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WHEN?

>What's new?
Two new heroes, Varian and Ragnaros announced at Blizzcon, along with a new brawl map and a couple of new skins.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327398/new-things-announced-at-blizzcon-2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4900jOY8cCM

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Where do I find you Vikings-as-first-pick-drafting faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20374411/blackhearts-revenge

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20352063/balance-patch-november-10-2016

>Official site, general news:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
http://www.heroesnexus.com

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips

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I want to fuck all the elves.
We need a garrosh hero so i can join his warband and pillage elf settlements and take their women.
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How do I git gud
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>>161483854
>when you lose a won game.
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>>161483854
Watch your tank's movements.
Don't just dive their backline without a plan or at least your team being able to support you.
Predict movement patterns of different heroes.
Know EVERY fucking ability and talent in the game.
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Is Brightwing autistic?
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>>161484472
Brightwing is a monster.
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>>161484472
It's definitely not on human levels of intelligence
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>>161483854
just land your skillshots. She melts everyone and is a hassle to deal with. Drop the aoe that slows everyone to a fucking snail crawl on a chokepoint and shoot away
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>>161474187
>2 diablos in the game
why is this allowed
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>>161483854
cute
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>>161485059
>still no femdiablo
WHY
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>>161484936
So which build is the better build for killing heroes from icyveins her dragonbuild or sandblast build?
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>>161485384
Chromie is more of a personal choice hero, like Leo
It depends on your playstyle, team and what you're most comfortable with.
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>>161483854
by selecting her fel queen skin tint #1
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>>161485659
Way ahead of you

>>161485586
got it
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>>161483320
Maybe next year.
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So I really like Diablo characters, and have them all but Nazeebo and Xul, which should I buy first?
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>>161487137
Xul. Nazebo is shit now. Also summoning Spooky scary skeletons are FUN!
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>>161487137
Sleep tight fluffer and Xul.
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>>161487137
xul

nazeebo needs a re-rework
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Slutty christmas zagara skin where
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>jack in for some heroes of the storm
>win 3 games daily
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>>161487686
Has some top tier obscure waifus.
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>>161487686
>>161488164
Best Diablofu coming through.
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>>161488164
Do you think the villains in Diablo use humans as sexslaves?
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When will they update LiLi's model so her face doesn't look like crap? Just give her chen's face texture and she is improved significantly.
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>>161452912

had a +month break

back now son, gotta go na someday
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>>161483320
Never
Ever

Why Illi didn't love her?
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>>161490531
Obsession does things to a man.
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>>161490531
because she's insane and stupid
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>>161490694
She was a little yandere, thats all.
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>>161490531
>Why don't you love me when I love you!
She's autistic. Lack of empathy or understand for other people's feelings is a clear sign of Also delete this holy fuck
NO FACES ALLOWED!
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>>161479236

>Arthas
>Brightwang
>Xul
>Li-Li
>Sonya
>Xul
>Johanna
>Xul

>>161490269

It's mostly her flat hair and stupid bangs that bother me.

>>161487137

I'd recommend Xul, definitely.
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>>161492368
>xul_typing_on_a_keyboard.jpg
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So how do I get better with Abathur? Just spam him and don't let people talking shit about me get to my head?
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Why does infest not show the damage increase?
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>>161492492
just dig everywhere and only watch minimap

not that hard.
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>>161492492
No. "Being" or "getting" good at Abathur means you have some baseline skills already, mostly using the minimap, knowing when to safely soak/push a lane and the ability to play your most damaging assassin in the team just as well as he does. Never pick monstrosity you cunt.
If you are confident in your ability to play shit like Illidan, Butcher and all those other safe Evolution choices, know how to play the game without taking your eyes off the minimap for more than 2 seconds at a time, that's when you play Abathur.
In short, getting good at Abathur can be done by getting good at other heroes and the game in general. Don't shit up games without accomplishing anything with him!
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>>161492596

Bugged. Not sure if it even increases the damage, although I only spent a few minutes testing in Try Mode.

>>161492492

He's honestly the type of Hero you learn after you've gotten everything else down, and even then I'm not sure he's worth the effort when you could just practice Vikings.
Also a tad team and composition reliant, which leads a lot of shitters learning the Hero to just blame everybody else.

>>161492478

He's a pretty neat guy.
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>>161493181
worshippers..............................................................quaint..................but............
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...........useful...................
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>>161492840
>>161492882
>>161493181
I'm Plat in ranked, i've just never played him so I have no idea what skills to go on
So just be near creep waves to soak xp and watch other parts of the map?
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>>161488164
>tfw they ruined best girl in D3
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>no patch today
well time to kys myself
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>>161493710

Sort of. You have more than enough wave clear to keep two lanes shoving, with time to gank/harass in between.

>infernal shrines
>alternating between mid and bot
>objective spawns bot, alternate between top/mid while I wait
>group up to contest objective, as soon as we win (or lose) I'll go back to soaking/pushing the two lanes the objective isn't in

Just to give you an idea. He's a pretty solid counter to auto-attackers, especially melee (Thrall, Illidan, Dual-wield Varian), especially those that rely on mobility. Just not the best pick on maps like Battlefield, where you don't get much of the laning benefits.

Sort of has that Sylvanas thing where if the enemy loses the first punisher they'll also lose two sets of towers and a bunch of fort ammo.
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Just started...when can I play the shortstacked cutie
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>>161494183
Pay 10000 gold.
If you get to level 15ish and play all free rotation heroes to 5 for the 500 gold each, maybe thirty games?
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>>161494183

What, Chromie? 10,000 gold, as I recall.

>level heroes to 5 for 500
>dailies for 200-800
>2000 gold reward every few account levels
>weekly brawl (three <5 minute games) for 1000 gold

It shouldn't take long, friend.
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What maps do I take Crowd Surfer over Speed Metal?
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>>161483854
You need to learn god timing to hit people coming out of stasis traps so you can use them offensively. Need to learn how to hit people with temporal loop if you don't know how. Need to become really good with positioning and game awareness so no one can sneak up on you. Need to practice a shit ton to get leading shots just right. Need to learn to hold on to your W to get more sure shots rather than spam away.
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i just noticed, are the new heroes lacking victory animations? samuro stood out like a sore thumb just standing there while the rest of my team were dancing and shit
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>>161495876
Or take Moebius Loop for higher DPS and reliability AND forgiveness for missing over higher burst.
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>>161496723
he's very stoic
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>>161496723
he's just an introvert
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>>161496723

What's with him, anyways? His model looks dated as shit.
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>>161490531
I want to fuck maiev
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>>161490531

>that hair

Mmm.
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>>161497024
He's blizzard's first timewalking hero
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>>161497637
she's not maiev if that's what you are talking about
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>>161490531
that would never make it into any video game
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>>161497637
If they do give her a helmetless skin I hope she has a cute scar like my waifu
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>>161498193
I'm pretty sure it would make its way really quickly into sfm tho
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>>161497338
Too bad she only wants ilidan deamon cock.

>>161497637
Whats canon color hair, i though that all night elves have black, blue or green hair.
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>>161498504
she has white hair in legion
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>>161498504
did you ever play wow in any state

or even see night elf official art before wow was made

an assload of them also have white hair

it's not uncommon
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>>161498504

'Dunno.
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>>161498504
>Whats canon color hair
White, it always came out of the top of her helm
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>>161498741
Maiev is CUTE!
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never ever pt.2
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>>161498745
>yfw there are retards who thought that was a part of her helmet
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>>161499030
Get rid of 80% of those polygons and he's ready for hots
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>topdamaging as muradin

i love haymaker
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>>161499183
What are you on, my friend, hots models are sometimes pretty detailed, if anything, his armor and weapon are not plastic enough.
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>>161500161

>arthas crying in a corner with his toy sword
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new townhall heroes podcast in 25 minutes

too bad its with na players but its been a month since the last one so should be lots to talk about
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>>161490531
Who's the closest to Maiev in the game, Zeratul?
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>>161498720
Yes, he literally stole her moveset, except for his heroic.
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>>161503590
*>>161503938
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>>161503590

I went and checked her (Warden?) WC3 page, and looks like he took her entire skillset, minus ult.

Haven't played WoW recently and don't recall what her skillset in there is, if it's ever even shown.
Anyways, the next Night Elf'll probably be a Nidalee Feral druid, or something.
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>>161503938
>>161504047
Oh, that's a shame, Zeratul doesn't have a single good skin, even his master skin is trash
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>>161504220
thisalee crow pls
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F U N
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I'm trying to master Leoric, but I find it difficult to know when to use his E properly. I tend to pick the Hardened Bones Talent that makes him resistant while wraith-walking, but is the abilities main function to reposition/escape? Or is there some kind of utility that I'm missing? I found out I could use it to escape a Chromie Temporal Loop which is great, but my resistant body still gets nuked.
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>>161504220
play wc3 and come back, tell me she feels anything like that turd zeratul and his spaghetti slash
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>>161504542
>not Broll to complete the gladiator trio along with Valeera who's coming soon.
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>>161504661

>utility that I'm missing

Using it to negate CC, for one. Tank additional damage with the talent you mentioned for two. Also using it to preposition, escape or catch somebody out (especially with wall ult).

>>161504760

Yeah, it's on my list. Haven't had the chance yet. I've just heard that he has her skillset and checked the wiki.

>>161504542

That'd be neat. What other characters might a Feral/Guardian druid be?

>Fandral, although I suppose we just got him in skin form
>Hamuul
>Broll
>mind is blank now
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>>161505071
I think broll would make a good bear druid. Night elves need a tank and another dps or specialist for a full night elf group.
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>>161504760
Going off her WC3 kit, she would be more like a Zeratul who relied more on hit and runs and setting up kills before finishing someone off. Maybe she could pass a specialist rather than an assassin. A poison slow, a basic AoE clear, a non-instant blink, and then some fun ults involving imprisonment and summoning avatars of vengeance to splitpush or boost your in-fight dps and create more targets for the enemy.
I could see it. She never had the damage to be an assassin, anyways. She's a Warden, not an executioner.
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>>161505071
Right, glad I'm not completely missing something then. It seems like the March of the Black King is definitely the weaker ult (at least in most situations), but landing it can feel incredible, moreso with the level 20 upgrade.

What about a Troll Druid? (Are there any Troll Druids?) There aren't any Trolls in the game, or some more Tauren?
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>>161505463

Heh, imagine a female tauren, or troll. Probably wouldn't sell as well as a night elf, though.

The first female Dreanei will probably be Yrel for that very reason, but I may be horribly wrong.
I just really want a shape shifting hero, preferably a spider, but I'll take a cat/bear.
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>>161505683
>a mary sue from the worst expansion in the history is going to sell well
Nah, probably Velen who needs to fill the priest role anyhow.
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>>161505683
>>161505798
We still need a prot/ret Paladin. Problem is there's Liadin and Yrel for it.

I'd argue Liadrin is more iconic. She even has a hearthstone hero. On the other hand there's no female Draenei apart from Yrel at all. She seems to be the only one who'd warrant a hero.
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>>161505683
We need a fem draenei badly
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>>161505463

>20 upgrade on March

That's a bit of a rough go, isn't it? I was under the impression Spectral was the go-to for more damage, and Hardened otherwise. Buried Alive just doesn't exist.

>>161505798

Not saying that I like that forgettable goat, just that she'd probably sell better than poor ol' Velen.

>also seems like varians brat son'll be the token priest when he's inevitablly added
>multiclass like father able to go disc or shadow idk ideas
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>>161505798
I'd like to think a Priest Hero would be Anduin, and he'd be another multi-class hero, but you choose at Level 1 to go Shadow or Disc/Holy. Velen would be a better choice for a Healer Priest, but I just want a Shadow Priest in the game. Gul'Dan wasn't DoTty enough for my liking.

>>161505683
That'd be true, but it's still something I'd like to see. I'd love to see a Bear Druid, but now that Multiclass Heroes are a real thing (Karazhim didn't count I guess?), a Druid really is the perfect candidate for it. Even if it's just Feral/Guardian, since Malfurion covers the Resto spec nicely.
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>>161506038
Trait could be mind vision, choose a target (if a hero it's on a time limit) you can see that target's vision like a scout drone.
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>>161506038
It is yeah, but I really love ending my March and having five Spectral Leashes up. I normally take the % health on Auto attack Talent, though I've used Hardened every now and then.
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>>161506247
>a shadow priest that isn't a troll or undead

You disgust me
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>>161505798
>caring about a character being a mary sue
>in world of warcraft
what? that is like 100% of the good guy characters
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Who do you think is the strongest and most viable solo carry splitpusher? I'm talking 'fuck my team, i'm gonna just push and win'
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>>161506285

Mm, that's an idea.

>>161506736

I think we have quite a few potential Heroes, but it seems like Anduin and Velen are the most likely "Priest" character.

>>161507183

>xul
>zagara
>azmodan
>sylvanas
>hammer
>gazlowe
>falstad
>a few others i can't currently think of

MMR/Rank plays a role, because some Heroes fall off a little sooner than others.
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>>161507289
Anduin and Velen would never be shadow priests
It's like saying Jaina should cast pyroblast and arcane missiles because she's a mage or Malf should shape shift just because he's a druid
It makes no sense lorewise
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>>161507289
>Xul
do you just go a full skeleton build? What 20 talent do you take?
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>>161507183
Azmodan is the most well rounded : as long you're vaguely in range of your team during tf you can contribute with orbs and map size doesn't really affect you that much

Zagara's second best
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>>161507941
Jaina uses arcane spells in lore, nothing lorewise against her casting arcane missiles. Also Malf is constantly shapeshifting, that is why when he spent so much time in the dream his body just kind of grew those antlers, wings and bear claws on his feet
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>>161507941

I suppose, now that I think about it. Did you have somebody else in mind?

>>161508204

Ideally, but I'll usually put points into talents that let me duel the 1-2 people who come to stop me.

>Backlash
>Jailors
>Rathma's 99% of the time
>Skeletal Mages
>Giant's Curse
>Amplify Damage
>Bone Spear

Corpse explosion in place of Giant's Curse if I'm pushing multiple lanes uncontested, or whenever I can get away with it. Same for Skeletal mastery and Amplify.

>Shade

Against heavy right-click.

>Trag'Oul's Essence

Never run out of mana. Spam Q and W to clear waves instantly forever.

>get amplify
>ping self a few times in a 1v1
>nova on the opposite side of the map precision strikes him

Amplify is also just hilarious if you're playing with a Chromer.
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>>161507941

I think the only shadowpriest that could make it into the game would be moira
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>>161508364
Everything magic is arcane, but she always specialized in frost and it would be weird for her to use different spells

Malf is not a druid of the claw. He never turned into a bear/cat afaik unless something stupid happened lately in wow, which is entirely possible.
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>>161508927
Even in WC3 she was a pretty proficient at teleporting, which falls under arcane school of magic. In Warcraft arcane, fire, frost have all be classified as different types, and Jaina specialized in teleportation as well as frost magic.

Also in wow he constantly shapeshifts into a bird to fly around and in the books he constantly shapeshifts into animals. Even cenarius trained him in shapeshifting. He even turns into a bird in wc3
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>tfw no priest with shadowform trait toggle
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>>161508914

I could see this, actually.

>>161508204

Whoops, already responded, but skipped over this entirely.

I take Bone Spear, like, every game. It benefits (of course) from the increased damage of Amplify at 16, which helps with your dueling.

>Mortal Wound if you really, really need to shut down healing (might also consider Q talents at 13 and/or 16, depending)
>I don't take Poison Nova or Call of the Grave
>Can't find reason to take Raised Mage, but perhaps I've overlooked something. Might test it in a bit.
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>varian 10k gold

rejoice!
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>>161508650
>>161509682
So why Skeleton Mages over Poison Nova?
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>>161509302
Frost magic is a product of arcane magic
You manipulate arcane energies to create frostbolts or fireballs, you don't directly manipulate frost or fire elements.
Her offensive skillset was always frost based.
Arcane mages in lore are usually highborne

Didn't read the books really, but he's simply not known to fight doing that sort of shit
Even Anduin probably popped a mind control or two in game but it's not like he's a fucking shadow priest

>>161508650
Not really
You could use the original human shadowpriest but she's a literal noone
I'd rather have 2 heroes instead
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Robo-Xul skin so I can roleplay as a Necron when?
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>>161510545

>Comparable damage
>More control via slows
>Shorter cooldown
>Flexible range
>Shorter cast time
>Significantly better for escaping

Might just be personal preference, or I could've been cc'd on my Nova a few too many times, but I've come to prefer Skeletal mages.
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>>161510772
The most powerful (and probably the only named) arcane mage is actually Aegwynn, a human. In the RTS schools of magic are different, later on (as in late into the mmos life) it is all described as arcane. So since you are referencing the MMO malfurion shapeshifts a lot and that is the reason for his appearance having many animal features that are now part of his body.
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What hero will let me have the biggest dick
I wanna do big dick damage
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>>161511307
Butcher has theoretically infinitely scaling damage
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>no boipussy heros

Man who the fuck am I going to play then.
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>>161511307

>Tychus
>The Butcher
>Gul'dan
>Ching Ping
>Sonya (Old)

>>161511829

>and none in sight

It is suffering.
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>>161511307
snu snu
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>>161487137
sleep tight fluffer.

Nazeebo is pretty easy to play and has been a consistently solid pick for a while now. Xul is really strong in the right situations though and more of a must-have than Nazeebo, so I'd go with him first.
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When the fuck is etc getting nerfed?
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Classic Xul when?
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>>161512383
>>161512418
Does she do less damage than she used to?
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>Zul'jin, Valeera, and possibly KT next year

They'll pad this out with other franchise reps, right? They don't mean to give us six Warcraft heroes in a row? Even if they totally can.
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>>161512856
who?
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>>161513027

Yeah.

>Focused Attack nerfed
>Reduced W damage
>Increased Wrath of the Berserker CD

Probably something else I'm not thinking of.

>>161512856

He just got a skin. Probably won't see another until mid-late 2017.
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am i the only one noticed
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>>161513451
No, that's been a retarded fucking meme since his release. I've always despised that shit.
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>>161513451
people have been doing that since warcraft 3

and warcraft 3 had an item that looked similar to batman before rexxar
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>>161513382
So can she really do big dick dps?
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>>161511156
> Aegwyn
> not Medivh, who even Deathwing feared
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dont die, /hotsg/!
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Does anyone have that picture that had all the heroes lined up for size comparison?
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>>161513849

She used to be able to. Not sure about now. Sort of fell out of the meta.

>>161516095

>dead thread
>dead game
>dead inside

Wonder if the game'll ever really pick up. Tempted to go learn League/Dota in the meantime.
>>
>spend five minutes waiting to load into a brawl with one person still loading in, no big deal, this has happened before
>more time passes
>suddenly get kicked back to main menu with a leaver

Oh, alright. Fuck you game.
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>>161511130
why do you have a picture of Thaddius named Gluth?
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>>161508914
supported by voice files!
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>>161516845

At least it wasn't Ranked.

>somebody dodged
>oh weird whatever i'll just queue back up (solo)
>0 points, demotion game
>leaver status

>>161516935

Attention, mostly.
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Flat
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>>161517231
she can flatten the entire roster desu
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>>161518169

>her most recent skin shows less skin

what were they thinking desu
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>using any other portrait
fucking plebs, this is the one and only one you should be using
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>>161518581
Soon as they make him a hero sure! Master skin is the gear from merc camps.
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>>161518662
>He doesn't have minion knight portrait enabled
Lmao I bet you're bronze fucking faggot
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>>161518581
I don't like the minions in general to use that portrait
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>>161518581
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>>161518742
okay
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>>161485971

Chromie's felqueen skin actually was originally designed to have only a thing and not the tights, you can see the remnants of this on the ingame model

We almost got a lewd skin, but alas
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>>161519076
Oh wow, you aren't fucking around, you can VERY clearly see it.
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>>161519076
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>161519520

>killing the golden goose

That was pretty sad.


>Cydaea

At least there's something to look forward to. Hopefully. Staying positive.
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>>161519520
I like your spirit anon.
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>>161519340
>That odd bow-legged stance
I love little gnomes as much as the next guy but I have a good feeling it wouldnt be as great as we would hope itd be
They wouldnt give her a full ass at all, and extremely thick legs. She'd look she was walking around on 2 stumps rather than nice, curvy, gnome legs.
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>Every fucking QM tonight has been a grouped Variunfair+SamurOP, a grouped Sylvanas+Zarya free-pushing, and a filler solo queue.

Just fucking end me.

>>161519076
Fel "Queen" Chromie, then?
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>>161520221
>qm

lol
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>>161520017
I fart to have a farting competition with brightwing
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>8/8
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>>161522162
It's coming to get you
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>500+ second queue
>a player has been disconnected
>need to queue up again
>another 300+ seconds and still waiting
great game
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>>161522162
You know it's lurking around the corner anon
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>tfw no one good you like plays this game regularly in /vg/ anymore
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>>161522162
It would be a shame if something were to happen to your history, there, anon.
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>>161522162
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When is Zeratul gonna get a good skin?
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>>161522965
>tfw there are people in this thread even at this very moment who have less than 150k gold, thus proving your point
>>
So I got Rhegar
He doesnt seem very strong in anything he does
And I can never really tell when to use my ult, because whoever I see I want to use it on is already dead, or I die, or it just never gets used
What am I doing wrong?
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>>161522162
I can hear it in the distance
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>>161523591
Ronin and Zerg Hunter are great.
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>>161523729
Cast it earlier than you'd want to and remember how bursty this game really is

Moment you see that bitch get close to half its now or never, the majority of the time
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>>161518868
I wish I had this. Would use no other. I want to make it to Master League with that portrait.
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>>161518868
what even is this icon
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>>161525434

Hopefully what I'll be getting in a few weeks on a smurf after losing all ten placements.
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>>161525592

Might go throw those placements now, actually.

Any recommendations as to what I should play?
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>>161526056
Valla,Mura,Etc,Malf
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>>161526056
Play heroes with high win rates and show them what you're made of
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>>161526482

>second highest winrate in Bronze/Silver is best goblin

I'm feelin' it.

>>161526228

That's an idea.
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>>161526630
Can you duo queue hero league? I might throw them with you if possible
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>>161526725

Yeah, I think so.

Any idea what dodging draft does to affect placements by chance?
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>>161526808
Still need to do them
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So who are this games hyper carries?
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>>161527609
Competent and cooperative team members.
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This game is so fucked.

QM is just an imbalanced shitshow wherein nobody knows how to play the map's objective correctly.

HL is a rush to get top picks, and then it comes down to whomever has the biggest mistake-laden dunce on the team, team with the worst player loses.

Unranked is a mix between the two.

Brawls are gimmicks that are fun for like 4 games.

I love this game yet every time I get the urge to play it, I just wish I stuck with what I was doing before coming back to it.
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>>161527609
A li ming with a frontline
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>>161527609
Probably li-ming, then tracer with a tassadar and valla
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>>161527609
Me
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>>161517231
I fucking hate that hairstyle so much.
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>>161527739

Yeah, same.

I always find myself looking forward to new Heroes, though, and it keeps me coming back. Sort of.

>>161526725

>tfw just afk'd in lane all game and team pulled off a 4v5
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>>161527739
you damn right they're fun for four games

then its time to get the fuck
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>>161527609
AA Falstad, Li Ming, Nazeebo
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>>161528250
I like her with the green crimson mare.
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>>161527609

>Butcher
>Valla
>Raynor
>Falstad
>Li-Ming
>Chromie
>Sgt. Hammer...?

>>161528250

It's a pretty great skin. I'm hoping they make the WoWtoken grant battle.net currency so I can buy, like, every skin.
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>placement matches
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>>161528642

>in 8 minute queue for second game now

somehow managed to win first one, everybody is diamond

fug might not be able to make it to bronze
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Literally perfect
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How do I tychus?
I never used him and I will try him now that it's free.

Keep in mind that I'm silver
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>>161528642
>Zeratul says "assassin", so it must be a normal dps
>Abathur says "specialist", so it must be a siege hero
>Anub says "warrior", so it must be a solo tank
Such is life in shit leagues
>>
>pick gazlowe
>get shrines map
>just split push all game
>team dying and pinging me all game
>we lose the first three punishers and a keep
>getting all the camps and pushing, sometimes dying
>illidan two levels above me hunts me once, only to die to me and three turrets
>somehow wipe the other team and get a shrine and push to core

is this all gazlowe does? he seems terrible at everything but pve
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>>161529173

>q to chase squishies
>w to poke
>e is short dash
>d then stand still to 1v1 anybody after 13
>drop lazer ult where it won't die, it does a billion damage use R to retarget
>dont take thor/odin thing
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>>161527609
fully stacked azmodan
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>>161528642
We fucking clocked 'em boys
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>>161529725
>dont take thor/odin thing
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>>161530059
ignore my nintendo 64 that I'm playing this on
I still get 60 fps so idc
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>>161530206
and last but not least the builds of all these pro players
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>>161530385
>>161530206
Oh man, that's something else all right.

Well, good job.
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>>161530385
>picking Cleanse in bronze
how do you split push with that?
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>>161530090

What, did they change it recently?

As I recall it didn't offer his trait, and just increased range, or something.
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>>161530385
How the fuck?
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>>161530059
>>161530206
>>161530385

Bronze is a truly magical world where miracles can happen
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>>161530059

>FRESH FEED

Might actually play him next here.

>if i end in silver instead of bronze i might delete this account
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>>161530617

Valla does a retarded amount of damage.

>play valla, raynor or hammer
>duo-queue with a morales

Whew.
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>>161531660
>tfw you bully a thrall and auriel out of the lane as raynor+medic because they can't deal damage for shit to heal up again
>tfw you destroy the first fort before the first tribute even spawns
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What mount goes best with this palette boys?
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So, I get you are fucking GM and you are teaching your idiot little friend how to play so you are paired with bronzies, but the last thing I need is a guy to lord over everyone telling them what to do.

5 people with a bad plan is better than 1 person with a good one.
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>>161533292

>ping pig
>blue/white ghost speeder
>cloud9 2015 hexathing?

>>161532883

Yeah, it's great. Feeling like not stressin' over picks and just playing Jimmy every game.

Or any of the other right-clickers, but Jimmy hasn't been getting contested much.
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>>161533536

>ping pig

Pink, rather.

>>161530385

Heh, what Rank/League is this?
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I know this is probably going to sound like a stupid question, and I know it's not a very well-thought about subject, but are there any comedian-based youtubers like Dunky or Magikarp that do videos based on hots? I usually watch random stuff on the internet while I do the dishes and was hoping to watch hots videos, but all I could find were unfunny gameplay videos.
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>>161534103

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWrBHq7HwZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzxYA4K9qH0

Only guy that comes to mind, although I haven't really been looking.

>also implying three whole people play this game
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>>161534103
"Comedian-based" is a pretty offensive term considering the massive gap between typical internet humor and legitimate comedians, stand-up or otherwise. (Actors, talk show hosts, etc.)

Only slightly triggered. This contributes nothing to you or the thread, sorry buddy.
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>>161534972
I laugh more watching dunkey than I ever have watching actual stand-up. And I watch alot of stand-up.

Mostly as background noise when I'm farming shit in an mmo.
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>>161533292
Pink wonderbilly
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>>161527909
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>>161536381
>tfw to inteligent to deel damag
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>>161488376
Is the third tint of Amazon Nova a reference to her?
>>
What's a fun Tyrande build if there's another healsut support and I'm allowed to go damage?
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>>161537539
Almost positive, yeah.
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>>161537781
Level 20 Tyrande letting you know that there's no higher damage or fun that owl build.
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>>161537949
>there's no higher damage or fun that owl build.

What did he mean by this?
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>>161538028

I offer you help and make a typo and this is how you repay me?
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>>161538105
Is the typo "than"? Ok, I guess that works, but what is owl build
>>
>>161538174
Yes it was than

Empower
Pierce
Lunar Momentum
Starfall
Overflowing light (nothing better on this tier)
Ranger
Rewind
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>>161538256
ok thanks
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>>161538174
The only build that comes close is her AA build
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>>161536381
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>>161487137

Xul is generally better and fun.

Nazeebo actually has a higher popular win rate build. The downside is that it relies on a lot of skill and only starts to shine in the late game.
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>>161540664
that's me!
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>>161506795
>good guy characters
Are orcs really the good guys now?
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>>161541639
Orcs, demons, betrayers, genocidal mages, oppressive tyrants.
You name it, they're good.
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>>161527828
u tracer fags need to stop playing hero league, unless u can wave clear, merc, siege or cc along with kill people you become absolutely useless from behind. Face it your a less shitty nova.
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>one player disconnects
>suddenly the whole game is ruined
>lose full points because they were disconnected from level 10
great game
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>>161542868
Got de-ranked thanks to multiple games in a row of DCs and a leaver. Amazing fucking game.
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>>161541639
Sargeras is a good guy now too

>>161542868
They don't have the technology for loss prevention, game is still in beta
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>>161542868
It happens for the enemy team more often than it happens for you.
>>
WHEN

No seriously, fucking when? We got a fucking gnome and 2 (TWO) pandas before this guy
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>>161543820
Aaand, I forgot the fucking picture
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>>161542868
That's why you don't play hots.
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>>161543451
Go to bed Dustin, that shit don't fly here.
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>>161544071

It's true, even if it doesn't really feel like it.

>4 potential shitters, afks or disconnects on your team
>5 on the other team

>>161543894


We just got Alarak. Seems like they'd hold off on him a bit more.
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>>161544259
It's not true, since you can disconnect as well.
>>
Are the DDoS attacks back? I have entire teams disconnencting simultaneiously, me including.
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>>161544978
Could be, I just came out of a game where 2 people on my team disconnected at the start and never came back. This was after being in another game where someone on my team disconnected at level 5 and never came back.
>>
Dunk build or meme lazer for Azmodan?
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>>161545385
meme lazer
suicide into towers
>>
I forgot how good is Thrall in bronze
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>>161548427
The way this sentence is structured makes me think it's a question.
The way it's presented makes me feel like it's a misworded statement.
And every hero is good as long as you're better than everyone esle.
I just got 10 kills 30 assists no deaths and 34% hero damage as Nova.
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>>161548548
I forgot how autistic Nova players are
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>>161545490
>not going meme piano Azmopusher
>>
>>161549073
>someone points out that your post is unclear and tries to relate to the subject
>they must be autistic
Forgot how awful this community was.
>>
is this game dead?
>>
>>161549215
>thinking >>161548427 is a question
Not that other guy, but you seem to have difficulties in basic communication/English.
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>>161548427
full selfheal build is good no matter what league.
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>>161549516
>I forgot
>How good is Thrall
I don't understand where you're getting off on trying to demean me, but at least proofread your shit before you go spouting of generic insults because your feelings get hurt at the slightest provocation.
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>>161549612
Ironic.
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>>161549612
>doesn't have a question mark
>uhhhh...it's a question!
>all the meanwhile abusing others
kek

4chin is one of the most amusing places if you don't take it seriously at all. Regardless of whether users are being sincere or not, it's entertainment.
>>
>>161549705
>>161549756
>abusing others
Stating facts.
No where in my argument did I make any statement about their personality except for that which has already been shown.
I don't except people to properly punctuate their shit if they don't even bother to phrase it properly, but I still politely pointed it out so that I might give feedback in a just manner.
Instead I get a response as half-assed as the original post.

Don't really know what I was expecting, people only come here to waifu/shitpost and complain about being stuck in silver-plat.
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>>161549938
>he does it for free
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>>161549215
>your post is unclear
Not my post
Still you do sound pretty autistic
It's okay, I know you're level 20 with that fine gal
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>>161549971
If I did it well I'd be getting someone to pay me for it.
But I don't do anything well, hence my being here.
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>>161504661
Never do a full wraith walk. Use it to get just out of range and cancel it. Thats the top error i see fron leorics.
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>>161550063
Haven't even played her or Zera since a little before the Quests patch.
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>>161505909
Paladin has to be tirion. No way we dont get assbringer.
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>A non-Grandmaster shitter asks me to play
>>
>Blizzard in charge of making Varian
>2 specs are garbage
>1 spec is fucking ridiculous
>Blizzard quality


Fury nerfs with Taunt and Colossal Smash buffs when?
>>
>>161552310
>Blizzard in charge of making Varian
>he pulls a shield out of his ass
>his trait isn't stance dancing
Thanks
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>>161552310
this is bait
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>>161552310
Actually all 3 specs are really good but each one has to be chosen as a counter to what the enemy has.

That said you should expect the Warbringer talent to be nerfed in the near future.
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>>161552572
>they thought someone would take being invulnerable for 1/16th of the time over a 6 second targeted travel stun
>>
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20752237706

nice system
>>
>>161552717
git gud scrub
>>
>go up from plat 4 to diamond 3 on a win streak
>stop for the day, play HOTS again two days later, feeling fresh and happy to play at my new rank
>sky temple, some shitter first picks nova, then proceeds to AFK on lane, running around in circles while stealthed
>we ping her
>"fuck u noobs im not playing"
>"eat a dick im done with this shit game"
>"enjoy your loss niggers"
well that didn't last long
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>>161549215
please upvote his posts to raise awareness of autism
>>
>>161553252
>do not talk at all
>get silenced
:)

Also, are you under the misconception that I'm that poster? top lol
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>>161553774
>he can't juke the silence
lmao look at this bronzie
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Got a problem, how can I use abilities with the shift+key like in LoL for example? I want quick-cast but to look at the range sometimes too.
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>KR nukes
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>>161550301
Too similiar to Uther.
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>>161554097
not in the slightest
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>>161554097
Abilities would be
>hit shit with big weapon
>summon light to not die
>yell at Arthas
Okay, that is pretty similar to Uther.
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>>161554171
I could see a Cavalier charge heroic, that would be glorious
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>sky temple, our team comp: samuro, muradin, tychus, malfurion, chromie
>samuro and tychus are mentally retarded
>enemies are 5 man pushing our forts between objectives and these faggots are both laning
>they get anally blasted when i pick Twilight Dream
>muradin leaves the game, we play with a bot since minute 10
>1 more loss and I'm getting a demotion game
I'm lovin it
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>>161552717
>shitter spams pings all game
>mute him
>he actually gets silenced
nice, blizzard actually doing their job for once
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>>161554131
>>161554171
He's an old white dude.
Liadrin is a hearthstone playerskin.
Yrel is a literal who but unique as female Draenei.
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>>161553876
There's smart cast or somethin.
Aim on push, cast on release of the button. Rightclicking cancels activation.
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>>161552572
No, you don't.

Twin Dildo Blades of the Cocksucker is the best spec for every situation. It's the best tank spec and the best damage spec. By far.
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>>161555445
>arms 3 times the size of head
>black
>dumber poster
>no penis
How am I supposed to like that thing?
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>>161555034
There are no Draenei yet. Contenders are
>Literal-Who-But-Lore-Important Velen as support
>Literal-Who Yrel as something
>Literal-Who Akama to fuck with Maievfags some more
>Fucking BotC cinematic Paladi crystal hammer Vindicator Maarad (Literal-Who)
I hope like hell they'll go for Maraad as the Draenei hero, but Yrel's probably getting in over him due to role overlap (why would you introduce a male and female paladin) while Velen and Akama are more distinct. Problem is there are no other notable female Draenei.
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>>161530059
i play only Aba and won my first 10Placematch games.
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>>161555765
grats on being carried as the neet hero
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>>161555860
cant rember i lost ever a Place match. and i only play aba. Maybe you are the problem not your team.
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>Kel'Thuzad when???

what would he even do. sell me a kit, /hotsg/
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>>161555991
Frost armor
Summon bullshit minions
Spend mana like crazy on piano talent abilities.
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>>161555991
>>161556057
Sac his shit for mana.
Frost Nova.
Fucking Death and Decay
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>>161556557
What about consuming friendly minions for mana. Doubt Blizzard would ever do something of the sorts, but would add some flavor to soaking imqho
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>>161556735
only cuck heroes use mana
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>>161557289
ETC, Jojo, Mura, Valla, Ming, Malf are quit the cuckers and use mana.
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>>161557289
Gall is the biggest cuck in the game and he doesn't use mana.
Vikings and Aba are cucks too.
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>>161555445
>Left: oh look another black "original" design
>Right: tasteful muscle amazon qt
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>>161557996
>gall
>the cuck
Then why is impossible to get mvp as cho when your gall isn't bad/drunk/half asleep from the meds?
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>>161497637
>filename

For example, even tho Varian may seem to work similar to Butcher they won't (after inevitible var nerf) fill same role in same way. Only now is dualwield Varian seemingly better than every other melee dps. Hence i believe Maiev will differ from any other (not necesary) stealth hero.
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>>161558539
Even if you turn it around and make Cho the biggest cuck the point still stands.
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>>161555602
>>161558467
she isn't black
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>>161557289
abathur is literally the closest thing we hve by definition to being a cuck
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>>161558730
that bitch sure as all fuck isnt white
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>>161559146
she looks like an islander
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>>161559146
She's oceanin/polynesian/asian. Have you never seen fucking lilo and stitch?
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>>161559352
Not him but what isn't white is black.
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>>161555991
>>161556057

[Frost Armor] (+whatever% resistance for 8 seconds, 14 second cooldown)
Choose one:
>Usable on minions and spreads to nearby allies like a friendly Sylvanas W
>Increase duration by 4 seconds, reduce cooldown by 6 seconds

Choose one :
>Now slows movespeed/attackspeed in a small-ish area(overlaps don't stack)
>Now does damage ticks in a small-ish area(overlaps don't stack)

>Talent makes it boost max HP temporarily by 500(whatever), as in it adds 500 hp to your character that can pass your current max hp, if the target is below 500 hp at the end of the duration they live with 1hp

[Sacrifice] (Sac a minion, gain mana/health, probably like 20%, 20 second cooldown)

Choose one:
>Now grants an additional 50% regen over 10 seconds
>Now grants 25% ability power for 20 seconds

>Sacrifice can be used on players for the opposite effect on their health and mana

Choose one:
>Sacrificed minion arises as a skeleton, grants unholy frenzy to nearby minions, 25% attack speed
>Sacrificing a allied mage minion drops a friendly health globe
>Sacrifice can store 2 charges

[Frost Blast] (AoE frost bolt, freezes minions and structures for 4 seconds, slows heroes for 2 seconds, 8 second cooldown, 150-600 damage or something)

Choose one:
>Cooldown reduced by 2 seconds
>Increase minion/structure freeze time by 4 seconds and deals damage over time to frozen units/buildings

Choose one:
>Increased slow time by 2 seconds
>Increased damage near the center by 33%

>Now roots for 1.5 seconds, slow begins when root ends
<Leaves a trail behind as it travels that lasts for 6 seconds and slows heroes inside it

[Death and Decay] (Circle about the size of Kerrigan's ult, not channeled, damage every .25 seconds, 3% hp per tick, slows by 25%, lasts for 6 seconds)

>Increased size and slow by 100%

[Frost Nova] (Pulse around you, about the size of Lili jug ult, high damage and stuns for 1.5 second)

> You cast a second Frost Nova for free after 2 seconds
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>he things johanna is best tank
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>>161559615
I like it
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>>161560429
>artanis
>tank
>unranked
Unranked shitters are even worse than Qmemers.
Artanis is about as much of a tank as Sonya is.
>>
>zarya gets ganked 1v5 by front and both sides of her
>dies in about one second
>"omg auriel why don't you aegis me? i can shield and escape"
Some people are helpless and ignorant when it comes to them making a mistake and it's 100% their fault.
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>>161560672
>he fell for the ranked meme
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>>161560672
Name one thing wrong with unranked draft
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>>161561947
I get similar but "wtf abathur why didnt you hat"
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>First pick has Abathur highlighted
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>>161562570
There isn't sick Naruto battle music playing on the daft screen.
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How do I abathur
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>>161566028
Hat build with none of the defensive talents+ultimate evo and double hat talent at 20

Blame team for being useless and make sure to point out having the highest hero damage on the team

While they're all dead
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>>161566028
don't take monstrosity and don't die
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>>161566028
Pick wavepush build, never hat a hero.
If someone get's cocky, do some dank pimpslap kill.
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LUNARA
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>>161567391
SOPPING
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>>161567786
ULLAPOOL
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I like this game, but I work two jobs and usually only have time for a few games a day. I'm finding it difficult to improve at this game and learn the maps and characters because of this. I've been playing for about 2 months now, and I still have less than half of the characters above level 5. Should I just give up, or should I just stick to quick matches and try to have fun? It seems like people get less upset about my learning curve in quick matches.
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>>161569384

If you are having fun, who cares about anything else? GIT GUD by just practicing it and reading tips on REDDIT since they post some really nice advice on threads from time to time.

Also, always play with 2 mouses, one in your hand, and another in your boipussy. It changes everything.
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>>161569384
Try to have fun since you already have 2 jobs, no need to be stressed over a videogame
Do you find bots boring by the way? Personally I did bot matches 2-3 times a week for dailies and enjoyed myself, now that I freed myself more I managed to learn everything I wanted.
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>>161569679
I usually only play with bots for the first few games with a character I haven't played before.
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Maiev would literally be zeratul without stealth
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>want to buy Lunara or chromie skin
>can only buy one
HELP
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>>161571094
prrrprt
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>>161571094

One is an autistic tranny dragon. The other is fun and cute made (virtual) flesh. So easy.
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>Are you scared? Or dumb.. *gasps* Maybe both!
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>>161555445
I don't trust a woman with fists bigger than her own skull.
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>>161571094
If it's the pay skin just wait to see if they have the winter sale again this year, that was 50% off everything.
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>>161571094
BOUNCY BOUNCY
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>>161566028

Always do something.

>soak with hat
>poke/gank with hat on ally
>soak with body
>defend tower with hat
>mine up chokepoints to vulnerable teammates laning
>clone jaina when teamfight breaks out
>burrow in shit out your three locusts and recall; this kills the fort

>>161569384

Hey, as long as you're able to find some enjoyment in playing.


>people upset about performance

Pfff, ignore everybody. Don't let them get to you. I'd recommend you avoid muting them, though, because sometimes what they say (especially if you're new/learning) may be useful.

also gitting gud is overrated; i miss logging into games eager to learn/play them
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>>161572157
No, that was the black friday sale they extended until new years.
>>
>placement matches
>get forced to play support for 7 games straight
>2-5
>watch how the team cant get a coordinated attack
>get matched with bronze 5 now
>only constant is me
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>Varian has no intro lines with Arthas
For fuck sake Blizzard

And why doesn't Arthas has a kill interaction with Varian?
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>>161572628

>try to intentionally throw placements to get bronze
>make every game a literal 4v5, starting in low-mid diamond
>currently 3-3
>getting matched with gold 1-2 players

Probably won't be able to make it to Bronze this season.

>yes i know i'm an awful person i am so sorry if you bumped into me
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>>161572882
we should team up.
this train I am riding is going straight into the woods.
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>>161573137

Not sure if I can place Bronze from high Gold in four games, so might not finish placements on this account. Tempted to just try again on another account.

>won a game because I literally left my keyboard for a minute on butcher
>killed two people at 20 minutes
>team won the 4v3

I don't even know anymore. Might just have to buy Abathur on the other account.
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>>161572835
>varian doesnt have any lines with any character from another universe
so much missed potential
>>
When is ETC getting nerfed?
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>>161573378

Soon, I hope. Guitar cow is obnoxious as shit.

>>161572157

That was the shop-wide Black Friday say that they extended. The most recent incarnation of the sale was 50% off the legendary skins and a pretty okay altered fates bundle.
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>>161573348
The only one I can see him have a line with is Leoric
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>>161573378
When you learn proper positioning.
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>>161571439
https://youtu.be/lQ9_ShYKXhc?t=95
SHE IS A GIRL
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>>161573378
Fuck that nerf varian fury spec he is literally unbeatable in a 1v1 scenario
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>>161574485
Varian sucks
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>>161574540
Sure he sucks anon ;)
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>>161574485
Isn't that the point?
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>>161574485

>who is The Butcher

I can see Warbringer getting a CDR nerf, as well as the passive healing (speed?) from SMF.

>buff to prot to make less shit

Scared about how they'll buff Arms, though.

>>161574540

He's pretty okay for getting out of Bronze, especially because he can solo bosses.

>>161574645

>Zeratul in solo queue S tier

what the
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>>161574802
I fucking want the basic charge to have the 6 second cooldown, fucking hell.
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>>161574802
out of sheer curiosity which spec lets him solo bosses?
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>>161574863

Yeah, that's how it should've been to begin with.

>16 seconds with slight slow
>or 6 seconds with a stun

How is this even a decision

>>161574927

>High King's Quest (you should always take this anyways)
> Warbringer (you should always take this anyways)
> Second Wind
> Twin Blades of Fury
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>>161575030
I don't have varian yet so I wanted to know. Gonna have to try this out when I get the gold to buy him
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>>161574645
>etc and muradin
>a tier below johanna and chen
Yeah you sure showed him with whatever that list is suppose to be
>>
So is there anyway I can hop on general chat mid game or do they not allow that.
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>>161575105

Just tried it in Try Mode; takes around 40 seconds at level 10. Gets faster at 20, of course.

>>161574645

>A Warrior buster that has begun to rise in popularity due to the improvements to Anub and Arthas

am I being memed

>>161575250

I somehow found myself getting "whispered" everything from General chat. Not sure how it happened, though.
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>>161575410
i figured it out, in the social options tab. woo
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>be me
>complain about being matched with bronze a few posts ago
>get pic related
>I was playing with gold all the time
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so muradin is statistically balanced? he doesn't feel balanced
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>>161574927
What he said >>161575030

You can solo boss at 10
You can right click and go afk at the boss at like 16 with a completed quest
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>>161577046
Yes.
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>>161576804

Nice, nice.

>>161576960

Attempting to intentionally lose and went 3-3. Gonna try to win these next four and see where I get.

>when you can't even intentionally lose in Plat-Diamond

>>161577046

>Warmogss level 1
>Cripples auto-attackers
>Escape and engage that also goes over walls and gives resistant (formerly unstoppable)
>Long, single-target stun
>Last Stand Heroic if you need more health for some reason

Tired of Johanna, Muradin and ETC in every goddamn game. Buff Deheka and Patchwerk.
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>>161578141
You mean Diablo and Arthas, right?
>>
So I'm currently doing a smurf, who should I buy first after getting all the free people to 5?
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>>161578141
problem is that giant killer is kill and no strong AA left to punish the sustain of warriors.
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>>161578595

What are your goals, exactly?

>>161578572

Diablo? Possibly.

Arthas? Seems like he'll always just be a Bruiser/Offtank.
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>>161578572
What buff would Arthas need?
>>
ayo senpai, best heroes to carry shitters in hero league?
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>>161578802
to see how much of a meme is the fact that a smurf can get me placed higher than a main that I already fucked
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>>161578869

Depends on the MMR, and certain "carry" Heroes are shut down pretty hard, depending on when they're drafted.

I love this game, but it isn't like League where you can get fed as shit in the depths and carry with full AP Nami mid.

>>161578879

Oh, yeah. it's almost hilarious how highly newbies can be placed with just a bit of luck.
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>>161579031
could you answer more vague please?
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>>161578595
take mura or jaina for free, buy the other one
malfurion, valla, etc, li ming
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>>161578869
TASTUH MA BRAIDOH
>>
>>161579159

What, Heroes that carry?

>>161578782

Eh? I could've sworn Valla was top tier, and Raynor just took off recently.
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>>161578782
Well Tychus is a top tier pick now
>>
3 warrior draft is the new meta, you heard it here first folks
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>>161579674
Yeah we played 3 warriors KT and auriel and destroyed a tychus, ming, malf, muradin and alarak team in diamond 2
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>>161579384
Valla isn't actually good against warriors and she only gets her weaker version of giant killer at 16
>>
>>161579674

Probably not the worst thing, especially if you get Malf/Brightwang and deny Tychus.


>>161579557

Yeah, and this guy.

>>161578869

The bulk of Heroes that do damage can carry, desu. Just depends on how good you are relative to the MMR you're playing at.
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>>161579919
>weaker version
>it's literally stronger than the old version, plus lvl 20 rancor is a thing now
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>>161579906
But you're one of my favourites Arthas, but I do admit that the only way I can play you is with the Death Coil & Ghoul build.
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>>161579919
>5% every three attacks

compared to

>1.5% every attack, or 4.5% every three attacks

"weaker"
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>>161579906
>>
can the enemy see where falstad flies
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>>161579919
Valla gets taken for her wombo combo setup power not because she melts warriors, which she doesnt.
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>>161580486
pls gusy i lok toatally badass rite
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>>161580680
wil u marry me artas, i lov blonds ;0
>>
>tfw you try to chat while watching vods
>>
>>161580387
>>161580176
You have to hit 3 times on the same target in a row with her AA, as opposed to getting the effect from every AA
>>
>>161581056
i don't know how bad you are but it's not hard to do
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>>161581116
rude
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>>161581116
Yeah the people you are playing against are bad if they just let valla sit there an AA people to death.
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>>161581056

The point is that it's less reliable/consistent than Giant Killer, which is probably why they made it better, at least on paper.

>also just had a game against first pick tracer on tomb was open

god bless his little soul
>>
Still working out bugs in stream lads. I adjusted music volume but still have to raise mic volume and comment more
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>>161581690
literally who
>>
>>161581682

Oh, I'm retarded.

>first pick Tracer on tomb when Xul was open

>>161581690

Oh, fun.
>>
>china tournament
>ex pro casters
>ex pro analysts
>cgi production
>player cams

>blizzard tournament
>retard german cunt casting from his mums attic
>.
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>>161504547
Bees of the storm that was a good meme
>>
>>161582059

Asia seems to be the only hope for this game, honestly.

>also, for science
>dodging placement matches

Doesn't drop MMR, or count as a loss. Just have to play an unranked or two, which is easy because the Brawl is <5 minutes.

For anybody scared of losing (or winning) a placement match.
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>>161581320
>moving and attacking is hard

this is why you belong in bronze


>>161581690
ever considered not listening to n*gger music
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>>161582826

>belonging in Bronze

I genuinely want an account down there, but it looks like the account I tried to tank will just end in Platinum.

Feels bad. I wish teams pulled off legit 4v5s in my "real" games.

>tfw more people in Diamond than Bronze
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>>161583045
i don't even play competitive so it's not true
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>>161583131

You don't play Ranked?

I think it's pretty fun if you find a way to not care too much. Smurfing recently has been the most enjoyment I've gotten out of Hots in a while.

>didn't realize how aggressive/reckless i could be
>didn't realize how easily it can be to invade
>invade enemy boss while all five of them rotate to objective my team is giving up
>1v1 is hilarious because most people just kill themselves


Feels good, man. I should've done this ages ago.
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>>161583242
kill yourself fag was about to post this
also go back to redit
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>>161573137
>Not already in the bronze 5 0/1000 meme points woods.
Step up to my level nigga and maybe we can throw together.
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>>161582646
There is a reason you generally don't go her AA build, because it's so easy to jump on her and kick her out of the fight. I don't know what kind of games you are playing where valla can just AA with no pressure but it can't be higher than silver
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>>161572882
get leoric or abathur.

as leoric - park him at the enemy core. you die too fast to be detected AFKing. just alt tab and do things on the computer

abathur - Q your core and alt tab out of the video game, and do your things on the computer
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>>161583806

Yeah, I'll definitely be doing something along these lines for my next attempt. Fucked up this time around just by soaking experience and not feeding out my ass. Wasn't sure how good their report/ban system was yet, so didn't wanna go full Leorky.
>also cheap af and didn't wanna buy nerdathur
>>
Why the fuck is ETC everywhere
>>
>>161584413

>slide behind guy with Q
>knock back with W
>this kills the overextension

He's also durable as shit, and everybody is terrified of Mosh, even if you go Stage Dive.

>>161583242

Damn. Surprised they aren't selling portraits like these for $$$.
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>>161584645
Well hes fucking annoying
When is he getting nerfed
>>
>>161585423
it's not his fault that there are 3 solo tanks in the game
>>
>Que as Tychus all day
>Not a single Cho Gall in sight
>Que as someone else
>3 second Que, immediately Cho Gall
how does Blizzard keep getting away with it?
>>
does hardened shield not stop tychus damage? that seems like bs
>>
>>161586162
% based damage is true damage
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>>161586323
When it says all damage it should actually mean all damage
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>>161574645
>worse when you add in fury
>>
Apparently Muradin is a warrior hero
This wasnt even ranked, just Draft mode
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>>161587726
>warrior
SHIT I ruined the joke
I meant Diablo
Haha
>>
>>161587726
god I fucking hate you niggers
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>>161587941
>Implying Muradin is a Dark Iron Dwarf
Get your eyes checked
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>hotslogs everybody on other team
>ban out all the people with 65-70% win rates
>somebody dodges

my sides

who thought it was a good idea to let us see the names of those we're playing against
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>>161587849
haha
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Literal Who Panda when?
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>>161590105
I hope this game survives to introduce another panda, because that wouldn't happen for years.
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>>161590105

>Taoshi pls
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>>161574645
>s tier being that big

why the fuck even bother
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>>161574645
>sgt hammer
>s tier
meme
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This is the official HotS girl (ghost), say something to her
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>Havent played Nova since late 2015
>remembered they nerfed her to shit
>replay her
>she's still strong as shit
did they buff her sometime between then and now?
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>>161591293
You're a filthy coal burner.
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>>161583242
This looks like the a fun brawl for once not just for free shekels

https://soundcloud.com/illegal-maneuver/tasty-treats-halloween-mix
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>>161591775

idk i had a lot of fun in aram

>get kael'thas
>teammate can't dodge because you won't trade it to them

:)
>>
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20379596/
looks fun
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>>161591293
I love you Nova
T. Not Tosh
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>no maiev
ded game
ded thread
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>>161483320
I just had a Murky MVP, I'm so hapi rn :3

puffer-rewind-puffer-octograb is so fun
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>>161592781
>>161591293
Will we get a Nova re-rework in 2017? I fucking hope so. Shit is depressing.
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>>161596227
>:3
fuck off
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>>161596292
:33333333333333333333:333:33:33:33:3:3
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why the fuck blizzard is so greedy reeeeee
it takes two weeks to get 10k if you play around five games every evening
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>>161596398
:O <==3
:==3
:=3
:3
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Why the fuck is everyone picking Stage Dive?

Every shitter is picking Stage Dive, missing it 99% of the times because they're shit, even when the enemy team has no way to stop the Mosh

jesus christ at least the meta in other MOBAs doesn't include retards picking their ultimate ability
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>>161597218
the pros do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>161596227
and another one :3 people are so shit :33
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>>161597218
>>161598409
>suddenly every li ming ever picks wave of force
>regardless of comp
I guess it's because the pros do it
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Why is Shadow Assult so bad? The least they could do is make the attack speed bonus a passive
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>>161602085

>wanting shadow assault to be good

why
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>>161602804
>Wanting a totally useless ultimate to exist
That defeats the point of the talent system
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>>161603406
no it doesnt

if one ultimate is one of the best in the game i will not pick the other one at any cost

thats where blizzard comes in and makes me do it by nerfing it to shit (sundering). cant wait for them to nerf vp as well so you can have shadow assault fun
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>>161587726
If you're in a drafting mode, you can pick anything and it counts for any quest.

It has been this way for a while now.
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>enemy picks solo support tyrande
>she's top damage and outheals both our team's healers (khara+bwing)

yeah okay that's cool I guess
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>>161604704
Wow were your supports afk?
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>late game jimmy

Whew.
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>>161572835
he has some interaction line with Arthas, not sure if its kill or intro but I'm pretty sure it was intro.
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Does Leoris's lvl one Drain Hope increase talents, also increase it's break range?
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Thank Blizzard
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>>161603889
Both ultimates can be good though
Both of Lunara's ults are good
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>>161606862

>Quick Match
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>>161572835
I don't think Varian ever interacted with Arthas, he wasn't even a character in WC3 only really appeared in the comics.
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>>161596995

hot
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>>161572835
Yes he does, he says something like "you betrayed everyone, Arthas"
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>Attack-Moving always focusing target nearest my Hero, not Cursor

Any way to change this?
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>dude vorpal + wormhole lvl7 lmao

new zera pretty fun
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>>161608552
use right click instead
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Zul'jin announcement when
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>>161609024

a week after rag is out
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>>161608806

>accidentally click the ground beside the terror I'm attempting to kite
>take baby step towards it
>die horribly

Just asking if it's possible, and if I've missed something in the config.
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>>161609137
make that 3
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why do these faggots like rawrior and raven keeps donating huge amounts to this asian kid
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>>161607275
Arthas consoled Varian when Stormwind fell to the orcs and the refugees arrived at Lordaeron. Arthas was also made a full Silver Hand paladin in the new Cathedral in Stormwind where they welcomed each other once more. The book this lore comes from implies they were good friends. They trained together frequently as youngsters.
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>>161611271


who what

>>161609182

pls respond
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>>161596275
I finally got used to new Nova, pls no.
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>1trick
>getting all dem points
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Which talents that sound good in theory but are actually shit or gets outclassed by something else would you like to see buffed?
And how would you do it?
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>>161612362

Beacon of Light for Uther

Heals for shit because his cooldowns are so high. Uther needs a complete rework, he's a disaster and piano is shit. If you disagree you have autism.
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So did they add new voicelines that Heroes just say when AAing? I'm noticing a lot of "take this" and etc from some characters and I do not know what procs these lines
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>>161613069
>Doesnt even have Devotion Aura as a trait, which would put a damage reducing aura on allies around you for a short time
The Silver Hand didnt die for this
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>>161613069
I want ret paladin Uther.
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in todays brawl, I give you: the laning nova!
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>>161613676

His damage is so fucking low and his cooldowns and mana costs are too fucking high. Hes not fun to play and he's poorly designed.

FIX HIM NOW BLIZZARD.
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>>161613676
Thatd probably be Tirion Fordring, unless they want to just give Uther Ashbringer when he chooses his ret path
Which would be completely canon now, really, if he were alive in WoW
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>>161613676

Seems more like they'll rework him into a pure Holy, or Holy/Prot.

Wonder who the Retribution Paladin'll be.

>Tirion
>Maraad
>Yrel
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>>161613896

>Tirion, if added to the game, would not have divine storm because Uther the Shitbringer has it

kill me
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>>161613982

They could pull a Demo Warlock.

>remove divine storm from uther, give him something new and tell him it's better
>give divine storm to shiny new hero
>class/spec fantasy achieved
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Did something happen with the Brawl? I swore I did three games of this and got the portrait already.
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>>161613982
They could give him Divine Storm that heals allies based on the damage dealt, like in Wrath, instead of it stunning.
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>>161614365

What, the pirate one? They recycled it. We've had it for two weeks in a row.

Nova one'll be in a few hours, at least on NA.
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>>161614616
I thought we ALWAYS had it for two weeks? I guess the portrait is a wash?
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>>161613982
Lets just predict a ret pally kit
>Q: Crusader Strike, a basic stronger hitting ability that will reset your attack animation, causing your next attack to strike immediately. Generates 1 Holy Power
W: Consecration, pulsing AoE damaging ability that generates Holy Power for every enemy hero hit, once per hero
E: Justicar's Vengeance, consumes Holy Power to increase damage and heals you for a portion of damage dealt.
Ults: Execution Sentence, an incredibly slow, impractical, high damaging, telegraphed nuke that falls from the sky. Does a shitton of damage if people do get caught in it though.
Something else
Traits: Buffs out the ass
I never played much ret pally someone help me out here
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I've lost 6 hero league games in a row today.i went from diamond to plat. really hurts.
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>>161615173
He'd need a talent that makes him immune to damage while he's hearthing.
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>>161613069
If any of you bronzies played during early beta, you'd know how good Uther was. He don't need a rework, he needs the nerfs undone.
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>>161615347
>Dodge pyroblasts and all the nukes just by hearthing
Im not sure thatd work
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>>161615395

His talents are shit. He was good because the game had four supports and out of those shitty choices he was good for the stun/burst meta.
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>>161615395
RIP old passive.
Only having the shitty heal sucks.
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>>161615395
let him use all of his abilities again in ghost uther form
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>>161615395

It's not about being good or bad, though.

Tassadar was, and may still be picked a lot in competitive, but he'll likely be getting a rework soon.

>>161615347

>hearthstone becoming a useful ability in combat

I can see this.
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>>161615347
imagine the b stepping tho
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>>161616851

>give it a 30-60 second CD
>immunity only lasts as long as you channel the B for
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Gul'dan, Alarak or Samuro?
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>>161617972
Gul'dan if you want to mage.

Alarak if you like Combo/ Melee.

Samuro if you like being annoying and split pushing.
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>>161617972

>Gul'dan

Immobile, relatively beefy self-sustaining mage. Thing. Good and fun, especially against those who don't know how he works. Teammates killing the minion you're sucking dry is suffering, though.

>Alarak

Difficult. Combo-reliant, sort of like Kerrigan. Maybe if you prefer melee, and can get a feel for his vector ability?

>Samuro

Obnoxious as shit Nova/Zera/Tracer hybrid. Good at jungling and split-pushing, because you'll never pin him down.
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Ragnaros fucking when?
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Fuck Uther and Tirion, we need a paladin hero that plays like a vanilla/tbc paladin.

Q,W,E would all be different seals that make your auto attacks have special effects.
Trait would be judgement which would consume your active seal to deal damage to target a and have an effect based on the seal.
Can only have one seal active at a time, activating another would disable the currently active one, and one of their heroic abilities would allow you to activate multiple seals for a few seconds.
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>>161618609
vanilla paladins sucked ass though
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>>161618510

13th, I imagine. PTR a week prior, if we're lucky?

>i need a new hero teaser soon
>hope wanes

>>>>161618609

This makes Udyr sound interesting, desu.

>>161618685

was ist das
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>>161618685
No way I could watch that for 28 minutes what am I suppose to be looking for?
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Every fucking time I want to play this game I'm reminded why I stopped playing in the first place.

God, I fucking can't stand it.
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>tfw
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When is muradin's murader skin coming out?
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Wheres the fun in playing tracer? Seems like the most boring ass character in the game with the sole purpose of annoying people
unless thats the fun?
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>>161623387
People like meme characters like tracer for the sole purpose of being annoying
>>
9 hero league losses in a row. I can't fucking believe it
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>>161625161

>main (barely) in masters
>bunch of diamond accounts (ty vulture promo)
>one stuck in plat I

Slowly losing my mind because I just can't get it out.

>>161623387

To age people who play skillshot-reliant Heroes.
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>>161625484

I genuinely feel like I'm losing it. How can that many defeats in a row be possible?
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>>161626180
Well first of all you talk as if it being HL makes it worse than otherwise. And it is statistically possible to happen, you just got a shit deal. Sometimes you get a good deal, but you don't think so much about having a good run as much as a bad run. If you're not 5 stack, or hell even 4 stack, you're just rolling the dice--take yourself out of it and don't think you're so good or that the game isn't up to chance. You can be one of the best players and still win/lose just as much.
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>>161626554

Hey I guess you're right. Thanks for the encouragement. Honestly I'm just venting. I know I'll make it up, I just can't imagine playing any more this season if I lose any more in a row though.

I was told today's ranked games have been particularly bad for everyone because of the new hearthstone expansion. I wonder if that's true for other people.
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>tfw can only consistently win QM matches by splitpushing
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>>161625161
Survivor do demotion game.

T. Senjinn
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>>161627375
I know that feel
we still lost because of this because of the shitter lunara
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>>161627785
>20 deaths
The fuck?
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>>161627898
No tank/support game as a lunara against a nova
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>>161618685
>lunara is a shitter and throws the game

>>161627785
>lunara is a sitter and throws the game

I'm seeing a pattern

Ban all lunara players when?
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>>161627898
>>161628086
Nah im pretty sure that nova left after 30 minutes and a bot took over
Lunara was just trash who kept getting caught out and couldnt just poke she had to engage if another person was within her sight
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>>161628086
>no tank support/support as a hero with high, erratic mobility and the ability to hit Nova in stealth from range and burn her down asap

Any decent Lunara rapes Nova with deer dick.
>>
Who wants to grind 15 co op games for zarya and genji?
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>>161628228
If you don't go spell shield an even average nova will blow up you
>>
New brawl is out
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alright whats the secret to tychus being godly

I think I am building him horrifically wrong
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>>161629743
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/tychus#h9ln

That is a pretty standard build on him, some people go odin too I don't like it because drill is just damage on top of what you are already doing, which is a lot
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>>161629743
Not the best advice, since I'm also shit with him and just learning.
But I realize that I get way too close to the tanks when using D
I'm almost using him as a melee assassin and that is getting me killed multiple times
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>>161629743
Don't go Odin, EVER.

Drill has way more value than just more damage. You can bodyblock hereos in a bad position(which is part of his godlyness), and completely wreck a keep if the situation is right for it.

Also, you want to be focusing the enemies tank in fights, using your trait you can completely wreck their frontliner in seconds, forcing the enemy team to back off.
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>>161627375
People are abhorrent at soaking and pushing below diamond.

I have 14 wins and 2 losses as Gazlowe currently, and all i do is go Robo-goblin and push like crazy. The 2 losses are because i got grouped with literal potatoes vs someone that knew how to play against gazlowe.

Gazlowe is carrying me through plat right now... fucking GAZLOWE.
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>initiate on enemies
>lag
>game catches up, dead
This is giving me some violent CoD4 flashbacks.
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>when you splitpush all game and your team keeps throwing 4v4/4v3/4v1 engagements somehow
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>>161631960
>>tfw you're a shitter who doesn't show up to fights
fixed that for you
>>
>tfw you've found "your hero"
What's her name hotsg?
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>>161632008
Anub'arak
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>>161632008
forgot picture
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>>161631960

>that one guy that doesn't show up to a single fight and complains his team can't 4v4/4v5
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>>161631908

This happened to me, except the enemy team was completely wiped.

>play etc
>initiate on enemy
>Lagspike of Death, game freezes screen for 6 seconds
>I'm back, and enemy team is dead.
>wut

I then watch the replay, and appearantly, me suddenly standing still confused the enemy teams kerrigan, which made her dive in, whilst her entire team was busy disengaging.

My team, panicking because i suddenly stand still, jumps in to save me and promptly blow up kerrigan.

The entire enemy team re-engaged to save kerrigan, but gets wrecked by my team, since we have li-ming and can then snowball the team fight.

I come back, and see the results.

Kek.
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>>161631960
>Varian has charge on a 6 second cooldown
>Charges into the enemy team every 6 seconds even if no one is around to follow up on it
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>>161631991
>you noob who don't show up to fights

How about basic map awareness, and NOT fighting when there is no need for a fight?

I get it if the split pusher isen't announcing them pushing, but really?

You can't blame other people for being bad, when the real problem is YOU putting yourself in a position to get killed.
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>>161632040
shit, I thought they removed anub
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>>161632008
It kinda depends on my mood, but tend to always jump back to chen or BW
>>
>>161632040
more like a noob
lol
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>>161632953
lol good one
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>>161632953
yeah good one
ahahahahahha
>>
>>161632953
woah good one there m8
>>
>>161632953
goody oney matey good laugh much ahahaha so fun
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>>161633010
>>161633231
>>161633283
>>161633340
ded thread
>>
>>161632953
lol i'm actually still laughing here hahaha
>>
>>161632953
good to the one to the good good one there lol m8 good one for the one and only good m8 keep it up proud of you good one there
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>>161632953
>>
>>161633402
i know right, it was such a good one woah
ahahhahahahahahaha
>>
>>161632953
that one is so good it's even better than me
>>
>>161632953
more like a good one
lol
>>
>>161632953
check this good one(1)
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>>161633631
christ sake
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>>161632953
rofl dude good +1
>>
>>161632953
goody goody good one mate
>>
>>161632953
hahaha lol good haha goood onhahaha lol ghahah goo d one ON(1) One good good haha oengohood one good
>>
anub mains are autists
>>
>>161632953
tjhats a good one i emphasize with tis post
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>>161633936
Kettle calling the pot black.
>>
>>161632953
Nice.
>>
>>161632953
+1
>>
>>161633969
f*cking racist in 2017 idiot
>>
>>161632953
that's pretty good
>>
>>161604704
>be on the team 4 lvls behind the enemy team
>bitch about healing numbers
bronze general
>>
The shit that we resort to in order to keep the thread alive
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>>161632953
damn nigga it been over an hour and i still can't get over how good that one is
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>carry a game with vikings
>soak hard, push hard, get mercs and contribute to team fights alla game long
>all the team circlejerk after the obivous win
and all those fuckers did was "not die over and over"
>>
Play all night yesterday. End up losing one more than I win. With quite a few games played
>>
>>161637518
>enemy team is absolute shit
>their jaina just stands still and dies 12 times in the first 15 minutes
>everyone's blowing each other before we even push core
beating little kids up is a giant confidence booster
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>Overwatch new season
>Hearthstone new expansion
>still waiting on the inevitable Varian nerfs to come at least a full week before we even hear about Rag
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>garden of terror
>our team comp so far in draft: murky (yes, 1st pick), tracer, diablo, brightwing
>i knew that the diablo was a retarded piece of shit from my last game, where he played a perfect 0/2/7 butcher with 27k hero damage compared to my 20k as BW or Kael's 75k
>i'm last pick, wat do
>TASSADAR TIME
>tracer goes beast mode
>murky picks march of the murlocs and goes full autismo push mode
>the walls are on point
>we actually win
>diablo's only real contribution was the on-death apocalypse after lvl 20 and only dying before 50% of the teamfights / objective spawns
this would have been all the more epic if it was the actual promotion game, but that one is coming next
>>
Was that Vol'jin on the stream? I thought everyone's been talking about the axe thrower assassin dude.
>>
>>161639450
inb4 Vol'bin jokes when he releases in a trash tier state
>>
>>161639489
I can't wait
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>>161639489
>volbin
oshit
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>>161639450
can I get a vod about this?
>>
>>161639450
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/5g2nq6/new_hero_just_got_teased_at_gold_club_world/dap1wx1/
if this is what you are talking about I'm gonna slap you in your fucking face for getting me hyped for nothing
how does that even resemble a troll?
>>
>>161640269
It's the voice
>>
>>161640426
even if it's a troll voice, name ONE troll that has something to do with illidan
what is he saying anyway
>>
>>161640505
It's talking something about curses and real darkness
>>
>cyka blyat region, when
why blizzshit
>>
>>161640505
ah mon great rage inside you question is who can control the real shadow hmmmm
>>
>>161640827
oc donut shadow hunter confimed then
>>
>>161640973
Isn't Vol'jin a shadow hunter?
>>
>>161641792
yeah but considering that they teased the amani warbear at blizzcon if the next hero isn't zul'jin it should at least be an amani troll, then again who knows
>>
>playing brawl
>teammates can't spot the shimmer
>enemy thinks standing still makes them harder to see
>>
>>161642612
Standing still doesn't make you harder to see? Seriously?

I'm level 7 with Nova.
>>
>>161642695
It does, it's easier to detect movement.
>>
Bralws are the shittiest thing in this shitty game.
>>
>>161642695
>>161642751
They're both easy to see if you know what you're looking for, which you should because you can see the enemy team comp......
>>
>>161642471
Both trolls maybe?
>>
>>161644059
that would be the best case scenario, so it will probably not happen
>>
>>161643869
Sure, but you aren't always actively looking for shimmer. Movement makes it super obvious, even if you are just doing other stuff.
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>>161644636
>but you aren't always actively looking for shimmer
Assuming you can see the enemy team comp, you should always be on the look out for whatever they are capable of.
Half my kills in the brawl were on cloaked targets, half of those were them standing still or before they engaged.
I mean what are you gonna do other than look for shimmers, stare blankly at the minimap?
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>>161645072
congratulations anon you the best in this weeks brawl

you can shoot a shimmer
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>he doesn't autistically main a hero
you're missing out lads
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>>161645654
>dia4

woo wee lad topkek
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>>161645654
Who the fuck are you and why have you been on my friend's list for like 2 years now?
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>>161645729
>>161646247
i'm not even that guy, pls see the whole picture
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>>161645654

>rotting down in diamond with that many games played

yikes
>>
Is it worth picking Way of the Hundred Fists if I didn't pick the damage Trait?
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>>161647672
it is
WotHF can still save your ass if you are gettin focused (just like a personal crystal aegis) and can explode tanks if played correctly
at the end of the day, depends on the two comps
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>>161647907
way of the hundred fist is the level 16 talent that makes you punch people with your Q, you are thinking of seven sided strike
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>>161648052
yep, I did
speedreading is bad, mkay
dunno then, haven't played khara since the "rework"
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>>161648052
Healing Monk Still revolves around punching, either for healing or cooldown reduction. It's a very good thing to have six extra basic attacks whenever you need them.
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>>161645072
You look at other stuff.
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>>161647672
In lower leagues even with dmg trait you don't need WotHF, since people just stand in range of your E.
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Which support is the most Brawl-centric? Not the gamemode I mean, just most focussed on scrapping and fighting. In LoL Leona was my favourite support if that's any help. I tried Rehgar and Kharazim but none of them are really scratching that itch. Have I overlooked someone/a talent build?
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>>161652068

>hard-engage stunbot

Guitar cow.

>support

Uther?

We don't really have anything like Leona as a "Support", a term which is generally used to refer to the five Soraka-like healers that are played.
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>>161652068
>Brawl focused/scrappy/heal and hurt

Tyrande is up your alley she got me to GM.

I usually end up doing 10-20% less damage than ranged dps but heal 40-60% of enemy healer as solo tyrande with damage talents.

It's best paired up with a ETC Varian or Muradin and a 3rd person to follow up with some dps.
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>>161652697
What do you think about the upcoming Tyrande rework right now?
What are safe talent choices?
Have you ever gone full AA build?

Post lewds while you're at it.
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>>161653183
>upcoming tyrande rework
I'm worried she'll be too good and get banned/picked every game.

>Safe talent choices
My philosophy is to go for the kill. Make 1-1 trades and pop all my cooldowns and burn my mana.

If my heals can save someone and we kill someone in exchange then we are up in exp and have some room to push.

So, in other words, I find safety in killing the enemy team while just barely keeping my teammates alive.

>Have you ever gone full AA build
There are some minor variations for ToD, cursed hollow, that emphasize owls but 90% I go AA build.

01: Seasoned Marksman
04: Searing Arrow
07: Battle Momentum
10: Starfall
13: Sprint
16: Trueshot Aura
20: Nexus Frenzy
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>>161652697
I'd say I'm more interested in the fighting aspect than the healing certainly. I liked Leona because I tend to be a very aggressive player (especially when I shouldn't be), and Leona was a nut-up-and-shut-up character that helped you snowball your lane by setting up kills easily.

I've tried Tyrande, she seemed to have the stuff I want (Stun, Vulnerable passive), but I just couldn't click with her. It felt like she was a jack of all trades character with a heal, utility range reveal and then a Stun, it felt weird, I can't really tell you why to be honest. Do you have a preferred build for her, maybe that might help her click?
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>>161653585

Interesting.

Do you often solo support?

>>161653183

What kind of lewds?
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>>161653818
Tasteful slutty lewds, don't post that trashy slutty le Illimeme XD shit here.
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>>161653763

It really sounds like you'd enjoy Johanna, Muradin and/or ETC.

Tyrael, even.

>>161653971

I see.
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>>161654038
I do play quite a bit of Johanna, trying to get into ETC too. Tyrael was my first Hero funnily enough.

Cheers anon
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>>161653818
Yes I usually end up solo support. No one wants to play support let alone double support comps.

Blizzard needs to rework healers to look and play like assassins to get more people to try them. Obviously not go overboard on damage. Then, maybe we'll see an uptick in healers played even by assassin mains.

The Heroes team is going in the right direction in creating multi-class heroes. Although Varian's tank build is shit compared to DPS.
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>>161654212
Tyrande as an Assassin/Support multiclass makes too much sense, so they won't do it.
Same with Uther as Warrior/Support.
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>>161654212

Ah, brilliant. Yeah, I had sort of hoped they would eventually rework "Support" into something other than "dedicated healbot". Probably won't happen at this point, but I'd prefer to see more offheal/utility Heroes, like Tyrande.

>>161654430


It sort of seemed to be Varian's gimmick; he can play two roles, officially!

Even if Tyrande has been played as a Ranged Assassin/Support, or Rehgar has been played Bruiser/Support, Khara as Melee Assassin/Support, etc.
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>>161654731
>>161654430

Whoop. Meant to say that we may see Heroes reclassified/reworked into Multiclass now that Varian is out.
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>>161653763
You need to watch a high level game of her played. Landing her stun in the heat of a chaotic 5v5 battle and unloading hunter's mark, seating arrows, full seasoned marksman buff on some is so so mechanically satisfying.

Then lining up stuns to get that extra kill or saving your teammate from being chased.

Keeping your mana in check so you have just enough to pop star fall and heal someone from the brink of death just before the whole enemy team dies.
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>>161654909
adult female red pandaren hero when
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>>161612250
What's the trick?
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>>161656256
literally next
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>>161656256

Soon, I hope.

>Aysa Cloudsinger
>Taoshi
>Madam Goya
>Taren Zhu
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>>161658308
how do you even remember these (((characters)))? pathetic desu
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>>161658464

>aysa/ji cinematic
>questline in townlong and recent rogue order hall questline
>visited almost daily since mists of pandaria

Taren because I needed to pad the list out.

>pathetic desu

Can't argue with this, desu.

>>161657669

pls b real
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>it's a dead kind of game
>>
>pro team pick varian
>they lost in 9 minutes

VARIAN IS OP GUIZE
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>>161659145
>playing in Indonesian server
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>>161659245
varian would be balanced if u just took the cooldown redution off from le balanced charge talent

maybe something about soloing bosses also
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>>161659794
>maybe something about soloing bosses also

That's not really op, it takes so much for him to solo a boss that the other team can just walk in and take it from him.
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>>161659794
>varian is op
these bronze memes
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>>161652068
Kharazim is about as aggro as supports get. Did you try Iron Fist?
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>>161660601
>varian is balanced

these silver comments
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>>161659645

This is North America as of about twenty minutes ago, comrade. Queue popped about ten seconds later, thankfully.

>>161659954

Was momentarily in Bronze, Silver, Gold recently. I'd go in, clear a merc camp and just leave it.

>nobody would capture it for like five minutes
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>>161660919
>varian is op

HAHAHAAHAHA
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>>161660919

Isn't he just The Butcher, except that he comes online at 10?

Because I don't doubt he works just fine until probably somewhere in Diamond, at which point Single-Minded Fury might become a bit less "versus all", and more of a "hey they don't counter me" pick.
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>>161661495
The only real good thing about him is the 6 secs point and click charge but still bronzies like to think he is op because he can solo bosses, even if it takes like a fucking minute.
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>>161661701

Yeah, yeah, that was the other thing. Sort of figured it'd be one of the first things they change.

And 40 seconds after 10, I think? Haven't checked with 20 upgrade, and I missed a bunch of auto-attacks running out of the slam, and stuff.
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>>161661851
>And 40 seconds after 10

To be fair he can't solo bosses without twin blades of fury.
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>>161661495
No, he isn't. The Butcher is worse in every way. Especially the life-leech, while Varian gets it from everything passively, the Butcher wastes an entire skill, not a talent, for this, giving the target a big fucking neon sign that reads (RUN AWAY TO MAKE THIS SKILL COMPLETELY FUCKING USELESS). I reallt wanna make a chart that compares these two characters now, the more I think about it the worse the Butcher looks.
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>>161661918

That's assuming he takes Twin Blades, of course.

>King's Quest because tons of AD
>Charge stun
>Second Wind
>Twin Blade's

wah lah you can solo a boss while your team wipes in a 4v5 at the objective. Boss might get a tower, even.

>>161662045

Yeah, he's in a bit of a weird spot. Played the big quiet fellow through placements recently and had a blast, but he's just so useless early in the game, and easily-countered in draft.

>getting to late game and being able to pick nexus blades after getting tons of post 125 meat stacks

Whew.
>>
varian is literally power creep-the hero
>>
I've been having trouble playing Anu'Barak. I generally go full beetle swarm, but it still seems like I die way too easily. Does anyone have any advice?
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>>161662586
Don't play Anub'Arak. The burst and stun meta that came with Varian stomps the bug.
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>>161662734
>with varian

Yeah the stun and burst meta is 3 weeks old

LOL
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>>161662586

>beetle build

How does this one work, anyways?

>Dampen or Regeneration (usually the former)
>Underking
>Shed if I need speed otherwise Chitinous
>Locust Swarm
>Urticating Spines
>Epicenter

Then just wait for 2-4 to stack up and burrow into them and ult. Probably the most fun I've had playing a tank, desu.

>>161662734

Probably this, though, especially with how strong the ranged carries currently are.
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>>161662586
beetle build is useless as fuck unless you managed to be the third warrior on your team
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THE NIGHT BECKONS WHEN?
EMBRACE THE COLD WHEN?
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>>161664563
>Kel'Thuzad
Not even on the list.
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>>161664650
thats not kel in the pic
kel doesn't even say embrace the cold
neck yourself
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>>161665027
If you think there will be any other lich in the game than Kel'Thuzad when it happens, it is you who should be doing the necking.
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>>161665481
>no u
>>
>There's no zergling Hammer skin
I just wanna be an insect tank
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>theres a bronze 2 player in EU /vg/ right now
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>>161666103
But its a whole tank, how would that-
>Hammer is the zergling
>mfw
>>
>play 6 hl games
>3 of them have people who disconnect on my team
fucking what a great game
>>
>>161666652
>doing TL placements with randoms
>find two nice guys that played ok
>and two czech kurwas, two cyka blyats, suicidal metzger, "i'm real good trust me" first pick Illidan and the popular "let me pick Chromie against Zeratul to counter their Jaina"
>lose every match but still have fun

Team league is a magical place that brings out the inner shitter of a lot of people, but it bothers me a lot less than in HL or QM. What is this?
>>
>I'm banning
>forget to ban varian first because I don't want him on my team
>first pick for our team is varian
>he feeds all game and we lose because it's 4v5
I wish this character didn't exist he's so bad
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>>161543894

they still need to remake tassadar, also re-voice him because Michael was probably Bored when they asked him to voice tass again

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8yT1CmTnww

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DERGCMJL5nU
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>>161668310

Not really caring about the outcome of the game helps, I think. Like, people doing Team League placements for the mount will get it regardless.

>placements on smurf
>butcher every game
>divebomb the shit out of people
>invade with no vision
>solo boss with no vision

It was pretty fun, desu.
>>
wew Varian sure is fun to play against
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>>161662863
Seems like one of the best stun tanks in the game might have a place in a stun meta.
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>>161668747
Just stun him.
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>>161660746
I did but only for a game or two, it felt like not taking the Healing fists was a bad idea. He has the capacity to heal by auto attacking, and an attach speed boost in his kit so it felt like I ought to go for it most of the time. I'll give him another go though.
>>
>play Cho'Gall with random teammate
>no comms
>vs Tychus and Kharazim

>win

ready to go Pro'Gall lads.
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>>161668747

Nothing compared to Tracer/Samuro, desu.

What's the issue with him, anyways? Besides teammates always trying to pick him.
>>
>>161668747
>Dwarf Toss with Stun + Basic Attack with Skullcracker and Give 'em the Axe
>Storm Bolt with +500 damage from quest and Basic Attack
>Thundercrack with triple damage + second cast + AA with 60% extra damage
>Rewind and Thundercrack again, still AAing
>Stormbolt again
>Dwarf Toss again for another Stun and so he can't heal as much due to resistant if he somehow survives

Ezpz, didn't even have to use all talents lol.
>>
Shadow assault zeratul is fun, FUN
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>>161671034
>fail to land 4 consecutive stuns on him
>die 3v1
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>>161672898

Yeah, I get that. Same can be said about The Butcher, though, and he does significantly more damage.
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>>161675120
Yeah, but butcher's charge isn't on a 6 second cooldown, nor is it as fast.
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>>161675474

At what MMR is he a problem, exactly? Not bashing or anything, just curious. Just feels like his Twin Blades build falls off after a point, similarly to The Butcher.

Not that they both don't have a place, but neither seems like a "versus all" pick after a certain point.

also; yeah. They'll probably tone down the charge. Reduce CD of base ability to, like, 10, and then cause Warbringer to not reduce it, and cut stun duration down to 0.75, or something.
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>>161487137

sleep tight, fluffer

>xul
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http://imgur.com/a/YWWoA

screenshots of upcoming christmas brawl - custom themed Cursed Hollow
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I have 10 dollars on my blizz account somehow from idk how long ago and just started playing this.

Is the little starter champ pack with it for like, 5 bucks?

I really like playing ETC from that list of characters, but have no idea who else is fun out of that group.
>>
>>161677864
every week is a new sale. Next week will probably start the december-long sale where nearly everything is half off.
>>
>>161678213

So 80% off is a regular thing in the store for stuff like this?
>>
>>161677864

Hi there.

>is bundle worth

Maybe. It's a bunch of pretty reasonable Heroes to get you started.

>no idea who is fun

Shop > Individual Hero Page > Try

Alternatively try playing whatever looks neat that's on the weekly free rotation in Vs. AI or Quick Match.

>>161678306

Nah, that's a "bundle" sale. Like, if you took the price of all the bits and stuck it together. Individual sales are 50%, and the long-ass sale he's referring to was the Black Friday sale last year, which they didn't repeat again this year.

tldr probably just buy ETC with gold (2000) and then try out other Heroes until you find ones you like.
>>
>>161675840
I mean he's a problem mostly in QM, but if that's a question of MMR, he is still a problem for people I play with, and I'm at 2.9k MMR.
>>
>>161678570
Well, hopefully they'll still throw something in.
>>
>>161678580

>Quick Match

Ah, 'gotcha. Can be a bit of an unlucky/uncoordinated mess, but that's sort of by design. No opportunity to draft counters.

>>161678701


Hopefully.

>still can't gift friends shit so they'll try playing again goddamnit
>>
>>161678570
>>161678213

Thanks for info. I'll try some of the heroes from the pack and see if I wanna buy.
>>
STOP DODGING DRAFT MATCHES

LET ME PLAY THE FUCKING GAME AAAAAAAAAA
>>
>>161681956

>in placements
>shit picks/hovers
>guy banning on other team has 3k mmr
>"hope you guys dont mind if i try tanking with varian"

Nope.
>>
>>161681956

first pick nazeebo detected

fuck off outta my game nigga lmao
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Playing auriel is either fun or more tilting than playing any other hero. If you team does no damage you are just fucked, if they can do damage it's fun.
>>
>>161685153
Yeah, she did look a tad team-reliant.

>brightwang and malf every game

Ugh, let this end.
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>People getting mad
>at qm
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>>161685095
>>
>be zeratul
>complete noob playing him
>decide to "gank" sylvanas
>hit every ability on her
>she's still at 30%
>she's just standing there tanking autos and out-damaging me

Fucking how?
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who buy
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>auriel's crystal doesn't actually turn your allies into a "wall" so you can stun enemies against them
would have been cool
>>
>>161685794
show roster
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>>161685794
I AM
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>>161685960
If they hit the crystal it should do 3 times the damage because it's spikey
>>
>>161686085
fuck off carbot
>>
>>161686029

I'm too dumb to figure out how to show only owned heroes

>Li Li, Kharazim, Chen, Sylvanas, Valla, Jaina, ETC, Zeratul, Rexxar, Tracer, Jaina, Raynor, Tyrande,
>>
>>161686387

I'm not sure it's possible to, actually.

>or maybe I'm just an advanced sort of dumb

>>161685623

Sounds about right, at least pre-16.
>>
>>161686387
just take a picture of your hero select you moron
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>>161686029
>>161686076
>>161686650
>>161686964

thanks guys I bought angry orc warlock
>>
>>161687231
you're probably a shitter so thrall is too hard
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>>161686650

Thanks. So I'm not nuts. Just learning what I can/can't get away with.
>>
>>161687518
see if you can hitch a game with some of the shit-talkers in hotsg

they talk shit but play good

senjinn isn't doing charity anymore so tough luck, really
>>
>>161687514

>computer capable of physics
Mirin'.

>>161687518

If it's a 1v1 and you can't outright kill them; they don't always know that. Do your combo and they back off. If they stick around, do it again and kill them.

>guy tryna recall just inside his gates
>E over, W, auto, Q
>take E back, disjoints fort shot

And yeah, definitely push your limits. Nice to know how deep you can go, and how much you can get away with.
>>
Think Murky will ever get a matured murloc skin? I like playing him but his teeth trigger me to no end
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>>161688697
>>
What heroes do you want out the game?
>>
>>161689793

>Samuro
>Tracer
>Li Ming's trait not requiring her to even participate in the kill
>Samuro
>Tracer
>>
>>161689793
tassadar.
>>
>get home late
>just wanna do the daily win game because i need the gold and i have the event stimpack
>queue for QM
>3 team members die 9 times, one dies 10
im just sitting here wondering if i should uninstall
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>>161690845
Maybe it's the autism, but I'm fond of just doing the dailies in Vs. AI, especially if I need the experience on a particular Hero. Nice to not have to worry about winning, especially in unranked modes.

>>161688697

murky rework/buff pls
>>
>>161691059
not dailies, the daily win bonus exp and gold you get from your first daily win

its useless to waste it on a pve mode since the exp gain is shit that way

i literally gained 470k exp when i won
>>
>enemy trio queue of zarya auriel tassdar

someone please tell me what I was supposed to have done against these shields
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>page 10
>755 posts
>no new thread yet
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>>161694719
>>161694719

new
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>>161693627
Varian?
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