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Get off it dude Edition

Ain't got no respect for these guys: >>161118916
>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>>161166737
First for Rock and Roll.
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>>161166668
t
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So I just killed a guy and got 500,000 souls. I thought there was a maximum amount? I never really paid attention but I'm pretty sure I've never got more than 1-2 thousand souls from an invasion (which was retarded by FROM since there's almost no incentive to invade anyway).
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>>161166737

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18
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Since last thread died just after posting,
how shall I name my first character?
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>>161166874
High speed posting, like you actually done something.
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>>161166954
Guts
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>>161166954
You should name him "Attention Whore".
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>Greatswords buffed, best class for poise and trading
>Curved swords still DPS machines with retarded swing speed and damage
>Straight swords still require too little stamina to swing, but besides that are prone to being parried and don't have insane damage output

So can I use straight swords now and not be labeled a scrub?
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>>161166954
Female (Male)
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Is the dark sword still broken? Does magic still suck?
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>You're a wicked one, aren't you?
>Very well. If this is your wish. I will unravel the thing the best I can. Besides. It will be nice to play master for once.
>Fiendish little lad, you...
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>>161167178
SSs now beat CS in trades
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Anyone want to watch DaS3 no hit runs with me?
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>>161167178
Pro tip: you'll be called a scrub for using the harpe, so you might as well use weapons you like
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this is MY sword
you can't have it
it's MINE
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>>161167258
Dark Sword was never that strong. Useless r2s and WA. Lothric Knight Sword was always better, especially with black knight shield. But they did nerf DA's damage.
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>>161167128
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>>161167275
>Besides. It will be nice to play master for once.

Muh
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What SL is the best for arena fights?
I can't get anything other than duels at SL120 and I'm tired of them.
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Is the DaS3 DLC worth it? I'm working out if it's worth me buying it individually or the Season Pass.

I haven't finished the base game yet.
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>>161166954
but hole punisher
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>hollows with tree dildos
>hit harder through plate armor than a knight using a sword
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>>161167424
>they used to look like the "boy with sword" statues
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>>161167554
>t. Uncreative Nigger
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>>161167548
Lks is made for quality builds right?
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>>161167307
i do
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>>161167548

>Dark Sword was never that strong

Alright, that's enough /dsg/ for today. I'm out, see you tomorrow.
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Based purely on the item descriptions of their equipment, tell the lore behind your character.
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Can I really use greatswords now?

They're really viable now?
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>>161168142
It was the scrub SS. Everyone who actually knew how to abuse SS was running Gotthard's. If you died to Dark sword, you likely weren't against a good player and fucked up or played like shit
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>>161167772
>blunt force is better than cutting edge against plate
owo
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>>161168152
The first jailer , an inhabitant of the Profaned Capital who managed to escape its collapse and was recruited by Pontiff Sulyvahn to oversee the path leading to Boreal Valley . Perhaps the screams emanating from the Ashen ones helps him forget his old home.
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>>161168179
Greatswords always were viable. They are meta now.
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>>161168071

Open this stream:

https://www.
twitch.
tv/faraazkhan

This guy did the first DaS3 no hit run a few months ago. I think he's now trying to do one with all bosses.
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>>161168287
Those tree dildos can hardly have enough force the way they're wielded. If they were used from horseback like a lance, maybe then.
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How does this look for a quality build
40
10
40
24
40
30
9
10
7
Starting as a knight, gonna use ss's and heavy armor
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Is there any point into going into NG+++ ?
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>>161168796
Not unless you're finding ng++ too easy or maybe you missed out on Pale Shade set or something. There aren't any changes to the game other than enemy damage/hp.
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pcfc?
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>>161168152
My character killed Sirris of the Sunless Realms for her armor, and also because Sirris is a fucking awful white phantom and the worst girl in the entire series. That's it.
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>>161169067
K-kissu
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>>161167554
AGS went full inspector gagdet in this one
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>>161169331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyRcGkDnJo
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got summoned for dragonslayer armour 4 times and each time I can't pass the fog, what do? it's been working fine with other bosses.

also there was an invader called "Nigger Host of Embers" that killed me, is that some ring effect or another bug? Maybe his name had that full text in it, but it did have the proper line break at least.
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>>161168749

>knight
>straight sword
>quality build

you're hitting all the checkmarks
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>>161169783

Yes, the Fog Gate bug has been there forever. It also happens with Dancer very often. If you can make the host wait a few minutes before entering the fog it should happen less. That invader was legit, there's a ring that does that.
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>>161168749
40 might be just a point higher than needed, people typically stop at 39 then slap on life and favor rings

40 end is arguably more than needed

24 vit is unnecessary unless you need poise

40/30 is a worse idea than 30/40; when you twohand, your the effect of your str stat on your weapon is raised to a level 50% higher than your current one (rounding down and never passing 99 str), so by going to 30/40 instead of 40/30 you get 45/40 instead of 60/30, which keeps more of your stats under the softcap of 40

10 faith is okay, and you can equip priestess to cast something requiring 15 if needed (for example, casting replenishment at the start of a match then switching the priestess ring off for sun princess ring)

you don't need heavy armor with a straightsword since straightswords don't have hyperarmor on anything other than weaponarts, and the good weaponarts like the stance thrust don't really require you to level vit to obtain enough poise to make use of the hyperarmor. Cut vit and make your build 40/40
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>>161169935
>40 might be just a point higher than needed, people typically stop at 39 then slap on life and favor rings

Bullshit. Some people stop at 39 becouse it leaves your hp at 1200 and it looks cool. But there's no cap until 50. Personally l feel 39 is too low. 44 vit is perfect for me
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>having trouble with ruin sentinels
>kill enemies on my way to the boss room every time
>they actually de-spawn after a while

??? why?
they implemented all this difficult shit (like the whole hollowing and losing your max health system), but they decided to be all cushiony and get rid of enemies if you kill them a lot?
what did they mean by this? first playthrough by the way
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>>161169935
>40 end is arguably more than needed
it's only needed for ultra weapons and valorheart
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Thread 2 fast 5 me

Ok guy that just got DaS 3 on the black friday sale here. Why does the game crash every half hour or so? I turned lighting down to low like one place recommended but that didn't fix it. Also damn, is the long sword much better than the halberd or is it just me? I expecte the halberd to be great like in DaS 1, but nope. Maybe I'm just not used to the system yet though.
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>>161170269
company of champions makes enemies never stop spawning, but it also increases their hp and damage as well as disabling summons
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>>161168043
Cleric builds actually, it has an S scaling in faith :^)
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>>161168749
>40 endurance
disgusting

36 is all you need, and only for heavy weapons like ulltragreatswords and halberds. Other weapons such as straight swords or greatswords don't even need you to level up any point in endurance
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>>161168356
>GUARD THE BELL???
>AHOOOOWAHOOOHAHHAHA
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>>161170232
>Bullshit.
wow you're one cool dude

>vit
you mean vig?

>leaves your HP at 1200
no, it's because it leaves your hp at 1801 while embered with both rings which is three flasks plus one point. It's convenient for embered fightclubs because even if tears procs you'll never need more than three flasks to start a fight at max hp. On top of that, the 39th level of vigor gives as much hp as the prior, whereas the next one gives two points less, so it actually is before a drop.
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>>161170269
>what did they mean by this?
It was to prevent people that absolutely sucked from rapidly ending up in the last couple of soul memory slots from running the same areas 20+ times. Ruin sentinels are kind of bullshit though.
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>>161170269
At this point, do you even care if they are dead or alive?
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>>161170340
>>161170474
I use 37 since it gives 4 points of end with favor as opposed to the typical 3, while 38 only gives 2 for some weird rounding reason
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How's the mill wood battle axe in PvP? Is it better 1h or 2h?
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wtf, why is every gank squad russian all of a sudden
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>>161170539
>wow you're one cool dude
retard

>you mean vig?
yes

>no, it's because it leaves your hp at 1801..
45 vig leaves you at 1908 hp. 6 points for 100hp is probably your best bet
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>>161160935

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qgqOOGBMLk
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>>161170737
>all of a sudden
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>>161170804
Maybe it's always been like this. I've just recently began checking profiles.
I would instantly sign any petition that made video games illegal in Russia.
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>>161170769
>6 points for 100h
...is a complete waste. Even on a warrior I could just use 5 points for 10 faith and an attunement slot to use replenishment, and if I get it to play out for half the duration, that's 150 health. 100 hp while already at around 1400 isn't going to change the amount of swings required for larger weapons to kill you anyway, so it's completely fucking pointless unless you're trying to recover hp after taking damage. If anything it just makes it harder to proc rtsr. The anon in question hadn't even hit 40/40 yet, he doesn't need more vig. I have no idea why the fact that the vast majority of people playing this game don't misplace as many levels as you is so triggering, but I'd advise you stop stop advising new players until you can sort your issues out.
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>>161170989
Fair enough - Russian gankers are fairly common though, at least in my experience. What SL are you at? And as far as cancerous players go, I'd take the Russian gank over the hell that is trying to play during chink hours.
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I'm in the mood of doing some comfy coop, if you need help with anything add Priestess Yera on steam or reply here.
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MEMBER ARTORIAS?
YEAH I MEMBER! MEMBER GWYNDOLIN?
OOH HE WAS GREAT, MEMBER?
I MEMBER!
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>>161171168
Invadan at SL50. Haven't experienced Chink hours but that does indeed sound awful.
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>>161171154
>stop stop
oww, I actually short circuited from having to respond to an obvious blackfriday poster
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why are spears so goddamn... short? feels like my millwood axe has the exact same reach
though i would be able to punish a bit better with spears but it doesn't seem like it
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>>161168152
Former knight of Mirrah turned charming thief, who ultimately goes hollow and serves Londor as a cold blooded assassin.
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>have a lot of nostalgia for DS1
>want to do a DS1 knight build with the nameless knight armor, silver eagle kite shield and broadsword
>feel like that's boring and quit
>go back to being my DS3 self with the nerfed lucerne

my biggest problem is that i don't know whether to make it an sl130 duelfag or a low sl invader
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>>161171564
t. follower spear user
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I feel fucking cucked by this game. Not a single hatemail (PC).
What's the best way to get it? Healing in arena?
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>>161168152
Black knight that slowly hollowed and turned to the Sable Church, ending up becoming the new lord of hollows. Also worships chaos and uses pyromancies now as a last big fuck you to his Chaos-fighting roots.

Original pls donut steal
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>>161171217
You already have someone famalan ?
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>>161170737
To make you mad, cyкa.
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>>161171779
Hack
Brag when they can't get you b&
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>>161171803
I really hope we don't actually have russians in this thread.
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>>161171792
No I'm all alone, you want to do something?

Name place and pass and I'll come.
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>>161171936
sup dudes. can i join?
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>>161171909
we do have a couple, they come out of the woodworks if you point out how terrible their internet speed is
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>>161171909
>he hasn't fought quality
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>>161171909
Well sorry to disappoint fagboy but i've been here for almost 4 years now and i'm sure as hell not going anywhere.
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>>161171936
>>161172010

Sure we havnt started anything yet, not sure where we are going though.
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>>161171909
you'd sure have fun at fcs, there's plenty of them
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>>161171909

Aren't like half of the PCFC fuccbois incredibly laggy Russians/Eastern Europeans?
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>>161172160
You're the worst race on earth aside from sandniggers. I wish Hitler had succeeded.
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I cant figure out what class to chose for a low level build. On one hand, i could use the knight and hunter ring on a warrior and save a good amount of points, but on the other, the knight has 10att which is more usefull than the warriors luck. Not sure if my str is gonna be 18 or 20, dex will be 14, faith might go up to 15
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>>161172254
Almost everyone is a burg/west EU
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>>161171779
Set your steam account to free comments.
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>>161170358
Graphics drivers up to date? Some other person mentioned updating the bios but thats probably not the problem.
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>>161172291
Don't you worry anon, we might accidentally annex you next.
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>>161172164
>>161172010
>>161171936
>>161171792

I'll jump on my alt char and put down a sign at the first bonfire in the DLC with pass "dsg"

this is on PC.
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DLC invasions drying up or what? What's the best SL and weapon level to hit max activity there?
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>>161172059
>tfw can't wear deep, saint's, darkmoon, dusk crown and priestess all at once for BW, replenishment, and ToD for 7 att and 10 faith

I never use saints/deep because the prompts you get when you try swapping off of attunement rings annoy the shit out of me. I don't mind when it's for ToD though, since it's got infinite duration.
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>>161172442

Damn I wanted to say I'll look for signs, not put one down.

if you wanna join put your sign down.
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>>161172467
>drying up
??
I'm invading as fast as i invaded a month ago both on lower levels and even SL130.
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>>161172608
Post webms of insta invades
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>buy dark souls 3 for $20
>30FPS

dropped
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what's this post webm meme? Does everyone happen to have something to record all their gameplay and make webms?
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>>161172720
aren't 9 out of 10 ps4 games 30fps though? what did you expect?
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>>161172786
You don't?

I watch myself playing instead of going to twitch/YT when I feel like watching vidya
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>>161172442
>>161172594
My sign is down.

Snowfield, right?
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>>161172357
>Sweihander
one of us? also, many people wont bother checking the availability of your profile since it takes a second and a half and many people have it private
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>>161172830
I'm okay with 30FPS for most other games but 30FPS makes a Souls game a slog.
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How is toxic mist buildup ?
is it better after the patch ?
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>>161172720
>that sticker placement
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>>161172594
>>161172442
Are you still summoning?
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>>161172939
Some people would want to check your country and commenting is right there.
In my case they probably wanted to see how many hours i got in the game.
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>>161171359
Miyazaki has to stop eating those.
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>>161172923

Yes.

>>161173225

Yes
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It's a real shame From listened to crybabies and made Vilhelm aggro to everyone including invader if the world is seeded.
Doesn't stop from killing seed shitters but it's sure more bothersome now.
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>>161173173
guys ?
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>>161173373
>how many hours i got in the game.
because of the noob cosplay i reckon. what was it, full EK with drakesword and knight shield?
btw how come so many people used that combo? was there a guide saying that? is there a link to that or something?
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what are the best low level rings? Im guessing prisoners chain and the stat rings?
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>>161173470
that hat is p gay dude
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>>161171642
if i were to make a low level invader, where should i invade and what level should me and my weapon be?
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>>161173670
hornet ring, silvercat, obscuring

happy twinking
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>>161169830
Checkmarks for what?
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>dicking about on level 200+ character I did NG+4 on
>actually invaded by a watchdog
>he's really, really bad
>join into friend's game
>he got invaded
>scaled down MASSIVELY (so that's new, I remember it just changing attack)
>the guy is really bad and just spends the entire time rolling away from me

I feel very suspicious right now. Something feels wrong.
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>>161173873

For a boring shitter build.
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>>161173618
It was DaS2, so Vengarl head, drangleic set, the greatsword and tower shield.
I think people just use whatever has higher numbers. Or look up guide on the wiki.
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>>161169935
Awesome, thanks for the review m8. As far as armor is concerned then should i just wear whatever? I've been reading that poise isn't as big of a thing in ds3
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>>161170358

You'll want to use the red hilted halberd, you can find it very early in the game as well, in the undead settlement. Google it.
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>>161174375
poise only matters if you're using heavier weapons, at which point you want to stack as much as you can
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>>161173470
Yeah that was a stupid ass decision. It was like this for the entire game but the moment an npc is a little too difficult for a lone host they change it. And seeds are still unbalanced as fuck.
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>>161174515
Ahhh, that makes sense then, thanks man.
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>>161172786

Just use ShadowPlay it comes with your fucking graphics card in the first place, then just google how to convert that shit into webms.
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how much end for battle axes and longswords?
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>>161174375
poise is ammo for hyperarmor basically, you don't need it with a SS.

wear as much armor as you can obviously, and make sure each slot is filled, but until you start passing the high vigor levels you usually get more lifespan from leveling up vig for more health than from leveling up vit for more armor
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>>161174729
no more than 20
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>>161174729
25-35ish range. If you're below 30 I'd definitely be using favor. It's "cool" to give a really low number when people ask this question, but having more than you "need" can be very beneficial for just draining people of their own endurance.
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>>161172968
ds1 and 2 were 30fps on ps release. ds2 became 60 with sotfs, but it's still ds2.
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>kill drake and josh at sl9
>super drake doesnt drop the leo ring
you whot mate?
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Did they ever fix the Dorkmoons?

I still need their rank for the miracle achievement and im not killing silvers for 8 hours
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I like spears, should i use the gargoyle flame spear or the lothric knight longspear (2h) ? Not turtling btw
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>>161167624
98 /bbg/ meta is best meta and has actually specialization builds instead of quality everything
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>>161176096
Partizan and Javelin
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>>161176143
lothric knight spear is secretly top tier and better than the GFS
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>>161176096
the sheer amount of cheese alone seems tempting, but can you even taste the ingredients in there?
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>>161176096
>that webbum
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>>161176562
Anderson Cooper is a very attractive man
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>>161176096
>all this cheese
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>>161173974
>>161173974
Okay I've gotten invaded three times at level 240, and every time I wound up destroying them. Do THAT many people hang around the swamp at SL 172+?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_K5vsuW4Uw

>tfw Quelaag femdom covenant was cut
Fuck you so hard Miyazaki you fucking nigger.
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>>161176796
Yes. Also a soulless man.
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>>161176143
lkls has garbo running attacks and bad 1hr1's iirc

with GFS you can go 26/40 with 25 fai (or 25 int) and do around as much damage as 40/40 while meeting reqs for good spells (for some reason building one then the other up to 40 gives more damage than leveling int and faith equal amounts)
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What are some good weapons to infuse with lighting? Besides the Lothric Sword
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>When the Ashes are two, a flame alighteth. Thou'rt Ash, and fire befits thee of course
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>>161175658
What a huge fucking shill. At least Vaati didn't immediately turn on DS2 after shilling it.
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Tell me everything you know lorewise about this area
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>>161177563
it's spooky
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>>161177563
>Knight with a wooden club
Nah, fuck you
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>>161177563
>Dark area
>Dark Souls
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>>161177563
People used to be bigger when Gwyn's flame was more prominent and the flame freshly kindled. Now they're midgets like you.
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>>161177563
change your weapon mang it doesnt look good
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>>161176818
>>161176818
>>161176818
No, seriously, I need an answer. Why are there so many post-meta people hanging around and invading people, and why are they all really bad? Like REALLY bad. As in circling around me doing nothing with their shield up even when I'm using the onyx blade and then not rolling out after two hits when their guard breaks.
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Anyone want help on PC? I'm up for a slow playthrough too!

Tell me where you want me to drop my sign :3
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>>161175658
I'd be kinda mad but since then and making up stuff about BB he has first hand knowledge when something you've gotten hyped for ends up a rotten abortion so I think Karma's got this one.
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Which claymore attacks have HA?
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How do i send proper hatemail?
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>>161178139
where do you need help?
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>>161177350
Basicly any weapon with okay scaling and low requirements.
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>invade some retard trying to be an epic 'i run through my seeded world' memer
>drag both corvians and vilhelm into him
>kill him as he runs to the bonfire
dark souls meme youtube content was a mistake
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>>161177909
>people used to be bigger
No. The Giants are a race and they're slaves for Anor Londo and Tomb of the Giants was a burial ground for Giants.

There's also traces of the Occult plot to kill the gods with the Occult shield in there.
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Anyone on ps4 wanna help transfer some things? Will do the same in return if desired.
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>>161178425
add someone on steam, then wait until he accepts.
When he accepts wait 20 minutes, after that message him if he was that player

then flame him and block him mid-conversation
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>>161178438
>where do you need help?

Anon in my post I said that I'm looking to help others :3
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>>161178362
Any 2handed attacks+weapon art.
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>>161178496
Spoken like a true midget. Gwyn's Knights 4 lyf, crusade against chaos and dark everyday.
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>>161178425
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>>161173470
Dragging Vilhelm through a seeded world is pretty fucking hilarious though.
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>>161178643
I'd fuck Chris Hemsworth
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>>161173470
what SL is this m8
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>>161177359
The fuck's your problem man?
Are you that asshole who was wishing death on his family because ABLOOBLOO HE DIDN'T PLAY OLD HUNTERS ON YT? You need to lay off this shit.
*walks away shaking head*
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>>161173801
>>161173801
anybody?
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Flamberge or claymore for SL34 invasions
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>>161179151
raw flimflam does more damage iirc (fairly good actually), but it has the bastard sword moveset (aka bad)
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>>161179151
Astora Straight Sword

outranges both, has higher damage with raw infusion + gives you free stats to get 10 int to buff it with magic wep.
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>>161178643
Amen brudda
Gwyn forever.
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>>161179134
SL25-34, 25 for undead settlement. 25-34 for crucifixion wood
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>>161178501
Plz
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>>161178823
yeah but would chris hemsworth fuck you?
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>trade the soul of the father of the abyss to a crow girl
>the master of dark magic
>get only one of his spells back

>crow girl uses the remains of the soul as bedding for her eggs
>the pieces infect her children
>become the Children of Dark
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>>161177319
Gargoyle flamespear is always the best option between these two right ?
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>>161179448
It's perfectly safe to just use an incredibly rough benchmark.

>20 +2 high wall/settlement
>30 +3 forest/watchdog
>40 +4 cathedral/keep
>50 +5 catacombs/irithyll
>60 +6 dungeon/capital/anor londo
>70 +7 lothric castle/archives
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>>161179340
THAT DOESN'T RHYME
YOU CAN MAKE IT RHYME
STOP POSTING IT
OCELOOOOOOOTTE
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Havel the rock is named after Vaclav Havel, the first prime minister of Czech republc, who throughout his life was imprisoned several times due to his political beliefs. Havel being locked away in that tower was simply a nod to the political figure he was named after. Nothing more.

Sens fortress is named after William of Sens, a renowned mason who was one of the pioneers in Gothic architecture- one notable thing about his life is that he was crippled after falling off scaffolding on one of his construction projects. This is the only reason why the level was named Sens. Not because Sens was some mythical figure in the Dark Souls world

Hawk eye Gough is simply named after John Gough- a blind English philosopher. That's why he was blind.

See - Miyazaki has no master plan. He just took a bunch of names, and threw the at a canvas like some talentless maker of modern "art", and the fans and Lotemasters just stared at the splattered blobs until shapes started to take form. Nothing more.

Vaati and ENB are in fact nothing more than pretentious modern art critics.
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>>161179583
most people would say so
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Design a boss for the next DLC that's challenging but not bullshit(i.e the challenge isn't a million phases during which the boss' health gets reset) using mechanics doable with current Souls game a.i standards(i.e the boss cannot "learn" from players).

Or alternatively, come up with ways that could make the bossfight mildly challenging even in co-op besides just adding more health.
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>>161179691
>he was crippled after falling off scaffolding
fitting
>This is the only reason why the level was named Sens. Not because Sens was some mythical figure in the Dark Souls world
the fact that something is a reference to something doesn't mean it doesn't have to make sens in its own world. there still needs to be someone named Sen in the dark souls univer-
>molotov cocktail
>braille tomes
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>>161179959

Go back in time to when the dancer was still human. Leggings are infant silk stockings like what the desert sorceress wear.

Sits on your face for a 1 hit kill move

AI is coded so that if you do the lie down gesture, she will 100% go in for the face sitting attack.
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>>161180051
I think Ornstein was also named after Leo Ornstein or something.
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>>161179790
Doesn't thrusts attacks with leo ring only affect the physical damage tho ?
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>>161180154
That would be impossible since nobody would progress past that fight.
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>>161179691
Sen's Fortress is a translation error. It's "Fortress of 1000 traps" or something similar in japanese.
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Is it normal to feel pretty competent at DaS1/2 but go into DaS 3 and be shit? I beat Iudex Gundyr on my second try (the snake thing threw me for a loop first time) but now I'm really struggling with the High Wall enemies.
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>>161179534
Probably not but I think somehow I'll survive
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>>161179550
I always assumed the children of Dark in DaS 2 came from something Manus did to Dusk of Oolacile.

>Dusk comes before Night
2deep
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>>161180352
DaS3's faster pace takes a little while to get used to. On my first playthrough I was getting killed a bunch by the hollow greataxeman and the dogs because didn't realize just how easy dodging was.
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>>161180504
So am I supposed to dodge spam like in Witcher 2? I'd gotten used to a much more deliberate pace.
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>>161180489

Manus always wanted to be a little blond girl. He simply took Dusk so he can try to transform into her form

I'm DS2 he succeeded

Also visited Il Duomo yesterday
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>>161180264
counterhits in general only multiply thrust damage, but GFS still mostly physical iirc. According to mugen a 40/40 gfs is 515 whereas a lkls is 414. If half your hits are counterhits you might do more with lkls, but it's got an overall worse moveset and less versatile scaling.
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>>161180698
But only Nashandra was blond. And Dusk's hair was gray.
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>>161180593
Blocking is fine too, especially against dogs.
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>>161180593
You certainly can play in a deliberate way, but you have to choose your battles. Trying to block the big guys will get you guardbroken fast so with them it's smarter to dodge.
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>>161180698
>Also visited Il Duomo yesterday
Did you see any Silver Knights ?
Did you fall because of their RPG bows and arrows ?

I want to go there, it'll feel like Anal Rodeo
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>>161180698
so much detail it's insane
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did a ban wave go out?
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>>161180698

You mean the Milan one? Been there a few years ago, it looks amazing.
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I've never played dark souls 2, so how high is the affect of ADP or whatever it that governs I-frames from you rolls, can you get away with base or is it recommended to upgrade it to a point ?
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>get to Vordt
>boss enters second stage
>the music actually changes and gets more intense
This is my jam

>>161181256
It's recommended to upgrade it a bit. I think 92 agility is considered a common basement level because it gives you the same iframes as that medium DaS 1 dodge.
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>>161181380
>This is my jam

It happens to almost every DaS 3 boss
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>tfw you get killed by a 4 person r1 spam fest
I'm not even mad, I just don't want to play anymore after shit like this. Wish they would hurry up with DLC2 so I can write this game off, its probably the least satisfying in the series.
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>>161181256
>>161181380
Also if you're a mage, keep in mind attunement contributes a little bit to agility.
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>>161181380
Vordt has a great theme, wish he didn't get nerfed. The fight is too easy after that.
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>>161181256

I LITERALLY spend my first 20-25 level ups on any new character raising Adaptibility.
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>>161181457
yessss

>>161181636
He's killed me several times but I guess I'm still adapting to how DaS 3 works.
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>>161181470
just use the environment bro :)
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SOOOO anyone on ps4 wanna do some item transferring? I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine?
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>>161181636
He got nerfed ?

I played shortly after release, I don't remember him being hard.
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>>161181470
*stretches arm and index finger towards the ground where your lifeless husk of a body lies and belongs*
get shat on, kiddo
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>>161181707
>I LITERALLY spend my first 20-25 level ups on any new character raising Adaptibility.
This is incredible overkill. I guess you're just not happy unless your character is visibly humping the enemy weapon for a full second but still taking now damage?
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>>161180051
I remember someone saying that sen's fortress is just a shitty translation, sen = thousand in japanese and the japanese name can be translated as the "thousand traps fortress"
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I miss when this thread was just DaS1 and the ocassional DeS.
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>>161182036
I miss fucking your mother
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>>161181850

Yes because that's EXACTLY what's needed in DaSII, with its amazing hitboxes and ''''''''''''''''''''''''shockwaves''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
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>>161181256
ADP determines your Agility stat, and the difference is enormous.

>85 AGI = 5 iframes on roll
>116 AGI = 16 iframes on roll

>85 AGI = 3 iframes on backstep
>116 AGI = 9 iframes on backstep

A warrior starts with 5 ADP, which equals 85 AGI, or 6 rolling iframes. It caps out at 95 ADP giving 116 AGI, or 16 rolling iframes. 25 ADP is a good cut-off for most characters, giving 100 AGI, or 12 iframes. Twenty levels will quite literally double your window of invulnerability.
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>>161182117
The hitboxes are as good as in DaS 1 now. When they do fuck up it usually favors the player. Git gud.
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>>161181190

Ey
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>>161182036
/sotfsg/ and /ds3g/ containment generals when?
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>>161182036
I don't.
The thread was the same back&forth shitposting between DaS1 and DeS as it is with DaS3 and DaS2 now.

But we did have more FCs and community events. We even had enough xbox people to do xbox fcs.
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>>161182192
>/sotfsg/
excuse you? ds2 posters are not cancer
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>>161173173
can somebody answer this ?
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>>161181957
This is correct. Fortress Of One Thousand Traps.
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>>161182192
Do it and see how long it takes the DaS 1 and DeS fags to turn on each other.
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>>161181803
he could cancel out of ice breath if you hit him
he was never actually challenging, in fact i really wish that his entire body became a hitbox during his charges so you couldn't just chop his belly off
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>>161181256
the game feels better the higher you adp is 20 will suffice for PvE but I went up to 33 or 34 on most of my pvp builds because it gives you roll the same iframes as DS1 dwg ring

20 adp should get you to the 96 agility breakpoint with just the default attunement on most classes. I HIGHLY suggest getting up to at least this point. you first 10 or so levels should go right into adp because hitboxes and tracking in DS2 are unforgivably bad
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>>161182036
nobody stops you from posting ds1. it's just that we've reached that point where everything has been said things aren't meant to carry on forever, no matter how hard change is
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>>161182181
so no more ce fun?
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>>161182179

>the hitboxes are as good as in DaS1 now

The fuck is that supposed to mean?
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>>161181726
He can be pretty though, when he runs up and uses his mace instead of charging.
>>161181803
Yeah, he cannot be staggerd out his ice breathing attack. So when he does the ice brath attack you can wail on him for a lot of hp.
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>>161182263
Yes
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>>161182304
>in fact i really wish that his entire body became a hitbox during his charges
so he can become oceiros mk1? no thanks
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>>161182289
We did this in 3 years ago. People were at each others' throats about which game was more "hardcore" and which game was better at this and this or that and that.
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rate my DS1 invader build, fix it how you want

i was never good at making low SL builds

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/120956
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>>161182320
>levels should go right into adp because hitboxes and tracking in DS2 are unforgivably bad
This is outdated advice. Current SotFS is fine in this regard.
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>>161182267

>have to fight through Anor Londo after Sens fortress
>only one trap
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>>161172720
that's 1 dollar per 1.5 FPS, not that bad
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>>161182543
his charges are twice as slow as oceiros
it's ridiculous that you're not getting hurt by his massive body as he leaps around
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>>161182789
I'll admit that while I haven't beaten him yet it's kind of bullshit that I can just sandwich myself between his baby bearing hips and wail on him.
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>>161173470
>making game mechanics consistent is bad
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>>161182327
People are still discovering new shit about DaS1 and when console emulation reaches the point where DeS is playable on PC, we'll have a lot more discussion about that.

>>161182320
>trying to fight Pursuer on base ADP
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>>161182991
>DeS will never experience a PC renaissance

Perpetual sadness machine.
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>>161182662
SotFS only seemed to fix the worst examples like the abortion that was ancient dragon. You will still have regular mobs changing direction of leaping attacks mid air and pvp esque phantom range on spear attacks and some boss moves
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>die linking the Flame which ultimately won't achieve anything as Flame is too weak to be kindled
>destroy the Flame and maybe bang Firekeeper but ultimately you both will die in total darkness
>become a motherfucking god who has a hollowed flame inside of him, with 3 girls ready to fulfill your every desire and lead the world into the true age of humans
Why they made lord of hollows so cool compared to other ones?
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>>161182991
>to this day new backstab tech is developed
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>>161182991
>People are still discovering new shit about DaS1
like?
>DeS is playable on PC
we got a few years for that
>needing more than 85 agi for pursuer
lol? if you can't dodge, just parry his ass
>>161182976
only vilhelm is an npc, who have always been unaffected by player phantoms other than bodyblocking. they made the mechanics more inconsistent
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>>161183316
>lead the world into the true age of humans
doubt
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>>161183126
i remember ancient dragon being a shockwave master even in sotfs
>>
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>>161183316
Because you're an edgelord, refusing to end it all and finally save the world
>>
Did Dark Souls II devs go out of their way to design tedious boss runs. They probably had "annoyance" at the centre of a brain storm on a whiteboard.
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>>161177319

The trick with the LKLS is the R2's which are unique to pike-class weapons (of which LKLS is the best) and are fucking insane. They are literally the longest reaching attack in the game because of that gigantic fuck-off step you take to do them. I've found it to be very useful with an offhand estoc or crow quills, the R2 gets you in there and then you poke the crap out of them with the thrusting sword.

So it's a trade. Just remember that the R2 is the reason you use the LKLS, also it's pure physical damage and buffable of course. The R2 for the LKLS is like the dark sword's 1HR1, think of it that way. Also the 1HR2 of the LKLS actually isn't that much slower than the 2H version in all honesty.
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>>161183393
>not researching the method of creating infinite purging stones and techniques to keep hollows sane forever
>not taming pus of man and pilgrim butterflies to serve as means of transportation
>not building magnificent gothic castles everywhere
>not connecting the world directly to the Abyss and helping humanity sprites to feel real warmth of life instead of endless misery
>not advancing the dark magic to such an extent your civilization of Hollows can eventually leave the planet and explore the universe as cosmic beings, wise and eternal
Sky is the limit.
>>
this general is really dead huh
>>
ded thred ded game ded general
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>>161183873
>>161184071

I killed it
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>>161183537
>being this casul
Dark Souls 2 has the easiest boss runs in the history of the series.
Which one is it that you're having trouble with?
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>>161183316

>letting the world die so you can be alone with your waifu and wait for the next cycle of humanity


Anyone here played Enderal? It's like the Star city ending. Calia best girl too
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>>161183873
>>161184071
>>161184093

All me
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>>161181778
Friends? Buddehs?
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>>161183841
Sounds cool tbqh
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>>161184130
Tried it, didn't get too far and stopped. I really liked nehrim, is it any similair?
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>>161183841
This is why we need Londor DLC
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>>161183841
>Humans are helpless against curses,
>and can only redirect their influence.
>The Purging Stone does not dispel curses,
>but receives them as a surrogate. The stone
>itself was once a person or some other being.

How are you going to do that?
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>>161184619
Create artificial life with magic. Lock it in purging stones.
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>>161184714
Where will you find those purging stones tho,
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>>161184453

Some minor characters reappear or get mentioned, like Tealor Arantheals halfcaste edgelord supreme gentlemen atheist wife's son. But it has skyrims combat system which you can mod, so it's better than Nehrim.

I've already played through twice and am waiting for the DLC
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>>161184820
Clam farms.
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>tfw you've mastered the Dark Souls 1 backstabs in DaSIII
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>>161184714
It's more than magic my man.

Trying to create new life gets you turned into the Bed of Chaos or similar. What do you think happened to Aldia?
Trying to resurrect life gets you Navlaan'd.
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Are the elemental big pellet items better for resisting specific elements or should I just pick up GMB and swap between elemental stone plate rings for each opponent?
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>>161185018
You can stack GMB with pellets if you wonder
Bluestone plate + blue bug pellet + GMB is pretty fun against mages
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>>161185006
DS2's lore is irrelevant.
Bed of Chaos was a proof that you can indeed create an artificial life. It's only a matter of mastering this process and it's not like you need a true source of life, just something that can be a substitute for a curse.
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>>161185106
I thought that GMB and bug pellets were both body buffs? Can't you only have 1 body buff at a time?
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>>161184943
>at his shoulder
>still get stab back
wft man
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>>161182570
rate my DS1 invader build, fix it how you want
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>>161185213
No i tried it myself and they both stacks
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>>161185225
Welcome to dark souls
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Why are watchdogs so fucking retarded? Why do they try to kill invaders? They don't get grass for that shit. Idiots
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>>161184943
Why do people use Llewellyn shield over iron round shield?
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>>161185331
people actually defend this?
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>>161185517
It looked great in DaS2, but looks like shit now. Some people can't let go of the image in their memory and think it's still pretty.
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>>161185225
>>
I bought Dark Souls 3 yesterday and tried to play it today. When i launch it, it sends my monitor out of range, and neither steam launch options nor the nvidia controller can fix this. what do I do?
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>>161185517

I don't know why anyone would ever use any shield that's not a greatshield, parrying shield, BK shield or LK shield, except for fashion my man
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really wish From wasn't lazy with Yuria's face
canonically both she and Liliane are probably as cute as Friede
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>>161185814
>that damage on a hornet ring backstab
twinks like that invader are the people who now complain about invasions not being easymode anymore
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>>161185901
Why does everyone draw her with white hair and yellow eyes?
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>>161185959
anon come on

that's his remaining HP

that's NG++ SL120 there's no twinks there
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>>161185868
Small shields are pretty good for parrying.

>>161185748
I think it looks good, but it's just an objectively worse iron round shield, which is also good looking.
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>>161185959
Isn't that a finishing strike? Meaning it won't deal any overkill damage?
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>>161186129
>>161186197
nvm I'm retarded fuck fuck fuck fuck brb killing myself
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Is the fire betrayal ending the end of the dark souls world ?
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>>161185901
>white hair
same reason they draw ciaran blond; the headpiece hair
>yellow eyes
no idea
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>>161183445

Where?
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>>161185517

You have to farm for it.
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How is toxic mist buildup after the patch ?
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>>161186129
don't contradict him, he needs his strawman to jusitfy all the invader nerfs
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Holy crap,low level invasions + rapier are fun as fuck
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>>161186306
no, it's just a reset
world will form again, flame will be born again
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>>161186667
So much cheese. I love it. Fucking hosts up left and right in the woods.
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>>161183316

Or...I could just take all the fire for myself, cuck
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>>161186717
Especially with hornet ring,you can actually one shit niggers witha +5 rapier
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>>161185959
>>that damage on a hornet ring backstab
>65 damage
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>>161186975
Shit where you invading with at +5? I'm at +3 with Farron/Woods as my playground.
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>>161187042
Catacombs,I'm about to try my luck in the forrest
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>>161185979
someone posted an image where they'd modified yuria's head to have white hair and yellow eyes and half the thread thought it was her actual face
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>>161186592
thanks !
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Name 5

Areas that are comfy:
>Shrine of Storms 1
>Sanctuary Garden
>Corvian settlement
>Darkroot Garden
>Distant Manor

Areas that look great:
>Irithyll
>3-2
>Anor Londo DS1
>Brume Tower
>Archdragon Peak

Areas that are well designed from a level design standpoint:
>Undead Burg
>Forest of the Fallen Giants
>Cathedral of the Deep
>Painted World of Ariamis
>1-1

Areas that are spooky:
>New Londo Ruins
>Latria 1
>Latria 2
>Tomb of the Giants
>Irithyll Dungeon

Areas that are deeply flawed(name flaws if you can)
>Stonefang 2 (shitty camera,pillbugs,fps issues)
>Doors of Pharros(linear, uninteresting)
>Demon Ruins(bloom, uninteresting combat, uninspired level geometry)
>Horsedick valley(infinite rape ponies)
>Aldia's Keep(a single corridor)
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lots of dorks getting summoned into my invasions

maybe they fixed something
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Can you parry Gottharss rolling R1?
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>>161188069
yes
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>>161188069
yes

parry when the head is almost vertical after roll
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>>161186592
THANKS !
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Guys how do i reach this item? I've played through ds1 three times, and I've yet to find a way to reach it, getting desperate.
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>>161186592
THANKS !!
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>>161187848
>three blues and a phantom against one invader

This is what the Dark Souls series is now.
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>>161188317
When you reach the area with the Stone Knights, there's a living tree you can cut down and it'll reveal a new area. You'll go down a path, then find another path that takes you up.
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>>161188317

There are two ways to get to it. You can jump down on your left here, or go to the garden area with the Stone Knights and find a tree you can attack.
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Is it still considered a shitlord weapon ?
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I love bullying!
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>First time against Pontiff
>Get fucking rekt
>15th time against Pontiff
>Get fucking rekt

God damn this boss makes me realise how shit I am at vidya.
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>>161187278
>>161188232
>>161188396
this kind of shit makes people NOT want to talk to you, you fucking child. get a friend and test it
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>>161188639
yes

but lothric knight long spear is even more meta now
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>>161188652
bow bully bow bully I'm your biggest fan keep up the good work
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>>161188731
>lothric knight spear meta
What happened ?
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>>161187305
frozen outskirts wasnt flawed, it did a perfect job of being an area that feels incredibly unfair and bullshit but is actually not bad when you learn the trick. When you get the timing down between the checkpoints you only have to fight 2 ponys total between the bonfire and the boss fog. I found the iron passage far more bullshit.

Vanilla Shrine of Armana also takes the cake on most poorly designed areas because it was a massive fuck you for people running legit but was one of the easiest and enemy barren areas in the game if you just bow cheesed 3 enemies or so
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>>161188396
>WAAAAH SPOONFEED ME
kill yourself
>>
Third time's a charm right? If anyone on ps4 wants to help transfer some items, I'll be sure to return the favor. I'm transfering some ng+rings, so you can keep them if you backup your save before handing them off.
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>>161188856
passive reactive leo ring L2 R2 R2 combo happened
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>>161178441
I thought it got rid of the scaling though, so wouldn't you want one with bad scaling already so you aren't losing much of anything?
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>>161188856
nothing, it's a hipster weapon

its technically been nerfed, it gives less poise now
>>
what if the rotten town is blight town?
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>>161189216
Yes
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>>161188894
>>161188693
(you's)
kys niggers
no wonder this general is a dead shit
>>
>if you warp in Demon's Souls while wearing a dress your dress will vanish first, leaving your character in underwear for a little while before the rest of you warps
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>>161189383
no wonder you still don't have the answer to your question retard
>>
>tfw no greatscissors
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>>161189383
You're welcome
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why are we still here?
>>
>>161189743
just to suffer
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>>161189743

I have nowhere to go.
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Man I sure love this one guy who keeps samefaging about the general being dead
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>>161189743
This is our curse
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>>161188824

Co-op bullying!
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>>161189743
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>>161189743
Autism mainly
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The miscarriage took its toll on ENB, poor guy

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ0HGJvtaRU
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Wait, Darkwraiths can drop slabs? I thought you could only get a few slabs per playthrough
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>>161190447
DS3 is the only soulsborne game to lock vital upgrade materials behind a NG farm wall
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>>161190447
REALLY low chance
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>>161190447
0.1% drop
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>>161190447

That's how you farm Slabs in DaS. You can get all types of Slabs. Moonlight Butterflies = Blue Slab, Mini Pinwheels = White Slab, Chaos Eater = Red Slab.
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>>161190447
That's ds3 you're thinking of
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Anyone on PS4 wanna coop through the woods with me? Clear the sage and the level 100% and fuck up some watchdogs along the way.

Pass is dsg12 by the halfway fortress bonfire.
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>>161190521
Gold Winged Knights drop slabs
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>>161190618
only once and they dont drop it. its an "event" reward for killing all 3 of them the first time
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>>161190618
slab*. Singular
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>>161190106
What bow is that anyway? Looks familiar
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>>161190669
There's like three slabs in the DLC to pick up.

Otherwise there's no real way to farm slabs, that I'm aware of.
>>
>Irina is gone
>gave her the tomes but didn't buy any dark miracles

what gives? am I fucked for the rest of her spells til ng+ ?
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>>161190794
Nah she just moved outdoors to get some fresh air
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>>161190434
Enb and parries
Enb and parries
Go together like his wife and miscarriage
This I tell you brother
He had a kid but won't have a-nother

Seriously though he's being a champ about the whole thing considering how people are getting triggered over non-issues. I'm sure that he gets sad about it but not totally ptsd mode.
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>>161188558
>>161188625
Thanks guys, it sure was refreshing to explore a new area and encounter new types of enemies.
Kinda sad though to realise I have now been everywhere and have 0 mysteries to solve.
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>>161190434

>The miscarriage
>Singular
lol
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>>161190771
theres 11 in total per cycle, 10 of which easily accessible because 1 requires the entire seigward questline. This in addition to limited respecs only exist to force you to go through NG+X which is admittedly more of an annoyance but still on serves to fuck with you
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>>161190749

Millwood Greatbow. It's amazing, and perfect for bullying.
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>>161190878
Yeah i actually feel bad for him, i don't want people to go through that shit, and i certainly hope i won't.
Not saying i don't chuckle at the jokes ofc, but people who are happy he has to deal with that are pathetic
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>>161191024
Ahh, I'll need to try it out then. Have you ever tried the Onislayer? I was wondering if it's a decent alternative
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>>161190898

Have you found Great Magic Barrier?
Have you found the Avelyn?
Have you found the Occult Ember?
Have you found the Gravelord Covenant & Tranquil Walk of Peace?
Have you found the two illusory walls in Oolacile?

These are some harder to find items and places I can think of.
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>>161191189
Onislayer is godlike for really long range sniping
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>>161190878
>Enb and parries
>Enb and parries
>Go together like his wife and miscarriage
>This I tell you brother
>He had a kid but won't have a-nother
anon that does not go at all I'm sorry to say
too many syllables per line
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>>161190946
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>>161191283
Say no more, my pp is hard enough
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>>161191213
>Have you found the two illusory walls in Oolacile?

There are actually three if you include the Manuses Abyss, I meant to write Oolacile Township.
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>>161191416
With onislayer bow/arrows and hawk ring i managed to land a headshot (in post-pontiff area) from where the silvers knights are to where the titatine scale is with decent damage
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>>161190946
Yep. The Reclusive Lord of the Profaned Womb lives up to his name.

>>161191298
It doesn't really but I've been watching Married With Children reruns recently so the song's playing in my head.
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What should I do next? A no shield challenge run or a no summon challenge run?
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Is there anyway to increase the hp of healing miracles?
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>>161191726
I had no idea he had ANOTHER miscarriage, thats rough
>>
Someone help me break 1000 ar with my sl1
Right now I can get 980
Raw dragonslayer axe
Morion blade
Rtsr
Lightning clutch
Knight and hunter ring
Gold pine resin
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>>161191928
Have you tried boost rings?
>>
>>161192084

Dragon?
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>>161191726
>this amount of y'all in one reddit post
KKona
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>>161192131
Does dragon stone give you ar?
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>>161192193

Yes, I think it's the same buff as the axe WA.
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>>161191631
>>161191416
Onislayer is great and very fashionable, but it doesn't have shit on Millwood. The weapon art giving the arrow a timed miniature wrath of god which can knock people down even if you miss, and deals heavy damage in its own right. This can take down the entire group in an invasion, and if they're hiding behind a rock shooting an exploding arrow by the side of the rock will force them out or make them take a hit.
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>>161192131
It's like 30 ar for 6 seconds
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>>161192089
Anything else?
Don't want to waste ring slots.
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>>161192257
The axe buff overwrites resins I'm assuming the dragon stone will do the same.
>>161192346
6 second? Gross
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>>161192295
I really gotta try out the bows by the looks of it

>>161192384
Not that I know of actually. I don't think there's anything else that boosts healing.
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What's the scariest feeling in any of the dark souls games?
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>>161192512

It doesn't remove your weapon buff, it just increases your AR as much as the WA. Screenshot is 66str 2h Yhorms with both buffs.
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>>161192590
The feeling that the souls series will never be good again after playing das3
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>>161192590

Those sounds near the prison cubes in the Painted World or the start of the Four Kings fight.
>>
If Darkmoons are allowed to invade Anor Londo even after the boss is killed, how come Darkwraiths can't invade players who travel to New Londo after killing the Four Kings?
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>>161192636
I guess now I can theoretically break 1k at sl1 now. Shame it only lasts 6 seconds.
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>>161192516
Don't forget bows benefit from Leo ring. Millwood also has a very low dex req if you're a strength build.
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>>161190604
still need help ?
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>>161192751
Invasions should be on at all times desu. Game gets real lonely after the princes.
>>
So I'm watching Epic Name Bro's Dark Souls 3 playthrough, and he said something like "I just need to git gud!"

I was shocked! Is he one of us?
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>>161193003
We're discussing a good game here, don't get in the way
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>>161193003
Make a covenant that gives you a slab per every 10 successful invasions or every 10 invasions you've successfully killed the invader.
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>>161192590
Being in the Abyss
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>>161192910
Hmm, sure! I'm about to kill the sage. Would you like to do the Cathedral with me?
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>>161182991
>People are still discovering new shit about DaS1 and when console emulation reaches the point where DeS is playable on PC, we'll have a lot more discussion about that.
Can't wait till 2030 when I can play DaS 1 levels in the DaS 3 engine with DaS 2 mechanics.
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>>161193142
>ganking covenant

Nice
>>
do the manikan claws have the same amount of parry frames as caestus? would it be a straight upgrade if I can take the slightly increased weight due to the higher range that comes into play one in a thousand fights?
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>>161193019
Git gud is an r/demonssouls meme thatrwe took and made our own
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>>161183841
>>not advancing the dark magic to such an extent your civilization of Hollows can eventually leave the planet and explore the universe as cosmic beings, wise and eternal
This is where the Great Ones from Bloodborne came from canonically
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>>161193229
Yes, I used claws to parry for a while. People use Caestus for it's weight only.
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>>161193181
The reason people are still discovering things about 1 is exactly because it lacks 2's mechanics and 3's engine
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>>161193224
PvP is PvP, ganking is apart of the game my lad
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>>161192590
The most spooked I've ever been in a Dark Souls game was DS2.

In the garbage hole there's an entrance to the Grave of Saints.
This fucking hollow is just sitting there, in the darkness where he's hard to see. Every now and then he laughs.
It's this weird, gurgling sound out of no where and somehow sounds like it's coming from behind you.
Keep in mind that I thought the screamers in Irithyl were just general ambiance and had nothing to do with picking up items, that's how unruslted I was.

But that chuckle fuck actually scared me.
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>>161193330
DaS 1 and DaS 3 are in the same engine
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>>161193345
t. host with 3 phantoms and WoB in a seeded world sitting behind a fog wall
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>>161193019
"Git Gud" was a widespread thing to say in the Souls community in 2013 already. And it's not like there's such a huge divide between the souls fanbase on Reddit and in here, it's the same people.

He knows the extreme memes because of his audience who spout them at him. Although he's also kind of a huge fucking weeb so it wouldn't surprise me if he browsed /jp/ or /a/ since he's into Berserk as a manga but he mutes his powerlevel pretty well.
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>>161193383
I thought I was the only one spooked by that guy. I wonder how long he's been sitting there, gurgling to himself in the dark...
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>>161193430
Not any different from being a twink shitting on scrubs trying to get to the fog gate my friend
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>>161192590
when you're playing dark souls 1 and you see a health bar appear suddenly for no reason in the distance but you don't hear the invader sound but you imagine you did
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>>161193070
>invasions make the game worse

Anon...
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>>161193614
No anon, first guy said something about DaS 1, second one comes in and talks about how it gets lonely after princes (something from DaS 3).
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>>161192516
>>161192295

Yes, the Millwood Greatbows shits over all other greatbows, easily. The extra range on the Onislayer is nice, but doesn't come close to the damage and usefulness of the weaponart of the Millwood GB.
>>
can you farm dorkmoon ears if the host of a FC is in the way of the blue?
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>>161193892
No because WoB doesn't trigger on those.

I have a theory you could farm with 2 other friends if one hosted with an unpopular SL + area combination, a second invaded and a third sat with darkmoon waiting and hoping for a summon, then you'd summon aditional reds
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>>161192590
New Londo Ruins is fucking horrifying before you drain the water and unpleasant after you do. Whenever I'm in there I just want to get back out quick.

Shaded Woods was also pretty good NOPE material.

Dark Anor Londo is also scary as fuck and feels lonely because when Anor Londo goes dark, there are no friendly NPCs around anymore.

In Dark Souls 3 probably Unintended Graves but it turns into a quick boss run after your first time.
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>>161194079
>New Londo Ruins is fucking horrifying before you drain the water and unpleasant after you do. Whenever I'm in there I just want to get back out quick.
Going in blind that first banshee ambush made me jump. Also uncovering the mound of mummified bodies at the flood gates was spoopy.
>>
>>161194079
New Londo make me feel uneasy everytime
>>
Witch's locks is pretty good for pve. Hitting multiple foes, lots of stuff is weak to fire, quick 1HR2 to 1HR1 combo
>>
>taking a hit that drops you to such low health that you think you died and ending up actually dying because you already put the controller down expecting the loading screen
>dying because you thought you finished off a boss but it survived with 1 hp and the bar looked completely empty
why the FUCK is there no option for numerical health displays
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>>161193019
is this bait? you can literally buy mass produced clothing products with the phrase "git gud" on them, you've been able to for years

>>161191928
No, just have a better talisman/chime and pump more scaling into it. The firstborn's ring doesn't affect it. Great heal with bare minimum faith and the ideal talisman gives you 721 HP, a point over a +10 orange flask with the estus ring equipped. That's over half your health unembered for sure, and at least two fifths of most peoples embered hp. You can heal around 60 more hp if you put the priestess ring on before casting.
>>
I've just started DaS2 and good fucking lord, whats the animations in this, everything looks so god damn stiff and feels like that too.
>>
>>161194537
You no longer break your joints whenever you swing. It takes getting used to.
>>
Soul level 163, sotfs ps3, need help fighting elana
>>
Do you think they will fix the chime glitch ?
>>
>>161192590
>That leap of faith into the yawning abyss to fight four kings

All of New Londo was generally unsettling, but entering that boss fight felt like you were going beyond reality to fight some real bad shit too bad it turned out to be a DPS mash fest :^)
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>>161194696
There is something about the roll which I don't like too much, I can't describe it, but eh. Am gonna get my 7 quid worth either way.
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>>161192590
I legit cannot stay in the New Londo abyss for more than two minutes
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>>161194537
Ds2 animators didn't usually move any limbs that weren't directly being used, so it looks pretty robotic. The upper half of your body won't move much at all if you're just walking or running. It's also the acceleration. I think the ds2 animators just set keyframes then used linear interpolation between each one. They also tried fixing the ds1 footsies by pinning the feet to the floor, but when enemies need to step to the right after having already put their right foot down, they'll phase their knees through eachother. It's really easy to see on enemies like syan knights if you just keep running in circles around them. It has some creative backstabs and ripostes but is overall the most poorly animated game as far as implementation goes. The only thing people defend is the model rigging, but when you look at things like your character's shoulder topology (especially on female characters) you can see that sort of thing is really just a lost cause.
>>
>>161195076
level your ADP

das2's roll is identical in speed to das1's fastroll, the i-frames are not until you level ADP until your AGL is 105
>>
does leo ring works with soldering iron ?
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>>161188557
>3 blues

No actually it's 2, I used to think that too but basically when a 2nd blue is summoned, it shows you where both are. So when the 1st is summoned it shows you where #1 is, when the second is summoned it shows you where #2 is but also where #1 is a second time. It just looks weird if they're summoned one after the other.

That said blues are so often garbage and I've played enough invasions to the point where worst case scenario, I can successfully lead a group through every relevant mob on the map between the bonfire and the boss and survive, so I don't think it's that big of a deal. Pretty much never comes to that but if it did and they somehow survived all that and I was out of estus or something I'd probably just crystal out and mark it a win for successfully fucking with them through the whole level.

I killed so many blues and even super high level scaled down phantoms (I'm talking full havels and shit) tonight alone it's crazy. It continues to surprise me how if you know what you're doing and use good weapons you can be outnumbered by so much and still win consistently and often.
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>>161194537
The animations are motion captured in that game instead of being overly exaggerated like in the other game
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anyone at sl120 wanna come fight NG+2 Gwyn?
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>>161194537
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>>161195175
No, I understand that, I just mean the animation of it, unless that changes with ADP, then that might alleviate the issue for me.
>>
>>161193239
>>161193459
Yeah, but he's one of the writers for the game, right?
That's pretty cool that he's also a 4channer/redditor.
>>
Anyone. Sl30-40 wanna take on allant with me?
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>>161195172
Oh shit, and I totally forgot about the falconer run. I feel like mentioning it is a spoiler in and of itself though.
>>
do blessed/simple infusions have scaling regen? would upgrading my blessed caestus do fucking anything?
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>>161195232
on PC of course since if it was console i wouldn't need to ask. these lazy gooks need to fix the steam version
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>>161195454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Th96wgegHw

>BUT MUH DS3 WRISTS
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>>161195539
Parry him
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>tfw sniping people off the rafters in the cathedral and you see the host + 2 phantoms running across and their lives are in your hands and you could just kill the host right there but you're considering bullying and killing his phantoms first because downscaled phantoms give a load of souls and greatarrows are really expensive so you just stand there thinking and playing god
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>>161195201

Oh and btw if you're wondering, I won that invasion. It was a 1v4 and I ended up fucking their shit up by moving up the level and killing 2 of them when they tried to take on the fire witches, then kiting the other two and eventually getting them to trigger the irithyll knights a little farther up. Obscuring ring is pretty fucking sweet not gonna lie.
>>
Have the servers been taking a shit today? So many teleport iceskaters and ghosthits today
>>
>>161195658
but i wanted to have fun with friends
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>>161195970
>/dsg/
>friends
>>
dark souls 2/3 was a mistake
>>
>>161195886

greatarrows really aren't that expensive, especially if you're just using them to knock people off of things to their death. try lightning bolts for a knight's xbow, 300 a pop and I fire those things off like candy, they're like long range R1's with AoE in the crux woods and farron keep or irithyll in the water.
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>>161195454
What about the Falconer, thats the class am playing as for my first playthrough
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>>161196154
I invaded a guy earlier who had a phantom with Evelyn and lightning bolts.
Fucking tilted me because of the range and AOE on those.
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>>161194423
>putting the controller down
>ever
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how the hell do people even get to SL120

im at 90 right now and it takes forever for 1 level now.
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I fucked up patches' quest guys
I activated rosaria's bonfire before opening the cathedral doors and now he won't spawn
;_;
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>>161194876
Post it to reddit and see
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>>161196376
NG+
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>>161195175
>das2's roll is identical in speed to das1's fastroll
no way, it feels like it has a much longer recovery than das1 fastroll
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>>161196421
He'll still spawn at the Firelink tower
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I wish there was a way to put a sign down and have it appear at every boss gate or bonfire. Sometimes I just wanna help people and not sit around in one area hoping to find someone
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>>161196204
no, I mean the falconer enemies. They don't have the same model as the player character. Refer to >>161195647 if you want to see.
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>>161196274

It's Avelyn, and I don't like it because it wastes too many bolts imo. Besides I'm doing SL30 invasions here.

Knight's xbow is perfect because of the stat requirements, you just have to make sure to use lightning bolts with it (I use heavy as my secondary but I have yet to actually use all 99 lightning bolts in a single invasion). If I had the strength stats I'd use an Arbalest over an Avelyn.

Still holy shit is a good xbow with the right ammo good for invasions. I'm also a huge fan of both regular and black firebombs.
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>>161195186
uh uh ?
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>>161195524
>do blessed/simple infusions have scaling regen?
yes, the higher the upgrade the better the regen
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>>161196508
When and how? Just go to firelink?
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>>161196591

Leo works with any thrust damage for counterthrust attacks. All you need to ask yourself is if any attack is a thrust attack.
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>>161195186
you're welcome
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>>161196154

Nah mate they're 800 souls a piece and killing a host gives me like 400 souls.

How can a man like me make a living here.
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>>161196691
it says "standard" but every attack looks like a thrust attack
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>>161196657
Go in the tower behind the shrine, buy the key from the jewish merchant before. Then just take the elevator in the tower and patches will be there (you'll hear the sound of the door closing).
He then will be inside the shrine
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>>161196657
>>161196863

if you don't feel like buying the tower key, just kill irina instead, she drops the tower key pretty much whenever
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>>161196810
>psssh.... it was nuthin personl.. realy
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Trying to make a new ds2 build around the great lance. Anyone have ideas for what I could do? Already did a strength/faith build.
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>host is from china
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Just started dark souls 3 and this game is ridiculously hard. I am getting me ass whipped. Am I missing something?
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>>161197145
Locate roll button, level up vigor, upgrade weapons
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>>161196829

It doesn't matter. Katanas and many Straight Swords say "Slash/Thrust" because certain attacks they have count as thrust attacks (SS R2 pokes, katana running R1's).

All of Lucerne's attacks are thrust despite it being a halberd. All of a spear's attacks are thrust, even when you do a rolling R1 which look like a donk on the head it's a thrust.

If it doesn't say it does thrust then it doesn't do thrust. Standard is not thrust.
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>>161197063
>cross region play disabled
>invaded the world of Aдидac и вoдкa
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Is it worth re-installing and playing through ds2 just to play ivory king dlc? If it is, what build should I use?
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>>161196810

Well you get 1000 per ember if that helps, but ultimately you don't play invasions for reward, you play them for the joy of the experience itself. Farm for souls elsewhere, depending on your SL and how far you are through the game there are plenty of good choices, the best ones being the drakeblood knight at archdragon peak and the golden winged knights at lothric castle. You're better off equipping all of the extra soul items and farming those for supplies instead, then once you have enough supplies you go hunting for scrubs.
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>>161197316
>cross region play disabled
there are two regions: japan and not-japan
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>>161197387
>shield moans every time a pellet of rain hits it
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>>161197387
Powerstanced Bone Fists
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>>161197519
Underrated post
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Show me true fashion /dsg/
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>>161172254
incredibly laggy strayan here
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>>161197745
I liked looking like a mop
I miss nothing else form ds2
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>>161197824
We're only missing mexicans and hues now
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>>161196502
it doesn't
it LOOKS slower to you but is identical with the exception of das1's 0 equipload fastroll
it's like the ultra weapons compared to das3 - they look slower, are in reality faster
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>>161197390

Of course I'm playing invasions for the joy of killing hosts, but I need greatarrows to be able to do that. Also I'm SL35 mate, there is no place to farm souls for me.

Times are tough.
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>>161197996

You're an absolute cunt and I love you.
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>>161197964
Does it have the same travel distance? Might be covering ground more slowly even if the time to complete a roll is identical. I can't remember personally, I just figured it might be what's actually bugging him aside form how jarring the animation is.
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>>161197020
str/fai
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>>161197745
ok
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>>161197020
Do you want the Great Lance exclusively or are you open to the other lances?
Great Lance is extremely durable, but Chariot Lance is slightly more effective when you have shadow gauntlets and crest of blood equipped. Bleeding things in one 1h running attack for 900 damage never gets old. I miss the Chariot Lance so fucking much
>>161198086
That depends on your equip load. Your roll distance and stamina regen is decreased as your equip load approaches 70%. People that play at 70% are easy targets, but people that play at 10% tend to roll off cliffs.
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>>161197387
It's worth to play Blue Flame Sorcerer, the best sorcery across Souls.
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>>161197745
These two are the best I got
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>>161197745
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>>161198207
Yorshka's Spear...I wish it was better. I love how it looks and I would like to make a build for it but it's so damn bad.
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>>161198563
If I could have one thing in the next DLC I want that whole set sword included. Maybe design some pants for the robe.
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>>161197745
best armor in ds2
best armor in ds3
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>>161193813
Applicable to all games.
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>>161198153
>Already did a strength/faith build
???
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Man, I loved the heavy armour designs in ds2. I wish we could've gotten a few, or at least the Giants set. I wanted to be a giant golden/bronze warrior but dark souls 3 says no
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>>161198813
You've posted that blue knight a million times in this thread and I fucking love it, keep up the good work
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>>161199326
Yes, and?
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>bloodshade twinks at sl20

heh brepare ass hole kids
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someone on PS4 has a sage ring +1/+2 he doesn't need?
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>>161197745
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>>161193459
He has said he knows OF berserk,but he doesn't really enjoy it.It's too much sexual violence he said
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>>161198290
>Do you want the Great Lance exclusively or are you open to the other lances?
I can't remember how many other lances there are but yeah I'm open to any sort of big lance. Any other supplements besides bleed? I was thinking about magic maybe but I'm not sure.
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So, Dark Souls' are on sale on steam, and I just got me an Xbone controller.

Should I start with the first one?
Dumb question, I know, but I am a dumb person.
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>>161199284
also
nobody ever ported this mod http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls2/mods/328/? to ds3 and i have no idea how to use iGP11 to find the correct drakeblood armor textures

seems like the armor textures are the same from ds2 to ds3 but that's about all i know
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>>161199754
Go with 3, then 2, then 1
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>>161199754
Yes. Do all the games in order. They're all really good.
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>>161198058

Here's a new one just for you my man, hot off the presses.

Some high-quality bullying.
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>>161199754
They are all worth playing

First half of DS1 and the DLC is 9/10. second half is 3/10

Everything but the DLC in DS2 is bad PvE wise, 3/10 at best. the DLC which actually has a lot of content is easily the best PvE content of the series

DS3 is a 7/10 all the way through, the most consistent game but the PvP is the worst of the series
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>>161199924
Why?
>>161199949
I just found the first one for 3.59 euros, so I'm getting that and 2, and 3 will likely be on sale before I am finished with the first two.
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>>161199545
> I was thinking about magic maybe
There's Rampart Golem Lance for that. It's the most damaging lance if you keep it uninfused and slap a pale resin on it, but the durability is poor.
More suiting to countering hits than being in-your-face opportunistic with running attacks.
The lances all have the same moveset, but all have their niche.

Magic infused heavy weapons are fun. You get long uptime on buffs (seriously, magic weapon lasts 135 seconds and caps its duration at only 15 INT) and everything you get does a fuckton of damage.
Magic Zwei is a good early choice, low requirements and overall just an excellent weapon all around, even in pvp thanks to its length.
And there's always Ivory King UGS for maximum fuck.
You pair your obscene damage with hard to dodge spells like homing soul arrow, soul shower, soul vortex for a fairly versatile and strong build.
It's even viable in the DLC thanks to how buffs and high base damage work together.
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>>161187208
Can someone post this not-Yuria?
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>>161200074
Another thing does Scholar of the First Sin have all the DLC? Also why is there a "season pass" for a game that already had a sequel come out?

Sorry to post so many questions on this thread.
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>>161200058
>second half is 3/10
>Everything but the DLC in DS2 is bad PvE wise, 3/10
Dark Souls 2's pve is nowhere near as bad as Lost Izalith

>>161200258
>Another thing does Scholar of the First Sin have all the DLC?
Yes
>Also why is there a "season pass" for a game that already had a sequel come out?
It gives you all of the DLC for the base game. There's no purpose for it unless you have the base game and want the DLC without upgrading to Scholar for some reason
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>>161200117
Sounds like a plan. Thanks.
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>>161200417
Right.

I'm going to get these and then start exploring, thanks for answering my questions.
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>still playing shit souls 3
Pathetic
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>>161200058
I think the PVP of Dark Souls 3 is really good. It's not as skilled as Dark Souls 1 or Dark Souls 2, but it's more fun. And even if you don't share this opinion, the clear worst PvP of the series is Bloodborne, there's no salvaging that one.
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>>161188652
I agree
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Is there a more satisfying weapon for dumpstering bads?
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>>161198813
>>161199373
samefag nigger
your fshion sucks horse cock kys faggot
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>>161200696

RHH is pretty high tier if you ask me.
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Why does the blue eye orb not exist
Why are indictments gone when a blue faggot police ranking system was implemented
Why cant I make the sinners pay the price
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>>161200696
I would enjoy it more if it had an usable running attack. I like playing aggressive and I make a lot of use of running attacks.
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>>161200984
But now you can babysit random hosts that already got 3 phantoms ! How can you NOT like it ?
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Any good SL 40-60 twink builds that oneshot phantoms?
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>>161200681
I didnt include bloodborne in the series because their only relation is overall game structure. The games play very differently from each other and they hardly even feel alike

I dont see how you could find DS3's pvp more fun. Invasions are dead, the game favors defensive play, and is by far the spammiest of the 3 mainline souls games. The game balance is somewhat forgivable because none of the games were ever perfectly balanced but the way you have to play to be series with the game just isnt fun this time around
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>>161200984
Blues were always training wheels, now you can finally join the big leagues and face super ganks
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>>161201112
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/121043

swap a ring for priestess if there are any convenient cliffs
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>>161200681
>more fun
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>161200696
its upsetting seeing these terrible players switching to my favorite class of weapon because of its r1 hyperarmor FOTM

like the point of using greatswords is its versatility because nearly all of them have an amazing move set and then THESE FAGGOTS r1 spams and parry spams

its even more upsetting when they use the greatswords with unique weapon arts and move sets but still r1 spam
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>>161200992
The running attack can be useful sometimes since people tend to roll backwards from a spear

It's bad yeah, but it almost always does some damage against a backwards roller
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>>161201112

Depends on if you include hornet ring ripostes.

If so, then yes, there are a boatload of weapons that can one-shot.
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>>161201381
seems good my nigger
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Do backsteps go iframes?
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>>161202040
Nah, that was stupid.

They should get HA though
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>>161197745
Rate my fashion lads.
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>>161202040
Only in Dark Souls 1 (if you have the DWGR equipped) and Dark Souls 2

There are certain attacks that have i-frames though, like this
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>>161202195
I like the first one
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>You can't disable all cloth physics like in 2
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>>161202227
Does the scimitar backflip got iframes in ds3 ?
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>>161200036

Beautiful. Getting any hatemail?
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>>161202227
And this

>>161202384
I'll check
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>Be in dragon mausoleum
>Invaded by someone who's invaded me twice today
>I'm 2/2 against them
>This time they come at me with a greatsword
>Once they realize that they're going to lose they pull out a parrying dagger and start spamming
>Roll towards them to bait a whiff
>It works
>Try to punish whiff
>Get parried because whiffing a parry means nothing in DS3
>OSOK at full fucking 1000 health because hornet ring

The more I play DS3's PvP the more I hate it.
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>>161202542
Just run behind them and BS them, it's really easy and you can do it against Caestus, even easier with Parrying Dagger which is a shitty parrying tool. Also if he had time to parry again then you delayed your swing too much. Just get good Anon, instead of blaming the game.
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>60/60 INT FTH build

Did I fuck up or should I go Quality+FTH?
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>>161202542
>27 VIG at dragon mausoleum
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>>161202542
>full fucking 1000 health
hmmm
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>>161202542
>run behind someone and go for the backstab
>it gets parried
gotta love from
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>>161202227
>Only in Dark Souls 1 (if you have the DWGR equipped)
It does without DWGR as well, it's just like 1 or 2 frames. Just gro practice with Petrus
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>>161199754
Play all three, but don't play 2 completely blind like the other games, it's a hassle. At least look up how SM and agility work. Looking up softcaps for stats is honestly not a terrible idea for all the games, but don't plan your first build out in advance. Also, you're writing in ink with DS1 stats, you can't respec in that game.

Ds3 pvp is probably the most well managed and diverse, a lot of people call it the smash 4 of the series, and that's pretty accurate. Ds1 pvp has a longer learning curve, but the odds of running into someone who actually chains counterreads with you so you can actually get a volley going is pretty low, and generally pretty anticlimactic feeling when you actually do run into a good player since there ends up being little to no variety in playstyle. Sometimes people compare it to melee since it has mismanaged tech skill and more learning than Ds3, but it's pretty narrow for all the depth it has. Ds2 has memes and is great if you want to pretend to be good while playing on mid tier builds against people who are equally incompetent, but it ultimately pretty bad with upper level weapon balance and general mechanics and movement.
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>>161202542
Level vig and backstab people who parry instead of trying to poke between their attempts. If you can't do that, kick to R1.
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>>161202808
That never happens. I have had people turn around all the way to face me with their parry and my BS attempt still sucked them right in and frontstabbed them.
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>>161203014
https://youtu.be/4LUz_dQS48c?t=20s
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>>161202542
>invaded by
>you were even embered and you had 1000 max health
what the fuck kind of soul level are you playing at
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Post weaponfus
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>>161203312
best girl in every game
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>>161202770
>>161202807
>>161203241

It's a FTH character, physical stuff isn't their bag.

>>161202710
>if he had time to parry again then you delayed your swing too much

I threw out my swing as soon as I saw that his dagger was moving, it's damn well not my fault that he's able to whiff and start up another parry in the time it takes me to swing my weapon once. I'm sure latency played a role as well but that's also not something I can control.

Don't defend bad design with get good, that's ass backwards.

>>161203012
I usually fall back on the kick now since nobody falls for the jumping attacks anymore but in this instance I can't help but feel that I did exactly what I was supposed to and got boned anyways.
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>>161203210
Only backstab attempts that were going to fail because of distance to the opponent can be parried. If you did the BS correctly that never happens, and you get a frontstab instead.
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>>161202426

Not really, because of the extremely shitty Recent Player feature of the PS4 I very, very rarely get hatemail.

This is about as bad as it gets.
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>>161203393
>low SL faith builds
you have more issues than being instagibbed by a riposte
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>>161203424
>getting into backstab animation
>failed attempt
more like failed design
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how do i get good with axes?
There seems to be no hyperarmor on anything and they've got shit range, especially on r2's. greatswords seem impossible to deal with.
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>>161203393
>faith character
>have the ability to heal
>no actual health capacity
>health is just physical stuff
at least get you vig in the lower thirties or something anon
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>>161202449
>>161202384
It doesn't seem like it, it's just a pretty good hitbox, you can reliably dodge bolts with it
It has hyper armor but only once you get halfway into the animation
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FC at Pontiff Sulyvahn!
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>>161203651
Thanks lad
>>
My soul memory got way out of hand and now I can't find any summons or get summoned. I just beat the looking glass knight, I'm at 1.5 mil sm, and this shrine of amana is just way too tedious.


Are there any tricks to find summons?
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>>161203686
Where at Pontiff Sulyvahn?
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>>161203529
its required

high level DS1 pvp was a clusterfuck that revolved entirely around backstabs and avoiding backstabs
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>>161203553
With the warcry buff your normal r2's (uncharged and charged) got HA.
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>>161200036
>white just walks off
never stop posting
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>>161203926
the thing is, there were counters to the fucked up shit in das1.
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>>161204045
what's the counter to chaosblade flipmom
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>>161203926
if you listen closely you can hear the instant transmission noise
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>>161204045
Only bads can't backstab consistently in Dark Souls 3, tough luck that this time it isn't as braindead as Dark Souls 1 backstabbing (because 99% of the duels were against people that didn't know how to counter all the bullshit BS techniques so you just trampled them)
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>>161204137
parry
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>>161204183
>Parry a counter to anything

Shitter detected.
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>>161203526
>low SL

He's around level 100 right now, but most of his points are in STR, FTH, ATT, and luck.

>>161203650
I plan to level vigor later but I've been leveling DEX to use the Lothric knight greatsword since I wanted a lightning weapon. I also need the casting speed since I eventually want to get rid of the sage ring.
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>>161204167
>lock player into a punish animation
>blame the player
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playing through dark souls 1 with a friend, he's finding messages and such but I'm stuck at 0 nodes, anyway to fix this?
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>>161204183
no
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>>161204264
>>161204394
git gud seriously
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>>161204283
>and luck
For what purpose
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>>161204045
Why are people here under the impression that everyone else doesn't already know that? There's a counter to everything in rock paper scissors, but that alone doesn't mean it has great mechanics.

>>161204137
>inb4 chaosblade flipmom
it was better than pretty much everything else, but I wouldn't say it hard-countered everything. You could still put other builds to use against it, you were just at a disadvantage; it wasn't a paper vs scissors situation unless you build was just horrible or you were midrolling (which essentially means your build was horrible). As far as builds go I'd rather complain about dark bead mage tanks. Yeah, chainmom was a better build, but few things were as fun killing as dealing with some dark bead spamming asshole who thinks he's a touhou character.
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>>161204045
there really, really wasnt. If you were invested into the DS1 meta post GWGR nerf your play revolved entirely around backstabs. This on top of dex being king post casting speed change made the only 'competitive' build for the SL 125 meta 40 dex, 30 int or faith for your weapon buff of choice, and the dark magic that did full damage without stat investment.

The balance in DS 1 was honestly the worst of the series if you look at it objectively. Its pvp was still better than what we have today in 3 though because of how little rolls cost and how much lower the powerlevel of your character is compared to 1 and 2 but both DaS 2 and now 3 have much more variety when it comes to viability than 1 did
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>>161199754
Start with the first one,then third,then second.It goes from gradually amazing to good to alright
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>>161204384
There's a mod on PC, otherwise you'll have to put your signs down and wait. Dark Souls 1's online functionality sucks so you might be waiting for a while, but once you find each other you ought to be fine.

>>161204521
Bleed. Can't be a proper cleric without bleed. I'm considering respeccing that away though since I started using lightning once I got access to it.
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>>161204475
Only bad players think that parrying is a counter to anything. They would go "just parry it" when encountering things like Estoc Turtle, etc. Sorry you're so new that I had to spell it out for you.
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Guys, listen. I found out how to get Mask of the Mother in DaS3.
Get Yuria's mask and make her a mother
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>Yuria uses a ghostly bladed katana which is the death of over a 100 men that originally belonged to Nito and nothing can defend from it

>Friede uses a magic long scythe along with a staff that produces an illusory blade that can conjure exploding frost and blackflame

What's an edgy enough weapon for Liliane?
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>>161205140
Do not bully Maria she is a cute and good girl
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>>161204598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmecGNstuf8

heres a video explaining exactly what im talking about, this is all that high level pvp was. Your success in pvp was dependent entirely on how well you maneuvered using and avoiding advanced backstab techniques. Two skilled players didnt even look like they were fighting during a duel, it was more two people dancing around each other unlocked waiting for one person to take a wrong step. In a way it was pretty damn skillful but it was objectively a massive load of shit
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>>161205140
She will probably have a chime or catalyst made out of something edgy, like the ashes of hollows.
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>>161204598
>not 45 dex
aaaanonnnnnnnn

>weapon buff instead of black flame
>when our lord and savior the chaos bladeru isn't even buffable
aaaaaaaaaaannoooooonnnnnnnnnnn

>The balance in DS 1 was honestly the worst of the series if you look at it objectively.
>if you look at it objectively
I think it would be better to say "if you look at it in terms of design" or "deliberation," considering how uncontrolled and unfinished it was, but 2 edges pretty close considering most of their solutions to 1's problems backfired (goofy backstab mechanics, attempting to fix feet animations by pinning each foot only makes walking look worse, etc).

> Its pvp was still better than what we have today in 3 though because of how little rolls cost
I get that the whole infinite stamina thing is pretty bad, but just straight up lowering the number of rolls you get would make weapons like CCS become super ultra absurdly powerful. To actually escape someone who's hit you twice with a CCS, you need to use two actual rolls or they'll be able to walk up and slap you for another stunlock. In 1 you never needed to do that and typically had offensive options open after rolling away just once.
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>>161205223
Puffy.
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>>161203987

Freshly made as well, this one's just for you my man.

It's 5:24, so now I'm off to bed. Good night.
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Hey remember that time Friede wore Yuria's clothes and spammed Deep Soul at you while 2 invaders ran you down with straight swords?
Me too, good times right?
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>>161205337
>45 dex instead of vit gouging
>chaos blade instead of DMB washingpole or even just uchi
Its like you want to get meta'd
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>>161203454
>the extremely shitty Recent Player feature of the PS4
wtf happened? I remember the PS3 recent player list refreshing instantly while PS4's takes a good 15 minutes
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>>161205473
>the difference between vitgouging and not vitgouging is 5 points
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>>161204764
>he doesnt know how to get through a shield
lmao stop

>>161204598
>the only 'competitive' build for the SL 125 meta 40 dex, 30 int or faith for your weapon buff of choice
and this isnt the meta for das3? hello?
>and the dark magic that did full damage without stat investment.
good thing that dark magic is easy to avoid outside of laggy connections
>The balance in DS 1 was honestly the worst of the series if you look at it objectively. Its pvp was still better than what we have today in 3 though
you just contradicted yourself
>but both DaS 2 and now 3 have much more variety when it comes to viability than 1 did
in what way? the meta pool for das2 was pretty much chaos blade, warped sword, and ice rapier and the meta pool for das3(from my understanding) is washing pole, carthus, and flame spear. how is this more diverse than having claymore, chaos blade, gold tracer, estoc, furysword, and murakumo in the meta?
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>>161205337
>weapon buff instead of black flame
there was nothing preventing you from doing both, black flame required literally no stat investment
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>>161205473
>DMB washingpole
go to sleep, d_invader
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Playing through Bloodborne for the first time and having a lot of fun but farming for blood vials is cancer. What's the best place to farm for vials or blood echoes early on?
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>>161203312
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>>161205494

I dunno.

It used to be the case that it took 45 (FOURTY-FIVE) minutes for the list to update. Since a system update like half a year ago it now only takes about 10 minutes of it to update, but a new problem is that half of the time the profiles still won't load when you click on them.

This basically causes almost no one to send hatemail compared to the Souls games on PS3 & Xbox 360.
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>>161205770
just buy them,you can get like 50 or 60 for
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>>161205605
>>he doesnt know how to get through a shield
>lmao stop
he never said or implied that he didn't, he just said that parrying wasn't the answer, which it isn't

>>161205473
I can still hit 62 vit on a 37 poise chainmom using favor and DWGR with chaos blade and small leather, you can do both and just run away from buffers

http://mmdks.com/8gbu

>>161205623
point taken I guess
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>>161205605
>and this isnt the meta for das3?
not even close, buffs are far worse in DaS3 mostly due to how split damage is calculated. 40/40 strength dex is disputably the DaS3 meta
>good thing that dark magic is easy to avoid outside of laggy connections
that doesnt change that they required NO stat investment and were useful for surprise change ups and guardbreaks via black flame. there was literally no reason NOT to use them on any build
>you just contradicted yourself
no, just be cause something is balanced doesnt mean its good. DaS 3 has far more viable weapons than 1 but the pvp has a lot less depth and the power level of your character is a lot lower. I would take 95% of players using the exact same build and the same 4 weapons than there being a total of 15 viable weapons that all have useless R2's and require a refined build to do any damage
>the meta pool for das2 was pretty much chaos blade, warped sword, and ice rapier
halberd, fume ultra greatsword, just regular longsword, and washing pole were all S tier and the warped sword was only good when powerstanced in the offhand, it had shit for damage and only was used for the poise damage.


>>161205579
due to 75% of your damage coming from a buff there was no point in not dumping everything into vit after softcap dex, 30 in magic, and enough end to stay below 50% for GWGR
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>>161203553
perfectly time your 2handed r1s. you can outrange ultra swords and spears if you do it PERFECTLY
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>>161206220
I actually did notice that after I posted that, you seem to take a step forward on the first r1. I really don't think it'll get someone who can competently use spacing though.
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>>161205873
clearing an area*
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So what's the verdict on this piece of shit? I've heard mixed reviews. Is it a useful zoning spell or not even worth the time to pick up?
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>>161206189
base dex black flame was worthless
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>>161206503
it fires 3 times slowly in a straight line and does as much damage as you would expect From to give a gimmicky spell
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>>161206503
Even if you were somehow good enough at five dimensional chess to get your opponent to actually roll in to one of the projectiles it'd still do less damage than a longsword R1.
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>>161206341
Also millwood axe with 66 str gets like 600 ar
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Man the 3v3 matches are hot garbage
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Is the Onyx Blade overpowered? I've only just started using greatswords with it, and after a couple of embarrassing parries, I'm cleaning house with it.
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>>161206661
It's an exceptionally strong weapon but probably not overpowered. It's no Washing Pole or pre-nerf CCS/Saber.
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>>161206661
if you are already a pyromancer then sorta but if you just want to wield it, its not gonna make a gs user any better
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>>161206540
No it wasnt, the casting speed difference was only 2-3 frames from base to max dex, it was certainly better but it wasnt useless by any means. Also you were literally never at base dex because dex builds were all that was ever seriously viable after they stapled casting speed onto the stat when it was already dominate over strength. \
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>>161206661
it's really good, but not unfair

two 1hr1s followed by a black flame can be a really great catch if people try to hug you
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>>161206736
I don't even use pyromancies. I picked it up because I rearranged my stats to see how much of a buff the sunless talisman gives with dark miracles, got invaded a bunch, and destroyed people. I feel like it's because I fought for a really long time using SS 1 and 2 handed movesets and unlocked play, and it's basically the same but only slightly slower and with poise and huge reach.
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>>161203312
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>>161206782
>max dex
I meant 40 dex
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>>161206625
>howitfeelstochewfivegum.jpg
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>>161206571
>>161206638
So completely worthless then? Oh well. I was hoping it would be as annoying as the NPC spell from the Demon Ruins but I guess if we couldn't have Crystal Sage-grade Crystal Hail we weren't going to get that either.
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>>161206503
I like to throw one in the air and heal under it and that's been fairly effective at keeping me safe, I'd imagine that won't work for long as people get less nervous about the spell.
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>>161206969
it was more than "2-3 frames" and the cap for casting speed was 45 dex
you don't know what you're talking about
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>>161206915
i fought around 30 duels using a 39int39fai with the sword, averaged about 630 damage per 2 swing combos. When I was doin a mgls build with 50 int i was doin 610~ damage. The pokes and the long range is ok, but the ar is average imo.

On another note, i was looking up a list of high ar weapons for low levels, I noticed the demons fist has some pretty good ar for its size at base requirements. Would this be any good for low level shittery?
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>>161206625
>That bow between lightning pine bundle and homward bone
What bow is that
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What should I use to cosplay Allant? Thinking Twin Princes greatsword and dark hand, with a fire witch top and painting guardian legs. Any additional things?
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>>161206625
>gold tracer and silver tracer

Give it to us already from
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>>161207262
I find it hard to believe that you PvPd in DaS 1 at all if you think that 45 dex was worth it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHfPcu_B0nQ

compare 40 and 45. The difference is almost non existent. you were always much better off just taking the extra 100 health
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>>161207371
If you want super low level shenanigans the Dark Hand is actually one of the strongest options.
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>>161207481
you mean in the foeground? I think it was supposed to be lothric's bow or something. Might be wrong.
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>>161207481
dancer's short bow

cut content, along with the sacred beast catalyst (big tree thing that shoots skulls), gold tracer / silver tracer, silver knight straight sword, dragon king greataxe, scythe of want, lothric's scythe, and many more
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>>161206189
>40/40 strength dex is disputably the DaS3 meta
are you kidding? almost every 1v1 starts with a buff(usually dmb), just like it did in das2(dark weapon). also, the same build applies in das1 too since buffs werent really neccesary since hornet ring was so strong and black flame was strong enough to skip wotg.
>useful for surprise change ups and guardbreaks via black flame.
>black flame
>dark magic
black flame was pyromancy, not dark magic(dark bead, pursuers). regardless, you needed dex to make the black flames come out fast enough to actually catch anyone
>DaS 3 has far more viable weapons than 1
not really when you consider how many weapons in das3 are just flat out outclassed by weapons in the same class(much like in das2). so many weapons have similar movesets that you're pretty much lead into an objectively best weapon by way of stats. this was less of a problem in das1
>halberd, fume ultra greatsword, just regular longsword, and washing pole were all S tier
halberd and washing pole werent needed since ice rapier was so long, so powerful, and so quick. i dont think fugs was ever meta since ugs is easy to dodge and poise can be broken easily in das2 despite hyperarmor. i'll give you longsword though because that was good at roll catching
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>>161207590
im most likely going to have 18str 14dex to use the dragonslayers and avelyn. Trying to decide if investing 2 more is gonna be worth it on account of my abilty to land the weapon art off an r1.
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>>161207586
You can only combo kick into combustion pyros at 45 dex.

>>161207672
Black Flame was split fire and physical damage, like how dark magic was magic and physical. It's dark magic enough
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>>161207481
It's the Dancer's Short Bow, a piece of cut content.

>Bow born from the soul of the Dancer of the Frigid Valley.

>Created using a tough Frigid Valley alloy, this bow is astonishingly flexibile, capable of firing powerful arrows.
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>>161207586
It's visibly different even in that video, and you were typically only getting around 60 extra health if you'd already dumped a bunch into vig. On top of that, it affected different spells in different amounts.
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>>161207635
Why couldn't we have gotten the SK weapons? Silver knights are in the game. Their armor is in the game. They hold their weapons and the files are in the game.
What about the tree? The Elder Ghru use it- it's not like it was cut because the enemy that would have dropped it or explained its presence was also cut.
God damn it, fromsoft.
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>>161207753
>You can only combo kick into combustion pyros at 45 dex.
not him, but you really couldn't do that at 40?

>>161207754
>probably was a shortbow that could fire greatarrows
dear lord
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>>161207672
FUGS was super meta at high levels of skill
Its ability to deflect almost all attacks while blocking 2h combined with block canceling denied the fast small weapon meta completely
You could even block and deflect attacks while rolling
700 AR, extreme length that lets its 2hr2 roll catch low equip load rollers, it was top tier
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>>161207753
actual dark magic was literally magic(as in you needed to invest in int). so as far as stat investment goes, it was different.
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>>161207672
>almost every 1v1 starts with a buff(usually dmb), just like it did in das2(dark weapon). also, the same build applies in das1 too since buffs werent really neccesary since hornet ring was so strong and black flame was strong enough to skip wotg
what fucking SL meta are you playing at? at SL 120 75% of weapon buffs are resins and the other 25% are lightning blade or carthus flame arc. I know for SURE that you didnt play dark souls 1 pvp now, buffs were king all the way until the end

>regardless, you needed dex to make the black flames come out fast enough to actually catch anyone
which you would already have. The casting speed increase was substantial but it wasnt the be all end all. regardless every build was dex so this is a non issue

>halberd and washing pole werent needed since ice rapier was so long, so powerful, and so quick. i dont think fugs was ever meta since ugs is easy to dodge and poise can be broken easily in das2 despite hyperarmor. i'll give you longsword though because that was good at roll catching
so you didnt play dark souls 2 either then or came in at the very end with the DLC release, either way you didnt play long. FUGs was the best strength weapon in the game bar none and the washing pole was tier 1 up until the end. Hell even the longsword was more dominate during the robflyn meta than the ice rapier
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>Doing Arena duels
>Curse players when low health
Easy wins
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>>161207882
you couldn't, that's why dexpyro was so popular
a base stats black flame was basically a rollbs for your opponent
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>>161208039
You're never gonna git gud that way
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>>161207672
>almost every 1v1 starts with a buff(usually dmb)
did you buy the game on friday? it sounds like you've never played it

>black flame was pyromancy, not dark magic
dark pyromancies are dark magic

>dark bead, pursuers
the term you're thinking of is "dark sorcceries," or prehaps "hexes"; miracles and pyromancies are still magic

>>DaS 3 has far more viable weapons than 1
>not really when you consider how many weapons in das3 are just flat out outclassed by weapons in the same class
that makes no impact on what he said
even if there were a shitload of terrible weapons in ds3, adding terrible weapons doesn't lower the amount of good ones
on top of that, plenty of weapons straight up outclassed other weapons in their class in 1 as well
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>>161208208
huh, always played at 45, never knew 40's didn't have the kick to bf option on me
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>>161207767
did you even watch the video? the difference is almost non existent, and that is for a spell with a significantly longer cast time than black flame so the difference is more greatly exagerated

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/vitality
you didnt see major health falloff until after 50 vit. this is why you stopped at 40 dex, you got just enough stats for your weapon buff and maybe a wotg and then dumped into vit after you had enough end to remain below 50% equip load for DWGR.

If you wanted to stay at the SL 125 meta you ended up dropping 80-150 health depending on how much end your armor of choice needed for sub 50% if you wanted to go to 45 dex, the negligible damage and casting speed just wasnt worth losing almost 10% of your health
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>>161207753
>You can only combo kick into combustion pyros at 45 dex.
what? yes you could. hell you could do it at even lower dex. Im not even just talking out of my ass here. I played a shitload of DaS 1 and I distinctly remember this very thing
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>>161207672
>almost every 1v1 starts with a buff(usually dmb)
what?
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>>161208562
>until after 50 vit
good thing you can get to 62 with 45 dex

http://mmdks.com/8gbu
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>>161208657
>>161207753
black flame and greater comb were slightly different, I cant remember which one but one of them was usable at lower dex levels because I remember tossing it into one of my zweid builds. I dont remember hwich one though
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>>161208031
>what fucking SL meta are you playing at?
sl125. im telling you what i see. i dont know what you want me to tell you.
>regardless every build was dex so this is a non issue
fair enough
>FUGs was the best strength weapon in the game
and full str was a fucking joke since you can just dodge it and bs punish the whiffs just like every other darks souls ever.
>and the washing pole was tier 1 up until the end
ice rapier still outclassed it which is why it was more common.

>>161208332
>did you buy the game on friday?
i've had it since release on pc.
>dark pyromancies are dark magic
yes, but he said dark magic as a whole and not just black flame when he made his point. dark magic was mostly shit.
>that makes no impact on what he said
it does since not every weapon class is good so that lowers the number of good weapons, and then only one or two weapons in a weapon class is useful so the good weapons pool gets even small which is why there is such a small meta variety in das3 today.
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>>161208838
your giving up a weapon buff and therefore half your damage. you would be bodied by an equally skilled player using a dmb balder side sword or washing pole
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>>161209023
nobody buffed in das1
and kiting wasn't an issue because spacing wasn't dogshit like in das2/3
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>>161209023
>it does since not every weapon class is good
Ds3 has more good weapon classes than 1

>>161209023
>weapon buff
>half your damage
no, I'm giving up an opportunity to let my opponent waltz around for 60 seconds while I make an ass out of myself for using a weapon buff and/or >BSS
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>>161209174
>nobody buffed in das1
now that's a stretch
I wholeheartely agree that CB > DMB Uchi, but to say people actually didn't buff isn't accurate, oro cosplays and things of the like were easy as fuck to come by
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>>161209330
>oro cosplays
used by scrubs, I bet you think people seriously used base dex black flame because of all those idiots running giantdads
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>>161209174
>nobody buffed in das1
what the fuck. DMB was in literally 80% of builds I faced at SL 125. shitloads of people outright copied oros setup because of how busted it was. there was no reason NOT to use it after the meta switched from flippy havels

Do you not remember that the game was called R1 souls from 2013 until DaS 2 release?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLsLb-tK8A
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>>161203312
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>>161209330
as someone who played way too much pvp in fiteclubs, i can say most people buffed with resins if that, then occasionally some faith users cast dmb since they already have 40 or however much faith for wog, but it wasnt worth it against anyone who had 16 str. YOu could much too easily hard swap between the wooden greatshield, sks or bks and use an estoc while their buff runs out
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>>161209498
Yes, I do. Lots of scrubs "seriously" made bad decisions. There are most likely people on this board, right now, who will say that the giantdad build was good.
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>>161209243
have fun waltzing around waiting for his buff timing while a DMB washing pole is spamming running attack at you every 5 seconds
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Playing a strength build in DS2 and have Strength at 50. I hear that's the softcap. Should I just dump everything else into Vigor and Endurance?
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>>161209554
FCs were different because the limited spell usages and the lack of restore consumables like in DS2. you literally couldnt afford to use something like DMB in consecutive fights
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Who was in the wrong here?
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>>161209841
id argue you get more use out of a buff in a fc since theres no risk of host running away shenanigans
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>>161210371
instead he'll just kite you with the approriate shield and DWGR
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>>161209662
>while a DMB washing pole is spamming running attack at you every 5 seconds
not a big deal if I don't plan to attack back
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is there a single fucking good reason why the phantom fog wall bug still exists? why are they making paid dlc while this still happens?
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Are there any mods or tweaks to make King's Field 2 (KF1 in the US) to make the game faster?
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Can someone give me tips on fighting the ruin sentinels?
i keep on getting absolutely demolished by them, and there doesn't seem to be any where else to progress in the game
i'll usually kill the first one on the ledge, but when i drop down to fight the other two, it's overwhelming. There's no safe place to heal after all the pillars are destroyed
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>>161211589
Use Strike attacks
Play it like Ornstein and Smough
Only attack once at a time.
I ahve character that is somewhere around that part, i could help you out?
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>>161211589
Stay away from the walls when you drop down. You'll get cornered and killed. Try to stay in the middle with both of them in front of you. When you have the opening hit one of them once then go back to dodging for an opening. Greed will kill you fast in that fight. If you're using a shield try not to take too many consecutive hits because they'll guard break you and fuck you up before you can recover.
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>>161211589
Wait for the second one to jump up to the ledge instead of meeting both of them on the ground floor at the same time. You should be able to do about 1/4 or 1/2 of the second one's health if you're lucky. Also, Pilgrim Bellclaire can carry you through the fight if you're really desperate
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>>161211589
Pilgrim Bellclaire is pretty great in that fight, so don't be afraid to summon if you're having trouble. The sentinels also have weird AI and it can take them quite a bit of time to jump up or down from the initial platform, so try to abuse that and maximize the time spent fighting as few as possible.
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>>161211540
Nope. Gotta deal with silky smooth 30 fps and lower

KF3 seems to run better. ditto to Shadow Tower.

iirc the first KF game had framedrops out the ass and its levels were all tiny fucking corridors, no big outdoor levels like 2 and 3 have
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>>161211589
walk behind them and hit R1 with craftsman after they do an attack. Use the drangleic shield for easy mode.
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>>161211764
>>161211775
>>161211897
>>161212207
Thanks. I'll keep on trying.
i also haven't been using a shield this entire time. I'll give it a spin.

>>161211732
Thanks for the offer, but I don't really want to summon on a first playthrough. Feels too cheap
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This doesn't fucking go anywhere.
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>>161212396
Shields are a great help but don't it become a crutch.
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>>161212564
It's a bridge from that side of the Undead Settlement that leads to where the ramparts of Anor Londo used to be.
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>>161182036
I miss when this thread was just DeS.
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>>161213102
There was no /vg/ back then newfag
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>>161213304
>implying /dsg/ is only as old as /vg/
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Did From ever issue an apology for their horrid camera angles during King of Storm phase? Took down NK first try but the dragon cam was so horrid took me 4 tries by basically remembering when he did what since I can't see what's happening
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whats the best starting class in ds2 for a quality build? i remember hearing bandit saves the most points but this game doesnt go off of sl so what would cost the least soul wise to go quality? knight?
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What's a good 4th ring for a 40/40 int/fth pyromancer?
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>>161214309
>this game doesnt go off of sl
What does that even mean?
If you're not going to do magic bandit is always the best.
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Just picked up 3, having issues with iframe timing and hitboxes, especially vs large enemies and/or weapons. It doesn't feel as bad as DaS2, but the windows still seems less consistent than 1. I think the relatively fluidity of the animations is throwing me off somewhat, but is it just a matter of getting used to it or are there new mechanics at work?
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>>161214427
RoFap, chloranthy or life, as always.
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>>161214505
the game doesnt go off of soul level, it goes off of soul memory therefore points arent wasted the same way as in ds1. Lets just say for example one class has 10 in everything, and another has 12 in everything. the class with 12s is obviously going to be higher leveled but if you can start with either of them, they will both start with a soul memory of 0 making the class with more points better.
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is quakestone hammer viable?
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>>161215485
>it's a great hammer
What do you think?
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>>161215485
If you build for invasions.
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>>161215485
>great hammer
by default, no.
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patch notes where?
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>>161213304
There used to be a "general" thread on /v/ always up. It's one of the reasons /vg/ was created.
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>>161215485
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How do we end /dsg/?
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>>161216451
Bloodborne 2
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>Moaning shield doesn't actually moan when you use it
I wish I had known that before getting the strength to use it.
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>>161215485
Literally every weapon that isn't a joke weapon is viable. It's not an achievement, but I got gold in the arena using the great mace unenchanted, which is just about the worst greathammer.

Just use what you like. Its weapon art is decent and the damage on it is good for a greathammer. I just don't like the way it looks. It's just a rock on a stick. Wish it was an actual hammer for once.
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>>161216157
but only shitters walk into the wa
i am curious about your build, can you post it?
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>>161216586
>Doesnt moan when it gets hit like the Throne Watcher Shield rings
What the fuck was the point then?
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>all the miracles that are worth using by a melee build take up 2 attunement slots
Why?
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>>161216586
what are you talking about? the weapon art does moan
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4 man brawl on pc? need three replies to this post
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>>161217307
My pc fucked up and it's running chkdsk for 20+ hours. Can't play
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Why did str/faith builds get so fucked in DS3?

Almost every good quality build weapon can be enchanted and infused. Even the fucking lothric knight UGS can be enchanted and infused, even though it already has lightning damage on it, and not just a little either.

Meanwhile, most greathammers just randomly cannot be enchanted. Smoughs Hammer? No. Mornes Hammer? No. Vordts? No. Quakestone? No. And the other hammers are barely worth using because of their stats. What the fuck is the deal? Would it really be so strong? There's no way.

The worst offender is Morne's Hammer. Get 30 faith to use it, but can't enchant it.
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>>161217340
On startup? You can mash buttons to skip that.
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>>161217374
STR/FAI has always been shit fampai
Except maybe in DeS
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>>161217480
>DaS2
>RoBSOFlynn estoc or bandit axe
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>>161217480
Except it was rather very viable in DS2 and still fun in Dark Souls, too.
Miracles were actually good in those games, that probably has a lot to do with it, too.

In DS3 there's just no reason to ever use a miracle over just drinking an estus flask or swinging your hammer again. You can at most use sacred oath to boost your damage a wee tiny bit, and tears of denial is also useful. But both of those use 2 attunement slots and overwrite eachother so tough luck nigger, you only get to use one
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How good are dual Kats in ds2?
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>>161217403
No, the secondary HD was slow and hanging so I had to do it manually. Seems like there are lots of bad sectors
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>>161217712
You are better just using a chaos blade like everyone else does
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>>161217609
>bandit axe
>estoc
>str weapons
>seriously thinking that a stat allocation is what matters, not range and swing speed
Not true unless you want them to complement your playstyle with an actual str weapon.
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>>161217908
I'm using the Uchigatana so far and am about to farm for the Blacksteel Katana.
Can't say i'm a huge fan of it though, its moveset is rather boring and doesn't feel very practical. Its problem is that your character r1 swings the weapon in diagonal arc that can miss smaller targets easily, good luck trying to hit crystal Lizards with that shit.
its saving grace is that its 1h r2 thrust attacks reaches very far
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>>161217942
Well, then robsoflynn with lightning resin King's UGS right hand and lighting weapon estoc or bandit axe left hand.
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>>161218284
Acceptable as a strength build provided you're using the offhand to rollcatch, not as a source of damage
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>>161217712
obscene counter damage but somewhat hard to use

the L2 is pretty good
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>>161218353
>>161218284
>>161217942
I used to kill the meta shitters using bandit axes by powerstancing bandit greataxes.

You people have to realize that all this shit about the weapon being perfect only matters in theory. In reality, you're gonna fuck up and die as soon as the other person doesn't play exactly like you expect him to
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>>161218353
Nah, DaS2 rolls are slow enough to rollcatch with king's UGS. Light offhand is for making people scared to get up close in your face so they would panic roll in the first place. And for punishing backsteps. Fuck DaS2 backsteps.
>>161218554
If you was fighting scrubs, maybe. But then, what do metashitters know about skill?
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>>161218637
I think DaS2 had the most balanced defense/evasion mechanics. you couldn't spam roll like a retard, back steps were actually useful, and greatshields were effective shields, with the shield bash being god tier at stop backstabbers
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>>161218637
>If you was fighting scrubs, maybe. But then, what do metashitters know about skill?
It was in the arena and I eventually got the glowy red form using the build.

Don't get me wrong, it's definitely not a very good build. And I'm definitely not an insanely good player. I would often stream snipe meta shitters though.

The point I'm trying to make is that most weapons are viable just by virtue of other people not knowing how to deal with them. Even if they are good players, it's gonna throw them off and they mostly won't bother to adjust to it because they already know they wont face the strat often.

My only other build I got the glowy red form with was sanctum mace str/faith, by the way. I'd sprint into them until they panicrolled (or didn't), then sprint attack them to the ground and cast heavenly thunder while they were getting up. while swinging at them. Eventually they were poisoned and I'd just sprint them down while they're trying to munch a blossom.
This worked on pretty much everyone because it's just such a stupid gimmicky way of playing that nobody knew it and nobody knew how to react to it.
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>>161218637
I wasn't big into ds2 PvP and I don't like telling people what they should and should not do. It just annoys that people claim stat allocation to be what matters instead of playstyle and how muh 40/40 is better at almost all times in ds3
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Would you say prisoner's chain is worth it to use in every build given that the ring spot is open?

I mean, it's essentially 15 free levels at the cost of 10% increased damage taken.

Is it stupid or a good idea to get that ring, then spend the 15 free levels on vigor for more HP? Would the HP gained balance out the 10% increased damage taken? I'm curious if anybody tested this.

If I think about it, the 15 vigor should be heavily overpowering the 10% damage taken. Using unembered HP values:
>If I take the 15 free levels to go from base vigor (knight) to 27 vigor (a softcap), my HP increases by like 100%.
>Going from 27 vigor to 42 vigor using the 15 free knights, HP increases from 1050 to 1299. So about 30%.

I'm aware that 10% hp doesn't equal to 10% overall damage taken. Effective HP and all that theorycrafting shit. But it seems like the HP gained from doing this wins over the 10% increased damage taken so heavily it doesn't even matter.

Am I highly retarded and making a huge thinking error, or is the prisoners chain always 100% worth it if you can fit it? And that's assuming you use the points for vigor, which isn't required, but just the thought I had.
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>>161218731
>back steps were actually useful
They are fine in a fight between fast weapons, but the problem is, they make ultra weapon only builds unviable. With something like a longsword or a warped sword you can backstep ultra weapon swing on reaction and immediately punish it with running attack and there is nothing ultra weapon user can do about it.
>>161218916
I've got red glow on 7 builds, one of which was pure caster and another one fatrolled while 2h zwei. However, on a rare occasion that i fought someone who actually knew his shit i couldn't do anything. Not while massively handicapped like that.
Bandit greataxe is just too short. if opponent keeps his range, you can't really do anything. But most people just mindlessly spam running attack mindlessly and it's pretty easy to trade with them.
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>>161219420
No, it's fucking god-tier at lower levels but that's because the vitality levels it gives you completely negate the defense penalty it gives you. Diminishing returns on vitality and vigor, not to mention endurance being worthless beyond 40, make it less of a good option at levels past about 60-80.
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>>161218916
>My only other build I got the glowy red form with was sanctum mace str/faith, by the way. I'd sprint into them until they panicrolled (or didn't), then sprint attack them to the ground and cast heavenly thunder while they were getting up. while swinging at them. Eventually they were poisoned and I'd just sprint them down while they're trying to munch a blossom.
Also that one isn't at all a bad build. With DaS2 netcode, if you do that stupid spinning in place like all meta shitters do, attacks would come out before attack animation on their screen, and with that running attack it's really really powerful. heavenly thunder is also a great wake up tool, only bested by outcry.
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any good streamers on? im pretty bored
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>>161219545
What makes the level you use it at relevant?

Every build at every level needs vitality, vigor, and endurance, right?
So you can always leave those at 5 points lower than you otherwise would and reallocate the points elsewhere. The 15 free points ALWAYS make up for the 10% more damage unless you are insanely heavy into vigor anyways, correct?
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>>161219734
>open stream
>dark sword r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1
>close stream
every time
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>>161220134
Dark sword is a curiosity in today's meta
Still boring as shit though
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Have any of you kept your very first save on DS1?

I went back to it for the first time in years, it was kind of sad just going through all of my shit, back when I was full blown casul
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>>161220258
nah, it still top
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>>161220284
>current year
>still playing ds1
Tried going back to ds1 after ds3 and bb, holy shit that game is clunky as fuck
some memories are best left memories, anon
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What are some ways (besides ashen flasks obviously) to keep generating FP, or alternatively increasing the FP bars size, that don't require huge stat investments in attunement?

Trying to make a str/faith build that can throw out more than 2 sunlight spears at a time.

The only thing I can think of is keeping a simple infused something in the offhand. What else is there? Any rings or other pieces of equipment that will help?
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>>161220284
I deleted it for space before I realized I could jsut have multiple save files.

Doesn't matter though because it was also the save file I tested out CE powers on so it was level 713 anyway. I think I was in about NG+3 before I fucked it up.

Still remember my build, though. 27/40 Elite Knight shitter with my long time weaponfu the Claymore+15.
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>>161220406
Yeah agreed, it's still fun to play through again every now and again

Not to mention it still gives me that incredibly comfy feeling, which is nice.
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>>161220406
I don't think it's clunky at all. The only thing that aged a lot are the animations themselves, but even those have a certain style to them that keeps them from being too shitty.
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>>161219734
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv283231622
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>>161197020
Use the great lance along with a straight sword on your other hand, it does wonder
Go quality I guess
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n-new thread?

>>161215485

Viable enough to win duel and team gold with it, what else do you need?
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NEW THREAD NEW THREAD NEW THREAD WHEN
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>>161222053
ded gaem
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>>161222081
ded gemu ded thredu ded generalu
kissu
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>>161222081
t.pcuck
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>>161222257
You really like this picture huh
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DEAD GAME NIGGERS
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>>161220470
Executioners greatsword restores fp on kill and aldritches sapphire restores some on criticals attacks. Offhand handmaiden dagger can restore fp with every hit.
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>>161222757
>>161222757

New Bread.

>>161222757
>>161222757
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>>161195290
He's not a writer for the game lol, he was just involved in making guides for DS2 and BB.
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>>161216857
You have to do it when they've already committed to an attack
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