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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

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>>161131090
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My Dantalian came out weird, please advise
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>>161560145
Looks like you're doing something right to me
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Why did you lazy faggots let the thread die without making a new one?
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>>161560973

Bloom and fall
Fall and bloom
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Reminder to add the new Recommended Reading pastebin
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX


>>161553289
Well, the OP pastebins are made for new people getting into the series and as a reference point for regulars, so it's not surprising that you already know about them. But not every newcomer will know right away that there are real megaten books for example; and while the Bible is a given, other books like Seraphita, The Master and Margarita, or All My Friends Are Dead are not so obvious,

Having said that. I kinda wanted to add a few more entries, and also noticed some recommendations in the thread... but I'm not knowledgeable enough to find legit and safe download links for them.

And damn, the last pastebin was made in 2013. Some of the older links are already dead :(
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>apocalypse
>join Merkabah
>thought it was going to be like the other joke choices
Fuck. So is this really to join Law for the Law ending? If so, can someone give me the run down for this?
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>>161562981
is a joke, a joke ending you dip
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>>161562981
Same shit as SMT IV with a extra line saying it wouldn't last forever because of Shesha Flynn
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>>161563042
>>161563138
Oh I see. Do I get something for playing through them?
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>>161563343
You unlock extra items and new DDS titles for SMTIV-3.
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>>161563572
I thought the next SMTIV title is a go kart game?
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>>161563787
We're getting a dancing game next.
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Hoy.
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>>161569168
Hoy
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/r/megaten is good if you can handle reddit still being the gutter that catches 4chan runoff. That said, I like this place better because we can't get banned for calling some teenaged sperg an autismal fedora tipping faggot for regaling us with his gay fanfic or trying to start a religious fight (well a gay religious fight. If you whip the fedoras and the religious fags into shape civil chats are possible but you absolutely need insults and mockery to weed out the shitters) Plus, benefits of anon are immense.

>>161563343
DDS titles and the benefit of clearing the game without having to fucking play the awful final dungeon.

That said anyone who would abort the game two dungeons before the end just for a DDS title is mad. It's not a quick replay.

DDS titles are this games cheevo list though.
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It's good to see their done with side games after Apocalypse and going back to the main series with Persona 5
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>Yamato goes super saiyan
>combat range of 5
>two actions per turn
>two attacks per action
>full heal and MP regen after every fight
>Megiddo inexplicably powerful only when enemies use it
Sad clown man.jpg
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Where are the smt virtual console injects
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>>161570559
You mean SMTV
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>>161488749
Its not very long, like 15-30 pages, someone could crowdfund a translation for it. I don't think it will ever be officially translated.
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Fucking fuck Medusa stupid bitch keeps fuckin smirking my ass yo.
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>>161570693
why? Running a standard HBC emulator is safer and requires less effort
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>>161570360
/r/megaten is downvote central if you even attempt to talk about anything other than persona, that place is cancer.
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>>161573548
In their defense Persona is the future of SMT.

Also when I last dropped in yesterday the entire front page was Apocalypse with one or two weebsona posts.
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>>161570360
r/megaten just thinks they're cool because Atlus reps will go shitpost meme faces when they beg for a game translation

meanwhile here we harness dark energy and meme magic into summoning demons while we jerk off to complex dungeon maps
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>>161573462
I just want to fill my n3ds library screen anon.
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>>161573858
>In their defense Persona is the future of SMT.
What did he mean by this?
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>>161573860
If fatlus shitposted here we would love them don't lie.
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>>161574018
No we wouldn't

I'd tell them to hire somebody who fucking speaks English to QC their "translations" and stop being shitters and give us Debisama already and ask them to make more games
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>>161573858
>Persona is the future of SMT
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>>161574183
We would do that and still love them.
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>>161574324
Don't turn away from it. You know it's right. Face out. Hold out. Reach out to that truth anon
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>>161575335
How about I reach up your ass
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>>161575335
Kiss my ass.
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>>161573986
It's him again.
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SMT x Panty & Stocking Season 2
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Are we allowed to post Persona 1 and 2 here? We all know no one in /pg/ has ever even touched them
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>>161576087
They're generally more accepted, but I don't think everyone is going to be ultra psyched about it.
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>>161576087
Sure
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>>161576087
Yes, because we're not plebs.
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>>161575759
bill?
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>>161576256
>>161576297
>>161576307
Is armor generally worth buying? Shit's kinda pricey for an SMT game (especially considering I have five people to outfit) but I haven't found much in the way of treasure since entering the alternate dimension.
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>>161576551
You'll get a shitload of money pretty fast
I entered the final dungeon with about 1.5M Yen.

Only uses for money I recall are:
Buying equipment
Buying SP and recovery items
Buying coins in the casino to earn game-breaking shit
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SMT is for casuals.
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>>161576335
Bring more Macca next time.
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HEE
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>>161580234
hoy
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>>161573089
>he had trouble with Medusa
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Can someone explain to me why Atlus hate's Australian SMT fans so much?

Why would they delay Apocalypse for another week? Is this something to do with censorship? Maybe change some dialogue cause we're such a fucking nanny state.
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>>161582426
It's nothing personal. They hate Australians in general not just Aussie SMT nerds.

Everyone hates Aussies.
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>>161573089
SMT4 is pachinko not a real game.
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So I'm 11 hours into SMT IV and This is my first real SMT game (I played Persona 1, 3, and 4) any tips because I suck super bad.
I'm at medusa right now and I was getting my ass kicked earlier.
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>>161584887
Fuse something that resist gun
Fuse demons with Force spells
Don't have anything weak to Zio spells
Git gud
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>>161585387
Thanks <3
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>>161585662
By the way game gets much easier once you're pass Medusa.
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>>161577173
Filthy Jew.
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Right, so persona gen is a dumpster fire, so I'm gonna ask here.

How important is progress in tartarus? I'm having trouble making headway, as junpei and yukari seem to like taking turns being tired. I'm on floor 5 right now.

Should I wait for them to get better, or go in with just two people and try to make the best of it?
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You'll have to climb it all eventually, and you need to travel all floors in the latest sector each month.
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>>161589570
Progress is important, but it's not forced onto you until the last day of the game.

Let them rest since levels are more important than progress.
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>>161590325
Well okay.

It's just that it's almost the end of April (4/27).

And I'm still only on floor 5.
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>>161589570
you should do all available floors in one night
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>>161589570
Always try to reach the highest floor available before a full moon, and don't worry, you have plenty of time to do it. As you keep progressing you will be able to do it in a single night.

I wouldn't recommend exploring Tartarus so early in the game with only two people, leave that until you have better Personas and items. As you progress, people will take longer to get tired.

Another protip is that you should NEVER explore Tartarus while you're tired, since you'll do a piss poor performance and it is easier for enemies to crit you.
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>>161590498
You should be worrying about the bosses and your level, not the progress.

I don't know if you've been told this, or if you're too silly to figure it out, but there's a reason that "X days until full moon" is there.

Just let your party members rest and do as much tartarus when you can.
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>>161590735
>>161590993
Oh

I'm at level 5 right now, I just fused myself a nekomata.

And I got a couple weeks I guess until the next full moon. I guess that's enough time.
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>>161591136
Sure.

You always explore the dungeon at night, so it's not like it affects your schedules or anything. And whenever you don't go to Tartarus you can study to boost academics, or sleep early for better chances of recovering from fatigue/sickness.
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>>161591420
yes it does the night time is crucial to increase your social stats
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>>161584887
The important thing to remember is that smirk is bullshit and SMT4 is random bullshit the game.

The other thing is that buffs and debuffs stack -3 to +3 and don't wear off. Many fights are buff wars with a side of combat late game.

Another thing, one demon in the area will evolve into something immune to every attack Medusa does. I forget what though and that takes one or so more levels than is "natural". So you might need to knock heads around there.

Finally Medusa is the last hard boss in the game.
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>>161591420
>not like it affects your schedules
It gets in the way of best social link for best persona.
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>>161591772
>>161591896
I ran out of S-links to do at night by the beginning of the winter break, and I was not even using guides.

It's still cool though, because I got the chance to boost the stats of my nigga Odin with the arcade games.
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>>161591896
Monk >> Tanaka
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>>161592227
Dying young man > Tanaka > Monk
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So basically.

- Go to Tartarus whenever I have a full party
- Go as far as I can

That about cover it?
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>>161593097
Pretty much.
You get a reward if you get to the top of a block in a certain number of days too.
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help anons how do I beat mem aleph
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>>161593047
Gaaaaayyyyy
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>>161593097
I always go up until I reach the block gate in a single night so I can spend the whole month doing night S-links or boosting stats.
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>>161595062
Use demons of different alignments. Get the Dragon Ring. Be sure every demon nulls light and dark. Buff/debuff only to plus 1. Get concentrate from maya and dantalion and megidolaon the shit outta her.
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waifu bump!
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>>161598215
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>>161598215
With all these Mother demons givng birth to countless babby demons, I've gotten curious
Who was the the dad?
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>>161598902
good ol' yellowface
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>>161596098
But don't your party members get tired?

Or do they just stop getting tired after awhile?
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>>161570667
>yfw the chuuni is actually as powerful as he thinks he is
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How do I beat Gore???
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Is Demi-Fiend a midget?
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>>161602562
Stop playing Persona and git gud.
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>>161599579
They stop getting tired as fast when you level up and progress through the game, it becomes real easy to steamroll though a block.
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>>161598902
Me and my past lives.
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https://youtu.be/4vYnpdyTqjg
Post a better remix
you cant
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>>161602562
restart the game and go neutral
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So I just beat SMT1 and now I've moved onto 2.

How do I horribly break the game?
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>>161605758
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>>161602562
have a fast demon with reflect spells
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>>161605758
Recruit human enemies and fuse them with demons to create a randomly generated demon that is sever levels higher than you but can still fuse and control.

>>161606385
is this real or just some edit?
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>>161561661

Put hesiod's theogony in the section for greek
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>>161602761

Well he is like 15
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>>161608556
your mom is like 15
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>>161596098

They get tired when you're done. As long as you keep going in a single night you'll suffer no drawbacks of them getting fatigued.
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Thread's theme
https://youtu.be/f34_4xDprOM
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>>161611047
English translation when
;_;
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Is Apocalypse much more difficult than 4 or am I just playing badly? Playing on War, and am on King Frost. Even though I'm level 13 with about 50 points in magic, my Agi only does a modest amount of damage. Can't outrace him in damage, and the damage he does with the smirk + Mabufula is too much to heal, even when using Navarre to buff. The only thing I can think to do differently was that I had a demon with a skill to remove smirk, but I got rid of it because I thought it was worthless. This seems to be much harder than 4's opening, and not just due to random chance.
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>>161610865
Wrong. They get tired on their own and depending on their level.

They ask you if they can leave once they get tired, but you can force them to stay with you.
This is an awful strategy though, because tired party members (including your MC) are useless and vulnerable. You might as well go back to the main floor and invite other members of the team even if they are underleveled. Since even them have better chances of survival than a tired party member.
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>>161611385
Hm, maybe I'm thinking of 4, or the protagonist getting tired.
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>>161611243
Welp, now you realise that Magaon is not worthless. You better get that Angel back, and also make a good Napaea that spams Agi for you.
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>>161612031
Nah, they removed that mechanic among many others in P4.

You just forgot or something.
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>>161612110
Is that a skill that is worthwhile for the entire game or just this one fight? I didn't expect the game to have a fight this early that requires a specific strategy. As far as I know in 4 there was never any need to significantly tailor your party to an encounter.
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>>161612449
record scratch battle
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>>161612796
What?
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>>161612449
Magaon will stay relevant for the same reason buff cancelling will always stay relevant. Smirks will continue to create free crit + press turns for enemies leading to high chance of getting fucked. On a particular late-game bossfight, I would say that the reason I lost my first attempt was because I did not have enough MP at one point to cast Magaon.

I'm not going to say that you should always make sure to have it with you or anything, like you gotta track that shit down in all cases, but it absolutely has value as a skill.
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>>161613156
*record scratch*
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>>161613156

I wouldn't worry about what that post is talking about if you are at all concerned with spoilers.
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>>161613302
I always kept Magaon for the evolutions of Angel, so it wasn't such a hassle, and it comes in handy whenever the rare boss or encounter got a smirk.
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>>161613302
Of course smirks will be a problem when an enemy has them, but how many enemies can consistently smirk as easy as casting a spell on themselves? It's not the same as having debuff skills since they can be used consistently in every fight.
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>>161613659

Demons can gain smirk through combat initiative, player hitting a resistance, picking some options in boss fights and I'm pretty sure Smile Charge shows up on random enemies every so often.

Granted if they get smirk through combat initiative there's probably nothing the player can do about that before they use it, unless they use another buff skill or something. But that would also be a situation that has "oh shit" written all over it.
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>>161613934
What I mean is how common is Smile Charge or similar skills? It's much easier to just take a demon that isn't weak to the boss, or remember not to hit a resistance, than carry Magaon with me all the time just in case.
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>>161614163

Well, yeah, I'm not saying you should always have it with you, just that when fusing it shouldn't go immediately on the dropped skill list. It's worth considering if you can squeeze it in
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>>161614163
I never bothered with magon until the final boss, I usually just make sure my team has defense buffed and the enemy's attack lowered so smirks don't fuck me us too badly.
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>>161614386
Okay then for now I'll just have to remake the angel and level it up again. Just annoyed that I have to do all this for one skill for just this boss, especially so early. Thanks.
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>>161614163
Also even if the plan is to bring demons that aren't weak to the boss that can require either prior knowledge, multiple attempts, or a lot of shuffling around for each phase and as you reveal more of their skill list. Plus even after all that a critical hit can just cause one naturally.

A smirk doesn't always equal death, of course, and not every smirk would justify using magaon if you even had it, but if you try and bring it periodically you'll probably find a use.
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>>161612449
In 4A, Magaon is a gear check for two fights, the first boss and the final boss. Nowhere else is it hugely useful as no other boss has a smirk-themed gimmick.

That said, if you hold onto it, you will not regret having it in the rare times you could use it.

There are a lot of gimmick bosses this time around rather than SMT4 style RNG smirkfests that die in three turns but those two are the only walls.

That said, there's a certain demon you might want to consider fusing and then keeping for most of the game... Alice
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>>161616448
Also the final boss is also King Frost. At the end of the universe, he is revealed to be the true mastermind of all the suffering and evil in this world because you kicked him out of the pool.
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Why is going full retard STR always the best in SMT games? I guess the games try to teach us that magic for the protags is for pussies.
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SMT4 Law End: Kill everyone to create a paradise
SMT4A Massacre End: Kill everyone to create a paradise

really makes you think
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
vote
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>>161619195
So... law... was actually... neutral all along... whoa...
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>>161619404
where is persona? Persona is the main series. SMT is the side series.
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>>161619404
https://youtu.be/zlJrEwEMIpM
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>>161619521
you're about to be my side series if you know what I mean
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>>161619708
Bill?
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>>161619404
>people think Nocturne is better than 4A
shit taste itt
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>>161619195
>"paradise" where everyone is a slave to the angels and has to worship YVHV 24/7
>actual paradise where humanity is forever free from gods and YVHV himself and can walk their own path in their new universe
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>>161621451
>chaosfags actually believe this
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>>161619404
>strange journey 2nd place
The only good thing about it is locked on NG+
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>>161621451
>forever
>Stephen literally says gods can cross universes to pick a fight and says his waifu goddess is coming for you
>implying Stephen will let his waifu lose
nanashi is kill
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>Demi-fiend
It makes your brain neurons work
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>>161622138
Nanashi has Flynn and his goddess to protect him, also all the other humans now with superpowers will also join to protect their universe. Besides she can't even do jack shit without having a bitch ass messiah to do the dirty work for her.
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>>161622414
It's like looking at different flags for clans and figuring which one is the most retarded.
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>>161622660
Nanashi couldn't do jack shit either without Fagda fixing everything for him.

And Tokyo will have Stephen and several messiahs.

This is SMT bro. You don't get a happy ending.
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Is there an easy way to grind for Macca in IV? I just want my Demonica already
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>>161625960
buy the dlc only 4.99 goyim
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>>161625230
Well if anything he'll just replace Demi-Fiend as a secret option boss in a future game
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>>161619404
You know the results will always be pretty much the same, right?

Why bother? Everyone's going to vote Nocturne anyways. Do something different.
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In IV, does Infernal Tokyo still have a dome above it?
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>>161626982
Everything is still dark, so yes.

But I think the top of the dome in Infernal Tokyo is literally God's paradise instead of just another country.
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How do I make Zoma useful?
>fuse it with demons with good stats
>ends up having shit skills
>remake it using a demon with good skills
>has shit stats because it apparently takes the average of the dolly's shit stats and the demon's
>lose the useful skills if I try to fuse it further to improve stats

I've discovered one Hero and one General fusion so far. But the General dude seemed to affect demon negotiations, resulting in a couple of demons outright refusing to join because the General was in my party.
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>>161619404
I'm curious. Why is Strange Journey in second place?

I'm playing it right now as my first SMT. I'm having a good time and all but not "wow this is amazing".
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>>161627315
I think it is still Mikado, record scratch wouldn't start his paradise until he killed everyone in Tokyo.
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>>161628886
I just use mine as a healer
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>>161628928
Because SMT I and II aren't really that great gameplay wise.

Then you have IV which has unbalanced and broken gameplay. And finally Apocalypse, which has god-tier gameplay but shit-tier setting, story and characters; which really damages it because it is a story-heavy game.
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>>161629129
Hmm.

So Strange Journey just has pretty good everything?

I can buy that.

I do hope the story kinda picks up. Although, I guess I'm only in the third sector.
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>>161629186
It will pick up if you go neutral.
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>>161629115
That's what I ended up with as well. But I'd really like to have a strong physical attacker with me when I go through the dungeons, in case I encounter magic resistant enemies.
Of course, I could always have Nemissa use Megido, but I'm trying to converse SP.
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>>161622108
plebshit detected
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>>161565492
>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Dancing All Apocalypse
>Lucifer styles all over Merkabah, because the latter refuses to engage in 'the movements of filth'
>The various Frost demons form a idol group
>Aleph vs YHVH rematch
>Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
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>>161563787
>>161565492
Didn't you hear? We're getting a remake of Strange Journey Doom style
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Playing Strange Journey for the first time.

What're some necessary things to know/forget going in?
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>>161631502
Trust him
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>>161631502
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Keisuke hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOpD0y8dSjI
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Why do all the MP healing items in Apocalypse suck so much?
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Are the Majin/Megami Tensei games worth playing?
Aside from the 3DS games, I've played almost every translated SMT game, and yet I cannot escape my hunger.
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>>161631405
I'd be down for that. Sounds awesome.
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>>161631405
Why isn't there a SMT wad yet?
Considering the crazy shit people have pulled off with doom modding, it should be more than possible.
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>>161625960
where can u buy a demonica bro
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>>161631502
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>>161627315
It's dark because the universe is dark cause chaos.

Also all the smoke from the constant fires.
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>Europoor
>Apocalypse gets to the e-shop yesterday
>Decide to wait for phisical, that suppousedly releases today
>Go to the store
>Everything is pokemon
>Ask the cashier
>She tells me it doesn't release until december 9
Someone is lying to me. How long do I have to wait for the fucking game? Why delay the retail release an entire week when the e-shop already has it?
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>>161625230
Nanashis sweet magic powers exist separate from Dagda, and now he has sweet Creator Powers. Godslayer Sword is also Masakado's Katana, which he uses to cut Krishna down.

It will only have several messiahs if things get really shitty, and even then whether they're actually able to make a difference or not is if they belong in shit tier like Flynn and Hero or the gets shit done tier with Aleph, Nanashi, and Demi-Fiend.
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>>161631502
There's a really helpful angel in the game. He even helps you out of a prison
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>>161631502
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>>161638871
>aleph
>failed utterly to stop YHVH
>soul tormented for eternity
>gets shit done
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>>161633234
Why are lawfags always the biggest hypocrites?

At least this game has Amane though, who happens to be one of, if not the best lawfag of the whole franchise.
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>>161642417
>playing the Persona of SMT
>having disdain for our lord
pleb
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>>161628886
I think you're supposed to to fuse the same demon into it over and over to get the stats up to that demons level.

For the most part it's a goofy mechanic hacked into a goofy game that is only slightly less imbalanced than SMT4. You only need it if you need a sixth warm body for a boss.
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>playing the Dark Souls of Persona
>sucking the dick out of the man who demands dick sucks free of charge
Moron!
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>>161629186
Least bad everything more like.
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>>161573858
terrible defense, I stand by my post. There's even a separate sub for Persona yet everyone posts their weeb garbage in /r/megeten anyway, the whole sub is waifu posts and people thinking they're funny (they aren't). Everyone there is the kind of SMT fan that makes me so glad that this general exists.
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>>161642417
Where is the hypocrisy?
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>>161573939
Thought you were talking about Wii homebrew, my mistake. Carry on.
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>>161642664
meant for
>>161642569
My bad, homeys.
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>>161629129
4A is probably the best SMT gameplay has been If you don't count TMS#FE and closest it's gonna get to EO-level gameplay quality.

Shame about the plot though But it's not THAT much worse than 4's plot
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>>161642806
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>>161642417
>You hate people who use violence so you should never use violence
-- someone who will die the next time he meets someone who uses violence
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>>161642569
>hating on DeSu
Casual identified
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>>161642417
Because lawfags have standards and nobody else does. Can't be a hypocrite without standards.
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>>161570693
pls
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>>161643007
>Playing DeSu
Personafag identified
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>>161642925
Killing in self defense is not the same as going on a crusade to kill people you don't like.

>>161642778
Kaido's point is that a lawfag like Keisuke is nothing but a blood thirsty killer, but he can't admit it. He is a hypocrite who justifies the bloodshed with a holier than thou attitude.
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I just killed all my friends. Are there any bosses with physical resistance left or should I just forget about awakened power?
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I am currently playing my second SMT game, SMT 4, and i ran into this little spider demon which is lvl 45 called ???

I tried googling but im still not getting any answers. What is that thing?
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>>161642742
Autistic screeching every time Persona is mentioned even once is not a good look.
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>>161643842
SMT
>the different routes play almost the same way, and only have some new pieces of dialogue
>the alignment you choose can add a boss or two, or removes them all together

DeSu
>all routes are crammed with content and different missions
>has lots of different dialogues for the routes
>you can even choose what path you want to take depending on the various instances you agreed with someone, instead of being forced into an alignment because you were a nice guy or an asshole

DeSu1 is a better SMT than the SMT series itself.
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>>161645501
Oh nvm, found it
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>>161645576
redditors moonlighting on 4chan isn't a good look either.
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>>161642196
YHVH being dead allowed peace for a much longer time than if he didn't.

In the grand scheme of things it's not a blink of an eye though, but it's still longer than anything Flynn or Hero achieve themselves, even if he suffers way worse for choosing.
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>>161645790
I very much disagree, but my opinion is my own. You are entitled to yours, hombre.
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>>161646228
>it's over in the blink of an though
Basically he got shit done, but it doesn't matter as much as Nanashi or Demi-Fiends does. Sorta a middle ground.
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>>161642196
>mere human and his companion
>beat YHVH without the help of any other deities and without demonizing him
>can't get shit done
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>>161645064
Keisuke is killing those who harm others in the lockdown. He is overdoing it, sure, but he is definetely better than Kaido, who is just a selfish douche.
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>>161645576
Which is something that doesn't happen here as long as you aren't shitposting with Persona. We even had a civil conversation about P3 yesterday.
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>>161646228
It's still futile and meaningless. It would only take a couple of years for YHVH to return.

Flynn can create an everlasting paradise in Mikado if he kills himself and all the filth. That's not bad and lasts longer than anything Aleph managed.
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>>161645462
>choosing bad ending
Gay

Also awakened power gives bonus damage. And the final boss resists all. You'd be a moron not to take it.
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>>161647302
>Everlasting peace
>Believing Jon the Lawfags delusional lies.
Everlasting peace is an illusion. The universe is constantly in flux, old gives way to new. It's the Law the Axiom, which stands above what YHVH dictates.

Not to mention when YHVH gets bored he'll just turn them all into demons, and they're already on their way because they've started making new culture like false idol statues of Flynn.
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>>161647087
Exactly, I very much enjoy the discussion here, and I do not screech about Persona when it comes up. /r/megaten on the other hand, does not 'discuss' things at all, pic very much related.
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Is it me who's lost it, or the school? Sensei, take a good look at me. This wound on my lip, the bruise on my face. I got the crap beaten out of me by Kondo from the karate club. Takamizawa Kyoko is just as guilty. The school just lets wild animals like that run free, and doesn't do anything to deal with them. No matter what happens to me in the classroom, the teachers and students just pretend it didn't happen. The violence that happens in this school is as plain as day, and yet nobody gets punished. I suppose the teachers are just waiting for students like that to graduate. As long as they keep their eyes shut, the calamity will just clear itself up on its own. They just have to endure it for two or three years.But this is the only time I get to be a high school student. I'm not going to let them just do whatever the hell they want any more. I'm going to summon a demon and execute those annoying insects.
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>>161648306
Did >>161648024 hurt your feeling redittard?

Just go back to where you belong instead of ridiculing yourself here.
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>>161648423
What the fuck are you talking about? >>161648306 was my first post in the thread
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>>161648548
You do know that all the cool boys here have extensions that tell us when a new IP shows up, right?

You didn't have a new IP.
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>>161648659
Then I probably posted here yesterday. Still, what drove you to go off on me like that?
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>>161648785
Lust.
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>>161642742
This is incorrect.

The whole sub isn't waifu posts.

People thinking they're funny is definitely a redditard thing though.
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>>161648983
No one likes that sub, you don't need to defend it, unless they're paying you in macca or something.
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SMT x Rance when?
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Would Inanna's scene in the cosmic egg be better if there was less Toki, and more birthing?
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Hoy.
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>>161626978
It is my eternal duty to post the poll on every /SMTG/ thread
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>>161629041
>>161627315
Akira is Aquila, so Mikado doesn't exist in Infernal Tokyo.
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>>161664876
If there's no dome, why wasn't Infernal Tokyo nuked like Blasted Tokyo?
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>>161665405
There is a dome, just no Mikado
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>>161665405
The Angels were killed so the nukes never happend. People guessed it was God's Wrath/Plan/Scheme in IVA and Blasted, they were right.
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>>161665725
There isn't. It's all the smoke from random fires darkening the sky.

Just like the Cocoons never ascended so the kids inside rotted away.
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Also its pointed out by an NPC in both Blasted and Infernal Tokyo being shit was likely the same in America and China.

300 million people were still alive after the nukes hit as the IVA notes mention.
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>>161666802
>the Cocoons never ascended so the kids inside rotted away.
:(

F
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>>161669043
We always knew this. A Demonoid in Shinjuku Park and Akira lost someone Kenji tried to save, but failed to reach them in time

It likely happend to the rest of the world too as Ancient of Days revealed there were numerous Cocoons from across the world.
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Would you?
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>>161635607
Lazyness
Seriously we just need some sprites and put some music and we got it
Sadly, not a lot of people know how to do it
So fuck shit never ever
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>>161669379
Not Skrillex enough.
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>>161669379
No way. Can't you see that he's smirking?
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What are you faggots doing now that apocalypse is out

Since there is no new SMT game in sight
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>>161670073
You'll see when I finish.
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>>161670073
Playing Apocalypse, also playing Fallout 4 (babby's first WRPG, it's pretty alright), also playing lots of Famicom.
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>>161642807
>EO-level gameplay quality.
You what? The friend system breaks the game and the whole thing only has one area you could actually call a dungeon.

>>161670073
Haven't finished EOV yet.
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>>161670431
Which just goes to show how bad SMT is at this usually.

The friend system doesn't break the game any worse than you can break every other fricken SMT game.

And I hope you're calling the egg the dungeon and not YHVH's sleep inducer
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>>161670073
Playing TMS#FE on Lunatic now as well as 7th Dragon Code VFD.
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>>161672340
>YHVH's sleep inducer
Just as planned.
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>>161672631
>YHVH
>capable of planning anything
lol
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>>161672767
he planned you, heathen
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>>161602761
>being a fiendlet
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>>161670073
Citra got gud so playing persona q
Played two playthroughs of IV on it but hell if I want to do the leveling the third time.
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>>161602761
Wait where is this from?? Is SJ protagonist finally getting love in mainline???
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>>161672767
He planned for it to be a testament to His Glory.

That it's a boring snoozefest shows his lack of creativity and that he was more concerned with making it big enough so he float around in.

It's just big enough he has space to move around above the ground.
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>>161674791
Just an edit, Japan hates Strange Journey because it doesn't take place in their precious Tokyo. Fuck those xenophobic nips, to me Space Marine is canonically an American and is OUR game.
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>>161675619
doesn't Jimenez say a fellow American?
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>>161675738
Mexico is in America.
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Apocalypse is 40 fucking eurodollars.
Go fuck yourself Atlus USA, you're not getting away with that tip of yours.
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>>161675591
No. He deliberately made it as boring as posssible to deter anyone from trying to reach him.
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>>161675937
>$65 AUD
>$5 less than the average console/PC game
Fuck the Atlus tax.
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>>161675738
Gore did
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>>161675738
Gore is Japanese.
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>>161675738
>>161675619
MC is Japanese though, you know?
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>>161676601
that nigga aint japanese
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>>161677080
Only in Japanese version.
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>>161676294
It can be both. It is mentioned to be intentionally vague.
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>>161677080
Only in the Japanese version just like if SJ was released in Europe their MC would be European.
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>>161677289
Hahaha fucking Europoors
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>>161677289
Now I know you're messin around, there's no way ATLUS would release SMT games in Europe
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>>161677473
Apocalypse released today here.
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>>161677473
That's why I said if
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>>161674537
3DS emulation is real? Fuck yes
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>complaining about the price
>not having a hacked 3DS
>paying for vidya ever
Casuals ITT

They'll probably buy the grind DLC
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>>161679049
How to get DLC demons in hacked
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>>161679976
We used to share the whole DLC back when 4A first came out. Don't have it handy but it's definitely something you can download.
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why is sera so cute bros?
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>>161681470
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>>161679049
But where is EU cia?
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Should i replay Soul Hackers or Apocalypse? I cant decide
I have to finish persona q too
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Hi, /smtg/. I have a problem that's not directly related to Megaten games/manga, but I don't think /v/ or /pg/ know enough about Megaten to help me out.

I know that this is going to sound incredibly autistic, but I cannot function in social settings unless I imagine myself as a Megaten character. No, I don't go around saying "Hee-ho!" or try to summon demons or anything. I just feel myself with the overall demeanor of a Megaten character. I can pass off as a normie well with this.

I choose Megaten characters that already compliment my personality. My main 3 are Demi-fiend (When I'm feeling quiet but confident), YHVH (When I'm feeling a bit smug/cocky) and Nanashi (When I'm feeling a bit edgy). I also have a rotating list of Megaten characters that I can use. I've done Jack Frost, Yuriko, Metatron, Magatsu-Izanagi, Oni, Angel, etc...

But my problem is, I have a Christmas party with my co-workers tonight, and I'm not sure which Megaten character I should be. I want to be a bit more outgoing and talkative than usual, but not TOO much. I had a bad experience with Mastema this spring, when I got a bit TOO confident, so I don't want to use him. I'd like to try a SMTIV:FINAL character, but I'm not sure which once. I like Cleopatra, but I feel like she would make me come across as an autist. I was actually thinking about Raidou, but his chances of being in a new game hurts her a bit.

Do you guys have any ideas for a Megaten character that would be sociable and confident, but not too much so?
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>>161681942
>No on ever talks about Raidou or DDS on /v/

I'd understand Raidou because It used to be hard as fuck to obtain,but not DDS.
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>>161685162
Are you Doppelganger?
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>Do you guys have any ideas for a Megaten character that would be sociable and confident, but not too much so?
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>>161685162
so what copypasta is this edited from
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>>161685673
I haven't actually tried doppelganger yet. I think he might work well.
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I'm about to face down Polaris in DeSu2. Any build I need before going on other than Multistrike+Pierce?

>>161682958
PQ.

Soul Hackers is great but it's not fun at all.
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>>161685162
Still going at it, Rediturd?

Shameful.
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>>161687995
Why is this conversation even here other than to make anon feel as awkward as the girls he asked out and got turned down by?
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>>161687995
I know that this is supposed to be the peak of Toki's arc, but they way the whole thing was executed made it feel like Inanna was speaking in Toki's voice to seduce Nanashi.
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>Enjoying everything about IV:A so far
>find out some pics online about a dlc
>it looks like a "going to the beach" filler episode of your generic moeblob harem anime

I-It's a joke right? That's not the actual dlc
They're just making fun of it right? It's not a major plot of it, right? SMT isnt turning into the garbage that Persona is....

RIGHT???
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>>161689526
Mainline is turning into Persona in order to attract newer audiences. Normies don't care about the Law, Neutral, and Chaos conflict; the want a life simulator set in the backdrop of Post Apocalyptic Tokyo.
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>>161689526
>They're just making fun of it right?
You can literally skip the DLC by telling Mephistopheles to fuck off.
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>>161689669
Future Persona of mainline is the
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>>161689526
Persona is the future of SMT.

That DLC includes a mollusk cumming all over Asahi.
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>>161689669
>Normies don't care about the Law, Neutral, and Chaos conflict;
Do we even care? 4A just said "lol law and chaos are both just YHVH and YHVH doesn't want anything but to see humans suffer but not even in the fun way like he's playing Rollercoaster Tycoon more in the way that we wrote ourselves into a corner trying to continue off SMT4."
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>>161690251
Persona SMT future the is of
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>>161690251

>SMT is turning into persona

The Whites were right... ending it all was the only way to save us...

>>161689759
kek

also

I need to fix something


I like everything about it so far EXCEPT

Asahi
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>>161690251
no idols are the future of SMT.
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>>161690717
Fire Emblem is the future of SMT!
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>>161690773
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>>161690597
I thought pascal the imouto was at her worst when getting thirsty and competing with Toki. Thank god she wasn't present when Toki turned into Inanna because that scene would've been annoying as fuck
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>>161690893
Even though the game was mediocre as fuck I'd still put it in
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>>161691054
I thought the game was okay, and the only thing holding conquest back was Corrin not killing of Hans in Cheve
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>>161689039
I'm a sucker for lines like that, I loved it. Even though I hated most of the party interactions.
>So please... Save me too.
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>>161691540
>going massacre
gay
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>>161691540
Too bad I never liked Toki beyond horde killer. Inanna really stole the show.
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>>161691687
>not going massacre
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>>161691687
bondsfag pls
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>>161691739
If Toki whiffed a horde instakill you were stuck with a worse version of Gaston or Nozomi.
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>>161691839
Why was Adramelech so based?
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>>161690251
>impliying that you will not cum over asahi
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>>161691839
>tfw you use asahi as a human shield
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>>161692109
Because being fabulously gay or being an animu waifu is the only personality you are allowed to exhibit in SMT.
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>>161692135
Kinda ironic considering how she goes out.
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>>161685382
Gale is probably SMT character in terms of character development. DDS in general is an underappreciated gem
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The only voice I cant stand in SMTIV / SMTIV:A

is asahi

The rest of the cast is so good, what went wrong, why pick her up, I dont think its just the script she got, she acting is sub par

Shes nothing compared to walter/isabeau/johnathan
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>>161695320
HURRY UP NANASHI
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>>161695867
>>161695320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvhsJ1Jhw1w
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>>161695867
>>161696024

Holy shit im dead haha

btw, is the whole "demon not doing what asahi actually wants" an early game gimmick or it will fuck me over all game, and if so, is it just another way to portray a missed attack or its just more bullshit to deal with
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>>161696256
Once you get Nozomi on the team you will never ever field Asahi again

She does get better though. Her ultimate ability gives you smirk.
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>>161695320
FUCK YOU FAGGOT
ASAHI IS LITERALLY PERFECT
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Quick question, I was browsing wikia and came across this:
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Pluto

>Interestingly enough, the Ancient of Days refers to 'Pluto' as such when it appears in the DLC. Ironically, this makes sense since in Christian faith, granting names to things is one of humanity's purposes in the universe.

I haven't so much as touched SMT4 or Apoc, so I have to ask whether this is a story detail or something the guy who edited this in put in itself.
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>>161700320
That sounds like some autismo's fan explanation for the infinite depth of this series.

I mean it's in the Bible and one of Apocalypse's main story concepts is... ehh... kinda... similarish?... to that, but no, it's not a story detail at all.
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>>161691687
/pg/ is that way fag
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>>161696360
>he actually uses Nozomi

There is literally no reason to use any partner but Navarre once you get him after Flynn saved your ass at the sky tower.
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>>161700625
stay mad edgebabby
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>>161700947
I bed you hate first person dungeons, too
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>>161700779
Nozomi does pretty decent damage at that point in the game and there's no use in using Navarre in random battles

Of course you bring Navarre for every boss.
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>>161701040
I bet you thought SMT4 was good.
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>>161701090
Stop posting DmC
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I just killed vishnuflynn

Should I destroy the egg or no?

Or is this one of the choices that doesn't matter
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>>161701198
It was okay, the combat was fun, and aside from the story nonsense and problems with demon selection is had good graphics, music, and was pretty unique

Better than SJ
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>>161701294
Your choice was made two rooms back when you decided between what Fagda wanted and what Danu wanted.
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>>161701405
wait i thought we were shitposting not giving honest answers
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>>161701090
I still use him even for random battles since I always kill them in a turn or 2
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Hey goys I was posting Revelations demon slayer a while back ago, but stooped because pokemon moon came out. Want me to start posting the game again?
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>>161701560
I'm 100% honest
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>>161701568
It's not like it matters cuz >SMT4A >hard >SMT random battles >hard

but still. Gaston can solo a lot of them (And often he does) and Nozomi and Isabeau are still strong damage behind him.

Not to mention Toki
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>>161701406
That's kinda what I figured

Does keeping the egg preserve it as a dungeon or something?
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>>161701835
It stays as a dungeon even if you "destroy" it.

Which is important as it is the last place you can recruit demons.

Even if the stock in it kinda sucks compared to 4's amazing endgame demon offerings.

By the way, since you put him in the ground, drop by fedoraman's tomb when you get the chance. Remember, where you unleashed him at the start? You won't regret it
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>>161701739
yeah well massacre is still for fags
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>>161696024
Anarchy ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLnecKDUweA
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>>161701751
Honestly I'd prefer for them to drop the whole partner thing if they ever make SMT 5, I just want a SMT where the only waifus around are the demon waifus.
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>>161703027
t. Danu
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>>161685162
I just imagine conversations like in SJ desu
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Post FUCK YOUs
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>>161705018
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>>161705018
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>>161706293
Is that milo?
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>>161706817
no its stephen
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>>161705018
Also the cropped version of this.
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>>161707490
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>>161707189
Yes but does milo ascend to Stephen
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>>161707796
its moot
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>>161706817
Who the fuck is Milo?
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>>161708057
A gay jew who likes black dick.
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>>161708057
A martyr of the alt-right
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>>161708213
>>161708264
Oh, is he that gay equivalent of an uncle tom? I never knew what his name was.
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Why so dead?
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>>161710508
Because its 230 on the eastern seaboard for the us. Will be dead for about 8 hours
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>>161676382
I'm extremely late, but...IVA is out in Aus now? Fuck me, I need to get it.
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>>161630545
10/10 would buy in a bundle pack with Megatennis
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Anons, do you expect Atlus to release something for Switch in 2017?
Their silence seems suspicious. Maybe they want more time to celebrate Persona anniversary and give P5 more spotlight but they have no new games on schedule.
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Is there any reason why Navarre couldn't be your partner during the prison break fights in Mikado? He doesn't need demons or anything to use his buff skills and its not like he needs the items I carry.
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>>161619195

Creation of a new universe is inherently Law.
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>tfw I beat Baal's Avatar with a Life Drain

talk about anticlimatic
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>>161715082
I beat YHVH on SMT4 Apocalypse with a regular attack on a free press turn after preparing to use Glacial Blast with concentrate. Way too anticlimactic of an ending.
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>>161715284
>vishnu-flynn kills nanashi and odin
>shiva crits for press turn
>matador gets 12 hit andalusia with smile and charge

Was hype as fuck. If he didn't hit that, I would have lost.
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>>161719642
whoops that's Persona's kart game
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>>161705018
>>161707490

Are these real or just shooped? I haven't actually seen any character tell me to go fuck myself yet...
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>>161690893
I'll consider getting this game used and at a cheap price just for her.
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>>161722706
Not sure if you are joking or not. Someone just named their character FUCK YOU, that's it.
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Dia!
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>>161725296
Marin Karin!
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>>161714253
Because then the rest of the party couldn't have gotten away with shitting on him like they usually do without looking like even bigger jackasses.
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European here, just bought SMT4:A and I was thinking, is the story (Cleopatra, beach and Mikado) DLC worth it?

I hace not seen anyone talk abput the quality of these and I was wondering.
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>>161726641
Cleopatra and Mephisto are the only way to get light/dark pierce. Cleo also has a unique ailment skill that max debuffs defense even if the ailment doesn't land. I would get her at least.
The Mikado DLC didn't really seem worth it unless you just really want to kill Hugo. It's basically just a series of timed battles. If you do get it wait until you're on or have done the Massacre route first since it takes place during that.
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>>161726641
They're just boss fights with a bit of talking.
I don't know what reward the Mikado DLC gives since I never bothered trying to beat it, but beach and Cleopatra DLC let you fuse some really stronk demons.

Cleopatra comes with pierce light and Mephisto comes with pierce dark.
Pirate them if your 3DS is hacked, if not don't bother unless you really want those demons.
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So do I do the Kalpa dungeons as soon as I unlock them or save it for end game?
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>>161728004
It's a good source of EXP, macca, and healing items.
I'd do them as soon as I could.
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>>161728004
You get locked out of completing them by entering the last dungeon

So it's good to do them as you go through
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>>161730805
yes
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>>161682958
First one, then the other. SH is fucking amazing, but IVA is a 'better game' for sure.
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>>161696256
It literally lasts the whole fucking game. Hallelujah and Navarre are where it's at anyway.
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>>161701726
do it friend, I've always wanted to play through it but it's so fucking slow
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Hoy.
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>>161692109
More importantly -how- was adramalech so based when everything else abrahamic until you reach satan was openly retarded on purpose?
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>>161714253
Also is there any reason anyone else can't? They don't have demons, but they can still fight. If you have demons its not like your entire team is demon free. I struggle to buy the "muh human strength" themes if not having a demon literally makes you functionally worthless. If only your demons are keeping you alive then your victory is unrelated to your own power anyways.
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>>161722775
Black Friday had it for $25 and I got it at that price for that exact reason. She's amazing.
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>>161717142
Both my DeSu1 and 2 victories came from the last surviving hero, Midori and Otome, striking the last desperate blow with a magic dance attack.

With Midori she actually had to summon the last not-dead way underleveled demon in my whole inventory that turn. The true hero of justice
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>>161741190
Because Japs don't get religion at all and can't write it well worth shit.

>>161741802
>thinking harder about the story than Atlus is
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>>161726641
Cleo and Beach = one boss fight each unlocking strong demons
Mikado = never bought. watched on youtube. looks retarded. Just series of timed fights with all of Mikadoans turned into craaaazy zombies
Messiahs = small dungeon + superboss that fights like (FINAL BOSS NAME REDACTED)++ and loads of SMT fan service.
Depths of Twisted Tokyo = Repeat Twisted Tokyo with scaled up bosses. This is grind to infinity style dungeon and not remotely fun unless you think Fatlus games haven't made you fat enough recently.
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when is fatlus gonna let me fuck my demons?
they're my slaves, servants, not friends or comrades, so I should be allowed to do anything I want to, and with them
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>>161742193
>>161715284 here, I remember the first time I beat DeSu I ended up beating the final boss with a Jack Frost because it was the only demon left in my stock. Was the craziest shit.
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>>161742789
Sex doesn't exist in SMT. Hedonistic degenerate pleasure went out with hope and heroism. There is only grim suffering.

Maybe in the side games though.
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>the ending to DeSu2
I get that the plot was just a giant lol once the whole thing degenerated to a chuuni and a sperg having competing tantrums, but geez, they couldn't even bother even HALF-writing anything for Polaris, could they?

"Oh the world lost its way so it has to be destroyed."

Okay, where did we go wrong? What does a world that has its way look like? Surely a deletion and sending retarded monster designs at us takes a crapload of effort... what cosmological scarcity makes deleting mediocre universes something you care enough to do?

Good grief what a waste of time pretending to care about that story was. Is Triangulum worse?
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>>161741987
Good to know. Gonna have to turn my brain off at the story, atleast the gameplay is good, from what i hear, anyways.

Still gotta beat Awakening and i really don't want to, game is boring after playing FE7.
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Reminder that siding with Keisuke and fighting Midori and Kaido on the fifth day is the only correct way to play DeSu 1
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>>161743996
Shoot yourself, Keisuke.
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>>161743996
>fighting Midori
>fighting justice
WRONG
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>>161693185
I played through DDSI nearly to the end, I should really pick up II. The story and setting were phenomenal, but I had a tough time enjoying the gameplay without demon fusion or negotiation.
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I've noticed one very strange thing in Apocalypse. When you go to Cosmic Egg and somewhere until the middle of that dungeon Isabeau has no lines. I didn't set her as my partner but I really don't remember her saying anything. Maybe originally she was supposed to join you later?
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>>161746134
Could be a plot thing. Most partners change their lines as the game progresses. Gaston is a screaming emo kid after he gets dumped before he finally gets his shit together toward the end of the egg.
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>>161746134
I think that since she's more of an outsider to your friend group they might have thougth her having lines would mess up the dynamic.
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>>161742548

you're underestimating atlus

>if it's not in the bible people never believed in it
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>>161746479

But seriously, Toki was getting fully possessed by Inanna and taken away by Krishna and Isabeau said nothing.
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>>161746479
PARDON ME
PARDON ME
PARDON ME
PARDON ME
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>>161743996
>He doesn't let Kaido kill that faggot Keisuke
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>>161744176
>muh seigi
>>>/vg/pg/
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>>161753050
kill yourself edge kid. it's what the white would want.
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>>161743996
This is SMT
Only correct choice is to take them all out
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Atlus need to remake MT2.
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best ending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3wS7QEwUbs
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Hoy.
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>>161760273
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so where was raidou 3?
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>>161757045
The first two games would be perfect for handhelds. Pure dungeon crawlers are a great fit for those.
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>>161570693
pls
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>>161727793
>>161742683
>>161727793

Thank you all, may Metatron watch over you.
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What does desperate hit in Apocalypse power depend on, your strength or dex?
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>>161763387
Metatron is a fag that likes to suck big cocks
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>>161763581
STR.
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>>161762579
http://66.90.94.162/ost/beep-magazine-vol.-06-best-game-music-selection/sdwbftiyip/09-digital-devil-story-goddess-revolution-bloody-sabbath.mp3
also the music needs to be done in this style

i'll warn you right now though, it's fucking loud
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>>161763658
Good I can use it then
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>>161749872
Go on.

fuck your filename though ;_;
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Why is Danu afraid of discarding the current universe she lives in for a new one?
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>>161764106
You're better off with Hell Thrust if you want a multi-hit, though there's not much reason not to take both since STR builds have space for whatever they want, including shit like Judgement Light and Salvation to abuse smirking with if you're scoring a lot of crits and pulling off those pre-emptives.
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>>161765117
Maybe because she doesn't want to be just nature. Or maybe she believes the humans as they are now are better of, then whatever Dagda wants them to be. Or maybe she cares about Nozomi and the fairies and doesn't want them to die.
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Angels... demons.. why is always like this?
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>>161768486
is this a persona 3 reference?
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I did DEX and MAG builds in IV during my two playthroughs. Bought Apocalypse last night. How well do STR builds perform?
I wanted to start on Apocalypse difficulty but it apparently isn't available yet.
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>>161765117
>>161766275

Probably a stronger belief in the strength of humanity as a group than in solipsism.
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Was there any purseowner/smt at Psx?
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>>161772410
They announced SMT V exclusively for the PS4 compatible with VR so you can fuck your demonfu.
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Is it possible to beat Apocalypse using Gaston as a partner whenever possible?
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>>161631502

Don't worry about all-out attacks, and keep in mind you get more XP for your protagonist with less demons summoned.
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>>161773480
of course, you'd just need to use cheat dlc
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>>161773480
>whenever possible?

Yeah

It's just not possible for 90% of the game
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>>161773480
*steal turns*
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>>161773828
Not even the strongest demons can stop Gaston from stealing your press turns.
>>161773938
He does join pretty late, but he's still around for Ikebukuro/Konganji/Ichigaya/Egg
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>>161766275
Humanity gets a better deal under Dagda than under the current universe. At least in Dagda's universe, Godslayer Flynn will be their to extort macca out of demons who wish to exist.
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>>161774329
>>161774378
No one steals turns like Gaston.

It's shame he is so shit. I like the guy and he delivers his dialogues in a good way.
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>>161769381
No it's from a series of games known as Shin Megami Tensei Idk if you have played them but you should! They're really fun!
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Hey guys I wanted to grab SMT IV Apocalypse but I wanted the buttons that came with it, anyone got a link to where I can get the game and the buttons?
I could pirate it but fuck that noise SMT deserves my money.
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>>161772504
Inanna-Toki is the closest thing that SMT is going to get to demonfu.
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>>161775904
i think amazon
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>>161775595
Shin Megami Tensei and Persona 1/2 are unappealing to me, as they are too hardcore with the RPG dungeon crawling. Plus, my beloved waifu Chie doesn't exist within the Shin Megami Tensei universe.

You're free to enjoy SMT, but I think I will stick to Persona.
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>>161766161
I already have hell thrust, the desperate hit is good to use for physical resisting enemies until I get awakened power.
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>>161776537
I bought my copy on Amazon and got the buttons
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Playing Apocalypse and want to go World Of MA

Is Luck still a dump stat?
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>>161776545
Visual Novels a shit, I'll be here fighting angels in the name of Chaos while you claim the Chi
Can you even take on the armies of Why age we age and fight in the name of Chaos?
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>>161766275
She's a conformist who shows "tolerance" and likes "diversity of the deities".

And doesn't like the idea of humans being godlike.
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>>161777357
Stop biting your nails you gross motherfucker.
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>>161771220
Yet most groups are dumb.

Even the good ones in IVs Universe.
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>>161778115
Danu is literally a useful idiot for the big yellow Jew
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>>161778205
I use nail clippers fag, unlike you I keep mine trimmed and not overgrown like some bum.
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>>161777749

Hell no.

It wasn't even a dump stat in the first one. Though it is less important for magic users
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>>161777357
>have the buttons too
>dont know what do with them
Give ideas you fags
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>>161780130
Put them on a jacket or something
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>>161780957
if i had a green one i will have done that
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What is the Evangelion of SMT?
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>>161781959
Devil Suckvivor 2
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>>161781959

evangelion
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>>161784382
What a trustworthy looking guy.
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>>161784382
Why are angels usually weak to fire/electricity?
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I'm emulating SMT1 right now, and I cannot find the fucking nerve bullets. Where are they sold at? I'm so tired of using the shitty ass sword for the main hero.
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Even as the Overlord I still have to save these ignorant, good for nothing puny humans. I should've listened to Kaido.
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>>161784732
The answer is shocking!
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Nocturne is the worst SMT
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>>161785096
>>161619404
nobody agrees with your stupid ass
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>>161784836
I'm playing the Aeon Genesis translation, btw. Don't know if that's at all relevant
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>>161785374
You won't be getting any for awhile, get a demon with tarukaja so your normal attacks kill demons more easily.
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>>161785549
How long is a while? I just finished the sidequest where you fight Ozawa
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This is my first time here holy shit why is this general so dead
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>>161786136
When you go to Shinjuku again after story events in Shibuya

Are you using a new patch or an older one? I think if you have whatever the most modern version is you can get bullets from the Antique dealer in the beginning area of the game.
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>>161786748
What are you talking about? Roppongi is the safest district in Tokyo thanks to the Red and Black Barons.
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>>161784492
it gets even better!
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>>161786861
I went back to the antique dealer and he wasn't selling bullets, so I think it's safe to assume I'm playing the old one
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>>161787150
Well then you just gotta wait and hope you don't get fucked in random encounters too much. With how many demons that can spawn at once SMT 1 did hordes before it was an actual thing in IV.
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>>161788024
Okay so when it's time do I buy them from the antique shop or is there somewhere else to get them?
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>>161788452
Like I said, when you visit Shinjuku again after going through Shibuya. You'll be able to get the nerve bullets that put enemies to sleep.
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Strange Journey x Doom crossover when?
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>>161794660
When this general get alive
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>>161591807
Holy shit dood I love you I leveled one of my guys till they evolved and it was exact counter you are the best man.
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>>161782164
>>161782825
If Eva is as awful as DeSu2's plot I'm never touching it.

That said, Daichi and Otome are great fucking characters. And the way Joe reported his waifu dying was spot fucking on.

Toki panders harder than anything in DeSu2 though.
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>>161797327
The least I could do.

Almost nothing is hard after Medusa until the end of the game except for the shitters that cast Blight two or three towns ahead. Have fun.
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>>161797329
I love how you people always call Toki out but not mention Asahi, Hal, Isabeau (for Flynn) etc.
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>>161776545
>>161775595
This is a whole new level of shitposting
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>>161797530
Because Toki panders THAT much harder.

Isabeau is so unappealing in 4 that the only memorable thing is killing her.
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>>161773480
Gaston doesn't do bad damage at all so it would be as if you had two weaker demons on your team for the whole game.
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>>161765117
Because she doesn't believe in committing genocide, killing all gods and demons and humans, and remaking humanity into something decidedly inhuman.

And of course in literally any other universe she'd be right but SMT is written precisely such that all heroism and valor is pointless, life will be shit forever and nothing man, god, or demon can do will ever change this, and an unkillable yellow man controls everything and will control everything forever and ever and despite having infinite power seems to only to want humans to suffer for no fucking reason when he could just build a universe with human spawners placed over shredder turbines infinitely forever to get his jollies.

If ALL THAT weren't true, Danu would be right.

But it's not. SMT universe is shit forever. So she's wrong and the universe must be destroyed and rebuilt

It will still be shit even rebuilt, as Stephen confirms, though.
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>>161780130
Sell them on ebay.
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>>161798961
Stephen was just being a bitter little bitch that his precious Tokyo Goddess doesn't get her power back
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>>161800895
>implying he's not gonna swat Nanashi away with one hand when babby Tokyo gets all growed up with power
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>>161798432
>Because Toki panders THAT much harder.
How? Asahi is literally the same thing in a different stereotype.
The whole party sucks your dick except Nozomi but instead of being normal she's the complete opposite, a fucking bitch.

I agree but we're talking about IVF in which she's sucking Flynn's (that is also yours) dick constantly.
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>>161801319
If he could do that then why didn't he stop YHVH himself in the first place and bring peace to Tokyo?
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What went wrong?
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>>161803374
No 3ds remake.
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>See Apocalypse on aus eshop
>64 fucking dollars
Fuck Atlus
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>>161803374
battle system
soundtrack
dungeons
fanbase
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If Nocturne gets a remake, what QoL improvements would you want? Would on field visible enemies instead of random encounters fit Nocturne?
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>>161804945
I really enjoy to grind
So no, having visible enemies feels a lot more easy
It's better when you get a mudo by a random encouenter that you didn't see coming
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>>161803374
No sequel
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>>161803374
Would love for a 3DS remake on IV/Apocalypse's engline.
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>>161805705
If anything, it's getting EO engine. At this point I'm starting to doubt that Atlus will release more games for 3DS other than another EO.
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>>161806464
Shit, good point. EO engine would be much better.
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So how do you think they'll advertise the future SMTV? Is it going to be an early announcement with 2 or more years of building hype? Or will they just announce it 6-10 months before the release and won't spend too much on marketing?
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How much is left in Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse if it was just revealed that Flynn is Shesha
Also, if I only have 6 Chakra pots left, and I going to get steamrolled by the final boss?
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>>161804945
Honestly, if Atlus just released the same exact game, but with non tin can audio, I'd buy it
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>>161703223
I'd be all for the partner system, but only if the partners have ideals of their own, rather than becoming a collective entity like in SMTIVA, where they either all stick with you or all immediately leave together. Something like Devil Survivor's systems, where certain characters don't follow some routes.
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>>161809739
Dind't they shat on it in the 3ds port? The characters make a 180 personality change on the 8th day to fit whichever route you choose
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>>161810998

They come around during the 8th days, but even then only story-wise and near the ending. They still don't rejoin you as party members characters.
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>decide to start shading this today
>open podcast about JRPGs
>fucker procceeds to say there are still mainline JRPGs with turnbased combat
>quotes Persona 5 as mainline
you had one job Geoff

put a lot of work in today, might be done in a day or so. Have a great day smtg!
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The general is dead
A lot of casualries left
How's your weekend /smtg/?
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>>161811710
I wish I was on a certain illusion beach right now.

other than that life's been pretty simple and monotonous this week.

I'm also kinda scared of posting stuff since I got warned by a mod on monday
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>>161812113
>life's been pretty simple and monotonous this week.
Tell me about it. I'm tired of all this work.
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>>161801916
Toki suddenly becomes submissive and starts calling Nanashi master after she gets exposed to Aether. The writers try to explain it by saying that Inanna amplified Toki feelings, though it falls flat when the demon in question mocks the party for believing the power of Friendship can work.
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>>161801916
Gaston, Isabeau, Navarre and Nozomi don't suck your dick.

The people who do are Asahi, Toki and Hallelujah. And that's fine, it's justified.
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>>161809323
But rolling for correct skills isn't fun.
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anime > edgy shit
The future is here and it's animu whether you like it or not edge cucks
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>>161816535
That's not anime.
It's just retarded flavoring to the bland generic mc, most have some theme as the third option.
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>>161809107
All that's left is the largest dungeon in the game. Have fun.
Just a heads up, the final boss is a bitch. I had to grind to 99 and fundraise macca for hours to stand a chance. Pretty much every demon needs luster candy, debilitate and concentrate along with every magic element possible to do any sort of productive damage.
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Hoy.
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SMT x Let It Die.
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>>161803374
Soundtrack is very, very tiring. Everything else is fucking amazing; would play again if they did a remake. Might play again anyway...
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friendly reminder that the 3DS can take native-resolution screenshots. they're the perfect size for shitposting, and look better than taking pictures of your 3DS screen with your phone!
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>>161801951
Because he's handicapped duh
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Never was into japanimation, started watching pic related and it's surprisingly enjoyable.

Are there any anime directly similar to SMT?
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>>161816535
Autism is the future, because it gives you super powers like an Xmans
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>tfw no megaten gf
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>>161829837
>Dagda lays his hand upon your head.
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Why is she so perfect, smtg?
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>>161831631
Because she is an indian (teepee not IT) demon
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My strange journey is finally over.
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>>161832345
>complete all the routes and only got like 4
feels badman
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>>161831631
cuz she dies
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>>161832345
>mapped every status tile, one-way door, teleport, pitfall, conveyor belt, and phase shift area
How could you stand it? I could never have the patience for this.
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>>161825546
You can't take in game screen shots, #DS doesn't have the technology for that its Nintendo hardware after all.
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>>161833568
Autism.
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>>161559061
What would you like to see in SMTV?
And when will you like to see it?
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>>161811692
Your first mistake was listening to anyone named Geoff who talks about video games for profit.

Went to Gamestop earlier to pick up PS4 games for my niece (8-ish and they didn't have DemiKids, so settled for WoFF), and their shill TV had the worst fucking promo for Naruto Online play at one point. All kinds of mangled pronunciations.

It's doubly fucked up because just months before they'd cut promos for SAO: Lost Song/Hollow Realization and sounded like they actually knew how to weeb, if not necessarily to care about weeb.
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>>161836391
Strange Journey sequel that takes place on Mars where you play as the first game's protagonist's son
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>>161837087
Also it would take place after the chaos ending
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>>161836391
Gratuitous road trips.
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>go Law in SJ
>go for TDE in Nocturne

What did I mean by this?
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>>161837196
Neutral ending is canon if it was chaos the world would be back in the stone age.
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>>161837413
you like to go for the best endings
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>>161837413
You like the hardest route.

>>161838565
Mastema is a handsome and perfect individual but for once Neutral is good in SJ and it's actually the best.
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>>161836657
Apparently Naruto Online is better than some people expected, including those who dropped animee for filler hell and manga cause the story is SHIT.
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>>161801319
>Baby Tokyo
>Ever having power as a grown up
Tokyo-chan is a useless shit. They had to make a bunch of AIs based on her just to make her competent.

And Burroughs would have been on Nanashis side just like Flynns even as he goes White.
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>>161833957
You can though, I literally posted one. Here, I'll post another.
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>>161798961
It just changes the definition of human. Nothing more. Hell the humans of a universe before IV's could be different from IV's and Massacre Humanity, which would already make IV's humans inhuman.

At least new humanity will be be able to transcend easier, unlike the current one.
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>>161797329
Desu2 is more a comedy version of Eva with aliens.

The twist in Eva is that the angels are _____.
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>>161840309
>It just changes the definition of human. Nothing more.
That's... not a small thing.
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>>161801951
>implying he can't
Stephen set up everything in 4 and 4A, including the stopping of YHVH.

He could crush both YHVH and Nanashi with one hand.
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>humans are nothing but worship tools programed to cling into YHVH and give him more power
>somehow this is good and must be preserved

Danu is very trustworthy
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>>161841389
>making a mindless worship tool into a god
This is even dumber, bro.
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>>161841864
Dagda is crazy. Not smart. Plus, he doesn't care so long as he gets to become wind.
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>>161841864
No. The messiahs are mindless god killing tools made by the great will and used by Stephen to make his waifu stronger.
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>>161842364
>making Dagda's mindless messiah into a god
well that at least explains why he doesn't actually want to be god when his minion can be trusted to do whatever he likes and take the blame.
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Is there some trick to getting the jade dagger to work in kanda no yashiro? As soon as Navarre pops up he immediately despawns so I can't break the barrier.
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>>161743996
This
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Hi, been a while.
Haven't played Soul Hackers for many months, thought the digest feature would be pretty useful, but it looks like it only covers major story moments and not everything. I literally don't know what I was doing last, but it looks like the only thing I have to do is wander the hotel and level up? Does this get real grindy?
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>>161846475
No. The hotel is pointless except for postgame. There is no grind needed in Soul Hackers.

Try going to the headquarters. Usually Nemissa will remind you of your objective when you enter or leave the van.
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>>161841001
It is when IV's Universe isn't the only one out there.

>>161841995
Of course he's smart. He's a God of Knowledge.

>>161842364
But his waifu isn't str. Just useless.
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>>161840068
How? it won't let me while the game is suspended to even use the screenshot.
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>>161846842
Oh, well fuck. Glad I asked, I'm limited to the second floor and assumed I needed to level up now to be able to enter the next floor.

I had beaten the airport vision quest last I played, and now, when I enter HQ, the only thing there for me is an e-mail from protag's sister, who I of course talked to.

Guess I need to poke around more.
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>>161847091
If you beat the airport vision quest last you played, you probably now need to go the airport proper.

The hotel is an optional grindzone in which more floors are added as the game progresses but it literally serves zero purpose except to catch pokedemons and grind.
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>>161847229
Yeah, I'm blocked off by security guards when I try to enter. Probably just forgot something to do.
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>>161847475
I think there's a secret entrance through another way that Spooky was supposed to take you in via. I think it's to the right of the airport proper but I can't remember specifically now.
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>>161847849
Hmm, I'll have to sneak around then and see. Thanks for the help.
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spooky is a miracle of the universe
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>>161847056
If it won't let you do a screenshot via the browser, just post it to your 'screenshot album' on Miiverse, and then go there on your computer or phone. You can download the full-res (240p) pics straight from Miiverse. That's what I did my whole playthrough of IVA and I got lots of great shitposting material.
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>>161828768
Only for specific routes, and most don't have the demons/spirits

>Every shonen anime ever follows Bonds
>Deathnote is about a Lawfag scaring everyone in the world into order
>Shijima very nearly had a Shijima ending
>Naruto, ironically enough, almost had a Musubi ending
>Fist of the North Star is World of STR
>Code Geass is about a Chaosfag thatgoes for Neutral at the end.
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>>161851583
>>Shijima very nearly had a Shijima ending
*Evangelion
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>>161851583
I like your descriptions. What are some others?
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>>161847849
>>161848181
Well, I feel like an idiot. I just missed the little side route that went around to lead me to the airport, that was all.
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>>161851745
>Gundam SEED spins its wheels on whether to go Reset or Liberator before being convinced by fujos to go SJ Law in the sequel
>Pokemon may be the Midori route we deserved but never got; its consistency over incredible longetivity suggests it is the aftermath of a prior Musubi ending
>Sailor Moon is a very sloppy Persona 3 where the player makes a point of encountering the Reaper and losing at least one character in battle against it *every Tartarus run*
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In KMT 1 were the fuck is Izanagis robe? I have the latios talisim what now?
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Which protag has the best dialogue options, and why is it the Autistic Bunny?
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The dub for Apocalypse is fucking painful in some places but dear god Dagda's VA is almost enough to make it worth it.

Is Nozomi's VA right saying it as Ah-key-rah? I always said A-ki-ra
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>>161850736
Does it even work for original 3DS? I don't have the new one.
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>>161806589
EO engine and maaaaybe better fusion system and whispers
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>>161857057
Yeah, I have a 2DS and it works great. Just suspend the game with the home button, and then pop into Miiverse. It doesn't work with SMTIV (unless you're playing the european version) but it does work with SMT IVA.
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>>161857252
>and whispers

Hell no. We're going back as a human with just a sword and gun.
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>>161857851
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What are the odds that Atlus just lets the mainline series rest now that Apocalypse has pretty much done everything that a 'finale' could hope to for it and instead goes back to making Devil Summoner/Survivor games and other side-series?
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>>161858234
0% YOU WHORE
WE ARE LIVING IN A WORLD WHERE PERSONA WILL LAST FOREVER
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>>161858234
It was just the final story in IVS Unive
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>playing apocalypse difficulty
>can't bring yourself to fuse demons that haven't learned all their skills yet
>also can't discard any pleromas or resist/null skills because they might at some point be useful so you end up with demons that have no attack skill and instead are full of pleromas/resist/null to pass on the next demon who ends up having the same problem
>have trouble with trash mobs the entire game because of this
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>>161863286

Resists are important, pleromas not so much. Lots of demons who learn elemental spells get an appropriate pleroma anyway.
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>>161832345
Thats pretty fucking impressing
Autism or not, fucking cool
I salute you soldier
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>>161837262
I miss the visublog posts...
always nice to see persona drawing more smt!
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>>161864173
Guess it's time to let go of those pleromas then
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>>161858143
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What the fuck is up with SMTIV:A's story? It's either full edge, or sunshine and rainbows. Where's the inbetween? I found the gameplay to be pretty good, but whenever a story segment shown up my enjoyment nosedived. The writing in general seem so... meh, while simultaneously shitting on older SMT's. I've never had a game where I enjoyed it a lot, but at the same time hate it.
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>>161866724
The "new" team was given more freedom and they didn't have such a tight leash to keep them in place this time around.

Keep in mind that they are the same team who worked in SMT IV.
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heya folks, just finished 4 and 4a
about to play 3 as well, any other games y'all recommend, or any other good series similar to smt?
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>>161872749
Play Persona 1 and the 2 duology. Check out Etrian Odyssey as well.
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>>161872749
The whole franchise.
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png
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>Playing through Messiahs in the Diamond Realm
>Reach Demi-Friend and help him kick demon ass
>Fuck yeah, feels good to reunite with a familiar face
>Remembering the kickass build I made in Nocturne
>"I thought Lucifer killed me after I destroyed Kagutsuchi."
>mfw

W-was it all a lie? T-true Demon Ending...Lucy p-promised...
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>>161873430
im thiging bout those toast
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>>161873430
>believing in Lucifer the lord of lies
just because SMT is terrible at writing anything other than law as evil doesn't mean you can trust demons.
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>>161873430
he was a faggot that died at lucifer test
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>>161873430
All the MCs in The Messiah DLC come from a bad timeline where they lost in one way or another.
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>>161874390
>SMT4 law end
>losing
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>>161876361
Indeed.

I don't know why SMT law has to be borderline Islam instead of being chill and peaceful like in many other RPGs, but that's the way ATLUS decides to portray it.
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What kind of individual does Isabeau's design and character cater to?
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>>161876628
Because Fatlus can't actually write chaos as convincingly evil so all they got is law.
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>>161876875
A circus performer or someone looking to start a circus career
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>>161876875
I thought her design and character were just there as fodder to be murdered in either of the good ends to SMT4.
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>>161873430
You have to beat him in combat. He didn't.

>>161873919
Yet Law has spun more lies than Chaos ever has.
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>>161876875
Patricians with a ZR thigh fetish and plebs with a monkeyears fetish
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>>161877205
This right here.
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>>161876875
The samurai uniform is god-tier, the way they designed the female variant is also pretty good.
The fact that she is not really wearing her jacket is retarded though, but you'll only see her torso in portraits, so it's no big deal.

I think the haircut is nice, it's also neat when you realize that she has it that way because she comes from a family of monks and priests.

Her personality is really meh, at least IV left the players some freedom to fill in the blanks, but by the time she appears in IV:A she really has nothing remarkable going for her, and since there are more female characters this time around, she becomes much more forgettable.
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>>161877559
I also really like her nails/eyeliner since I have a fetish for makeup
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>>161877205
>ZR
What's that mean?
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>>161877686
I don't have a fetish for that but she's really good looking besides the ears
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>>161877774
It's shorthand for Japspeak "Absolute Territory" or the space between legwear/boots and a skirt
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>>161877005
>Law has spun more lies than Chaos ever has.
>just because SMT is terrible at writing anything other than law as evil doesn't mean you can trust demons.
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damn, these raidou kuzunoha uniforms look so cool.
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>>161878171
Raidou BDSM
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this is just like my own personal video game
oh yeah did i mention theres no escape hahaha
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>>161878581
little cocksucker
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>>161618131
there's a certain glory to punching demons gods and humans in the face. been going for STR in every smt game for quite some time now.
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>>161642638
>sixth
I've just beat Azazel and Satanael with just MC, Nemissa and Zoma.

Anyway, I feeling like I'm getting close to the end of the game. So I wanted to ask: is there a point of no return? A dungeon or an event after which I won't be able to roam the city and/or Paradigm X, fuse new demons and shit?
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>Raidou 2
>fighting pale rider
>pretty easy so far
>suddenly he summons a clone of himself
>said clone is the exact same as the original, except it's at full health
>continue focusing on the original
>he summons ANOTHER one
>get gangbanged and die
This is ridiculous
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Well, /smtg/? Who did you pick?
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>>161881482
u
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>>161880962
Damn. At that point in the game I had actually keep demons out. The tower was too tough to solo with just the humans.

Yes, you are getting extremely close to the end. Chip Source/Nikkami or whatever it's pronounced Ruins is the final dungeon. Hopefully you weren't fantasizing about a yuri ninja cat fight and remember who Naomi actually killed.

There is no point of no return. There IS a point of "pain in the ass to return from" in the final dungeon where apparently the demon businessmen thought their profit off this demon source was gonna be enhanced by having a bunch of gay teleporter bullshit.

That said, once you beat the final boss, the endgame save will take you back to HQ, allowing you to handle post-game in the hotel top floor or go back to the final dungeon to beat the boss and see the ending again.
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reminder
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>>161881978
>The tower was too tough to solo with just the humans.
I always explore the dungeons with just humans, so I wouldn't waste mag, and summon for bosses. This time I just got into the boss fight (or more precisely two consecutive fights) without any preparation. I wanted to just get an idea of what the bosses will do, but I ended up actually beating them.
>and remember who Naomi actually killed
Apparently I've killed the magic resistant boss, so the one my party will have to deal should be a cakewalk for Nemissa.
>There is no point of no return.
Nice. Shame there is no goho-m/ariadne thread kind of item in this game to teleport out of a dungeon. Although there are healing spaces which make traversing the dungeons much comfier.
>the endgame save will take you back to HQ
I see. Can you only access the final floor in the hotel after you beat the game once? If I understand this correctly the post-game isn't technically "post", it just reverts you back to the point before the final boss. Can't you just access the hotel right before the final boss on the very first playthrough?
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>>161882430
Don't know. I think you have to have beaten the game to hit up the post-game area but can't confirm. The post-game area is a bunch of goofy challenge bosses anyway. You could always just head to the hotel and try it.

The tower was the only place I had to summon for. Just too many asshole monsters with instakills to let protag take hits. Then again, I didn't have a useful Zoma.
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>>161882609
>with instakills
I've heard the humans are immune to Hama in Soul Hackers by default. So I just gave both MC and Nemissa armor with Death immunity, so instakills don't bother me anymore. Aside from the one that shatters characters with frozen status.
Oh and by the way, what the hell does the bomb status do? Is this another instakill? Like, if you're hit with a fire spell it "lights the bomb's fuse and sets it off" or something like that? I've never been killed by it in the entire game.
>I didn't have a useful Zoma.
My Zoma just has half decent stats and Media. I have him spam it on every turn during boss fights.
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>>161883186
I got killed by that a couple times. yeah, if you get hit by fire you die.
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>>161877205
ZR is the pleb fetish
Nobody digs her for the hair btw
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Is it possible to sacrifice fusion for a fiend in nocturne?

I'm trying to make a red rider for beelzebub but level 55 is a little low. I don't know how to do a sacrifice because it needs to be new kagutsuchi to fuse him
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>>161884859
Fiends have to be fused during specific moon phases, and since sac fusions are only available during a full Kagatsuchi, only Daisoujou and Trumpeter can be sacrifice fused as their phase of choice is the full one.
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>>161884962
ty anon

+1
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Can you play SMT IV: Apocalypse as your first SMT game or should you play another one first? I only have a 3DS
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Just finished the Anarchy route. Not sure why it gets so much shit on here, it was pretty fun and I liked the writing even if Nanashi is still a really terribly designed MC that ruined the tone of any scene you could see him in.

Dagda may be my new favourite SMT character.
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>>161889376
>tfw Dagda is the only one you can't save with the power of friendship on the """""good"""" path
It's simultaneously a testament to how based he is and a kick to the nuts.
Fuck Danu though.
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When is the earliest level I can get Debilitate in Nocturne and which demon?
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You could, but IV is cheap so you might as well play both.
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Does Apocalypse have any kind of save import from IV, or doesn't it matter whatever you did in the previous game?
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>>161895615
Goddamn Merkabah.
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>>161893559
Yes, you get lots of money and items depending on how many endings you got.
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Hoy.
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How many side quests/fusions are there in ng+ in apocalypse?

Just killed the egg and it all seems to have dried up, besides twisted tokyo
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>>161900120
Nothing, other than DLC and Twisted Tokyo.

Disappointing, i know.
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>>161900170
So izanami and mara are "the end"?

That really is disappointing.
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>>161882210
Still just a mortal.
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Akasha Arts or Hell Thrust?
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>>161881482
I haven't played raidou yet, emulators run it like shit and I doubt I'd get my ps2 working again...
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>>161902602
Akasha Thrust.
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>>161904175
Buy a PS3 for like, $30
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>>161902602
Why not both senpai
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>>161900120
Just pay for the "repeat TT forever" DLC if you want a post game goyim

>>161887994
4A is fine to start. 4 is charming but it's a busted unpleasant mess of a game.
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>>157044332
>tfw /smtg/ sings will never be completed within your lifetime
>tfw even the kowaSHITai sings was ten times more successful
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I know Nemissa is the token Soul Hackers waifu but I would defile Mayone in a heartbeat given half a chance.
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>>161908989
For me that feel is good because I like TMS.
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>>161909124
hoy?
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>>161909124
No one should feel good about that /v/ sings in particular, because of how bad it was.
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>>161909031
The side characters of SH may not be memorable, but the game is full of interesting designs.

For me Naomi is best Soul Hacker.
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>>161910187
Greaser rocker, a haji street shitter, an asshole corporate fixer with robo fists, a ninja bitch in a business suit, a pirate King and his homonculous meido...

Soul Hackers was pure rule of cool. If you weren't grinning while playing your inner teenage boy is dead
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>>161910562
I think the Visual Quests are also a pretty cool concept with how you are put in the place of another character who is more powerful than you and has an entirely different demon party, especially when you get to revisit those places in "real life" later on.

I love SH.
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I won't let this thread die!
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>>161912956
Why is it that the chaosbros are the ones bumping the general most of the time?
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>>161913487
such is the nature of chaos
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>>161913487
Because they struggle for survival, unlike lawfags who will roll over and die unless somebody talks bad about yeast-less bread or something
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>>161913912
>doesn't enjoy matzo
>has disdain for almighty G-d
pleb
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>>161914081
OY VEY
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You all bought Sera's memory card, right?
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How do I beat the first fight with Stephen in the Diamond Realm? This crippled douche is too tough, I can't even get on the offensive I'm spending each turn trying to keep my party alive.
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>>161914081
This pic tells me you can tell that someone in SMT is a chaosfag if their art shows them with their hands on their hips, hell Walter's pose is literally the exact same as Jimenez, they even have that same smug look on their faces.
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How the fuck am I supposed to navigate the Tsukiji Konganji main temple (Apocalypse not IV)? I can't remember which portals I've been through and its actually giving me cancer.
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>>161917440
>you can tell that someone in SMT is a chaosfag if their art shows them with their hands on their hips
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>>161917529
Fine

>they also need to have a smug look on their face as well
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>>161917684
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>>161917775
Is that supposed to look smug?
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>>161917160
Another question, if I feel like I'm not ready yet and if I leave do I have to start over from the very beginning?
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>>161918072
Yes. Also, Chaos Hero doesn't look smug, your theory doesn't hold up.
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New theory!
If the character in question has at least one hand on their hip, they're either a law or chaos hero
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>>161922518
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>>161922518
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>>161922518
That's how a neutral hero looks like!
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A nigger just dropped this SMT remake on RPG maker
https://mega.nz/#F!H1wTSA5R!jR2IsO6zUjG-VGTJX7iFKw
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>>161923620
Does it have any changes compared to the original?
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>>161909031
>>161910187
I can respect your choices but the objectively best girl in the game is pic related.
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>>161676382

here in Brazil we have apocalypse being sale by R$200,00 or R$300,00
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Well, /smtg/?
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>>161928283
>turn off and throw game in trash/delete and play Digital Devil Saga.
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>>161928418
You should throw DDS in the trash too.
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>>161928418
you don't have to be pure, anon. I'll still love you either way
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>>161928283
Ignore the bitch
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>>161928283
Ignore her and wait for Mitsuru to come knocking
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>all these dialogue options to give Daichi shit
Why fatlus why do you hate bros
>>
>>161928283
Play a real game like TMS#FE not edgy weeb animu shit
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>>161928829
Well, i admit i have Persona 1 downloaded on PSP emulator...

>>161928640
You mean delete, and nah.
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>>161929090
>You mean delete
So you don't even own the game. How sad.
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>>161929149
Not my fault i got into SMT late.
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>>161929056
wut
>>
Can I fuse En No Ozuna in SMTIVA?
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>>161929149
>owning vidya
>paying for vidya
>>
>>161929227
I see, you're a DDS baby. It's fine, you'll play better Megaten games eventually.
>>161929262
If you don't own every single Megaten game signed by Kaneko and Cozy you should stop posting in this general.
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>>161929415
>you're a DDS baby

Actually, i started with SMTIV
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>>161929575
That's fine I'm just messing with you.
IV is shit though, for real.
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>>161929716
I thought it was great. Didn't like how Apocalypse shat on Law and Chaos, though.
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>>161929716
The amount of people who perpetuate the notion that 4 is anything but an unpleasant broken mess of a game boggles the mind.

I get that RPGs aren't usually good at all but come on.
>>
>>161930225
Apocalypse shat on all of 4's endings. I think it's better to take it as a fanfic AU.

I can forgive the plot failures for improving the gameplay in every possible way.
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>>161930547
Apocalypse also inadvertently shits on smt2 as well. Gameplay's good, but if it wouldn't bother me if it just got ignored.
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>>161928283
>1080p
what did he mean by this?
>>
Where can I buy a shotgun in the Kichijoji mall in SMT1?
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>>161930754
I don't think they're the same continuity.
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>>161930994
what do you think I meant by that?
>>
>>161931015
Actually, scratch that, where can I buy guns in general? I'm at the part before you fight Gotou.
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>>161928283
ignore, you can do much better

>>161922934
>>161922939
oh fuck me
ok
New new theory!
If the character in question has at least one hand on their hip, they're a hero!
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>>161931640
inb4 autistic Shijimafags.
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>>161931457
Due to the "multiverse" crap smt has, they're all somewhat connected.

Saying that does anyone actually like the "open" multiverse, in which all endings are canon, in smt? It really put a damper on the Apocalypse DLC, as those weren't the characters I wanted to see more of. They were jobbers that only looked like the characters I cared about.
>>
WHERE THE FUCK DO I BUY GUNS/AMMO IN SMT1 IVE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME USING NOTHING BUT A SWORD FOR THE MAIN HERO SOMEONE FUCKING HELP ME
>>
>>161922939
damn, she a qt
>>
>>161931790
...fuck. you got me.
New new new theory.
If the character in question has at least one hand on their hip, they're a major character.
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>>161931805
>Saying that does anyone actually like the "open" multiverse, in which all endings are canon, in smt?
I'm not much of a canonfag to begin with and idea that certain characters can develop differently under similar conditions excites me because I'm a hardcore headcanon fag
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>>161931938
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>>161931938
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>>161931997
You're the opposite of me then. I like continuity, with headcanon only being there to fill in the blanks.
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>>161931805
Having a multiverse makes more sense to me than making the same world go to shit over and over again.

This way every game is free to be its own thing without having to worry about addressing a 20 year-long canon. And newbies don't need to play every single game to keep up with the grand scheme of things. They can pick up almost any game and take its story at face value.
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>>161932139
New^4 theory
If the character in question has at least one hand on their hip, they're a character.
That sound good?
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>>161932439
This isn't really a character, just a demon you can summon and use in combat.
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>>161932231
True, though what I meant by "open multiverse" was the every choice is canon.

I'd prefer a more closed multiverse, where say SMT1 has a canon ending/Hero, SMT2 has a canon ending (well it does)/Aleph etc. I'm fine with different worlds, just having every single choice/action/death being a separate world so you have like a million Aleph's due to every choice is a bit much for me.
>>
>>161932563
Don't you dare look down on Demonee-Ho! Demonee-Ho is a respected member of the space marines and he is just as much of a character as any of the above!
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>>161933108
Demonimeme is a shit demon with a shitty lore.
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Nemissa is flat! FLAT!
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Why aren't the powersave codes up for Europe yet?
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>>161933931
>flat
>not ass
why even bother
>>
>>161931938
>>161932092
Let me try. If the SMT character has hands then they are a character from SMT.
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>>161936060
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>>161931805
>Saying that does anyone actually like the "open" multiverse, in which all endings are canon, in smt? It really put a damper on the Apocalypse DLC, as those weren't the characters I wanted to see more of. They were jobbers that only looked like the characters I cared about.
>caring about SMT characters
Found the Persona shitter.

That said I'm not a huge fan of it but it only really plays into autismal fanfic "WHOLE SERIES IS CONNECTED" explanations.

Infinite alternate universes certainly doesn't HELP the already weak storytelling.
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>>161936217
Hey, that statement only applies to characters with hands.
My nigga Nyarly aint got no hands there.
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>>161936217
Er... If the character is.... in an SMT game, then they are a... SMT character.
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>>161936479
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>space marine wasnt in the DLC
reeeee atlus
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Nue theory!
If Nue is an SMT character, then hands are Nue!
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>>161936586
STR vs DEX
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>>161936530
I give up it's impossible to reason about SMT
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>>161937613
That's what you get for defying me, fool. Come up with another of your dumb theories and I'll dismantle all of them again.
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Newer theory
If a character has beautiful long hair, then they are quality waifu material!
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>>161937810
I would argue that's true by definition but I already got beat trying a by definition proof.

This is the last paint man gif I have I'm done avatarring
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>>161937810
I hope you know how to handle adult diapers.
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>>161937957
We'll see what happens.
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>>161937806
go away, you ugly woman.
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>>161938079
Don't bully Easy.
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>>161938031
lucy is quality waifu material in any form, try again
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>>161938205
fags don't count kys
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>>161938442
i did say any form
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>>161938649
OL Louisa is a miracle of the universe
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>>161937810
this man speaks the truth
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New thread
>>161940651
>>161940651
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>>161612318
It's like that in P3 Portable. I would clear the entire section on the first day and then social link the rest of the month
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