/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

3rd for warhammer

>>161193154
/gsg/ is a WARHAMMER GENERAL. all non-gehemiseninacht posters must assimilate or have their titles revoked for being infidels.

anyone have the latest version of the geheminazireicht mod?

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>>161193154
*tips Ghal-Maraz*

>>161193261
Are you being fucking serious right now

>>161193341
yea why? I don't see it in this thread and it isnt linked in the OP

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the MEIOU and Taxes for eu4 from the mega crashes on loading flags.

game version is 1.18

what am I doing wrong?

>>161193395
Please die immediately

>>161193395
It was posted literally 10 minutes ago on the last thread

>>161193472
well shit I just got here how am I supposed to know to look on the old thread?

>>161193460
>>161193472
not to mention it's in the archive
he's probably just shitposting

>>161193261
Fun fact: if you google "geheminazireicht" this thread is the only result.

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>>161193520
For your efforts

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>>161193449
>>161193583
help please

>>161193636
"no"

>>161193757

....

This damn part in the EU main theme that's similar to Klendathu Drop from the Starship Troopers soundtrack. Always makes me feel like I need to declare war.

>>161193102
No, it's good now, but having more unique national ideas will improve it. Its mechanics are sound, unlike EU4.

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>>161193930
>Always makes me feel like I need to declare war.
You always need to declare war, lad. You always need to declare war.

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>>161193530
where?

>>161193975
>Its mechanics are sound
ayyo hold up
*spends political mana to justify war*
is you saying
*spends political mana to annex austria*
so you be saying
*spends political mana to take a new national focus*
we be some kinda
*spends political mana to remove ministers*
GRAND STRATEGY GAME?!?
*draws single arrow to moscow*

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>you can play as a holy order in gehemnisnazi but not vanilla
Paradox Development studios should just kill themselves.

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This is the average paradox fan

>>161194151
Its political mana is about on par with Vicky diplo mana. It's basically a way of cooldown-gating your employment of ministers, while also letting you make the decision to delay that if you really want to change another nations' political alignment.

>*draws single arrow to moscow*
That's just for the noobs, anyone skilled will use that as the basis for setting up a front but will micromanage all the units. There's nothing wrong with the meme arrows.

>>161194259
>sure ive spent close to 300 dollars on this game, but each dlc makes it deeper and more enjoyable
>blitzkrieg is Literally a paid feature in hoi4
How do you go from how based Parados were five years ago to THIS?

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>>161194259

>>161194383
>There's nothing wrong with the meme arrows.
Alright, you've had your fun, time to go back.

>>161194383
>There's nothing wrong with the meme arrows.
Except that they can easily play the game for you. Sure, you could micromanage the eastern front, but you could as well send 200 divisions straight for Moscow and be done with it. Which leads to the main problem, the brain dead AI

>>161194489
No one is forcing you to use the arrows.

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>>161194470

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>>161194106

>>161193149
How do I recruit state troops? I can't find anything in the forums.

>>161194569
Alright, you've had your fun, time to go back.

>>161194669
I'm not even the same guy I'm just saying the truth.

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>>161194609

>>161194662
>go to forum
>search this forum
>state troops
Wow that was hard.
Anyway, existing regiments are in the mercenaries tab, they're your vassals and have a "Raise" instead of a "Hire" button. To found a new regiment, select one of your demesne provinces, right click the county thingy and select "Found regiment" or something like that. It's a major up-front investment, but it's worth it

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>>161194754

I have formed SGF as Austria, what is the optimal composition of puppets out of the former Austrian territory?
i changeownered venice to me

>>161194489
>>161194669
The arrows are just a way of automating the basic battle line, micromanagement is still necessary to play the game well.

>>161194504
The meme arrows will only beat the AI meme arrows if yours are significantly stronger in the first place.

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Have you guys voted on steam yet?

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>>161194880
>mfw I've accidentaly unchecked the search on this forum box
Thanks, I'll see if I can go through this trainwreck alive.

>>161195007
>micromanagement is still necessary to play the game well.
But that's the point, you don't need to play the game well. Just open up a second front or maybe just a second advance and bam, you've outplayed the AI

>>161194931
>>161194754
>>161194609
>>161194470
>>161194259
Are you gonna post these every single thread?
Anyways I'm sure these 6 individuals accurately portray every single Paradox fan.

>>161195245
Yes I will. And they don't represent every paradox fan, that's not the meaning of the word average lad.

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>>161195117
Happens to the best of us

>>161195245
He's shitposting. Don't reply.

>>161195146
Did you only play the game on release day or something? The AI has already improved, and if you play on veteran difficulty and buff the AI it can be challenging unless you're playing a superior nation.

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So what should my goals be here?

>>161195485
>The AI has already improved, and if you play on veteran difficulty and buff the AI it can be challenging unless you're playing a superior nation.
Sure the game can be challenging if you're playing as Luxembourg >inb4 someone posts that Luxembourg blob. But that's beside the point. If a WW2 game has you complete Unternehmen Barbarossa with minimal losses within a fewmonths it probably isn't a veryy good WW2 game

>>161195117
>pernalonga assustado.png

>>161195679

Can't Paragay bekomm Gross?

>>161195146
>>161195710
Just play Blackice mod
>inb4 autist saying how you need an overhaul mod just for the game to be good
we use mods for every single game on here..

>>161195679
Argentina and Uruguay so you can form United Provinces

>>161195710
I agree to some extent. I currently think the game's biggest flaw (possibly aside from the poor naval AI) is the fact that the countries with unique national ideas are too strong to be much fun, but the countries that are weaker don't have unique national ideas. I'm looking forward to the updates which have more national ideas though, we're getting India, Canada, Australia, South Africa and NZ national ideas in the next few weeks.

>giving (you)s to GOY4 shills
I thought you were better than this.

>>161195826
>we use mods for every single game on here
Most of these games at least present a basic challenge in their vanilla state though

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>>161195117
VAMPIRE KEKS ABSOLUTELY BTFO

WE WILL BE MAKING THE EMPIRE GREAT AGAIN SOON, LADS

>>161196185
did u steal the ring?

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>>161196185
>warscore at -4
Nice try, fleshbag

>>161195679
Paraguay's natural border is the Rio Grande

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>>161196185
THE MADMAN ACTUALLY SCRAMBLED ALL OF HIS REMAINING TROOPS IN A DESPERATE LAST ATTEMPT TO CONQUER ME

>>161196240
No.

>>161196356
He occupied my capital for a short period of time. Look at the warscore now.

Do Lizardmen have good content in Geheimnisnacht?

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>>161196558
ABSOLUTELY BTFO

>>161196572
I have no idea, honestly.

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Alright, the 3 France tags are (mostly) done, so now I'm moving on to re-doing the French Dominions.

I've already started the re-adding of the Pied-Noirs, who can gradually be settled there much like how the French New Zealand system works. by paying a fuck ton of money (up to three times), you can send more and more people there to become Pied-Noirs. After you've send settlers there 3 times and have made the areas into states, you'll once again be able to gain cores on Algeria, at the cost of boatloads of militancy from the natives and a bit from the French people as well.

As for other possible avenues of early-game colonial expansion, I'm pretty undecided. I know Australia is a popular one suggested here if done by event (to bypass the massive infamy costs), and some weird historical footnotes also exist like the french lawyer who made himself king of Patagonia

Anyway, enough with my rambling, what kind of places do you guys think France should be able to make into actual settler colonies?

Has anyone formed the new Golden horde yet?

>>161196916
>of the Sylvania
This always triggers me

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>>161195818
I can conquer get cores on all that wasteland, yes. Just tested and all I'd have to do is conquer the adjacent Argentinean substate to get the decision, and either become a GP or research N&I before 1865/the Argentinean AI researches it.
>>161195826
>Argentina and Uruguay so you can form United Provinces
If I wanted that I'd just play as Argentina desu

What should my goal borders be?

>>161197086
These:

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>>161195864
>I'm looking forward to the updates which have more national ideas though, we're getting India, Canada, Australia, South Africa and NZ national ideas in the next few weeks
reminder this is what the Paradox team could come up with for naming national ideas for NZ, fucking memers

>>161197000
>hpm will never integrate this
Literally why? I assume it's all historical?

>>161197086
Lisboa-Cape-Tokyo triangle

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>>161197086
Forgot the fucking pic again

>>161197132
"Ecks dee, ecks dee." - Johan Andersson.

>>161197135
A lot of other countries lack historical flavour that would make them OP as fuck, fixing it for just one nation would unbalance the whole game.

>>161196185
>>161196558
>>161196916
Dial down the memes you motuhbreather

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>>161197000
>what kind of places do you guys think France should be able to make into actual settler colonies?
Argentina, specifically Patagonia

>>161197065
>conquer get cores
conquer and get cores*
>either become a GP or research N&I before 1865/the Argentinean AI researches it.
[...] to take the decision*

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>>161196916
Now I just need to spam prestige, pick a diplomacy focus and spam piety in order to prepare for the great blob wars.

>>161197062
I haven't noticed that until now desu, lad.

>>161197321
I've stopped with them already, lad. I was just too excited from the rape of the spooky army.

>>161197253
Then don't make it OP?

>>161197346
OUI

>>161197135
I'd say it's decently historical, but hpm might not like some parts of it like the Quebec or New Zealand event chains.

I try to take into account that it's always going to be a player playing France with this mod, so they're already going do non-historical things. With that in mind, I try to make flavor events for things France players tend to already do like reclaiming Quebec, Anschlussing Wallonia, Natural Borders, etc.

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>>161197512
I've noticed that the heir of Talabecland still isn't betrothed to anyone so I'll just propose to the princess to marry her to my heir in order to grab these lands later on.

>>161197647
What's the NZ stuff based on?

>>161197135
Not historical, it's all frankwank basically.
It's like commiemod, it's ridiculously biased towards something making it laughably easy and unbalanced.

>>161197647
Do you plan to expand your mod into other countries/make another mod?

>>161197647
I've been away for a while, what's exactly your minimod? It looks pretty interesting. You have a changelog or something to give me a tldr? Or can you just give me a quick one.

>>161197346
This, it's the only unclaimed part of the map that even can be turned into a settler colony.

>>161197782
>>161197647
Well if he had it all cost a decent amount of infamy, namely, what it would cost in vanilla, with some ebin flavour text then what's tp stop him integrating it? Just don't add any "frankiums must be grande" decisions, giving you free cores over all the territory they had in 1812.

>>161197746
French guy who immigrated to New Zealand purchased some land and told people from France to immigrate there (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akaroa#French_settlement) apparently working with a French colony company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanto-Bordelaise_Company).
It works because the French company only lost their land in New Zealand after the English purchased all of it 1849

>>161197205
Lebensraum I guess

>>161197962
It would still make the game unbalanced as fuck as infamy means shit for GPs.

Paying to send people to colonies etc is overpowered as fuck and it isn't really that historical in the era.

A mod focusing in making a single country OP like that, especially a fucking GP, is hardly going in a mod that tries to keep balance.

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>>161197732
I'll create a merchant republic at in order to increase the income for the glorious Empire of Reikland and to fuel the coffers for the future reunification wars.

Electors voting for Maria Theresia without pragmatic sanction and the HRE going poof is a bug, right?

>>161197346
Not to mention that the Argentineans and Chileans were fearful of European intervention and possible colonization in Patagonia, while in HPM there's absolutely no reason for a player led Argentina/Chile to care about that.

How do I make so that Sakhalin and Hokkaido stop being barren wastelands in HPM?

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>>161197346
Patagonia would be pretty simple to do, but the rest of Argentina is too populated and established (and France lacks any historical claim to the place, unlike say Quebec)

>>161197746
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanto-Bordelaise_Company

While France didn't put any serious effort into colonizing the place, they did have a presence, and Australasia is so underpopulated and unimportant in the beginning of the game that it isn't hard to believe that the UK might not care enough to risk war to keep them. French Australia is a bit weirder, I'd have to see what the general consensus is on the possibility.

>>161197785
I wouldn't really be opposed to it, but I plan to stick to just France for the foreseeable future.

>>161197860
http://pastebin.com/CNBMtDsZ

Be warned it doesn't work currently since I'm in the process of overhauling it

>>161197782
>>161197962
I'd say that it isn't that far out (for example, you can't get cores on the Natural borders unless you actually already own said land. As for examples like NZ and Quebec, you get decent infamy compared to their actual worth, and you lose all cores on them once you actually own them (it just adds cores to facilitate a cb without throwing you immediately into war).

>>161198437
Fascist and emigrate national focus on other states maybe? Dunno, personally never tried it. Once you get provinces which have RGOs full they might voluntarily migrate there.

>>161198484
>(for example, you can't get cores on the Natural borders unless you actually already own said land.
>Coring all the land instantly
>not far out
>I get infamy
>so it's not far out
It's really just frankwank, it's horribly unbalanced. It's like giving germany cores up to the urals.

>>161198242
From 1.19 Patchnotes:
>HRE Eligibility will now check the current ruler if the target is not the current emperor, and the heir if they are, instead of both.
Paradox must've fucked up the checks.

>>161198578
>emigrate national focus
That shit actually works? Do I have to use it in conjunction with the immigration one?

>>161197782

Honestly, HPM could use some Red Biennium flavor. It's at the tail end of the game, so barely noticeable, but the Red Biennium following the great war was fucking all kind of shit up. General strikes were crippling Britain, fascism arose in response to blind labor activism.

>>161198757
Like I said I never tried it but its worth a shot, tell us what happens.

>>161198484
Thanks man

>>161198857
Maybe I'll do it later, can you ask HPM if the emigration NF actually works (and if so how) the next time he shows up?

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>declare war on aragon with Ottobros
>they keep hanging around in the desert
Nice AI Paradox.

>>161199004
Hes been pretty inactive but I'll ask if I see him

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>>161198587
The actual infamy comes from conquering all the land. off the top of my head you have to:

-Annex Belgium (11 infamy for a state, 22 for the rest)
-Annex Luxembourg (22 Infamy)
-Annex the Prussian Rhineland (11 Infamy)
-Annex a Bavarian state (11 Infamy)
-Annex a Dutch state (11 infamy)

So you have a max cost of 88 infamy. While that can be mitigated by justifications and a few french decisions/events, it's still a ton of infamy that you can't expend on colonies/extra war goals/etc.

>>161199134
That's assuming everything is discovered day one.
Getting cores on all of it is still broken as fuck.

>>161198587
>It's like giving germany cores up to the urals.
You act as if this is an unreasonable thing to suggest.

>>161199134
>-Annex Luxembourg (22 Infamy)
Or at the start if the game do acquire state on Belgium on games that have Lux owned by Bel at the start

>>161199350
Thats still 11 infamy since Luxembourg is in the Rheinland region and not Wallonia

>>161197000
>Pied-Noirs
Will they be a completely separate culture? If so, I'd advise against that, since aside from events the pops won't be able to grow. This could create situations where you have, say, 50% native pop, 30% pied noir pops from events, and 20% French pops from migration. There really isn't any point in creating the new culture when French works just fine.

>>161199282
True, but you're still looking at large amounts of infamy, as well as other consequences like causing the NGF/SGF to unify via an HPM event, owning a land full of rebels and few accepted POPs, etc.

As for cores they work as both a reward for the player if they pursue this goal, and it represents France forcing the international community to recognize their natural borders being a part of France (not that this implies all is well in the world, considering the Belgian/Dutch/German cores covering the area, since they too consider parts of the areas as integral parts of their nation),

>>161199479
still 11 less than it could be

leave France Minimod Guy alone! he is white, based, and more importantly, he is actually making a mod

>>161198203
Make sure to found it with a member of your dynasty as the original patriarch.

>>161199567
>like causing the NGF/SGF to unify via an HPM event
Makes easier for you to conququer the land and getting less infamy in the proess.

>owning a land full of rebels and few accepted POPs
Like this is a problem to any GP.
Even if you lose the land you still have the cores.

It's unbalanced and it isn't historical at all.

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what am I missing to become SGF?

>>161199686
>its another I hate fun poster

>>161199504
Pied-Noirs are a separate culture like they used to be, but they'll grow both due to decisions, modifiers, and natural growth. And while French could work, I've noticed that very few, if any, french pops will migrate to Algeria anyway, making french pops migrating a non-issue. I'll test it out a few times though, and if French migration is great enough then I'll leave them as French pops

>>161199793
Rome, Moscow, Paris, Berlin and all of Africa

>>161199793
Racial purity.





Not even meming, you need to release the slavs.

>>161199817
Could at least make them optional? My favorite part of Victoria 2 is culture blobbing and painting the map in one culture. Having a Pied-Noir culture, especially one that doesn't cover all of French Africa and just Algeria, ruins that.

>>161199802
>you don't agree these thigns are balanced
>you hate "fun"
This is way /v/ a long time ago started the "fun is a buzzword" shit. Retards like you use to justify any bad decisions.

You can have fun with whatever the fuck you want, I don't care. It's a fucking mod, if you want to make a cheat mod, no one would give a fuck. I'm just playing devil's advocate on why this shouldn't go in HPM and why it's not balanced.

>>161199817
>like they used to be
Wait, vanilla had peed nors?

>>161199976
You said it was unhistorical, not unbalanced.

Why are crusades in CK2 so fucking autistic? Seriously, it doesn't matter if all of Europe teams up against the t*rks. because the t*rks blob into one uber army while all the european nations keep their armies seperate which are then picked apart one by one.
How do I subvert this?

>Pied-Noir
literally what?

>>161199950
which slavs?

How to westernize as an unciv in Victoria 2?
I thought it would be an easy snooze fest to just get as many research points and clergy as you can but then you have to deal with the militancy and rebels.

>>161200061
It's both.


>>161197782
>Not historical
>and unbalanced.

>>161199793
Since you've already formed the SGF as a puppet, I don't think you can become it anymore. However, I'd you were to restart the game/revert to a previous save, to form it you can't own any provinces that aren't cores. That means anything that isn't in Austria proper, Slovenia, Istria, South Tyrol, or Bohemia-Moravia.

>>161200174
is this possibly the best thread in months?

>>161200152
Then don't play it. Some of us will though and appreciate his effort.

>>161200185
ah, alright thanks

>>161200105
If you don't have isolationism, get the least expensive military reform and blob with impunity, releasing puppets if necessary. If you do have isolationism, such a GP's dick until you get sphered by them. Also read the wiki.

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>Declare war on a two-county minor pagan Slav country
>old leader, little prestige
>Think I´m gonna wipe the floor with him
>all of a sudden he raises 8000 men out of nowhere

Can somebody please explain this to me?

>>161200267
I won't. I'm not telling him to stop doing his mod you moron.
Can't you follow a fucking conversation?

>>161200093
All.
>>161200000

>>161200312
Inadequate information.

>>161200240
This thread is shit because of this: >>161195880.

>>161200312
Defensive war against foreigner modifier?

Maybe it's his allies plus tribal vassals?

>>161199686
>Makes easier for you to conququer the land and getting less infamy in the proess.

Actually it doesn't, almost all the German land you need are states in Prussia/Bavaria, and they continue being states in the NGF/SGF.

>Like this is a problem to any GP.
>Even if you lose the land you still have the cores.

I can't really do anything about that, of course GPs are powerful. And if France fought again to take the Rhineland, it makes sense that they'd try to reclaim it if they lost it.

>>161199817
>>161199959

No, the original version of France minimod had Pied-Noirs, however I removed them since I didn't have a system in place to create them right like I have now. I don't know about making it optional, since that requires i have to different versions of the mod.

>>161200075
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied-Noir

Basically, French settlers in Algeria.

>>161200562

Whoops, meant to reply to >>161200057
instead of >>161199817

>>161200562
>Actually it doesn't, almost all the German land you need are states in Prussia/Bavaria, and they continue being states in the NGF/SGF.
It does because it unifies split states and means you only need to beat one country, not pottential Austria and Bavaria and Prussia+other GP.

> of course GPs are powerful
Yeah and giving them free cores really helps with that.

Is there really any point in playing SP2 anymore?

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>What was supposed to be an easy win is literally dragging on because the ottomans are incapable of asking military access to the one-province mamluks.

>>161200827
The Ottoman fleet is probably bigger than Aragon's, they should be able to land their armies in your territory and then invade. But, of course, the AI is totally incompetent.

>>161200962
FUCKING FINALLY, YES, ME LADDY MATO HEARTIE!!! I THOUGHT THIS SHIT WAS DEAD

>>161200378
Guy is A Slavic Russian Duke of Chernigov, holding 2 counties. I am superior Greek Orthodox King declaring a holy war on him. In six months, he raises 4 200 man stacks out of nowhere,

>>161200439
He already raised his levies to fight elsewhere, and has no allies nor vassals.

>>161200827
>>161200987
What HAS EU4 done right? Trade seems pretty decent and I perfer it over EU3, but everything else just seems like a simplification meant to restrict the player and add tedium, especially estates.

>>161201092
>4 200 man stacks
Nigga is it eight thousand or eight hundred?
800 is fucking nothing.

>>161200562
>Basically, French settlers in Algeria.
What's the point of making them a separate culture? A different culture pop indicates a separate identity, but they are literally just first/second generation settlers from mainland France, which isn't even that far away. There's literally no gameplay purpose to having the culture either. Just because it was in the original mod doesn't mean you have to bring it back. It was good that you removed it.

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>>161200987
They could walk to Aragon. Tunis is my ally in the war.

What's the point of burning favors if my main fucking ally can't even reach my land?

The ottomans are just spazzing in the desert, losing men to attrition while something that should be an easy win is a fucking pain.

>>161201217
Diplomacy and how it handles ships. I'd pay for having EU4's ship missions, eg intercept or patrol in Vicky2. Much better than having to micro them. Granted it's not exactly a new feature, as it has existed at least since HOI3, but still.

>>161200962
2bh that could do with some more balkanization in France, specially if I want to blob there as Italy or Germany.

>>161200687
>It does because it unifies split states and means you only need to beat one country, not pottential Austria and Bavaria and Prussia+other GP.

I don't see how Prussia + GP + little german states is much different compared to NGF + SGF + GP ally

>Yeah and giving them free cores really helps with that.

The thing is, GPs get free cores all the time. USA can claim the entire northern half of Mexico. If Prussia/NGF forces Austria in when they unify Germany, they can get Germany cores on all of Austria, Bohemia, Slovenia, South Tirol, Istria, etc. for only 10 infamy. If Austria refuses, Germany can then claim all of that land for only 20 infamy.

>>161201230
True, the separate identity doesn't start popping up until the 1900s or so, but having Pied-Noirs allows for future events or decisions dealing with Settler-Native disputes and the possibility of a separate French Algeria tag for dismantlement, rebellions, etc.

>>161201693
>I don't see how Prussia + GP + little german states is much differen
It is because you only need to defeat one country.

>The thing is, GPs get free cores all the time.
No, they don't.

>USA can claim the entire northern half of Mexico.
Not only that's historical, the land is basically worthless since there's no one there. It's not LR40 germany or coal and iron belgium.

>If Prussia/NGF forces Austria in when they unify Germany, they can get Germany cores on all of Austria
National unification isn't the same thing as getting free cores in land there's almost no one or no one of your culture.

Two examples, especially these that are not comparable at all, isn't "GPs get free cores all the time" and it doesn't make your frankwank any more balanced or reasonable.

>they can get Germany cores on all of Austria, Bohemia, Slovenia, South Tirol, Istria, etc. for only 10 infamy.
I'm pretty sure you only get low infamy for Austria only. Regardless, that should be changed. Just because one thing is unbalanced doesn't mean yours make any more sense.

>>161201223
Eight thousand, sorry. I can only raise 3500 so it's a big problem

>>161201693
Wait, Germaniums can take Austriums? How?

>>161201217
To be fair, the AI is pretty good about getting Military Access now. The fact that you get access to nations that grant your enemy access helps a lot. The AI in EU3 was shit at naval invasions, too. It's just difficult to program I guess.

To your question though:
>trade is massively improved
>diplomacy and envoys in general
>national ideas are more interesting and a bit more balanced
>balance between different (non-Ottoman) nations is a bit better
>the fort zone-of-control system has its own problems, but it's much better than every war being "chase the enemy stack around until it dies and then carpet siege his whole country before he can build more guys"
>Estates are actually pretty handy when you get the hang of them, especially early on. Giving out land after you core new provinces is tedious though
>in general the interface is improved, there's more useful macros available to the player

The biggest problem is just how gamey the monarch point system is once you've used it a while. It's not the most terrible thing in principle (history is full of examples of empires prospering under strong leadership) but they built it into too many game systems. It should be a secondary mechanic that enables gives you a budget of actions that are powerful but limited in scope. Suppressing rebels, making armies march faster, reducing war exhaustion, etc. The grander aspects of ruling (technology, core provinces, national ideas, manpower, economic growth) should be influenced more by systems like Vic 2's POPs and resource economy.

Speaking about ships, why are the first attack steam powered ships in Vicky 2 called "commerce raiders"? Aren't those supposed to be civilian ships outfitted with a lot of concealed weapons meant to target civilian shipping, such as the Atlantis?

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>>161198203
HE WENT AHEAD AND TRIED TO ATTACK WESTERLAND!

AND NOW THE CVCK LOST THE RING!

MEGA

>>161201992
Wew, try again later, I guess.

Fucking slavs and their defensive buffs.

>>161202015
Mercs and the ottomans are pretty unbalanced though.
The ottomans are a fucking monster every game and rich countries can field 100K merc armies and fuck you up even after their manpower is gone.

>>161201973
How are provinces that have gold oil and iron worthless? And it doesn't matter if theres no one there its the fucking US, pops are gonna immigrate there.

>>161202201
That's true, mercenaries are very OP when mid game rolls around and money is no longer an issue.

Once you realize you can use mercenary infantry as cannon fodder (while drawing the more expensive cavalry and artillery from your own country) you basically never have to worry about manpower again.

There should be a pool of mercs available in each region that's shared between all countries. It grows larger and smaller based on population size, and other factors. If all the mercs are bought up you can offer more money to get someone else's mercs to fight for you, starting a bidding war.

>>161202398
>How are provinces that have gold oil and iron worthless?
If no one's living there they are worthless.
Oil is only late game is and is worthless.

> pops are gonna immigrate there.
The midwest is always fucking empty.

Besides, as I said before, it's historical.
>hey this historical thing happened and happens in game
>it totally means this completely different shit makes sense
That's how rob ended up his dumb shit. Next thing you are giving cores for spain in all of latin america because "hey, the US does something it did historically".

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>>161201693
Whats the ETA on the new version?

>>161202586
How is oil worthless? Isn't it used for super duper ships, tanks and planes?

>>161202484
Thing is, it should always grow smaller. By the 18th century mercenary armies were a thing of the past.
They were never big anyway, fielding 40K mercenaries should be too much. Every country should definitively not be able to field 40K mercenaries.

>>161202065

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Sumter


Commerce Raiders were civilian steam vessels, turned into light attack ships that were used to blockade ports, harass shipping and raid trade vessels. They weren't standardized military designs for war though.
I may be wrong here, but the ACW was pretty much the first example of steam ships being used in combat as militarized vessels which was done by armor plating them so they didn't explode.

>>161202171
But how did he do it? Do Slavs just get infinite defensive troops?

>>161202664
It's always in abundance. You can easily buy it from someone else.

>>161202776
I'm pretty sure that is a mechanic of non pagan tribal cunts that can just buy troops in exchange of prestige via decision when at war.

>>161201693
>e events or decisions dealing with Settler-Native disputes and the possibility of a separate French Algeria tag for dismantlement, rebellions, etc.
You can do all of that with French cultured pops.

>>161202702
>the ACW was pretty much the first example of steam ships being used in combat as militarized vessels which was done by armor plating them so they didn't explode.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(1839)

>>161202810
I wish there was a way of enacting proper embargoes.

>>161201973
Why does it matter whether or not the decisions/events are unbalanced? The mod is completely optional, don't download it if you don't like it. Or better yet, don't actually use the decisions while ingame - the mod is designed for a single player game as France anyways.

>>161203161
Because it's an argument of why it shouldn't be in HPM not an argument for him to change his mod. I'm completely fine with it being optional.

>>161203113
I doubt these games will ever make a point-to-point trade system for that to happen. The amount of CPU power it would need, making the AI smart enough to use it and making it balanced it would be a task no developer wants to tackle.
I think the only strategy game I know there's goods moving around like that is Distant Worlds but since goods don't move out of your empire, it's moot.

>>161202990
Not him, but it does up the possibility of settler/mainland French conflict, French African settlers frequently were at offs with Paris and advanced their own interests in opposition to the metropole, pied noirs in Algeria were some of napoleon iii's most vocal domestic opposition.

That said, the way he implements it isn't worth it, he makes heavy and circuitous use of the move pop command which has a tendency to bug out and mess with pops.

>>161203329
>The amount of CPU power it would need
Is that even a meaningful argument in this day and age where even the toastiest toaster has a dual core CPU that can be overclocked until it reaches the same power as a top of the line CPU?
The lack of effort on Paracuck's part is very true though.

>>161203025

That is an example in vicky 2 terms of a monitor, not an ironclad. It had exposed paddles that could be rammed etc. It was a militarized vessel, that used steam, and was protected so it didn't explode and could ignore most conventional light cannon fire.

Commerce raiders were just merchant vessels that were wood and militarized. Ironclads were the behemoths that nearly ended naval war against each other until stronger cannons were developed.

>>161203351
>That said, the way he implements it isn't worth it, he makes heavy and circuitous use of the move pop command which has a tendency to bug out and mess with pops.
I agree, the game is already starting to strain in late game with the amount of different culture/religion pops in the game from HPM, adding yet another culture wouldn't help.

>>161201973
>It is because you only need to defeat one country.
On the other hand, you can no longer peace out the minors one by one like you can with Prussia's sphere, because they've all been absorbed by the NGF.

>Not only that's historical, the land is basically worthless since there's no one there. It's not LR40 germany or coal and iron belgium.
How is Gold and Oil worthless? the massive gold rush modifiers, combined with america's natural immigration bonuses means that the land fills up very quickly, with Yankee settlers.

>National unification isn't the same thing as getting free cores in land there's almost no one or no one of your culture.

>Two examples, especially these that are not comparable at all, isn't "GPs get free cores all the time" and it doesn't make your frankwank any more balanced or reasonable.

I'll use a better example if it pleases you.
Russia can try to reclaim Poland if they lose it, gaining cores several states/provinces for only 8 infamy. They can absorb Finland with cores for 1 infamy, they can gain cores on the Baltic states, etc.

>I'm pretty sure you only get low infamy for Austria only. Regardless, that should be changed. Just because one thing is unbalanced doesn't mean yours make any more sense.

If Austria agress to join Germany then it's 40 infamy to inherit all of Austria's empire, 20 infamy to keep the Austrian core parts (with GER cores added) + all the non-german lands as puppets, and 10 infamy to annex just the Austrian core areas. If Austria refuses to join, Germany can get cores on all of the non-Hungarian Austria cores for 20 infamy

If you don't like the greater germany stuff, then I recommend you ask HPM about it next time he gets on, since Francemod and HPM are two separate entities.

>>161202937
But his prestige doesn't change. That's what bothers me.

>>161203547
The ship I posted was specifically built as a military ship - therefore not a commerce raider - and it definitely wasn't an ironclad. Which goes to the point of why they're named "commerce raiders" instead of something more generic such as "gunboat".

>>161203817

I literally explained what it was in Victoria 2s term to you. The Nemesis is a monitor in Victoria 2. Visible paddles to attack.

CSS Virginia is an ironclad. Completely shelled in iron. Cannonballs roll off.

CSS Sumter is a commerce raider. All wood, steam propulsion.

>>161203485
CPU power is fairly relevant for intense mechanics or large amounts of computing. Gehemisnacht is very taxing even on high-end computers and will most likely never reach the performance of vanilla CK2

>>161203485
Last 5 years of CPU development and we barely had any processing power improvement. Since there's more and more mobile devices in the market, manufacturers are focusing on miniaturization and power saving. Which means shit to us.

Overclocking only take you so far before it burns a hole in your MB or makes the system unstable and multi threading isn't the magic shit most people think it is. We needed better CPUs, but we aren't getting it.

>>161204009
>CPU power is fairly relevant for intense mechanics or large amounts of computing
In case of Paracucks games the only thing that matters is per core performance given that they still use only one fucking core. And as I already said in this day and age the shittiest CPUs can be OC'd to levels that make so that they have very close performance to top of the line stuff.

I keep trying to play as USA in HPM but every time I do I get so many reactionary rebels in the 50's I can't handle them, and then once they take power, the jacobins start revolting. Causing a revolt cycle that ends in Free States of America, New England, Confederacy balkanized America and I'm left with almost no army to take them back. How to avoid this?

>>161204197
Try encouraging soldiers, building good stacks and assign leaders that have reliability bonus so that your troops won't chimpout?

>>161204197
Wait how do you get reactionarys in the usa i try to get them but they never rise up

Wasn't the new HPM update supposed to come out yesterday?

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>>161204189
>In case of Paracucks games the only thing that matters is per core performance given that they still use only one fucking core.

>>161204482
He said maybe end of the week if he wasn't too busy with chinese lessons.
Could technically come out today.

>>161204524
Holy fuck are you serious?? I'm honestly fucking baffled, how is that even possible. Why am I not flying through a year pro minute like I used to?

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ah yes

>>161204374
Is that what reliability does? Holy shit, 5000 hours and I'm still figuring out obtuse mechanics

>>161204613

Is he teaching those chinese girls what it means to be an Eroberon?

>>161204159
I'm honestly not bothered not even a little by CPU hitting performance plateau or whatever. Having powerful CPUs seems to lead to awful practices such as CPU bottlenecks - because apparently supporting multicore requires too much effort. But even that isn't a valid argument - see STALKER, a bunch of autistic modders got their hands on the source code and managed to make it run on 4 cores. And the FPS went from 40 to something like 200.

>>161204524
Try M&T and you'll see that one CPU goes at max while the rest are barely even used. Even better, try underclocking after that.

>>161203351
>>161203560

Yeah that way I added new pops is pretty finicky, but the problem lies more with the lack of versatility of the assimilate = yes command. The Pied-Noirs and Mainlander conflict is something I want to deal with, since part of my problem with Vic2 is the lack of late game flavor. But either way I'll run a few extra test games when I'm done with the settler colonies, and if the Pied-Noirs act up/bug out then I'll remove them.

>>161202587

So far for a to-do list of revamping settler colonies I have Patagonia and French Algeria. Aside from that, I can't think of too many others. Australia is pretty empty, but also fucking huge and has a noticeable English population. Louisiana would be nice for hurting the USA, but it's pretty unrealistic, even if you can beat the USA as France in war. The rest of Canada is another (more likely) option, since there are few people in Rupert's land/British Columbia at the start. Acadia (the tag/culture from 7years mod) is another possibility for adding, but I'd have to see if it hurts performance too much.

>>161204753
It's not like it's all written in the wiki or anything.

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>>161204618
It uses both cores and 4 threads.

>>161204805
>Try M&T and you'll see that one CPU goes at max while the rest are barely even used
Welcome to multi-core processing. It isn't the magical solution you think it is
It's still multicore.

>I'm honestly not bothered not even a little by CPU hitting performance plateau or whatever.
Well it's one of the things that make more complex simulation systems impossible or non viable.

>>161204963
>Welcome to multi-core processing
Welcome to half assed multi core processing you mean. A piece of shit such as PCSX2 uses all of their cores to their fullest potential, I don't understand how a "serious" developer like Paradox can't do the same.

>Well it's one of the things that make more complex simulation systems impossible or non viable.
For the record DCS still uses one core and up until not too long ago it didn't use the GPU at all.

>>161204745
I dont know why, but I just burst out laughing at that post, the "ah yes" is what got me, because it reminded me of this video, at 0:44 https://youtube.com/watch?v=qrslDdZskno

"Aah, yes, I see you know your colonial administration well. Good work, sir."

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>>161205179
>Welcome to half assed multi core processing you mean.
And here we go, the video game industry is full of armchair coders who know shit all about coding.
EU4 is the green in the graph. It's using more my 2nd core than the first one.
If you knew shit about this you'd know that the reason M&T runs like shit is because it the puts too much load in one of the main functions. CPUs don't work like brains, making different parts interface together is hard or nigh impossible in some cases, so you can't separate everything and hope it will work ok. That's where the " CPU hitting performance plateau" shit comes in play. If CPUs had better performance, then this wouldn't be a problem.

>A piece of shit such as PCSX2 uses all of their cores to their fullest potential,
The second most common myth is that consoles use their shit better. It's somewhat true since you only have one configuration so developers don't need to worry about different OSes or hardware. Fact is, PS2 doesn't have games that are CPU intensive as these.

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>play some CK2
>play as Duke Guilhem the 8th of Aquitaine
>get married, use the family focus so he falls in love with his wife
>wife develops the lustful trait
>aw shit
>later on she gets preggo
>find out that she was banging she was banging my 70 year old steward and count
>reveal her to be the whore she is, imprison the both of them in my dungeon
>daughter gets married to the King Philippe
>she develops the lustful trait
>my Duke finds his daughter fucking my 60 year old bishop
>other daughter just developed the lustful trait while married to some duke
>again, caught her fucking some old dude (at least he wasn't part of my council)

I didn't want my game to turn into a NTR doujin, holy shit.

>>161197000
Louisiana (entire colony not just the state) and Acadia?

>>161206102
You're French, what did you think was going to happen?

>>161206102
Now you should understand why there's a pre-game option to disable AI use of the Seduction focus.

Best Victoria 2 National orders? Westernizing as Siam. Im thinking order, autocracy, or productivity.

>>161206447
Depends on what you want. Autocracy is good for keeping peace in multi-ethnic empires, but people like to abuse militancy to pass reforms and it fucks with that option a bit.

Productivity is a good completely neutral NV while order helps a bit in wars.

How in the fuck are you supposed to use the Skanderbeg trick effectively?
I've tried it about 20 times and each time I'll beat the turks moderately well, second battle is decent, third is narrow as fuck, fourth is gg, restart the run.
Either that or they ignore me and just siege down Constantinople, even when i start to siege their castles.

>>161206696
Spend more military points than your opponent.

>>161206696
press ~, than type
mil
dip
adm

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>>161206119
Acadia as a tag/culture is more of an option, since Acadia itself is already a part of the land France gains if it reclaims Quebec from the British. I'd only add it to give you some options for dominions, rather than just releasing one giant Quebec all the time.

Louisiana (the whole colony west of the Mississippi) is a much more unhistorical option I'm thinking about, though it does have the Cajuns (not represented in game) there and gives a challenging option (fighting America for it Mexican-American war style), and it severely limits America, which makes North America much more interesting. Another possible reason is to give Bourbon France some unique options, considering Napoleonic France can rape half of Europe

Whether or not Acadia/Acadians are added is going to be purely based of performance, but the unhistorical-but-gameplay-possible options for player (like Lousiana or Australia) I'll end up leaving for a Poll, since I know some of you like the potential idea and some of you hate them.

>>161206783
Solid advice man, It's nice to know you can still get some people willing to help on this site :)

>>161206893
hue

>>161206696
uninstall the game

>>161206951
>Whether or not Acadia/Acadians are added is going to be purely based of performance, but the unhistorical-but-gameplay-possible options for player (like Lousiana or Australia) I'll end up leaving for a Poll, since I know some of you like the potential idea and some of you hate them.
The way I see it is: as long as its something that isn't required to be done ingame (you can just click "no" on an event or ignore a decision), there is no harm in adding it.

>>161207059
Already tried that man, for some reason I couldn't get the game to even run after doing it though.

>>161207182
have you tried deleting system32?

>>161207150
I don't know If I'll do that for the Acadians since they have to exist in the files no matter what and I don't want to have to maintain two separate mod versions, but Louisiana/Australia would definitely be event options.

I'll still have a poll though (will create them in a little bit), since there's no reason to add optional content if no one wants said optional content

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>decide im going to become tsar of all russias in ck2
>load up the game
>Hand craft a "romanov" dynasty with a fairly authentic coat of arms
>give my ruler traits researched at great lengths
>study the romanovs to see how they ruled and how they would react to certain situations
>finally ready after hours of preparation for this glorious dynasty simulator
>get a fucking cat event
>uninstall the game and load up vicky

>>161207467
>gets a cat event
>loads up drunk polar bear simulator instead
what did he mean by this?

>>161206951

Louisana has a huge french population not so much because of it being a colonial holding for them, but because of slave masters fleeing the Haitian revolution which the U.S allowed for them to come to the states and bring their slaves. The flow of french colonials from Haiti would turn New Orleans into one of the largest slave markets for the internal slave trade in the U.S. Slaves would flow from Tobacco farms in Virginia to New Orleans where they would then be sold to cotton plantation owners who needed more slaves, or to people who sought to erect a new plantation on reclaimed land and needed to buy a workforce. Here is a crazy idea: France supports confederacy in the ACW, but does it on a bargain that Louisiana is released as a satellite for France?

I'm not sure how Napoop da turd would react to slavery however.

@161207687
Not anymore, steamcordplaza, mummy said i'm not supposed to respond to bullies!

@161207854
we twitter now?

@161207947
I hope so, the red hurts my eyes.

>>161204745
>>161205245
And now I'm losing my shit

How do I prevent Italy from forming?
I've got Two Sicilies and Lombardia puppeted, Modena, parma, and tuscany sphered and I own venice.
SP finally got to GP status and its like 1865. Should I just fuck them up or will nationalists unite italy regardless of what I do?

>>161208238
You can't in HPM, at all. The redshirts will probably do it but even if they don't there's a mandatory Pope led unification around 1890.

>>161208348
what about parts I puppeted or annexed?

>>161208238
Yeah just go medieval on their asses.

give me acceptable balkan borders for the South German Federation's puppets

>>161208593
Those too will be unified.
There is one upside though, I believe if thd Papl states is sphered or puppeted then so too will the unified Italy be, so it can be worthwhile as France, Austria or anyone else to directly annex the most populous parts prior to the unification for a permanent secondary power puppet Italy.

>>161208761
All Hungary.
No but seriously, Banat, Transylvania, Croatia, Hungary and then some god awful abomination in the Polish territories.

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>>161207716
Honestly France supporting the confederacy due to a land border is an interesting idea, but I think they'd have to have Louisiana beforehand. If they do, it could easily be a "accept Louisiana is ours and in return we'll help you" sorta deal.

If Louisiana is to be an option, it'd be for the Bourbons only, probably claiming that the Louisiana purchase was illegal since Napoleon was not the true ruler of France or some justification thats shaky and false. And considering all the Napoleonic France options, Bourbon France needs some special stuff. It'd probably be like the Mexican-American war (big treaty ends it, rather than let it be a state-by-state ordeal).

Poll here:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11743001
http://www.strawpoll.me/11743001
http://www.strawpoll.me/11743001

>>161209045
>And considering all the Napoleonic France options, Bourbon France needs some special stuff.
Do you have anything for them to take/puppet southern Italy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bourbon#Later_Bourbon_monarchs_outside_France

Also, what's the justification behind Australia?

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>>161208831

I don't think Italy will remain a secondary power, and annexing the Italian sections is kinda worthless since they aren't your and never will be your accepted pops. Austria would be better spending its infamy taking over poo-land since its an accepted pop in the Danubian federation.

>>161209045
I honestly have no clue about the history of France, that would be some other experts field of expertise. But the idea of a vocal french minority in the confederacy banding together and appealing to France for support and then a brokered deal for special rights for the french in the confederacy could make sense maybe to me. In order to get around the issues of pops not converting to french culture, could Louisiana turn into a sub-state of the confederacy and have the cores of the U.S and CSA removed so it could assimilate Dixies into French?

or a nullification of the Louisiana purchase etc like you suggested.

>>161209520
>takes shit tonne of france and greece
>hasn't even got libya
>has got western sahara
lad..

Also, what mapmod?

>>161209520
>Egyptian Palestine
>Italy blabbing into France
>Turkish Socialist Republic
>Ireland exists
>Belgium exists
>Italy blobbing into Greece
>no anchluss
>czech's aren't included in Germany
>ruthenia isn't a part of Hungary
>Austria has non connecting provinces in Eastern Europe
>Egypt exists after the Scramble
>no Italian Libya
3/10
I give you a benefit of the doubt because of your nice balkans, aside from the Italy blobbing and having a nice großrommaniums

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>>161207467
That's literally what I did as well. But I autistically RP'ed as East Germans . Rate.

>>161210003
>Turkish Socialist Republic
>Not enjoying Islamic Gommunism

>>161209736
RDS mapping project my man

Why is liquor so good?

>>161209305
This is a great idea, since I had actually forgotten about the extra Bourbons. It could be a event chain similarly to the Catalonia chain, letting France go to war with Italy in an effort to break it's power and release satelites, preventing a southern rival.

As for Australia I don't have a specific reason, but I keep seeing people ask HPM for a better way to handle Australia (after all, only 30,000 non-natives live there in 1836). So it would offer another option to go for, and serves as a nice base or ally in the Pacific/Southern Asia.

>>161209630
That would be interesting, but by the time the US gets to the civil war, it owns all of the lower 48, which means a French Louisiana would be oddly placed, not to mention it would bisect America. If i had to guess, the event chain would be limited to pre Guadalupe-Hidalgo.

In the future I could easily make a French/British/Mexican dismantlement of western America, considering right now you can't really dismantle the USA.

People have cited performance problems so I might avoid making the French Louisianans a separate culture, and instead just make it Acadians. That's in the future though, for now I just want to know if Louisiana should be added at all.

Either way thanks for the suggestions guys, I appreciate the help.

>>161210065
I absolutely hate the names of communist countries in Victoria 2..... especially Turkey

>>161210165
cheap inputs
other countries don't make much of it
cheap to build the factory
high demand right from the start of the game

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>>161210165
you had to ruin it didnt you

>>161209045
When do you think it will be ready?

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so I finally westernized. now what?

>>161210315
having a thread with no liquor is like having a thread with no warning

>>161210440
>allowing the british to hold any of your rightful clay
what do you think?

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hey guys am I doing it right?

>>161210354
It depends, but right now it looks promising. I've fixed all the reported bugs (localization errors,the effects_title decision which was an unclosed bracket, the non-colonial quebec, etc.), and I've added half of the Wallonia rebels chain, most of the events/decisions based around the 3 France tags, and a few late-game coup events (alt-history ones in 1899-1920). Right now all I have to do is re-do the new dominions, finish the Walloon chain, make the Italian puppets chain, fiddle with the performance of new cultures and finally test the mod a few times.

So in a week or two, I'll post in the thread if I run into any difficulties/If anything changes.

>>161210656
>small arms
lad...

>>161210729
>not building a least one of every military-related factory so your troops have supplies when shit hits the fan
If it's early enough in the game to be building liquor factories en masse it's probably not worth it, though.

>>161210440

Take over Malayasia, Burma, and Indonesia?
What are you retarded?

>>161210903
>he doesn't exclusively use Molotov cocktail-armed infantry
lad...

>>161210903

i actually had some luck with Spain building an ammunition factory, though it was quickly limited by the amount of sulfur in my common market.

is frigate spam legit?

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>>161210164
Work with HPM?

>>161210198
For an extra bit of Bourbon flavour, France and Spain actually had the same claimant from 1883 to 1936.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan,_Count_of_Montizón
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos,_Duke_of_Madrid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime,_Duke_of_Madrid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infante_Alfonso_Carlos,_Duke_of_San_Jaime

So if France is legitimatist and Spain is Carlist then in 1883, when Henri, Count of Chambord dies then they'll both be under the same ruled.

But it's important to note, this is only for legitimist France, NOT the Orleanist france that starts the game, the Orleanists actually fought against the Carlists because they wanted muh liberalism, so in the event there's a carlist Spain and a legitimist France then they were ruled by the same lad from 1883, Juan/Jean III.

I tried to tell HPM about this but he said I was autistic and should go play CK2.

>>161211559
You're autistic and should go play CK2.

>playing a horde is easy man! you can beat the ming even when they outnumber you 4 to 1 :)
>win a battle losing 8000 to their 9000 in a 0/19/1 vs 24/4/0 battle on grassland
>savescum and it keeps happening
>they have 4 times as much manpower as me

ok.

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On a scale of 1 to 10 how lucky am I right now?

>>161211680
talex

>>161211782
That depends, check how many troops they got.

>>161211782
7

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>>161211559
You're autistic and should go play CK2.

Nah just kidding, but alot of Legitimist support died out after Henri, Count of Chambord died in 1883. It also presents a weird problem in how to handle a King ruling both countries, possibly a puppet Spain under France.

This is something I want to add, but this wouldn't be in this update, but rather it would be in the future, when I fully flesh out the Legitimist-Orleanist split

>smelling French fucks declare war
>spend 15 minutes deciding which territories to take to fuel my factories

This...this is the power of capitalism.

>>161211913
they had 97 at the end of the war, 110 now.

Where's white (and based) R&I?

>>161212169
Here >>161192956

>>161211941
Henri actually was offered the crown once Nappy 3 fucked up the Franco-Prussian war but he redused it becausd he couldn't have the white flag with yellow fleur-de-lis on.

>In the early 1870s, as the Second Empire collapsed following its defeat in the Franco-Prussian War at the battle of Sedan on 1 September 1870, the royalists became a majority in the National Assembly. The Orléanists agreed to support the aging comte de Chambord's claim to the throne, with the expectation that at his childless death he would be succeeded by their own claimant, Philippe d'Orléans, comte de Paris. Henri was then pretender for both Legitimists and Orléanists, and the restoration of monarchy in France seemed a close possibility. However, Henri insisted that he would accept the crown only on condition that France abandon its tricolour flag and return to the use of the white fleur de lys flag. He rejected a compromise, whereby the fleur-de-lys would be the new king's personal standard, and the tricolour would remain the national flag.

The absolute madman.

>>161211559

Spanish/french dynasty dynamic could use quite a bit of love. Spain in general needs more love.

>>161212253
Kek, based as fuck

Why is electric gear so good?

>>161211941
Why should I play Your mod?

>>161212419

Honestly hes a retard.
Should have accepted it, and then started taking down the tricolours to replace with his "personal standard" and when asked why tell them "l'état, c'est moi"

make the shitposting come full circle..
>>161212584
Because its needed by all kinds of goods that pops demand and will buy.

>>161212253
Yeah, HPM actually has an event about that once the 2nd Empire falls, allowing you to choose your next government type.

And while the fleur-de-lis is pretty great (I used it as the flag of Bourbon France, ignoring the July Monarchy's tricolor use for now), he shouldn't have lost a chance at reclaiming the crown of France over it.

How can I make Geheimnisnacht not run like garbage and also nerf Vlad and his stupid ultra-stack?

>>161212730
Take the dick.

>>161212608
It adds things about France

Also, does anyone know when AFPG gets back? I want to ask him to make dominion monarchy flags that make sense for all 3 potential france tags

>>161212806
December i think

>>161212652
Can you post the event for the second empire falling? I've been curious as to it's contents for some time.

>>161212160
It's good then. Last time the Taiping won in my games they had +2k troops somehow.

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Well so much for being the more westernized china. I think Ill use this chance to take a state from them.

>>161212730
>nerf Vlad and his stupid ultra-stack?
Why? Do you hate canon?

>>161212652
After you are finished with the France minimod, are you gonna make any other nation-specific minimods? Spain, and Germany are all good candidates. For the former, you could add some more flavor for Carlists, maybe add the possibility of an Iberian Union with complementary events and decisions. As for the latter, it'd primarily be flavor for North vs. South German-formed Germaniums, as well as just general renaming and expansion events/decisions.

>>161212958
>horde of light infantry assaults 5 castles in the ass-end of nowhere
>capital remains untouched, only battles are minor skirmishes
>alright emperor of Middenland, you're my bitch now thanks to 100% warscore :^)

>>161213074
got a problem with that kid?

What does unit experience do in Vic 2? I can't find it anywhere in the wiki.

>>161213151
Yeah, when the canon wars saw mass assaults on the electors' capitals but in game the capitals don't even see the undead horde.

>>161213214
and what are you going to do about it huh?

>>161213202
reduces the amount of liquor units have to consume

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>>161212919
Here you go

>>161213073
Perhaps, but there is still a ton of work to be done for France, so i I did it'd be no time soon. On the plus side though, In a later update I'll add some Carlist flavor involving the Legitmists, like >>161211559 suggested.

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>>161212942
and so I did.

>Playing CK2
>possessed child kills of my inheritor. Can't do shit to kill him off
>possessed child takes up throne
>Negative Vassal opinion shitfest
>Possessed child dies off. Still negative opinion due to predecessor.
>Black Plague comes in at the same time. Leaves a fucking mess in my kingdom.
>Vassals plotting to kill me and manages to do it since opinions of me are fucking negative. Can't do anything about it

So the game decides to fucking throw me out because of a simple random number despite me actually doing good.

>>161213445
Why are there no Boulanger events?

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>>161213202

>>161213445
What do they do? Republic, absolute monarchy, constitutional monarchy?

>>161213523
that is leader experience only dummkopf.
>>161213202
From what I can dig up, unit experience acts as a defense against both organization and strength damage.


strength damage inflicted = Unit Strength / 3000 * {Base Kills From Roll * (1 + attack / 10) / ([1 + Enemy's Tactics] / 100) / ([1 + Enemy's Experience] / 100)}.

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>>161213202
>>161213523
thats only for leaders
>>161213715

for regiments look at my graph example:
lets say your German troops are fighting some infantry in 1905, with all techs unlocked. this is how many casualties one German brigade of 3000 men would receive per day fighting against one Infantry brigade of 3000 men. this graph shows how casualties vary with dice rolls and experience levels. As you can see, experience has a big effect on the number of casualties received. a unit with 100% experience will receive half the casualties of a unit with 0% experience, no matter how high the enemy dice roll.

desu i copied this all from reddit

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KING ROSAS SOON

But in this universe rosas is the constitutionalist good guy and urquiza is just a reactionary shitter getting in the way of a greater future for argentina

Which one should I pick here though? Is the only effective difference the color?

>>161213790
uhhh... unite?

>>161213756
>>161213715

Why am I entertained by the mathmatic equation of how discipline affects unit damage taken when I should be writing a paper on italian fascism. RIP

>>161213715
>>161213756
So experience is like a per-unit boost to both military tactics AND discipline. Makes sense and it seems very powerful. I might prioritize Psychology tech more in the future then.

Also, the leader page says that the leader experience trait give a bonus to unit experience gain, so putting leaders with that trait in charge of colonial armies to train up elite troops for continental wars later on might be a good strategy.

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>>161213519
Funny you should mention that, I just finished 2 coup events.

I need to read up on Boulanger before I go out and make an event or two for him though.

>>161214053
the tech also gives reinforcement which is really good for long drawn out wars

>>161213983
why do you have to write that

>>161214053
Leader experience is hard to get. You have to be very conscientious to get a high prestige leader. Plus, they die a lot in combat.
>>161214153
Fascism in Europe class. I am a history major, graduating next year to be a school teacher. Get to meme and shitpost IRL about history.

>>161214274
>anon working with kids all day
surely this is against the law?

>>161213790
The only two differences are the color and the flags

>download geheimnisnacht
>suffer the same blank events other anons did
it has to be my fault

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>>161214931
>first post stolen by r&i again
fuckin r&i

New Thread:

.... after careful revision I have figured out something

FOUR INFANTRY FOUR ARTILLERY IS SHIT UNTIL LATE GAME

>>161215256
what game?

>>161215256
i never make cavalry, only cannons and men for the meatgrinder
i used these men and cannons to make grossgermaniums you see

>>161215256
care to explain

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what did he mean by this?
they warned me not too long ago too.

>>161215337
Not Vic 2 I'm sure.

I just started playing recently and in the few wars I've fought as Sweden/Scandinavia my 4inf/4art/1cav/1eng memestacks have decimated everything they've fought against. Some memes exist for a reason.

>>161215586
it means you need to uninstall

>>161215606
which Cavalry did you use?