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23 hours

>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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idiots
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LABRATS
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is Hegemony our guy? updating the our guys list, I need opinions
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man this game is bad lul
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if you think this game is still not p2w then you need to neck yourself cuck

>>161583139
hegemony is as far away from our guy as it gets
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>You will never have four breasts
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>>161583103
me farming the lab
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>still dont have a build because everything is shit and unfun or a fotm meme and life is still garbage

I think I'll just try out Battlerite

Fuck Cuck Wilson
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>>161583254
good blogpost
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>>161583139
Hege is kind of fine but he's not out guy.
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>>161582928
Holy Shit! this is Taeyeon no
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>>161583168
the game isn't pay to win
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>>161583168
There is no "winning" in this game
this is a single player game where you can grind infinitely
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>>161583139
I think he's better than the rest

He has a good grasp of the game, doesn't spew redditor memes and is generally likable. He's a great contrast in the podcasts to that insufferable piece of shit

The only problem with him is the innate autism all Asians have. Every podcast he advocates for more active skills and more buttons to press. He'd feel right at home playing starcraft: typewriter simulator

At the very worst he's not annoying, putting him above 99% of streamers
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>>161550697
>free
>>161556070
>free
>>161559292
>FREE
>>161559471
>FREE
>>161560993
>free
>>161561438
>free
>>161564483
>FREE
>>161569070
>free
>>161573408
>free
>>161579816
>free
>>161580403
>free
>>161581256
>FREE
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Leveling:Arc - Spell Echo / Increased Crit

Flame Totem - Faster Projectile / Faster Casting / Added Cold

Orb of Storms - Added Lightning / Increased Critical Damage Support or Controlled Destruction

Frost Trap (?) - Trap & Mine Support / Multiple Traps

Curses - Lightening Vuln

Discharge time:

Enduring Cry

Daresso's Defiance

Discharge - Increased AOE / Controlled Destruction / increased Crit + 2 other gems

BLood frenzy

Curses for discharge - Poachers Mark / Assassin Mark. Use aura gem.

ST: Stormcall or Arc? + vaal spark
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>>161583427
good analysis I agree
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>>161583391
it is anon
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>>161583427
>better than the rest
Meant to say better than most
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Breach league will be fun
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>>161583427
Agreed
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>>161583565
>>161583620
>>161583663
the dreams in which I'm dying
are the best I've ever had
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>>161582735
to continue, i'm not pretending to have the answers. chris has said himself that he wished he had taken notch's approach to monetizing poe which would have meant the game being p2p with the price increasing over time. chris wants paid leagues, which i think are a bad idea. chris wants to "stretch the limits of p2w" which again is a bad idea. GGG has depended almost entirely on their playerbase's generosity to sustain themselves and make money. chris is currently shitting on that generosity by demanding even more money with each passing league and expansion. perhaps chris bit off more than he can chew by taking on too many employees, too many projects; his shareholders and investors are demanding quarterly profit margins that he simply cannot meet without forcing p2w gimmicks down our throats. i'm not defending him, he's an idiot. this game has suffered greatly. it had so much potential but sadly it's being diluted into nothing more than a quarterly pay check. the game is stale, the playerbase is drying up, and GGG has no answer for it except "buy more tabs!." the fact that chris has the audacity to put "don't be a beast of burden" in the game chat speaks volumes to me of his borderline obsession with money; it's literally all he cares about. he's not thinking long term and it'll eventually be the death of this game
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>>161583867
im a virgin too lol
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Give me the essence stashtab memes so I can add them
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Self cast scorching ray or totem scorching ray?
pls help
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our guy PT is already at 5154 builds, how can one person be so based?
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>>161583867
notches game had far fucking greater appeal than POE though
that was their decision to hire all artists and focus on graphics when noone gives a shit bout gfx

Then again, notch is a fat kike who has done zero work on his game
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>>161583975
self cast

sr totem ai is awful
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>>161583975
SR isn't a great league starter I dont think, do flame blast until you have the links and gear for it /shrug

oh and selfcast manmode or you're a loser
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>>161583867
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>>161582735
>>161583867
based frogposter speaking the truth
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>>161584171
>samefagging
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>>161584035
>Autism
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anime posters get out
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Guys.
Is it posible for a Mirror to drop on Twiligth Strand?
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>>161584243
>>161584214
lmao fucking retards
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post kpop instead of anime. anime is for children
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I'm expecting to meet at least a dozen chars variations of the name "Ichigo_Montoya" this league.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/160HY37T3pACr0qKnnUeSR6vv1ylXUkW81qoBqNUJl44/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

hege's list of builds for 2.5 if you lack inspiration
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>>161584305
>Anime website
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>>161584368
I don't see any mirror arrow builds in there
smdh
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>>161584078
all you need is a +1 tabula for a FR33 6 link and you just got the best possible league starting build
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>>161584364
Mein neger
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>>161583565
>>161583620
>>161583663
>>161583864
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>>161584502
give me a quick tl;dr on the mirror arrow build
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checkmate atheists
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>>161584613
you have mirror arrow
and you have blink arrow
and you link both in a 5l, so its a bit of a meme build, gem inefficient
run auras
run MOM/EB

and you just spam your fucking clones every 3 seconds when they are off cd
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i hope the golem jewels aren't as rare and expensive as grand spectrums. it looks fun :/
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>>161584368
sauce?
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>>161584776
>not going Saboteur for the trap meme arrow build
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>>161584364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7f2M9rD4s4
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>>161584837
cluster traps are less damage now
pointless to use them
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>>161584749
poor wilson can't seem to keep his promises
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>>161584794
The secret is that you don't even need them. The +1 one is good though.
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>>161584078
fuck it, ill just do self cast flameblast cause im playing softcore who give a fuck
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>that one frogshitter going all in with his p2w shitposting before no lifing breach like everyone else
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>>161585092
it's sad
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all kpop girls are sluts
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>>161585092
that's catposter he's a retard ignore him
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>>161585175
not true
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>>161584317
only if you're currently streaming
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>>161585219
it's true
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>>161585147
>>161585181
>ggg cucks
lost your way to reddit?
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5fyp0z/ggg_please_do_not_give_players_more_stash_tabs/
this is your lair
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What is the best mouvement skill when you have 0 atk speed or cast speed from the tree? Lightning warp, flame dash, whirling blades, leap slam or shield charge? Of course, support gems for fast cast/atk added later.
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>>161585187
Yeah, so you either go all 4 or none of them. Minion Damage/Life jewels are probably gonna be just as expensive.
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I will finally get a mirror drop this league!
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is hannarashi our girl?
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>>161585284
no, i have it open in another tab
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>>161585284
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5fw0g2/ggg_it_is_time_to_add_few_more_default_stash_tabs/
You mean yours?
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>>161584613
>>161584776
alternatively you can roll a saboteur mirror arrow trapper, and have 12-24 clones active at once. You lose on some minion damage and duration though, by not going necromancer, also trap support dmg multiplier doesnt work on minions, but cluster traps/multiple traps WILL reduce minion damage. All in all both are samey, self cast is more flexible and mobile ( self casting blink arrow every 3s, dont even have to aim ), trapper is more meme retarded fun type ( army of clones ).

In the end mirror/blink clones are basically totems that scale from minion dmg and your bow+quiver.

Elemental is supposedly the way to go, but i got more dmg during calculations with combination of high phys + one of the elements bow.

Damn i think im gonna do a mirror arrow as my starter now.
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>>161585365
no that guy on the right is our guy
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>>161585365
That guy on the right is clearly our guy.
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>>161585304
Dash. It's the only one you'd use while racing, for good reason. Blink arrow is fine in a swap weapon too if you need to jump rivers, dash has limited range.
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>>161585446
>>161585464
Brown jacket v.2
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>>161585365
jesus christ
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>>161585438
You go lion eyes because otherwise your minions will miss like half their attacks in later game

You can also go like poison mirror arrow, dnno if its worse or better or w/e
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i hope none of you look like that in real life..
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>>161585147
taeyeon is a cutie :3
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>>161585637
ah yea shit i forgot about that...
no mirror arrow starter then
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I really hope you anime faggots neck yourselves soon, either way you will go on the day of the rope
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>>161585797
>day of the rope

virgin roleplayer fantasy
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>>161585721
it's what's inside that counts...
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>>161585797
>day of the rope
like jump rope?
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>>161585750
no its fine, you just gotta buy lioneyes glare, its pretty cheap, nothing else uses it.
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>>161585797
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i'm gonna play a 2h cyclone raider

r8
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>>161585997
5/7
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>>161585997
sounds fun
let them know the fury of a scorned woman
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>>161585997
>raider
0/10
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>>161585997
I'm gonna roll a dw cyclone raider.
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red pill me on raider.. don't want to fail vaaling several darkray vectors.. I'll feel like I'll end up the same as in prophecy where I failed vaaling 30 snakebites for vuln on hit
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>>161586227
+1 darkrays are a luxury. just farm up enough currency to buy them outright
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>>161585878
it's some old skinhead movie. the only people that use that term are /pol/fag kiddies that somehow escaped their containment board
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wish i was dead actually
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>>161586293
probably cheaper to buy/find and vaal them
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>>161586335
vg is a containment board
not pol
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>>161586440
retard
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So what's the recommended level for end game content/how many skill points should my build have?
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>>161585304
Lightning warp is best if you have the sockets
Shield charge is best if you can pay attention to when you get caught on shit
Then whirling blades

Flame dash having charges ruins it, blink arrow having a cooldown ruins it.
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>>161586227
Well frenzies are not like say grand spectrums, there's not a super high benefit in squeezing another on top of 8-9, just 4% more damage and all the related Raider bonuses, but you'd be fine with a non-vaaled pair of darkrays, especially now that labyrinth enchants are so useful so the opportunity cost of +1 frenzy over say, 16% increased attack speed on recent kill is questionable.
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>>161586335
/poeg/ is actually quite /pol/ my man
not sure how you've not noticed it
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>>161586440
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>>161586430
haha no

i bought these for 18ex back in invasion league. rare af 2bh
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>>161586335
/poeg/ is a /pol/ friendly environment
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first of all we don't care about politics here
only cute girls and anime
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>>161586293
>best face in the game
word
>>161586542
Ye..guess I'll see how the prices look like and decide
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>>161586605
>18ex vs buying them up
lol
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>/poeg/ will never be free of animalposters and ethnic redditors
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>>161586747
the price is likely to be inflated due to raider buffs and +1 charge/curse is very rare
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AHAHAHAH IM LAUGHING IM IN TEARS
WHAT HAS THIS RETARD WILSON DONE TO HIS FUCKING GAME?

Everyone told him "Normal diffculty is slow and boring" so what he did was gut mana leech so that now the early game is 10 times slower and more boring, what A FUCKING IDIOT.

mana leech has been divided by like 20, it stacks but reach the rate cap after like 3 stacks, and then mana pots were fucking nerfed to restore less mana per use, and then clarity was fucking nerfed too why not. So basically, even with leech and clarity you can't sustain attacks even while poting while before leech was enough. And they didn't even remove that fucking oom line so your retarded char is permanently stuck in a time loop saying 'I'm out of mana' 'I'm out of mana".

AHHHH WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS SO BAD SO SUCKY SO BORING SO AWKWARD SO MEDIOCRE GULP GULP GULP GULP IM OUT OF MANA GULP GULP OUT OF MANA IM NEVER GIVING YOU ANOTHER CENT YOU IDIOT YOU DESTROYED YOUR OWN GAME IM GONNA SIT BACK AND WATCH YOUR FACE WHEN YOU REALIZE EVERYONE IS PLAYING TOTEM THEN LEAVING THE GAME OUT OF MINDNUMBING BORINESS GULP GULP OUT OF MANA
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>>161586774
>ethnic redditors
classic retard tactic of reversing something into reddit
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>>161586774
we need a purity rebellion to purge all the undesirables
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fascists out
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>>161586774
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>>161586789
true
i did manage to find 4 in essence though
it will probably become like drillneck where 95% of the ones listed are bad corruptions
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>>161586605

>I paid 18 exalts for these garbage boots

Wow you sure showed us.
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>>161586605
>18ex for that

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
HA
HA
HA
HAHHAHAH
AHHAH
AHAHAHHAHAHAH
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>>161586227
wait so you never got your snakebites with vuln on hit?
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>>161587189
invasion hahahaha
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>>161586335
wtf i love /pol/ now
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>>161586605
>18 exalts
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>>161585365
The guy on the right probably has 2000 mirrors on standard.
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>>161586227
use voidwalkers
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>>161585997
post tree or get out
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>21hours50mn
>tfw you have to be strong
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/polg/
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>>161587580
why is she crying
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>>161583139
Hegemony is a nice guy but not very bright. He sticks to the same few builds regardless of their effectiveness because they're fun and staunchly demands they be buffed without acknowledging his hypocrisy about other builds (he claimed it was OK to have poison, ignite, and curse immune bosses, but chill and freeze immune bosses are not ok because some builds depend on chill and freeze). Not our guy.

ProjectPT is a huge autist who plays by a ruleset engineered so he won't have to deal with people. Likes memorizing every obscure vendor recipe and complains that the game is boring when played by his arbitrary ruleset. Has absolutely no filter when talking to people and left his girlfriend to play more video games. Absolutely our guy.
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>>161587662
she realized discord ruined poeg
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I will buy a supporter pack if there's no server issue at launch
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>>161587662
only 4 stash tabs
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Who /awoo/ here?
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>>161587219
nah there where no more snakebites so ended up buying like 6 fb with 6c and the third one got what I wanted..at that time fb with vuln on hit where like 4ex I think so ended up winning also it turns out they where better for what I wanted than snakebites
guess it'll be like >>161587085 said for vektors tho
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can i have a new invite to the discord

i kept clicking on things real fast last night and it kicked me out
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>>161587714
>ProjectPT is a huge autist who plays by a ruleset engineered so he won't have to deal with people. Likes memorizing every obscure vendor recipe and complains that the game is boring when played by his arbitrary ruleset. Has absolutely no filter when talking to people and left his girlfriend to play more video games. Absolutely our guy.
He's a cuck that invents drama in order to get twitch views, a fake persona carefully crafted to carve a niche because being anything but an autistic streamer one way or the other apparently doesn't garner a large enough fanbase. A two-faced retard, not our guy
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>>161587714
projectpt = smart man with solid points
hegemony = gook that thinks he is smart and have absolute trash opinions about the game
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>>161587769
poeg ruined poeg
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>>161587901
Only if you post the cat with eternal orbs
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>>161587662
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didn't know about Elreon jewellery when I leveled my first char in Essence.
So I basically need a lvl4 Elreon to be able to buy them?
That effectively makes Elreon jewelerry irrelevant for the first char in a League, right?
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Alkaizerx is our only guy
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>>161587975
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>>161588073
will he even play the new league
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>>161588073
he plays wow now..
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>>161587902
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why are you guys so hot on D3 players?
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>>161588204
Yeah, but he's not pushing ladder. 6 or so hours a day.
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>>161587662
I just found the source on youtube, the "sergeant" or whatever say that her voice was a problem, too aegyo or girly.
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>>161588237
post more PT
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>>161588237
go drink some bleach while you die in a fire sucking dick XD
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>>161588269
they come from a more mechanically demanding so they tend to thrive in poe
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>>161587902
I'm willing to believe this.

I remember when he started he was an absolute shitter and everyone on /poeg/ laughed at him and his retarded builds (such as lowlife without Shavs, and some literal 0 damage melee """tank""")

Maybe this is why he started playing SSF
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>>161588429
it 100% is
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>>161588396
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>>161587662
she really liked that dog
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>>161588479
well why didn't she fk the dog then xd
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>>161588429
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what are your goals for breach anons?

i want a headhunter again, an axe better than disfavour and an insane eq duration helm
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>>161588689
36/36 within a week then quit the league for IRL stuff
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>chaos damage breaches

PATH OF CI
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>>161588689
level 100 in hc solo

kill shaper

kill uber atziri
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>>161588689
do all the new content, kill shaper again and get 36 challenges
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>>161588689
100 Shaper Kills.
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>>161588689
farm hydra before week 1 for ez money, kill shaper later on
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>>161588689
live through monday
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Friendly, casual, unbiased reminder that your league starter should be able to farm Uber lab effortlessly if you want to make great currency
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Is king of the forest build still viable? Seems like it only got that minor posion duration multiplier nerf, that shouldn't impact the damage too much.
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>>161589105
meant chimera
>>161588782
gl with that
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>>161588689
appear on the front page of the ladder
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>>161589360
>being european
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>>161589360
Uber lab loot was a mistake.
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>>161589037
have you taken alook at the challenges list? 36/40 is going to take more than a week senpai
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>>161589360
I don't know if I want to play EQ for another league or go with SRS though
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>>161588689
Fully clear Breach content, 40/40 challenge, push my build at his best, kill shaper
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>>161589360
You could've gotten a new computer RMTing all the currencies you've got in a league.
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>>161589360
Every baby going BF will be able to do it easily this league, your plan is fucked.
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>Trying to make a block based build
>All the shield passives are far apart
Is it just not viable?
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>>161587902
>A two-faced retard
definitely our guy
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>>161588278
>want to be a sargeant one day
>cries because someone made fun of your voice
>women
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>>161589750
Block is no longer an efficient passive investment, unless you're Gladiator.
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>>161589563
can SRS do uber lab with all keys?
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>>161589917
this

Gladiator or die. Violent retaliation sucks tho, never got the bonus damage from blocking bosses.
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>>161589917
I'm going for Gladiator since the spell block thing seems really good but even then it seems like I can spend ninety-something points just getting all the shield shit, which leaves little room for anything else
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>>161589967
It depends on the day. Usually the new AI will fuck you over by killing a general or something though.
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>>161589967
SRS sounds like a terrible build for uber lab farming, with the skulls killing generals, essences, gargoyles and portals when you want them alive for the extra key
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>>161590092
fine then

try to get an Aegis Aurora, best shield ever if you want to be tanky.
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>>161589967
more often than not, no

>>161590124 is right. minion ai will fuck you over on all of those buffs. the damage is more than enough but getting all keys is inconsistent with how srs works.
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So there's pretty much no reason to play anything other than BF right?
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>>161590092
Look at this build, even if you don't want to follow it i think that could help you
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/868996
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Why does GGG try to trick players into playing cold elemental builds when cold damage has been garbage for a while now?
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my friend keeps sending me anime webms, how do I tell him that he is a degenerate weeb aberration but nicely
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i can't even farm merciless lab
how do you farm uber, just learn how to never get hit?
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>>161590484
tell him to grow up and move on to kpop
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>>161590456
Are there any usable uniques this league besides the community belt?
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>>161590456
Maybe with this item it won't be as shit...
Who am I kidding, everyone just converts cold to fire nowadays.
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>>161590631
there's 55 total

so maybe?
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>>161588689
36 challenges
shaper/uber kill
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>>161590665
Fire is literally the worst element.
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>>161590631
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Breach_league#Unique_items
The uniques we know so far
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>>161590752
first week of poe?
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EA.
Elementalist or Pathfinder?
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>>161590858
pathfinder if you're going to max out your gear, elementalist if you just wanna farm currency for another build
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>>161590752
+1 (You)
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>>161590456
F R E E
BLIND ON HIT
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>still haven't decided if i'm going with BF with my own twist, but still sharing all the retard priced gear with everyone or something less popular

How bad was it gearing up a BV CI Pathfinder last league?
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>>161590878
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAN-wksGOvhEtfIPr7qcI2CRWSJrgRZ1TUhzcjxq4kyj6mK0y0UVHwGYEs6IA8B9o8q9sC2HGrq4-Z5vkUVBH7w4UIF8_9kiMzz38xFhYYzwFn9_vfMT2cqmvpxzOK1ANzf5U9zLqGPjrFHEOPN-_20_gwyW8OlK8nxiR_EsUTfPdaGV2rM9-rKpZ8xo4kFUnL3IPlG9mVJErA3UWb-NqJKo26Twtg8y3PoNf_grYvTWS8kU64aZX_o9N49l8ggedrhpsWHdfBEbXHwIEB3GFeuZj_YPbVcY6WKyY8Ww22EkbKo3sVRekEzVresi_RlL8TNQH3I2D949GUfvNFh8Y

r9 my tree
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>>161590407
Interesting, thanks anon
I don't think I will be going that way but some of the stuff seems applicable
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>>161590752
shieeeet boii
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>>161590456
Hierophant, Rime Gaze, this thing and vortex traps, how does that sound?
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>>161590752
uhhhhhmmmmmmmmm....................
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>>161591057
seems good to me, i would try to find enough poitns to pick up alchemist though.

i get it on every build but might not be worth with rumi's nerf
>>
Ok someone is going to have to tell me what fire has going for it. Lightning does the more damage thing better and faster unless you're going for meme ignite builds. Cold helps your survivability a bit and it triggers the best Herald. Fire just does some more damage eventually but most of it is overkill.

If you're converting the fire to chaos then it doesn't count.
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>>161591550
ignite double dipping
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>5l SRS mana cost: 47
>6l SRS mana cost: 85

my build isn't near dynamo or righteous decree either, fmltbhfams
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>>161589410
>Thrown out
Sounds legit
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>>161591550
based first week playing poe expert
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>>161590923
easy as fuck since everyone was crafting gear for it and selling any drops that remotely fit.
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I really want to put my glans inside Bex if you know what I'm getting at here
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>>161591550
literally kys you're self and shut the fuck up lol
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>>161590630
>kpop: fake personality, fake facial structure, fake culture
>anime: all fake too
They're the same.
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>>161591596
>actually using Multistrike as a support for SRS
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>>161591550
You can almost kill a guardian with a single ignite from flameblast.
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>>161591596
Multistrike shouldn't be your 6th link.
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>>161586890
best pasta and I'm not saying that because it's mine or anything.
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>>161591883
NOT true
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>>161590356
yes there is.
Binos/crit daggers/swords will be insanely expensive, cause everyone and their mother wants to play BF.
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>>161591550
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>>161591908
it's my 6th link. i'll probably never get a 6l crude bow
>>161591930
there's literally no better option. minion speed or faster attacks is all that's left
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>>161591959
>Sees person
>From top to bottom
>Hair is immediately fake color
How is this person real?
>>
Cruel Bandits for Blade Flurry? Oak or Kraityn?
>>
fixed pricing is literally the only solution to PoE with this agressive d2jsp market
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>>161591337
Here is mine (the guy who first asked)

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAAHcWhrDM4LHKPpN4_JF_gr-jzrhplc1kti9g9tVxjpYWK_TbwUtdO167y5T6-4nLxo4kFUB533SVK4OXEV-avo2xdgkmK1lTUd-vTZfP_AfBLOiAAQHHwK-p4TZQzFWSDrY1AfcjfxMRlJrehekyL8TNew4GJG8nxRN_EtmVKcI37826O98n988BTpS2sGNfupit7Z1yw48tfKCm5o7IvR344V7UlOX9JeVUEcUIO8OTLP56ODDJbzbT3gNwBpvO9Sv34pBh7c-aPKpbriTHNyPGjLRwQRFR20ZeWg9X8Bm

It is for SC
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>>161592083
attack speed OBVIOUSLY..ffs..
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>>161592083
I'm not an expert at all but if it's a channeling skill attack speed is better no ?
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>>161592036
There's a blue gem that is much better and has the added benefit of being easily swapped with Echo when you just need cast speed over single target damage. I'll let you figure it out.
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>>161591959
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Need help with my op build. my build op but unbalanced game seem to not agree.

op Skills links I use: double strike linked with multistrike, double strike, multi strike, double strike and finally linked again with multi strike (2*3*2*3*2*3=217 attacks per hit)

support skills: cast when damage taken-immortal cries-viper strike-storm call

i hit 217 hit per attack and still no use... last night i pvp vaal oversees on normal level and i get 1 shotted no fair

would like help on this op build or maybe nerf?
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>>161591959
it's her job to be the product you now worship
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>>161592427
>unironically using faster casting with SRS

you don't need to. you can reach 20 SRS easily with just flesh offering + haste + vaal haste
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>>161592083
Jesus CHRIST you're fucking STUPID YOU RETARD WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK????
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>>161592563
... What? Faster Casting doesn't serve a different purpose as a swap-in for Echo, the 10% less damage penalty of the latter doesn't apply to minions so FC would just be a strictly inferior support.
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>>161592694
I don't think I just get all my life choices from strangers on the internet
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>>161592736
>10% less damage penalty of the latter doesn't apply to minions
it does
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i thought of a gamebreaking build poeg

>SRS bloodlust with tora bow
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>>161592736
List the tags SRS has.
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>>161592852
amazing anon. wow.
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>>161592852
>tora bow LA to ee and bleed and curse

That's kinda cool.
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>>161592948
thanks x

you could run a 4l coh setup for bleed + double curse on bosses
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>>161593009
just legendary.
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>>161591925
>>161591579
So meme ignite builds then.
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>>161593090
>meme

what's your favorite build anon
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>>161593140
Glacial Hammer
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>>161593140
2h spectral throw from when wrecking ball was in the ranger start.
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>>161588689
get a HH and/or Skyforths
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>>161588689
37/40 pure hc before xmas
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>>161584368
>Only one Fireball build
>Traps

Really?
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>>161584806
are you gay?
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>>161587769
I guess you can say discord causes discord
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>>161593702
nice
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>>161588689
24/40 for the portal effect is good enough for me honestly.
Never liked wings so I'm kind of happy they're last.
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>>161592805
>>161592916
I was about to type a smartass paragraph reply but it seems after some googling that you appear to be right, which doesn't make much sense to me since SRS should be their own entities not affected by Echo but whatever. I stand corrected.
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>>161593702
kys
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>>161593949
I'm willing to bet you can drop spell echo for FC now that they lowered the numbers to 20
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I see a lot of talk about how overpriced all the BF build items will be. ZiggyD and Ziz also just mentioned on their stream that BF probably should be avoided as a league starter because of all the competition over gear.
Ofc shit will be expensive, everyone with half a brain should understand that.
But HOW bad will it really be? Will Binos run for multiple Exs, for example? At the end of Essence it was about 30-50c if I remember correctly.
Breach will be my second league, I wasnt particularly rich, all in all my networth probably was around 15 Ex. I'm sure I'll do better in Breach, but should I maybe consider not going BF first?
If yes, I'd probably go ED Cont.
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>>161593949
less or more damage does effect minions..
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>>161594179
there's a prophecy for binos, also strange barrels so i dont see it being more than 2ex after the first week of the league
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>>161594179
>BF probably should be avoided as a league starter because of all the competition over gear.
only if you're a shitter
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>>161594175
But then you might run into mana issues.
>>161594195
Do spell damage nodes effect them, or just multipliers on gems?
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>>161594179
Anything that has such a moderate supply and high demand will be severely overpriced, yeah. Just look at what happened to something like Chayula/Energy from Within pre and post-2.4 when they jumped from being 1c to 30-50c items
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>>161591943
Make more
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u wake up and see this smoking hot babe grind ur dick what do u do
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>>161594401
plop it in
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>>161594179
It's not that BF should be avoided, it's daggers. The skill is super busted so you can use swords fine even if they're not best in slot. Scaeva is a cheapentry level 1hander and swords in general are easier to roll.
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>>161594401
Wake up a second time
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>>161594401
Kill her dad
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>>161593653
but this is a girl
right?
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>>161594401
Shape her map device with my dick ;)
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>>161594401
Tell her it's just morning wood, not normal wood. So we have to give me a moment to get into it.
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You guys think Hierophant can be used to amke a decent discharge build?
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>>161594573
t.impotent cuck
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>>161594556
yes it's a girl
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>>161594573
??
wtf is that supposed to mean
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>>161594714
so whats the sauce?
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>>161594628
>doesn't know how weird it feels having sex with morning wood straight away

Seriously guys, it's not a normal boner until you get turned on more.
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>>161594556
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>>161594351
yea, but 30-50c isn't that bad at all.
I'd call everything above 3 Ex a big investment.
Theres also this >>161594264 to consider, though I dont know how solid this estimate is.
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>>161594757
her name is rose

it's a "really funny" meme to say she's a guy/trap on 4chan
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>>161594308
Just gems, and only if applicable.

For example, Rapid Decay does not make SRS deal more damage because they don't deal degeneration damage, they deal attack damage.

Unless you have Beacon of Corruption, then Rapid Decay will make the chaos cloud left behind when they die/disappear deal more damage.
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>>161594401
Blade Flurry
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you're daily reminder getting paid & laid > playing vidya
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>>161595091
why not all three
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>>161595164
cause you can't have your cake and eat it too
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>>161594886
>this thing is a girl
lmao
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>>161595091
I play so I can pay to get laid
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-nDZsaZWGs
Seriously, is there anything that man can't do?
>>
are you all americans?
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>>161595091
How long has it been since Kripp was entertaining? I'm pretty sure it was around the time Mists of Pandaria launched.
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>>161595578
European here
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>>161595358
not be so tsundere
>>
Anyone with AHK experience?

say i got my autopoting prototype working fine using inline if statements.

example:

IfNotEqual, colorlife, %colorlife_change%, Send {1}

works fine

but if i try to convert it to an expression IF like:

If (colormana != %colormana_change%){
Send {5}
}

it breaks.

Any idea why?
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>>161595738
I think AHK uses <> as !=
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>>161594519
would I still run it on an Assassin with swords/sword+shield/sword+deaths hand?
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>>161595578
Asian here
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>>161595803

takes both forms, and ive tried it with <> too
>>
Are flameblast totems cancer to play

They look busted as fuk compared to the amount of hype they are getting buy the delay worries me
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>>161590456
I don't understand why they're introducing all these cool chill/ignite mechanics lately when they don't matter against trash packs and most dangerous bosses are immune to said effects.
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>>161595164
>hearthstone is vidyda
dahahaaa..it's a job. and we're done here.
>>
>>161595921
Extremely reliant on cast speed to be smooth. People tend to forget spell totem has a 30% LESS cast speed penalty. I wouldn't bother with totems unless significant amount of cast speed. Self-cast is fine, just reroll reflect maps, not a big deal.
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>>161595873
Not sure then, I don't think the I in if should be capitalized either but I doubt that's the issue.
Might also have to put "colormana" in quotes in the second one? Here's a working example I have from a script from another game:

action := "Click"

^Numpad0::action := ""
^Numpad1::action := 1
^Numpad2::action := 2
^Numpad3::action := 3
^Numpad4::action := 4
^Numpad5::action := "Click"

repeat(){
global action
if (action <> "") {
while getkeystate("XButton1", "p") {
Send {Blind}{%action% down}
sleep 50
Send {Blind}{%action% up}
sleep 50
}
}
}
*XButton1::repeat()
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>>161595952

to create the idea of apparent deept in mechanics for new players, that in practice turn to be irrelevant or crippled

its a noobtrap
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>>161596205
>Might also have to put "colormana" in quotes in the second one

ive narrowed it down to the expression itself being evaluated wrong. im gonna try various ways to do it
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>>161595358
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>>161595952
Chill on being hit + blind vs chilled enemies is pretty strong, like a perma CWDT setup with no cooldown, and you don't need to invest into cold damage in the first place

Pretty strong with any build using hatred desu, doesn't work vs Guardians but not everything is meant to
>>
>>161595578
im a portuguese fin
>>
Testing out Double Strike + Melee Splash, it's actually better DPS than Cleave. The targetting and range are just absolute garbage, though that should be fixed now. I think I'll try leveling with a 2H for ranger, then switch to a 1H once I get enough stuff.
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>>161596905
>it's actually better DPS than Cleave
oh so it's better than shit that gets on your shoes that's so gross you just throw the shoes out? speculate on.
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>>161597016
Melee ranger has shit leveling options. You have to pick the shiniest piece of shit in the garbage bin until act 3 when you get balanced flurry.
>>
God damn its a struggle to get to 110 points for this golem build

I had to just start clicking random nodes to get there. Guess it will be fun to walk around on a 400% es build.
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>>161597189
use spells like a normal person
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they actually exist poeg

perhaps a bloodlust SRS bow build isn't impossible after all
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>>161597398
That's right I forgot about all the spells Rangers get and can buy before Act 3 that scale with ranger melee nodes. Silly me.
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>>161597459
except there would be no way to reliably get +2 on that bow, let alone +3 fire and you need to 6L on top

what the hell are you doing?
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>>161597813
worth a try

imagine if you got +3 fire gems on that and then 6l'd it
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>>161597738
Yeah because you need to scale your skills real hard to get to halfway through act 3.
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>>161595921
Totem builds will never have super fast clear, but they're reliable, safe, and can do pretty much all content. It's a tradeoff you make.
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>>161597738
retard
>>
honestly like
I don't think i'm gonna play this game
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>>161597738
because you cant take any other class past hillock to get gems. think outside your wet paper bag.
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>>161597895
gl coloring it
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>>161597983
you shouldnt.
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>>161597189
enjoy your 45 minute act 1
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>>161597895
>imagine if you got +3 fire gems on that
I can imagine it but it's still literally impossible to do ingame.
>>
>poe.trade isnt updated yet
>cant set up 20 000 item alerts for tomorrow

why
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Why isn't EE taken in Wild Strike builds?
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>>161597459
You can already use Bloodlust by grabbing one of the fatties from act 4 as a spectre.
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>>161598396
Because you regardless of which effect you get you always deal every type of elemental damage thanks to auras, heralds and gear.
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>>161598442
i tried that and it's a pain in the ass
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>>161598396
probably because you scale it with ele auras so you're never really cycling between pure ele damage of one type
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>>161598442
Or slapping a bleed on hit weapon onto an Animate Guardian.
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>>161598396
It means you have to get rid of every scrap of stray elemental damage on all your gear and it limits your aura choices.
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>>161598330
Got a 14 minute Merveil on a fresh character no stash. I gotta make sure my name is lights.

>>161598172
Hillock gems are shit without tree scaling or really fucking good wands. I could go projectile damage that means I have to respec once I get halfway through Act 3 when I start to scale just as good/better than spells and then I have to buy even more regrets to respec into CI.
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>>161598618
>>161598572
>>161598508

Thanks ya'll
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>>161598572
You can basically only scale it with phys, attack speed, weapon ele and crit.

The secondary effects don't pick up your ele contributions to the initial hit. The damage is based off your physical.
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>>161598752
Just use cleave holy shit.
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>>161598790
>The secondary effects don't pick up your ele contributions to the initial hit. The damage is based off your physical.
If you use Anger, Herald of Ice and a ring that adds 1-20 lightning damage to attacks all 3 will affect the initial hit of Wildstrike as well as any of the 3 secondary effects.
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Who /ready/ here?

Did my nails
Cut my hair
Shaved my legs, arms and pits
Took my pills
Cleaned the buttplug
Found the key for the chastity belt
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>>161582972
is this breach stuff like seasons in diablo?
do i have to start from level 1 again?
I'm new and only in act 3
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>>161597895
>getting tora prefix and essence only mod on the same item
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>Haven't used a claw in over 2 years
>Find out implicit is only local now so DW sucks
So they never want people to use claws huh.
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>>161599602
yes
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>>161599783
fugg
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>>161599602
Yes.

Each league has a unique mechanic, and accompanies a full economy and character restart. Your current character won't vanish, but right now you're playing on Standard league, which is a wretched hive of jews and legacy benefits, and generally not worth bothering with.
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>>161599830
If you're only in act 3 normal it's not like you've done much that needs redoing
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>>161599705
Dual Scourge Blade Flurry is toppest build
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>>161599178
gf (male) here by my side ready to co-op our way through breach league

t. gf (male)
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>>161599998
So, it's a lesbian relationship between two men. Good luck to you two.
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>>161600145
u r
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Ok /poeg/ some dude told me to come back until the day before breach on whast good to start with and whats going to be op.
I've narrowed my choices down to 4 builds and I would like some assistance from a more experienced player in whast probably going to be better to start with.
Fireball, Flameblast totems, blade flurry, ED
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>>161600145
me
>>161599998
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>>161599936
2 scourges stack the minion damage affecting you? Is GGG retarded? Otherwise I don't see the point in 2 scourges vs a better claw.
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I ran a bunch of Beyond maps last night and had bosses spawning left right and center.
Now today having won 2ex in a quiz and getting the Voidheart legacy I can't make a single fucking Bameth spawn and I want to die
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>>161600225
Meant a 2nd scourge vs a better claw in another hand. An extra 70% double dipping minion damage is nice but Scourge isn't that great of a base claw.
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>>161600225
No, you get 70% increased global damage per claw on hit, which translates to 140% damage that double dips poison.

>>161600185
Can't go wrong with Flameblast Totems senpai
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>>161600362
I mean, it's a 200 dps with an effective 70% increased damage modifier. It's a damn good weapon and you're not likely to find anything better for a physical claw build for a while.

Also spectral wolves I guess kek
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udan3dllTyk
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>>161600456
r8 my starter flameblast totems:

poeurl.com/S4R
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>>161600872
>Inquisitor

That's a rookie mistake right there, and you hate to see it.
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>>161599998
When is your item gonna get buffed?
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>>161600362
>>161600693
I figured Scourge would be more expensive and rarer than a better dps phys claw considering how in demand it's going to be and it enables it in the first place (Necromancer Scourge was kinda fun except how shitty it is to cast offerings/wait for CWDT offerings to trigger).
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>>161588689
get dem edgy wings
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>>161601008
>wasting resources to penetrate resistances

That's a rookie mistake right there, and you hate to see it.
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>>161600872
The fuck is that? You know that Inquisitor is pointless unless you have 95% crit. You have around 30% even with power charges and crit support.
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Time to play Battlerite lads

Suck my asshair chris wilson
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>>161600872
Shit

If you don't know what you're doing, just go Chieftain.
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>>161600872
Here anon, take this non shit version of what you plan on playing.

poeurl.com/S4Z
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>>161601352
I wonder how long will it take to /poeg/ realize Inquisitor is a noobtrap. I'm guessing people think monsters have 200% elemental resistance or something.
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>>161601352
You have to remember that shitty probably can't play CI. Though he is probably a shitcrow based on the life in his build.
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Dual Dreamfeather, Snakebite, QotF SANIC Raider?

http://poeurl.com/S42

182% life is pretty low but I can't get more without serious stretching
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>>161601562
40% ele pen on a 40% resist mob is 66% more damage fampai
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>>161601119
You go Grandpa is you are multi-elemental so that you don't have to invest into multiple penetrations. On top of that, you need to go crit. Looking at your tree, you only got 2 charges and one crit wheel. With a mechanically slower skill like flameblast, you're going to be hurting for crit gear and depending on a diamond flask. That's going to be a slow and painful way to start the league, especially when you're going to be competing with Meme Furries who need crit on gear.

You go elementalist for easy prolif and conflux, as well as getting easy penetration when you cast OOS. With the right investment (gem, EE, some nodes, etc.), you can get your fire pen below 0 with less investment and can also pick up Ele Overload.
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>>161601660
Woah, no kidding. That's a whole ascendancy tree dedicated to 3% more than a single support gem.
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>>161601562
Well this lets you ignore a gem and a curse, letting you pick up more damage.

Dont pretend like you need to go fucking Chieftain to survive in HC. A 300% ES totem build is fine for doing most content and Inquis provides more damage than any other ascendancy.
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>>161601951
You go elementalist.
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>>161601865
It's almost as if the tree does more than just that one thing as well.

If you are the expert, why does every other cunt in the world say inquis?
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>>161601772
Go totem elementalist. Much smoother playstyle. Plus you can use LW to move around to trigger the penetration while the totems are doing their thing.
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>>161601986
>>161601772

Fuck your prolif burn bullshit
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>>161601865
that you can use one additional damage gem and that the ascendancy has another 16% plus the crazy attack speed totally has no impact

just go play elementalist the prolif is really good

make sure to pack 2 golembros
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>>161602106
>wants to play FB
>hates prolif
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>>161601998
Because someone did it first and most people followed without thinking.

https://youtu.be/JkxaiPZWRww?t=396
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>>161602210
FB totem is probably the only FB build that doesn't really need prolif since the totem baits everything into them and then explodes. Can't stand it though because it's slower than storm call to damage.
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>Primordial Eminence
>4 of these and the Chaos Golem 100% Effect Enchant provide 220% Increased Golem Effect
>On a level 21 Golem with +1 Gems from any source provides base 5% Phys Reduction
>That's 16% Phys Resist
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>>161602646
not worth

4 jewel slots is a huge investment
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>>161596205
>Viewing people try to code
I laugh every time.
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>>161600731
This has turned into a roast. KEK
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>>161602646
Or you could get 10 end charges for 40% LUL
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>>161602749
Eh, probably. Each one is 1.5% Phys Reduction tho.
And also, 3 of them+Anima Stone = 90% to all Golem Effects and you can have 3 Golems out with no other investment.
Running 1 Clayshaper and Elementalist means you could have 1 of every Golem out just for the lols. And buffs.
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>>161602813
Or both.
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>>161602813
Why not both?
>56% Phys Reduction w/o Flask, 81% with
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>>161600731
*claps*
YOO
ESS
AYY
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why is that retard having a rally after he won

???
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>>161603265
Victory lap, now back to plebbit shitcrow
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hahahah they don't know hillary LOST
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>>161601618
plz respond
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>>161603265
he's going to be doing rallies the whole 8 years m8
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>>161601618
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAABeAhEDJwOHBS0FtQguC8EMcwzyDY3yRREvFr8XJhmOGbQbrf4KqW4j9ti9JJ0mlTWSLlMwcTB8N9Q6Qjy-Ps9B0EMxRNJHfkp9S3hM_02STipRR1VLV5daGluvX3BgQWHiYlpirGNwZU1noGqMbIx343Ttdf1vO3qEeu99dYNthG-18oTZh3aK8I19jb-PYJVmAdymV5uNeA2dqqLZo4qj56XLsNixs03jtMW1SL02vea-p8LswzPAGsSCyBTKkP6P0K3Tb9N-1CPUQtRS1ljY1drB3aji1eOfOuHpRutj7T_tQe2D7g71b_zF_ro2PQ==
30% more life, don't take VP as life, huge waste of points
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>>161589817
It's a TV show where celebs go on a bootcamp. She's an idol.
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>>161595358
listening to him makes me think he is the best player in the world, then I try one of his builds and die of boredom.
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>>161603849
>listening to him makes me think he is the best player in the world

sweet summer child...
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>/poeg/
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>>161604742
i wish i could live like this
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>>161604742
I see some good taste.
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>>161601119
You know that pretty much every mob in the game has like 30% or something resistance, right? Average damage penetration gem ends up being a straight More multiplier. It also completely precludes you from using resistance reducing curses, EE, and other sources of penetration which would take a monster into the negatives. All of these act as effective more damage multipliers, so you're actually really hurting your options for potential damage.

Going inquisitor for the resistance penetration is retard bait.
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Complete newfag here, I need some help with my Infernal Blow Slayer

I will use Herald of Fire and Abyssal Cry as well, and leap slam for mobility. I tried to keep the point amount low since I heard its best to have your build be fully "realized" quickly. This is about the best I could come up with.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQBAAHnBS0JuwxwFCAUTRXsGJEaPiFgIq8uUzWSNug4UzrhPfxAoESeR35J1UrITeNQR1HaU7tYY1ivXhNfP2FSZU1uqm87dO1253gNeHp5aHrvhNmE74Zgh2qK8IzPlSSlNaZXqSepbqmUtfK5HbyfvTa-p7_VwBrBBMSCypDTb9i92sHkUelG7w7vTvIv8kXzb_ZI_Ev-Cv6P
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>>161604742
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>>161602054
Orb of Storms does that anyway, while also triggering EE.
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newbie here, is it better for me to run through an area and focus on elemntal drops/boxes and ignore the rest of the shit? or should I focus on clearing areas entirely
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>>161603686
Can you elaborate on why?
I thought VP was pretty good if you could do enough damage to pass the leech per second cap
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>>161605093
> elemntal drops

What?
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>>161605224
I think he means rare mobs
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>>161605093
Unless you're doing maps, your goal is to get to the end as fast as possible.
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>>161605093
When you're progressing through the story etc you can just run through unless you feel like you're underlevelled. When you're levelling you can kind of just kill dense packs and move on, then start a new instance and do it again. When you're in maps you want to kill all the mobs that aren't impossible to find to maximise your chance to get more maps.
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>>161604936
Wasted a point along the bottom travel path, take the two stat nodes on the track above instead.

Cloth and chain is mediocre.

Otherwise, pretty good understanding of tree building for a noob
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>>161605373
Yeah I heard its best to move along to large life clusters and pick up damage if it is immediately nearby, so that was my general game plan. I also heard life is basically unusable without the large life wheel so I beelined for that as well. Should I go for damage nodes early on in the game or get to life as fast as possible, in terms of when I am spending my points?
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>>161582972
Any decent shots of Atziri's juggs?
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where is the new melee targeting showcased?
wtf chris?
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https://twitter.com/hrishi2908
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>>161605734
right here *puts u to sleep for 18 hours*
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I don't think melee is good still. They've only changed namelocking to something else - which we haven't seen or tried yet and increased melee range, okay quality of life stuff. But most melee builds are life and life is so bad right even with mitigation from Fortify+Endurance charges or something else because elemental resistances and even chaos damage completely ruin you. All while ES can just facetank most of the damage.

Then there's the actual melee damage and clear speed problem, melee will clear so much slower than something like LA while their damage isn't even so much worth the loss of clear speed. Like why couldn't they have buffed melee damage? Stuff like Tornado Shot completely blows melee damage out of the water because of "shotgun" and the only way to really make melee stronger is add poison for that pseudo-more modifier.

Like what made melee exceptionally weak last League - besides PV BV facetanking everything which got nerfed. Compared to spell builds which either Crit for massive damage, Ignite for massive damage or minion spam like SRS.

CI > Life
Range > Melee
Damage? Spells crit better, most melee take RT, another way to scale damage is lost. Mainly because spells don't miss so you don't have to scale accuracy AND crit as a stat.

Then add in life flasks which are extremely weak and slow. Melee has gotten pretty much nothing unless you're a Cyclone autist. I mean even multi-strike still locks you in for a second because it's 3 hits instead of 2 for some reason while Spell Echo is 2 casts.
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>>161605675
There's titjob art out there somewhere
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Maybe I should go block glad.
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>>161605837
2.5 melee changes are the start of the changes
3.0 is when the rework comes
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>>161605532
You don't really need life for normal difficulty, at least until the second half of A4. Just grab a bunch of immediate damage to speed up your playthrough and then build out life in cruel.
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>Critical Strike Chance is increased by Uncapped Lightning Resistance
What does this mean?

IF I have 70 lightning res how much increased crit chance will I get?
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>>161605883
??? lioneye's remorse is better
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>>161605883
Has some autist made a dual wield shield thread on reddit yet?
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>>161605928
retard
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>>161605928
70%
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>>161605883
>Reckoning

Who even uses that
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>>161606017
no one but you get it for FREE with this shield!
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Ez crit multi for high block builds. Shitcrows will be all over this.

>>161605975
It has bottom end Lioneye's Remorse but life on block and 1500 armor on block. It's way better than Lioneye's Remorse.
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>>161606075
if the life and armor are bottom roll then sure
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>>161605883
Nice skin transfer though.
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>>161599178
cleaned up my room
masturbated
showered
shaved my head
bought canned food
bought dried fruits
bought bottled water
meditated
masturbated
showered
prepared my comfy pants
and here i am
ready to poopsock
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>>161605883
A shield that deals you on block.
Couldn't think of a more boring design if I tried..
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>>161605317
>>161605343
ty
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>>161605910
so another 3 months of CI
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>>161606075
No ES though

It's mediocre, but 'Muh deeps' means people will use it anyway and die because they're missing like 2k ES.
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>>161605883
>it's a life and block themed shield
What did GGG mean by this?
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>still no unique/keystone which converts Inc Crit Chance into Crit Multi
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>>161605928
They word that stat really poorly. It essentially means your total resists including the -60% from merc. So if you have 100% total resist (25% over cap) you get 100% increased crit.
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>>161606220
Lioneye's Remorse's bottom roll 80 life 1200 armor which is basically this shield. Max roll LR is 100 life 1400 armor. If you block you get 1500 armor that'll scale with your passives and you get 250HP on block (basically shittier AA but it goes directly to life). Well more than makes up for 20 life and 200 armor unless you really think that's going to be the difference from getting oneshot before you block.
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>>161606281
>so another 2 years of CI
Fixed that for you. Next patch is 2.6
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>>161606075
Wouldn't even use that if it dropped for me at level 28 when I was making a crit spellcaster.
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>>161606501
i was thinking LR had 32% block but they nerfed it
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>>161599998
>Fires 1 projectile
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>>161605928
basically it adds crit chance based on total lightning res

lightning coil spell crit would be dank with it
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>>161606651
You are incorrect.
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>>161605883
Bone Offering: 600 life on block
The Surrender: 250 life on block
The Anvil: 50 life on block

600+250+50 = 900*0.78 = 700 life average on being hit

Max Block Necro new meta??????
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>>161605883
Seems like a legit option to choose over Aegis Aurora with the benefit of not having to have any ES.
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>>161606802
>don't block
>get one-shot

wow nice block nerd
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At least all my shit corruptions will finally have a market.
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>>161606926
>a whole 100 ES/sec
woo?
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What do you think is the best way to proc these lightning strikes?
Was thinking ball lightning but maybe cyclone would be better
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>>161606707
Wouldn't lightning coil and the extra needed lightning res just cancel eachother out?
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>>161606926
>35 mana per second

lvl20 clarity only regenerates 17 mana per second lmoa
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>>161606802
I can imagine this awful tree now.
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>>161606926
LeMathilFace.jpg
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>>161606976
I could see an SRS character making use of the mana regen though.
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>>161606982
>but maybe cyclone would be better
Oh fuck yes I can finally make a proper thunder god build without a Mjölner because it's so ass to build around.
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>>161606976
It's 100 mana per second if you're EB.
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So guys

Blade Flurry Crit Swords Raider

OR

Blade Flurry Dreamfeather Raider?

OR some sort of bow based Raider?
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>>161606707
You are literally retarded jesus christ

The negative resistance from lightning coil and merciless both count towards the converted crit chance. The amulet increases your critical strike chance by EXACTLY what it says on your defenses page. No more, no less, there is nothing complex about this. If you are in your hideout and your resistance is 170, you get 170% increased critical chance. If you then enter merc dried lake and have a -60 modifier leaving you with 110 resistance, you get 110% increased critical chance.
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>>161606802
Seems okay. It's basically just a less efficient aegis though.
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>>161607305
>Blade Flurry Crit Swords Raider
What the hell are you thinking mate?
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>>161605883
Level 30 reckoning could do some serious damage and apply curses easily for a gladiator. CoH - Enfeeble - Inc AoE. Looks really good, t1 unique imo.
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>>161606982
Things that proc like that generally have (unlisted) internal cooldowns. Take Essence of Hysteria's "10% chance to Cast Level 20 Fire Burst on Hit" for example, iirc it has an internal 500ms cd. If you want to build for this, you might want to wait until you or someone else can actually test how it works and if it deals enough damage to be worthwhile.
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>>161607323
That sounds pretty dope actually. It would be fairly easy to gear so that each defensive piece has lightning res + 1 other res and cap that way. Would give you a shit ton of extra free crit that you wouldn't normally get from those pieces.
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>>161607404
Reckoning continues to suck horribly because it has a cooldown though.
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>>161607404
reckoning is like 50% of your dmg with a facebreaker build
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>>161584749
TOP KEK, maybe if those deluded kiwis didn't ask 50 trumps for a fucking aesthetic armour it wouldn't be the case.
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>>161607481
I think the main idea is to pair these items with Breach Rings with high resistances so you get a moderate power boost when you enter a breach.
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>>161607376
Scaeva + stat stick + onslaught + frenzies = gotta go fast
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>>161607305
It's inferior to daggers, in every single way
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>>161607453
It better fucking not have a cooldown
Nothing about the text implies that it has a cd
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>>161607481
Well, yeah, it basically just opens up some more itemisation options which is never really a bad thing because it can only increase build flexibility.
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>>161607604
You should be warned, Mathil was talking about making a BF Scaeva raider as his initial build yesterday on stream. That's probably where you got the idea from, but if you came up with it on your own you need to know it just got a shit tone more expensive.
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Gonna build Thundergod.Inquisitor
Orb lightning for Power charge generation
Arc for groups
Vaal Storm call
Herald and the new amulet for more lightning.

Just need to get some good life leech going and should be fine.
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>>161607725
You can be 100% sure it has at least a 250ms CD.
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>>161607105
That's the weapon slot would be a very expensive corruption.
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>>161607762
Well fuck. I don't really follow the streamers.

I thought Swords would've been the cheaper option since Bino's and daggers in general are going to shoot up in price.
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>>161607807
message one of them on twitter or reddit and find out
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>>161607725
>Nothing about the text implies that it has a cd
No internal proc cooldown is explicitly shown by ingame text. If it doesn't have a cooldown it will get one when people start destrying GGGs servers with it. Don't get too attached to this item yet. Its upgrade hasn't been spoiled yet either.
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>>161607776
>Inquisitor

Just fuck my build up senpai
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>>161607776
I did that last League.
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>>161607967
I don't particularly care about it.
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>>161608119
I do. Find out for me, m8
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>>161607725
What do you care about an effect you don't know the damage of? You're literally banking on something blindly just because it sounds cool, rather than on raw numbers
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>>161608159
No problem mate, I'll let you know.
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>>161608062
you got troubles, son?
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Are US-based IPs segregated into their own realm or is GGG going to force us to play this game with a bunch of racist nazis?
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Hierophant for scorching ray totems or chieftain? or ele?
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>>161608270
>racist nazis
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>>161608178
>What do you care about an effect you don't know the damage of?
I assumed it'd be similar to HoT's lightning strikes

Even if it's not that high, proccing it 30 times a second should still make it preeeeeeeeetty good
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>dremfeather's phys mod is global and not local
I have a near perf dreamfeather and 40k evasion, yet I still do less dps than a 260 dps sword which costs like 1c. What is the point of this item?
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>>161608220
Inquisitor is a meme option 90% of the time

Stop building them
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>>161605837
> cyclone autist

Still remember everyone playing that skill in 2.0, either that or flame totems.
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>>161608374
Not for your framerate
Heyooo
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>>161608450
>Only 40k evasion

Top kek
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>>161608570
Who cares if the screen freezes for a second, everything will be dead
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>>161607762
>>161607959
Scaeva was a cheap good option for reave. But since many people are going to go blade flurry it will be in demand early on in the league (though its a common unique).

Swords in hardcore are hard to come across unless more people start crafting and picking them up.
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>dreamfeather memes

already tried it

it's shit
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THE FUCK SHOULD MY FIRST TWO MASTERS BE?

VORICI
????
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1774985

During Content Update 2.5.0's quality assurance process, we found a significant problem where item filters were being checked every single frame for every item rather than just when the items initially dropped.

Early tests indicate that this can result in a significant performance loss when using an item filter. It has affected our online realm for quite a while.

This is fixed in tomorrow's 2.5.0 update. We're very sorry about this problem but are very happy with the massive performance boost that comes out of fixing it.

>GGG in charge of programming
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>>161608291

Trickster is probably the best. Most cast speed, Damage over time, chunk of ES.
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>>161608814
Elreon

trade them alts to jorbs and jorbs to fuses for FREE currency
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>>161608572
Mate if you hit 100k evasion it still wouldnt compare to a good sword that costs a few exalts
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>>161608883
lol
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>>161608450
>yet I still do less dps than a 260 dps sword which costs like 1c.
With what setup? If you randomly plug Dreamfeather in a build that does not revolve around it, no wonder it's not going to do damage. Global attack damage is generically extremely strong, you get to scale flat chaos damage that would otherwise be hard to scale, and it double dips for poison if you use a projectile. The entire idea of Mathil's poison ST Dreamfeather is based on this and it deals great damage.
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>>161608814
>vorici

LOL
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>>161608883
jesus fucking christ
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>>161609050
I want to link stuff, sue me
Gonna actually give me some info as to why it's so funny?
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>>161609128
LOL
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can i please have a discord invite

i want to meme
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>>161608814
Elreon and Vorici
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>>161609157
:^)
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>>161609128
Don't listen to him, Vorici is an obvious choice, you're no longer limited to 2 masters in a small hideout though, you get 3 so Vorici Elreon Haku are priority and Navali is a free hideout slut that doesn't take a spot
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>>161609189
So you're a fag?
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>>161609267
LOL

>>161609272
LMAO
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>>161609329
HAHA XD
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>New patch note edits
>Unique maps now drop if you have completed their base type on the Atlas (Thank fuck)
>Flame Golem's damage has been increased by 140% instead of 200%

>Unironically nerfing things before release

Thanks ZiggyFuck
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>>161608813
>Cyclone Hatred
So you had no idea how to properly use the weapon.
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>>161609034
>and it double dips for poison if you use a projectile
Why wouldn't it double dip on using any attack?
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>>161609358
>Flame Golem's damage has been increased by 140% instead of 200%

What the actual fuck, you'd think they'd buff the other golems instead of nerfing shit that doesn't even look that good
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>>161609409
yes, it says "attack damage" so that means bladeflurry would be better with it of course
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>>161609409
Look up the mechanics of Poison, won't double dip unless it inherits a tag like projectile or AoE, melee skills don't get the double scaling unless they use Conc Effect
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What should I play tomorrow, bois?
Memeflurry, a golem summoner or FB scion Warchief?
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>>161609358
>>Flame Golem's damage has been increased by 140% instead of 200%
they literally just watch reddit and then nerf whatever they see there
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>>161609157
>15k es
hmmm
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>>161609409
Same reason it wouldn't double dip when you use a projectile skill: Modifiers to Attack damage cannot affect damage over time
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>>161609578
unironic frost blades
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>>161609578
roll with your post id
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>>161609358

Good, now there's reason to actually use the better Lightning Golem.
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>>161608814
haku and vorici on hc

elreon and vorici on shitcore
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>>161609802
Haku??????
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>>161609802
the fuck does HC / SC have to do with this?
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>>161609890
leetcore > tutorialcore
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>>161609358
OH DAMN, SUMMONERS WERE ABOUT TO BE USEFUL FOR ONCE.

THANK GOD THE GGG BALANCE POLICE ARRIVED TO NERF IT JUST IN TIME, CANT LET THESE FUCKERS HAVE FUN.

BLADE FLURRY IS OKAY THOUGH.

Seriously though, this happens every time summoners get good news. Maybe let a build other than SRS get some love for once.
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>>161609954
leetcore > tutorialcore > logoutcore
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>>161609504
So poison with skills with one of these tags would double dip on the relevant damage type?

Assuming that does it mean the Deamfeather's attack damage carries over with the projectile tag inherited by the poison?
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>>161609872
>>161609890

haku in hc for adding resist to your yellow gear early on

in shitbirdcore you dont need resist
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>>161609967
Summoners have been getting consistent buffs in every single patch for several years now, stop with the victim complex already
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>>161609358
Now flame golem will be good for my glacial hammer build
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>>161609967
>20% less dmg but still 140% more damage
>useless and no fun
Might want to cool off a minute before you murder someone.
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>>161610029
Every time they get some buff that lets them be comparable with the current FotM melee/ranged skill GGG goes around and nerfs it.

They really do hate summoners, but someone in the office has a hardon for SRS so it gets to exist.
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>>161609358
>Triple Flame Golem was my league starter even before FaggyD started hinting about it
>Makes it 10x more expensive AND gets it nerfed
>Before the league has even fucking started

Why do I even bother
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>>161610029
And they are still dogshit to play. QoL is a thing
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>>161609997
>Assuming that does it mean the Deamfeather's attack damage carries over with the projectile tag inherited by the poison?
No, that's not how it works, Dreamfeather scales flat chaos damage (flat chaos jewellery + Added Chaos), that scaled chaos damage is in turn scaled by projectile scaling which double dips for poison
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>>161610116
>triple flame golem was my league starter
>why do i even bother

good question
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>>161609997
>Assuming that does it mean the Deamfeather's attack damage carries over with the projectile tag inherited by the poison?
No, the guy is wrong. The increased attack damage from Dreamfeather does NOT double dip under any circumstance.
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>>161610029
And yet with the hundreds of mobs in the game only about 3 are worth using as spectres
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>>161610083

>confusing more and increased modfiers

found the newfaggot
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>>161609358
Yeah, fuck summoners, they were about to be A TINY BIT DECENT. Can't be having that shit, right?

Good thing Blade Flurry got a 5% attack speed nerf as well!
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>>161609802
The fuck do you need Vorici for early in the league?
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>>161609358
>GGG preemptively nerfing things before people even play them

>>>they decided on 200% one day and then 140% the next purely because reddit is sperging about golems

GGG is so fucking bad at balancing why.
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>>161610083
Yeah, but now I might actually have to think about dual wielding clayshapers to make up the damage.

I dont know how anyone looked at that build and thought it needed a fucking nerf when youve got Blade Flurry in the game in its current state. Especially considering you can do T15 maps with a 90dps vagan dagger and a 5l with that fucking skill. Meanwhile im going to have to spend multiple exalts to get my build started because some fuckhead at the office probably decided to make the jewels a T1 or T2 drop.

Does this nerf kill the build? No. BUT IM STILL VERY ANGRY ABOUT GGG PULLING THIS BULLSHIT FOR NO REASON.
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>>161610253
dem phat phuse stacks
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blade flurry cosmetic guaranteed in a month, gotta powercreep them MTX
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Is dual dreamfeather worth it if you're using lacerate?
Which means no proj scaling
Or am I better off with something else?
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>>161610275
Its bizare, no one has actually made an endgame map viable golem build before this point.
I bet the build will be clunky and slow regardless of how much damage the fuckers do, because golem ai is dogshit.
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>>161610253

the faster you level it the faster its starts giving you fuses. thats about it
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I started about two weeks ago at the end of the league, really liked Ranger, eventually started heading down a Poison Barrage build.

Probably going to do the same thing in Breach, but I have a few questions: is just grabbing high-evasion armor as I level and the Dodge Chance skills good enough in terms of survivability, or do I need to grab increased evasion nodes in the passive tree as well (or is evasion actually not viable and I should go armor or something)? I found myself starting to die a lot around Cruel Act 2, but that might just be because I was playing solo and not moving well enough or using teleport arrow to distance myself from attackers because I'm shit.
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>>161610396
Did you forget they baked AI improvements into a fucking jewel instead of making it base?
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>>161610128
>>161610182
I'm getting conflicting statements here.
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> hit level 99
> trading and grouping is disabled
> cut-throat is enabled on all your instances
> other player can hunt you
> when you hit 100, league resets and you win
> the player that hits 100 has a glowing aura next league
> chris wilson is lowered from the sky wearing nothing but whipping cream
> if a player catches him, god reels him into heaven where he has a chance to defeat chris wilson himself for an ultra powerful item drop
> this event occurs each time a player hits 99, a 99 player is ganked or hits 100 with a 1 hour cooldown each time
> this event also occurs randomly
> the event is called "lamer chrisu"
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>>161610360
>>161610403
You gain 16 Jeweller's a day from it. That's a little over 1 Chaos. Once a day.
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>>161610208
Math is hard? Flame Golems got 200% increased damage from the old patchnotes, meaning they were gonna deal 300% of they deal now. New patchnotes lowers the change to 140% increased meaning they're gonna deal 240% of what they deal now. That's a change of 20% between the two patches.
The difference between the live servers (100%) and the patch tomorrow (240%) is still a huge buff of 140% more damage.

Or do you read the patchnotes as Flame Golem getting an actual mod that grants it 140% increased damage rather than its base damage getting tweaked?

Have a (you)
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>>161610187
Evasion is great, if you supplement it with sources of mitigation, a basalt flask and endurance charges goes a long way

Evasion nodes are not worth investing into but you get some with your natural pathing anyway
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>>161609358
Let me get this straight. They invite Ziggy out to their HQ. He creates and plays a build while there using the new golems and golem uniques. He records the video of his build while there. He then flies home while hyping up the build. The patch notes come out. The video he made and jewels he used are shown to the public.

THEN THEY NERF THE BUILD.

What is god's name were they waiting for?
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>>161610512
that's so freaking RANDOM LOL
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>>161610536
wheres your minmax vendor daily?

1c a day > 0c a day you dumdum
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>>161610512
>> cut-throat is enabled on all your instances
because maps are global instances
smart catposter
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>>161610720
In the more relevant enchants from other Masters.
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>>161610668
But bladeflurry is okay :^)
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>>161610491
Dreamfeather and its attack damage mod wont help you double dip.

Using projectiles and stacking projectile damage increases is a good way to double dip poison into obscene damage ranges.
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>>161610796
That's what I don't get. If they were simply waiting for reddit to go retarded they would have nerfed BF.
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>>161610457
why would you want your golem to turn into a nigger agressive golem if you're just using it as a walking buff, the "ai improvement" only makes sense for people using those as disposable spectres rather than a +100 life regen zombie
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>>161610741
you can join the 99 player's instance without their knowledge
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>>161610796
>>161610861
They're going to nerf Raider before it goes live. Mark my fucking words.
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How far up in map tiers can you take a Vaal Sparker if you only do open tilesets?
Considering whether to roll vsparker or uberlab farmer for first toon, but id like to take either of those into higher level maps.
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>GGG is so fucking stupid they'll preemptively nerf Flame Golem (a number they came up with as a buff) before it's even out because ZiggyReddit hyped it up

>but they won't buff a bunch of useless skills which are mechanically trash and powercreeped out of the game
>but hey we buffed this niche golem stuff

are you fucking kidding me?
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>>161610697
me > you
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>>161611127
in teh random games maybe?! lol SPORK
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>>161610668
>>161610796
>>161610861
ES
Flameblast
Blade flurry

They're all quite retarded at the moment and GGG didn't address them, they only addressed BV but the unbalance between ES and life is far worse. GGG seems so slow on nerfing / buffing things ever since 2.1 or so that when they do nerf that the damage has already been done, and already a significant amount of players use the OP skill.

Nobody would complain if they quickly fixed blade flurry to normal levels, now people make builds with it and will eventually complain once it gets nerfed.
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>>161610895
competitors would pay to send a lvl 80 hitman against another l99, stalking them, invading their hideout and map and suiciding against them with flicker strike into 6L cast on death discharge setup

it would become literally p2w
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>>161611308
that sounds fun as fuck
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>>161610275
>>161610396
It's hillarious they focus on nerfing golems instead of buffing a few major life nodes by 1-2% and nerfing a few major ES nodes by 1-2% (so that you get instead of 14k ES more like 12.5k ES and so that you would get with 7.5k life more like 8.2k life). It isn't maybe going to resolve that balance but it will help in getting the power levels a bit closer to each other instead of the current huge advantage ES has.
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>>161611308
give flasks a third 'applies versus player only' affix to block suicide hitmen. problem solved.
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>>161610949
They better not. It's perfect where it is
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>>161610849
>Using projectiles and stacking projectile damage increases is a good way to double dip poison into obscene damage ranges.
Okay thanks. All of this can get a bit confusing.
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>>161611308
I can't think of any case where it'd be worth it to level to 80 just to RIP somebody else and then yourself.

>>161611402
What the fuck are you talking about? They're buffing the golems. They just lowered how much they're buffed by.
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There is literally no reason for there not to be some sort of % life regular flask after Eternal/Divine Life flasks
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r8 my fotm metashit ci bf build

www.poeurl.com/S7y

biggest question are the nodes near vaal pact vs. alchemist
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>>161611615
*slow claps*

*steps out of portal*

Heh... not bad, exile. Not bad at all. Your build, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's plenty viable... I can tell it's got some thought behind it... lots of quotable material...

But builds aren't all sunshine and rainbows, exile. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a streamer? To rake those esteemed twitch views? To call yourself a member of the League's ladder?? Build design takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The world-class builds - I mean the big guys, like LiftingNerdBro and ProjectPT- they're out there day and night, burning the midnight oil, working tirelessly to craft that next big build.

And you know what, exile? 99 times out of a hundred, that new build fails. Someone dismisses it as bait, or says it's "tryhard," or ignores it as they copy/paste the latest build copypasta dreamt up by those sorry excuses for cut-rate builds over on the forums. The build game is rough, exile, and I don't just mean the one you just lost :^). It's a rough business, and for every artisan build you craft in your skill builder, some cocksucker at reddit has a Pathfinder or some shit that a million different exiles will attach a milion different flasks to. Chin up, exile. Don't get all mopey on me. You've got skill. You've got talent. You just need to show your drive.

See you in the Breach...
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>>161611402
For some reason they stopped revamping the tree in the last two major patches. Previously they would shave a few points off nodes and move some around to aid balance.
Even doing something as simple as removing infused shield or moving VP would go a long way to balancing CI.
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>>161611608
kek
poeg in charge of game design
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>>161611790
poeg would still be better than GGG
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>>161611885
Demonstratively untrue
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>>161609358
>GOLEMS ARE OP NEED NERF
>No we don't care that they literally haven't been tested, and most people probably wouldn't play them anyway because it's a summoner character
>Blade Flurry is fine though
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>>161610668
B L A D E
L
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F L U R R Y
L
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R
Y
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>>161611615
24 STR
melee damage on full life requires 111
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>>161611790
>>161611885
>>161611986
At the very least we'd get some change in the meta. The very base mechanics of the game need a mixup.
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>>161611758
They still made a few changes to the tree

They buffed

FUCKING

TOTEMS
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>>161611790
poeg balance team needs to go

reddit balance team needs to be sent to the ovens

GGG balance team needs to be fired

They should just jam the tree and all the gems into a random number generator and run with the results because it would probably be more consistent that way.
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Hey haven't played since rampage. is CI viable as a starting character in new league?
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>>161612489
CI is the meta, but you still always switch during Dried Lake (after you trade for shit you need).
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>>161612489
no
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>>161612296
I wouldn't say the base mechanics need to change, but I do miss the days when the tree would get a big overhaul, nodes and keystones would be moved across the entire thing, some branches would be expanded, others would be shrunk, and pretty much every single gem would receive at least some tiny number alteration.

A cycling meta would be a really good thing for this game.
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Guise, guise
Rolling flames, facebreaker warchief or a golem summoner?
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the item filter "bug" is probably the funniest thing i've seen in my 5 year sof playing this game. GGG is amazing
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>>161612787
great, but how many years until they fix item filters from turning all text into moonrunes randomly?
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>>161612787
>but we are very happy with the massive performance boost that comes out of fixing it.
>massive performance boost

safe to say the game will run at 10 fps lower
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>>161612692
Facebreaker Warchief is probably the strongest out of the three, even with the sideway changes it took from the patch
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you telling me all those lag rips were due to neversink's filter? wtf i hate ggg now
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we need cut-throat to be a thing guys and it's gonna apply only to the players who are almost at 100 and to the amusement of everyone else.
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>>161612787
>guys we're multithreading our graphics api calls
>oh and we're running your loot filter every frame lol

>>161613076
This must be why it's been fine on my computer all along.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYEBwNGilv4
much better than projectloser's half baked shitty le ssf builds video
mathil is our guy
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>>161613076
Essentially this is why you have been lagging when passing through areas with high item density on the floor.
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>>161612602
Indeed I'd like to see much bigger changes even if it weren't always for the best. It would change things up enough to make each new league more interesting.

What I'd most like to see is an entire player defense/enemy damage rework.
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>>161612692
I ran rolling flames during essence league. it's pretty comfy once you get 3+ rolling flame jewels going, making it possible to shotgun bosses with the fireball explosions. I wouldn't bother with a golemancer since shiggyD has fucked the market for that. As >>161613058
said though facebreaker cuckchiefs is going to be the strongest in the end
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>>161613218
mathil is actually kinda likeable but I dislike him on principle

He's basically the Pied Piper of Crowcore, and it annoys me.
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Is there any reason to go non crit if you're making a bow build?
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>>161613371
I like that he's building his characters life-based instead of going the cheesy CI route which seems to be commonplace nowadays
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>crow memes

dumb logoutcore babbies
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>>161613536
>league starter
>CI
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>>161613710
Shitcrows logout 10x more because they're near death way more often.
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>>161613371
I like that he takes literally anything and pulls fucking crazy damage out of it. Somehow he just makes anything work.

Sure they might not be HC viable builds but if there's a Mathil build you can be sure it will have damage.
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>>161613904
it has crazy damage because mathil has good mechanical skill and doesn't need as much defense

look at the gear he runs around with, shitloads of crit
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>>161613850
no one uses a logout macro in sc
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>>161613904
he always chooses a good build, he just doesnt get near enough life/es on his tree and gear to be HC viable

his old CoC builds were a good example of this
>>161613536
its not CI thats cheesy its vaal pact desu
CI just gets used because you have a shitton of EHP to not get 1shot
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What are some fun starter two hander builds
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>>161614147
EQ
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>>161614147
Slayer EQ
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>>161614069
Only because no-one is serious.
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>>161614069
>Shitcrows actually think nobody logs out or uses logout macros in their league
10% xp is literally hours of maps. Anyone with some mental capacity would logout unless they're low % XP anyways and just trying to clear a boss.
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>>161614147
You could do Ancestral Warchief and faceroll through the entire game. The same goes for EQ anything.

Then there's Jugger or Slayer Lacerate.
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what builds are you guys palying so i can buy all the jewels and raise the prices sky high
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>>161614261
10% exp is nothing if you're trash but hardcucks are so scared of killing mobs that aren't dried lake so they refuse to get near them
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>>161614624
energy from within and chill of corruption are pretty much the only 2 valuable+popular jewels
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>>161614624
srs
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>>161608814
Elreon cuz comfy enlightened hideout.
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Is dual dreamfeather worth the investment or just stick to high dps rare swords?
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2bh shitcrows should just play hardcore because it's more fun and rewarding
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>>161614650
Yet every league still has HC players reaching level 100 before shitcrows. They then spend all day whining about how all these DPS items are broken because all they do is get damage when they're all shit items on HC leagues and complain about the economy being shit etc etc because shitters don't get their gear taken away for being shit.
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>>161614802
>logoutcore
>fun
>rewarding
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>>161615004
>Yet every league still has HC players reaching level 100 before shitcrows

Not really. People aren't interested in farming dried lake all day.
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>>161615004
>complain about the economy being shit

this is the real reason to play hardcore
sc economy is way worse than hc until the end of the league when hc dies
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>>161614796
arnet they like 1c lol
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if your build wasn't shit then how come it doesn't work in hc

if you're not shit at poe then how come you keep dying

if you think logging out will save you then how come so many top players die

basically why are you such a stupid piece of shit
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>>161615289
>sc economy is way worse than hc

fucking liar
>hc
>less players
>less items
>items disappear
>less buyers/sellers

Leveling Uniques in HC are fucking cancer but cheap as fuck in SC and there are a whole lot more rares. economy SC is so much better in every way
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>>161614796
High dps rares will be better unless you are scaling poison (flat chaos damage) specifically
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>>161614147
>>161614276
EQ outscales lacerate though, especially if you can get the helmet enchant for less duration on earthquake though they are often expensive.

2 handed builds at the moment feel very limited since earthquake is much better than anything else.
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@161615481
it does

because
>volatiles
>server lag
>getting crit
>dumb 1-shot mechanics like shaper beam/orbs which hit like 8k pure or something stupid

because loggout macros aren't perfect, and the times they have saved top players they kept on playing - but they don't count as deaths of course despite how cheesy they are

because you're autistic
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>>161615614
This is true but Lacerate is still very viable.
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they die on stream from non technical reasons. stop making excuses you shitter
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if 100% of physical damage is converted to fire can you still use hatred?
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>logoutcore

LOL
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>>161612996
lol that's what I thought of when I saw that
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>>161615289
>>161615498
> play hardcore
> want to try Earthquake with Atziri's disfavour
> 0 disfavours
> Okay I'll just get a random 600 dps axe instead
> 2h axe on poe.trade is 529,4 physical dps
> 3 more axes that are above 500 dps
> all are expensive but w/e
> 3 of them offline, the one who is online is AFK
> one comes online, suddenly increases his price twice the amount or some other bs

It's really awful playing hardcore leagues in endgame.
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>>161615498
sc exalts suffer from inflation from week 2 lol exalts were like 1:70c by the end of ESC because the market gets so saturated with good gear the only way to get anything better is to multimod or multislam rares at least exalts stay at a conservative ratio all league long in EHC and you don't feel as cucked doing the unid chaos recipe for just 1/35th of an exalt yo
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>>161615795
yes it scales the pre-conversion phys im pretty sure. just try it lol
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>>161615498
>muh leveling uniques
lets ignore the fact that build defining uniques are effectively much more expensive because the chaos:exalt rate is through the fucking roof
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>>161615878
i delete all my characters when league ends
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>>161615289
There are too few people playing hardcore now to even fuel the rare market. It's alright for the first two weeks, but it just nose dives from that point on wards. It's one of the biggest driving forces behind the growing interest in SSF on hardcore.
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>>161615498
You're a retard if you think less items and items being dropped out of the league is bad. It directly combats inflation and if you can get an ez safe&slow modo build to mid tier maps you can get enough currency to gear your whole damn roster.

The reason SC players think this is bad is because it involves actually getting a character to maps.
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stop dying pls
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>>161615795
it does with ele conversion, for example pyre cold to fire, i would imagine phys is the same
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>>161615976
>>161615853
>playing this shit game for longer than 1 month into a league
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redpill me on flameblast totems

inquis or elementalist to do all content
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>>161615943
>build defining

you mean broken shit like kaoms, skyforths void shavs heretics veil cospris right
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>>161616102
Elementalist. It's great.
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>>161615943
Also nobody really uses chaos to reroll maps on SC because on SC they don't care if they die to a random oneshot on a high tier map with +% crit multiplier +% lightning +% fire +% monster and unique boss +% damage.
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imagine even shaper drops being utterly worthless 2 weeks in because shitcrows 6 portal zerg him
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>>161615976
That's because there's nothing to do after a month into the league. After you've killed Shaper/Uber Atziri, done 2-3 builds, got your challenges, what else is there to do? Skill tree is virtually the same aside from Raider and flasks nerfed to the ground. People only stick around if there's a lot to explore. If GGG was smart they'd add something mid expansion to try and keep numbers a bit more stable.
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>>161583139
I love Hege. Great guy but usually only plays "leap slam into packs, hit with melee skill" buils so he's not very diverse.
Top tier charisma though, I enjoy listening to him and hear what he has to say.
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imagine your life being so worthless that you post cats on /poeg/
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>>161616279
isn't that GOOD? shit's cheap and I can actually get them? hell yeah
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>>161616279
What do dying suns, starforges, disfavours, and acuities even cost in sc leagues? Each of those items would be 20ex+ in HC.
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>tfw 3 more months of the same shit of problems that plagued last league minus Pathfinder

>all these retards memeing about melee/life builds when CI still stomps them

only problem is ES gear will be even more expensive because the lack of essences, thanks GGG you retards, even worse in HC
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>>161616367
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>>161616102
inquis and stack crit. there's no point in going totems if you aren't going to stack crit
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guys what if doomfletch ranged attack totems?
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>>161616425
more than 600c i'm pretty sure. was looking through sc on poetrade and the shit still seemed way over priced. maybe sc players are really just that trash
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>>161616393
no that's terrible why would you even have incentive to build a good shaper character if portal zerging is a legit strategy, it undervalues literally the entire dynamic of the league because your ability to get ahead of everyone else and have a strong build that can run content deathless is not rewarded as it should, in other words the guy with 3k less ES than you and 20k more dps is guy getting ahead even though he just has to use all his 6 portals because of "accidental" deaths
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>>161616597
t. shitter
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>>161616425
They hold their value well because a larger percentage of the playerbase is willing to make that purchase. It's a pretty big risk to run around with a 600+ chaos axe on hardcore.

I know for sure Disfavour was roughly the same cost in chaos as it was on hardcore throughout the entire league.
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>>161616532
>only problem is ES gear will be even more expensive
I don't see an issue with this, more than 50% of the ladder is already life, what's the incentive of going CI if your investment is higher but your return equal or lower than life, makes no sense, the price of CI gear balances itself
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>>161616751
then just play hc if you care that much?
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>>161616820
>going totems
>not getting every crit node possible
>not going inquisitor

megashitter
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>>161616349
Very few stick around in HC for challenges, even less do shaper / atziri.

Most people get a character very high, then die on that character for w/e reason. Then they level again and just get burned out really fast due to rips. If they don't like meta builds either they won't level another character again.

The issue that you're explaining is something that affects standard, not hardcore.

>>161615976
Also because people in hardcore usually do lower tier maps than people in softcore it futher declines the amount of rares. Many people don't even ID on hardcore as well and just chaos recipe everything and then buy the uniques / rares they need.
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@161616945

>more than 50% of the ladder is already life

lying isn't good for you anon
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>>161617039
i can tell you don't even play hc
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>>161616981
that's what i'm doing lmao, just giving you some perspective why you might not want to play dumpster league where no item sink exists and people are fine with resetting their exp bar to zero
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>>161617120
better than being sent to shittercore
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>>161617220
buts thats where ur starting LMAO
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*deletes logoutcore*

game is saved
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>>161617110
I do. And if people even did do Atziri I wouldn't have had this problem last league >>161615853


There was actually 1 disfavour but the guy asked a mirror for it, the other guy never came online. I had 25 ex to drop on one to finish that build. I levelled like 4 characters in tempest league as well as one in warbands and it burned me out pretty bad afer a month I didn't play anymore and I also skipped the league after tempest.
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>>161615795

Any % extra modifier is added before conversion.
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>>161617484
stop surrounding you'reself with shitters and git gud
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0-3 Bladevortex
4-5 Bladefall
6-9 Bladeflurry
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>>161615853
>> want to try Earthquake with Atziri's disfavour
>> 0 disfavours
stop right fucking there you fucking lying twat. that or you cant type.
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@161617274
>standard is the same as a temp league

?
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i wanna find all these little bitches who think they're slick for denying (You)s and strangle them
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reminder that bladeflurry was originally a spell until they decided they needed a channeling attack

even the game files mark it as a spall

also why do you think every other channeled skill in the game is a spell

even reave isn't a channeled skill, they could literally tack on a channeled bonus onto any skill
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>>161617694
Hope you're going BF traps.
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elementalist flameblast totems or self cast to start the league. path of least resistance advice pls.
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>>161618035
>reminder that bladeflurry was originally a spell
wrong, you could see the prototype of BF being used by kraityn in castle ruins / strand 3 months ago so it was very much planned to be melee from the start
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>>161618129
correct
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>>161618127
there is no freaking reason to go elementalist instead of inquisitor for flameblast totems
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>>161618127
self cast is smooth, no cast speed penalty from spell totem and you can drop an OoS for that juicy EO proc

totems for end game transition but honestly i wouldn't bother if you find the playstyle cancerous
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>>161618307
Of course there is. You don't have to rely on crit for damage and prolif helps clear faster.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1774994
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>>161618307
pretty sure others disagree. you can get below 0 resists with ee no prob. sure like the cast/attk speed tho

>>161618316
vote for self cast taken. to heart. thanks.
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>>161618429
just go CI inquisitor it's literally THE flameblast totem build

poeurl.com/S87
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>>161618474
Who's the woman with blonde hair? Is she coming out in 3.0?
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>>161618504
>ee on a dual totem build

nice dude
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>>161618570
>just do this thing that's worst than your other option
No thanks. I did both last league and elementalist is better
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>>161618429
if you dont have to worry about reflect theres no reason to not go crit and prolif is a meme when your totems are casting 10stack fb
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>>161618672
so what you run coh ball lightning with ele weak + flamm with mastermind of discord and EE

sounds fucking terrible to play
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1-2 Shitflurry
3-4 Summoner
5-6 Warchief
7-8 Disintegrate
9-0 Rolling flames
trips- skip league
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>he takes the league that real players delete their dead character from very seriously
>he thinks playing in a league which is nothing more than an extension of the afformentioned league is any better
>he tries to cover his behavior up by claiming it's just for practice or achievements
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>>161619094
welp, hope shiggyD didn't fuck clayshaper's price beyond reason.
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>>161619094
lucky~
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i hate every single one of you fucking idiots
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>>161619181
it did.
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i hate me too
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>>161619324
what the fuck?
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>>161619032
retard
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>>161619157
nice glasses
said NO ONE
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>>161619446
how the fuck can you place totems, curse/EE with BL, and gain power charges without needing to slow down. completely unnecessary

placing totems is bad enough by itself
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>>161619032
OOS with flamability on hit and inc crit. You're using OOS for EO anyway.
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>>161619535
why the fuck would you use ball lightning when orb of storms exists and you're speccing into templar and witch aoe

>ee
>power charges on elementalist

you are actually retarded
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>>161619535
You don't do that unless you're retarded like >>161619446 said. Why the fuck are you trying to get power charges in a non-crit build?
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>>161619701
>>161619701
>>161619701
>>161619701
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>>161619545
>EO

i'm being fucked with now unless you're actually implying EO + ~150% pen is better than 0% resist and ~400% multi

buncha literal turdbirds itt
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>>161617545
what about lowering the monster's resistance?

like fire to chaos, lowering their fire resist

my guess is it doesn't help
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If you convert your fire to chaos then it wont benefit from fire pen at all.
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>>161620058

stop with the microaggresions please
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these jews not giving (you)s
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>>161619485
you just did right there
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>>161609358

>Unironically nerfing things before release
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So what are meta, but not absurdly expensive, builds to play in 2.5?

I've only played as a Flame Totem Hierophant, Flicker Strike Trickster, and BV Pathfinder in the past. (Ironically, I chose BV Pathfinder far before GGG, ZiggyD, and other streamers promoted BV Pathfinder, as it was the least likely build from Prophecies to get shit on by the incoming nerfs.) Needless to say, I didn't have fun spending currency on softcore trying to gear out the original spec Life+MoM variant of BV Pathfinder. I didn't get Taste of Hate until a week before Essence ended...

Flameblast sounds good, and Totem buffs sounds excellent, but I'm not sure if it's worth it, after reading posts.

Golemancer sounds interesting, but ZiggyD already promoted it, so unique jewels will be fucking hell to buy.

Ancestral Warchief wasn't nerfed too much, but IIRC the strongest variants were Abyssus + Facebreaker unarmed variants, and seeing that Facebreakers were nerfed...?

Explosive Arrow sounds pretty good, but I'm not too keen on the whole idea of what appears to be utilizing weapon switch slot for a second +3 Fire Bow.

Raider looks fun, but I can't think of anything that would innately work very well with it with the Frenzies, besides as a catalyst for dead discharge memes or playing a Flicker again, in which case I'd have a hard time getting crit dagger gear.

Summoner still seems like it'll be a meme, and the reduced amount of SRS directly makes compensating for terrible minion AI a lot worse, even if the damage is good.
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Can't decide between piercing spark scion and FB elementalist for breach. How do these two compare for 1st character in a new league ? I am both noob AND bad at this game.
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>>161625965
Don't play scion. Funblast ele is good, Inq pizza sticks is fine too.
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