/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

Reminder: Civ 6 is garbage

First.

And last

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Reposting

Is any of the Endless Legend DLC necessary and can my shitty toaster even run it?

>>161074264
Why are you asking about DLC if you don't know if you can run the base game?

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I have recently started playing Norway because I feel so bad playing against it.

Harald is being bullied in every single match that he spawn in.

Poor Harald dindu nuffin to deserve this.

>>161074354
So I don't have to make a second post if it turns out I can

>>161073273
I think it was the first game that I simply couldn't play.
My graphics card was so outdated that I couldn't even boot the game up.

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>>161074375
Norway has shit bonuses desu

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>>161074179

Whoops.

>>161076003
That game is pretty cool with mods.

>>161074179
Alright anons.

How do we fix naval combat in civ?

>>161076493
turn all ships into melee ships

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Holy shit whoever thought up this increasing production cost for everything mechanic in VI needs to kill themselves. It has to be one of the most shitty unfun ideas I've seen in a modern game. I hope they patch this shit out in one of their next fixes, or give it a proper look at and think up something else less shitty for an expansion.

>>161076003
>whitebase
I always over extend/design for aesthetic and end up struggling through the first winter, I just can't help myself.

Also putting down stone roads before I can really afford them because they look nice.

>>161076493
Fix the AI so they get to naval warfare in nearly the same century as you do.

>>161076493
turn all ships into ranged ships

>>161076493
turn all ships into cannons

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>tfw your country sucks shit in the only civ game it's been in

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>try early war in Stellaris
>Corvettes can't even scratch spaceports
>even Destroyers with T2 kinetics and shields struggle badly
Guess I never try war before I get cruisers ever again. All I wanted was to make the Commander proud and purge aliens in the name of the XCOM Project

>>161077514
>being this bad

>>161074179
Is Stellaris still shit?

>>161077745
Yes and it always be shit.

>tfw diplomacy is simplistic and sucks and the AI denounces and declares war for the stupidest reasons
I just want to be Otto von Bismarck dammit

>>161077816
Just wait for the inevitable overhaul-of-one-aspect DLC, wich will hopefully be diplomacy

On another note, any way to get a list of all my units like in V?

>>161077972
I'm not very confident that they'll ever fix the shit AI, they never really did with that with the AI of V either

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>>161077514
use torpedo
they are i blow this space port weapon

>>161078239
Not Fallout, not Metro...
Killzone, maybe?

>>161076493
turn all ships into workers so you can chop down more trees

>>161078535
Gone with the Blastwave

>>161077357
Which country is that, m9?

>>161078589
Norway

>>161077357
>tfw your country will never be in a civ game

>>161078586
Mmm?

>>161078680
I assume you were wondering where that picture came from?

>>161077514
The answer to your problem is the same as all military problems in Stellaris: build more ships. If you've got 30+ corvettes, you should be able to take out the 500 - power spaceports; yes you'll take losses, but that's a given with corvettes.
Alternatively, take the Military Dictator ethic so you can make Grand Destroyers, which at 1250 or so base health can tank most of the station's damage while your corvettes chew the station up.

>>161078839
I just couldn't recognize the soldier. I thought I could google it, but maybe it's indeed that webcomic.

>When you listen to Brazil's Civ 6 theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT1y8Jh9ux4

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>>161079071
fuck my life, forgot pic

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Asked before but just in case I will ask again.
Hows Sins of a solar Empire? This game keeps me interested because the idea of space and strategy always liked me (Used to play a lot Ogame).
In the other thread some guy told me its really a rts, and that theres no campaign, just multiplayer. Do you guys comend it if its still a rts? Got no probs with that.

>Spain gets fucked by barbarians
>Now barbarian conquistadors are border jumping onto my territory, spain has no military to get rid of them
I'm about to just conquer that entire shithole just to get rid of this nuisance

>>161078653
More like Snoreway

>>161081857

Boreway

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>>161081857
Bra vits

How long until I get comfortable with Endless Legends' mechanics?

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>>161071494
It will run like a charm. I've got a GTX 720M and it runs at a silky smooth 30fps.

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>>161074264
The DLC is mandatory.

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>>161081954
Due to my extensive knowledge of your personality, habits and preference, I can say with absolute confidence that you will love it after completing 2 more games.

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>>161083469
>warm reception
>burning with desire
>stoke the flames

anybody here play birth of the federation? just started and finding it fun as fuck, haven't played as anyone aside from the federation yet though

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>>161083687
Well spotted. The dinner ends with an unexpected climax...

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United Empire in 2 feels too generic.

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LIVE!

>>161083667
Thanks?

I just completed my first game of Civ6.

Prince difficulty, Religious Victory with Gandhi.

Did I make a good choice?

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>>161085232
Just complete the two games. Do it not for me but for yourself.
>>161085283
>not going for meme-apocalypse with Gandhi
You're ok.

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>>161085283
Damn I forgot Image.

Playing Fall from Heaven 2...

What is it about octopus overlords that makes it so appealing to Basium?
And why do good factions go out of their way to found or convert to ashen veil?

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>>161084995

Is there a tech or civic in civ that gives you housing for having medieval walls? I feel like I've seen one but I can find it and I might have just imagined it.

>>161077357
>that feel when literally never been in a civ game outside of mods

I know I live in a non country (Canada) but it would still be nice.

>>161087119
>Canada hasnt been in any Civ, not even DLC
>My small as fuck country has been in 3 Civ games
Fuels my dutch pride a little to be honest

thinking in civ terms because i don't really play the rest

Why is there no game option to cap a match at a certain era?

Like, why not let you start classical, then end in medieval. would let you really play around with your favorite era, and kinda alleviate (by removign) the whole "zip past an era before it makes a difference."
is that just too similar to a "research takes way longer but production doesn't" mod/mode?

Are non-domination vics possible on Deity or just no?

>>161087870
Dunno you could probably do it in a mod but I think it is too close for people to bother to make one.

>>161083667
Tell me about the Delvers. Why do they wear those masks?

>>161088049
Is there a good "research takes longer but production doesn't" mod? The couple I've found had some other bullshit thrown in or nerfed production anyway.

I just noticed the ES2 update. Did it significantly improve the game?
Not planning to fall for the EA meme myself, just wondering how fucked is ES2.

>entire ui is plaintext uml and lua

Neat. Turns out I can play solitaire after all if I just delete the line of lua that removes the 'remove player' buttons.

>>161089010
http://www.nexusmods.com/civilisationvi/mods/27/?
There's the option of 2x, 5x or 10x.
There's also one for civics and one for great people (or all three in one) by the same guy.

I've been using the 2x all in one and it's pretty good but you get in these weird situations in the early game where you haven't unlocked new things to build so you're just spitting out builder/settlers you really don't need.
It gets solved later on because you can just do the district boosts.

What would be a good government mechanic that appropriately represented forming/creating a government but still was "gamey" enough?

Like I was thinking something sort of like Civ 6, but where you gain slots the longer you have a government type enacted, and it takes a considerable amount of time to peacefully switch, you can switch right away though and have a period of anarchy.

>>161086824
the monarchy government

I stopped following Civ 6 days after it came out. Was there ever any patches to fix some cheats, or are we still waiting for it?

>>161090642
>cheats
Couldn't you just, like, not use them? I think Firaxis fixed some exploits already, but not all of them.

>>161080954
That guy was right, it is an rts and there's no campaign. It is really fun, though yeah, you're pretty much stuck with multiplayer

>>161080954
Skirmish/multiplayer only.

3 great factions, but with loyalist/rebels subfactions who are a little different (mostly defensive/offensive).

Lots of options (can use missiles launcher to painlessly take out defenses, or use bombers, or just go in and go in like the US marshall and his three daughter).

Space pirates that are meh but can help fuck the enemy up.

Pretty straightforward game, you see what you get.

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>tfw already 131 hours in VI

hoooolieeee kit and caboodle, how the fuck did that happen

>>161092564
do you consider them to be time well spent?

>>161092760
probably wouldn't be 131 otherwise, yeah it's good, better than V

>>161079071
Sometimes I just want to find Brazil and listen to his music, there is a lot of civs with bad music in this game, but Brazil's god tier

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>CIV VI
>Playing King for the first time as Japan
>Build 3 cities next to Rome
>Trajan is mad at first but becomes my friend
>Send all my envoys to Buenos Aires
>Spain declares war and conquers Buenos Aires
>Spain has the strongest military in the world
>Brazil is the weakest
>Gilgamesh is cucking Cleopatra, raping Teddy and making everyone Islamic
>Kongoman has 80 science per turn and a 100 technology's on turn 70
>Brazil is in last place on science
>Gilgamesh, who is in the other side of the huge ass round lake, decides to settle near me
>I go fucking mental and declare war on Spain and trick Cleopatra into going to war with Gilgamesh for some orange juice
>Teddy denounces me even tough he's in a war against Gilgamesh
>Pedro starts converting my cities so i declare war on him too
>After freeing Buenos Aires and Capturing Gilgamesh's city i decide to invade Pedro territory with my 5 Superior Samurai, 3 Crossbows and 2 catapults
>Pedro, who has the weakest military and is in last place on the science stuff has canons and infantry on turn 200
>I lose half of my cities to Spain and Brazil
>Trajan goes neutral
>Cleo denounces me
>Kombo's fucking african song wont stop playing as i get my ass devoured by Barbarians and Spain/Brazil
>Make a peace deal with Brazil
>He only accepts the treaty after giving me niter
>Kongo goes to space

>>161094079
>Kongo goes to space
WE WUZ

>>161085912
Are you playing regular FfH2 or submods? Because in some submods the leaders just randomly pick what religion they pick.

>Decius always picks Ashen Veil, even when he's Bannor or Malakim leader

Fucking why.

>>161094079
>losing a city on King

you are terrible at this game

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>turn 778
>next turn
>M'bongo um Niggers turn
>crash
>oh no
>boot autosave and declare war
>next turn
>crash

oh boy, guess I wont be playing for a good week

firaxis is genuine trash-tier

>>161095358
It's okay, dear customer, a patch will fix it! So it's okay for it to be shit!

Why do district costs scale with techs/civics? I get that housing keeps population in check and amenities keep expansion in check. But settling a city in the late game to get oil etc. feels super bad. You can't build anything in it because districts take 40 turns.

>>161095358
Endless Legend and all DLC is on sale right now ;p

>>161096554
fuck you that's why
workers also scale

>>161096554
Because the game is made for environmental determinists.

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING MODS SID?

YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE MODS

Is there any way to force alien pops to emigrate from your empire? I've been using the intersterllar railroad event to slow drain all my alien pops, but I've got 300ish enslaved aliens so it's taking some time.

I could just purge them all, but really if I could just force them onto reservations somewhere that'd be fine. As it is, they're kind of distributed here and there around my empire, so I can't even give them vassalization.

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>>161097623
you resettle them on some shithole and then release them.
need shit tom influence tho and free planets.

>>161086503
Knowing my luck, I will roll expansion victory on cultists.

Endless Space or Stellaris? or whatever the best space 4x game is out there?

already got endless legend?

>>161099290
>Endless Space
The second is on the way.

I'd suggest Distant Worlds.

>>161099325
there's a second one coming?

>>161099419
Are you living under a rock? Endless Space 2 is in beta right now.

>>161099523
Somewhat...I'm looking at the store page right now, worth getting even in beta or wait?

Has anyone actually managed to beat an awakened empire in Stellaris 1.3?

If so, please descend from on high to tell me how the fuck you did it.

I'm currently playing my first game since the patch dropped. The AI keeps trying to offer me luxuries I already own. It never did that before the patch. What the hell?

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>>161099523
More like Alpha. Barebones as dust.

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>>161099663
>worth getting even in beta
Hell no.

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>>161094079
>Play as India on Emperor
>Spawn near 3 city states, with Aztecs and Brazil as neighbours
>Don't have a large military, because muh peaceful India (and I'm a dumbass)
>Aztecs have largest military and they declare war on me
>Oh well, guess I'm fucking fucked now
>Rush walls in both my cities as Aztecs are slowly surrounding me with their forces
>Get an envoy and become suzerain of Hong Kong who have their city right next to Aztecs agricultural city which is feeding all their troops
>Levy Hong Kongs military (which is to be reckoned with) for 440 gold, because I saved money for not having troops of my own
>Take the Aztec agricultural citiy with levy'd troops, because all their military are away sieging my cities
>For some mystical reason they don't have any fucking siege weapons so I pick them off one by one with elephants and archers while they have trouble breaching my walls
>3 barbarian encampments spawn near their capital city steady churning out a stream of barbarian diarrhea
>Barbarians raping and pillaging his capital, burning it to the ground
>I help the barbarians take the last city, eliminating the Aztecs once and for all
>All the while I have a shit-eating grin on my face

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Is Offworld Trading Company a better 4X than CivVI?

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>>161101442
>are onions a better meat than bananas?

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>>161101442
I hear that its solid game. Worth pirating?

>>161102014
Worth pirating and buying on a sale. I don't know if it's worth full price.

>>161101442
It's not a 4x.
It is a very good game though.

>>161100912
>>161101074
Do they have land battle options or is it still just a meter thing

>>161102536
There are actual land battle options and things. The recent beta update actually expanded upon it a bit.

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forum/65-general/thread/19715-es2-gdd-14-ground-battle

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>>161101381
JC this fucking game.

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>>161102873
Just took a screenshot of the new troop management for ground battles. Before it automatically divided your manpower among infantry/armor/air when you unlocked the techs. Now you can control the distribution and upgrade them.

>>161103143
>on empire
So what, only on planets you control? Or only with units you made yourself?

wow

I won religion on deity
russia is gud civ

>>161103329
On your entire empire i.e. everything you control so on planets and ships as their the only things that actually use manpower.

Speaking of manpower, as all ships now take manpower, they can also contribute to planetary invasions even if they don't have invasion modules on them so a fleet of pure space superiority ships can do a ground battle with a planet.

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>>161103476
Дa

>>161100163
I'll post it in spoilers so that people who want to figure it out can still do so:
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>>161102508
Is it fun if you've gotta play against bots?

>>161103952
It's one of the few games where you can literally play alone (as in, without any opponents) and still have fun.
It totally changes when you have opponents, though...

>>161104013
Oh neat. I am a fan of solitaire so that sounds alright.

Is anyone here fond of pigs?

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>>161106636
Let shitty memes die.

>>161106636
I'm fond of your mother.

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>just wanna have comfy times playing as my homeland hoe, Victoria
>literally nothing sets her apart from the other civs until you hit the midgame
>leading in nothing and can't tell if I'm just doing badly or if I'll catch up once I get redcoats and shipbuilding

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Not bad.

I'm fairly certain this isn't the correct general but do you lads know any decent youtube series for Crusader kings 2? I want to learn the game but reading all the tips is a drag and don't explain everything too well.

I once played the Sythians and Spawned on the north edge of a continent where Mountains blocked me completely off the rest of the continent apart from 2 tiles on either side of the mountains.

It was honestly the best game I've played. I grinded and flooded my land with cities and districts. As soon as I got nukes I completely wiped the civs south of the mountains that I didn't have trade routes to.

>>161109752
On Youtube? I don't know.
The game changes a lot with each patch anyway, so tutorials are quickly outdated.

The good general is /gsg/ by the way.

>>161109752

Wrong thread. But honestly, just pick a big kingdom or duchy that will let you make some mistakes and play the thing. You'll pick it up.

Ireland used to be the preference for first timers but I haven't played for a while and this may have changed.

>>161106807
What is that from?

>>161109752
the general is gsg

Youtube: Look up Arumba's videos. They helped me quite a lot.

Personally, I just played the tutorial up until my character died, loaded up a new game with the same character (King of Leon, 1066) and went on from there. Ended up assassinating my two brothers (king of Galicia and Castille) and went on several holy wars to the South. Eventually formed the Empire of Hispania and went on to conquer Africa. Play a Spanish king to learn the basics of warfare, economy, and politics. Enjoy the crusades, but only put all your chips in if you have nearby territory.

>>161100163
Its not hard if you play on normal.
>Got awaken fallen empire in 2330 something
> Only had 40k fleet for their 130k
> I left some buffor between but its gone in first five years of awaken empire war campaign
>Use that time to spam navy and get to 70k
>Declare war and took two of their worlds (they got around 15 at that time )
> Build wormhole station and bait them to engage me there.
>take down their fleet in two battles (50k and 90k)
> Tour around their systems to destroyed all the defense stations.
> Split fleet and blocade their planets for easy warscore

That last part was important. I probably could take their planets, but they had 'strong' merit and my guys we're 'weak' (and i didnt have better soldiers/xeno ect.)

Most important is to take them on as early after the awakening as you can. If you cant warp to them its probably game over.

>>161074179
Why does Gandhi look so irritated all the time? Even when I'm his ally he's giving me the stinkeye.

>>161084995
Never played an AoW game. But this simple pic intrigues me. Looked it up and AoW3 looks pretty cool. Is 3 the best to get into? Anything I should know about it before delving in?

>page 10

>>161115726
That defending units get a huge advantage, since they can attack several time.
And that you must unlock high tier units very quickly.

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Yeeeaaah

Yeeeaaah

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>>161116069
>play a culture based race
>1990 or later victory
>play WE WUZ KANGZ
>win culture in 1500s

newfag to 4x here, I have hundreds of hours in X3 games (which I guess technically count?) and I own endless legend/space and SoSE

What should I buy this steam sale?

>>161116598

We was Yeeeaaah (yeeaaaah)

>>161117143
If you're worried about money just pick up the complete Civ V edition and work through that. Otherwise picking up Civ VI probably won't be too heinous seeing as you're new.

If you're super-strapped, get the expansions for Endless Legend and try that out.

I haven't gotten Stellaris, but with the amount of salt I see from the general I think I might as well wait.

>>161117143
I just picked up Endless Legend in the sale and am having a really good time with it. Lots to learn

>>161117939
It's a good game, endless space is inferior in every way but theme of space, and if you don't enjoy spess then its just completely garbage.

>>161117802
I don't really want a ground based 4x, I should have said "Space 4x" in my original post

In Endless Legend, is there a feature like the "Civpedia" in Civ?

>>161115920
sounds good, thanks m8

>>161118216
All of the Master of Orion games are on sale on steam, even the new okay one.

>>161094031
The only civ whose music I don't really like that much is Arabia. Everyone else I can't get enough of. Who do you think is bad?

>>161118590
I think Amplitude saves on resources by just redirecting folks to the official wiki.

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>>161116598
Well if you look at USA and west Europe kangz actually win cultural victory.

>>161120131
considering SEGA bought the company I hope this changes in Endless Space 2 and future DLC for Legend, perhaps a Legend 2?

>>161120494
Granted there isn't huge amount of fluff to begin with, it's partially spread out through faction questlines as well as the other games in the universe. They understand the 4X community enough that they try to focus on mechanics (even if that doesn't always succeed) before going for those nice-to-have encyclopedias and whatnot.

>>161076739
That, and the stupidly low tech costs made me uninstall and be thankful I didn't shell out 60 bucks.

>>161109752
Just play the game.
Start as a duke in a region that won't get hit by religious wars like the HRE and try to get groß

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>>161115920
>That defending units get a huge advantage, since they can attack several time.
>tfw playing as Orc Theocrat with Orc Crusaders and Martyrs
>tfw also playing as Dreadnought of any race and using high-rank Golems.

>All this talk about the ES2 wiki reminds me that it exists
>Go to check it
>See that they updated the factions with their spaceship 3d previews

http://wiki.endless-space.com/factions/united-empire

>>161076739
>he doesn't play russia on cold weather maps

but yeah the increasing district cost is bullshit. makes any city after your 10th almost useless.

Why is there only 1 game appearing when I look for multiplayer games in Civ 6, even stellaris has like 100 games

>>161121837
Weird. It says there are 38,000 people playing right now on Steam

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>>161083784
>>161083469
Sometimes it feels like they wrote the formorian quest stuff for different factions entirely

Can we agree that for all the game's faults, Sogno di Volare is a top tier main theme?

>>161084995
I always felt like wild magic, grey guard, explorer and partisan were kind of awful.

>>161122818
I don't like it as much as Baba Yetu and I didn't even really like Baba Yetu

>>161122818
I think it's great, but it doesn't have the same kind of "global" feel that Baba Yetu has.

Why are all the female Civ VI leaders so fugly, even Disney knows how to create attractive cartoon waifus.

In Stellaris, how do you guys name your species?

I'm having trouble coming up with something simple, yet unique and meaningful.

It's been eating at me all day.

>>161127783
http://fantasynamegenerators.com/alien-names.php

>>161120365
Well that sucks.

>>161127868
These aren't meaningful, though; they're just gibberish.

I'm not ungrateful, though; there's stuff on that site I can use later.

Thanks!

Maybe a stupid question here. In Civ 6, when placing a district, do I want to place it on a shitty tile or a really good tile? Does a district overwrite the tile, or absorb it?

>TFW you're better at Stellaris than a YouTuber.

It feels GOOD.

>>161128840
The shittiest tile possible within reason. I'd rather have a +2 industrial district on desert tile than a +3 over my sheep bonus resource.

The district completely overwrites the tile except for whatever bonuses the district gives.

>>161129050

Sorta what I thought. Was trying to figure out how to beat the AI at immortal. I started with three sugar on swamp tiles my last game and I still couldn't keep up with the AI. Honestly. My starting city grew at break-neck speed and I still couldn't do shit.

>>161128907
>Implying GS takes skill

>>161129302
Let me have this, Anon, please.

What would you guys call a species of bipedal feloid aliens in the same vein as the Kzinti or the Kilrathi?

Everyone should have some form of a unique district with unique buildings in it. Wattashame

So what Civilizations are likely to be included in the DLC? Any chance of Byzantium coming back?

>>161129782
Probably Theodora, but as an alternate ruler for Rome

>>161130042
Well as long as I get her Naval power I'm good. Though I'd really love to see Ching Shih as an alternate for China.

>>161129782
Poland's all but officially the first (non-Aztec) DLC, with a Winged Hussar appearance in the opening and a whole set of themes for the eras + incidentals.

I'd be very surprised if many of the old standbys don't make it back, too, even for ones represented in vanilla by city-states.

>>161129702
Reference the Hindi Rakshasa, maybe?

Raksha? Rakshi?

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ANYONE WANT TO PLAY CIV OR HAVE A GROUP OR SOMETHING. I am a casual you can stomp and I don't like to minmax, but I am sick of the AI.

Who /bestempire/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTbS8BEa1oI

>>161126773
They designed them to be of average attractiveness to comply with the current political/social oddities prevailing in the west at the moment. One of the ladydevs spoke about it in a video. I had a look for the video, but can't find it, might have been a third party.

>>161131474
I actually really like the idea of making more people ugly in some games/shows but it doesn't square well with cartoony style and cartoony/innacurate history. They should just aim for aesthetically pleasing/fuckable as possible.

>>161132037
I find their reasoning on the ugly thing to be off the mark - leaders need to be charismatic, and a big part of that is attractiveness.

>>161129782
I want the Mongols just to shut down all the memers.

>>161132412
Is that really true? A lot of leaders were landed in the position and before television/pictures it didn't matter much to the average peasant. I don't know of many leaders who are ugly as sin, but I don't know many people who are ugly as sin either (there are a good many I can name who are below average) and some empires aren't accurate in their depictions of leaders.

>>161132412
>this could be the reason Alex didn't make the cut for launch

>Can beat civ 5 on diety
>getting my shit pushed in on prince in civ 6

why are there so many barb caps and barb troops in my cities REEEE

>>161127783
>>161128354
Depends on what type of species I'm playing as.

For example my current elf species are the Orion. Taken from the Orion Belt, my headcannon is that the reason we call it the orion belt is some far lost knowledge of the species that potentially had contact with far ancient humans or the people that seeded life on Earth.

For reptillian and mammalian species I use names that are similar to ancient species that have gone extinct, usually species that relate to the species I'm playing.

>>161133407
That first warrior you get is key to stopping getting overwhelmed early. Once you see a scout run off in a direction, you send your warrior that way and bash the camp's head in.

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>>161133407
Produce military units

>>161133494
So, for this: >>161129702?

Is >>161130638 on the right track?

>>161122419
>it's a Futurama joke

>>161129702
whatever those cat furries from master of orion are called

>>161133943
Yeah that's cool. What you find interesting is ultimatley up to you but I definitely have more fun when I use symbolism and stuff based in real world beliefs, mythologies, and religions.

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>>161130991

>go to play a game online
>it lets me join games in progress
>no option to filter these games from the list

Hahahahahahahah

Fuck

>>161134438
Which do you prefer, the use of 'Rakshi' for singular, plural, and adjective, or something more advanced like Raksha/Rakshan/Rakshani?

>>161129702
Mrrshan

I wish the 'elf' humanoids weren't so fucking goofy looking. They need to choose a better suite of clothes for them, and they definitely need better hair.

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What.

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How is this bitch not OP?

>>161139634
>The inherent weaknesses of naval combat in the current build.
>Lower emphasis on coastal cities
>Situational bonuses which are difficult to to take advantage of
>UU that must be built fresh, cannot be upgraded
That Scarborough Fair theme is GOAT though.

>>161135238
Raksha - singular
Rakshi - plural
Rakshan - adjective

>>161139828
I meant
>you cannot upgrade a unit into the UU
They can upgrade into Mech. Inf.

>>161139890
Why would you need to, when you get them for free?

>>161139634
>giving a shit about ships when you can't even blockade ports and fuck with people, and ports aren't all that great at all, because apparently being able to ship things by sea is meaningless and doesn't give any bonuses
>6 artifacts is kinda cool I guess but fits with none of her other bonuses at all

>>161139634
Cheaper trade routes is the only thing she has going for her

>>161110665
Armello

>Playing a GC3 game, get to be UP chair
>Propose a regulation that would double the tourism bonuses for all races
>Every major race votes against it despite me being the only race that actually makes a lot of money every turn
>a minor race decides to defy the UP, so the vote doesn't go through anyway
I think I'm starting to realize that money is barely a resource in this.

Has anyone gotten their Civ 6 Steam key revoked by GR yet?

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Why doesn't having a religion disable building science districts?

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>>161143394

>>161143394
Because Egyptians, Greeks and Romans believed in gods too. The dark ages was a collapse of the entire society as we knew it, stop pinning the blame on Christianism alone.

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>>161143394
Dibs bedora

>>161143394
Because China under Confucianism and the Islamic caliphates during the Dark Ages were happily advancing science and technology.

>>161077357
>Finland never
;_;

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This motherfucker slaps your city state's ass and he's 2 turns away from researching cossacks. He has 30 horsemen pre-built, along with 10 siege towers.

What is your response?

>>161077514

>Necro

30 corvettes by 2014 (give or take) are still possible. Preferably laser with armor and tech 2 engines. They are actually more cost effective than kinetics and have an easier time against the spaceport. Plutocratic oligarchy or Junta or MD.

If neighbours are ok just expand passively.

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>>161144268

I have already 60 Mamluks(out of my prebuilt Heavy Chariot) who are currently attacking his capital.

Psss, nothing personal, kid.

>>161144359

Scout early and dont attack advanced AI's. They will rape you vicariously. Im talking about on insanity ofc.

>>161130769
Which civ?

>>161077514

Purge fucking sucks! Either enslave or pick individualist trait and just live with them until the malus goes away. Adjust policies for greater compromise. With luck you can colonize a new set of worlds and your pop is equally good at all resources unlike fag slaves who just know how to pick resources right.

>>161144590

>*...slaves who just know how to pick minerals right

>>161144393
Jokes on you peter was on a different continent

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Press F to pay respects to the Cuban CIV Leader

>>161144268
This motherfucker slaps your capital's ass and forward settles you, stealing your luxury resource.

What do you do?

In Stellaris I have purging prohibited but one sector is still purging on one planet

what gives?

Is your spawn location in Civ VI based on the leader you pick? Both times I've rolled Victoria I've spawned on a fucking useless island with sparse luxuries and no other players, which kind-of plays into the England theme I guess but sucks balls.

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Is there a name for that architectural style? I kinda like it.

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Who the fuck balanced Civ 6?

Not even talking about the OP heavy/light cav compared to melee, but those civ boni.

Norway is so fucking shit, it hurts. In 40 mp games not a single person wanted to play Norway. We even voted for reroll when somebody got Norway.

>>161146623
The balance is terrible, look at Scythia. Norway is only strong in an island start, on a small map where you can get a strong longboat rush in. And in MP, this slight window of advantage can be nullifed by avoiding coastal city placement and relying on harbor districts.
The Norse and Americans need major buffs , Spanish too maybe.

>>161146497
Onion dome, Eastern Orthodox church architecture

>>161147540
That's really good looking.

>>161147645
What game is that by the way? Looks comfy af.

>>161147772
Cossacks remake on steam

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>>161147772
Cossacks 3.

Pretty fun base building, giant armies, and an AI that recently got nerfed and is barely a threat anymore.

To the left of the picture, there's a spearmen wall. When in a formation, they get +3 armor (that's big), and when standing still, they get fucking +9 armor, which stacks with their normal armor. Earlier, the Turks attacked the spearmen with normal men. Despite being outnumbered, I didn't lose a single man there. That's how powerful formations are.
Up there, is the strelets pack. They're musketeers. Extremely powerful against infantry because each one deals roughly 15 dmg. And a standard pikeman has 90 HP, so a pack like that drops everything instantly.

The one attacking are archers mercenaries. Normal units can't attack buildings, so I had to recruit them to remove kebab.

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N E W P A T R I O T S

>>161147981
What are those last two resources on the upper right?

>>161148119
Iron and Coal.
Yeah, I know iron looks like chunks of meat and I don't know why coal has to be mined even through you can transform wood into it, but that's how the game work.

It's pretty strange, now that I think about it. You can't hunt or raise cattle, the only source of food are fields and the sea.

>>161147981
I hope we get mods on par with the AOEII RPG ones

>>161144914
That's fine. Means my guys have less far to walk for that sweet 0 warmonger early war, right when the third or fourth archer finishes building.

>>161148008
https://soundcloud.com/flybyno/es2-united-empire

>>161148316
>AOEII RPG ones
Tell me more, I've been wanting to reinstall AoE2 HD for a while.

some1 want to join me in a game of civ5 i'm hosting.

>>161145928
yes. You can check the files, but IIRC Britan favors coast, Egypt desert, Brazil rainforest, Russia tundra, Scythia horses

In Stellaris, can I delete a colony somehow with a mod?

A new race just came up outside my borders and I forced them to cede their only planet.

Can I not delete a colony once it's empty of population?

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Sweet jesus.

>>161152775
BARBED

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hey guys is stellaris worth 26 dollars?
i need a game with lots of replayability.

should i get stellaris or rising tide?

>>161153824
>i need a game with lots of replayability.
Don't get Stellaris then.
The traits you pick only give your bonuses, they're not even good for RP purpose.

>>161153824
>Considering either
also, beyond earth is better without rising tide, seeing as that breaks it

Just picked up civ 6 in the Steam sale and what the fuck is with strategic view in this game. Civ V strategic view made the grid and spatial relations easier to see, Civ VI seems to have gone out of its way to fuck it all up and make it as obfuscated as possible.

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>>161153859
rising tide breaks BE? really? i heard it makes the game better, but raises other issues. pple say BE needs one more expansion to be really good

>>161153965
BE is trash
another expansion won't fix it

>>161153965
it has policy cards like civ6, and one is %5 of your treasury every turn as a bonus

And there's a wonder that gives you science based on treasury

>>161154072
but i like ocean stuff. i wann amke ocean bases and farm space whales and explore the ocean :(
>>161154102
are you talkinga bout the diplomacy tree?

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>>161115726
It's glorious. And the battle mechanics are very deep.

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>>161144895
[F]

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>>161147645

>>161130991
nice. endless space is a great series. i lov etheir races

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>>161153965
>rising tide breaks BE? really?
AI still goes crazy when alliances go to war.

>>161155017
the AI did that in civ V also, who cares. its not that big of a deal

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>>161154625

>>161152775
>nan madol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nan_Madol

p. cool

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>Start new ES2 game
>See this
Something doesn't quite add up

>>161156756
I don't get it.

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>>161156956
Hollow planet on a gas giant. Mainly due to hollow planet being caverns and such people can live in.

>>161157032
There are no sanity checks on anomalies. Pure random chance.

Report it to the devs, may they'll add incompatibilities.

>>161116598
>1990 or later victory
Or you could be China rushing Oracle and get it in 1300.

>>161157032
All gases can turn to solids
Who's to say there isn't solid forms of the gas underground

>play Civ 5 for the first time
>Play as Washington, was ok.
>Knock over the Iroquois
>Heavily injure Spain, Celtics, and Persia
>Racing Ottoman for Science
>Trying to stop Celtics Culture
>TURN 500
>You win, through score/time
>Click for one more turn to punish Spain
>Game continues for 92 more turns
>Spent the entire time shoving Missile Cruisers and Heavy tanks down everyone's throats for a Domination Victory

Holy fuck....Why does the "one.more turn thing" not mean ONE MORE TURN?

Also, how do you get the Science Victory? I had all the civic policies (on my 2nd future tech), i had all the shuffle parts and a spaceport in Washington and nothing happened...

>>161158157
These are the same people who think that charcoal is economically interchangeable with coal. Expect a low level of knowledge.

>>161139853
Thanks!

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>>161158157
Solid hydrogen can only exist at either 14K, a temperature one wouldn't really find on a gas giant, or under very extreme pressures that wouldn't really allow the solid metallic hydrogen to take any shape except flat ground slowly transitioning to liquid metallic hydrogen further up

>>161158167
Each spaceship part has a button that lets you add it to the spaceship. You just needed to press the button a couple times.

>>161132037
>I actually really like the idea of making more people ugly in some games/shows
That depends on what you're going for
If it's a 'gritty' game then for maximum immershun people need to be average and dirty or scarred for the most part by default, you can mod in perfect titties if you want but it shouldn't be default.
If you're going for simulation i.e. a GS game then it doesn't really matter so it's completely up to the developer.
If you're going for 'gamey' and 'cartoony' as Civilization VI is, then make everyone fucking amazing looking because why the fuck wouldn't you?

>>161158157
>>161159185
Most gas giants have solid metallic cores cmiiw fwiw

>>161153935
Was it cheap? I missed the gamestop one as the download was already out of stock on black friday. I'm thinking of buying it on amazon.de for 38 euro (hopefully I can install it in english), but I think it's a dvd instead of a steam code, and I have no compatible dvd player on this desktop anymore (except on a laptop, but I'm not sure if it works if I share the drive over the network).

>>161144071
>Confucianism
>religion
M8

>>161159442
I want Civ VII to be gritty and realistic, with world leaders appearing more scarred and mutilated based on how much I've fucked up their societies.

>>161159442
A thing to note though is that with the cartoony style the look of the female leaders does fit though, since they overemphasize certain features about them in relation to their character, like tomyris has a really strong jaw that helps emphasise her proud warrior queen personality, Catherine looks slimy as fuck and has a face that screams "do not trust me I am a plotting little cunt", Gorgo is similar to Tomryris with her prominent cheekbones and so on. Victoria looks condescending and smug as fuck and is actually more attractive than she was historically as she wasn't particularly amazing.

I think they did an overall pretty good job

Cleo is just a fucking melting wax sculpture though, although perhaps that's also appropriate as she also wasn't terribly amazing to look at if I remember my history right, she was just powerful, had big tits and applied makeup with a masonry trowel which was apparently all that mattered in those days.

>>161159761
>Adolf Hitler is now a leader
>looks like a Picasso painting

>Atahualpa is the Aztec king
>he appears beheaded

>>161159761
At that point you should just use portraits or a lifelike 3D.
Personally I prefer either portraits / actually realistic 3D like the intro movie for Civ V, or everyone being pretty good looking whether you go for anime style (just stop with this stupid pixar 3D shit honestly and get some good 2D animators, it's lighter on performance and probably looks better because you fucks obviously can't animate for shit) or Civ V style.

>>161160338
It doesn't really fit because they all look like garbage which doesn't mesh with the 'clean' and cartoony look they went for everywhere else. Everyone but Tomyris and Victoria looks like they're going to be a villain in a new pixar movie, while Victoria just looks like a background character.

>>161160340
>Changing Montezuma
I want to enslave leaders I beat.

Are national parks worth it? I'm 2 eras ahead from everyone else so I can lose some time making my cities ecological friendly while the atomic bombs and carriers are being built.

Can anyone post the layout for stacking all factories with 6 cities, please?

>>161159761

>Elizabeth's face is scarred to hell from smallpox
>the only part of Napoleon that appears above the bottom of the screen is from his nose upward

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>>161162929
I will cut you.

Endless Legend is on sale, can anyone tell me what DLC if any are worth it?

>>161163341
Manleteon pls go

Is it worth building an aqueduct if a city already has fresh water?

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>>161163341
This is the audience that shitty NASA quote was for.

>>161165108
>imgur
You could at least have renamed it.

>>161165297
I use that name to remember who it is in my folder. Otherwise it's 1480185455535 and it's between a picture of an anime girl crying and a picture of Bayonetta getting her delicated butthole rammed in by Samus using a strap-on.

Is Endless space 1 worth a buy? On sale right now. I know 2 is around the corner but kinda curious about it, is it pretty much Endless Legends in space?

>>161162246
please respond

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>>161165431
please don't tell us more

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>>161165740
this one?

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>>161074179
What the fuck am I suppose to do about this? I have 1/5 of the galaxy conquered and I still can't even come close to this power level.

>>161165906
I puked a bit in my mouth.

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>>161165906
wat

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>>161166084
no but thanks, made this.

>>161165108
I can't tell whether you're criticizing the comic or agreeing with it.

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>>161166721
Don't forget to play Germany while you do it

>>161166902
Started immortal with japan, fug.
Need to try Germany next thanks for the advice.

>>161166218
build more ship
stack shit like mutalisks to counter the retarded formations

>>161166721
You just made a triangle.

>>161167236
Yes.

>>161166740
I'm agreeing with it, but answering directly to >>161162929 woulda made it look like I was ganging up on him.

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Is it just me or does this motherfucker get additional bonuses? It's like his capital starts full of relics already.
I'm playing on Deity and he's hit the Atomic Age in both science and culture by 700 AD while the rest of the AI and I are in the late Industrial Age at best. And he does this every game I get him in.
What the fuck is going on? Why is he constantly snowballing so hard? No other AI I've seen does this.

>>161171403
He might have gotten lucky from goody huts? Perhaps he stumbled into a lot of eureka bonuses too.

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>>161171403
YEAH
YEEAAH
WE WUZ
WE WUZ DA KANGZ
YEAAAAAAH

I seriously have no idea, but even though Scythia and such are the strongest players, Kongo is stupid strong under AI

How do I deal with this epic crashing in VI that happens at the same turn every time

>>161171403
>It's like his capital starts full of relics already.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this was a thing, deity AI gets tons of free shit, so giving them free great works (that they have nowhere to put) makes sense.

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>playing Stellaris for the first time since buying it.
>Was a fool and bought it when it first came out because I don't have enough space games.

>Playing with hyperlanes only, because I like the restriction of pathways in a tactical sense, allows for galactic "beach heads" and other things.
>4 armed galaxy, started near the end of one arms, probed out until I finally bumped into one of the other empires.
>Let them do the research to discover me while I go ahead and plop an outpost right next to them
>as soon as they discover me, close the boarders.
>Pretty much gated off a huge section of the arm for unrestricted expansion, and my empire has a booming industrial base by the time they're still trying to get their second and third starting planets.

>Other side of the galaxy arm is blocked off by three solar systems with 1K+ AI hostile mobs, serving as a galactic equivalent of the "Alps", nobody can set foot in those solar systems without getting reckt.

>Everything's going fine and dandy
>An enemy empire pops up on the other side of the "alps"
>Declares war literally one month after discovery
>sends a 1k fleet (even though they only had one planet) through the "alps".

>Ends up hostile AI mobs only attacks player characters
>The impossible sized for early game fleet goes by completely unmolested and destroys everything.
>can't even counter attack because the AI in the "Alps" will only fuck me up and gives free passage to AI empires.

fuck

>>161172042
That reminds. Did they added nebulaes, asteroid fields, and black holes in Stellaris yet? I remember Distant Worlds having these.

>>161172206
Black holes just act as stars
Nebulae doesn't make sense in context, they'd just be the entire system.
Asteroid fields would anger the casuals.

>>161172395
So no system that slows your shit down or anything?

>>161172560
nebulas do, they slow ftl travel and restrict sensor range.

But since the game is so slow you're usually playing on a maxed accelerated time frame anyways so you don't really feel the difference.

>>161172560
Black holes don't slow your shit down to begin with and if they do then that's scientifically bullshit, since at normal distances they literally act like a star. If the sun got replaced with a one solar mass black hole (who knows how it formed), the earth would freeze but it wouldn't have a disturbed orbit or get ripped apart.
The reason black holes have such strong gravity is because you can get infinitely close to their center of mass, and gravity gets four times stronger every time you halve the distance.

No, nothing slows you down. Stellaris is shit.

>>161172734
Ha, so there's is the space equivalent of a swamp.

But no asteroid field? No mines?

>>161172734
Since when the fuck does Stellaris have nebulae?

>>161172814
since literally forever

>>161172907
Oh wait they're the huge blobs that cover the galaxy right?
Yeah I forgot about them because they do literally nothing and are never relevant

>>161171689
Maybe, but like I said it's every game with him.
I've seen OP civs like Germany and Scythia snowball that hard but I've also seen them get absolutely crushed.
But not Mvemba. I've played 5 or 6 Deity games with him and every single time he's just miles ahead of anyone else, even in science which he shouldn't have an edge in.
At this point I just really want to know why Kongo of all civs is constantly doing this well.

>>161172990
exactly.

Has anyone tried enslaving primitives early on in Stellaris? I just played a game where I'd just land armies on primitive worlds and conquer/enslave the population, still needed some influence to do it, but I didn't have to pay for colony ships early on, just for three assault armies. I felt like I got a huge boost not only for the industrial base I got for a planet full of slaves, but because I could easily colonize another type of planets early on.

>>161103564
so if you focused on space battles for the whole game and need to do an invasion, you can quickly spit out a shitty invasion module fitted ship and put it in fleet so the whole fleet gets the benefit?

>>161144571
Civ 6, sorry for the late reply.

>>161173419
if they're an industrial civilization or higher you can full reptilian and infiltrate their government, subvert it, and then have them hand it over to you all it costs is the price for the observation outpost and maybe a few years.

Technically the cheapest way, but it's a long time consuming process.

>>161173419
yeah it's a good strategy especially if you combine it with full ethics divergence and/or happiness. So spirtitualist autocratic government that gives a huge boost to ethics divergence plus spirtualist plus xenophobic for symbol of unity and symbol of purity plus militarist for virtual combat arena

>>161174396
Is there any way to get the governor to build or at least keep those buildings in sectors? It seems as soon as I build happiness/ethics divergence buildings, the AI instantly destroys them when it takes over the sector, unless I turn off land redevelopment.

>>161174658
you can build them yourself and then set your sectors to not tear down already built buildings however I don't believe sectors build them on their own.

>>161174740
That's probably my most hated thing about sectors, unless I fully plan and build the planet myself, the governor will always seem to fail to build in any sort of efficient manner. It's worst because sometimes the need changes (Such as times when the empire is unhappy), so I'd have to go unsector things, build the right stuff, and resector them.

>>161174905
someone posted a slightly indepth analysis in a previous thread a few days ago but apparently building a mine or power plant is more effecient than building a happiness building.

In the end the happiness boost to production doesn't outdo just straight up building another mine or power plant so that's why sectors don't build them. The problem is sectors aren't taking into consideration the fact that unhappy pops, especially conquered ones, will rebel and join factions

>>161167005
does stellaris even have any aoe weapons
arc whatevers say they bounce but i've never seen them actually do so

>>161173814
>tfw I don't have 6 so I can't help you out

I'm upset.