/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

Touch me and I'll _________________

>>161371930

die.

>>161371743
>Stalker
Fun way to spell "The Trader".

>>161371930
explode on xenos

>>161372125
But we don't even see the trader in KF2

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*INTENSE BEEPING NOISES*

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>>161373056
i bet she's incredibly gross looking like all the other KF girls

>>161373278

There's a picture of her in the Zedconomy update page.

>>161373967

Found it.

http://killingfloor2.com/Zedconomy/

Demo is one of the best classes for pubs because pubs suck ass at horde management.

>Team has one Firebug and two Flamethrower-using Survivalists.

At least we made it to wave 8.

>>161375736
Survivalist make reading the team impossible. I hate it.

>>161376138

I usually assume they're medic or big guy killers unless I see otherwise.

>>161374184
absolutely nothing like i imagined
and not in a good way

>>161376510

That's what I thought.

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Did you nominate KF2 for an award yet, /kfg/?

>>161371930
BREAK YOUR FACE

>>161378492

DELETE THIS

>>161371930
>>161379451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIE94pn4iJs

Make way for best KF2 song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5wpzalernI

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tfw screk and out of flashbangs

>>161380713

>Not headshotting them with the RPG-7.

what are the chances that we actually will see a non-sjw female character in kf2?

>>161381132
Is first girl SJW? She's just a punk.

I'm so triggered right now, gosh darnit

Do you think Ana and Rae secretly plot to kill the normie members of the team because they're normies? I do.

>>161381384
It's a shame that characters don't really aknowledge and communicate with each other

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>>161380713
tfw haven't completed the throw animation and the gunslinger is already doing their thing

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>tfw you carry multiple games as Demo.

I can't figure out what a gunslinger's role is. They seem undefined as just someone to float around and support what's needed.

>>161382001

A little bit of this and a little bit few that, though he tend to go towards big guy killing if trash is under control. He really excels in solo or when he's one of the last teammates left.

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i fucking hate it when a stalker cock blocks my grenade

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>>161382291
>stalker block my RPG

>>161382382

One time I had a knocked-back Scrake block an RPG I fired at a Fleshpound. That was fun.

>>161379892
most of the demon hunter songs are good if your into that kind of music

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>tfw saving all mates as medic

>>161382494
I want more music where it isn't gruntal lyrics. Collapsing has the least.

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>>161382515

>tfw your constant stream of medic darts is the only reason why your team managed to get through every wave past the third one.

I fucking hate it when I'm a class like Demo or Support and classes like Commando or Medic take ammo boxes.

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>>161384080
I fucking hate it too when I'm any perk and the Support doesn't have the Resupply skill.

>>161384610

But muh stumble.

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>>161384702
>There are Support mains RIGHT NOW who use stumble even though the DBS exists

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>>161384080
>He doesn't want the medic to get more grenades

ded game

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>Sui Red Patty on Infernal Realm
>Last man left as Evis Zerk
>Get his health down to a quarter
>All is going well, just let me run out of this large room and-
>He whips out the minigun just before I can reach the corner and shreds me in two seconds
>After I spend the boss wave plus the whole match before it powerlifting the team

WHEN PEOPLE RUN IN CIRCLES IT'S A VERY VERY

>>161386976
>leaving out the wave before where you died to a fleshpound
carried you and the team desu

>>161387503

>Leaving out the wave before that wave where you were alone but for my guiding hand against the hordes of belligerent locals

POWERLIFTING

>>161387630
well that's the pubbies' fault, not mine

>>161386976

Why the fuck did they accept this garbage into the game? Captain Wiggins is not ok but this is?

>>161388009
Commando Chicken and Terminator Chicken when by the way ? They were the only characters I used in KF1. Since Tripwire went full retard with the cosmetics and even added a gundam cosplay and a knight I assume adding a chicken isn't shocking.

>>161388926

They're so obsessed with providing different voice acting for every character that it slows down the process a lot. It didn't bother me at all in KF1 where there were only like 3 or 4 different voice packs for dozens of characters

>>161389370
Just use one of the numerous Arnie soundboards on the net for Terminator Chicken, everyone will love it and it saves money :^).

If the same voice is fine, ask not for a character, but for the suit.
Though they can't bring themselves to even do that right, as seen with wilkes and the power rangers kf2 got instead.

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>>161388926
Still waiting on pic related despite being in the PS4 announcement trailer and completely removed outright for no reason whatsoever. Especially the non-meme """"Elite"""" Horzine Armor decorations

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>people are shit in pubs
>not aware of it
>blaming others
It hurts, anon.

>aha i'm so good guys, everyone else is shit

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PUT ANDERSON BACK IN THE FUCKING GAME ALREADY

>start playing suicidal
>3 level 0's including a survivalist
>maybe they know what they're doing
>they keep dying after third wave
I'm going to hate suicidal aren't I?

>>161379892
Bitter End. This song is the fucking Guile theme of KF2. It has the best pace to the point that you start literally sync your shots with every breakdown.

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>>161394006
[RUN]
[RUN]
[INSULT PLAYERS]
[WELD DOORS]

>>161402000
WHHHRRRRRR WRRRR BEEPLLEBOOPBOOP LODES O MONE

>>161382001
>I can't figure out what a gunslinger's role is.
He's the perk that shows the true potential of the player. He can be a total shitter bodyshotting trash with .500 or a Grim Reaper that kills everything in his way and soloing the whole game by himself. His skill ceiling is far higher than any other perk, he's the ultimate road to ascending to the throne of God.

>>161388009

>Hating le epic random hats.

>>161396395
Hey, at least they weren't dying every wave.

>>161403396

That's only if you're solo or there's like two people on the server. If not, you're going to be spending most of your time jerking off while classes like Commando, Demo, and SWAT murder everything much faster than you.

>>161405318
Than you haven't seen yet a true Gunslinger my son.

>>161405531

I had a Gunsligner on an HoE game last night anon. He mostly picked off random stragglers while I blew everything up with my M79. He took down Scrakes but that was it.

>>161405864
>I saw a few shit Gunslingers so the Perk is shit
You can say the same for literally any other Perk

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>>161406103
Not about the medic though! Medics a pure!

>>161405864
Gunslinger is not vain, he's aim is not top board or awards, he waits, he controlls the battlefield, he's there where things go wrong. And if he's left alone, he shows no mercy to those who hurt his allies. He brings victory, when he's surrounded by doom. He can be a shadow, that when needed, turns into a morning star. He's walks only one path, path of victory.

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>>161406685
I've seen some pretty shit Medics desu

>>161382001
To me, I consider it like the more "pro" version of Sharpshooter. Gunslinger is basically the inbetween of Commando/SWAT and Sharpshooter. It's a flexible perk.

As Sharpshooter on HoE I go M14 and Crossbow with the extra stun power perk. It's a lot of fun because I get to stun Fleshpounds with the Crossbow and both bigs only take 4 shots with the bow. Not to mention the M14 stuns Srakes too after 4 headshots with the stun perk. Between all the stuns and the freeze nades, I can effectively kill lots of trash and bigs safely. It helps the team and makes sure they can't really fuck things up for me.

Gunslinger doesn't have those options though. You can't just stun and freeze your way out of problems. I know his nades sometimes can stun, but they also have a huge AoE and you can easily KO yourself. With good aim, it can be really powerful. With 3 sets of dualies you can kill all the trash and all the bigs. He's a perk that benefits not being interrupted. A Gunslinger is best holding his own side, but he's still good crowd control and chipping in on stunned bigs when around other people. He can be a big killer, but as long as your team understands not to interrupt him or only to chip in with headshots.

>>161408307
>Commando/SWAT

Stop the interchangeable memes

>>161408780
They do the same, just with different weapons. + for Commando for marking stalkers.

>>161408780
It's not a meme. They fill similar roles. When I'm SWAT or Commando I kill basically everything that isn't big. As SWAT the only real difference in my playstyle is that I sometimes solo Scrakes or I stun bigs for the team if I need to. I expect the same of anyone else playing SWAT or Commando.

>>161408780
Stop the "I disagree so it's a meme" memes

>>161394006

NO

>>161409123
>>161409140
Swats worse at killing medium zeds at range, offers no stalker detection, is better at clearing trash, and is better at dealing with large zeds.

So should I get this game or no? I liked KF1, but hated the level system. Is it better in KF2?

>>161410083
They both offer the same trash killing potential, and SWAT kills big zeds easier with flashbangs, while without them, Commando will do the same job in the same time, with the same amount of risk.

>>161410727

You get less per level-up than you did in KF2, but the tradeoff is that leveling is much easier, and as of the latest patch, is noticeably faster for the early levels.

>>161410083
They fill similar roles. To Tripwire's credit, they managed to make two perks that are very similar on paper feel a good amount different in game.

>>161410727
Most people I know who played KF1 don't like KF2, but as someone with many hours in KF1, I would say get KF2, I like it a lot. I would say the leveling is more cancerous in KF2 though. There are perk leveling maps, but they go at a snails pace.

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Megumeme!

>>161410727
Definitely, but it still takes time to reach max level. If you like the game, you won't even notice when you reach it though. New perks take me around 4 days of normal gaming to max them.

>>161410915

I've found thatm ost of the vet KF1 players that don't like KF2 are the "MUH DEEP META" types that are upset you don't need to do combos to kill shit. If you enjoyed KF1 because of shooting naked men and women in the head with impressive visual effects, then KF2 is just fine.

>>161410794
>They both offer the same trash killing potential
swat can literally just run his mouse of a mobs head and the zero recoil vector will neatly decapitate them all in about 2 seconds. Commando has to specifically click on each one.

Swat is hands down superior at trash killing than commando

>>161411263
Exactly. I am one of those deep meta fags and I still stand by it. KF1 has some amazing depth and combos to it that I absolutely adore and I spent thousands of hours doing them in game and mixing and matching weapons and having a blast with so many people.

I feel like I'm part of only a handful of those KF1 vets that really loves KF2 as well. In truth, I was on the fence for a while with KF2. There was a lot during the EA that I didn't like, but when I came back a month ago I've really liked a lot of the changes. There are still combos you can do in KF2 and some fun mixing and matching, so over all I'm quite satisfied. I think for too many people I know it was nearly 2 years of being let down and they just didn't want to bother any more.

>>161411657
>Swat
>Click and hold
>Commando
>Click heads
No difference here.

>>161411914
There is considerable difference because the head popping capability is literally limited by the rate of fire of the weapons. Commando can not decapitate a mob as fast as swat can, it is physically impossible.

Commando also provides zed time extension. Commando is a support perk that is decent at killing trash and mediums, swat is a dedicated killing perk that can handle all enemies better than commando with the exception of sniping husks at range.

>>161412053
What difficulty are you playing on? Commando is far stronger at killing trash. It kills them instantly, doesn't just decap. It takes 2-3 shots on medium zeds and shreds faster than SWAT.

SWAT has the benefit of being more useful against bigs to stun them and also can hold 3 guns so you can effectively kill more. They are equally aggressive, but Commando will do it faster. SWAT allows you and your team to be sloppier so it's a nice class.

>>161412053

Commando is for precision-killing certain targets (Stalkers, Crawlers, and medium zeds) at range before they can do any damage, while SWAT is for M1ing close groups of enemies. Comparing them by pure DPS is missing the point of what they excel at.

>>161412331
>It takes 2-3 shots on medium zeds and shreds faster than SWAT.

At closer range a swat who is crouching has basically no recoil.

The vector and the SCAR are both basically equivalent weapons, the vector is easier to use at close range and harder to use at longer range.

SWAT also never has to worry about running out of ammo. In a panic situation swat can sweep around and decap everything when a commando has to start going for body shots because zed animations/explosion knocking things around.

The difference between the vector and the scar is about the same as the scar and the m14. All of them can efficiently kill under optimal situations, but the bigger ones become less and less good in panic situations and more and more better at range and at doing damage to large zeds. The swats grenades make up for this.

>>161413082
You have some severe SWAT bias going on.

Both are great, but if your aim is halfway decent, you'll do better as Commando at trash clearing because you'll kill faster. Neither SWAT or Commando outclasses each other which is something I'm really happy about. Commando will kill trash faster and from farther away, but if shit does hit the fan, like it always does, SWAT is better up close and has Flashbangs. SWAT is definitely easier to use if your team is shit. Still, Commando prevents many shitstorms from even taking place.

>>161396395

Once you get your classes to 25, you'll want idiot low-level newbies on your team because it makes things more challenging.

>>161413478
>SWAT bias
? I prefer playing commando, its zed time extension and stalker detection are extremely good. The SCAR also feels really nice.
Its no better than sharpshooter at killing trash though, it has more ammo is all.

>>161413531
This. Putting on your tryhard pants to compensate for your trash bin teammates is lots of fun.

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What are the best perks to take if I'm an evis zerk?

Why does russians make up most of the KF1 player base?

>>161412053
When Commando shoots something, it drops dead. When SWAT shoots something, it still walks headless for a few seconds blocking your view.
With Commando you need one click for trash, that's as fast as you need. And SWAT have better firerate, but what's the difference if Commando needs 3 bullets to kill a Siren, and SWAT 10-12.
It might come down to how good is your aim, because with SWAT you can spam to win, while Commando needs the headshots for fast kills.
As a whole, just for the stalker vision and zed time extension, Commando is easily the better perk. Considering zed killing potential (not including big zeds), if we have to choose someone better, the winner will be only slightly better than the other one. So it's best to play whatever works best for you.
As a Commando, I always (and I literally mean always) have the most kills if I play from the beginning and 90% of the time even when I'm joining mid game, easily reaching over 1000 kills on HoE. I've tried SWAT on HoE, he's fine, nice to have those flashbangs, but we don't need that many trash killer, so out of those two, the more useful one would be Commando.

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>>161403396
>He's the perk that shows the true potential of the player. He can be a total shitter bodyshotting trash with .500 or a Grim Reaper that kills everything in his way and soloing the whole game by himself. His skill ceiling is far higher than any other perk, he's the ultimate road to ascending to the throne of God.
The class reminds me of Commando back in the day when circling Bigs was still a thing. High skill ceiling. Glass cannon as hell, no (useful) damage reduction or life increase. Doesn't feel gimped in any way and can handle most threats solo but requires speed, kiting, situational awareness, and aim to get out of bad situations. You can autopilot as most other perks: Zerk, Medic, Support, etc. and still do completely fine due to forgiving aim and tankiness. Much harder to do as GS.

>>161413845
This exactly. The Commando always has the highest kills by a lot.

>>161413628
>Its no better than sharpshooter at killing trash though, it has more ammo is all.
Nice bait.

>>161413825
Because they like online games, but don't have money for better rigs and new games, so they play old shit that their PC can run.

>>161413898

Those feet are really nice

Artist? I can't make out the squiggly signature.

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>Last man standing in burning Paris
>Patty has 25% hp left
>I kite him around the bar
>Take a good 5 minutes to bring him down to low health
>Someone ends up playing the Benny Hill musing on the mic

Wew

>>161414045
>implying m14 isnt identical to scar if you are moving from head to head

>highest kill
because its medium range supremacy. If the game was a kill competition a smart swat would go solo in a corner since its capable of soloing everything thanks to its grenades.

Usually when playing commando i position myself central to the team for stalker detection and focus on clearing trash for sharpshooters. I dont try to beat the demo grenades and get a few kills off of every group they nuke just for my ego.

>>161414460
Okay.

>>161414460

>Implying that the M14 has the ammo necessary to make the kills the Commando can.

Are there even any zerkers that use the PARRY skill?
Seems like a huge trade for that much resistance.

>>161416150
In the reply chain i even explicitly pointed out that scar has more ammo. We are not talking about round wide performance, we are talking about handling in a situation where you must clear trash. The m14 goes from head to head and clicks on them, the SCAR does the same thing, there is no meaningful difference in the way the guns handle or do this task. Maybe if you are using the scopes since the m14 has more scope recoil, but if you are hipfiring they are functionally identical in the event that you need to remove the heads off an oncoming group of 10 trash.

>>161416294
Considering the damage is bugged and it's active at all times, yeah
I parry a lot against big guys anyway, the extra resistance+buffed Medic darts make me literally invincible.

>>161416294
parry skills currently bugged and gives the damage bonus at all times.

Its also good for boss tanking, and would be even if it were no longer bugged.

>>161413825

Aren't there a lot of spics and BRs too?

>>161417841
BRs and RUs are the same species of subhumans, just different breed.

Is there a fix for the fucking hitching and stuttering? I'm not talking about fps, constantly hovering around 60-75, it's more like a really bad latency despite me sitting at a nice ping for 20-30. Can't really be related to the graphics settings either because it happens regardless of me turning everything down to low or ultra, i've even set bUseTextureStreaming and bUseBackgroundLevelStreaming to false. What i have noticed however is that it only happens when i have something like a youtube or twitch vid(html5 or flash, doesn't make a difference) running in the browser but since kf2 is a mindless podcast game that feels like it's made for keeping yourself entertained while listening to something else it's basically worthless to me. Any ideas?

>It's another "go Demolitions and gib everything because the team is unable to handle anything more difficult than two Crawlers at once" episode.

>>161421408
>play as trash clearer
>demo just spams everything todeath

They need to reduce demo ammo, or make it a lot more expensive. This is what i miss about kf1, in 1 you actually had to consider cost effectiveness. You needed to let your trash clearers use their cheaper ammo to clear trash because the entire game could be lost if you dont conserve ammo. In 2 its always better just to gib everything regardless of host costly since support exists and ammo costs are so lax even on HoE

>>161422050

If I'm playing on a good team as Demo, I stick to one place and let the other trash cleaners deal with other lanes.

>>161407330

>Join team.
>Happy to see a Medic is on the team.
>Start playing.
>Medic is a shitty combat Medic that rarely heals.

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>>161423710

>Be accomplished Medic who consistently keeps the whole team alive wave after wave
>Half way through the game some shitter """Combat Medic""" joins and runs to the other side of the map to farm kills
>Ends up dying anyway
>On the Hans wave he tries standing in front of red Hans with a Pulv and just hitting him
>Gets caught in a grenade storm and dies
>HEALING MEDIC WHY THE FUCK WEREN'T YOU HEALING ME???

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>>161423710
>Join team.
>Be Medic on the team.
>Start playing.
>Zerker is a shitty solo zerker that rarely groups and blames others while he is facetanking an enraged scrake
>was too busy keeping everyone alive

>>161396395

I tried solo suicidal the other day, and it was really easy. Join a game full of shitters though, and you're going to have a bad time.

>>161425047

Suicidal with pubbies can actually be more thrilling than HOE with competent people.

>>161419709
nobody?

>>161425142
turn off your youtube or twitch

>>161425131

This is true. I had a Suicidal game yesterday in Outpost where the team would not stop getting into zed's faces and kept running into the middle of zed groups. It was really exciting keeping them all alive as Medic.

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I'm a berserker player and i use katana plus eviscerator

>>161425418
Nice

>>161425351

Yeah that's what I mean. When you have a competent team on HOE, there's almost nothing to worry about since everybody just crushes everything.
But on Sui with two or three average players and two or three retards it's a lot more exciting.

>>161425418

But that's a good loadout anon.

>>161425418
thats the best loadout

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>>161425418

Only /kf2g/ kids will get this.

Is the Pulverizer bad or something? Iunno, it's just kinda what I've always used since I started playing the Survivalist

>>161426358
Pulverizer is great

>>161426358

Pulverizer is still good against FPs, it's just that the Evis is so overwhelmingly good that there's little point in taking anything else.

If I'm just playing for fun I'll take Zwei + Pulv because I actually enjoy those weapons more, but yeah.

>>161426470
>Evis
>good

wot

>>161425260
>don't play the game
Smart

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>>161425418
>playing Berserker

>>161428389

nice teeth

>>161426358
Its too hard to point up to hit things in the face, much easier to shoot them in the face
pulverizer needs maybe a 20-30% range increase then it could be good. I dont bother using it anymore.

Also you cant parry spam with R with it like you can with katana

>>161426980
It's great if you're able to headshot with it.

>patriarch fires rockets
>not only are the rockets individual projectiles
>they even go past doors
>they open doors to fly through and hit the player
Can TWI fuck off already?

I honestly prefer the katana over the pulv, the constant knockdown of the hammer annoys me.

>>161429235

You just need to git gud. :^)

>be running from patty
>turn around a corner
>he grabs me through the fucking corner and pulls me through the wall

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Why do Albino Clots have glowing nipples?

>>161416294
i take it if the medic isnt shit

>>161431029

But anon, it stays on all the time after you activate it.

>>161373056
Who the fuck cares about KF2 trader? She doesn't even have a soul.

>>161416294

I find it works best solo cause whenever I'm pugging people I've found myself in situations where I can't get it to proc cause people keep killing the stuff I'm trying to parry other than the big guys.

I'm also not that good at parrying Hans, I can parry Patty all fucking day but Hans still eludes me a bit.

>>161431151
Only the damage does, resistance only lasts the 10 seconds after the parry

>>161429973

PING
PONG
CIRCULATE

>playing pubs with friend
>suicidal
>I'm maxed medic, he's leveling commando
>Another guy comes on, goes commando
>max level
>"yo guy switch my commando is higher"
>"No thanks I'm leveling mi-"
>"WHAT THE FUCK EVER MATE I'LL JUST BE A BETTER COMMANDO AND FORCE YOU TO SWITCH"
>hangs around us trying to steal kills like a twat
>we just ignore him and continue on our merry way
>suddenly 2fp + sc
>he decides to play hero while we move to a door
>getting his shit pushed in, runs to us, calling for heals
>we just close the door on him while teabagging and weld it to like 2%, before he dies
>rages at us, but stays in match
>this continues every wave, we sell his weapon, give him no dosh
>I, as medic, was highest on leaderboard

>>161388926
>gundam cosplay
excuse me, where?

>>161432221

>I'm better because I'm a higher level
>I'll prove it by behaving like an autist and playing like shit

Oh the adventures you'll have with pubbies.

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>join match as medic
>pubbies picked a bad location to hold
>soon enough, shit hits the fan
>only have SMG
>heal zerk, who proceeds to jump into a scrake sandwich and dies
>rest of the team is getting their shit pushed in by a siren bomb
>too many players to heal, SMG darts reload too slow
>throw grenades
>sirens destroy the heal grenades
>team wipes and I'm the only one left, still make it to next wave
>"fucking rambo you're the worst medic ever"

>>161433603

>Shit teammates die
>Offer them as tribute to the witch
>Feel no guilt

Step yo game up.

>>161432221
>One guy acts like a child
>HURR LET'S KILL HIM AND SELL HIS WEAPONS HUEHUEHUE

>>161433812

Uh hello?
They did nothing wrong.
Getting him killed, assuming you're good enough to finish the wave without him, encourages him to leave the game and stop shitting up the server.
Selling the weapons of a useless shitter earns revenue for the players who are actually competent and can put the money to better use.

>>161433812
If he was as good as he says he was, he wouldn't have died. He could have ran way and healed up, but he had something to prove, and expected me to help when I told him I was just there to help my friend.

Suck a dick.

>>161434057
>>161433812
Moreover, you should know to not get the medic against you, since they pretty much decide weather or not you live or die.

>>161428389
In all seriousness, it's amazingly better to play in 2 compared to 1, and if you max it out first, it gives you a good idea of situational awareness, since you're constantly on the move, and (should) focus on the smaller mobs while Demo's or Support, or even Sharpshooter, focus on Scrake's and FP's.

Plus, you get to go faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast.

>>161432221
Oh hey
I think I was that commando
I never said anything about being commando or being too "good" to switch and I never forced your friend to switch. There's nothing wrong with having two commandos on a team.

>>161434057
Dude I was just covering the backdoor. I saw a scrake spawn and I went back to get help but you welded the door before I could get back in.
I couldn't "run away" i was literally right outside the door

What did I do to "get the medic" against me? Why would that be justified?

>>161432221
I can't believe you got angry enough about it to post about it on 4chan holy shit dude.

>>161435375

Well it was a fun to read story.
Unless you perefer

>tfw slinging a fat wad of cum on Healslut's toes

>>161436079
I kinda would desu

zedative seems better than it used to be, is it worth taking?

>>161436379

Well yeah I get that, but still, greentext stories are often fun to read and comment on.

>>161436387

Nah mang, AA.

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>>161436438
>hey guys we have this entire tree for medics to be combat oriented so it isnt boring as fuck, and absolutely none of the tree is worth taking!

th-thanks twi

>>161436792

Well actually no, I take the move speed for myself because I matter more than pubbies, but yeah that's it.

>>161436881
Well, I see it the other way around, if I'm surrounded by pad pubbies, I'm probably better off spamming healing darts on them so I can be feeeeeest forever.

>>161437476

True, but the problem with that is that you have to be surrounded.

I prefer
>Constant move speed no matter what happens
Over
>Move speed BUT ONLY IF A FRIEND IS WITH YOU

Especially if shit goes down and you need to solo.
Soloing as a Medic without move speed is much harder than with move speed.

>>161437649
>BUT ONLY IF A FRIEND IS WITH YOU
you're a medic
you should have friends with you all the time

>>161437791

SHOULD.
A lot of things SHOULD happen in KF2.
But in KF2, especially on Sui/HOE, a lot of things that SHOULD happen may not.
Strategies built on "should" don't last long when something goes wrong.

>>161433985
>>161434057
>>161434246
If someone is a retard, and you react as a retard because of that, will make you a retard as well. It's childish, it's "but muuum, he started it" act. Fucking grow some balls, and act like a man kiddo.

>>161438032

>If someone is a retard, and you react as a retard because of that

If their reaction resulted in victory, there was nothing retarded about it. Wake up you fairy.

>>161435249
>I think I was that commando
>I never said-

No, trust me, he was very vocal about a "one class per game" meta, and definitely told him to switch.

Unless that was actually you and you're lying on here to justify what a shitty person you are.

>>161435375
>implying angry
I mean, if that's what you would consider angry. My friend and I just had fun fucking with the guy, until he lost his shit and left.

>>161438032
I don't get what's so hard to grasp about the situation. My friend and I are having fun by ourselves in a server, while trying to level him. Someone comes along and tells us to do everything his way. We decide not to so he decides to ruin the fun. We take the high road instead of bitching, we ignore him entirely, except for welding him in spots, and getting what we consider free guns to sell for cash to help us continue having fun.

You're telling me there were NO other servers he could have gone to where people would suck his cock?

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>be gs
>rpg survivalists or survivalists with flamethrowers/micros everywhere

What I did to deserve this.

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>>161438343
If you weren't playing Infernal Realm with a dude called "Jam" then I guess it was just a very very uncanny coincidence

>>161438606
Whoops, that was definitely not us, I was Cat and we were in manor.

Still a surprising coincidence though!

>>161438814
yeah
i was playing with a level 25 medic and his friend-commando that quickly switched to a SWAT after I joined
I was holding a doorway and the dude welded it up when a scrake spawned to kill me then took and sold my gun
he then gloated about it for the rest of the match while spouting memes

That medic, too, was at the top of the leaderboards.

spooky

>>161438535
Rate my survialist weapons of choice

>Med pistol
>AA12 to kick them in the head
>C4 lol

how fast would you ban me/10

>>161439143
Oh holy shit man that's spooky as fuck.

We didn't really use the chat in-game outside of the initial drop-in, and he didn't swap medic.

This is like some borderline Mandela effect shit.

>>161439248
>he took ammo vest

instant / 10

>>161436792
Combatant and Battle Surgeon are both very rewarding skills however while still allowing a medic to do his job efficiently

>>161440201
Uh, I thought Ammo vest was what everyone picked?

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>>161441292

>get to boss on suicidal burning paris
>level 5 support and level 7 berserker join
Thanks for the help, you'll surely turn the tide against the boss!
>patty spawns
Well at least it'll be over sooner rather than latter. Also why don't people realize that carrying a medic pistol saves asses?

>>161442230

>Level 5 and Level 7 damage turning the tide against a Sui boss

They didn't necessarily doom your game, but they didn't do much to help it.

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>>161442230
>patty killing you faster than Hans with his incessant pretend-berserker phases

>>161440585
Ammo Vest is good. I really appreciate being able to be a back up Medic or to help myself.

>>161439248
I'd laugh if you really took that.

If I run Survivalist I usually pick something like one of these

Railgun, HSG, Med Pistol
Railgun, M14, Deagle, Med Pistol
Railgun, M14, Katana
RPG, HSG, Deagle
RPG, Railgun, Med Pistol
RPG, AA12, Med Pistol
Med Rifle, Crossbow, Deagle
Med Rifle, HSG, Deagle, Med Pistol
HSG, Crossbow, Deagle, Katana

I'm trying right now to see what I want paired with the Eviserator. I was thinking P90, Katana and Deagle. Or maybe HSG, Katana, Deagle, Med Pistol.

>>161443302
If only scrolling through weapons wasn't shit, I'd be willing to experiment more.

>>161443451
That's my biggest gripe. There's a lot I want to play around with, but having more than 2 primaries is a huge hassle and just asking to be dicked over on HoE. I have to force myself to take Secondaries and Melee, but there are so few worth it.

Can we also talk about how there are like no Secondaries in this game? Single Gunslinger pistols, dual 9mms and the Med Pistol and that's it? That's some bs. Some other weapons should be put on that slot so the Primary slot isn't so overused. I miss KF1 where it had 2 primary slots, 1 secondary slot and 1 melee. I know they can't do that in 2 because they want to be controller friendly for PC controllers and PS4, but still it's so bad and basically kills the creativity you can have with Survivalist and Support.

Do I really need range weapons as zerk? I've seen lvl25 with eviscerator and dual deagles/kriss

>>161445046
>range weapons as zerk
That's completely the opposite of the perk's nature. Evi is still good though.

>>161445046
You should only ever used ranged weapons as zerk as a quality-of-life thing to take out crawlers and husks.

>>161445046
No. You need firearms only maybe for fatguys on low level to pop their heads, but your starting pistol is all you need for this.

>>161445046
Katana, Deagle, Evis all you need.

>>161446050
>Deagle over med pistol
kys

>>161446538
If you have the free time to heal others as zerker they shouldn't be in need of healing anyway.

>>161446538

>Helping your shitter team

For what purpose

>>161446538
Playing Zerk in the first place is reason to kill yourself. You might as well go full shitbag because that's all a Zerk every will be.

Now do me a favor and never reply or play again.

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I'm annoyed by how important a medic is but they have such a different playstyle than what the game is. Instead of a defined way to kill zeds, they get these under-par wishy-washy knock-off guns and top priority is healing instead of playing the game. And then if no one does that, everyone is mad because now the whole team is gimped and someone has to sacrifice a weapon spot for a medic gun to be a bad medic.

And don't say, "But a survivalist can do it," because they have the same problem. Undefined loners doing what they want instead of teamwork.

So whats your comfy survivalist setup?

I like using the eviscerator, rpg, and medic pistol. Usually start off buying a katana until I can afford the evisc

>>161447259
Just buff their pistol a bit more. Give the medics a Deagle.

The fact their different weapons have different healing rates are bullshit, too.

>>161447553
What if instead of each gun having its own syringe rate, give the medic a larger syringe pool and medic guns can shoot those recharging syringes. The same pool as the melee syringe, make it something like 100 + 20/lvl and skills that can change bigger pool or recharge rate.

>>161447259
Thank you doctor.

>>161447527
early game(I'm assuming Long Games here) is dependent on what gun I spawn with, if I spawn with a Shotgun or a Varmint Rifle then I'd probably wait till round 3 or 4 before upgrading, if it's something like a Medic Pistol or Caulk N Burn than I try to upgrade as soon as possible(or at least try and grab another T1 weapon so I can kill more reliably), endgame loadout is generally something like Boomstick and RPG-7, with maybe a pistol if I have any room left

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>>161448097
Why not just spawn as support or commando, then switch?

>>161448097
>Spawning as Survivalist
>Ever
why

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>>161447259
>>I'm annoyed by how important a medic is
>has to heal
>kill trash
>decide if hes a meme combat medic or buffing others
>not kill himself because spaghetti arms cant control recoil
>run between retards so they dont die
>fight his "helper" instinct and save some poor idiot while leaving others meleeing FPs
>tank
>whore around for money because AR is his only endgame
>eat the blame because firebug enraged all scrakes again

Just remove healers already.

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>get to lvl 20 commando
>get all right skills
>huge mags
>just sit in one place and be a turret

>>161449317

>Not leveling up SWAT and doing the same thing.

>>161448401
the only reason to play a survivalist is if you are leveling it

>>161448451

Anon, I always focus on the people fighting Scrakes and Fleshpounds as Medic. Not all of us are going to risk ourselves for the Commando at 75% health on the other side of where we're holding.

>>161449896
>implying medic has time to heal when team is fighting a large zed

What happens is all 5 of them tunnel vision onto the big flashy zed. The only chance for the teams survival is to throw them a healing grenade and then clear all the trash coming from the two directions that now have nobody covering them.

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>Survivalists on team.
>They're using weapons like the Flamethrower or attempting to melee like a Zerk instead of using shit like the Crossbow or RPG-7.

>>161450794
This. If I don't see a Survivalist with one or more of the following, I get upset.

- Rail Gun
- Crossbow
- HSG
- Med Weapons
- Medic Nades
- Eviserator
- RPG

As long as they have one of those things, I assume they aren't retarded.

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>boss round
>doing fine healing and flamenwerfing trash
>sudden Hanz does a 180 and charged me 6 times
>immediately die

>>161451132

>Flamethrower on boss

There's your first and biggest mistake.

>>161450938

I had a Survivalist that constantly tried to use the Cuck 'N Burn even though I was doing his job far better than he was as a Demolitions. He never learned that a single M79 from me was doing far more than a single Cuck mag would ever do.

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>It's a "player with T4 weapon sells your gun and won't spare any dosh before the boss wave" episode

>>161451132
Did they change his AI at all? All he's been doing to me lately is charging me again and again and again and again until death

>>161451970

I'd delibertly feed myself to the boss at the start just to make things harder for that twat.

>>161451245
Flame for trash. Side heals for others to live.

>>161453115

That makes sense. I thoguht you were a shitter going Firebug for boss.

>>161453382
Gotta get those achievements :^)

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man that was close

grinding survivalist is actually pretty fun

/kfg/ has more lives than a cat does.

>>161450938
>HSG
?

>>161457645
The double barrel shotgun was known as the Hunting Shotgun or HSG back in KF1.

>>161457935
I actually thought you were talking about the HSG-1 and was wondering if I missed an update or something.

>>161457935

I call it "DBS" to avoid confusing people.

>>161457645
Sorry, 6 years of KF1 and everyone always called the Hunting Shotgun from KF1 the HSG. Anyway, I meant Boomstick. My bad.

>>161443687
>Some other weapons should be put on that slot so the Primary slot isn't so overused.
But with the useless-for-half-the-perks 9mm mucking things up while the medpistol is so handy, you'd get three secondaries to deal with pretty often.

The real solution is to let players customize the slots entirely. Pop open an ini, it lets you put in whatever you want for a name for slots 1234567890, or leave it blank, and then it lists out all the weapons and you can put in whatever number you like for their slot to be.

It's been a while since I played kf2, not since beta. I want to get back in, but which class would be best for re-familiarizing myself with the 10 wave pain game?

>>161460405
S U P P O R T

>>161460405
Support. AA12 shreds through everything and everyone.

>>161460526
>>161460579
So Support is still the rip-and-tear it was back in KF when working your way up to git gud levels of kiting? Hunting Shotgun still a viable second pick up?

As you level up, do the Shotguns still get the penetration boost it had in KF?

>>161460697

Yes to both.

>>161460697
>Hunting Shotgun still a viable second pick up
Always will, shits fucking OP. You can still solo scrakes if you don't spaghetti.

>do the Shotguns still get the penetration boost it had in KF
Oh you get penetration an unreasonable amount of penetration, lmao.

>>161460773
Unreasonable penetration is my thing. Thanks anon.

>>161460757
Good. Time to get back to it then.

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I feel it, Hans.

>>161438032
>kiddo

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>>161447259

>>161460941
Muh Pasta! She is complete! That's the word I needed to end it, of course!

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For medics!

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fuck medics, post clots

>>161460405
Medic, berzerker, demo, and firebug are the oddballs, avoid those if you want a generalized familiarity for the game.
Can't go wrong otherwise, but if you want it narrowed down to just one, Commando is rightfully the default perk, the most straightforward.

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>>161461591

>You will never have eyes as uguu as a Clot's.

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>>161461886

I wonder what the halloween zeds will look like next year.

I wonder will KF2 still be alive when halloween comes next year.

>>161462834
Oh the Halloween events were always awesome in KF1.

Also, fuckin' A the Patriarch is back, thank god. I was gettin' real tired of Hanz in the beta.

>>161462968

Nope.

>>161462968
The fact that KF2 exists should answer that question.

>>161462968
Maybe 100-200 daily players.
It's kinda weird with tripwire games, you can always find people who play all their games.
I can easily find servers for KF1, RO2 and even RO1

next update when

>>161463121

Average KF1 userbase on the weekends is 700 or so, KF2 its almost 4k, beyond that it holds steady at roughly 2k and less.

There's always gonna be people playing KF2.

>>161463210

March 2017. :^)

>>161463215

Isn't KF1's population mostly because of custom servers and RUs and huehuehues with godawful computers that can't handle anything made past 2010?

>>161447018
t. some useless perk

>Spawning in when the boss wave is less than 5 seconds away from starting

Thanks for the dead weight fucker

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>>161463628

>TFW you manage to kick a low-level idiot that joined right before the boss wave.

>>161463505
Don't you dare talk to me again you useless Zerk shitter. Your presence ruins this thread.

>>161463702

Eh, everyone died anyway and I had to solo patty, had to get through one of his heals as well, its good practice I guess.

>>161463968

You managed to not get a surprise minigun to the face? Impressive.

>>161464016

Almost, he took me down to 18, got lucky as fuck.

Was on suicidal mind you, probably be dead on HoE.

>>161462968
probably, I imagine this game will go on sale fairly often, so will have a decent player base for the foreseeable future, same with the PS4 version, as that one is pretty cheap for a FPS on consoles these days(although it only being available in physical format through Gamestop might be a minor hindrance)

>>161463427
well that and KF1 going on sale for ludicrously low prices on a fairly regular basis

I should have never doubted you Anons. The shotguns are rape incarnate, and the ol' crouch-shot still works just fine for dominating scrakes and FP's.

>>161464710

I'm glad you're enjoying it anon!

>>161464664

I wouldn't be surprised to see Tripwire will be playing the long game with KF2, like they did with KF1. At minium, I would epect a permanent population increase when the game starts getting 50% and 75% off discounts on Steam and other places.

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haha no my friemnd

watch how the P R O does it

bamp

Good night /kfg/, don't let the bed crawlers bite you!

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>>161465676

please dont go anon

>>161464724
Say anon, what would you say is a better perk for the support who runs a HSG? Speed Reload, yes?

(Level 1 to 6 in two rounds + final hit on Hanz? It's a good day.)

>>161466050
Speed reload is always better. While low level and sporting AA12 you can try large mags for bosses, but generally faster reload is better than larger mags.

>>161464902
yeah hopefully they'll be smart enough to put it on sale as often as possible for the PS4 version as well(maybe even have it as a PS+ free game at some point)

Demo is a meme.

>>161464710
>the ol' crouch-shot
That was good in KF1 because the penetration hit the same zed twice, doesn't do that now, so no need to crouch, just get the pellets on the head.
>>161466050
The support capacity skill is only good if you only have an AA12. It does nothing for boomstick, and for SG500/M4 the reload skill is much better.

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ayy check this out

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>>161469315
>check Localization.txt
>Tripwire is adding EVEN MORE of these skins
Fuck me I wish IJC and Tripwire would stop being buttbuddies because they get away with making godawful skins and are guaranteed to have them added to the game. They might as well incorporate them as an official part of Tripwire at this point.

>>161447527
mine's only level 5 so ive been taking scar+dbs+deagle

Does this game and thread still suck? I have it installed but want to know if I should get rid of it or not. Is demo any good at the moment?

>>161476191
Demo is a god

>>161476191
Demo ascended from ashes into godhood.

>>161469653
But they also do great stuff like the junkyard collection

>>161476191

Demo is the best perk in the game

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>>161476897
Are you shitting me?
They're well made, yes, but they're ugly as piss. They're worse than Street Punks, and even worse than some of the total amateur neon colored skins that don't even get accepted.
If you like them, good for you I guess.

>>161476546
>>161476687
>>161476976
What's different about demo that makes it a god? Keep in mind, last time I played this was prior to the shitty resistance update.

How do you kill 6p sui patriarch playing as the last surviving member and as commando? Keep in mind that he only run off once when I've become the only survivor.

>>161477608
great at killing trash, great at killing big zeds

the only trouble you get is when you're dogpiled by zeds

>>161477640
let him kill you

>>161478146
Taking the Canadian approach I see.

>>161477608

resistances are mostly gone, his skill tree got revamped, can headshot scrakes and destroy everything else
his only weakness is dealing with trash nibbling on his ankles

>>161477640
Find a spot to run circles, a map like Infernal Realm has one of those spots where you can kite around a pillar in close proximity if you have the movespeed.

Other than that you are fucked because sooner or later he will kill you with the rocket splash damage if not just melee you.

New achievements announced.

1/2

Against all odds: Survive a 6 players wave on your own with over 200 zeds left.
Balanced diet: Headshot every type of zed with a non-melee weapon without reloading.
Blastomancer: Kill 4 big ones with a single explosive.
Bulletstorm: Hit zeds with 200 bullets from a swat weapon - without reloading, switching or realsing the trigger.
Chicken: Kill a big zed with reactive armor and survive the wave.
Cold dish: Kill a big zed with a brick of C4 that's been strapped to it for 5 minutes or more.
Deadly strike: Decapitate 8 zeds with a single swipe from the Katana or Zweihander.
Denied: Set a big zed on fire panic as it was targetting a teammate with less than 20hp.
Double concussion: Hit a fleshpound with the Pulverizator's explosion at the same time as another teammate.
Enabler: Heal over 10 000 points of life in a game.
Every bit counts: Decapitate a big zed with the M9 pistol.
Frozen Assets: Freeze the equivalent of 200 dosh with a single cryogrenade.
Greedy: Win a 6 players game with over 50% of kills.

>>161480316

Here we go!: Knock out 1000 crawlers by jumping on them.
High profit target: Earn 200 dosh with a Husk explosion.
I'm helping: Kill 50 scrakes with the medic shotgun.
In control: Set 100 scrakes on fire without enraging them.
In the zone: Reach a Rack'em Up multiplier of 50.
It's very sensitive: Kill the Patriarch by hitting its tantacle.
Legend of the west: Reach the boss wave as gunslinger without wasting a single shot. (From wave 1)
Minced meat: Kill 6 crawlers with a single shot.
Money shot: Kill 2 big ones with a single shot (no explosives).
Multi-tasking: Knock down a big zed with an RPG dud and another with the backblast at the same time.
Out of my way: Knock down 6 big zeds with Swat's Charge skill within a single series of zed-times.
Outskilled: Parry 6 hits from a scrake and kill it.
Pied Piper: Be targeted by 10 enraged big zeds.
Plot armor: Win a game without getting hit once. (From wave 1)
Pyromancer: Kill 1000 zeds with fire in a single game.
Remember me: Die after killing 6 big zeds in the last minute.
Rip like it's '99: Decapitate a big zed with an eviscerator ricochet.
Someone's at the door: Get grabbed by a clot before 30 seconds into a wave and survive while being grabbed until trader time.
Stray bullet: Kill a zed from 300 meters away.
Supersensory: Kill 10 stalkers within 5 seconds.
The world: Kill 4 big zeds within a single series of zed-times.
To the last drop: Land every single pellet of a DBS alternative shot into a zed's head.
We hardly knew ye: Kill a fleshpound before it starts to rage.
Zedanthropy: Spend 2 minutes in a wave without anyone in your team hurting a single zed.

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>>161480316

>Enabler: Heal over 10 000 points of life in a game.

How, I main medic and I don't think I have over 4,000 heal as my best, and that was a really shitty game.

>>161480316
The more I read those, the more I'm thinking these are related to an endless mode or a very long, 20 wave system or something.

>>161480403
>Kill the Patriarch by hitting its tantacle.
>tantacle

>>161480573
I've seen a few 10k+ medic scores. The team has to suck a lot and the medic has to be very solid.

I remember clearly a match on prison where the healer did 13 (thirteen) points.

>>161480403
>Rip like it's '99
I don't get it. What happened in '99?

>>161480742
So basically, your team has to suck enough yet be good enough to just not die instantly. That's a weird balance.

>>161480861
Columbine? More likely it's a reference to Prince's song party like it's 1999

>>161480316

Where did you see these? they sound retarded

>>161481008
Yeah, it's a special spot you rarely see I guess.

>>161481020
retarded how?

>>161481020
he made them up himself

>>161481309
it's been a boring day at work

>>161481192

guess those made up achievements weren't the only retarded thing in this thread

>>161481601
that's rude and uncalled for
apologize

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>>161480861
>>161481008
Obvious

>>161476191
The game and this thread is full of newfags that complain about the game being too hard and trying to push their silly loadouts on you because that's how they win on Hard.

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>>161481689

You're right, I'm sorry

So I know the DBS is amazing, especially when you stumble raging fleshpounds that are about to smash you, but what's the other shotgun you should carry? Is there any reason to use the M4 over AA12 for trash cleaning?

>>161482576
M4 has slightly more dmg per pellet, a better stumble value and less weight allowing for some more freedom in your load out.
Overall you're better off with the AA-12 in late game because of the bigger ammo pool and how similiar the weapons are otherwise.
If you're going to mainly clear trash, I think, you're fine with either gun in the end and what you prefer. The M4 recoil can make it a bit tricky to quickly dump into scrake and fp heads and reloading those shells after can leave you vulnerable, but the free inventory space allows you to carry quite a lot of strong back up weapons like a scar for example to help you (if you can manage to get the cash).
AA-12 is really helpful to just go full auto and clear an entire room of trash or quickly get rid of a FP/SC and since the reload buff it recieved you're practicly invincible.

>>161482576

AA12 and DBS is all you need senpai

>>161480403
Plot armor: Win a game without getting hit once. (From wave 1)

oh shit

>>161480316
>>161480403
Most, if not all of that shit is literally impossible to do. Not credible, play the fucking game once instead of making stuff up about it.

>>161483845
Is there even a point anywhere in the game you could kill an enemy 300 meters away?

That's almost a third of a kilometer!

>>161484310
Probably, on containment station.

>>161483845
>>161484310
I'll admit 300m might pulling a bit hard, but everything else seems doable to me. The point is to have difficult and/or rare things.

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pubbies are so fucking bad at this game
>demo literally missing clot groups
>crawlers roaming around and being ignored
>enraging all scrakes at the same time
>commando things his priority are FPs when we are about to get boxed

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>>161485123
Yeah I want to see you play if you think you can pull off this shit.

>kill 50 scrakes with the medic shotgun
There's a fucking reason no medic shoots at scrakes and no medic even buys the shotgun in the first place

Either you're god-tier and the game we play is different or a stupid pub among the rest of them. I'm thinking the latter.

>>161482473

>Not being a KF-Sometestmap pro that can beat 6p HoE Scrakes in under a second with a dumb gimmick build.

>>161483273
I play plenty of (admittedly, Suicidal) games where I don't even bother with a Tier 3 or 4 and just stick with the basic Shotgun and the DBS.

That's when I go full support and mostly thin out trouble spawns with SG potshots, heal with the medpistol, and only get real with the DBS when the team needs another helping hand on big guys or we get overrun. Plenty of dosh to hand out, too, so if the team ain't terrible they get kitted out fast.

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>that one shitlord that dies every round and tries to give advice through voice
Are those people even self-aware

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>>161486035
lmao git gud scrub

>>161480316
>>161480403
FUCK! NO!
I hate fucking achievements!

>>161477608
RPG now weighs 9 blocks so you can carry it with the m79.
The m79 now costs only 650

They added the m16+m203 but it's generally not that good

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>>161480403
>Pyromancer: Kill 1000 zeds with fire in a single game.
they told me i could be anything i wanted to be...