Eve Online General /eog/

thanks kevin

sansha a shit tho

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x dps

>>161574162
Now entering Toilet VI system

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Who was the jew who made SKINs variant-locked.

The fact I can't use the Thukkar cyclone skin on my Claymore makes me mad as hell

>>161574506
why would you want to fly either of those ships

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>>161574548
because the cyclone hull is cute! CUTE!

It's like the Magikarp of EVE!

>>161574665
I don't understand the Minmatar idea of putting solar panels on like that, or whatever the fuck that is.

>>161574665
disgusting reskin in that pic, pls delete

I think they look ok, but they're both very weak ships

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>>161574506
I want more thukker skins in general.

>>161574780
Plebeian

Do skins apply to every ship of that hull type or is this still eve and they go on one ship and are gone if it dies?

Pls give me a loki solo fit that isn't shit

>>161575491
(Permanent) means you can use the skin forever.
(timed) means you can put it on however many ships you want, but the timer runs out eventually.

>>161576178
Oh so a skin isn't used up when applied to one ship? Sweet.

>active tanked gila

So. Eve is free now.

Are plex still a thing?

I'm willing to go back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs13usXnObw

>>161577148
but it's not like that. I just go around soloing industrial ships in a vexor.

>>161576932
Yeah you can plex free accounts to make them normal accounts. It's easier if you had bank saved up, plex aren't cheap anymore and free accounts have skills they can't learn or use so isk grinding is slow.

>>161577520

What a bunch of jews. I have plenty of isks laying around, but brazil economy shat the fucking bed and the whole thing got to expensive to keep on playing. Sad thing, lad. I play since 2006.

desu if it wasn't for my thousand year old account I wouldn't even bother, this alpha stuff is pretty disgusting. I was reading the dev blog and I see that eve elitists are still annoying as ever. They must have cried lots and lots.

And the devs still put that they want to give the "most full and unhindered EVE experience".

>unironic grindfags

>>161577913
>brazil
as much as I agree that alpha is too limited, please fuck off and don't shit up the servers with BR nonsense

i get enough of that in dota.

>>161578335

Calm down, lad. EVE was always a safe heaven from bad players, brazilians don't like to play the mmo's like eve and the ones who do are not your "huehuehue" kind of brazilian. Don't go all /pol/ on me.

Still, alpha is too fucking limited. I hope 150 billions is enough to buy me a plex or two.

>>161577913
stop being such a faggot. just pay the sub

>>161578623
150b is enough to buy you about 14 plex.

They are 1.1 billion right now.

>>161578737
Some people can't spend money online or are, god forbid unemployed

>>161578921
You are no mathemagician, anon.

>>161578921
Good job.

>>161578985
>>161579016

I MADE A TYPO OK

>>161578921
plex price is how much isk people are willing to pay for game time. you can say pve spits out too much isk if you like, but any other whining with plex prices seems silly to me

>>161578921

As I said, not only I don't like to spend too much cash online, the game is too expensive it's just not worth it.

Would you consider worth or money well spent if you had to pay 500 dollars a year to play eve? Because it's basically the same thing for me. And I do have quite a decent job and a business on envato.

It's not faggotry, it's just... Nah.
But well, we'll see.

>>161579147
Plex prices have been artificially inflating for years because of the spacerich plex barons want more isk (despite having such a stupid huge amount already they can basically fund an entire nullsec alliance alone).

To this day I have no idea why CCP doesn't actively attempt to reduce the price of PLEX. Its in their own business interest to keep PLEX isk price low.

>>161579437
what like going into people's market orders and reducing the prices?

>>161579519
No, like placing restrictions on how many PLEX's you can carry at a time to limit speculation and inclination to inflate the price to make a greater return investment.

It'll never happen because the space rich whales and their null-sec minions will go insane if they do this or any other method.

>>161579437
>Its in their own business interest to keep PLEX isk price low.
Surely the higher the isk price of plex the more likely people will have to resub, and there's a greater incentive to buy plex purely for it's isk value.

>>161579178
You've got the isk so it's a moot point.

>>161579701
another reason it'll never happen is it's fucking dumb

>>161579774
Actually its the opposite.

PLEX is $19.95. For simplicity I will round up to $20.

A regular 1 month sub is $15.

With low plex ISK prices, people are incentivized to pay for their sub with ISK, and every PLEX had to have been bought with real money from SOMEONE.

They get a greater amount of money when more people rely in ISK to plex their accounts.

>>161579437
You fucking retarded, Plex hasn't been sub 800m in 3 years

>>161579774
CCP makes 20 from every plex they sell into the game and 15 from every sub. If the plex price is low in isk then someone who wants to buy a tricked out mission boat has to buy more plex to sell.

>>161580075
Still been slowly going up.

Then again, the last time I played, PLEX was somewhere around 500m.

>>161580193
I remember those times. When I could still dream of plexing my accounts...

>>161579701

>placing restrictions on how many PLEX's you can carry at a time

Given that you can use plex to make new accounts to circumvent any plex restriction, your method effectively works out as a small tax on holding plex.

>>161580330
Sounds like a perfectly acceptable side-effect to me.

>>161580009

They don't want that because they don't want people to play for free because muh free player bogeyman.

I'm surprised they even made this game free to play.

>>161580496
I never did understand what was with bittervets and despising the idea of a F2P option that wasn't shit.

Reminds me of SWTOR actually, except EVE F2P is even more restricted than SWTOR was.

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why wont this load?

>>161580751
cause ccp is shit

>>161580465

It won't do anything to affect the price of plex tho.

>>161580751
>makes a post before closing it and trying again

>probably didnt even put it in the hangar inventory

>>161577148
>all this shit about orca kill

Am I missing something with these heavy disruptors and scrams?
You either have bubbles or it's better to pull 4 new players out of rookie help, toss them frigates and teach them how to spiral in than it is to give up a mid slot on a bs. I mean, a bs isn't going to catch anything at a gate. Most damn fleets want to fight each other at first, yeah you dance around and warp for your ideal engagement range but niggas want to fight, that's why you're better off sending in your tackle frigs after the engagement has started.
Are these modules just win-more in terms of points?

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When will CCP nerf afk sovnull ratting? PVE shouldn't be something you don't have to focus on.

spiralling is a meme, just go straight at an angle

>>161583457
ccp has to cater to nullbabbies or the game would die

>>161583457
remove local from null and its fixed.
no need to mess with anything else or do complex shit with the sites.

t. hotdropper

>>161583507
That's what spiralling is, you just change the angle up from time to time.

>frig coming straight from an angle
>how did he start at such a nice angle
>i dunno
>look at, spin camera around double click in space above his bow
>blap

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>frigs trying to spiral in on me
>just blap them when they change direction and their transversal drops
>MJD away and repeat
>green kb full of alphas that fell for the manual piloting meme

>>161584079
yeah just get your battleship up to 4km/s and you'll have zero transversal

>tfw I just hit orbit at the appropriate range for PvP

I'm a simple man

>>161584414
why would they change directions if they were spiraling in one direction towards you?

>>161584541
you can do very well with orbit/approach/keep at range if you understand them

if there's some snipey range meme guy at 80km or whatever, why bother doing some retarded spiral shit when you can just press orbit at 30km, then when you're closish to that you hit orbit at 5km or something

>>161584464
You don't need zero. If a nigga is travelling in a straight line towards you from far enough away then you just match his direction of travel and transversal will drop enough.

>>161584414
I don't think you have any idea how to properly spiral in when tackling.

>>161580009
>left the game years ago
>plex were at 400m isk
>well over 1bn now

Is it even possible to plex your account as an alpha clone? How many cumulative hours of game play would it take, must be at least in the few hundreds.

I can do most of the things I used to enjoy, just without a cloak.

>>161584678
>80km or whatever, why bother doing some retarded spiral shit when you can just press orbit at 30km
becuase at that distance and the request to orbit at 30 from 80 your ship won't spiral at all and just dive straight for him and he'll nail you with that strategy.

>>161585743
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Job

>>161585815
>dive straight for him

no it won't. maybe learn more about how these things work before blathering on about how bad they are

>>161585743
It's not. I mean you could but thats how you get players to burn out. You need to have fun with the isk you earn and only use plexes when you have the skills to earn them fairly easily.

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>>161585898
Are you fucking stupid, your ship won't attempt to spiral from 80, thats 2.3x the distance

it'd be different going from 50km to 30km orbit where the ship will gradually enter the 30km orbit because 50km isn't far away

but fucking 80? your slope will be so steep he'll NAIL you christ this isn't hard. It most certainly does happen you tool

even if the game had you only dive at 45 degrees you'd still get fucked the entire way down

Here an atron with a 5mn MWD barrels towards a thorax from 100 at a 45 degree angle.

>>161586383
literally undock and orbit a can or something you shitter

>>161586493
>I'm at 80km
>I set my orbit on an enemy cruiser to 30km from my position
>NO THAT GRAPH MEANS NOTHING JUST FUCKING ORBIT REEE

start at 80km and set 30km orbit you'll get fucked if your angle of descent is too steep

>>161586592
every day with this guy, fucking christ

don't you think the atron would overheat? don't you think there'd be like 10 seconds at the start where the atron isn't getting shot at?

and don't you realise that flying at such stupid angles means you will never actually catch the target and then you'll die because you're retarded?

why do you have to be so shit at everything, this stuff isn't hard

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>>161586767
>don't you think the atron would overheat?
Heres the graph of the atron overheating to 5330m/s from 3700

Remember this is assuming the thorax stays still, doesn't have any extra tracking mods like TP's or TC's, has no drugs or anything

>10 seconds where it doesn't get shot
3.7km/s would get the atron about 37km from its starting point, not directly at the thorax but 37km into its flight path. At 45 degrees that is effectively half the distance because of basic trig, the atron would be approximately 18.5km closer to the target after 10 seconds at 45 degrees going 3700m/s.

Overheating to 5300 makes him cross 53km in 10 seconds, half that distance at 45km is a little north of 25km closer which is right in the thorax's sweet spot. It takes a thorax 3 seconds to lock a cruiser sized atron with a MWD on.

>you'll never catch the target at that angle
you'll never catch the target at an even steeper angle. Wanna do the math at just 30 degrees?

>>161586767
>this stuff isn't hard
Also you're right this isn't hard

don't attempt to approach a long range ship from long range, it'd be way better to just warp to a ping and get a warp in onto him some other way. Its stupid to attempt to use the orbit 30km from 80+km thats retarded

>>161587342
>45km
45 degrees my bad

>suicide ganked a newplayer in a rookie system
>not a word from CCP

Holy kek, I even shared the kill in local.

>>161587342
>Remember this is assuming the thorax stays still, doesn't have any extra tracking mods like TP's or TC's, has no drugs or anything

I'll also remember that this is your chosen example with your fits, when I could've very well been talking about a tornado. I notice your atron's sig is about 50% larger than it should be btw, nice one

>you'll never catch the target at an even steeper angle

I'm the one saying take a more direct approach to the target rather than fannying about for 10 minutes manual piloting in pretty circles

>>161587498
no you're retarded if you think orbit at 30km for an 80km target is always retarded. long range targets do not have the same tracking. a cormorant has probably like 100x the tracking of a tornado

>>161587734
>when I could've very well been talking about a tornado.
A tornado would have seen you approaching and just left. You can play this projection game all you want.

>50% bigger than it should be
its a shield atron because armor would be EVEN WORSE for your case since the lack of speed would get it killed even easier. The lack of agility while accelerating would cause it to be even more vulnerable. Due to the speed loss and the signature shrink, it'd take you longer to cross that 80km and you'd take as much damage because thats how the shield and armor balance works.

>I'm the one saying take a more direct approach
then you'll die because the lack of transversal will allow the thorax to do even more damage.

>>161587734
>no you're retarded if you think orbit at 30km for an 80km target is always retarded. long range targets do not have the same tracking. a cormorant has probably like 100x the tracking of a tornado
see
>>161585815
>>161585898
you said that diving from 80km from 30 somehow magically doesn't make you go at neat 0 degrees. I gave you a mild benefit of the doubt and gave you 45 degrees even though its no where near that high for transversal

Scramming a ship with lit cyno should disable it

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>>161587734
heres an armor atron with a 400mm plate and trimarks barreling towards a thorax at 45 degrees going 2880m/s

you take about the same damage, and cover less ground

>>161588079
yes, anyone who isn't tackled might warp off. that doesn't mean you don't try. if you're good at eve and take the initiative you will catch more people than an ultra defensive shitter with bad understanding of game mechanics and tracking

shield buffer tanking and armour buffer tanking makes you equally vulnerable vs a stationary target m8. and the agility loss is literally nothing, please get good

>becuase at that distance and the request to orbit at 30 from 80 your ship won't spiral at all and just dive straight for him

if this is what you actually believe, I'm going to stop responding, you need to undock and practice orbiting some cans or something because you don't know what you're talking about

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>>161587734
>>161588079
>retards arguing about approaching kite ships/ long range blappers

Literally why? You are either fast enough to close with him at a speed where hos tracking takes a dive, or you are too slow and will get blapped/simply kited all day long.
Just make a call on wether you are gonna bother rushing him, or warp out and relog onto your cloaky alt to set a warp point right on him (assuming he is camping to snipe).


All of this shit is pure speculation, just do the rough calculation of his tracking vs your speed, and if it ain't looking good, go the cloaky option.
I do this and very, very rarely end up getting blapped at range.

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>>161588440
>expecting people to use their brains and be adaptable

>>161588440
nothing I said is contrary to what you're saying. I'm only saying spiralling around like a faggot is a waste of time and doesn't help you in any way

>>161588412
>if this is what you actually believe,
ITS FUCKING TRUE YOU NIGGER go on Sisi and drop a fucking can, go out 80km then set orbit for 30km Your angle of descent is super fucking steep the game doesn't compensate for you AT ALL the only thing the game sees is you're at a position and it'll fly you to the closest tangent of the orbit and try to hold it.

>you need to undock and practice
you need to log in and know how the fucking orbit button works because you magically think the game will progressively steepen your angle over your distance like some planetary space shuttle rentry and not dive straight for the orbit point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_WObZ3HdCg

This video is from just 2 years ago, the transversal applications haven't changed at all. Notice that when he selects orbit his ship always beams straight for the orbit, it doesn't compensate with a gradual descent it goes straight to it

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>>161588726
You are telling people to bumrush snipers.
He is telling people to bumrush snipers.

I don't see a point, regardless of how you spiral/not, as it will still get you blapped the majority of the time if he is in a non-retarded fit and you are slow enough to be second guessing the rush.

>>161588959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhWgR5lQ7Zs

Heres another great video where a crusader sets orbit 20km from 100km and the ship computer makes him dive straight for the atron and it never compensates at all

>>161588959
>fly you to the closest tangent of the orbit and try to hold it.

so you know how it works, but you're all retarded for some reason. this is exactly what you want - you approach the ship at a decent angle

I'm not watching a 10 minute video of some guy's opinions, sorry

>>161589108
it's not like you can't warp away if things go bad

>>161589108
No I said >>161588313
>>161588079
>>161587342


Don't bumrush a sniper ship at all its suicide. Always manually pilot in a gradual angle, never straight at it and never use the automatic orbit mechanic from long range

>>161589290
Until his tacklefit friends hotdrop you.

>>161589304
Literally just more time, and if he is a kiting sniper and you are a frigate, extended engagements will favor him 99% of the time, especially as he is probably in comms with people who will drop you as soon as you start getting close.


Either have a fast enough ship that you can fly any retarded angle you want and still close and dps, or cloak alt fleet warp right onto him.
All this other shit is a relatively pointless argument in the example given due to the fact that no matter what method you use, you will likely get blapped far more often than you reach him.

>>161589290
>you approach the ship at a decent angle
No you don't,

80km from the target, 30km radius orbit

that makes a virtual triangle with a side of 30, a hypotenuse of 80

Tan = opposite/adjacent

Tan = 80/30

thats an angle of descent of 17-20 degrees you fucking retard

thats EVEN WORSE than my 45 degree example

TL;DR you are FUCKED

>Lock target on broadcast
>press F1

nice gameplay. Better than simons says amirite?

>>161589290
>so you know how it works, but you're all retarded for some reason. this is exactly what you want - you approach the ship at a decent angle


http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/calrtri.htm

Assume you're at angle A, angle C is your target. The distance from angle A to angle C is 80km, the radius (angle B) is 30km for a 30km orbit. That gives your angle of descent is 20 degrees which is really fucking steep you're fucked

>>161590232
you're here looking at triangles like a gay aspie dork, I'll be 50km closer to the target with only minor damage

>>161590467
>20 degree's
>minor damage

heres that shield atron again, heading 20 degrees towards the thorax instead of 45

>minor damage
>takes even MORE damage for longer

>>161590673
here's a graph of you not realising the ship has to lock you before shooting you, and that being quick and decisive is the most important thing as a tackler

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Tfw waiting for super to pop out of oven.

>>161587695

You sound like a complete homo.

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>>161590673
forgot pic

>>161590781
the thorax takes 3 seconds to lock a cruiser sized atron, which isn't much since it takes the atron 21 seconds to close on you assuming its flying STRAIGHT at you which is even worse

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WHAT IF THERE WAS A SYSTEM IN HIGH SEC WHERE YOU COULD GO.

EVERY 23 HOURS YOU COULD SIGN UP FOR AN ONE ON ONE DUEL IN EITHER FRIGATES, CRUISERS, DREADNAUGHTS OR BATTLESHIPS,
THIS EVENT WOULD LAST TWO HOURS SO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THIS WOULD ALL BUNCH UP IN A BIG COMFY EVENT

ALLOW SPECTATING

REWARDS: SOME KIND OF ARENA LP, 1/3000TH ENEMY SHIP VALUE, AND 20% OF WHATEVER YOUR RANK IS ON WIN

NOT POSSIBLE TO FORCE FARM THIS

SPECIAL ITEMS ONLY FROM THIS TOO

WOW SUDDENLY YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHO THE SKILLED PEOPLE ARE IN EVE

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>>161590904
heres the same atron attempting to go 20 degrees on with an omen navy issue with pulse lasers

>>161590904
maybe get a better atron fit then bro

>oh no this thorax is hitting me with iron

flying ships like atrons and slashers as tackle involves taking some damage sometimes. it's not like bullying soloers with your linked snaked faction fitted stiletto. yeah you'll take some hits while closing, that's why you have a tank

or I guess you could just approach him at a 'safe' angle and never catch him then your fc tells you to kill yourself

>>161591045
ur gay shut up

>me, new player
>get told to tackle
>fly at orbits
>die
>whine about dying
>told to spiral in
>start spiraling in
>die less often
Good luck with your sticking to a straight line for 50kms though.

>>161591224
>maybe get a better atron fit then bro
it doesn't matter if its armor, hull, or shield, you're fucked in every scenario because your angle with the shooter is so small.

>oh no a thorax is hitting me with iron
hitting you for 180dps consistently over and over again. You're dead no matter what, this was a dumb engagement of you to choose. The thorax in this example doesn't have ANY other mods helping it like TC's TP's or rigs at all. Its not moving (which it probably will be).

>taking some damage
you're fucking dead.

What about that omen navy issue? can you survive 300+dps for 30km of your journey to him assuming the ONI never moves?

>>161591224
>or I guess you could just approach him at a 'safe' angle and never catch him then your fc tells you to kill yourself


>safer
>less steep angle
>take way less damage
>eventually get to him assuming he doesn't kill you or warp off (then again he's not moving why?)

>"more dangerous"
>burn towards him (dumb FC told you to literally commit suicide so you follow orders blindly)
>die because you get fucked for max damage

>>161591576
>You're dead no matter what, this was a dumb engagement of you to choose

you chose the ships
you chose the fits

what in the fuck anon

>consistently over and over again

it's like 10 seconds lol who cares

>TC's TP's

these things push it further toward me being better. if you aren't avoiding all of the incoming damage, then all the damage you avoid with your angled approach, you still take because you take longer to get to the target

>you're fucking dead

it's a rail thorax

>What about that omen navy issue

do you really think I'd mwd at an omen navy issue that's burning away from me? question for you though, do you think 'approaching' him at a 45 degree angle (not really approaching since he'd actually be getting further away from you over time) would mitigate damage?

are there mutual funds in eve?

>>161592064
>these things push it further toward me being better.

>thorax does more damage
>lol that makes me better
wat

>its a rail thorax
you're dead

>I'd MWD at an ONI
you'll die against the thorax the same way

>>161592151
>wat

if you're going to increase his tracking by 50%, then it's going to make your pointless flowery attempts to never take any damage even more futile, while still wasting time by not actually closing the distance and getting the tackle on. I'll be here taking his 100 dps for 10 seconds or whatever getting things done

>>161592278
sounds like you shouldn't have taken the endgagements and try to burn at him

>>161591045
make a corporation

drop a citadel/travelmark

create a box with 8 mobile depots, secure containers or micro-jump devices

WE SPESSH OKTAGON NOW BITCH

go do it

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https://zkillboard.com/kill/57770204/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/57770276/

DREDDIT IS RECRUITING

>>161592490
Whatever happened to team reddit after they got their shit pushed in and slunked off to lowsec in shame?

>>161592708
did that happen

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>>161592490

The day dreddit dies is the day this game gets back on track.

>>161592960
Yeah, back when I still played after the t1 rebalances. Somebody slapped the shit out of them and they scurried off to lowsec.

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>>161592490
This
>>161592708
Joined the worst fucking coalition in the history of the game, went to one of the shittiest regions after bailing from that, and now are sitting in an alright region as PLNC have a giant hateboner for us.

>>161593196
they've been all over the place since then I think. I try not to give them any attention, but it's hard because people only post on leddit, and test posts all over leddit. I think right now they're in tribute or vale with circle of two. they're still gay, in case you're wondering

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>>161593398
and they're still the best

DREDDIT IS RECRUITING

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>>161593591
not in my thread

>>161592960
2013, TEST got booted from Fountain by Goons. We shed a lot of members, spent some time in lowsex doing FW and things were pretty aids. We got involved with Brave and formed the HERO coalition, which was gay as fuck and soon died.

We then made a thing of moving to Wicked Creek, which was pretty fun I guess. World War Bee happened and we ended up with Vale of the Silent, some actually nice space. Somewhere along the line we picked up more members and there's been a push to change attitudes from 'we're shit lol' to 'we can improve if we try'.

It's probably the best time to be in TEST that it has ever been.

>>161593398
That really wasn't something I was wondering about. They're one of those bunches that can only have space if napfests exist.

>>161574780
Those are solar panels? Seriously?
Aren't the ships big enough to justify concentrated solar thermal?

>>161594126
Probably radiators. Shedding excess heat is difficult in space.

>>161594219
Yeah, having them stacked like that would defeat the purpose of solar panels

>>161590868
Yeh, but it's still funny.
Poor cuck shouldn't have been in a corp day 1, had everyone else to choose from, and I picked him soley because of that.

Also, got a pod kill on a venture in 0.7 worth 100 mil yesterday, nice surprise.

>>161585743
>plex were at 400m isk
Not sure how income was when you used to play, but 200m ISK/hour is the current baseline.

>cyclone
>6.67 effective launchers, 5 medium drones

>brutix/harb
>9 effective turrets with no rate of fire gimp shit, 5 medium drones

>hurricane
>same thing but fewer drones

>ferox
>+9999% range, still more effective # of weapons than cyclone

how did ccp fuck up this hard? the bc rebalance wasn't that long ago

>>161594526
source?

>>161574665
>loved cyclone hull
>flew clones all the time
>ccp decides they want the split damage race to drop the split but go missiles on those ships
>perfect gunnery skills
>no missile skills
>no more cyclone
>sleipnir still a rape machine though and has best model
>fly rape machine
>it rapes
>stop playing
>come back, fuck around, look at command ships
>god damn fucking cane model
I think CCP actually has a personal grudge against me.
I also trained into SBs because nemesis had my favorite frig hull model.

>>161594672
Just google null ratting.

>>161594550
forgetting the second bonus?

a brutix can tank well against a ferox

>>161594672 Experience.
People either say their income or compare it to 200m ISK/hour.
I never, ever see anyone compare it to anything else.

Except passive income, I guess? That's usually in PLEX/month.

>>161594550
They tried a blizzard balance style and ignored the current champ based on previous performance rather than balancing them against the new changes for the 3 other races. It worked out just as well as it does for blizzard.

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>>161594550
HAMs just aren't the same

I want my AC Cyclone back.
Also the ferox needs to be 'meh' again so I can justify fitting ACrox's for nostalgia

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>>161593836

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>>161595542

>joining nullbear blobfest f1 monkey corps

Noob getting into all manner of WH stuff and practising with solo PvP in low sec atm

Any corp/alliance suggestions for me? The finder thing is really shit and all I've come across so far as been pure, unfiltered autism

>>161594000
>>161592490
Is TEST culture like BRAVE culture?

>>161595806
Don't join huge null corps. Just look for a good group of people who talk in voip and will share your isk-earning pursuits and try to convince some to go roaming with you.

>>161596006
In the pat Brave ALWAYS undocked and took fights, balanced or not. Test were a bunch of meme spouting faggots who wouldn't come out if they didn't have numbers.

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>>161596006
The exact opposite actually

>implying theres any difference between test and /dog/ guilds
you hate them because theyre exactly like you and you hate yourselves

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>>161596250
lol dude ok. TEST were literally the turbo faggots of HERO Coalition, always crying about everything and being all around douches.

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>he never joined All-Out

>>161596510
ignore me i cant read

>Join carebear corps
>Complain when autism abounds

10/10

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>>161596182
>In the pat Brave ALWAYS undocked and took fights, balanced or not.

Yeah that got them far as they got gang raped by PL and BL (rest in peace).

>>161596510
>mfw he thinks test was the problem
>mfw BRAVE leadership

>doing epic arc
>dropping mizara's doll off to her family's asteroid mine
I didn't ask for these feels.

>>161596735
it's time to stop shit posting

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Accidentally just started a small scale war AMA

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>>161596836
It's not shitposting if it's right

>>161596949
I did this last week, feelsgoodman.
How did you start yours?
I just accepted a rookie corp invite and went ganking miners with it.
Turned the bears against each other.

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>>161597065
A few of us killed a very expensive blue minutes after a cooperation agreement had been announced. oops

>>161597203
Kek, best feeling in the game desu.
Especially when you have near plausible deniability.

Otherwise "misclick" is always good for tears.

>>161597065
Bears need to learn how it's fun to fight back. People may say otherwise but that was a good deed, anon.

>>161596735
>projecting

>>161596250
>>161596182
I'm asking because I was in BRAVE back when they were in Hek and Rahadalon and the most annoying people in leadership were all ex-TEST or claiming to be TEST alts.

>>161597339
We actually didn't mean to though, we're just that stupid, our lead FC ragequit but at least we have tons of content now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>161597350
I know for sure the bears were enjoying my content.
Had them screaming in local when I warped in.
All 24 people in system docked within 8 seconds, they had scouts camping my home.

I enjoy being Osama Bin Laden online, hence why I joined the bogeyman of CODE.
The bears may cry, but they must enjoy the excitement deep down.

Best bit was 5-6 guys chasing me around trying to stop me ganking (all of them in 80dps atrons).

>>161597559
At least is breaks the monotony of being in a "stable" corp.

>>161598107
No I wasn't talking to you. You and your friends are faggots.

What's the best race for an alpha newbro to do some exploration and PvE in? I know you can learn to pilot anything as an Omega, but alphas are stuck in their races ships, although I guess I can have 3 different races for one account's characters.

>>161599750
Gallente with drones.
Caldari may be alright as alphas.

>>161599750
for exploration it really doesn't matter. for ratting/missions you want gallente because VNI is the king of jew ships. minmatar has some decent hulls and some terrible ones, and amarr is all around shit. just dont pick amarr and you'll be a-ok.

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>not amarr

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>amarr

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>>161600532
>>161600565
What does all this Amarrposting supposed to mean?

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>his beam omen is not plate rep

Can you extract sp from an alpha if you were an omega long enough to get over the required sp ammount and keep doing it aslong as you only extract from alpha skills?

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>fly a space chicken
>corp makes fun of me

damn bullies

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>tfw trading slaves in your Sigil
Why is this so comfy?

>>161603138
>Can you extract sp from an alpha if you were an omega long enough to get over the required sp ammount
yes
> and keep doing it aslong as you only extract from alpha skills?
you can't extract alpha skills

>>161603149
>see /eog/ shitposting about space chickens
>ahaha I understand this reference
>check caldari cruisers
>no chicken carrying a briefcase
WTF, guys?

Hey guys i cant start the game on steam,when i click start just does nothing,why is this happening?

>reference

>on steam
The fuck would we know?

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>>161607151
[email protected] ask him while you're sucking his cock

>>161607151
try clicking play instead of start

>>161607151
steam should load the eve launcher. Just have patience. If it's been a while google it.

>resub indy character because it might be nice
>immediately remember that mining is awful and industry only really makes isk when you do it large scale

HELP

>>161608114
wormhole gas sucking. W-space gets the blood pumping.

red pill me on missile boat herons

>>161608818
awful

>>161608818
Your first ship?

>>161608818
Show info on caldari frigates and look at the traits tab.
Look at the Heron, look at the Condor, the Kestrel and the Merlin.
Tell me what these ships are for.

>>161609972
i know heron's arent meant to use missiles retard

i want to bait people waiting at relic sites

>>161610189
you aren't gonna kill anyone

>>161610265
what if i bring a friend

>>161610532
your friend will kill the target for you, then kill you

>>161609701
>flying mammoth

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>disrespecting the dual TD AB Web Scram Rocket Heron

If I want to be a lowsec space trucker in my Blockade Runner and also get lp should I do the grind with SoE distro missions with lowsec agents? Do you get more standing from those?

>>161611056
I'm fairly sure system sec status only affects LP and Isk rewards, not standing gains. Hauling player contracts might be more profitable than distribution missions anyway.

>>161611050
I mean its basically a functional meme.
Don't take it too far.

>>161611195
Oh yeah I'm doing that, just want cheaper ships and probes and launchers for my explorer and something to do if there aren't decent contracts as well.

>>161611050
post it my friend

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>resub to EvE
>spend two weeks fucking around not really doing anything
>crippled by indecision
>interest in continuing playing waning

Please help me

What is Thera and how do I get there?

>What is Thera
The only Trade Hub in w-space.
>how do I get there?
Cloaked.

https://www.eve-scout.com/thera/

>>161613621
BUY A NEW SHIP AND SHOOT SOME SHIT

>>161613621
>grab the careers picture from the op
>make a txt list with all those careers
>enter the list into a random list generator
>first result will be your career for a month
enjoy

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http://www.minerbumping.com/2016/12/let-them-see-real-eve.html

>>161614189
>got HS Incursions

I mean, I guess it could be worse. At least I'll have plenty of ISK so I can go die in Spectre Fleet roams.

>>161613621
Take half a billion isk and spend it on spaceship explosions. Then take another half b and spend it on spaceship explosions with friends.

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>>161614274
>Yes, it was yet another brilliant stream snipe!

>>161614784
>explosions with friends

I have no friends who play EvE

>>161614960
Look around and find a small group that enjoys making spaceship explosions and make some new friends, anon.

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>Apocalypse

>Amarr

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>>161614274
>60mil drake kill

so this is the power of CODE

wow...

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Should I drop the AB for LSE or second web?

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>>161614274
>The magic was captured on the French carebear's Twitch stream.

>Officially sanctioned versions of the Code are currently available in English, Russian, German, and Spanish.
>We're still waiting on a French translation. >We're still waiting on a French translation.

Wait, they have an actual code? Thought that was just their name.
And what's this about not having French?

>>161617817
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html

>>Test of Valour.
>Prove you are not afraid to die by Concording a valuable ship, and do so in a manner that demonstrates integrity and honesty.

>>Test of Wisdom.
>Correctly answer the Supreme Protector's Questions Three.
>Each question must be answered within 20 seconds.
>The Questions Three will be different for each miner each day.
>Note that invoking the 24 hour mining pass provision of the Code is distinct from invoking the Test of Wisdom.

>Test of Fortitude.
>Walk a mile in the Supreme Protector's shoes by becoming a miner-bumper.
>You must continue to bump miners for an indefinite period of time.

So when do you get to fight him if you pick the test of fortitude?
Do you have to bump him while he ganks people until he retaliates?

How do I make friends in this game?

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>playing with CODE.
>couple days in
>liking the vibe of Eve just being a game again
>having fun

>this morning
>talking shit on miningbumpers
>someone takes offence
>shit hits the fan
>CODE. blacklist and borderline kicked out of my corp in alliance

Welp, looks like there are cucks in all corners of this game.
Is there anyone left who just genuinely wants to have some fun, collect some tears, save some rookies, and just mad dog whatever they feel like? without being a bunch of immature children?

As if that exists, please tell me.
Everyone either seems to be autistically obsessed with order and peace, or is an edgy child that flings a shitfit anytime he doesn't get his way.
Where are the normal people who are not mindless missionbears?

>>161618230
Never, considering that if he even still plays he hasn't fought anyone since 2012.

https://zkillboard.com/character/851009929/

So I joined a newbie friendly null sec Corp but I don't have the skills to be useful on pvp yet, nor can I kill the rats on our current home. What the fuck do I do while training?

>>161618637
Ask your corp. But I suppose the fall-back answer would be mine or do exploration sites.

>>161599750
the probe is the best exploration ship but only by the smallest margins

at the end of the day they all do the same thing

For a travel fit tengu should I fit nanofibers or warp stabs?

>>161618923
you fit interdiction nullifier, covops and everything else is dedicated to getting to under 2s warp time

warp stabs are a fucking joke

>>161617218
LSE. You're not going to AB out of scram range on anyone that you'd ever get caught with a scram by.

Is this how people use the new links? Do you need someone on grid in a fleet for the burst to affect you?

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>>161619271
Are you guys not unfunny spastics?
Is your autism contained/funny?

If so, where do I sign up?
Also, what do you allow/disallow?

>>161618615
What did you expect? Join people who get in fights where people fight back. It's preferable if your group doesn't blob targets.

>>161619267
No, you don't even need to be in fleet
It just affects only you

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>>161619357
>Are you guys not unfunny spastics?
This proposition is false.
>Is your autism contained/funny?
Partially contained.

>If so, where do I sign up?
fug i dunoo XDDD
>Also, what do you allow/disallow?
Only use shit fits.
You also have to cross-post at /ss13g/
You also don't have to play ss13.
You also have to defend EVE's purity.

>>161618748
Mining is the easiest thing you can do with no skills in null. Ratting folk may not want to share the wealth when you can't pull your weight but any mining fleet should take you and give you bonuses. Don't try it alone, join the fleets and mine and travel with them for protection from rats.

Like the first anon said, exploration is also easily achievable if you drop a bit of training in it. It's good for breaking up the tedium too.

>>161618637
Horde has some belt ratting Destroyer videos on youtube

>>161619640
Shit, guess I gotta continue the link training and solo with BCs.

>>161619271
>Google Pupper Appreciation Station
>How to Get Over an Anime Addiction (with Pictures) - wikiHow

It's a sign

Why is this fucking grid stretching 6000km out of the Dodixie hub? I just want to make some instas.

>>161619267
What about dual web? Could it kill t3ds?

>>161619990
grids are 16,000km now

>>161619958
>>Figure out how much time you spend on Anime.
>Do you find yourself turning down your friends in order to watch Anime?
No friends.
>Do you spend every free minute on Anime so that you sacrifice sleep, health, and hygiene?
No.
>Does Anime affect your school performance?
Yes.
>Do you abandon other hobbies in favor of Anime?
Yes.

>>Figure out how much you are spending on your hobby.
None.

>>Determine how much you rely on Anime to be happy.
I don't, and prefer many other things.

>>Determine your emotional attachment to Anime.
>Do you feel more attached/attracted to Anime characters than real people?
If by "attraction" you mean "lust", then yeah probably?
>Have you ever gotten into a serious fight over an Anime?
No.

>Know if Anime affects your social behavior.
I know that it does not.

>>161620267 (cont.)
>Try to limit your time watching Anime.
Kind of hard to do that,
As with most activities, I go long stretch without any then binge for a day or two.

>Try to limit how many shows you watch.
Already do.

>Use Anime as a reward only.
When this is relevant, it's hard to do.
If I need to do something, I've dug myself deep enough that I can't take breaks.

>Cut back on the merchandise.
What merchandise?

>Try staying away from fansites and deleting them from your favorites.
Quick, everybody out of 4chan!

>Be able to tell reality from fantasy.
Do people seriously have trouble with this?

>Consider cutting down on your collection.
And again, what merchandise?

>Keep an eye on your behavior.
Still not an issue. Nice cringe pic though.

>Take conventions into consideration.
That's expensive and takes planning. I attend none.

>>161620137
Don't ruse me anon. I've been making them since I got back. Ships disappeared before now in other places.
>implying I wouldn't do it though
I made em to 10k regularly before these stupid depots and shit.


>>161620136
That may be overkill, anon. You've got two TEs, scram + web and at least 3 light scout drones. I'd take my first boat out with a LSE and see what happens.

>>161620619 (cont.)
>Consider finding another hobbies.
Hard to stay at them for long.

>Find another fandom to take part in.
Hard to stay at them for long.

>Spend some time with your friends.
What friends?

>Ask your friends and family to support you.
no u

>>161618615
You want WH space for that.
People have thick skin over there and the word of the day is chaos.

>>161620137
>>161620626
>google grid sizes
Oh shit, you're not even lying. Do they fucking want newbies to be camped into stations in highsec? This is bearable now because I'm in a malediction and have perfect nav skills. I wouldn't put up with this at 2.5k per second.

>>161620819
Why do you need your insta undock bookmarks to be off-grid? I always just put mine a few hundred kms out and have never had any problems.

>further googling
>min 8,000km grid
That's ~3,000 off grid BMs on gates that are fucking pointless now. Also how are we going to use BMs to catch fleets or targets dicking around off gates if they have 8,,000km to work with?

>>161620946
I'm pretty anal about BMs. I'd cum buckets if CCP simply announced folders within folders in our places page. That's not hyperbole.

I was tabbed out but 11,700km gets you off of Dodixie hub station grid, if anyone was curious.

>>161619732
Do you need APIs?
and do you have a problem with taking a new alt of a relatively seasoned player?

>fat guy on comms wont shut the fuck up about shit he is too lazy to move his fat little fingers and search for
>keeps killing our combat hype with annoying ass interjections in any moment of brief silence

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>>161621223
>tfw you're anchoring a mobile depot 11,699km from Dodixie undock to expand the grid

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>12 days with no response from CCP

>>161621471
Okay. Listen anon, I said I was anal about bookmarks and I meant it. I have never not gone at least 3k km longer after dropping the last BM of an insta chain just in case somebody was scanning or just sitting out there.

>>161618615
>joining the most cancerous corp in eve
>getting booty befuddled by them

you just got meta played you space dork.

>>161621081
yeah the grids are crazy

I was sitting at a gate that was 31k off another gate and somehow the rats were targeting me and shooting me, very annoying

also carriers have stupid long 1000km range or something silly

>not a particularly shy person IRL, got a job that revolves around talking with people
>for some reason extreme anxiety when trying to talk in comms

why is this happening to me
I thought my social anxiety days were over

my guess is english is not my native language and I rarely speak it IRL

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>Someone spergs out about how mining drones are useless because they "don't mine shit"
>My drones have 60% of the yield of my Procurer's strip miners, all things totaled

>>161622032
Just tell them that is what happens when you skill them up anon, it's not hard. You may make a friend. An annoying friend who's always bothering you is a possibility.

>>161621590
>cancerous

Nah nah, cancerous is okay, this is simply retarded.
Starting drama with your own members constantly? How does anything get done?

>>161622475
>How does anything get done?
Well, the things that are done are suicide ganking unaware newbs and random ships at gates whether they're worth the isk in catalysts spent or not. This isn't complicated stuff, anon.

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>feel bad about the state of my wallet
>drop corp
>The Scope chat is filled with poors discussing ways to run level 3 missions in their shitfit cruisers

>>161622821
Tell em to buy a gnosis.

>>161622638
I know, I am/was a part of that, but there still needs to be some level of coordination for the bigger stuff.
Which is probably why no one actually cares about CODE. on the galactic scale.

>be alpha clone
>discover exploration skinner box

Should I gas huff or concentrate on data relics?

Can someone get on the pupper recruitment channel?
At least make this into an assisted suicide instead of me joining totally of my own accord.

>>161623016
Relics sites are the biggest payout, generally.

>you can buy faction standings
>you can buy skill points via injectors
>you can buy game time

Can I buy cute outfits for my avatar?

>>161623290
yeah

> >>161623109 assisted suicide
Oh, yeah! Forgot, good luck ever
joining respectable corps afterword

>>161623290 No, it's all robo-limbs/camera-eyes and "trendy" jackets.

>>161623365
>respectable corps

I have tried those, I am willing to try Pupper before cancelling my sub and leaving for good.

>>161623359
>>161623469
Why don't they go full Tera and make swimsuits? Would sell much better than a monocle.

>>161623365
>joining respectable corps afterword
Who even cares about your corp history? If you're actually good at EVE any worth joining corp will let you in.

>>161623545
Meme spouting faggots aren't going to renew your excitement for the game, anon.

>>161622945
t.gnosis resaler

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>>161623638
>Why don't they go full Tera and make swimsuits?
The developer who had that idea deserves to be a very rich man.

>>161623709
It's the only chance I have mate, everyone else is either overly serious, or retarded.

>>161624195
https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/BHS-Elin-saved-Tera

tl;dr japan localization team requested korean tera devs to make swimsuits, devs complied, tera was saved

How do people blow up MTUs in high sec? Can you just shoot them or is there some trick to make them steal from you?

>>161624545
There'r good corps for you out there, anon, no matter what you want to do in the game. It just takes grinding to find them. Go ahead if you're down with the memes and the idiocy though and good luck.

>>161624813
Yeah I am gonna give it a go.
I don't play this game seriously enough so I doubt I would click with many other corps as well as I might with Pupper, so let's see.
Will report back to you guys if it's good/shit.

>>161624645
>Can you just shoot them
Suspect flag, not a criminal flag. CONCORD gives no fucks.
>is there some trick to make them steal from you?
Set your own MTU next to theirs to steal materials as they come in.

Are there good targets in FW space for a beam malediction that does 101 dps at 14.5km optimal?
My gunnery is perfect but missiles are only good and I do 99dps at 10km with CN rockets.
I've always wanted to make the malediction work for me solo.

I just went right to Mining Barge 1 and now I'm getting Drones 5. I just wanna min in a Procurer.

I want the EC Hornets by should I just go mining drones because im only in high sec?

Am I stupid? Only been playing for 2 weeks.

>>161626903
Mining will just make you quit in a month

>>161627125
Nope.

Eat shit fuckhead. Go tackle in your shit freighter and help your corps PvP effort LOL.

>>161627780
???

>>161627780
>freighter

>>161628245
I think he meant to type 'fighter'.

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>>161623016
alpha here too
Exploration as alpha is boring, tedious and frustrating as fuck. You CAN make 40-80 mln ISK on 1 site and 4mln ISK/site is i think minimum, BUT

1. Sometimes you wont find a non sleeper relic site in wh space for good 4 hours - it happens, bad luck. 4 hours of scanning signatures, mapping wormholes and NOTHING.

2. Constant mashing of directional scan button. I mean constant, at least when you are in wh space.

3. You arrive on first site after 4 hours of fruitless searching, cargo scanning reveals 4 cans - 1st can has 40mln worth loot, 2nd can 20mln, 3rd can 2mln and 4th can is 1mln. You fuck up the 1st can because you're short of 3 virus coherence. You fuck up the second one because of this bad boy in pic related. You could end up with 63mln worth loot, but because of bad luck and your shit alpha skills you end up with only 3mln ISK.

4. You're hacking the last can on the site which have 30mln loot inside. You already have 50mlns worth loot in your cargo hold which you collected in the last 5 hours. Hacking goes extremely well, you have high virus coherence and only few nodes left. Then on directional scan, wild caracal appears. Then probes appears. You're almost done with the hacking, just the last nodes. You know you should warp out immediately, but the greediness takes over.
Caracal warps in, kills you and you lose everything.

I made 220mln ISK exploring with my heron in 4 days. I could earn PLEX in 2-3 weeks if i continued. But fuck this, this shit is nerve wracking and soul sucking. Hit/miss high risk high reward.

>>161628602
Don't use cargo scanner. For peace of mind

>>161628602
protip: wormholes suck

use eve-scout.com and filter map by jumps in the last hour

go to areas with less than 2 jumps in hour

???

literally billions of isk

>>161628758
>le shithole system in impass face

>>161628602
This a trillion, million times.

Exploration as an alpha is POINTLESS because:
A. You MUST explore in low, null, or wormhole space to make ANY ISK whatsoever.
B. You cannot equip a cloak which is 100% necessary to survive in said space.
C. You cannot train hacking/archeology enough to have a reliable chance of beating the minigame in the added difficulty of low/null/wh
D. Even if you DID, exploration has so much fucking RNG and is based ENTIRELY on luck.

In fact, I am still trying to find some method by which alphas can reliably make some appreciable ISK. I have yet to find one.

In fact, I'm having trouble finding shit to do with my 3 year+ old omega who is stuck at about 66 mil isk.

alpha here, i started doing missions after trying out exploring, mining and FW.
>How much isk/hour can i earn doing L2 missions?
>Can i do L3 missions in Caracal? how much isk/hr?
>should i do missions for R&D agents? Should i go for datacore mining when i upgrade to omega?
>are there different items in loyalty point stores in different corps, or is it mostly the same shit?
>what are some other PvE career prospects for alphas?

>>161628853
get
fucking
good

>>161629248
It isn't a matter of getting good.
Alphas literally CANNOT train the skills needed to do exploration.

>>161628758
First you need to get to null, get to said system and dont die from gatecamps on the way. Which at peak hours with 40k players online is virtually impossible.

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Name one thing more comfy than autopilot hauling in first person cam.

Protip: You can't.

>>161629362
escorting bombers which are heading to remove an airfield at dawn

>>161629248
I got good, i scan fast af and havent died, warp out when probes appear. But THAT FUCKING HACKING MINIGAME CAN REALLY FUCKING RUIN MY DAY.

>>161629301
yes they can retard

>>161629338
you get to null by taking a WH in hi-sec to thera, then thera to empty null

then you do all the sites

but hey you guys can keep all being defeatist retards and I'll clean up all the relic sites

>>161629454
hacking minigame is the easiest shit

look up rule of 6's

>>161629496
They can't train archeology/hacking above 1, and they can't train cloaking.

Quit being a retarded faggot.

>>161629594
What? Another alpha here, I got them both to 3. Max I can.

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>he unironically believes you cannot play in low/WH without a cloak

There are people THIS BAD playing the same game as me

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>>161629594

>>161629594
hacking and archeology are capped at lvl 3, no cloaking tho

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Who else here mining life of comfort?

>>161629692
Its just 10x more of a pain in the ass to do exporation when someone is trying to kill you
Sure you can bounce safes but its very tedious

>>161629985
Feelsgoodman
Better than plebs like >>161628853
Made 250 mil in the last couple of hours just mining Prime Akanor.
Busy financing my cloaky alt so I can do jump freighting for null corps hopefully.

>>161628853
the best way to make isk for alpha is only one. Watch the war that is happening and doctrines they use, then flip the market and make Wall Street of Jita your bitch by manipulating ships market.

Don't bother playing the minerals market since some autistic fuck can play you like a fiddle. Otherwise keep ratting and mining.

Does anyone know a decent fit for wormhole camping?
Needs to be Caldari (destroyer ideally), just can't find the right configuration for dps, am I right to think of railguns? As I may need to sit slightly back from the entrance.

>>161629565
>look up rule of 6's
care to explain? I thought it was based entirely on luck.

>>161630418
How exactly are you farming prime arkanor, in null sec, without cloak?

What is a good Logi ship for a guy who just wants to be a helpful bro?

Do logis have good ehp or do they die hard? I love Minmatar fyi

>>161630452
I thought about trading career, its neat. I would need about 100m to start right?
>Watch the war that is happening and doctrines they use
For that i would need to know how entire PvP game mechanic work. I dont know much about this game.

>>161630934
Gallente is solo armor rep
Minmatar is solo shield rep
Amarr is cap chain armor rep
Caldari is cap chain shield rep

Caldari logi's are not used very often iirc because the mobile nature of shield fleets making the cap chain a liability

T1 logi is fairly squishy and tens to get alphaed pretty quick depending on the size of the engagement

>>161630678
>entirely on luck
fucking. asda;sdas;ldjasd.

Every time you uncover a node it tells you a number. That number indicates the radius of how far away a friendly tool, a white-node, or the system core is away.

the rule is 6's is that any node that is surrounded on all 6 sides by another node, is safe in the middle. guaranteed to contain no virus or node or tool. nothing. it's a free space. the only caveat to this is, if you DO encounter a virus, then the system core is right next to it. easy.

no wonder /eog/ says alpha exploration is impossible, they don't understand the nuances of it

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Working on this a bit. Could this hit armor t3ds? Loses a bit dps by taking out the 4th gyro but more tracking should be more applied actual damage.

Also wtf soothsayer. I could probably kite with this.

Can I switch to AB on this?

>>161630678
Any node with 6 connections is almost always safe, if its not safe, one of the adjacent nodes WILL be the core.

>>161631149
just use a rapid light drake breh

>>161631236
It doesn't have 1k dps

>>161628853
be gallente and rat with a VNI