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Join a Corp Edition.

Permalink: http://orph.link/eog

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX?
Yes of course!

>I just started, what should I do?
Get a referral from someone to get free SP, beg for it here if you have.
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Now:
>ASCENSION DEPLOYED http://updates.eveonline.com/date/2016-11-15/
>EVE IS NOW F2P GOY
>Rewards, Gnosis, Goggles and a new destroyer, don't forget to redeem it.


Future:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov ??: http://updates.eveonline.com/coming/fall/ click through for devblog links on F2P and LINKS, plus teasers for rorqual reworks, industry structures, visual updates AND also free stuff, plus a new ship


Past:
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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1rst for amarr.
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Daily reminder that the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better than the moros in every field of the world
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>>161208449
If only those Moros pilots could fly the Naglfar.
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I can now (I think) competently fly Caldari T1 battleships with T2 fit.

What should I do to make money with them?
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If I'm only interested in running L3/4 security missions, is it fine if I just stick to SoE?

I'm getting kinda tired of juggling all these different agents in order to avoid a drop in standings.
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>>161208571
Incursions
C3 with sneks if you also have good drone skills

>(I think)
this however smells like you actually can't
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>>161208713

Oh sorry I should have said T2 missile stuff, not the guns.
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Daily reminder that neuts answered webifiers are ewar
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>>161208762
meh for pve
unless you're gonna use a golem
raven navy issue is ok but still not great
snek needs good drone skills to get acceptable clear times in wormholes and its not accepted in incursions
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mfw I picked Minmatar in SoE Dagan and I am Minmatar
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Which are the best small projectile guns for close range? I'm not sure whether to go with 125mm, 150mm, or 200mm autocannons.
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>>161209073
whatever fits.
200 generally the best
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first
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>>161208994

Sorry mate just went for dinner. I'm actually training for the snek atm. 2 days left on sentry V. After that I'm gonna train for the fighters? I've seen a lot online about using a gecko on it with ratting
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>>161210619
gecko is not a fighter, its a heavy drone with twice the bandwidth that uses no specialization skill and does omni damage
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>>161210694

Oh right. Got confused then cuz I was checking the skills of variants to see what would improve it. So only the heavy drone + interfacing will affect its damage?
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>>161210781
yes
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Is WH venture gas harvesting worth it for an alpha? I have saved up 20mil and I can probably buy the skill with a couple of days mining/mission running
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>>161211260
if you live, yes
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Reminder to make a new account if you need a GMs help with anything.
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>>161209557
cool skin for a shit battelship
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How do I fuck over my corporation of (mainly) hisec L4 mission runners?
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>>161212634
Kill their Faction Standing.
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>>161212338
Had an old account that needed a mission reset the other day, they did it in a few minutes
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Recently re subbed again and looking for a new Corp, anyone here from Altruism willing to tell me something about them?
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>>161213567
>anyone here from Altruism willing to tell me something about them?
hey, it's me! altruistic guy! go joing allout
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>>161213567

>Altruism
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>>161213826
>>161213787
Please explain this meme
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is mining in wormholes worth it?
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Yes for gas.
Yes for ratting on a subscribed account.
Yes for minerals on a subscribed account that lives in w-space.
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>>161214674
but what do you do with the minerals?
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>>161214874
Probably use them at your POS, since you live in the middle of nowhere.
Maybe look for a hi-sec wormhole, then take them to a trade hub.
It'll sell well, but getting back home might become hell on earth.
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/ss13g/ here:
Laugh derisively at our tremendous faggot.

>>161213873
pupper
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>>161215053
are the minerals better in high tier wormholes?
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>>161215198
youre as big of a faggot as he is
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Should I actually really not be doing wormhole relic and data sites on my t1 uncloakable frig? Every site has sleepers
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>>161215198
like you can talk, conno

breath plasma
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>>161215289
You're looking for pirate sites, not sleeper sites. Pirate sites only appear in C1-3 wormholes.
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>>161215232
All w-space is -1.0 sec, it's all as good.
That's why wormhole PI is so great.

It's only exploration sites that vary.
Those are tied to the system, not it's sec level.

>>161215289
You want C1/C2/C3 sites with Nullsec NPC faction names.
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>>161215347
>implying The Connoisseur plays the spess MUD
>implying The Connoisseur wouldn't roll a plasman
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>>161215489
>>implying The Connoisseur plays the spess MUD
He does.
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>>161215556
Wait seriously? Shit.
Well at least our game is older than yours.
What's the ckey to metagrudge him at?
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oneiros
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claymore
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caracal
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vexor
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Is subbing directly the cheapest way to get game time?
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It's not fair
How come their faction gets the prettiest ships AND most skins
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>>161208050
1 is there a /vg/ corp
2 if i want to grind enough isk to get a plex and make my character omega again, would it be easier to play my former-retail character, or would it be faster to make a new character from a different race? Im not sure if any one race has better alpha skills for making isk than the others
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>>161218461
>1
All-Out, but they no longer accept newfags because they're too elite

>2
what a retarded question kys
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can alpha account still use their ISK to gamble with? I remember there was a site you could bet on sports using isk.
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>>161218529
The only restriction is what skills you can use and half speed skill training
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>>161218461
white stag exit bag
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>care 4 kids in charge of transporting stuff
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>>161217840 That depends on how much your time is worth.
Assuming you earn minimum wage and buy at full price, you need to earn around 500 million ISK an hour to beat out spending real money.
If you buy through Steam through an underdeveloped 3rd World country (VPN, or whatever) you need to earn like 1.25 billion ISK an hour.
And of course, the figures get even more disgusting if you aren't straggling on minimum wage.
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>>161219631
retard
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>>161218461
>1 is there a /vg/ corp
Pupper Appreciation Station
>2 if i want to grind enough isk to get a plex and make my character omega again,
>would it be easier to play my former-retail character,
Yes, of course.
>or would it be faster to make a new character from a different race?
How could you possibly think that would be faster?

>Im not sure if any one race has better alpha skills for making isk than the others
For monkey making? No, not at all. For general play:
Caldari = Gallente > Minmatar > > > > > > > > > Amarr
...but even Amarr is manageable.

Protip:
You've got THREE (3) character slots per account.
That means 1 PLEX can give your 3 characters worth of Industry/PI/etc. plus Haulers/Spies/whatever.
Always always always multi-account train if one of your character slots is open and you want to level 2 dudes.
At the time it's as good as subbing 2 characters, but it's better in case you drop down to 1 PLEX a month.
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>>161219842
>Pupper Appreciation Station
lol no
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>unironically joining a redditchan corp
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How do I avoid this
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>it's another instalock svipul 5km from the gate episode!
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Have you tried not being degenerate?
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>>161219976
biomass yourself weeb
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>>161219842
i was under the impression that each race had different skills they were allowed to learn. If i play gallente but they can only learn mining skills or some shit, that would limit my gallente formerly-retail one. But I see that most of the skills alphas are allowed to learn are all equivalent.
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>>161219935
Wrong image. Can't find the one I meant to post. Never mind
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>cargo tengu
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>>161220042
Restricted to your race's ships, your race's weapon type, Missles or Drones, and your race's EWAR
The other skills are pretty much exactly the same for all Alpha
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autism/blogpost incoming

there are exactly 4 wormhole systems that are C1's with a hi-sec static, that have the right planet combination to create all P2's, as well as a minimum of 6 barren or temperate planets for advanced factories

after months of searching I've found one of them. now I just need friends or something...
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>friends
You mean alts
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>>161220323
>now I just need friends or something...
Alts or something. Also the POCOs.
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>>161220323
>after months of searching
took us 36 hours to find one of the two systems we wanted that existed in game when we moved.
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>>161220402
the pocos are all 0% pocos, which is awesome

but yeah I want to put up an astrahaus or a POS or something, but I'm worried about losing it to invaders, so friends (who can also profit) would be nice

the current residents have an astrahaus of their own,...it's a 5-man russian corp. I would join them but I highly doubt I can contact any of them let alone communiate.
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>>161220473
I only get in-game a few hours a week. I'm sure I could've found one if I dedicated an entire weekend to it.
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>>161211260

While you wait the however many hours it takes you to train all the skills to huff gas try buying a heron and fitting it for exploration. A mil and a half might do, and you can make insane dosh (for an alpha) in one of those. I started playing about 4 days ago and i'm ~150 mil from a plex just by running a heron around C1-3 WHs.
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I used to play EVE a long time ago, but stopped because I'm an unemployed loser who couldn't keep paying a sub, and had no reliable way of plexing every month.

Give it to me straight. Is it worth playing the game with the new Alpha state clones as F2P? They seem VERY restricted, but I've always wanted to play EVE again. I imagine just about every single corp and alliance refuses to let alphas join, like trial accounts.
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>>161220882
There's plenty of corps who will take alphas
If you're happy getting a lot of cheap frigates blown up then there's plenty for you to do
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>>161220882
>I imagine just about every single corp and alliance refuses to let alphas join, like trial accounts.

it's the opposite. corps LOVE alphas
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>>161220882
>unemployed loser
>no reliable way of plexing

But that's the whole point of being an unemployed loser, having time to do shit like farm plex. How could you not even do that?

Also you might as well load up your old sub, alpha will be the exact same experience
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>>161221027
I'm too unimaginative to come up with new ways to get lots of ISK, I have no access to the fountain goldmine of ratting (at least it was when I played), I have no ability at pvp, I'm extremely unlucky at exploration, and morally opposed to scamming.

The most ISK rewarding activity I was able to do was incursions, which I did do for a little while.
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So I fit a ceptor for wormholing relic sites ... do I understand it correctly that I cannot be stopped by a bubble and because I fit 2 warpstabs, I cannot really be tackled by a lone guy?
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>trading alt struggling with a mission for standings
>warp my fleeted main in to help
>get concorded for attacking the mission rats

What the fuck?
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>>161221341
My explorer killing astero has 2 scrams.
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>>161221341
An arazu can double scram you from 20+ km
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>>161217840
>yarp
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>>161221579
>>161221624

Damn, I just want to make some ISK to spend on PvP ships. Does that mean that if I am double scrammed, I have no chance to resist, or does it work like ECM and I have a chance to resist, since I have some stabs?
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>>161221724
just go mining
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>>161221724
Scrams are not chance based. You could try to jam them and escape but that would be about a 10% chance
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>>161221883
Oh well, thanks anyway.

One more question ... since the short range warp scram disables MWD aswell, but has only 2 strenght ... can I MWD with 2 stabs? Cause thats one way I see of MAYBE gtfo if someone invisible on dscan drops on me.
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So I just started the game and I get you do the career stuff, but after that is it just joining a corp and helping bros out with their goals and dreams?
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>>161222014
Yeah you could get away from a single scram with two stabs
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>>161222023
do what you wanna do if doing what you do do with other dos then do with them dos
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>>161222054
>>161222014
No.
Stabs only affect your ability to warp.
A scram will shut down all related modules no matter your warp strength.
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>>161221560
>no making sure to right click for pilot info on "rats"

God damn I love this game when that trick works.
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>>161222114
I just want a really big ship, like not for combat, just a big ship where I can go "ya that's my ship"
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>>161222121
Oh yeah I misread that, yeah you still won't be able to mwd but you can just warp out
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>>161222162
do it then
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>>161222162
DSTs, jump freighters, orca, rorqual
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>>161222121
Pity, thanks. I guess I will still die if someone hugs me while I am playing the thrilling hacking minigame.

I though about using a rook for explo, since you cant see me on dscan and I can fit enough tank to scram you and fly away if I need to, but then I know I would just get bubbled and fucked.

Eve is hard.
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>>161222212
Yeah, basically whatever you do there is going to be someone with a fit specifically designed to kill you
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>>161222186
>>161222204
Then I shall, but for now I have my little mining ship, which I have called "arms"
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>>161221341
>ceptor
>wormhole relics
just get a covops? pretty easy to escape gate bubbles
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>>161222349
i dont speak gibberish
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>>161222362
Well my problem isnt really with the entrances / exits. Last time I got fucked by a stealth bomber when I was in the middle of finding Nemo near the can.

Checkingdscandidmealotofgood.jpg
So I spend the rest of yesterday sitting in Jita trying to figure out how to make myself safer, while not flying a ship thats way too expensive.
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>>161222291
AFK mining isn't that bad, currently afk mining in my venture as I debate subbing again
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>>161222469
Since eve is free to play, what exactly does subbing get you?
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>>161222534
access to all your skills
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>>161222557
So it's like wow where it's free to play (until level 20) kind of deal?
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>>161222534
This video sums it up pretty well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YE6Z28tOcs
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>>161222652
Never played wow but sounds about right
Also skill training goes twice as fast
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>>161221341
Show info on warpstabs, anon. Look at the attributes. You don't put them on combat ships. You're in a ceptor, buddy. You catch things, not the other way around. Do use your d-scan and be aligned to shit and if the odd sudden arazu appears you're still fine because you should dual prop. It seems your goal is to pve, so don't worry about fitting for non sleeper fights. You should honestly just take your ceptor for a tour of null. If you jump into a large camp or are put very near some of them, burn back to the gate, if not, learn how sweet those ships are.
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Before I quit eve a long time ago I apparently logged out in space in an interceptor
Now I can never dock
What should I do?
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>>161222806
>dual prop
well this is embarassing, I never though about fitting both.

Live and learn, thanks.
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>>161222908
leave your ship in space and dock in your pod
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>>161222946
Yep. Just don't do warp core stabs, those are for ships without guns.
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>>161222691
Ever lazy town video I see makes me really want to watch it just for this guy's acting alone. But I know the rest of the show will most likely bore me to tears with the educational stuff.
>>161222770
Awww really that sucks, I thought it was going to be like TF2 and hats where I could play the full game, but never look cool.
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>>161222987
But then I wouldn't be able to get back in my interceptor
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>>161222134

I don't know what you're talking about. I literally fired on the same rat my alt was fighting and my alt got a kill right on me. Do missles have an aoe or something that would have slightly damaged my alt?
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>>161223049
ccp is holding your interceptor hostage then, better resub

or you can open a ticket or something
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>>161223048
At least you can look cool in eve, plenty of skins available for the ships you can fly.
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>>161223119
unless you fly gallente
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>>161223096
The point is I can fly the interceptor until I dock, but then I would have to plex to fly it again
As long as I don't dock I can still fly it
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>>161223163
Yeah, they're pretty much disgusting blobs of metal no matter how you paint them
Cept' for the algos, the algos looks pretty cool
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Can you do arty kiting solo with HFI?
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>>161223170
yes
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So best loot is in null right?
How do I get past the gate bubbles on the border of low/null I've been hearing horror stories about in my alpha frig?
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>doing anoms in a Hecate in a highsec pocket for esclations
>Sites galore
>Only one other person in system, bump into eachother a couple times while running the sites
>decide to convo him, divvy up the sites and the next couple systems
>Talk about our fit and whatnot
>Get a couple escalations
>Going to run them with him after DT

COMFY
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>>161223334
go balls deep in wormhulls until you end up in null
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>>161222946
>>161222806
You still won't escape from a mwd arazu with afterburner on a inty unless you're speed fit and he isn't.
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>Played years ago
>Flew almost exclusively caldari or amarr stuff because I liked missiles and lasers despite how bad they were at the time
>Character is Gallente and alpha now
>I have literally zero Gallente ships
>I also have 1 ISK because someone got ahold of my account somehow and stole all the money, guess they didn't want to bother towing all my worthless crap back to high sec to sell it
Fuck. Trying to get through low sec back to high in a velator is not gonna be fun.
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>>161223407
set ur home station to the starting newbie one and self destruct your pod

instant teleportation

>>161223334
http://eve-scout.com/
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>>161223379
Yeah but that means that the amount of people that can kill me shrunk significantly. I dont kid myself to think that there is a single fit to escape them all, but I wont be dying to anyone who gets a drop on me while I do my hacking thing.
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>>161223647
I don't think anything can escape dozens of smartbombing capitals

but outside of that, there are slippery ships that can escape everything else i.e. sub 2s align covops cloak ships, interdiction nullify optional
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>>161223756
ok but you need to take in acount that I am hacking, while checking dscan while checking overview. Means the reaction time is not 100% ideal. As I said, wormhole entrances dont bother me, its doing the relic sites themselves. You need to be close to a can and because it takes time, you can be aligned, but you cannot move away. So not ideal.
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>>161223854
ok think about this

if you have sub 2s align time, and you are hacking. what can actually fuck you up? de-cloak has a lock-time penalty except for bombers, and if they aren't cloaked, you'll see them on-grid before they land

the only thing that can catch you while hacking is an instant locking bomber, you can warp away from anything else
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>>161223920
Thats exactly what killed me yesterday. I guess bad luck on my part.
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>>161223957
carry ECM drones and pray

ganking bomber dps is pretty low, like 160 dps at best
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>>161223957
Then all you need is to add the ab and you'll eat any amount of SBs for breakfast. So long as you don't show it before they decloak.
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>>161224032
Yeah it did take him forever to kill me. Unfortunately I had slot only for one whole railgun. You can imagine how much damage I was doing to him.

>>161224064
Thats the plan for today.
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man this game is so complicated in everything that is related to pvp/low/nullsec or wormholes.

guess I have to join a corp and learn from them by doing and not reading guides?
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>>161224605
They will still make you read guides. It's just that you will get a chance to see things happen in practice.
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>>161224605
You dont need to join a corp to start doing. But it helps to have someone to give you pointers. You should still at least scan the wiki articles on whatever you want to do. And then go and try it with a mentality of "I am going to die today".
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Does higher probe strength equal to less deviation or are those two things separate from one another?
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>>161224605
The only corps that can teach you how to git gud wouldn't take you without an impressive resume.
Get your income stream, which you can do in a newb friendly corp, whatever part of space, but spend your isk on solo roaming in low, then spread out. Blob alliances are just going to teach you blobs.
There are also groups that exist to teach. E-Uni is alright, despite their occasional flashes of gaiety. And the other guys who I can't remember, who had like a beginners pvp course you take that opens up more detailed courses. They're good too.
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>>161224923
what makes amarr so bad? I love the aesthetic
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>>161225137
amarr are the elite race, you need maxed skills and a wealth of game knowledge to use them effectively but once you do they shit on every other race
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>>161225258
So, five years later then?
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>>161225303
yes, stick with caldari until then

stay the fuck away from gallente and minmatar
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>>161225384
>>161225258
This guy is outright lying.
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>>161225450
here come the contrarian hipsters
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>>161225486
If you aren't willingly lying, you are retarded.
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>>161225538
help i have a gun to m
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>>161223359
i wish i knew how to make friends
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>>161225137
Amarr are the best race anon. PVP in eve is consensual, the hardest part is getting people to fight you, which will only happen if they think they'll win. Flying Amarr makes that part easy mode. Get your skills right, Amarr is the race where you stop rushing ahead at cruisers and then get your cap, fitting, navigation, tanking and gunnery skills damn near perfect before moving on.
Fly navy slicers and Omens, hull tank punishers and do your best to get close initially and try and kill them after they figure it out and before they go. Executioners will set you up for the slicers.
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>doing WH exploration solo, hacking a relic site
>sister probes on dscan
>fuck it I'll take the chances
>no one warps in
>scan down a WH to keep going down the rabbit hole
>there was a bubble
I'm really new to this game but I'm sure I just got played so hard no one's going to top that for the next few years
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>>161225786
This happens every day, especially now that there's a bunch of newfags running around in wormholes.
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>>161223227
not even the algos got good looking skins
there is no escape.
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Anyone here part of a decent WH corp I could drop a character into?

I have orca/charon/rhea/t2 haulers so i can move my own shit in. I am looking to return to playing and need somewhere to belong other than my own citadel in a 0.1 system, all alone :'(
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>>161225786
Scan everything first before you do anything. Set up on grid bookmarks at warp distance from any hole you want to use
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>>161225786
he probably warped to you cloaked, saw you, then warped out
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New player here, I really want to do some sort of scouting/mining type of thing, nothing too fancy. What's the thing to go for in that case? I just want to know what to focus on. Also, is there a social aspect to this game out of the ships? The character creator is pretty neat but it would be a shame if your appearance wasn't seen much.
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>>161226237
ccp wanted to implement walking around ins tations but the community through a hissy fit so they scrapped it
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>>161226320
Why did they do that? Was it reddit or do they have a forum?
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>>161226237
Messing in the character creator is about the biggest waste of time in this game. Most players wont even see your portrait because they turn it off in the chat windows anyway.
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>>161226356
Because they were implementing ovrepriced microstransactions instead of fixing the game, which was in a really bad state at the time.
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>>161226409
Ah, that's no fun. I just want a place to return to and git comfy.
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>>161226356
Literally the game community itself. Turns out that automatically turning on something graphic intensive and not really useful when a number of people were running EVE on toasters was a bad idea.

Introducing a cash shop for cosmetic items that featured ridiculous prices probably didn't help either.
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>>161226356
CCP did implement WiS. It was a huge deal and then the expansion launched and they took away our hangar and ship spinning and we had a fucking condo you can walk in. A little box nobody else could enter you could walk around in. That was their walking in stations.
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>>161226434
you have a captains quarters to walk around in still
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>>161226471
not to mention how it triple station loading times and had awful performance problems
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>>161226471
what about the "not yet decontaminated" door?
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>>161226795
CCP is on maintenance mode. The only shit getting done beyond balance is stuff they can sell. They may have survived either WoD or Dust 359 but both of them hamstrung them.
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>>161208641
please respond
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>>161227718
My bad, meant to earlier but I forgot. Yeah, SoE is fine for mission running. You get your lvl 2 free from doing the epic arc starting in Arnon and then Osmon has their lvl 4 agent near Jita.
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>>161226237
Look into doing exploration sites and gas harvesting

Doesn't need many skills and can make you big money fast.
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>>161225696
Literally right click start conversation

If they are someone who is in a situation you think you can mutually benefit from co-operating from, (like in my example) use that to start talking.

just o/ to start man
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>>161227001
>Just got a patch that implemented several new ships, drones, and citadels
>maintenance mode
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>tried eve years ago, tried every race
>pick it up after ascension, Minmatar and Caldari frigates are drastically different and look much better now
>Gallente hasn't changed a bit and still looks like shit
But I thought Iceland loved space SJWs
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>>161229035
pic related looks kinda cool

plus they have the best looking stealth bomber
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>>161229120
Gallente ships used to look nice
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>>161229120
5 mids makes it the perfect small gang resebo platform.
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I did it bois. I applied to brave, what am i in for?
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>>161229872
dying a lot
>>
Gallente or Amarr?
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>>161230308
Assuming you mean for an alpha clone, Gallente.
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why are there no rigs that give +1 low/mid or high slot or rigs that give drone bay+bandwidth?
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Does PL have feeder corps?
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>>161229872
Prepare to fly brave and die, and fun
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>>161230331
Yeah but why the Gallente? Are they just better?
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>>161229985
>>161230379
Sounds good, i haven't engauged in consentual pvp yet
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>>161230437
for the current meta and what it lets you fly, yes
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>>161218527
But All-Out are fucking trash who fly trash ships, nopoorsallowed

>>161219842
Don't join PAS, they are also fucking trash and it's full of retards

If you're looking for a corp in eve, check forums, talk to people ingame, check recruitment channels, join public roams, do stuff, talk to the people you encounter in space, play the fucking game don't ask idiots on /vg/ who don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
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Is this gonna work or should I biomass

>>161230840
cookie pls
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>>161230710
Alright thanks
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>>161229203
>Looking even more like an untextured dildo
>Nice
No
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>>161230864
>long range meme
>no sentries
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>>161230864
Who?

Consider rapid lights instead of that one neut so you can clear tackle.
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>>161230940
I don't think I want to pack the whole drone bay with 2 bouncers
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>find a quiet hole to probe
>8 sigs, 6 turn out to be where the loot at
>data sites only
>poor 40 mil

bleh what a waste of time ... is there something super rare that spawns only in data sites so that there is any point in bothering? Also does anyone know if wormhoes spawn the same type of sites or is it random every time?
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>>161231491
Random, and only the most difficult data sites (none sleeper) are worth doing, the outposts require more specialized fits, ships and SP to complete without dying though.

Ignore data sites, do relic.
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>>161231491
you can get some blueprints, some might be ~100mil
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>>161231491
if you dont consider 40m a lot of money dont go to data sites
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>>161231803
yeah I probably will, might aswell use the slot for a pinpoint module to find relics faster. Thanks.
>>161231816
Thought so, the blueprints seem to be the only things that drop with a capability of hitting a jackpot, thanks.
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>>161231907
Of course I dont if its 6 sites in a wormhole where my ass is out in the breeze ... whereas I can get the same in 1 or 2 relic sites.

They should really buff data sites, it makes no sense. I need a seperate skill for it, I need a seperate module for it and I have to brave the same shitstorm as people that do relics only. CCP why you so silly?
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>Random enemy AI at a highsec gate looking weird as fuck

What
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What did he mean by this?
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Drifters prolly. Autism Tyrranos
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>>161232074
>dude INTERESTING THINGS IN HISEC LMAO

If only you knew how retarded you look.
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>>161231981
you can use one module for both data and relic sites
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>using memeanylyzers
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>being bad at minesweeper
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>>161232239
I bet I can find you in Jita, spamming local how you are going to double my money too ...
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>>161232385
there's a data+relic analyzer combo module u dumb nigger
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>>161232470
Aren't they really expensive?
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>>161232470
>40m
>shit virus coherence

Yeah.
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>>161232602
git gud
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>>161232602
And you still need to train both skills anyway.
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>>161232710
Only idiots use the combo module
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>>161232710
I might not be good but I am not doubling the price of the rest of my ship AND I wont blow up nearly as many loot as you will.

Feels got to be bad.
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I made my alt a minmatar, any reason why I shouldnt? besides the NPC tutorial slut being a negro
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New potential player here,few questions.

how reall limites are the alpha acounts?

i want to indulge in the economic and industrial part of the games,i need and omega account for that or with alpha in fine?

this game is well optimized for shitty pcs?

with and alpha account can i farm enough isk to buy plex?

if the answer is yes then how hard is to farm to get plex?
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Why is it shit /dog/
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>>161233996
>dog picture
>pretending to be a newfag

kill yourself
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>>161234015
drones
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>>161234117
What about them
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>>161233996
>how reall limites are the alpha acounts?
Very limited

>i want to indulge in the economic and industrial part of the games,i need and omega account for that or with alpha in fine?
You can't train good market skills on alpha account, which makes them terrible for this.

>this game is well optimized for shitty pcs?
I run it on a potato, it works fine.

>with and alpha account can i farm enough isk to buy plex?
Yes

>if the answer is yes then how hard is to farm to get plex?
Getting a job is easier.
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>>161234163
they is shit
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>>161234339
okay so the only thing wrong with it is memes
I think I'll buy it then
That isn't even with all V btw, this is
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How is FW space these days? I'm super rusty and want to roam around in frigs but I'm not sure how to best handle hauling. I've got an unsubbed nomad/mastodon/prowler alt but maybe I'm better off just using contracts since suicide ganking seems to be so rampant? Or should I just base in Jita and just roam nullsec in a ceptor to preserve sec status?
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>>161221020
>corps LOVE alphas
why? newbie here
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>>161234678
they like to teach people how to get into the game
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>>161234430
why are you doing an armor fit? shield fits are better
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>>161234913
Because this is the fit that I found
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>>161234678
because of sunk cost fallacy. they're heavily invested in this game and know that the only way to keep the pyramid scheme that is EVE running for another year or two is to trick naive alphas into subbing.
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>>161233996
just farm $20 irl, it's faster
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>>161234996
what are you doing exactly? and where wouldn't a shield fit work?
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>>161235215
its erroneous to suggest that buying plex is faster because then that makes everything in EVE inherently slower when you can just IRL dosh it
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>>161235305
buy 2 plex and use the other to buy skill injectors
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>>161235218
I was thinking c1-2 solo shit, maybe lowsec (or maybe null?) combat explo. I don't really know what this ship would be able to handle.

Could you post a shield strat fit that would fit those goals? I don't know why a shield fit would be "better" per se
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>>161235417
lol no, buy skill extractors because its worth more, sell them then buy skill injectors
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>>161235485
a rattlesnake can do C3-C4-C5 easily
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>>161235593
I don't follow
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>>161235663
Aim higher, you're blowing a lot of money on a ship to do piss small sites when you can spend a little more and do a way higher tier of site and make way more money
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>>161235663
just mjd tank nigger
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>>161235712
I'm not sure I'm skilled for a rattle though
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>>161236036
takes the same skills as the stratios, caldari battleship 4 and gallente battleship 4 will get you able to do it.

Stratios isn't that great for this and you might just get nailed trying to do it
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>>161234015
its shit because you have awful skills and you fit it incorrectly
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>>161237984
GODSPEED CAPTAIN CLUCKO
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>>161237984
>using anything but the purity of the throne and khanid skins
you disappoint me
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>>161234015
You put an AB on a ship with a covops cloak, anon. Then, you have two god damn oversized cap batteries taking up all of your fitting because I don't even know why. Get some nav skills too.
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>>161234117
>>161236315
>>161238529
After looking at the fit and looking at a comparison of other fits, I have come to the conclusion that it is in fact, a shit fit.

I got it from some random rusrus I chatted up >>161223359
earlier.

I now know why it is a bad fit. Thank you for your advice
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>>161220882
>I'm an unemployed loser
Block 4chan. Don't play EVE yet.
Go get your life on track.
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How long would it take to top off an alpha clone?

It's around 5 million skill points but with half? the learning rate?
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>>161238484
>being part of the glorious amarr empire
>using purity skins
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>>161239253
Around 4 months

Omega clones get around 2.5mil per month, depending on your neutral remap, implants and what skills you're training.
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>>161223334
The best loot in null is as good as the worst loot in w-space
Null ranges from 0.0 to -1.0 sec, w-space is all -1.0
Also, w-space has more valuable sites
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>>161239360
I thought alpha clones weren't allowed to use implants (and cloaking, and PI)
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>>161239253

Did it in about 3 days lad
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>>161239512
Implants are accessible up to maximum Alpha clone skills (Cybernetics Skill III)

Lapsed Omega characters with an active booster will see the duration remain the same but cannot activate more boosters as an Alpha clone
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>>161239276
this coming from the nerd using shit iron skin
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>>161239604
HUEHUEHUE
LET ME SHOW HIM THIS THING HES CLEARLY NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST TO STROKE MY EPEEN
can't wait until a GM deletes all your sp
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>>161239752
wow rude
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>>161239604
Post PvP.
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>>161239752
Old screenshot, they already did.
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>>161239276
>>161239737
>not switching between them in combat to confuse your enemy
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>>161240615
sadly you can't switch skins with a combat timer
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how can other races even compete?

i hope more ships get this glorious skin
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>>161209348
billion years too late response:

pvp/pve?

pve - 200 always, you fly so you can track

pvp - depends on the ship bonuses. the lower the better tracking, obviously. worse falloff and optimal though. i prefer smaller anyway though. more shots - more chances to hit - better tracking and you are facehugging them anyway.

unless you go for some xD small AC kite shenaginas, which is questionable
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>>161241281
>you fly so you can track
neat brainfart

I meant you fly it so you conserve ammo and do the most DPS overall with them
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I need a chill corp to join, anyone got any ideas? I play during night time mostly in CTS.

I love 4chan /vg/ guilds as long as it's not KEK KEK KEK spam and what not.
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>>161241853
>I love 4chan /vg/ guilds as long as it's not KEK KEK KEK spam and what not
then you wont be joining any in this game
>>
Should i resub to my 6m SP character, join one of those newbro corps and get actually into the game for the first fucking time?

Or should i resubb, stand on the station, spin my capsule, look at pretty ships in the market and never do anything, quitting in 3 days again?
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>>161241853
>I love 4chan /vg/ guilds as long as it's not KEK KEK KEK spam and what not.
better luck next time
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>>161242185
do the first but then end up doing the second
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>>161242185
ship spinning sounds something you're gonna end up doing if you are seriously asking what you should do on an anime anonymous imageboard, your kind is destined for failure in a game like EVE
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>>161241923
That was actually auto corrected from the other word.
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>>161242185
Try it on alpha first

t. idiot who subbed 4 accounts and then went back to play Dota2
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>>161242185
>Try it on alpha first
Alpha your 6m bloke.
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>>161241853
unironically i want a 4chan guild where its ONLY KEK KEK KEK spam, who do i join
>>
>playing assfaggots
>tainting my EVE and /dog/ with your vatnik prescence
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>>161242892
hit up kreydis arona ingame nigga
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>>161242892
All-Out
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>>161242892
Puppet Appreciation Station
There's like a spoofed homoglyph in there or some shit, therefore you can't search the guild's name
The guildmaster is named The Connoisseur, find the guild by searching him
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/eog/ roam, frigs and dessies. meet up at nourv on tama gate in 30m.
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>48k online
When are all of the alphas quitting? I'd like to be able to load into Jita in under 5 hours.
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>>161243454
can i bring my drake
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>>161243683
Sure.
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>>161243681
PROTIP: they aren't leaving.
They would have left after the first day or so.
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>>161243681
Find a less bot infested hub.
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>>161243897
>implying the free alts are ever gonna leave
>>
>They would have left after the first day or so.
There's going to be some drop off at 2 weeks or so.
Among the ones who avoided socializing.

But yeah, most Alpha are here to stay.
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>>161242892
Dreddit
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>>161244152
No reason for drop off in a free game. There are over 1B in PC gaming.
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>>161244226
fuck off Benji nigger
go leech in someone's else discord
>>
Is using a MJD sniping battleship fit for 0.0 - 0.4 ded sites viable?
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>highsec griefers complaining about people dodging wardecs

You can't make this shit up
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>>161245160
> 0.0 - 0.4
what the fuck does that even mean
>>
>>161245562
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/System_Security
>>
Lo-sec?
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>>161245629
Ayy.
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>>161245629
That's not how DED sites work.
>>
>doing exploration
>fresh wormhole opened up on my patrol route
>decide to try my luck
>setup up some safespots while scanning down all the sites
>spamming dscan all the time
>clear out 4/5 relics sites
>31m so far
>at somepoint i messed up and stopped spamming dscan
>so absorbed in hacking i didnt even fucking notice i got scrammed
>no escape as his buddy warps in and kills me

Damn ruskies... but it really was my own fault
>>
>>161247096
>4/5 relic sites
also
>31 mil from 4 wh relic sites

nice made up story
>>
Any stable corps that aren't at war all the fucking time or do nothing but PvP? I just wanna mine or rat and stuff for a while.

Funny new players think these people recruiting like mad for alphas want them for anything other than PvP fodder.
>>
Why is the stabber such a piece of shit?
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>>161247096
>so absorbed
just go towards low numbers
it's easy
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>>161247393
Nig are you srs

That's not even that good of a haul. How much of a baddie are you?
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>>161247820
After 4 WH relic sites you would have had a minimum 150 mil. The point was you're a liar my man.
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>>161247096
only do sansha and blood raiders, others generally drop garbo
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>>161247935
also set the overview background color for neutral/no standing pilots
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>>161247803
because it only has 4 guns, 4 mids and 4 lows. You can't fit it for tank, it has garbage fitting and you get 2 launcher hard points that are pretty useless
>>
I have like 4 friends all looking to play a new game

Is this game fun with friends?
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>>161248179
Yes.
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>>161248179
>new
>even
>fun
pick none
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>>161248179
IT's only fun with friends. This is an MMO where the massively multiplayer is the important part, not the online submarine simulator bit.
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>>161247927
I'm not even the same guy you originally responded to

It's also possible to get shit drops and only get 30 mil. In fact I'd say that getting 150 mil is too high

What would the point of lying about that story even be? Change any of the details and the story is the same, and happens literally all the time.

Have I been rused?
>>
>>161248364
then I guess I'll dip my toes for a bit and see if it meets our criteria

space is really cool
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>>161248465
>20 wh cans
>only 30 mil

no
>>
best way to make isk with alpha accounts? And by best i mean most time efficient
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>>161247786
alphas cant do shit but be cannon fodder
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>>161249543
FW
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>>161249543
Pretend to be a gril.
>>
What the fuck happened to the price of PLEX, last time I was here it was around 500 million, now its 1.1 billion or some shit.

This feels like WoW tokens all over again.
>>
>>161249543
afk mining
>>
So for some unknown reason I am sitting on 3 manticores.

Is is viable to go hunt lowsec people in belts or is my tank too shit to do that? Never actually tried.
>>
>>161250230
It was 1.25 bil a few days ago
be grateful goyim!
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>>161250230
back in my day plex used to be 3 hundo mills
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>>161250230
>Inflation in an online game? That's never happened before!
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>>161250303
You won't actually find things you can kill in lowsec belts. Best you can hope with Manticores is killing PI runners in wormholes.

Join All-Out
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>>161250519
Shame, I honestly dont know why I bought them. I must have been drunk and placing buy orders again.
>>
Should I join Sniggwaffe?
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IT'S MY SECOND WEEK OF EVE AND I'M GONNA GO SOLO LOW SEC RATTING ON A RIFTER NOW TELL ME HOW TO FIT THIS GODDAMN SHIP

NO I WON'T CHANGE MY MIND I DONT CARE IF I GET BLOWN UP
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Do I have to mine with a ton of alternate accounts to make any profit? Are there any ways to make isk solo?
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>>161251083
Are you a meme-spouting faggot capable of pressing f1?
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>>161250462
inflation is just a meme tho
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>>161251238
200s A VAMP OR NEUT, SCRAM, WEB, MWD, DCU, GYRO AND AN ANCILLARY REP. RIGS PLUG THE HOLE (EXPLO? IT"S BEEN A WHILE) AND THEN RIG FOR RANGE. THE RATS YOU HUNT SHOULD BE PEOPLE. F10 MAP AND SET TO SHIPS DESTROYED IN PAST HOUR. AVOID ROUTES THROUGH SYSTEMS WITH MANY. IF THERE'S 4 OR 5 LOOK UP THAT SYSTEM ON A KILLBOARD FOR SMARTBOMBS. DON'T WARP GATE TO GATE. IF MAP SHOWS DEATHS AND YOU CAN D-SCAN A FRIG ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GATE FROM A NEARBY PLANET, IT'S CAMPED. HAVE FUN, RIFTER BRO. Also see if you can find archives of a blog called Rifter Drifter and read it.
>>
>neut
>ancillary rep

choose one unless your skills and cap management are top tier

>needing a nos
>only having an ancillary rep

choose one
>>
>>161251238
Guns, prop, shields, damage control and gyros in the lows.

If you want to actually fight players and die horribly, you need armor rep, damage control, gyro, scram web prop, guns, rep rigs.
>>
>tfw made today 160kk in a ship what costs with fully fitted 1 mil

was gud day, omega here we, slowly, go
>>
>>161253397
>kk
>>
>>161253517
okay 160 Mega Isks
>>
>>161253397
>two different measurement metrics for the same number in the same sentence
do NOT do this
>>
>>161253397
You'll be a lot happier if you sub for a few months and spend the isk you earn on having fun instead of trying to grind out plex right off the bat.
>>
okay sorry
>>
huh

Just realized that Energy Upgrades V and racial destroyers III are required for HACs (as well as BCs).

But I already have HAC and BC skills so what happens? do I need to train them up before getting bonus' or being able to fly them or something?
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>tfw alphas celebrate their first million isk
>tfw making billions and i don't have to log in
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>>161254275
teach me master, you are some kind of happy merchant?
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>>161254249
No. The requirement for getting in the ship is the only the skill for that hull. Since you already have it, you can use them.
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So how do people steal from corps? ( I dont want to) just curious how people somehow screw corps all the time.

Is everything in a vault free for anyone to take?
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>>161255010
by doing the same things con artist do irl but with fake money/no jailtime
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>>161255010
by gaining their trust, sometimes the vault remains unlocked because of mistakes
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>>161255010
scaming is not magic and older than prostitution
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Do I have to mine with a ton of alternate accounts to make any profit? Are there any ways to make isk solo?
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>>161255010
They join a corp. They do stuff with the corp. Eventually they're given access to corp hangars and wallets. One day, they decide they were a master con artist all along and take whatever they can.
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>>161255436
>Do I have to mine with a ton of alternate accounts to make any profit?
Not profitable anymore, thanks to the trial account changes.
>Are there any ways to make isk solo?
Almost anything works, yes.
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So I'm trying to pick a T1 frigate to learn solo PVP in. I have small projectile turrets and minmatar frigate both to V so something like a slasher seems logical. I also have small lasers to V but not amarr frigate so that's another possibility, but I hear most amarr ships are shit so maybe not. So what's a good one to jump into?
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>>161256142
I was told that minmatar frigs were nerfed into shit-tier.

In fact I have no idea what works in t1 frigates. Every time I try some faggot in a t3 shows up, uncloaks and blaps me instantly.
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>>161256142
>I hear most amarr ships are shit

seriously can you stop spreading these retarded memes

>learn solo PVP

a slasher will let you frag interceptors in nullsec. a tormentor or executioner also will work. if you want to solo in lowsec, all the fits and everything is different, and imo much worse and less interesting. I'd recommend a turret destroyer - thrasher or coercer for you, if you want to do lowsec things
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>>161255436
>Are there any ways to make isk solo?
Yeah, you join a corp. The common methods of grinding isk are soul destroyingly boring. EVE is an MMO and I mean an actual MMO. There is a strong chance that this is the first real MMO you've played. Everything about it is designed to be done with others. Join a corp.

>>161256142
Slasher, executioner, rifter and build like 5 punishers. Don't listen to nervous nellies bitching about the latter two. Just look up eve and slingshot and try to start all fights in your punisher right up somebodies asshole, because when they try to leave you can't stop them, so they better die before they get out. Overheat guns early and scram as they get to edge of range. If they're in scram kiting ships and you don't get lucky by warping to a celestial, noting their warp to distance and then warping to another celestial at that distance, simply don't take the fight.
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Procurer or Retriever?
I'm just gonna be in high sec.
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>ITT: People who have zero idea how economics work

In order for CCP to increase the buying power of ISK, they need to either restrict the amount of ISK entering the game, or increase the amount exiting it. This is how things like the Federal Reserve in America handle inflation.

The most immediate way to do this is to restrict the amount of money coming in, this means decreasing the payouts on everything from bounties to missions. In order to reach 500M PLEX costs, we're talking about at least halving the current payout of everything in the game. While that would benefit industry vastly, it would piss off the most vocal and temper-tantrum prone demographic of the EVE community.

The next option is to increase the amount of money leaving the market, in layman's terms, player's shit getting blown up.. This means either encouraging fighting in nullsec, or creating bigger, larger, and more expensive things to get blown up. Sound familiar?

tl;dr - CCP is doing what it can to regulate the economy in a roundabout way because the quick and dirty answer is going to piss off a lot of manchildren who rat in carebear null and the whales that buy their PLEX.
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>>161256873
procurer, never die
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>>161256904
>In order to reach 500M PLEX costs

why do you think they want to do this
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So did f2p fix PLEX economy?
a.k.a. are PLEX under 300 mil again?
a.k.a. can you grind L4 missions as omega and earn more than a plex monthly?

Pls say yes. I suck at the game so fucking bad that I can't earn a single plex's worth in a month of sub.
I need those low plex prices otherwise can't play.

Also why did CCP let plex get above 1 bil in the first place :(
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>>161257123
>Why would CCP want people to have to buy 2 PLEX to give them the same buying power they have now instead of one?
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>>161257169
Plex is currently only 200 mil.
Reinstall asap!
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>>161257123
Because lower plex costs means more people buying plex for ISK, which translates into more plex's sold to the plex dealers for real cash.

>>161257169
Plex is like 1.1 billion right now.
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>>161256873
Retriever, mo' money and you should learn how to minimize risk no matter what your current plans are. Set low standings on corps who gank miners and watch your local channel. Use 360 d-scans at close range and leave if catalysts or other popular suicide ganking ships are landing. EVE pvp is consensual if you L2P, so learn to freakin' play.

>>161257123
It would be a sign that they once again have a healthy player base. It wouldn't be the goal in and of itself but rather a benchmark of positive progress.
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>>161242705
>assfaggots
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What is the best way to move all my shit?
I got a Mammoth and a buttload of frigs from the agent missions, along with my basic destroyer.

I've done all the SoE quests and agent tuts, and just want to into solo mining.

All my shit is at the starting place (Prator Tech School).
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>>161257331
>>161257368
so lower isk value for plex results in more plexes being bought with real money

are you guys for real
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>>161257169
>a.k.a. are PLEX under 300 mil again?
no
>a.k.a. can you grind L4 missions as omega and earn more than a plex monthly?
if you arent retarded you can make 100+m/hr easily doing l4 missions in high sec, this has been possible even before burners came around
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>>161257465
Pay someone to do it for you. They'll do it for literally peanuts, even when you set the collateral way higher than the actual value.
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>>161257169
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>>161257479
>PLEX prices have doubled in ISK
>Playerbase has nearly halved in the same amount of time
>No correlation

Are YOU for real?
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>>161256594
>EVE is an MMO and I mean an actual MMO. There is a strong chance that this is the first real MMO you've played.
Out of curiosity, what do other MMOs do you consider "real/actual"?
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>>161257672
many other things have happened in that time as well mr economics expert
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>>161257750
You're the kind of person that thinks global warming isn't caused by humans
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>>161257682
He's just being a sperg. The literal definition is Massive Multiplayer Online, which there are a ton of.

I guess he wanted to seem smart.
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>>161257682
Versions of EQ, UO and FFXI which no longer exist. I can't think of anything modern.
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>>161257682
not him, but "MMOs" where you only interact with like 10 people and do shit in tiny little instances are not massively multiplayer. they'd be more properly called cooperative fantasy grinding games
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Just downloaded the game, trying to buy something from the market but when I right click and press 'buy this' only an empty box with an ! in it appears.

How do I fix this bug? Is there a 'verify game cache' equivalent for EVE?
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>>161257829
You're the kind of person that thinks global warming is real and is caused by humans.
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>>161257570
>if you arent retarded
Unfortunately I am retarded. Been doing it for years and my peak was 20mil/hr.
Had to quit eve because PLEX prices outgrew my grinding capacity.

>>161257368
>Plex is like 1.1 billion right now.
Okay thanks. I'll try again some other time.
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>>161258010
that item doesn't exist in your area, go find a hub that does
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>>161258010
Pic related. I cant buy anything, how do I fix this? thanks
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New player question:
I've done a bit of research about where the most lucrative resources are, and where the most action is, and I'm considering joining a null corp.

I know that engaging in hostile action against a non WT/criminal pilot will lower security status, but I'd like to keep mine fairly high so I can go to jita, and what not.

Is it possible to have my cake and eat it in this case, or will I have to bite the bullet and take the status hit if I want action? I don't want to really solo roam, and I'm not looking into piracy.
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>>161258198
I don't think you can buy that particular module on market
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>>161258181
it does, there's 11,900 of them in my station
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>>161258289
You can.. its for the tutorial.
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>>161258173
>my peak was 20mil/hr
did you just ignore LP completely while using a terrible ship to slowly clear missions and then loot/salvage?
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>>161258198
Fuck around with your graphics settings. That's the box, it's not loading in. If you instantly click it away then wait for it to load.
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>>161258263
thats only in highsec
you can attack anything you want in null and WH, only exceptions are attacking faction rats from the 4 main races in missions or sites, if you become hostile the faction police will shoot you, but not concord.
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>>161258198
I've never seen that before. maybe your client is still downloading assets, going by the lack of icons in the market screen, but I don't know why that would fuck up that buy window. maybe write a petition here if you can't get it working http://support.eveonline.com/

>>161258289
things you can't buy on market are not supposed to have entries
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>>161258263
No laws in nullsec, no security hits for any action there. If you fight in lowsec and they're not criminals or WTs, just don't pod and you'll be fine.
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>>161258263
You only take sec status hits for combat in highsec/lowsec
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It's the episode where we wait until a shit logi and gnosis combo get bored of gatecamping a lowsec gate no one goes through so that you can simply get a shuttle through.
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>>161258643
but shuttles instawarp
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>>161258643
Just go through man.
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>>161258362
LP was worth something back in 2012. Last I played best exchange rate for generic LP was 500isk/lp.
How's that any good? Majority of my earnings came from salvage.

I did try blitzing everything but even with deadspace MWD and 900 (iirc) dps it was less isk/lp than full clears + loot/salvage (except some missions - I always blitzed those).
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What should I mine as a newbie omega?
Use some Venture to mine... wormhole gas? Veldspar?
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>>161258862
>>161258889
I don't care about losing the ship, I just don't want to have to jump all the way from Jita again because two kids are incapable of destroying things that fight back.

Captcha; Annoying Asperon
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>>161258643
shuttles and pods are real instant warp in 1 second, which means they cannot ever be pointed no matter how good the instalocker is.
You need bubbles or smartbombs to kill those, and thers no bubbles in lowsec.

InstaCeptors, even when often called instawarp are actually around the <2sec align time, the aim of instawarp fits is to get below the 2 sec align, but they can still be locked and pointed in some scenarios.
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>>161259153
You're not going to lose the ship. It's a shuttle. They're a gnosis and augoror. They won't catch you.
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>>161258981
Wormhole gas will be your best bet but is risky and you have to take time scanning down wormholes/anoms, which can eat into your time. If you want to go after ore instead use this website to find which ore in your area is the most valuable. https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/
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Are any of the Minmatar cruisers worth a damn? I'm ready to upgrade from my Thrasher to something a little bit bigger and a little bit shootier, but I don't know what's good.
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>>161259947
no
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>>161259652
Thanks bud, just slapped on this cheap fit venture.
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>>161259947
Stabber will get you fights. Problem is you need meme fits against a narrow range of targets to win them.
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>>161258967
well there you go, you were probably running missions for some shitty navy corp

find a corp that sells 5 run bpc of something in demand like faction damage mods for the highest isk/lp conversion, the only downside is dealing with tags

or go to lanngisi for SoE shit like probes if youre lazy and still want a decent isk/lp payout
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>>161259947
the scythe is good. if you want to shoot people then go back to the thrasher, or go up to a hurricane. rupture is probably the closest to being usable out of the rupture stabber and bellicose I guess, if you insist
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Are Drake still in vogue, how about Tengus since they're like half the price they were when I first quit

What are good fits for wormholes with Caldari ships, or should I respec to something else?
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>>161260917
>Drake
no
>Tengu
yes
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>>161260917
Tengu stronk. Price drop is because of increased supply.
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>>161260531
There's barely any interesting LP corps in highsec and missioning for them means unbalanced standings.
How to remedy that?
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>>161261129
Seesaw. X LP, cruise across the map, X LP for until faction standings reset.
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I am still sitting on a victory edition rattle BP - How much are these going for now?
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>caring about standings

why
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>>161251619
So glad we removed useless isk sinks like clone costs!
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>>161261129
just dont do the missions that have you shoot the main 4 factions
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>>161261492
>clone costs

kys
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>>161261097
I figured that was why the price dropped.

Why are Drakes shit now?

Whats another good, cheap choice for wormhole ratting?
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>>161261492
One way they could increase the cost of things is by making minerals scarcer. Less minerals drop = need more time to build things = things built have greater value and cost more = more isk spent
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lol those dumbasses at pandemic horde

already made 100m in 2 days by just scamming those dumbasses that try to help new players hahahahahhaha
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>>161261697
>100m
>2 days

You sound new...
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>>161261697
>100m
>2 days
>2 million per hour
You would literally get more by mining veldspar.
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>>161261451
>halving the already small number of systems due to carelessness

why

>>161261361
Then I'm only doing the high LP payout corps 50% of the time.
Still better than nothing I guess.
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>>161262034
haven't bad standings doesn't stop you going anywhere
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>>161261845
>You would literally get more by mining veldspar.

I wish
Veldapar gets me maybe 750k an hour on my venture
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>>161262412
>Venture
Well thats why, I based my numbers on what I remember making in my retriever
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>>161261697
kill yourself you piece of shit
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>>161261665
>Why are Drakes shit now?
Drakes aren't shit, they just aren't overpowered.

They still work fine in c2 wormholes, but c3 and up is rattlesnake territory because rattles are strong, cheap and their damage comes from a role bonus, so you don't need SP to run rattles.

Tengus can do it, but there is no point in using them for PVE because the rattlesnake exists.
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>>161262412
I live in my own citadel in a 0.1 system. Pretty low traffic, CVA in null 2 jumps away so pretty friendly. I will sponsor your first mining barge/exhaumer.

I have JF/Deep space for logistics if you have much to move.

i am looking for some people to join my corp/live nearby to start a community for PvE/Indy
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>>161256904
>The next option is to increase the amount of money leaving the market, in layman's terms, player's shit getting blown up.. This means either encouraging fighting in nullsec, or creating bigger, larger, and more expensive things to get blown up. Sound familiar?
This doesn't destroy isk, it destroys minerals. Combat is an Isk faucet because of insurance.

Isk sinks in EVE are NPC sell orders, market fees and broker tax paid to NPC corps, LP stores.
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Do you still get insurance payouts if your ship gets concorded?
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>>161263781
>Ships are purchased with ISK
>That ISK goes to Industry
>Industry spends money on...?
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What do if I'm a 3 year old character with some controversial corp names under my history who has never touched pvp but wants to, as f2p alpha?

Please don't say brave newbies.
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>>161256142
Amarr actually has nice frigates.
But they are extremely reliant on capacitor skills.
Alpha can't level enough to use them well.
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>>161265262
Nosferatu. Neut if you're pvping, usually.

>>161265978
I dunno what you guys don't like about the newbies. They always undocked and accepted fights when we came knocking in RvB. PL were the only other people who would always do that too and Brave never ended fights by hotdropping us.
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>>161266223
BN wouldn't like me because of some of the corps/alliances I've been a part of in the past, even if it was IRL years ago.
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Is it just me or are ore sites stupidly rare? Flying around I'll see 100 combat sites for every ore site I find.
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Is this game so hard as people make it out to be? potential new player here,i want to play a game with a player driiven market and economy.
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>>161266605
What do you mean by "hard"?
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>>161266605
The only hard part is knowing about things. Knowing that drag bubbles exist and that's why we don't warp gate to gate. Knowing what you can do with your d-scan. Knowing about the margin trading skill and why you're the mark when you're about to make 50 million for buying something and moving it 3 jumps to sell. The doing isn't difficult, it's the learning.
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>>161266605
Its hard if you make it hard. Theres almost always an easier way of doing things.

People have this game figured out to a fucking science, following trends and keeping up with the rest of the playerbase is an easy way to do well in the game.

Are you bored? fucking stop being bored and change something. Your player involvement is HUGE in this game since you ACTUALLY dictate your own path unlike other MMO's that are streamlined and spoonfed
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>>161266561
It depends on the system. Some systems have the whole host of potent ore sites while some will have none at all or one or two. Although I think it correlates with security level and industry modifier (shield in the top right next to system info).
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>>161265859
Industry is players, friend. When you spend a couple bil in Jita only the tiny portion that goes towards market fees is sunk.
Then you get your new ships blown up and what happens? More Isk is generated from nothing.

Isk removed from your wallet isn't Isk removed from the game unless you're buying skillbooks or blueprints etc.
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newbie here just found out what courier contracts are, apparently i can pay another person to move my stuff. Can i make some money hauling some stuff with Tayra/badger through hisec? Where to find such contracts?
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>>161268304
you can kinda but often collateral you pay as insurance can be excessive and the amount you're carrying can either be fucking worthless or get you killed
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>>161266329
Pretty sure they don't care about your past. Why don't you hit up some of your old corps?

>>161268304
Try 'haulers channel' ingame. They might throw you some contracts.
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>>161267476
>Isk removed from your wallet isn't Isk removed from the game unless you're buying skillbooks or blueprints etc
>skillbooks or blueprints etc
And remind me what Industry (players) spend money on again?
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>>161268304
Okay. First thing is that you need to know that alliances that own nullsec space determine who is allowed to dock in stations in that space. When you look for courier contracts, always check that the destination station is in highsec when you're just starting out. Check the route to see if it ends up in a highsec pocket surrounded by campable lowsec systems. Check the volume to be sure you can carry it.

You can search contracts from the neocom industry menu (neocom is the three horizontal lines above your character portrait on the left. Like guy above said, try chat channels, I don't know if haulers channel is the only one but there are channels where people post contracts. You can also get jobs through hauling corps. Back wehn I played I think it was Red Frog which was the reliable one with a good reputation, there could be more now, Red Frog could be shit now and I don't remember the exact name and there will be similar ones to lure people in so do some research. Hauling is pretty good for alphas. You're not hampered so much by the skill restrictions.
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>>161268763
RMT
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>>161268712
They are gone, as far as I know. Twas 3 years ago or so.
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>Check the route to see if it ends up in a highsec pocket surrounded by campable lowsec systems
1. You mean if it ends up there, i should not take it?

2. How can i transfer few packaged ships + some items from one of my characters to another?
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>>161268763
Building fees, reprocessing fees, every single little fee in between. Much of industry is latent in time involved and efficiency grossed because of it.
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>>161269869
I mean you should be aware that if there's a courier contract with a high collateral in a system like that there's a good chance that the person who made the contract will be watching for it to be accepted, will definitely know it was you who accepted it and will be waiting for you to come through so he can destroy you and collect your collateral. He could do it with a straight highsec route too but that'll be less common. You can throw people off trying that in highsec by accepting the contract one one character, contracting it to your hauler in the same station via contracts (which answers your second question) and then contracting it back at the destination. That's kind of pointless in a lowsec route because camps will any hauler regardless of whether they've been specifically waiting for you or not.

In addition to contracts, which is the only way to transfer stuff from characters on the same account, if you have two omega accounts you can be in the same station, pick the other character from the guest list or autolink their name and right click to open a trade.
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>>161269869
To add, just set autopilot routes on destination stations before accepting any contract unless you're prepared to travel through lowsec and lose your collateral.
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>>161263651
i'd be willing to join something like that
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>>161270263
And you're saying that doesn't come out the game?
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>>161270623
Look shit up, find out which rats will scram and warp and kill them first.
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>>161270838
I answered your question of what do industrialist players spend money on
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>>161270263
>he doesn't have a POS
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>>161270838
ancient figures but the fact that combat is an isk faucet and not a sink hasn't changed

>>161271330
i think he believes that industry people just hoard their money or something
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EM Armor Compensation V is the biggest waste of time in all of video game history, period

There is no debate
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>>161271554
That data on insurance is only useful if people fight unfit ships. Guess what?
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What's the best way to go about learning solo PVP? Should I just roam around in lowsec looking for fights? What are the most active regions? Also, is faction warfare a good path to take?
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>>161271771
>Should I just roam around in lowsec looking for fights
Yes, dunno, yes.
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>>161220747
You alphas are fucking everywhere whenever I end up with a high sec wormhole in system or in my neighbor's. You should start exploring in lowsec, you're always welcome here!
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HML or HAM for pve caracal?
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>>161272829
RLML

HAMS apply way better than HML's and HML's are still paying for the sins of the drake in 2012

HML's are shit, they do shit DPS, have shit application, don't even fucking use them. RLML's even with the long reload do as much damage as HML's without the piss application
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>>161271554
>Being this terrible at understanding
First you thought that I was making a claim that Industry isn't player run, and now you're thinking I'm claiming Industry hordes money. Allow me to spell it out for you since you're apparently actually that retarded.

My original reply, >>161265859 established two arguments;
1.) Ships are purchased with ISK
2.) That ISK goes to industry-focused players that made the ships

I then asked you what I was hoping to be a rhetorical question, "What does Industry spend their money on?" If you had a single shred of reading comprehension and a little self-awareness, you would have realized the answer was in your own statement "NPC sell orders, market fees and broker tax paid to NPC corps, LP stores."

Now go seek your caretaker and inform them you're on the internet unsupervised again. I'm afraid you aren't ready to communicate with other people outside of a controlled environment yet.
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>>161273681
It's RMT, jackass. That's where the money ends up. Plexes.
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How do I find a good null corp?
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>>161273935
The ISK used to buy PLEX never leaves the game you abject retard.
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>>161274341
So fucking what? You wanted to know what they spend it on and I told you. Fucking idiot.
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>>161274496
I don't think you know what RMT is
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>he doesn't know
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>>161274546
>use isk to buy shit
>ships plex, whatever
>sell them or sell them to those who do for cash
That's where the isk goes. That's the question you asked. If you want to know what the sinks are for industry, ask that question you tool.
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>>161274878
Thats not RMT

RMT is illegally exchanging real life money for in game currency outside of CCP's control
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>>161275009
RMT = Real Money Trading.

RMT covers legal trading as well as illegal, you sperg.
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>>161275009
>RMT is not RMT
You pretend very poorly.
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>>161275227
>>161275231


lol no it fucking doens't you guys are retarded

RMT is very explicitly defined in the EULA

buying plex from CCP is not RMT
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Should I join TEST?
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>>161275231
>>161275227
using the term RMT in the context of eve implies the illegal variety, since when you talk about normal RMT you're really talking about PLEX
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>>161275338
Nobody said anything about buying Plex from CCP. You asked where industry isk goes. The answer is plex, modules and ships that then get sold for cash. Your question is answered.
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>>161275453
You should settle this argument for us, then join Pupper or All-Out
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>>161274496
>I then asked you what I was hoping to be a rhetorical question
>You wanted to know what they spend it on and I told you.

Please seek help.
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>>161275935

What do Pupper and All-Out do?
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Refer me to your psychiatrist.
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>>161275952
What industrialists do with isk is not a rhetorical.
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>>161276041
>What do Pupper do?
Meme and spin ships.
c also, >>161215198

>What do All-Out do?
Wormhole with shit fits.
c also, >>161213787
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>>161276083
http://www.ssdrc.com/ssd-mental-retardation.html
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>>161275881
thats not RMT

RMT is REAL LIFE CASH going to game as in game currency

What you are describing is NOT rmt faggot
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>>161276280
>buy plex with real money
>sell plex for isk
>you have now exchanged real money for isk

im not sure how much simpler i can make this
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>>161276371
thats not RMT

RMT is explicitly defined against the eula. The only legal currency you can buy is from CCP.
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>>161276371
>Industrialists RMT!
>what?
>they buy plex from CCP for in game currency
>thats not RMT
>YESH IT ISH REEEEEEE
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>>161276432
Fucking god damn, I'm not even that Anon,
>RMT is explicitly defined against the eula.
but quit having your fucking awful semantics dick waggle.

Everyone here has a preformed conception of what RMT means.
It is a term that exists beyond the EULA.
No one agrees with you on that meaning.

Please move on with your discussion.
Fucking goddamn.
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>>161276371
>You have now exchanged real money for ISK
That ISK never leaves the game, we were referring to how to combat inflation, which means removing ISK from circulation. Just because value is transferred out of the system, doesn't mean the ISK was. That ISK is still in someone's wallet and doesn't leave, meaning inflation will continue.
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>>161276591
>they're getting plex off the market from CCP
>thats RMT
>thats not RMT, RMT is not from ccp which is illegal
>IT DOESNT FUCKIN MATTER
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>>161276706
>>161276706
>>161276706

NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD

>>161276706
>>161276706
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>>161276280
>you can pay cash for a Titan
>but this is not RMT because you must buy isk for that to count, then you spend the isk on a titan
Yeah okay, buddy.
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>>161276734
its too early for new thread, we're still like 250 posts short
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>>161276815
don't fukcign talk back to me faty
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>>161276762
Holy shit you are fucking retarded. You're confusing with users using their ISK to buy plex off market as RMT which is completely false. Thats not RMT, RMT has never had that definition. You are fucking retarded.

RMT is explicitly defined as purchasing Plex from an unauthorized third party retailer without CCP's consent. It is the exchange of IRL currency for in game currency unlawfully.

Its NOT RMT when you purchase plex from CCP or other AUTHORIZED third party retailers
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>>161276949
>I am going to pretend that you aren't talking about turning isk into plex and selling plex for cash and instead insist you are saying they buy plex with isk and use it because this is a great argument which will work out for me
Good luck with that, buddy.
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>>161277132
You're just pretending to be retarded, you can't be this thick
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>>161277180
Out of arguments, I see.
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>>161276690
And again, not the guy you've been arguing with.
My only other relevant post here was >>161275935

Now this is quite simple. Definitions are a tool to convey ideas.
Semiotics DO NOT NEED TO BE SYMMETRIC, they just need to be mutually understood.
When you say RMT and when he says RMT you are referring to different concepts.
But you *both* know what anyone means at any point, so your nitpick is superfluous.

Substitute your "RMT" with "use real money to acquire ISK through an illicit third party".
Substitute their "RMT" with "use real money to acquire ISK".
Read over the entire discussion so far. Then, both of you, quit being ponces.
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>>161277132
What industrialists do this? you're stupid as shit, no evidence for this RMT.

Sure people RMT but this isn't corroborate any theory of yours
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>>161277295
>what industrialists do RMT
The ones who aren't funding a pvp habit, anon.
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>>161277295
I had a CEO from Serbia a couple years back that went from fulltime NEET to owning a chain of internet cafes.

If you're spacerich and not RMTing you're playing EVE wrong.
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>>161277471
>>161277450
>my anecdotes and baseless inferences conclude that industrialists (as a blanket term) perform this illicit act despite having no real evidence this demographic of player does
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When are plex prices going to go back up
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>>161271554
Isk faucets aren't as big a deal is they would be assuming this was the real life economy/generic mmo economy.

A) ISK is pegged to the plex. that doesn't prevent inflation really but it prevents hyperinflation as isk now has an established value.

B) more importantly, isk is constantly being sequestered and hoarded by players who leave or just let that money sit around for ages.
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>>161208050
Been playing for a week and the thing that blows my mind is the trading. Lazy people are making my rich pretty quick. Flipping in this game is unreal and wish I had started it earlier lol. I'm addicted to the auction house now.
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Best types of items to flip? Ships?
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Can you still farm skill injectors from the tutorial missions? I read on here you could but haven't done it before and have no idea how far into the tutorial it is.
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>>161280041
supposedly GM's are deleting excess points you exploit. but thats hearsay from an anon
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>>161280181
How far into the tutorials is the skill injector? Is it one of the agent missions?
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>>161279645
Are you actually transporting shit out to other places and upping the price or something?
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>>161280041
>>161280247
Second or third part of the NPE
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>>161280247
it takes about 40 minutes to get the injector from starting the new character tutorial, if you use the starter afterburner
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>>161280452
Nope. Literally just sitting in Jita buying low and selling high. Didn't think it was possible but people are actually this stupid.
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>>161280492
>>161280513
Ah fuck I'm a scrub and not on a brand new account.
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>>161280593
Dare I ask what item it is you keep flipping?
Dare you spoil the money printer by telling me?
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>>161280896
And start using NEAT if you already aren't.

pwning.de SLASH neat
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new thread:

>>161276706
>>161276706
>>161276706
>>161276706
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN-i0jVa_yQ
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>>161280896
Are you sitting in Jita 4-4 or in one of the tax shelter citadels? Keep it up anon!
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>>161280748
Most items flip well.
Just stay out of Jita and Amarr.
You cannot out perform a bot.
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>>161281653

Is Amarr really no good? I've found it's not too bot-filled.
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>>161281746
The market speed mostly offsets the losses from what few bots it has.
But there *are* bots. And the market speed doesn't fully offset them.
Amarr is OK, but your time is better spent in slightly smaller trade hubs.
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Claymore
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>>161281225
if only he dropped that embarrassing voice bot thing it would be at least watchable.
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>>161281225
>atsf style EvE Videos

I dig it
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hulltank HFI
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Dead game.
Dead thread.
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>>161224881
deviation only matters when you need accuracy when you are making your probe bubbles smaller. saves you rescanning/time

probe strength is the #1 factor in whether you can even scan the signature down

yes they are seperate but think of deviation similar to scan speed
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>>161225964
I'm looking to join or make one
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Dead game

#firefozzie
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>>161231491
>is there something super rare that spawns only in data sites

yes, sleeper caches and ghost sites

if it's a pirate data site, it's shit.
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>>161271725
actually that would belong to Jury Rigging V

literally useless
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tfw afk mining
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>>161271725

Tactical Shield Manipulation V
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>>161271725
>what are lasers and bombs
>>161291203
>what is bleed through damage
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well well well why am i not surprised

i come back after months

AND

/eog/ is STILL fucking shit

lol
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>>161291951
>lol

Oh look it's a rerun of "look how shitty this place is whoops I made it worse"
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>>161291951

Back to r/eve and SA then.

Even before /vg/ eve was never a really popular game to talk about on /v/. It's not surprising that on /vg/ it's still a small shit show of a few unrelated people.

4chin is dying, leddit became much larger, faster and an easier place to have threads about multiple topics that stay for a day (and even reddits threads contain so fucking many that just don't have anything to say beyond, 'hey look at my pic' or 'this random comment from a known person'. The shitstorms and controversy haven't really effected this thread like they have r/eve. It's just a wholly irrelevant platform unfortunately.

This thread sucks because the topic is too wide and people don't want to identify or out themselves. There's also lots of bad advice, pointless one liners and a whole 91 people total posting over the course of a whole day. Simply don't have the population to keep the general interesting, probably only a few hundred tops lurking.
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>>161294197
>and people don't want to identify or out themselves
well you know that the point of anonymous posting

this is probably the best general cus no namefags or tripfags
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>>>161294197 leddit became much larger, faster and an easier place
Even reddit is dying because of that admin overlap bullshit. Get on voat, son.
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>>161280593
What tool do you use to keep track of your trades
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How is CCP so retarded that they have declining revenues for three years straight coupled with increasing inflation of their currency
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>>161294312

Whilst I agree that is the core downside to forums and reddit (I dislike that format, because of the issues associated with 'older accounts', cliques etc you get in forums, the shitstain that is the karma system) it also gives a platform to out yourself and give information that is somewhat trust-able (but it's eve and you never know really how much people are lying).

But you then get the associated problems. So 4chan isn't really great for attempting to organise things like you can sometimes see on r/eve. It's why all alliances need an internal forum, slack, discord, skype etc. Shit's too well organised for the pure chaos of even reddit, yet alone here (see the brave era).

As for why topics ain't that good here? Just how many are here talking and how often do posts happen. Just not fast enough in my eyes.

>>161294512

Not sure what you mean here, I browse reddit for r/eve only and at that once a week or more if something major is happening. Are you talking about over zealous moderation, like you get on forums. I've honestly found some of the attitudes on r/eve to be entertaining and imageboard like at times.

Rambling sorry.
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>>161294976
>I browse reddit for r/eve only
The "smaller" subreddits are mostly fine, but the "major" subreddits that are responsible for most of reddit's traffic have like 85% admin overlap each.
And pretty much every one of them is a corrupt douche. The site has been losing significant net traffic (and ad revenue) lately because of it.
Doesn't effect the smaller subreddits much, but reddit is going through hard times.
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100mn + scram or point +web?
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>>161297687
Yes
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>ask a normal question
>get a meme answer
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>>161298429
wheredoyouthinkweare.vtf
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>>161298429
>being a normie

GET OUT!!! GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>exploring
>naming wormholes as "[system] fire exit"

gate campers btfo
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>>161300814
stop being gay
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>>161300814
number system best system
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>>161300814
i just name my exit chain "home1" "home2" "home3" etc

k-space wormholes don't get named
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>>161301385
best
system
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>>161302325
>all that useless white space
>all connections are green, no based color-coding

Siggy's a buggy piece of shit but it's still better than this.
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>>161302952
>but it's still better than this.
nope

vippy is by far the #1 tool out there.

Also connections are colour coded fagnugget
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>>161303058
Ok vippy dev
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>implying shard can code
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wormholes are gay
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Hey guys johnny here, just letting you know that this game is dead and im having so much fun in WoW. enjoy your game cucks.
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So how do wormholes work? From what I've seen in game, wormholes in other wormholes are usually unstable and collapse within days. How does one set up shop in WH space with a clear map of which WH goes where if the entrances and exits are changing all the time? What am I missing here
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>>161303614
j-space systems have static connections that roll into a new system when one wormhole expires.
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>>161303614
>How does one set up shop in WH space with a clear map of which WH goes where if the entrances and exits are changing all the time?

By putting a starbase/citadel in here, and keeping track of the opening and closing of connections, duh.
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So I'm out mining and there's this container named [Anti-CODE Awareness Beacon - Information Pamphlets Within] It's empty, anyone have any idea what the contents are?
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>>161304305
>It's empty
You tell me
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>>161304305
some douchebag took all the pamphlets instead of just one
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>>161304403

When can we get something like that in game. An item that's just a text doc we can pass around and leave in space, that's more than just dropping a dozen cans and naming them.
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>>161304742
you can name a bookmark after a puush of a paste of a link to a thread
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Is anything in Jita not a scam?
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>>161304958
i assure you my contract isnt a scam
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>>161304958
Im curious about this aswell, why would i even go there if theres nothing but scams
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>>161305053
Largest market hub in the game, it's nice if you want to stock up on things.
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>>161304958
>>161305053

A good rule of thumb is just to treat everything as scams
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>ccp is so incompetent they need daily maintenance

haha i like it i love it a lot
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>comparing wow linux desktops with TQ server
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shut up
i was doing some comfy exploration
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>>161305835
wut anime?
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>>161306049
I'll tell you for 500mil
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how long until my cosmic signatures respawn
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>>161306259
Ill give you 20k isk when eve goes online if you tell me
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>>161306049
Fate/Kaleid liner Prisma Illya 2wei!
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>>161306882
Thanks, anime looks like shit though.
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>>161215780
This is a genuinely good game and more fun to play than eve.
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>>161219935
His mom's pretty ace
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>>161234678
Alphas are cannon fodder

fun to farm, and disposable so you don't lose much if your alpha fleet gets rekt.
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>>161306380
what is going on with this? i logged in after DT yesterday and it took like 20 mins for sigs to appear
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>>161241225
The amarr banana is getting it
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anyone know if mini skill injectors can still be stacked?
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>>161308853

Yes
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anyone else item claim items go missing?

I had a tristan quafe skin with 70 days before expiration sitting in my item claim, now it's gone.
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>>161309163
>shit skin for shit ship
nothing of value was lost
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>>161309207
kys
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>>161309271
i dont kiss faggots sorry
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>>161309207
yeah it's like a 5mil skin or whatever, I'm more concerned about item claim items going missing
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Vexor or thorax for alpha mission running / ratting?
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The interface kind of needs work desu

t. alpha
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>>161307917

It's fateshit. You'll need a shit load of precursor knowledge or interest in magical girls to watch. Does include many a little girls kissing and molesting little girls.
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>>161310651
Only recently started watching anime after years of avoiding it. Magical girls is not for me. But thanks for the info.
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>open d scan while in null with corp
>see shiny ship
>comment about shiny ship

>"Spy"
>"What the fuck"
>"That makes people angry/nervous anon, don't do it"

What the fuck eog? The owner was a fucking alliance member, and if I wanted to gank/steal/fuck with their ship, why would I alert them to that fact?

Is the whole "no talking about ships" "no talking in null" "no talking in local" thing really this prevalent, or was I just around a bunch if cucks? As I have never seen/heard of this before?
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>>161311359
I've been told to not talk about really special ships but that's it in my case. I don't know if people are overly paranoid about spies or not.
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>>161311447
This was a super carrier, but it was so fucking deep in Alliance space that they have one in most systems...
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>>161311527
Better safe than sorry in Null I guess?
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>>161311580
Yeah I guess, but it rubbed me up the wrong way. Like this section of null is locked down so tight.
They have a fleet of stealth bombers just a few jumps away etc, makes no sense to me,

Maybe it's time to join Goon/Pupper and just break things.
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>>161311359
You have to take comments like that with a grain of salt, especially the "spy" comment, which is a meme. But there's also no reason to talk about supercapital ships in Local.
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>>161311359
it's called opsec

basically, don't talk about titans, supercarriers and fleets. everything else is fine.

and yes it's like 90% redundant because good spies will be watching d-scan and all communication channels anyway.
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>>161311692
>>161311703
This was my point tho, like how is it not totally redundant?
If I wanted to spy, I would say nothing, and just fly around dscanning and listening in on corp/alliance chat.


Regardless, I won't do it again, but now I really really really want to gank that super
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>>161311665
If comments like that make you salty, don't even think about joining goons.
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>>161311957
goons are pretty chill
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>>161311957
I don't get salty easily, but I get salty when people get all hurt over what I decide to type over the internet.
It is equivalent to someone being genuinely upset by one of my 4chan posts, I get salty that they are so fucking retarded.
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>>161311873
Basically if there is a spy in comms it makes their job that much easier
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>>161312240
How so? How does saying "cool ship" to a super make it any easier to spy on anyone?
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>>161312312
>how does pointing out the location of supercaps make it easier to spy?
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>>161312503
>everyone in local is the same corp/alliance

Who am I point it out to bud?
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>tfw when you want to see nullsec but are afraid of getting bullied
Is EVE really just a game for dudebros and fat middle aged men with beards?
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>>161312609
>he thinks there isn't spies in his corp/alliance
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>>161312659
>he thinks spies wouldn't be using dscan in system actively searching for supers

Honestly? at most I might save them 15 seconds of work they would have done regardless?
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The Moa looks so good, I want to fly it ;_;

Someone gift ISK and skillbooks
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>>161313029
Yeah she's a beaut
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So is the rifter still the best bang for buck as far as low sp memeing goes, or has that been overtaken by another fit/ship/class with the current Alpha caps?
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>>161313142
what were they thinking when they made this abomination, its literally screaming "kill me"
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>>161313210
it's probably the worst frigate in the game
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>>161312868
>>161312189
That's just how big EVE groups are. FCs and alliance leadership think every line member is a subhuman ape who can barely form coherent thoughts.
The only way out is to become a FC/get into leadership.
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>>161313638
not all groups are as autistic as this, just most of them
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>>161313831
Is there no way to find just a group of angry retards to roam around with?

That's all I ever wanted, to just blow shit up.
I don't care about losing ships, I don't care about fleet comps, I don't care wtf I am flying, I just want non-autistic comms, people who don't have to play safe 24/7, and a sniff at this sandbox actually being a FUN GAME again...
Or is this just too much to ask?

>>161313440
Suggest me better, a tristan maybe?
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>>161314214
best t1 frigates for solo nullsec are breacher kestrel tristan
for lowsec, tormentor tristan
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>>161314214
You can have the safety of being in a group, and having to deal with everything that is intended to make said group safe, or you can just go at it alone.
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>>161315097
Are you telling me there is no one else in Eve who simply doesn't give a fuck about being safe?
Not even fleets of alpha frigates bankrolled by a handful of industry alts?
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>>161315219
There's nothing stopping you from organizing it.
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Russians are cowards.
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>>161310214
it was a lot better before the alpha program, believe it or not
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>>161313142
which side is up?
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Americans ruined EVE
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>>161315343
i hate all the interface changes they made over the past few years, everything used to be so simple
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>>161315461
>switching between characters is quick and easy, doesn't even require relaunching the client
>clearly we need to make it harder to encourage people to just run multiple accounts instead
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>highsec
>mercenary
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>>161315614
>button is still log off
>exits the game instead
>>
Daily reminder that the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better than the moros in every field of the world
>>
Daily reminder that neuts and webs are ewar
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>>161317724
>taking pride in being the second most shit
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>>161312659
There's not
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>>161314319
>tristan for nullsec
>tristan for lowsec
>i have a gallente alpha
yes
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>>161318069
At least I'm not a moros
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newbie here just learned about skill points, is there any other way to gain them rather than buying 0.6mln isk skill injector?
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>>161318971
queue them up and gain them passively
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>>161318971
You passively gain SP when training skills. You can increase the SP gain through remapping your attributes, or learning implants that increase your attributes.
>>
what is a good ship for ratting in a c3?
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>>161318257
it also can do literally anything - brawl with blasters, scramkite brawl with rails, be retarded and fits neuts, or kite like a faggot
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>>161319191
gutengs
>>
>Everyone in PvP
>Literally no bonus to isk for wasting ships
>Join corp
>Get owned by war
>Go solo
>Havin' a good time, just ask for help when I need it
>Makin' ISK, chilling and relaxing

THE FIRST THING YOU NEED TO DO IS JOIN A CORP HURRRRRRRRRR
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>>161320194

Just quit mine too

What are you doing for isk?
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I need friends in this game! Add me IG: Popo Biggs
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>>161320307
It's not the best way, but just chillin' in a Procurer and mining and relaxing.
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>>161321051

Fair enough m80

I'm just about to start running l4s in a rattlesnake because I've got more SP than actual knowledge of this game
>>
>>161321051
And then you get canned by CODE
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>>161321325
>giving two shits about CODE
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>>161322084
>just lost my ship to code but idgaf
>>
I got back into EVE after a two year break a couple weeks ago. Been flying with SPECTRE and had a lot of fun roams in throw away frigs. Only have to run a couple missions or mine for about an hour to buy all the ships I need for roams, which is good because I'm really busy irl.

I'd recommend people check out spectre fleet in game, anyone can tag along with fleets and they're pretty good at explaining for new people, although the specific T1 roams are probably the best for newbros.
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>>161322084
Have CODE gotten iced for fighting NPC miners yet?
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>>161322259
A bunch of them got banned for delaying Concord a few days ago

hopefully a day comes when the entire sect gets wiped out
>>
>Find PvP boring as fuck pretty much all of the time
>Have the time of my life in mining ops

Am I just a carebear at heart?
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>>161322401
Probably, but that doesn't matter as long as you're having fun.
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>>161322330
>A bunch of them got banned for delaying Concord a few days ago
OK, that's what they were doing, but they were multiboxing Alphas to do it (which was the actual ban reason).
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>>161322401
Yes. that's not necessarily a bad thing though. As it's been said many times before, you play EVE to have fun and as long as you're enjoying what you're doing, you're being successful.

DESU I got really bored of pvp, it was one of the main reasons I left. But that was the wrong kind of pvp- big strat-ops which took hours to organise, move out then you'd often just shoot a POS and when we did get engaged, it was still dull. Lock primary, shoot, repeat, get redboxed, broadcast for reps, die. Or spend hours travelling home and god forbid you need the loo or you're stuck on your own in a battleship in enemy space.

So yeah, sometimes pvp sucks balls.

Now, small ship stuff roaming where you either disengage or are killed within a couple hours and score some big kills with small ships, that's a lot better.
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t. doesn't know shit about pvp
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>made the full switch to a drone boat
>constantly forgetting to scoop my drones up
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I read up on the planetary passive income today while at work, but one thing escapes me.

If the PI system is around for about 6 years, arent all the good planets already taken? Or are the resources instanced per client? Cause I dont want to waste time training up, finding a good planet, gettin the shit together only to find out everything is taken already.
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>>161320194
But now you know what you're doing. I fly solo myself atm, have groups of people I can rely on in a bind, but when I started I hadn't a clue what I was doing and if I didn't join a corp when I did, I doubt I'd still be playing all these years later.
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>>161322881
resources are split between extractors in the area and can regenerate over long periods of time. So yes, there will be places which have been under PI for a long time and where other players are it could be crap, but there are still MANY planets out there. In null and WH space it's easy to find a good planet. highsec not so much but you can make an amount of passive isk still.
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>>161322881
No because there are tons of plants and tons of resources, people change planets all the time for what ever their needs are. Also the planet resources shift all over the planet so there definitely not taken

But yes you definitely need at least 6 characters to get good money from it. And the latter 3 characters don't even use the planet for its resources because they're used to make the next tier up with materials you already received
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>>161322551
>>161322806
Fair enough, I've found that PvP can be fun but most of the time it just isn't for me. But I also die a lot more than I survive so that'd probably explain it.
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>>161323169
So thats how it works, thanks.

>>161323287
So that means 3 character´s planets can be stuck in a comfy hisec? Good ... still not sure if I have the hauling capacity to set up shop in a wormhole... I dont have T2 haulers trained and flying there with a badger seems a bit suicidal.

Anyway, thanks for the info.
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>>161323508
Don't do planetary interaction in Highsec, the yields are shit. Only do it in null
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>it's a corp drama episode
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>>161323508
If you're ONLY doing PI in a wormhole, don't bother. since connections to each WH change constantly, you could easily lose it. You'd be operating from a wormhole with a POS and probably more than one probe ship permanently in the 'hole to probe out new connections as they spawn. Doing it from highsec wouldn't really work.
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>>161323287
>But yes you definitely need at least 6 characters to get good money from it.
If you *only* have 3 characters then just do Processors, not Extractors.
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If I 'Give Money' to an alt, does the wallet entry disappear after one month? I need to be certain, there can't be any confusion.
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>connections to each WH change constantly,
>you could easily lose it.
What are statics.
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>>161322858
I know your pain, forced to droneboat gallente since clone is gallente but I always used missiles and lasers in the past.
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>>161324321
I still have wallet entries from over a month ago.
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>>161324321
It'll stay on the api until it runs off the end of 256 entries
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>>161324359
>implying statics link to one system only
>Implying flying a hauler halfway across the cluster for one WH planet system is fun or profitable
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>>161324780
>The journal is configured to provide up to one month worth of data. Since each request returns at most 2560 entries, you can walk forwards and backwards in the journal to retrieve more entries.

So If I'm just trading, I can flood certain entries off the board.
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>>161324803
>implying statics link to one system only
If you prepare to reliably find a static, you can reliably find a static.
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>>161325046
Generally but if you're trying to join a Corp that is particularly suspicious to have a ton of trades between characters that trade virtually nothing. The same for contracts. People write tons of bullshit blank contracts to let scam contracts fall off the end
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>>161323317
Try neutralizers.
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Are Amarr ships as good as they are A e s t h e t i c ?
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>>161325696
amarr ships are the best in every category
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>>161325696
They're great when you have the right fitting/support skills, which Alpha's don't. Pecking order is probably

>Gallente
>Caldari/Amarr (Depends on the category)
>.....
>.....
>Minmatar
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>>161325913
Why is minmatar so shit? And why is Gallente the best while looking as ugly as nurgling sin?
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>>161326223
0/10 shit opinions kys
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>>161326223
shitposters want to trick new players into picking gallente
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>>161321325
I dont can.
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>>161326223
More indepth, ignore the memers

https://crossingzebras.com/small-gang-tier-list-part-1-frigates/

https://crossingzebras.com/small-gang-tier-list-part-2-cruisers/

https://crossingzebras.com/battlecruiser-tier-list/

https://crossingzebras.com/small-gang-tier-list-part-4-battleships/
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>>161326223
>Why is minmatar so shit?
Their gimmick is doing to weapon types poorly.
Don't worry though, Svipul are Minmatar.
>And why is Gallente the best while looking as ugly as nurgling sin?
They just have a lot of good ships at the moment.
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>>161276706

>>161276706

>>161276706

New thread.
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This on'es not quite dead yet, plus Kevin isn't real.
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>>161326642
thanks kevin
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making new threads isn't hard m8, how are you so bad at it

>>161326513
the frigate and cruiser articles are out of date, and the battlecruiser and battleship articles seem to be in some fucked up on readable text
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>>161326723
YOU'RE not real!!!
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the real kevin isn't as much of a faggot as you
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>>161327142
RUDE!
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>>161327142 By that line of reasoning, the real Kevin steers clear of 4chan. Are they a goon, maybe?
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why is everyone posting in the wrong thread
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>J155711

stopped reading there
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Is there decent money in gas cloud harvesting? I want to know before I spend 24 million fucking ISK on the skill book.
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>>161333074
yep
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fine I'll go to the shit thread. fuck you kevin, you really messed up this time
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>>161214079
Mining is never worth it
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Are these Gorski Car guides legitimate?
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>>161249381

It happens. Just finished cleaning up my home C2 and after 15 cans i only had 42 mil to show for it.
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>>161323863
A cozy lowsec pirate allaince I was in was lost to drama surrounding a lady
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>>161340783
I don't actually play but back when I did Gorski always killed me. He's a good pvper.
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