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Preorder the new expansion for only $50, she needs the money to eat and do other mundane things.

>New Expansion cards
http://www.hearthpwn.com/guides/1840-mean-streets-of-gadgetzan-hearthstones-fourth

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/pottisdefenseforce

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

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Xth for never drawing dragons
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>>161340751
>Preorder the new expansion for only $50
Why would you preorder 50 packs for $50 when you can get 40 packs for $25 from Amazon?

DONT FALL FOR THE PREORDER MEME, there is no cardback
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Yeah, because using the new rogue rager as op pic wouldn't be more suited or anything
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CAN YOU EXECUTE FACE NOW?

SOMEONE PLEASE RESPOND

CAN YOU EXECUTE FACE WITH MAYOR NIGGER NOW?
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Non-pre-order players right now:
>Willl ge completly shafted by the awful pulls from their very few packs grinded for months (LOL), MAYBE get a legendary (warlock legendary every time)
>Cant make a proper Jace deck, or 10/10 Shaman deck, or Rats Hunter deck, or Buff Paladin deck.... or any kind of deck right now because of the lack of gold and dust
>They will be unable to even complete quest that requires win games on Standard because of the overpowered preorder decks that will dominate the ladder even on rank 20
>Will continue to play their same tier 3 outdated decks for months

Pre-order players:
>Will have every single common/rare/epic and every lego up release, multiple copies even
>Several golden cards
>Got countless options for building all the new meta decks right off the bat and can have fun also making fun rewarding decks like Jade Druid and Wallet Priest
>Dominate the ladder easly to rank 5 and beyond all the way legend, gets free wins all the time from the weak free2pay players
>Will love the expansion as their experience will be vastly different because they aren't poorfags stuck with meme cheap decks like zoo

Will you have fun being raped again and again and never getting those wins for that quest anon?
Why you even play this game if you're a poorfag?
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Hey guys, check out the new card they announced for Rogue! The synergy will just be amazing!
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>>161340929
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>>161340924
You should be able to.
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>>161340924
execute only targets minions

randomly targeted spells only choose from legal targets
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>Bladeflurry died for this

I really miss oil rogue, it was so much more fun than miracle
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>>161340973
Kek'd
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>>161340883
Please explain this: I already did the Amazon+Android coin deal in early 2016.
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W R A N D U I N
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>>161340929
2 armor and one (you) has been deposited to your account
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Is this the worst set ever?

>Maybe 20 cards are playable
>Many cards completely BTFO entire deck types(Jade Idol, Devolve)
>The good cards for the set are often blatantly obvious value cards like Wrathion, Kabal Dark Cultist, Dragonfire, Rat Pack, Abyssal Enforcer that don't even create new deck types
>The one new decktype that looks playable is either OP as balls or complete shit(jade golems)
>Almost 90% of all the cards that aren't metaworthy are literal trash like stealth rager, Hired Gun, Grook Fu, etc
>Noggenfoggen for no reason

It probably even tops One Night in Development.
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>>161340973

Fuck, I can't take Rogue memes, its just too funny because of Team 5's incompetence
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>>161340929
>paying real money so you can have more unplayable legendarys
There's only a handful of relevant cards.
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does anyone have a big collage of all the msog cards?

it's time for /hsg/'s predictions
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>>161340973
my sides
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>>161341016
Sauce please?
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How hard will you ship anduin and wrathion?
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>New Shaman card that turns into a random six drop once it hits face
>Add a bunch of new utterly worthless six drops like Bomb Squad and the 1/1 that summons an ogre

Surely this is the card that will steer everyone away from midrange shaman
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>>161341197
i wont ship it, i'll ferry it ;)
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>>161340929
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Do you think this will be used? Would be sick with maly but if you let a maly live against rogue you are pretty much dead anyway...
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>Craft two legendary daggers for you at WoW
>Crafting quest only available to rogues
>It's not the fucking rogue legendary from this expansion
>Rogues got 0 good weapons since Blade Flurry nerf
>Instead we get some shitty OC do-not-stealâ„¢ meme understated legendary
>He doesn't even have the fucking Dragon tag
>Dragon rogue will never be a thing
FIRE TEAM 5 ALREADY, JESUS CHRIST
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>>161341268
I just really like it for some reason
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>>161340997
>>161341013


WHICH ONE
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Don't fall for the Blizmeme. Play Shadow verse!
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Thank god i switched to Shadowverse
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>>161340973
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>>161341016
Should Jade Rogue run Lotus Agents?
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>>161341341
think back to prenerf yogg

did flame lance ever do anything if the board was empty?

theres your answer
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>>161341268
if it shoots 8 missiles that do 3 damage it would be cool, but blizzard has no consistancy so it will probably be shit and only do 8 damage per missile
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>>161341268
could be pretty mean with inkmaster

honestly it's not a good card, i can't think of a situation where you wouldn't prefer either fireballs, pyro or flamestrike but i like it
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Remember how long the LoE meta was? Now consider that LoE was actually a good expansion whereas this one is trash, and consider just how bad the meta is going to be until the next expansion, which will be a very long time from now.
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>Shaman is completely dominating the meta
>it even opresses zoolock which floods the board with sticky minions
>team 5 literally think a 1hp stealth is going to survive a turn
>if it survives and gets buffed to 3hp it dies to ~literally~ everything

Druid, Warrior and Hunter seem cool though.
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>>161340929
but i'm f2p and I have 5k gold anon
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>>161341345
you could talk about why the game is better instead of spamming shitty art
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>>161341197
It's OTP, Anon. Even Blizzard employees ship them.

But for real, you guys don't know how happy this makes me.
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>>161341341
I believe you can because Mogor can make Icehowl go face, so random targeting can break the card rules.
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>post yfw reprinting worst card for worst class
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Do you miss me yet?
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>>161341069
TGT had like, 5 cards playable? 8 maybe? Sure, when the meta changed it was always different 5-8 cards, but I doubt it was much more than that at any given time.
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>>161341345
Do they pay you or do you do it for free?
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>ONE MANA 30/30
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>>161341484

No, because Druid has been dominant in almost all metas, and its going to be dominant yet again
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>>161341268

brutal finisher in tempo mage.

when your opponents board is clear doing 9 damage to face for only 7 mana is pretty much a discount pyroblast.
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>>161341536
>only happens way past the point when a stat stick would be useful

remember, the opponent left Brann up for 2 turns, played an incredibly shitty deck, and wasted his Pyromancer
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>>161341396
>>161341474


OMG

MY BRAIN IS FRYING RIGHT NOW
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Shadowverse is infinitely better than this turd
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>>161340837
Yth for drawing ALL the dragons
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GIVE ME THE POLL LINK
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>>161340835
i got a good laugh from this friend so here's a (you)
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>>161341718
>>>/pol/
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>>161341474
not targeting heroes isnt a rule of icehowl, its a card effect that can be silenced that is admittedly worded poorly. It would make more sense to say that "can not be be instructed to attack heroes"

In the case of execute it outright cannot target heroes under any circumstances. If noggenfogger execute worked on heroes then there is no reason that yogg's executes shouldnt be able to target heroes and they cant so you will almost certainly not be able to with noggenfogger
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Remember me?
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>there are actual real people in this thread who give the creators of shadow rager money
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>>161341404
>>161341268
Spell power is gonna increase the dmg of each missile. Thats why the 3 in missles is a written word and the other one is a number.
Mite b cool after a doomsayer turn or with inkmaster and malygos like the other anon said
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>>161341268
>against rogue
>burgle memes
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>>161341404
How is that inconsistent. The card text on that is clear enough to see it's 8 damage three times (do *x* damage three times at random targets). Where as arcane missiles is do *x* damage split at random targets.
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>>161341749
Holy shit anon BTFO!!!!
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>>161341821
>There are people who pre ordered this shit
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>>161340929
>not being able to reach legend with tier 3 deck
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>>161340929
I only need jade idol for the golem madness
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>>161341792
That makes sense, also it most likely won't, it would be ridiculous if it could.
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>>161341948
>pre ordering digital content
>pre ordering content before seeing all of it
silly goys
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>>161341816
No one remembers him because no one ever played him

Is there any class with so many shitty minions as rogue?
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Lifecoach doing review of all the cards
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>>161342082
He is good on Arena draft.
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Did they make good use of the new master of disguise design space?
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>>161341821
>will just spend gold on packs
>even after crafting all the usable legendarys and epics I'll still have 10k+ dust left for the next expansion
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>>161342082
Warlock, but it makes up for it with the strongest hero power.
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>>161341816

Yes, I opened 6 of you

>>161341821

The fact people give Team 5 money is beyond me

>I work, so I can spend money

Just because I have money doesn't mean I shuffle it between my shit at the toilet
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>>161341948
>There are rogue mains who preordered
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>>161341706
>It's just a catgirl with two puppets
>Cerberus
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>I'm the only one who thinks kun is shit
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>>161342202
The puppets are alive and can generate shadows all on their own, so don't talk crap about Cerberus.
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>>161342187
Im just glas I didnt

Gonna sit this out for the next year, save coins, and just do retarded quests like play 15 murlocs in casual mode
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>>161342135
>not good
>not good
>not good
>playable
>not good

based
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>>161342343
That sounds retarded. At the very least tell me there's cute boys in Shadowverse, because all the images I see are ugly baby makers.
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>>161342316
I agree. It's a free 7/7 in a class that can get those easily anyways. I'd rather run card draw.
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I guarantee everyone in this thread calling cards op/garbage have never gotten legend. Pros call cards wrong all the time and you think you're smarter?
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>>161342316

You're not the only one
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>>161342316
Even the 10 armor isn't bad you mong. Nowhere close to being shit like many other cards.
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SHOULD I JUST DUST ALL MY ROGUE CARDS AND PLAY JUST MAGE AND DRUID?
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>>161341345
>>161341706

1000 yen has been deposited into your checking account

t. Cygames Studios
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>>161342446
Say no more.
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>>161342473
>Muh stealth rager will be good guys wait and see!
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>>161341596
Fucking... this

Honestly, competitive play used to just be one druid deck, one warrior deck, one spicy meta busted deckâ„¢

and right now its druid, mage, and shaman

the point I'm trying to make is that druid's versatility has never, ever had a drawback and that it is consistently always been a top tier class
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>>161341069
>>161341495
That's good for us then.
Don't need a lot gold/dust to stay competetive.
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>>161342438
you could try being good at the game fag
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>>161342514
Tempo Mage is gonna crush all the optimistic slow decks.
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>>161342632
Mana ramping, Choose One and not having a single drawback.
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>>161342618
I'm putting one of those into my deck the second i got him. Just to tilt people who somehow loses against rogue.
Also, I will make shittiest deck possible so priests will stop taking my toys from me
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Ok, /hsg/ Jade Idol turns out to be completely OP and blissard decides to nerf it.
Propose nerfs
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I think Dispatch Kodo is super underrated. That's old keeper good sometimes and with the buffs like HanCho you can do so much damage.
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play Shadowverse
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>>161342795

>Hey guys, what should be Druid's mechanic?
>I know, how about print great cards that give you the flexibility of choosing a good mode or another good mode?
>GENIUS
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What do you say?
It's good because it allows you to pick whether to give your minion the buff or not. It's so to prevent the enemy priest form using SW:D on your Chillwind Yeti.
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Why druid and shaman have 3 jade cards and rogue only has 2? Did I miss something?
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>>161342632
Druid still has no way to efficiently remove medium/big minions. Its board clears are also garbage against anything but massed tokens.
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>>161342853
the copies of card can only summon jade golems, not make more cards
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>>161342187
I love how rogue keeps getting shit on by Team 5, but doesn't stop being fun and nearly amazing.

C'thun Shadowdancer rogue and straight shadowdancer are both fun archetypes that team 5 learned nothing from.

Oil rogue is a rogue playstyle that blizzard learning nothing from.

I wonder what gold the brilliant, tenacious people who play rogue will spin from this shit that Team 5 will totally not pick up on and force more pirate and stealth synergies onto the class
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>>161342940
I think all of them have 3. One is shared.
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>>161341069
to me it feelsl iek the best expansion yet, the LoE of expansions.

And I'm not meming. I think there's enough variety in it to make a lot of interesting decks. There's also a LOT of cards I'm considering for various wild decks right now which is great.
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>>161342853
Change to shuffle 3 Jade golems into your deck instead
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time for wild and never touch standard again
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>>161342949
Dealing with threats is easy when you are the first one to play them. Board clears are shit tho. Also great healing.
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>>161342940
Because rogue almost got a viable deck, they probably had to cut the third one.
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The /hsg/ Prediction Poll for Mean Streets of Gadgetzan is UP
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdZiDyQoWIX-QTanorod5aiXAdRCUEvgVEIASSkZJwfcyuepw/viewform

You got until some arbitrary time this week to get in your response. Let's see some hot opinions
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>>161342940
Blizzard probably thought that Rogue could do shenanigans to make even more Jade cards, like Shadowstep on Jade Spirit or Aya, Raptor on Jade Swarmer, and Gang Up on any Jade card. Still, I don't agree with Blizzard's decision to limit Rogue's Jade cards. It's essentially forcing them to play those extra cards in order to be good and, worst of all, those cards are all conditional -- as in, you can't just straight up play the Jade cards you want. You'd have to wait until you draw the accompanying card (Raptor, Gang Up, Shadowstep) before getting to play the desired card.
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>>161342949
And look how much that managed to keep them down.
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>>161343026
Nope
druid has idol, behemoth and blossom
shaman has claws, lighting and chieftain
rogue has shuriken and swarmer
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>>161343126
>I like playing vs N'Zoth Priest pls rape my face
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>>161343006
Patches Gang-up is looking like the new rogue meme of choice.
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>>161343192
Not playing old freeze to cuck priests
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>>161343218
EXACTLY

I'm so hype for that deck. It probably won't be good, but look at how fucking rogue players get dicked and still make something that will be fun to play and probably be able to cheese some wins
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>>161343218
That's a spicy meme.
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>>161342853

>waaa rogue got nothing this expansion waaaaa
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>>161343263

Don't know the meta snapshot in general, but I play Nzoth priest and I think my winrate against them is 55%, specially since most decks run eater of secrets in wild
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>>161341484
The good old days when life on the ladder was simple
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>>161343178
Reminder you can only abusing jade mechanics by bouncing aya or the neutral jade thing.
Other option is N'zoth for 2 1 drops because rogue is the only one having golem on deathrattle.
It's funny cause they just gave him shitty minion just for bouncing things.
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>>161342928
Nice card, here is some OC of my own, rogue really needs some good 1 drops you know.
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>>161343218
I doubt pirate rogue will be good enough but its got some neat tricks.
Smalltimes a pretty good one drop for going first and they have more then enough buffs to make a 3 attack so luckydo goes off.
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>>161341069
just look at how many card in old gods are played or the other expasions, usually around 30% or less are playable and most of the cards are completely useless
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Is it possible to make a budget shadow priest decklist? Like 2000 dust maybe. Using mostly classic cards
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So which legos will be played in non meme decks?
>panda waifu
>don whatever
>mage and the 3 class reno one
>kun
>white eyes
>warrior one
Is that all?
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>>161343192
anyfin paladin freeze mage miracle rogue and malygos druid destroys any variant of control priest, really any combo deck does and always will unless they add a way to overheal

Wild Nzoth priest only has >55% match ups against secret paladin, zoo, and full aggro decks. everything else not mentioned is close enough to 50/50 to be considered a fair match up
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>>161343368
This one, last one and the one before that. Except for Pillager.

Also that's neutral, even if it fits Rogue best.
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>>161343408
The 1 mana discover deathrattle and shadowcaster might help, we'll see.
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>>161343483
wrathion, priest lego, and that 4 mana 5/4 guy who draws until you have 3 cards
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>>161343153
currently answering, this is a way better filter to view each card by name/alphabetical order while answering:

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O fuck, I'm retarded. I thought Wrathion's Battlecry was "Draw cards until you draw a Dragon" and was excited because that means Dragon Priest can instantly reload their hand with cards. But now, having re-read the text, I realized that in most situations, it'll just draw one, maybe two cards. Still not bad, but not the massive game changer I thought it'd be. Oh well.

I'm still excited to play my Wranduin deck.
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>>161343462

From scratch? No, shadow priest is an expansive deck
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>>161343368
That's obviously a Warrior card disguised as a neutral. Sure, pirate rogue can use it, but it's not even close to as powerful as pirate warrior who's getting insane with the expansion.
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>>161343527
Actually it fits warrior and paladin best since they can have 1 mana weapons.
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>>161342853
A proper Blizzard nerf would be to only make the effect increase the attack of the golems.

There, unuseable.
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>>161343368
>Bladed cultist 2.0
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Is agro pirate gonna be a tier 1 deck? Be it warrior or other class?
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>>161343673
>>161343731
Turn 1 this, turn 2 hero power and you have tunnel trogg for shit classes.
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>>161340929

So if you preorder 50 packs and I buy 35 from my gold, 15 packs will get you several more legendaries, every epic, golden cards, etc, respond to this or your mother will die in her sleep tonight ?
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>>161343368
Holy shit this card is disgusting in arena rogue
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>>161343673
On top of this you get the lego tat gives +1 attack to all your weapon in your deck.

We just need to see how well Gang up Patches works. But it seems pretty hard to pull off. You can't play any pirates unless you prep+gang up in hand or Shadowstep.

Pirate decks are obviously more oriented as face decks which works better with Warriors charge minions, more weapons, weapon buffs and minions that buff weapons.
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>>161341718
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdZiDyQoWIX-QTanorod5aiXAdRCUEvgVEIASSkZJwfcyuepw/viewform
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>>161343483
Wickerflame BurnBristle
Sergeant Sally
White Eyes
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>>161343673
So new cards to put into pirate warrior
>patches
>warrior lego
>this one
>the one that buffs weapons in hands
Anything else?
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>>161340973
desu It would have been 100 times better if it was a 5/1 combo: gain +4 health. At least it would have some use in arena.
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>>161343192

>Implying N'zoth priest isn't a deck for standard too.
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>Force Stealth minions on Rogue

>Print a Stealth hate card in the same expansion

>mfw all the Stealth minions were only there to justify making the Stealth hate card as a roundabout way to nerf Miracle

Why can't they leave our only good deck alone...
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What does vg thing of my tier six deck?
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>>161344009
it's a meme you dip
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>>161344037
I wanna try that new mana wyrm. Might be good.
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>>161343917
It's rare. You won't see it.
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>>161343483
Genzo is sort of like Jeeves. I think it's strong.
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Anyone else think Shaku is severely underrated?
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So we all agree?
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>>161343368
Too bad Warrior is going to make better use of it because they have Pirate synergy and Rogue doesn't.
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>>161344179
nope
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>>161344063
is the the fucking deck recipe?
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>>161343483
Knuckles is very strong too. That card without +1/+1 is amazing already, and once you give it some buffs it's really good at dealing damage.
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>>161344191
genzo is also bad but otherwise yes
it never survives to attack
the great thing about jeeves was that it didn't need to survive
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>>161344179
Shaku could maybe work if you follow him up by the 4 drop that gives him +2/+2. Otherwise it's complete garbage since it's not even guaranteed to steal a card like the 1 and 2 drop.
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>>161344191
genzo sucks m8
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>>161344191
Give nogginfogger a tick and youre correct.

How can you not like ALL RANDOM
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>>161344241
No.
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>>161344212
>Defensive stat line+stealth
>Guaranteed card draw
>proactive 3-drop for rogue
What's so bad about it?
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>>161344261
>>161344276
>genzo sucks m8
He's literally auto-include on every aggro deck
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>>161344245
Knuckles allows face hunter to not go face and still go face. Pretty good.
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>>161344191
Finja average
Patches good
Auctionmaster meme
Madam Goya meme
Sergeant Sally good
Nogger meme
Wrathion bad
Genzo bad
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>>161344191
Beardo has potential in priest, combined with the free hero power, and Genzo is shit. Otherwise yes.
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>>161344191
>Finja isn't ticked
>Genzo is

WTF
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>>161344357
lost tallstrider isn't and this is a lost tallstrider in most games
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>>161344386

>Wrathion bad

Hahahahaaha. Oh wait, he's serious.
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>>161344279
I like it the same way I like Majordomo. The card sucks ass though.
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>>161344191
I will give Finja a chance if I unpack him in Zooloc with the new warlock murloc. Seems fun while not probably not competitive.
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>>161344357
if it was 3 mana and had 4 health sure
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>>161344339
Its pretty shit as a rogue drop

If it had 3 attack sure, because then cold blood can deal with the 4 mana 7/7 meme but its just.. meh.
>>161344507
Of course but you should still give it a tick for the meme factor
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post memes
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>>161344261
>>161344276

t. shieldbearers
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Since you guys are answering the poll, post your:
Favorite/Sleeper/Most Powerful

I truly believe that the rogue legendary is playable in pretty much any rogue deck since its perfectly fine on curve and SHOULD attack at least once so it will generate value.
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>>161344507
He actually does have a bit of potential in heavy control decks. He prevents OTK in a way few cards do.
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Even if it sucks, I cant wait for the expansion to hit and we get 1 week of fun. After that it's back to dailies.
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>>161344506
You draw a card, it isn't a dragon. played a 6 mana 4/6.

Could play Fight Promoter after draconoid operative.

Hell you could even play lunar visions if you expected to always draw two dragons.
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>finja
Meme
>patches
Good in pirate warrior
>auctioneer
Meme
>goya
Meme
>sally
Good and waifu-tier
>mayor meme
Literal meme
>wrathion
Good
>genzo
Decent but it wont survive the turn its played probably.
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Reminder that Dragon Priest is the chemo that will save us from Jade cancer.

It's a control-ish deck that's fast enough to rush down Jade Druids and their shitty removal.
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>>161344646
But would you craft it? I'd craft aya, but not him.
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>>161344646
favorite is solia
sleeper is the lock one
most powerful kun just for those sweet 18 mana turns, aya seems really damn strong too
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>>161344768
I probably will since I plan on playing rogue.
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>have 3k gold
>180 dust
>will get another ~150 by the time the expansion is out
>probably won't get a single lego and if iI do, it's Shaku

I don't want to 1st to come at all.
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>>161344646
>I truly believe that the rogue legendary is playable in pretty much any rogue deck since its perfectly fine on curve and SHOULD attack at least once so it will generate value.
wow

its like swashburglar but on turn 3

a card i only play because the alternative is magma rager

wow
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>>161344767
>Dragon Priest
>Faster than Jade Druid

Laughing Malfurion.png
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>>161344818
Me too. Fuck why do I love this shit class.
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I truly believe that shadow rager is playable in pretty much any rogue deck since its perfectly fine on curve and SHOULD attack at least once so it will generate value.
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>>161344646
>Favorite
Greater missiles
>Sleeper
Rat pack? is it slept on? seems extremely strong
>Most powerful
Aya Blackpaw - Jade seems to be king and she's the queen of jade
>Most overrated
Devolve - the card is very mediocre or bad and won't see play but some people think it's broken
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>>161344339
It's not a guaranteed card draw, it needs to attack. Swashburglar is a guaranteed card draw which is a battlecry and it's a freaking common. The only way that i would see this being good is if it was something like "at the end of your turn add a card from your opponents class" or some shit like that. Of course, if we are talking about rank 20 or arena sure disregard everything I said, this card is crazy good.
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>>161343427
Hold on. He has lazy eye?
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>>161344820

I have 4k gold and am also fearing this

There's so many dust tier legos and so few great ones
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>>161344832
>its like swashburglar but on turn 3
I'd run 10 swashburglar if I could senpai.
I also prefer thsi to burgle since I can still fight on the board with it.
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>>161344717
6 mana 4/6 taunt draw a card is the worst case scenario. The potential upside is huge.
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Sleeper OP. Also if you think the card text is inconsistent you're retarded.
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>>161344560
If Shaku was a 3/3 or a 2/4 it would be incredibly op. As it stands right now it's hard to tell but it's definitely not terrible like everyone thinks it is, but maybe not good enough to put into a top-tier deck
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I got 7k gold. 60 street packs and rest on arena?
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Is there at least one good card with "If this minion attacks face/kills other minion, do X"? They tried like 10 of those and they will never work, why the fuck are they trying to force it, why not forget it like inspire/joust meme
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>>161344717
And if you draw a dragon (which is kind of likely if you're playing a dragon deck, no?) it's a 4 mana 4/5 with taunt + 2 mana arcane intellect which is already insane.

But wait - there's more! If you draw another dragon you've basically won already.

Reminder that underestimating card draw is typical shieldbearer doctrine.
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>>161340929
I remember this EXACT copypasta with the same fucking image posted multiple times in the 2 months between announcement and release of Old Gods

also lmao I'm most likely gonna just drop the game this expansion cause I really do not feel like taking a choice between jade golems or fast as fuck aggro to prevent people from getting their jade golems off
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>>161344970
No no it wouldent.

>a legendary bear that gives a card and just swap out taunt for stealth is op
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>>161344936
And Blizzard is doing any promotion with free packs like with old gods.

They could let people endorse one of the 3 gangs and get the lego for free. They won't because they know people will preorder this shit anyways so no need for good will.
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>>161345010
Because now you can buff the stats on those shitty cards and they work more often.
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The discrepancy between 5 and 10 cost Kazakus seems huge. 5 cost was kind of shit, stuff like deal 5 damage, freeze two enemies, summon 1 demon, etc. While 10 Cost has polymorph the whole fucking board summon an 8/8 and shit
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>>161344925
It has stealth so it's gonna attack 95% of the time, in the event it does die it's a 1 to 1 trade considering they need to use a spell
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>wake up
>still no preorder bonuses
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>>161344860
How is it not faster?

1 mana 2/3
2 mana 2/4
3 mana 3/4 that turns your 2/4 into a 2/7
4 mana 3/6
5 mana 5/6 + Discover or 5/4 + 3 damage
6 mana 5 damage to all enemy minions

What the hell would the Jade Druid be playing on these turns?
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>>161345221
Shame that even something that powerful cant stop Jade druid since he can just immediately flood the board with 15/15s again
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>>161345221
Because 10 mana spell has to be good since it's your entire turn and you can never play both Kazakus and the spell at the same time.
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>>161344952
It's too fair. That downside is huge.

I'm calling it Wrathion will be the biggest waste of dust since Varian Wrynn.
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>>161345221
well yeah, when you have a card that doesnt allow you to do anything else on the turn its played it better have a big ass effect
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>>161345120
>comparing stealth to taunt
>disregarding the card draw
Rank 10?
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I now feel like crafting Illidan so I can have all the big demons. Fuck me. Guess I'll go meme with this in wild. Gonna be sweet with Mal'Ganis as-well.
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>>161345330
>>161345309
Oh I know, I was more saying it as a wish that the 5 cost spells would be more decent.

Pretty disappointing that it turns out you can freeze a minion after you kill it, god damn.
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This is going to be the first expansion I don't pre-order. Feels bad man. I just can't deal with this golem shit. Seems cancer then fuck.
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>>161345380
Why does this and deathwing 2.0 not trigger battlecries?
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>kazakus
>inkmaster + 10 mana spell

RELEASE THE EXPANSION
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>>161344969
>Wanna try the new aggro demonlock when expansion hits
>New imp is an epic
Fucking hell spending 800 dust for something that might not even work
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>>161344646

>Favorite

Dispatch Kodo

>Sleeper

Shadow Sensei. I expect people to try a stealth rogue deck, maybe it can be good. Rogue didn't get much this expansion.

>Most Powerful

Rat Pack, Many Priest cards, can't tell honestly.
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>>161345465
Because it would be insane?
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>>161345465
For once its a good thing since usually demon battlecry hurts you.

Also if you were actually asking the question, battelcries only trigger when played. This doesn't "play" the card, just move them to play.
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>>161345324
Is a succubus(male)?

She has long hair but she looks androgynous.
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Call of the Ragers when?
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>>161345365
No im stating the value of legendaries is worth more then what shaku is.

Syl is mindcontrol as a deathrattle at the cost of 1 health and random
Rag is 8/8 uncontrollable, indirect charge
Even the 3 mana tgt legendaries which were crap had better stats for thier effects then shaku.
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>>161345380
So what demons are you negating the battlecries of?

Doomguard obviously the best, Jaraxxus the worst, Abyssal Enforcer potentially is good as well.

Do you run the shitty demons with this card like Pit Lord and Illidian?

Potentially the worst of the Kabal legendaries imo, most of the time I think you're gonna be lucky to get 1-2 demons off since it's no duplicates
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>midrange shaman matchup
>win because spell power totem for exact lethal

feels so dirty
yuck
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>>161345324
This waifu + ambush memes. Or Iron juggernaut+bounce memes.
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>>161345524
Not more insane than nzoth
>>161345568
I guess this is true but I would have liked to play it with jaraxxus
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I'm going to play doppelgangster/Genzo the shark aggro deck with the goons buffs. Going to be glorious.
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>>161345489

>Rouge didn't get much this expansion

What a weird way to spell paladin
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>>161345380
So, I know that this card can get mega value, but besides Doomguard, what other Demon will give Warlock immediate impact? Not only that, but most Demons aren't good -- you'd be putting yourself at a real disadvantage if you include a lot of bad minions just so you can combo it with one card. Another problem is that Reno decks often get low on health, especially Renolock, so you really need a card that can have an immediate impact on the game. Summoning a 5/7 for free 9 turns into the game isn't going to stop the Druid you're playing against from sending their 10/10, 11/11, and 12/12 Jade Golems into your face.

The only combo I can think of is running two Doomguards and not playing Krul until you have both in hand, but that would take way too long and in the end, it's just 10 damage. If Blizzard introduced a GOOD Demon with Taunt (so, not Felguard), then Krul might actually be playable.
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>>161345324
bretty qt but awful card
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>>161345863
I AM MALGANIS
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>>161345465
Summon vs play
battlecries are only triggered when you *play* a minion from hand but the card text clearly says *summon* so battlecries don't trigger
relevant for cards like Hobgoblin which only triggers off played minions vs Steward of Darkshire which triggers off all summoned minions
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>>161345783
Paladin got great cards. Watch and see. It's going to be at least tier 2.
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>>161345662
Time to brew this up senpai. Here's what we can work with
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>>161344717

Drawing a card by itself justifies the 6 mana price. Everything above that is bonus. It also has taunt.
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>>161345891
Yeah, but that's Wild only. People don't care about Wild.
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>>161345659
Doesn't matter if it's legendary, it doesn't rely on synergies and it's a good turn 3 play. If you draw it turn 3 you're in a good spot, if you don't who cares. People run 1 copy of swashburglar for the same reason
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>>161345783
You're going to play this deck and like it.
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>>161344037
that shitty 5 mana "hate" card will be irrelevant you fucking moron
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>>161345380
>So, we give every cloth class some sort of Reno mecanic
>Ehh, boss, Warlock is already very good with Reno due to the insane heropower
>Well fuck it then, lets give warlocks shitty something something demons card, you know the drill
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>>161345983
drawing a card isn't priced at 2 mana

you wouldn't play a 4/6 taunt draw a card for 6 mana when you can play a 4/4 draw a card spellpower +1 for 5
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>>161345986
>Yeah, but that's Wild only. People don't care about Wild.
I don't know anon, I've been playing wild for the past 2 months since the meta was boring. It's actually great, and now with all the reno stuff I'll probably continue playing there.
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Rate this expansion
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>>161345970
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so fight promoter is supposed to be the new draw engine for priest right? priest has a lot of 6+ health minions and PWS can easily bump one over 6HP
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New rogue lego in the next set
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>>161346071

>Curator

Anyway, that's the worst case scenario. There's a decent chance that you'll draw at least 1 dragon. This will work nicely in priest decks.
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>>161346120
I'm going to save this for later when pala goes on rampage.
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>>161345980
Unlicensed Apocrathy, Imp Gang, Abyssal, voidcaller, Doomguard, and Jaraxxus are probably the only ones I'd run. Jaraxxus is still good for the matchups where you know setting yourself to 15 health is bad and he's better as a minion.

I mean I'll include Illidian for fun since I unpacked him but not if I was wanting to be serious.

Honestly I think a big problem is that none of this stuff helps you stay alive except doomguard and very minorly voidcaller, it's the same problem as standard n'zoth
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>>161346113
I ratted it 4/5 because for once I'm interested in at least 6/9 classes.
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>>161346163
It's good in Goons decks since he can self trigger and giving him 2 handbuffs while in hand isn't that hard.
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I'm only here cuz of OP's pic. Hi.
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>>161345324
smug pepe
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>>161346216
At least there's hope since Krul should get better with each new set/adventure released.
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>>161346113
Wranduin is canon/10
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>>161345783
>What a weird way to spell paladin
What the fuck are you talking about? Token/aggro pally will probably never be as strong as they are shaping to be in MSG
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>>161346264
thats Hearthstones community manager

she has nudes
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>>161346113
Better than Khara and TGT. On par with WOG
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>>161346204
Don't worry I'll be posting your quote when paladin's the worst class in the game
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The art of Shadow Rager is pretty great.
I think people overreacted, there's a lot of cards that are far worst than this.

Just look at Big-Time racketeer, no one will play that. Rager can at least protect itself in the early game long enough to go suicide in your opponent best minion.
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>>161341374
No.

Jade Lotus should run the following

2xJade Spirit
2xJade Shuriken
2xJade Swarmer
2xShadowstep
2xBrewmaster
2xShadowcaster
1xAya
1xN'zoth
1xBran

The N'zoth is for bringing back Aya and 2 Swarmers in the late game that will all pop some nice big golems. The Shadowsteps and Brewmasters are for bouncing Jade Spirits back into your hand to accellerate your golems, the Shadowcasters are for giving you 1 mana copies of any of the jade golem summoning cards and Bran is for comboing with the Shadowcasters (and maybe the Jade Spirits if you really need the tempo, just keep in mind however that you can get much more through playing Bran+Shadowcaster+2 1 mana Ayas with your 10 mana than any other way of comboing Bran in this deck because it summons you 6 jade golems and makes your N'zoth summon 2 extra Ayas)

As for other Deathrattles for the N'zoth, I would say only run Sylvanas, you don't want too many deathrattles stopping your jade golem deathrattles from showing up.
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>>161346185
priest decks are probably better off drawing with azure or drakonid + promoter

also curator is never run in decks where it won't draw less than 2 cards, he isn't even that meta and his draws are much more specific
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more like Mean Streets of Garbage Can
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>>161346113
Great theme/ideas, terrible implementations. So nothing out of ordinary from pizzaboy team
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Claiming because there's nothing like a 6/6/6 waifu that will keep me stocked up on Demons. WouldMakePactsWith/10.
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>>161346447

Rogue will use btr far more then that shitty card.

Rogue can shadowstep it and still have a 6/6 on board.
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>>161346447
Big Time Racketeer has it's place; it's own combos (still decent without them). Shadow Rager is very bad, almost as much as Backstreet Leper.
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>>161346113
Much, much better than Kara and TGT.
Slighlty better than WoG.

Overall, I think this might be the best so far. Got me excited for this game again, hasn't happened since BRM.
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>>161346407
Is this card good? I mean, I know that it can be used to slow down enemy combos, but, I don't know. It doesn't seem that great.
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>>161346037
NO, I will play midrange just like in the good old days. It's gonna be good, I'm sure of it.
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>>161346601
nobody is gonna expect my leper n'zoth rogue deck
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>>161346580
>Red potions everywhere
>red crystal in a bunch of arts
Can some lroefag explain all the red-stuff we're getting this expansion? Even the ooze is read, what's going on?

Did we just migrated from "Purple" Gods to "Red" Streets or something?
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>>161346687
Its spank
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>>161343192
not even a t1 deck
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>>161346113

It's the most interesting since loe, just have to wait and see how busted lotus/goons end up being
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>>161346687
Kabal are all from the red light district of Gadgetzan, you know, where all the drugs and hookers and scumbags are.

So there's a lot of red in their designs.
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>The amount of shilling on twitch right now
I'm dying
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Rogue players were butt blasted, said their new cards sucked. Said rogue was struggling enough as is.

So blizz gives them a magma rager.

My sides are in fucking orbit.
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>>161346817

There is shilling in this very own thread >>161346612

But streamers shilling HS is nothing new, just like Kibler said he was excited for ferryman and was going to try it
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>>161346615
I can't wait to have that smug motherfucker show up in my enemy's hand
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>control decks were all about value and maybe a late game ysera
>now it's about filling your board with 10/10+ golems or a huge maly burst

playing for value is shit now. i don't see how lotus decks will keep up
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Fuck ladder. I feel like I get punished for the smallest fucking things. "Oh! You don't have an answer to his big guy this turn? Sucks to be you!" I'm playing aggro
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>>161346801
>Kabal are all from the red light district of Gadgetzan, you know, where all the drugs and hookers and scumbags are.
Reminds me of when I went to that area in Paris near the Moulin Rouge. My dick pretty much dictated what happened that night.
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C U T E
U
T
E
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>Tfw you played dragon priest before it was cool/meta
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Reminder that new Shadowverse expansion will be announced on Friday.
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>>161346831
Really though rogues suck dick
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I don't get it. Druid has been top tier for years now - combo druid, token druid, yogg druid, maly druid and now jade druid.

Yes Shaman is dumb, but Druid has consistently been #1.5. Why does Blizzard keep giving them broken shit?
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>>161343376
no, your slow defensive deck with weak pressure and a weak healing does not beat freeze mage.
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>>161346831
Who cares man, they still managed to luck out by being in Lotus faction.

Even if the Rogue Jade Golem decks end up being the worst they'll still be playable in the meta due to Jade Golems being busted as fuck.

I mean who cares about a few bad cards when you get enough cards to support a deck for the best gimmick in the expansion, possibly in the whole damn game?
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>>161346615
Nah it's not good. I'm still going to use it. Look at that fuck.
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>>161347005
*farts*
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r8 dragon deck

http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder/priest#213:2;280:2;360:2;432:1;474:1;495:1;14436:2;14448:1;14449:2;14450:2;14460:2;22351:2;33152:2;33177:1;35247:2;42029:2;49638:2;49731:1;
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>>161346959
Wasn't Dragon Priest very popular when BRM was released? And even after, it was still played by some pros.
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>>161346928
>alley cat
>well groomed
>golden tusks
explain this blizzard
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>>161347046
>no, your slow defensive deck with weak pressure

Have you played wild?
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>>161347078
Im not gonna click that virus m8
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>>161346928
would be good if not in the land of one mana 1/3's and a nerfed abusive

>>161347093
also appears to be in a room with a lounging cat. that thing is pampered as hell
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>>161347005
Pretty cool. Might go back in a month.
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>>161347005
pls be my gothic lolita gf
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>>161347153
I'm rank 88 atm. You?
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>>161347093
Potion waste residue in the sewers.
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>>161347078
>all those black dragons
white pretty boi gets BLACKED dragon'd/10

It's even funnier considering that Anduin really does have a lot of history with the black dragonflight.
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Are you ready? I hope you have your 2x Shadowcaster ready and Brann to make some cheap Aya army & huge-ass Jade Golems
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>>161346959
>tfw everyone copied you who was playing anti shaman tech way before anyone else
>the literally class with sw;p and no one figured out it was good against shaman
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>>161345783
what a weird way to spell rogue
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>>161347281
Nzoth Golems is gonna be dope as fuck
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>>161347281
how does this survive with 3 health until your combo happens
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R8 and h8, full meme edition
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>>161347281
I already play Shadowcaster+Brann in muh favorite rogue deck
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>>161347367
The same way the Shadowcaster is used with Blade of C'thun/C'thun right now that cost much more.
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>>161340835
>make a card with this niche of a tech effect
>understat it anyway

why? This would still see no play even with pit fighter stats
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>>161347367
Your opponent doesn't want to kill it because they don't want to make a Jade Golem happen.

Or you could just protect it with a taunt or conceal or something I don't know.
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>>161347281
I'm trying shaman first. Need the white eyes lore deck.
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Can't wait for someone to use firelands portal in a esports tournament and get white eyes
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>yfw you realize there are people that think Sergeant Sallie is good
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>>161347450
A man of tastes.
I think I have a problem, I'm actually hyped to play kabal decks and Rogue as well.
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>>161345324
I'm predicting the meta.

Dragon Priest is insane, on the back of doing what they've never been able to do before- curve an early game into a mid and late game consistently despite being given a conditional 3 drop and 5 drop.

Wrathion is the engine of these decks, churning out giant draw spikes and walling off the weak board states of turn 6 with its immense 5 health and mighty taunt

Daring Reporter is the sole counter to Wrathion, becoming massive on priest's draw turn and taking over the game thanks to rogue's stealthing mechanics and insane ability to add cards to their hands (from the enemy class!)

in that moment we will look back at midrange shaman and think... was it worth it?
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>>161347374
>classic c'thun priest with thalnos
>a good meme
you're like a little baby

watch this

SUCC
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>>161347693
nice fan fiction
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>>161347051
They don't even have as many Jade cards as Shaman and Druid. They both have three, Rogue only has two.
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>>161347837
This reporter thinks that the future is grim
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>>161346040
Yeah because nobody will be playing Stealth minions anyway LEL
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>>161347593
hey triphammer how you doin
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>>161347693
I know I have a good chance on being right on this one. Screencap if you want. Call me out in a week and I'll craft a golden one.
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>>161347016
kill yourself nigger
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>>161347841
True but Rogue has more ways to repeatedly play the same minions efficiently.

Shadowstep and Shadowcaster for example, both of which not only bounce the minion but also reduce it's cost.

Rogues can abuse this to make up the difference.
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Take some shitty OC
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>>161347693
shit tier prediction

Reality:

Tier one:
Mid shaman + white eyes + barnes

Tier two:
Jade druid
Tempo mage
Zoo
Dragon priest

Tier three:
all else
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>try n'zoth hunter
>every game ends turn 9
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>>161347693
Dragon priest will be a solid counter to all the frothing at the mouth aggro gearing up to farm jade golem cucks.

In turn, priest will get stomped by jade lotus decks.

Midrange shaman will still be exactly where he is now, just with more flexible builds including meta choices like Devolve or the jade golem package, ore even going to back to the more aggressive roots, cementing his place as the king of this shit game, just as Ben Brode (pbuh) intended.
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>>161348196
Objectively correct.
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>>161347805
know what i never got, why add rogue into "Dragon Thief rogue" the class is clearly rogue. Its inefficient.
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>>161348196
Here is my prediction

>Tier 1
Midrange Shaman with a couple of slight adjustments
Jade Druid

>Tier 2
Jade Shaman
Jade Rogue
Dragon Priest
Zoolock
Tempo Mage

>Tier 3
All other decks except Paladin and Rogue decks

>Garbage Tier
All Paladin Decks
All Rogue decks except Jade Rogue
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Is Red Mana Wyrm what Miracle Rogue needed?
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>>161348572
I like it, yeah
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>>161348572
Devolved.
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>>161348474

Tier 1 : Supreme Jade Midrange Dragon Priest
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>kripp saying shadow rager is good
is he right?
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>no free packs quests on launch
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ferryman should give stealth instead of bouncing
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can we buff king crush to 8 mana yet?
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>>161348572
mana addict does the same thing for 2 mana MEGALUL
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>>161348640
Devolve will see 0 play after people realize that randomness will fuck you up anyways.
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>>161348708

Yes, its now awful in arena
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>>161348708
It's fine for arena.
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>tfw no one wants to talk about wranduin coming to hearthstone
Could you guys be a little bit gayer?
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>>161348385
fuck, you're actually right
gonna change the name, thanks anon
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>>161347005

>Tfw you have to use the emulator to reroll for perfect cards from decks otherwise you'll be at a huge disadvantage

At least in HS everyone has what he gets without rerolling.
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>>161348640
Devolve is a shit card morons
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>>161348708
>kripp 'I don't know how to build decks' arin
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>>161348729

He should have the shadow step effect instead of straight up brewmaster
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>>161348826
>tfw wrathion will never bend you over, stuck his dong up your poophole and then EXPAND into dragon form
feelsbadman
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>>161348842
>you have to
no you dont. I didnt reroll and am doing perfectly fine
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>You need at least 3 new legendaries to try all 3 archetypes
>Plus Mage and Priest class legos and maybe also Paladin

Damn, feels bad to be a poorfag, at least i gathered 5500 gold
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>>161348640
devolve is garbage

would only see use in a 100% n'zoth meta
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everyone is overvaluing jade golems
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>>161348842
The difference is that the ladder in SV is actually balanced and new players are matched against other new players with shit decks.
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Aggrolock, anyone?
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>>161348965
didnt you see the stream?

Speaking of, where can I re-watch it? I was in class so no sound
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>>161349027

it's on the playhearthstone twitch channel in vods, i'm watching it right now
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>>161348917
handbuff pally should be good w/o legendaries, though the marshal is a solid 2-of and thats 800 dust if you dont pull him
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>>161348916

You're perfectly fine with your 4-5 shit tier starting legendaries while the enemy runs other cancerous shit which requires perfect cards. Get real faggot. Also, shit board and card stating texture. Also weeb.
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>>161348965
in a slow meta they are unbeatable

but based Grimy Goons will keep them in check and by Grimy Goons I mean Rexxar
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>>161348965
Or maybe everyone is right and you're the only wrong person.
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>>161349051
thanks
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>>161348842
I spent about 10 hours yesterday rerolling but it's worth it. Imagine rerolling in HS until you get Ragnaros or something.
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>>161349010

That's because ladder in SV doesn't reset. Lmao.
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>watching jade lotus in action
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I honestly feel the most straightforward, powerful deck right now is going to be midrange huntard.
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>Watch Frodan stream
>Enemy Paladin uses hero power for straight 6 turns
>WOW JADE GOLEMS ARE SO OP

Its the Reno all over again, the aggro will be even more aggresive and thus the cycle continues. The only ones whose gonna suffer are warriors but fuck them anyway. Good luck getting your jade golems to 4/4 without dying
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>>161349069
Anon I started when you received free lego jsut from starting up. I was perfectly fine. I've been playing for over a month now and have 2 pages of lego, some 3 of. All that with 0 money investment. It's actually crazy how it takes no time compared to hs.
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>>161349095
I think golems look good myself, but it's very possible for everyone to be wrong
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>>161349212

Still a bad PC ported mobile chinese card game made for weebs. Allahu akbar.
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>>161349198
delet this
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>control decks now have both otk and lotus to completely destroy them
>midrange and aggro still have no counters
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>>161347693
the priest will just not play wrathion when a daring reporter is on the board you aspie. it dies to dragonfire potion too
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>>161349309
>made for weebs
Nigga I dont even like animes. Still the mechanics are far superior to HS. I'll still play both because Streets look alright enough.
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>>161349027
I did, druid won by turn 5 when he had 6 more cards than the paladin, no jade golems involved
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Take the poll

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdZiDyQoWIX-QTanorod5aiXAdRCUEvgVEIASSkZJwfcyuepw/viewform
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>>161349309
At least the SV client doesn't crash all the time and have all sorts of game breaking bugs.
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>>161349392

The mechanics are literally the same except that SV has the "evolve" system. If you really want a better mechanic look at ESO Legends. It really does have a good way of letting the player interact on the opponent's turn and make the game a bit more complex since it has two "lanes" not one as in HS / SV.
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So is there any chance that any c'thun deck will remain playable?
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>>161340751

eww to skiny, yup gonna pre order so she gets some sexy curvs, that poor thing
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>>161349198
Or maybe I could just use a bunch of taunts, heals and stall until you run out of steam aggrofag.

I can see Doomsayer and other early board clears/stalls seeing a fair amount of play in slower jade golem decks.

Hell, Jade Druid literally has a Taunt minion built into it with behemoth.

Have fucking fun with that you smarmy cunt.
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>>161349486
who's paying you for this?
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>>161349067
Still feels like goons deck should have HanCho as sort of semi finisher
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>>161349493

Lol what the fuck are you talking about. I think since 2 years of HS or whenever it launched I crashed maybe once or twice. Get a better PC faggot, stop running it on intel celeron 1.6 ghz 128 mb video ram. I also rarely found bugs
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>>161349343
>midrange and aggro still have no counters
Dragon priest will seriously do fine against them.

Maybe except against shaman simply because it's shaman.
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>>161349520
Love this meme
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>>161349497
>The mechanics are literally the same
We're done here, you clearly didn't play the game
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collage with all the cards where?
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>>161349645
Not an argument.
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>>161349736
>Not an argument.
love this meme
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>>161349645

Yea my bad the mechanics are not the same.

Fanfare = battlecry

Last rites or whatever = Deathrattle

Etc. Spellboost = spellpower.

The different classes doesn't justify you to say "different mechanics". Of course it's "different" otherwise it would be literally hearthstone. There's the class that has overflow and the blood bat shitter loli kid with 20 hp threshgold menstruation activation, but that's not what makes it "mechanically" different because it's just the inherent difference of the classes. I don't know if you can comprehend what I say.
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>>161349517
>Wow, this deck has 2 underwalued 6 mana taunts so i guess you lose, aggroshitter, hehe

Face it, jade gonna suck againts huntards and shamans . But good luck to remouval based controll decks unless there will be some 2 humility, 2 aldords, 2 kodos, enter the coliseum meme, but thats unlikely
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>>161349834
>Spellboost = spellpower.
w-what
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>>161349834
>Spellboost = spellpower
right on the others though.
SV is a total ripoff
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>>161349796
thanks for the cancer
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HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
I MADE MY MISTAKES
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>>161349889
>right on the others though.
>SV is a total ripoff
Both games copy Magic enter the battlefield/on death triggers.

Pretty much ALL the digital card games right now are MtG ripoff.
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>>161349940
rogues deserve nothing good
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>>161348772
>evolve is bad because its random
>devolve is bad because its random

Thats not how it works. Evolve is bad because on average a 5 mana minion is still worse than the 4 mana minions you would put in your deck. Devolve is amazing, because the average X-1 mana-cost minion is awful. On top of that it destroy grimy goons, bypasses death rattles, etc.
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>>161349876
>>161349889

Spellboost works similarly to spellpower in the sense that it servers the same purpose : making your spells stronger. Just that it works slightly different cause in SV every time you use a spell, some other spells gain a boost (ex from dealing 1 dmg to dealing 2 dmg).
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>>161349989
Magic has land cards and doesn't allow you to attack creatures

it's very different
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>>161344646
Favourite is Patches
Sleeper is Dispatch Kodo, I think if buff hunter is even semi-viable that card is going to be insane
Best is going to Drakonid Operative
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TIL if you click the spider on the naxx map it has a chance to actually pop out

have played since the launch of naxx and that either never happened to me or i forgot
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suggestions? how high you think this could get?
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>>161350025
but Spellboost also affects:
- Stats
- Card costs
- Amount of minion summoned
Its WAY more flexible and work from hand. Its completely different.
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>>161350025
but there are minions with spellboost?
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>>161350069
>and doesn't allow you to attack creatures
You havent palyed in a while right? That's the "fight" mechanic that a few green/red cards use since a few sets.

And if anything, the inability to block makes HS WORST than magic.
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>>161350095

Stats is what I've said already (if you refer to the damage a spell does).

The card cost reduction mechanic is in HS too (molten giants / arcane giants / faceless shitter 0 mana 5/5, etc), just that it isn't affected by spell power.

I'd say that it's not so flexible when so many elements depend on one single factor (spellboost).

And even though it's slightly mechanically different, that doesn't justify what anon said that "SV has superior mechanics" when essentially it's the same mechanics.
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>last few days of having a chance at maintaining even a 40%winrate with control
>>
Leave jadecucks to me
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>>161350210
Reynad was right, MTG niggers are all fucking retarded, on top of being unable to speak English you missed the fucking argument that HS/SV have *different* not *better* mechanics

gas all magic babbs
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>>161350285
>And even though it's slightly mechanically different, that doesn't justify what anon said that "SV has superior mechanics" when essentially it's the same mechanics.
But the mechanics are actually fleshed out for each class and balanced. Its similar to HS, but less of a mess and actually more balanced. Anyone who look pass the art should see that (and I dont even want to get into an art debate cause I hate both HS and SV art).
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This is the hero we both need and deserve in this shitshow of a game.
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>>161350210
fight is a gimmick that's existed for awhile, but it's hardly part of common play. he's not saying which system is better or worse(granted i got sick of magic's BW control and mana screw so make of that what you will), just saying that SV is far more similar to HS and likely piggy-backing off of its success while HS is demonstrably different from MTG.
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>>161346407
>enemies face when they play this to free up their hand but then bring it back with n'zoth
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>>161350386
>unable to speak English
I'm sorry that english is not my first language.

And yes sorry I got heated up.
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>>161350513
shut your faggot nigger mouth dumb yuro cunt
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>>161350375
enjoy your coin flip match up between jade druid and dragon priest
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>>161350443

>Player get this from Evolve
>Chaos ensues

S T O R I E S
T
O
R
I
E
S
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>>161350558
>yuro
Why do everyone always assume fucking Europe.
Do Americans think that the world is them and Europe?
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>>161350408

As I've said already, the classes having special mechanics is just like HS's classes having different hero powers. It's the necessary inherent difference which avoids making them the one and same game. The small difference is that in SV certain decks are made to work around a certain class as a whole, not just around its hero power.

I still don't see what's mechanically superior though. HS seems way more polished even though it has its flaws.
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>>161350443
wish ocfags would get banned
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>>161350091
-2 coldlight oracle
+2 loot hoarder

-2 seal of champions
+2 blessing of kings

playing 14 three drops is bad

I would say take out some other stuff for generic good cards rather than max synergy with rallying blade.

Bad cards:
scarlet crusader
c'thun's chosen in non c'thun decks
silvermoon guardian
probably smuggler's run
the ones mentioned up top

Good budget cards:
Truesilver weapon
consecration
defender of argus
direwolf alpha
azure drake
acolyte of pain
Tirion
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>preordered because I got paid the day preorders went up and i was feeling flush
>this set
>NO CARDBACK
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This is not (NOT) okay.
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>Jade druid
>Very slow start
>Board based damage

Its almost like you cucks absolutely forgot about Freeze Mage.
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>>161350617
You fucking wish that was OC.
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>>161350769
Hey, at least you provided food and shelter for some creative, hard-working Team 5 devs.
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here you go chumps, have at it.
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>>161350824
why do people care? It's completely unplayable. Might be cool to see zoo attack left and right but that's about it.
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>>161350558
this tbqh f@m
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>>161350769
>>NO CARDBACK
what since when? Why did they stop it?
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>>161350814
Druid is favored against Freeze Mage ever since they got Feral Rage.

Since Jade is guaranteed to overwhelm Control eventually, I can imagine Jade decks going full anti-aggro / healing, with double Feral double Moonglade. That'd shut down Freeze Mage easily.
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>>161350443
So is this Mogor + spells?
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>>161350091
>>161350738
For reference, this is muzzy's aggro paladin

Keeper of uldaman is the other one I forgot
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>>161350558
Go back to /pol/, kid
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>>161345324
IS THAT A BOY ?????? DOES IT HAVE PENIS ///////???????????????? I NEED TO KNOW IF THIS IS A BOY ????????;';;;
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>>161350885

I can't remember what was their answer, but it was the most dodgy answer possible, something like needing more patches
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>>161350443
>Baron Noggenfogger
>Suddenly a Mayor

>Wrathion
>Suddenly not a dragon

REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Does Krul PLAY the demons in your hand as well? His card text says 'summon', so it feels as though he wouldn't actually play the cards. Effectively you'd be summoning a copy of every demon in your hand. That completely changes the viability of this card.
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>>161350975
nigger coon faggot gook kike

are you triggered yet? we won, now get the fuck out
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>>161351042
>>Wrathion
>>Suddenly not a dragon
Can someone explain? I'm not knowledgeable in WoW's shit lore.
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>>161350386

Thanks for synthethizing what I've said in my argument :

>HS/SV have *different* not *better* mechanics

That's basically my point. Also I'm yurofag too and I speak english.
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>>161351123
wow wouldn't want you to feel offended in your safe space
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>>161350929
Fuck, for everything I hope.
>tfw you play this in your deck
>tfw your winrate is below 10%
>tfw one time a shaman shitter tries to clear it with his face and hits his own rag, losing him the game
At least I'd uninstall happy.
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>>161351123
I'm not triggered by random words from some anon on an anonymous imageboard. You're just polluting the thread.
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>>161350443

>doesn't turn your character into a skeleton

what the f*ck is this shit
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IS THE DARING REPORTER A BOY OR NOT ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>161351128
wrathion is deathwing's not-son but basically his son or some shit

but he's the only one who isn't EVUL for whatever reason

anyway him and anduin have some homolust and rogues have a quest with him for some dagger shit

he's a dragon though
a big black dragon
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>>161351128

Didn't play through Mists of Pandaria, but from I've read Wrathion is actually the last "Black dragon", the same kind as Deathwing was I think. Dragons can assume human forms (look at Alexstrasza, Ysera, Chromie, Neltharion which was Deathwing, etc). So Wrathion is the last of the black dragons, but we got the legendary while he's in his human form, probably to avoid empowering dragon decks synergy or for "design space" like they did with Deathwing and Deathwing, the Dragonlord, hur durr.
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What's the best aggro deck to shit on Jade decks? Is it Hunter or maybe some Goon Paladin variant?
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The more I try and make a hunter deck with these new cards the more I'm positive the deck would not work in THIS current meta.

Feels bad.
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>>161351327
Who gives a shit
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>>161351341
midrange shaman
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>>161351357

Good
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>>161351109
No, he plays them outright. HS is very clear about this sort of shit, because the userbase is retard casuals. If it made copies it would clearly state this.
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>>161351329
that doesn't sound half as bad as I expected. Thanks
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yuros are so retarded

I bet they're all fucking russian
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Claimed.
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>>161351543
what the fuck cuck
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>>161351329
He is a tiny whelp in his dragon form, actually
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>>161351543
I bet you shart in the mart
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>>161351532
How do you look the card on the site? When i try, i get redirected on the shitty facebook page
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>>161349796
You should just take out the Arcane Giants and maybe Rag and put 2x Doomsayer and maybe a silence.
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>>161351532

>Lifecoach reviews rogue cards
>He justs says no to all the cards, them highlights the word 'Rogue' and says "Nope"

How bad can team 5 get?

>>161351638

Use this site http://www.gosugamers.net/519-mean-streets-of-gadgetzan-card-list-and-spoilers
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>>161351543
So how's it going with your joke president?
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>>161351716
>gosugamers

opinion irrelevant and post hidden

next!!
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>>161351532

That pirates the smuggest out of all of them, because he knows his class is so bad thatna pirate was its best card this expansion
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>>161351559
>she will never give your penis frostbite
Why even live?
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>>161351716
You got a link to the lifecoach review?
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>>161341016
>>161341821
>>161348708
I am pretty sure team5 is just spiting people on purpose now i mean shadow rager? there is literally no way they made that card thinking it was good.
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>>161351716
I genuinely expect rogue to be still viable as long as you ban shaman, maybe tech in Vanish for jadecucks if they get too uppity.

But the design space is strong in this set, no doubt.
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>>161351734
MAGA KKona
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>>161351532

Real talk t3 shaku into t4 shadow sensei is really not that bad a play.

It leaves you with 2 vanilla statted 4 drops (-1 hp on sensei) for 7 mana over turns 3 and 4

And Shaku comes preloaded with stealth so hes untouched and can potentially gain continuous value with his passive burgle effect
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>>161351532
If we could turn back time
to the good old days
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>>161352102
I have no idea what this means, can you not speak in memes?
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>>161341712
I have a question if your deck consists of purely dragons and you play wrathion would you auto mill your entire deck?
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>>161352146
educate yourself

memes elected the most powerful man in the world
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>>161352075

Vanish may genuinely be the best counter to jade golems. Nothing else can clear a board once they get big enough, and forcing the enemy to replay them by paying their mana cost will slow them down a fuckton and clog up their hand

Late game, a prep vanish + aya vs a jade deck would put rogue so far ahead theres no coming back
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>>161351734
wtf he doesnt even let a muslim fuck him up the ass
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>>161352279
we all know its just electoral blabla
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>>161351921

https://clips.twitch dot tv/lifecoach1981/FancyDugongBCWarrior
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>>161352279
>tfw no chubby shy completely covered Muslim girl to fuck in the ass every night
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warlock has far better girls than priest

few know this
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>>161352279
no he only likes jews :^)
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>reddit hates krul

What the fuck? Am I missing something? This guy's a powerful finisher
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>>161352659
He's not. He's shit in Standard.
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>>161352659
You're a powerful retard
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>>161352527
I can't imagine those are too hard to get, dude.
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>>161352659
yeah, a brain. Think about what demons would actually be good to summon with him in standard when he costs your entire turn.

and then also remember that you can only run 1 of them because of the highlander requirement.
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>>161352132

haha what, that card costed 5 before? holy shit
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>>161353025

And Leeroy costed 4
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>>161352659
>play big minion, fill your board and empty your hand
>lose to AOE

Good job
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>>161352908
1 Pit Lord
1 Doomguard
1 Fearsome Doomguard
all that fucking VALUE

j/k, the card is garbage
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>>161353025
Yeah, the game used to be fun.
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>>161353246
Good lord I remember this bs when I started. Little did I know that undertaker-meta was right around the corner.
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>>161343913
Fag
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>potions
>jade golem
what was the third gimmick again for warr pala and whatever the last one was?
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>>161353246
Shit I remember playing the game back in January 2014. Fun times when no one understood anything about the game.
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>>161353246
Unleash cost 2.
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>>161351128
>>161351329
>>161351340
There's actually more black dragons out there, including uncorrupted ones besides Wrathion. In Legion, they introduced a new one.

In any case, Wrathion is the grandson of Deathwing, though he sometimes refers to himself as his son instead. He also only, like, four years old at the time of Legion, so his dragon form would be that of a whelp, which is probably why he prefers his human form. As Deathwing's descendant, Wrathion believes he is heir to his grandfather's role as protector of Azeroth, but unlike the other dragon aspects, who use the might of their dragonflights to defeat their enemies, Wrathion chooses to do things from the shadows, forging alliances and manipulating others to unwittingly help him in defending Azeroth. In fact, it is he who caused the Warlords of Draenor storyline -- he Garrosh and sent him to an alternate universe's Draenor, in the hopes that he could manipulate the Iron Horde to fight the Burning Legion. Obviously, the chuuni fuck fails.

In relation to Anduin -- during the Mists of Pandaria storyline, Garrosh drops a bell on Anduin. Believing the human prince to be dead, Garrosh leaves Anduin. However, in reality, Anduin survives, with a broken leg. Wrathion takes Anduin, helping him recover. The two bond over their similarities -- both are princes and both wish for a peaceful Azeroth -- but the two also argue over their differences -- while Anduin wants to achieve a peaceful Azeroth through diplomacy and non-violence, Wrathion believes it is necessary to destroy some enemies in order to achieve peace.

Later, in the War Crimes novel, Wrathion and Anduin meet again. They walk on a beach together and Anduin asks the Black Prince if he considers him a friend, to which Wrathion responds with, "You're my only friend." In the end of the novel, Wrathion frees Garrosh, but not before luring Anduin into a basement and locking him in, to ensure his safety.

Basically, ANDUIN X WRATHION OTP.
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>>161353246
I fucking miss buzzard. 5 mana 3/2 basic card.
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Kabal
>many interesting potion spells that you have to decide when would be best to use
>encourages playing highlander for even more interesting situations where every card in your deck is different

Goons
>mostly just spamming buffers, but has certain interesting buff synergy minions, e.g. "deal damage equal to attack", "draw cards if attack > x", etc
>some thought required, e.g. trying to get a buff to hit X minion means playing out the other minions in your hand first

Jade
>literally just spam golems
>no thought, no cool synergy minions (e.g. if your jade golems have more than X attack do Y, etc), just golem spam
>will either be bad or completely break the game

How did Blizzard fuck Jade up so badly? They're meant to ninjas aren't they? Why are they just big stat vanilla minion spammers?
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>>161353403
kabal's thing is highlander decks, not just potions

and goons have things that buff guys in your hand
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>>161353547
Nobody thinks it's a good idea to give hunter strong draw.
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C-Can I finally play Demon RenoLock?
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>>161353594
>buff guys in your hand
yeh that's probably it
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>>161353570
because anything else might have required thought or something that hearthstone's spaghetti code couldn't handle
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>>161353417
WIIIIIIINDS
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>>161353632
>wild
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holy shit what's with trump's stream
>regular static ear-shattering squeaks
>powerpoint fps
why doesn't he fix it
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>>161353570
>They're meant to ninjas aren't they?
I hate this complaint. It's actually very thematic -- the Jade Lotus are known for manipulating Gadgetzan behind the scenes, hence their stealth. Meanwhile, they let their brutish Jade Golems do all the heavy lifting. And besides, the Jade Golems are just constructs -- no way to connect them to the Jade Lotus (I mean, obviously yeah, jade, but that's not something that'd hold up well in court).
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>>161353693
>Wanting to play Shaman: The Format
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>>161353632
>all the renolock staples you cut
:puke:
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>>161353715
>watching trump

fucking retard
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>they keep buffing shaman
but why ?
>>161353908
i think he will do a decent job as president
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>>161353693
You don't know what you're missing man.
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DEFEND NOT POWERCREEPING SHIT CARDS

DEFEND IT
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>>161340751
Needs more chub.
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>magma rager with stealth
>pirate that has weapon synergy in a class with no good weapons

why not this card?
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>>161353908
at least trump's not incredibly obnoxious like 90% of all other hs streamers
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>>161353594
>goons

>pseudo-spare parts that allow to attach a certain battlecry, aura, or deathrattle effect to a minion
>create a custom weapon even for the memes
what could have been.png
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>>161353956
>with whirlwind it's a 4-man twisting nether
yay, more control warrior.
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>>161354042
You're right, he's so boring that you fall asleep during his stream.
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>>161354054
i really like the >art
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>>161353956
Warrior has some of the best card flavor in this expansion.

They are also mostly useless, too.
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>when your murloc secret paladin finally works
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>>161354054
o shit im retarded for some reason i read that as "destroy all damaged minions."

>>161354019
forced synergy: the card
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>>161353810
The fuck am I going to do, play 50 cards? I can't keep all the demonlock staples AND all the renolock staples.
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>>161354048
Creating a custom weapon would have been cool
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>>161354091
exactly! I usually listen to him when I'm going to bed
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why does the epic rarity tend to have the most shit cards?
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>>161353246
>midrange beast hunter was a thing
i miss these days. i got into beast hunter when i started around nax because the tcg i played the most was yugioh and it was more or less an archetype deck. hopefully handbuff hunter will be fun, because the only real fun i had with hunter post-buzzard nerf was dragon hunter and the standard format killed that off
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>>161354332
For me its Kripp. While he doesn't put me asleep, at least there's no shit music during is stream and... I dont know, his voice is somewhat calm enough.

>>161354354
Because most niche cards are there. And be tankful for that since you'll open less of them, it's a good decision.
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All the elitist roguefags complaining on Leddit
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>>161354354
to make bad meme decks expensive for casuals
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r8 me /hsg/
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>>161354354
people notice shittier epic cards because the rarity makes them stand out more.
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>>161354354
Blizz said a while ago that they first classed rarity by difficulty to use. Legend being the hardest common being the easiest. Seems like they've stopped though and based on the aoe rarity this expansion care something about arena now.
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>>161354213
>Coin + consecrate
By the Holy Light!
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Jinyu Waterspeaker has such good art
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>>161354510
i feel like reddit's voting system just leads to a nonstop flow of homosexual hysterics about how the game is on an irreversible decline
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>>161354570
Pants on head retarded
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>>161354704
I think that they did a good job with the rarity/arena balance this time. Even the Legendary designs feel... legendary, for the most part.
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>>161340751
Who here crafting all Jade cards cause that shit might legit get nerfed?
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>>161346914

Right on, senpai. Every faggot on ladder is jamming Rag in their deck because nobody play aggro anymore. It disgusts me.
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> Turn 1 Innervate, Claw, Heropower, Moonfire, all face.

My MMR has gone right to the shitter since I started dumping for those play " Y of X type cards".

Bless these new players' hearts.
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>>161354213
we did it /hsg/
we beat a control warrior with one card left in the deck
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>>161354987
i hope you conceded to him after finishing your quest
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>>161354987
that was me i'm doing the all class cards quest
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>>161349023
You mean zoo?
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>>161355057
wrong screenshot that was the paladin game
this was the fedorashitter
he brawled but it wasn't enough
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>>161355124
I don't know if that's the right course of action. Maybe crushing their hopes now will save them from suffering at the hands of this shit game.
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Find him a home /hsg/
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>>161355304
renolock is lucky if it has a follow up so this is excellent in that deck
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I hope we have another Purify level meltdown for Shadow Rager and Brode is forced to make another damage control video from his apartment.
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>>161354987
Jesus, Buzzard/Unleash on turn 7 with Coin too. So innocent.
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>>161355276
or maybe it will get them to spend money on the game in the hopes of getting better
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>>161355304
Reminder that if your opponent plays Leeroy vs this, you'll take 16 damage to your face.
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>>161355304
zoo
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>>161355413
why? We knew we were getting a rager again. What's the big problem? Don't people get that HS is a "fun and casual card game" and shouldn't be an e-sport in the first place? They sure keep designing it this way.
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>>161354213
>>161355057
>>161355224
Post deck
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>>161355413

Same here, I hate how Team 5 just pretends everything is awesome and ok

>B-but our numbers say there are unicorn rogue decks that do well

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/5fdy9x/before_people_freak_out_about_rogue/
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>>161355442
Good point. Gotta constantly BM emote to discourage them from providing Team 5 with food and shelter.
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>>161355502
>whenever YOU summon
I dont think that would trigger it. Clearly the opponent summons them on my side, not me.
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>>161355529
sure
made it because I got the 100 gold murlocalypse quest
the deck is really bad, pretty sure it's strictly worse or almost strictly worse than N'zoth secret paladin but it's more fun since it's a meme deck
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>>161355304
In Shadowverse alongside his waifu, Bloody Mary
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>>161355502
>if you have gangboss out your opponent can do up to 20 damage to you
what a great card
>>161355636
it's the same wording as knifejuggler so it probably works the same way
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>>161355573
but they need that food and shelter to take trips to hawaii!
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>>161355413

I like how they are making a witch hunt against the dev that spouted a lot of bullshit about Rogue was getting cool cards

How can these guys do PR for the game with a straight face if they knew this kind of stuff was in the game?
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>>161355737
I still need to open that girl.
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>>161355802
She's a good card, unfortunately Control Bloodcraft is just not very strong right now
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>>161355783
what babies
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>>161355559
not even that, they're gonna say "THEY HAVE MIRACLE ROGUE, IT'S LITERALLY FINE THAT THIS DECKLIST HAS NOT CHANGED AT ALL SINCE LoE EXCEPT MAYBE SOME LISTS INCLUDING ONE SHADOW STRIKE (WHICH IS ALMOST ALWAYS BETTER THAN THE 5/1 STEALTH CARD WE JUST PRINTED)"
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>>161355783
its almost like they dont give a fuck and are just getting paid
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>>161355774
>it's the same wording as knifejuggler so it probably works the same way
oh fuck, you're right

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODEEEEEEE
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>>161355778
They deserve to take a trip to a lobotomy clinic. Might actually improve their card designs.
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>>161355502
Imagine what your own imp gang boss can do to you if you have that shit on board. 20 freaking damage.
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>>161355724
huh I see what you say, but I might give it a try just for the memes
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>It is a fuck the rogue episode
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>>161354019
why are you retarded
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>>161355636
Leeroy triggers knife juggler, so I image it would be the same.

It's also 5 damage for every imp you spawn from Imp Gang Boss or after you pop a villager.
I don't think it's necessary for zoo, you have other ways to have a 5-attack minion on the board without this downside. If it was deal 5 dmg to your hero on your each turn, it would be a no brainer, but this one seems rough.
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>>161356134
also kills you if you highroll with imp-losion so fuck wild warlock
it could have been when you play a minion but they couldn't let warlock have a card that wouldn't completely fuck them
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>>161356170
i get no pussy dude
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holy fuck, I just killed a warrior.
l mean, it wasn't hard or anything but I actually killed him
Instead of hearing "I CHOOSE DEATH" I actually fucking heard his death sound.
It's been a while since I played against a warrior that didn't conced in the end
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>>161356424
Eh, it just another useless unplayable piece of shit that is in the epic slot of Warlock. At this point that's a tradition for Shit 5. I mean Team 5.
Every expansion has at least one so far.
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Defend this, /hsg/
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play Cunnyverse
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>>161351532

Shadow sensei is one of those cards that gets better as more cards get printed. You can already curve into it from Shaku for a yeti that draws you cards. Ethereal Peddler gets nutty when you get enough procs from her, and this yet another enabler.

Jade is looking to be a pretty strong archetype. Shuriken looks especially good. Basically more SI7s.

Red Mana Wyrm and Small Time Buccaneer look really good in rogue. A concealed Wyrm can push a ton of damage, and 6 damage is out of reach for most AoE.
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>>161354354

they're more experimental with epics, which is better for the game since new people don't have to use 400 dust on multiples for a deck
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>>161356612
He's the one defending me aggro scum
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>>161356612
Shieldbearer in bear mode.
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>>161356612
warrior was pretty oppressive in arena, so team 5 decided, in all their wisdom, to dilute the pool with this common class expansion card
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>>161356612
its a good card. or are you calling it OP? btw expect handbuffing classes to make better use of some neglected high health low atk creatures now
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>>161340929
>but this won't even matter, as the community will find a broken and cheap aggro/midrange deck that maybe runs two epics or a classic leggo
>this deck will dominate the meta
>all the forced archetypes won't matter
>even as f2p you will be able to grind with legend with that deck
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>>161341712
>play Wrathion
>pull Jade Idol on the first draw
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>tfw genuinely excited for this release
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>>161356612
Needs to stop hiding behind a purse and defend itself. Can't even murder a Tinyfin.
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>>161357106
do we live on the same timeline?
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>>161356612
Why the hell is this a common?

I thought the developers said they were picking rarities carefully for arena now, and then they created this shit? Warrior is decent but still no where near Rogue/Mage in arena, and now they gave them this.

What the fuck is wrong with Team 5.
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>>161357106
TGT was the best selling card expansion in Hearthstone
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>>161357106
I am. Best expansion so far.
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>>161341712
So basically:
>Mulligan for Idol
>mill yourself to all hell
>play Idol every turn?
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Paladin is going to be the new priest, right? They're already barely above them as is, and only got cards for one single shitty deck type which probably wont work because you lose to aggro and you lose to control.
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Did you saw the paladin today on blizz stream? It did absolutely nothing.

Paladin enthusiast are always welcome in wild where its still way up there with priest.
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>>161357554
paladin is just as bad as priest and will continue to be garbage
it will be alone as the worst class unlike now where priest and paladin keep each other company at the bottom
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>>161357554

as long as control decks exist then anyfinn pally will have a home
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>>161357106

Renolock is gonna be hella lit.

>tfw slamming jaraxxus in the priest meta

And midrange pally possibly making a comeback is all I really want from the game.
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>>161356612

T1 coin stolen goods to give him +3/+3
T2 play 2 mana 3/10 taunt

Watch aggro shitters cry
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>>161357650

those decks weren't refined and were made to show off cards not unveiled yet

i'd wait a week or two to see how it plays out
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>>161357692
>Renolock is gonna be hella lit.
Reno decks are going to be steam rolled by Jade Druid
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>in the future Rogue will have very strong single target removals and card draw
>didn't add a single one of those in the expansion
HAHAHAH ;_;
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>>161357692
>6/6 internals beating 20/20 golems
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>>161357687
Priest control steals your win conditions
Shaman control hexes your win conditions
Warrior control stacks 1billion armour and prevents your win condition
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>>161357554
paladin will be fine i think, the tools for aggrodin have been floating around but needed some unifying cards, i think this expansion has given it to them

rogue outside of miracle (which could literally be a stand alone concept abstract from rogue at this point) is going to be true gutter trash
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>>161357838

>3(three) releases since rotation
>nothing put into that design space
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>>161357650

I dont understand why you'd play the new paladin cards as an aggro deck. The cards support holding onto bigger threats and playing midrange, not dumping your hand

Rather than play "Empty my hand by t3 then pray for divine favour" game, why not play midrange and abuse the fact the minions you play on curve are overstatted as fuck?

Run some of the new 1 drops in to assume board control early and then use small time recruits to thin your deck and ensure your draws are value cards

If you can assume board control by t5 and drop your enforcer, the longer you keep him alive the more broken your hand will be
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>>161357916

the only matchup listed that realistically is hard for anyfin is shaman

ivory knight made warrior easier and priest was, is and will continue being the easiest match up for anyfinn
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>2 mana stealth that can trade with basically anything that doesn't have divine shield
>doesn't see play
>3 mana stealth that dies to random 1 damage
>Blizzard thinks it will see play
The only time Shitty Rager would be better than Patient Assassin is if you wanted to go face with it. I don't see that happening.
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>>161358202
The point was simply to make the rager of the set, that's it. Dont overthink it.
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>>161358202
Some people just like to win with bad cards

- Ben Brode.
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Can't wait for the inevitable Legendary Lord Rager.
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>>161357763
>>161357865

Games aren't gonna go like the one in the stream. Leave it to a Blizzard employee to waste pyrequality and leave Brann up against that deck of all things.

Also people will be playing more refined decks.
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>>161357937
aggro paladin is still garbage
paladin has a ton of buffs but nothing to buff which is the problem
the class has almost no playable minions
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>>161358202
UM???????????
SHUT THE FUCK UP
blizzard obviously put a lot of effort into the rogue cards this set
you're such a fucking entitled bitch, not all cards released have to be broken
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I'm back bitches
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Hey dudes, I added a new question or two to the poll considering the gangs' gimmicks and stuff.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdZiDyQoWIX-QTanorod5aiXAdRCUEvgVEIASSkZJwfcyuepw/viewform?usp=send_form

I hope that the 200% MAD phase /hsg/ always goes through has simmered after the card dump. Love you guys. You got till Wednesday when I get back from work (2pm EST) to fill it out. Fill out as much as you want when it comes to the cards, but the last few questions are mandatory.


I do have some other news to share:

>Mining the Userbase
The "Great Big /hsg/ Poll III: The Reckoning" will come mid-January.

>That thing your name is
Tournaments will resume shortly after the holiday season. Expect them once a month, alternating regions. Please note that I will only bother to do EU tourneys if there's enough interest not only from participants but also from viewers.

>Soccer
/hsg/ is involved in an inter-general League to play soccer using our dankest memes. We play against Idolm@ster General this Saturday. Hope you guys can come watch the team play.

Last thing, would you be interested in doing a card-discussion stream tomorrow at roughly 2pm EST?
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>>161358556
That's a big gun
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>>161358596
>2pm
That sounds fun but do you not work/go to uni or something? I mean, who IS available in the middle of the day? I sure ain't.
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>>161358556
>kill 7/7 golem on turn 5 and get a shitty 4/2
>next turn drood plays an 8/8 and 9/9
>die
epic!
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>>161358460
>Games aren't gonna go like the one in the stream.
yeah you are right, people are going to be playing GOOD DECKS

Are you fucking retarded? Take Malygos Druid and play 1 Jade Idol

That completely makes the deck viable against every deck when it runs out of steam
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>>161358743
he's probably not in the EST time zone
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>>161358749
>Druid somehow summoned 7 golems before turn 5
He's back and you mad, druidcuck
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>>161358743
I work pizza delivery. One of my shifts is 11-2.

>>161358796
Yes I am.
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>emp greater arcane missiles, evolved kobald, thalnos

nothing personal, kid
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>>161358912
>I work pizza delivery.
>Organize HS tournaments
APPLY FOR BLIZZARD, NOW
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>>161358907
i only play paladin though?
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>>161358931
>it'll be 6*3 instead of 3*6
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>>161358912
What's the best pizza at your place?
Are you in the US or Canada? I need a new place to order since I moved.
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>>161358596
Do I rate these cards based on constructed value alone or do I take into account arena value?
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>>161358912
a-are you a loser
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>>161358912
Right sure, Brode.
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>>161358912
B-brode?
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>>161358907
>turn 4
>fandral
>innervate
>innervate
>coin
>nourish
>raven idol
>innervate
>living roots
>wrath
>turn 4
Son, you dont know SHIT about Druids.
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Don't forget! If you can have enough patience not to open your Hearthstone client until after the expansion launches on Thursday, you'll have a chance to get golden Gadgetzan cards from your monthly ranked chest rewards.
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>>161359192
Fucking thank you.
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>>161359192
Are you sure it works that way?
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>>161358970
>>161359145
>>161359164
>yfw I unironically look like Ben Brode

>>161359083
>the best pizza at your place
I work in New Jersey and all our pizza makes other pizza look like not-pizza, if that makes sense. Order Pepperoni or Buff Chick. My personal favorite.

However at my particular location we sell not-pizza stuff a lot more than actual pizza stuff, and it's just loads better than the competitions. Fat Sandwiches, Wings, cold sandwiches, it's all there.

>>161359123
The pizza place I work at is VERY popular and caters to a richer part of the state, so 10$ tips are common. I'm not stuck in some dead end job, if that's what you're asking.

>>161359105
Constructed. I've been considering how to value "Arena" but haven't pinned down a good method.
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>>161359187
you sequence doesn't summon any golem, and a sequence that would do would leave the druid completely empty handed and relying on pure top deck scenario. which means that BGH'in a golem t5 is a pretty good deal.
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>>161359192
Shit, you're right.
I have 2 days to get to 5.
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>>161359192
didn't realize it's the 28th. need to muster up the will to play this shit game for 1 more rank
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>>161359192
>My finals starts next week
oh fuck me
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12keGki88ROQPPnogftM-Q9MnYzvl0KzGBXS9JesCRVg/

Card rating spreadsheet for MSoG.
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So what are going to be the must-have legendaries of this expansion? Kazakus, Kun... anything else? Most of them seem to be pretty gimmicky.
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>>161341426
>Giving Stealth minions to rogue implying it's gonna be gr8

>Lightning Storm
>Consecration
>Malestrom Portal *2* damage
>Nova
>Ravaging Ghoul

et fucking cetera

I want to craft Shaku because burgle meme is the only fun thing to do that isn't miracle rogue but I know I'm just gonna be throwing 1600 dust away for a card I already have 2 of (huckster)
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>>161359937
thanks anon
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>>161359981
>Most of them seem to be pretty gimmicky.
I like that honestly, that's how legendaries should be (just like in LoE for the most part).

I think Aya is a must for sure.
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>WoW:TCG Rogue cards were neat and interesting
>HS Simplified or destroyed them all


But all of these cards are irrelevant because when HS was first announced and being previewed all the WoW:TCG nerds back then were freaking out about how they were throwing away the complexity for the sake of making the game more casual and based more around minion combat.
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>>161359937
Hey, that's pretty good.
I'm stealing this for archiving our information btw ;)
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>>161359981
I'm convinced that Patches is auto-include in Rogue. Small Time Buccaneer looks really playable, except when you're going second then it gets dicey.
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>>161359192
>>161359253 >>161359293 >>161359549 >>161359710 >>161359835
When should I exactly stop loggin in? nov 29?
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>>161359981
White Eyes, Kun, Knuckles, Wickerflame are all decent class leggos.

For neutral, they all seem situational.
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>>161360090
Full art shadowstep got some lovely colors.
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>>161360090
minion combat was a mistake
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>>161360251
November 30th, 23:59.
Seasons change on midnight local time as far as I've noticed.
At least it's midnight UTC+1 for me.
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>>161359342
Sweet, thanks, filled it out.
I'm looking forward to control Shaman. Control Paladin is dead, sadly.
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In what order would you rank the Expansions?

GvG, WOTG, MSoG, TGT
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>>161359937
put this in the OP next thread.
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>>161360523

MSoG > WOTG > GvG > TGT
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>>161360523
WoG>GvG>TGT

not gonna rank MSG because we didn't fucking played yet
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>>161360523
GvG > WOG > MSG > TGT

MSG is of course preliminary
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>>161360523
WOG, MSoG, TGT, GvG
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>>161360697
.
Obviously, but what do you predict it will be from what you already know?
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>>161360523
>>161360687 >>161360697 >>161360743 >>161360823
Massive samefag
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>>161360863
(You)
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>>161360863
>hurr durr durr hurr
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>>161360863
take this (You) and leave please
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>art is looking solid as fuck in the new set
>excited for the new warrior legendary
>art literally looks like it was a screenshot of WoW

Ohhhhkayyyyy
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is face really the place?
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My problem is not that blizzard isn't giving muh miracle rogue cards, but stop trying to force shitty archetypes: stealth, add a random card.

Seriously, why don't you try giving rogue some cards that actually synergies with the class: weapon buffs, better weapons, combo cards that are good etc.

Something good they printed: counterfeit coin. It synergies with cheap spells (or gadgetzan), it can be a cheap activator + a little mana advantage for combos.
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>muh shitty rogue cards
>meanwhile Paladin is still deader than ever

what did /reddithsg/ mean by this
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>>161361391
it looked fine on the stream, i think a few places have uploaded low res versions
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I'm excited to hear what the panda minions have to say.

hopefully they have a chinese accent, "herro, you wan' sum jaaaade?"
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>>161361405
everybody knows that the face is the place
if you believe in the face you won't be making misplays
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>>161361604
Well, from what I saw in the stream, buff paladin might be a thing.
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>>161360375
It does.

>>161360396
Minion combat isn't a mistake, as much as its focus is a mistake. In the TCG you saw minions mostly used for their effects and occasionally colliding into each other if you feared your opponent had an efficient way to deal with it or a minion based combo.

That said, weapons and armour were fucking amazing in the TCG, and decks that dumped their entire hands were a lot more penalized than they are on HS.
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>>161352279
No, instead he lets Putin fist him
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>>161352659
the ONLY good demon would be FUCKING MAL'GANIS BECAUSE HE KEEPS YOU ALIVE

there is NO reason to not run n'zoth instead over him instead of filling your deck with shitty demons you don't want to play, especially when n'zoth minions will be stickier
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Is it just me or is everyone really undertaking the grimy goons. Tbqh, it seems like they could just curve out and out stat you easily...am I missing something?
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Objectively correct MSoG class assessments

>druid
Easily got the best new cards, jade druid looks retarded.

>priest
Got great stuff but idk how well any late game decks are gonna do v jade golem decks.

>paladin
Everyone was shitting on the paladin cards but now that we know pretty much the only way to beat jade golem decks is to kill them before they get going aggro paladin might actually be great deck for crushing druids.

>hunter
Cards seem decent, face hunter may have a place again similar to aggro paladin in checking jade fags.

>mage
Some really cool stuff again like priest but again I worry for their viability if jade decks are popular (which they will be because they're brain dead curvestone shit). Probably a bit more viable than the other Kabal classes for a late game deck though because they do have strong burst at least.

>shaman
Cards aren't spectacular but they're still gonna have all their other broken shit and I'm sure some version of jade golem midrange shaman will pop up and be total cancer.

>warrior
We aggro now. Control warrior will still exist too just because of the classic cards but aggro certainly got a big buff and again if jade golem decks are popular aggro decks will be good.

>warlock
Interesting cards but I really don't see how any Reno style decks can go the distance v jade golem decks. Warlock will still be around because zoo tho.

>rogue
New meme class.
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>>161362104
>paladin no. 3
>paladin above 9
you are retarded
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>>161362227
>>161362227
>>161362227

migrate whenever.
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>every single late game deck invalidated by Jade

Yea I don't think that's how you do game balance. Like it's not just oh aggro can run down a greedy deck it's fucking curving out and being a better Jaraxxus than Jaraxxus and stomping anything that isn't fast.
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They are actually fixing the wording to be consistent. damn.
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>>161362226
>reading comprehension
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Currently playing a meme reno druid but I'm thinking that a normal high end druid without malygos and justshit like y'shaarj rag cairne bog creepers and ysera is really good right now
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>>161353956
Has any other card art actually made you laugh /hsg/?
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>>161362156
Because this artist drew an awful Valeera and a cute Rager, now I want to play Rager.
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>>161362559
It's not that bad
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>>161362104
>rank 20 analysis
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>>161362623
Yes. I think I will run two of them.
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>>161362104
>t. player who consistently gets rank 15 ;)
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Hey guys, first time deck builder here. This is a little homebrew I came up with, do you think it will be good when the new expansion comes out? :) All feedback is welcome thanks!
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rate budget druid control dick
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Reno decks will be so fucking broken till the next cycle. Especially Reno warlocks.
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>>161365417
2 healing touch? You really couldn't spring for feral rage? Also Jade Idol > Jade behemoth
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>>161365663
it feels a bit silly to me to put another more than 1 jade idol in the deck given the effect
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>>161365581
>implying it won't die to aggro like always
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reminder that some fag made the thread early and everyone has migrated
>>161362270
>>161362270
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>>161351042
According to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFl6R71i9Xw which could be fanwank but instead sounds like going over stuff Blizz gave him.

He broke off from the Steamwheedle, used the three gangs to hold them off while he consolidated power in the city and then got himself elected mayor to be legitimised.

No idea about Wrathion though. Maybe because it doesn't count if he's him human form?
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>>161361391

so which is it, does the art look good, or does it look like its a game screenshot? you can't have both
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>playing a slow jade deck when you can just combo out
I shiggy diggy
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>>161365349
literally midrange shaman with white eyes in it?
or were you being ironic?
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