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I'm thankful for Awoo telling me to do my best!

DCSS 0.19 Tournament is over! Congratulations to team /rlg/ for an impressive 31st place!
http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.19/

>Oook.cz Poschengband Comp
>(Shadow Fairy Swordmaster who starts with a Rune Sword in inventory, yes easy_lore and easy_id are on)
http://angband.oook.cz/competition.php?showcompo=197

>Nethack annual DevNull tournament is running until the end of November
http://nethack.devnull.net/

>IA 19.0 beta (9b12edf) Windows - with level-up crash fixed!
http://www20.zippyshare.com/v/SLn9DYZx/file.html

>Shared DCSS online account.
User: rlgrobin
Password: ownfault (or "robin" on CXC).
Remember, it's not fun if you didn't splat hard!

>FAQ and What to Play
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to Play?: http://pastebin.com/yfUKx35f

>Individual Game Pastas
http://pastebin.com/nXBycdgR

>Previous thread:
>>160879078
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Is there a free as in freedom version of Nethack for Android? I can't find one on f-droid but I refuse to use any of Google's services (including the play store and Google Services).
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>>161024640
There is one on google play.
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>>161024640
is there a free as in freedom ssh app on android? because you could just play nh through that
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>>161024813
Shit you're right.
First I'll need to find out how to configure my VPN so that I can SSH into the computer from other networks...
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>>161024987
or just use one of the public ssh servers such as the one at nethack.alt.org
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>>161024987
or you could just get the APK for the free one on the play store.
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>>161025164
>Games on this server are recorded for in-progress viewing and playback!
> required sign-up for a singleplayer game
Nah. I want to access my computer remotely anyway so I might as well use SSH to play nh on there.
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Lift your bandaged fists like antennae 3 to the D:1 staircase.
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>>161024640
>refuse to use google's services
>including the one where you literally get all the apps
autism
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How's Usk for SpEn? I've tried a lot of deities for that combo, but have never got through the Vault. Usk looks rather good.
The ones I've tried
>Dith
Very good
>Sif
Most effective thus far, have got all the spells I've needed, can easily stomp thru the Lair and Mines, and at least one Lair branch
>Nemlex
Great fun, but there's a sinking feeling that the decks aren't going to be useful later on
>Kiku
Bleh because I've not figured out how to combine Necromancy spells with stabbing
>Jivya
Tricksy.
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>Get some early +0, 1d2 greaves
>2 floors slater, Sploosh
>-1, 1d2
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>>161027339
> sacrificing your freedom for video games
autism

The dude that made the Play Store app put his source and the apk on github so I downloaded that and it's great now. My current ranger is surviving.

Question:
> kill hobbit
> find cloak of inivisibility
> put cloak on
> now invisible
> walk a couple steps
> suddenly turned into a rat
> cloak is gone
What the fuck happened?
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i started a bard in incursion and i got a free ally to start with

he fell into the first pit trap and died trying to get out
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I found three forges with three uses each on the first floor, and I'm a smithing character with 12 smith.

I have the abilities to make boots of speed(armor, enchant) but no other abilities. What do I make? Only 500 exp.
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>>161029358
Words cannot describe the happiness I felt when I was reunited with my dog that fell through a trapdoor.
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ok i have a new slave already

that human guy sucked anyways, he picked up and drank a healing potion i wanted
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>>161028061
>Dith
Your best option.

>Sif
Good, not great.

>Nemelex
They nerfed him so hard that it is completely pointless to play him at all. Don't bother, avoid like the plague.

>Kiku
There isn't a way to combine them. Why did you try.

>Jivya
slimes will eat your fucking spellbooks

Usk is not that great for you. Ukelele wants you to deal damage to enemies on every turn, which is the opposite of what you do(cast spell for no damage, instakill). She will be completely, utterly worthless to you.

If you REALLY need a god besides Dithmenos, Elyvilon will help keep you alive, Zin or Yredelemnul can give you "i don't want to die" panic buttons, Ashenzari can give you forewarning of where your enemies will be(useful for stabbing), Gozag can net you sweet gear and/or panic buttons, Hepliaklqana will give you a hexing buddy that is almost as good at hexing as you are, Ru will improve your defenses.
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>>161029189
are roguelike players all stallman clones?
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>>161029807
Aight, I'll try Dith for my next run. Followup question: how to use Dith properly?
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>>161028061
>>161029807
>>161029920
Theres quite a few gods that are good for SpEn, and ill name them and explain some stuff, as the other anon before me did the same i have quite some experience with SpEn
Ignore most of the caster ones like sif and veh for example, its pointless to worship them
>dith
Dith is pretty nice, it is the one true stealth/stabber god and gives you lot of mobility and escape mechanisms when you find yourself in some sticky situations
>nemelex
As the anon stated, if youre playing on newer versions, just dont.. Its been nerfed a lot and not much to do now with it, in older versions its pretty good
>kiku
Kiku is great, offers you nice transition into mid/late with pain branding, free books to access some nice spells like bolt of draining and such and protects from miscasts/curses/whatever the fuck every now and then, ive had most success with kiku in my runs just because he offers that versatility to use really nice aptitutes the Sp has to transition well later on into the game
>jivya
Haha, no
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>>161028061
Dunno about Usk.
Personally I've always been great fan of Ashenzari - although I prefer starting my stabbers as assassins.
Or berserkers, funnily enough, although Troggin' it up gets difficult in extended.
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>>161030240
Fuck i forgot to mention a few because im sleepy and tunnel visioned, sorry.. I forgot to mention
>oka
Oka is also a nice one to use, gives you nice abilities to increase your everything, including stealth, and gives nice gifts, obviously
>ash
Ash is also a cool one, especially as a Sp since you dont change your equipment often and can use the curse bonuses quite effectively and you cant wear that many stuff as well like other races, so thats a bonus as well
>gozag
Gozag is one of those special ones, since you dont eat meat, you fully utilize the bonus gold from corpses you even get gold if you drown the body or burn it in lava via confuse for example so yey so you can summon shitton of shops whenever you need
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>>161028061
Sif's more for making sure you get OOD or Servitor and iron shot
You can deck through Zot:5.
Necro's mostly as an alternative once stealth begins to die. You can deliver twice and animate in a pinch. When it's not you can use simalcrum, animate skel, and animate dead to help you.
Jiyva's kind of hit and miss but being able to slime ALiches and shit in a pinch when your stealth fails

>>161029189
Polymorph can drop or destroy your armor. check your message log, you probably ate a poly trap

>>161029390
Follow the pastebin. It's find of fucked you over because you don't have the xp to make a lot of use out of it even if you have your forge order lined out.
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Fusion Blaster Arm CBM any good?
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>>161032920
No. You need your second hand too much. Save a couple up for a fusion blaster rifle when you get lab journal herra
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>>161033214
Will do. On that note, Elf-A mutation tree (heh) any good?
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>>161033272
Pretty good. Keep in mind vomitous is a pest, radioactivity will confine you to a radsuit, and you can't purify once you get a +stat mutation IIRC cause it bugs and you permanently lose the stat or whatever go ahead and make a copy and do 5 or 6 runs with a ton of serum to test it out. Otherwise it's not the worst you could aim for.
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>>161033545
What are the arguably/subjectively best/worst mutation trees available?
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>starve to death and die to a porcupine I'm trying to eat
fuck this gay earth
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>>161033545
>you can't purify once you get a +stat mutation IIRC cause it bugs and you permanently lose the stat
That's just the alpha prime mutations, I think.

>>161033626
Medical has some op stuff like pain immunity and extra hp, but it also has some really annoying mutations, so I'd hesitate to recommend it in terms of enjoyability.

I suspect fish is secretly pretty good with minimal drawbacks, but I haven't recently played long enough to go full deep one.
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Lads the time has come for the semi-annual virtual divegrass competition!
Various generals of /vg/ will compete against each other for >fun and bragging rights.

The /vg/ League 7 Qualifiers are this weekend beginning tomorrow, and /rlg/ is playing the following teams at the following times.
/sog/ Steel Ocean Admiral General - Friday, 18:30 UDT
/acg/ Animal Crossing General - Saturday, 18:00 UDT
/ss13g/ Space Station 13 General - Sunday, 18:30 UDT
These games will be streamed on the cup shitbox which you can find on the links I will give to you.

>What the fuck are you rambling on about?
implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page
implyingrigged.info/wiki//rlg/

>Sounds autistic as fuck
Wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
>Fuck off
No u

If you have any more questions I'm here to provide answers.
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>>161035772
wow already? I remember that sigmund header from 2 tourneys ago like it was yesterday
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>>161035772
also imo a player should be Rodney or The Wizard of Yendor, maybe over, oh I dunno, Dicksman unless he reappears to prove existance
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>>161035772
>thumbnail isn't transparent
neck yourself, if you're too retarded to do one of the simplest tasks possible, you're too retarded to host a divegrass tourney
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Lair or D:11 on trunk
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>exploring the bottom of icky caves
>get destroyed by two time breaths out of nowhere
T-thanks chronomage.
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>>161037015
What do you mean not transparent?
I'm just the manager of this team, not the host of the whole tournament. Someone else higher on autism ladder does that.
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>>161030081
please stop posting things like this
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what the SHIT
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>>161033626
They all have iffy stuff so you kinda just gotta pick your poison and hope the RNg doesn't shit on you. As always, robust genetics is heavily recommended. Often times I'll just get a bunch of whatever mutations and just call it good enough

>>161037894
>That deep
>No detection
All you
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>>161038681
I've never made it to D14 and this is scaring me
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>>161039095
>>161038681
I never saved it, but I remember an anon posting a screenshot of him teleporting into LOS of like seven or eight sphinxes and other assorted nasties in a small room. Be glad you're not dealing with that.
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>>161038681

>actually unironically using polearms
>on a formicid
>firefox

TRIPLE MADMAN
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>>161039473
I had to run from an iron troll to D15 and now I'm shitting myself
Don't bully I don't know how to play videogames okay
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why are a tyrannosaurus and a medusa just chillin' on a floating island in the middle of a cave
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>>161037894
lol, saved
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If I could only tickle one (1) tummy, I would choose yours, /rlg/.
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>>161040038
because they're stuck, duh
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>>161040704
Only if you tickle it from the inside, baka
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Fuck, though fog stops monster targetting.

note: I teleported, but it teleported me into the same room, but slightly to the left.
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>>161040998
>though
*thought
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Wrong neighborhood, cunt.

Hill Orc Wanderer.
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>>161040998
fog has to kick in. It's iffy. What you should have doen was abyss yourself
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>>161041821
I was retarded and had an amulet of guardian spirit rather than the superior amulet of reflection.

Drained my MP, when I went to gate myself, then I knew how much I fucked up.
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>>161040998
monsters can't target you if they can't see you (and you can't see them, since LOS is reciprocal)
fog blocks sight IF there are 2 or more clouds between you and the monster.
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>>161041962
>not Harm
you would have splatted anyway
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>>161041962

>he fell for the guardian spirit meme

good riddance for bloat users
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>>161042481
It's an amazing amulet up till the moment it's insufficient. Much like the shield of the gong, hat of double turn torment+high roller hellfire, maxwell's coffin, and the axe of Oklobitis
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>>161042548

Yes, I agree. It's a very amazing and optimal amulet with a separate regen mechanic that gives you additional HP! Only a fool would not wear this very optimal amulet amirite lads?
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>>161030240
>>nemelex
>As the anon stated, if youre playing on newer versions, just dont.. Its been nerfed a lot and not much to do now with it, in older versions its pretty good
Nemelex is anything but bad, the decks are even seperated into shit(escap,destruction) and good decks(summoning) automatically now.

Summoning decks by themselves can carry you all the way throughout the game, they're incredibly strong.The only slight debuff is that he uses invocations now, instead of evocations,.
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So it looks like I haven't been here in... four years. Has anything worthwhile happened to Cataclysm since then?
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>>161045073
they added nutrient deficiencies and mandatory laundry washing
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>walk into town in Elona
>Something is killed
>something is killed
>don't pay any attention
>finally it's happening literally every turn
>turn the corner
>the entire east side of town is literally mobbed with monsters on every square
>start blasting my way through
>lol just kidding <Kings> and Mass Monsters infinite summoning
>keep blasting my way through
>literally takes me an hour to clear these shits out
>find a massive pile of loot in the centre of the mob
>Some dumbass adventurer was walking around with an item with the attribute 'Attracts Monsters' and just killed half of Palmia

And now I'm worried that there's civvies who got alien raped, and I'm going to come back to even worse shit in a few days. Should I just shove poison down every NPC's throat to be safe?
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>>161045531
Just kill everyone and work off the karma loss.
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>>161045531

You already have a weapon that can proc Ragnarok right? Enclose you and your pet in a 4x1 space by using Create Wall. Hit your pet multiple times with it (2-3 times if your pet is bad) until it procs, rest to restore HP. Don't forget to buy lots of food/cargo food until you wait for 100 or so turns for the dragons and shiet to clear the entire town. Would take some more time if it's somewhere large like Palmia
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>>161046678

This would prevent karma loss btw iirc
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>>161046678
Wouldn't that get you a fuckload of ether mutations?
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Assgut.
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>>161047124

Not at all.
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>>161047606
Quadruple lightning bolt on fault on nagas shit movement speed. What are the odds, pretty decent, id say.
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>try ironshot vs orbs of fire
>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss
>out of mana
such a great spell
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>>161047606
>XL11
>D:12
You should know that D.11 is where you stop
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>>161048235
you are supposed to use a hasted servitor
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>>161048316
'Prior to 0.14 the Lair's entrance was located on D:8-13.'
Was operating on old knowledge. Only started playing again recently after a long, long hiatus.
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>>161048505
Then you are in for a lot of disappointment
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>beating the greater hell beast to death with a 1d3 pick and wearing the randart shirt because it's better than any armor so far
Tonberry diggermaster, no sense of right or wrong
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>>161048235
Gud spellpower m8....
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>>161049197
the one true digmaster race is dwarf, you infidel
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>>161048793
Nemelex was fun once, rip in pieces.
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>>161030081
Pls explain how tummy fetishism relates to roguelikes?
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>>161049859
please dont say "t*mmy"
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>>161049859
It's non-modal, for one thing
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>tfw Demon game got fugged over by computer randomly restarting

>>161049859
It is not.

I can believe that I am seeing this general going through the same sort of decay that other ones have gone through on here. I haven't been on here for that long but it has decreased in quality.
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>>161049938
WHY IS THIS THE CASE?
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Okay that's pretty cool.
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I COME TO REACH THE DARKEST LEVEL
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS
I REALIZE I LIVE A NIGHTMARE, WHEN I THOUGHT IT WAS A DREAM
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>>161050228
don't worry you resist cold, I'm sure you can take him on

unless he still can cast air strike
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>>161050080
What in the world am I looking at?
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>>161050442
This is a dead character, I blinked to the downstairs and escaped but died to dumb things later
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>>161050509
Looks like it has a tavern thread.
https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21725
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>>161049859

tum-based game
non-modal
complexity
resource/tummy management
hack'n'massage
exploration and discovery
tactical challenge when massaging/pounding tummy
numbers = tummy meter is represented by numbers
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>>161051719
please stop, i've already masturbated today
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around mummies

pound their tummies
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>install unnethack
How does it differ from nethack, is it any good and what am I in for?
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>>161051845
Aye aye!
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>>161051885
>How does it differ from nethack
https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/UnNetHack#Changes_from_NetHack_3.4.3

>is it any good
No

>what am I in for
Wishing you just played vanilla instead.
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>>161050007
shortly after Uskayaw the Reveler (a god of dancing) was added to DCSS, some pedoanon posted pic related with the filename "high priestess of uskayaw" and talked about her tummy

some other anon correctly pointed out that everyone who unironically uses the word "tummy" is a creepy pedo

as a result the next 3ish threads were filled with ironic tummyposting to troll him
but rlg is full of autistic retards (why else would they play roguelikes?) and the ironic tummyposting soon gave way to real tummyposting
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>>161052086
>uninstalled unnethack
I trust your judgement, anon
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>>161052769
dynahack is good
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I... I splatted just 10 (ten) turns after getting a Hat of Pondering
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>>161052558
I seriously doubt it was ever "ironic." Also, that image was reposted in thread after thread until that very incident. In a way, it's a forced meme.
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Neat

Now to stop pushing my luck and go lair
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>>161053238
some anons haven't even splatted one (1) tum
you should consider yourself lucky, nonwizardanon
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Hello fellow elona players, dropping by from /jp/ to share a bit of custom content I made, possibly to your benefit. Instructions on instillation included inside!

>https://www.mediafire.com/?i18wzpqaoisce6q

It's my latest project and perhaps one of the more ambitious ones: a fully populated city map I've been working on since October. Using tricks I learned from Melugas Airfield, I've been able to work around the default NPC cap in order to further flesh out the denizens, though I can't help but feel that sections of it are still a bit thin in population (this is because of the hard limit on neutral (non-talkative) NPCs I cannot work around at the moment; those that spawn in the initial map generation eat into the object limit, while those that spawn afterward are restricted to what comes out of a mysterious diary, so there are far less mercenaries and travelers that equivalent cities like Ol-dran). Had to modify the roadways a bit to keep the citizens from excessively jay-walking in front of the imaginary traffic (made me wish this game had a zoning system like Dwarf Fortress), but I think that improved the aesthetics in the end. For this map, I've used the hidden editor in order to access otherwise off-limit tiles and place neutral NPCs that would be impossible to via diary.
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>>161053457

What's more, for those willing to delve into technical nitty-gritty, I've included experimental files to modify a specific map into existence - a map that's intractable outside of showroom limitations, complete with a brief experiment in action: whether it's possible to transfer soul spindles without gene inheritance, and if soul spindles will work in such circumstances, especially against targets with a less than "Soul Mate" relation. In layman's terms, it's a free pet (the answer to the above is "yes"). Having to edit it entirely using in-game means, I used Houzanha to mix up the tiles a bit, and a Flower Coral to add in the lake, sculpting the map into a small mining town via digging and wall conjuring. As before, entities were spawn using excessive mysterious diaries.

And for those who wish to see my other works:

>CNPC Pack 1.2 (Req. 1.62 or higher) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/kd6dym5txs445bo
>Blades Inc. (Level 40 Adventure) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/u31fi1a1i0bhmzd
>Melugas Airfield (Level 120 Adventure) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/avghxk81eo9bge9

Have a good night, everybody!
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>quick blade (speed)
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>>161053827
>girl (female)
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>>161053827
i don't understand why there's a minimum weapon attack speed in the first place

just let qblades have their finesse and speed brand
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Well.

Why is this run so lucky.
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>>161054641
Is that a new Vault? It looks kinda neat.
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>>161054720
Quite a bit deadly actually, if I werent a stealth dude it'd be terrible.

Hydras + polar bears + ice drakes + sirens + dire elephant
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>>161053827
>{{
do you actually have toi xv each flying weapon to see what it is
that god sounds like a huge pain in the ass on console
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>>161049998
/rlg/ has decayed in some ways, and gotten better in others.

I don't notice as many multi-thread barfights between faux-anonymous manbabies anymore.

A big part of it is that roguelikes are stale as fug. We're still playing games from decades ago because nothing new is worth playing and discussing.
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>>161054641
Thats the stuff.

Now to add all those +weapon scrolls to it and laugh all the way through vaults.
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>>161055117

But there are tons of enjoyable and addicting games. Roguelikes are just one of them
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>>161054540
Agreed. The minimum attack speed is ancient and the fear of finesse QBs being too powerful is kind of silly.

>>161054890
I actually have no idea how to find out which weapon is which. I don't think xv tells you. They keep the same colour which is the main thing.

I'd recommend trying it out, he's pretty fun.
>unlimited free awesome weapons, many speed branded with huge boost to cross-training so that you can use them
>offhand punch with any one-handed weapon
>cool new techniques like Sil-flanking, lunging, and jumping over people's heads and slashing them
>animated weapon bros for tough fights
>slow and paralyze guys when using the movement techniques
I haven't used his final ability yet, but so far he seems like everything Uskayaw should have been. His only downside is that he's kind of complicated at first glance.

I guess it's a "They" technically. Well I guess they are up on CBRO.
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>>161055587
Sure, but this is roguelike general.
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Yeah, basically Uskayaw except good.
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>>161056779
But Usk is good just on diesel races.
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>>161056779
>God that is just returning Tukima's dance and weapon throwing to the game
Hue
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>>161056779

Can you grab that +6 lajatang of slicing for an extended period of time even after the council gets disinterested and grab another weapon once a better one shows up? Will your original weapon disappear?
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How come ghouls never get any love?
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>>161057009
Usk can be strong, but is piss poor design IMO. Mainly because of pain bond+paralysis.
>>161057161
No, basically they have a duration as long as you're fighting. If you stop hitting stuff, the laj will disappear and your normal weapon will come back to your hands.
Weird shit happens if you leave a floor with your "real" weapon on it and come back later.
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>>161057464
Yeah design wise it's kind of blegh

>>161057219
It's not a commonly recommended race and its bonuses aren't as obvious so it's passed up for other with tighter apt niches
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Things were going really well with my third character. I saved the game with S and shut down my PC.
I went to continue this morning. Opened up nethack. The game prompted me for class, race and gender as always when starting a new game. WHERE IS MY OLD CHARACTER?
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>>161057902
Maybe check http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Saving
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>>161057682

>Yeah design wise it's kind of blegh

Oh yes, /rlg/ will always like INTERESTING AND TACTICAL AND TEDIOUS mechanics/ gods like this. Lots of keypresses, lots of muh tactics, lots of options, these tedium really tingles your tummy huh?
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>>161058031
I'm playing on Linux, I didn't specify a name in both cases so the name was the same when saving / trying to load.
I may have been a dumbass and forgotten that I played on my phone instead of the pc last night. Maybe I should have slept more.
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>Find an amulet that gives immunity to disease
>Find an arachnid lair with loads of special corpses
>Playing an orc

I got like 5 stat ups and a fuckload of resistances.
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>unreal world
>play an hour
>realise you spawned without an axe
What do?
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>>161058727
Trade all your clothing for axe in a village duh
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>>161058727
Do the turorial missions for a free axe
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>>161058627
is there any reliable way to deal with diseases early on, other than getting a lucky amulet?

i want to play a gourmand orc but having to rely on item rng seems kind of shitty

i think paladins get the ability to cure disease at level 3, and there are a few gods who will cure diseases but i don't really know what the fuck i'm doing with gods or how they work yet
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>>161059017
If you play a druid you get the wilderness lore skill, which improves your roll whenever you eat a corpse for not getting diseased. Aside from that I don't know, I'm pretty new to Incursion.
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>play draconian mage
>go downstairs
>ogre next to you
>go upstairs
>ogre follows you
>fight ogre
>ogre kills you from 36hp with one hit
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>>161059429
and this is why you get stealth
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>>161059429

Perhaps you should have played an ogre and spent the early game grinding on draconian mages.
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Useless elf.
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my ranger started with a wand of dragon summoning
pretty cool except
>if the summon is too high level it will be hostile
ffffukc
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>>161060153
>started with
Random starting equipment?
Also don't wands in 3.5e have a limit on what kind of spells they can store?
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>>161060387
i don't know if there's a limit but you need to pass a Use Magic Device check to actually zap it

i'm not going to try this one because i would inevitably die to a super-ood hostile dragon
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>>161043042
Which is huge for a Sp, since he has a -1 exp apt and needs to get as much out of what he can use as an En, meaning that he cant waste xp on invo like that
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>>161043042
>use summoning deck
>hostile whatever
>you die
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Vaults loot is absolute shit, but I dont think I need good loot at this point.
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I am rich baby, bastard has clothing and weapons on him, maybe I could buy a cow now. There was a chance of him one shotting me
>>161060153
Thats actually a bullshit warning, hostile summons are not implemented so its safe to use unless you hit your summons afterwards making them hostile.
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>>161053238

YEEESSS I FOUND IT AGAIN AHAHA JUST WHAT ARE THE ODDS
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ok but what IS the blessing
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>>161053238
>>161062369
Ponderhat is kinda mediocre my dude. Not sure why you're getting excited.
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>>161062421
ponderhat is literally a noob trap and WILL ALWAYS get you killed
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>>161062623
Its only good on chei worshippers, thats about it
Or if you combine them with running shoes to negate the pondering effect but even then lol
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>>161062623

Uuuhhh, I don't think a a mere 1 aut increase of movement speed will do anything to my gazillion of experiences with Chei at 20-30 auts per tile
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>>161062623
That's going a bit far, but it's certainly not good.
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>>161062623
you're a noob trap
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>>161062369
Pretty high?

>>161062623
If a rare double move kills you, you were already playing so recklessly that something else would have even if you didn't wear it. It's a great boost for casters and it keeps the less fey races from getting paracucked, blown out by mark, and other pesky mr checks
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>>161059017

Play a orc monk and get to the level when monks turn immune to disease, laugh at the world and eat everything from that point on - bonus points for worshipping immotian and donating all the filthy magic items to him as you go along.
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A bit fuckin stiff innit, Xel?
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guys
get this
what if
speed quickblade with hastefinesse and no min delay literally 0 aut attacks
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>>161063487
>upon reaching sixth level
that shit's way too slow mang

also somehow i think the super-strict lawful good god wouldn't be happy with his worshipers eating corpses
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>>161064117
Assuming Haste and Finesse stacked, that would give you 0.7 aut attacks.
They don't though so you'd get 1 aut attacks.
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Lets do this shit.
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>>161065364
Whats that 3rd weapon in your inv?
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Woo.

Demonspawn assassin.

Mutations:
Sturdy Frame (useful early game, not that useful late game)
Spines (surprisingly useful, especially against bees/shrikes/pack assholes)
Demonic Guardian (always a pleasure)
Robust (boring but unbelievably useful)
Hooves (who cares)

>>161065817
Bloodbane, artifact demon blade. I never used it.
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>>161064117
guys
remember how in older DoomRL regeneration happened on every player action, not after cooldown?
but
if player action costs <1 aut (0.1s) there's a roll for it to costs 0 or 1.
and
if it costs 0 - regeneration does not apply.
so
if you pull the trigger of regenerationg gun fast enough it can run out of ammo!
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Onward to the 100 Max MP: The Dream
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does Mo starting piety work with Ru?
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>>161067016
instead of bonus piety, Mo worshiping ru get an immediate first sacrifice opportunity

so you don't get any *more* piety than a non-monk, but you get to start chopping hands off sooner
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>>161066936
>those tiles
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>>161052086
why do you think UnNetHack is bad?
how is it worse than NetHack? pretty much every nh fork adds more stuff and improves whatever retarded design choices original nethack devs made

unnethack and dyna are pretty much the best that could ever happen to that shit game
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>>161067492
Not him but yeah, the salt area has some crappy tiles
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Perfectly balanced encounters.
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so
dynahack
unnethack
or just nethack 3.6.0?
>inb4 slex
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>>161068364
Just roll a d6 and play one of 4, dyna, un at random.
'hacks have very little variation between them and generally suck after you win (but before you win).
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>>161068479
The Amy has ascended dyna and 4, and it was mind-numbingly boring. Imagine how much greater the boredom would be if she played those variants again! SLEX is the only non-boring variant where you haven't seen everything after you ascended once. :)
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Just fucking kill yourself you absolute retard.
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>>161067851

vaults are serious business CR-wise, you should probably make a mental note and return much later in your progression
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>>161069060

This is a no bully zone
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>>161070702
Yeah, I was never going to tangle with that ever; I lost one or two high-level duders to Narzugons. Not even sure their death gaze checks any saves.

Also, what do rogues use to kill dudes in the end-game? Dex draining sblades or something?
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>>161070939
Rogues use wands You have 18 luck right?. Backstabbin is pretty fucking shit considering that you are exposed after first attack and lower levels tend to be an all out fight between everyone so some fag mage will cast light spell negating your stealth.
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>>161068364
Dynahack or nethack4
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>>161072459
I had 26 luck before I died.
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The link for elona in the pastebin is dead. I found another download but it would open then crash. Can anyone help me find a decent download?
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>>161072639
Check the /jp/ thread. You want to play Elona+ or the Elona+ custom fork they made recently by the way
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>>161072917
And roll a snail tourist because that's the best combo in the entire game. Snail can get incredible amounts of speed and the tourist's class feat just plain rocks, too.
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>>161072973
>tfw just zooming around selling cargo
>tfw you grow 4 hands and 3 arms for rubynus gloves and tonfa cheese
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>>161072459
Also, I suspect the better way to go about sneak attacks is with an ally of some flavour. Last I read you get the bonus if one of your allies is adjacent your target. I was planning on doing that with Xel's plants but EIGHTY MANA for one fucking altar.
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>>161073079
I don't think there are actual plants from Xel worship, but yeah you get flanking attacks if you have ally on another side of enemy like this A-E-@. Lots of trouble and you cant even backstab most powerful shit like undead and demons.
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>>161070939

Ah, sorry for the late reply but I won a rogue with hide in plain sight - you can deal really high damage on the initial burst and then restealth, and then you have the potential for high use magic skill for hilarious results like the picture
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>>161073363
Verdant Aid gets you a plant with CR equal to your level.
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>>161073751
My bad,but there is a issue of it being favour level 7 spell and anyone who isn't Immotian\Hesani\Multidude is a total pain in ass to level up.
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>>161072917
So I downloaded Elona and Elona+ and put Elona+ in the Elona folder. When I launch elona plus game opens and then closes but when I launch elona.exe it works. Is that right?
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>>161074335
Bruh, you don't need vanilla Elona
Elona+ is standalone, the only thing you might need for it is Elona Custom
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>>161073634
Is there a compiled version uploaded somewhere?
All I'm seeing on the github is source
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>>161074653
Fuck me. The Pastebin said to download the vanilla Elona before you download Elona+ I just figured that meant it wasnt standalone.
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Any ideas? The previous version of Incursion runs correctly. I've reinstalled DirectX and Microsoft .NET framework, which is what Google suggested.
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This unlimited blade works god is extremely fun.
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>>161024078
>DCSS 0.19 Tournament is over! Congratulations to team /rlg/ for an impressive 31st place!
kek
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>>161052558
I saw mentions of tummies itt in ~.17
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>>161077887

Weren't there 2 teams? What happened to the other one?
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>>161052558
>as a result the next 3ish threads were filled with ironic tummyposting to troll him
Wrong

I only started accusing them of pedophilia after unironic tumshit became a meme.

And it actually worked: whenever tumshit pedos are called out, they angrily shitpost for few posts, then someone reminds them that the thread is about roguelikes and regular /rlg/ resumed function.

In general, /rlg/ functions like this:
>roguelikes
>suddenly slavs/strayans/murkans//pol/tards join and start shitposting
>shitposting intensifies
>shitpost climax is reached
>/rlg/ enters refractory period
>roguelikes until refractory period ends
So calling out tumshitters, /pol/tards and other pedophiles works even when it makes them shitpost madly, because it tires them out and makes them meme less after a while.
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Hey IA dev, I have some suggestions now that I've won the game.

>The difficulty level for Rogue and War Vet is good. It took me a few days to get a win.
>I had played, I think, .16 or .17 before where you had to kill enemies for XP. I think development version, where you don't have to kill anything but the high priest, is an improvement.
>Secret doors are really irritating. On a few playthroughs, I got multiple phobias from one floor where I couldn't find the secret door to the stairs despite having Observant. I'm sure they won't be removed because they are important to the game's atmosphere, but I think it should be a little easier to detect them. Observant is one of the most useful traits, but I can't see any reason for someone to take Perceptive.
>I still haven't fully figured out the ID game. So far it seems that you want to ID manuscripts with a weak enemy in view, a door nearby, and a weapon on the ground (I had to source dive to figure out that a manuscript of Animate Weapon existed). But it seems that sometimes manuscripts of detect foo don't ID. I guess if there are no traps on the floor, then detect traps won't ID?
>Maybe this evaluation is wrong but it seems that the game encourages you to build Dex > Lithe > Observant > Treasure Hunter > Strong Spirit > Self-Aware > Mobile > Stealthy > (whatever you need to kill the high priest)

>Offensive magic seems really weak. >Occultists basically get one Darkbolt in each battle to start, and it's plausible depending on drops that you'll never get Darkbolt below 3-5 even with Warlock for example. I think MP costs should be a bit lower for Occultists.
>Occultists should start with Cool-Headed, at least. Rogue and War Vet each start with 2+ traits and more useful non-trait abilities than trap dispelling.
>The detection spells, Teleport, and Cloud Minds seem a lot more useful and are worth using on non-Occultist character, especially considering how much the game encourages stealth and movespeed.
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tummy slaaaash!
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D:1 ogres are a thing, I guess.
>>
Splatted right after getting the Swamp rune. Should've just ran and come back later for the special loot.
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What are the chances of that new god getting implemented in trunk? I think it's called Ieoh Jian Council.

It's playable so the devs don't completely hate it ,right?
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Going strong as a sexy zombie mauler.

Got a lance of jousting with slay human, helps in camelot.
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>playing first time after a year in CDDA
>started as a maid in a mansion
>found a katana and some gun, full weeb mode
>lmoe shelter nearby, got some ammo for a gun there
>got bitten and infected still in the mansion by the way
>went scawenging for a house looking for antibiotics
>found none and got fucked hard by soldier zombies
>frostbitten, hungry, thirsty and wounded got back to the shelter
>decided to commit sudoku instead of a slow death by infection
Yeah, that was """fun""".
How do I deal with infections by the way, do I just pray for antibiotics nearby or what?
I used soldering iron on an arm which was just starting to get infected and got full infected instead.
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>>161081740
You rush the city, break into bathrooms and hope to find a medkit.
Preferably in the night, so that you don't get wrecked for walking around in the broad daylight like the retard you are.
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>>161081740
Sometimes infections clear up on their own.

An infection itself is rarely fatal. You have to be almost dead already for it to kill you.

Sleeping without a blanket will kill you more often.
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>>161081732
Nice.
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Reminder that our virtual divegrass match against /sog/ starts at about 18:30 UDT (soon(tm))!
Come and watch on the shitbox!
For links see >>161035772
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>>161081963
It was in the night but I was using a flashlight since I've seen literally nothing that night.
>>161081980
So I just wait and pray for it to go away? Or do they not instakill you after some time?
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>>161082178
that's uh
nice
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>>161082267
Infections never instakill you. They just cause constant pain and occassionally damage until they clear up or you get antibiotics. It's miserable, but not fatal by itself.The effects will generally cut your speed by a third to a half and that will frequently lead to getting dog piled.
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>>161082267
It instakills you after ~3 days so you should rush the city and find a medkit or antibiotics unless you consider ~15% chances of survival to be good enough.

If you can't do it in the darkness, then do it in broad daylight with traps and kiting. You don't need to kill anything that doesn't touch you, just sprint from house to house, break into bathroom, rest for stamina to regen and rush another house.
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>>161082412
Hm, maybe I had a chance after all.
The wiki says that it instakills you after 24h, but I guess it may be outdated too.
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>>161082802
The wiki is bloated with stuff from like 5 revisions ago and doesn't even mention have the enemies you'll encounter.
>>
Also were zombie soldiers always that strong?
They took like 6-10 damage from a magnum despite wearing only a helmet.
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>>161083632
They were buffed when their drops got buffed.
Nowadays they have a good chance of dropping guns and meds, but also huge cutting armor.
>>
How much str do I need to cast in ocpa?
>>
How do I fight wisps as a SpEn? It's resistant to almost everything except melee damage.
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>>161084176
1. Walk away
2. Call a few corpses courtesy of Kiku and animate a hydra.
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>>161084258

I'm praying to Ashenzari.
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>>161084258
<3 Kiku's Delivery Service
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>>161083890
They seem almost retardedly tough now, almost like zombie hulks or something.
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>>161084852
To firearms and knives they are, but hammers, planks and cudgels still work. Quarterstaves are better.
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>>161085043
Maybe that's why they seem so hard now, I remember beating one with a stick or a pipe when I was playing a year ago, thats why them taking so little damage from a gun and a katana made me so confused.
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Is this going to cause problems?
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Sometimes I wonder if mi-go have contextual phrases inside all of that gibberish they can spout
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>>161086610
yes
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>>161086610
It can.
It will downgrade loot pinata zeds into fungal ones which drop boring shit and it instantly infects you if you enter the cloud.

But if you have antifungal drugs, you can safely use it to pretty much instakill huge hordes of zeds, then pop a pill when you start vomiting spores.
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>>161086610
Yes, in that it's annoying and spreads fungal dudes everywhere.

No in that you have to go full retard to actually get infected.

Don't start it on fire, by the way, unless you want some everburning inferno in the middle of town for some reason.
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>>161086840
>But if you have antifungal drugs
Use a filter mask
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>>161086610
eyesight problems, yes
>>
>find a bug in Incursion
>rmtew is gone
Please come back.
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>>161086610
Those cars look like fucking legos
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Is Elysium 4 any good?
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>>161087972
Didn't notice
That's pretty cute
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>>161088016
I didn't like it but some people do. Ask in /domg/ for more and better-informed opinions.
>>
Found Awareness, Wisdom, Clairvoyance and Stealth in a ring vault on D1. Currently have a blue-magic broadsword and a shattering charm. What do I get? Any tiers you'd rank those rings under?
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our team is up now, hitbox tv channel 4chancup

may Sigmund continue to give great head
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>>161087185
>>Don't start it on fire, by the way, unless you want some everburning inferno in the middle of town for some reason.
Why wouldn't you want this?
>>
>playing IA
>walk around a corner
>hit by a poison ooze
>die because I don't have any means of curing a full HP bar worth of poison
lel, this game
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>>161089867
>channel doesnt exist
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>>161089867
>>161090708
oops its got "the" in front

I can't type the whole thing out because RETARDED OKINAWASAN thinks it's spam
>>
Remind me, what do I have to inscribe on an item in PCB to stop it from randomly teleporting me, if it has random teleportation?
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>>161090807
.
though it will prompt you every time, and sometimes it's useful (mostly on either characters without a teleportation option that works while confused/blind, or for when fighting a monster that teleports so you can get the "follow teleport?" choice)

so tactically uninscribing can be nice
>>
>>161090807
"."
Mind, IIRC there are two types of random tele. The one that is a 'beneficial type' that prompts teles and allows you to stop it by inscribing ( and allows following teleports if uninscribed and 'malicious type' that doesn't.
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>>161090925
You can still follow teleporting monsters even if you inscribe .
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Holy macaroni.
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fuck we're losing
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>>161091124
dasai is best randart waifu
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>>161089867
fug we're down 0-2 with not much time left
>>
where's the official thread for 4chan cup thing? I want to see check it out
and what the fuck is /sog/ anyway?
>>
>>161091124
Dasai is rather good for artifact reforging since it got such stupid power.
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>>161091560
sog is some boat game apparently, though all they post is ecchi anime girls I think

their thread is 4ccg
>>
Thanks for coming out and watching the game /rlg/
People like to say we have no fans and we're a shit team but I'm humbled by how many of you bothered to come.
We have another game tomorrow at 18:00 UTC and a game Sunday at 18:30 UTC. These times are approximate, expect delays
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>>161077582
is that you saltybet
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>>161091904
even if we did get shut out this time

also when they're showing all the team mascots and icons, our icon covers the most important part of the sigmund milk image (namely, sigmund's enormous milky breasts) which makes me even more sad
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>>161091904
I'm gonna watch as long as you remind us in the thread
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Not one more kind of shitposting

Fucking redditcup cancer
Go to own containment thread
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>>161092348
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>>161092459
Fun is not tightly designed and does not lead to interesting tactical situations.
Real roguelikes don't have even the tiniest bit of fun.
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>>161091124
What game is this?
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>>161092348
you know, after /rlg/ gets splatted you will not hear about it until next year

if you are going to complain about shitposting, do so on the truly cancerous kind
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Is Iwo Jima already in the trunk version or is it some branch?
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>>161092695
poschengband
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>>161092040
Nope.
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>>161092730
>truly cancerous kind
like what? tummies, awoo, anything slex related, dicku and mumo nostalgiafags?
/rlg/ would literally go beyond page 10 and die without funposting unless we kept shitting out crawl stuff like we used to
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>make Hellsing
>doesn't use Archery skill
>accepts gun mods
>but even then not many gun mods
Granade you fucking faggot stop stealing Metro 2033, left 4 Dead 2 and Lovecraft monsters/items
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what's a good roguelike game to begin with?
I want to try something as in-depth and big as nethack but i'm too dumb to figure out all the controls

i've been playing brogue but that's the only roguelike i've tried
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>>161093128
brogue
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>>161093058
This general does not need any of that shit to stay afloat, man.

>funposting
Gee, aren't you a "funposter."
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Comfy YT channel with rlgwalkthroughs, epic music on background and random edits WHEN? There's literally no quality roguelike channels, only boring shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeZH2VOfwNk
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>>161093232
I honestly don't care about the thing, but the anon who posts it is very into it apparently and he's never pushed it over the years. We tolerate him and some people even go and watch the thing.
So stop being a dick to try and fit it.
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>tfw no more Sil updates ever
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>>161093128
use ? to open the help in most roguelikes, can help you find the controls

alternatively, try sil, it's not as sprawling as nethack but it is a beautiful game
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>>161093128
DCSS
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>>161093370
>playing with always special rooms on
>as a zerker
literally (metaphorically) [abstractly] cheating.
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>>161093370
fizzixangband and silstreamer both haven't been updated in a while but have quality content for vanilla Angband and the Sil variant respectively

Peltor777 has made some PosCheng stuff too but I haven't followed it all that closely since there's no commentary. Some anons have posted a few things here and there too.
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>>161093417
I think anon was talking about THAT kind of cancerous posts, not the /vg/cup
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>>161093463
>>161093543

thanks anons, i'll try these out
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>>161093665
Oh
my mistake
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Is constructing walls and other major shit even worth it in DDA? Construction projects take fucking forever, and aside from making a solar farm for free interior lighting, I feel like the time and resource cost of making these things outweighs any benefits they provide
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>>161093760
>I feel like the time and resource cost of making these things outweighs any benefits they provide
DDA in a nutshell
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I'm gonna play a sexy snotling berserker!
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>>161093760
Pretty much all of the construction menu is autism options. The charcoal maker is about the only thing useful that isn't a low level dig-a-hole type task.

If you have hordes on and nearby, they'll find you before you spend literal seasons making your cool base.

If you don't, nothing will attack you and you don't need a cool base.
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>>161093418
?
Sil usually updates on Jan 3 for Tolkien's birthday

Though it could miss that this year, I don't know the dev's status except that they have a new child
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>>161093546
>when someone wins but says they used [X] ludicrous completely game-changing option to sway the game in their favor, or they went absolutely full retard and wrote a script to scum the black market or something

I will never understand this.
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>>161094186
imo the main point of always special rooms on a berserker is increased fun and insanity
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>>161094186
Zerker synergizes very well with special rooms.
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>>161093370
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzmCTHcYFM5nnAPBYE26Fng

an actual greatplayer aussie memelord
his videos are pretty fun when he records with his friends because that aussie banter
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You know, since pseudo gives auto-lore snotling/yeek zerker with special rooms might be a fun little time waster.
Sort of coffebreak poscheng.
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>>161095134
android special rooms berserker is the classic accelerated combo
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>>161095307
>three minutes in
Bloody hell.
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>>161095532
the extra android AC per level, and the random-ass immunities androids get (basically side effects of their weirdly implemented alternate xp source) against xp drain, race polymorph, statswap, etc is also really nice

plus rockets
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does cbro have nuyellow/nomottled Dr right now?
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has the tumhou roguelike still not been released?
how much longer must we languish?
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>walk down the stairs to Spider Nest: 3
>Mara, Arachne, and Asterion all at once
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is a +9 bardiche of freezing worth the XP?

I wanna but I kinda don't...
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>>161093128
Infra Arcana is a bit like Brogue but with all the spoilery secret bullshit of Nethack.
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>>161098221
that is wrong and bad
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when you misread your first teleportation scroll in a game as a scrollmaster
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What's the current DCSS stat-up strategy? Still 100% INT if you do any casting and 100% dex if you don't?
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It happens every time.
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>>161100887
Doesn't matter, I had a 10/10 teleport.
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>>161088882
Probably too late but:
Clair>>>>Wisdom/Awareness>Stealth
Wisdom is better if you are using more staves. Awareness is better if you are using allies
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>>161101190
rip
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>it's a d4 player ghost wearing platemail episode
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>>161098221
literally this: >>161099259
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>>161101980
>it's a GrFi with 60 AC and a weapon of chaos stairhogging lair 1
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>>161101980
>it's the ghost of your best losing run ever
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>>161098135
No shit
I mean if you are training polearms of course.
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>>161102846
really? better than a vamp dtrident/trishula + shield?
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>>161103030
if you already have the dtrident, stick with it
but if you're holding out on using a real weapon that actually exists in favor of an imaginary weapon that doesn't yet exist, you're dumb and bad at videogame
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>>161099271
why are you playing scrollmaster
why would anyone play scrollmaster
it's the most useless devicemaster specialty

i guess you sometimes get to preserve ?acq and shit? but what other benefits do you actually get? none
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>>161103390
oh I'm not, I just felt really vulnerable with the bardiche and didn't know if it would even be worth the XP anyway

the fact that I am very bad at videogame is beside the point pls no bully
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>>161103719
>no wins
>still goes postend
I wish you fags would stop doing this.
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>find Staff of Elementals, Frostbite, and the Sword of Power in a treasure trove
>training polearms
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>>161104774
Pooparms crosstrains with axes, does it not?
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IT'S

NOT

FAIR

IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!

>+9 chaos quickblade

>turns gastrononk into a hasted berserked juggernaut

>lmao 2hit
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>>161105185
TACTICAL and CHALLENGING scenarios

your fault for using meme chaos weapons :^)
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>>161105514
It was ___fun___ up till that point

Man, talk about hilarious luck though
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>>161105185
I thought that said D:1 for a sec and was really confused
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>>161105060
eh frostbite isn't really worth it

why could it not spawn like one good spear though
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>>161106034
You're not really worth it either you garbage baby.
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>>161106768
that's pretty rude man

gonna hurt someones feelings someday
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Red-pill me on large shields /rlg/
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>>161108173
With 5 of them you can construct a house. If you force an intelligent monster inside of the house, you can tax it for free money.
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>>161109049
(Note: money is useless)
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>>161108173
I once had one with enough +int that it improved my spell casting even at 15 shields.

Other than that they're a bit shit on not large races.
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>>161093370
>comfy
>ebin music and random edits
No such thing, dicku is the maximum comfy anyway https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsutlHZM6kCXon9wAn_jFkA
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>>161109551
I'm at the point where I think I can afford to raise shields, even if I'm not large.

>>161104575
am I really supposed to say no to postend with this kind of run? I know it's fucking terrible to go without having even won yet but I just want to go explore the tortured depths of the dungeon. can I not be romantic? is that sub-optimal?
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>>161110953
You're a MiBe. It doesn't matter what you do. Everything is free.
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>>161111245
it m-matters to me anon
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NOOOOOO WHY

I'VE LITERALLY NEVER HIT AN ALLY IN LIKE 1000 RUNS

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS
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>>161111572
>not curing and blonking out right away
You deserve what you get you super baka.
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>>161111572
why the fuck would you not just drink cure and blink
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>>161074863
That's from 4,5+ years ago when E+ was barely forked from Elona so there was still some merit in playing the nip gacha tier grinding of the original. It's all E+ and E+ custom now

>>161077582
Soo incandescent with rage that they make a Tukima's dance: The God. give us back the coolest spell you little shits.

>>161081702
50-50? It's just a branch to allow for playtesting so it doesn't really mean anything but that's how the last 6 or so gods were done.

>>161081740
If you get a bite, get somewhere safe QUICKLY, start a fire and apply your sharps to cauterize it. It can take 8+ tries now cause of "dev" butthurt but it'll get the job done if you didn't have disinfectant, first aid kits, or peroxide.

>>161084852
If you have decent stats you just crit chain them with a spear or you just plow through them with a homewrecker or a quarterstaff. They're nothing like hulks at all.

>>161086638
They do. They tell a lot of game lore if you find and listen to them a lot.

>>161093128
Sil, Dynahack, Infra arcana, dungeon crawl stone soup

Don't get discouraged by the controls. When we started we all had trouble with controls for al ong time. Just keep looking at the list of commands all the time and you'll slowly work your way through it.

>>161093418
Like Brogue, not all that much left to do anyway. A little rebalancing on some of the weaker traits maybe and fleshing out the artifacts a little more but that's it. He could shit on forging even more I guess? Maybe cap song of slaying and nerf concentration more.
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can I cast animate skeleton on my own skeleton
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>>161093760
If you're gonna do walls, go into options and set the construction time to 500(0?)-800(0?). Like most things in DDA, construction is poorly modeled and has little basis in reality along with zero accounting for skill or any way to assist the project.

Bear in mind you can jackhammer the floor of a room to collapse the roof and build a solar farm or veggie farm inside.
You can seal off 5 tiles of your mansion so shit that spawns inside it stays out of your way
Adding some walls for traffic control you can make NPC traps where they go eat a land mine or booby trap with their face.

There's minor use of a more sturdy "border" around your temporary cache/farm than if you use bookcases so stuff doesn't immediately aggro when you walk outside. For farms though, by the time you're all good to go you've already exhausted virtually all the zombies in the region so you'll only see zombies twice a year at worst so it's up to you if 4 years on vanilla time to enclose a 2x2 farm is worth it. (It isn't)

>>161094120
You can blow out your window and replace it with a metal frame through for your killbox.
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>>161111828
>>161111939
やめろっ!
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>>161103667
faster and more powerful and potentially-preserve reading of ?geno and ?destroy lets you more reliably get rid of things before they save and make the 1/13 immunity roll, which is a lot more common with staves because of the much lower device power. Also potion/scrollmasters get 5 blows instead of 4.

Plus I can still use offense devices. But yeah I dunno, because I keep losing scrollmasters is the real reason.
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>>161111861
Yes. The results are as you'd imagine
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>>161111572
>Are you sure
>>
>Clear a barrow wight room with a chest and leave smiling
>Walk into a room with 2 distended spiders, a red orc and a bunch of warriors
Felt weird to feel my smile and optimism die
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>>161113996
>tfw MoooMoooo is the sound of your death
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Holy shit what are the odds
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>>161114330
evidently 1
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>>161114330
>the Arrow 'Dailir' disappears
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>>161114096
THERE'S MORE THAN 2
MORE THAN TWOOOOOO!
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>>161112043
red pandas are also very cute
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yo my name is ZOT and i don't give a FUCK
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>>161115590
yo my name is GEHENNOM and I give EVEN LESS OF A FUCK
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>start on a three-tile island
>no axe
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>161112608
the chance to preserve is based on item level, so pretty rare for highlevel scrolls like ?destruct

you'd be better off just playing a human warrior with the fast reader perk tbqh
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>I botch the attack completely! I am off balance.
>The Byakhee claws me!!! I am wounded. The byakhee claws me.
>My leather jacket is torn apart! The Byakhee claws me!!!
>-LOW HP WARNING-
>I hear the flapping of great wings. (E) I can move again!
>The Byakhee claws me!!! -I AM DEAD-

So you can fail to swing in IA, get paralyzed, and die? Why?
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>>161116482
>first person narrator

ugh
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>>161116431
Or a staffmaster, who gets most of the good scrolls as staffs anyway.
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>tfw Uldor out of the way

>>161116407
Can you do one of those tutorial things to start with one?

>>161116482
Basically you're majorly whiffing. It's more likely if you're cursed but otherwise like a 1%
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>>161116560
Seriously, it's fucking retarded. Completely kills immersion, maybe unless you speak it out loud like some kind of autist
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>>161116835
>-I AM DEAD-
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>>161116482
Because Martin kind of flails aimlessly when implementing stuff and does dumb shit sometimes.
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>>161116482
you used to also be able to destroy/drop(?) your weapon on crit fails

>>161116736
wand and staffmaster are just "why didn't i pick magic-eater", the class

the only devicemaster subclass that seems worth playing is potions
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>>161116560
>>161116835
It fits the Lovecraftian setting quite well.
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>>161116762
No, I know how the mechanic works, I read the source to find out. But why is it in the game?
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singles - extended
dubs I go for zot
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>>161117014
Cause he's a doof? Critical failures are a tradition
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>>161117014
See >>161116908
Also a good example: The monolith on D1 could spawn 4 aware dust vortexes within two tiles of you in the recent dev builds. Which is inevitable death unless you have teleport or the terrain is very precisely in your favour.
Luckily we bitched about it and he changed that.
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>>161116431
having the highest per level device skill in the game is maybe okay with 5 blows

it's sortof a pet challenge I keep turning back to, getting scrollmasters going
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>Drop one of my rF+ rings 'so I can go use id two weapons
>eat a shaft trap with my face
>Shift moving down a hall
>this
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>>161086638
MShock tiles right? Which Cata tiles are the most up to date currently?
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>>161117537
Acid in Sil is a crime.
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>>161117537
>item destruction

Love to retreat back into an explored room and drop my staves of treasures, revelations, and recharging whenever I see a ruby serpent.
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>>161117728
>>161117537
>You see Gillim, Giant of Eruman
>My cloak of rC+ is ogre

>>161118110
>>161117728
Whispering shadows are the worst. They never spawn where they should and they're always getting woke up by shit.
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>>161118202
>Nobody in view, this is my time to shine
>The foo flees up the stairs
>Start plinking
>Hitting something in the way
>Something starts biting me from another direction
>Easterling archers come from fuck knows where
>Gillim flees up the stairs
Give me Glend you piece of shit
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Oh god why are undead minions temporary now, this is annoying as shit.
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>Antaeus, Guardian of Cocytus comes into view. He is wielding the +8 autumn katana {slice, clar}
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why is everything resistant to cold this isn't fair
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>>161119816
he must be a scrub
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>>161119816

So you can't cast confuse on him since confuse would be too OP.
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>>161119775
Cause anyone could put a pittance into necro, reanimate their kills and slam half a floor of undead into 1-2 uniques or hard fights?
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>>161119962
>>161119946
do I even fucking try

I'm just staring at his immaculate frost giant body rn
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>>161120019
It has made necromancy a complete pain in the ass, was there truly no other way?
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>>161120091
No. He hits like a truck, has a powerful spell, he has obscene health, and then hell effects drop a ice fiend 5 tiles away for a 1 turn combo. if you must, buff up, blink over and crawl up his asspussy

>>161120234
Not without making all the animate spells L7. Just think of it as offensive charms now.
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>>161120362
>Not without making all the animate spells L7.
How about limiting minions in both quantity and quality based on level of necromancy and XL?
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So I got crystal plate armor on D:2
Am I blessed?
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Man, I have really lost my groove in Demon.
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>>161120547
this happened to me once

inb4 splat on D:5
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>>161120507
Still wont do much because their value is in getting shot at, causing distract stabs, and letting you switch into them to force a gap to run up the stairs. Undead/spectral are worse and in limited quantity so you can't give them the summoning treatment.

>>161120547
Yes, hold onto it a bit then you can slap it on.
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>>161120362
I'm going in

blocked like three attacks so far

also do scrolls of summoning summon shit according to location or do I have ridiculously terrible luck. at least they'll keep the ice fiends away
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>>161120952
According to locations. It's a scrolled shadow creatues. You need to down the fiends cause that torment is atrocious.
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>>161121172
was too easy almost. don't think antaeus even touched me. most damage was from an ice fiend torment that took me down to like 60% at one point but otherwise uneventful
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I hate the fucking shoals.
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>>161121578
>he can't fly
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Best race for Council? Will I get GSCs of Speed if I go Ogre?
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>>161121758
Crawl? GSC's of speed are fairly rare but you don't need them
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>>161121758
Probably a race with even aptitudes like minotaur
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>>161121578

Try playing casters next time. You'd always go to Shoals first especially if you have Spider as the second branch.
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Is Beserker Minotaur a dumb strategy?
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That was lucky, was planning on going Ru anyway.
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>>161122065
I dont need wands of haste and teleport anyway. All im sacrificing is a potential wand of healing.
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>>161121958

It'll give you your first win.
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>>161121758
Anything that casts is fine with it.

>>161121958
It's fine. Remember to use trog's hand for MR agaisnt mr checks, regen for any fight that may be lengthy, summon a brother(s) for any battle that may go south well before it actually does. Berserk responsibly. If you can't finish it and you don't know 100% that you've not heart an additional shouts/buzzing/etc or expect noise that would draw adds. by leaning mostly on fighting you can use whatever if you want to have fun over effectiveness. Regardless, don't ignore your cross-trained weapon classes as trog can give you nice shit to use in the meantime
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>>161121958
it's THE strategy anon
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>>161122219
Well

Okay.
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>>161122204

enjoy your permanent big daddy -% spawn rate instead of playing the savescumming mode
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>>161121958
crawl races are intentionally not balanced with each other
minotaur is the strongest/easiest race and berserker is the strongest/easiest class, so it's the easiest combo to play/win with
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>>161122643
If that's the easiest combo, then what's the hardest?
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>>161122689
probably Mummy Chaos Knight
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>>161122689
>thousanddeathsofthepharaoh.jpg
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Is the new god in trunk yet?
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>>161122864
Experimental branch on CBRO.
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How are brogue and caves of qud?
>>
>>161122643

If berserker is the truly the strongest/easiest class then why is the tournament leaderboards filled with Cheis?
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>>161123509
Brogue is enjoyable, but way too luck-based on equipment and enemy spawns.
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I HATE THE FUCKING SHOAAAAALLLS
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>>161123557
because people need to feel superior to other people's more successful playstyles
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>Beat 2 900' cats
>1 hp
Really hurts

>>161123509
Brogue's great but there's a bit of a learning period where you're either playing a lot of seeds from the reddit brogue forum (Where Pender migrated after his host shit the bed) seed catalog , CoQ is a hot mess of pre-alpha that the dev abandoned to do steam games then immediately slapped a price tag on CoQ afterwards

>>161123702
Skill better and save the finale for later.
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>>161123509
Qud is pretty fun, but don't pay a shekel for it if you have any morality - it has DRM.
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>>161123557
trog is strongest in 3 runes but falls off in 15-rune games

also crawl tournaments give fewer points for frequently-won combos like mibe
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>>161123645
>people are still bad at brogue
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>>161123509
Brogue's great but there's a bit of a learning period where you're either playing a lot of seeds from the reddit brogue forum (Where Pender migrated after his host shit the bed) seed catalog or just splatting a lot so you know how effective the enchant curve on each item is so you know how to put together a winning run. Or just empower a midgame ally and win.
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>>161122758
I was going to say something snarky but honestly sitting in Temple spamming 5 for a million turns is probably one of the hardest playthroughs possible in crawl.
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>>161123897
Seed=save?
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>>161122512
Never seen a fragile artifact before. A bit annoying because rf+++ is an ideal switcher

Oh well, guess Ill use it until I find something better
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>>161123557

Chei Pride Worldwide
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>>161124601
>interesting and tactical online tummy pounding simulator

..what
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>>161124601
no memes allowed
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>>161124585
Oh no, -tele :^)
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>>161124497
No. Brogue generates its floors and items off of a fixed number. this number can be shared to give any other player the exact same drops, spawns, and layouts as the first one got. This allows both for a seed catalog for new players to learn by getting a specific item(s)/ally to experiment with and for competitions to see who does the best on a seed. They used to have weekly seed competitions on the forum. Dunno if they continued after they got shitcanned to reddit.
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>>161124989
Suck my enlightened dick
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>hell's force summons THREE (3) fucking tormenters all at once

fuck off with this shit
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infection RL when? I want to be create a parasite/virus/bacterium and infect a randomly generated human starting at different points like open cuts, the stomach or through the urethra. Level up and gain resistances or the ability to blend in and evade antibodies
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>>161125726
That doesn't sound too difficult to make, mostly just things that are already in a lot of the open-source roguelikes.
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>>161125726
The closest we have to that is currently those Pandemic games, which are not roguelikes.
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>>161125443
Disc of Storms

>>161125726
Play pandemic?
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>>161125726
You could make that with the 7drl libraries in probably less than a month. Spit polish it and you'll be able to sell it on steam for 5 bucks.
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I made a forced runesword-start mode in Poschengband R. A birth-option, automatically starts you out with runesword wielded - the damage formula was modified a bit so when you have negative or 0 damage, you deal 1 or 0 damage ( a coinflip ).
Oh, and you can't use mundanity on it.
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>>161125726

I want to play as a sperm cell racing roguelike competing with other sperm cells to the goal of mating with the egg cell. One Way Heroics style
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>>161123509
Never played Caves of Qud. Brogue is a meme. It is often referred to as an example of elegant design but it has many retarded features, like allies being both overpowered and annoying due to awful AI, searchwalking for floor traps and secret doors, water as a deathtrap, and aspects of the ID game (always ID in a closed-off room, near a body of water, make sure you can wait off !hallucination, etc.)

I think it's pretty frustrating if you're seriously trying to win it and just not looking at the pretty colors.
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how does this happen
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>>161123557
Chei is good for high scores because you get more regeneration per turn and a big damage boost from Statue Form.
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>>161126859
game?
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>>161126910
that's cadacylsm: dark days ahead
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>>161126910
Cataclysm DDA. http://en.cataclysmdda.com/
Do turrets just spawn in random areas now?
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>>161126859
Pretty crazy rng?
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>don't do extended before you beat the game they said
>you'll never even survive hell they said

I thought Dis was supposed to be hard?
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>>161126859
>anonymous spills his spaghetti
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>>161126859
>Turret
>Middle of a minefield
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>>161123509
old Qud was amazing, but they ruined it
they made it worse and are charging for it
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>>161126859
Update there was a mine next to turret bro and a zombie tripped it and blew him to hell
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>>161126859
Probably it started on the road, and a brute managed to smack it backwards before being shot to death.
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I found some more turrets and accepted my past life as a turret and got myself killed
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what do I even start leveling now? polearms so I can use the +9 bardiche of freezing?
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>>161127324
You got a shield to soak iron shots, you have TSO for heals on kills and allies, you're wearing a GDA with your everything fueled bu absurd minotaur apts. It's not that Dis is easy it's that you're playing the ultra casual combo to a T
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>>161127957
fug
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>>161127676
No need to do that. Lob grenades or plink with a longbow and metal arrows from max range while armored up to get all the sick loot.
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>>161128064
at least I'm doing something right for once
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>>161126364
It can take some time to get first pips of damage... Better than nothing, at least!

I recommend carrying flasks of oil to throw around, to soften foes.
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>>161128435
just buy a sling man
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>>161128417
Nothing wrong about getting a feel of the game through MiBe, congrats on your near guaranteed win.
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>>161128894
oh there is still plenty of time to splat pathetically after tabbing one too many times out of laziness. I might have cured that with this run though, not too many unnecessary near death situations

furthest I've gotten before was dying to Asmodeus (I've never actually won) and I just ploughed his ass too.

thought I was a while away from being endgame super hardcore but it seems this is the plateau barring some crazy finds
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>>161120362
>Just think of it as offensive charms now.
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>>161128067
Polearms because it increases the damage of your trishula.
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Lunge ability + some stealth + a shortblade = great fun
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>>161128595
I bought on one attempt but I kept missing.

Flasks seemed much more powerful early on, 1d4 fire damage IIRC.
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>>161129512
yeah what the fuck? I thought you only ever got up weapon skills enough to get min delay on your weapon but now I read the wiki and they actually do give you benefits beyond just getting it to min delay
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>>161129963
What abilities does that god even have
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>>161130161
Basically, min delay is the most important but after that it's important to get your defenses and utility up instead of a small amount of accuracy and damage
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huh... casters without unlimited haste feels really strange to play
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>tfw you're trying to arrange a nice unrandart display in your stash
>tfw you mistake a patch of water as shallow and drop the autumn katana into the depths

welp
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>>161130523
Train some fighting
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>>161130734
>tfw he's in range for getting one-shot by torment+high rolled hellfire
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>>161126441

>he doesn't have a brogue victory
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>>161130807
>tfw as logn as a 3/3 lightning, firebolt, +2/3 regen, or empowerment drops you have a 80% winrate
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>>161130252
>------
All melee weapon skills and unarmed get a huge bonus to crosstraining, so basically they will be close to your highest skill.
The god spawns floating weapons around you as you hit stuff. These don't seem to do anything on their own, but synergize with all the other abilities.
Conduct: No shields, no launchers.
>*-----
You can animate a weapon in your hands, essentially throwing it, berserking it, and animating it. Really high piety cost unfortunately.
>**----
You get to use some cool techniques with weapons, these all have the same delay as your move delay afaict:
>Short blades+Axes
Lunge for 2.0 damage when moving directly towards an enemy.
>LBlades+M&F
Basically Sil flanking.
>Polearms+Staves
When you move into a wall/statue etc. (not plants though) you can vault off of them, moving you 2 spaces in the opposite direction and hitting all enemies adjacent to where you land
>***---
You can recall a weapon to your hands, it hits everyone in its path.
>****--
When you use one of the above abilities to hit a dude, you can slow or paralyze them. Scales with invo afaik.
>*****-
You can sacrifice all your flying weapons to blow up an enemy, kind of like Uskayaw's Grand Finale except it just deals massive damage. The weapons will hit everything they move through.
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In the spirit of the asceticism trend, surprised Ru doesnt just remove your need to eat and breath at high levels.
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>>161130945
>above abilities
By this I mean the weapon techniques.
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>>161130945
>When you move into a wall/statue etc. (not plants though) you can vault off of them, moving you 2 spaces in the opposite direction and hitting all enemies adjacent to where you land
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>>161130945

>same delay as your move delay afaict

>When you use one of the above abilities to hit a dude, you can slow or paralyze them. Scales with invo afaik.

I won't play this God for now. Seems pretty overpowered horseshit
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>>161131536
From the thread:
>There is a "momentum" system in place to balance heavy against fast weapons. When you strike while moving, the proportion between your move and attack delay is applied as a damage modifier. This way, if you are moving super-quickly while lugging a huge sword, you will deal decreased damage. Conversely, slow characters that have reached min delay will be rewarded with increased damage when performing martial attacks.

But yeah, I would agree that he seems a bit too strong currently. The play is very involved though, which is nice.
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>>161130319
12 m&f skill is all you need for that +9 sacred whip and you can rape everybody tbqh.
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What are actually good metamorphosis classes? I can see monk/mystic working, but are there any others? Seems rather weak option, to be honest...
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>>161132140
Still lets you break AC more often
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>>161132140

>sacred whip

Why would anyone use that when you can just use an actually useful and superior eudemon blade instead? It only costs 12 long blades too. I don't really get why anyone would want a useless whip
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>>161132591
>sacred scourge[1/1]: (maces & flails; +0 acc / 12 dam / 1.1 base delay / 0.5 min delay).
>eudemon blade[1/3]: (long blades; -2 acc / 14 dam / 1.2 base delay / 0.6 min delay).

Eudemon blade is probably slightly better but if you've already trained M&F and you have the scourge then the scourge is better. Because- you know- you have it.
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How to prevent getting one-shotted in DCSS?
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I don't get why LMOE shelters don't have any light in them.
Isn't the whole point of them is to be able to live for a long period of time, how come they decided that having no light source there is a good idea?
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Yay.

rf+++ is great and all, but holy shit my offensive power is nonexistent.
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>>161132591
Sacred whip is far superior to eudemon blade in non riposte versions because it's faster and in the post endgame you probably have slaying if not might.
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>>161132863
the best way to live for a long period of time is to transform into a fungus
how are you going to do that when there's bright lights everywhere?
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>>161132861
More health, don't neglect defenses, limit your exposure, mind your movement speed, mind your attack speed if it's >1.0. Don't have vulnerabilities, wear resists or flee against high dice elemental. Wiki things you haven't fought

>>161132863
Cause for over 80,000 years humanity either went to sleep or burned some wood? Get with the program and be happy you can at least build a vehicle lining your underground with aisle lights and swappable storage batteries

>>161133082
Should be doing fine for your level though. I presume you're at min delay? Congrats on the free win from the +rage
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>>161132823

>14 dam

What version are you playing on?
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>>161133349
>Should be doing fine for your level though. I presume you're at min delay? Congrats on the free win from the +rage
Problem with no teleport is that you need to kill things really fucking fast. +8 mindelayed electric glaive will do that for me.

I'm a bit worried about V5, but with Apocalypse spam I think I can do it.
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>>161132161
i think mystic was actually overlooked
monk metamorphosis gets stunning attacks and special-cased bonuses from its damage-increasing stance but mystic gets nothing

also elemental brands don't work on dragon claws apparently so idk if the mystic's powers would be any use
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>>161133352
I just grabbed it off learndb (which I guess needs to be updated). Forgot that they lost damage when Riposte became a thing.
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summoning spooky ghost hands and using them to make enemies smell bad
(and incidentally also become paralyzed i guess)
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>>161133445
Save your rF+ glaive for reading immo and Apocalypse to tear them all apart then swap. You might be able to stairdance V5 but it'd be rough
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>>161133619
Unfortunately, the glaive was fragile, however, I had a handy +3 fire dragon armor to buff up.
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wew

don't think I've ever even seen a randart lajatang
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>>161133349
Formicids can't berserk you goddamn animal.
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>>161133878
fuck me sideways
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>>161133947
Right, the stasis. Now i'm sad.... Glaive of the guard without zerk spam is like a merfolk without a polearm.
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>>161111939
>Like most things in DDA, construction is poorly modeled and has little basis in reality along with zero accounting for skill or any way to assist the project.
Well, cut it some slack, it's probably the most deep survival game out there still.
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>>161134237
>Now i'm sad
Formicids are sad in general really.
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>>161127409
Isn't old Qud still available?
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>>161110953
>>161111245


I'm trying the same MiBe (well that works trog with spears, I had no idea!)
3 newbee's questions:
I found this: the +12 glaive of Prune {chop} stopped training shield (this in 13.4) and took Polearms (14) to 26?
With the 2 rings I have +8 dex and +6 dex: then +0 fire dragon scales or +3 plate armor {+ rF}?
What do I put the points, str or dex on?
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>>161127409
What was better in the old qud?
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>>161133349

Probably far more than 80k years desu
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>>161134370

>fault
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>>161134623
cant really tell what you're trying to say

that glaive isn't really worth ditching shields to eventually be able to use it well

the plate armor is way better obviously

put your points into dex
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[engine revving]
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>>161133349
Yeah, the lighting in the game is kinda shit in some parts. There is still hope that they will work on it sometime in the future, or someone will make a mod fixing it. Just add some generators and lamps in some buildings and thats it.
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>>161132161
I'm not sure. Ninja maybe, since they keep their ninja stabs. Most melee classes are going to end up as a weaker monk, I would assume. Maybe terrible classes like rage-mage since they are so bad anyway.

Someone here was trying a sorcerer, no idea how it turned out.
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>>161134967
just clear labs until you get a rivtech design binder and craft some atomic lamps
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>>161135034
Just become a spider then shove a flashlight in your eye for when you need to craft.
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>>161134939
[intense revving]
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>>161135258
FIRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNveMjoSxp0
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"used" armour salesman my ass. Who just thinks, "well geez, this vorpal blade is ass. Better go sell it to some shady fuck"?
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>>161135258
10000 shiteating sundowner grins
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>>161134891
apologize for my poor english!

>the plate armor is way better obviously
What is the obvious part?
Ty anon!
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>>161135352
Jesus fucking christ, the formicid life is intense

Spamming Apocalypse as much as I can, quaffing potions like oxygen
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>>161029820
hope so. smart people need to play games too.
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>>161029820
Only the good ones.
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>>161129963
Speaking of which, how does crosstraining work anyway? Is it based off your highest skill in the crosstrain group or do all your crosstrained skills benefit from eachother?
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Poor little gnoll
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>>161135362
The plate armour has higher guaranteed damage reduction ( plus higher enchantment in this case ), plus the rC- of fire dragon armour can hurt.
You probably have enough str/armour skill to wear plate without too much effort.

Glaive of Prune is rather good damage-wise. You could wield it for now, and ditch it once you find better one - or if you happen to find really nice shied.
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>>161024640
>free as in freedom versio
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>>161135754
thank you anon!
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>>161135715
>The gnoll throws the club
>It hits you
>DYWYPI?
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>>161135775
That better be a smile of friendly approval, not a smug grin of a willing slave downplaying the importance of Freedom.
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>>161135950
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>>161086610
Yes, but at the same time it solves all your other problems. Fungaloids are edible, and kill all other monsters in the area.
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>>161136160
until it kills your fps
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Does anyone still have that old chart that shows the various STR/armour skill combinations required to partially/completely overcome the various penalties for each encumbrance rating?
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>>161136342
No because you're sperging out over nothing. If you put it on and your evasion/spellcasting drops too much get more skill or abandon it.
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>>161136451
Your mom sperged over your dad's dick and nine months later you were born you sad cuck. I want the chart to know when to stop leveling str and when to start leveling dex as a demigod bitch I have full control and I'm going to use it.
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>>161136342
>completely overcome
I'm pretty sure the graph is asymptotic and it never reaches 0. Can't recall the eavp function offhand though.
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>>161136535
The answer is never and when you want more EV per dodging
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>>161136789
Just stop posting you self frustrated cuck. Why is a simple question so offensive to your sensibilities that you feel the need to respond in such a useless manner?
If you have something against trying to understand the game's mechanics keep it yourself and never fucking reply to me again unless you are contributing to the thread.
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>>161136303
>running a commodore 64 in 2016
Come on now. The game doesn't even update on frames like that.
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>>161136949
Because you're the same as the guys that put too much weight on GDR. You're being an idiot grasping at straws.
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Btw are there any magical light sources in CDDA, I got some magic books in a mansion, maybe there is something usefull there?
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>>161135754
>GDR
>>161136342
>eliminating AEVP

Do not.
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>>161137002
The only one that's grasping at straws is you because you literally have no criticism or argument against anything I said, you just decided to project a strawman at a simple post because you wanted to get into an argument. Your only hope of not looking like a fucking retard in this exchange is if I said something even more retarded than the autismal spasms you call posts but that's an impossibility at this point.

I sincerely hope you never post here ever again.
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>>161137145
Not the same person.
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>>161137161
dumb fucking inbred retard
do us all a favor and drink some bleach
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>>161136767
it used to work differently but they changed the system to stop people having to look autistic spoiler graphs up to know how much to train their skills
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>>161137259
How is it possible for someone to get this mad this fast without provocation? Are you having a bad day or did you just decide to troll yourself?
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>>161137231
I never said it was.
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>>161137332
stupid fucking tumposting anime faggot
get the fuck out of my thread
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>>161137415
Low IQ.
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I can't tell if this is ironic or not, either way, it's hilariously awful,
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apparently incrusion has weaboo assassin'screed daggers-hidden-in-your-bracers in it. i can activate by bracers to shoot a "springblade" out

bonus points: it is really buggy
whenever i make a reach attack with my spiked chain i also get to somehow stab shit with my wristblades from 10' away
and somehow they are inheriting the thunder brand from my chain
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>>161137135
Some artifacts give light.
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>>161137415

You stupid 2 (int) minotaur! I will keep on spanking your butt until you've learned your lesson!
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Stop, you brutes!
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Are New Fencer's Gloves good? I've never used the Riposte version.
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>>161137619
>2 (int)
That's not how you do casts
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>>161137768
Amazing. those free attacks are great
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>>161137768

Way too good that they nerfed it
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>>161137619
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>>161137768
The are the best.
>long blades are like having a free pair of Fencer's
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Should have teleported around Tomb:3 instead. These damned bennus
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>>161138491
RIP.
My ghoul monk went same way once, after getting 14 other runes first. Just as he got Glaciate under 10% fail rate...
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Hey PCB-r guy, can you do something about summoning traps? Maybe lower the enemy level, but increase enemy count, or allow the player to act first? Instant death isn't fun under any circumstance, and traps like this overwhelmingly favor melee (free xp) over casters.
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>incursion
>start with a +5 wand of firebolts, capable of doing approximately 5x the maxhp of anything i see
>walk around a corner
>constricted by a shadow blob
>it resists fire
>die
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>>161139006
RNGesus giveth, RNGesus taketh away. amen
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>>161137619
hot
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>>161137619
How do you even get 8% on a test? Why even write it?
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ah yes, the legend of the random cursed nunchaku in a dungeon somewhere
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i'll never get to use that nunchuck now

i instantly lost 80% of my health to a random critical hit from an unseen enemy in a corridor
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>>161139006
The potions that ring the starting room are guaranteed to be !heal and !dimensionDoor
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>>161138853
Well, I'll see into it.
I was thinking of giving them sort of 'summoning' sickness so they can't act for turn or two. Enough to read scroll or splat one to make way as zerker.
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>>161139987
5 healing and 3 dimension door to be precise.
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>>161139881
game?
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>>161140457
incursion: in the halls of the goblin king
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>play poschengband for the first time
>walk into town
>walk out of town
>get raped by a swordfish in the river
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>>161139691

The lowest score I got on a test in my college days was 5%. Scribbled some numbers with pseudo formulas and 2 Hail Mary prayers at the back of the paper just for the sake of writing something or for others, some make up some random bullshit (usually full of memes) on essay-based tests. It just happens.
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>>161141364
at least it wasn't a tiger
or a random fucking orc band

90% of the time it's pretty safe but sometimes you get some real fucky spawns in the starting town
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>>161141364
I love roguelikes for stupid imbalanced shit like this.
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>>161125726
There is one from 7RL challenge:
http://www.tndwolf.org/infection/
Barebones and piss easy after 2 level, but it's something.
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>Want to do some stabbin for mad !!!!!!!!!
>Get galvorn at 350'
Hnnnnng
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>>161140000
And done.
The energy requirement is
>m_ptr->energy_need = ENERGY_NEED() + (s16b)randint0(100)*2 - MIN(dun_level / 2,100);
Compared to
>m_ptr->energy_need = ENERGY_NEED() - (s16b)randint0(100);
When being summoned through summoning trap ( well, ancient foul curse trap ).
It should give some round or two to fuck off or defuse situation. Some monsters might roll lucky and get a turn, though, more frequently in later dungeon depths if your speed isn't up the challenge.
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>>161136160
>fungaloids are edible
I don't think I've ever died of starvation, actually.

Almost always SURPRISE HULK and such.
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>>161028087
I can actually imagine her playing it.
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>>161142450
It was more pesky when there was acid rain, no foraging, and you weren't drowning in raincoats.
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>>161142450
How are Hulks these days? Can you still punch them to death as a judo artist?
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>>161143004
Nope. Still have issues keeping low enc with up to 48 bash armor. More so now that some of the dodge and melee penalties are percentages now. Brute/hulk attacks now also have massive knockback and will happily slam you 15+ tiles through a house window and a car's windshield leaving you as a broken 126 pain, -11 stats, speed:25 soon to be dead pulp.
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Decided to kill Asmodeus, why not I guess.
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I tried CDDA a few times several years ago and could never get in to it. This new isometric tileset has really got me going though, is there a place I could download the latest compatible game version + tileset? plz help an anon get back in to good games
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>>161143004
My NPC friend smashed one with fists. Don't remember if it was a brute or a hulk though.
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>>161143447
The tilesets are included. Just get the latest experimental from http://dev.narc.ro/cataclysm/jenkins-latest/Windows/Tiles/ and select any "iso" tileset in options.
If the version has horrible bugs, wait a few days and try a newer version.
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>>161143827
Thanks mate. Hopefully it all goes well.
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>>161143216
Also, why don't hell curses go away when you beat a demon in their realm?
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>>161080270
Copy pasted into my notes, thanks.
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>>161144063
>You pick up the obsidian rune of Zot and feel its power!
>The realm of Gehenna grants you passage.
>The heat feels less oppressive.
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>>161144063
>>161146971
What would even be the point? You always leave immediately after beating the boss anyway.
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>>161147117
Found it weird from a flavor perspective.
It's also annoying when you rest afterwards (since theres another treasure room full of brimstone cunts to explore)
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>>161147117

for flavor
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>>161147201
>>161147231
>flavor
REMOVE
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>>161147694

Well, splatting seconds after getting a hell rune due to momentary euphoria resulting into a loss of focus is a flavor in itself. One that is quite salty.
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>>161093058

I don't know how long have you been here, but /rlg/ managed just right before the memekids started to show up.
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>>161117268
That version was pretty much not meant to be played at all though - it wasn't play tested at all. The README file even said the dev branch is highly reliable.

But it was good feedback. I'm relieved that stuff didn't get into a release version.

Nowadays I'm trying to keep the dev branch in a playable and balanced state though (good opportunity for feedback).
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>>161139881
Gotta spec TRAPS & DOORS spot is really good in dnd
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>>161150232
>reliable

I meant "unreliable".
>>
Thinking of buying Tales of Maj'eyal. Is it any good?
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>>161150564
It's pretty fun for what it is.
The fruitcakes around here will tell you it's shit though.
If it's on sale, go for it.
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>>161150098
I've been here since crawl 0.12
and your point isn't really valid
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>>161150564
Play it before buying it.

It can be pretty fun, but like all (100%) (literally) (male) fun roguelikes, it is also bad.
>>
So there is no practical reason to fortify your home in CDDA, since dynamic monsters don't travel far and hordes just spawn on your head anyway, right?
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ok here I go

0 Sil
1 IA
2 dynahack
3 MiBe
4 DEEE
5 GrFi
6 VSAs
7 VpEn
8 HuMo
9 reroll
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>>161152320
Dubs: Play better games
>>
>forgot to take night vision for a new character in CDDA
whelp, time for another sudoku
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>>161152737
The newest versions are playable without it.
It's still a great trait, but it gives you +2 radius instead of +5.
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>>161152630
>better roguelikes than sil, ia, dyna and dcss
no such thing baka senpai
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reminder that if you want to use a long blade you need to give up shields and get high ev to make use of riposte!
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>>161153037
Seeing only one tile in the dark is literaly suffering, especially starting in the mansion, imagening playing the rest of the game like this makes me dead inside.
I guess its time for a maid №3.
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>>161153137
But they're boring as fuck
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>>161153278
You get 3 tiles at 9 perception in the newest.
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>>161153286
1. they are the best in the genre
2. they are the least boring if at all
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>>161153454
3. haha no
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>>161153435
Well shit, I'm dead already.
I have just started anyway so its not such a big deal. Unless I get a really shitty start now.
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>>161148317
Well, at least a justification like 'the demon lord's dying curses echo through its realm, still yet ushering you out!'
>>
I'm playing NetHack 3.6.0 with DawnHack 32x32 tileset and having a great time.
What are you playing this Saturday, you meme loving fucks?
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Having nostealth actually helped me funnel all the baddies and completely fuck them with Apocalypse.

Ru is a fun god.

Power leap is a good blink alternative for a formicid.

Never really used the healing power, since in tough situations im usually more set on Apocalypse
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The game REALLY wants me to stay poison-free on this character.
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>>161154890
Woo!

Formicids are interesting to play, the emphasis on unusual means of escape is a nice change of pace in some ways.
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Nethack noob.
Is dipping things into fountains always a bad idea? I found an orcish helmet and an orcish cloak, put them on and removed them with no problem so they probably weren't cursed, right?
> dip helmet into fountain
> feel sudden chill
> dip cloak into fountain
> an endless stream of snakes pours forth!
> the water mocassin bites! the water mocassin bites! the water mocassin bites! you miss the water mocassin. the water mocassin bites! the water mocassin bites! the water mocassin bites!
> ded
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>Volcanoes are now much more dangerous, but offer better rewards

>
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>>161151180
hordes usually don't spawn right on top of you, so fortifications should help.

They won't be secure on their own, though. Any horde worth its biomass will have hulks, which can bash their way through basically anything. The problem won't be zombies spawning inside your kitchen, but zombies tearing your kitchen down around you.

Consider the time and resource cost of fortifications, and remember that at some point, the horde WILL breach through.
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jupiter hell guy seems douchey
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Is there a difference between pizza and beef jerky in terms of food value?
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>>161155397
They say that the best way to win the game is to follow the critical path.
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>>161155397
things can be "bad" without being cursed iirc
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>>161155397
If you can take them off, they definitely weren't cursed.

Main use for dipping is to remove some awful cursed thing if you're desperate. And lawful characters might find another use.
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>>161158169
Dcss? If i remember correctly, pizza gives bit more food value than beef jerky
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Undickery.
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Vegan roguelikes.

DCSS has pizza already, so anachronism is no big deal. Adding tofu would be a good idea.
>>
http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=13753.0

>Mugling is unfit to be a developer

IS IT HAPPENING???

it's not
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>>161160497
There is an option in CDDA to take meat and dairy intolerance for degenerates like you.
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>>161160497
Literally (unironically) (legitimately) my favorite /rlg/ meme
>>
>>161162478
>morality is degenerate
Get a load of this ghoul
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>>161162452
>angry retard makes a thread about (contributor x)
Why should I care
>>
>>161162682
I was nice to your bait and thats what I get, wew.
>>
reminder for degenerates that veggies also have feelings so you should just stop eating altogether and kill yourself you retards
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>>161162452
Meh, another pointless drama, happens all the time in these kind of projects.
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>trying to play DDA

What the fuck is even going on with vehicles anymore
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>>161163049
What is going on with them?
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>find boots and gloves on D1
>Robin's helmet on D2
>Grab uncle yiff's fursuit on D4
>level 5 agile

#comfyMuMo
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>>161163180
>New gear system that makes no sense and hides vital information for the sake of "realism"
>Driving at the displayed safe speed isn't actually safe anymore and will damage your engines because gears lmao
>basic engines replaced with multiple variants, all with different autism stats
>fuel efficiency got BTFO, a fully-charged solar car barely lasts long enough to make it between two cities and average cars burn through over half a tank of gasoline in two hours of driving
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>>161163526
Well shit, that sucks. Are they planning to fix it or is it "working as intended" now?
I don't mind different engines, but the rest sounds kinda bad.
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>>161150239
level 1 bards can put exactly 1 point into spot
>>
/rlg/'s Virtual Divegrass team will be playing soon on this hitbox posted here
>>161089867
>>161090796

We are playing against Animal Crossing General, which was terrible in their last game, so the odds are in our favor.

Hope to see a lot you to come out today and watch!
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>>161158169
pizza is superior
it is edible by both vegetarians and carnivores, and you can customize its toppings through your rcfile
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>>161164067
I think fuel consumption for diesel/gas is balanced to about the point where Coolthulu wants it to be, which is the best we can ask for.

Solar is still fucked, and mugling's gear autism is still alive and well.
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>>161165197
>>161163526

Go play harvest moon if you want to grind autistically
>>
>>161163526
I suspect the gear system was to be able to make something like a tractor without it either having a motorcycle engine or a sanic top speed.

And who knows, maybe two years from now it will work.
>>
>>161024078
>DCSS 0.19 Tournament is over! Congratulations to team /rlg/ for an impressive 31st place!
lul
for all those crawl experts these threads have, this sure is an impressive place
>>
>hornet on d:3
>not even OOD, just a hornet around the corner getting that free kill

Crawl is a luck-based game.
>>
>>161164067
>Are they planning to fix it or is it "working as intended" now?
It's reported on github as priority issue, so not working as intended.
>>
>>161165396
>free xp
You should be able to kill a D3 hornet, a D1 ogre and a D2 centaur even as an Op.
>>
>>161165815
excuse me u r memeing to hard. this is a ticket for excessive meme.
>>
/rlg/ about to play /acg/

google 4chancup hitbox
>>
>only one CataDDA meme on the /rlg/ team

unfortunate
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What's the best species to play if I want to use magic offensively?
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>>161166726
Which one?
And why the fuck all of them wear ToME t-shirts, is it some another perverted next-level memeing?
>>
>>161166719
It's just the qualifiers though
>>
>>161167296
>Which one?

Oat Satan
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>>161167282
Naga
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>>161143598
Probably a brute.

I've seen npc's manfight shocker brutes.
>>
>>161167282
demigod of athena
take subtle casting + personal preference (cult of personality is good)
>>
When migrating from an earlier version to the latest nightly for DDA, what all do I pull over to make sure all my defaults and options remain?
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>>161167434
What is it referencing?
>>
>>161167282
dwarves are actually quite good if you want to use metamagic because of their fatigue regeneration

orcs' spell fury is strong if you have a high wis score, but the -2 int is a pain
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>>161167907
The biggest autist since nazi nethack anon.
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>>161167282
Perhaps magic isn't for your two (2) int self.
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>>161167907
A really autistic DDA-playing anon. You'll know him when you see him

i lowkey have a crush on him though
>>
>>161167842
>backup copy
>copy things
>run to test, because it may just werk
>if it shits errors at you, check for fix: https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/19385
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>>161167842
config and template folders, I think is all.
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>>161168394
>template
Oh right. Thanks.
>>
>want to contribute to the dda git
>last time I used github was like 8 months ago
>completely forgotten how to setup repos/clones
Guess that's not happening.

>want to make all items generic by default
>then have a flavor-text mod that appends fake brands to clothes and stuff
>Long-sleeve shirt @Gape Nation, Red
>Long-sleeve shirt @Aeropustule, Green
>Dress shirt @Rolfe Laurie, White
>Dress shirt @Kennedy Collection, Navy
>Dress shirt @Kennedy Collection, Teal

>I'll never choose whether or not to execute a survivor depending on if they are /fa/ enough
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>>161169057
Add Abibas tracksuits and count me it.
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>>161169158
Tracksuits need to be in regardless otherwise my soviet tundra theme will be impossible

Also need alcohol brands to have the lexical print of their origin. Want some silly russian characters on vodka bottles.
>>
>>161169057
They already have that with the sports jerseys and baseball caps, shouldn't be too hard to slap that onto other clothes.
>>
>>161169303
I think the flavor text for potato chips says what kind of chips they are too.
>>
>>161169362
That's actually 3 different items called "potato chips", with different morale values and descriptions. Different concept.
>>
What's the best fuel source for a fire in DDA? Meaning lasts longest.

I converted a bunch of heavy sticks to charcoal but I feel like it's no longer than splintered wood and putting multiple just burns them all at the same time.

Do I have to chop down a tree and haul a log onto my fireplace for it to burn for any amount of reasonable time?
>>
>>161169914
One time I was in a lot of pain and I thought smoking weed would be a good idea. I didnt know how the game worked at the time, so I lit a match while I was on my bed.
Long story short, mansions burn for a long time.
>>
How do I repair things made of gold/silver?
>>
>>161170746
You don't.
>>
>>161170896
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>>161162452
Had a hearty kek at the second page of that topic m80.
>>
So why in the FUCK is Urug not weak to Dazzling Spray?
>>
>>161171625
I'll give you a hint.
It starts with a B.
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>>161171984
B
a
d

g
a
m
e
?
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>>161172471
Yer on the money kid.
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>>161172471
Urug has a
B
A
G
I
N
A
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>>161172620
Poor Urug.
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>>161171984
I'm not saying it. I don't want me mum to die tonight.
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>>161172856
lmao
>>
>>161151180
No. It's pretty much only for blocking Line of sight in a 3x3 around your home and for reinforcing your home when you have to fight hordes at chokes.

>>161154309
Sil. I kind of hate that deadzone of after you splat a run with gondolin you kill your next guy cause you treat orcs like shit still.

>>161163526
>>161163049
Mugling happened cause he's an autist with no sense of right or wrong

>>161164067
It'll be fixed circa 2050 cause others had to fix muglings shit last time.
>>
pan before tomb 2-3 right
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>>161175115
You can do tomb as your first rune. It depends entirely on your kit and skilling
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>>161175293
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>>161175423
Well before they put the rune lock on vaults anyway. Silence, being undead, Ru or Qazlal let you chug through the hordes
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>>161175654
okay well if you're undead it's probably pretty straightforward. I dunno I walked through hell but had to flee Tomb:2 like a bitch even with full rN

I have a bigger problem though I think. this is literally all the food I have left. ctrl f says there's some scraps deep in some branches (probably behind glass walls), but I don't think it's even worth the food to get there and back. Had to use my only two cure mute pots to take off the armor wearing debuff, and later got the *rage mutation, which makes me feel like my impending starvation is rushing at me headlong

I might have to unironically aquire a food at this point if I ever find a damn scroll
>>
>>161176254
Just go win. Shame about clarity being hard to get now.
>>
>>161176254
>f you're undead it's probably pretty straightforward
Dispel undead is a thing, you know. A very bad, very real thing.
Not to mention bennus.
>>
>>161176457
>You muckle darmed kids these days with yer bennus and your scabababs. Whatever happened to your welfare rune
>>
>>161176672
>THEY TOOK OUR GOSH DARNED RUNE!
>MY HOMETOWN'S GOSH DARNED RUNE!
>>
>>161176335
I feel like once I win, it's all over

I don't think I'm ready for that

rather die cold, miserable, and alone, surrounded by all the screeching monstrosities of the abyss, than win without having dominated every part of this cesspit
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>>161135352
>>
how do i fucking ru

just got killed by a spike frog's poison that I couldn't cure because lmaonopot
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>>161177136
>Christmas soon

We need a new image.

>>161177247
>how do i fucking ru
With your stump.
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>>161177247
>Needing pot bloat
Play a ton of demigods to break yourself of christ's stranglehold
Play a bunch of atheist humans to break yourself of your chewing Mi-Gum habit
Then play a ton of atheist mummies to achieve crawlvana

Only when your xp and threat assessment game are flawless will you be free.
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>>161024078
Ayo Arrelgee it's time for your Daily Dose.

Shut up and Awooo!
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>>161138853
>you attack the Olog
fault
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in Incursion, what is the difference between intuition telling you an item is {good} versus {magical}?
which one is better?
i thought at first that good just meant "uncursed" or "magical and uncursed", but then blessed/cursed/uncursed is a different visible quality
does magical mean like "+1" or "branded with fire" while good is just "elven" or "made of <material>"?
or is it the other way around, where magical just means +1 and good includes things like brands or skill bonuses
and then where does {excellent} come in?
>>
>>161178673
Anything in the manual on your pseudo-id?
In pcb good was plusses and excellent had an ego. But magical was just good/excellent for classes with poor pseudo-id. Maybe it has an extra step where if it has just an ego and no dice boost it's magical.
>>
So for one-handed axes, the best I can hope for is a broad axe, yeah? (DCSS)
>>
>>161178914
quoth the manual:
> The Intuition check is a standard skill check with staggered results. If the result exceeds DC 5, the character learns whether items are magical or not. If the result exceeds DC 10, the character will learn which schools of magic the item is related to. With a check result of DC 15 or higher, cursed or blessed items can be discerned from normal items.
> There is no messages for Intuition, since it takes place so frequently. Instead, the results appear in curly braces in the full name of the item, when it is seen in a pile on the floor or in the character's inventory screen.

so it mentions knowing magical vs mundane, blessed/cursed/uncursed...
but it doesn't say shit about what good or excellent mean
>>
ok i just identified 2 of the robes

the {magical} one was a Vestment of Faith +1
and the uncursed {good} one was a Vestment of Faith +2

i am still confused
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>>161179010
That the obsidian axe or Arga
>>
>knives can no longer be holstered in boots

>guns can though
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>>161179776
How so? The boot knife list is hard cased and very short. Ankle holsters are different.
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>>161177793
sounds fucking boring as shit
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I did it /rlg/. was expecting a little more than 11 royal jellies but oh well
>>
>>161180038
just go win already
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>>161180317
'no'
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>>161180317
The portal will only open when he pays the toll of 50 rations
>>
>>161179909
How so what? Boots could hold knives. Now they can't. Now they can hold handguns.
>>
>>161180956
Mugling did it!
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/18466
>>
say you used zins one-time-only mute remove power

if you switch to TSO, then back to Zin, will you be able to use it again?
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Possessors are neat.
Is there way to suppress stealing? Sometimes it is a boon, sometimes a curse...
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>>161181385
Make a wizmode char and find out. the list of commands are in &?
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>>161181456
I would but I'm kinda terrified of overwriting my run regardless of any assurances to the contrary
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>>161181391
Wielding a weapon will use that instead of any "hits" moves.

Won't help if something has a bizarre move like kicks to steal, but should for wormtongue.
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>>161181385
No, it's one time only regardless. Same goes for all the abilities like this.
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>>161181553
Then download and do it locally if you're on webtiles
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>>161181391
>your body is Minotaur
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>>161181625
aight thanks

>get fucked by mutes
>use it
>realize I picked up FOUR cure mute pots somewhere

>>161181632
I'm on local, does wizmode work on webtiles?
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>>161181809
Then just save and exit and type a different name. Locally you can have 20959020592905 characters as long as the names are different
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>>161181809
>does wizmode work on webtiles?
nay
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>>161181931
I figured as much and I believe you but I have like 11 runes and superstitious paranoia reigns.
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>>161181935
Yes, on dbro.
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>>161182048
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>>161179163
Good great excellent superior legendary unearthly in that order I believe. Degrees of how bitchin an item is.
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>>161181931
Is that an exaggeration or is there really a hard limit
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>>161182457
Exaggeration. I think I had 18 active saves at one point. You'll be fine
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>>161181391
the Pos is from PosessorBand which is most famous for adding this sweet class
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>>161182457
He's talking about all the possible names, limited by the length and acceptable symbols. For example, if the names can be only 1 symbol long, you can have only as much characters as there are symbols.
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>>161181385
pls dont type "mute" when you mean "mut"

>>161181391
if it works like leprechauns do, stealing is tied to your unarmed attack. wield a weapon and you should use that instead
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>>161182330
Heh.
Scummy mummy.
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>>161182690
>sweet class
I wouldn't play something with a 300% XP penalty.
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>>161182856
why don't you just mut me then
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>>161182330
>Cummy the Scummy Mummy Tummy

kek

still not gonna try it
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>>161183116
But the grinding for sweet loots and experience is all that makes the *bands even the least bit enjoyable
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>>161183729
yeah. And then *it breathes* and you die since you can't grind efficiently anymore.
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>>161183116
but it's all in one spot, you don't get a race penalty and a class penalty, it's just the one monsterrace penalty. It's not quite as bad as it looks.
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is it better to save armor / weapon enchanting scrolls until later, or use them on stuff you have now?
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>>161184125
>It's not quite as bad as it looks.
I'm pretty sure the race+class penalties are not handled as a sum.
I mean, if that was it a yeek monk would have something like a 200% xp penalty.
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>walk into a teleport trap blocking the way
>teleports me directly on top of the dark rune

was that intentional or just extreme happenstance?
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>>161182856
>>161181607
Well, there's something to change then. I guess I'll make option for stealing prompts, like "Use stealing attacks - yes / prompt / no".
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>>161184260
Ideally, you hold until it until you get something that's endgame tier for your build as tight skilling and good threat assessment will tide you over. But it's not that big of a deal since you can zip around pan forever dodging the lord vaults to max out your ench's

>>161184536
Extreme luck. Better sacrifice a fish to Eheketal tonight in thanks or receive twofold bad luck to even the scales.
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>>161184631
or just a prompt for whether to teleport away afterwards
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>>161184404
Most race/class combos for non-shit races end up at 200% anyway.
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>>161184780
Jesus christ the fucking system is completely flawed
I can't wait for pseudo to implement R's changes because that's just straight up retarded
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>>161184865
If you don't fix the proficiency cutoffs fast leveling is hell on your profs. Snotling tourist makes me want to kill myself.
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>>161184651
dumbass tablord that I am, I forgot to pick it up, had to tele out before I got overwhelmed by miasma, came back, killed the spider bitch, and only then got the rune

would gone back and killed her anyway desu
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>>161184865
implementing specific changes from R will be a huge pain in the ass because he doesn't put separate changes in separate commits
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So like
demigods get a 180% base +250% for zeus +160 for sorcerer/berserker

So a demigod of zeus berserker gets a grand total of 590% experience penalty.

Compared to a snotling tourist, who has the lowest possible penalty of 115%.
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Baking new bread
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>>161185269
They multiply, so a zeus demigod sorcerer is "only" 250 * 1.6 = 400% penalty.
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>>161185269
race and class penalty stack multiplicatively, not additively

also zeus REPLACES the 180% racial penalty with his 250%, he doesn't add to it
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>>161185269
They are multiplied, not added. Plus the 180% is default, replaced with the specific god penalty.

Snotling Tourist has XP req of 0.45 * 0.7 = 0.315 -> 31.5%.
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>>161185663
>65% HP modifier
>160% experience penalty

Low HP classes are rough, but sorcerers are pure hell.
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>>161185859
>>161185859
>>161185859
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Snotling monks ain't so shit, apparently.
Maybe it's the fact you level up fast and monks get a shitton of AC and hits with levels, but they're pretty strong.
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