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/vg/ League 7 vs. the Idols Edition

>/vg/ League Info
/hsg/ is in Group H against /@/, /wotg/, and /tfg/
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>/hsg/ Prediction Poll Results
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Previous Thread: >>161732958
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1st for don't play shitverse
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>control priest can't win! druids ruin everything!
>hotform is rank 8 legend against jade druids playing reno control priest
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Just hit legend with Pirate Warrior.

Suck my dick.
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I do not seem to understand. Why does this not work?
Please respond.
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>>161756713
(You)
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>>161756532
they should try a tavern brawl where its 50hp and 50 card decks
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>kick circle in 2016
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>>161756685
>tfw last game against jade druid he conceded when I potion + cabaled his ancient of war
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Unpacked the Forgotten Kang, but don't have Aya or Fandral. What now?
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>>161756713

Pics or it didn't happen.
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Does /hsg/ think Anduin's cute?
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FUCKING WARRIORS AND THEIR FUCKING WEAPONS SERIOUSLY IM FUCKING SNAPPING RIGHT NOW WTF WFFFS
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so how much packs have you paid already?
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>>161756734
Jade Druid is not good. Why is that so hard to understand? Token druid is leagues better.

And even still, Pirate warrior is better than token druid. Jade Druid is a fucking JOKE.
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>>161756816
Make an Anivia deck
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We're live /hsg/ vs /@/
http://www.hitbox tv/the4chanDELETEcup
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>>161756734
lol savage roar
and emperor
and giants
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I barely see any hunter lists, did the class get memed?
at least rouges can run with pirates
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>Raza actually wound up more playable than Inkmaster

would not have expected that
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>>161756832
Of course not, that's why I use tyrande
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Jade + Cthun rogue or should I add some spicy burgle there too?
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>>161756969

ALWAYS add some spicy Burgle.

Nothing better than beating an enemy with their own broken cards.
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>>161756836
get used to it faggot im finally going to hit legend with this deck it fucking works
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ok ok

reno n'zoth jade rogue v 2.0
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>>161756873
I wish I read this before I went ahead and crafted Fandral and Aya
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>>161756921
>using tyrande "kill all the trolls" whisperwind
>using tyrande "i enjoy cucking my husband's twin brother" whisperwind
>using tyrande "im just going to murder these humans because LOL WHY NOT and never face any repercussions for it" whisperwind
At least you could've said, "Yes, your husband is cute, but I think Tyrande is sexier and that is why I use her portrait instead."
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>>161756816
If you're done buying whispers packs, craft Fandral. You might not be able to make a jade deck, but there are so many other broken druid decks, an Forgotten King is basically just a better arcane giant.
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>>161757047
>leaving out your rank
>gonna hit legend

sure kid
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>killed control decks

bravo blizzard
bravo
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>>161756832
Tyrande has breasts.
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>>161757175
>i enjoy cucking my husband's twin brother
what, that's not how cucking works
she'd be cucking her husband if she did anything else
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>>161757125
crafting fandral isn't a mistake, he's going to be good in every druid deck for a long while

aya may have memed you though
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reno mage sucks in dragon priest meta feelsbadman
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Reposting my stealth rogue deck because people were curious.
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>>161757227
im 15 right now took me 7 mins after that other faggot mentioned it
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>>161757175
I exclusively fap to extreme femdom Tyrande x Anduin desu.
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>>161757302
In my mind I thought that even if Jade druid don't work, Jade shaman or rogue might

Turns out, Jade druid is the best of them and with a bad opening hand you lose instantly
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We're LIVE faggots!
hitbox tv/thefourchanNOSPACEcup
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>>161757175
I'm pretty sure Tyrande's into orcs too.
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>>161757302
Joy.
What went wrong?
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>>161757175
She attacked those humans because they were working with orcs and chopping down trees in her forest. Tyrande is the best though
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>>161757125
Fandral is fucking good. Aya is... well. I made Jade druid and was so frustrated by how bad and inconsistent it turned out. Then I made my old token druid list and added that 1 mana board buff and I've been having a blast.
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>>161757304
What? I managed to club a dragon priest down with a fucking renoless reno mage.
Not enough removal for the things you can summon with Medivh's staff.
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>>161757356
>hetshit with my husbando
REEEEEE. It's even worse because I've seen so many good artists draw /ss/ with Anduin. Wish I had the money to commission these artists to draw gay Anduin art.

>>161757464
>these people are cutting down our trees!
>so i must genocide all of them!
>all
>of
>them!
Hippie elves were a mistake.
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>>161756816
Make a meme deck with aviana
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>>161757426
Stop forcing your shit here. We don't care.
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>>161757175
literally nothing wrong with killing all trolls
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>>161757632
I'll occasionally dip into Anduin/Wrathion stuff, sure.
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>>161757630
you literally can't deal with all the high health minions
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>Jade Druid is bad

unless you kill them early with a good curve you're fucked once they get to gadgetzan
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post good decks
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what the fuck is this cancer
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>>161757016

Got it.

We wont put everything into cthun therefore cthun cards are going as follows

cthun
2x Blade
2 x Disciple
2 x Taunt Disciple
Twin Emporer

Jade
2 x Jade shuriken
2 x Swarmer
Aya Blackpaw
Nzoth

so obligatory 2x backstab, 2x evis and 2x dr 5 assassin that gives us 10 cards left.

you lot decide.
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>>161757672
Tyrande, don't you have a world tree and husband to be saving?
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>>161757632
>genocide is killing a military outpost destroying your land
what?
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>>161757761
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will get you legend in less thana day on eu
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>>161756816
Make Fandral, make Token Druid, ignore Jade Druid because it's painfully inconsistent
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>just one really angry guy not wanting to watch Hearthstone soccer memes
I don't get it.
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>>161757720
Sure I can.
>Fireball
>firelands
>frostbolt+ice lance
>flame lance
And of course the 2-3 10 mana Kazakus spells.
If that's not enough there's an anus malice in there to blow the asshole out of whatever board he puts down.
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>tfw you use brann + kazakus to make 2 sheep spells and fuck over the cancer murloc paladin
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>>161756816
>>161756875
>>161757635
>watching Noxious
>he plays turn 10 Anivia/Kun into Bran/Cthun/Brewmaster
>52 damage from an empty board, completely erases his opponent

and yet this is probably still balanced compared to all the other crazy decks
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>1st day of expansion
>ladder is already cancer
Face it. Theres zero deck variety, and there will never be any because of how simplistic this game is.
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I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD IF DRAGON PRIEST PLAYS THIS DRAKONID NIGGER AND STEALS MY ANYFIN CAN HAPPEN ONE MORE FUCKING TIME I'M GOING TO KILL BEN BRODE

THIS IS THE 4TH TIME THIS HAS FUCKING HAPPENED
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>>161757926
Does Priest of the Feast perform well with such few spells?
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did I do good, /hsg/?
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>>161757926
>no novas, entombs or excavated evils
I do not understand.
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>>161758293
you deserve it for playing cancer
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>>161758353
>putting that much time into hearthshit

lol no
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>>161758293
>anyfin getting what they deserve
amen
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>>161757926
Can confirm, this is the way to climb ladder really fast in NA as well.
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Someone make a shortstack deck.
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>>161757926
>Northshire Cleric
I was under the impression that she was a bad card, because in this meta, there aren't really that many chances to proc her effect. Someone help a noob out.
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>>161758398
>that much time
I hope you're joking
Not him but, I got that achievement in 2014, fuck me.

>mfw over 6k ranked wins
>probably over a month of total playtime in hours
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>>161758353
Now get to Legend 1,000,000 times, shieldie.
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WIIIIIIIIIIINDS SCORED
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>>161758575
can you put a trip on or something
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>>161758293
Drakonid is the most broken card in the game and it's broken in the most boring way possible
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Is Reno Priest fun? I had Kazakus but I don't have the Reno Priest legendary but I have enough dust to craft it.

I also don't have Chillmaw that's probably a problem.
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>>161757761
>leeroy is back in every deck

It's like I'm in beta again
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>>161758353
>play 2000 matches (with a 50% win rate because lol skill) of their shitty card game
>300 virtual currency as a reward, good for 15 virtual cards, or about 120 dust

Jesus Christ is there any company more Jewish than blizzard? The only reason there isn't a subscription fee for hearthstone is because they didn't think they could get away with it
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>>161758514
PW:S on her, trade into zoo or pirate minions, heal and draw two cards, and/or buff her on turn 3 with talonpriest.
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>>161758921
you realize that this is a hidden quest right?
It's a "surprise" for playing a bunch of games.

I dont see the problem.
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>>161756734
Bad list.
Remove Thaurissan, Arcane Giants, Raven Idols and Savage Roar.
Add a second Nourish and Living Roots.
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Anyone?
>>161757836
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>>161759078
300g is insulting. It should have been 1000g
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>>161759290
its still free
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So I haven't played the game since Blackrock, and I saw a new expansion came out
Can I come back in and climb the ladder well and afford a good deck without spending a ton of money or am I too far behind?
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>>161757761
I've been using this list, except with 2 Small-Time Buccaneers in place of the 2 Red Wyrms.

I've seen some streamers playing the Wyrm Miracle deck, but I don't see what the appeal is. Miracle is gimmicky enough, and Leeroy+Cold Blood + midrange minions is usually enough to get the job done, in my experience.
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>>161758834
what if leeroy cost 4 mana
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>>161759290
>win 1k games
>1k/3 ~ 333.(3)
>333*30 = 9990
By the time you get to 1k wins, you had already earned 10k gold from wins alone.
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WE FUCKING WOOOOOOON
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>>161759496
lot of new cards from the expansions that jsut came out are great, so if you restart again you should be able to make fine decks with that + your classic and BRM stuff.
Might be easier to play in wild than standard until you acquire more stuff, or just play in wild because its great
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>>161759628
I see this shit posted from time to time but non one seems to give a fuck. So really, who gives a shti about this?
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>>161759798
It's one guy
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>>161759496
You could, but I strongly recommend at least dropping the money on Kharazhan. Lots of nice cards in it.
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>>161759628
Maybe we would give a shit if it was inter-board tournament.
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>>161759927
It's like ten guys
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>>161760001
If /hsg/ places well enough in the VGL, WIIIIIINDS earns a roster spot on the /vg/ team for the inter-board tournament.
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>>161760018
maybe across the whole 4chan, I could believe that
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>jade druid
>pirate warrior

Less than 3 days and the games are already dead, good excuse to do something productive now.
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>>161756045
1: any rogue deck capable of an aggressive start
2: probably tie between tempo mage and pirate warrior
these are most likely to turn 4 lethal you.

press f to pay respects to mech shaman, RIP 18 damage on turn 2

>>161756137
>>161756189
>>161757392
not normal astral druid, but a meme variant with a kun/aviana OTK could make the list
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Use this deck if you want to have a 90% win rate against pirate warrior while still having around 50% win rate against against other decks
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>>161759523
then he'd be a basic mage card
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>>161760197
Replacement for Cairne? Don't have him.

Sylvanas ok?
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Reno mage with all the appropriate new cards is actually fucking banana. Its like a huge toolbox of fuck you.
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>>161760197
im a pirate wario about to turn legend soon ive beaten that deck many times mate, please come with something esle
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>>161760307
forget cairne, no idea why that anon even put him in the deck
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>Memeing on people with my Jade Rogue list.

I mean I'm not high rank or something, but everyone is still playing decks they've seen on stream. Maybe my piece of shit deck isn't as bad as I thought it was.
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>>161760307
Yeah I used him before, but the death rattle almost never stole a minion so I swapped her with Cairne. Usually she was still fine though.
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>>161760402
I'm not playing a deck from a stream! I invented this deck myself, and as soon as I stop losing to silly meme decks everyone will see how good it is!
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>>161759663
>>161759931
Alright, i'll spend the $20 for Karazhan, the cards look good, I wonder if I should spend money on packs too or if I should just play a bit and get packs over time?
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>>161760331
>pirate warrior is so brain dead even this neanderthal who can't type gets to legend with it

holy kek
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>leroy
>created by drakoid operative
>power overwhelming
>created by nefarian
>nefarian created by historian
This game is getting more and more RNG based
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Can we please have a poll to keep this "4chan cup" faggotry out of the threads? It has its own general, go post there.
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>>161760331
nice LARPing
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>>161757461
Against aggro, you are dead by the time your golems are getting big.
Against midrange, your opponent's board is too well-established by the time your golems get big, allowing him to trade efficiently and end the game in 2 or less turns.
Against control, they've got a handful of answers that are online and ready to be cast by the time your golems are big.
Against combo, the size of your golems means nothing.
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>>161760331
I almost never got defeated by pirate warriors, but whatever you say man
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>>161760485
>I wonder if I should spend money on packs too or if I should just play a bit and get packs over time?
This pretty much depends on your budget anon, and your patience.

Maybe try a few decks first then you'll have a better idea on if you want to spend or not. There's no right answer here.
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>>161760508
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>tfw farily successful with nzoth jade rogue

i-is it time for us to come back into the meta? or are all the decks just shit right now so no one is sure on what's the best and im just lucky?
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Got a golden al'akir
any good decks i can put it in

dont care about legend since i got legend months ago
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>>161760504
you dont really need brains for this game any deck is fucking simple and follows the same pattern curve your cards from low to high, its nota difficult concept, if you dont get that your fucked
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>>161760318
Why wouldn't you rather have a toolbox containing two-ofs, rather than making sacrifices for the sake of a Reno, a Kazakus and a 0-mana 5/5 that makes your next spell cost 7 mana?
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>tfw hitting rank 17 with my free2play deck

maybe once things settle and all those jade druids and pirates fuck off ill get even higher
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>>161760789
sure
play beardo and auchenai in it for the memes
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>>161758778
Only acceptable Reno archetype is Renolock.

Renopriest and Renomage are mediocre and the classes have better decks available to them (dragon and tempo respectively).
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Playing against reno decks is so fucking tilting they rope you every fucking turn
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>>161760902
too bad the new Warlock legendary is fucking garbage
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>>161760737
anyone? feeling like just dusting him at this point sadly
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>>161760578
it beats control via pure greed, there's not enough answers in any deck
i've wrestled jade druids as control all the way to 20/20 golems but there's just no way, you have limited removal but they have unlimited golems
the rogue-tier draw with auctioneer and fandral and co is just too much

obviously it crashes and burns against aggro and combo though, as expected.
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>>161760485
Packs aren't worth the money in my opinion, especially if you already have most of the classic set.
That said, they have this one time "welcome bundle" now where you can buy something like 10 classic packs+ a class legendary for $5. That's worth it.
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>>161760980
just put him in midrange shaman
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>>161760759
I'm a big sucker for singleton deck (in mtg I love EDH).

I agree that I could use good doubles, but having a wide variety of effects available is great.
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>>161760980
dust it and make something good
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>lose a 50/50 rag flip
>then lose to Ysera awakens
>Ysera was discovered off Netherspite historian and only lived for 1 turn

I'm mad as hell
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>>161760840
The highest I've managed to get with a f2p deck was rank 11.
I hear Trump managed to get to rank 8 with f2p pirate warrior.
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>>161760991
Don't trade unless you absolutely have to, if you try to keep the enemy's board clear all the time then of course you're gonna lose by attrition, every bit of face damage counts and in the worst case scenario the druid is forced to use his Idol for healing instead of something way more useful
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>having fun with murloc shaman in ladder
>start losing to smug pirate warriors
>go back to midrange shaman
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The dream!!!
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>>161759509
give them a shot man
they get in for like 16 damage and you can just close it out with eviscerates and stuff
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>>161761251
>Anduin thinks about Lightbomb.png
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>>161761201
>Pirate Nigger becomes noticeably more aggressive after you Ooze his weapon
is winning in a children's card game all these people have?
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>>161760484
I haven't seen Jade Rogue yet, but I highly doubt it's anything special. I mean Jade Decks kind of build themselves honestly. I was just expecting to get shit on by everyone and was pleasantly surprised I was't.
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>dragon priest steals your hand buffs
>now he's playing doubly overstatted minions with insane effects

JUST
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>>161757054
I've tried this and the problem is you need to run all the jade cards you can for jade to be good in rogue, you can't Reno it.
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>>161761175
that's the plan of course
the slight problem is that most control decks are specifically built to do the exact opposite of that
only renolock is genuinely good at bursting down greedy opponents
which is why it's the only one that beats jade druid
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>>161760975
And the priest and mage legendaries aren't?

Making your heals 0-mana isn't worth it unless you're going for some Beardo/Coldarra meme bullshit then it's a meme deck.
Inkmaster is best thought of as a 0-mana 5/5 that makes the next spell you cast cost 7 mana. What spells (that don't already cost 7 mana or more) make that worthwhile? The answer is 'none' and if you include Inkmaster solely to play it with a Flamestrike, is it really a worth-while inclusion in your deck?

All of the class-specific highlander legendaries are rubbish.
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>>161761463
The Priest one is great in Shadow Control.
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>VS Shaman
>1 hex on a Warrior buff card
>Plays Chromaggus which is a little weird
>Look away from PC for a second
>1 hex on Ragnaros
>1 Lightning Bolt on a Bloodhoof Brave
>"Alright, I can actually fucking play a minion now!"
>
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>>161761504
Does Shadow Control Renopriest really sound viable to you?
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>>161761528
>Bloodhoof Brave

ecks dee, friend
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>tfw to dumb to play anything but pirate warrior
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Hows jade rogue anons?
>Collector from pack
Oh why do the rogues get worst class legendaries and why is it me who always unravels them
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>>161761637
>ecks dee, friend
What did he mean by this?
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>>161761703
But Thijis made it work.
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>>161761613
hotform got legend with it
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Alright so I got around 3400 dust to spend on some cards from the new expansion

What should I invest in?
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cyclopian horror or sen'jin shieldmasta? what's better?

>>161761976
kazakus.
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>>161761703
I'm doing okay with one. N'Zoth is an okay finisher if you need it, but most games I don't need it.
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>>161762046
shieldmasta
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>>161761976
Aggro Goonsadin is looking really good, anon.
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>playing against wave after wave of tard warriors
>switch to a deck that would eat them for breakfast
>bring it on you drooling aggro shitters *tips fedora
>immediately swarmed by direct counters that outcontrol me

This game is fucking stuipd
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>tfw people have started learning Renolock can't deal with an on-curve brann bronzebeard

god damn it, literally twice now I've had people just drop it when I don't have shadow bolt in hand
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>>161761251
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>>161761642
i dont know why everyone has to shit on pirate warrior

cancer aggro decks are literally the fastest and most reliable way to climb ladder

if two players spend an afternoon on ladder with one mid level player using a 55% winrate aggro deck (matches last 5-10 mins) while the other is a legend player with a midrange or control deck with a 75% winrate (matches last 15-30 mins) who will climb ladder faster?
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>>161762225
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when are they adding more storm cards
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>>161760759
because reno and kazakus are insane
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>>161756734
>jade idol AND raven idol

I dont know. Maybe put some more "do nothing" cards in your deck, maybe that will help against pirate warrior?
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>>161762324
is that the absolute madman in the bottom right?
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>>161762324
She could handle my club, if ya know what I mean.
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>>161762357
Jade druid is not winning against pirate warrior anyway
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>>161762336
>storm

back to shitroverse
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>>161761976
If you want something good, craft Patches and play pirate warrior, or wait until the meta settles.

If you want something you'd like to play, then craft whatever you like.

>>161762140
It's still kinda inconsistent, but is way better I expected it to be.
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>>161762440
its gonna hurt
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Control Priest is about to hit rank 1 NA. Blizzard have literally saved Hearthstone.
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>>161757342
Wow, congrats. You forgot that you have to win the mirror 60% of the time to have a chance at getting legend and I dont think a rank 15 shitter is able to do that.
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>>161762336
If WotC thinks Storm was such a mistake that its scale of mechanics from most likely to least likely to be seen again is called the 'Storm Scale,' you can bet your ass that Team 5 isn't stupid enough to go all in on Storm.
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Reminder that Reno Jackson will be moved to classic set, mark my words.
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>>161762407
Is that Ben Brode in the top right?
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>>161762140
>aggro goons
>not playing midrange goons

get out of my house
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>>161762519
What decklist
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>>161760840
>>161761117
>The highest I've managed to get with a f2p deck was rank 11.
>I hear Trump managed to get to rank 8 with f2p pirate warrior.
Explain this to me. By f2p deck do you mean decks that only run basic cards? Because those are barely getting me to Shieldbearer right now even without losing stars.

I remember getting to rank 16-17 took me a budget C'Thun mage deck that cost about 500-800 dust or so. What am I doing wrong and how do I stop sucking at the game?
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>>161762454
kill yourself 12 year old mouthbreather
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>>161762591
Hotform's, check his twitter. Think he's subbed in Wrathion taking out something else though.
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Turns out 3 mana draw 100 synergises pretty well with mass hand buffs
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>>161762554
He really shouldn't be though. Why are people so afraid of wild?
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>tfw waiting on your win condition for 12 turns
fucking kill me
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Post happy Kazakuses.
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>>161762753
Because dr. boom and secret pally
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>>161762753
>Why are people so afraid of wild?
Because they have have naxx/GvG cards
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>>161762753
Because secret pally forever being the best deck
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>>161762585
>aggro
>midrange
>not playing the murloc master race
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>>161762665
Oh, it's dragon. I thought it would be more of a pure control
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>>161762753
GvG cancer
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>>161759496
If you already own blackrock, the cheapest deck to make, which requires only one optional legendary, is dragon priest.

Incidentally, dragon priest is also the strongest mid-range deck in the meta, shows absolutely no signs of weakness to anything currently played, and is therefore the easiest deck to grind rank on any ladder with.

Here is a sample decklist, the one I use, as a template from which to substitute or add whatever cards you own and/or can afford to craft. This exact decklist has been posted many times already in this and prior threads, and with a quick google search you can find it on hearthpwn as well as other sites where it is currently the highest rated dragon priest deck in the world.
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>dragon priest thinks they're hot fucking shit and starting hitting face and ignoring my minions, so much that I have to Reno turn 6 on 5 health

>starts hitting face and ignoring minions again
>punish with PO + Shadowflame
>Keep removing his shit
>he runs out of cards
>YOU FACE JARAXXUS
>INFERNOOOOO
>runs out of sw:d's and siphon souls he stole from me
>"You have bested me"

Silly priest
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>>161762753
He's a build-around card that's given birth to an entire archetype across multiple classes, from his beginning in standard to the very end.

This means one of two things:
>Team 5 will consistently be putting out at least one 'if-you-have-no-duplicates' legendary card every year for Highlander decks to be built around.
>Team 5 will make Reno a Classic card, as he is the lynch-pin that Highlander decks are built around.

Will Reno decks be able to survive without Reno and only Kazakus plus the awful class legendary of your choice? Only time will tell.
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>>161762838
>>161762854
Well yes, those cards are incredibly broken and that's kind of the reason wild exists: so those cards rotate out of standard It goes both ways, you don't get to pick and choose.
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>>161761251

Gotta dream bigger luv
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>>161762941
Watch a couple of games. You can't say it's not a control deck.
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>>161763058
Jaraxxus will always beat Priest.
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>>161762618
By f2p trump means cards he receives only through buying packs with earned gold or arena.
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Cancer decks

Pirate Warrior
Buff paladin

Jade classes got memed, jade, while strong, is incosistent as fuck. (token druid got a small buff with the 1mana +1/1)

Kabal classes have been underrepresented I feel like.
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>>161763058
>things that never happened
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>>161762554
>let's defeat the entire purpose of the standard format so i can play my garbage cucktrol deck forever
nice community
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>>161763158
do you want to play with fire?!!!!!
BRAWWLFKGLGHLLHGGLLGLHLGGH
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>>161763176
Oh m8, you need to play some post-MSoG games.
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I opened around 80 packs of MSG and I've >7000 dust.

Where the good deck lists at?
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>>161762753
Because wild is unplayable garbage. Shredders and belchers and mad scientists in every single deck ever isn't fun.
Older formats like legacy in MtG are at least fun to play. Wild is not. If they want wild to be played by more than 1% of the playerbase, then they need to ban some cards from the format.
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>>161763218
Dragon Priest is dominating, Renolock is making a decent showing. I think Tempo Mage is doing a decent job as well.

But the only decks in the two-days-after-release 'meta' that are adhering to their gimmick are:
>Renlock
>Jade Druid
>Goonsadin
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>>161762440
>>161762514
IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY PAINFUL
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>>161762618
>basic
No, just rares and commons from card packs.
I did get rank 15 with a mage that was "mostly" basic though. Only exceptions were
>Manawyrm
>Sorcerer's apprentice
>twilight flamecaller
And finally
>Azure drake

>What am I doing wrong and how do I stop sucking at the game?
You should generally clear out your opponent's minions before going face. The only exceptions are
>you're playing some taunt or pseudo taunt, making it highly likely that they'll end up trading anyway
>you don't think they're going to buff that shitty little token into a 5-5 next turn
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SECRET MAGE WITH THAT VALUE TEMPO OPENING LEL
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>>161763290
I have. If the game is about even Jaraxxus will cuck priests. Especially Dragon Priests.
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>>161763221
t. priest player

Sorry but that's what you get for dumping out your hand into my AoE
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>>161762554
>>161763258
The only cards that should be moved to standard are ones that saw very little play

Stoneskin Gargoyle for example
Wailing Soul was great because it made different decks
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First time I'm watching hotform.
He's literally our guy.
And I'm Canadian so I guess its even truer for me.
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>>161762554
repremaded
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>>161763258
>garbage
Reno decks are so much fun though. It'd be a shame, if they died right after a card as wonderful as Kazakus came out.
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find two STORIES TO TELL in this image
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>>161763158
Everyone get in here.
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>couldn't even make it to my turn 5 full board clear

shieeet
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Evergreen classic set was a terrible fucking idea.

Sets rotating out on a year by year basis rather than expansion by expansion is also a bad idea.
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>>161763195
>>161763425
>just rares and commons from card packs
Ah okay, that's absolutely doable.
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>>161763704
but that's none of my business
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what else can I put for cycle in reno hunter I already have
>loot hoarder
>curator
>tracking
>elekk
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>>161763704
but why?
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>>161763542
t. hutt burt reno player

If any of that crap you said actually happened, it just shows how pathetic your reno deck is, as it can only win if the priest player literally goes afk and ropes without doing anything, or plays like absolute shit.

Thanks for actually demonstrating how strong dragon priest meta is, as if ANYONE on the entire internet needed another reminder.
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>>161763826
Thalnos, azure drake
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>>161762753

Reno decks will NEVER EVER survive in wild. It makes no difference if he just stays in standard.

Hell I would say team 5 should always poll for 1 card from each set to be added to the standard list. As it stands right now the """"expert"""" set is boring.
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>>161763704
Sets rotating out at all, in a fucking computer cardgame, is just Blizzard being a bunch of fucking Jews.
They printed Boom MD specifically because they wanted to make wild unplayable and keep people buying new packs.
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Which one of these is the least shitty right now in arena?
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>>161763932
Anon, are you feeling okay?
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>>161763984
>mfw the next card to get polled is patches
>everyone votes yes to move it to classic
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Okay, this is the most fun I've had in any expansion to date.

I'm in fucking love with this archetype.
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>>161763932
>it just shows how pathetic your reno deck is, that it won

??? lmao?

why do you have this deulsion that dragon priest is unbeatable? Reno runs a metric fuckton of removal, if you can grind priest out of a hand and then play Jaraxxus you're pretty safe, especially since they have no burst
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>>161764039
Warrior
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>play 10 enrage minions
>no basic enrage minions
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>>161763932
reno is garbage and so is dragon priest
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What do you guys think of including Divine Spirit in your Dragon Priest decks?

- Pirate Warrior and Jade Druid don't run hard removal (except maybe 1 Mulch).
- Landing a Divine Spirit on a taunt vs Pirate Warrior is basically duplicating the taunt for 2 mana
- Lets you go face more easily vs Jade
- Can get some insane health totals with PW:S (+4) and Kabal Talonpriest (+6)

Might even consider running the overcosted PW:Tentacles.
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>>161764119
Something about Liadrin bossing around a fucking Gadgetzan mafia is just great.
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>>161760190
>Coin, Innervate, Astral Communion
>Alex
>Rag
>Leeroy
Can't beat this.
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>>161763984
>>161764023
Classic is tried and tested. If you start putting cards permanently into classic you might fuck it up forever.

I mean imagine if Dr. Boom were voted into classic.
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>>161764282
It's bad. You don't need it. You can get massive health totals with Brann and Kazakus already.
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>>161764070
>>161764123
Sorry, I keep getting distracted by this tournament on twitch where dragon priest keeps dumpstering all these meme renolock decks.

What were we talking about again?
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>>161764023

Nah the wild format was just team kike not admitting that they fucked up naxx and gvg. They would have deleted them if they could
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>Barely Played the last few months
>Just enough to get 20 for cardback
>Rank 23
>Againts a Warrior
>Barely plays anything at all
>Turn 9
>Drops down a Raging Worgen
>Charge and 2 Inner Rage
>He tries to go face and seems confused
>Timer runs out as he trying to attack my face
>He concedes after a few second
>mfw During his last turn
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>>161764376
Brann only works with Kabal Talonpriest and I'm not talking about Reno Dragon Priest with Kazakus.

I'm just trying to think of a way to beat Jade Druids more easily (without affecting the Pirate Warrior match-up too much).
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>>161764282
theres much more viable options vs pirate warrior than hoping your taunt somehow lives for 1 turn
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>>161764425

Link it.
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Reminder that pre blizzard meta was the best meta in heartstones history with most skill oriented and least RNG elements in the game

Reminder that Blizzard will always nerf high skill cap decks like Patreon and ole miracle because high skillcap means good players can beat casuals more often. This means that jade golem decks which are consistent compared to other decks will get the nerf bat soon.

Miracle and old freeze mage nerfs were a mistake
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>>161764508
>I'm just trying to think of a way to beat Jade Druids more easily
Run dragons or other big healthy minions, pressure them early. The deck has to be slower than you can be, but if you're pure control zero minions it'll stop. Try including an OTK maybe.

Power Word: Tentacles or Divine Health will not win you a game vs. Jade Druid unless you're pulling some Inner Fire trick in the midgame too.
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>>161764510
I'm not trying to tech vs Pirate Warrior, it's more about teching to beat Jade Druid without getting worse vs Pirate Warrior.

I should probably just curve lower with Faerie Dragons and rush Jade down.
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>>161763905
>>161764023
The fact that they have to keep nerfing classic cards is a symptom. They take cards that were fine during the time but people are sick of.

Like abusive sergeant was fine. It just shouldn't have been nerfed, it just shouldn't be in the pool any more.

So many cards that have been nerfed were fine originally but just had outstayed their welcome.
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>>161763978
thalnos is what I was missing, thanks friend
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>>161763689
Swashburglar is godlike in arena
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>>161764614
AmazHS.

They're doing a renolock mirror match right now, which is actually fun to watch because I'm already bored to tears of dragon priest and pirate warrior decks.
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>>161764119
>I'm in fucking love with this archetype.

Not the same, but Jesus do I love handbuff aggro murloc.

There's nothing quite like drawing through 80% of your deck by turn 6.
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>>161764343

Naxx and GvG were a mistake. Name one card outside of those 2 sets which would break the classic set?
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>>161764119
Is sally fast enough when you need her ?
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>>161764425
Yeah, so you could say Renolock is a favored matchup for Dragon Priest. Why does that makes you go "NEVER HAPPENED YOU BUTTHURT SHITTER" when someone shares about how a dragon priest player lost by missplaying

Why are you so aggressive about this? You alright?
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>>161764858
Mysterious challenger
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>>161764858
Tunnel trog
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>>161764119
Man I wish I had the dust to craft Sally and Burnbristle
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>>161764735
>>161763826
search "draw" in the library
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>>161764735
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What good deck I can get with 7k dust?
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>>161765204
is there such a thing as mmo anime?
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>>161765204
pretty much anything
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Next expansion needs to be Scarlet.
Or Zul'amon.
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>>161765001
Not sure why you keep insisting I'm being aggressive.

Are you okay, anon?

Did I use big mean scary words like "fuck" and "shit" and make you feel uncomfortable? :c

I'm sowwy.
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>>161765279
Have you not watched anime in the last five years?
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>>161765279
Oh, you sweet innocent child
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>>161765293
I dont think I have cards or the dust for control decks. Control can go die in a fire though
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>>161765279
it's a genre at this stage
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What if

>you can have between 30-50 cards and up to 3 copies of the same card (except legos)
>you can have an "extra deck" of 10 cards that you can swap cards before you actually mulligan so that you can tek some cards against certian classes/decks
>instead of rotating sets (which is cancer btw) there should just be a banlist/limit to cards like you can run only 1 copy of 4mana 7/7 in your main and extra deck etc
>giving out more free packs, as a new player its literally cancer to get into it with all those cards
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>>161765307
Frankly I'd prefer Hearthstone to continue the path of mostly original content ala LoE and MSoG.

Frankly I think the Hearthstone team has a better take on Warcraft than anyone working on WoW.
>>
what is the cheapest deck in the game at the moment? some variation of face hunter?
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>>161765204
Do you already have a collection and are just looking for some dust to burn or is that your hard earned dust that you want to make the best use of?
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>all this fucking aggro in ladder
Blizzard should revert blizzard and afghanistan nerfs. Trying to kill freezemage with nerfs was a mistake
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>>161765012

Because secret pally is tearing it up in ladder right now...

>>161765071

>the card that got bumped for the 2 mana spell power guy

/hsg/ shieldbarrers at their finest
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>play 75 murlocs
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>>161765563
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>>161765593
It gets worse when you realize that half or more of them are rares.
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>>161765543
pretty much everything from classic and GvG till TGT
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>>161765349
>>161765351
>>161765432
what are some good ones
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>>161756685
>reno control priest

Cool. And dragons? And non reno control?
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>tfw you track all your games but never look at your win rate because you don't want to get discouraged and quit playing
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Can pirate warrior stop being a thing now? This is a new low for this game. Ladder is just about unplayable at this point.
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I want to climb as fast as possible in Wild
give me good decks, in exhange i'll give you this reaper
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>patches is literally team 5's answer to f2p competitive decks
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>>161765840
Mechmage
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>>161763694
how did you even let that happen 5 turns in you should neck yourself for being so fucking stupid
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>>161765683
Log Horizon
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>anon didn't predict Patches would so broken

Are you out there buddy? I guess you're officially a retard now.
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I'm bored of the new expansion already.
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>>161765957
>hearthstonebabbies don't understand the power of making a deck more consistent and tempo plays

laughing my butt off desu
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>>161765660
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>>161765972
>mfw I bought into the hype and let myself believe the new meta would be an improvement
>jade cancer
>dragon aids
>pirate memes
>it's the worst meta to date
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>>161766215
>it's the worst meta to date
>I wasnt around for undertaker,freeze mage,control warrior and miracle rogue meta the post.

Blizzard should have kept priest and shaman bad as intended from the start.
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>>161765939
>let that happen

yea I really let my demonwraiths and hellfires not be in my hand desu

What is your problem?
>>
>play n'zoth's first mate
>get: 1/3 weapon, 1/1, 1/1 with charge on turn 1
>stronger than Muster for Battle due to charge AND it's 2 mana less

Why do idiots keep saying "I dont understand why people think patches is strong?"
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you can fucking tell how much they fucking push decks look at this
>shifting shade
>4mana
>4/3
>random a random

>Drakonid operative
>5mana
>on curve minions stats of 5//6
>Know what cards your opponent is playing
>know which ones he has not drawn
>Choose one from 3 to add to your hand
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>>161765683
Not necessarily good, but here's a good place to start:

>Sword Art Online
>Log Horizon
>Overlord
>Blessings on this wonderful world
>Grimgar
>Is it okay to pick up girls in a Dungeon?

All of these are specifically trapped in an MMORGP or transported to a Fantasy world with RPG elements, but you could also look into actual anime adaptations of MMOs like Phantasy Star Online 2 for example.
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>>161766215
Not quite as stupid as patron OTK or combo druid. But yeah the new pirate warrior is retardedly strong.
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>>161766336
>implying all of those are worse

Woah there gramps, I think that nostalgia you're feeling is making you retarded.
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This card is decent
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>>161766215
The last meta was the worst, shaman everywhere
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>>161766215
>mouthbreathing redditards don't wait a single day before complaining about the """"""meta"""""""
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>>161766215
I'm going to enjoy my Kazakus/Renomage decks until the big man rotates out, then quit playing.
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I haven't played this game in a while. How viable is Murlock team?
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>>161766502
undertaker was objectively the worst
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>>161766336
No, you know what? This meta is worse. Back then, you know what the most bullshit thing was? A 14 damage 2-card combo from Druid that requires 10 mana. Now it would be unusual for a Pirate Warrior or a Tempo Mage to NOT deal that much damage each turn. I hate this, "Undertaker, Giant Warrior, and Leeroy Rogue were the worse!" I promise you, if those decks were here today, Pirate Warrior would shit on all of them, because Pirate Warrior can kill them on turn fucking 5, when it would take those decks at least 10 turns to deal a MAXIMUM of 20 damage.
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>>161765683
>log horizon
>SaO
>Grimgar
>Is it okay to...

These are all mediocre
>konosuba
>overlord

These two are jewels of 2016s
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>>161766516
>Four whole mana to destroy a minion AND remove a mana crystal
>no synergies

Meh, rather have fireball
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>>161766516
I think this card is the perfect example of how bad predictions can be and how bad people are when they don't play the card. I've played the card. I'm playing the card. It's good. It's damned good.
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>>161766586
murlocs are as viable as they've always been bad
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>>161765972
What? Anon how could you possibly be bored of facing a deck that kills you in 5 turns literally every single game for 2 days straight?
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>>161766516
Still no comparison to hex or even sheep. And sheep isn´t even played that much.
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I think the thing I hate most about Pirate Warrior is how they instantly concede when you drop a big taunt / heal.

They're playing the most brainless deck ever and can instantly move on to the next game because they 100% know they can't win anymore. Meanwhile plebs that play other decks have to spend 5-10 minutes before they find out if they've won/lost.

So they make ladder shittier for everyone else AND climb the ladder faster than anyone else. Fuck 'em.
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>>161766605
>killing at turn 5
Woah!

>trying to burst a giant warrior with minions
Thats retarded anon
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>>161766605
You are such as retarded cunt that I fear for your own safety. If you think for one second that Pirates now is worse than Undertaker then, you are dumber than a stupid rock.
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>>161766663
Damn.

I'm gonna make a team anyway
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>>161766552
I'm not enjoying it all thanks to jade druid
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>>161766632
>>161766703
Yeah, but you can't have fireball/hex/sheep because you're a warlock (outside courier shenangins)

It's not awful in Reno, if there's a minion that absolutely must die like Brann against Dragon Priest then you're damn well gonna blow a mana crystal to kill it. And once you reach turn 10 it's a rather neat hard removal.

>>161766656
This guy gets it
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>>161766215
It's day 3 you fucking retard
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>>161766605
>pirate warrior would favored against previous cancer decks therefore it's more cancerous
>a deck today would be favored against decks that were made of all classic cards
/hsg/, everyone
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>>161765942
>>161766435
>>161766628
thanks m8s will check those out
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>>161766765
undertaker was fun though,it got me almost to legend. Buzzard too,almost
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>>161766435
>>161766628
>Overlord
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Patches should be "whenever you attack with a pirate, summon this minion from your deck".

This slows Pirate Warrior down slightly and gives every deck some counterplay (e.g. turn 1 arcane missiles to kill the shitty 1 health pirate and stop patches coming out).
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>>161764661
The real reason is I DONT WANT TO FUCKING PLAY WITH CLASSIC SET FOR ETERNITY
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So, while people complain about pirate warriors, they're easy to counter.
But half the people I'm facing are jade druid, how do I counter them ? I might have a chance with an aggro deck, according to their draw, but I don't see a clear counter. Maybe a combo deck ?
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>>161766975
Is the next season out yet? This shit was pretty based. Definitely a better trapped in vidya than fucking sao.
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>>161767006
it also means they can't attack with their 1mana pirate if you coined doomsayer as they will auto lose patches
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>>161767006
Yeah Geist of St. Traft didn't see play at all ;^)
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Is Mayor Meme actually good in arena?
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>>161767127
miracle rogue
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>>161766823
Jade druid isn´t even that bad, just go face and for most part ignore his minions. Even with midrange/control he usually has problems dealing with that because he´s even slower than maly druid.
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>>161764661
>Go play wild if you want to play old decks!
>Literally can't play old Oil or Handlock because lul why rotate when you can nerf
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>>161767224
no
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>>161767167
When would you ever ever not pick Sylvanas
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>>161767118
I sigh every time I see these posts. Why can't there just be a rotating core set...
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>>161767331
>handlock
Don´t remind me, man. I once dusted almost all my stuff just to build that deck and then they fucking nerf it to the ground.
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>>161767224
Take sylvanas. Mayor meme sucks in arena. Too few spells and a 4 health minion for 9 mana will lose you the game on the spot
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>>161767224

What mod are you using? I need something like that since I am absolute shit in arena.
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>>161767383
At this point I bet blizzard would saw "well after we announced standard lots of people dusted a lot of their wild cards, so if we suddenly put those wild cards back into standard people would be mad so we won't do it"
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>>161766586
Aggro murloc pally is fine, at least until the meta settles and only the purest form of cancer is playable.
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>>161767150
There's supposed to be an upcoming movie that's basically just a recap of the series and a single episode direct to video release that continues from where the anime ended.

Have you read the novels yet? Volume 12 just came out. For reference the anime covers the first three volumes while the direct to video thing is supposed to cover volume 4 more or less. If you're interested it's worth reading from the start.
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>>161767331
How did they nerf handlock again? I have forgotten the deck completely
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>>161767118
then quit the game
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>>161767587
I don't remember all the nerfs, but raising molten giant's cost hurt it bad
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>>161767419
>spells

Mayor affects all targeting, including minion combat.
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>>161766710
Fuck off. I tried to climb up the ladder with lots of different decks only to get shit on by Blizzard's forced 50. No fucking way that I'll constantly get my Kaz and Reno, or Jade Masks, or any counter to whatever faggot, in the bottom 5 cards of my deck.

You said it yourself, I would rather know the exact moment I lose rather than spend 10 turns waiting on 1 out of 2-6 cards that can turn the game for me, while my opponent topdecks anything he needs every single turn.

I only have 58% win rate with cancer Warrior and I'm already closing in on rank 5. I'll play some other shit when I stop caring about losing.
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Anyone got a good stealth or jade rogue list?
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>>161767587
removed molten giant from the game. still a playable deck
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>>161767484
I'm hoping people just bitch and moan enough about reno rotating that they announce a rotating standard set. The benefits are so plentiful and obvious.

>>161767565
I haven't read any, I will now though since HxH is probably going to be on hiatus for another decade or so for all I can tell.
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I play Control Warrior in wild and I do see anything in the new set worthwhile. Am I wrong?
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>>161767331
>>161767413
I miss handlock. Probably the most stable deck for me.
>>161767587
Molten Giant. Made the deck unplayable cause you can no longer throw an 8/8 at 15 health or less.
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>>161767587
Cut Molten Giant to pieces, which was a huge crux of the deck for molten+shadowflame or defender of argus.

Their reasoning was "well we nerfed druid combo so staying at low health is less risky" and in the same breath remove healbot from the game
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>>161767737
Well not classic handlock but renolock works fine. Don´t think you´re ever gonna be using ancient watchers either though.
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>>161767760
no
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>>161767812
>>161767797
>>161767737
Huh

Im glad I only play Rogue
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>if you play a slow enough priest deck people will actually just quit on you rather than play it out even if they might win
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>>161767848
have you played handlock?
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>>161767426
heartharena overwolf app
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Considering I only plan on opening MSG packs from here on out, would it be crazy to craft the few missing good classic leggos? I still need Thalnos, Alexstraza, and Harrison. Only class leggos I'm missing are Tony and Velen
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>>161767984
I used to, dusted pretty much my whole collection for it back in the day. Gonna build me a reno/kazzakus deck tomorrow.
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>>161768028
Thalnos is good. The others I'd hold off on until you want to play a deck that uses them.
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People think Hearthstone is F2P.
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>>161768028
Thalnos and Harrison are pretty evergreen.
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>>161768121
they are correct
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>>161768121
I've been playing f2p since release, what's the problem?
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>>161768121
secret,midrage hunter is still very viable
Tempo,midrange and mechmages are a thing
Murloc decks are strong
etc
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>>161768121
It is.
It's just play for 2 years or pay to progress past rank 17.
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Guys I worked out the ultimate Patches nerf that everyone will be happy with!

"After you play a Pirate, there is a 50% chance this minion is summoned from your deck"
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Is pirate warrior the most brainless, fastest taking-over, most broken a class has emerged out of a new card set yet?
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Is Reno priest actually good? A couple of people have reached legend with it already
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>>161768334
yes
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>>161768334
Pales in comparison to undertaker hunter
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>>161768345
>is a deck that reached legend good?
what's your qualification for "ok deck", 4-0 at blizzcon?
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Can't afford new packs. Midrange Shaman still good?
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>>161768334
>want to play cancer
>it has 3 legos that I'm missing
tfw
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>>161768508
no
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>>161768539
What three? I thought it only runs Patches and Leeroy. Everything else is probably replaceable.
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>>161768551
Well should I even play if i cant afford new packs then?
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>>161768539
>3
Patches and?

Tell me you have LoE anon...
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I just unpacked gruul? Could this card ever be useful?
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Christ why are all the best decks so mindlessly easy to play? Is Rogue the patrician's choice? Zoolock is much better with discards and demon buffs too
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>>161768648
But it rotates in like 5 months, im sure I can wait
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>>161768345
Who reached legend with it? I saw dog trying to do a priest deck to legend but switch to reno mage because priest wasn't working out.
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>>161768620
>>161768648
Some of them run Hobart
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>>161768461
Naxx was an adventure. It came out in pieces and even after all the pieces undertaker hunter used got released I feel it still took at least a few days to start emerging and dominating.

But pirate warrior, it must have not even been a few hours after the expansion released that it took over 90% of the ladder, hammering face every time and finishing every game by turn 6. It's insane. Every other possible new deck type was basically aborted before it even had a chance because everything immidiately had to compete with such broken shit.
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>>161768843
Hearthstone is mindless to play in general.

Whats the best rogue deck out there now anons? Miracle?
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>>161768874
Does Reno mage work right now? What´s a good list?
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>>161768770
He's great in some brawls.
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>>161768862
My point is that you are this new.

In fact, since this set got released it really shows how many new players are here and how the old /hsg/ game moved away. I've been here for ~2 years but I guess I'm the exception now.
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>>161768874
Hotform got to legend with a less greedy version that only had 1 shadowform and no paletress/thoughtsteal

>>161768482
shrug, I mean pirate rogues reached legend before but I'm not gonna drop 1600 on Sky Cap'n, if that makes sense
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>>161768770
Its too slow in the current meta

Every time I lose a game its by fucking turn 5 or 6

There needs to be more cheap neutral taunts and heals
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>>161768334
yes and I look forward to some people trying to understate how good it is
>it's only been a few days you idiots, of course an aggro deck is the best right now
>it's only been a week, we haven't figured out the set yet
>it's only been a month! Shaman is still better than this
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>>161768993
I just want Belcher back. Infested Tauren is really meh in comparison.
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>>161768903
Different times

It's not because of the deck power, it's because now literally everyone is netdecking, from a website that allows deck building before an expansion is even released so everyone can participate in the cancer
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>>161768770
Elditch Horror is better.
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>>161768980
sorry for sounding angry, i'm tilted from ladder
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>>161769064
shaman might actually have a good matchup with maelstrom portals and TFB
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>>161769087
belcher is retarded because of N'Zoth
infested Tauren was made to be weak specifically for n'zoth
Sen'jin and cyclopian horror are otherwise better neutral taunts at 4 mana
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Are minions that get returned to hand supposed to keep their bonus stats now or did I just get a bug in brawl?
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>>161768926
Yeah it was destroying pirate warrior and midranged shaman
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>>161769248
they should become fresh copies, aka no more buffs
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>man, people are so sick of this card what should we do
>wait until it rotates out
>it's classic so it'll never rotate out
>ok, let's nerf it so that it'll never get played, ever. same thing, right?
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>>161769164
it's okay anon, it happens to all of us
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>>161769248
I dunno but the same thing happened to me
>opponent plays Cyclopian Horror
>it gets shadowstepped
>he plays it again for double the HP gained
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How could you nerf pirate warrior?
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renomage beats idol druid

it's an even greedier deck
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>>161769087
>>161768993
What about the new 4/5 taunt that gets discounted if there's 3 or more minions?
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>>161769320
you tell em xD blizzard btfo
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>>161769486
play taunts
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Dragon priest beats Reno mage

t. won one game against reno mage
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If fel reaver was in standard, I would put it in my miracle druid just to get to the end of my deck quicker. I'm not even joking.
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>>161768249
If it cost 2 years of your life, I'd hardly call that "free"
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What the fuck am I supposed to do against Warrior swinging for 7 on turn 2 (it can literally beat a fucking coined doomsayer for christ sake) or Paladin dropping 5/5 knife jugglers on turn 3?

I'm really not enjoying this expansion
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Yarrrrrr im in charge now
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>>161769290
Crap now i gotta decide if i wanna make Reno mage or Renolock. Fuck.
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>>161769384
For me it was bladed cultist that cast Vanish.
I could then play it again as a 3/4
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>tfw just played a pirate warrior at fucking rank 2 that made a clear misplay in attack order literally every turn but still smoked my hand paladin by turn 5 30-0

Great Game

This fucker literally ended his turn without attacking with patches. He attacked me twice breaking his weapon then summoned his bloodsail raider. It's amazing when you know nothing about playing the easiest deck in the game but still stomp someone at nearly legend
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>>161769572
That's what the auctioneer is for, saving your low-cost spells and Innervates and never shuffling jades until you get to the end of the deck with his help
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>>161765489
>you can have between 30-50 cards and up to 3 copies of the same card (except legos)
Stupid suggestion. People would still go for the 30 card deck since lower quantity of cards = more consistent deck
>you can have an "extra deck" of 10 cards that you can swap cards before you actually mulligan so that you can tek some cards against certian classes/decks
I like this suggestion, but implementing it in a non retarded way is impossible for Team 5.
>instead of rotating sets (which is cancer btw) there should just be a banlist/limit to cards like you can run only 1 copy of 4mana 7/7 in your main and extra deck etc
Never going to happen. They don't want good goyims to rage because they can't use every card they bought with mommy's wallet.
>giving out more free packs, as a new player its literally cancer to get into it with all those cards
You get enough to work with as a new player in terms of packs and gold. What they should do is make the first wing of adventures free for everyone, or at least have a prologue that rewards two or three cards like with Karazhan.
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>>161769497
It may work against swarm decks like zoo or eboladin.

Pirate warrior might just have two pirates and a 4/3 win axe by turn 3.
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>>161769607
>moving the goalpost
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Guys I think I figured it out.

MSG is the expansion where they give out "counterfeit legend" to everyone who wants it.
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>>161769290
Would this same deck still be playable if I ran malygos instead of alexstraza?

I don't have alexstraza and I really want to play a reno mage deck. I have every single other card in that list you posted but that single one.
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>>161769497
It isnt enough

need like a taunt doppelganger when your opponent has 3 or more minions that summons a bunch of 2/1s
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Why not move cards into Wild instead of fucking them so they're useless in both standard and wild?
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>>161769820
Alex is more like your win condition but you could probably run maly you don't even need alex all the time, but against like warrior it's important to get iceblock and reno early
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has anyone here got past 10 yet im finding it difficult this month i normally hit legend withing first day
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>>161769497
if there's three or more minions there's a frothing on board
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>>161769708
Wrong fallacy. You mean appeal to ambiguity, since the word "free" simply implies cost, and it was never established that the cost strictly implied money.
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Is Patches worth crafting for Pirate Warrior or is everyone teching in too much weapon hate?
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Since we seem to have an influx of new players, well I'm curious:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11792397
http://www.strawpoll.me/11792397
http://www.strawpoll.me/11792397
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>>161769936
Just play pirate warrior
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>>161769987
Of course it is

Weapon removal doesnt even matter because its too slow
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>>161769694
What do you think I was doing? My point is I would like fel reaver on top of auctioneer to make it even faster. Most people would take the bait and play as many cards as possible before killing the fel reaver, essentially helping my game plan. Imagine chaining auctioneer innervate and 6 idols with no cards left in your deck as soon as turn 10.

Also, fel reaver is a fucking 5 mana 8/8.
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>>161769856
I can give you 5 reasons

Team 5
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>>161770024
is reno decks appliable?
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>>161766605


The only card thats power creep in porate warrior is patches and even then by such a measly amount that its not the problem.

The problem is that control doesnt have those gaps that pirate warrior now has filled.
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>>161770079
I was but crazy influx of control and taunts now its not viable anymore
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someone post the best midrange shaman deck so i can use this dumbass gold al akir
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Guys, Reno Mage or Renolock? What´s stronger right now?
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>>161770024
Better poll would be "When did you stop playing Hearthstone?"
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How 2 outplay this?
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>>161770171
I'm working on it but need more dust. I used the pic since it was on the desktop already.
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>>161770132
Why not take it to Wild?
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>>161770287
lol just shard it family, its useless this meta
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>>161770024
Betafag here.

Remember when everyone bitched about priest being the most OP bullshit?

Remember when the rogue hero power was the most brokenly OP horseshit that literally made the game unplayable?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.
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>double renounce dankness warlock in arena
>boogey monster as my only legendary

meme overload
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>>161756532
Why does everyone keep saying dragon priest beats jade Druid?

Jade Druid is raping my face as dragon priest. If they start up the golems there is nothing I can do
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>>161770348
I bet heroic strike will be 2 mana soon (or well "soon" as in blizzards next balance patch but god knows how many months that'll be)
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>>161770398
Druid can't even make it to turn 10 against secret paladin.
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>>161770324
I find it interesting that most players are answering beta so far. It make sens to have them stay with the game even if its shit. I'm one of them myself, I would love to drop this hot pile of garbage at times but the investment of time and energy playing this is just too big.
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>>161770442
People really only bitched about MC for priest in beta, same thing with pyro
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dragon priests are fucking fdoing my head in
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>she will never tgethe scoop on your heart
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Are they necessary for Pirate Warrior?
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Why is hearthstone general so hideously bad at this game?

Posts like these legitimately blow my mind >>161770475
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>>161770608
Necessary? no.
A plus? Hell yeah.
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>>161770558
>tgethe
wow anon you fucked up really bad there
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>>161770608
no
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>>161770608
Hobart is not
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>>161756734
I'd drop savage roar and add another nourish.

Also need that 3 3 that ramps
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>>161770625
there's been an influx of redditors here ever since the expansion reveal
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>>161767723
this is mine, currently rank 13. I've also tried running abusives instead of swashburgulers, sargent sally instead of refreshment vendor, and drakes instead of lotus agents.

sally wasn't terrible, good when buffed or rezzed by n'zoth, sometimes even good just as 1/1, but overall I think vendor is better

drakes are often staple in rogue but this is a more minion focused list and I really think the agents are better in it, also shaman and and druid have a ton of good cards so you often get something good

abusive is probably better than swashburgler, his buff is very strong on jade swarmer or MoM and it's more consistent than burgler who sometimes gives you something good but often times gives you shit like shatter, also if you're playing sally abusive is good
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are there ANY good hunter decks in this expansion
got legend when barnes came out and have only played hunter like a sperg since beta so don't want to bother if there isnt
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>>161770717
>there's been an influx of redditors here ever since ~2010
fixed
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>>161770717
CAN EVERYONE STOP SAYING FUCKING INFLUX
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>>161757298
Illidan loved her.
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>>161770804
Agreed. The influx of people saying influx is getting on my nerves.
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>>161770804
if you return to reddit then i will stop using the word influx
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>>161770608
If you want to win past rank 10, yes

Except Hobart, he's too slow for your precious mana crystals when your game plan is to win by turn 6 tops
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>>161770804
Yeah the influx of people saying influx is really troublesome.
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>>161770859
I SWEAR TO FUCK IF I EVER FIND YOU IM GOING TO INFLUX YOUR ARSEHOLE YOU FUCKING AMERICUNT, AND THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH REDDIT WE HAVE THE BEST THREADS TBHFAM, UGH FUCK THIS PLACE IM OUT
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taunt and heal druid with 1 jade idol is doing well against aggro. before you point out rank, i'm literally on my 4th match. have just reinstalled hearthstone
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>>161770947
I wonder which subreddit will recieve a slight influx of new members.
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>>161771091
>is doing well
>rank 19

While I dont doubt, give it some time anon and see if you can properly climb with it.
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Should I buy a few TGT cards before they go out of stock for wild?
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Hello friends. So after what I feel is enough games, though I think I want 20 more to be sure, I have the druid list. Got me to rank 5 very easily.

There it is and what my matchups were like. I saw Kolento playing a version that was -1 Gad, +1 War and that's a change I can totally get behind is pirate warrior is common, but that problem with that card is it becomes by far your best Shadow Word: Death target against Drago Priest which is just as popular if not more right now. Getting war death'ed is kind of a GG you can't spend 7 mana to do nothing in that matchup.

I feel that as decks come out that stymie pirate warrior, this deck will only become better. I don't feel I can lose any control matchup. It is hard to play I will say.

I dunno if the list is final the meta is too new but I can't imagine any other druid deck being better than the Jade version.
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>>161771091
>rank 19

yea fuck off
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>>161771208
the latest guy was playing all the meta warrior cards. if he had bad cards in his deck, he didn't draw them
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>>161770730
What's Mistress Of Mixtures' purpose on the deck? Is it for the heal later on or to combat early aggression?
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>>161770947
Anon this is serious. There is an influx of testosteron in your body, if you continue to behave like that theres gonna be an influx of male genetal parts in your anal cavity
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>playing reno mage
>go against the fucking greediest priest ever
>end up in fatigue winning off a rag lightlord thanks to elise

I actually had fun
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I really like this card, in fact Warlock got a lot of amazing cards this expansion
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>>161771393
im male so fuck off with your feminist bullshizen
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>>161770730
If you're not running drakes then there's no reason to run bloodmage or eviscerate. Replace both of those with cold blood and one sap. With n'zoth you should run journey below to cycle faster and get a deathrattle minion, replace swashburgler or undercity huckster with two of those. Instead of refreshment vendor and xaril you need an answer to pirate warrior aggro, so take both of those out and put in one acidic ooze, and edwin van cleef, otherwise you lose too much tempo in the early mid-game. I also wouldn't run jade spirit without shadowstep to fully capitalize on the mechanic. Maybe remove those and put in another defender or argus and a sylvanas to make it stronger against dragon priest decks.

This is my decklist so you can consider it. I'm rank 10 with it. >>161757921
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>psych myself up for an arena run
>0 legendaries
>maybe 1 epic
>3 rares
>rest is garbage
>none are even over a 90% synergy
>hope for the best

>every single person I face has multiple epics, at least 1 legendary and ALWAYS has more efficient cards and beaters than I do

3 arena runs, all 0/3

Arena is so much worse than any sort of drafting experience I've ever tried. How in the bloody bumblefuck am I supposed to win with a deck that folds to a fucking vanilla deck?

The only deck I've ever gone more than 1 win is 4/3 when I actually got cards that weren't absolute trash.
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I'm playing my 7th (seventh) pirate warrior in a row.

That deck is so retarded. Blizz has outdone themselves yet again. It feels like face hunter in its prime.

As a non-aggro deck, it's basically a lottery if I'm going to draw my aoe or heal before they kill me on turn 5-6.
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>>161771531
>not dying by turn 4
Bad players desu. consider yourself lucky you make it to 6
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>>161771325
Addendum: You'll notice my only bad matchup is, ironically the Mirror Match. That's because this matchup, more so than others is very coin-flippy. Once a play begins getting into their sets, the other player can only sit back and watch. And lose. The deck can't interact with itself, so to speak. So I think I just got unlucky. That being said most of my opponents had the 2/3 4 mana Jade thing so maybe that was the reason why. Obviously if the mirror becomes a common thing I have to rethink the list.
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>on a win streak
>get shit draws vs retarded aggroniggers
>swap to a deck that plays better against aggroniggers
>queue in to dragon priest 5 times in a row

I FUCKING HATE THIS MEME
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>>161771325
I'd personally take out one Jade Idol and one Auctioneer for Druids of the Claw, but that's just a personal opinion.

I feel that Auctioneer and JI are only really suited to slow games and that in !most cases you've either won or lost long before you can make use of them efficiently.
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How does /hsg/ feel about Wrathion? Is he good, gameplay wise? Do you enjoy him thematically? And are you putting him in every Priest deck for Wranduin shipping purposes?
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>>161771518
If you think card rarity wins you games you are a really bad arena player. Let me guess, you average 1-2 wins.

Most of the really strong cards are basic or common. Epics are almost invariably shit in arena and leggos are situational for the most part, unless they draft something stupid like Tirion or Dr Boom.

You can't complain about arena when you're just plain bad. Arena has it's issues but epics and legendaries are NOT one of them.
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>Make a meme freeze deck for fun
>Gets me to Rank 12 on its own

WHAT IS HAPPENING THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT
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>reno mage mirror
>Brann + dirty rat
>Pull my out my reno and manic soulcaster

JUST
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>>161771782
Oh wow, rank 12 bro

Leave some pussy for the rest of us
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Has team 5 addressed the card sparkling?

Its bullshit that I can get such good reads on what my opponent has when he buffs something in hand
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>>161771837
Pull's out my*
fuck man. Second time I see this card today, its hilarious.
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>>161771224
>Do you often play Wild? ('I might in the future' does not count)
>Do you have a lot of important TGT cards missing from your collection? (if it's only a few, you might as well craft them and never buy again)

It's a new expansion release, you're supposed to be all-in on MSoG now, besides you have like 3 months to make up your mind
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Should I dust Knuckles? I opened the guy from a pack and stuck him in my Handbuff Hunter but he has just been underperforming whenever I play him.
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>>161771753
you're a faggot, go gas yourself
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>>161771960
>Should I dust Knuckles?
Anon the set just came out.

So no
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I got outmemed, king krush from paladin, should have played around it :^)
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>>161771739
Druid is a good card and meta call, good idea. I did run a version with 2 previously but I felt it was clunky. In theory running a wide 5 slot is brilliant in a deck with 4 wild growths. I felt the version I have now gave me more flexibility, as in lower average mana cost.

Consider in this deck Arcane Giant is basically always 0 mana. It's easier to get this thing to 0 now than ever before. I'm pretty baffled pros like Zalae say Giant need to be cut. The turns I play Giant I won 95% of the time.

As for 2 auctioneers, I saw Kolento also only ran 1 and I don't disagree with it. But I also feel it's a meta call. If you are seeing 50% pirate warrior it's quite bad, but in every other matchup it has super high win%. It ensures you never run out of cards, you always get into your sets, and it's a 4/4 which isn't irrelevant. The games that were hard were the games I DIDN'T hit an auctioneer or nourish, not the games my hand was cluttered with them. Auctioneer feels more powerful in this deck than it did in Miracle Rogue honestly.
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>>161771960
Knuckles is the coolest and doesn't afraid of anything don't you dare anon
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https://a.pomf.cat/fjtnhn.mp4
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>>161772078
any big card would have rekt you you idiot. even war golem.
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God I love aggro murloc pally against the plague of dragon niggers.
>tfw your dragonfire potions don't even clear buffed to fuck murlocs
>tfw your broken 5/6 dragon gives you a choice between Small-time Recruits and two 1-mana murlocs
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>>161767723
I've posted a jade n'zoth deck that has carried me to rank 10 so far. I made a stealth deck as well but it doesn't have the strong synergy and tools to deal with the current meta that jade n'zoth does.

Stealth: attached image
Jade: >>161757921
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>>161771378
mostly anti aggro, v aggro you can even raptor it, but sometimes it saves you later too

>>161771491
I feel rogue has to run fan of knives and if you're running fan of knives you might as well run bloodmage and evis is just a good card, cold blood and sap are easily more situational than evis if I was going to run them I'd make it more face oriented, journey below is certainly worth considering but I'd never take out huckster, ooze could be a nice anti meta card and I admit vendor is not that amazing it's already something I've tried changing out, don't really want to play edwin and xaril is better than people give him creit for imo, I found I didn't have enough jade golem cards to really get things going without spirit, I don't feel good about running shadowstep in a non miracle deck, I had sylvanas in the deck originally but took her out for something... second MoM maybe? I don't remember. She would be nice to have though for sure but maybe that's where journey can come in letting me discover her sometimes in match ups where I'd want her but not forcing me to run her all the time.
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jacked that i just got 12/0 arena with priest
damn that talonpreist is amazing
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>>161772246
no regrets
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>>161772335
holy fuck man
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>>161772058
What's wrong with wanting a cute, white boy to get BLACKED dragon'd?
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SO MANY FUCKING PIRATE WARRIORS

FUCKKKKKK
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>>161772335
All golden decks are not okay, anon. You disgust me.

>>161772314
I'd believe it. And goodu jobu.

>>161771960
No, he's cool and pretty decent. It's just that nobody is talking about Hunter right now since the playstyle isn't as exciting as Highlander Kazakus or as a easy as Pirate Warrior. I'm playing him. He's huge value. It's insane when you hit hit with even a +2/+2 buff.
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>>161772117
I agree competely, I'm just pretty certain that pirate warrior's gonna start breathing down our collective neck more and more in the coming weeks.
Even with its few bad matchups, the ability to win a game in literally less than five minutes makes it an amazing ladder climbing deck.
I figure everyone will tech against it in the near future, be it through oozes or taunt.
That said, an extra Auctioneer and Jade does smoothen the combo a lot if you need it before you're five cards away from fatigue.

Cutting giant seems like a weird decision, I guess you could fit Ancients of War or the Aviana & Kun combo instead, but I'd be shocked if it raised your winrate. Can't really see anything else that would even remotely benefit the deck.
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So, why did they remove the cross-board murloc buffs?

Murloc mirros were always hilarious because of it.
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>>161772314
Priest is maybe best class in arena now, imo. 1 mana kill 2 creatures potion? top kek. 3/4 with +3hp? lmao. Dragonfire potion? Sure why not.
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>>161772298
If you don't want to shadowstep, you might also consider dropping one of something you have two of in order to add brann. You have quite a few battlecry minions, so you'd get a lot of value out of him. Your jade spirits will ramp twice as fast, which is a huge tempo gain on your opponent. Just that one card means you get way more value out of every single jade card in your deck.

Fan is fine, I don't run it because I'm running dark iron skulker and I run cold blood over eviscerate in my deck because it has a lot of minions.

Just want to mention also I'm glad to see someone trying different things to keep jade rogue alive on the ladder other than me. Best of luck in your climb.
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What deck counters pirate warrior hard?

I had it with these niggers.
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>>161772890
Meme them and run every single taunt and self heal in the game.
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>>161772890
>>161772923
this is what i did
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Wild Shouldn't have standard nerfs applied except the yogg nerf.
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>drunk
>want to play hs
>Play pirate warrior
>Still win
This deck is ridiculous
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>>161772838
>add Brann

I have Brann in there anon.

And yea I've tried a few different decks and this one is easily the most fun I've had with the new set.
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Aya is a qt
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why is every face pirate decks runs patches?
its literally a useless card that can be swapped for a more face damage card.
am i missing something? does patches do more than charge 1 damage and die the following turn?why is every face pirate decks runs patches?
its literally a useless card that can be swapped for a more face damage card.
am i missing something? does patches do more than charge 1 damage and die the following turn?
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>>161772991
This, wild is basically the dumpster of problematic cards so it may as well go full retard.
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>>161773129
Why would you want more cards when the potential face damage in your deck is probably enough to kill everyone twice

Patches is one less card in your deck, a free ping, and a body on the board. It's insane.
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Do you still only get regular packs for winning arena? If so that's pretty shitty considering the way things are going with normal mode.
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Why is playing against Mage a struggle to fight against a class with easily 8 different ways to remove things from the board?

Just off the top of my mind
Fireball
Frostbolt
Torch
Polymorph
Firelands

Why is this fucking class allowed to remove EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CARD EVER you want to play to the point you're just on an empty board because it just keeps answering to everything from hand
God fucking damn there isn't a more unfun class to play against than this cancer
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>>161773239
don't try to talk sense to the shieldbearer anon
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>>161772520
hes not black hes a pooinloo, and im not going to lie pooinloos know how to suck cock, trust me on this one
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>>161773336
Because its a MAGE ? I mean mage uses spells, no? Makes sens to be the removal class.
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>>161773129
What other face decks develop 3 minions and hit you in the face for 4 damage on turn 1?

I feel like this is bait, and if it is then it is good bait, but if not then God damn you are dense.
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How long before some good decklists are out so I know how to spend my dust?
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>>161772923
>make a turbo meme taunt warrior to combat the pirate warrior plague
>only play against dragon priests

I love you, Blizzard.
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>>161773336
nobody runs polymorph but you forgot arcane missiles and arcane blast
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Okay guys, hear me out. Taunt... N'Zoth Warrior. Screenshot this it'll become a tier 1 deck that utterly devastates Pirate Warrior and has a win condition through N'Zoth as well as Alexstrasza -> Grommash to rush down Jade Druid before they can pump out their 10+/10+ golems.
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>>161773386
whats with the influx of white boys and pooinloos, i might have to try one if they are that good
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>>161773336
Is this your first card game? Usually is the case for anyone new, complaining about removal.
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>>161773451
People run polymorph in reno decks because value.
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>>161773536
reno mage only has one of each removal tho
it's tempo mage that removes every fucking card every turn
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>>161773507
>influx

you fuckers are cancer i swear to FUCK
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>>161773336
Its their specialty
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>>161773129
He's one of the best cards in the deck.
1: he gives the opponent 1 more pirate to remove before they're really prepared to do so
2: he activates cultist, etc
3: he helps trade with stuff on turn 1 and 2 if necessary (eg mana wyrm, wyrmwest agent)
4: he greatly improves the decks consistency by more reliable starts, more reliable pirate activators, and 1 less card

>>161772991
some are needed. Yogg is far from the worst.
FUCK facing unnerfed warsong patron warrior for example.
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>>161772761
it was too complicated
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>>161772761
>tfw you could steal any anyfin and kill paladins with the quad warleader buffs
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when will old gods rotate out?
considering crafting n'zoth but not convinced
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>>161773639
average hearthtard couldn't play patron
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>>161773094
Ah, sorry I'm retarded. Forgot you had it in there already.

Yeah, same. Although I'm certain dragon priest is probably the strongest deck to come out of the new meta so far, I enjoy jade n'zoth way more, and I feel it's still strong enough to compete for a spot in tier 2 because it has a lot of answers to almost anything on the ladder, assuming the stars align after you mulligan and you manage to play perfectly.
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>>161773687
2018
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>>161773620
there is really an influx of people being triggered by words. Must be rampant influx of autism
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>>161773687
first expansion of 2018
N'zoth is probably the safest non-classic craft there is
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>>161772752
We'll just have to see what cards and decks become popular in the coming weeks. What I really think will happen is Zoo and Mid Shaman come back since those decks are just as strong as before and people in this game really just want to win, not have fun or do new things. Those decks should punish pirate warrior a lot. Consider how Imp Gang, Voidwalker, Argus/Spirit Claw, Maelstrom, Fearal Spirit line up. Like it's just GG right?
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>everyone on /hsg/ says pirate warrior is OP
>make the deck and play it
>literally forced 50% winrate, half the time get paired up against a shitty reno deck with no removal, the other 50% of the time get paired against literally pure taunt decks

i think you guys are overexaggerating this deck
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>>161773687
1 year 6 months time
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I'm having the arena run of my life right now, a janky fucking Priest with a ton of situational cards against infinity legendaries and still winning. Just beat a Mage who Portaled into a gdddamn 4 mana Antonidas (and yes got two Fireballs from it same turn) while we were even on cards/board and 30 health both. Beat a Warlock who played T4 Kazakus, a Druid who got fucking Golden Monkey down while ahead on board, and I don't even have any Deaths/Entombs/MCs or the like. I'm winning purely by momentum and a fucking planet's worth of luck, while playing the best I've done in years. I must be stealing the luck of all starving Africans and sweat-shop working Asian children in the world.
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>>161773129
He's Dr. Boom/Tirion levels of power per mana. If you don't know why, you are missing Hearthstone on a fundamental level.
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>>161773747
>50 winrate with pirate warrior

god you must be bad.
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>>161772827
1x potion, 2x talonpriest, 2x pw death, 2x northshire, and a mind control
it was pretty fucking tough for anyone to do anything
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>>161773734
lfdbvmwoibhnr3205gh02bhnrb

you fucking piece of shit saying the word triger btw literally exposed youra plebitditor so cuk ioff back ther you fucking CUNT
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>>161773747
It's like mech mage. Unstoppable with the dream hand, but runs out of steam fast.
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>>161773880
lel, rank 13 i take it
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>>161773606
They also run cabalist's tomb, spellslinger, and babbling book.
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>>161773639
The only two that are needed are Yogg and Undertaker and maybe force roar. Nerfs that kill archetypes are just dumb and warsong could've been nerfed to not give charge to minions when they go over 3 attack.
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its happening finally on a 3 win priest streak can i get to 4 wins and maybe to rank 16?
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>60% of my deck is draw
>sometimes I don't get any draw
>instalty lose

cool
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>>161773961
>someone spent their free time making this
partially makes you wonder
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>>161773745
Strongest decks next week will be Zoo, Renolock, Dragon Priest, and Mid-range Shaman.

Jade druid and pirate warrior won't survive tournament meta, but will continue to punish bad players who can't adapt on the ladder, so they'll appear to be stronger than they really are for the rest of this month. Jade N'zoth rogue is the only deck that still needs to prove itself, due to the inherently high skill-ceiling of rogue decks in general, but I predict jade still won't be as strong as good ol' miracle.
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>>161773961
i have honestly never seen a game shilled so blatantly since borderlands on /v/ in 2009
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>>161773745
I honestly don't know what would be worse, the aggro meta or stagnation for another four months.
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>>161773961
You're getting more creative with this.
Reminds me I should complete the dailies there.
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>>161773724
>>161773742
>>161773748
thanks brehs
the cats in the bag on this one
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am i being hacked my game just says opponent instead of his name
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>>161773961

How much do they pay you to shill THIS hard?

I would just call you autistic and be done with it, but this is some next level shilling, beyond anything the Clintons could pull off
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>>161773745
I'm really surprised I'm not seeing more shamans while every third game at rank 10 is against pirate warrior.

I guess people are just tired of shamanstone experimenting with new decks thus far, because shaman still has all the bullshit cards plus a cheap heal now, which makes it good against pirate warrior. I'm sure pirate warrior can still steal games from shaman because it's one of those decks, but shaman should fare better than most other decks.
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>>161774142
You're the only one doing the hacking here, hacker.
Have fun with your ban.
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>>161774142
he is stealing your cards AS WE SPEAK
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>>161774145
I'm just a copycat.
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OH shit EU servers are failing i think
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>>161774148
I made a jade shaman deck that's strong as hell, but the new mechanic isn't enough to hold my interest. I'm having way more fun with paladin and renolock.
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>try to out-tempo pirate warrior
>all the 1-drops have 1 life
>patches and the 1/3 weapon kill it for free

Really makes you think.
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>>161774070
It is what it is. In as much as it's Blizzard's fault for making Hearthstone played and won turns 1-4, it's the players fault for not trying anything else.

I've been 9/9 gold portraits for a while now so obviously I'm playing the game for different reasons than you're average player, but it's still disappointing. Honestly it only took 1 day for the ladder to be 66% Drago Priest and Pirate Warrior, which are functionally brainless curve decks of the same ilk of Mid Shaman.

1 day. That's all we got for a meme meta.
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Is the Don worth crafting?
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>cast fireball
>it stuck in a loop casting over and over
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I FUCKING LOVE PLAYING PRIEST IF ONLY I GOT TYRANDE WHEN I HAD THE CHANCE FUCK CANT YOU BUY THAT BITCH?!
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>>161774367
Sure, but he's not essential. So, if you're missing out on other more important legendaries, prioritize them over him. But he's cool.
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>>161774367
Just craft patches and get to legend
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>opponent plays tentacle of N'zoth

hey...thats actually pretty good against patches.
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whats a mage deck that dunks both pirate warrior and jadefag druids
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>>161774367
Only if you plan on fully investing in a buff archetype. Don into Doppelgangsters is just value city.

>>161774397
You can buy a code for her.
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>Try hand buff paladin
>lose to inspire reno priest
yup, this deck sucks.
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>>161774481
please dont play with my heart where can i buy a code for her?
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>>161774491
git gud
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>>161774535
Not him but I got a code on ebay for 2 bux since I was a non prime country
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>>161774471
If such a thing existed then the ladder wouldnt be 90% pirte warrior you dumbass.
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>>161774491
>lose one game. Give up on deck.
Anon
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>get the watch a friend win a game quest
>the only friend i have that plays hearthstone is terrible
>he's lost 12 games straight now
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>>161774535
Depends. I made ~30 extra amazon account for her code so I have that banked for now. I wonder how much they'll be worth in a year or so.

mmm...
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>>161774491
Priest can't do shit against those 3 7/7 dopplegangers, try again.
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>>161774535
Scalpers on ebay and shady russian sites. She's like 8-10 dollars on ebay right now.
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>>161774605
add me on EU

BestMageEU#2304
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>>161774671
>She's like 8-10 dollars on ebay right now.
Holyfuck I'll be RICH soon enough.
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>>161774605
you need to bully him, threaten that you will remove him from friends list on his next loss.

show him who is boss
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>>161774594
shaman already beats both fucko im just wondering if theres a mage alternative
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>>161773880
people who post this dumb shit always forget that mirrors are 50%

eg midrange shaman, at some point your winrate inevitably takes a huge dive because when you get high enough on ladder every other game is a mirror
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>>161774783
Im drunk enough to imagine that anime girl post here and say those words.
Go away weeb anime poster!%
You're corrupting me!
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what the hell is this jade spirit shit?
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Finley in Raza Priest y/n?
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>Killing a Druid with a 24 attack red mana wyrm
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Healing is one thing I really missed in Shaman going against aggro since I swapped out my healing waves for consistency. How bad is the new overload heal 6 with a body guy?
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>>161774920
No. Why?
Just play shadowform if you want the damage
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>This card made it past testing
GOOD JOB TEAM 5
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alternate cardwork when?

I want to see Aya in a casual outfit
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>>161774829
he said himself all he saw was meme decks and that he is at rank 17 you faggot
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>>161774887
cancer
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>>161772335
How this deck work
W/l?
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>>161774989
Post Red Mana Wyrmi Miracoli list
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>>161774989
that's the stuff man
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>>161775110
i have about 8 different miracolis. Which one you want?
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>>161774998
They started testing it back in BRM. It was almost released as a Dragon Whelp with the same effect.
They didn't release it in TGT as Skycapn because it was too strong.
They stopped giving a fuck though.
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>>161775004
I still think it's dumb that basic cards don't get changed with alternate heroes, like mirror image still having Jaina or animal companion still having Rexxar even with Medivh/Whatever that elf lady is called respectively
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>>161774997
You don't always draw Shadowform, and a trash hero power is still trash even if it's 0 mana, gives you one extra hero power activation over the course of the game. Priest HP is so bad that Raza isn't even considered that good in Reno Priest.
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The hero we need but don't deserve
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>>161775180
The best one
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>>161775004
I want to see her in no outfit.
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>>161775363
if you want a good deck why bother playing rogue?
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>>161775404
Because fuck druid and warrior?
Traitor fag Garrosh and wimpy bitch malfurion
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>>161775350
too bad the card is garbage
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hey /hsg/ , stopped playing right before karazhan expansion, thinking to get back to the game now.
Is kharazan worth it ?
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I love all these fags playing greedy decks and getting punished hard by patches.
RUN TAUNTS AND HEALS SHITTERS
I haven't seen a single deck running the new chow either.
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>build my entire deck around drawing one of 6 cards
>they are in the bottom 15 literally every game
>streamer builds a deck around one card
>top 10 every fucking time
explain this
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>>161775565
>I haven't seen a single deck running the new chow either.
I have no idea why not. That shit is banana.
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fucking murlocs fags why even play if your ghonna fuck aroud ranked ffs
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>>161775552
karazhan is barely worth it
msg is far better
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>>161775565
>I haven't seen a single deck running the new chow either

really? Like every Reno deck runs it now
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>>161775363
+1 mistress of mixtures
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>>161775552
The first two wings give some decent cards. Mostly the hunter stuff, Barnes, and maybe some of the priest stuff.
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>>161775565
>Implying there are good taunts if you arent playing warrior or priest
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>>161775645
The fact that only reno decks seem to run it is indicative of the problem
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>run heals an taunts
>get punished to fucking death by dragon priest which is also everywhere
>can no longer win against idol druid

t-t-thanks...
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>Against warrior
>Mulligan for early stuff
>It's actually tank-up tactician
oh fuck this guy knows
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>>161775093
Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose.
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>>161775664
Thanks mang!
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>>161775760
Most lists have a hard time finding space for it. Cutting 1-2 cards for a card that is utterly useless mid-late game is not easy.
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Well, that was fun.
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>>161775874
People did it back during naxx era.
Did everyone suddenly become retarded from the expansions since?
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>>161775503
Hotform says it's great.
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>>161767565
Can't wait to watch 24 minutes of lizard people fucking because that's all volume 4 of Overlord is.
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the game is shifted to aggro or control now ?
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>>161775995
he's a nigger
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>>161775863
ok is thrash;XD Le reddit meme
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>>161775760
Because the card is bad. 2/2s suuuuuuuuuuuck.
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>>161775887
Iceblock into double fireball?
I hope that happened you fucking jade bitch
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>>161775974
>Did everyone suddenly become retarded from the expansions since?
There seems to be a lot of new players that never saw the days of bring out.
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The hero was here all along.
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>>161775995
who?
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>>161776065
>a 1 mana 2/2 with an upside for you sucks
/Shieldbearergeneral/ everyone
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>>161775004
Is there a bigger version of this?
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HOLY SHIT 5 WINSTREAK WITH DRAGON PRIEST JUST GOT TO 16 ITS HAPPENING
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>>161776069
Actually Ice Block into Pyroblast into Reno into concede because ha ha fuck you I tanked through all that shit plus a bunch of spells plus Ragnaros
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Is Leeroy dramatically better than Reckless Rocketeer or can I hold off on crafting it for a while?
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>>161776076
Some classic art is so much better than what we have now
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remove Penny Arcade art from Hearthstone

>>161776147
Uhh, excuse me? I'm a Sorcerer's Apprentice.
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>>161776147
It does though, it dies to everything. There's a reason why only 1/3s and 2/3s for 1 get played (and 1/1s that draw you a card).
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>>161776236
He is dramatic better, yes.
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>>161776058
Ranks 20 to 10 you need to beat dragon priest.
Ranks 10 and higher you need to beat pirate warrior.
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>>161776236
>Is Leeroy dramatically better than Reckless Rocketeer
One more damage while being one mana less expensive

I'd say yeah
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So, I'm confused by Hand Buffadin. IS IT an aggro deck? Or is it midrange? Do I want to fill it with cards like Argent Squire and Argent Horserider? Or do I want to add in Tirion, Acolyte of Pain, and other "control"-ish cards?
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>>161776284
>it dies to everything
Except patches :^)
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>>161776236
>is patches better than stonetusk boar or should i hold off on crafting it for a while
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>>161776364
so pirate warrior is the new cancer ?
>>
Why is everyone playing pirate warrior when pirate rogue is absolutely INSANE.
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>>161776442
It's the scissors to priest's rock and druid's paper.
We are now firmly in the Rock paper scissors era.
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>>161776416
I'm going to blow your mind; It can be both.

Not only that, but there's a murloc aggro variant that has a slightly different set of strengths and weaknesses too.
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>>161776235
Jade golem is actually not what pisses me off it's the moonglade portals and feral rages.

>Try to race the druid.
>Heal heal armor
>lose

I'm very salty
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If you shuffle Reno twice into your deck with Brann and Soulcaster, does he still trigger when you draw one of him?
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>>161776195
Well, went ahead and found it for myself.
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>he thinks some cards dont have a higher % chance to be at the top or bottom of your deck for """game""" """balance"""
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>>161776262
I wouldn't say so. There's much less personality in that art. Mean Streets art is extremely vibrant, shit pops out at you.
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>>161776416
The aggro build is tested and pretty effective.

The midrange build is also fine, and it's the one where you want to run acolytes since you can't draw with Divine Favor and Small-time recruits is less effective. Just don't run Doomsayers, Loot Hoarders, and other control shit because there is no point.
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>>161776442
YEA the influx of pirate warios is fucking pathetic
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>>161775887
>tryhard tier 1 netdeck
>in casual

wow bro good job simply epibc
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>>161776563
>Everyone who wears a suit in Mean Streets is also wearing standard WoW giant pauldrons

Neat detail.
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>>161776524
Because "upgrade" is fucking crazy.
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>>161776583
blizzard is so blatant about the rng manipulation it's really stupid

i understand why they do it, but they should be upfront about it
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>>161776629
the influx of fagets saying influx is the real fucking cancer here
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3600 dust for me to craft pirate warrior. (Patches, Leeroy 3200, upgrade x1, bloodsail cultists x2 and smalltime x1 = 400+3600)

Should I go for it or just hold out on making decks till they get more stable? Id really wanna make a renomage deck, but Id need to craft solia kazakus and alex, not sure how good it is either.
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>>161776416
It can be either. You can run a bunch of 1's with the draw spell for hand size and consistency or you can run the big guys like "draw 2 if you control a 6 attack" and doppelgangster and play valuetown. Latter works better against control since not even flamestrike is getting rid of a board of five 7/7s
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>>161776540
that sound like a shitty meta
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>>161775004
You can do it yourself famalam
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>>161776635
It's the first time I played it man, I've never even had anyone play it against me so I have no idea if it's good

Seems pretty meme tier desu, what keeps it dying from aggro or midrange? Seems like I have to be pretty lucky to get Swipe just when I need it.
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>>161776617
Classic just has a certain variety that I like.
It's all too samey for me lately.
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>>161776583
>>161776747
There is literally nothing to support this.
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>>161776694
yeah I wish there was more weapon buffs/options for rogue by team 5 disagree.
>>
I'm mostly F2P but lately been putting more money into the game and playing more than I used to. I moved to a new town and Hearthstone scratches that MTG itch. I have enough dust to craft a legendary. What do you guys suggest?
Also, is there a decent list of cards from Adventures or packs that are useless?
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>>161776872
did you just conveniently forget about the pity timer?
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>>161777135
Figure out what you'll want to play the most, craft that
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>friend tries out Hearthstone for the first time
>everyone is using jade golem decks or pirate

no way he'll last the next few days without uninstalling
>>
New thread when
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>>161777238
Blizzard doesn't care about new players unless they drop $150 to catch up.
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>>161776218
What are the key dragon priest leggos?
>>
>>161776235
seriously why did i ever waste time with rogue when druid can pull the same tricks but is allowed to have healing on top of that
>>
>>161777135
sylvannus and ragnaros fit in lost of decks
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Jesus fucking christ everyone praised the jade decks yesterday then as soon as I craft mine it suddenly is a shit deck. Fuck this general is just a Reno decks circlejerk.
>>
>>161777135
If you want to do Jade Golems, craft Aya. If you have Reno and want to do the Kabal meme then craft Kazakus, if you are an aggro shitter then craft Don Han'Cho.
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>>161777298
Brann Bronzebeard and that's pretty much it. You can run Wrathion if you have him but he's not necessary

Deck runs surprisingly few leggos
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>>161776872
guess its just a coincidence that in over 10 hours of play, i haven't had grimestreet outfitter in my mulligan ONCE.
thats over 100 games btw.
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>>161776754
Anyone?
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>>161777372
Never craft shit in the first week of a release famalam
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>>161777135
Sylvannas
Ragnaros
Aya
in that order.
>>
>>161777287
Seems like a bad plan if they want the game to exist in the future.
>>
>>161776754
>>161777498
Never craft shit in the first week of a release famalam
>>
remove 1 mana 1/3s with effects
>>
>>161777606
Blizztards have given blizzard a golden parachute for so long they don't even care.
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>>161777135
Thalnos, Sylvanas and Ragnaros fit into most decks if you just need an all-purpose legendary. Specific cards like Vancleef and Tirion are class staples. It all depends on what you play and what you want. No use in crafting say, Patches if you're never gonna touch pirate aggro.

"useless cards" is iffy, especially for adventures since if Blizzard decides to support them, you can't get them again except by throwing away 35/80/300 dust. But there are some disenchanting guides online you can use to gauge cards from packs.
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>>161777445
So, no Ysera? I kninda want to try the deck out, but I only have Alex and both Deathwings when it comes to legendary dragons, and the two twilight guardians are kind of expensive for cards about to rotate out.
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So is Dirty Rat better Deathlord, or is it a worse Deathlord?
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>>161777715
Its not a deathlord, it's completely different.
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>>161777715
much, much worse
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>>161777714
You can run Ysera but she's not necessary since you have Netherspite Historian/Drakonid for value

Deathwing is alright for another board clear
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>>161777714
I would use this list, it's very strong against jade druid, pirate, and anything else. It is a tad weak against the greedy reno mirrors though.
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>>161777715
If your opponent got a good early game mulligan Dirty Rat is fine. On the flip side, that card can turn your opponent's first draw Rag into an insta loss for you.
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>trade favorably with other golems vs your own
>deny buffadin his buffs and carddraw
apologize.
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>>161777847
At the same time though, since the minion comes out on your turn, you can always ensure you'll have a card to deal with whatever is popped.

Then again, it also has worse stats, so the later you drop it, the less effective the 2/6 body will be.
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>>161778020
don't forget
>unstealthes
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>>161766628
Konosuba
Grimgar
Overlord

Are my favs. Also re zero is probably the best
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>Tomb pillager rotates out next expansion
>Reno rotates out next expansion
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>>161777830
I don't have Trueheart; think I'll need to miss on the damage healing shenanigans for some BRM cards.
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>>161778461
That's why we got Counterfeit Coin and the Highlander theme for the mage-priest-warlock guild.
>>
Who's the new pandaren furry bait?
>>
Wake me up when pirate warrior and jade druid ends
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>>161778279
I might even craft a second one honestly
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People complain about patches, but it's really inconsistent.
Over my past 6 games I haven't drawn a weapon before turn 5 in every one of them.
>>
>>161778461
good
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>>161778752
the mage and warlock card isn't worth the highlander status, priest one might be though
>>
Has anyone figured out how to mix Cthun cards into Jade Druid.

This deck makes me moist.
>>
>>161778931
2 expansions from now
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>>161778973
In that case, we'll be back to the pre-LoE days of seeing no Highlander decks and only ultra-consistent decks.
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>>161778948
There are 6 weapons in the deck, that just means you have drawn shittily. It's not inconsistent.
>>
Jade druid is a weak deck.
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>>161776416
It's not top end control
You can't outvalue jade decks but there may be no jade decks in a week or so
So you kinda wanna hurry to ramp up your shit versus those decks, or add an OTK

Argent horserider works like a spell and it's good even in the more controllish types
Argent squires are mostly for aggro
The most important thing is card draw : you can't buff shit if you don't draw enough
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Move

>>161779124
>>161779124
>>161779124
>>161779124
>>
>Nigger topdecks the one card that wins him the game
Still as frustrating as it's ever been
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>>161778461
wouldn't be surprised if Blizz puts certain cards in the classic set and took out some others next standard rotation

since if there was a time for them to do so, would be exactly another Standard beginning
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>>161758739
priest still isnt top deck though, its fine.
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>>161763176
just wait till the priest plays jaraxxus
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>"A demo"
What does she mean by this
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>>161773336

Mage can only contest so many threats and has only a few ways of drawing extra cards, and once you neutralize their handful of threats and they're in topdeck mode it becomes a matter of waiting for them to die.
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>>161779156
It's not.
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>>161762324
>deathwing
>boom bot
>a murloc
>annoy o bot
>van clef or yeah beat it guy
>laughing brode in the top right
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