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1 day 23 hours 52 minutes

>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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>>161495715
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So is earthquake dropping bleed/poison, less duration, or just taking the nerf?
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What skill are you gonna use on your raider build, boys?
And are you going life or ci?
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So as a summary from the previous thread:

BF raider is stronger defensivly and assassin is the glasscannon?
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>>161495997
not even going to bother seeing as every mouthbreather is going to be playing it
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>>161495997
Both black tea and sharo are better than that whore
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>>161496083
assassin is overkill. i did the maths and it'd put you at 113% crit with mediocre gear. the crit cap is 95%. assassin provides literally zero defense or utility.

raider is more well rounded. lots of damage with lots of defense and utility. there's really no reason to go assassin

basically: assassin = shitcore; raider = leetcore
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>>161496083
bf raider if you get lucky/rich enough to get good crit chance/multi items, weaker vs bosses
bf ass if you don't want to worry too much about crit in items, better vs bosses
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Remember: you have 48 hours to empty your nutsack
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>>161496219
>assassin provides literally zero defense
Toxic Delivery is 10% reduced damage taken from DoT, which is great against traps and phys/elemental degen. Shadow start also wastes fewer points, resulting in potentially higher ES.
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>>161457692
>FREE
>>161457845
>free
>>161457970
>free
>>161459291
>FREE
>>161459574
>FREE
>>161462361
>FREE
>>161463068
>free
>>161471469
>free
>>161475531
>free
>>161487197
>free
>>161495145
>free
>>161495757
>FREE
>>161474260
>F R E E
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>>161496407
P-Please empty them in my mouth.. I beg you
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>>161496407
Post some sadpandas
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>>161495636
>mfw i was using a Raider for over half the duration of last league and used to say that it's viable
>All these people rolling Raiders (the buffs helped but still)
Is that what being a hipster feels like?
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Sort of tempted to try out my league build on my old character since they're getting a free passive reset after the 2.5 patch drops.
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>>161496219
I usually nolife at the beginning of the league and burn out after 1-2 weeks. In that time i usually farm around 15-20 ex, but i can not get full tier 1 gear with that (like top notch crit rolls on jewelery etc).

Is raider still for me or wil i find myself lacking in damage once i reach the higher part of maps?
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>>161496512
toxic delivery is shit
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>>161495947
You don't drop less duration on earthquake ever. Besides that you likely also want to use a warped timepiece.

Guess it just means dropping voidheart, it wasn't really that great anymore after the nerf anyway (voidheart). Bleed and poison is still so broken as a mechanic.
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>>161496219
>>161496245
How much weaker against bosses are we talking here? Isnt boss damage kinda the only thing that really matters once you get to endgame?
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>>161496779
you will need a nice ele/crit vagan dagger in high level maps. that's going to be hard to get

the rest of it is just basic CI gear
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PAINT YOUR FUCKIN BUILDS YOU FUCKIN NERDS
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>>161496748
Yes, something getting popular always ruins it. It's like being a GitS fan and now Hollywood is making a movie about it with Scarlett and it's going to be westernized and watered down and cliche and the plebs will love it.
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>>161496840
>drop voidheart
>bleed and poison still broken
hmmm
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>>161496954
Arnt vagan dagger usually just an ex for a good base and then mastercraft?
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>>161496726
ok but I'll be edging for a whole day so you'll have to wait
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>>161497048
just use a Disfavour bro
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>>161497093
probably a lot more than that because it will be meta
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>>161496910
A LOT unless you are going against a bleed/poison immune
uber atiziri and shapers will take a raider with the same items at least double the time if no triple the time desu
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>>161497095
>not going on a 24-hour fapping marathon
What are you, 40?
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elemental necromancer mirror arrow
Or CI poison occultist mirror arrow
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Can you even make this shit up at this point?
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How many frenzy charges can raider even realisticly get?

I read everywhere "lmoa 10 frenzy charges" but you only get 2 from tree (without wasting a shitton), 1 from ascendancy and then one from darkray vectors so you're at 7.

Any other good way to get more?

>>161497252
you mean a lot more than that for a base?

>>161497280
wew, i didnt think assassin has that much of an advantage there
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>>161497280
How so? 10 frenzy charges is a generic 40% more damage which double dips on Poison damage. I haven't run the math but it should be surprisingly similar to Assassin.
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>>161496407
>>161496726
>>161497095
degenerate retards
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>>161497316
I rip the skin and it hurts
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>>161497429
Bandit reward. You can corrupt Darkray Vectors for +1 frenzy, but it might be a lot more expensive this league.
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>>161497459
I'd really love to see the math on this, but i have no idea how bleed and poison work
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>>161496954
>>161497093
you don't need a vagan dagger at all
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>>161497648
Sources of generic damage (such as those provided by a Scourge claw or frenzy charges) double-dip on poison. More damage on the initial hit resulting on a bigger poison stack, then more damage on poison DoT. Triple-dipping if you include Vulnerability.
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>>161497797
>implying
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>>161497797
retard
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>>161497812
But can 32% more damage outweigh the huge crit multi advantage assassin has? Ass also deals bleeding damage
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>>161497429
3 base, +2 from tree, +1 from ascendancy, +1 from bandit, +1 from darkray vector, +2 from corrupted boots/ammy.
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Is this essentially immunity to freeze or would frozen monsters still be able to move?
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>>161497892
>>161497919
if you are going raider you will have a shitton of dex alrdy, your hit chance should be at 93/94%
better use some meme unique or an insane dagger instead of wasting your time with a vagan dagger
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>>161498201
They'd be able to move, yet they would have the debuff. It's worded like that juggernaut node, which works like that.
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>>161498249
you're accuracy will be like 73%
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>>161498058
8 is realistic, 10 is not, corrupted +1 darkrays were expensive enough without Raider being thrown in the spotlight and +1 amulets are also very expensive if you don't want garbage rolls
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>>161498396
>if you don't want garbage rolls
factor that in, scrub
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>>161498396
I'd say +9 is realistic. I agree the corrupted Darkray Vectors are gonna be too expensive, especially in this league. The ammy is not hard to get a roll that's better because the frenzy charge is good enough in most cases to make up for 3 shit stats.
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>>161498057
No idea, I don't care enough about the skill to run the math, I'll leave the exercise to those who don't mind playing cancer builds
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>his build has no max block
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>>161498849
-30% reduced block chance is now a map mod
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>>161496954
Why ele? Isnt bf physical?
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>>161499041
Like most weapon skills it's base weapon damage, not base physical damage. So it will do whatever damage your weapon does.
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why isn't there a pause function?
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What would you guys play if BF didn't exist?
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>>161499220
Oh, thanks, i idnt know that.
So with raider having that 40% increased ele damage, an ele dagger would be even better?
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>>161499425
>Playing FotM builds
>Ever
Not only they make the necessary equipment unnecessarily expensive,it also feels kinda boring seeing everyone using the same stuff (last league when i traded there was a 80% chance it'd be a Pathfinder,now i guess this will change to Raider though).
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Where do bino BF users take their accuracy from?
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>>161499459
so you can test it properly, RNGesus blessed you
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>>161499746
you can get away with playing fotm memebuilds if you are good enough to stay ahead of the curve. you have to be the first one to maps, the first one to get lots of currency, the first one to buy the gear you need
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>>161499764
Hinekora's Sight
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>>161499890
Just because you're the first to something doesn't mean you'll get to be the first to buy something, especially from a savvy trader who would have no incentive to sell something like Bino's fast so you're still paying a premium tax for shit just because you have 500 other players doing the same thing as you
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>>161499890
True,but all this sounds like such a bother.Maybe i've been burned out desu,but i prefer taking it slowly these days.
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>>161500126
with all the scripts people run these days to snipe gear off poe.trade it will be more difficult than ever. on top of that there are entire guilds dedicated to manipulating and controlling the market. trade in this game is a fucking disaster

but 2ex at the start of the league is more valuable than 2ex a few weeks in. it's much easier to get what you need early on
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What ascendency can make molten strike great again?
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>>161500331
Scion
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>>161496976
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Does non-crit frenzy blade flurry raider work? with the two rigwald weapons?

or wait, are those weapons not on temp league
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>>161500331
Deadeye :^).
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>>161495997
Phys bow baby
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There are zero builds I actually want to play...
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>>161499890
The gear you need is just rares though.

Sure week 1 a high dps dagger will be really sought after but the skill is busted enough that it doesn't matter.
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>>161500784
why not
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>>161500497
You can get them through divination cards.
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This is my current skill tree for my templar.
What are my possibilites?
Didn't ascend yet because jesus fuck i'll need a whole fucking day to clear everything.
P.S:New player,no i don't want to look up a build i am curious if i fucked up royally or i am on a good way.
A little help with active skills would be nice because currently i focus on lightning and cold ele damage.Usualy rotation is curse into 4 orb of storm and if something still lives than i kite it a bit with cold damage while zapping them from above.
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>>161500964
do you think dual rigwald weapons could do t13+ ?

especially with those retarded raider changes
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>>161500918
I don't like the gameplay
I dnno
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>>161501130
I think so? I always wanted to play the rigwald build but I keep forgetting to buy the weapons at the end of a league.
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>>161496976
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I don't get this. I never linked my accounts. Why does this show up?
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>>161501124
In the off chance this is not a bait, there are several glaring mistakes you've made already.

First skipping life nodes is not an option unless you're trying to go very fast and are an experienced racer, unlike in most ARPGs you cannot skip the defensive nodes here.

Second, hybrid builds such as what you seem to be going for with Precision, Catalyse, Galvanic Hammer and a bunch of elemental spells simply do not work. All you're doing is splitting your efficiency. PoE rewards specialization, not random mish mash of skills.

Third, upgrade your fucking life flasks, NPCs are there for a reason.

>What are my possibilites?
Delete character, read a basic guide and start anew, it's evident you will go nowhere in this game if you keep deciding to wing it up and following your instinct which led you to this mess of a tree before even the end of normal.
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>>161495997
facebreaker frenzy
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Filter update information for patricians:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1774440
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>>161501124
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>>161501124
>P.S:New player
that's obvious
you're building your tree around damage when you should be building it around either life or es while picking up some key damage nodes when it's convenient. Taking two travel nodes for a small crit wheel is really bad.
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>>161501879
how is this of any relevance to us
just wait for Neversink to update his
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>>161501743
>>161501981
I see.Thanks for the reply.

>>161501892
It's ok anon.You can laugh at me i won't get mad.I was kinda expecting that i am doing it wrong so duh.
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>>161501879
>Emmitt has exposed this data for the community to use. You will be able to find it here.
Wait, what? GGG is officially endorsing Emmitt? must feel bad for all the other tree planner guys
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>>161501725
why would you link ur shit to steam
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>essence tab
>still no card book
>its paywall again

NICE GOING GGG
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>>161502247
post your /deaths
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does frost wall still help with spark?
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isn't emmitt that literal plonker who sucked GGG's flaccid dick when they first announced p2w tabs

fuck that guy
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>>161502353
to sell shit on poe.trade?

acquisition is unable to fetch my character names.

i figured that's because there are no characters shown in my forum profile, which i thought must be because i never linked the accounts.

or am i wrong here?
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>>161502579
Most of this was because i was careless and didn't know what the enemy can do and approached mindlessly and went on autopilot mode then got fucked.
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>>161502810
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>>161502750
yes. steam changes nothing.
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@161502810
ugh there are literal shitcrows posting here

i feel disgusting
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>>161502989
news at 11
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t. hardcuck who thinks he's a good player because he has an autologout macro
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>>161502989
It's a literal new player, not a shitcrow playing in softcore every league. What kind of a retard chooses hardcore when they're playing for the first time.
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>>161502810
Yeaaaaah

You shouldn't be dying in normal at all. I mean, you shouldn't really be dying while levelling, but it's okay as a new player to die a couple times.

19 times is more than a couple.
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>>161495997
Thinking about phys/chaos bow build with Lioneyes glare
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>>161502959
welp, then what do i do?

ffs why can't they just introduce ingame shops
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>>161497145
> Disfavour
> Hardcore

pick one.
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anyone wanna team up ?? be my friend and all???

you'll have to be the girly one though, lol...
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>>161503241
I-I'm a girl... but I have a penis -_-, is that okay ^_^?
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>>161503241
>you'll have to be the girly one
what does that entail...
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>>161503139
As i said i didn't know what i was doing and sometimes got OHKO-d by a monster. As it just crawled up into my asshole on sanic speeds while i was trying to chug potions.
Yeah this may sound as an excuse but fuck it i have to start somewhere.
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>>161503043
osiafh msg me the discord pls
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>>161500329
>>161500126
Depends what you need though, since there are some uniques and rares that are selling for prime prices as well early on that will later on dwindle down. In this way its easier buying gear 3 weeks in then 3 days in. This goes the opposite though if you're playing fotm crap that everyone wants. Which is the downside of playing fotm builds, they often require mass currency since everyone wants the items that are good for that build.

>>161500331
Molten strike is already great for lv 1-12.
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>>161503330
>>161503338
you just have to be my girl.... lol.....

doesnt matter if you have a pen0r.... feminine penis?//?????>?>?>


>>161503376
me too pls lol
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Is Path of Exile too unforgiving for new players?
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>>161503460
you don't want a friend you want a little submissive b*tch...
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>>161503189
I don't know. I don't use Acquisition or have your problems. Nothing's preventing anyone from using poe.trade without Steam though.
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>>161503493
Is that actually the lightning curse?

Holy crap...

This is why I recommend people picking up a template. The only time I saw newer players not mess up is when they build around ground slam.
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>>161496732
you first
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Path of Building is hands down the best build planner out there. I shall declare it as /poeg/ approved
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>>161503606
no?>??????

I want some GIRL (male) to play poe with..... okay? lol

someone to grind fast with!!! get to maps!!! map with!!! share gear with!!! fun!!!
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>>161503734
g/994143/e76ba354ac/
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I want to calculate raider bf damage vs assassin bf damage, but i need someone to give me the rough equipment that will be used.

For example:

raider: vagan dagger with crit+phys+atk speed, darkray vector, etc

If you can please be specific about the rares (amulet with crit chance+multi for example), it makes it easier for me
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>>161502560

they really should have added cards to the essence tab
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>>161503765
you don't deserve my friendship
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>>161496976
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>>161503917
>/ss/

lol

>>161504045
; ~ ;

then dont answer my posts EVER again
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Help me out on Scorching Ray links pretty please

SR - Elemental Focus - Controlled Destruction - Rapid Decay - Increased Burning Damage - Empower

Are these correct?
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>>161503917
g/988865/daa6561fdc/
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>>161504059
why are you literally ass-raping those stick figures?
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>>161504225
they deserve it
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someone link me breach starter build thx
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>>161503493
>Lightning Strike, Rallying Cry, Ice Crash, Conductivity, Frost Bomb, Ice Nova, Lightning Warp, Storm Call, Herald of Thunder

This makes COMPLETELY no sense
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>>161504289
Templar. Grab firestorm. Vendor recipe a +1 wand. Pick up the obvious nodes. Go Inquisitor.
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>>161504350
>no links

He's levelling the lightning gems and using ice crash to level. It's not a "build" at all
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>>161503656
wait, all i have to do is set a stash tab public and price the items?

that's literally all there is to do?
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Goodnight, sweet prince

I will surely miss you, even if my GPU shall not
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>>161503759
How accurate is this thing?

I'm simulating with a 15c weapon and 1 unique jewel (I have 6 in the build) + Devoto's and I get this dps. I do only have 180% life though (fuck life on the right side).
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>>161503917
>>161504175
>tfw you've already read everything you like
>tfw it takes me 2+ hours to get off now
>tfw dead inside and outside
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>>161504143
Increased Burning Damage is absolute garbage, use Faster Casting instead, you need the cast speed or the QoL is horrible.
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>>161504521
Yes.
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>>161504548
the autists on reddit say within 5%
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>>161504606
Alright, that probably makes sense. Turning isn't great.
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>>161504143
cut burning damage, add faster casting.

try swapping rapid decay for inc duration, honestly not sure how the net dps there works out.
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>>161503376
https://discord.gg/tDUXN
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>muh dps

silly analavians
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>>161504175
Cute.
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>>161504623
looks like i googled the wrong tutorial.

thanks breh.
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What auras/curses/buffs would raider bf and assassin bf respectivly run?

Trying to calc their dps with the new shiny tool
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>>161496976
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>>161496976
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>>161504526
This was probably the last good build duelist will ever receive. It wasn't even intentional; it just happened.

This build was more than princely. It was the pinnacle of all mechanics-based builds in PoE.


Just kidding, it was insanely fun and overpowered, literally facetanking and facefucking everything in existence. I'm so fucking sad it's gone, even though it was obvious it was going to die.


>>161504562
I'm pretty sure I could make you come if I stuck my 6Link Disfavour inside of your quivering Vintkar Flask.
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>>161497389
>>161497892
ban
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>essence tab
> you have to pay for it
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>>161504562
> tfw started out reading and fapping to straight shit when young
> eventually hentai stuff
> then later on very slowly dickgirls
> much later gay stuff
> straight stuff doesn't even do anything for me now
.__.;
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>>161505292
>you can literally just use a regular tab
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ITT
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So /poeg/ i'm a dirty filthy diablo 3 casual who played a marauder to act 2 in the last two days before the essence league closed andwants to participate in the next league when it goes live.

I want to play something like my witch doctor jade harvester build (lots of DoTs and debuffs) and I've found what looks like a decent guide for a similar build (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdGaJ_3wCEw&t=175s).

Is this a decent build to start playing with? Is it even a good idea to look at build guides starting out? Am I going to get called a faggot because I played diablo 3 first?
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>>161504830
>>161505443
Daily reminder everyone please join the discord if you're not in the discord you are a poop bird
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>>161505292
>more essences fit in a normal tab
>you're paying for a "combine all" button and to lose stash space

and people will pay.
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>>161505601
like the currency stash tab its just an extra tab for essences
i still dont see the point considering essences didnt really accumulate out of control since you could just upgrade them
even less now since essences wont drop as frequently
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>>161505564
Yes to all your questions.
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>>161505564
>ED Occu Witch
Literally able to do endgame stuff i also found her very fun but that depends n what you like,although i didn't watch the whole vid so i dunno about this specific one.
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>>161505564
The guy that makes those is Brazilian.

Take that as you will.
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>All those Raider buffs
So Raider is the Broken As Fuck Ascendancy this League, yes?
But if I go CI, which 2 paths do I take? Phasing and Frenzies (Plus 8-10 Frenzy Charges) or Onslaught?
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>>161505564
ED contagion can scale to endgame
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>>161506143
>going onslaught
>ever
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>>161506143
well..obviously you want to generate FREEEEEEEEEEEE frenzy charges right?? and you also want FREE immunity to all status ailments right??
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>>161505564
It is a very good idea to look at build guides starting out.
That build and a thousand derivatives of it can do pretty much everything in the game.
Just a fair warning, when you finally reach end-game, you'll learn you're gonna need a bit deeper understanding of mechanics and the like.
For example: Most builds have their go-to flasks they run for most Maps and many bosses. But, sometimes you'll need to change your flasks, which is a common new player's mistake even if they follow a guide. If a map has lots of Ignite, you want to carry a Anti-burn Ruby Flask. Etc.
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>>161506387
There's no question I'm going Phasing, that shit's retarded now. Especially since:
>Can generate Frenzy Charges off hitting a boss
>At max, you have Phasing
>Immune to Elemental Ailments
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>>161505601
The Essence tab holds higher stacks (5000), so it holds more.
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>>161506407
How concerned should i be about buying gear? I've seen talk here and there that you need to be actively trading with players to find the gear you need for your build
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>>161505007
I only played Wormblaster the Second, but I just love the build as a concept because of how much it must have frustrated the GGG balance team. It's every incarnation was just so ridiculously overpowered, and every time they tried and failed to destroy it, it just came back stronger.

Like, I'm just imagining a GGG dev banging his head against a wall while a printed photo of the The Writhing Jar is pinned to a dartboard nearby.
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So, here is my first try at comparing assassin bf vs raider bf.

I used roughly the same offensive slots for both (phys vagan dagger, abyssus, void heart, crit ring and crit amulet).

I left the second weapon slot open cause i dont know if you run a shield there of if its an offensive slot?

Anything else i missed?
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>>161505601
I'll buy one because I'm not a poorfag :^)
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>>161506650
>abyssus

jesus christ fuck off
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>>161506648
It was indeed very much like this, and hilarious.
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>>161506724
Ì just took the items from whatever was the highest thread on the forum at the time for the build, feel free to suggest improvements
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>>161506621
Honestly, with Essence Drain as a whole and Essences being rolled into base game, you can mostly ignore trading, but by the time you hit Merciless, it's a good idea to go visit poe.trade and shop around, cause you should have a modest pile of currency, enough to buy up enough shit to cap resists at least, so you can safely map.

Solo Self-found is something some people do, but I wouldn't recommend it. You don't have to be trading 24/7, but do check up on pricing once in a while on the stuff you want.
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>>161506810
i suggest you play hc and learn the game properly on your own
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I kinda want to make a Fireball Deadeye to fuck around desu.I'm sure it'd barely make it to maps but maybe it'd be fun?
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>>161506904
I don't care about these builds at all, i just want to do the math since i saw a lot of discussion about it
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>>161506825
last question are summoner builds any good? I want a d2 necromancer style character at some point
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>>161506650
Now post the defensive comparisons.
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Idea for Wormblaster 4:

Bino's + Consuming Dark + Infernal Mantle + Pyre for 55% fire->chaos conversion, Vortex + Controlled Destruction + Ele Focus + Void Manipulation + AoE/Increased Duration. When you meet a boss, burst them with Wither Totem + 12 worms. EZ 13 stacks of poison that scales off Controlled Destruction + spell damage.
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>>161506904
>i suggest you play HC

M-muh superior league SHITCROWS NEED NOT APPLY. Oh no I pooped my diaper
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>>161505582
go back there.
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>>161507114
Worms are kill bruh
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>>161506650
>Using Hatred and Herald of Ash
This is pretty retarded as assassin.
You could be running Blasphemy with Vul and Ass Mark + Arctic Armour
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>>161507185
Say that to my face in discord faggot
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>>161507037
They're bretty good. You don't need a lot of gear to get them going.
POE zombies are like D2 skeletons.
POE spectres are like D2 revives.
POE skeletons are bad.
POE raging spirits are sort of like D2 bone spirits but can hit multiple times.
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>>161506980
i dont care about your math at all because it's irrelevant shit
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>>161507091
I will if you can tell me the ES values of the average armor slots, i need to import the items manually into the program and i dont know much about ES items
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>>161507037
Yes, they're really good actually, thanks to many QoL changes and buffs over the years, there's only really one Summoner type that has serious trouble with large amounts of content, that being a Skeleton Summoner.
Classic Summoner, Zombies, Spectres, Skeletons, and maybe some Raging Spirits now that the cap is 20, works great and only suffers from one serious flaw that makes the build unplayable for many people:
>All permanent summons besides an Animated Guardian are lost on logout
>This means that you have to run around and get new Spectres every time you want to play
>Couple this with your Spectres having their level based on the area you raised them in, your shit gets kinda weak in higher maps unless you get lucky enough to find one/do a map that has them
>They rarely die nearly as much thanks to the Soul Eater Jewel, but it still happens and when you lose them, you gotta go get new ones or be down a fucking ton of DPS
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>>161496083
>>161496219
BF Raider is in no way better defense than Assassin. Yes, you can overcap crit easily on Assassin but you don't actually do that unless you're retarded. You put those points into defense on the tree instead.

I wish it wasn't since I love the idea of Raider, but it's still not better than any other ascendancy for any build.
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>BF Raider is in no way better defense than Assassin
stopped reading there

just another literal shitbird who thinks dying is an option
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>>161507406
Elemental Status Immunity without Flasks is pretty good.
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>>161507198
First Wormblasters didn't need flask upkeep. It was Wormblaster 3 (the best one albiet) that had infinite upkeep.

That being said Vortex AoE naturally sucks.
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>>161507204
>blasphemy ass mark as assassin

get out shitcrow
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>>161507246
Posting discord links is advertisement which is a bannable offense, buttface.
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>>161507406
Really? Raider offers 6% dodge, status ailment immunity, lots of movespeed and phasing.

Can assassin make up for that with some extra nodes?
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>>161507562
Don't act like anime girls aren't a sales pitch
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>>161505564
Contagion is your locust swarm, ED is your haunt. You don't have anything bursty like set effect soul harvest, but shit will still die fine.
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>>161507582
>Raider offers 6% dodge, status ailment immunity, lots of movespeed and phasing.
Spell dodge too desu.
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>>161507658
Sales pitch to my cock, yes.
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>>161507562
I didn't post the link and you wanna explain why multiple other generals have Discord links listed in the OP then?
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>>161507801
Stop trying to solicit me into your hedonistic lifestyle Anon. I'm in a vulnerable state and it's appealing to my inner nature.
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>>161507775
>>161506650
how do you generate power charges with that? I normally link coh+ass mark+herald of ice
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>>161507808
Some hate them some don't. Discord just diverges conversion making /poeg/ slower, really what's the point? Stop being a faggot and just post here or setup a guild.
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>>161507858
>give away
>The default price is 10c
Giveaways don't have entry fees.
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>>161507559
Nigger
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>>161508019
i posted the link to discord
i also autistically bump the thread on page 9-10 so don't worry desu
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>>161507114
Pretty sure they have finally killed Wormblaster now, you just can't gain enough flask charges.
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>>161507858
sometimes i forget that the scams i see in eve system chat are the ones that've stood the test of time as not complete shit
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>>161507523
>>161507582
Elemental immunity is nice, but you're wasting the best part of the ascendancy to get it. The only reason to pick new Raider is the Onslaught path for the move/attack speed. If you're skipping the offensive potential of an offensive minded ascendancy you need to reconsider the choice of ascendancy.
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>>161508019
also there has been a guild for years
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>>161507252
>He doesn't know

Triple flameruk is where it's at
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>>161508149
They don't like people having fun and their game can't even handle fun.
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>>161508181
oh
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does the new patch change anything about the guardian auraslut support builds for next league or will they be pretty much the same?
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>>161508019
we're in the discord because we don't like shitcrows with their shit builds and shit opinions, desu
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>>161507858

Mother fucker I meant default PRIZE you aren't paying for this shit kid lol
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>>161508002
I'm guessing its the usual OoS setup
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>>161508201
and it's been abandontier for years
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>>161508002
Orb of Storms. But while clearing maps the Assasin passive is enough to keep charges up.
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>>161508345
what does that even mean?
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>>161508345
what did you mean by this
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>Looking at sources of Spell Dodge
>See this and how unequivocally ass 3-step is
Who the fuck thought these were a good idea?
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>>161508193
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>>161508435
go back to discord for your spoonfeeding
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>Raider can get 86% Spell Dodge (76 with flask not up)
Neat.
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>>161508345
>people in top 50 every league
>among the first people to clear new content every league

>>161508537
Did they bully you out or what?
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>>161508201
I know, I was in the NSA guild when it first started but after these past 2~ years no one ever seems to mention the guild so I assume its dead.
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>>161507858

I'll participate
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>>161508484
level 55 vs level 69
whats ur point
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>>161508685
>Like 10 minutes in Dried Lake
If they were level 30 or so, I'd agree it's fine, but that's just stupid.
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>>161508149
The Herald of Ash one is still ok, but it's not a great build anyways. Just hae to find proper on kill effects.
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>>161508641
people ask for invites and they get invited. the guy making the op just doesn't want to put it in
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>>161508609
>people
plural? every league?

i agree, bloodlines was a fun time.

>Did they bully you out or what?
Like you're trying to do now? No. Post a new poll for a guild tag though, that went well.
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berserker > juggernaut
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>>161508596
>Dodge Attacks and Dodge Spell Damage are both capped at 75%.
Uhhh

Also, spell dodge's quite useless, especially the ones that you absolutely want to dodge are the ones that are highly telegraphed and will one shot you 25% of the time. You're never gonna wanna risk that.
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>>161508745
So you believe there should be no unique items between level 30 and level 70 ?
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>>161507858
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CI Blade Flurry
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>>161508807
Okay few but yes, every league. I don't know about any polls.
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>>161504562
I love you anon and I hope you learn to love yourself too!
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>>161508807
the polls done
I think <goyim> won
just depends if it's open otherwise the second winner
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>>161506904
>abyssus doesn't work on hc

lmao pleb. you can use anything on HC if you're not a shitter
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>>161508893
Incorrect.
My question is, why make a Unique item that is outright worse than another 100% of the time so very close in level to the one it is inferior to?
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>>161508930
ilu2
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>>161509061
Wen day is dark, I read, remember, and listen to old SS13 stories.
>Butt-bots popped up the other day
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Keep your finnish discord guild in its ghetto, please. Only elite HC players here.
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>>161509061
What do you call this face
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>>161509148
retarded
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>You must not die when there is no penalty for dying
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>>161509191
What did he mean by this?
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>>161509191
? penalty for dying is your character is deleted
thats pretty rough
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>>161509127
let me weave you a tale of robustmas long past
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>>161508798
I'd be nice if the guild was brought back to its glory days. The anons may have been unfunny memesters but they were helpful.
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>>161509132
But Fins run this place.
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>>161507406
>>161507406
>I wish it wasn't since I love the idea of Raider, but it's still not better than any other ascendancy for any build
I agree. Hard to say how they can fix it though.
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>>161509015
One is gated by Atziri and the other is a random drop potentially for leveling. How can you even compare them?
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>>161509191
Yeah I don't "get" when people make a big deal about /deaths. If you're playing softcore it literally doesn't matter as long as your deaths are when you've got no xp to lose or when you're progressing to the endgame. When I play sc I usually end up with like 20 by the time I hit maps just from corpsewalking daresso and dominus instead of like having life and lightning resists.
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>MTX stabs stack up to 5,000
>normal tabs stack to like 10

Amazing.Just when you think it can't get any better. It does. GGG you are a marvel of a company. We need one for div cards while you're at it. So the way things are going, there might be hope for a map tab. Praise Chris
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>>161509353
Fins don't run anything.
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>>161509471
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>>161509471
>dying to dominus
>getting hit by dominus, ever
how bad do you even have to be?
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>>161509148
ohayou dumb newfag
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>>161509564
>uncensored cartoon porn is illegal in Korea
>the kpop culture is extremely sensitive to cleavage or any signs of sexual appeal
>but wearing shorts that look like your underwear is socially accepted
Dumb culture
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>>161509706
their "music" culture consists of strippers dancing in unison and ladyboys
what do you expect from korea?
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>>161509564
I did have a problem in Essence League trying to make space for my 10,000 Shrieking Woe essences. So glad they will now stack up to 5,000. I'm going to save so much space. Thanks GGG.
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>>161509706
the only dumb thing here are anime posters
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>>161509706
Korea is even more fucked up than Japan
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>>161508193
>Only reason to pick new Raiser is the Onslaught path
Onslaught Path gives you
>20% Inc. Attack Damage
>20% Inc. Attack Damage during Onslaught (not affected by Onslaught Effect)
>25% more Melee Evasion (trash)
>15% more Projectile Evasion (also trash)
>40% Onslaught Duration, meaning that on-kill, you get 40% Increased Attack, Cast, and Movement speed for 4.2 seconds
Now let's compare that to the Phasing path:
>40% Elemental Damage, which is negligible for Blade Flurry
>20% Movement Speed while Phasing
>Elemental Ailment Immunity while Phasing
>10% Spell Dodge while Phasing
>6% attack Dodge
>Phasing at Max Frenzy (easier to maintain v. all bosses than Onslaught)
>Phase on Kill while building up Frenzies in general clear
>8% Movement Speed
If I could have all 3 paths I would, but the Frenzy Path is outright the best and the Phasing Path is outright better than the Onslaught path.
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>>161509864
nah, he's okay now He believes.
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>>161509864
Better get off 4chan all together then redditbro
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>>161509404
I feel like Assassin, or ES in general, needs to be brought down a bit before Raider can be worthwhile. Raider's not going to top Assassin for offense, and that's fine. But it means Raider needs to offer better defense and currently a melee based ranger has to waste too many travel points to go CI. As long as CI is far better than life Raider can't be as good as an ascendancy on the north end of the tree.
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>>161509960
>40% Elemental Damage, which is negligible for Blade Flurry
What? that's actually a good amount of damage for Ele BF.
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>>161509610
Usually by watching tv at the same time or by getting tagged and stunned by the lightning hose.
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>some no-name dev out of nowhere comes up with a program that shows your damage, accuracy and everything else pretty much all stats just fine
>we still don't even have accurate tooltips
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>>161510103
Which is inferior to Phys Blade Flurry, the build everyone's running.
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/poeg/ can you make me a raider spectral throw tree?
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>>161510135
Most of the tooltips are irrelevant so who cares if they're accurate or not.
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>>161509960
>25% more Melee Evasion (trash)
>15% more Projectile Evasion (also trash)
but
>10% Spell Dodge while Phasing
>6% attack Dodge
is somehow good? Also, phasing is useful for a BF build? How?
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redpill me on flame golem build
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>>161510229
>Phasing is useful for a BF build?
Yes. The buffs tied to it.
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>>161504562
do you want to be friends
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>>161510135
Will it accurately represent my Explosive Arrow damage? Highly doubt it
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>>161510160
I originally planned phys BF, then realized I need a 4-5 offcolor for max damage and I can't outleech phys reflect easily (maybe with block/granite or something), but you get easy 75% less reflect damage as ele BF.
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>>161510487
>outleech phys reflect
Phys to Lightning gem.
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>>161509583
Except this place and ur mum.
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>>161510335
The elemental status immunity is the only "useful" buff you get that's not matched by the onslaught buffs. Neither phasing nor onslaught should fall off anyway so uptime shouldn't matter.
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>>161510342
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>>161510780
Really mediocre.
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am i the only one that cant stand that zizaran faggot? his whiny voice just pierces my brain not to mention hes actually shit at the game
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>>161510780
neat
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>>161510849
But wait til it's fated, it'll be worse like that power/frenzy charge wand.
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>>161510780
dogshit not even perfect roll kys yourselve shitpeacock
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>>161510881
Hes only popular because theres literally nobody else streaming sometimes.
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Haven't been in the game since snapshot summoner was removed what a good build to easy in this season?
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>>161511042
Summon skeletons is meta
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>>161510780
>upgraded version gives you phasing when you freeze an enemy but removes all of your flask charges
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>>161510881
yea fuck him
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>>161511042
summon skeleton witch/scion
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>>161511162
>>161511243
>le misinformation meme

do you feel clever?
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>>161511272
not as clever as you
how's that for misinformation
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>>161510958
The upgraded version gains You are frozen if you've frozen an enemy recently and Cannot deal damage if you've frozen an enemy recently
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How much armor do I need for mapping?
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>>161511406
0
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My last leauge starter was ice spear GPM chain Got it to red maps and level 91.

This time i think i'm planning on doing Cyclone raider, But i don't know what good synergies i should do. I was thinking some sort of poison bleed cyclone using 2 handed foils and snake bite + voidheart or vegan craft.

Ideas?
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>>161511490
cyclone and a big 2h is all the synergy you need

there's no need to overcomplicate it
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>>161510881
Yeah, OUR IDOL

Z I G G Y D
I
G
G
Y
D

is the only accepted streamer in this general
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>>161511576
don't even joke about that shit
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>>161511490
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>>161511836
Why are you so triggered tonight, Turdturkey? Do you wanna talk about it?
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>>161511490
>Got it to red maps and level 91.
tell me your secrets, I was 80 doing reds
where did the extra 11 levels of xp come from?
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>>161511941
My mom told me I have to evacuate the premise in a week. I have no place to go. One of my younger cousin just got married, and I'm 28 but no job, no social life, and receding hairline.

I graduated from Ivy League but shit just went downhill from there cause of PoE.
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>>161511941
i just got here!

reminder not to help shitcrows, theyll think theyre people.
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>>161510881
I watched his stream occasionally during Talisman, but really cant stand him for more than 5 minutes now. Not sure if he changed or if I just got tired of the voice.
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>>161512176
same thing with my sister that went to Brown.
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>>161510881
same, his voice is the worst shit in the world
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>>161512254
sometimes friends fight
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>>161512030

Last few levels were gorge parties for me.
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>>161510881
>world first hc shaper kill
>actually shit at the game
you reek of jealousy, kid
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>>161510848
is that a yes or a no
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are these streams really just gonna sit afk for another 2 days?
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>>161512701
youre championing a streamer who will never give a shit about you.
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Reminder
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also wtf why does iamqtpie have an asian girl on his stream
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>>161512913
yes because youre watching it like an obese
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our guys:
havoc (semi-retired)
etup (semi-retired)
bob (retired)
hans (retired)
kripp (retired)

our girls:
esk
pressstarttopaws

reddit's guys:
mathil
ziggyd
raiz
projectpt
zeno (retired)
nugiyen (retired)

autists:
steelmage
mors (retired)
ghudda (semi-retired)
bakedchicken (retired)
zizaran

irrelevant trash:
everyone not mentioned
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>>161513039
i want to sniff paws' smelly bum after a long day of mapping!
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>>161513039
cancerous post
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>>161512701
wasnt that raiz
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i quit you
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>>161513039
wrong
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Was anyone else really disappointed when they clicked on that bobbistargalactica girl's stream and it wasn't actual Bobbi Starr?
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>1-5
Special snowflake build
>6-0
Blade flurry
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slayer glacial hammer herald of ice frostbite/hatred

am I retarded?
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>>161513493
wish i could tamer my wires

and my farts rofl
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>>161513574
>glacial hammer
>non-anime pic
yes
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>>161513574
Yes. Glacial Hammer is outright worse than Ice Crash.
>Doesn't require Melee Splash
>Oh, but Freeze!
Is ass against Bosses and thus, irrelevant, if you hit hard/fast enough, everything else pops before it's a problem anyway.
>Does outright less damage at all levels
>Less restrictive weapon choices
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what other half of the Raider ascendancy would be best for a phys/crit flickerstrike build? onslaught with crazy attack speeds or phasing for ele status immune?
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>>161513813
>More restrictive weapon choices*
>>161513889
If going CI, you want that Status Immunity so you can run more broken Unique Flasks and not carry around shitflasks.
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>>161513889
>Flicker
You get way more than enough Attack Speed for Flicker, so Phasing.
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>>161513813
I'm going to play ice crash instead of EQ!
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>>161513967
>>161514075
thanks
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>>161513039
This can't be right, because this means reddit has no girls.
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>>161514130

but why?
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at first I was hyped for the essence stash tab, but then I realized that I didn't even manage to fill half a tab with essences this league and they're easy to find with the stash search feature. Currency tab was useful because of how much space small stacks of currency took up but with essence vendor recipes it's not that common to have a tab completely full of essences.
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tabs of exile
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Anyone else here really like how blade flurry plays but won't be playing it because it will be meta?
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>>161506650
what the FUCK
why would I go for >muh immune to status ailments when all I want to do is farm guardians/uber atiziri AS FAST AS POSSIBLE for ez money? literally what's the use of phasing, status ailments immunity, 6 and 10 dodge (lol) in those fights?
I guess raider is the go-to ascendancy if you want to farm dried lake and t8 maps for 3 weeks
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>>161514130
Except a single combined Earthquake hit with first AoE and 2nd bigger one (can be very fast with less Duration, a potent gem Ice Crash can't even use) hits for 272.5% of your weapon's attack total (before More damage from Less Duration and other supports) while Crash hits one time for 184.2/156.57/128.94 in roughly the same time (before Supports)
>Earthquake also has a larger AoE overall and is thus safer
>You're also attacking less often with Crash
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how expensive are crit daggers/swords/Binos gonna be in Breach?
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>>161496976
This drawing makes more sense than the actual build.
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>>161514681
But I like how it looks, fucking buff it and remove the retarded multistrike restriction
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>>161514502
im not that retarded
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>>161514821
dang
i thought my mspaint skills were good
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>>161514783
Very.
Like "If you aren't a retard, play basically anything else, cause it's gonna be fucking expensive" expensive.
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>>161514783
Good ones extremely expensive. But you don't need a great dagger for BF.
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>>161514624
It's not his fault you're an autist with the lames goals for your build.
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>>161514821
yeah, i would much rather look at mspaint builds then people retarded trees
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>>161514624
You do realize that before getting to the guardians/shaper/uber atizri, you need to farm many yellow vaaled t14+ maps right?
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>>161514783
Scaeva will be like 2c and it will suffice until you've got money.
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>>161514835
GGG doesn't like you. Thus, you don't get what you want.
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were essences even worth using?
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>>161515049
Yeah.
Even more so now that the shittiest ones can't drop in maps.
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>>161515049
Did you not play Woe-crafting League?

Essences are nerfed now though.
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>free t1 rolls
>not worth using
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>>161515139
fag
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is it retarded to fill out the Atlas completely SSF? White and yellow maps aren't that hard to fill out only depending on your own drops, but I feel like red maps are definitely very hard to fill out without buying from others.
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imagine unironically watching streamers like ziz or mathil
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playing ssf in itself is retarded
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nice general poetards
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>>161515231
Yes. Solo Self-found on the Atlas is only viable when GGG changes that bullshit with Unique Maps and "Sustainable" map drops isn't defined as "a map drop or you got enough currency and shit from the map to buy a replacement."
I.E. never.
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>>161515231
Good luck getting Perandus Manor etc. You need next level autism for that.
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literally this thread
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>>161515249
mathils voice is even more obnoxious than ziz
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when is /ourguy/ back from new zealand lads?
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Is it viable to go vaal spark dried lake farming as first league character, or is that a dumb idea?
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>>161515395
>GGG changes that bullshit with Unique Maps
yeah unique maps are bullshit: the only way you gonna get them is through div cards really. An easy solution to begin would be if unique maps granted by zana would account for the atlas. I understand why normal maps don't work, as Zana's mission mods are only somewhat comparable to transmuted maps, less so to alched or corrupted ones, but her unique maps are literally 1:1 the same as the normal one
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>>161515395
this
it definitely felt like red maps are not "sustainable" in the slightest without buying the first one of any type of red maps to enlarge your possible map drop pool.
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>>161515649
thats a boring fucking idea. have fun with that while we play the game
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>>161515395
>>161515665
i actually excluded Unique maps in my mind when I was talking about filling out the Atlas because it was obvious from the start that this would be impossible to do SSF.
It's bullshit, really. Uniques shouldn't give Atlas Bonus and Shapers Orb drops should not be on Unique Maps either.
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>>161515890
>unironically playing SSF in 2016
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>>161516037
>Judging how others have fun
>666+666+666+6+6+6
Shameful, really.
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Is desecrate's damage not affected by increased spell damage?
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>>161515751
>have fun absolutely dominating the market while us turdbirds rip countless bino's
ftfy
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>>161515890
>Shaper's Orb on Death and Taxes
I mean, I didn't WANT to have more high tier maps...
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1-3 pizza sticks
4-7 AW
8-0 blade flurry
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>>161514383
>>161514681
>>161514835

That's not the only thing:

> first strike of EQ has a bit less AoE than ice crash, aftershock massively more AoE than ice crash
> Ice crash has 20% attack speed penalty
> Ice crash overall suffers AoE issues that EQ doesn't due to the aftershock (and generally safe because you can just put an aftershock and then run).

ice crash 184.2% weapon damage on the single target you hit (requires you to actually hit the target), 15% less for closest target and 30% closest for furthest. 15% less = 156.57% damage and 30% less =128.94

So most mobs you're hitting with a slightly stronger attack than earthquake base, but it also gets penalized by attack speed which makes it worse. When you factor in the aftershock from earthquake, earthquake is far superior.

Running ice crash at the moment is like playing earthquake without aftershock effect. On most builds you can replace ice crash for earthquake and instantly have better AoE and better damage. Maybe tooltip of ice crash is like 10% higher, but that is for the single target melee hit ice crash, everything else is lower and earthquake doesn't factor in the aftershock.

tl;dr :
Earthquake is way better than ice crash

>>161514835
I actually posted on reddit and the forums a while back on how to make ground slam and ice crash more equal, both got plenty of upvotes and responses and I even commented with them right under a GGG post but it seems GGG completely ignored the balance issues. It really isn't so difficult balance wise to get the damage values at least a bit closer when it comes to ground slam and ice crash compared to EQ.
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>>161515496
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>>161516253
post ur pizza sticks tree
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>>161516337
I'm sorry, Anon, but GGG don't want to balance the game. They want to put out enough bullshit to keep the majority happy and thus get money. Balancing dead skills won't do that. Providing shiny, cool, new stuff and buffing old "fan favorites," does.
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>>161516337

How would you fix ground slam?

Because I want to enjoy ground slam but really can't with how pitiful it is
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>>161516452
no
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>people complaining about things inherent within SSF
fucking kill yourselves you retarded whiny jews
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>>161516627
i won't post mine
ur builds shit and i hope you die while leveling
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>>161516849
>die while leveling
>resurrect at checkpoint

:^)
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>>161516037
enjoy playing this shit game with others. great community.
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>another league
>still no SSF tags
>still no demi for 1st 100
>still no separate chat tab for whispers
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>>161516849
>ywn bully machi with your dick until she's a broken, crying mess
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life based FB totem:

poeurl.com/SzG
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>>161516986
SSF_ is like a tag.
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>>161517113
>life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vodq_CYtRYs
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>>161516940
Enjoy playing limited # of builds because you can't get any build enabling uniques.
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This actually looks good, shame the original armour pieces are like 5 years old now
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>>161517238
but SSF is full of cheating faggots, because that's the sort of person that SSF attracts

I mean, just look at catposter
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>>161515649
Is vaal spark even viable that early in a league? I was always under the impression that it some steep gear requirements to even work.
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>>161517238
need a legit way to select SSF at char creation which puts a little SSF symbol next to your char name that prevents you from ever trading or partying with someone
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>>161517327
first of all i don't fucking cheat
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>>161517297
once im done ill take my stack of maps, cash em in, and make the 2 new builds that are interesting every league.

>>161517327
>SSF is full of cheating faggots
it's full of you. stick around and "cheaters" leave. they aint effecting you at all anyway.
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>>161517327
>cheating faggots
Then you're not in it for the "Solo Self-found," you're in it for the e-peen. If you go SSF and stick to it, then that's all there is to it, nobody can impact you but yourself and what GGG lets drop.
But if you have to announce to the world "I play Solo Self-found," then you're just another attention whore who should be ignored.
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could easily get away with being #1 on the SSF ladder while cheating by running a 2nd trade account
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>>161517242
someone asked. i thought. you can transition into a diff build if you got the cash or CI gear ready. kind of the point of a starter build. CI FB totems:

poeurl.com/SzV
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>>161517843
you dont need a 2nd account. no one will check or care. youre also too shit to hit #1 on it because youre literally a worse player than a gimped PT
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>>161518075
if you're #1 people will be checking, buttface
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Does SSF still count if you mule skill gems from other characters?
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>>161516498
Sadly this is true. If you look at new skills, they almost always outclass the older ones. They also want to keep skills like cyclone around for whatever reason, it's clear GGG has favourites and its hurting balance. This is not just for older melee gems but also for caster gems. The newly released gems outdo each other every single time (just look at bladefall, blade vortex and now blade flurry).

>>161516609
Ground slam: Scale up towards 185% damage multiplier (instead of current 120% at lv 20). The stun chance it has is really nice, so overall damage needs to be a little lower than if you build specifically for earthquake. 185% would put it in a competitive range though, which would be a 50% damage buff but it's what's needed to keep it on par with other spells and melee skills.

Ice crash: remove attack speed penalty, reduction from 30/15% to 10/5%, quality on ice crash gem gives increased area of effect (to 10%). This way it deals still less damage than earthquake but since you have a lot of cold damage and aren't hindered by attack speed you can just stack attack speed and make some kind of freeze everything build.


Idk if some would need more damage, but with ice crash and ground slam I feel like it is mostly damage. Earthquake just scales so much better than ice crash and ground slam that it isn't even worth to consider those two for anything since earthquake will do it better.
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>>161518375
Yes
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>>161495997
Gonna try to work up a spectral throw raider before tomorrow.
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>>161518693
phys or ele
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I love watching anime and playing path of exile in hardcore leagues!
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Just a friendly reminder that Ica Nova/Shock Nova/Vortex totems have a better map clear speed than fb totems.
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>have to play minesweeper for another 1 day and 18 hours
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post your favorite non-weapon uniques /poeg/
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>>161515139
i want to strangle him and watch the life slowly fade from his eyes(no edgy intended)
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>>161518773
No that anon, but I will try an elemental ET too
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>>161519084
someone tell this nerd he's wrong
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>>161519163
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Solo or group levelling?
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>>161519163
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>>161519163
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>>161519515
Solo because no friends who play this game.
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>>161519728
do you want to be friends
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>>161519832
Not really.
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is ziggyd belt going to be available for 2.5?
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>>161518773
>>161519191
Actually after some reading I'm pretty sure mathils variation of godess unleashed is gonna be crazy with raider with the changes.

Also I guess blade flurry completely outdoes spectral throw on all points except the aesthetics. Spectral throw should still be viable though
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>>161519163
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>>161517327
I've played SSF 100% legit to level 89 twice

basically its a fun struggle for gear etc and then you hit mid to high 80s and realize your still doing tier 5s and getting 15m an hour

its not worth or possible for GGG to make an SSF exclusive ladder because the stashes would be separate realm etc.
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What would be the best skill to use alongside Emberwake? Barrage? Also, If I use the new bow, Xoph's Inception, would the ignite stacks spread to nearby enemies?
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>>161519163
you know it to be true
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>>161520902
Yes, but that would be dumb

80% Less damage destroys any hope of your burns killing anything
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>>161521098
>being this retarded
Don't forget to breathe, anon.
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>>161521098
Wormblaster #5: stack 12 ignites at once with Herald of Ash + Xoph's Inception + Emberwake. The taming is a bonus but probably not worth it.
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>wormblaster
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>>161521495
>wormblaster
>shitcrow
You realize there are wormblaster builds that can facetank shaper slams, right? The build constantly keeps you at full HP even with nothing nearby to leech off of.
(You)
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haha ok whatever you say
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>>161521550
not anymore
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>>161521550
That one's been nerfed the fuck to the ground though. Writhing Jar is kinda survivable thanks to the fact they're also instant life flasks but you have to use them to do damage vs bosses so you get fucked anyways.
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Just read the patchnotes.

What the hell?

They're specifically making raiders the meta this league? Why? They want another pathfinder? Two ascendancy meta?

With no changes to ES being the only worthwhile defence too I notice. And they dumpstered mjolner and cospri's because fuck all cast-on-trigger I guess.

Not even convinced blade vortex is being nerfed. That wording is really fucking confusing.
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>>161520996
>No other leveling boots exist.jpg

Whats the matter kid? Too scared to use nomics?
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>nomics
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>>161521731
>raider
>meta

Literally nothing changed about raider except that you dont have to swap to your quillrain frenzy every 15 seconds on bosses
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So is Juggernaut still good at what it does - never ever dying?

Or should I go for an offensive ascendancy this time?
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>>161521731
i honestly dont know what the fuck theyre doing

not sure whether or not they saw the fucking video of the guy killing shaper in 45 seconds(huhuhuhuh this is our hardest content!!!)

not to mention they havnt released an ACTUAL good build enabling/build making unique in years, the last one was skyforth and that was a supporter designed unique.

they keep releasing these dog shit meme gimmick build uniques for all the stinky little reddit memelords to go haha i can do this and then do this and now my freezing pulse is purple watch me do the lake xD
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>>161521957
it's fine
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>>161521953
100% uptime on phasing, onslaught and frenzy charges with 50% increased effect is nothing then? My bad I guess.
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>>161521957
yes except now you aren't phys immune 100% of the time
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>>161522108
>picking 12 ascendancy points

ok dude
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>>161522108
good 8 ascendancy point build.
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>>161521767
I might use it if I got 40% up all the time, the way its built it isnt worth it.

the only other boots are seven-league step, but not everybody can afford one
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>>161522113

I never use IC anyway so I guess that's something

I liked having all those charges up for less ele damage taken and sick regen from my kaom's way
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>>161522353
you came to the right place!
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>>161522353
can you play 8-10 hours a day?
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>>161522353
Do I get to call you daddy?
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>>161522353

>playing with other people
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>>161522353
>real life dad here
daughters?
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>>161522491
>not getting solo loot in 2017
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>>161522478
>>161522491
anime was a mistake
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>>161521941
they are gud boots my friend, just believe in your logoutmacro!
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>Raider buffed to be sanic fast and compete in damage with Slayer/Berserker
>melee targetting buffed

And the shit still not fixed
>armour and evasion are worth fuckall
>life still gets 1-shot
>life flasks are still shit
>NO skill gems which are dogshit were buffed like even Glacial Hammer, Glacial Cascade, even melee gems like Heavy Strike

Like seriously why use Cleave when you can literally wipe a screen with Freezing Pulse (a shit skill) - which is still superior to melee because it wipes a screen?

>muh single target

BLADE FLURRY powercreep is stronger than any other melee skill in damage scaling.

Don't even forget that Vaal Pact and +10k ES still exists, if you want to play ezmode neverdie.

Fucking GGG is actually so fucking incompetent. Another league of stack life until you get cucked from a one-shot and then fund a CI character in less than 20c which will have 2x the actual health.
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>>161523514
>melee targeting buffed
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>>161523596
If you're playing melee you better be doing:

A: Earthquake
B: Reave(gl getting a 350+ pdps ambusher)
C: Dual-strike(gl getting a 350+ dps siege axe and youre still gonna have 6k life lol bringer of rain in 2027)
D: Log out and reroll Blade flurry CI
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>>161523535
Let me rephrase.

I'll be able to play 2-4 hours on work nights, 3-6 /8ish if I'm lucky.

Luckily as a guardian there will be no trouble finding people to party with, I just want some non shit non Reddit scum players to eventually map/breach (if you know what I'm saying) with.
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>>161523694
No I mean, melee targeting was changed right? how is it now? or is the patch for it not out yet?
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>>161519163
Pretty much the standard for ES boots.
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>>161523596
They're changing how namelocking works to make it less awful. They're also obsoleting all the melee skills with Blade Flurry :V
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>>161523721
3-6 / 8ish if I'm lucky on non work days. God I can't make correct posts to save my life. Guess that's why I'm planning on going guardian kek
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>>161523816
>They're changing how namelocking works to make it less awful.
How?
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>>161519163
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>>161495636
Friendlings. I bought the breachlord pack because I loved the cape. Can anyone give me a build that would go well with Dormammu I've come to bargain?
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>>161523774
yeah it was supposedly improved but changing how you target with things like dual strike doesnt help because the maximum life/defences and damage output you can acquire is still dog shit so i wouldnt worry about it

basically GGG wants to keep the retard speed whirling blades meta because thats what all the stinky little redditors that donate for supporter packs enjoy playing 'tastemyCOCxD: any1 wanna chain gorges with me?'
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>>161523889
We'll know when the patch is out.
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>>161523816
Namelocking still won't fix melee because there were practically no number changes for damage.

This is hugely important in reddit's beloved clearspeed meta. After all why would anyone click once (assuming that's how it works), clear a pack and walk to the next when you can blow it up a screen away and then whirling blades through. Even Earthquake will be faster than regular melee abilities.
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>>161523535
>she's kinda at the point where she needs lots of stimulation
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>>161524143
Numerical changes won't change the fact that you can't instantly clear the entire screen with a namelock ability.
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what's going to be the best class for tornado shot now? Is pathfinder still the way to go?
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>>161524296
I don't know about you but increased AoE on Cleave and damage to 1-shot regularly would help a lot more with trash mobs.
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>>161524448
That's not a namelock melee ability.
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>>161524683
based retard
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UGH i'm gonna have to respec over 30 points to change from life to CI with my blade flurry build
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>>161524803
Good thing you get twenty something respec points from quests.
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>>161524803
How much life are you getting before you respec?
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>>161524803
respec sooner. you only need 3k life to get to merc dried lake
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>>161525113
230% by lvl90
>>161525116
can't get rich enough off dried lake
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>>161525174
youre retarded and have a stupid plan
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>>161525297
lmao what're you gonna do farm dried lake until you can afford CI gear LMAO
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>>161525350
youve never made a CI character before. stop talking. just leave.
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>>161525350
>lmao
>LMAO

You told HIM. Whew!

Pwned
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>>161525409
haha ok have fun farming dried lake to 90
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>>161525350
you can literally craft a full set of medium level ES gear (read: twice your fukin lifepool) with 500 alts a handful regals and lvl 4 masters
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MoM Hierophant stronk

>40% more EHP
>free ES
>add in Pledge of Hands
>reduced mana cost despite 7 link
>easily 3k mana

the question is what spell do I use besides firestorm
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I_NO chan best girl
Ziz faggot
Kripp traitor turned into blizzard drone

Why do people think Ziggy is good? Kids a casual

worlds going into shit
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>>161525761
while you're farming dried lake for alts i'll be doing t10 maps
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someone link me blade flurry raider build thanks
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free catposter
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>>161525925
inb4 rip
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>>161525808
It's still clunky as fuck because MoM doesn't apply to ES, but heirophant gives extra ES based on mana.

Also
>no damage

To answer your question though: Bladefall, Fireball, Arc, Spark would all probably work.

Consider, though: Molten Shell using a Scold's Bridle to trigger it with each cast.
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so I want to try some of the other AoE melee skills that aren't EQ

Cleave, Sweep or Ground Slam?
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can EQ slayer farm uber lab effectively as a SSF league starter?

im sick of playing witch/templar/ranger charas
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My Breach build is basically identical to my Essence league build, despite being built around different skills. When did PoE get this boring
Blog
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>>161526458

either that or jug are safe as fuck for crushing lab
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>>161507037
>>161507402
Summoners are very solid, but can be quite hard to get started with. I run a summoner build pretty much every league, and have done so since way before ascendancies were a thing, and think I've figured out the most efficient setup. What I ran last league;
+2 minion helmet: Zombie-Minion damage-Melee splash-fortify, these are your tanks and general trashclearers. Heavy damage per hit and a lot of AoE when they gang up on a pack. Almost never die, only against some bosses. Level a few extra gems in your weaponswap to vaal for a lvl21 gem.
+2fire/+1gems wand: SRS-Minion damage-Melee phys, lots of singletarget dps. Now that max spirits are 20 but damage have been increased to compensate this should be even better. Only had like 35 up at a time last league due to no spellecho/castspeed linked, now we'll be at max spirits all the time.
Gloves/boots: ball lightning-CoH-Enfeeble-Tempchains. EE from tree, so you lower fire/coldres.
Gloves/boots: Generosity-Hatred-Flesh offering-bone offering (or put all auras here, just dont link all sockets so that only hatred has generosity)
Shield: desecrate, 2 auras/offerings depending on gems in boots.
Chest: Stone golem-Spectre-Minion damage.
Rest of the links depend on what spectres you want to run. This league I went with a 5link with Added fire-inc AoE and used either evangelists or those bladevortex guys.
For gear: the council gloves are amazing. You'll be at roughly 100% of phys added as cold or something. Very good with your EE. The minion speed penalty is easily offset by a single piece of Essence of fear jewelry. Preferably you'll run 3 such pieces if you manage to roll something good.
Victarios charity is a great shield. For maximum offense, go necro aegis to generate shittons of frenzy and power charges for all minions. However, I went without it to get some extra defense for myself. You'll still generate max frenzycharges for your minions with your ball lightning.
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>>161526556

thanks fampai

i wanna be a melee man. im sick of this magic shit

can you believe that I have never beaten dom with marauder or duelist before
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>>161526528
Dull people live dull lives.
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>>161507402
Skeleton summoner can be really strong, actually, you just need to have some fairly specific gear setups to make it do work
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>>161526528
support skills dumbed down to "more damage"
that and you've figured out the game that once looked complicated
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>>161526779

i would agree but skeleton ai is really shit
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>>161526735
All my characters since ascendancy have been beserker
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>>161526693

I've never played mages or archers desu

always some form of melee
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>>161527015

your are smart

a man can only look at so many sparks and firestorms before contemplating self termination

i also havent ever played scion
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>>161527109
you missed out on voltaxic scion spark
was fun
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>>161526662
cont;
Curses and auras depends on personal taste. I prefer enfeeble-tempchains for the defensive boosts, as you're not too durable yourself. Never bothered with tricurse, but if I did I'd go for eleweakness or frostbite as a third, due to the high amounts of elemental damage. You basically get a free eleweakness from EE though.
I usually run Purity of elements and grace for my other auras. Grace could be switched for haste or anger in your generosity setup if you need more offense, but grace is very good for the defense of both yourself and minions combined with your high effect enfeeble (especially a 20% enfeeble).

I think that's all. Oh and stay out of harms way. You'll probably get oneshot if a big hit lands on you. I only had like 4k life 1kES in essence, with only grace and enfeeble for damage avoidance. Which worked quite well though, just dont rush in before your minions.
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>raider is my favorite ascendancy
>barely play it because it's just not that powerful
>gets a shit ton of buffs
>still not better than Assassin
God damn it. All I want is to play a BF character that runs around like sonic while attacking a million times a second but no matter how I try to build it it's flat outdone by a CI Assassin. Maybe in 3.0 when they rebalance life/ES I'll be able to play Raider.
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>>161526446
Reave is my favourite. Probs cleave second.
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>>161523817
fuck off normie
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>bv flaskslut can still keep up vinktar 24/7 and actually does more damage now
wormblaster died for this
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>>161526837
And that the tree is the same as it's been for ages.
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>>161527458
Only if Vinktar is your only flask.
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>>161527319
sorry youre too shit to play what you like and be successful, i guess
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what should i play for flicker strike now? turbo-buffed raider for free frenzy charges or slayer for more damage in the only kinds of maps that I should be using flicker strike (easy ones)
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>>161527319
The only thing Assassin has over Raider now is raw dps numbers, and the gap shrank with the patch. Also, there's nothing stopping you from getting 10k es as a Raider either.
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>>161527521
Not if you get a reduced charges belt. Then you're looking at like 5 seconds to refill vinktar, then you have 2 more seconds of uptime on it to refill your taste of hate and then some.
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>>161526876
Doesn't matter when every other pixel of your screen is occupied by skeletons.
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>>161527561
either's fine
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>>161527319
have fun when it gets gutted in a few leagues from them buffing it and everyone playing it
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>>161527635
>Also, there's nothing stopping you from getting 10k es as a Raider either.
You can only get the +1 frenzy from shadow area if you go CI tho, which is very underwhelming for a raider
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>>161526693
>>161526458
Champion or Jugg are more safe for Uber lab, Slayer is only good for damage and last phase Izaro full that ez cull.
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>>161527635
CI is possible on the raider, no doubt. People went CI with pathfinder so it's obviously doable but it's a lot more expensive. You have a lot of wasted points at the start of the tree and fall even further behind Assassin in damage due to spreading yourself thin trying to pick up Frenzy charges, ES, and crit.
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>>161527419
Mad sperg who hasn't grown up yet detected
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what even is a good DPS bench you want for a build?
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>>161527848
In about a month no one will be playing it. It's like last league when everyone was hyping up their arctic breath builds. In a month everyone will finally admit that yes, Raider is better than before but it's still not that good.
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>>161528181
>caring about DPS

rookie mistake
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>>161528169
at least im not a total faggot who has to beg for friends on 4chan
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>>161528274
wat
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>>161528181

i settle for 20k personally

good enough to slay packs quickly
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>>161528181
kill hillock before he pulls out his sword.
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>>161528491
tutorialcore
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>>161528528
I seriously hope you mean Hillock as in the map boss variant and not the one in the first area
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>>161528491
DPS is not a good measure of damage. it doesnt factor in many many many things, like penetration for instance.

>>161528493
tard
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>>161528274
pretty sure that you need dps too....
because your DPS is your clear speed
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>>161528528
Yeah, kill hillock before he pulls out his sword and delete white packs in one action.
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>>161528586
all of them except the 1st one, obv.
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>>161528616
>because your DPS is your clear speed
false, stop talking. through correcting you.
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>>161528586
Like there's even a difference when both hillock maps are below t7
Get with the times grandpa people are one shorting t15 bosses
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>>161525521
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>>161528610

so what's a good tooltip (as useless as that is) for an EQ character?

not that it matters because that shit oneshots everything that isn't a rare or boss when you're using a marohi
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does anyone want to be friends
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>>161529148
8
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>>161528204
The only thing that made Raider feel like shit to play was trying to keep up frenzy charges for bosses, and that has been completely removed.
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>>161529247
no what makes raider feel shitty to play is this not being perandus league where I can farm 10k coins a day in solaris 1/2
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Reminder crows are actually incredibly intelligent for birds, so "shitcrow" is not an insult.
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>>161529247
that and the lower damage compared to other ascendancies. and that the best skills to go raider aren't top tier (reave, ST, other crap), but blade flurry suits it fine. i like her hair, so im good seeing it all over for a couple weeks
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>>161526446
i have played mostly melee in my ~3k hours played of the game and my experiences have been:

Earthquake: God tier - You can move while doing DPS with this build and you can use a kaom's heart. I can get ~75-250K dps + 10k life with this build, however its very expensive.

Dual-strike: Used to be good but it's now sub-par. Fun build though all you need is a soul taker, bringer of rain and some high resistance gear along with a high dps siege axe. You'll get around 60-120k DPS and ~6-7k life.

Reave: Definitely would want to do this as CI. Only problem you're going to have is getting a high dps dagger since reave is no longer meta and people don't craft ambushers anymore. You can get around 9-11k ES with this build and probably ~80-300K dps.

Any other melee ability: Low tier, not worth playing unless you want to be a memelord who is doing something 'different.'
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>>161527914
>You can only get the +1 frenzy from shadow area if you go CI tho, which is very underwhelming for a raider

what did he mean by this?
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>>161529492
keep pooping in public
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>>161529492
the only thing worse than frogposters and catposters is a crowposter
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>>161529563
EQ is budget friendly i thought
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>>161529563

I was under the impression what make EQ really good was that it does well even with not so great invesment (the most expensive thing for a first timer being a Marohi which is cheap as shit even in a new league)
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>>161529689
>>161529745
it does and is, but i think he meant it's expensive at the level he was describing. (75k+ dps and 10k life)
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>>161529615
>>161529651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbSu2PXOTOc
Crows are literally the master race of birds
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>>161529494
"lower damage" is irrelevant once you reach the point in which you one/two shot mobs, plus everyone keeps overlooking the huge quality of life you get from having a gorillian attack/movement speed that you get from raider/frenzy charges
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>>161529494
Eh, I know everyone is losing their shit over how OP BF is supposed to be but I'm not convinced Raider's good enough to manage end game maps/bosses without exceptional gear like you could on Assassin/Inquisitor even using BF.

Also, ranger's portrait in the skill tree is horrid. I know it doesn't affect anything but holy shit.
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>>161529689
EQ is cheap to start, yet if you want to kill guardians and Shaper you're going to be investing quite a lot.

A Disfavour is around 500 chaos on both leagues a few weeks in. There were a surprising number of Disfavours up on hardcore this league.
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>>161529924
ok but they're still 100 times dumber than a human

congrats on being 100 times dumber than a human
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>>161530017
>ok but they're still 100 times dumber than a human
So are logoutcucks
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>>161530098
SNAP
>>
While we're on the topic of EQ

Is it worth it to pick up leech nodes while using it or are you better off investing in more life/damage/armor?

sustaining it with mana is already ezpz
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the differences between hc and sc are subtle but intrinsic in their nature because of the way the game is played

the sc player does not care if he dies. he'll run through the game with no life, no resistances, no defenses. he won't bother to make sure he can survive a fight before he encounters it. he doesn't care if he does once, twice, or even ten times trying to kill a boss. all the sc player cares about is getting epic loot and fluffing his dps numbers.

the hc player is more diligent and methodical. he can't afford to die. he realizes that he must use everything at his disposal to survive an encounter, because if he dies he has wasted his time. because of this, the hc player focuses primarily on defense; foregoing dps to achieve a more balanced character. this by itself allows the hc player to farm more content more easily and more efficiently than the sc player, and the hc player will only get better as time goes on due to having more experience and wisdom with each passing day. the hc player strives to learn. to educate himself about every mechanic in the game. this process of evolution has allowed the hc player to ascend far beyond the mere mortals. the true measure of a hc player is not their gear, or their dps, or their clearspeed; it's their level. when you see a lvl93 in hc you think: "wow, that guy is good"; when you see a lvl93 in sc you think: "wow, that guy must have died a lot."

in the end, despite sc and hc being identical, the game is played in such a drastically different way that compatibility between the two playerbases is impossible. attempting to blend them is a fool's errand. shitcrows are the proletariat, while HC players are the bourgeoisie. racers are the only breed of player who are better than both, and they're nobility
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>>161530098
damn son
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>>161530232
literally shut thef uck up idiot
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>>161530232
t. hardcuck-with-an-inferiority-complex
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i think im gonna be sick...
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if you play hardcore, fuck you
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>>161530232
>when you see a lvl93 in hc you think: "wow, that guy is good"
but zizaran gets to 100 in hc and everyone still calls him shit
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NEW JEWELS

GOLEMANCER IS GO
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>>161530232
Lol there is 200% chance you have a neckbeard
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>>161530581
What are they?

How many golems can you have max? 4 with witch ascendancy + clayshapers?
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>>161530369
Show me you're demis. Oh that's right fecal fowl, you don't have any.
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Rolling for Breach

1-2 SR
3-4 BF
5-6 bow
7-8 srs
9 oro cyclone
0 skip league
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>>161530727
6 with the new jewel.
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>>161530757
I'm gonna feel like a pokemon master running around with my golem team
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How many uniques are gonna be the up-gradable kind? Did they say?
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>>161530893
Shame theres not a 6th type, so you'd have the balanced team stugff going.

Personally i think i prefer going necromancer still ,better minion nodes. I'll sac the extra golem.

Or, other other option is to go for a Victario shield with elemental equlibrium and ball lightning. Debuff fire resist for 4-5 golems and easy curse + frenzy charges.

Sanic Fire /Ice golems.
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>>161530893
Was already planning on 4 flame golem elementalist... hope the ziggyd video doesn't make clayshapers 1ex or something stupid, the jewels are good but not gamebreaking. I can see the +2 golems one being expensive, but the primordial might jewel that makes their AI super aggressive is the only one that seems 100% required.
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>>161531117
golem ai is kinda doody but fire golem x 6 should be the way to roll
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>>161531005
they said 40 new unique, 25 of this league.
So, i'd suspect something like 10 base item that can be upgraded. Would make it a round 2 unique per breach boss.
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>>161530757
>>161530893
You're probably better off going Necro rather than Elementalist. Even losing the extra golem you'll do more damage and buff them more.
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>>161531221
THat the best part, new jewel give them more agressive AI. I need to see it in action for myself, but if it's agressive enough oh boy
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who /blight/ in 2.5 here
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>>161531353
The golems in the ziggy video use it, they are on enemies like flies on shit. He has flesh offering and minion speed jewelry though but at least they should derp out less.
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>>161531426
I've been out of loop for a month or so, how is blight? I'm planning on doing a ED occultist, and wondering if i should 100% focus on ED or go with blight also for extra DEEPS
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>>161531551
top tier
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>>161531608
Bait. Blight is all but unusable, especially for leveling.
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g'day guys
siggy dee here
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>>161531426
I would've but I played ED for Essence so I need a change of pace that doesn't involve more chaos damage.
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>>161531706
>all but unusable

bait
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>>161531752
ok
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>>161531551
Blight is like Lightning Tendrils if you had to wait 4 seconds after casting for it to do damage. It's dog shit.
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161531706
>all but unusable
shut it feces fowl
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I wanna play a low-life guardian RF build. What's the best way to level though? I don't wanna respec until I get like 80 or so. What skill can I use to stay in the top-left of the tree so I don't have to eat 80 regrets
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Would other golems than fire work for a golemancer ?

I'm mostly thinking about the cast speed and CD recovery one with stone golemé They already have so pretty high damage, and they could AoE slam shit , while taunting for safety
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>>161532067
Firestorm or Flameblast totems
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>>161532157
fire golem did by far the most damage
and they got a 200% buff

only thing that matters is dps
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>>161531837
Mmhmm!
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chieftain firestorm totems?
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>>161532202
You sure? Stone golem slam is quite strong.
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what's better

self-cast prolif pizza ele or crit pizza inquis
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>>161530738
haven't we been waiting for you to show your's for 2 months now?
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>>161532294
crit pizza totems i mean
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>>161532292
I can concur. Fire is the most DPS.
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1-2: Crit Ele BF Inquisitor
3-4: SR CI Inquisitor
5-6: Crit Ice Trap Pyre Inquisitor
7-8: BL EB MoM ZO Inquisitor
9-0: LA P2L CotB RotC Inquisitor
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>>161532294
>>161532345
Prolif totems
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>>161532191
Those decent for league start? I've leveled with firestorm before but only when I had leveling gear like reverberation wand and eleron jewelry.
>>
how do i effectively level melee based builds like eq

they level so slowly out the gate its unreal

im just spoilt by fucking fire trap and arc
>>
Firestorm on Pledge Hierophant
>Spell Echo lv30
>Conc Effect
>Elemental Focus
>Controlled Destruction
>Fire Pen

>run Elemental Overload
>run Romira's
>proc EO easier
>get perma Endurance Charges
>MoM + 10%


Only problem is I can't seem to get 190+ life, get like 160-170 even with Scion wheel...
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>>161532651
jewels and you have mom
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>>161532469
Firestorm is probably one of the best league starters there is. You can transition into flameblast totems at any point you feel like it and take them all the way to red maps without too much hassle.
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>>161532603
do IPD vendor recipe every 5 levels lel
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>>161532603
Life is so bad compared to ES because of levels.

>base life is influenced by levels
>you can wear a Vaal Regalia by level 20
>20 Discipline at 20
>>>the only thinkg is Crystal Belt at 79

>meanwhile you will continue to scale in life via levels when you can hit 10k ES by level 68

You can just do whatever maps as ES so long as your damage is adequate because your ES is so high for your level compared if you were a life character it's stupid. Meanwhile you have to compete with ES by leveling a lot more.
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>>161532816
by level 68*
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>>161512701
>even if someone was jealous of a pointless video game achievement

>socially awkward irl
>squealing annoying as fuck voice
>hurr durr i got blue hair xD
>3/10 looks with a crustache
>shit taste in everything in life
>potatonigger

think i still got him beat
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>>161532603

Just don't level as melee
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i have NO idea what to play........ wtf!
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>>161533163
Slayer Cyclone
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>>161532687

Storm call imo is still the fastest. That thing chunks bosses with no investments with the lightning orb
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>>161532816
that only works if you are playing some faceroll skill
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>>161532816
?

i was talking about eq builds and their slow as fuck levelling phase

EQ not ES v Life
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>>161533240
Doesn't it feel pretty ass to play until you get a good amount of cast speed and reduced duration?
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Can't decide

witch SRS
Raider BF
Scion ancient warchief build
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>>161533481
out of those, raider BF sounds the most fun to me

i consider totems pretty boring and SRS even worse.
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>>161533382

I feel the same way about firestorm. Thing is you cant reduce firestorm's impact time, only increase its cast speed.
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>tfw /poeg/ keeps taking the bait whenever someone posts pasta or copypastes messages straight from reddit
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Seeing Ziggy's video of running through a breach map I feel like quick corridor clearing builds are the way to go.
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>>161533481
>witch SRS
boring af
>Raider BF
boring af, but maybe alright since it's a new skill
>Scion ancient warchief build
boring af

I give your builds a 2/10 for fun
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I still don't know what build to do for.
I don't want to do anything too expansive.
>Oro's Flicker Strike Raider; life, don't know how to build for CI
>BF CI Raider / Assassin, probably won't have currency for good gear
>Spectral Throw CI Raider / Assassin, will probably be very weak
>Raider using Barrage / Tornado Shot / Ice Shot / Lightning Arrow / Split Arrow with Blast Rain on the side

>>161533481
Can't decide myself.
I'd go with Raider BF.
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>CI Oro's Flicker

how is this balanced when vaal pact exists
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Is there any build Ascendant is specifically good for?
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>>161533481
>Raider BF
Probably the most fun, but objectively the worst performing. Go Assassin if you want to BF.
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>>161526528
They haven't shaken up the meta since prophecy. The tree is almost 100% the same and the nerfs/buff have made a few more skills viable and a few slightly less good.
We need a major rework of skills or the tree for a big shakeup
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>>161534767

no
>>
>reddit doing damage control because the patch didn't buff life or scion

>i-it'll be 3.0 because it's a major patch

ANOTHER
3 MONTHS
OF
THIS SHIT
>>
poeurl.com/SGf

rate my build poeg

it's CI blight zerker
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where do I go to learn how to build a tree efficiently?

it seems my pathing is shit
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>>161535935
*slow claps*

*steps out of portal*

Heh... not bad, exile. Not bad at all. Your build, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's plenty viable... I can tell it's got some thought behind it... lots of quotable material...

But builds aren't all sunshine and rainbows, exile. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a streamer? To rake those esteemed twitch views? To call yourself a member of the League's ladder?? Build design takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The world-class builds - I mean the big guys, like LiftingNerdBro and ProjectPT- they're out there day and night, burning the midnight oil, working tirelessly to craft that next big build.

And you know what, exile? 99 times out of a hundred, that new build fails. Someone dismisses it as bait, or says it's "tryhard," or ignores it as they copy/paste the latest build copypasta dreamt up by those sorry excuses for cut-rate builds over on the forums. The build game is rough, exile, and I don't just mean the one you just lost :^). It's a rough business, and for every artisan build you craft in your skill builder, some cocksucker at reddit has a Pathfinder or some shit that a million different exiles will attach a milion different flasks to. Chin up, exile. Don't get all mopey on me. You've got skill. You've got talent. You just need to show your drive.

See you in the Breach...
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>>161536051
have a checklist of what you want in a tree

>minimum life/ES %
>keystone nodes
>damage cluster
>reservation if you need it
>aoe if you need it
>charges if you need it

otherwise post build
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How the fuck do I do single target with Arc, I havne't played Arc in like 3 leagues and I want to do so again. Is the single target solution to just use storm call because I'll just play Storm Call instead.
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Is there any upside of using icecrash over EQ? Such as better scaling, less gem investment?
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how would I make a frostbolt build work? GMP? projectile speed?
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>>161536820

exactly zero (0)
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>>161536717
Storm Call is better single but if you miss a stack you'll lose on DPS of course.

I just solved single-target with Vaal Storm Call + Echo + Inc Duration. Combine with Vaal Discipline and I pretty much own every boss if I got the souls.

However one good thing Arc does for bosses is it melts triple bosses because of how the bounce functions.
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>>161536820
JIcecrash looks pretty cool.
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I fucking hate the torrent of noobish questions we get every pre-league week.

>What's a good build I haven't played in 4 years?
>What's a safe, cheap, uber Atziri viable build that costs less than 10c?
>How do I make [ascendancy] work?
>How do I make [skill] work?
>How do I build around [unique]?
>Can anyone spoonfeed me a tree?
>[ascendancy A] or [ascendancy B]?
>What's a good ascendancy?

Google your fucking questions, retards. Look up builds. Do your research. LEARN to play the game instead of hoping you can understand anything with one-liner responses.
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>>161537479
this
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>>161537479
BASED retard
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>>161537479
To be honest, most of the builds in the official forums are bad and/or outdated.
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>>161536953
Yeah, vaal storm call is so fuckign good.

Every patch i'm stuck between 3-4 builds. Vaal stormcall feelign so damned good often causes me to abandon a successfull build for it.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1774554
shiggyd is truly our guy
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>>161537714
s l o w
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Golems will never be a thing unless their AI somehow gets magically reworked, why is GGG trying to make them a thing? can't believe development time went into this
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>>161537893
I only cast them as distraction and for the small buffs they provide
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>>161537893
ziggyd part of dev team wants to make his memebuild so dev team punches some numbers into the game for golem
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>>161537893
There's literally a jewel that makes golems more aggressive/changes their AI. Watch Ziggy's video.
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>Oro's Flicker CI with VP

is this balanced???
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>>161538451
No, you lose survivability by losing your shield which means -25% block and something like 3k ES, on top of that you also get 10% increased phys damage taken.

On top of that, you lose damage too because the ES area part of the tree isn't synergistic with Oro at all and you can't go crit with a 5% base crit sword.

Maintaining frenzies is not going to be easy either, and stacking frenzies means even less ES gear.

No survivability, bad damage, no sustain = shit build
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When the fuck are they going to add a universal gem vendor? Tired of having to trade for gems early in the league.
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>>161538960
Why would a ranger need Conc Effect, Elemental Focus, Clarity or Discipline? She's the DEXTERITY class. If you want to go out of your way and make a ranger a spellcaster, don't be surprised or complain there's an extra tedious trading step to complete.
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How do I level a Shadow until I get BF in Act 3?
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>>161539082
RETARD
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>>161539123
There's another skill starting with "Blade" that scales with Shadow's starting physical damage nodes. You'll figure it out.
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Assassin CI Blade Vortex with Vaal Pact is probably better than before.
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>>161539082

fuckin retard
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>>161539367
Yeah but you have no relevant amount of leech without perma Vinktar, so why bother
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>>161539427
It's not facetank tier leech but leech is still broken with CI.
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>>161539496
>melee skill
>not facetank tier
so it's garbage
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>>161539678
retard
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>>161538960
>tired of having to deal with other players
part of the game man
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retardposter handing out free (You)s
lmao
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I'm gonna play a storm call witch!
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I'm gonna play a bladefall totem scion!
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>Go ranger
>Get 3 stun avoidance nodes
>use scorn for stun avoidance gloves
>master craft stun avoidance on helm

Who needs Eye of Chayula anyways?
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>>161539202
Yeah, great, you get that at the end of act 1. what do i do before that, frost blades?
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I want to play a cheap and easy character to farm currency for the new overpriced golem jewels. Whats my best choice?

EQ Jugg Uber Lab farmer? Ive only done merc lab farming with RF totems, so I dont want to go in there and rip instantly because im unprepared. I was also thinking of doing CI Flameblast totems and just farming maps/breaches until I die.
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>>161540116
Do you really need a leveling guide from 1 to 12?
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>>161540098
What do you value more, 3 passive points and 2 suffixes, or your amulet slot? Let's assume you get 21% ES on your amulet, so that averages at 7% ES per passive spent which is good, and 2 suffixes for those you lose on gloves and helm, which evens out. But then what have you gained, except 2 pieces of gear that are very difficult to replace because of their mandatory stat? A lot of "if"s for very negligible gain.
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>>161540145

EQ jugg since the only (arguably) required item for that is Marohi
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>>161538960
Be glad that we have gem vendors now.
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>>161538451
>oro flicker after raider buffs
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>>161540356
>Oro Flicker CI Raider
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>>161540289
Makes it easier to get a +1 frenzy amulet. The helm should be "easy" to replace because it's a Leo craft. With the gloves who fucking knows what happens though.

+1 frenzy charge Eye of Chayula is probably way better though. Impossible to get considering the leagues meta.
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>>161540429

see >>161538728
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>>161540172
No, but I'd rather save as much time as I can by picking the best options here.
So if one skill gets me through A1 10% faster than another, I wanna know.
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How do you treat masters during leveling? Get them when they appear the first time, then ignore them until maps?
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>>161536051
Mark the nodes you know you want. Mark more than you think you'll use.
Figure out which ones are most efficient. Eliminate the ones that aren't.
Figure out the most efficient way to path through what you need.
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whats easy to play for braindead normies like me? I haven't played atlas of the worlds at all. I was thinking of a necromancer
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>>161540513
roll ranger
get first qs
mule burning arrow/shrapnel shot + qs + id scrolls
roll shadow
get 2 iron rings
get second qs
get rustic from nessa
line up everything for shrapnel, burning arrow for brutus
get level 11-12 in caverns
equip bv, swap iron rings with corals and proceed to faceroll 12-24 with herald of ash+herald of thunder bv
get hatred
get bf
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>>161540745

Usually do ranger slut's stuff for the FREE blue packs.
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>>161540745
Skip everything in normal, start doing missions in cruel so they get to level 2.99 with one mission.

Elreon is the exception and can be done on the fly sometimes (destroy relics mission type) but is generally a waste a time in normal too.
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>>161540960
Thats great, tyvm
>>
Realistically speaking, how big is the economic advantage of a player that gets to maps at day 1 over someone that gets there at, say day 2 or 3.
I'd count myself as the kind of player who wants to get there on day 1, but since this will be only my second league and my second char, I'm not sure how fast I'll be.
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>>161541309

not much
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>>161541309
It only matters if you're tryharding for top 50-100, otherwise the difference is marginal, rushing to maps isn't even the efficient way to go about it, on a fresh league it's perfectly fine to stay in dried lake till 75 then start plowing through the t1s you've accumulated and start building a map pool from there
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only filthy casuals don't push for top 50

literally git gud
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>>161541452
nobody remembers who was rank 45 12 hours into the league

everyone remembers who was first to level 100
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>>161541452

>/poeg/
>not a bunch of casuals roleplaying as ELITE HARDCORE PLAYERS

lmao
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>>161541539
>>161541541
would rather poopsock and rip within the top50 than not poopsock at all
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Just started a week ago, what life leech sources should I seek out for a GR/CI witch? Is vaal pact a necessity?
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>>161541452
Getting top 50 is a must. How else will people see your name when you rip.
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>>161541619
>what life leech sources should I seek out for a GR/CI witch?
Assuming this is a spellcaster, you can get 2% from Warlord's Mark, and some from boots enchant, there are a bunch of 0.2% leech uniques and Catarina can craft some on wands too but it's generally not worth the effort for the returns you get

>Is vaal pact a necessity?
Not really, it's more of a "why would you not pick it?" kind of node, CI has a larger buffer than VP making full use of leech without a default leech cap, and the downside of having no regen is minimal for ES which has an innate recharge mechanic
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>>161541718
>CI has a larger buffer than VP
than life*
and here's my cue to go to bed
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so the range on AW is gutted right
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>>161541837
sleep tight x
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>>161541847

no clue because they buffed the range on weapons and don't know if that affects AW or not
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mfw when i notice a flaw in my build
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>overgrown ruins boss
>room full of invulnerable searing bond totems that never despawn unless you waste a portal
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>>161541718
Thanks for the insight, I am going for more of a caster build, and I imagine that the life leech support gem would be more a waste of a socket than anything, passive tree nodes are too far away, and I want to save unique bonuses for other things based on what I'm building, yeah?
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>>161542060
just move out of the way??? jfc you're pretty dumb
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Breach maps close if you don't kill fast enough, da fast meta is here forever
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Did someone say vaal spark
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>>161542415
>inb4 reddit praises them and they become a permanent feature of the game
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>>161542415
i really doubt they'll be that hard... this game is fucking easy
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>>161542415
the threshold of clear speed to keep them open seems pretty low actually
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>debating whether or not to take unwavering on my jug or just get the unbreakable ascendancy skill
>remember I can't use stibnite flasks with unwavering
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>mfw the golem jewels and clayshaper are going to be expensive as fuck and make elementalist redundant, and my build is dead in the water before the league even began
>>
>you're literally forced to pick up every life node

how much should I be aiming for
I keep trying for 190 and I literally need EVERY node.
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>>161543407

on which side of the tree, what class/build
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>>161543406
>clayshaper are going to be expensive as fuck
maybe that FIVE FOR ONE prophecy will actually be useful now :^)
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>>161543407
with 180-185% life you hit 6k life easy at 85+ if you are str-based

if you dont have str you may never hit 6k with less than 190%, but then you likely have other defensive options to make up for it
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>>161543487
ele witch
ignite vortex

every life node in the templar and witch including scion wheel not even 190
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>>161528528
this will almost never work if your damage is all dot
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>>161543581

>life based witch

???
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>playing hardcore in a game with instant logouts
i bet you also savescum in roguelikes
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>>161543648
CI league starter will be ass though
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>>161543708
yes they're more fun that way
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>>161543708

>playing hardcore on a reality thats the superimposition of quantum states where you are both dead and alive until the wavefunction collapses when the framebuffer empties in your monitor

may as well just call it mediumcore
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>1mil ignite dps

noice
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did anyone play cyclone in essence

i want to farm lab all league but i don't see cyclone being better than eq. prove me wrong.
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>>161543974

the weapon range changes are technically a buff for cyclone

so try it
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>>161544037
true, tree would be more or less identical between the two as well
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>>161543840
the point of permanent death is to make you "commit" to your actions. Like you have to decide whether you want to do this specific thing or not, once you decided, you can't change your mind, and have to go through to the end, even if you now you made a bad decision which will now cost you a character, you still fight your way through and maybe even win, which often leads to pretty intense and fun moments that just can't be had in hardcore poe

Not only poe shits on it with TP system, it also provides players with instant "nope" button.
its not a hardcore game, everything about it just screams PLAY ME IN SOFTCORE, anyone who played actual hardcore games can recognise this in a second.
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>>161529563
>he thinks cyclone is shit..
ok...
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>>161545069
cyclone is shit, the aoe buff would have to **TRIPLE** the aoe of the skill. i played cyclone to 100 on softcore and died 7 times at level 99 so trust me, its not good, at least compared to earthquake.

when you play earthquake as a slayer without a marohi erqi your earthquake hits the entire screen around you. now if you acquire a disfavour and want to run inc aoe/conc effect swap you can basically plow through a tier 10-13 map and clear as fast as a whirling blades build, provided you have insanity gloves.

as a tip to anyone looking to play melee this league get your hands on an insanity essence and even if you only roll like 60 life or something use your mobility skill in it, its broken as fuck.
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do we have a /vg/ global chat? ive always wanted to use a global since it brightens mapping 12 hr a day up a bit but majority of global chat is filled with reddit memelords/twitch 12 yr olds
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>>161532603
why level as EQ ? There are better skills for levelling like sunder or lacerate...EQ feels good only with "high" less reduction
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>>161546197
You died 7 times at level 99 because of cyclone ?
I hope you are trolling anon...
I agree with you but I'm not an AOE obssesed faggot....i can play some meme bow skills if I want that playstyle.
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