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Previous >>161305868

>[The Second Generation is Alter-chan ~2016 Christmas~]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20161128.php
- From 11/28 to 12/7
- Need to clear Orleans to participate
- Welfare 4* Jeanne D'Arc Alter Santa Lily
- 3* event CE can be obtained from FP gacha
- APK version update to 1.16.1

>[Ishtar gacha]
- 5* Archer Ishtar (Time limited)

>5* Serene Moment
Arts +10%, Quick +10%, NP Gain +10% (Fruitcake +1)
>4* Holy Night Reading
NP Gain +15%, NP Damage +15% (Shortcake +1)
>3* Saint's Invitation
+3% Defense, 100 damage reduction (Cheesecake +1)
>5* Holy Night Supper
NP Charge +30%, Crit Damage +10%, NP Damage +10% (Miracle Stocking +1)

>[Amakusa Shirou gacha]
- From 11/22 to 11/30
- Amakusa Shirou NP Interlude upgrade released

>[Half-AP Main Quest]
1/2 AP consumption from Fuyuki-Camelot story quests

>News
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- New ver - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- Next stream 12/6
- Babylon in December
- FGO Anime announced

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>Extella spoilers
http://pastebin.com/9Ai1Tg9i

>FL Spreadsheet
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>CMs
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip
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>enkidu apparently threw a giant bull's severed asscheek in ishtar's face
Old myth is fucking hilarious at times
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>tfw no Rin to save you from this hell
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So who /rin/ here?
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>>161315757
>>[Amakusa Shirou gacha]
I feel like we can skip this part.
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Is egypt cheesecake any good?
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Next story quest is up. It doesn't unlock any new quest. The quest does give a decent amount of stockings, so equip your Jeanne CE.
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>>161315864
post bond lines
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>>161315842
are you the same guy who also posted on wikia and reddit about that sumanai draw lol okay okay we get it
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Xth for best archer
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>>161315892
Instadeath gimmick. That should really tell you everything.
She's adorable, though.
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So, next story quest when?
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>>161315928
>reading reddit and wikia
>we
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Kill me
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>148 quartz gone
>not a single gold Servant
Thanks Nasu.
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>Use my last three quartz for a meme roll
>Silver card turned gold
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>>161315974
That's not Gilgamesh, Tohsaka, the red man, the red loli, the King of Kikes or Robin Hood
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>>161316061
BONE OF MY SWORD
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Ishtar's sprite art is a fucking joke. Only the most retarded Servants would show off their huge ass Noble Phantasms when not using it. Throws the concept of secret identities out of the window.
Well I guess it's understandable since not many people would even know who Ishtar is
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>there are """people"""
>right now
>in this thread
>on this board
>on this site
>on the internet
>on this planet
>in this solar system
>in this universe

>who have less then 1000 quartz
How do you live with yourselves.
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>>161316093
UNKNOWN TO DEATH
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>>161315864
Truly best girl
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Well, the good news is that Heracles is now np3.
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>>161316120
There's no need to hide identities in GO
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Reposting from previous thread, because I want to find a use for loli Jeanne but actually have no idea where to shove her clusterfuck of skills and semi-support np:

What type of team is supposed to use Jeanne Lily? The best I can see is Lily + Tamamo + Vlad/Kuro/Saber Lancelot for some NP spam arts team, if you want some half-offensive, half-sustain midpoint between using Medea Lily and using Waver, and even then her deck drags things down.
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>>161316061
KILL ME
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>>161316000
Go to MyRoom or restart your game. Next one in 24hs.
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>>161316120
When did the matter of secret identities ever mattered anyway?
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>>161316120
Secret identities are only important if you are a pleb with an obvious and easily exploited weakness. Not to mention it's totally irrelevant in GO.
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Who no Rin here?
I lost all motivation to play.
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>>161316175
You got cute Cat. Why complaining?
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>>161316175
Congrats!Make sure to feed her lots of apples!
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>>161316220
Here
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>>161316220
120 quartz, nothing

Will try an alt I hardly use and roll everything from the maint and tickets etc but I don't think I'll get her.
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>>161316171
Loli team.
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>>161316171
She's an AOE servant. You use her like you do any other AOE servant, to farm hands that are weak, otherwise they fuck off into storage.
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Is it just me or does it seem like more people than usual failed to get the 5* this time?
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>>161316220
Me but I don't give a single shit about her. Rin is already a boring character and her Ishtar design and art are both quite bad. I'm not gonna waste my quartz for her
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>>161316120
Thus isn't a grail war among Masters idiot
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>>161316175
EVIL CAT IS EVIL
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>>161316120
A girl with a huge bow can identified as an Archer for sure, but as Ishtar is kinda hard
And her actual NP seems it's Venus
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>>161316328
It's just you

Whenever a lot of people roll a lot of people will fail. This game's gacha is shit you just forget since most people don't roll on obvious bait gachas and it has been awhile
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>>161316120
Are you telling me people could recognize Ishtar from a gigantic bow?
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>>161316138
What good are quartz if you don't use them?
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>>161316220
156 Quartz and 1 ticket, no Rin. Maybe with the 5 tickets.
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>Ushi is drunk again
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So Jeanne welfare is the most reddit servant of all time right?
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>>161316394
Maybe people are being more vocal but I haven't seen this much complaining over failed rolls in a long time.
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>need 800 stockings to clear 1 roulette
>30AP gives like 50 with a full party of Jeanne CE if you're lucky
What a fucking joke holy shit.
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>>161316171
I don't know how you'd think of that as the best way to use her. Her first skill even buffs star gen, she's a buster/quick team servant with some support abilities. An arts team doesn't need her at all.
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>>161316365
Not to mention she can't be summoned by any normal means so it doesn't matter.
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>>161316485
Because there hasn't been a gacha this bait in quite some time.
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>>161316485
It's been a month since there was anything worth rolling and more people would roll for Rin than Cleopatra so that's basically saying nothing
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Can anyone post Ishtar's sprite arts for comparison?
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So is the 40AP worth farming at all or is 10-30 better for drops?
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>>161316465
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>rolled the same shitty 4* sabers mutliple times
now I'm remembering why I quit
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>>161316220
30 quartz on main
63 quartz on alt
Only gold servant was Marie
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>>161316485
It's been months since a gacha that wasn't obvious crap or a rerun.
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>>161316667
If you have gacha CE you should do 10/20/30AP depending on what you want to far. If not, do 40AP.
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>>161316485
EVIL GACHA IS EVIL. NASU WAS RIGHT.
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>>161316667
get all the jalter CE first from 10/20/30 maps
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Story part 2

The same group plus Mata Hari gets drunk in a cave. Ushi and Keika want to eat Tarasque.

Jeanne Alter's present for them is a potion that makes them take damage whenever they drink alcohol, made by Paracelsus so everyone but Martha leaves to go kill him.

Martha talks about present giving with Jeanne Alter. Martha says that presents should be something used to spread joy, but Jeanne Alter's of the opinion that presents should be stuff that's ultimately good for you even if you hate it.
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>Rolled Waver CE 5 times
>No Rin or cute Lolis story time
Why?
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>>161316220
180 quartz
Fuck this game
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>>161316856
>>161316762
I got gacha CEs, its just the drop rates are such ass from the 30 I'm getting more cheesecakes in 40 AP versus 30 AP.
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>>161316885
>Jeanne Alter's present for them is a potion that makes them take damage whenever they drink alcohol, made by Paracelsus so everyone but Martha leaves to go kill him.
rip doctor p
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>>161316885
>Story part 2
Where part 1 also let me guess reddit?
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>>161316856
>jalter
Fuck off
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I will get Ishtar in a few rolls just to piss you faggots off, watch this, Gilfags.
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Why is this allowed?
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>>161316885
Jannu is a good girl.
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>>161316885
Goddamnit, Doctor. Why do you want to ruin everything good in life?
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>>161316941
Can Ishtar beat Lancelot?
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>>161316504
She's a buster/quick team servant with a NP that buffs the heals and np damage of nps in the same turn. It seems like a waste to slot her into anything that isn't spamming nps and heals as fast as they can, and I can't think of any buster/quick teams that would take full advantage of the heal component, unless you throw her into some weird mix with Nightingale.

I'm mostly wondering if there's some way to take advantage of her support-ish capabilities, since her AoE NP abilities aren't anything to write home about.
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>>161317036
jet can't melt laser beams
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>>161317006
Farm Januu CEs first, you idiot. It's not that hard.
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>>161317036
No, she lacks speed.
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Should I put Rin on support even when she isn't leveled or would people prefer a max level Emiya?
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>>161317112
Oh please, don't compare your second rate knight with a war goddess.
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>>161317131
Both would be better if your ALL slow isn't busy with Mashu so you can cover all three cakes.
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So I'm curious, to those who whaled and failed for Rin, how many quartz/tickets did you put into it?
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>>161317131
People will obviously prefer Ishtarin, they don't need help to finish this easy shit.
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Nobu a CUTE.
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Wow this samefaging
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Anyone else not getting their code from JapanCodeSupply right now?
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>>161317197
20 tickets 600 quartz.

The only 5* I got was fucking Tesla.
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>>161317219
How else would the lancelot shitposter keep his meme servant relevant?
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>>161317157
A Goddess that couldn't beat Gilgameme while Lancelot can match the Lion King according to Galahad. Yeah he is far above her.
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>>161316175
Is this what Nasu meant by evil gacha?
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>>161317064
She'd get in the way of building those NPs though so in the end the buff to healing wouldn't be too useful. It's probably not the best part to build around.
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silly Fran, you are not Ishtar

go back into the gacha.
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FUCK YES
GOT BEOWULF FRANKENSTEIN RETARD CAT AND SUMANAI TOO
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S I N G L E S
also got second 2030 and preawakening
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>>161317292
I always hear a lot of cans, woulds and shoulds regarding Lancelot. But when the chips are down he never really delivers, does he?
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>>161316885
>Jeanne Alter's present for them is a potion that makes them take damage whenever they drink alcohol, made by Paracelsus
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>>161317292
Yet he got killed by a gay knight, and stabbed by a weaker saber version,your Lancelot can't do shit.
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So does Ishtar become a giant or is she's transforming the planet in the background into energy?
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>>161317006
I don't get it.
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>>161317414
Don't think about it too hard.
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>>161317375
Fuck off my speculation>>>>>Nasu's work
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>>161317358
Ishtar heard you plea.
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>>161317358
CAPS XD
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>>161317412
>stopped moving twice
Yeah Sieg is totally stronger than Karna, keep believing that.

>>161317375
He can't deliver or he would just easily beat everyone else as Nasu stated.
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>>161317358
gib friend code now
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>>161317414
Would you believe me if I told you that Ea is a galaxy buster?
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>>161317505
Karna doesn't have a skill that prevents his ability to fight from being clouded or negatively impacted. Lancelot does.
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>>161317509
817,839,801
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>>161317505
>He can't deliver

So he is just that shit
No feat but mere LE SPECULATION XD
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>>161317414
Applying a lil bit of logic to her NP
>logic when nasu is involved
she shrinks the planet to avoid completely destroying earth with the impact.

but you have to have a cutoff point on logic, and that cutoff point is trying to figure out how earth doesn't get fucked from the impact anyway.
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>>161317569
Karna doesn't need it. Lancelot does.
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>>161317505
Who said anything about Sieg?
You don't know shit do you?
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>>161317414
The one that makes your penis hard
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>>161317614
Giant it is.
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>>161317569
He stopped moving because he wanted to, see the entire Gareth episode, the guy just freezes now because of the gift.

Against Saber it had nothing to do with mental state, it was Kariya.
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>>161317603
>even attempting to use logic when the answer is literally its magic I don't got to explain shit
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Does anyone else feel automatically bored now that the event is out? Like a heavy curtain has been draped from above that quells the excitement you once had for this game?
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>>161317487
Sorry for triggering you, but Rin is my 2nd favorite Nasuverse character.
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>>161317601
I mean just like Karna who recently lost to Gawain in 1 hit, right?

Lancelot almost killed a "top tier" in 10 seconds in Zero, and he was still nerfed and holding back, that's all the feats you need.
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>>161317720
The last genuine excitement I felt in this game was welfare Shiki, I was bored even before the event came out.
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>>161317720
I'm always bored when I fail to roll what I wanted in the gacha
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>>161317695
Having reasonable explanations to magic or scifi shit makes that thing far more interesting. So I try and find one whenever possible.
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>>161317728
Who's the first?
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>>161317720
I just want Babylon already.
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>>161317613
Saying Agravain and Saber are stronger than Lancelot is the exact same as saying Sieg is stronger than Karna. Deal with it.
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>>161317841
Sakura
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But is she a slut or not? This is what really matters.
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>>161316220
Tried a 10 roll, it turned into unlimited lancer works, 9 lancers, 1 ce. And i wanted to use Jailter so it was pure evil.
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>>161317798
The only excitement I get from this game is the possibility of Welfare Shiki returning in a few months, even though I missed her the first time.
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>>161317841
Aoko.
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>>161317887
>is a literal divine Goddess of Prostitution a slut
hmmmm really makes you think
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>>161317887
we don't know because nobody transcribed her bond or ascension lines
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>>161317720
I too failed to roll Ishtar.
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>>161317768
>Nerfed and holding back.
He was neither of those things. The fact that he wasn't is why Kariya's mana was drained so quickly at the end. And
Artoria was herself held by shock and not fighting at her full capacity.

I'm not even going to get into the Karna and Gawain fight since you clearly didn't read it.
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>>161317802
This. Halloween 2016 went from shit to the greatest thing ever after i rolled Cleo.
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>>161317883
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>>161317241
Tesla in this gatcha?
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>>161316220
I felt like this for about an hour
Fapped to mtsp doujin and feel better now
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>>161317841
UN RIV AL ED
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>>161317959
>replying seriously to shitposters
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>>161317414
https://youtu.be/krePiKLpVFI

Reminds me of this.
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>>161317920
>missed Shiki
>even if they bring back Void, she's inferior and the 4* welfare version won't be with her
I'm so sorry
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>>161317991
>NTRfags
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downloading the update right now at 20% after i get in I'll use 64 quartz and 8 ticket, how fucked am I?

Is Welfare Jalter any good? How about best girl Rin?
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>>161318010
No way! Mine too!
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>all of the dbz images posted in the general have been followed by really baity replies

just filtering all of you guys since it saves me the trouble of putting in new word filters
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>>161318119
>only 64 quartz
>Jalter
>thinking Rin is best
Jesus christ just end yourself
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>>161318119
>Is Welfare Jalter any good?
No.
>How about best girl Rin?
Best Archer that is not Arturia.
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>Applying a lil bit of logic to her NP
>she shrinks the planet to avoid completely destroying earth with the impact.
But then why use Jupiter? why not a random ass asteroid from the bell?
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>>161318135
ZAMASU
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>>161318119
Fuck off reddit.
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>>161318119
A lot. No. Maybe.
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>>161318180
It's not Jupiter, you dingleberry. It's Venus.
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>>161318180
Didn't you know that everything evil comes from Jupiter?

Just look at every other scifi anime
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>>161318180
Jupiter's got a lot of hydrogen. That'd probably be a big explosion.
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I am sure Rin will come i I roll with my dick
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>Ishtar is Lawful Good
>the genocidal bed-and-a-burial goddess is Lawful Good
Nasu what are you doing stop it.
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So, welfare Berserker is all that's left for welfare team. Who should it be?
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>>161317720
It's sad how bad DW actually is at managing this game.
There's millions of mythological figures that can be made into servants, so we could have a constant stream of new releases.
But no instead it's 1 limited a month and maybe an event every month and a half.
I mean fuck if I were to compare this to another big IP then the One Piece mobage blows this out of the water in every aspect but the story one.
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>>161318307
Good is Nasuspeak for Evil.
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>>161318318
berserker EVIL Cat from Apoc event
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>>161317856
He got killed by these two and that's canon, deal with it.
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>>161318318
Festenia and Calvina in Bellzelute from SRW collab.
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>>161318180
Greatest yuusha is a cyclops, you fool.
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>>161318352
> Arturia is Good
> Alter is Evil

really makes you think dunnit
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>>161318318
Still need a welfare ST Lancer and a Aoe/ST Berserker
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>>161318298
she won't
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>>161318419
>Arturia a shit who had her country destroyed
>Alter a best who would have been a competent and effective leader
really does make me think
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>>161318307
>Fate alignment make absolute zero sense
This isn't news
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What skill should I max for Rin first? Seems like 2nd or 3rd.
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>>161318318
saber lion
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>Xmas event
>NO quartz
>NO tickets
>Jewish sock gacha rates
>Less Blue skill gems than 2015
>8 days length

Sasuga DW
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>>161318483
> Arturia wanted to destroy the Holy Grail
> Alter did everything she could to protect it

> Gilgamesh was an antagonist; good
> Solomon antagonist; good
> most antagonists; good

oh shit what is this
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>>161318318
Saber Lion that ascends with Cu's you give it.
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>>161318564
>NO quartz
The next story quest gives quartz.
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>retarded alterfags
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>>161318318
20% Next year's Halloween's Liz
10% Something else
70% Another fucking Artoria
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>>161318307
>Gil is chaotic good during UBW when he's trying to wipe out 99.99% of humanity because he doesn't like how they live
>Medusa is Chaotic Good when she greatly enjoyed killing the humans that intruded on her territory
>Atalanta is Neutral Evil because she wants children to be happy and caused the deaths of men who knowingly wagered their lives trying to force her to break her vow of chastity
>Redman is True Neutral when he lived his entire life and damned himself after death trying to serve the greater good as much as he could
Alignment in Fate is and always will be a joke.
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>>161318307
>tfw an accomplice to mass murder and still Chaotic Good
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>>161318607
So it does. Ill fix that next time I post it.
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Some of you guys are alright.

Don't go to DW HQ tomorrow.
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>>161318584
Exactly, sometime long ago someone told Nasu that Good means Evil and vice versa.
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>>161318638
But we never had Artoria welfare.
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>>161318307

>Anne is Chaotic Ev-
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>>161318640
>>Atalanta is Neutral Evil because she wants children to be happy and caused the deaths of men who knowingly wagered their lives trying to force her to break her vow of chastity
You do realise that her NP comes from the time she murdered a bunch of children right
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Datamine?
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>>161317959
>He was neither of those things.
Having Kariya as Master is canonically stated to be nerfing him.
>Isn’t it obvious? Kariya, you should know that as a magus, your abilities are not just one or two notches below the other Masters. It will affect the basic abilities of the Servant

Einzbern Consultation Room confirms he wanted to lose the whole time, pic related.

>Artoria was herself held by shock and not fighting at her full capacity.
She was defending at full power, she jdt wasn't hitting back.

>At this moment, all Saber could do with all her strength was to protect her body before suffering the fatal impact.
>all her strength
Even then it's again stated that her state of mind would make no difference
>Even if Saber had been uninjured right now, she might not have been able to withstand that strong momentum

>>161318079
>samefagging because he is aware he can't argue facts, so he better hope Ad Hominem is good enough
Hilarious, just like those Shillary supporters.
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>>161318640
>killing worthless humans is bad
>stuck up bitch not opening her legs is good
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>>161318675
>warns not to go
>goes anyway

CRAWLING IN MY SKINNN
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>>161318690
>what is Santa Alter
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@161318690
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>>161318640
>Medusa is Chaotic Good when she greatly enjoyed killing the humans that intruded on her territory
Said humans were there specifically to murder and rape her completely innocent (even if they are cunts) family, she dindu nuffin.

If Gorgon Medusa is still Chaotic Good that will be bullshit though.
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>>161318584
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>>161318690

it's mean to disregard Lily like that
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>>161318375
So that means you are arguing Sieg is stronger than Karna and Atalanta is stronger than Achilles. That's fine if you are a retard, I guess.
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>lancelot is a shillary supporter
>still defend him
?
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>>161318754
She's not really Artoria.
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>>161318724
Artemis and Apollo killed a bunch of children, not Atalanta. Atalanta uses the NP in the same way Xuanzang has one of Buddhas feats as an NP instead of her own, because she was basically a priest.
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>>161318640
>>Gil is chaotic good during UBW when he's trying to wipe out 99.99% of humanity because he doesn't like how they live
Retconned. He disapproved of how people lived and wanted to empower the tiny number of them who'd survive the calamity, but the reason he wanted to empower them in the first place was so they could build cool spaceships.
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>>161318828
Just report him for avatar fagging and spam
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>>161318736
>she jdt wasn't
she just* wasn't

My bad.
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>>161318818
Don't bring up other people into this, explain to me why your lanceshit couldn't win against these two.
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> pretty much all of my Servants with bonuses in the event are underleveled
> Mashu is the exception, maxed out
> she can carry the event

>>161318882
This. People forget about how much Gilgamesh loved spaceships.
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>>161318882
>Retconned
That how it alway was
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>>161318847
She literally is though, she is called "Artoria" in dialogue and on cards and stuff.

Also we got Lily.
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>>161318828
I'm with Gil
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>>161318640
Medusa did nothing wrong though. She has been protecting her sisters.
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>>161318640
Gilgamesh is chaotic good when really he just wants to save humanity, he should be lawful good

Medusa is evil when really she just wants to help sakura, she should be lawful good

Your idea of alignments hindging on their goals in it of itself is retarded.
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>>161317414
>Destroy the Earth.
>Anti-mountain.
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>>161318724
>>161318865
It also had fuck all to do with Atalanta, Artemis and Apollo did it because Niobe insulted their mother Leto
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>>161318938
Oh I bring everyone I want, bitch. If you wanna shitpost you better get ready for it and don't cry like you are now.

According to you:
Sieg > Karna
Atalanta > Achilles

DEAL WITH IT
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>>161318947
Oh, shit, my bad. I've thought of other Santa Alter. But Alter Lily is really not Artoria. Completely forgot about Santa, though.
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>>161319075
れたrd
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>>161319069
>Oh I bring everyone I want, bitch.
Oh my god what a badass.

Lancelot is shit. Mashu explicitly will never lose to him.
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>>161319019
>Medusa is evil
Chaotic Good, which fits her character way better then Lawful Good.

The problem with Medusas alignment is that it makes sense with the Fate character Medusa and not the mythical one, because Nasu turned her into an OC donut steel.
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>>161319069
So you don't have an argument, got it
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>>161318938
He stopped moving, you would know that if you actually read instead of shitpost.
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>>161319069
You can't accept the facts so you turn to shitposting, what a retard.
Pic related is obviously the strongest servant as stated by her.
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>>161319075
You do know we got Saber Lily in February, right?
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I want to break Atalanta's vow of chastity
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>>161318958
>lancelot
>not loving refugees
it's canon
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>>161318640
Redman was kind of an asshole about the whole greater good thing.
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>>161319212
Shouldn't be very hard, she literally tells (You) to your face that she wants it
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Kurikara and kujiran have got to have almost every gold at this point. But the number of rolls it had to have taken to get there is concerning
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Calm down Jeanne d'Arc Alter Santa Lily !
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>>161319168
Which means he lost, everything is fair in war.
Is it so hard for you to accept it?
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>>161318640
>Altera
>Attila The Hun
>King of Combat
>The Scourge of God
>The Whip of God
>Ayylmao trying to destroy Earth
CHAOTIC
FUCKING
GOOD
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>>161319152
>So you don't have an argument
Oh the irony. Says who, the one who thinks Sieg is stronger than Karna? Pfft.

Lancelot lost once to prana and a shit Master, and a second time to the Gift. That simple.

>>161319146
Lancelot will never fight for real against Mashu so what's the point.
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>>161319207
>the strongest servant as stated by her.
But she says Ozymandias is the strongest servant
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>>161318941
Sans the part about the spaceships.
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>>161319262
>leveling up the awful welfare
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>all servants now have bond ce
>except the new two that were released today
I don't get it. Why not just release them directly with bond CE now that the roster is complete?
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>>161319212
Valentine's shows she'd break it with (you), too. In fact, she's actively trying to get you to challenge her and gives you the means to beat her just so she has a proper excuse to jump on Guda's dick. Evil cat went into heat.
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>>161319069
Anyone have the screenshot of Melvin going full edgelord about revealing his hand or whatever?
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>>161319286
Lancelot will NEVER lose to Mashu. No conditions, and you don't have a citation for him never fighting for real against her, just your insinuations to excuse him getting his shit kicked in.

If Lancelot tries his hardest, Mashu will still never lose to him.
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>>161319284
Destroying the world is a good act, humanity a shit

The oldest and arguably greatest hero in mankinds history who declared war on all gods ever for man decided to wipe us out when he saw the 2000's as well
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>>161319282
So now you are legit arguing Karna and Achilles are weaker than Sieg and Atalanta because "everything is fair in war".
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>>161319289
So what did she mean in her final bond line?
A threesome with her and Ozzy?
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>>161318882
Spaceships are pretty cool.
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>>161319305
>Not leveling all your Servant
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>>161319315
Why release it directly when you can withheld it and claim is new content later?
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>>161319414
Too busy leveling up Rin
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>>161319428
Is she actually any good?
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>>161319382
She means she's actually Ozymandias transformed into another servant like Benkei and Sasaki
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Whats the point of making this welfare an Alter if this time she is just literally Vanilla Jannu but pale and small?
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>>161319286
>lost to a gift
>Argavain chose not to receive a gift

Please keep pretending to spout shit you cant read EoP. The fact that you keep changing the subject is hilarious when you get banned later
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>>161319368
Don't fucking bring others to this you retard, they're different people with different conditions.
Is comparing Lancshit with others the only thing you fags can do?
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>>161319284
She's honestly not a bad person. She only does the indiscriminate burning and pillaging when her programming compels her to. Without that command she's a sweet girl.
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>>161319351
As Sanzou said, for everyone but shitposters like yourself, it was OBVIOUS Lancelot wasn't even trying.
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>>161319461
create fake hype because nobody likes regular Jannu compared to Alter
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>>161319461
Takeuchi wanted to draw a loli saberface, so they did.
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Hey Melvin, is it secretly your goal to make everyone hate Lancelot? You know your arguments don't convince us, right? They just make us dislike him on reflex?

Even if he is cute as a bumbling dad.
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So is Archer Arturia actually good? What even makes her good, I feel like her skills are rather lackluster.
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>>161318529
Anyone? Rin skill recommendation?
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>>161319467
>>Argavain chose not to receive a gift
b-b-b-but my shitty BL machine translations said agravain had a gift
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>>161319453
>AOE
Nah.
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>kekalot mattering when babylon will be full of Gilgamesh the strongest servant
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>>161316120
Hiding your NP is a meme anyway. Only matters as a narrative device, allowing servants to have more gradual character exposition.
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>>161319479
>Didn't want to fight
Distinct from
>Didn't fight seriously
You're making an insinuation that isn't there, in the face of an explicit statement. Lancelot not wanting to fight doesn't mean he didn't fight when pressed to do so. Just like "I didn't want to serve the Lion King" doesn't mean he wasn't still serving the Lion King during the period before he was pushed to change.
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So this happened when I was trying to roll for more copies of the cheesecake CE.
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>>161319538
Just burn her.
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>>161319470
So you have no actual argument and you are aware you are shitposting, so you refuse to accept you are saying they are weaker while at the same time saying they are weaker.

Pathetic. Just accept you are wrong and move on, retard. Saying Lancelot is weaker than Agravain and Saber is the exact same as saying Karna and Achilles are weaker than Sieg and Atalanta, just deal with it.
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What are some other pseudo-servants they could do?

Masamune seems like an obvious candidate for Shirou.
Mary Magdalene is also perfect for Karen.

who else
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>>161319538
3>1>2
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>Tfw you're sure you've seen Lancelot's character before and it hits you
Do you think Saber Lancelot will be dubbed by Vic Mignogna?
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>>161319621
Zoroaster for Kirei
Freyja for Luvia
Some potato for Bazette
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>>161319523
But she just can make a loli Vanilla Jannu?
This JDASL is just like a whole new character
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>>161319467
He lost to his own gift you stupid fuck. Oh right you didn't actually read Camelot, so you are just shitposting, my bad I forgot you can't into moonrunes.
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>>161319698
>JDASL

Hellooooooo Reddit.
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>>161319698
Alter brings in more shekels then Vanilla, but they already did the grim Alter Santa last year, so they just went fuck it.
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>>161319453
She's not fully leveled yet so I can't tell for certain.
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>>161319706
So Lancelot has fucked himself into defeat in BOTH his canon appearances? What a worthless servant. Why would you ever summon someone that self-destructive?
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>>161319621
Jesus Kotomine.
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>>161319742
JDASL is from Nasu's blog you fucking retard.
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>use Ishtar's NP for the first time
>planets
>oh baby
>golden eyes
>HOLY SHIT
>that damage
So much hype for nothing.
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>>161319284
The scourge of God meant that (s)he was sent by god to punish the evil in the roman empire. It's the christian who called her that. Not always in the bad way.
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>>161319814
And yet no one else has called her that in /fgog/. Go back.
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>>161319602
>animation skip didn't work for some reason
>get all excited thinking that i finally rolled him after 5 million fp
>it was fucking nothing
>keep rolling for the event CE

Finally.
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>>161319823
AoE what did you expect?
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>>161319453
Her 1st skill seems pretty good.
Still need to see the % though
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>>161319854
The Roman Empire was entirely Christian when Attila was around you twit, they even had a pope.
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Do you have a stronger whale? lvl100 Rin is NP3 and CE is 1 from being LB
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>>161319939
>Have Scathach
>Don't level skills
That guy is retarded
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>>161319862
>>161319742
Oh right we should call her Jailter instead amirite fgogbro ;)
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>>161319879
Even for an AoE NP it's not that impressive.
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>>161319706
You can't even into English if you think "You obviously didn't want to fight" means Lancelot was holding back. Or, maybe you're just that desperate to pretend Mashu didn't kick his shit in harder than a kicking has ever been delivered from one servant to another.

If every single time Lancelot is summoned he fucks himself up then he's useless regardless of whatever shit you attach to him. He's different from other servants that fight their hardest but still lose, or ones that self sacrifice for the betterment of others, because the root of his failure is always his own stupid actions. Even in that final moment all he had to do was not call Agravain a traitor and he would have succeeded. Instead he MISJUDGED Agravain entirely, enraging him to the point that he was willing to chug superjuice in order to deliver the righteous beatdown Lancelot has deserved for centuries.
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>>161319993
no one calls her jailter here falseflagging redditbro
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>>161319862
You didn't know where it came from so tried to call it reddit to fit in. I'm not the guy who you replied to. You're just trying too hard.
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>>161319915
Pope just meant bishop of Roma. Even if the empire was almost completly christian, what become wrong in my statement ?
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>>161319862
>he thinks he can play the thread police

Keep trying I'm sure someone will care
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>>161319207
>so you turn to shitposting
Says the one who is legit arguing Sieg > Karna.

>>161319596
>Didn't want to fight
>Distinct from
>Didn't fight seriously
Same idiot who said Lancelot feats aren't impossible because did them. Moving on.

>Lancelot not wanting to fight doesn't mean he didn't fight when pressed to do so.
It was obvious he didn't want to fight for a very good reason. He was not trying. They mention that Galahad is his son too for a reason. Mashuhad said it clearly, only LANCELOT could fight the Lion King. Why didn't she go on her own if she was so much stronger?

>Just like "I didn't want to serve the Lion King" doesn't mean he wasn't still serving the Lion King during the period before he was pushed to change.
He saved the refugees, let Arash live and betrayed her. And he did want to serve her at first. Still did a very shit job because he didn't want to serve her later.
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>>161320027
>>161320046
>It's completely normal to use it

Yea man look at all those posts
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/JDASL/
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>>161320013
All I see are excuses for your meme servant, but please keep sitting up the thread with your made up headcannon no one cares for
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>>161320058
>Mashuhad said it clearly, only LANCELOT could fight the Lion King.
Or, you know, maybe she was calling him out on his own inaction and that if he's so fucking unhappy maybe he should do something about it instead of waiting around for somebody else? Just throwing it out there.
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>>161320002
Well glad I rolled because I like her character.
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>>161320087
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>>161320087
Oh look even more evidence

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/Jeanne%20Lily/type/posts/

Take your garbage back to your subreddit please, we don't need to shorten everything you fucking retards.
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>NP3 Sluts

Why ?
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>>161319939
Jeanne Alter, Altera, Ishtar, Waver, Vlad all NP5, Ozzy is NP2.
I think the guy also has NP5 Lancer Alter and NP2 Gil and probably other *5s.
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>>161320087
Nobody you're replying to said that.
Also,
>it's not used much here, therefore it's reddit, even though the source is not reddit
Trying too hard.
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>>161320028
The origin of the title 'Scourge of God' for Attila comes from Attila calling himself that in later depictions because he's an evil cunt who enjoys butchering Christians. The idea that he got the name from good Christians through righteous punishment of ebil romans is a total lie.
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>>161320168
Sorry but Word of God say otherwise
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>>161320134
She literally said he was the only one who could do it.
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>>161320140
Congrats anon. I want her too actually.
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>>161320168
JDASL is the canon abbreviation. Nasu said so. Read the materials you fucking secondary.
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>>161320058
>Mashuhad said it clearly, only LANCELOT could fight the Lion King.

He was the last remaining Knight she was aware of that would turn on the Lion King and be a useful ally. She definitely did not say Lancelot was the only person capable of fighting the Lion King, and you know it's not true even if she did because the player ends up beating her while Lancelot is dying to Agravain.

You obviously didn't even think this one through because you know full well Ramses II is stronger than Lancelot, and the only actual individual in the region before the game starts that can contest her.


>>161320119
>All I see are excuses for your meme servant

>M-mana!
>He froze!
>He didn't want to fight seriously!

For fucking real. Lancelot has never actually won a fight, has he? He's nothing but excuses. At least the living Jobber meme Gilgamesh beat Cu and Iskander. At least Saber can beat Medusa and Gilgamesh. Lancelot literally has done nothing, and since Agravain was so weak without being pushed to take their knight buffer if they had not brought Lancelot they would have been objectively better off.
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>>161320186
>>161320295
It doesn't matter what the source is, we don't use it here as shown by 600 replies roughly not using the shortened version.
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>>161320306
> you go and defeat the Lion King without his help
She was wrong.
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>>161320349
Hopefully you get her too. Cheers
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>>161319678
>Zarathustra Kirei
YES PLEASE
>>
>*どのような状態でデータが消失したか?
>*What kind of data is lost in the state?

What did they mean with this?
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>>161320363
>>161320295
Guess we better start calling Saber Altria then :^)
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>>161320306
He was the only of the Lion King's knights who wasn't blindly loyal or corrupted into being evil. Out of them he really was the only one who could either talk sense into or fight her. But that's not dependant upon powerlevels, it's about their history together.
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>>161320253
Attila didn't hate christian at all. There were a lot of christian Hun in his army (not orthodox though). He was quite tolerant about religious matter. The fact he rampaged and pilled have bothing to do with religion. His first victims were pagan barbarians like him.
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>saves refugees against their kings orders
>no feats
>worst jobber of the round table
>not a cuck
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>>161320373
>Why didn't you all travel through time to use this name retroactively?
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>>161320002
No Interlude
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does she have waifu lines or not ishtarfags, I need to know if I can roll
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6 single tickets and i got her, i 1 year and 3 or 4 months of not rolling with quartz still going strong.
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>>161320438
>The origin of the title 'Scourge of God' for Attila comes from Attila calling himself that in later depictions
>in later depictions
The phrase first shows up like 900 years after he died.
>>
>Ishtar and Cleo are shitty servants with wet noodle NP's
Good new servant on rate up when?
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>>161319939
No but I'm grateful to my nip friend with 90 Ishtar with the Amakusa ce.
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>>161320419
Else I'll cry

I'll do it
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>>161320373
>this abbreviation is not used very often
>it is therefore forbidden to use it ever
Thanks for keeping us all safe, thread police.
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>>161320445
>first JDASL posted was on the 24th

Someone else didn't have that problem
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How do we fix him?
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>>161320420
Sure why not?
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So, opinions about Jeanne loli and Rinishtar?

Is Jeannu AOE or single? is she good as Altertits/Kiyo, or at least better than Finn/LIZ THREAD?


Is Rinishtar worth even rolling? I'm a Sakurafag anyway
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>>161320628
Release Saber version and make Beagalltach remove buffs and seal NP.
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>>161320013
>You can't even into English if you think "You obviously didn't want to fight" means Lancelot was holding back.
It actually does and they tell her the reason why he didn't want to fight was because Galahad is his son.

>Or, maybe you're just that desperate to pretend Mashu didn't kick his shit in harder than a kicking has ever been delivered from one servant to another.
Or maybe you are pretending Mashu did something she actually didn't while trying to deny the fact that Lancelot didn't want to fight the whole time. It is a fact that Mashu cannot even touch a Round even after their Gifts are negated by Bedivere (See Bedivere and Mashu vs Tristan). It is also a fact that Galahad is aware Lancelot is the only one who can fight the Lion King, and she can't.
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>>161320603
>this abbreviation is not used very often but frequently on reddit
>it is therefore forbidden to use it ever

Just cleaning this up for you like a good moderator should, no need to thank me I do it for free
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>>161320628
give him more hits on his animations
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Smug redboy

n-no bully please
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>>161320660
Sweet nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor post.
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>hating on D'Arcness the loli
fuck off
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>>161320708
>smiling Shirou
OOC shit
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>>161320731
This is bait
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>>161320689
>It is also a fact that Galahad is aware Lancelot is the only one who can fight the Lion King, and she can't.
Is that why she and Bedivere fight and defeat the Lion King while Lancelot fights and dies against the weakest of her knights?

Your arguments are always about insisting what you think SHOULD have happened while ignoring what ACTUALLY happened, aren't they?
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>>161320692
Reddit calls her Jailter or that retarded D'Arcness shit they started saying recently, not JDASL.
>>
30 AP or 40 AP for fruitcakes?
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>>161320731
She doesn't even act like Jeanne Alter
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>>161320750
Might have just gotten done cooking.
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>>161320671
Jannu is weak. Rin is alright.
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>>161320731
Everytime she calls me Topanan-san or some shit I really want to choke her god damn she's so annoying.
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>>161320689
>It actually does and they tell her the reason why he didn't want to fight was because Galahad is his son.
Holy shit, not only are you an EOP you haven't even read through translations. Lancelot doesn't realize Mashu is Galahad until she tells him, which is AFTER they start fighting and Mashu beats him back.
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>>161320708
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>yet another boring disgusting flat chest loli
>still no oppai loli Servant
This is bullshit
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Anyone else getting better sock drops on 30 AP than on 40 AP?
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>>161320919
Shuz drawing a servant when?
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>>161320779
Originally they were but now they have started using JDASL
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Anyone had any luck with CE drops yet?
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>>161320943
Everyone.
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>>161320419
>>161320586
Anyone?
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>>161319939
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>>161320892
I'll try to color him now, since it's already part of the class exercise
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>>161320389
>more than 1 Servant
Yeah, that's the whole point. He couldn't help you anyways as they didn't know some info Da Vinci gave them later.

>>161320778
>she and Bedivere fight
>and
>AND
Exactly.
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So farming locations are the same as the last Christmas event?
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Should I LB Jeanne CE or is it like christmas 2015?
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>Mumei NP3 does more damage than Rin

Absolutely disgusting
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Final rounds for the farming nodes are:
10AP - Liz and Carmilla
20AP - Medea Lily and Medea
30AP - Retard Cat and Tamamo
40AP - Short Waver and Tall Waver

Who will be the pair in the final node?
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>>161321104
Don't LB it until the event is over. Stocking drop rate is disgusting. You need all of them when you do 5AP and 30AP.
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>>161321015
Have fun in class anon.
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>>161321160
Saber Lily and Saber.
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>>161320367
>She definitely did not say Lancelot was the only person capable of fighting the Lion King

Not to mention right after that it's talked about how all of the knights who got a gift could not fight the Lion King, they were under her control in a small way. The only one who could still fight her was ironically Agravain who refused a gift.
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>>161321160
Emiya and Amakusa
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>>161320868
>Holy shit, not only are you an EOP you haven't even read through translations
See >>161319479

He knew. He knew way before and was feeling Galahad way before they started the duel.
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>>161321082
>Exactly
So Mashu+literally anybody > Lancelot? Good to know. So Lancelot can easily defeat other "servant", but when you get plural he's hopeless. Seems pretty unwise to summon him in a Grail War since you'll have multiple opponents
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>New event is finally out
>Grinding socks before 50 AP unlocks on the last day is hell
>No point on wasting apples or grinding then
>Only login in twice a day to use natural AP the leave
It's like nothing changed.
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>>161321160
Gil and KoGil
Gilles and other Gilles
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>>161321160
Adding that Tall Waver uses def buffs and short Waver uses attack buffs
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>>161321160
Jeanne and Jeanne Alter
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>>161321015
>shitposting while at gradeschool
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>>161321152
Rin is trash and it's becoming more obvious the more I use her.
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How come we can't summon Agravain?

He's literally the only round table shit I care about. A based hero who surpassed the odds and obliterated the evil cuck cunt Lancelot.
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>>161321228
Amakusa and Emiya have no relation whatsoever other than that they have the same eyebrows and the same first name. If Emiya could be paired with anybody it'd be Angra.
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>>161321160
a saberface and a saberface
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>>161321332
He'll come with the Knights Reunion Gacha alongside Gareth and Kay.
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>>161320794
Everyone acts different as children. Ko gil and normal gil, Alexander and iskandar, Medea lily and Medea.
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>>161321332
To be fair, Bedivere wasn't even summonable as a servant until after the events of Camelot. As normal combat-wise as Agravain is, he may be in a similar situation.
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>>161321352
>same eyebrows
STILL MAD
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>>161321394
Alexander and Iskander don't act different though
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>>161321310
Explain further.
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>>161321332
I don't think they're adding the whole round table.
Maybe Gaheris or Gareth, whichever one they made into a traumatized yandere or whatever.
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>>161321430
Sure they do. Iskander joins a side against Nero while Alexander sucks her off praising how fucking terrible she is as a ruler.
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>>161321430
Thats because Iskander is a manchild
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>>161321418
Me too. The fact that they actually included such a small detail just to trick people feels unfair. It makes me feel lied to.
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>>161321332
Sir Percival when?!
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>>161321494
>two different situations and two different writers
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>>161320995
(you)
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>>161315757
What is this cutie saying?
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>>161321332
>no Gareth
>no Agravain
>no Kay
>no Percival
Why did they gimp the Round Table this hard?
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1 year saving quartz just for Ishtar and finally I got her

360 Quartz 22 tickets

Got her in the last 30 quartz roll, in one of the last rolls, I cant still believe it
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>use Kiyo's blue flame
>use Twin Arm Small Crunch
>use Brynhildr Romantia

Whats up with Jannu and the stealing?She doesn't even have Self-Modification now
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>>161320367
>>161320428
>He was the last remaining Knight she was aware of that would turn on the Lion King and be a useful ally. She definitely did not say Lancelot was the only person capable of fighting the Lion King

Bedivere:
T-That’s true. …The blood rushed to my head.
All the knights of the Round Table trust the king, but they may not know the lance’s true nature.

Mash:
Yes. If he’s been serving the Lion King without knowing the truth of the lance and the city, we may be able to persuade him to switch sides.

Bedivere:
Sir Lancelot, I have a question for you before we fight! Do you know the true nature of the holy lance, and what the Lion King intends for it!?

Lancelot:
…What?

Bedivere:
The Holy City is no utopia. It is the Tower of the End, an ark to collect and store ideal humans.
Did you know that once that is complete, this entire land will be wiped away!? That the Lion King’s endeavor is beyond the domain of humans!?

Lancelot:
…It can’t be.

Mash:
(Sir Lancelot lowered his sword! I knew the knights didn’t know about the holy lance’s-)
They were talking about all the knights in general, not him alone. He was the only one who could FIGHT the Lion King. He even said he would go and betray the Lion King by himself later on.
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>>161321610
You saved quartz for a year and only had 360? How?
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>>161321610
>360 quartz
>1 year saving
Doesn't add up.
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>Stay up all night working on paper
>Remember Fate
>Dump my saved quartz
>Get Ishtar
I feel like this is somehow my reward for being a good student or something.

Anyhow thanks for reading my blog.
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>>161321604
Just wait for Grand Saber Artoria, her NP will be summoning the entire Round Table at their best
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>>161321610
>1 year
>360 quartz
Sure thing buddy. Your will is weak.
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>>161321610
Congratulation on Rin, but how did you only save 360 quartz in 1 year?
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>>161321541
That's the point.
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>>161321651
Just logged for the Quartz instead of playing, I have america and camelot still there, and also rolled 2 times in summer for kirakira swimsuit, got her and Arturia swimsuit

I have some kind of affinity for Archers
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>>161320367
>even if she did because the player ends up beating her
She didn't do it alone and at that time Mashu still had not earned Lord Camelot.

>You obviously didn't even think this one through because you know full well Ramses II is stronger than Lancelot
Except for tje fact that the Lion King herself said they have to wait for Lancelot to face Ozymandias, and Ozymandias himself says something about Lancelot in Chapter 16, something an EOP like you doesn't know because can't into moonrunes.
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>>161321394
Shirou and EMIYA act exactly the same. Medea calls them out on that shit. They're both autistic sword-lovers who want to be heroes and like to cook.
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>>161321723
That's me and casters.
Got every gold one but Edison, Waver, and Iri
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>>161321394
Setanta when?
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>>161318119
3 ticket and 30 quartz after I finally got a limited 5*
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>>161321241
You kind of forgot Da Vinci.
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>>161321846
Once a sword autist always a sword autist
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>>161321846
Medea is an idiot,who made the most out there comparison between them.

They act plenty differently
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>>161321414
Agavain it's talked about in Camelot and garden of Avalon he has a particular reputation among the knights. Agavain who knows no wounds, Iron Agravain. Arthuria even jokes about hitting him with her spear because of his reputation.

He got that name since he comes back from every fight without damage supposedly.

He's not lacking in ability. Normal knights on roids can't do shit to your party, but Agravain on a Gilles power trip managed to beat Lancelot. And the fact that Agravain was missing some limbs tells you Lancelot wasn't putzing around the rest of that fight, he was fighting back, and he still lost. That does say that Agravain was by no means weak. Even when fighting a gift boosted knight while he had no gift, and only steroids.

You might claim that gifts don't boost. Tristans gift shouldn't have boosted him either, yet Da Vinci claims that he's powered by something that makes him maybe the most dangerous enemy yet. Gift does grant somewhat more power.
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>>161321723
>Just logged for the Quartz instead of playing

Thats bullshit,you still got maintenance quartz,stream quartz,anniversary quartz and DL breakthrough.
At very least 1 year should net you 600-700
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>>161321723
>>161321610
You have terrible self control then, enjoy Rin.
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>Emiya+Archer Saber+Ishtar
>all those buffs on EMIYA
OTP canon threesome
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>>161322025
Well I didnt log every single day duh
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>>161321927
Congrats anon.
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>>161321846
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So just started the event quest.
Did Gilles turn Jeanne Alter into JDASL over a wish or just because?
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>>161322009
Give me one example.
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>>161321597
That her name is: Jeanne d'arc alter santa lily lancer!
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>>161322086
>less then 1500 quartz
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did the 1100+ quartz anon get Ishtar?
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>>161321723
>>161321859
That's me and Tamamo.
>started playing around the summer event because suddenly wanted Casko
>rolled TamaLancer with 50 quartz
>rolled 3 Casko with 100 quartz during the Halloween rerun
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What happened to cirno?
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>>161321610
Congratulations anon!
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>>161322086
>>161321697

Thanks for the omedetou. Time to start playing again.
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Has Jalter shown up in the story yet? I've been skipping them
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>>161322119

Literally leaves Rin to be raped by Shinji since he cares more about his objective than her well being
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>>161322267
Emiya probably doesn't know Shinjis a literal rapist, although he would know he's a piece of shit.
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>>161322021
Camelot was the first time Agravain roided up like that since the roids kill you anyway. That would probably mean he qualifies now. You're probably right that he qualifies based on his legacy as being a knight who knew no wounds. That could either mean he was extremely skilled or that he was really good at escaping. Either of those would be good enough considering the low standards that allow some servants like Sanson or Phantom of the Opera to qualify.
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>>161322267
Shirou never found out about how rape-happy Shjini was except in HF, so EMIYA couldn't have expected that. On top of that, EMIYA knew that Lancer was going to be hanging around. She was safe.
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>>161322267
No evidence Emiya ever learned about what's up with Sakura and thus how much of a shit Shinji actually is.

It's also reasonable to assume he knows Cu is coming at that point, so it doesn't matter who he does or doesn't leave with Rin unless he believed they would kill her in five minutes tops.
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>>161322335

when Shirou asks him where she is he literally says "I left her with Matou Shinji.He's probably raping her right now,lol"
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>>161322425
>she was safe
Lancer is also a rapist
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>>161322335
>Emiya probably doesn't know Shinjis a literal rapist

>"But, the result is pretty obvious. Matou Shinji feels hatred and lust towards Tohsaka Rin. One does not need to think what he will do to her. He might not be able to restrain himself if she provokes him, so he might be killing and raping her right now."
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Wow the rates of this event fucking suck.
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>>161322484
You know, I'm pretty sure he did not literally say that.
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>>161322425
>>161322447
"Archer. Where's Tohsaka?"
"I have left her somewhere in this castle. You should hurry if you are worried about her. You were late, so I gave her to Matou Shinji, since he came earlier."

"What?"
"I kept my promise with you. I will not harm her.
But it does not concern me what other people do to her."

"But, the result is pretty obvious. Matou Shinji feels hatred and lust towards Tohsaka Rin. One does not need to think what he will do to her. He might not be able to restrain himself if she provokes him, so he might be killing and raping her right now."

"!"
I get pissed off.
How can he say such a thing so calmly!?


all there in the VN
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>>161322484
He most certainly does not literally say that. The Japanese do not use "lol", they use "wwww".

Also that's provoking Shirou, not a serious expression of what he expects to happen. Especially since Lancer is going to rescue her.

Archer's plan makes no sense unless you concede that he had some intention of safeguarding Rin in the long term.
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>>161322527
yeah but Cu doesn't leave any woman unsatisfied
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>>161322021
>but Agravain on a Gilles power trip managed to beat Lancelot. And the fact that Agravain was missing some limbs tells you Lancelot wasn't putzing around the rest of that fight, he was fighting back, and he still lost
That's where you got it wrong. Agravain was already in that state. Lancelot stopped moving and then Agravain killed him. You already see Agravain utterly fucked before he kills Lancelot.
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>>161322527
Lancer did nothing wrong.

>>161322484
>>161322537
>>161322607
His whole goal in UBW is to force Shirou to give up his own ideals by making himself seem as terrible as possible, no matter what he has to say or do. Compare his behavior in UBW to in Fate and HF - the former where he's out most of it, the latter where he realizes there's a bigger threat to deal with.
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>>161322417
Point about the roids was just that roids don't make you ultimate or anything, other roided knights here couldn't beat you. However roided Agravain beat Lancelot who was also powered up a bit, so their gap can't be that large apart in the first place, so he' probably strong. He should be considering his family. Him having no wounds could be his np somehow.
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>>161322125
i know, i only started hoarding after the first gilgamesh event with evil cat so i lost around 150 quartz there.
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>>161322617
>Scathach
>Medb
>>
>redman apologists
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>>161322617
>has been known to break peoples limbs while fucking them
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>>161322623
He only had a few cuts at that point, not missing most of his body.
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>>161322636
>However roided Agravain beat Lancelot who was also powered up a bit,
Lancelot literally stopped moving. He already had those wounds before he started his speech.
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>>161322673
Scathach was satisfied, Medb was anrgy because he didn't fuck her
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Who is better,NP2 Sad Vlad or Santa Jannu?
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>>161322613
I don't think Archer's stupid enough to actually forget that Gilgamesh was hanging around the castle and that Lancer is also Kirei's Servant.

he cares about himself more than he cares about Rin
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>that reaction after calling Alter Lily cute
Oh my fucking god
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>>161322751
D'arcness for drops
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>>161319583
I just want to hear him talk about spaceships.
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>>161319939
That's a low-tier whale. This guy's Ilya is NP5, Void Shiki NP5, Gil NP3. Tamamo NP2, Drake NP4, and Waver NP4.
This isn't even the biggest whale I have on my friend list, but the others have replaced their normal servants with event ones.
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>>161322713
He was already fucked up at that point, the sprite is even the same. On top of that, the roids fuck him up even further.

We know Lancelot stopped moving and you see Agravain killing Lancelot almost on screen, blood sound included.
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>>161322730
>Scathach was satisfied
Her entire angst is due to the fact that Cu didn't do his one job
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>>161322835
Ah, that makes me feel a lot better about myself.

Then again, I wonder if that guy is unbelievably happy with this dumb mobile game and is generally more pleased with life than I am.
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>>161322835
>>161319939
>tfw no whale to suck up my FP
>only have /fgog/ scrubs on FL
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>>161322527
Lancer sticks around and makes breakfast for his rape victims the next morning, it's fine.
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>>161322953
>adding people from /fgog/

worst mistake of my life, I ended up purging the whole thing beside like 2 - 3. Now I only add nip whales
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>>161322904
Well he's probably a Nip, so all things being equal, you're probably a happier person overall than he is. The only happiness they have on their island is shit like this.
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Agravain - still standing after hundreds of cuts, missing limbs, broken ribs, broken everything

Lancelot - beaten in one hit
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>>161317991
>mtsp doujin
What's that?

Guys I didn't get Rin and I don't have any cash. I can get her later right?
>>
Ishtar bond 1

「私を楽しませなさい、とは言わないわ。人間にそこまで求めてないしね。せめて、飽きさせないよう踊りなさい。それなら、ちょっとだけ付き合ってあげるから」

Ishtar Ascension 1
「暑くなってきたし、そろそろ脱ごっかなー。ん?なぁに、気になる?ダメよ、お預け!私に夢中になるのはもっと再臨してからね」
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>>161322867
Not his fault the Morrigan had it out for him.
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>>161319939
Whale from Halloween. All of them are NP5.
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>>161323125
Become an old man and get a bunch of money. Then you'll roll her.
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>>161323125
https://exhentai.org/g/940389/c144d4f742/
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>>161317991
Jin Extra series when? Jin FGO series when? Also he still has Sakura and Medea to NTR
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>>161323125
>What's that?
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>>161323056
>hundreds of cuts
Oh look the guy is as delusional as the Hercfags who believe Gilgamesh used a lot of Gates on him.
>>
So is Ishtar the strongest servant now in Fate?
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>>161323160
Here's all her bond lines

TL it weebs

https://twitter.com/soraha22/status/803249520163176448
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>>161323056
We don't know how many hits it took. It's implied the way it cuts out that Lancelot had a really fucking brutal death
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>>161323160
>私を楽しませなさい
SLUUUUUUT
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>>161323183
Oh hey a whale that actually levels skills. That's impressive.
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>>161323240
Nah, Lancelot is still unrivaled
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>>161322425
>EMIYA couldn't have expected that.
Come on, anyone could have expected that Shinji might try something.
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>>161323251
She says she won't let you go in her final bond line I think
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>>161323227
This is where the discussion ends, my illiterate shitposter
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>>161323240
>literally beaten by Gil
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>>161322867
Not his fault she went away when he was ready for the deal.
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I don't really want ishtar but not rolling for almost a month makes me want to roll
Send help
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>>161322527
Lancer is a good guy though.

he'd rather get consent if possible.
>>
>>161323240
No. The top ten power ranking is still:

Solomon
King Hassan
Gilgamesh
Enkidu
Karna
Arjuna
Heracles
Arturia Pendragon
Cu Chulainn
Ozymandias
>>
50k FP spent and still no George CE
I've spent less to find Angra Mainyu
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>>161323197
Why's that? Does Rin need money for something?

>>161323208
I too dumb to outwit panda.

>>161323220
???
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>>161323424
He didn't even knew what consent is in HA.
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>>161323379
I felt like that too
spent 1 ticket, 1 single and 3 10 rolls
I wish I could rewind time before this mistake
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Should I max the 3* event CE?
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>>161323551
His consent is just a little more simple than ours.

like a certain other.
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>>161323551
That's because he always got it, so he didn't know when he didn't have it. He just seduced whoever he wanted, except when Shirou would get involved.
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>>161323456
Cu's that high? I thought he was shit.
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>>161323456
>Cu
>no Scathach
wew
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>>161323456
I don't think it's really fair to include Grands. They belong on their own list.
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>630 quartz spent
>Not a single gold servant
Someone kill me now.
>>
Where to farm?
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>>161323456
>Shituria
>that high
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>>161323702
>>161323712
Cu is really efficient for what he does. Scat doesn't have causality reversal either. Cu has been somewhat powercrept, but he's pretty good in every class he appears in so far.
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>>161323351
>Although Archer had somewhat enjoyed this original game for a while, he soon grew bored of the aerial battle after the third, then fourth exchange of the endless Holy Phantasms and missiles.
>endless Holy Phantasms and missiles.
Ok I guess Gilgamesh used infinite NPs against Lancelot too.
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>>161323675
It's okay, Shirou can sit on his lap.
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>>161323251
>Her bond 5 line says to prepare yourself since she won't let go of you at all
There is no escape.
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>>161323456
better tier list

Kiara> BB> Meltryris> Gilgamesh> Arquedo> Karna> Achilles = Holy Grass Amakusa> Berserker> Saver = Black Saber = Gawainne = Siegfried> Sea Jill = F 15 Lancelot = Written Rider = Apo Vlad> Black Cherry Blossoms ≧ Lancer = Mode red> Iskandar> Archer = Kojiro = Lancelot = Lu cloth> Dilmdd = Drake = Astrufo ≥ Vlado III = Jeanne> Robin Hood> Caster = nursery rhyme> Aoko> Neru> Grant> Jewel sword rin = Bazette ≧ Shujiro> 100 Hasan > Akiba> "Both ceremonies" = Ciel = Hasan = Jill = Waka Oko> Urrrrrrrrr> Araya = Kanzaki = Kusaki> Fujino = Rin = Sword Shuji> Kenji> Shiki = Wakan Feng = Kenneth> Henry>玄 根 = 羊 士 郎> 橙 子 = ロ ア> expression = 硯 硯 ≧ Aruba = Liz> Ariyoshi = Time> Karen ≧ Maiya> Four Seasons = Shion = Mouth Tears Man> Nanaya = Satsuki = Shojo Figure> Riteo = Kusuro> Night ≧ Iris ≧ Sakura> Dead = Remnant> Misa Night> Fresh Flower> Shinji> Dragon Fist ≧ Carcass
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>>161323843
>Lancelot a target who was dodgin on a figher jet the whole time
>Heracles who had to stay still in one spot because Gil was targeting Ilya
Yeah, these feats are totally the same.
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>>161323748

>210 rolls

Pretty sure that's mathematically impossible (You)
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>>161323843
You're literally retarded in a way that can't be argued against. Accept reality.
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>>161323773
how I eat food?
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Rin feels like a poor man's Jeanne Alter.

>>161323773
Nowhere yet. Maps are all shit.
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>>161323628
Please don't ignore me
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>>161323923
It's not, actually. Since the gacha isn't a finite source and everything is percentage based, you can roll any number of times and still not get a gold servant if you're unlucky enough.
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>>161323456
>Shituria
>Gilgamesh
>Cu
>Memekles
HAHAHAHA no, let me fix that for you

Solomon
King Hassan
Lion King
Cu Alter
Ozymandias
Nursery Rhyme
LoD Vlad
Alcides
Lancelot
Scathach
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>>161323997
>No Ishtar
Fuck off.
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>>161323997
Scathach above Lancelot and you need at least three spaces to denote the power gap.
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>>161323972
In what way?
Jannu can't even give crit damage to others
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>>161323251
Well, Guda is now the object of affection for a Divine Spirit that is only two or three steps down from the level of bitch crazy that Artemis is on. We all saw how that worked out for Orion. Poor Guda.
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H-hayai!
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>>161323456
That's just your list

I'd trust the broken English Japanese fan list over that, but at least you tried.
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>>161323997
>Cu Alter
>Cu not being nerfed is stronger than Cu

Did he lose his mind or did he never have one to begin with?
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>>161323819
That's pretty cool. It was sad seeing him get shafted in every route in F/SN.

>>161323997
Is Lion King stronger than Arturia? Was she really better of not taking that sword?

Also I thought NR was extremely weak.
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>>161323925
>tries to use hyperbole
>gets shut down
>y-you are retarded
Accept the reality that the max Gilgamesh used was 22. That or accept Gilgamesh used infinite NPs 4 times in a row against Lancelot, your choice really.
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>>161324121
早い EOP-kun
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>>161324112
I want to see Ishtar and Medb fighting for Guda in fan-art or an event or some shit
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>>161324121
Do they drop only in the 40AP quest?
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>>161324162
I love when you can't actually refute a proper statement and choose to flat out ignore it, class shitposting skill >>161323918
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>>161324121
>need to rely on drop to LB CE
>short event
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>>161323997
>LoD Vlad
>btfo by Amakusa
>weakness is literally any Church Agents

Kek LoD is trash against some human, just like Gilgamemesh
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>>161323923
In statistics any bullshit is possible
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>>161324196
Medb is all about that Dog dick, though.
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>>161324112
>Being a beta faggot
Don't compare me to that bear, even if she turned me into one it wouldn't stop me from breeding her.
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>>161324158
Lion King isn't really a servant. Servant Arturia with the lance is about as strong as Arturia with Excalibur. Lion King only happens when she holds onto Rhon for long enough for her personality to be overwritten and her body to be basically highjacked by its full power.
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>>161324235
Is this your first event?
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>>161324158
Lion King is the strongest Arturia can ever get. She is peak Arturia, the absolute best Arturia.

>>161324048
>Scathach above Lancelot
Satan 2.
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Is there even a decent map to farm stockings? Its dumb as fuck if they didn't put one in.
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>>161324263
Bond CE and her profile shows that she wants Guda too
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>>161324098
3 turns Party buff. 1 turn invulnerability. 1 turn buster buff. 3 turns crit buff. Buster NP. Rin is a little more support oriented with her crit buff and AOE NP, but they feel alike anyway.
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>>161324283
Nope, I just have really bad luck and I got a CE drop only twice. I tought it was possible only in lvl 80-90 quests
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>>161324383
>attack you in interlude

Ok
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>>161324324
Crafted Nuclear Gae Bolg.
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>>161324243
>implying LoD Vlad used his full potential
He almost BTFO Achilles and turned him into his slave. He is near unbeatable unless you exploit his weaknesses. Amakusa himself is very good as he is equal in skill to Achilles who in turn is implied to be close or equal to Karna in skill.
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>>161324415
Every event map can drop them. Has been like this since day 1.
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>>161324324
>She is peak Arturia, the absolute best Arturia.
>can't even take down Altera
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>>161323903
>Gawain = Siegfried.
You know i rarely see these two get compared.
They do seem pretty even though.
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>>161324383
She'll fuck any man who's strong or who she likes enough. If she had to choose between mounting Guda or taking Cu's knot she'd take the knot 100 times out of 100.
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>>161324440
She wanted to be the master in your relationship, that's all.
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>>161324476
Near unbeatable unless you exploit his many, many weaknesses that are common knowledge to anyone in any civilized country?
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>>161324279
>>161324324
Oh I see. I don't know if I would call someone whose personality got overwritten powerful though.
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>>161324152
>Cu is as strong as Origin Servants
lol
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>>161323702
In F/SN, Cu was at his absolute weakest that he could possibly be - Kirei was a pretty shitty Master, and his fame in Japan was very low. In Ireland, had he been summoned there, he would have had access to his chariot, a fortress-type Noble Phantasm, and a few other boosts to skills/parameters. There's also the fact that he generally only gets summoned as Lancer, when he in fact has access to the full qualifications and Noble Phantasms for the Caster class as well. He also has his own Sword of Light, so even Saber wouldn't necessarily be out of the question - albeit, the Gae Bolg is more famed.

In the 5th War, he held off Gilgamesh longer than anyone else could have, despite Gilgamesh being specifically Anti-Hero. He had no difficulty with EMIYA even going easy, he almost killed Saber the first night (and would have, if not for Kirei), he would have had no problem with Regend or Medea, and allegedly his spear buffed with Rune Magic would have even given him a shot at Heracles. His deaths were to:

> Gilgamesh (lasted the longest of any Servant, including Lancelot and non-Avalon Arturia)
> Himself (and he stayed up for a while)
> The Shadow + Hassan (and the Shadow managed to kill Gilgamesh by itself)
> Fragarach (on purpose; and again, it took a long time to die)

>>161323793
Arturia has access to both Excalibur and Avalon. Excalibur is canonically the strongest Holy Sword, which makes it the single strongest weapon in the Saber class. The only thing close to it is Arondight, and the only thing stronger is EA, which is an Anti-World Noble Phantasm. With a decent Master, she has incredibly high parameters, which let her fight well while using it.

Avalon is the big curbstomp, though - infinite healing, plus the ability to hard-counter every offensive Noble Phantasm.
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>>161324476
>Amakusa himself is very good as he is equal in skill to Achilles

lol
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>>161324324
>rekt her in 2 turns with Mordred
lmao
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>>161324324
> Strongest Arturia can ever get.
> What is Grand Saber?
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>>161324406
If she had a single target NP, I'd consider her good. But she's too average at everything. What in the fuck were they thinking giving her a low damage AOE NP? Even Emiya does more damage in both NP and crit damage.
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What's the verdict on Ishtar in terms of lore? Can she beat top tier servants like IanceIot?
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Man what it they do a Divina Commedia event/chapter. It would be perfect for Fate, a great classic that canonically gathers heroes and characters from every time and place.
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>>161324498
Even Saber Alter could BTFO Altera. Pre Lion King Arturia BTFO both Ozy and Gilgamesh at the same time.

>>161324559
He is teleport tier speed. Just exploiting his weakness is not enough. You need to be able to keep up. Also he is capable of making a Vampire Servant army, he is one of the strongests Servants to date.
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>>161324431
>Interlude that happens before bond 5

>>161324520
Medb won't choose though, because her choice is all the men. She wants a harem
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>>161324773
Look her NP and think by yourself
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>>161324476
>Amakusa himself is very good as he is equal in skill to Achilles who in turn is implied to be close or equal to Karna in skill.
>jobbed to Manjew

>full potential
Doesn't matter because his weakness still exist
>“You are a vampire.Unfortunately,vampires must also have various weaknesses as compensation for their unmatched strength.Sunshine weakens them,and they
are weak against holy symbols.And—they are also weak against weapons meant for purification like Black Keys”

Kirei can beat him easily.
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>>161324773
>What's the verdict on Ishtar in terms of lore?

All pseudo servants are supposed to be powerful by nature. Stats and abilities are good. Although Gil and Enkidu still flipped her off pretty well in life, until she had her petty revenge.
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>>161324672
Excalibur is only stronger than any other weapon when it's being used against aliens though. Outside of that it's still incredibly strong as an A++ Anti-Fortress attack, but there are stronger NPs.
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>>161324737
King Hassan is Grand Saber.
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>>161324672
Saber had the shittiest master and was summoned in Japan as well. She still performed really well. He only managed to hold off Gil because he had the Protection Against Arrows ability. All in all I thought he was pretty underwhelming compared to big shots like Saber, Berserker, Archer and Gil.
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>Ishtar is planet buster
>Gilgamesh is galaxy buster
It's clear who's the strongest here.
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Why am I teaming up with Manjew in Amakusa's interlude?
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>>161324806
>He is teleport tier speed.
>Amakusa recite baptism and he was already unable to move by himself
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>>161315757
Jeanne Alter is cuter than expected, I want to grail ascend her.
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Well my first two 10 rolls were shit but I got her

(The one after this was shit too)
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>Ishtar is a woman
>Gilgamesh is a man
It's clear who's the strongest here.
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>>161325025
OOC garbage
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>>161324863
>Kirei can beat him easily.
Didn't know Kirei could keep up with teleport tier speeds. One punch and Kirei is over.
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>400 slots in the Gacha
>83 10k QP
>60 100 FP
>Six items that are actually necessary out of it
Jesus.
Fucking.
Christ.
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>>161325079
Ishtar, right? All of the strongest figures in Nasuverse are women.
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>>161324992
At that point Vlad was really damaged by being attacked by like 7 Servants at the same time, with 2 top tiers like Karna and Achilles included.
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It'ssomething/10
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>>161324925
There are much stronger NPs, but not within the Saber class. It's the strongest Holy Sword, not the strongest Noble Phantasm.

>>161324979
He is underwhelming compared to King Arthur (arguably the most famous fictional figure in the world), Heracles (the other contestant for that title), and Gilgamesh (the original hero from the oldest recorded myth). What else would you expect? He's leaps and bounds above EMIYA, though.
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>>161324976
Grand Assassin.
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>>161325098
>Didn't know Kirei could keep up with teleport tier speeds.
Kirei knows bajiquan, in TM that puts him automatically somewhere around divine spirit tier
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>>161324806
>teleport tier speed
Achilles was faster and Karna was only a step slower than Achilles.
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>>161324158
>I thought NR was extremely weak.
She is actually pretty powerful. Her main features as a servant are a berserker Herc 2.0 who is far harder to kill and erasing masters from existence.
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>>161325172
Tell that to Solomon
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>loli jannu's giggle
muh heartboner
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>>161325196
>He is underwhelming compared to King Arthur (arguably the most famous fictional figure in the world), Heracles (the other contestant for that title), and Gilgamesh (the original hero from the oldest recorded myth). What else would you expect? He's leaps and bounds above EMIYA, though.
I'm not saying he's bad. I just didn't expect him to be one of the best. I thought Emiya was really powerful. He can use so many NPs and is Gilgamest tier in UBW.
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>>161325196
Ah, right. I was confused since you mentioned EA, which isn't in the Saber class either.
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>>161324986
>Gilga is galaxy buster

This delusion
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>>161325347
I know, right? Gilfags are almost as delusional as those folks who think Lancelot can win.
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>>161325227
>Achilles was faster
They are actually on the same realm of speed, Achilles himself got speedblitzed.

>>161324158
>Also I thought NR was extremely weak
The only reason why you can even beat her is because she is playing with you and lets you go.
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>>161325095
When did we saw a loli Jeanne before for her to have an established character when she was like 8?
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>>161325317
>I thought Emiya was really powerful.
He really isn't. Most toptier heroes are stated to have no trouble with UBW while they obviously do with GOB.
I really hate the idea that EMIYA is good. His specific appeal is that he isn't you dweebs.
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>>161325308
Solomon is Olga crossdressing, why do you think they're never seen together?
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>>161324863
>>Kirei can beat him easily.

In the same way that any member of the Church can beat any DAA. No, it took a servant level church member to fully exploit his weakness here and destroy him. He's Dracula after all, something as strong as almost five servants. However the stronger he was as a vampire, the greater the weakness of a vampire he had within him, yet even then he noted that Amakusa's holy weapons were abnormal in ability or impossible for a human.

>Yes, what the youth said was certainly correct. A Church agent’s Black Keys were Conceptual Weapons strong enough to purify Dead Apostles.
>But the power of his Black Keys was far too extraordinary… no, abnormal.
>The youth quickly lifted the vampire up the stairs and dashed through the hallway while still holding him. Physical strength wasn’t an issue here. This was a clash of conviction and faith.
>So there was no way that this ‘unknown person’, who had been reduced to a vampire, could match this youth’s faith that was as hard as steel and as sharp as a sword.
>—His existence was being erased with just a few words. The Greater Grail that should have been in reach of his hand just earlier was getting further and further away before his eyes. That filled him with regret.
>“Do not pretend. Retribution for forgiveness, betrayal for trust, despair for hope, darkness for light, dark death for the living.”
>The youth’s dark and ageless eyes, together with the chant, stabbed into the vampire like a blade. It was an extraordinarily powerful Baptism Rite that wasn’t possible for a human.
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>>161325409
You really need to reread Apocrypha. No one ever gets speedblitzed in it.
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>>161325401
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>>161325442
What the difference between UBW and GOB? It's the same sword rain.

Also Emiya can trace so many different weapons. No way he isn't very powerful.
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>>161324158
NR is just weird. She is weak stat-wise (especially in Extra because Alice ain't exactly a top tier master so she had full E stats) but has utterly bullshit skills going on. It's hard to exactly pinpoint someone who, rather than a hero of legend, is the incarnation of fairy tale love itself.
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>>161325442
So much this. If you think about it, EMIYA lost hard to Cu and Saber and got almost fucked by Medusa.
Shirou also said while using UBW that if he was against anyone who could properly use his NP he would have lost, the only think it was good for is countering Gil.
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>>161325442
A one-armed EMIYA almost won the Extra grail war, beating Gawain with a top tier master
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>>161325528
>Lancelot
>Winning that fight
You didn't notice it was Waver's planning that let them win? He literally sets everything up for them to have the advantage. He even takes into account that a surprise attack might cause Gil to instinctively respond seriously and so has them walk straight up to him in a challenge.
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>>161325606
>NR is just weird. She is weak stat-wise (especially in Extra because Alice ain't exactly a top tier master so she had full E stats) but has utterly bullshit skills going on.

>She is weak stat-wise but has utterly bullshit skills going on.

>Every caster ever
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I really want to Grail George to 90, would I be wasting them too much?
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>>161325563
Ubw has to be manifested before going to acceptable speed and it drains mana reserves really fast
GoB is faster when UBW isn't manifested, cost far less, stronger and with more variety
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>>161325317
EMIYA is a big-dog-killing underdog. Statistically he ultimately doesn't amount to much, but his capacity for strategy and leveraging every inch of advantage for a mile means he can punch far above his weight.
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>>161325569
C-cute!
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>>161325740
Grail who you want anon, that's what they're there for.

I took both Scathachs to 100 no fucks given
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>>161325317
> Gil tier in UBW

He really isn't. Mostly because "Gil tier" has become something completely different in the 10+ years sincz the original VN was released, but also because from the start EMIYA was supposed to be bottom tier.
Gil wouldn't have fought against Archer the way he fought against Shirou. Chances are he'd have put on his armor and whipped his ass in seconds.
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>>161324158
Lion King is a divine spirit, she is far above any servant level.
NR just has shit so insanely broken (Jabberwocky, Nameless Forest and the the time loop thing) that defeating her would have been impossible if her master didn't outright said every single trick to defeat her.
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>>161325725
>taken out in a few minutes while nobody even took damage
lmao
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>>161325798
>grailing scathach
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>>161325563
>It's the same sword rain.
It isn't. Gil's much faster, much more mana efficient, and much more diverse in every way. UBW's also always ranked down, while Gil's isn't. Gil's also got very decent stats while EMIYA doesn't.
UBW is inferior in every single way unless the Reality Marble is activated.
>Also Emiya can trace so many different weapons.
His favorite weapons and endless experience with them, still gets rekt by nerfed Cu. He isn't powerful at all.
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>>161325837
second last stage
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>>161322128
Yep and with tickets.
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Guan yu 5 * when lads?
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>>161325729
Not Medea
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>>161325848
>Lancelot has never won a fight
>B-but look at this one time he was dragged kicking and screaming into teaming up against Gilgamesh while a strategic genius with foreknowledge of the future accounted for as many variables as possible in order to keep him from fucking up

Your point is literally that Lancelot might win in the most advantageous of situations, in a non-canon event, and afterward he STILL fucks it up even though Gilgamesh loses.

Fantastic.
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>>161325854
what's wrong with that
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>>161325317
Think of it this way:

Among Heroic Spirits, there are some who are very powerful, some who are weak. Someone like Karna is incredibly powerful, while someone like Cursed Arm Hassan is very limited. They both have uses of course, but there's a pretty clear power gap. One thing unites them all - they have a weakness of some kind. The thing that killed them in their legends.

Gilgamesh has the original version of every one of these. As a result, he can kill any Heroic Spirit. Even ones like Karna or Arturia, who should by all rights be more powerful than he is. On the reverse side, EMIYA is a blacksmith heroic spirit. He doesn't have access to the entire armory that Gilgamesh has, but while within the UBW reality marble, he can create the perfect counter to any of them. The only exception is Ea, which he can't even understand - and Ea, conveniently, is an Anti-World NP that can annihilate UBW if used. He just didn't do that, because he refused to take Shirou as being a credible threat.

EMIYA loses against other Heroic Spirits because they specialize in what they do. He puts up a good fight against Heracles for the same reason Gilgamesh is able to in the Berserker state, but had he been dealing with a non-berserk Heracles, it wouldn't have been close. He also stands a decent chance against other Heroic Spirits when given a decent master if he's able to deploy UBW, and has a plan in advance. That's what made him and Rin a good pair.
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>>161325740
nip tier list ranks george p high for grailing iirc
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>>161325528
>Event gave a grail
non canon bullshit
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>>161325229
>>161325409
>>161325606
I didn't think she was so powerful.
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>>161325952

to NP5? at least I thought that was the aim
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>>161326032
Like imagine EMIYA against Alcides. He'd have gotten destroyed in a second by a supersonic arrow.
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So how is lily alter?
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>more grails never
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>>161325569
I don't care what anyone says. There is no way this isn't Rin personality.
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This jeanne alter isn't the jeanne alter i love.
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>>161326003
>Lancelot has never won a fight
He won a dogfight.
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>>161326126
Cute, very cute.
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>anyone putting Nursery Rhyme on a powerlevel list
Like Pale Rider she's in the "???" class.
If you perform the story correctly you will reach the end of her tale, and if you try to go outside the story's bounds you get strangled and die like a bitch. It's not that she's "strong" so much as you have to win under her rules.
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>>161326041
The events don't necessarily happen when they're released in terms of timeline
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>>161326126
The cutest
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>>161326193
Now you're citing his momentary advantage and forgetting to mention the immediate aftermath of Lancelot getting blown out of the sky by a few axes?

At least pretend to be arguing in good faith, man. Find me a fight Lancelot won, not one where he looked like he might win, or that he ran away from.
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>>161326121
A single one most likely not. EMIYA still has Clairvoyance which does give him super perception within a certain range.
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>>161326032
Gil's ability to kill people like Karna and Herc is based entirely on his own personal treasure, Enkidu. It's the one thing that counters them completely.
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>>161326126
The cutest

I just wish if she was a little tsun
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>>161326042
Jabberwocky alone is at least as powerful as Heracles, and she has a dozen other comparably powerful abilities.
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>>161326193
True. Though he's even in win/lose ratio with Gilgamesh.
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>>161326198
>Like Pale Rider
Oh shit I forgot about him. Guess Scathach is out of the list.
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Can Lancelot KoH Eva?
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>>161326156
>>161325569
I'm with you anon, that's the definitely Rin right there.
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>>161325976

When we get Red Hare (Guan Yu) in Bablyon.
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>>161326198
Tell that to Cu and Nero when they teamed up against her and couldn't even get near. Rin had to use a CS just to escape.
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>>161326156
Wouldn't be the first time they were called basically the type of person. Ishtar was hinted to be tsundere before.
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>>161326346
He can KoH whatever you want him to
That's his whole deal
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Jeannu loli lines?


Man i hope Sakura will be smitten for (You) as well.
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Ciel with the Seventh Holy Scripture actually taking advantage of Roa's unsurpassed knowledge of magecraft to buff herself up further could kill LoD Vlad.
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>>161326418
>whatever you want him to
That's wrong.
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>>161325798
gib friend code
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>>161320863
to-na-ka-i
it means reindeer. Santa rider was saying the same.
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>>161326032
Can't Emiya just counter any Heroic Spirit with his countless weapons? Shirou with just Emiya's arm was able to defeat Saber Alter. That's a pretty good achievement.

>>161326121
Rho Aias.
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>>161326374
I'm not gonna lie I haven't saved a single quartz for him because deep down I feel like we will never get him
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Who're some lolis to pair loli Jannu with? Trying to make a team here.
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>Jannu Alter used to be a sweet loli but she eventually grew up and feels ashamed of how she used to be so she became an edgy chuuni tryhard
It all makes sense now
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>>161326438
I'd rather her love NotShirou, I want to see mashu and her talk about what to do with their senpais.
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>>161326385
>Non-canon garbage
No but seriously the Extra manga was an abomination even Type Moon pretends doesn't exist

The Jabberwocky is very powerful but in the game it is presented as a tough enemy that happens to be unkillable. That's its strength and its weakness, because all you need to kill it and make Nursery Rhyme almost worthless in direct combat is a vorpal blade. And among magi in a Holy Grail War, who make it a habit to know about and obtain obscure magical items, a vorpal blade isn't impossible to come across. An alchemist with the right materials can make one, presumably someone like EMIYA could recreate one, and someone with a lot of treasures like Siegfried or Gilgamesh would probably have several lying around.
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>>161326330
Not really, if you count that one (Saber, Deermud and Gilgamesh vs Lancelot) then Accel Zero is also counted, and Lancelot actually killed Gilgamesh in Accel Zero. So your loss really.

Lancelot is 2 - 1 against Gilgamesh.

>>161326272
>forgetting to mention the immediate aftermath
3 vs 1, that means Accel Zero outcome is counted as numbers game is irrelevant. Thank you, now Lancelot actually killed Gilgamesh while Gilgamesh can't kill Lancelot.
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I spent 300 quartz trying to get Rin and now I'm down to 700. That'll teach me to cheat on the servant I'm waiting for.
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>>161326542
Jack NR and Kuro.
Shuten does not count.
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>>161326542
Helena and Jack
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>>161326542
There aren't that many in the game, just use all of them

NR
Jack
Ilya
Kuro
Helena
Jannu Lily
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>>161326385
Running at her swinging a sword is not how a fairytale goes, anon.
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>>161326593
Gilgamesh was actually thinking about other things and enemies during the fight with Lancelot and was distracted. So by your logic Lancelot ganged up on Gilgamesh, and his win is discredited.

Why's your favorite servant so shitty, anon?
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>>161326593
Accel Zero doesn't count because it's not canon, and it wasn't 3 v 1. Diarmuid destroyed the JET and then left. Arturia wasn't fighting Lancelot, she was setting up to kill the tentacle monster and at best considered him an obstacle. Just keep hiding behind your meme servants excuses for his litany of failures.
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I really wanted one of the CEs.
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>>161326459
The only thing Lancelot can't KoH is an aircraft carrier.
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>>161326198
Pretty sure both are pretty powerful on their own. Also, the problem with NR is that you can't get a clue on how to "reach the end of her tale" if she doesn't says it herself.
For example, how are you supposed to know you have to write your name when she is already erasing you for existence without being able to recall shit? She let Hakuno go and only because of it she/he survived.
Same problem with Jabberwocky, no one could figure he is the Jabberwocky unless a servant had some skill like Scat or Fionn that lets them know things on the moment, but even then it also needs to be able to make the Vorpal Blade and have the materials to make it (which seem to be pretty rare), it is also kinda hard to make the thing when the monster is in-front you beating your ass.
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>3 tickets
>30 quartz
>160k fp
finally got 5 copies of George's CE
1 of waver's and Ishtar
this time the shop was nice to me.
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>>161326737
Nice civilization
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>>161326581
We have Nitocris for that.
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>>161326639
I'm not even a lolicon and I have them all except Jack. Such is life
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>>161326751
When you pose his retardation like that it really hammers in just how detached from reality Melvin is. He's not even operating high enough to be called functioning in the same way most humans are.

Thank you for enlightening me, anon. I won't reply to him anymore.
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>>161326810
Why not all 3 kouhai groups?
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>>161326737
I'll curse you!
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>these dogshit drop amounts

I have the apples but not exactly the free time
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>>161326737
Keep that Fragarach you'll need it for the Bazett-Lugh demiservant gacha
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Didn't get Rin, but this... entity came out.

Is it any good?
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So what's the final veredict on Rin Ishtar? Having an AoE meme NP doesn't look promising. Is she at least better than Arjuna or Tesla?
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>>161326772
>how are you supposed to know you have to write your name when she is already erasing you for existence without being able to recall shit?

That was easy, anon. Hakuno even says that they feel dumb for not thinking of the answer sooner. There's nothing trapping you in the RM, so you just leave and come back with it written on a piece of paper or on your arm.
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>>161326772
The real issue with Nursery Rhyme is that she won't always embody Alice in Wonderland. She changes based on her master. We got her as she is in GO because that's the only design we have for her. And even then, she has none of her Alice abilities. No forest, Queen's Glass Game, or Jabberwocky. She's a huge wildcard that can be broken based on the master and what abilities she gets, but you have to follow her rules to actually be successful with her. And even then, she's actually more of a manahog than she appears to be.
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>>161326673
The fuck kinda gay-ass fairytales have you beenr reading?
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>>161326582
EMIYA can't actually, neither can Rin, both were at Hakuno's side and none could do it. Rin only had the materials who were worth millions.
The only one who could was a girl specifically designed to be absolutely top-tier alchemist.
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>>161326710
Lancelot was actually thinking about other things and enemies during the fight with Gilgamesh and was distracted.

>>161326729
>Accel Zero doesn't count because it's not canon
>FGO is not canon
Should we now start the Zelretch shit?

>>161326729
>Diarmuid destroyed the JET and then left. Arturia wasn't fighting Lancelot
Waver, Deermud and Mashu weren't fighting Gilgamesh. They only distracted him and left.

Just keep hiding behind your meme servants excuses for his litany of failures, like losing to a human, twice.
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What the hell, not even an hour since I started and already 2 CE drops
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But who is Grand Order?
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>>161326974
It's cute, and that's what matters.
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>>161326974
Not really
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>>161326965
I have the apples and the free time but not exactly the infinite charge required on my phone to use the apples
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>>161326974
One of the worst 4*s in the game. Only Stheno and arguably Siegfried are worse
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>>161326126
OOC garbage version of Jeanne Alter, she's Alter in name alone

Why they decided to make her default art a scowl when she's constantly uguu shit is beyond me
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>>161327054
Look, dude.
Just because you replicate the overall flow of the sentence doesn't actually mean that you saying something which is incorrect is an argument against a correct thing that I said.

If I explain to you why the sky is blue, you turning around and saying the explanation back to me with the word blue replaced by hot pink doesn't start making sense.
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>>161327042
I refuse to believe it's harder to creater a Vorpal blade than Zelretch Jewel Sword
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>>161326974
Best tank for difficult content.
Saved me from a lot of bosses.
NP suck dicks though
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>>161327132

if you have the time why aren't you close to a power source? being anywhere else means you're not exactly free
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>>161327031
>she has none of her Alice abilities
She uses the forest on Valentine's actually.

>>161327013
The thing is they only figured out that after she let them go, there is no way to know you need to write your name when she first attacks and you already have no idea what your name is.
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>>161324986
When you pose his retardation like that it really hammers in just how detached from reality Gilfag is. He's not even operating high enough to be called functioning in the same way most humans are.

Thank you for enlightening me, anon. I won't reply to him anymore.
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>>161327007
She's meh. I'd put her barely above Arjuna if I had to resort to a "meme" list score. But everything she does can be performed better by someone else. Emiya does better crit damage, Arturia and Kuro for single target NP damage, and Gilgamesh does more AOE damage. No reason to use her unless you're a waifufag.
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>>161327007
She doesn't have a NP interlude.
Really that's annoying, for a while they released those along the servants, and then they just stopped. Leaving a whole bunch of characters on the COULD BE GOOD BUT NOT NOW tier. With that said, she does crit pretty damn hard with Independent Action A+that first skill I'm not sure of the name, so you can go with that.

Also that third skill takes a turn to trigger and I always forget to use it. That's going to take a while to get used to.
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>>161326965
I have the apples and the free time but not exactly the will to play over and over again the same shitty stages for those shit drops
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>>161327230
Cord isn't long enough for me to shitpost and play at the same time
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>>161326470
987 418 827
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>got more SSRs in GBF within 5 months than 4*s and 5*s in FGO after well over a year

I hope nobody here actually cashed for FGO.
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>>161327216
>Create a sword that is entirely fictional

or

>Create a sword that definitely existed, and is just a useless lump of crystal when its not wielded by an appropriate host. Structure isn't unearthly or anything
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>>161327150
>Only Stheno and arguably Siegfried are worse

Well, I have both of those at NP2, so I'll pretend this is an improvement.
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>>161320708
Colored

doing this in Illustrator is fucking shit
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>>161327247
Even then, that's just GO using the NR from Extra. We already know that she's supposed to be different with each master.
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Here's a retarded question. Is Ishtar actually Rin, like Zhuge Liang is El-Melloi II/Waver? I ask because there's a bunch of similarity, clearly, but from what I see of her my room lines she's full Ishtar. Is she just an expy of Rin or am I missing something?
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>>161327348
I did and I regret it
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>>161327216
Probably not harder, but just as rare. How can EMIYA trace something he has never seen?

>>161326673
Pretty sure there are plenty of fairy tales that involve swinging swords around anon.
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>>161326974
Watch it's anime.

https://mega.nz/#F!V9VGUQBY!ESSEkoGyGVS8NCMb_tXEHA
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>>161327286

someday it'll be Illya's time to shine... somehow, just upping her output isn't enough to cover that godawful NP gain
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>>161327326
added i'm 7.5

I hope you bought her figure
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>>161326058
No, NP1 is enough. I'll keep those quartz to roll Tiamat.
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I'll never doubt you again meme rolls.
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>>161327205
Pretending you have an argument doesn't mean you have one. The same shit you are saying can be said right back at you because it's not really an argument, it's you trying to save face by making shit up.

Fact of the matter is, Lancelot won the dogfight, argue otherwise and Accel Zero becomes a Lancelot win immediately as Gilgamesh win was also because he had numbers advantage. However you spin it, you lose, as always.
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>>161327383
She's not like Zhuge at all, you can understand that much even before the event happened with Waver saying he was the exception to the rule.

She's mostly Ishtar for sure
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>>161327031
>she's actually more of a manahog
A girl with no mana at all was her master in Extra though.
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>>161327247
Yes, first of all why the fuck would the Master accompany the Servant close enough to be caught in the RM at all, and secondly even if they're dumb enough to do that, the Servant isn't affected and the RM doesn't trap you inside, so the Servant can usher you out and you can figure it out after.
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>>161327456
meme rolls are a double edged sword, I do get 5* while memerolling but never the one on rate up
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>>161327509
And instead of mana, it was using Alice's soul to fuel her. She was rapidly fading out of existence the more time went on.
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>>161327415
Blessed be your roll anon.
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>>161327423
Waiting for the Alter one
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>>161327205
>If I explain to you why the sky is blue, you turning around and saying the explanation back to me with the word blue replaced by hot pink doesn't start making sense.
Problem is you said the sky was red and then pretend it's correct when another person said the sky was yellow.
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>>161327456
Take good care of her.
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>>161327494
What I mean to ask is if she's any "Rin" at all, or if it's just the design's similar. Is she as much Rin as Nero is Artoria?
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>>161327621
The sky can be both of those things though. It can also be purple or orange.
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>>161327473
"Lancelot winning the dogfight" is fucking meaningless because it's a snapshot portion of a battle rather than the actual outcome of the battle. You're selecting the part where Lancelot did good and ignoring the part where he fucking lost. You might as well say Gilgamesh won against Shirou because until Shirou used UBW he clearly had the advantage.
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>>161327645
She gets flustered like Rin
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>>161327375
graphic design? Why
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>>161327375
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>>161327383
It's totally Ishtar, only that Ishtar and Rin are pretty fucking similar as personality
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>>161327368
Stheno is a good divine support.

Levelling her is a bothersome, though.
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>>161327806
Got it, thank you.
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>>161327543
Some else telling the name doesn't works, the person himself has to recall it somehow.

>>161327379
That much is true, but the only NR we know is Wonderland NR so that's obviously what people mean when they mention her
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>>161327597
Only because she didn't had mana, if NR was that mana expensive, her soul would have been consumed in the first round.
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>>161327645
It's Ishtar inside Rin's body. That's all. Zhuge possessed Waver but instead of taking control it left all the work to Waver. Ishtar didn't do this and is actively controlling her body.

Their personalities are very similar to the point you could say this is Rin, but at the end of the day it's Ishtar, not Rin. Only thing left of Rin is her body.
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Somebady has all the Ishtar art? From what I'm seeing they seems quite similar
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>>161327703
>"Lancelot winning the dogfight" is fucking meaningless because it's a snapshot portion of a battle rather than the actual outcome of the battle.
The dogfight was over the moment Gilgamesh ship was destroyed. Gilgamesh came back for more when Lancelot was going against Saber now, and he had help from Deermud on top of it. It was cheap shot from the back against an enemy who was fighting 2 opponents.

>You're selecting the part where Lancelot did good and ignoring the part where he fucking lost.
Same as you trying to deny how Lancelot killed Gilgamesh in Accel Zero. And it's not even the same as Lancelot fight with Gilgamesh was over by the time Gilgamesh came back to hit Lancelot from behind.
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>>161327740
I'm studying 3D Modelling, animation, video games and interactive interfaces, but they teach drawing too. I wish I knew how to draw by myself
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>>161327607
Oh you're that guy. That reminds me to see how badly plum fucked up.
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>>161327054
You annoyed me enough to post spoilers.

>Archer lures Lancelot into the arena, intending to trick him into the Fuyuki simulation to trap him inside.
>Gudako follows Archer and Lancelot tunnelvisions her again, forcing Archer to activate it and bring all three inside to save Guda.
>Guda and Archer wind up on a rooftop while Lancelot is on the bridge, Archer sniping at Lancelot from afar and sending him into cover.
>Lancelot breaks into a police station, stealing weapons and a police cruiser before busting out and driving at supersonic speeds towards Emiya, sniping his ear off with a pistol and nearly killing Gudako before Emiya takes the shot for her.
>Emiya fires Hrunting behind Lancelot, forcing him to take a set path towards him to avoid the arrow, them driving straight up the side of the skyscraper.
>When he reaches the top Emiya is waiting with Caladbolg ready, and fires it so Lancelot is caught helpless between both arrows.
>Lancelot grabs Hrunting at the last second and throws it into Caladbolg, detonating it just far away enough to let him survive and get tossed to the far rooftop, where he activates his Vulcan.
>Emiya activates Rho Aias and barely survives the onslaught, then pushes Gudako off the rooftop so she falls out of the simulation and is safe.
>Emiya then drags Lancelot into UBW and spams weapons at Lancelot, who draws Arondight and bats them away effortlessly. This buys Emiya enough time to trace Excalibur as best as he can, frying out all his nerves in the process and Excaliblasting Lancelot.
>Lancelot's left side of his body is completely annihilated, but he's still barely alive and finally broken from Mephisto's spell. Emiya dies after tracing Excalibur and disappears.
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>>161327353
Refresh my memory, how did they realized they had to use a fictional sword to defeat Jabberwocky?
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>>161327494
Its like if your body was stolen and possessed by someone, as you're forced to watch them pilot it.

Except they're basically the same as you anyway, so its not like you end up doing much differently.
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>>161327857
I'm not saying the Servant tells you your name, I'm saying they realise something's wrong, they get the fuck out of there, and then between the Master and Servant they both realise you need to write your name somewhere.
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>>161327949
>Lancelot fight with Gilgamesh was over by the time Gilgamesh came back to hit Lancelot from behind.

Apparently it wasn't, genius.

If it was then Gilgamesh wouldn't have been able to come the fuck back and hit Lancelot from behind, would he?
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>>161327806
>>161327880
These are conflicting answers. Totally Ishtar is not the same as Rin's body possessed by Ishtar. It's either similar but not Rin, or it is Rin but overwritten with Ishtar.
It's probably autistic to want to know which of the two it is, but none the less I'm retarded and would like to know.
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>>161327806
I still don't get how Rin and a genocidal whore deity can be similar.
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>>161327968
>Gudako tracks down Mashu who has been taken captive by Mephistopheles and gets captured as well. Lancelot comes to save her but is crippled too much to fight, and is caught in Meph's trap.
>Emiya turns out to be alive, saved by the arena's system to prevent combatants from dying, and uses the last of his energy to free Lancelot, who decapitates Meph.
>Lancelot bends his knee to Gudako and apologizes for betraying her before dying and disappearing.

LANCELOT WINS, EMIYA SURVIVES.

I'll post it on Christmas or something. Happy Holidays.
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>>161328001
Read a book in the library, and then Alice blurted out the answer.
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>>161327968
Post the entire thing already.
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>>161326974
He's an awesome tank. Very useful for raids and the infrequent challenging fight. I wouldn't have managed to beat the last fight of the Nero festival pre-nerf without him.
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>>161327880

So instead of giving her her own actual personality,she's basically just a Rin clone?
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>>161328052
Kinda hard when you have things like Jabberwocky trying to kill you.
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>>161326624
>shuten
>not a loli
When will this meme end?
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>>161328075
They are both saying the same thing. Ishtar took control of Rin's body and it just so happens they both have very similar personalities to the point you can barely distinguish them.
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>People were upset with the final art of Jeanne
Based tears. Good thing it wasn't pandering. It looks great to me.
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>>161327949
>cheapshot
>teaming up with one of the best strategic minds of the nasuverse and 3 other servants, while you're drinking isn't cheap
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>>161328061
>If it was then Gilgamesh wouldn't have been able to come the fuck back and hit Lancelot from behind, would he?
>A dogfight, or dog fight, is an aerial battle between fighter aircraft, conducted at close range.
Gilgamesh came back after a while, not immediately too.
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>>161328131
Did she ever pull out Jabberwocky and her RM at the same time? Or use Jabberwocky for anything but defense?
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>>161328097
Is the library the most powerful thing against a servant?
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>>161328152
My dick didn't instantly spring up for her so I know she's not a loli form that alone.
Took a bit more time but eventually it woke up
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>>161328159
Okay, so, just to make certain, it is Rin's body for sure then? Not just a Rin look alike, but actually Rin?
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>>161328152
She was an old hag when Kintoki's mom was a baby.
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>>161328209
Second-most, after plain high school students
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>>161328214
>his dick didn't instantly spring up from Yuuki

>>161328240
Loli is a body type.
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>>161327216
>I refuse to believe it's harder to creater a Vorpal blade than Zelretch Jewel Sword

Do you even know how Shirou's powers work? He needs to see the actual thing.
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>>161327968
I'm waiting for you my friend.
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>>161328209
kek, extra in a nutshell
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>>161328239
Yes. It's Rin's body.
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>>161327968
>Taigafag annoyed at Gilgamesh getting BTFO
Saving for future uses, thanks for confirming you were Gilfag once again.
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>>161328174
Not to mention the selective logic behind giving Lancelot a pass for losing over and over due to his own personality flaws yet trying to credit Lancelot for a win where Gilgamesh was clearly not trying or giving much of a fuck.

If Lancelot didn't want to fight Mashu, Gilgamesh didn't try seriously to fight Lancelot.

If we're allowed to ignore Lancelot's grievous flaws and pretend that he will flawlessly fight literally ever, then we have to compare him solely to Serious Gilgamesh, who will crush him.
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>>161328272
>saw art
>not instantly hard
>hear voice
>*twitch*

I didn't say how long it took on purpose
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>>161328272
It really isn't.
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>>161327968
Where is this come from?
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>>161328323
Understood. Thank you.
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>>161328113
Pretty much. Though you can't blame DW or whoever wrote her character in FGO. This was already decided by Nasu when he wrote CCC.
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>>161328203
She beat down Nero and Cu with it, so yes, but Alice wanted mainly to play so it is not like they were trying to kill them fast or anything.
Also, NR is the RM in itself.
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>>161328326
>HAVING LANCELOT WIN IN YOUR STORY MAKES YOU A GILFAG
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>>161328369
It really is.
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>>161328252
This skinny piece of shit asian teenager is fucking mythological hot heroes and goddesses and you're basically stupid.
CLICK HERE TO KNOW HOW TO DO
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>Ishtar has set her sights on Guda
are they gonna be ok?
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>>161328326
>One of your favorite pieces of shittalking is about how the Taigafag is supposedly a biased Gilfag and Lancelot will lose to some bullshit to make Emiya win
>They post that it doesn't happen and Emiya loses.
Yeah go ahead and save it I guess, don't know what you expect to do with it.
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>>161328421
In the Extra manga which isn't canon, and yes, but being around her doesn't mean that you will constantly forget your name. It only happens in the Nameless Forest when she sets it up, which is shattered once you say your own name. It doesn't trap you in it, Jabberwocky is never used for offensive purposes, and it's easy to get around.
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>>161328369
>I may look like a child but I am in fact 400 years old

It's a body type newfag
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So Rin would have become a supervillain and tried to kill Shirou if he survived and never fucked her?
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>Always do 3 singles per gacha
>Second one is this
Nice. And I even got a Jeanne and Helena yesterday. This is looking like my week. I'm all out of quartz unfortunately.
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>>161328506
She isn't half bad as I excepted her to be, also she talks pretty carefree like Rin.
I like her.
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>>161328556
Good thing there isn't a single route of Fate/Stay Night where Shirou didn't have a sexual situation involving Rin in some fashion.

I still don't get why he had a vision of Rin's lewd defenseless anus while Rider was sucking him off.
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>>161328113
>So instead of giving her her own actual personality

>Was hinted to be quite similar to Rin since CCC

Go as far back in time as you want, you'll see some of the same types of people throughout the ages.
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>>161328537
>Jabberwocky is never used for offensive purposes
He is used in the game as well though. Hakuno can decide to run or fight it, if he/she runs NR lets him/her go, otherwise is automatic game over unless you have a high level Nero at that point which can defeat it in gameplay but the game still has Hakuno being blocked and with the need of defeating Jabberwocky to continue.
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>>161328506
No they are not. Being an object of desire for a Divine Spirit means you are eternally under their watch across time and space unless they get tired of you. The only way it doesn't fuck you over is if you can wrap them around your finger or challenge them in some way, like how Gil and Enkidu were able to tell her to fuck off because they were too cool for gods. Even then that didn't end splendidly for them.
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>>161328632
Who did you get?
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>CE's images still not datamined
What's taking so long?
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>>161328753
>Even then that didn't end splendidly for them.
Only because Endiku went so far in rebuking her that he essentially committed their version of blasphemy.

I think he threw a piece of meat at her and called her a bitch or something.
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>>161328174
I never said the contrary. I only argued Lancelot won the dogfight, this idiot just had to come up and make things worse for him.

>>161328339
>Gilgamesh didn't try seriously to fight Lancelot.
Problem is Lancelot wasn't trying either, he didn't even gave enough of a shit to actually confirm whatever happened to the golden jobber. He outright ignored Gilgamesh in the middle of the fight, and by the time Lancelot took Gilgamesh out, Gilgamesh had gone serious.

>Of course, even for Archer, boasting an extraordinary amount of pride, this outrage was an inexcusable disdain.
>“Have you no control? Mad dog!”
>Archer cursed as he accelerated Vimana and soon approached Berserker’s back, close enough that he could kill him for certain. There was now so little distance between them that the opponent would never be able to evade the barrage of Noble Phantasms from Gate of Babylon regardless of his transcendent mobility – however, this decision backfired on him.
>From the underside of the F15's body, scorching fireballs, like will-o'-the-wisps, slowly scattered in succession, washing over the nose of the trailing Vimana.
>“What!?”

>Serious Gilgamesh, who will crush him
Too bad, Arondight deflects Enuma Elish, KoH makes Lancelot immune to GoB. Still not crushing anyone, Giltard.
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>>161328735
Nero is so super easy mode in Extra that it's insane.
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>>161328632
Nice Tyler Durden. One of my favorite berserkers and was hoping I'd get this eventually.

>>161328819
Sorry was doing the event and forgot about it.
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>>161328853
Too bad, Enuma Elish destroys Lancelot. GoB makes Gilgamesh unassailable for someone as weak as Lancelot. Still gets crushed, Lancakek.
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>>161328735
Yes, but the point that I was making is that nothing about the Nameless Forest traps you inside, and the counterpoint to that was Jabberwocky attacking you. If it just lets you go if you run, there's literally no obstacle to your Servant picking you up and running, and that's assuming NR breaks the rules of her own fairy tale and uses Jabberwocky and Nameless Forest at once.
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>>161328850
>Enkidu tears off the Bull's right thigh and throws it in Ishtar's face, saying, "If I could lay my hands on you, it is this I should do to you, and lash your entrails to your side."
Basically threw a bull leg in her face and said he'd disembowel her if he could manage it, at least in myth. Unsure how exactly it went down in Nasu's version.
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>>161328379
It's the Taigafag who wrote the Cu versus Achilles fanfic.
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>>161328853
>Arondight deflects Enuma Elish,
Foxtail confirmed you can't deflect swordbeams, you can only split them, and the one defending will still be hit by it partially. Without an extremely good defensive ability or the help of a very talented master, you still won't come out of it in one piece. And since you always deride Kariya for being a shitty master, and Lancelot has no ability to increase his own durability beyond the A-level he's at with Arondight, he's fucked.
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>>161328506
She is unexpectedly a nice person.
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>>161328753
>The only way it doesn't fuck you over is if you can wrap them around your finger
in other words, the dick
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>tfw we'll never get Wada's Nameless or Atilla
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>>161327968
For what it's worth, I'd love to see Lancelot drive a car up a building.
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>>161329086
>the dick
>implying
I'm making Ishtar gay and there's nothing you can do to stop me. The fatal flaw in her plan was possessing a bisexual girl.
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>>161328969
Enuma Elish gets deflected by Arondight just like how King Hassan deflected full power Galatine.

>GoB makes Gilgamesh unassailable
Only as long as Lancelot doesn't close the gap or he doesn't throw a NP that can outright kill Memegamesh :^)
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>>161328753
>Being an object of desire for a Divine Spirit means you are eternally under their watch across time and space unless they get tired of you
How is that bad? I would love to be loved by that beauty for all eternity.
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>>161328980
She has no rules to follow, where do you get this from?
Jabberwocky is faster and stronger than normal servants anyway, it is like trying to escape from Herk like that. It will be a very hard deal unless the master lets you go.
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>>161329113
>wanting more wadashit
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>>161329113
I'm still disappointed our christmas welfare isn't loli Altera. We could have had the event be teaching her about how presents and KFC are good civilization. They gave us the wrong loli.
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>>161329194
>Close the gap
Nice headcanon.
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>>161329185
there's at least two people in chaldea capable of giving Gudako a dick
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>>161329230
>not wanting more based wada
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>Nero CE is still the only limited CE in the rare prism shop
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>>161329194
>Melvin was autistic enough to go into Microsoft Paint and do this
I don't have a man smug or red enough
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>>161329221
>loved by that beauty for all eternity
Did you miss the part about how all of Ishtar's lovers met horrible, gruesome fates? There's a reason Gilgamesh refuses her.
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>comparing regular servants to grands
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>>161329227
She follows the rules of the games she plays, anon. She just wants to play, not to win. She sets Jabberwocky on you as one part of the game, and then uses the forest for the part after that. The two parts don't overlap.
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>>161329268
Hell, once we finally get Merlin in the gacha we'll have a guy who canonically has given a friend a futa cock once already.
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>>161329253
Even as a loli she's Hakuno's Altera though. Do you really want her to be part of the justified cuck memes?
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>>161329284
dust your figures nigga

>inb4 dusty hag ass
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>>161329268
Who?
Because they might get dicked by tentacles instead.
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>>161329336
>Did you miss the part about how all of Ishtar's lovers met horrible, gruesome fates?
That's probably just hearsay. She's a divine spirit. Why would anyone she loves suffer?
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>>161329358
That's Alice not NR, NR was constantly telling Alice to shut up because she was fucking up their victory.
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>>161328926
Is he worth something if I have Herk already ?
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>>161329040
>Foxtail confirmed you can't deflect swordbeams, you can only split them
That's when you don't have enough durability to get it all out of the way. Gawain deflected the entirety of Brahmastra and King Hassan also deflected all of Galatine.

>beyond the A-level he's at with Arondight
He has A without Arondight, EX with it. Also armor and doubled saving throws. And EA with reduced damage failed to kill Shirou and C END Saber.
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This is a shit event.
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>>161329452
Scathach

Tamamo
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>>161329185
Now this man knows his priorities.

>>161329471
They are both nearly identical. Its pretty much based off of who you like more as a character.
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>>161329456
>Hearsay
>The horse cock she fucked lost his freedom and became a servant of humans
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>>161329485
Just think of it as something to tide you over until Babylon happens in two and a half weeks.
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>>161329475
>And EA with reduced damage failed to kill Shirou and C END Saber.
You say that as if not killing them isn't the point of reducing the fucking damage
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>>161329471
he's worth a rare prism at least
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>>161329456
Look to Utnapishtim. He got immortality from the gods, but he can't leave his hiding place. In Nasuverse, he turned into a plant-man hybrid. The gods of Gil's age have a weird way of showing favor and affection.
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Senpai, don't forget your login bonus.
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>>161329398
The Altera in GO isn't the same Altera that exists in the Moon Cell. Just turn the GO Altera into a loli and we're good.
>>161329452
Have Gilles and Doctor Pepper collaborate on installing tentacle rape dicks on Guda. They'd totally be able to do it.
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>>161329475
>EX with it.
That is not how that works.
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>do a dick 10 roll
>get a potatonigger, Saber of Shitposting, and Herc

What does it mean?
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>>161329471
Herc plays the survival game
Beo does more NP damage
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>>161329608
Thought you meant mooncell loli Altera. Not sure how you'd swing an Earth Altera Lily, but then again Jeanne Alter Lily shouldn't have been a thing on the table either, so anything is possible.
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lancelot without arondight or mad enhancement has Cs at best, why would he be anything but a useless jobber?
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>>161329676
And even then, that's mostly because Beo got an NP interlude. If Grailed, I'd hate Herc 9 times out of 10 over Beo. Beo is cool though.
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>>161329475
Gawain only bulstered his defense big time and deflected enough of it that he could barely survive
>>
Last single roll blessings
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>>161329608
Gilles is better at removing appendages than adding them, and Pepperoni is good so he wouldn't even try it in the first place.
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So where do different characters fall on this scale, anyways?

> 0
Shirou
> 1
Saber
> 2
Medusa
> 3
Rin
> 4
Touko
> 5
Astolfo
> 6
(You)
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>>161329772
Nice
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>>161329040
>Arondight infinite durability + Overload + doubled saving throws + A END + ranked up END + armor sturdier than Saber's
Even if you pretend Arondight with its infinite durability can't deflect Enuma Elish just like King Hassan deflected Galatine (and pretend Galatine is anywhere near as good as Arondight), Lancelot on his own can stack so much shit he won't end up taking any damage at all.
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>>161329564
Who?

>>161329592
He probably angered her or something. If someone truly loves you I can't imagine them actually inflicting torture on you.
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>>161329790
>>>/y/
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>see someone named Nerofag in support list
>hasn't maxed his nero's skills
>formalcraft instead of halloween maid, or bond farming CEs
Meanwhile I have my lvl 90 10/10/10 Nero and I'm a Tamamofag. Step it up, fampai.
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>Snax already has Ishtar at level 90, equipped with LB'ed Amakusa CE, NP level 3 and skills over halfway upgraded
MOTHERFUCKER
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>>161329564
Who?

>>161329592
He probably angered her or something. If someone truly loves you I can't imagine them actually inflicting torture on you.
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>>161329790
>> 0
>Shirou
Shirou is 1 or 2. He imagined himself on Cu's lap. Plus Kotomine.
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>>161329935
Is that you standing bewildered as Snax ascends?
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>>161329990
> bros = gay
This is why (You) are a 6.
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I guess they're not adding normal Shirou anymore

The fact that Ishtar is all over Guda makes me think Parvati will be to, ie Shirou won't be in since it'd be awkward
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>log in bonus and 5 extra quartz
>still nothing

Guess my last proper chance is when tickets reset
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>>161329571
Those things are C END and below E END. Nowhere near close to Lancelot.

>>161329765
Gawain had an inferior sword so he needed to stack all those buffs as without them it would get fucked.

Arondight has infinite durability so it should have no problem dealing with shit like King Hassan did to Galatine or like Gawain did to Brahmatra.
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>>161330140
The durability of the sword isn't part of the equation. The sword survived perfectly fine.
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>>161330005
yes
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>already rolled half of everything I've got and got nothing
I hate gacha. I'll never understand people who actually want to roll it and find gacha systems fun. All they ever do in any game is make me not want to even try to get things.
Gacha is bad civilization.
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>>161330190
>The durability of the sword isn't part of the equation
It is, ask King Hassan and Gawain himself against Brahmastra. Enough durability and they can deflect the entirety of the attack.
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>>161330062
>Shirou will be the series' first legitimate cuckold
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>>161329895
>>161329974
An horse, the actual horse
In the Epic Gilgamesh says it's Ishtar's love for the horse the cause that now they're tamed
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>>161330335
> not Saber
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>>161330062
Just make him Fate-route Shirou. Problem solved.
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>>161330335
I don't think it's really cuckholding when a version of a girl you knew from a different world line and possessed by a literal god is into somebody else. It's neither the same mind nor body as the one you actually established a relationship with.
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>>161327348
I did it, and I'm beyond saved in this hell.
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>>161330335
>forgetting Arthur, western mythology's most famous cuckold
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>>161330524
>>161330524
>>161330524
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>>161330425
She also fucked over lions, apparently, which means she took sharp barbed lion cock. Ishtar must be a huge M freak to be into stuff like that.
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>>161327348
I did a while ago and I got everyone I wanted, so I'm happy.

I don't care about the amount of SSRs I have, as long as I have the ones I care about. I could have 20 SSRs but if none of them are the ones I want, I would be unhappy.
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>>161329676
>Herk NP2

welp, I'm gonna stick with SEKAI DE ICHIBAN
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>>161330601
Hey, Rin fucked a pig. I guess they are similar.
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>>161330425
>Ishtar will get good horse/beast porn but Sakura gets nothing good
why is this allowed
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>>161330335
King Arthur shows up at the very beginning of the very first installment in the franchise. And in case you didn't know, King Arthur's wife getting shagged by someone other than Arthur is one of the things King Arthur is most famous for.
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>>161330465
Why would she be a cuckold? Everyone loves her. She's hard to get.
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>>161330673
In case you didn't know, Arthur (just like Arturia) is loved and lusted after everyone. So chances are like he friendzoned Guinevere and she had to settle for Lancelot's Dick.

Even his son Mordred wants to fuck him for real. Pendragons are sex gods.
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>>161329895
They don't do it on purpose. Shit just happens to those they favor just because they favor them.
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I dont want Rin, is it worth it for me to roll on this event store?
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>>161330425
>An horse, the actual horse
Wtf? Why even do that? You're a goddess. You can do almost anything and you decide to take a horsedick?? Wtf Ishtar?
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>>161332932
She's a deity but she's also still a woman.
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