553
Kill six billion demons is a lame comic
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>>161773148
The PS4pro is a steaming pile. I bet they won't even give Bloodborne the 60fps patxh.
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>>161773541
At the very beginning when I asked about the Morningstar in DS1. Get it together, anon.
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>>161773537
How do Abyss Watchers and Old Demon King rely on nostalgia? They don't sound like anything from 1 to me.
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>>161773541
Here >>161770165
>Does the Morningstar work with the Leo Ring in DS1?
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>>161773841
Abyss watchers is an Artorias remix
ODK is a demon boss remix (quelaag, ceaseless, Taurus)
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>>161773673
I will admit that Crash is definitely worth remastering, thought I am kind skeptic to whether they can properly do it.
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>>161774031
>Abyss watchers is an Artorias remix
I'm not hearing it.
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>>161773841
Old demon king has the chaos bed's theme in it but it's hard to notice and he's just a whiny faggot.
Not sure about abyss watcher's theme.
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>>161774031
They both are evolution of themes from DS1. Calling them a remix is as moronic as calling something in a direct sequel a simple remix of something from its predecessor.
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>>161774046
Looked good in the video. I'm buying whenever I get a ps4.
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>>161774031
>abyss watchers is an artorias remix
False. It has none of artorias' theme in it.
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>>161774031
>ODK is a demon boss remix (quelaag, ceaseless, Taurus)
That's fitting though. And using leitmotifs doesn't make something a remix.
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>darkmoon blade sabre
>arbalest
can you be any more tryhard? jesus christ
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I want to make my vitgouge in das3

How. What weapon, at SL100 ish with full health and stamina/vit etc will let me still do damage
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Why lifedrain is so lewd?
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>mfw trying to cut off Seath's tail and it keeps clipping into the wall
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>>161764597

How did I spend 1000 hours on this garbage
Just how
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>>161774564
>offhand caestus

could you be any more tryhard? jesus christ
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>>161774593
K-kissu
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>>161774090
>>161774374
You're deaf
>>161774126
>>161774170
>>161774490
Because God forbid they come up with something original right?
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>>161774564
Are you using wolf ring?
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>>161774565
mlgs build is the best ds3 vitgouge
you might go with raw dragonslayer axe and higher hp, but it's not a good trade
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>>161774593
I've never managed to hit anything with that.
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>PS4 can't even handle 3 phantoms with ToD cast without FPS shitting the bed
>Memezaki allows 5 phantoms all with ToD cast at the same time
>5 fps
BRAVO
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>>161774875
>Because God forbid they come up with something original right?
It is an entirely new track, not a remix. Your complaint is valid for a variety of issues. This is not one of them.
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>>161774943
Try 5x firestorms
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>>161775000
Relying on nostalgia isn't being original. It fosters artificial emotions towards a subject similar to how jump-started foster artificial horror
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>>161774884
+2, I needed it to reach 45+ poise and I didn't want to go full havel's
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>>161775167
A sensation is a sensation. Over relying on it is a sign of being uncreative (and DaS 3 over relies on nostalgia) but that doesn't make every instance of it bad.
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>>161775167
>artificial emotions

what did you just say idiot
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>>161775167
But abyss watcher's theme has nothing from artorias' theme you fuck.
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>>161775167
>a direct sequel relies on material from the first installment and shows its further evolution
>this is somehow bad
>in other words, Empire Strikes Back should've featured a completely new cast of main characters and disregard majority of The New Hope
Moron.
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>>161775167
>artificial emotions
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>>161775337
A proper analogy would be each successive episode would be made up primarily of family guy esque flash backs to the previous episode
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>>161775328
Artificial emotions are feelings felt by artificial means rather than good story telling. Jump scares is am example of that. A crying cat commercial with in the arms of an angel playing in the background is an example of that. Reusing Gwyn theme is an example of that
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>>161773707

>I've never felt morally wrong for killing a boss in dark souls except maybe nameless king

Sif, especially after the DLC.
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>>161773707
I feel bad for wailing on father ariandel, he's so weak and fragile.
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>>161775272
>needed it to reach 45+ poise
Wow. You really want to poise through other ultras that much?
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>>161775698
Maybe the dog shouldn't have tried to attack me and instead helped me.
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>>161775554
At this point i don't know what you faggots even want from the franchise. From did a game in a new setting and got an overwhelming criticism. Now From did a direct sequel, and quite a good one as far as sequels go, but some soulstards are still crying. It's impossible to satisfy you.
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>>161774624
>seath's axis of rotation is outside his body, in front of his preggo belly
Only reason I hate that cunt. Anyway, if you want to 1hand the mlgs, you can 2hand a zaphander. Get yourself to low HP, right above rtsr, wait by the crystal, when he stops moving towards you cast power within and as soon as he turns his head to attack, run behind him. He'll break the crystal and get stunned, in which case you'll be able to perform at least a single r1, which should be enough. If he recovers before you cut the tail, best homeward bone and retry
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>>161775167
>artificial emotions
I don't know why the fuck I even bother coming to this general anymore.
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>>161775672
No, you retard. A jump-scare is a reaction, tied into our flight or fight response.

There's no such thing as an artificial emotion, jesus christ.

>Reusing Gwyn theme is an example of that
if somebody never played ds1 then they wouldn't even react at all.
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>>161775886
>Sequels have to be 100% unoriginal and rely on nothing but call backs and nostalgia
You can expand on the story instead of going hey remember this and that?
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>>161775878

But she *was* trying to help you, anon. She was trying to save you from Artorias' fate.
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>>161775859
It's actually pretty fun when people think they can trade and stagger you and you just keep swinging.
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>>161775167
>artificial emotions
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>>161776231
>You can expand on the story
Exactly what From did.
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>>161775698
>he knows who you are and met you in the past
>still attacks you
Fuck that wolf i didn't need to get attacked by him.
>>161775801
Now this one i can understand.
>kill his daughter infront of him
>he goes absolutely insane
>is obviously just a frail old man
>so consumed by anger he could fuck you up
>sets the room on fire
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>>161774593
it's a Berserk reference to Femto and Casca
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>>161776148
Ofc noone would react retard of they didn't play ds1, because it's artificial designed to bank on muh nostalgia
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>>161775167

You're right, but all the IIIcucks here have so much buyer's remorse that telling them that their game is going for cheap emotional jabs is going to get you their scorn.
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>>161776260
>killed Manus in front of the dumb dog
>guess you can't handle a few power hungry dickwraiths
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>>161776302
LOL
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>>161776260
>she
Proof
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>>161776428
Criticising 3 causes more butthurt than criticising 2. Illcucks are cancer
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Sif is a boy...
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>>161776591
Not him but Sif is a female name. Which is a weird argument, since Ciaran is a male one, with the female counterpart being Ciara. Not that it matters in any shape or form
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>>161775167
>artificial emotions
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>>161776428
I think it does this a lot I just don't think the Old Demon King's boss music is an example of that. Why is everything so all or nothing with you guys?
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>>161776850
Yea name means nothing.
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>>161777072
>Why is everything so all or nothing with you guys?
you're in one of the shittiest generals on 4chan
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>>161777037
Artificial
adj. Made by humans; produced rather than natural.
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>>161776428
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little hollow? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Brotherhood of Blood, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Drangleic Castle, and I have over 300 confirmed PVP kills. I am trained in DEX warfare and I’m the top fighter at Iron Keep. You are nothing to me but just another token. I will lagstab you with precision the likes of which Vendrick has never seen before, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with R1 mashing? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of dark spirits across worlds and your Soul Sign is being traced right now so you better prepare for the buff, beanpole. The buff that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead. I can be anywhere, anytime with my cracked orbs, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my estoc. Not only am I extensively trained in powerstancing, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Ornifex and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable soul off the face of the continent, you little chugger. If only you could have known what dark retribution your little “clever” magic spam was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have black crystaled out. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you "MLG Pro". I will Black Flame all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, hollow.
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>>161776696
Criticizing 2 doesn't cause butthurt, praising it does.
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>>161777174
all emotions are made by humans, technically speaking
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>>161777153
You've not been to enough generals then
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>>161776419
By that logic any emotion towards any game is artificial. "banking on nostalgia" is such a shitty excuse. That's part of the story telling. If the firekeeper in Ds3 got backstabbed by Patches at the end, people would have feelings towards that too. Plenty of people also had feelings about Greirat dying, for example.

You're a fucking retard, nostalgia or not no emotion is artificial, Miyazaki can't forcefully make you feel anything. You did that.
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>>161777153
>you're in one of the shittiest generals on 4chan
Not even close sadly. Every general says it's the worst one. Rarely do they know how good they have it by comparison.

>>161777174
So all media causes "artificial" emotions. As does all human interaction.
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>>161777072
>Hey we got a demon boss we need a theme
>Just use quelaag theme and add some more oomph with the chorus
>Ok
Stop defending it
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>>161777307
But that's not what they did.
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>>161775167
>artificial emotions
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>>161777175
Nic3
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>>161777307
The chaos bed theme is only mixed into the second phase you stupid fucking nigger, stop over exaggerating.
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>>161777174
Yeah because your natural emotions are not made by humans, fucking tool.
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>you'll never have a boyfriend as handsome as Otz that also likes dark souls

why live
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>>161777571
>"Gwyn theme is only mixed in during second phase" that makes it okay
Yawn. You cucks will eat anything from shits out if it revolves around das1
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>>161777596
lucifer put your trip back on pls
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>>161777596
>isn't satisfied with pcfcbf
;-;
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>>161777662
I hate Andre and Siegward and the over-reliance on Dark Souls 1. Just, occasionally having elements of a theme with a thematically tied boss isn't a problem for me. That's just good direction.
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>>161775167
>this is green text
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>>161777571
REMEMBER THAT GUY??????!!!!!
IF ONLY YOU COULD SUMMON SOLAIRE FOR THE FIGHT IT WOULD BE 100 TIMES MORE EPIC
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>>161769685
Why does DS3 crash so fucking much? I set the lighting to low. What else can I do?
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>>161777662
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>>161777750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua0zMsDiAyg

TAKE THAT BACK
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>>161777724

I can't even get a pcfcbf.
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>>161777750
>Andre reappears. Not a guy that looks like Andre, not Andre's son, motherfucking Andre from hundreds of years ago furthering the possibility that he was the son of a god/a god himself
>They do nothing with him, its just a HEY GUYS REMEMBER WHEN reference and a single line confirming he is who you think he is.
Just one more thing on the list of enormous wasted potential for DaS3.
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>dsg hates das2
>dsg loves fanservice and das3
that explains a lot actually
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>>161776850
Hornets have stingers :^)
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>>161778028
reminder that he outlived the giant blacksmith
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>>161778017
Don't be silly anon, you just need to work hard
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>>161778105
how do we know Ciaran doesn't?
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>>161778164
Well the whole Aldritch thing didn't happen in firelink, so no wonders.
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>First flame gutters, lord makes new flame, starts feeling bad-Chaos demon! Many such cases, very sad!
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>>161777906
Second caption n would be better if it was [Gwyn.mp3] or Gwyn's theme plays
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>>161777934
>eng dub dbz
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>>161777662
Gwyn's theme is mixed in unchanged, chaos bed is changed, you're still over exaggerating, keep it up.
>>161777804
Nice.
>>161778045
>/dsg/ hates a shitty game with some ok elements
>/dsg/ loves something that people naturally love
>The guy shitposting so hard about the themes is actually autistic DS2 guy
Who could have guessed.
I get that DS3 over relies on nostalgia but a nice theme that is heavily remixed isn't the thing that needs bitching.
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I don't think the lore in ds3 is real if you think about it, cause for one there are 2 firekeepers at the same time, that makes no sense. So one of them isn't real, and also you can have 3 firekeepers if you do the cleric quest. Again makes no sense.. so I think our character we play as isn't real. I think everything we do in the game never actually happens cause when you go to the untended Graves it shows us the real firelink and that one is empty except for the real firekeeper. Also think about it.. that ain't the real firelink shrine from ds1. Looks nothing alike. The whole area is fake.

So everyone we meet is just an illusion even the ending of the game doesn't make sense we already defeated gwyn why would he be alive? Unless he was an illusion of course. None of it was real.
Overall I'm not impressed with the lore of ds3. Seems like a very lazy way to go about the story if nothing is goin to be real. Hopefully the dlc let's us play in the real lore world and not the fake one.
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>>161778105
Male hornets don't.

>>161778270
The penis replaces the stinger in development.
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>>161778409
over relies is an understatement. You literally go back to the areas of the first game and even fight bosses of the first game.
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>>161778409
DaS 2 is a good game though. All the Souls games are.
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>>161778319
Thanks trump
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>>161778532
>fight bosses of the first game
I guess the demon on the bridge is what you're talking about and i guess you're not wrong but it's not even that big.
>inb4 you say gwyndolin even though the fight is completely different
I could see you saying soul of cinder too but the soul is supposed to be everyone who linked the flame so it makes sense for him to have some of gwyn's moves. Honestly everything they took nostalgia shit from was atleast good they could have brought back something awful.
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>>161778409
>/dsg/ hates a shitty game with some ok elements

Not him but I like Ds2 more than Ds3(mostly for the pvp), but his argument is retarded. Ds3 having throwbacks to Ds1 doesn't make it bad, that's fucking retarded.
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>>161778413
DaS1 had multiple firekeepers, so what the fuck are even rambling about?
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Why can I get four-shot by a darkmoon bladed corvian knife with 40 vigor?
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>>161778765
The game has more references and call backs than it does original content, how can you defend it?
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>>161778567
In comparison to the rest of the games it is easily the worst in the series.
>>161778860
>mostly for the pvp
I could maybe understand this but only if your argument is for better build variety, and maybe the bone fists, i miss the drop kick.
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>>161778946
>In comparison to the rest of the games it is easily the worst in the series.
Nah that's DaS 3 in my opinion
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>>161778765
>forced 'MEMBER moments
>good

At least das2, while being pretty fucking trash, managed to go away from most of das1 themes and tried to be a different game. DaS3 is das1 with higher ambition and the worst of both worlds.
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>>161778765
>go through irithyll
>remember that moment when you got shot by silver knights in the first game?
>guess what, here it is again
thx memezaki
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>>161778946
It's funny you posted dmc because dmc2 is an adequate comparison to ds2 and dmc: devil may cry is and adequate comparison to ds3 because it's just a retelling of the of the popular game (dmc3/ds1)
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>>161778913
Because there is nothing wrong with callbacks, and also all of it's main bosses are original and so are the themes.
>>161778981
That's a perfectly ok opinion, i honestly just really dislike the bosses in 2 which are always the best part of the games for me which ruins it.
>>161778982
Straying from the path should not be a good reason for why you say a game is better, there is nothing wrong with following a set formula.
>>161779093
DmC is not a retelling of DMC3 are you stupid?
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>>161778912
Because the stat giving magic defense is intelligence.
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>>161779093
So this means dark souls 4 will be the best game in the series?
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>>161779252
Yeah. Yeah sure... It'll be great...
They just keep getting... better and better...
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>>161779203
Except it is dumb fuck. Tameem is retelling the story in his own vision. It follows very similar to dmc3. Are you one of those retards that hare the game so much you think it's an alternative reality or some shit?
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>>161779203
>there is nothing wrong with following a set formula.
Yes there is. Why do you think the zelda cycle exists?

>>161779203
>DmC is not a retelling of DMC3 are you stupid?
fact checking is not /dsg/s specialty, it seems
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>>161779252
DeS: DMC1
DaS: DMC3
DaS2: DMC2
BB: DMC4
DaS3: DmC: Devil May cry
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>>161779565
FUCK YOU
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>>161777304
Not him, but:

I don't think /dsg/ is the worst general but I'd say it's near the top of that list. The current /dsg/ is largely a nasty cross section of:
>People who are bad at fighting games
>The CoD community
>People who are obsessed with lore but couldn't work their way through a Goosebumps book
And to top it all off, Souls games allow the shittiness of the community to affect the games. Pretty much every invasion I've experienced for the past few weeks has been some parry spammer with a caestus + hornet ring and everyone has more sips than I do unless it's late in the game and everyone just writes it off as "but invaders need this stuff to deal with muh ganks" which kind of glosses over the fact that cheesy shitters don't put away the cheesy shit when you're alone.
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i want to use the bastard sword but fucking hell that range make it hard
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>>161779769
>People who are bad at fighting games
fuck you i was diamond before getting banned for using survival mods
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>>161775328
lol i thought miyazaki was fatter because of his chubby face
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>>161779252
>DMC4
>Best game in the series
Mate what the fuck are you talking about? DMC4 is the perfect representation for DS3 if anything because..
>has the most fluid and best mechanics in the series
>is also the fastest
>is unfinished
>>161779406
>Alternate reality
Well vergil uses a gun but it is nothing like DMC3
>Fight vergil multiple times in DMC3 he is an enemy basically
>Just hunting down this cunt because he destroyed your business
DmC
>Vergil is not known to donte he has never met him and they work together
>Vergil uses a gun
>Vergil isn't even a bad guy until the very end in which he says something that a regular guy would say and donte takes it as some super villain thing
>Fighting some corrupt company trying to control people with a soda
>Some scene chick helps you alot for some reason and can see into "the void"
They are absolutely nothing alike and you are stupid.
>>161779496
>Why do you think the zelda cycle exists
Yea but people come back to these games and are still wanting the next one, it works.
But beating a dead horse and following a set formula are not the same thing and comparing a series that has spanned across generations to 2 games is pretty idiotic.
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>>161779726
Fuck you
*Gwyn theme plays*
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>>161779769
And how many invasions have you done yourself? Maybe you'd understand a little better why the person who is expecting to have the odds stacked against them utilized cheap shit.
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>>161779908
Zelda is OG Dark Souls, tho. Until they introduced a numbered map in case you have some sort of brain disease.
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>>161779796
Do you have lots of STR?
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BUT YOU CAN CALL ME ASHEN ONE THE CINDER-SLAYER

HAS A NICE RING TO IT, DON'T YA THINK?
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>>161779908
dmc:dmc tried to retell the events in dmc 1 and dmc 3, although in a different order. you fell mundus and then find a rival in your brother. he's supposed to be both vergil and nelo angelo at the same time. Tameem is a confirmed retard, though so that explains the holes
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>>161779243
Thanks
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>>161779908
Yeah you're pretty much a fucking idiot. You right it off as alternate reality because you don't like it. It is literally a retelling of dmc3 and was originally addressed bt capcom as a reboot. Just because it does certain things differently doesn't change the fact it's still a retelling od the story. Also the fact that you claim dmc4 is the best in the series further proves how much of a retard you are.
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>>161728809
It's time
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>>161780046
>FK set Ashen one looks in the mirror as EK helm falls on his head
>heh, not in a million cycles
>gets staggered
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>>161779997
No king's field is OG Dark souls, Zelda and DS only share being third person dungeon crawlers but nothing else about them are similar.
>>161780046
>that part where virgin is in hell or some shit and donte says something along the lines of
>You don't belong anywhere that's the reason you're here, oh and because i killed you
Honestly that was pretty good, I laughed at alot of the dumb shit in that game and rather enjoyed it.
>>161780185
I just said DMC4 wasn't the best in the series, i said it was the most fluid with the best mechanics, maybe you should learn to read.
>you right it off
Ok i understand now, you are actually mentally disabled, it is not a retelling if everything about it is different except the characters you stupid fuck.
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>>161779908
>DMC4
>Best game in the series
Bb
>has the most fluid and best mechanics in the series
Bb
>is also the fastest
Bb

Das3 wasn't unfinished that was das2 and das1
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>>161779203
>That's a perfectly ok opinion, i honestly just really dislike the bosses in 2 which are always the best part of the games for me which ruins
Yeah I could see that. If that were the single most important part of the game for me 2 would by far be my least favorite. Definitely the worst bosses on the whole.
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>>161780403
>ignoring the part where i say "what the fuck are you saying mate"
Did any of you even look at what i was replying to?
DS3 is unfinished, it is obvious.
>is also the fastest
DS3 is faster than BB by a mile.
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>>161780349
Just go play the original zelda on the nes. Preferably without a guide, you fucking millennial.
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DeS> das > 2 > bb> 3
dmc1>3>4>dmc dmc
Mh4u > 3u > literal shit > mhx
Mgs2 > mgs1 > mgs3 > series died after that
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>>161779769
Try going into single player generals, /ksg/ being the iconic one. Metal gear died to a super aitist worse than anyone here. I'd say mmo ones too, from the few I went to, but I'm not going to generalise them all.
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>>161780551
>Comparing a 2d dungeon crawler game that has no detail and is mechanically outdated to a 3d dungeon crawler that has nothing in common with the other
Nice one though man, maybe if you picked king's field and oot it would have been more understandable and a reasonable comparison but you would still be wrong.
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>>161780296
>Rosaria's Finger reaper assassin
nothin personnel
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>>161780538
You're right they're missing some more call backs and references.
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>>161780702
I'm not comparing, I said it was the OG. If you transition the basic ideas of the original 2D zelda in 3D you get a very basic dark souls. Stop pretending.
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What is the optimal level for being a darkmoon/sentinel so I can get concords? It's just such a pain in the ass to grind those things.
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>>161780673
>Metal gear died to a super aitist worse than anyone here.
Goldenface originated in Witcher General then migrated if you're talking about who I think you're talking about.
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>>161780003
yeah
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>>161780651
>demon souls that high
>DMC1 that high
Your nostalgia is way too high my friend, Demon souls is extremely slow and all the bosses felt alot better back in the day.
DMC1 has triangle to jump.
>>161780779
Ah then i just misunderstood you, the ideas yes but there isn't really enough there to say it's the OG Dark souls. I even said "a third person dungeon crawler is all they have in common" which is still true here.
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>>161779964
>And how many invasions have you done yourself?

Plenty, but that's irrelevant.

I'll refer you back to:
>cheesy shitters don't put away the cheesy shit when you're alone

>>161780673
>Try going into single player generals

I frequent several, mostly /tesg/ and /fog/, the latter of which admittedly got way the fuck out of hand. Like I said, I don't think /dsg/ is the worst but this general is just about as autistic as /vp/ as a whole even with 4kings Anon dead and Lucy absent and that's a significant level of autism.
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>>161780808
just go dark sword
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>>161780783
120. Just go kill the silver knights. Takes 3 to 5 hours to get them.
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>>161780349
The game's story focuses on the player character Dante, a young man at the start of his saga. Dante is a Nephilim: half-angel, half-demon. He is partnered with his twin brother, Vergil, and is on a quest to kill the Demon King Mundus, who murdered their mother and condemned their father to banishment. Players can use Dante's iconic sword, Rebellion, and signature handguns, Ebony and Ivory, as well as a variety of other melee weapons and firearms to defeat enemies. The game also introduces Angel Mode and Devil Mode, which are modifiers to Dante's moveset.

The re-imagination of the Devil May Cry series was requested by Capcom, resulting in a total reboot.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DmC:_Devil_May_Cry


Kill yourself
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>>161780982
>lucy absent
Don't kid yourself my friend, that faggot just posts without his trip.
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>>161780921
>Slow is bad
Ok
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>>161780982
>cheesy shitters don't put away the cheesy shit when you're alone
>implying any host deserves mercy
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>>161780651
das1 > bb > everything else
dmc3 > dmc 1 > everything else
shitty kiddy game
mgs2 > mgs1 > everything else
sh2 > sh3 > everything else
dkc2 > dkc1 > everything else
999>vlr> shit > everything else
see the pattern?
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>>161781149
Slow isn't bad but when something feels outdated which Demon souls does it will make it alot worse than you remembered, the bosses are also just garbage.
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III apologists are obnoxious as fuck
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>>161780651
DS1>BB>>>3>>DES=2
DMC3>DMC4>DMC1>>>>>>DmC>>>>>>DMC2
MGS3=MGS1>MGS2
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>>161781449
>Bosses are garbage because they aren't generic humanoids that are fast
>N-n-nostalgiafag!
I played DeS last fuckface
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>>161781152
>host playing solo
>tyrannosaurus rek his shit with your meta cheese and all the enemies on your side to gank the host
>no mercy git gud scrub #handClapsAllDay

>invade a group of 2 phantoms and a blue with a giant seed
>get your shit pushed in
>post salty crocodile tears on the /dsg/

Hmmm.....

>get ganked
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>>161781608
>Bosses are garbage because they aren't humanoids that are fast
Humanoid bosses are always the best in the series though, there are also 3 humanoid bosses in DeS if i remember correctly and they're also just as bad if not worse than the rest of the bosses.
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>>161781728
I don't whine.I want you to try everything to get rid of me and I'll do the same.
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>>161781776
Bosses used to be unique encounters, not generic humanoid enemies with more health. Most boss fights in des and das were about problem solving over raw twitch based reactions
The latter has been overdone Already
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>>161781728
>give host the benefit of the doubt
>get him low in a 1v1 with no parry spam or hornet ring
>Summoning phantom...
>Host runs backwards with shield up
Or my personal favorite his buttbuddy passworded phantoms come out of nowhere.

Shit I used to give hosts with a single phantom a break but fuck that, they'll legit black crystal out now, restock on estus, and get resummoned.

Hosts deserve no mercy, the legitimate folks just playing through looking for an occasional invasion are unfortunate, but they're the minority by far.
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>>161781910
You may not whine, but the community at large whines enough for you, such is the nature of a game where the "rules" are spoken on Malaysian cartoon forums.
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>>161781972
I'm going to say you're right and maybe there are some needs for a more large beast boss but i still always found the humanoids the most fun even if they have been overdone to death.
Yhorm the Giant, the tree and Old demon king are the only non humanoids i can think of in DS3 but the first two were absolute garbage, i was going to say oceiros but i'm really not sure if i'd count him as humanoid or not, he was a good fight though.
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Anyone wanna help me kill the Dancer at a low level? I'm on PC and I can set up a password for it if anyone wants to give me a hand. The password would be dsg of course.
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>>161782439

I can try. I'll use the password.
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>>161782334
Aldritch sorta counts?
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>>161782261
There are no rules. The sooner people dumb enough to think there are such get out, the better it becomes
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>>161782334
The problem with those fights is If i wanted those kinds of fights I'd just play monster hunter.

Bb had it right until toh and then fell back on their oversaturation of ""epic boss man fight" most bosses in bb had a weakness you could exploit like Amelia's limbs or killing romlings or dark beast limbs. Even phase 1 Ludwig but everything after that goes generic boss mode
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>>161782495
>aldritch
Ehh i mean no and yes? The part that's attacking you is a human but it is just a giant slug monster but i don't know, there's also the dragon but it was just drop attack2win.
Vordt is also a beast i think.
>>
>new to DS2
>bell keeper was my first multiplayer interaction and made me assume you HAVE to equip the covenant ring to get rewards
>join sun covenant
>kill smelter 27 times
>last 3, SM is super high now so getting slow summons
>fucking around with rings while waiting to get summoned
>wore the sun seal for all 27 co-op interactions, I started as a bandit and use no spells
>look up sun seal
>apparently I don't need to have it equipped for sun medals

holy shit is this true? did I just gimp myself for all those co-op interactions? lmao
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>>161783045
Yes. Congratz
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>>161783045
Yeah, only auto-summon covenants need rings equipped because covenant badge slots were only first implemented in 3.
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>>161783140
>>161783165
fuck I feel so retarded but at the same time It improved my item menu swapping speed when getting invaded in iron keep and switching out the ring for something that isnt shit to defend myself.
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what's a good boss to drop my sign at 2M soul memory?
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r8 and post fashion
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>>161783776
looks like absolute shit f᠎᠎a᠎᠎᠎m
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>>161783858
Sh-shut up. It's a cosplay!
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Retard question here, I know of the problem that happened a while ago with invaders dropping hacked items, but was that a PC only problem? Or can that happen on console too?
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>doing low level summons in undead settlement for jolly co-op

>get summoned.

>host apparently went afk

>clear half the world running back to yell at host on occasion.

>running back and see the invaded message

>get back to host to see other sunbro invader kicking host slowly towards cliff

>run up, L1 spam and praise the sun

>sunbro and invader sunbro praising the sun together between his kicks.

>host goes over edge

>one more praise to each other before we are sent home.

>thank you for rescuing me from the boredom based sunbro invader
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>>161784093
>guy who summoned you suffered from a stroke and was laying on the floor dead the entire time
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>>161784013
Are you cosplaying feces? Good job.
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>>161784241
ebin
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>>161779997
>>161780349
The only old game reminiscent of dark souls is nightmare creatures, desu.
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>>161784013
0/10 you could probably do alot better.
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>>161784225

Fuck him for wasting my time.
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>>161784342
Demon's Crest had a very similar aesthetic and soundtrack.
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>>161784342
God I forgot about that game.
Might have to dig it up out of the back of the closet.
>>
I want to be a righteous crusader that fucks heretics in the ass in pvp.

How do?
>>
Is an Abyss Watcher a fun cosplay to do? I want to learn the farron greatsword but I know that it's easily parried.
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>>161784662
mod skyrim for that
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>>161784662
Aldritch Faithful pure crusader set?
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>>161784662
lightning blade carthus curved sword
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>>161784093
I wish people would post more funny stories no matter if they're true or not.
>Playing with my friend
>i'm dressed as smough the alpha male
>friend is little bitch ornstein
>summoning reds to gank
>someone joins
>i come out and he bows to me
>ornsteing comes out
>as soon as he sees ornstein he bc's out
He added me after saying that it was awesome but the boss fight gave him enough trouble and he didn't want to relive it.
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Is Dark Souls 1 or Demons Souls better?
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>>161784917
I meant Cathedral Knight set.
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>>161784662
Any knight set, preferably with cathedral knight helm, lightning blade, blessed weapon or dmb.

Any non toothpick weapon.

Prayer after each kill.
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>>161784662
Knight armor with cathedral knight helm or solaire helm, use a long sword. Either have lightning or blessing on it and maybe a shield.
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I just lost 950k souls farming anor londo giants on NG+

i'm pretty sad right now
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>>161784662
Falchion with DMB with Sellsword helm
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>>161784090

This?
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>>161784932
>i come out
>and he bows to me
faggot
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so what ever happened to the fertile pigment? she became manus after birthing humanity when she found the dark soul and kept it ? so we killed the mother of humanity??? :(
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>>161785007
Too different for a direct quality comparison.
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>>161785007
Dark Souls 2 is better than both
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>>161785007
DaS2
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>>161785567
She ran off and split herself into pieces ages ago and let everyone forget her. Those pieces became humanity. One of them was Manus.
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>>161785007
shadow warrior
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>>161784932
>it's been a week since ariandel came out
>enjoying the new arena, using demon's greataxe
>join into duel, the guy is a typical crowfeathers spammer
>after a while of both of us rolldodging eachother's attacks he gets on the fallen tower bit
>for some reason I decide that now would be a great time to charge up a r2
>he jumps from halfway up the tower, weapon aimed to do a falling attack
>think I'm fucked, already low on health
>right as he's about to hit me a fully charged r2 pancakes him for a whopping 800 damage
>mfw I forgot that the r2 was overhead
>mfw he thought I did it intentionally and clapped

gonna need a sauce on that pic, google images and tineye can't find it
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>>161785834
>that spoiler
>>161785528
I am not sure what you're saying.
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>>161784848
Farron gs is the worst UGS in the game don't waste your time
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>>161786116
Is it the worst because it's easily parried or is it something else that makes it bad?
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>>161786116
But it's fun and has an interesting moveset, zweihander and cathedral gs are far worse.
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>>161786220
Breakdance hits for shit damage and is easily parried.
Parry dagger has shit iframes.
Damage isn't all that hot in general.
The cool factor is all it has going for it.
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>>161786259
spinning gets old

and cathedral is great
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>>161786220
It is very easily parried, if you just hold up shield while they do the spin you'll be able to backstab them, but hitting them with one r1 which is unparryable if i remember correctly then with an l1 is always a good idea. If you're just spamming L1 then yea you're gonna get fucked.
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>>161786393
I can confirm that r1 is parriable, I've been parried on a r1 before.
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>>161786365
>cathedral is great
No it is not.
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>>161786393
one handed gs r1 is not unparriable.

you get mediocre damage, no unparriable attacks, and the inferior one handed moveset, all so that you can get gimmicky spins which aren't actually better than normal moves.

The only reason to use it is alongside a weapon art greatshield, so you can parry with a greatshield.
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>>161786695
strike damage though
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>>161786220
It has shitty damage and you don't even need to parry it, you can just outspace and throw bombs when they have seizures on the ground
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>>161784848
It's a fun cosplay to do sure, but arty's GS is far better and so is artorias' armor.
I did a cosplay where i changed my name to Aboss watcher and i had the abyss watcher's set but i used arty's GS
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>>161786695
The damage is good, the moveset is alright, the weight is better than many, and it looks cool.

It's not as good as the astora, profaned, or black knight, but it's better than the farron for sure.
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>>161787012
It is worse than the zweihander.
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>>161787158
It's better than the zweihander.
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>>161786887
I actually use that sword more on my main character, but I was wanting to do a cosplay and still do low level invasions. I do like the WKGS so I might go back to that for low level stuff.
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>>161787012
I would say it's also better than Fume's just because it doesn't weight as much while also doing strike dmg
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>>161787248
It is worse than the zweihander.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11793631
http://www.strawpoll.me/11793631
http://www.strawpoll.me/11793631

Let's see it
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>people keep comparing dark souls and Zelda
>When dark souls is clearly 3D Castlevania
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>>161787540
>DaS2 is Simon's quest
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>>161787712
Simon's Quest was the first attempt at a Metroidvania-style world. If anything, that's DaS1.
DaS2 is Harmony of Dissonance.
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>>161787373
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11793631
Lords of The Fallen is the single greatest Souls experience and if you disagree you need to get good and stop whining.
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>>161782210
>they're the minority by far
>shitters actually believe this
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>>161788167
>solo hosts are not the minority in a game that prioritizes invasions with phantoms
Ok.
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>>161787540
>you will never use your broadsword and tower kite shield to save Zeldavere and all of Lordrule from Manusdorf
Why even live
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>>161782210
>no blue orcs
>no new mechanic to allow reds to summon a friend through a red soapstone when facing host + 2 phantoms + a bluebie
>or at least a brotherhood of blood covenant

Why didn't they keep the good shit from DS2?
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>>161788239
>People who play through solo don't exist because the game prioritizes worlds with phantoms
Ok.
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>>161788538
>moving goalposts
Ok.
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>>161788538
>>161788647
>who are you quoting? with "Ok." at the bottom
Ok.
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>>161788647
You're already engaged in hyperbole, don't whine about me doing the same thing.

>>161788950
Ok.
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>>161789064
OK.
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>>161789064
>I'm full of shit
Ok.
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Ok.
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>>161789337
>I'm incapable of facing the fact that I'm simply rationalizing my shittery with bad math
Ok.
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Well maybe we can stop shitposting and post some good quality recent webms?

>gets a parry
>I have super low hp
>*unzips spear*

Congratulations, you played yourself.
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Which Ds3 ending is the best?
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>>161790957
Lord of hollows
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>>161790957
this>>161790984
Anyone have that image where she's saying you should get married and in the next panel she's playing with figures?
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>>161790625
>Turn around and unzip shield
>He still went for the running R1

Either that man's a dingus or you were still facing the other way on his screen. I don't know why he didn't just pull out the throwing knives, nobody ever expects those.
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So I just started DS2, and I am kinda wondering why it gets the hate. I'm not very far (just made it to No Man's Wharf, which is my least favorite area yet), but it doesn't really seem that horrendous. I'll say it seems easier than DS1, but that might be because I have more experience with the series as a whole. Does it nosedive sometime later in the game (no spoilers, pls)? It seems like they made some decent convenience improvements, too (no having to wait to be able to teleport, you can summon people without having to use them against the boss).
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>>161790957

Firekeeper curpstomping
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Alright /dsg/, now that Dark Souls is finally ending (just one DLC to go) let's ask the most important question.

u rike?
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>>161791249
The bosses are the killer for me, they're easily the weakest in the series, enemy placement is also garbage, game's second half does actually get worse or better depending on who you ask.
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>>161784932
That was good dojin my dude
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>>161791249
>I am kinda wondering why it gets the hate

E-celeb memes and people making mountains out of molehills. DS2 did a bunch of stuff wrong (soul memory, lack of full orbs) but it was still a great game. Hybrid builds and dual wielding will probably never be as good again.
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>>161791249
It has a lot of shitty bosses and the main game honestly drags on a little too long with some very uninteresting areas.

Two out of the three DLC are absolutely phenomenal though.
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>>161791425
>those gimped left handed weapons in DS3
>no parrying with two handed swords anymore
>no drop kicking with fist weapons
I AM DEAD ON THE INSIDE
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>>161789576
>tfw you laugh at this comic but then realize how true it is
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>>161791341
This would be my main complaint. Have not yet died to any boss, not even on the first try. This isn't a brag, the levels themselves before the bosses are genuinely harder. 2-3 grunts should not be harder than a boss. 2-3 knights or something? Yeah, alright. A few undead soldiers? Come on bosses, step it up. I suppose the bosses look alright and fit the feel of the game, but even the first couple bosses in DS1 could punish you for fuckups (ex, Taurus Demon w/ archers, or Bell Gargoyle punishing you for playing super passively and letting yourself get double teamed).

To the game's credit, however, it looks pretty good and plays very smoothly, and I do think that includes the controls getting a bit smoother. It feels like weapons break faster. Is that just me, or is that actually a thing?
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uncorrupted artorias' gs when?
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>>161791832
When they add it back in.
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>>161791832
In DLC2 when they rehash Sif for a boss fight again
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>>161791832
artorias is fucking garbage. they should have never brought any of his trash back
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>>161792081
I just hate the chicken legs
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>>161792081
I disagree, without artorias we wouldn't have gough who is the best character ever created.
>>161791916
So never ever?
>>161791925
No way they'll do that again, right?
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>>161791529
>those gimped left handed weapons in DS3

A lot of them are even worse than their DS1 counterparts. I tried to make Jonathan Morris in 3 since he's one of the hunters that wields VK in their left hand and I was dismayed to see that the left hand moveset for whips is a block and a strong attack, which is about as useful as tits on wax fruit. DS1's left handed whips didn't give you the full moveset like 2 did but at least you got a parry.

>>161791765
Weapons do break faster. They also self-repair when you sit at a bonfire unless they're actually broken, in which case you need to see a blacksmith.
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>>161792186
A lot of the time when this happened in DaS it was because of running the game with an unlocked framerate.
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>>161791425
I mean, if a game is good but considered the least good of franchise, it tends to get some hate even if it isn't bad. If not for the CDi games, Zelda Four Swords and Zelda II would be shat on a lot more (for example).

Overall I still enjoy it. One small nitpick is that leveling up at a bonfire could have and should have stayed the same. Another is that getting the Estus Flask in this one makes you actually go find the NPC in a way such that you can actually miss it. This isn't awful, but it was a good design choice in DS1 to make it so you had to talk to the NPC that gave it to you to advance.
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>>161792231
>No way they'll do that again, right?
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>>161792305

Actually, in Dark Souls 2, it was because jumping was tied to camera angle. If you were looking down or up while jumping, it would significantly reduce the horizontal travel distance.
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>>161792231
>No way they'll do that again, right?
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>>161792352
Right?
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>>161792352
>>161792482
Stop guys it's not funny, no way miyazaki could do it twice and get away with it, Right?
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Well shit
looks like you can get fucked even when pulling the plug
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>>161792664
>>161792457

Do you have the Nito sippy comic?s
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>>161792902
>has system so that if you disconnect a lot
>and it has to be A LOT
>of times you get severed from the normal server and get to go on the banned server

>disconnects A LOT
>gets moved to bunned server

What the fuck did you expect?
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>>161789857
>Even though the game is literally geared towards invading hosts with phantoms I am so incapable of admitting defeat that I will deny reality
Ok.
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>>161792902
Yup, been a thing since DS2. I'm amazed it hasn't happened to me in 3 since that shit game disconnects from the internet all the time for no apparent reason. Recently I even got a message telling me that I'm not allowed to be in the DLC despite the fact that I was in Irithyll and I own an edition of the game that came with the season pass.

After well over a decade of dealing with From's sloppiness I really shouldn't be surprised by things like this.
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>>161793185
>the game is literally geared towards invading hosts with phantoms

I never said otherwise, I took issue with a general statement that you made based on the fact that DS3 does this. DS2 does it too but nobody ever cared because From didn't make a huge point about it. If you're incapable of even comprehending why I'm criticizing your logic then there's no point in continuing this.
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>>161787373
>only 1 vote for DeS
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>meta went from stupid curved sword shit while I was away to everyone abusing hyper armor with infinite endurance

lovely, time to fuck around in the forest on 1.
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>>161793736
I'm sure it's a lot of people's second or third favorite.
>more votes for lords of the fallen than DeS
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>>161793045
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>>161793835
Just wait until you run into hallowslayer GS with the idiotic hyper armor, on a havel monster with endurance stack.
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Did someone say HIGH QUALITY ART?
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>>161793846
Is this based on an actual experience someone had?
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>>161793846
>not just carrying life gems
it's your own fault for using estus.
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>>161793846

I've only been able to dodge that attack once.
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>>161787373
>Dark Souls 1 over Bloodborne
I can't help but think that's just because most people started with Dark Souls 1, aside from the dumbass vial system BB blew DS1 out of the water.
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>>161792902
Get shat on, queerlord
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>>161794398

That's a dark souls I boss you mongoloid
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>>161793842
>there are people who liked lords of the fallen
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>>161794412
Lots of people haven't played bloodborne since it's a console exclusive and /dsg/ is filled with xboners and pc users.
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>>161794398
>DaS1
>life gems
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>>161794059

Any bosses?
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>>161794551
Not just console exclusive, console exclusive to a machine where bloodborne is the only notable exclusive it has.
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please, tips for Lord of Cinder

I don't quite get the dodge timings on the curved blade he has, especially with the homing soul mass active with it

and the double spin with the spear fucks me up
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>>161794492

There was no Shadow Tower/King's Field choice so I picked Lords of the Fallen out of spite.
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>>161794485
>>161794557
Wow that's weird i completely missed the hat and wand, i thought it was the last giant.
>>161794585
I got you
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>blighttown's cragspiders can drop soft humanity, something normally restricted to humanoid enemies
What does it mean?
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>>161795078
They're horrifically mutated humanoids

Or maybe they just collect humanity
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>>161794585
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>>161795078

It means the game is unfinished.

Here's another shocker. That liquid you're stepping on in blighttown isn't water or mud, it's Blight Pus
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>>161795078
They can? Something to do with them being children of chaos and chaos is known to be linked to humanity
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>>161794551
Good point, without Lucy here constantly playing console warrior it's easy to forget that.

Still, I do think a lot of people dickride DS1 because it was their first From fantasy game in what's basically a twenty year string of From making the same game. For instance, Allant, Gwyn, and Vendrick were arguably all based on the Forest King from KF4 (who might be based on someone from an older game that I don't even remember). He starts fucking around with Dark for the same reasons that Allant did and sacrifices himself for the same reason Gwyn did (incidentally sealing off a city by flooding it) after going through a transformation that mirrored Vendrick's. IIRC Vendrick even directly quotes the Forest King at least once.
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>>161795193
>All the artwork on the top and favorite are dark souls 3 bosses and fucking artorias
god damnit
But this one is still really nice but to big to post here.
http://imgur.com/jRcBMDH
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>>161795193
>we all thought yhorm would be a big guy in the plot as well in stature
>had his own figure in the priciest edition
>everyone hyped him to hell and back

>propaned capital is full of ds2 references
Hmm. Hmmm... Hmmmmmm
Quite the pickle
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>>161795570
I like siegward more than siegmeyer
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How are you expected to doge and attack this aggressive guy using an ultra greatweapon when you can roll literally twice with 40 end and stamina regenerates so damn slowly? Every other boss in this game was easy before, but I'm having so much trouble now.
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>>161795895

Took me like 30 deaths to beat him. Just bait him into combos and chip away at him.

I think his second phase is actually easier than the first, since he has less consecutive attack chains.
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>>161795895
Raime was a good scrub wall
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>>161795895
>you can roll literally twice with 40 end

What's the point of coming here to make up shit to complain about? I have a character open right now who has 21 END and she can roll 4 times, 5 if there's any delay between 2 of the rolls.
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>>161795895
I miss some of DS2's redesigns, that molten fume sword looks really good.
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>>161795775
Siegward is much better than Siegmeyer, he can actually get shit done outside of his fuckups.
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>>161787540
>>161787812
>>161788337

>implying the Souls games are based on plebbit-tier console trash
>implying they aren't more like a 3D King's Field

Shit, get it together, anons.
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>>161795775
Siegward is straight up better than siegmeyer on all accounts, you don't need to spoiler that shot like it's done unpopular opinion
>>161795895
Reimu is the artorias of 2. You need to git gud. Observe his patterns, don't just dodge blindly. There are a bunch of attacks that will miss you completely if you stick close to him. I've beaten him with GH and UGS and I'm a bad player, it's possible
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>>161796293
>zelda and castlevania are console trash
>king's field isn't
?
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>>161796293
IIRC there was a single KF game released for PC and I'm fairly certain it was only released in Japan. A quick look at Wikipedia seems to confirm this.

Are you trying to false flag or what?
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>>161796275
>>161796462
I didn't know people felt this way, glad we all agree.
>>
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>>161796820
>Rogue Warrior

DS2 really spawned some top tier animations.
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>>161795895
Manage your stamina carefully.
In phase 1, it's better to just retreat out of range of his small sword combos rather than trying to stay close and iframe through them all. You save stamina that way and he typically leaves himself open at the end of a string anyways. Take advantage of your weapon's reach to get hits without staying so close that you need to roll 4 times to avoid a combo.

In phase 2, his combo chains are typically shorter and you don't need to rely as much on iframes, so stamina shouldn't be an issue. Just don't fuck up.
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>>161797091
>looks like they made this game easier for casuals
>Holy shi-
>IS THIS TOO EASY FOR YOU?
>ya know i actually think the game seems pretty challenging
God damn dude i can't believe i remember that video.
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>>161794485
not him but i never saw a boss like this
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Goddamn, Claymore running attack will forever be my favorite usable attack. Never gets old.
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>>161797756

Gravelord Nito literally has an attack where he shots a spike up at you while going

>eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>
How much punishment from Yhorm can Siegward take during that fight if he shows up to finish off his questline?
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>>161797842
>gravelord nito
>having a wizard hat and wand
oh ok
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>>161797958
That's the player, fuck nut.
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>>161798252
Make up your fucking mind
>>
Greatsword or cathedral sword?
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>>161795493
>>161796293
Shut the fuck up.

Nobody fucking cares about king's field. Nobody ever cared about king's field. The reason that souls games are popular now whereas king's field never was is not a fucking twist of fate. It's because they are not "the same game". "DURR IT'S THE SAME CUZ LORE". Shut up.
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>>161797435
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>>161798425
>The reason that souls games are popular now whereas king's field never was is not a fucking twist of fate.

No shit, it's called marketing you salty bitch.
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>>161798425
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>>161798471
Boss weapons?
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>>161798871
BOSS WEAPONS!
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>>161798887
Where do you live?!
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>>161798425

The games wouldn't exist because of King's Field
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>>161798631
No, it's because they're completely different fucking games, which play completely differently. Nobody would give a shit about dark souls if it were a sluggish first person dungeon crawler. People were attracted to demon's souls because of its combat system first and foremost, which bears ZERO RESEMBLANCE to king's field.

You dipshits who keep bringing up king's field are just trying to signal your "superior" gaming knowledge over all the plebs. But you never talk about games like wizardry, or ultima underworld, the games which inspired king's field, because you don't actually give a fuck about those kinds of games. You just want to show off.
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>>161798950
Lordrangleicarthus.
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>>161798950
Rrright down the road!
>>
Demon's Souls is probably my favorite Kings Field game
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So to get summoned as a blue faggot, I just have to equip the insignia, right? Because I have for hours and it's fucking nothing.
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>>161799317
There are way more people trying to get summoned as blues than there are people willing to put on way of blue when they get invaded.
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>>161799145
I never said that the combat was the same, now you're being a pedantic salty bitch. What's worse is that you're taking "the same game" literally but if I'd put "literally the same game" you probably wouldn't be sperging right now.

>You dipshits who keep bringing up king's field are just trying to signal your "superior" gaming knowledge over all the plebs. But you never talk about games like wizardry, or ultima underworld, the games which inspired king's field, because you don't actually give a fuck about those kinds of games. You just want to show off.

Ooooh, look who saw IGN's "secret origin of Dark Souls" video.

Way to show off Anon.
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Dark Souls II is my favorite King's Field game
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>>161770472
>>161770721
scaly
half-dragon
pussy
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>>161799175
Guess we'll see you there/
>>
>ds3 soundtrack was produced entirely on computer with already existing sample libraries

are there any fucking interviews or anything whatsoever clues from the composers about what they used? even in japanese, a shitty google translate will do

the only thing i have managed to figure out 100% is the male choir library
>>
What was your draw to this series?

What is your favorite things about this series?

What is your least favorite part of this series?

What made you post in this thread?
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>>161796462
>Reimu
For a moment I was all "haha funny joke" but then I looked it up and his name in the original Japanese descriptions is literally レイム.

There's a nonzero chance that this is why he has that one swirly bullet pattern attack.
>>
SO after buying DaS last year I'm finally getting to it now that I got a good controller for it (something just tells me that Keyboard/Mouse isn't stellar for this game).

Is there a way I can play offline without forever looking like walking beef jerky? I'm just playing this game for the atmosphere/lore ride and, having satellite for net, constant invasions would be awful for likely everyone involved.
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>>161798425
This is why /vg/ is worse than /v/ sometimes
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>>161799541
You joke, but DaS2 had a shitton of references to a spiritual tree of dreams, and Shulva is basically a King's Field level.
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>>161799846
you're not going to get invaded
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>tfw left dsg for a while
>tfw came back today
>entire souls community is dying and popularity of the IP is dwindling
Its actually pretty fitting that it goes down this way, to be honest.
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>>161799846
If you don't use your humanity at a bonfire you will be playing in offline mode
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>>161799739
>What was your draw to this series
I played demon souls a long time ago, never played a single other game until my friend bought me dark souls 3 to play with him. I enjoyed it.
>What is your favorite thing about the series
The characters and the voice acting just make the game pop out and feel so great.
>What is your least favorite part of the series
How samey the games look and feel, bloodborne was a nice change of pace from the same medieval set.
>What made you post in this thread
Browsing for new generals since one of my favorites died i found this one and everyone was so hyped for dark souls 3 it was a genuinely great time, it's sad to see how unhappy people turned out over the game here.
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>>161799846
You can go offline on Steam. If you play without DSCM, the game will have a really hard time connecting to anyone, so you'll likely never see invasions even if you do play online.
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>>161799479
>Ooooh, look who saw IGN's "secret origin of Dark Souls" video.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

King's Field has no practical similarities to souls games. Nothing carries over except for lore ideas, and vague sensibilities. The actual mechanics and structure of the game is entirely dissimilar. That's not being "pedantic". Souls is 90% nothing like king's kield, so you stuck up shitheads blathering on about how "souls is basically just king's field" are basically just fucking idiots.

And again, if king's field is so fucking relevant to souls discussion because "souls wouldn't exist without king's field", then that ought to extend to earlier dungeon crawlers which inspired king's field, and the games which inspired them, all the way back to fucking dungeons and dragons and J.R.R. Tolkien.
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are there any resources for seeing the exact drop rate for items in dark souls 1? the wikis only say "very rare" or "rare". there are no numbers.
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>>161799863
Parallels between King's Field: The Ancient City and Dark Souls II

>Both have a well in the starting town that will kill you if you jump down initially but later leads to a new area.
>Both have a building in the starting area with a hidden room in the basement containing a single skeleton.
>Both have a door (or doors) that require you present the symbol of the king to progress.
>Both have a lightning-filled hallway leading to a late-game boss encounter.
>Both feature maps of a sort with flames that light up on them as you complete certain objectives (in KF:TAC, it's an indicator of what spells you've learned)
>Both have stones that must be inserted in devices in order for them to operate (in KF:TAC, only pillars with stones in them can be warped between)


For instance, the Forest King in KF4 was the basis for Allant (used the power of dark to make his kingdom prosper, with predictable results), Gwyn (sacrificed himself to temporarily stave off the age of Dark), and Vendrick (realized that light & dark were inseparable and directly correlated).

You could probably piece together Dark Souls 1 and 2 from sections of the KF games, everything from Artorias to the mushroom men to New Londo to the manikins to the giant's golems was pretty much lifted straight out of FROM's old games. Even Aldrich's pain-in-the-ass arrow attack from DS3 is from KF.
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>>161789576
source on this?
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>>161800025
Usually that just means you're working with around 1-2% droprate
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>>161798425
wasn't Sony against Demon's Souls and refused to localize it?
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>>161799739
>What was your draw to this series?

It reminded me of some game(s) I played on PS2 I think, but I can never remember which one(s). It's a very strange memory and feeling, but once I saw ds1 and ds2 gameplay videos something instantly triggered in me like I had played such games before so I had to go play them. I still haven't figured out what older games I'm being reminded of, but I keep thinking of some third person rpg with some similar medieval theme with armor and castles and such

>What is your favorite things about this series?

the ridiculous amount of hidden and secret bullshit, playing these games completely blind and attempting for 100% was the best game experience I've had so far

>What is your least favorite part of this series?

the pvp, and after playing ds1 and going into ds2 and ds3 and being spoiled with teleporting, it ruined it a bit for me

>What made you post in this thread?
fuck you

also ds1>ds2 dlc>ds3>ds2
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>>161795895
>my boy raime still smashing shitters to this day
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>>161800298
That's a boy isn't it
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>>161800298
What is this image trying to convey
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>>161800393
Does it matter?
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>>161800393
>>161800418
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>>161800489
I actually recognize that boy, he got fat.
>i know this boy and have him on steam
kek
>>161800428
Yes lying is wrong anon.
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Why does my scythe have 600 ar but only do around 100 a hit
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>>161791249
The early areas are actually the worst ones.
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>>161800582
Does it have magic/fire/lightning damage?
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>starting to kind of get into DS2 pvp
>fights have been fun so far and I haven't ran into any annoying bullshit
>fight some chink piece of shit
>he is literally across the entire iron bridge and stabbing me to death with an estoc 500000 miles away
>fight some mexican piece of shit
>floats in the air and magically one shots me

I'm jealous japanese players can restrict their fights to only other japanese players, holy fuck fuck foreign connections
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>>161800774
It's Friedes so yeah
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>>161800797
That's the thing about split damage. A weapon like that is going to be very ineffective against an enemy resistant to magic.
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>>161775167
>>161791249
>>161791341
>>161775337
Dark Souls 2 has the best design and is the most memorable, prove me wrong
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>>161799739
>What was your draw to this series?
I liked the atmosphere and word of mouth said it was actually challenging

>What is your favorite things about this series?
actually engaging gameplay and unique multiplayer mechanics

>What is your least favorite part of this series?
How the lore is just intriguing enough that it pisses you off how half-assed it is.

>What made you post in this thread?
boredom and lewds
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>>161800018
>I have no idea what you're talking about.

That's likely a lie.

>structure of the game is entirely dissimilar

You're a lone warrior in an isolated kingdom where some bad shit went down a long time ago and it's currently messing up the world and you're the only one who can fix what's wrong. There's fog and undead everywhere and everyone seems like they're lying to you and/or using you and no matter what you do you can't fix things permanently because some dick might come along later and fuck things up again.

Which From game am I talking about?

>if king's field is so fucking relevant to souls discussion because "souls wouldn't exist without king's field", then that ought to extend to earlier dungeon crawlers which inspired king's field, and the games which inspired them, all the way back to fucking dungeons and dragons and J.R.R. Tolkien.

There's that pedantry again, you may as well say that Pong belongs here too because it was a major step in vidya. I can't help but notice that you're constantly glossing over the fact that I never said that the games played exactly the same, you keep setting up an argument that I didn't make and then knocking it down and doing a hamfisted job of it at that. There's not a single person on the planet who thinks that gameplay in pretty much any given series doesn't change over time, what I'm talking about is reusing enemies and locations and characters, even to the point of having characters share names and use the same lines.

Maybe have a nice tall glass of get the fuck over yourself.
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>>161800886
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>>161800028
>I posted some of this on /v/ a while ago
>I'm pasta now

Nito
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>>161800886
>Best design
Subjective..
>most memorable
Probably because it was your first (my assumption)
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>>161800886
it is. i keep thinking about it the most out of all 3 games. it felt like a very large world with all the different unique areas and the dlcs make it amazing
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>>161801061
>dat webm
I lol everytime at how this guy owned himself
ebin
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>>161801061
>look at this webm of me deliberately running into a trap
>lol das2 amirite guys?
ffs, with all the things that are actually wrong with that game i'll never understand why people bother with this kind of thing.
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>>161800582
1. it doesn't do both the magic and the physical damage unless you're doing the weapon art / stance combo

2. it's a scythe and as such has a sweet spot

3. stop using the 2hr1
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About to make a hyper bbs build.

How exactly does it scale? Does luck push other stat scaling up? I'm kind of unsure what luck to stop at or even stats to use in general.

I was thinking about something like
40/18/45/45/30
str/dex/mag/fai/luk
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I've never played anything that needed casting of any sort, and want to be a gay battlemage.

Please rate, and no, I don't know what I"m doing
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>>161801842
>How exactly does it scale?
primarily with luck, the other stats scale poorly
>Does luck push other stat scaling up?
to a very minor extent
>I'm kind of unsure what luck to stop
30 or 40, depends on if you're going to a certain level or not

leveling MAG is more important than luck at first as you'll always want it buffed

don't level STR, DEX, or FAI past 18, not worth it

you want to use insanity catalyst light weapon

https://mugenmonkey.com/demonssouls/4525
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>>161802425
>Battlemage
>37 VIG but only 24 ATT
>Knight ring
>Obligatory offhand caestus
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>>161802951
24 ATT is fine. That's what my MLGS spellsword uses.
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how do i kill dancer of the boreal valley i am level 90 with 7+ refined brigand axe and 41/41 str and dex
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>>161803695
Learn to abuse the crazy dodge iframes and stick close to her so lots of her attacks miss.
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>>161803771
alright i can get past the first phase easily its the second phase that is giving me trouble
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>be in painted world of ariandel
>go to that place with the tower and all the millwood knights
>never done it before
>start climbing the tower
>get to second archer
>no space to fight him
>try
>he launches me down the tower and I die
>go back, kite him to a lower level with more space
>attacks non-stop until I'm out of stamina then launches me down the tower and I die
>go back
>equip dragonslayer greatbow
>shoot him in the fucking back
>he turns around, starts nocking an arrow
>I shoot him another time
>pushes him off the tower
>wait about 5 seconds
>+2550 souls

I came.
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>>161803695

This fight...

Oh boy. Time for some truth. Fuck the waifufags. Fuck all the idiots. I'm going to say it: Dancer is one of the worst, if not THE worst boss fight in Dark Souls 3. Oh, on an aesthetic level, it's brilliant. The music, the sound effects, the way the boss moves, the design, etc. But gameplay mechanics wise? Holy shit, I've tried. I've tried to see it as a well designed boss fight. It isn't. It just fucking isn't.

I mean who the fuck thought it was a good idea to give the boss the ability to go from its idle, "look at my ass" position to hitting you with its swords for 1000+ health in one frame? I fucking frapsed it, at 60 FPS, it goes from idle to sword through you in one frame. There is NO fucking warning. The boss can randomly decide to ruin your attempt and there's nothing you can fucking do about it.

But that's not all. It's also impossible to tell when you have an attack window. After using one of its absurdly counter-intuitive attacks (Am I going to rear back for one second before I swing? Three seconds? 0.2 seconds? HAVE FUN ROLLING THE DICE!), the animation it uses to go back into its idle stance IS THE FUCKING SAME AS THE ANIMATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL SWING. AND IT'S TOTALLY RANDOM WHETHER SHE SWINGS AGAIN OR NOT.

So you're left picking to either take your chance to land one swing and get your lungs torn out because she decided to swing again, or rolling preemptively (since there is no fucking way to tell whether she's about to swing or go back into idle stance) and losing your window of opportunity, because she just fucking LOVES only giving you enough time to land one swing before attacking again.

This boss was clearly designed with multiplayer in mind. Trying to wrap my head around what was wrong with the guy who designed this, all I can think of is that they EXPECTED people to always go in there with two phantoms to help distract the boss. This fucking fight was never designed to be solo'd. Soloing it is a crapshoot at best.
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>>161801356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKrli-EvCdk
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>>>161803750

III has more plug-pullers
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>>161803921
when she starts doing her twirly dance that takes forever just fucking run, don't try to dodge
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>>161804072
Is this copy pasta or is this just another instance of me finding the bosses everyone has trouble with easy and the ones everyone says are easy hard?
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>>161801356

>a trap

Running through that place is the only way to get certain items. It's not a trap, it's a gauntlet, and it's glitchy as all fuck.
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>>161804125
>35 minutes

>>161804421
It's not glitchy, you were just too heavy and slow.
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>>161804472

>you
>implying I even bothered trying that bullshit after my first attempt
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>>161804125
>last giant
>he's not the last
>somehow it's giant lord even though i never impaled him with a pillar when i fought him in the past
>the weapon from his soul has nothing in common with anything he's using
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>>161804409
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/fuck%20waifufags%20idiots%20aesthetic/

It's maturing like fine cheese, give it time
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>>161804421
Read as: I couldn't figure out the trap and it's the game's fault.

Pull the lever once and all the enemies die, pull the lever twice and you can run through.

It's really that simple.
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>>161804769

>Just pull the lever twice!

So you're saying you haven't played that part.
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>>161804664
>>somehow it's giant lord even though i never impaled him with a pillar when i fought him in the past
You just fought a simulation in a memory.
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>>161804125
the tl;dw is that, "eh, both, [DS1 and DS2] have some good points and some bad points."
Waste of 35mins.
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I miss Gavlan.
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>>161805314
>that Gavlan feel
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>>161784090
>>161785393
A +14 weapon? No, not quite like that. But I was helping a friend through NG Crucifixion Woods, and got invaded. After eventually running him out of estus he stopped attacking, dropped a whole shit ton of good loot (+2 Rings, AoA boss weapons, etc) and BC'd out. I heard taking hacked items from invaders could really mess you up, so I'm cautious about the rings I got, but at the same time was under the impression that the hacking was exclusive to the PC version of the game
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>Farron dog invading in the Cathedral grave
The fuck?
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>>161805007
Well I went back to play it just to make sure and it looks like you can't pull it twice, which is odd because I distinctly remember being able to do so.

Point withdrawn.
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>>161805314
There are more edits on this isn't there
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>>161795493
>Without Lucy here constantly playing console warrior
Despite his BB shilling he seems to generally rank DS1 over BB or as an equal.
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I miss indictions and having a mechanic that put you more at risk for invasions for certain behavior
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>>161800797
>>161800882
Not even that, friede's has deceivingly high ar. Only the physical scythe deals physical damage and only the ethereal scythe deals magic. If you use it untricked in an int build, you're gonna deal shit for damage
>>161804472
>not glitchy
You can get denied from passing through when your character clearly fits
>>161804664
Maybe the soldiers of drangleic did that later out of spite
>>161805018
Clearly not, since you actually gain the kinship
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>>161805781
>You can get denied from passing through when your character clearly fits
That's not a glitch, just a crap boundingbox
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>>161799863
>>161800028

They brought Naotoshi Zin, the lead designer of King's Field to help out with the DS2 DLCs especially.
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>>161805907
Best move ever.
Can we have a brand new Soulslike game designed from the ground up from scratch with Naotoshi Zin as lead director?
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>>161805781
>Clearly not, since you actually gain the kinship
a memory is good enough for that
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I want to do a new DS3 run, what should my character be?

Should I try STR Pyromancy? Post an image that lets me roll for it ;_;
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>>161799863
Goddamn I love Shulva.
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>>161805907
And it clearly showed how different KF and DS are. Zin's levels are good, but they are only suited for singleplayer experience. Invading in DLCs is a major clusterfuck because all 3 DLCs can majorly screw you from even reaching the host, Shulva especially. I hope they will make a singleplayer KF successor with him going wild and not being bound by garbage DS2 version of the engine.
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>>161805907
fuck, is that true? Hope the do the same thing again for AC6
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>>161805984
>STR Pyromancy
No. Either STR or pyromancy. Don't mix.
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>>161805984
Do str pyromancy, you have some good weapons that fit your build. Or you could carthus flame buff some str weapon.
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>>161806135
TOO LATE ITS HABBENING
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Fuck, I've literally tried to fight Friede 15 times now. I've never died this many times to a souls boss ever.
I've got the first phase down to perfection, I can do it reliably without even taking damage.
Second phase I usually have to use a few flasks, but I never die.

THIRD PHASE THOUGH
FUCK
It doesn't matter if I have 6 or 12 flasks left, she just keeps up the pressure too well, always kills me before I can heal, either by whacking me right when I think I'm safe to heal, or by attacking so many times right after I attacked her that I just flat out run out of stamina from dodging and die.

Any tips for fighting her third phase with an UGS? Should I just switch to my Drakeblood Greatsword instead? Cathedral Knight Greatsword gets me through those first two phases perfectly but for the first time through this whole game I actually feel as if it's just flat out too slow for me to reliably use.
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>>161805775
>indictions

Indictments Anon, and I damn well agree.

>No more indictments
>No more guilt-free invasions as you invade sinners
>Invasion has no real drawbacks since Dorkmoons may as well just be blue sentinels now

>>161805653
That's because he lives and breathes memes. I wouldn't trust his opinion on BB anyways, people in /bbg/ used to post his progress (via PSN trophies) and he seems to have spent more time NEVER EVER posting than actually playing the game.
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What's a good FTH Build for PvE/PvP?
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>>161806245
The drawback to invasions in DaS 3 is having to play DaS 3 invasions
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>>161805953
You also gain physical items and the last giant recognizes you, which is why he goes berserk
>>161806135
>not playing as a large club+pyro shaman
Shig
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>>161806306
>and the last giant recognizes you, which is why he goes berserk
You don't know that
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>>161806282
Bloodlust with 24 att for repeated WAs
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>>161806296
DS3's invasions are fine, the only thing From could do to make them better is not halve estus for invaders and phantoms and remove the hornet ring from the game.
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>>161798376
Cathedral knight. Better str scaling, and lighter.
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>>161806034
It's possible that most of Dark Souls 2 (barring the transitional levels) would've turned out to be good or roughly on par with the DLCs if they had had a competent director from the start instead of Shibuya's nonsense. Iron Keep as it is in the base game feels like an intern made a
custom map mod for DS2 using leftover Brume Tower assets and that's probably what it was.

Like, Shulva was cut from being a continuation to Shrine of Amana.
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>>161806483
Make estus punishable, make phantoms unable to estus during invasions like in DaS 3. Bring back sin.

Done.
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>>161806521
Huh. Any idea where Eleum Loyce was originally meant to fall?
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>>161806521
There's quite lot of models of beta levels in game files designed by Shibuya's team and they are a lot more interesting than the ones we got. Tanimura's team seems to be the one mostly made from interns, this explains amateurish level design mistakes like elevator to the sky and overall blandness of the game.
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>>161806553
>Make estus punishable
Will only hurt an invader.
>make phantoms unable to estus during invasions
Will MAJORLY screw over invaders.
Thank god you're not a designer.
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>>161806670
Estus needs to be punishable though. 2 did it perfectly on this, didn't need to change.
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>>161806521

And things were cut. Like how in the trailer the Cursed One was in a dragon nest, and he crossed a bridge that was raining.
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>>161806349
I do. But tell you what; we'll say that going in the memory, you changed it (but not the actual past) so he THOUGHT you were the one
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>>161806553
I'd be fine with making estus punishable but IMO everyone should just have their max drinks.
>>
memehackzaki
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>>161806483
>not halve Estus for invaders and phantoms
Ugh no. The fights in DS3 are already too long because of the easily abusable Estus. If an invader can't finish a host with 7 Estus he's a shit.

The thing is, to 'fix' DS3 PvP you'd need to nerf the rolls, nerf Estus or nerf summoning, all of which are crippling the PvE which is the most important aspect of Souls, the pvp is an afterthought.

And Hornet Ring is absolutely vital for invaders since it allows you to one-shot phantoms.
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>>161806759
>Estus needs to be punishable
Not with the speeds of DS3, it will fuck over entire pve.
The only way i see estus being nerfed is by giving it instability frames when a pvp opponent hits you so if you take a hit during estus animation your health gets demolished.
>2 did it perfectly on this
2 introduced moving while healing and lifegems, fuck off back to your dead game.
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>roll catch people 80% of the time they try to run
>they just keep spam rolling and somehow get off estus every now and again
>I do the same thing
>host with a straightsword just spams r1 and hits me every time for 1/4 my health
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>>161806670
>Will only hurt an invader.
It hurts both but invaders are likely to be better off since they tend t be higher skilled and more aggressive.

>Will MAJORLY screw over invaders.
Not if it's just whites and blues.
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>>161806893
I don't want lifegems, we are talking about estus.
Estus in 2 was perfect. Even moving it was punishable.
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>>161806796
Invader needs to have a better ratio of estus flasks than phantoms. Giving him full estus is moronic, but giving 1.5 ratio instead of 2 would change a lot of things. Leave flasks unchanged for white phantoms.
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>>161806893
Making DaS 3 a bloodborne-lite was a mistake.

>2 introduced moving while healing and lifegems, fuck off back to your dead game.
Both of which are far less obnoxious than healing in DaS 3. What's your point?
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>>161806835
why is an invader with 30% health penalty and unembered shit if he can't beat a host with 100% stats + ember and 15 flasks?
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>>161806934
>It hurts both
It won't hurt the host or the phantoms, they can always cover each other's healing. You can't especially if they used the seed. We already went through it in DS2 where either hosts covered phantoms using heal miracles or phantoms covered hosts using estus or lifegems.
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Just bring back real poise and all this is fixed.
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>>161806204
she's weak to backstabs (very easy to land) and bleeds
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>>161806772
>Dragon nest
What is Dragon Aerie? I know, it's not as impressive as in the trailer, but it has those rope bridges and dragon nests.

>>161806602
I dunno, that could've been "original dlc content" but I believe that Eleum Loyce used the cut DeS Archstone "Northern Limit"-materials.

Eleum Loyce came as the last DLC.
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Reminder that 3 relies on artificial emotions through nostalgia
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>>161807046
You didn't tend to encounter hosts with a ganksquad of permanent phantoms in DaS 2 and the phantoms couldn't estus. You have a really selective memory.

>>161807086
Artificial Emotions is an artificial new meme but I like it
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where can i coop as sl65 +10? i need lots of souls
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is dancer easier on NG+ or can I be proud of myself that I killed her on first attempt onNG+ right after I killed Vordt?
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>>161807110
>You didn't tend to encounter hosts with a ganksquad of permanent phantoms in DaS 2
There was a shitload of hosts with phantoms during random DS2 invasions everywhere and they were much larger pain in the ass than DS3 ganks because of crawl slow speed of the game and lack of natural healing for invader.
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>>161807214
before all the edgy responds and that the game is easy and we should all kill ourself

yeah you did great anon, good job
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Will 40vig/40end/35dex+ring/40 int work well for Friede or should I put more in one of the above? I have a few points to spare
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>>161806992
>15 flasks
Nigger you don't get that many flasks unless you're literally 90% done with the game. Also you're not the only concern for the host, he has to clear the level, possibly more invaders and the boss with that Estus.
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>>161807239
>There was a shitload of hosts with phantoms during random DS2 invasions everywhere and they were much larger pain in the ass than DS3 ganks because of crawl slow speed of the game and lack of natural healing for invader.
Man the anti-DaS 3 memesters are delusional.
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>>161807086

In DkS1, instead of artificial emotion, you hear this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIUjKhLTi9w
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>>161807278
at pontiff everyone has max flasks, you can also speedgrab most of the flasks and bones in the game no problem at lvl 10 as long as you dont suck at killing dancer
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>>161807278
you mean his phantoms have to do that
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Is the ruler's sword any good?
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what are some good weapons for str/int? I'm a sorcerer but I am used to melee from runs in previous games that I always went melee, but I wanna try mixing with spells
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>>161807332
>at pontiff
who fucking cares about pontiff after SL50+6
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>>161807278
more than half the people you invade have already cleared the level and are waiting for you, or they turn on seed and let you do it for them while they camp and wait for a triple ambush
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>>161807312
I want Paine to violate me
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>>161807332
But that's not the average player. The invasions are designed to target PvE retards.
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>>161807395
>str/int
this was never a thing aside from one garbage ds1 catalyst
go str/fai
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>>161807413
where the hell else are you supposed to invade past 50 to get non-snail queues
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>>161807395

1. Moonlight Greatsword

2. Watcher Greatsword

3. Greatsword of Judgement
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>>161806835
>you'd need to nerf the rolls, nerf Estus or nerf summoning, all of which are crippling the PvE

Do you mean "would cripple"? Because I feel like a slight Estus nerf wouldn't be that harmful.

>And Hornet Ring is absolutely vital for invaders since it allows you to one-shot phantoms.

That's exactly why it's bullshit. People shouldn't be able to stroll into my game and lose 99% of a fight only to get a lucky caestus parry at the end and pull a victory out of their ass. The presence of the hornet ring alongside EZ parries has devolved the PvP into the same critstick/ultra weapon crit fishing that made DS1's PvP so stale.

What's more, invaders will usually have a build purpose-built for killing people and won't put the cheese away when they encounter a lone host.

>>161806980
>giving 1.5 ratio instead of 2 would change a lot of things. Leave flasks unchanged for white phantoms

Great, so when I get invaded early on the invader will have more sips than me and my phantom combined. Not that this doesn't already happen.

Why is it that everyone's idea of balancing invaders is giving them instakills and more health?
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>>161807484
if you're invading past 70-75, you're already screwing yourself from majority of activity
and at those levels entirety of castle, peak and ariandel are active with occasional hosts in smouldering lake
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why are SL levels so low? like why is Farron swamps sl 20-30, I coulda been 45+ there easy but I spent my souls on literally anything else to not get past it because I wanted swordgrass

my point is, why isnt SL in farron 40+ when thats what you should be if you spend your souls
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>>161807426
If you invade a gank, just Black Crystal out. Organized ganks are going to obviously be shit for a lone invader.
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>>161807538
>Great, so when I get invaded early on the invader will have more sips than me and my phantom combined
if you're getting invaded early you're utterly fucked either way, a few more flasks won't change anything, i've murdered 4 man gank teams with passworded butt buddies on high wall without wasting even a half of my estus count
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>>161807214
the entire game is easier on NG+ nigger.
What the fuck do you think starting with full equipment at around 60+ would do?

>>161807249
this man is lieing to you, the game is harder on NG than NG+ shit doesn't scale at all
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What was the logic behind making armor non-upgradable in DaS3?
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>>161807384
I want a dark waifu :(
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>>161807729

You need a huge stack of souls
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>>161807667
upgradable armors are a retarded resource sink, there's no point in them unless you want to need even more slabs to upgrade everything you want
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>>161807789
So you're saying I should seek souls? Seek larger, more powerful souls?
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>>161807667
Because Bloodborne. That said, I agree with the first response and I'm not sad to see armor upgrades go.
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>>161807667
Armor doesn't do anything in DaS 3 anyway. Memezaki hates armor and magic.

>>161807801
There's more titanite available than you need by a lot if you're doing NG+ cycles.
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>>161807882
>There's more titanite available than you need by
not everyone farms angels for hours
thank god the pointless tedium of armor upgrades is gone
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>>161807538
The stuff about the Hornet Ring lets out that you don't get the intention of invasions. You SHOULD me using 'cheap tricks' to fuck over hosts. You're not a winner until you actually finish the fight, it's not boxing match where the judges count votes for "good play".

Duel like a duelist, invade like an invader. The invader should go full speed on the host, lone or not instead of pulling punches on solo hosts. The culture of intimidating solo hosts while you had +5 Lightning weapons at the Burg and practically unlimited heals compared to the host made invaders soft because they pretty much always had the advantage.
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I love invading in DS1 :)
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>fuck you fromsoft DLC was too easy, it's not my fault I summoned 3 phantoms and was on standard NG while being SL 120

heh
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>>161808025
I still haven't beat Friede solo yet
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why the headless statues everywhere?

what do they mean lorewise?
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>>161808090
Does Gael count?
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>>161808121
it's just some weird-ass ritual of lothric knights which became only a formality a long time ago
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>co-oping Friede and Ariandel
>host starts watching the cutscene of the bossfight
>put controller down to check my phone for a second
>half-way through the host, in a spontanious eruption of ADD, decides to skip the cutscene
>get insta-smashed by the giant screeching scotsman

EVERY
SINGLE
TIME

At least in 1 everyone had to agree before skipping
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>>161808126
No
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Someone willing to drop me Anris Str8 sword on PS4?
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>>161808126
Having even an NPC makes boss fights significantly easier because you can just whack the bosses in the back while they aggro the NPC
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>>161808213
>having a phone
>cooping
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>>161808126
Yes, he makes battle significantly easier.
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>>161808337
Muh slab tho
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>>161808213
Who the fuck wants to watch that cutscene after the 50th time? It was your fault for napping mid-battle.
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>>161806204
just circle around her by walking to her right
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>tfw can't beat soul of cinder for the life of me
how did i get so far being so shit

i thought first lifebar was the only lifebar
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No matter how you fiddle with estus, the problem will remain that low levels fuck over hosts while high levels fuck over invaders. Invader estus should be the host's estus at the moment of invasion and invaders should retain half the ember hp
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>>161807656
>if you're getting invaded early you're utterly fucked either way, a few more flasks won't change anything

I disagree, I'm decent enough to handle most invaders even if they have tons of max sips. My issue is that phantoms early on (which is the only time I bother summoning) fold up quickly because they have 1 or 2 sips and that just feeds the invader. I'd rather everyone just have full sips, invaders might start out with a lot more but a few extra sips on phantoms would make them way more effective than they are now and I'd be willing to make that tradeoff.

>>161807987
>The stuff about the Hornet Ring lets out that you don't get the intention of invasions.

Ah, the good old "if you don't like it then you must not get it" defense.

I occasionally dick around with a level 20 twink who uses the hornet ring with a mailbreaker, I know exactly how broken that shit is which is why I think what I think. The hornet ring is bad game design.
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this dlc is pretty lewd
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>>161808267
pls guise
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>>161808596
don't give up , skeleton!
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>>161808658
>he actually summons phantoms
>he actually cries about invaders
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>>161808596
his wombo combo in 2nd phase is bullshit desu
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>>161806204
>Should I just switch to my Drakeblood Greatsword instead?

Why I see so many drakeblood gs mentioned recently

it was shit tier before latest patches but I can't understand what has changed. GS might be better now, but the drakeblood one is still one of the shittiest on chart. Absymal reach too.
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>>161808621
It's your own fault for playing at anything higher than SL 60 +6.

All the Nips are at NG+ around lvl 80, western babies just have to go 40 levels over that.

I fell once for the 120 meme, never again.
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>>161808768
>He shitposts like a retard because he can't address anything with words like an adult

Seriously, how did it escape your dumb ass that I'm arguing that invaders should have full sips?
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>>161808790
Literally I just like how it looks combined with the fancy two handed animations. Plus Drakeblood armor set is my favourite in the game and I wear it exclusively so I figured it made sense to have the weapon as a back up for when I'm bored of my CKGS
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>>161808658
This is why I love my sl20 and sl26 anti-twinks

I spend hours getting summoned and running hosts through undead settlement praising the sun or doing path of the dragon over the corpses of dead invaders.
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>>161808790
High (split) damage when buffed with a miracle, and that's it I guess.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not 100% sure
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>>161808956
My dude occasionally runs counter-twink duty, but sometimes I just can't help but fuck with people. I try not to point down or any of that shit though, I'm already cheesing and I don't need to do anything else on top of it.
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>double poison him
>deny him estus healing
>he starts healing with humanities
>suck them out with dark hand
>wreck him with a single dragon king greataxe blast
cute
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>>161808658
>the Hornet Ring is bad game design
It is, but it's there to help out an invader to counter even worse design which is all the odds being stacked in favor of the hosts with the invaders being permakeked.
The invaders should play like tryhards out to win by any means necessary instead of trying to play the intimidation game like in DS1.
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>>161772931
fuck the old demon king. he was a pain the ass to kill. i spent more time and deaths on him than anyother boss. every demon deserves death.
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Dark souls 2 should have just been 4 areas, with 3-4 bosses in each.

Hub world: Majula
1. Lost Bastille (Last Giant, Flexile Sentry, Ruin Sentinels, Bell Gargoyles, main boss: Lost Sinner)
2. Iron Keep (Executioner's Chariot, Skeleton Lords, The Rotten, Dragonrider, Main boss: Smelter Demon)
3. Drangleic Castle (Velstadt, Throne Watcher/Defender, Looking Glass Knight, Old Dragonslayer, Main Boss: Vendrick
4. Aldia's Keep (Duke's Dear Freya, Royal Rat Authority, Demon of Song, Scorpionness Najka, main boss: Guardian Dragon)

Then you would go back to each area for:
Giant Lord
Old Iron King
Nashandra
Aldia/Ancient Dragon

There's no reason they had to put in so many crazy levels. Each boss already follows a basic theme:

>Cold, abandoned, trapped
>Decrepit, gross, on fire
>Regal, clean
>Perverted, ancient, monstrous, inhuman

They could have easily used 1 intertwined area for each theme, instead of splitting them up, and I think people would complain a lot less about DS2's level design if they had done that.

The DLC levels are basically set up like that and they flow much better than the linear hallways of the main game.
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>>161809148

Is that guy on NG+ levels? That's just sad
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So, what's this guy's point?
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>>161809596
each area progression would follow a theme

1. Lost bastille: Start from the top and go deeper and deeper underground/underwater, killing the guards (Ruin senticles, gargoyles, flexile sentry) to the cells containing the Last Giant, as well as the lost sinner.

2. Iron Keep - Start at the bottom, reach teh roof. Ascend the sinking castle as it falls into lava, breaking walls and working around the broken castle until you reach the Smelter Demon at the top.

3. Drangleic Castle: Alternate between the floors to slowly unlock the whole castle. Rooms contain soul-based traps and switches, getting more and more difficult each time you have to lap each floor (one boss on each floor) until you reach the throne at the top. Repeat again going to the basement to get to Nashandra

4. Aldia's Keep
Outside - inward A large castle built AROUND the dragon aerie, as you try to get closer and closer to the middle where you discover the dragons.
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>>161809828
>>161809596
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>>161809891
I'm not talking about how the areas are connected, I'm talking about how many of DS2's areas made no sense or didn't fit a logical map, like how you take some magical elevator to reach the iron keep.
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>>161809964

The agreed upon explanation is that space is fucked in Drangleic.
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>>161809818

And apparently, his bed is made of dildos.
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>no From reveal at PS Experience
Those new From projects aren't coming out anytime soon, are they ?
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>>161809460
>it's there to help out an invader to counter even worse design which is all the odds being stacked in favor of the hosts with the invaders being permakeked.

That's poor rationalization, the hornet ring is just in the game because DS3 has a giant nostalgia boner for DS1. Even with non-twinks I can kill groups regularly and often do so with my AGS Farronfag.

>The invaders should play like tryhards out to win by any means necessary instead of trying to play the intimidation game like in DS1.

?

Invaders have been tryhards since DeS.
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>>161810004
yeah, sure
lmao
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>>161809828
>Soul-based switches
Fuck no, those were stupid. Did this mean every time Vendrick had to go to the crapper he needed to kill someone just to open the door?

The Golems from Ivory King were kinda neat though.
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>Darkwraiths are so desperate for some succ they're going after hollows with no humanity
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>>161810119

I'm not kidding. We know from Dark Souls 1 that time is fucked in Lordran. Space getting fucked is actually not that far fetched.

Mind you, we know it's an excuse for shit world design.
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>>161810103
>invaders have been tryhards since DeS
Lol no. In Dark Souls 1 a ton of invaders were doing the Reddit honorfaggot etiquette and always bowing before battle and so on.

The Darkmoons were tryhards and went straight for the kill because they got so little pvp.

In DeS the odds were slightly slanted against the invader and the hosts had infinite heals too so fights would drag on forever or LE SCRAPPING SPEAR LMAUU XD
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>>161810175
lmao
yeah
sure bruh
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>dark souls 1 PVP
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>>161810004
>>161810175
I posted the original idea, but I'm not the troll. That's a legit question, but it doesn't really work that well in context of game design. They could apply the same "space is fucked" mentality to a single level, but instead they just use it to link otherwise completely unrelated levels together.
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Where were you when dickwraiths got butthurt?
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>>161810254
>In Dark Souls 1 a ton of invaders were doing the Reddit honorfaggot etiquette and always bowing before battle and so on.

I didn't see much of that, I saw a bunch of duping and smurfing and second chance in DeS and a bunch of bonfire box glitchery and people with lightning katanas and zweihanders and heavy armor DS1.

>In DeS the odds were slightly slanted against the invader

I'd say otherwise, you could always farm grass beforehand and fall back into the level when necessary. Unless you were looking for a fair fight you really had to fuck up to lose an invasion in DeS.
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>>161810278
Do you not realize that what he's describing is pretty much the entire premise of Dark Souls 3? It's not like he's pulling that out of his ass. When the Fire fades time & space get all fucked up.
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Is friedes scythe supposed to do damage? I'm 40/40 and I did like 500 with a full l2r1
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Which game has the hottest dudes
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>>161810976

Solaire was in Dark Souls 1, so that settles it.
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>>161810773
show me some proof
axiomatic rationally deduced proof will be preferable
empirical is fine too though
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What should I do before starting NG+ in DS3? Is there a checklist sort of?

And man, this game was great
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>>161811043
Maybe if you're only into dumb blondes, everyone with taste goes to Straid to get Blacked.
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>>161809964
>>161810004
the agreed upon explanation is that DS2 is not canon and some DS2 items that appear in DS3 are just fanservice
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>>161810976
DS1
>Gwyndolin
>Griggs
>Laurentius
>Solaire
>Lautrec
>Petrus
>Seath
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>>161810976
Orbeck is cute and also he loves you
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>>161811136
>show me some proof

The opening cutscene of DS3 says as much like 30 seconds in.
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>>161810912
Just go 60 into dex instead, with enough str to use washingpole for runners, int is shit
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>>161810976
sir vilhelm
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>>161811232
>the agreed upon explanation is that DS2 is not canon

Let this meme die, it got old even before DS3 confirmed that DS2 happened.
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>>161811379
where? point me to the exact video and the exact second
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>>161811520
The lands converge part.
The video that plays when you start a new game
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>>161811232
DS2 happened but in a faraway irrelevant shithole and had no effect on the soulsverse.
>mfw there's ZERO DS2 throwbacks in AoA
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>You can use bloodlust to tumblebuff any weapon in the game with +30% physical AR.
That's pretty neat, huh.
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>>161811797
could some weapon have 1000+AR with that ?
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>>161811993
Probably 99 in all stats demon GA.
With hyper mode you can get over 1k with almost everything
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>>161811668
>had no effect on the soulsverse

Except for at least one lord of cinder and the ending where you usurp the flame and the game now revolving around thrones.
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>>161812185
>usurp the flame
>anything to do with 2
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is there an objectively better weapon than the Claymore in DS3?
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>>161811232
>agreed upon
Agreed upon by whom?
Not me.

And Archdragon Peak is almost undoubtedly Dragon Shrine from DaS2.
We know that Ornstein left Lordran for Archdragon Peak so it was outside of Lordran. You know what else was outside of Lordran? Drangleic.
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>>161812232
the hollowslayer is better in the same class
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>>161811993
Is there a weapon that gets 770 physical AR?
>>161812137
Well, it's physical AR buff only, split damage kinda defeats it's purpose.
https://youtu.be/lC8Dn8eunzw?t=2m39s
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>>161812232
Washing Pole.

Greatswords still don't have a good answer to unpunishable 11frame long range tracking, dashing thrustspam with a chance to deal double damage
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>>161812325
no it's not
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>>161805481

Those drops are safe.
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>>161812325
>>161812607
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>>161812607
>what is scaling
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Would 2 handing my giant club before hornet riposting make a difference in the damage?

I'm at 28 strength at SL36 +4 here, it bothers me that I'm not one-shotting hosts because I'm doing an exile cosplay which is severely min-maxed, not only would a fast weapon to deal the last sliver of health not fit the cosplay, but I just don't have room weight-wise. And running after people with the GC feels pretty fucking bad because you know they're gonna get away.
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>>161812831
>hiding the fact you're not 2 handing them

Sure showed them
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>>161812607
>fextra
Somebody post the Boromir cap
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>>161812920
damn my b

you'lls got this one
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>>161811267

I was going to say Bloodborne but this list made me think twice.
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>>161812232
Claymore is solid in all souls games except DS2 but in DS3 hollowslayer, wolf knight greatsword, black knight greatsword, homosword and onyx blade are a bit better either moveset, damage or WA-wise.
>mfw onyx blade can R1-WA for like 850 damage
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>>161810976
DS3 because everyone you invade is literally burning up.
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>invade as faithful
>3 man gank spank
>kill the host through parry
>get this

Why are gankers such shitters?
>>
go ronnie!
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>>161812220
AFAIK the first person to ever even hint at doing something like that was Aldia and the person who actually tells you to do it in 3 wields a weapon from Drangleic. What's more, Yuria tells you that "a hollow need not be mad," which is likely tied directly to Drangleic's work in (somewhat successfully) fighting the curse considering that she doesn't mention using the dark hand to stay sane and that a land of hollows sucking humanity out of each other wouldn't be sustainable. Additionally, Yuria's goal is to make you a "monarch" and she sells what appears to be a variation on a ring first seen in Drangleic.

Yuria mentions Kaathe, but Kaathe wanted you to walk away from the flame and simply let it die and if he still wanted that then Yuria would be pushing you towards the ending where you let the world go dark. Something changed his mind between DS1 and DS3 and that something was probably Aldia.
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>>161812341
heavy great club @ 66 str w/ bloodlust buff
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>tfw returning back to my ds3 great club after a run with an atrocity that is a ds1 great club
Who the fuck thought those ds1 str weapon movesets were good? Who the fuck thought that 2h ds1 greatclub moveset was good above all else?
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>>161813524
>poises through your black flame
>chainstabs your to death
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Guise, Anri dissapeared and I wanted her sword, but seems like I can't anymore, so could someone drop it for me?
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>>161813732
place and pass while I boot up my N64
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>>161813524

What's wrong with it?
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>>161813776
>N64

Don't be a smartass, he's clearly on a Personal X-station U.
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>>161813836
damn, good job , moneybags!
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>>161813776
Oh lol , right , Platform's PS4

Password's gonna be dsg01
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>>161813947
>>161813947
Place's gonna be Catacombs of Carthus first bonfire
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>>161813732
>Anri dissapeared

There's a 95% chance she's still in your game and you just messed up and sent her somewhere or didn't find her somewhere. Have you checked everywhere she could be?
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>invading at low levels with my great club exile build
>it's a "way of the blue host with seed does nothing but run around and turn-and-burn with a straight sword while rolling away forever" episode
>eventually crystal out because I can almost never hit him with my club and some watchdog faggot decides to attack me, the red, because why not also be a faggot I guess
>check guy's profile to block communication
>this is what I see

I don't know what I expected...

I don't understand people who do shit like this, and why From allows a system where you can have 3 guys chasing you and literally no one can hit you because you just roll and roll and roll and roll.

It bothers me when I'm trying to have fun with cosplaying at lower levels and you get faggots like this, I just want to have fun. I mean I could fucking bring a black knight shield and raw ASS or DSA and roll catch your faggot at all day, but I don't. I'm not meta level ffs, I'm SL36. Why do people gotta be faggots, /dsg/?
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>>161814192
>>161814192
Everywhere she could be right now.
I saw her summon sign before the deacons of the deep fight.
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>>161814192
Nevermind , just found and killed her at firelink shrine lol
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>>161814245
Good profile
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>>161814245
seed is a red flag during every invasion but ariandel in which case you just hide near vilhelm
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>>161814245
>>161814454

Whoops.
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>>161814557
That's pretty mild though
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>>161814430
I'd figured as much, have fun with it.

Just in case you didn't know, the scaling on luck is insane even post-nerf but you'll want minimum physical stats because everything but luck scales with an E or a D even at max upgrade level. With minreqs and 40 luck I killed the dancer in under a minute with some rouge on Anri's sword.
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>>161814621

Well it's not like it was a 5 man gank or something it was just a host with way of the blue and raw ASS + parry item package that would just run away in circles forever in a cleared out area.
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>>161814245
>he can't roll catch people on a str build, a build that has access to follower spear, arbalest, millwood axe, heavy broadsword and 30 bombs per invasion
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>>161814906

Remember when the great club exile defending the border to farron swamp pulled out a millwood axe and offhand arbalest?

Because I don't. Faggot.
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>>161815007
Do you fall in the hole instead of climbing ladders too?
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>>161815007
cosplay ends when faggotry of another player begins
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>>161815062
>unzips off hand caestus
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>>161815060
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>>161814245
>invader asshurt when people play to win instead of playing along the arbitrary rules the invader made up in his head

If you want to do cospvp, accept that people aren't gonna play along your roleplay faggotry and if your cosplay isn't viable then you need to make up for that with skill.
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pcfcbf
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Omfg Friede is such a bitch to fight

Gael is a fucking retard that runs into all her aoe too
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Soul Greatsword can't be parried right?
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>>161814548
>hide near Vilhelm
But didn't the recent patch make him killable by phantoms too?
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So what level should I cap at for endgame pvp?
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>>161815528

Where?
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>>161815782
You are
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>>161815756
120, secretly 125 but don't tell anybody about it
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>>161815842

cheers.
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>>161815720
it doesn't really matter, the trip itself is pretty taxing on host's estus, if you ambush them alongside him there's a fat chance of winning
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>>161815842
>not going 130 so you can catch 100 memers
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>>161815976
>not going 141 to catch 119 memers
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>>161815545

>summons for boss fights
>S T I L L has trouble

I unironically think you should stop playing and delete the game.
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>>161815062

I guess you're right, I'll have to keep that in mind next time.

Honestly though I tend to just crystal out of those invasions, since probably 90% of invasions at this low of a level are fun with people actually trying to progress through the level.

I'll have to keep my srs bsns invader set up in my back pocket from now on just in case. Mostly involving just changing my armor around so I can fit a knight's xbow and raw ASS (now arbalest and millwood battle axe since I'm a str build with this) on my person, should even work with the great club since I can parry swap into it if I want.

I do like to use just the giant club + target shield though when I can, it works against most people and their phantoms.
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>>161815971
>gankable vilhelm
>good chance of winning
maybe if the host is alone or only has 1 phantom.
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>>161816515
If it was a good summon it would be fine
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>>161773415

> Implying the Demon King didn't kill the other demons to steal their embers to keep himself alive longer.
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>>161816753

If you weren't complete trash and didn't let others beat the boss for you it would be fine.
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>>161816549

Actually you know what? I moved some things around and simply added a heavy 4P Plow onto my build. Seems to fix all of the problems I have before (mostly dealing with people running away constantly and fighting against other ultra weapons which I can't really trade with or parry forcing us to both roll around until someone fucks up). Just wiped out a gank this way, host was even twinked out with a quakestone.
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>quarter left health
>lol can't connect to network ;)) we are Japanese we can't into anything but child pornography ;)))

Someone on xbone that either wants to kill this cunt for me or just straight up give me the scythe and wardrobe so I can low level pvp
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>>161812920
does HS have better poise?
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>>161809828
>Aldia's Keep
That area disappointed me so much in DS2. It looked pretty cool in the gameplay previews when it was actually dark. In the actual game the area was really short, one corridor and the atmosphere is nothing like when they showcased it.
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>>161769685
Does the 2nd phase abyss watcher really have lingering hitboxes on every single attack? How am I supposed to get a hit in?
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>>161817146

>xbone

????
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>>161817772
roll towards him after the final anime flip
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I beat Friede fine on my other character, but I just can't get her this time. Is there a way to duplicate items or something and make them unupgraded cuz I honestly cannot stand her calling me lord of londor and still trying to kill me anymore
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>>161818016
hey yeah why DOES she attack you if you're lord of londor? Aren't you her liege?
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>>161818081
Because she betrayed Yuria and Sable Church.
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>>161818081
She abandoned Londor.
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>>161818132
>>161818138
Wow what a cunt, she'd rather get cummies from REEEEtard downstairs?

btw is said retard voiced by the same dude that does Morkvarg in Witcher 3, cuz he sounds like morkvarg
>>
NEW THREAD

W H E N ? ? ? ? ?
>>
If they remasted DS1 for some reason, would you play it?
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>>161818580

They just need to fix the netcode.
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>>161818580
Why would they remaster a 5 year old game?
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>>161818580
No. Fuck all remakes and remasters.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>161818732
because it looks like its 10 years old, and has the engine of a 15 year old game
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I have a bruise and a very sore wrist/pinky from slamming my hand in my desk, god damn I hate friede
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>>161818975
I don't know why people think spontaneous invaders are any sort of honorable. It's not like you summoned them to have a fun duel.
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>>161818989
DS2 looks a lot worse in many locations than DS1 tho
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>>161818975
He's a fag that never knew running away and then popping humanity as an invader
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>>161817146
Who are you talking about?
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>>161819130
Exactly, that shit makes me laugh every time.
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>>161819308
That's a big guy
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>>161819449

For (You)
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>>161772059
Is this picture supposed to be sirris or someone who took her armor?
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>>161819921
generic waifu character.
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>>161819308
>using plow against a solo quakestone guy

The sliperry slope is real. Please tell me he had phantoms before.
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>>161818975
>30% hp advantage on host
>expects people not to chug

back in ds1 there were times where you'd expect people in random invasions to actually have a clean fight with you just for the fun of it, but that's literally impossible in 3 with the initial sin of being embered.
>>
>>161820046

Yup, even a watchdog who attacked me who I killed.

It's not really a slippery slope, it's literally just 1 extra weapon for situations a great club simply can't deal with. Don't be a faggot.
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>>161820093
>>161820136
I honestly don't get why he's using the club. If anything I'd be the third musketeer and go for a unique weapon that still fit the style. Maybe not a plow, but still.
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>>161820209

One of the exiles uses a giant club and target shield.

If you have some other suggestion other than the plow feel free to throw it out there. It needs to be able to deal with other ultra weapons and people running away though.
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>>161819213
is this autism?
>>
>>161820306
>One of the exiles uses a giant club and target shield.
Well yeah, that's what I'm getting at. You already have that guy in your team comp, and you're probably making the CGS guy feel odd and left out.
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>>161820306
go with pickaxe and warpick
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>>161812747
Alright, thank you
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>>161820306
>>161820209
>>161820368

Oh and I'm cosplaying as one of them if that wasn't clear. I'm trying to copy them, for the most part at least. Would probably look kinda weird if I worse all the exile stuff but used a different weapon, with a target shield and giant club people get what I'm going for.

That said, what would you suggest? Since greathammer and CGS are taken I'm guessing I'd have to go for a UGS of some sort? Maybe profaned? And then like, idk a small shield for parrying since they already have the fist and parry shield taken?
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>>161820459

Can't. If we're all agreeing I should go with a "third musketeer" sort of set up, pickaxe is a greathammer, and the giant club already fills that requisite. The other guy has a CGS so I'd either need to take a greataxe or ultra greatsword class weapon, and small or medium shield with parry ability (so probably llewellyn or more likely, iron round).
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>>161820484
A great machete would fit the style, but as far as effectiveness goes I'm not sure how comfortable you'd be using that. They work well with offhanded spears and other things though, and are at least good for crushing hosts etc.
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>>161820595
I thought they both had target shields, but that the cgs guy just always twohands
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>>161820595
Greataxe then. Maybe offhand. With main hand axe. Both viable and fun.
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>>161820610

I was thinking of avoiding boss weapons too since the other exiles don't use boss weapons, so I was actually thinking of using the Astora GS and iron round shield. I like it's higher stability and it looks more rusty like something they'd use, llewellyn looks too fancy.

>>161820723

idk if dual wielding would fit the theme since they both use an ultra weapon and an offhand parry tool. Only bit I plan on going off theme is having a 2nd weapon that can deal with people running away forever or other ultra class weapons, so 4PP is perfect for that, and I only pull it out when it's needed like that.
>>
invasions on irithyll are almost as awful as invasions on meta level, jesus fuck
>>
>>161807384
>>161807789
why did he gave the crown to her?
this is one of the few things in ds2 that isn't shit, even though nashandra boss is absolute shit, and vendrick boss is bad too, and you cant kill her illusion, their backstory isn't bad or copied from ds1 or des,even though its simple, you never met 2 characters in des or ds1 that ever had a open relationship
>>
Don't you find zwei near the exiles? Could try that one
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>>161820947

What SL? I've done a ton of SL56 +6 invasions there and generally have a blast, I use a strength build with giant club, javelin, and millwood greatbow. Rarely if ever run into seeds which is the only thing that actually bothers me about invasions, I'll take on a 1v3 easy if I can ambush them while they're fighting mobs for the whole level. 1v4 is fine too but that means I'm probably gonna get invader backup.

I generally found only once you get to SL70 +8 do things get really shitty. Main reason I stopped doing SL130 aldrich invasions were the huge number of hackers at that level on PC, I swear at least a third of my invasions involved CE abuse of some kind.
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>>161821195
Where do you invade?
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>>161821118
I love how Vendrick calls her Dear Shandra even after he knows what she is and what she's done. He really loves her. It's neat characterization, humanizing what has always been a faceless, voiceless ruler across the series to date.
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>>161821240

Central Irithyll mostly. Can sometimes still get Catacombs invasions.
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>invading at SL 35
>Recieve 100k+ souls from a single phantom
what the fuck
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>>161820912
not yhorm's, just great machete
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>>161820912
iron round got a stability nerf iirc, fextra just hasn't changed it yet. Still worth using since you'll need to save weight.

I was talking about the regular great machete, has the same str req as the butcher's knife (24).
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>>161821151
Only place I've seen Zwei was Greirat's shop
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>>161821252
I'm sure that's because of japanese culture, this thing of being closed and cold, there are countless examples of that in the series(outside ds2 that feels more western).
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>>161821481
>>161821380

They didn't. They still go up to 62 stability at +10. It's just that it sucks at blocking anything other than physical damage but I don't really see that as a problem.

How much worse is the heavy GM vs. Yhorm's?
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>>161821340

Downscaled SL120 butt-buddy
>>
>Running through DaS3 with a friend for awhile now
>Im doing a lmao 3Kat build
>Hes doing a dick-ass thief
>We just point down on literally everything we kill or parry, even in the middle of combat
>Latency gets us killed when we try to parry things too much
Its a dumb kind of fun, but its good fun
I hope you guys have jolly cooperation fun too
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>>161821683
That explains the midroll full havels with greatshield I guess.

Fuck hosts.
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new thread when
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>fighting against a watchdog
>use impractical but fun archer character
>watchdog brings in giant crab
>second watchdog appears
>watchdog #2 does fuck all
>eventually mistime a roll and get killed by #1's greatsword
>already in death animation, #2 finally fires a soul arrow, then runs up and points down
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I just don't see the point.
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>>161822118
>>161822118
>>161822118
>>161822118
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>>161815634
it can be, but you have to parry the staff, like farron flashsword
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