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We are born of the old thread, made men by the old thread, undone by the old thread. Our (you)s are yet to open: >>161235695

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp

>Google Document for all the above, but easier to read.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
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Daily Reminder that firefist is fun, especially with oil urns or fighting an enemy in an oil pool
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AHH
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>>161348002
Explosions don't hurt you do they? Seems like a fuckin giggle.
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>>161348002
>HP gradually depletes
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holy shit that felt so good, thanks a lot man
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Have fun with zippizap anon.
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>>161348002
Nice. Got webms?
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and I had JUST enough coldbloods to make it to the 50k for the chikage. URURRUGH i love this game
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>>161348493
Nice. But don't you filthy vileblood ever cross roads with me again :^)
at least not when I have church oath rune equipped
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>>161348628
I only had 5 blood vials left after that ordeal.
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>>161348201
>>161348475

Does about good fist damage just r1'ing on enemies weak to fire too
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I said that I would make the next OP but whatever. For the next time move the google doc to the top so the newfriends stop with the retarded questions

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>bla
>bla
>bla
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>>161348686
what the fuck
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>>161348739
You can make a new thread as soon as the current one hits bump limit, there's no need to wait for page 10
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>>161348861
I probably won't be around after today which is why I wanted to make the new bread.
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>>161348002
Wouldn't arc gems be stronger overall?
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Accidentally posted in old thread: Can I get help on cranky cripple Laurence? I'm BL93 and ringing right outside his door, by Valtyr's bell. Password is "brigmore".
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>>161349626
Ill be there in a min
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>>161349612
yes, but on certain enemies, no

that's why I went autismo to chest farm flat fire gems

here's my other parasite, even though it has more damage it does less per R1 than the fire one on that enemy even after the less + split
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P O S T
O L D
O N E S
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>>161348686
That looks insane, like you're actually using Great Combustion
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How would Doll fight if you were able to battle her?
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>>161349901
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>>161350035
Man, I wish there was more actual pregnancy fetish stuff for Bloodborne.
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>>161349856
Thanks man, see you there!
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>>161349901
Does Ebby count as a Great One?
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>>161349626
Wait I am a bit confused. Which boss are we going tk fight? I am infront of laurence's boss romm.
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>>161350010
Slaps
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>>161350010
She'll throw messengers at you.
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>>161350010
A whip that comes out of her sleeve made out of messengers that are holding hands
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>>161350419
The flaming cleric beast, first vicar. I set the password and rang the bell, do I need to do anything else?
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>>161350723
No. Everything should be set to go.
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>>161350881
Are you at the top or bottom of the stairs? Did you put the password in right?

brigmore

I just changed it to worldwide in case you're outside NA.
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>>161350998
Pass is brigmore. I am the faggot on top of stairs that keeps tricking and zntricking his weapon if you see my ghost.
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>>161349901
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>>161350998
I am sorry anon, but you should get him now.
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>>161351303
I got him down to literally one hit and died. Just fucking kill me.
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>>161351437
Stock up on vial. Let's give it one more try
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Just got the game. Can't get past that wolf bullshit. Just found out there's an actual boss after that thing. Jesus fucking Christ.
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Is it just me or does Bloody Crow have a completely different move set in NG+? He was throwing daggers in NG and now he's using Old Hunter Bone, parrying, and tossing Mist.
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>>161351136
Fuck off amy
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>>161351813
Hug the left.
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>>161351506
I was too eager to eat that vicar pizza.
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>>161351889
Please tell me that kill counted, at least.
>tfw I once killed Orphan just as he killed my host
Never found out if it counted or not.
>>161351813
You can run past them. Do some more exploring. There's a shortcut right there.
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>>161351971
Died again, even worse than last time haha.
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>>161352097
I am ringing :^)
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>>161352002
>Please tell me that kill counted
It didn't
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>>161351889
>yellow dot below bullet count

Never knew what that was for. Bone Ash?
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>>161352002
The kills never count in my experience
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>>161352663
Tells you whether your weapon is tricked or not, filled is tricked, unfilled isn't.
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>>161352663
It indicates if you are in tricked mode or not
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can I search by glyph for a chalice i have the materials for but have not yet made? or do i need to make it, take it off, then search by glyph?
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>>161352663
It's whether your weapon is in trick firm or not.

>>161352135
I keep getting worse at this.
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>>161352795
I am sorry anon, I couldn't roll out of his attacks.
If you couldn't do it one more try though
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>>161353056
One last try, then I'm giving up.
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>>161352767
anyone?
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>>161353562
Try it out and tell us
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It worked! Thanks my man!
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>>161353287
What a ride.
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What was Rom like when she was a human bean?
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>>161353746
not useful.
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>>161354126
Total qt, big titties, enthusiastic about space wizardry, used phantasms for pleasure
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>>161354126
Leggy blonde.
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Where are those fucking FC webms /bbg/

You promised me there would be fucking webms
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>>161348739
Does the patch info really matter one year after it hasn't changed?
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>>161353861
Thanks for sticking with me, I couldn't have done it without you!
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Are Bloodborne or Dark Soul series counted as ARPG or pure Action genre?
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>>161354798
It's a JRPG, it's made by Nips you dummy

>>161354660
Not really. One day we should clean the OP up but it's not like the community for this game is growing so whatever.
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>>161354798
Hard to say. I think most magazines/ reviewers/ sellers count them as ARPGs.

Certainly not Action, anyway. That's Nier, DMC, GoW shit.
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anyone want to fight laurence ng+?

ringing at hunter's nightmare

pass is sodar
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>>161354414
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rate my OC plz
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>>161355725
>didn't see any silver hair waifu/tranny
>didnt see a single church pick
>ran into cranston like 4 times

Saturday sucked
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>>161356171
What's wrong with cranston?
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>>161357386
Fucking Saw Spear.

What I can't fathom is people having trouble with Grumpy Pete, backdashing is the trademark of someone who is just bad at the game, and the beast cutter isn't exactly overpowered.
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>>161355795
I give it a 7/10

Good use of the image, but the life bar is too pixellated and Amelia has bee done before
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>The crazy townsfolk at Hemwick Charnel Lane
christ, this is as bad as central Yarnahm.
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>in NG++
>just mowing right through bosses
is this normal
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Anyone free to help me with Ludwig's on this low level build
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>>161357386

Just annoying.
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>>161357386
>>161358494
post webms of these mysterious men
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>>161359627
and i'm lvl110 btw
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>>161359627
Yeah, you're overpowered and know what to expect and what weaknesses to exploit.
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>spooky introduction
>dynamic OST
>fresh out of the womb but can fuck you up right away
>wields a fucking placenta
>mother is a great one
>harder than the other bosses excluding chalices
>YAAAAAGHH

This boss is a bottomless curse, and a bottomless sea
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Is it just me or does Bloody Crow have a completely different move set in NG+? He was throwing daggers in NG and now he's using Old Hunter Bone, parrying, and tossing Mist
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>>161359679
How low we talking?
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>>161360293
Never mind its I'm fucking possible just getting there. I wanted to play through the game with MLGS.

Lv 40.
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>>161360520
I've got a WIP build at BL52, so I we can go.
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>>161360240
His moveset is always the same. You were just lucky he spammed knives the first time.
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>>161360240
>He was throwing daggers in NG
No he wasn't
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>>161360738
Yes, he was.

>>161360729
Hmm. Strange.
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>>161360868
No. He wasn't.

He can't. That's not one of his behaviors. Did he use ACB too? Because that's just about as likely.
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>>161359785
What's the best way to convert webms after exporting out of PS4 with a USB and keep them under posting size limit?

I will make webms for this Saturday's FC (if there even is one) since nobody else fucking makes them.
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>>161361320
google:
webm for retards
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>>161361320
webms for bakas works just fine
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>>161361383
Post your usual set of webms. They're kinda fun.
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>have FRC opened on this character
>tell myself that I would do at least two or three farming runs a day and I'll have a decent chance of having a few nice 27's by the week's end without burning out
>already skipped Sunday
>cant be motivated today either

Fuck

Why cant we fucking trade in Bloodborne? Goddamn fuck
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Retard question here, do the special gems you get from the pendants/tearstone improve with NG+? Or do you just get the same old stuff?
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>>161361979
NG+ literally changes nothing loot wise, except for Runes you already own turning into Wisdoms.

The shops do get update with some stuff, if you wanna count that as "loot" change.
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>>161362114
>NG+ literally changes nothing loot wise
Ok, I thought as much, thanks. I never broke any of the stuff this run through and I was wondering if I was missing out, like the Plus versions of rings in DS3.
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How do you get past the Charnel Lane villagers?
I've tried running past them many times, and direct confrontation barely works either.
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>>161362786
Try fire, and gitting gud
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>FRC Loran
>Hemwick witch and Bone Ash Hunter in the same room
Please stop
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is there any point in upgrading your firearm if you only use it for parrying?
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>>161363219
Not really, no
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What's a good skill/arcane build that still allows me to use hunter tools? Blades of Mercy is my choice for weapon
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>>161364025
BoM will not really benefit from any Arcane investment, just so you know. It's really a Skill weapon, but as long as you have 50 Skill and your gems, you'll be good.
Burial Blade is in the same boat.
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>>161359061
Those women fucking pushed my shit in regularly on my first playthrough.
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>>161359910
Slimy stuff looks disgusting in this game, they really nailed it
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>>161359910
Do you boys subscribe to the theory that the third umbilical cords come from the orphan?

Or that they appear before a great one is born (mergo in this case)

The location you find the three primary ones would heavily indicate they are from the orphan.The exception of the one from the prostitute, but considering oedon and the moon presences strong correlation, (if they're not the the same being entirely) it seems likely oedon impregnanted her considering her location.
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>>161362786
Just slice them up like cheese, they're not that difficult. Unless you're really under levelled or something.
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>>161364804
They took the cord from Kos' body
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>>161365138
Thats what I gathered, but then the final one with the prostitute is kind of weird.

I'm going with thats her association with cainhurst bloodlines and her location in the oedon chapel.

She gets stomach pains as soon as you kill Rom and the moon presence descends closer
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>>161364025
>>161364271
I honestly think that the arcane damage was added on to BoM/BB specifically to make them unusable for Arcane builds, because they wanted BB/BoM to be for Skill only. The only notable thing it does is make them non-convertible. I mean, I guess it also makes +%phys/+flat arc usable on them, but you're still gonna put them on a Skill build when doing that.
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>>161365138
Yeah which also had Kos' child attached to it ya dingus
That's how umbilical cords work you know
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>>161364271
DAMMIT
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>You will never impregnate Kos
Why even live?
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>>161364804
That was always my assumption. The three primary ones come from Orphan/Kos, but the fourth third is new.
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It's from Mergo's birth, isn't it? It's not like Mergo wasn't born
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>>161361320
people got upset about fc webms for a while, but I posted some last thread from a few weeks ago, I think I have some clips from last week saved I could dig through
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Is skill/arcane with blades of mercy that bad? I was planning to also have a threaded cane on standby that used fire/electric buffs.
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>>161366617
buffs don't scale, the arcane scaling on bom/bb is terrible
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>>161366403

Thread's slow, might as well post some webms.
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>>161366674
Oh, I meant the fire/electric gems
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>>161366403
>people getting mad about content in the game

Post away brohan.

It is a little annoying when the entire thread is nothing but posts like

"nice fight"

But its all good g.
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>>161363219
Upgrade it once for the gem slot, then slap a pulsing gem on it.
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>>161366617
Arcane does very little for BoM. You get ~1/3rd as much AR from scaling per point of Arcane as you do Skill without gems, and any +%phys will only compound that difference. Then on top of that, because the base arcane AR is so low, any increase in arcane AR is worth less than an equivalent increase in physical AR, due to how defense works. In short, going from 60 AR to 100 AR will net a lower increase in damage than going from 200 AR to 240 AR would.

The only reason to go Skill/Arc is if you want to use BoM/BB and also want to use hunter tools, and cannot stand the idea of making two separate builds. There is nothing in the game that scales well with both Skill and Arcane at the same time.
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>>161361942
>get a set of perfectly useable 25% gems
>would like to have 27%s, but can't justify farming for another few hours to get ~6% more damage
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>>161367127
I guess it's mostly for hunters tools then. I can live with that. I also heard tiny tony is a good weapon with arcane too, so may be backup.
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>>161367374
Fuck, I meant tonitrus
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good god I still can't get over how good the soundtrack is.

They fucking nailed it out of the park.

>that living failure theme that fills you with that sense of regret
>cleric beast theme
>amy theme
>the orphan theme build up
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>>161366948
from last thread, making a couple from the fc last saturday, they will be 100$ chikage free
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>>161367652
Amygdala's theme sucks, Ludwig, Laurence and Ebrietas are good
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>>161367652
The power of a fully orchestrated OST, man.
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>>161368105
I hope defiled AMY teams up with HMMMPH to RAPE you while WINTERN LANTERNS watch in the distance
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>>161367652
>that living failure theme that fills you with that sense of regret
>regret

I never got a sense of regret from their theme, it always seemed like one of cosmic awe, being based off of Mars, Bringer of War. I feel like the Living Failures were the first semi-successful attempts at Kin, creating Celestial Emissaries to commune with the cosmos, but they were only one-way devices, letting the cosmos in, but not us out. They were humanity's first real taste of cosmic power and what eldritch tampering could do, hence the cosmic awe of the vocals when they summon the meteors. Fantastic theme regardless, easily one of my favourites.

I never see 'Of the Pthumerian Line' mentioned, Pthumerian Descendant/Elder's themes, probably because it's covered up by all the HMPHing, but it's a great theme, vert menacing, lots of strings. A sense of decadent or corrupt royalty and looming spookiness.
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>>161368317
Sorry Cris Velasco, but the soundtrack of Bloodborne would have been objectively better without your compositions
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>>161368403
I hope you get a 33% attack radial gem with a curse that it makes you not able to stop sucking dicks
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>Make a new build and decide to do a completionist run of the game
>Start Eileen's quest and help her kill Henryk
>As she's yammering on I set down my controller to grab a drink
>DualShock 4's hairpin trigger causes me to blast her in the face with my blunderbuss
>Bitch is immediately hostile and chases me away into Oedon Chapel

Am I fucked? Is she going to be hostile the entire rest of the damn playthrough?
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>>161368395
Yeah regret isnt exactly the word I wanted, awe is close, but not really what I'm trying to say.

I guess a mix of awe and regret, or profound sadness.

Of the pthumerian line is also gr8
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isz particles really bloat the size of the video so these are kind of taking 5ever to really nail down to 3mb, here's another from last thread
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>>161369224
last one
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>toss molotov cocktail
>enemy moves

or
>toss molotov cocktail
>flies right over the enemy
Every god damn time
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>>161369550
Use rope molotovs. They're a lot harder to miss with.
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Chalice dungeons are officially cancer. Anyone got the CHALICE DUNGEONS ARE GUN.jpg because that's what's happening now. Fuck this place
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>>161370409
Shit I meant fun. Anyway fighting twelve spiders at once even kiting them is bullshit.
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>webms

Do you have Psn ID on or something. Saint Elenora is the only one I've fought.
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>>161369550
Mine usually flies straight through limbs despite touching parts. Pain in the ass especially in this chalice dungeon and I need more molotovs also
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> play Bloodborne
> fight vicar amelia with blades of mercy
> she rips me a new one
> use flamesprayer
> it mows her down so bad
Holy shit. The first time I fought her the same thing happened so I went to hemwick to level up and beat her. But this...
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>>161371009
no those are all character names, dunno what to tell you my guy sometimes the netcode connecteth and sometimes the netcode connecteth not
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Do pellets lose damage if you have high insight?
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Who /hoard insight/ here. RPing a gentleman scholar
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>>161371187
It makes your beasthood bar shorter.
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>>161371187
in a round about way, the more insight you have the less base beasthood you have
you can circumvent this some by wearing high beasthood clothes but staying at 1-0 beasthood is ideal for boss farming with bbp
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>>161371060
>Losing to the one armed dog girl.
>Being this shit at video games.
holy fuck Anon kill yourself.
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>>161371697
sasuga nippon
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>>161371697
he's not a hunter; he's a chicken, a giant chicken
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>mfw properly trying out the bloodletter for the first time
Holy shit, this thing's brutal as fuck.
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>>161372407
The one-handed form is good too, very underrated.
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>this is how Rakuyofags perceive the game
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>>161372475
Oh, the 1H moveset IS nice! Pity I can't get as much use out of it since I'm running a BLT build.
But I plan on using phys gems anyway so that way I won't be a one-trick pony entirely. My Chikage still deals "respectable" untricked damage with 3x Mensis Droplet gems.
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>>161372407
What's your build?
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>>161373223
Pretty stock-standard BLT build - 50 VIT, 15 END, 14 STR/SKL, 50 BLT. Not quite there yet, currently at 35 VIT/44 BLT.
It's mostly a build for spelunking, and I figured that since I haven't tried a BLT build so far...
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>>161371060
but Anon, she's so easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms12ftbQv7U

go for the legs and try stay behind her, beast blood pellets help a lot. If you still can't do enough damage go and do the first 1 or 2 (3rd if your insane) chalice dungeons. Even some 10% gems will help compared to the 1.5% you probably have
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>>161374202
>Upgraded cleaver

pfft... noob vid...
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>>161374202
This made me think: did that Amelia guy ever post the full video? I saw the webm of his kill, but not the finished thing.

I don't really care to watch it, just curious if hes done.
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I've just obtained my Platinum

...what do I do with my PS4 now? Wait for Nioh?
I swear this console has no games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL_qUG65P2Q
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>>161374542
Not too my knowledge, but the video posted a few posts up was definetly "him", it's the same character name and gems.

But I'm not 100% it's a guy, the YouTube channel is called Sandy-Witch, with a crudely drawn female avatar. Plus a few threads ago someone asked for the best clothes for a female ass in-game someone replied suggesting Ashen pants + Bone Ash armour and mentioned they were female in spoiler tags afterwards, and had experience in making asses look good. The thing is that Ashen Pants + Bone Ash armour is what Amelianon was wearing in every screenshot except when min-maxing Beasthood. I even cooped with them once in Lower Pthumeru trying to beat Rom.

Could there have been an autistic girl in bbg all along?
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Aight, here are some shit webms from Saturday and some other things I had laying about that I never got around to clipping out.

All the ones from Saturday suck dick because nothing cool happened on Saturday.
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>>161376204
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>>161376204
>>161376204
Should have used a shield and made you run out of bullets.
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>>161376282
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>>161375958
What video are we even talking about?
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>>161376695
Some guy went full autismo and decided he was going to make a video of the fastest possible Amelia kill by getting as geared up as the game allows before hand. He got to Central Pthumeru, farmed gems, upgraded his cleaver to +6, shit like that.

He would bring it up at every opportunity.
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>I once derided gem farmers
>now I farm heavy abyssals
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>tfw repeatedly fucking up parries against winter lanterns
FUCK.
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>>161376869
> got to Central Pthumeru, farmed gems, upgraded his cleaver to +6, shit like that.
> Centeral Pthumeru

It was far worse than that anon, Amelianon was doing lower Pthumeru root dungeons to find every possible Lost/Uncanny weapon avalible, as well as a bunch of useless runes. The worst bit is he was at level 10 the entire time, for no fucking reason whatsoever.
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>>161377602
Just dash back before they start to grab, so that you're out of range just in case you miss the timing.
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>>161377834
Pretty sure my issue is that I'm simply waiting "too long" before actually trying to parry. Half the time the parry goes off, but it's too damn late because I land the parry in the same frame that I get grabbed. I don't even know how I'm managing to do it so consistently.
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>>161378260
It's not hard to do that.

Literally just back off. If you time it that close and you're out of range anyway, the parry'll go off and you won't get grabbed. You don't need to be in their nuts to parry them.

Either fix your timing or dash backwards once and effectively increase the parry window.
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So I don't know if anyone still wants to discuss BB lore at all, but can we say that Lawrence is a tragic hero in this all?

He tried his very best to fix everything and ended up getting his intentions screwed up. Wilhelm is kind of a dick by getting the whole cosmos thing involved, and I really don't see the Moon Presence as anything more than a force of nature.

So on that note, who the hell is the main antagonist of BB?
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>>161380048
Laurence is the main antagonist of BB. He betrayed Provost Willem and the entirety of Byrgenwerth, stole forbidden blood, and created the Healing Church for little reason other than thinking his path was the right one.

Most of the bad shit in game can be traced directly back to Laurence. The beast plague? Direct result of him offering blood transfusion. The horrors in The Orphanage and the Hidden Village? They're both the homes of the upper echelons of the Healing Church. Everything is Laurence's fault.
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Just got this game on my ps4
how active is the online?
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Haven't played in ages. Where can I find some builds to follow? I hear the pizzacutter is a good, cheesy weapon. Is the Raiterspallasch worth using frequently? Going full knight mode like pic related
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>>161382628
Not him but how is the reiter with 50/25 SKL/BLT?
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>>161380048
Willen wanted to reach the cosmos by not relying on Great Ones but by studying them. The Church is the opposite of that, they are dependent on blood and beckon Great Ones to ask for insight. Everything exept the fishy ham can be traced back to Laurence spliting up.
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>>161384553
To be fair the Hamlet was a pretty big fuckup
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I'm looking for particularly difficult dungeon bosses, does anyone have any glyps for FRC hole arenas? Also things like FRC BSB in a poison arena or FRC Hotdog in an oil arena?

I've seen a few non-FRC but without the curse there isn't much challenge
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>>161385173
You are one crazy fuck
I can't help you, but godspeed
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>>161385173
I don't think Poison Arena BSB is possible, since outside of Depth 2 Hintertomb I'm 99% sure he can't spawn as a Layer 3/4 boss and the poison arena can't appear on layer 1/2.
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Can anyone explain how I get the extra damage from beast blood pellets? Do I just eat one and then mash away or do I need the rune and special high beasthood gear?
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>>161386810
Eat and mash. But the effect gets better the higher your beasthood goes.
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>>161386856
weapon with fast R1s would be optimal then? And equipping shit like Brador's gear
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>>161387009
Large weapons build more beasthood than small. Strong attacks more that weak. Use what your build calls for.
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>>161387009
I got too excited and hit post too fast. Beasthood stops giving more damage after 300. Going past this will increase the time you can have the damage buff in between attacks but nothing else.
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Defiled Keeper of Old Lords is fucking my Ass...
Why
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>>161389053
Parry that bitch.
>tfw FRC Keeper gave me infinitely more trouble than Hotdog and Amy ever did
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Why is Adella giggling and moaning like crazy during the blood moon? Any lore reasons? And why does she "love" me suddenly?

https://youtu.be/YaT8fhUifpE?t=294
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Does anyone else really struggle with Gehrman? Usually I parry human NPCs like him but he moves at the speed of light. I just can't do it properly. I always just end up brawling and trading hits but I don't like doing that
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>>161385386
It's all fun, hombre

My full-gemmed pizza cutter with papers and pellets makes quick work of most FRC bosses. My record was FRC headless bloodletter in about 30~ seconds

Chalice dungeons are honestly one of the few places that reminds me of my original DeS run, shitting myself and having to be resourceful

>>161385413
That's wank mate, but thanks

On that topic I've ran into a few Keepers as the final layer boss for earlier root dungeons. Is an FRC depth 5 layer 3 (probably not 4) Keeper possible?

I'm mostly looking for FRC Ebrietas in an abyss arena, I've seen one on YT but the dick didn't put the glyph in. No luck on Reddit either, it's usually FRC ''electric donut'' Camerabeast
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>>161389531
tfw never gonna commission Adella porn

I tanked it at Imposterfu
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Any good place to farm beast blood pellets? I don't have the cosmic badge yet.
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>>161389531
Good Hunter is a harem MC.
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>>161390154
Old Yharnam backtracking from BSB

I've sometimes got them, idk how good it would be with Eye rune(s) or Broccoli
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i'm doing a cheese run. Any good/fun ways to cheese the one reborn?
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Where can i farm some decent gems before the dlc and mensus. I upgraded my cane to +6 and I'm still using the starting gems :/. I just finished the first cd though, about to hit central pthumeru.
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>>161390394
Beastman beast claws with fire paper.
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>>161391130
You can get +10% gems by farming...
> :/
fuck off
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>>161376282
Did I say you could fight in my dungeon

Psh... the nerve of some people...
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>>161392772
From the cd's? I'm rocking 7.5%'s atm.
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>>161393429
I got +12-15% pretty early on in the dungeons in my latest run, depth 2 or 3 iirc
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Can someone help me beat the CRF Elder? pass bbgg
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>>161393679
or not, i can't even ring my bell. Anyone know why that is?
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>>161393549
Awesome, thanks for the help m8, i don't know how i got so far with such shitty gems but i guess i just blew through it too fast.
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>>161393875
You can easily finish the base game with 10% gems on a +8 weapon. Our 27%s are fc autism.
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>>161394467
Well i remade this character so i could stop at 98 and try a fc or two even though I'm garbage at pvp. My last char was a bl 150 skill build with the rakuyo
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>>161394919
>bl 150
>build
Anyways, there's a watcher we named Lumpy that drops good cursed phys gems. He guards a lever but I forgot which layer and pthu chalice he is. I think it's L2 Lower Pthu.
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>>161395201
Yea at that point it really isnt a build but it was my first character on my ps4. Hmmm l2 lower pthu, I'll check it out, my character is like bl 60-something atm so i should be able to farm him. I'll be finishing up central pthumeru soon
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>>161393752
>>161393875
It's working after going back to the dream and back.
Anyone?
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>>161395534
Pass is bbgg, right? Ringing in a second
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>>161395534
I've been SRRCing for a while, are you still there?
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>>161389053
>keeper of the old lords quoting Willem
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>>161397198
>implying Willem isn't actually Keeper of the Old Lords
Get on my lore level
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>>161397961
But I thought Willem was Oedon.
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>>161396768
>>161397168
Sorry I've been off, I'll be back in about 30 mins
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>>161390167
That's cute, in it's own way.
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how do i cheese laurence? i can't for the love of god kill him in the lava chimp out phase.
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>>161398442
Lock on and run in circles. Only attack once when he stops or when he shits/vomits lava.
Dodging backwards = certain death.
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>>161397168
>>161398332
Back now if you wanna go?
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>>161400027
Elder sickle or Elder crossbow-spear?
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>>161400169
sickle, he kills me in 2 hits
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>>161400278
Just abandon the CRF. It isn't worth it.
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>>161400278
If you can use the phantasm shell, Pthumerians are weak as fuck to arc
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>>161400354
>>161400690
Just got him to 5% hp and he throws his fucking weapons through the wall
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Any of you good hoonters wanna give me a hand with defiled Amygdala? Trying to get an early burial blade from these dungeons.
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>>161401219
You can get one from a Lower Loran glyph. No need to mess with Amy just yet.
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>>161401442
Yeeeaaah I might do that first and come back when I've upgraded it. Thanks.
I kinda want to put her down anyway though, so if anyone feels up to it just let me know.
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FUCK YOU
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I didnt pay attention much, why are all the people turning crazy and into beasts? Somthing about lycanthrapy (sorry about spelling)
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>>161401442
Is it easier to make a lower loran root with frc than a root pthumeru ithyll? I'm looking for the fastest way to get to farm pwmf22gu
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>>161401797
The Duunker King put a curse on the Queen and so she poisoned the well and the dirty water gave everyone Ash fever, which turns them into beasts.
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>>161401696
YES I GOT THE CUNT
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>>161402015
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>>161401902
IIRC, Lower Loran requires less materials, and doesn't really require that you go all the way to Ihyll. Loran can just be made earlier, so most people do either that or Isz.
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Wow, getting raped by frc hblb is really another experience.
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>>161402452
Yeah I hate that fucker.

Try and stay either between his legs and constantly move behind him, or outside of his left leg (your right).

Once you get the tells and timing on his double-fist slam and his stomp-jump he gets a lot more manageable.
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>>161402921
Thanks for the tips anon.
I tried with pizza cutter but that shit was too slow. But well there is always saw spear, paperz and pellets in an emergency. If pellets were only sold for echoes...
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Why can I only apply 1 cursed gem to my weapon?

Uncanny saw spear btw
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>>161403654
Upgrade it more.
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>>161403871
it's at +9
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Beat the game (somewhat) blind. Only really used the wiki if I was absolutely lost or saw something that obviously had a hidden aspect to it ( like using the make contact emote on mother brain )

The bosses are easier than souls, mobs are harder. After playing with the noob crutch saw spear every other weapon feels too slow for me now unfortunately. First playthrough was Skill, about to start a Strength play through. I completely missed the DLC, no way I want to experience that in NG+ my first time around. Base game was difficult enough as it is.
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I've never seen this before. When you walk into those candles some messengers teleport you somewhere.
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>>161403954
Maybe you only have one cursed gem in your inventory then?

>>161403974
I went through the DLC first time in NG+, it is tough, but by this point you ought to have at least one +10 weapon and Mensis gems for extra damage. It's a rush, I'll you what, trying to survive but knowing you're well able.
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>>161403954
Are you sure you're using the right gem shapes?
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>>161404307
An astute observation.
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>>161404308
nah i have 3


>>161404328
This is what I have, I was told uncanny is the best for phys gems
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LOREFAG TIME

>HUNTERS IN THE HUNTER'S NIGHTMARE WITH RED EYES ARE UBER STRONG AND DROP VERMIN EVEN WITH NO CARYLL RUNE INVOLVED
>WHEN FEMALE BEAST PATIENT LEADERS SHRIEK TO SOUND THE ALARM, EVERY BEAST WHO HEARS THEM GETS RED EYES AND STARTS TO INFLICT SLOW POISON WHEN THEY HIT YOU

WHEN THEY SOUND THE ALARM AND BUFF EVERYBODY NEARBY, THEY'RE EXCITING EVERYBODY'S VERMIN INFESTATIONS.
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>>161404450
Looks normal to me. Just reset the game or something. Are you absolutely sure you have more cursed gems of the right shape?
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>>161404307
Yeah, it's an infrequent occurrence, but they pop up every so often
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>>161404450
The cursed gems you have might not be the right shape, gems come in four shapes, you have Radial and Triangle shaped slots, the other cursed gems you have might be Waning gems, the crescent shaped ones. Can you show us your gems in your inventory?
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Is there any way of increasing the chance to get cursed physical triangles?
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>>161404648
>>161404859
Oh yeah they are all triangles, well shit.
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>>161404509
I'LL BELIEVE IT
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>>161401579
Scratch that, lunch break over. Back to work for me.
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Hell yeah, just found a Blood Rock in my dungeon
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Only just barely made it through one playthrough of endless screaming and shit music before going back to Pokemon. Sure the other souls games are just as yelly but this game has so many boner-killing issues that it seems so much worse.

Having to farm for estus in this one is fucking stupid. Why they'd try out something new that sounds bad even on paper is just absurd.

Whoever made that fucking bird thing the final boss and let you wander around like there was something more after that is a fucking hack (it was probably miyazaki). Like, are you just supposed to go backtrack through old areas looking for little side areas and then just trigger the ending once you feel like it? What kind of epic grand finale is that? Even DS2 had a more interesting ending than that - you beat the boss, you're shown the ending and you get some epic poetry to go with it. In this game you walk up to the guy in the wheelchair that doesn't have anything to do with anything and he just kills you and that's it.

And that's all without mentioning the key items that don't do shit, like that chalice, or the stone some dude in a house gave me, or that key in the fucked up city with the mimics that shoot at you that doesn't open fucking anything. This game is just so blatantly unfinished, and in ways far worse than any of that 6 weapons memery. Do these things that sound important only work if you drop another $30 on the DLC or some shit?

How the hell can people be so fanatical about this? It sure can't be because of the story since you barely have any idea what you're doing or what any of these fags in top hats are doing here (there isn't even an explanation for why you respawn which all the other souls games and Nioh have), or the gameplay since only like half the weapons feel any more badass than any of the fucking longswords in DS3. What kind of mindset do you have to enjoy this so much that you'd play it over and over, let alone maintain a fucking general about it?
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>>161407560
Nice pasta.
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>>161407560
>back to pokemon
This is some grade A bait
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>>161407560
Bait's a bit too obvious, amigo.
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>>161407560
Decent try, but too obvious.

Still though, you got replies. It's a solid bait.
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I am giving BB a try after so long playing Dark Souls and just have a quick question.

I want to use the Holy Moonlight Sword however I understand this is quite a late game weapon and is based on Arc/Str/Skl

What would people recommend I use before I pick this bad boy up and what sort of stats should I go for early game (probably not much point putting Arc all the way up if I cant use the weapon yet)

I quite liked the look of the saw cleaver but will this work with the stats I will be raising?
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>>161407560
I'm sure I've read this before, but the Pokemon part seems new
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soooo are celestial fucks aliens or not?
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>>161407930
the anon that posted this originally said something about the Nioh beta instead of Pokemon, not sure why this one changed it.
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>>161408019
you can use the saw cleaver with base stats because it shreds the whole fucking game, but for an hmls build the base line is 25/25/25, so you can grab 25/25 str/skl first for the saw cleaver before landing the hmls and then pump arc
for a finished build if you're looking to pvp or just stop at a certain level to not feel like an unspecialized goober you will take that 25/25/25 and raise either str or arc to 50
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>>161408083
They used to be humans so no.
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>>161408019
Best spread for the HMLS is 50STR/25SKL/25ARC

Cleaver scales primarily with Strength, so leveling that as a standby is fine. The cleaver is also one of the best two weapons in the game, losing out only to the Saw Spear.

You can also rush the HMLS if you're good. The boss you get it from can be the fourth boss you fight.
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>>161408019
25/12+/50 Str/Skl/Arc or 50/12+/15+. Ideally you'll want Str or Arc at 50, Skill 12-25 and the other stat at 25. For 50 Arc, Fire Saw Spear. For 50 Strength, any Strength weapon that fancies you. Saw Cleaver can be used for either build.
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Can someone help me with Ebrietas in cursed dungeon? Pass: bbg
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>>161408083
The blue lads, no, they used to be human. But then again, so did Rom, it does get to the point where they might as well be alien they're so badly tampered with on a fundamental level. It's like beasts, once human, but no longer so. Celestial Ayys are regarded as Kin.
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>>161408148
>>161408239
>>161408304

Thanks guys, sounds like a plan.

Now raising str or arc, what is the difference? which would be better for HMS?

I plan to use it in the second (glowing) form most of the time, if that makes a difference.
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>>161408493
arc increases the beam damage but is less overall damage as it's a smaller base damage and the modifiers are low per swing, even tricked
str increases the untricked form's damage by a shit ton, the tricked form also gains damage on everything but the beams
the l2 is going to be doing similar damage regardless of str or arc at 50
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>>161408493
50 Str for better Phys damage (both modes do Phys damage), 50 Arc for the moonbeams and Hunter Tools. Also Heavies for 50 Str, Colds for 50 Arc.
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>>161408493
HMLS is weird. Long story short is that the untricked standard sword mode scales almost entirely with STR, the tricked glowy sword mode scales with a mix of STR and ARC, and the actual moonbeam projectiles scale primarily with ARC.

That being said, most melee attacks get more out of STR than ARC, with a few attacks swinging more on the ARC side of thing due to modifiers.

Basically, run STR if you want to be able to use the normal form at all, and if you want to use the sword at its most effective in melee. Level ARC if you want your moonbeams to have some extra kick and you're okay with sacrificing some raw damage on the rest of the sword.
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>>161408312
I can give you a hand but I am shit at first tries. Might take some time.
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>>161409327
That's fine, she just keeps 1 shotting me with that bastard charge attack
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>>161409414
Dodge to the side once and then back once.
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>>161409414
Are you capable of tanking it? I ask because I bet you're taking instability damage from dodging/running. Can you just sit there at full HP and take it to the face and survive? You SHOULD be able to if you haven't neglected VIT.
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>>161409695
Sometimes I can stand there and survive it with about 10% hp but sometimes even if I don't dodge it still one shots me.
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>>161409821
Try to master surviving it. You're dying because of either being hit twice or because of instability.

I mastered FRC BriBri by learning how to tank that attack with my face.
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>tfw just want to patrol Yharnam quelling the beast plague
>forced to go fight cosmic aliens and expose a deep religious conspiracy
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>>161409821
Are you ringing?
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>>161410281
there's a new position opening up in the hunter's nightmare
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>>161410296
yes
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>>161410397
Hold on. I am gemming up and coming.
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>>161410296
Need a second for Ebby-chan? I can SRRC in maybe
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When you buy a bloodrock in insight shop, does the bloodrock vanish? Because I was able to buy it like three or so times.
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>>161410567
>>161410850
sure but no one is joining my game
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god i always manage to fuck up literally every npc questline on my first playthroughs of souls games

The little girl is gone, the old lady hates my guts, i met that raven woman once and haven't seen her since, the dude on the turret wont talk to me and just shoots me with his fucking cannon if i climb up there

why does everyone hate me ;_; at least alfred is nice.
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>>161410947
I am srrc'ing too. It takes it sweet time.0
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>>161408740
I actually get really high AR on the normal sword mode with 25/25/50 and nourishing gems. I think if I made the build more str oriented it gives me ~36 or so AR according to mugenmonkey, but the 50 arc makes tools really good and moonbeams hit for around 400 uncharged iirc on players. Are you sure the normal sword isn't affected by arc?
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>>161411061
Little girl: Don't give her the brooch

Granny: Don't take her sedatives as the night progresses

Raven woman: Go out the big front arch where you spawn into Cathedral Ward, immediately look to your left, she should be there, if you go too far into the story, she won't be there

Tower lad: You unlock a shortcut back into Old Yharnam from another area past an optional boss, approach him from the shortcut and he's friendly
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>>161411256
it's effected in a small way, the modifier is like .3 compared to tricked which is I think .7
the ar may be similar but the actual damage will be different as a larger portion of the higher ar will be used to calculate untricked damage
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>>161411061
Have you encountered a hoonter at Gascoigne's boss lamp?
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>>161411112
can we assume it's not going to work after this long waiting?
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I know it's in the OP but how can one acquire an Uncanny version of Ludwig's Holy Sword relatively quickly?
According to the OP it's in Pthumeru defilement and man I'm really not enjoying this place and the dungeons are really starting to get to me entirely. My hitpoints are halved but still blood vials have shit scaling on top of that if I am hit I die instantly with 650 hitpoints I'm 40 vitality of course. I wish I had PSN+ really bad now so I could ask for help against this asshole of a boss faggot scythe user the electric dildo wank, I didn't enjoy it the first time and I wont enjoy it now.
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>>161411462
Usually it creates a chalice after 5 minutes max. I really don't know what's happening anon.
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>>161411256
AR lies. Whatever portion of the AR listed on the weapon card is Arc is pretty much barely applying to the untricked mode.

For example, I have a 50/25/12 HMLS with 850 AR. 733 of that is Physical. The entire thing hits like a truck, with the exception of my 15 damage or so moonbeams.
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>>161410947
I've been SRRCing for a while now, are you sure the chalice isn't private?
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>>161411425
No, i went back there a bunch though hoping the little girl would show up ;_:

I'm used to From's crippling autism in designing questlines now, so everytime i kill a boss or find an npc i run through the whole fucking game again trying to see if something will change

Oh, and i don't want to spoil myself too much but i've been using all the madmans knowledge i found so far and not spending it (apart from Gascoines outfit) and my friend saw it and just smirked and said 'good luck' when i said i wanted to save it. Am i being full retard?
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>>161411349
I see. Would you say it's worthwhile overall to use the sword thusly if l like hunter tools?

Also, would a lower level invader focused around 25/25/15 work well with the sword?
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>>161411487
>ludwig's
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>>161411638
Just checked, it's not private.

It's a depth 5 Isz with foretid rotted and cruse on it.
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>>161411682
yeah I still use the untricked form on my arc build because the moveset is really good, the main draw of a 50 arc hmls is being able to use elementally converted weapons with it as tools scale all the way to 99 arc so they'll be decent but not devastating
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>>161411661
You're playing the cool way. Stacking insight lets you see things that normally men cannot. It makes the game harder because being able to see them means you can be hit/affected byy them.
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>>161411824
Have you set your location to worldwide?0
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>>161411824
did you share it?
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>>161411750
I don't have the expansion so no moonlight sword for me and the hunters axe is starting to feel like shit or what the hell should I swap to then?
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>>161411897
yes and the password is bbg
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>>161411936
I just made it and jumped in, didn't tick anything else. But doing that hasn't stopped people joining in the past. Do you need to do that for a root chalice?
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>>161411947
saw cleaver or saw spear. You don't need no shitter ludwig's
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>>161411661
I almost always sit on my insight except to buy outfits. You'll be fine, my man. Just be aware that your insight caps at 99, so things that usually trigger you to get one will be wasted if you run around at the cap.

Game doesn't really get harder in any substantial way. There are only a few examples of insight having a drastic impact. Look below if you want to know.

Having no insight makes the Witches of Hemwick unable to summon

Having a load of insight fucks up your frenzy resist, and also lowers your beasthood cap.

A couple of enemies gain an additional attack, but you'll almost never notice.
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>>161411824
>foretid
Why in the fuck does everyone have such a problem spelling this word? Even in the docs it's misspelled.

Is it an inside joke I'm too new to be privy to?
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>>161412061
yeah for root chalices you have to share it when you open it on the altar
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>>161412156
No, people just can't spell foetid for some reason.
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>>161412072
I felt the trick form is saw spear was really shit, I'm not sure how I feel about the saw cleaver however.
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>>161412167
alright it's set to open now, should work now.

>>161412156
sorry lad it was just a typo
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>>161412219
>foetid
It's fucking "fetid" you Brit fuck.
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>>161412249
It actually is. You either want to r1 spam in untricked or pellet and l1 transformation spam.
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Shit, my bad
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>>161412356
Both are correct.
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>>161412651
No.
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>>161412675
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/foetid
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god damn you ebby
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>>161412745
No.
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>>161412783
I'm gonna spam her with gloves when go in, try and interrupt that fucking charge, goddamn
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>>161412783
It really takes a long time but it works. That's strange. Maybe your nat type is type 3. that could maybe influence it. If you can set it to at least type 2 in the future.
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>>161412356
I'm american and I just prefer the version with the 'o' because I took Latin in college.
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>>161412887
I've had 2 people join so far, that last time I just instantly died because i thought i could face tank it but it just 1 shot me.

I'll wait for both of you this time
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>>161412859
want to continue waiting for the other guy?
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Ffs that was a shit performance from me, sorry. I need to hug on her left I think.
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damn, almost had her
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>>161413386
>>161413530
Trying a bolt pick now, hoping I can hurt her more
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Lmao, ebby pizza was delicious anon :^)
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>>161413821
thanks guys. tfw there's another layer now
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>>161401219
Saw cleaver/spear are objectively the best weapons

Can we stop this meme? They're great but the weapons in this game are so diverse that different people are going to do better with whatever best suits their sensibilities. Statements like these can't be anything more than subjective, and raw l1 spam dps numbers aren't a definitive way to determine anything.
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When you buy a blood rock from insight shop, does it vanish from the shop? Because I was able to buy like 3 from the shop, which is kind of strange.
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>>161414038
Let us know if there's any bullshit on the last layer
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>>161414217
Nope, you can keep buying them, they just cost 60 insight every time.
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>>161414337
Noice, thanks anon.
Also what should you invest your blood echoes in when you have bought all the items in the game? Anything smart to do with the echoes?
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>>161414237
Got one of those teleporting elders now. Hope he's not as hard as the sickle twat.
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>>161414152
sorry you suck at using saws dude, they're objectively the most effective weapons, if you can't use them that doesn't mean they lose that status
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So i beat Gascoine on my first try.
Does that mean I'm gud?
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>>161414615
Once you've hit your personal level cap and have stocked up on everything, really just max out vials and bullets when you want to. Nothing else to do with echoes besides that.

I'm walking around with seven and a half million echoes, nothing to spend them on, still afraid of losing them.
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>>161414689
Elder's not so bad, he's definitely easier than Maximum HMPH because he's doesn't spam his bullshit. He's weak as balls to arcane, if you can use Phantasm Shell, use it.
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>>161414910
>still afraid of losing them
As I am farmin watcher for teh koreen gemz I always forget to pick them up when I die. But man I just know that feeling too well, haha.
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>>161414870
>immediate ad hominem
I'm actually excellent with the saws, l already said they're fantastic. But unless you're talking about pve vs. beasts, then all other things being equal it's extremely short sighted to claim that any weapon is the best -objectively.-
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>>161404906
Just farm Isz Watchers, that's nearly all they drop. For 27.2% Phys triangles.

If you havnt reached Isz yet, just farm Winter Lanterns in fishing hamlet. They drop Droplet gems which are shape-free. 22.3% is best they can drop.

If you havnt reached fishing hamlet yet farm Clarence the Chest guarding madman in lower Hintertomb layer 1pre-boss bonus area. He drops 16.5% +14.9 flat.
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>>161414152
Nigga have you tried l1 spam fire paper and beasthood pellet? If you want to go for maximum autism, then just switch to pizzacutter. It surely makes a difference.
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>>161415007
I haven't leveled arcane at all so I can't use it.

Got him low 2 out of the 3 attempts so far.

Just 1 shot me from full hp with his jump
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>>161415129
The only thing short sighted here is you refusing to accept that the highest dps in the game means they're objectively the most effective weapons in the game as this game is essentially about doing damage and not taking damage so whatever can deal the most damage as fast as possible is objectively the best suited for the objective of the game
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>>161415132
Yeah I am currently farming isz. I know that ay lmaoos drop triangle tempering damp too but only (5). And droprate of those from watchers is increasing my frenzy meter.
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>>161415180
Elder's definitely awkward more than anything, can't stay locked on to him. Watch out for the double crossbow shots when he gets low on health, those catch me out sometimes, as do the lingering explosions on his swipes. He's a sneaky lad, but much more manageable than Nightmare of HMPH
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>>161415281
Oh and I just found out that the small bug in yzb3qrhr can drop a waning gem (5). If that's useful information for anybody
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>>161415270
There's that word again. If this were a turn based rpg, you would have an argument there. But it's an action game with diverse movesets. If the best player in the world mained the saif or reiterpallasche, and switched to the saw, they would not immediately be more effective in doing so because they play very differently. Pumping numbers only works in mmos and traditional jrpgs.
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>>161415662
that has nothing to do with objectivity, as given enough time to practice he would then be more effective with the more effective weapon
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>>161411487
Since you don't have PS+, you won't be able to search for a glyph for the Uncanny LHB. You'll have to create your own roots for the very slim chance of one having an Uncanny LHB, so I wouldn't bother trying. Any weapon version is alright if you stick to the Droplets from Winter Lanterns in Mensis since they fit in any shape. DLC Winter Lanterns drop 22.3% Droplets which are higher than the ones in Mensis.
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>>161415836
The only thing correct about that statement is that objectivity has nothing to do with this.
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>>161415448
got em

arcane scaling +50
psys attack +12.7
increases stamina cost 1.5%

tfw no physical gems
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>>161415281
> Watchers
> Droprate

The boss versions, not the ones guarding levers/chests. They ALWAYS drop a gem and physical is the most common effect.

Don't even both looking at the Ayy lmao gems, Ayy's a have a serious case of the shittyness modifier which makes any gem dropped worse regardless of rating or cursed bonus.

>>161415523
> got a Waning

that's an offshape, happens about 1/100 drops of any gem. It's cool, but nothing ground breaking.
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>>161416695
That's a garbage gem.

Scaling should go up to 65. +flat physical is useless on an elemental weapon because of how defense works (it will Litterally add 1-2 damage once you hit someone).
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>>161416889
Yeah I just want to farm some good phys gems, need 2 wanings and triangle I guess.
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>tfw no greatshield trick weapon
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>>161417027
For pure phys use a weapon that has two radial and one triangle slot.
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>>161417373
>shields
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>>161417649
Yeah I meant radials.
i'm clueless as to what dungeons I need to make to farm good phys gems, I don't meet the requirements for any of the ones I find on google.
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>>161417779
>implying you wouldnt want to bash people on the head with a greatshield that splits into twin shields
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It may not be amazing, but it's probably one of my better attempts against the Orphan. I got hit a few too many times due to being greedy or trying to be clever.
https://youtu.be/IgWIp9h0of0
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>>161417851
You need to make a Depth 5 FRC root dungeons at least once and have both Ihyll and Isz root to use Watcher glyphs.
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Anyone up for rom in the chalice dungeons? He is doing my head in.

Pw is bbg.

Ringing.
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Questions:

What's your purpose as a hunter and the hunters before you (only those bound by the dream)?

What exactly is the doll in the dream, why does she make you stronger?

Who's dreaming the hunter's dream and why?

What's Vermin?
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>>161418165
Not ba-
>chikage
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>>161417862
Isn't that in DS2?
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>>161418948
yea
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>>161418352
Do I need to do lower loran depth 5?
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>>161418948
Yeah but its shit.
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>>161418583
>What's your purpose as a hunter and the hunters before you (only those bound by the dream)?

Contracted by the nameless Moon Presence for nefarious cosmic deeds, it's pretty u clear why Eileen and Djura also dreamed

>What exactly is the doll in the dream, why does she make you stronger?

Another unclear thing. I personally think she's some kind of Great One because it's implied you become her surrogate child in the third ending.

>Who's dreaming the hunter's dream and why?

It's not actually a literal dream. The terms 'dream' and 'nightmare' are references to H.P. Lovecraft's Dreamlands stories, in whuch humans access a fantastic and strange world via sleep, but other creatures, like Ghouls, access differently, like going underground. The Nightmare itself a huge alien dimension comprised of various layers/spaces seemingly stacked on top of each other. From the bottom up it goes Hunter's Dream>Hunter's Nightmare>Fishing Hamlet>Nightmare Frontier>Nightmare of Mensis. The Hunter's Dream seems to exist just a place to hold Hunters the Moon Presence wants for whatever reason.

>What's Vermin?

Read the description. Small insect things found in blood and the 'source of man's impurity'. Highly possible that the Beast Scourge is the symptoms of vermin infestation.
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>>161419209
Nope, Watchers don't spawn in Loran glyphs.
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Is the meta still 100?

I haven't played in a while, what are the optimal stats for Health and Stamina?
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>>161419959
98 if you want to avoid 120 shittery
Vit: min 40 max 50
End: 20 is optimal. 25 max

Str, skl, blt, arc softcap is 25, hardcap 50. if you want to do a hunter tool spam your arcane can go above 50 as hunter tools scale also with 60 70 etc well
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>>161419959
80-120, 98 here. 40-50 Vit, base-20 End.
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>>161420163
nice i didnt fuck it up
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>7.5million echoes literally just vanished into thin air

No one picked it up, it aint on the floor Pharaoh Fameses III, where
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>>161420163
> hardcap 50
Wrong. Hardcaps are 99. 50 is another softcap and the point where diminishing returns start kicking into overdrive.
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>>161420284
You definitely didn't need them if you were carrying so many of them like that.
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>>161420441
Absolutely 100% not at all, essentially worthless, you just gotta wonder where the fuck that goes. There's no other floors, not in the room beyond, literally just gone.
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>>161420650
Weird stuff. Reloading the area did nothing, I'm assuming?
I've had my echoes appear in mid-air, unable to be retrieved.
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>>161419959
> is the meta still 100

Around that, yeah. 98 is the offical bbg meta but a few points either way doesn't matter. I always go to 100 because it's a good number. 98 feels silly.

> optimal Health/Stamina

50 Vit is recommended, never go below 40 if you plan on being viable in PVP. Ebdurance depends on your ability to stamina manage and weapon choice. Many weapons are viable at base END, heavier weapons require 15-20. Over 20 is always a waste.

Remember that you can get 10%, 15% and 20% stamina runes. So if you want more stamina you can have it without wasting levels. Since health runes arnt as good (15% is the highest) and you can't increase damage at all with runes. So spending levels on VIT/ damage stats is better than Endurance.
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>>161420803
How do you feel about blood rapture in pvp? I'm pretty fond of it.

Also, how would you say 38 vit is for sl75 invasions?
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Ever just feel like dropping a chalice when the boss is a Pthumerian Descendant? I do.
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>>161420163
98 doesn't avoid 120. It avoids 150.
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>>161419319
The doll explicitly states that she was created by humans, and she doesn't strike me as the kind of npc that lies. That said, only being interactive with insight, you think perhaps she inherited some form of will from a great one?
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>>161421182
I just put on Clawmark 3 and start gun-spamming. It's incredibly easy to chain parry him once you manage to land a single one.
>tfw I try to visceral him too quickly and end up just hitting him with a normal R1, totally missing the opportunity
Don't get hasty either.

FRC Darkbeast is my wall.
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>>161419489
But what if they do and you just haven't found the right glyph?
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relatively new to chalice dungeons, how much better does cursed make my gems.

Is it worth the suffering
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>>161421414
They don't. No one has ever found them in there. You want Ihyll for Radials, Isz for Triangles.
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>>161418583
>What exactly is the doll in the dream, why does she make you stronger?
She's your new mom.
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>Trying to get into TOH DLC for the first time.
>It's a new character
>Getting frustrated trying to find it
>Look up videos on how to get in
>"it's right here" ( but that doesn't actually tell you anything )
What the fuck where is the amygdala it's huge is fuck how am I missing it did my game bug out or something
>eventually find it
>it's invisible
>realize insight lets you seem them
>realizing they were there in yharnam THE WHOLE TIME, just invisible
Wow that's scary as fuck
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>>161421497
Cursed gems are always the highest tier gems. You learn to deal with halved health. Most bosses people farm aren't that hard really.
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>>161420163
>being this wrong on so many levels
You need more eyes in your brain.
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>>161421595
Did you not notice this fhte first time you played?

They appear after rom or if you have 40 insight
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>>161421595
The game literally fucking tells you where it is when you pick the item up.
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>>161421595
Is this your first time playing BB period or something? Did you just pick up the game and magically start at the DLC?
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>>161421640
I dont have ps+ tho so I'd have to make my own dugneons.

Well I'm going in then
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>>161420984
It's fine.

Not many realize the wonders of a free heal per visceral though, so go nuts.
It's pretty great for SKL builds since Viscerals only scale with SKL.
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>>161421318
That's true. But doesn't 108 avoid 150 too?
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>>161421776
In that case, just stick to 22.3% Droplets from Winter Lanterns in the DLC.
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>>161421760
Yes. I literally just beat the game for the first time earlier today
Probably misses a lot of stuff too.
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>>161421876
TOO LATE ITS SPELUNKING TIME WITH HMM
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>>161421595
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>>161421854
No.
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Getting dunked on by the Ihyll HBLB. I have 50 VIT and no excuse. This shit is depressing, man. I don't know how people effortlessly fight chalice bosses at BL4.
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>>161422572
They forsook humanity a long time go.
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>>161422572
Pizza Cutter, BB Pellets and Fire Paper destroys him. Bl4 is not much different, just gotta make less mistakes and use a Saw Cleaver/Spear instead.
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I just got the game in mail after buying the DLC two weeks ago when it was on sale.
So, how do i know right away that the DLC is working and installed?
Is it when you are given the Old Hunter Bell?
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>>161422958
I've been using the Beast Cutter because I like it. Though my problem isn't DPS so much as I can't evade him for shit. His hitboxes seem really wonky and inevitably I get backed up into a corner and the camera goes berserk.

I just beat him, but it was a hollow victory. I just flailed and panicked until he was dead. Meh. Time for a new character maybe?
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>>161423303
It's some sort of eye or so. You get it after defeating amelia.
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>>161421854
108's can't be invaded by 150's, but they can invade them.
98's can invade 120's but can't be invaded by them. But can't be invaded or invade 150's.

im half tempted to make a 148 50/50 saw spear shitter character to take to bbg fight clubs and allow myself to be invaded by 98s
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>>161423303
After returning to the hunters dream after beating Amelia, there'll be an item to pick up on the stairs. It's the Eye of a Blood Drunk Hunter.

You get that, you've got the DLC.
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>>161423312
Beast Cutter is pretty slow, the tricked r2s are good on him though. HBLB is pretty predictable so you could bait him to do certain attacks to punish him. He'll slam down if he's pushing on you, do the 2-swipe combo if you're mid-distance from him, etc. Can't remember the last time I've gotten hit by the delayed punch. A Call Beyond wrecks him for Arcane characters.
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>>161423564
>148 50/50 saw spear
Just do what i am and make that build at 117
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>>161423312
>>161423658
Fist of Gratia is great for staggering him. If you co-op with somebody using a good poisebreaking weapon like LHB or Stake Driver, it's possible to almost stunlock him. This even works on HBLB
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>>161423658
How's the cane against him? The whip gains a serrated modifier, right? Though I dunno if that compensates for its low damage overall.
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>>161424371
It's okay but there are better options. Still doable and yeah the tricked mode is serrated.
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>>161421595
If you liked that, read From Beyond by H.P. Lovecraft
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>>161422572
HBLB?
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>>161426030
Headless Bloodletting Beast
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Playing through the game my first time.

Living Failures took me 3 tries to kill the first time.
Lady Maria look 2

What the heck. I always thought Maria was super hard.

Ludwig took over 50
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>>161426891
>I always thought Maria was super hard.
You thought wrong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJojXZCAgME&index=30&list=PLiVSF2AAhkqdYrovYsDzpRYO2nP1LrNkO
>mfw those lyrics
Gehrman... Gehrman had a hard life.
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>>161427046
I love Maria's puffy vulva
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Is there a lore reason for the amygdala at the right of Grand Cathedral to have seven arms?
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>>161427116
>rectangular eyebrows
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>>161428359
>fist of the north star
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>>161428639
Is it good? I am short of animuus to watch or read
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>>161428784
No anime is good.
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>>161428876
this
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>>161427215
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>>161429678
I love fucking corpses!
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>>161429758
Who doesn't tbqh
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What's your main weapon, then what's your backup weapon, /bsg/?

Threaded Cane/BoM
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>>161431072
Chikage
Chikage
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>>161431072
>Main Weapon
Burial Blade
>Backup Weapon
Burial BChurch Pick
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>>161431072
>Only using two weapons
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>>161431072
Reiter and Burial Blade
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So do you guys think the parasite inhabiting bloodletting beast is a vermin ?
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>>161431243
>arcane beast cutter
Dude what
Fire Beast Cutter I can get behind because serrated+fire=dead beasts, but Arcane? What're the draws?
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>>161431404
I swap gems frequently. I was probably using it on HMPH when I made that webm.
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>>161431164
Disgusting.

>>161431072
Depends on the build. My arc build runs WHEEL and Moonlight Sword, my quality build runs Stake Driver and whatever else I want to be using at the time, I have like a million +10 weapons.
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>>161431516
The amount of korean gems you've farmed is genuinely impressive.
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>>161431319
Absolutely. The gutworms in Silverbeasts are vermin, too.
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>>161431603
>those gems
>korean

m8...
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>>161431603
Spear HMPH is piss easy. All those gems I got in something like four sessions.

People give Arcane a lot of grief as being hard to farm for, but I'm pretty sure it's actually the easiest. The single hardest gem to get was the Fire Abyssal, which I'm not even sure is in the webm lol.
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>>161431404
And actually, what? That Beast Cutter's Fire, m8. It even has the Fire Abyssal in it.
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I can't get shit for all these blood dregs after first, can I?
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>>161432289
The only thing you get past the first one is cucked.
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>>161431072
Burial Blade/Threaded Cane

Saw Spear/Rakuyo

Gonna farm on my second character to make it Saw Spear/Burial Blade.
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>>161432347
Uh, how?
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>>161432936
She doesn't give you shit, and will turn you down if you propose.
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It's that time again. Anyone up for an FRC delve? Your choice where we go, I'll post a glyph and pass if anyone's interested.
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Post rare Micolashes
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>>161431945
Arcane is the hardest to farm, though.

Strength, Skill, and Bloodtinge are fine just farming pwmf22gu and 5pwujscd. Getting a heavy or tempering abyssal is about as hard as getting any of the many abyssals that Arcane needs to farm. Arcane just doesn't have the easy fallback of getting 3x 27.2% gems, and even triangle elemental 27.2s are uncommon compared to tempering triangles.

Bloodtinge offshapes have earned a reputation for being hard to farm—and they are—but it's unfair to compare farming perfect offshape gems on one build to just getting "good enough" gems on another. Every Bloodtinge weapon in the game does fine with temperings, even on a pure Bloodtinge build. If you compare getting perfect offshapes on a Bloodtinge build to getting perfect offshapes on an Arcane build, you will find that Arcane has it worse. Arcane builds need to roll correct secondaries and the rep time for savescumming a boss is much higher than doing a shotgun watcher run in y592byza.
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>>161436196
I'm down for more spelunking. Let's go Isz this time.
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>>161436196
I'll join you
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>>161436739
>>161436897
Alrighty, Isz it is. Pass is bbgisz and the glyph is 2x3hptgp. See you guys there.
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>>161436739
>>161436897
I got Angus, are you ringing, anon? If you're trying to get in through SRRC, it'd be faster to just make the glyph and ring your small res there.
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>>161438080
Alright I'll do that, sorry for the wait.
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>>161429758
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So is Mergo a boy's name or a girl's name?
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WELP

Beckoning again. God I hate chalice witches.
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>>161438868
Alien's name
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>>161423728
>40 vit

kek
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>>161436196
LAYER ONE REPORT

Things of interest:
Pre-dungeon had probably a rune, I have all of them so it's just Great One's Wisdom on my end
Main dungeon had a candle circle leading to a Hemwick Witch fuckpit
No post-dungeon

Boss was Keeper of the Old Lords. Layer was meh.

NEXT
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>>161439459
We'll see if you're keking when it's done, friend.
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>>161438868
As long as there's a hole, there's a way.
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>>161440043
Mergo is formless so there's no hole
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>>161440151
Oh my god

Mergo's entire body is a hole
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>>161440217
I don't want to imagine what that would look like. A hunter humping at the air sure isn't a pretty sight.
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>>161440553
I mean, it wouldn't be any prettier if Mergo wasn't formless. I'd rather see a hunter fuck the sky than fuck a baby.
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>>161440151
Mergo is formless, existing only a sound, pretty much, all we hear is crying

Does that mean Formless Oedon is a baby, too?
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>>161440727
What about baby Great Hunter humping baby Formless Mergo?
All the while the Doll watches
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I hate this dungeon.
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>>161440910
I don't know, anon. The thought sorta makes me feel like some sort of cosmic pedophile.
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>>161440727
ITS AWWWWRIGHT!
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>>161441534
Do you want to fuck a baby Great One or not? Just because Mergo is formless and you can't see it's infinites holes, it doesn't stop being an infant.
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nightmare frontier was a mistake
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>>161442581
What are you doing to my newborn? Do me instead!
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>>161436196
>>161439682
LAYER TWO REPORT

Things of interest:
No pre-dungeon
Main dungeon sarcohpagus has another Great One's Wisdom behind a fuck of Hemwick Witches and a 2kat Undead Giant
No post-dungeon

Boss is cannon variant Undead Giant. This layer was only one bell maiden away from being designed by the devil himself.

THIRD LAYER
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That was fun Gregor and Angus, but I got to drop out so feel free to explore the rest of the dungeon without me.
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>>161442953
I'm gonna come out and say it - I'm a huge faggot and someone please explain what 2kat means.
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>>161443124
Old DeS meme. 2 katanas.
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>>161443124
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>>161443152
>>161443209
Cheers lads
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Is the online for this game dead or still ok? I don't have PS+ and I'd get it solely for doing invasions in Bloodborne (I have DS3 on PC). I could get my money's worth if it takes less than a minute or two per invasion.

On that note, what areas are fun to invade at?
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anyone wanna help me kill Laurence? pass is swooce
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r8 my last gascoigne fight bros

http://webm.land/w/SQKP/
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>>161444394
Random invasions aren't dead, but they'll take a bit to get depending on area. Mensis and NF are still fine to fight in. FC's happen weekly, on Saturday.

You'll be able to PvP fine.
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>>161444580
im ringing right outside the boss gate
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>>161436196
>>161439682
>>161442953
LAYER THREE REPORT

Things of interest:
Pre-dungeon had more Great One's Wisdom
Main dungeon was a shitshow of Hemwick Witches right off the bat. Sarcophagus had yet another Wisdom
No post-dungeon

Boss was Amygdala. Didn't get an abyssal, which is a shame, but it's not like I'm not already fully gemmed up on this build or anything.

No fourth layer, so that'll be all from me. Thanks for the spelunk, Angus, Shadrach. See you two some other time.
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>>161444963
I think there was a post dungeon actually.
Thanks for hosting
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>>161444580
pls
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>>161445165
Ringing at fog or lamp?
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>>161444580
why dont u just get a normal player from in game? why do you nerds do this?
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>>161445361
Shut up, faggot.
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>>161445165
I'm ringing before boss door
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>>161431072
>What's your main weapon, then what's your backup weapon, /bsg/?

Stake Driver / Whirligig, Powder Keg 4 lyfe
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>>161444616
PLS R8 MY FIGHT BR0S
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>>161445308
were you confederate man
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Anyone looking for a co-operator?
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>>161445953
if so ill be ringing again, i died
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>>161445953
Nah, did ya get him?
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>>161445953
That was me.

I can come again but I haven't even beaten Laurence by myself yet so I doubt I'm going to help much.
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>>161446209
fug man, wanna try again?
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>I fell for the "BB makes up in quality what it lacks in quantity for weapons types" meme
Of course you fuckers would lie, it's not like anyone can call you out on it without buying into the game.
Sure, 8/10 weapons are unique, but they are all locked behind half the fucking game and npc quest lines
Playing blind you're going to be stuck with the starter weapons for 60% of the game, and then by the time you find the other stuff you've already invested into your starting equipment and it's a pain to switch over.
That said I had fun doing suicide runs in TOH for the gigsaw and it was worth it
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>>161446484
i hate laurence
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y u no r8 my fight ;_;
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>>161446484
Sure. Where do you want me to ring?
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>>161446721
need reinforcements?
if so, what BL and location?
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>>161446824
stairs still
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>First time actually doing Chalice Dungeons
>Currently on Lower Phtumeru and Lower Hintertomb
>Get lots of blood echoes
>Level 50 and haven't even entered forbidden woods

Am I becoming too overleveled? I have 100k extra blood echoes from the Chalice Dungeons. Should I just keep levelling up or should I stock up on items?
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>>161446589
Oh dear, you never once checked the shop, did you?
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>Attains insight about Higher beings existing
>Is obsessed with a Squid Girl who happens to be already dead

Hmm... really makes you think
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>>161446872
>>161446824
nah, just beat him.

Thank you so much man, i cant get a hang of laurence, he is that one boss that always just fucks me sideways
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>>161447237
No prob
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Any cool guys wanna lower loran co-op abhorrent beast with me?
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>>161447406
Sure
Pass and BL?
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>>161447502
BL75
Pass is bbg
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>>161447010
>im-fucking-plying
90% of the time the shop doesn't even sell a weapon unless you already found one
makes zero fucking sense.
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Thanks Eddie. I'm rushing the root chalice so if you want to keep going I'll keep ringing the bell.
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>>161447730
Literally all of the badges unlock at least one weapon in the shop, what are you talking about?

>>161447406
>>161447681
>>161448424
Avatarfagging is against the rules.
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>>161448424
Sure
I know Darkbeast is going to be more of a pain so i'll switch to a sturdier character
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>>161448479
Sorry, not trying to avatarfag. I just think Robotnik is funny.
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>>161447730
>He never found ANY of the badges
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>>161448424
Ooh, Loran Darkbeast? There room for another?
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>>161448665
>>161448494
Sounds good. The more the merrier. I welcome ganking him down after doing the chalices twice over alone already.
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>bought Bloodborne card game
>requires 3-5 players
>don't even have friends
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Holy shit, I didn't even register you as a hostile! Good on you whoever just busted my crowfeather ass.
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>>161449026
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>>161447730
Holy Christ you're either trolling or actually that bad

Look up fucking badge location, my God, man
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>>161389053
>Get the game
>Happen upon the DLC first
>Find the boom hammer.
Did you know you can spam the two-handed trick heavy and knock her down with the explosion when you fight her the first time?
It was amazing.
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Hello fellow hunters! Would any of you perhaps be interested in some dungeon cooperation? It's a dungeon that's most likely far too easy for your caliber, yes but I'd appreciate to not go at it alone. (Pthumeru Root). All I ask is a small amount of your time to engage in cooperation.

The glyph is: cgbty8hn

Would any of you chaps perhaps be interested in spelunking?
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>>161449078
Such is life in cainhurst.
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>>161449313
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Boom Hammer build tips?
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>>161449371
>>161448665
>>161448494
That was a blast, guys!

Gregor I would summon your cleric ass a hundred times over even if it meant getting clocked with the wheel every time.
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>>161431072
Tonitrus with my tiny as backup for the mindgames.
Boomhammer.

I love that zappy mace shit, you do so much damage when you bear down on a nigger with it.
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>>161449905
Blunt gems.
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>>161449905
25/50 Str/Arc with Nourishings, 50/25 for 1 Heavy, Blunts, or Nourishings.
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>>161450060
50STR/25 ARC ?
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>>161450086
50 str.
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>>161446973
You are slightly overleveled, but likely massively over-geared. You've done what the Amelia guy and gone as far as possible without triggering nightfall.

It's possible for you to have two 20.3% gems and one 16.5% +14.9 slotted into your weapon. This is more than enough to carry you through the rest of game (highest gem in vanilla main game is 19%) and the DLC and even Ng+.
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>>161449915
It's always refreshing when I get summoned in as an Executioner. I'm never not happy to PURGE. Plus, I find Loran Darkbeast genuinely fun, so it's a win/win, really.

That said you're still disgusting Vileblood filth, purging you twice wasn't enough.
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>>161450301
What if I want to use the flamesprayer as well? Should I just go 40/40 ?
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>>161450753
>flamesprayer
Such an underrated weapon in a pinch.
>Cover a beast in oil
>Bone marrow.
Bone marrow on the Flamesprayer lasts as long as you hold the trigger, so a smart player can unload all your bullets
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>>161450327
Honestly that level 3 of lower Phtumeru dungeon was hard as fuck. I think I'll come back once I hit like level 60-70. I thought the game was made to do the Chalice Dungeons whenever they're available, but I guess that's not the case.
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>>161450753
40/40 is never good since you don't hit the hardcap for any of your stats.
Unlike Rosmarinus Flamesprayer has low scaling and high base damage, I wouldn't worry too much about arcane investment.
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>>161450519
yeah like whatever man
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>>161450891
Well yeah, 40 is nowhere near the hardcap of 99. Unless you're implying 50 is a hardcap, which is false.
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>>161451048
Sorry I meant the 50 softcap.
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>>161451048
I think people just like to say that since going over 50 is mostly impractical.
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>>161450519
Hmph, another bloodthirsty executioner.
Your cumbersome wheels and chips on your shoulders make you an easy target for the finest cainhurst has to offer.
Go back to your dying city, and leave us be.
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>>161451151
But it's factually incorrect to call 50 a hardcap, because you still see returns from levels above 50 until 99, the actual hardcap.
[autistic ranting intensifies]
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I'm lost in Old Yharnam, where am i supposed to go now?
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>>161451263
Old Yharnam is an optional area
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>>161451263
Keep going. Look around the church area for routes missed.
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>>161451263
The place where you got the ritual blood, go out and go right. There's some steps that descends down to the streets
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>Even the Warframe thread is faster than this
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>>161451583
>implying fast is good
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>>161451161
Yeah, CAINHURST!
Ah ah ah
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4-me8cu0dM dumb
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>>161449282
Bumping for this. On final layer
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>>161451583
At least you are not /aog/ my home thread. We slow as molasses.
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When?
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i'm about to farm heavy abyssals for like an hour or so

if anybody wants to join ill put on password bbg and ring
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>>161452590
PSX 2016
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>>161451161
>Vileblood calling an Executioner bloodthirsty

The irony is rich. Your band of cucks and fags up and kill innocent hunters because you think your queen might deign to look at you. It's pretty pathetic, honestly.
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>>161453001
And who's fault is that, hmm? Your kind raided and slaughtered an entire lineage, women and children, for nothing more than blood.

You call Vilebloods bloodthirsty when you're the ones who drove them to it. You attacked a dinner party, not an enemy camp: A family having supper.
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Are beast claws with beast rune any good in pvp?
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>>161453001
>>161453219
Hunters of Hunters > both of you honestly
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>>161453314
This.
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>>161453262
You're better off without the rune.
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>>161453001
Rich? You mean like the blood of our kind you slaughtered because you thought us different?
We all imbibe the blood, at least we have grace and civility about it.
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>>161453262
No, they still have a relatively short range like the vanilla claws (a bit longer though) and deal about the same damage, but they're significantly slower.
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>>161453314
What, all two of you? Back of lad, the real factions are having an argument.
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Hoy there lads! What say we set aside our differences and rededicate ourselves to cleaning our streets of the disgusting vermin that plague our old brothers' and sisters' minds?
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>>161453447
You're objectively lower on the food chain
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>>161453497
PvE covenants aren't real covenants.
>>
NEED HELP SUMMONS WITH MYARTYR LOGARIAS
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>>161453497
Your kind do fine on their own. If you need us, we show. As always. But the castle MUST be defended. We cannot allow the savages sully our queen yet further

>>161453523
There is no foodchain for me, just a desire to serve my liege.
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>>161453560
I'll come help but only if you spell his name right.
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>>161453219
Nice revisionist history there, friend. You talk like Vilebloods weren't killing innocents before they all got pulped. Those mullet-wearing katana fags have been out murdering the undeserved for far longer than you're saying they were.

>>161453497
I'm inclined to agree, but Vilebloods are basically vermin that talk, so I'll have to decline. You're doing good work though, always happy to see a confederate.

>>161453314
>>161453523
Surely you can see that they're just as drunk as any other blood-addled lunatic, yes? Besides, we're not killing hunters, we're just cleansing another bunch of beasts.
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First time running frc Ihyll and I just spent an hour getting trashed by some random Cainhurst hunter. Is this what it's supposed to be like? This isn't even fun anymore.
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>>161453772
Vermin?
What, prey tell, have i done to you?
I cleanse the streets of beasts, the same as you.
Unlike you, however, i have not given into blind hate.
Just stay away from castle cainhurst, and i don't have to shove my tonitrus up your arse for bugging milady.
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>>161453314
functionally one of the best runes
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>>161453772
You act as if you have the moral high ground, but let us not forget that all that's wrong and wretched in this city can be traced back to your church. The beast plague, the burning of Old Yharnam, the Ashen Blood, the beckoning of the blood moon. Thats all on your side of the crossing.

What's a spot of theft and murder to all of that? And need I remind you that the blood we stole, you had also swiped from the scholars.

Who are the more decrepit beasts? The nobles you hunt or the vicars you don't?
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>>161453497
>>161453772
>>161454103
>>161454125
The hunters must die. The nightmare must end
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>>161453772
Feast your eyes upon THIS, executioner.
This is what happened to your PRECIOUS LOGARIUS.
Become a monster for his cause...as will you.
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>>161452608
anybody?

i keep getting him down to like 20% hp and dying
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>>161454103
To me personally, nothing, I'm sure. But the threat you pose is more than enough incentive to ensure it never happens again. There's nothing blind about this, I assure you.

>>161454125
The upper echelons of the Church are crooked at best, yes, but to say the entire foundation is rotten to the core is simply untrue. Some of us truly do wish to do good, unlike your lot, slaughtering hunters unprovoked as you do. Surely you don't think to say you're doing anything less than evil.

>>161454604
He accepted a dreadful fate in hopes of ensuring not a single one of your disgusting brood would ever come to be again. It's unfortunate to say the least that he failed, but just as any lock, time will erode. If I could see every one of you put down, I'd do so, and take his place with the highest of honor. Or, perhaps, I'd send your dear queen to the Church, to see just what they'd do to her. To see her broken and hollow... The thought alone fills me with purpose.
>>
how bad is -63 weapon durability? like would I be able to last a boss fight without "weapon at risk"?
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>>161455338
Even on something like the Chikage, it'll be several attempts before you see the "At risk!" warning.
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>>161445361
not him but it feels good keeping the bbg community alive
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>>161455389
neat thanks
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>>161455241
>Unprovoked.
The price of trespassing on a farm is death no?
As is the violation of the sanctity of private property.
If you come to OUR land, and to the land of our queen UNINVITED and start causing trouble, we are well within our rights to kill you.
I understand the healing church is used to breaking the laws pf yharnam and other places, but lets not act ignorant of the laws.
Evil is only subjective. And in the eye of the beholder.
We view you as bastions of corruption and moral bankruptcy. You see us as monsters.
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>>161455495
Do be mindful though, because your weapon will degrade at bad times more regularly with Durability Down curses.
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>>161455906
I mostly just do coop and PvP anyways, so I'll have frequent opportunity to repair at the dream
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>>161455580
Oh, you thought I meant us Executioners? Heavens no, I meant the average hunters your kind sought out to butcher for another offering to that wretched whore you call a queen. They were doing good and proper work, helping to keep the scourge in check as much as they could, and here comes your bunch, slaying them because that masked creature told you to.
>>
>when a quality build with light bloodtinge and arcane investment means you can wield everything the game has to offer

I just realized this. Damn..
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>>161455389
are you sure? I had a -22 once and had to repair my saw spear every 3-4 boss fights from it hitting at risk.
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>>161456013
>Average hunters
If they do the work of the healing church, they are no better than you, keeping this bloody cycle going. And i ONLY kill members of the church.
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>>161456131
Fairly sure. Once every 3-4 boss kills my Chikage would have to be repaired before I replaced it with a gem that didn't have durability down.
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>>161456013
>>161456142
The beasts cannot be stopped. What good are hunters now?
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>>161456308
Hoonters are good for hoonting.
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>>161456308
To keep you ungrateful lot as safe as possible, until the end.
No go back to your home and lock the door. The night will be over soon.
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>>161456142
Lie to yourself all you like, I see you for the murderers you are. Not every hunter works for the Church. There are those that hunt because they know that doing away with beasts helps keep safe those who would otherwise be defenseless. You say you're innocent, and yet you're committing murder on the undeserving. Simply pathetic.
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>>161456481
And cainhurst CHILDREN were deserving?
You monsters murdered those who could not even FIGHT BACK.
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>>161456432
Death to hunters. Enough of this terrible dream
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>>161456565
Vilebloods are Vilebloods. As I've said, the potential threat is too great. If even one would have been left, it would all lead back to what got you in this mess in the first place. Had your kind not gone and killed innocents, we wouldn't have had to do a thing. It's your fault it ended up this way, not ours.
>>
When do YOU lads do Chalice Dungeons? Do you only do the required ones, or do you do them for gems?
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>>161456937
I do them for fun
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>>161457015
Same here.
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>>161456876
Who the fuck let logarius read the Prince?
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>>161457015
Degenerate.
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>die during the gauntlet in ailing loran's floor 2 pre-boss bonus room
>now have to deal with red spiders everywhere
fuck
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>>161458578
>He opened The Door

It's not like there's anything of value in there anyway.

Aren't chalice dungeons fun?
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How the fuck are you supposed to fight these npc hunters? They always are able to tear you a new one but your hits bounce right off them.

Especially Djura's butt buddy. Fuck him. I don't like using his agro exploit but he's too strong otherwise.
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Where is the best place to farm Echoes? I was too efficient in my most recent play through and accidentally ended up under leveled.
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>>161459615
>too efficient
what
There's no such thing as too efficient.
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>>161431072
runnin a beast cutter and amy arm right now
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>>161456308
Being a hunter is just a convenience while I collect both blood and eyes.
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>executioners
>vilebloods
>hunters of hunters
>even fucking confederates


Blood is shit, eyes a best.
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>>161460550
Say that to my REEEE faggot, see what happens.
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>>161460647
Dogs can't compete with divine cauliflower posing.
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>>161460768
While you're busy touching yourself, I'll be setting up for that sick jumping backstab. Your piddly arc damage can't even begin to compete with the power of beasthood viscerals.
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>>161460860
I think cauliflower also gets jumping backstabs, but I might be wrong.
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Should I fight Paarl early?
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How do I politely tell my friend he's awful at Bloodborne if he's dying to the Hemlock Witch(es)?
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>>161461601
>get him away from the game
>inspect his eyes
>give him a pat on the back

>grant him reassuring words
>understand he might be a bit slow
>deepen the wounds by reading every first letter of every line
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>>161461914
>gig gud
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>>161461914
Gud job.
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>>161461914
your meme is so shit I'm experiencing second hand embarassment
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I don't like how fast the tricked quickstep R1 is on the Bloodletter. Feels wrong. I had the same issues with the Pizza Cutter, too.
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Best way to farm echoes after defeating Gascan but before Amelia?
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>>161463090
Selling the doll set or going through the pthumeru chalices.
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>>161463090
selling the doll set my Completionist autism prevents me from doing this

doing some early chalice dungeons wearing the Moon Rune found in Yharhagul. Basic zombies in Depth 3 give 700+, fatties guarding levers drop 1000s.

Or if you don't want to do chalice dungeons, just kill Henryk and get the Hier rune, and backstab the pigs in Yharhagul. Also kill the bagmen if you are up to it.
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>>161463192
>>161463949
How/Where do I go about finding the chalices? I haven't played in ages so I'm feeling pretty lost right now.
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>>161464020
Blood starved beast gives the pthumeru chalice.
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>>161464020
Blood Starved Beast gave you one.

In hunters dream go up to any of the gravestones along the slope along the left (EG not the ones you usually use) and create the first chalice dungeon.

From then on its a spelunking you will go. Echo's arnt fantastic in the early ones, but they give out gems at a hilariously imbalanced rate compared to the main game. Old Yharnam gives 1-2% gems, while Depth 1 Pthumeru (same difficulty) gives 10% or higher. And it just gets more silly from there.
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>>161462174
>Not Gug job
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>>161464481
>>161464589
Alright, thanks. I'll put them to good use once I get there then.
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Ahh kos(kosm)
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>>161465730
Should be the sharkfu enemy
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ww1 themed soulslike when
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Is 27.2% physical as high as it gets? And am I right to assume that on weapons that have pretty much exclusively thrust or blunt damage I should be using the appropriate gems instead of regular physical stuff?
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>>161466423
yes and yes. a lot of weapons only have a certain type of damage in one its forms, either tricked or untricked. For example the church pick is exclusively thrust except for a few attacks in its moveset.
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>>161466423
Correct on both counts, yes.
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Has there been a patch I missed since I last played back in August or something? I've been hearing the Yharnamites using some voice lines I've never heard before, like when one attacked me he said "Disgusting!". Also when I get SRRC'd into a coop dungeon it makes a completely different sound for some reason, more like the invasion fade sound than the usual coop fade sound. Anyone else had this happen to them? Is this what happens when you get to 99 Insight IRL?
Also, this isn't new, but when I go near the Doll sometimes it comes up with blank dialogue subtitles. It doesn't really affect the game, but it's a bit of a nuisance having to cancel it to talk to her or buy some shit. Has anyone else experienced this?
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>>161466559
>when I go near the Doll sometimes it comes up with blank dialogue subtitles. It doesn't really affect the game, but it's a bit of a nuisance having to cancel it to talk to her or buy some shit. Has anyone else experienced this?
Sounds like you've been interrupting the doll's sleep. You heartless bastard.
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>>161466559
>Also, this isn't new, but when I go near the Doll sometimes it comes up with blank dialogue subtitles. It doesn't really affect the game, but it's a bit of a nuisance having to cancel it to talk to her or buy some shit. Has anyone else experienced this?

I think they just do that to let you know when she's sleeping, so you know not to disturb your waifu.
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>>161466517
>>161466528
Aight, thanks. There aren't any gems to increase slash damage specifically, right? So if I use the Saw Cleaver I should use regular physical gems?

>>161461601
I unironically think Witches are harder than BSB, Gascoigne and maybe even the Wet Nurse
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>>161466652
>>161466656
Yes yes, I know about that, but this is different. She's awake and has the usual dialogue, "Welcome home good hunter" etc. Shit's weird. I assumed it was Gehrman, but he's disappeared so it can't be him either.
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Managed to clip my camera inside of the Mother Brain.
It actually does have eyes on the inside, holy shit.
I've always wondered. What do you guys think the abyss where it falls down to actually is?
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>>161466752
When she's sleeping and you don't go near her to trigger the blank dialogue, reload the Dream and go near her, the game thinks she's still sleeping but the usual "I must have drifted off" will not trigger since she will be standing up.
Basically, you're ignoring her, you bastard
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>>161466723
Saw spear is thrust I think. Hence there is no stat for blunt danage.
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>>161467127
Saw Spear deals thrust damage on the R2, the rest is just normal with a Serrated modifier.
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>>161467235
More specifically, it deals thrust damage on the tricked R2. My apologies.
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>>161466723
For the Cleaver yes. As far as physical damage goes, only blunt and thrust go up to 32%.
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I like the idea of making a character themed around the Powder Kegs, just using crazy weapons and blowing shit up. I've already planned out my build (50 Str Boom Hammer and Steak Dinner with Heavy Abyssals, offhand Minigun and Cannon, 25 Arc for extra damage from Hammer L2 and Molotovs), but what sort of clothes should I wear? I want to make my dude look all grubby and cobbled together, like something out of Mad Max. What should I wear to get this look?
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>>161467439
Old Hunter and Charred Hunter sets are probably good for the look you're going for. Almost all of the other sets of attire are very clean in terms of appearance.
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Who else killed Eileen after the last encounter, killing the parrymaster vileblood?
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Is 40/40 Skl/Blt the preferred for Simon's?
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oooooooooooooooAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA KOS
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>>161468093
Kosm
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>>161468169
>there are kosm fags in this thread RIGHT NOW
get out
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>>161467986
> 40/40

Why are people so fixated on that number? 50 is the mathematical sensible place to stop in Bloodborne, and if that's too many points there are a lot of other places to stop. Is it just people stuck in their ways from DaS and refusing to question why 40/40 is the stopping point?

That being said, a SKL/BLT build using the bow blade is one of two weapons that 40/40 isn't gimping yourself because it's scalings are identical in both forms. So if you truly value both modes equally and are willing to invest a total of 80 points into SKL/BLT, then yes it's optimal.

But remember that 50/30 (with 50 being the favoured stat) is better almost all of the time. The only exception is Ludwigs where 50/30, 30/50 and 40/40 all give the same damage.
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Is everyone is tge fc's bl98 or does it stop at 120?
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>>161468523
50/50 seemed like 20 extra lvls I didn't need, and since the Bow Blade has S/S Scaling, I thought 40/40 wouldn't have be terrible. I'm not stuck on 40/40, it just seems like the best route.
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>>161468249
Shut the fuck up kos fag.
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>>161454103
>>161453772
>>161453001
>>161451161
>>161454604
>>161455580
>>161456481
All 'a you lyin' ninnys 'aven't got a leg to stand on! Stay away from my castle, the lot of ya!
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>>161440151
Mergo is the Tonsil Stone you baka.
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>>161468993
50/30 might be worthwhile just because you're going to be slashing more than shooting most of the time.
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>>161460926
Broccolis have explosive tentacle rape.
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>>161452131
Many such cases!
Sad!
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Reminder that Vilebloods, Executioners, Confederates, and Hunters of Hunters are nothing but beastly idiots.

You all should be dedicated to the search for eyes. Are your feet as fat as your wits? Take the plunge! Throw yourself to the wolves.
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>>161467023
huh thats fucking cool.

And I think its just the end of that reality where micolash stopped thining about how he wanted it to be.
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I want your best theories as to why mother kos has a human face and arms.

Its clear thats not part of her original morphology and is likely there due to pertubations from the nightmare, but why would orphan kos imprint that onto his mother?

My best theory is that he imprinted marias face onto her because shes the only one showing regret for what happened and is the host of the nightmare, but that seems tenuous.
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>>161474027
>Vilebloods
Raging homosexual cuckolds. True beta
>Executioners
Mentally unstable, genuine idiots who don't understand that wheels belong on wagons
>Confederates
Circlejerk bug exterminators
>Hunters of Hunters
Will stab you if they so much as sniff a drop of blood on you. Edgy sometimes
>Lumenwoods
Ayylmao memers second only to Micolash himself
>Beastmen
Furries

Is this correct?
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>>161474907
This is correct. Thank you for recognizing me as supreme meme.
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>>161468943
It stops at 544
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I want to use Reiter as the main and I plan on using both forms. Should I go for 50/50 Skl/Blt or not?
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>>161474907
I like the theory that Executioners summon their tard rage to wield and use their wagon wheels. Executioners are the church's "special" hunters
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>>161475425
Do it.

You can also use the Bowblade with that build.
Rifle spear sucks since it's actually a shotgun.
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>>161474372
>Its clear thats not part of her original morphology
How is it clear?

>>161466559
>Has there been a patch I missed since I last played back in August or something?
I took a break too and the only difference I noticed is that every depth 5 FRC has a dozen goddamn fucking Hemwick witches in it now.
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>>161476692
I say its clear because of the orphans physical traits. We can safely assume the orphan of kos is not a human that looks nearly identical to gehrman, and no great one had such human features.

If the orphan had such deformed features, likely due to the fact that he projected gehrman into it, I dont think its too much of a stretch to imagine the same thing happened with Kos
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>>161476692
That's always been every dungeon for me. Now you feel my pain.
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>>161476941
>FRC Ihyll
Hemwick Witches everywhere
>FRC Loran
Bone Ash Saw Spear hunters at every corner (found four in a single layer yesterday)
>FRC Isz
Cainhurst hunters at every corner

Those are, without fail, every FRC I make. I get to pick my poison.
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>>161476924
>We can safely assume the orphan of kos is not a human that looks nearly identical to gehrman, and no great one had such human features.
Kosm has human features, this explanation is simplier and more logical than assuming something that has not been stated in any ingame text. If Oedon can impregnate human women, Kos can have a human face. Deal with it.
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>>161477164
>If Oedon can impregnate human women

Which has no human features
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>>161477238
>Women don't have human features
Anon, I think you should go out more...
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>>161477315
I mean the baby you nerd

And do you really think the orphan looked exactly liked gehrman? And cries identically to gehrman?

Come on son you're missing the bigger picture
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>>161476924
I still don't know what to make of the Orphan's physical appearance. Maybe Great Ones can physically change to adapt to their surroundings and it had to become a humanoid hunter to fend off the humanoid hunters trying to kill it, maybe Gehrman imprinted on it because Gehrman is the first thing it saw after they cut it out of Kos, maybe the real Orphan looked nothing like the one we fight and it's just the nightmare having a sense of irony by shaping him into a hunter for us to fight.

The only thing we know for sure about Kos is that she was dead when she washed up on the coast, so it makes sense to assume the humanoid face and arms were always there. Or it's just the nightmare fucking with us.

>>161476941
My first 20 or so hours of spelunking I never saw one, only the Yahargul kind that try to scoop out your eyes with a crow's beak. Now they're on every floor of everyone dungeon and I have to resort to Bowblade cheese.
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>>161398294
>>161397961
Wat?
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>>161477389
I honestly don't know what Gehrman has to do with the Fishy Ham. It feels like some major piece of the story is missing but if we are going to just headcanon our theories into the game it's better if we stop discussing lore.
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>>161477620
We are born of the lore, made meme by the lore, undone by the lore. Our eyes are yet to open... Fear the old lore. By the gods, fear it, Anon.
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>>161477675
>I honestly don't know what Gehrman has to do with the Fishy Ham
In the DLC trailer you see Gehrman walking into the Hamlet. It's definitely Gehrman and not just a player wearing his clothes and wielding his weapon, it has the peg leg and everything.

Between that, the fish man cursing Byrgenwerth, the fact that Maria was Gehrman's apprentice and threw Rakuyo down the well in the Hamlet, it's strongly implied that Gehrman led the massacre in the Hamlet on behalf of the Byrgenwerth boys when they heard that a dead Great One had washed up on the beach.
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>>161477549
I like the idea that when gehrman falls asleep in the dream, he awakes in the nightmare and has to re experience the traumatic birth of the orpham.

Every other hunter in the old nightmare is experiencing their worst mistakes in nightmare form.

>Laurence is burning forever for burning old yharnam
>Ludwig was transformed into the most deformed beast we've seen since he was dedicated to hunting them down
>Maria is forced to use blood magic to try and protect the secret shes so ashamed of
>Gehrman is forced to experience the horror of what he did to the orphan every time he falls asleep

Not to mention when you do kill the orphan, the doll mentions she has never seen Gehrman sleep so peacefully. I think we can assume that gehrman is bound both to the nightmare and the dream.

Also the cry at the start of the fight is the exact same cry as the one gehrman does while he sleeps.

Given how fucked the orphans physical manifestation is in the dream, I dont think its a stretch at all to assume that Kos herself got fucked with.

Not to mention just basic physiology, paleblood great ones are associated with invertabrates and deep sea animals. makes no sense to have human arms and face. It makes sense the orphan inadvertently changed how Kos looked as well, considering he probably never got a good look at her.

>>161477675
I think we got a pretty good idea, the pieces fit together pretty nicely imo
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>>161474907
Eileen a best, fuck you ;-;
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>>161477930
what did Gehrman do to orphan?
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>>161478223
Given the connections that all the other hunters have to their nightmare form, I assume it was gehrman who ripped the orphan prematurely from Kos's dead/ dying corpse.

Which is why when you first seem him you see a not so natural birth, looks up, realizes hes still trapped in this nightmare and starts crying.
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Someone come spoil my fun. I'm ringing my sinister bell while clearing Old Yharnam.
I'm level 150.
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>>161477930
Other Great Ones have have human features too, like Rom's and Big Brain's eyes, Amy's arms, Moon Presence has a beast like appearance and Ebrietas looks like a bigger version of Arianna's baby. Hell, maybe Kos was a human who ascended too.
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>>161428784
if you want to watch post apocolyptic bruce lee using kung fu to make people explode, yeah.
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>>161479013
I think a large part of the games lore comes down to signifigance of physiology in the great ones.

Rom is an ascended human using primarily paleblood, and done by ebrietas help. this also explains why Ebrietas mourns rom, ebrietas feels bad for what she did to rom. Rom is vacuouss, i.e. braindead. Yes rom ascended but the process made her brain dead.

Big brain has a lot of similarities to Rom, only instead of paleblood it can insinuated that the moon presence helped due to mensis's connection with the moon presence. I think the brain is literally the brain of mensis. In the room with micloash's real body there are tons of other bodies there with the cages. I think it took all of them to create the nightmare and beckon mensis. Only micolash survived this procedure, possibly because he held the third umbilical cord. The rest became the brain as we see in game, and like Rom, because brain dead or "terribly rotten" as the living string says.

Amy is an odd one, possibly a form that mixed with both paleblood and red blood at some point as it shares physical traits with both the moon presence and ebrietas. It also literally has red blood and paleblood.

Basically I think there are two lineages of great ones, red blood ( moon presence) and paleblood (ebrietas, kos).

The only thing in game that kinda fucks this pertty hard is that ariannas baby is a paleblood that as you said, greatly resembles ebrietas.

I like the idea of this a lot, but I'll have to play the game a few more times to see how I feel about it.

Another thing thats really interesting to note is that palebloods use "the power of the cosmos", as in they call on the cosmos for power.

They have those attacks where they often look up, you see stars and some cosmic attack happens. Celestial emmisary, ebrietas, and even amys do this. The item description for a call beyond describes this kind of attack as a failure to communicate with the cosmos.
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Will I be able to farm gems in the chalice dungeons after I've completed the great pthumeru ihyll chalice? I've also made a Izs root chalice once.
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>>161479678
On top of that kos and ebrietas are associated with the deep sea, which is described as"Great volumes of water serve as a bulwark
guarding sleep", possibly meaning that water protected the paleblood great ones from the red blooded great ones, I.e. moon presence.

Also the moon presence does not use "cosmic" attacks. he may not have to call on the cosmos, because he is literally a part of it unlike the palebloods.

But thats just my current ideas, i could be completely wrong desu
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>>161479682
All you need is to create one Depth 5 FRC root dungeon and have the required root chalices the glyphs you're planning to farm are from. If it's for Physical gems, you'll need Ihyll for Watcher Radials. Isz for Triangles.
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>>161480019
So I just need to get the root chalice from the layer 2 boss in the great pthumeru ihyll?
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>>161480331
Yes for Ihyll glyphs.
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>>161479678
>Rom is an ascended human using primarily paleblood, and done by ebrietas help. this also explains why Ebrietas mourns rom, ebrietas feels bad for what she did to rom. Rom is vacuouss, i.e. braindead. Yes rom ascended but the process made her brain dead.
Kos gave eyes to Rom, all we know about the relationship between Ebrietas and Rom is that she has a carcass of a spider that looks like Rom.

>The only thing in game that kinda fucks this pertty hard is that ariannas baby is a paleblood that as you said, greatly resembles ebrietas.
If we go by what you're saying, Ebrietas is also a mix of blood, she bleeds red and gray.

Other than that I agree with you.
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>>161480517
>Kos gave eyes to Rom, all we know about the relationship between Ebrietas and Rom is that she has a carcass of a spider that looks like Rom.

Right I somehow forgot about micolash's line. I still wanna say ebrietas somehow helped with Rom, but it is tenuous.

>, Ebrietas is also a mix of blood, she bleeds red and gray.
I've seen people say this but I cannot get her to bleed red blood, where do you have to hit? her back and head both bleed pale-blood.
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What's the lowest level a BL240 can invade/co-op?
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>>161481617
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/
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Think I've mastered that Descendant now. WHERES YOUR HMPH NOW?
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>>161481713
Ahh thank you gentle anon
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>Chalice dungeons
The idea is good but the implementation is pure shit
Grind so you can grind bullshit. Good thing they are entirely option. Unfortunately weapons with different slots are locked behind them.
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>>161479678
Paleblood is the moon, not actual blood.
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>>161482167
You mean you don't just create root chalices just to explore and find weird shit?
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>>161482167
>The idea is good but the implementation is pure shit
Nah it's only half shit. They got it mostly right. Which is why they should've been carried forward in DaS3, rather than dropped. I actually wouldn't be mad if the 2nd DLC for DaS3 was just improved chalice dungeons.
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>>161482714
>I actually wouldn't be mad if the 2nd DLC for DaS3 was just improved chalice dungeons.
Same. I would also love the shitstorm it would cause.
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>>161482714
>improved chalices in a wholly inferior game
Gives me conniptions
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>>161482167
I only dislike some chalice dungeons simply because you're seeing the same areas repeatedly, but then mixed around. It feels like you're grinding the same area over and over again, a change of texture or even lightning would've been nice.
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>Poking around r/Bloodborne sometimes to see if there's interesting lore finds
>Discover a thread where some literal retard thinks the Oedon Chapel Dweller impregnated Arianna with Oedon's voice by talking to her
>275 Upvotes and the entire discussion thread is in agreement

HOLY FUCKING FUCK. ENTRY LEVEL LOREFAGS NEED TO FUCKING KILL THEMSELVES
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>>161483561
>Oedon exists as a sound
>Oedon chapel dweller looks inhuman, possibly Pthumerian
>impregnation via sound from the Oedon Chapel Dweller

I'm just sayin anon
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>>161483673
You're just saying you're as stupid as they are? Even if the dweller is full-blooded Pthumerian, the theory is FULL retard.
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>>161483783
>beat the game with my brother
>look up some lore theories
>of course reddit comes up
>GEHRMAN WAS SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED AND HAD SEX WITH KOS
>nine billion upvotes and everyone agrees

I swear if you write a long post people agree despite how retarded they are
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>>161483904
It's sickening. No wonder it's impossible to discuss BB lore.
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>>161483783
>>161483904
>>161483963
Ya'll niggas need to chill out, all lore theories are retarded
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>>161484186
no fuck you
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>>161484186
>I don't know how Fromsoft lorefagging works
That's okay. You don't have to participate.

It's very simple. You have to actually provide evidence. If he wants to claim the Dweller is responsible for knocking up Arianna with Oedon's baby by talking to her, you had better be able to PROVE it. With evidence.

It doesn't even have to be item descriptions of NPC dialogue, it can be circumstantial/environmental/visual. But you need actual proof.
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>>161484358
>discussing lore
>people just say shit that isnt backed up at all in the game

It's enough to make a man sick
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NEW THREADDE

>>161484626
>>161484626
>>161484626
>>161484626
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>>161479815
>MP
>He

Dude, the only male Great One is Oedon. Everyone else is his bitches.
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>>161484358
The evidence is that the chapel dweller gets new dialogue for every character you send to the chapel. He specifically mentions that Arianna talks to him, and that the others won't.

Personally I don't buy it, I think the reason Arianna is impregnated is simply because she's a Cainhurst descendant (i.e. a distant Pthumerian descendant) and has compatible blood. The old woman is likely in menopause and Adella (despite being groomed as a blood saint) has pleb-tier blood that Oedon won't touch.
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>>161484960
So Adella is actually a nigger?

Does that mean she's Loran?
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>>161484960
>The evidence is that the chapel dweller gets new dialogue for every character you send to the chapel. He specifically mentions that Arianna talks to him, and that the others won't.
That's not evidence that supports his theory. All that confirms is that she talks to him.

In order for his theory to be supported, there would have to be a precedent or other example of Oedon speaking THROUGH somebody to achieve an effect.

> I think the reason Arianna is impregnated
Because that's the real reason. We even have item descriptions that confirm it. Oedon was attracted to her specific bloodline.
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>>161455241
>>161454125

>Not recognizing that what the church did were necessary evils and that sacrifices must be made on the path to greatness and for the greater good of delivering us from the nightmare.

A terrible shame. It makes my head shudder uncontrollably. You lack the insight to see visions of greatness, you are nothing more than brutish beasts. What you call "corrupt" or "mad" has to be seen as the failings of tragic heroes.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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