/brg/ Battlerite general

hi daniel

dead fucking game lmao

Hi daniel

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the feeling of poloma

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DED

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>imaginary numbers are not satisfying enough
>game dies
who would have thought

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is there some way i can change the interupt key to Escape? everytime i try it just closes the window

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>>161148842

>verosk dropped the game untill f2p
what pushed him?

DED

>>161151451
>verosk dropped the game
Who

>not expected and reversible edition
kys OP

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What race is she?

>>161157203
A race I'd like to fuck.

>>161157203
Looks like >>161151241

>this game will never ever be alive
don't even know why i still bother

>>161158267
Hopefully the EA launch hype inspired some suits or indie devs to jump on this game concept. I don't want to have to wait for SLS' 4th attempt.

>>161158850
But anon,fifth try is the charm!

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>>161148625
we can do it. this game will NOT die.

So why the fuck does Ashka have 2 escapes?

>>161164359
It's like asking why the fuck does ruh kaan have 3 escape/chace abilities

>>161160882
I wonder how many people will play it the first week it goes f2p.

I just hope they actually advertise this shit.

How do you build pearl? Also is there a website you can use as a calculator of sorts for Battlerites

>>161166224
I just go full silence. Sometimes I also grab the bubble counter.

What if pearl could put her counter on allies?

>>161166751
That sounds absurdly strong
You'd be able to chain a lot of CDs on melee characters using that, including a way to save them from stuns/incaps/roots when bubble shield and their defensives are down
It sounds neat, but I'm pretty sure it would break certain characters that can pair well with her

>>161167581
I was thinking maybe making it a Battlerite for round 1 or something to balance it out.

>>161167749
Woulnd't that make her too strong? she would have both a shield and a counter for anyone.
I like the idea but I'm not sure if she should have it.

I would like it on thorn when he comes out.

What if jade had 12 shots?

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>>161167749
Wouldn't really balance it out, it would just then be an autopick and lead to the same problems other battlerites have, in that they're all min/maxed instead of situational.

As strong as the ability to recharge your weapon every space is, this would be picked 100% of the time over that. Giving a support the ability to transfer their own survivability to their teammates is also going to be extremely strong, and this would be no different. You'd be able to chain so many defensives while Pearl stays safe that you'd have to focus her instead, which is what Pearl wants you to do in the first place.

All right /brg/ lets think of some Creative Battlerites for champions I'll start.
>Jade
Round 4 Battlerite- using stealth will apply stealth to others allies around her

>>161170128
>Tailwind
Using Taya spaces leaves behind a trail of wind for 4 seconds that allows taya to use enchanted boomerangs but only on the tail

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>>161170128
Fixing Oldur's T3 battlerites

Shared Fate is niche but has some use, could potentially make the explosion radius a little bigger. Hard to buff without making it too strong against comps that sit together a lot (double melee/pomp + ranged).
Rewind maybe gets a number tweak to be more noticeable, 8% possibly. Alternatively could rewind a CD by 3+ seconds when used on an ally, but this only happens every 15 seconds or so, maybe longer. Numbers would need tweaking.
Recreate either gives Oldur a shield baseline, which might be too strong, or gives both Oldur and his partner a shield if he passes through them instead of just his partner. It's generally between this and rewind in most cases, and most players take rewind by default.

T4 remove Oasis and replace it with either another themed M1 modifier (possibly the delayed damage is +X, maybe reduced MS by some very minor amount, like 6%) or have something interact with one of his EX abilities. Chronobolt heals you if sands is consumed, Petrify CD down, something. Oasis is just terrible the vast majority of the time.

>>161170128
A buff to Ruh Kann's round 1 shiled Br, apart from giving you two shadowbolt charges it also halves its casting time.

I just want my shadowbolt Ruh Kaan to be viable.

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>>161170982
I think shaving any casting time off his M2 without giving it some drawback just causes his neutral game to be insane. He'd go from great 3s pick to absolutely mandatory.

Maybe if you cut the damage by a huge amount or massively increased the CD, but it would likely just become clunky that way

>>161170128
What if there was a Br that allowed ashka do move doing his righclick

>>161171326
Well, then they need to nerf his other R1 battlerites. There's no reason to pick his current shield Br over a silence or another move ability.

Only way I see that BR being viable is to touch the casting time.

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>>161172567
The whole BR should just be scrapped. Of course it's weaker than everything else, but the method you're offering to buff it just makes it insane.

It's hard to balance his M2 with a battlerite that doesn't pull it over the top, because the default ability is already really strong. Give it too much and you're going to have a Jade with self sustain and an M2 that's 10% weaker on a kit that flows a lot better. I doubt that's a design they want for harb.

That's the issue with every battlerite. There's going to be one in 90% of cases that's just flat out better than the rest or synergizes with picks down the tree to make it the best. Very few champions genuinely have tactical decisions to make when selecting battlerites. The closest is probably Lucie, and maybe Croak.

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>>161169663
ez pz

What nerfs do you guys think jumong needs next patch?

I think 1 less dmg on m1 and maybe a couple seconds of extra cd on prowl would put him in line with other ranged

>>161173248
Make the range on his click a wee bit smaller

>>161172854
Well, what I want is to make Ruh Kaan viable as a pseudo range character, as in to make one of his Br paths change his playstyle completely.

I go for Ruh Kaan because he's the only character which seems to have that possibility, althought I do agree that my original idea would brake him, I still think that there should be a path to change his playstyle in such manner. What do you think?

i'm buying this game I guess

what am I in for?

>>161176962
dying in 2 secs after battle starts. take your time to learn each hero.

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>>161174992
The reality is that they're not going to do anything that makes a harb M2 build viable. You buff it too much and you've taken Jade's identity and given a better snipe to a melee hero. Shadowbolt would likely either have to be reworked or his other abilities toned down to compensate for a gimmick build to work, which won't happen.

As mentioned before, if it did significantly less damage or had a longer base CD, maybe, but there's no real way to implement what you're talking about with the current battlerite system. It's already a 3s CD with a 1s windup, there's nothing else you could do to it without making his orb control and neutral game even stronger than it already is.

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Here a BR for Freya. Being attacked if you have electric shield will apply static

A BR that makes bakko's war shout heal instead of giving a shield but makes it cost 50 energy instead of 25.

>>161179440
How about it being a taunt that heals you for the amount during the taunt

>every game in standard is determined by who gets more new players on their team

Why is this game so terrible

>>161181428
>every team pvp game ever is determined by this

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>>161182417

>>161182502
list one game besides cs:go that isn't

>>161182757
Almost all of them
If I'd said newER, then maybe, but it's not like competitive teams are made up of whoever the oldest, most experienced players are. There's plenty of "newer", relatively speaking, players that sit on competitive teams
New players literally means new anon, like people that have just started the game

>>161181428
>every game in standard

>>161182971
>competitive teams

what is your argument here and how is this supporting it

>>161183312
Are you claiming that every game that has an unranked mode uses absolutely zero MMR system to predicate their matchmaking
because that sounds pretty stupid

>>161183403
see: >>161181428 and >>161182971
that is what is being claimed here by others apparently. i made no such claim or implication anywhere.

>>161183857
>>every team pvp game ever is determined by this

is what was said earlier
the only way this is true is if the game throws brand new players in all the time, and thus either uses no MMR in unranked or uses very, very shitty systems
so either the above is true, or what is quoted is true

>>161184037
and does so in every single team pvp game, as was claimed before

>>161184037
yeah, and as such, >>161181428 this is a false claim by what you said. then they backpedaled and said "NO NO I MEANT.. I MEANT BRAND NEW PLAYERS, NOT /NEWER/ PLAYERS."

>>161184452
>literally write "new players" in opening post
>somehow backpedaling over a phrase that was clear from the start

my almonds sure are activated today

>>161185334
>someone with 20 hours isn't new to someone with 100 hours
>someone with 100 hours isn't new to someone with 1000 hours
>b-b-but muh objectivity...

>>161185648
speaking of backpedaling
pretty sure the word new is an easily defined thing, anon

>>161185695
i just proved it's not, so

>>161186016
>new
>not existing before; made, introduced, or discovered recently or now for the first time.
>man, it sure is frustrating to play with these people who have just recently or for the first time discovered this game
>"nah man you don't actually mean the word as you intended it, you meant it as I inferred it"

firing on all cylinders bois

>>161186121
>words only mean what i say they mean, not how others interpret them

you should get a job on trump's PR team

>>161186318
>words don't mean the standard dictionary definition when used in that context, they mean whatever I infer them to mean that fits my argument

it's like a parody

Here is a cool thing you can do with Croak.
Your R Toxin Blades will not Break stealth so you Can go invis and Use Toxin blades and Deal 40 damage while there stunned

>>161188075
>Your R Toxin Blades will not Break stealth
what? really?
That doesn't sound right.

>>161189672
>samefagging

If you want to bump the thread, just bump the thread

>>161189672
>>161188075
>>161190072
all me.

>>161190938
also me

>>161190938
>>161191479
hi daniel

Thorn never

why is bakko hitbox the size of a truck

>>161192349
He's a big guy.

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>>161192642

>>161185648
I don't care about hours, just give me some kind of hidden MMR and MM system in unranked

who is daniel

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>>161194990

>>161194990
Some kid with new vans

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>new recolors in a few days
oh man, can't wait

Is there a "welcome to battlerite you suck" guide around?

Or just point me in the direction of the most braindead character you have.

>>161198430
try jade

>>161196038
>he thinks the content patch is the 1st

boy do I have some bad news for you

>>161198684
>what is common sense
it's not like it takes a month to make shitty skins

>>161199045
>implying SLS can do anything at a reasonable pace

their track record for small patches having absolutely no skins is pretty transparent desu

>>161199181
you are missing a point.
There is not reason for them to make a patch that only fixes 1 MM issue. There will be something else in this patch for sure and my bet is new skins

>>161199359
There's no point to miss senpai, SLS has put out micro patches before, related to matchmaking in fact

It was supposed to fix the exact same thing this patch is supposed to fix

>>161198430
Ruh kaan. Enjoy your free win.

>>161199486
we will see who is right and who is wrong in a 3 days

I just got this game from the sale and I see Astronomer is still bullshit fun holy shit free wins
I hope they release Reaver soon. Can't wait.

>>161199992
4 days :^)

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>it's "10 unranked games in a row i get 2 new people in my team" episode
This game is shit

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>the cute girls are all supports

nice stereotyping healers, game

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>>161200470

game is fun but matchmaking times are really long

do people mostly play 2s or 3s?

>>161201965
all pros are playing 2v2 and whining how 3v3 is dead

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>>161200039
>he thinks Sirius is OP

>>161204245
>Sirius
>not broken
Is this nigga Sirius?

>>161204245
from previous experience in BLC, astro was one of the best duelists

>>161206628
>from previous experience in BLC
doesn't apply

>>161207483
well he almost has the same kit, if not better

>>161207862
>if not better
>no EX Space

dropped

Will the ranking get a reset after the MM patch?
Curious to see if it's worth to start ranking now.

>>161209936
>it's worth to start ranking now
it';s not

>>161209936
>>161209975
it's fact, it's not even worth wasting your time on this game

>>161210205
Damn Daniel.

>>161210572
>implying there is a reason to play this game when core feature such as MM is broken
you stupid faggot daniel

>>161211092
>not enjoying the suffering of the broken MM

GOD DAMMIT DANIEL.

>>161211506
>enjoying the suffering
i'm not a swedecuck

just imaging how good the game would be if it was developed by slavs

>>161211908
>champion starts without half the abilities
>have to grind exp to unlock them
>to unlock champion A you first need to elite champion B

Yeah, it would be great.

>>161211908
they just need to hire a nigger, whos gonna wander around the office and slap them with his big black cock

just imaging how good the game would be if it was developed by japs

so is it my problem, or the game performance drops after a few games?

>>161214337
That does happen to me after around 10-15 matches, it's a slight drop but it's still there.

>Victory
>+0 points for winning

What?

which are the non-meme characters?

>>161214337
there's a small memory leak you might notice if you only have 8gb ram

>>161220918
i have 16 and fps drops after like an hour of playing 3v3s

>>161219423
i still don't how the fuck alphatester were satisfied with that shit and gave it a green light

how come battlerite doesnt have actual graphics?

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>Mfw I'm jade
>Against Bakko and oldur
>They think they can counter my snipes
>Never even touch the snipe

>tfw you can feel your skill increase every match

Whats your favorite heroes? I play Oldur, Lucie and Bakko mostly

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>>161228115
Croak,Jade,Pearl,Freya, and a Little bit of Ashka

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>start playing game
>pick Pearl because she kinda looks like Scylla from SMITE
>lose the past four games because my team is a bunch of drooling monkeys that keep doing things like killing themselves on Bakko's shield or getting pulled and picked off
>top every single category but can't 1v3 because healers are pretty strong

can I actually do anything about other people healing or do I just have to wait for matchmaking to save me

>>161229726
kill them first

I hate Teldo.

>>161229726
>MM
it's a joke
I found to be particularly hard to carry as healers, especially in 3s

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Who /page10/ here?

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I have over 300 hours of Battlerite

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>tfw saving chests
>December 14th hits
>will have 40 silvers, 20 golds, 2 legendaries, 10k gold
>will still probably get the same icons 40 times

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ayy

>>161233448
I'm doing the same but I'm only at 33 silvers, 6 golds, 1 legendary and 1k gold.

Should probably take a break until the patch hits. Logging on just to grind levels and quests is killing what little enjoyment I have left of this game.

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>>161233670
do not bully the poloma

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>everyone bitches about no one playing 3s
>decide to hop in 3s queue
>takes three times as long to find match
>finally get one
>first teammate has 10 games, second is a legitimate grade 7 after 800 games
>enemy team is a full stack of G12s playing a champ they're level 20 on
>repeat this three times over the course of an hour

my synapses sure are spinning today

The largest cause for concern has been the increasing number of the current thread page. While at the surface ithis seems like a warning sign for what is to come, it is expected and reversible.

AKA bump

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>be G13
>better than average, still miles below the top end players
>no one to play with around the same skill level because I'm an autist that's shit with social skills
>everytime I queue the closest to my grade are high end players in a stack so I play them every time
>teammate is whoever solo queue can throw together, very frequently brand new, sometimes G10
>choices are either queue up anyways and get destroyed or avoid queueing every time they're matchmaking
>tfw

sorry for blogpost

>>161157203
is she supposed to be a 99999-year old gnome or human child

>>161238552
Yes.

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>>161157203
What if pearls attacks acted like her left click

If they add more ex abilties what should they be /brg/?

>>161239412
Make Pearl undress for 25 energy.

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>>161239412
>>161239578
>Pearl is the flattest
>She uses her water powers to gain water tits

Did SLS say anything about bringing back more BLC champions?
I want my thorn.

>>161241584
I'm sure they will. Thorn seems incredibly popular - I never played BLC, but everyone I've talked to that had wants him back.

I'm not sure what everyone liked about him so much, but given that recreating an already existing character is a lot easier than making brand new ones, I'd expect to see a lot of them.

>>161243336
>>I'm not sure what everyone liked about him so much, but given that recreating an already existing character is a lot easier than making brand new ones, I'd expect to see a lot of them.
I'm guessing in BLC thorn was the first hero most new players picked

>>161241584
>>161243336
>>161243962
in the vein of blizzard, you think you want thorn but you really don't
and the reason why is because they're going to butcher him until he is unrecognizable except by visual theme, if even.
see stormcaller -> ezmo, glutton -> rook, inhib -> varesh, harbinger -> ruh kaan. it's gonna be disappointing.

>>161244332
I don't hate Harb's current existence
Ezmo is definitely shit in comparison though

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>>161233448

>implying the real reason for ded gaem isn't severe lack of waifus and low meme potential

>>161249662
it'll be big when it goes free-to-play. The average person will see it and go "oh, MOBA", and unless you directly appeal to chinks in that genre, you won't thrive.

>muh Free2Peru will save it

>>161249662
what this game needs is more lewds.

Hopefully Pearl lewds

literally how do I play Bakko

I can't into melee at all

>>161251632
play RK instead unless you really like bakko
shit's a lot more forgiving if you can't melee

>>161251764
wow, thanks.

>literally just run at people and blow them up because it's the only thing you can even do

CUM AT ME

>>161252740
Ruh Kaan not Rook

>>161250036
why do you think f2p people gonna stick to this game more than people, who has all heroes unlocked and who paid for this game

is it me or is Iva a trashcan

>>161255204
she is the worst range hero so go figure
she's a bit better in 3s tho

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>klerny says condemned is the best player in the game
>klerny says shifu is shit and needs a buff

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>>161262301
das gay

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>constantly beat people above you
>a single loss takes -12/-16

JUST

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>>161265239
it took them 2 months to react to that

>>161221381
>i still don't how the fuck alphatester were satisfied with that shit and gave it a green light

Alpha tester here.
We weren't. They literally ignored everything people suggested, including suggestions from top BLC players who continued to play even though the game had like 200 people playing at one time.

>>161265596
>"react"

that's a generous term

>>161238531
I know how it feels man.
>be G13
>Had 2 teammates at same skill level as me for the Masters of Bacon qualifiers
>Lose the 3rd match to the guys who won the qualifier
>teammates never played again
And I've been looking for teammates ever since

why can't i cancel Rook's M2 wtf\
did they nerf it like that

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>>161269612
>Casting Time: 0.1s
I hope your fingering skills are great enough for you to complain.

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>>161269771

How do you guys like to build assassin?

>>161270879
I dont know, how do you like to build wizard.

>>161269612
it goes into the air almost immediately, if you could cancel the i-frames it would be broken

a better question is why the fuck does "meat bolt"
1. Exist
2. Share a cooldown with normal M2 when it doesn't apply armor break?


Also while im at it, why does Berserk get stunned by Taya's M2? is it because it counts as 2 hits, the first being absorbed and the second stuns during invul?

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>>161273598
>melee with a 24 damage ranged attack that also snares
>somehow bad

>>161274215
>what is sirius
it's not consuming his charge btw

>27 posters

This game is going to be dead before it even goes f2p isn't it?

>>161275230
It would go a long way towards retaining people into Christmas if the Dec1 patch actually contained something other than the minor update to high/low ranked players playing together

Skins, some minor balance changes, literally anything

how is sicret club doing?

>>161274742
Sirius's banana also snares for 30% instead of 50% and has a longer windup

If they all had to compare their similar abilities to other character's similar abilities with no real variation, we'd have even more homogeneity than we do now. Meat bolt isn't fantastic but has a niche, just like Sirius's does

>Tfw used to play this game every day and nowadays don't even bother to launch it

heaheaheahea i am the big bad guy who plays this.

>>161277126
But anon, who will carry all the new players that always land in your team?

They need you.

what ranged champions and supports are worth learning?

>>161282690
delet this

>>161282690
EXPECTED AND REVERSIBLE

>>161282690
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>>161283559
The fact that reddit ate that up makes me unexpectedly angry

>>161282690
DED

>>161283689
Let it all out, anon.

Preferably here so you can bump the thread.

>>161287204
What if I want it to die? it deserves to

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>>161288889
What if I give you a hug? You need one.

>>161288889
But if it dies we wont be able to talk anymore.
Do you want that?

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>>161289057
You can't trick me, 2D rendering of a cute girl. You're not actually capable of hugging.

>>161289441
You never call anymore.

>this is the only way to keep the thread alive
It hurts.

Why am I always drawn to these abortions of a generals. Time and time again. I'M ONLY BRINGING PAIN UPON MY SELF WHY

>>161290557
I feel you, it turns out that the generals that I frecuent are the ones that always die.

jokes on you, I quit the game and uninstalled it

>>161291604
Too late anon, you will have to reinstall to party with me.

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>>161291604
Anon come on, it took me 5 whole minutes to make that image. The other anon seems nice too, don't let him down.

This game has the craziest player retention problem I've ever seen. Every single game in standard is with brand new players, but the only ones that exist beyond that are G13/14 that spend a LOT of time playing. Anything inbetween is either very rare, or I'm in a weird bubble where I never see it.

New players are everywhere, but I never see them stick around.

>>161292589
Why do you think that shit happens.

>>161292589
hard repetitious games have extremely low player retention, this is nothing new

look at the concurrent player counts of fighting games or twitch arena shooting games also

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8 SCORE JUMONG THREE ROUNDS IN A ROW
HOW DO YOU EVEN DO THAT
WHY IS EVERY GAME DETERMINED BY WHO GETS THE BIGGEST RETARD WHO FIGURED OUT HOW TO INSTALL THE GAME FIVE MINUTES AGO
I'M SO TIRED OF HAVING TO PLAY OUT OF MY MIND TO EVEN HAVE A CHANCE OF CARRYING THE PEOPLE I'M QUEUED WITH
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>161293939
fighting games aren't a good example because most fighting games have their crowd on consoles and not steam. they also have one of the biggest annual esports events

arena shooters are dead though and nothing will bring them back

>>161295185
biggest by what measure lol
fighting games are extremely small unless you're looking at fringe barely fighting game titles like MK, even the massive mainline game SFV that pulled tons of casual sales only sold ~3x as much as battlerite has in early access, battlerite's sales are around double xrd's

fighting games and a game like battlerite are also pretty similar, and I'd say if anything battlerite would be an easier sell for the avg. fighting game player than the average league/dota player

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did they bang?

>>161296785
Why is everything green?

>>161296897
its razer bus

>taya's EX1

I dont think there's a good moment to use this shit.

>>161292589
>New players are everywhere, but I never see them stick around.
they don't want to play dead game with shitty MM

>>161297958
like, you can stun people who is standing in line

>>161277126
playing 3v3 unranked is kinda give me some enjoyment

w-what if i want to play with you guys

>>161301862
add me in-game, Guntharius, then if I'm on playing by myself, I'll ask if you want to play

>>161301862
is this some kind of fetish?

>>161301862
Hyunjin although I'm from SEA

>bakko E charge increase but it's shit untill you get stun
>rook any BR at 1st round is shit untill 2nd round berserk on charge
who thought it is a good idea

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joltzie where is the stream

>>161306807
in an hour bruv

>>161301862
hi daniel

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/page10/ is mai waifu

>>161310740
i want to pump that pomp

>free weekend

how will this end for battlerite?

>>161312940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRPeWWeuO4c

We're announcing Battlerite's first free weekend, between December 1st to December 4th. During the free weekend Battlerite will have a 25% discount. Use this opportunity to invite your friends who have shown an interest in Battlerite!

>>161312940
they will get some sales, but not playerbase

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>[random player] adds you to friends

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>it's a "your team sees you fail the clutch" episode

>>161250181

With that comment alone, you made me realize I don't want it to be f2p, ever.

Dota has turned into planet of the apes, and let me tell you death is preferable.

>>161277126

I log-in as a result of having nothing better to do, and i realize that most games aren't even fun anymore. I feel like every game is one i've played before. I can predict the outcome very accurately based on team composition and grades before the game has even started.

I probably just need to take a break.

>>161312940

Why the fuck are they doing it before fixing MMR? Don't they realize the people who leave are never coming back?

>>161317470
no, they don't

>>161148625

>>161317470
>comptetent developer
>foresight
>quality retention tactics

pick 0

>thread isn't dead when I wake up

god damn it europe

>>161246783
I dunno. I always thought stormcaller looked like a dumb guido and gameplay wise he was based around one silly combo. Ezmo is a bit more fun and isn't a guido.

>>161229726
You can't carry in this game like you could in BLC.

>>161277036
Banana is a bastardized version of Astro's E in BLC, which did an attack speed debuff instead of a snare.

>>161313054
Holding a free weekend BEFORE they fix MMR is a bad idea. I thought they said all the MMR changes won't be in until Dec 14th

>>161317878

> A 30 damage + stun + pull, that can hit you from outside of the screen is a good idea

>>161318319
The biggest change on the 1st is that new players should stop getting matched up with people way outside their skill level. If it does what it's supposed to do, then with the large influx of (temporary) new players, they'll actually have quality matches for a while.

The majority won't play long enough to see problems in the ranked system.

>>161318319
FOR THE LAST TIME YOU IDIOTS
THERE ARE NO MMR ISSUES OTHER THAN EVERYONE DUCKING OUT OF RANKED

IF YOU THINK THE SYSTEM HAS ISSUES NOW YOU'LL COMPLAIN AFTER THE CHANGES JUST AS MUCH BECAUSE YOU ARE BAD AND JUST WANT THE SYSTEM TO TELL YOU THAT YOU AREN'T BAD

>>161318562
Psychological problems in that the system doesn't feel rewarding is still a problem, autist-sama.

>>161318662
go play peggle or something if you need flashing numbers to keep you interested in a game millennial

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>>161320120
>appealing in a non-damaging way to the playerbase who is likely to make up most of your profits
>somehow bad

>>161320120
Damn daniel.

>>161318562
so this is the power of autism, woah...

>>161320309
do you genuinely think any of them will stay for more than a month regardless of how many participation points you give them

>>161322065
So what's the solution? Make it so hardcore and unappealing that anyone that isn't diehard devoted to the game quits?

The game isn't deep enough for that to ever work

>>161322183
the "hardcore" are the only people who want to play a game like this long term, everyone else will burn out in less than 50 hours at the most

cash grab phase has already completed, sls way more than made back their investment and they can afford to take risks with the game moving forwards

what they'll actually do though is do terrible super "safe" mostly low content updates and focus on generic new heroes and cosmetics and hope they get more casual dollars for low effort and they'll milk the game into the ground

so don't worry, they're going to try to appeal to casuals and the game is already dead, you got your wish

>>161322501
If they were going to take these huge risks they needed to do it at the start, unless you really think the optimal goal was to release a low skillcap game, make a lot of money, then rework said low skillcap mechanics into higher ones

I can't imagine a single company that is not only willing to do that, but has the foresight to plan it out in advance and make the right kind of feedback

If they wanted to not fuck up a "hardcore" concept they needed to do it from the start

>>161322501
Calm down Daniel.

>>161318562
>THERE ARE NO MMR ISSUES
>EVERYONE DUCKING OUT OF RANKED
are you arguing with yourself? are you fucking retarded?

>>161323032
PEOPLE DUCK OUT OF RANKED BECAUSE THEY'RE BAD AND KNOW THEY PLACED TOO HIGH AND WANT TO SIT ON THEIR RATING

ALL OF THEM WILL QUIT AFTER THE SOFT RESET

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>>161324031
>all of them

Not even you believe this
I intentionally made two alt accounts, because I thought the same thing - I duo'd my way to G13 and wasn't sure if it was a fair assessment, so I got two alt accounts (one before it was hotfixed, and one permanently after) and got both of those to G13 as well while solo

I don't play ranked either because it all feels like shit, even before the mass exodus. Solos against duos who picked their comp, lopsided grades per team, the inability to try out new champions without being at a severe deficit (pre standard) etc

>>161324428
COMPLAINT ABOUT 2V2 FILED IN THE TRASHCAN WHERE IT AND YOU BELONG

>>161324524
how about you link your masterbattlerite you apparent god at the game, let's see your shit

also
>implying 3s queues weren't dead within two weeks of EA launch

>>161324625
ALL 2V2 RATING IS IRRELEVANT AND UNDESERVED AND COMPLAINTS OR BRAGGING ABOUT 2V2 RATING ARE MEANINGLESS

>>161324692
great, fair, sounds good
now show your 3v3 stats you faggot

>>161324732
https://masterbattlerite.com/profile/2472

>>161318662
upping the "psychological rewards" isn't going to help whatsoever. the scrubs get +25 per win, and then what? eventually they hit a plateau where the only place they can go is down, and then win themselves back up to that plateau peak. and then what's the problem going to be?

it'll be "wahh i get shitty idiot teammates so i can't win! they need to fix MM so that i get good people instead of retards!" which is half of the problem already. the other half is that champion design is too shit for individual skill > teamwork it's just masked by the low or sometimes 0 point gain from wins.

>>161324428
3s are going to be even more shit after the MM changes since they're going to match 3 solos vs a trio. can't queue for 3s as a duo whatsoever. BRILLIANT!!

>>161324997
>implying this is you
>implying if it is that you do anything other than play 2s
Now actually post a screenshot of your account you autistic fuck

>>161324997
post timestamp with opened game

>>161325218

the game has a lot of problems, and MM is one of them

>>161325218

> upping the "psychological rewards" isn't going to help whatsoever.

You're delusional. A sense of progression and achievement is an absolute necessity in a game as repetitive and low-content as BR.

The purpose of MMR is not and was never to be used as a balancing tool, it's only used to make players feel good. If it was just for the purpose of balancing games, then why show it to the player to begin with?

>>161326629
just stop playing games forever dude you are empty inside

free play weekend
gaem is det

>>161326912
nice argument fampai

>>161326912

Would you kill the same monster in an MMO 100 times in a row if it wasn't to complete a quest with a reward?

BR is only fun for the first few dozen hours, then every game is a copy of another you've played before.

Reward is the absolute base of game design, get educated.

>>161328049
are you really so clueless that you liken this game to an mmo

the reward is something you'd never be able to understand because it's locked behind hard work

>>161328151

The reward is "you beat your opponent". That feels good for a short time, then you stop caring due to sheer repetition.

I've been playing BLC since beta so you can get off your high horse any time.

Please explain how "hard work" concretely translates to a reward in BR. I'll be waiting.

>>161328949
I don't believe you spent even a second playing pre 2.0 when your first concern is mmo garbage

games like this are about improving, winning is just a byproduct of improvement

ironic that you're advocating more skinnerbox bullshit in the same breath you complain about repetition though

go back to lego legendz or whatever it is you actually play

>>161326629
>A sense of progression and achievement
did you miss where i said that players will reach a skill peak and then stop seeing any progression? did you not read where i asked, what happens after that?

>If it was just for the purpose of balancing games, then why show it to the player to begin with?
hurrrrr what is people wanting to feel like their games are balanced and fair

>>161329317
>games like this are about improving, winning is just a byproduct of improvement

And how can you tell you're improving when the MMR is broken ?

> players will reach a skill peak and then stop seeing any progression?

Why do you think seasons reset in almost every competitive game?

> people wanting to feel like their games are balanced and fair

It will automatically feel balanced and fair if you are evenly matched with opponents, why does the number need to come into play?

Try to focus on arguments instead of throwing ad homs ok?

Hear me out folks. The stupidest fucking part about this so called "true skill" system is how it gives you less for winning a close game. On paper it makes sense, the game was close so the ratings don't need to be adjusted that much, but in practice psychologically it undermines the fuck out of the satisfaction you get for winning. Imagine you played a 70+ minute game in Dota 2 and finished victorious on a throne race, and the system would give you fifth of the points you'd normally get because the match was close. People would be fucking livid over that. True skill is garbage and it needs to go.

>>161329863
>season reset
those don't change a player's perceived or actual skill. most competitive games use their previous season's rank as a starting point for new season's placement matches, and then they're stuck in the exact same spot as before.

>evenly matched
if you haven't noticed, that's the exact problem that we have been talking about for weeks here. you will never, ever, be evenly matched in a game like this that only has ~3.8k DAILY players. you likely won't even be evenly matched in a game with ~10k players. which is a reason why ranking is shown, and why MM is and will always be broken no matter what band-aid fix they make that sets up matches. because unless you're okay with waiting a half-hour for a game, which no one is, you're going to have uneven matches.

>ad homs
maybe you should learn what ad hominem is before claiming it's being used against you

>>161330574

> why MM is and will always be broken

I never talked about match making, i'm only talking about rating. It's a tool to deceive and charm players. As you said yourself, players need to "feel" like their games are balanced. They need to "feel" like they are improving. It's all about perception.

> those don't change a player's perceived or actual skill.

It forces them to increase their rating again. Maybe not from 0, but definitely from a point is that is below what the player thinks he can attain.

If you want your game to be hugely popular, you need to have some jew magic in there.

>>161330557
Or just have trueskill apply and remove the modifiers for won/lost rounds. The swings would be higher, but it would make streaking a lot easier which would remove a lot of the complaints about how winning 20 games in a row doesn't net you very much.

If the playerbase gets big enough that you're not constantly playing up/down 2 grades, TrueSkill will work fine. Taking away the psychological grind from going 3-2 and gaining a third the normal points would help significantly.

>>161331043
Who wants this game to be hugely popular? I would sooner it die than moba players coming over in droves, at that point it would be a mercy killing.

>>161333114
i don't necessarily want battlerite to be popular anymore, but i want it to inspire someone to make a GOOD arena game. which would be an amazing esport and possibly the biggest ever seen.

i know people wanna say that the genre is too niche but that's only because it's niche right now. if someone makes it fun and complex enough, it'll explode in popularity. battlerite could have (~400k sales) if they didn't fuck everything crucial up.

>>161334056
the only difference between an "esport" and any other competitive game is the amount of money dumped into marketing it, having a good game can save you money in the long run but it isn't a requirement

>>161334056
What kind of "good" brawler would you like to see? What would be different than battlerite? I know the common complaints of smaller hitboxes/faster speed/less homogenization, but what would you really change to make a "good" one?

>>161324031
>PEOPLE DUCK OUT OF RANKED BECAUSE THEY'RE BAD
no because they want fair matches and they want to play against better players to improve, but since system designed to keep you around same rank after a certain amount of games, they can't
Why are you so retarded and can't understand a simple truth is beyond me.

melee fights are lame

>battlerites are now EX abilities
>instead of choosing them individually each round, you now choose a set of 3 at the start of the match

y / n?

I just finished playing some MKX

>get in unranked 3s
>guy instantly says "i'm new please don't flame me"
>after the match he says "sorry we lost because i'm bad"
i would refund if i was him

>>161335307
Y-you are lame.

I hate Teldo.

>>161334447
those three things, but also far more emphasis on individual skill and raising the skill caps of each champion. i believe one of the biggest appeals of DotA/LoL is that even though teamwork is important, you can still carry a game yourself if you're skilled enough, or your team can turn it around. victory is rarely assured in those games unless it's 0-10 within the first couple minutes.

it's just not the same in battlerite. you MIGHT be able to win in a 2v2 if you have some self-heal and one of the enemies is <50% hp. it's downright impossible in 3v3 barring a massive mistake from the enemy team. and it's demoralizing and unfun to feel so insignificant in a team game, especially one where a team is only 2 or 3 people.

that said, of course this would stop being as important at higher ranks and it would be just as teamplay-heavy as it is now, but the important part is that good players could carry themselves out of low ranks just by being skilled, and the mediocre players would have people to look up to and aspire to be as good as. and even then who knows, is it such a problem to have 1 or 2 pros that nobody can defeat because they're so individually talented? does battlerite even have any stand-out talented pro players that can be universally admired for their skill? will it ever?

>>161335964
I'm going to cut out your forks with a grebhavel

>>161336643
But anon, Teldo loves you.

>>161338207
It's fitting that Teldo's love of the game will be the thing that kills it.

>try ranked
>team Dcs
>mad but give it another shot
>teammate is shit and dies immediately
>have to 1v2 every round
>still manage to win 2 rounds
>when I fail my team calls me shit and tells me to uninstall

I see the F2P crowd is somehow managing to get in.

>>161336681

It's more simple than that: the time to play one match is longer in those games. Each game tells a story, with its ups and downs, with its calm moments that serve as build-up for the climaxes.

The most important thing for a game to be an esport is how fun it is to watch, not how fun it is to play.

>>161343018
You massively overestimate people who watch things on twitch. All of their opinions are just pulled from others, the only thing you need is decent casters. DotA is the most dumbshit boring game to watch for an extended period of time but put people like Tobiwan screaming like a lunatic behind a mic and normies will flock to it.

>>161343202

The number of viewers is directly proportional to the amount of money being made by tournament organisers, which is proportional to prize pool sizes. This is what draws the real competition.

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>>161343573
>$1m prize pool for heroes of the storm
># of viewers directly proportional to prize pool size

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bumping because this abortion of a general will never survive on its own due to the inherent flaws prevalent in the game as well as the dev's inability to acknowledge they exist in any real fashion

kill me

>>161348616
hi daniel

>>161343202
slow-paced games like LoL and DotA are excellent spectator sports in their own way because there's exciting moments in-between long stretches of boredom, so you don't actually have to pay attention to the game and instead you can just drink and talk to your friends.

So basically like baseball.

If I didn't make my $20 back and then some from selling mount codes I'd be really sad this game died.

>>161353164
What saddens me is that I dont know what I'll play if this dies.

>>161353490
>if

>>161353598
Sshhh, let me dream.

How do we save it?

>>161359353
Address the matchmaking issues. Drop trueskill. Don't fuck up F2P launch.

>>161360707
Changing matchmaking will guarantee the game dies. F2P will fuck the game up beyond repair either way.

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>>161359353
>Go F2P with unlockable champions, pay $15 to unlock everyone. Casuals love the skinner box and reduced roster so they can slowly learn the game.
>Make it available on consoles, exclusive for the PS4, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch.
>China release because if you can't grow in the West you can always rely on the countless chinks to inflate your numbers.
>Pearl remodeled to look like this.

>>161361184
>Pearl remodeled to look like this.
Yes please!

>>161336934
What the fuck does that even mean

i wonder what they will focus on after that MM fix

>>161365440
IT'S NOT A MATCHMAKING FIX
MATCHMAKING IS WORKING AS INTENDED

>>161365506
nice 3s stats faggot

>>161365506
What is it then

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>>161365506

whats the comp scene like

>>161367048
smallish tournaments, not all casters are made equally, some are absolute shit

if you don't play in tournaments you would need to find someone to invite you to consistent inhouses, and you'd need a team for that. you're not going to get any real competition through ranked unless you're lucky

if you just mean watching then they're streamed on twitch pretty regularly

DED

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>all the characters basically play the same

Champion that summons soldiers but doesn't fight personally when?
Champion that only has 50 HP but has to die four times to be killed for real when?
Champion that requires two players to control (with one controlling movement+melee and the other controlling ranged abilities) when?

>>161371597
>Champion that summons soldiers but doesn't fight personally when?
That would be fun.
So, never.

>>161371597
>Cho'Gall in Battlerite

I don't know how to feel about this

I hope they add a champion that can ress.

>duo stacks of G13 players up against new players and a random solo queue player
>going as hard as they can every single time on the new player

christ guys, surely you have better things to do

>20% of the posts are bump posts

god is dead

>big fucking patch every month instead of smalls ones every few weeks
they don't learn anything

>>161378567
So you prefer smaller cocks if you can suck them more?

>>161378657
We're still getting fucked either way.

>>161378657
just say "bump" you dumb nigger

>no balance patches for nearly a month
>two new heroes and MM remake will come out at dec 15 instead of 1 hero earlier and 1 hero later
fucking idiots goddamn
also, their communication is atrocious
>"Hey guys, we are losing players every day, what should we do?"
>"Remain silent, don't tell anything"

>>161380806
Worked for Hello Games :^)

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>not sure how to balance the game and what mode to pick
>can't decide yourself because no time to play the game, so you get some vets in closed group to test new shit
>ignore their opinions completely

>>161374040
>christ guys, surely you have better things to do

They don't. There is one player I ran into several times now named Shiiii or something like that. He purposely dropped his rating from 3600+ down to 2000 by losing over 100 games on Ashka, then shits all over the new players he queues against.

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>>161380806
>>161384281
I just don't understand how you fuck up that badly. Your playerbase is clearly dying. The top end players, with the exception of the limited few who have something to gain by saying otherwise (i.e. twitch streamers with a following), have all been saying the game isn't enjoyable past a certain point and it's not deep enough.

Your casual players have all said that ranked doesn't feel rewarding or fun. They don't have a lot of skinnerbox shit to go after, the skins and weapons are all lackluster with a couple of exceptions. The jump to level 20 helped, but most casuals aren't getting that high in the first place, so it's barely enticing anyways. Content updates come out so slow that both parties get bored of the game because of how repetitive it can be without good competition for the top end and compelling progression/skins/"stuff" for the low end to keep playing through.

Then there's all the promises they've already broken just from EA to now. They promised months ago solos wouldn't go up against duos in ranked anymore. They still did, even back during the 11k and 13k player spikes, so it wasn't due to lack of population, they just didn't actually fix anything. They promised more frequent content updates instead of larger patches, but then will have gone almost two months before making any real changes to the majority of the cast other than RK and breaking Rook all over again, to say nothing of cosmetic items.

The only people that are left are the high end players, G13+ and some random G12s, and brand new players that haven't quit yet. Every single Standard game is currently three veterans and one beginner - whoever doesn't get the beginner gets a free stomp, the vet on the other team loses for free, and the beginner wonders why he bothered playing this game in the first place. Ranked is entirely dead, and 3s queues are entirely dead unless your goal is to 3 stack and beat up whoever is new enough to try it out.

I just don't get it.

>>161396148
There are some good signs about the big patch, but nothing more.