Fate/Grand Order General - /fgog/

dead

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Xth for best archer

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Sita when?

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November was a mistake

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"Hahaha, no way. Even though Takeuchi has been piling up his [I want to draw a little girl] power, there's no way we'd release a welfare Servant with so many piled up attributes like Alter and Santa and Lily all at once~!"
A. It's already out.
"―――seriously?"
Goddammit Takeuchi
Also talks about how Nasu wanted a full-body character sprite for Titan Altera, but Wada was busy with the hell of F/GO illustrations.
"[This is probably impossible even for Arco of the Iron Arm but...] I ended up sending a proposal while distressing.
[I'm really sorry, but...] so came Wada Arco-san's reply the next day."
"I guess it was impossible after all, so I thought as I read through the mail."
[I'm really sorry, but even if its her Titan version I don't think we should give Altera big boobs. I mean, I'd love to draw big boobs, just not for Altera. huke-san's design is beautiful in its slenderness, so I'd like to maintain her body type while giving her a well-rounded feel. Specifically, by emphasizing her lap. It just has to be sitting with their knees folded (ぺたん座り) for giant girls. Or does Nasu-san prefer her sitting while holding her knees (体育座り)? Iya-,you pervert~]
[Nn, what the heck is this monster saying?]
"This is overworking no matter how you look at it.
Even while reflecting on that, Wada's comment was too persuasive.
huke-san's design was too perfect. There was not a single flaw to nitpick at.
[No matter what, we mustn't give Altera big boobs]
The scenario writer and illustrator were firmly united through this strong conviction."

He also mentions that the gacha for Christmas 2016 is evil. Very evil. So evil he added 極 in front of 悪

http://www.typemoon.org/bbb/diary/index.html#24

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Needs more Jeanne

>>160992440
So Nasu really ships Arturia and Emiya on his blog or that just was a pathetic excuse of shipperfags?

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>>160992440
>It just has to be sitting with their knees folded (ぺたん座り) for giant girls. Or does Nasu-san prefer her sitting while holding her knees (体育座り)? Iya-,you pervert~]
>[Nn, what the heck is this monster saying?]

>>160992440
Semiramis is likely then. What other evil servants that could replace her or accompany her in the gatcha?

>>160992715
Kirei.

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When?

>>160992440
>doesn't have time to design her with big boobs
>still has time to design her as a loli for just one scene

>>160992659
He shipped them on his blog but he didn't ship them in his game.

>>160992715
Obviously Medusa It's literally the best occasion to include her.

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>>160992715
>Semiramis is likely then

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>>160992816
>>160992715

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>rolling FP from xmas lottery
>tapping as usual, think every stutter is angra
>decide to stop, but do one last roll to even out FP
>tap through
>actual stutter load
>this nigger

this is because i rolled amakusa, and angra's in his interlude and you cant convince me otherwise

i now have all 3 avengers

>>160992935
Whale

>very evil
This is perfect gacha for Demon Lord Medusa

It's evil as in it's going to drain your wallet, not evil as in literally a gacha full of evil people.

You stupid fucking EoPs.

>>160993091
>drain your wallet
>when they haven't released anything in the last half a year and everybody has 400+ gems

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>>160992715
He means evil as in we'll have 2 5* in the gacha.

>>160993132
>everybody
Not everyone is a whale you know?

>>160993091
>Draining my wallet
As if

>>160993091
So, paid gacha?

>>160993185
End yourself

>>160992847
I don't care about Semiramis, I wouldn't roll for hag like her, but with Babylon near, Amakusa getting a rate up and the next gatcha being "evil", she is really likely to appear.

>>160992732
This is something I would roll for, Santa Kirei would be perfect for Christmas.

>>160993091
>wallet draining
>doesn't even have a CM like Summer or Accel Order

It's just hype from Nasu. It'll be a boring bait gacha, I guarantee it.

>>160992440
>So evil he added 極 in front of 悪
As if I know any nip.

>All the limited servants at once gacha

I'll probably roll regardless because I still haven't rolled more than 1 copy of caster gilles

>>160992810
Then post blog page and TL stupid shipperfag, or is just your delussional headcanon?

>>160993280
So loli Jeanne as a 5*?

>>160993308
>go get a blogpost 6+ months old and google translate it for me because I'm too much of a newfag to have been here when he posted it
How about you get fucked. I don't even ship, I was just telling you what Nasu does.

>>160993313
Fuck off retard

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Loli armpits.

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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60090799
I want to cum inside of her

>>160993443
Fuck off Sieg.

>>160993459
Patreon was a mistake

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Cheering Liz!

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>>160993581
>That complete flatness.

>>160993561
He'd be on enty if patreon wasn't a thing

>>160993459
I will really enjoy my Christmas present when I get it.

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So this is why her class is Rider.

I want Martha to ride me too

>>160993809
DELETOS
SAINTS ARE NOT FOR LEWD

>>160993785
Jews were a mistake

>>160992732
>Kirai servant
Who could be the HS that posses him?

>>160993785
>Enty

Fuck that thing

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>>160993581
>>160993676
Better version

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http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm30057174
Reminder that the three knight classes are the best classes.

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Shirou Lily when?

>>160993958
cringe

>>160994042
After vanilla Shirou and EMIYA alter.

>>160993876
Pope Alexander VI.
>priest (like Kirei)
>had children (Kirei had Caren)
>was against abortion (Kirei was ready to fuck over the entire world because he refused to abortAngra Mainyu)
>arguably Evil (as Kirei is)

>>160993876
Saint Nicholas

>>160994246
Is that a nipple?

>>160994246
>tfw my dick will never be that long

>>160994273
yes

>>160994246
IS THAT A FUCKING NIPPLE

>>160994273
>>160994295
It's just water

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How future-proof is RemixOS?

I mean, it doesn't use a cracked apk so it shouldn't be bannable right?

>Empire of Dirt
>Dirt
>DIRT

Not fucking Earth, Ice, Water, Air, Fire or Flames

No. Fucking DIRT.

It sounds like fucking shit.

Fate/Möbius Ring when?

>>160994471
It's named dirt because the artist doing it is trash.

>>160993379
Fuck off you delusional shipperfag

I don't like Shirou or Archer.

>>160994471
He's a Johnny Cash fan.

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Kerry Lilly when

>>160994558
Gilgamesh please

>>160994471
Stay Night wasn't a really good name either

>>160994609
I don't like Gilgamesh either.

>>160994645
Gilgamesh doesn't like himself too

>>160994696
I dislike him more than he does.

>>160993676
Her tummy looks so smooth.

>>160994741
Cu pls

>>160994471
>it's a Osiris simulation

>>160994471
Should've been Dust,but eh maybe there a reason

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Collab when?

>>160994906
Well there's that chinese emperor gender bend, the big themes about those chinese emperors are the color yellow and that represents the earth.

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I love my Lancelot.

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Nobu a CUTE.

>>160995120
That's gay

>>160992440
>feelio when not even 30 gems to roll Christmas gacha ;_;

Which servant will get interlude in Christmas?

>>160995416
Sumanai
I wish

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>>160994952

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>>160995416
Siegfried if they release Sieg
>inb4 another quartz

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>>160995416

>>160994471
And you can have it all...my empire of dirt...

>>160995628
He probably wouldn't look so creepy if he at least had some eyebrows. Seriously, where are his eyebrows?

>>160995696
BROWS OFF FOR JANNU

>>160995601
I don't get it, what's the difference between these two?
Also that dull faggot better have a fucking personality unlike Apocrypha.

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>>160995416
Illya/Kuro please DW

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>>160995696
Not creepy?

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>>160995790
Jesus.

>>160995846
Dont get close to that, Illya.

>>160995416
Gawain.

>>160995782
Seeing that art makes me wary of fully ascending my Illya now.

I like how every artist that rushed off to draw loli Jeanne Alter just made half the model up since we haven't even seen the outfit from the waist down.

>>160992440
>(体育座り)? Iya-,you pervert~]
>[Nn, what the heck is this monster saying?]
wtf i love Wada now.

>>160995873
It's okay, Gilles is into shotas. Illya needs to be wary of Carmilla, and probably also Caligula.

>>160996002
Why would that art make you wary of ascending her?

>>160996051
Why Caligula?

>>160996073
I don't like it. At least Kuro kept her proper outfit.

You know, I think i have finally found the anti Mahoyo shitposter, the memey faggot who ruins every mention of Aoko, whether it is the hair or how Scat somehow makes her redundant.
Clearly this faggot does not understand that a clone is a benefit to the source character, not a detriment.
Actually, is there more than one shitposter, cause seriously, fuck those /a/ threads.

>>160996086
Caligula was a pedo.

>>160996113
I think it's alright but I'd have liked her have something to do with SN Illya's clothes for some pottery.

>>160995770
>I don't get it, what's the difference between these two?
Siegfried=seigi no mikata
Sieg=not seigi no mikata

>>160996210
When was that said?

Is /fgog/ full of lolicons?

>>160995770
Siegfried liked to stick it in Kriemhild
Sieg in jeanne

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>>160994906
>Empire of Dust H-scenes

>>160996315
They are safe around me.
The shotas need to watch out though.

>>160996315
I don't know if full, but there are a handful of them. They probably increased in quantity after Prisma event.

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>>160996314
You mean in nasuverse? No idea. History puts him as a pedo though.

>>160996315
Only during this time when the burgers are still sleeping soundly.

>>160995067
They should name it Empire Earth.

>>160996494
>Empire Earth
I'll never get over how shit I was at that game.

Will the event launch tonight? Tomorrow?

>>160996627
Nov 30th.

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>>160996461
Best hours

>>160996627
Monday.

Will Christmas 2016 continue the trend of 16 months of bait gachas?

>>160996494
>Empire Earth

God, I played this game so much with my cousin. Fuck man, nostaligia hits hard.

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>>160996668
That's
too
long!

>>160996642
That's my birthday. Now I'll have to roll the gacha.

>>160996381
Why is Sieg such a cheating faggot?
Even though he already had a lover.

>>160996627
in 5 minutes.

>>160996816
Which lover?

>>160996869
Astolfo

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>>160996897
The only thing Sieg done right in the series is he isn't a faggot

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Soon.

>>160996897
He was only a friend for the Dragondick Jr. (Adopted)

>>160996627
News on Friday, event on Monday

>>160997093
Friday and Monday our time or their time?

>>160997187
>not being in an asian time zone
fucking burgers

>>160997213
Yeah yeah, fuck off with the timezone war shit.

>>160996775
What if the gatcha has a servant you hate?

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Would you roll a loli eggplant?
What if she had taneda voicing her?

>>160997247
don't ruin this for me

>>160997338
where are her pantsu

>>160997247
I only spent 1 ticket

>>160997228
>americans so confused by the concept of timezones it's a war to them
How do you even manage to breathe

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>>160997338

>>160997338
>Would you roll a loli eggplant?
Yes.
>What if she had taneda voicing her?
Absolutely fucking yes.

>>160996745
That's
cute.

>>160996897
Astolfo nuzzling against Sieg's lower half in his sleep means nothing; they're just friends sharing the same bed.

Who has the prettiest NP?

>>160994042
>emiya lily
but we already have chloe

ded af

>>160997849
The one that takes the shortest time.

>>160997745
>Jannu walks in on Astolfo giving Sieg a brojob
>naw its cool we are just friends

>>160998065
Go back to bullying the eggplant, Gudako.

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Good morning, /fgog/. I hope you're having a morning as wonderful as i am.

>>160998071
There's nothing wrong with skinship between fellow men.

>>160997360
Where we're going we don't need eyes pantsu senpai

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>>160998189
>skinship

>>160998174
kill yourself

Talk about something you niggers.

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I want to cuddle with my waifu and my daughteru.

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>>160997849
Balmung's beam

Has anyone used the new meta to figure out who the strongest servant is yet?

>>160997338
But Taneda is dead

>>160998597
Did you hear about that Lucius guy? Did you know he beat both Bedivere and Gawain by himself?

>>160998743
Yes, it's me.

>>160998743
Amakusa is.

>>160997849
Balmung blast.
It best looking sword 'beam" desu.

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>>160998819
New meta is same as old meta. Gil is still strongest.

I just wanna know what is Riyo's take on all this stuff

I mean, he's the only honest asshoie among those related to the game

>>160998743
Jeanne when using La Pucelle, confirmed by Nasu to be able to destroy anything and everything.

Will JDASL be really mean?

>>160999046
>Riyos take
He's constantly bitching, it's his entire comic. He even jokes about how he was bitching so much they wouldn't let him publish.

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>>160999110
>countered by Big Crunches

>>160999110
>confirmed by Nasu to be able to destroy anything and everything
>fails to do so the only time it's used
wew

>>160999183
>>160999251
She still killed him though.

Why does the Japanese folk saint have an NP that summons black holes and that's named in English?

>>160999286
???
Sieg did?

>>160999110
But can she see why the kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

>>160999286
Sieg is the one killed him.
Big Crunch cancel La Pucelle that said to be able to """""destroy"""""" any """"existence""""

>>160999353
It's not his actual Noble Phantasm, it's just crazy magic he uses in Apocrypha with his unlimited mana from the Greater Grail.

>>160999286
Didn't she just burn his ass super hard, costing him one of his arms in the process of defending the Grail?

>>160999286
He died but he wasn't destroyed or annihilated, it was pretty underwhelming.
>>160999353
His NPs are his arms which are the manifestations of all the divine miracles he performed, and so can cast every spell ever, which he then plugs into infinite mana.

Note that Amakusa did not actually ever perform any miracles, to the point where the church officially stated that he didn't.

>>160999164

well constantly bitching is the only honest thing to do when talking about this game

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>>160999445
Its supposed to looks pretty cool

Now it just a magic ballls with lame name

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>Casters charge NP fast in your party, but charge slow as enemies
>Assassins charge fast as enemies, and also crit more
>Caster ST NPs too weak to stop Soul Eaters from NP'ing
>Demons are easily the least-threatening minibosses
What if DW swapped the NP charge times for Caster and Assassin enemies?

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>>160994246

>>160999445
No, it's a NP he can only use with an outside source.

>>160999743
Thats a nice smug

>>160999704
Most Caster enemies have charge skills; they'd be able to spam non-stop with only 3 bars.

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>>160999663
I'm still sad his arms literally never appear in game. I would've much preferred them to be his ingame NP.

>>160999758
It's just a spell he can use. He wasn't famous for shooting black holes back in ancient Japan.

It's a not-NP turned into a NP, like P's sword beam.

>>160999531
He overloaded his right arm with mana and command spells to launch the black hole, and he had to cut it off to not fuck up the rest of his body.

She also damaged the grail heavily but not enough to stop it's wish granting.

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>>160999825

>>160999743
That dude has some weird anatomy. His leg looks displaced.

>>160999952
Go read his profile. It's a full on NP that he cannot naturally use.

>>160999952
>It's a not-NP turned into a NP, like P's sword beam.
His arms are real NPs, and they really let him use any magecraft without training or knowledge, he just can't do ridiculous shit like throwing black holes around without a grail pumping him mana. They just decided to give him the most impressive spells he cast with them in GO.

>>160999743
What was this guys twitter again?

>>160999743
So MC had all his body hair removed with lasers, I see.

>>160999743
>>160999976
I'm looking forward to the context of this situation.

>>160999952
Holy shit, that's even worse than I'd heard. But that evens out the playing field between him and Sieg a little more if they're both fucked up to shit at that point.

>>160992323
Looking for Nightingale's translated lines, could someone tell me what makes her a berserker? Or anything she has said

>>161000214
She's a berserker because in the Nasuverse she's a lunatic who would charge into gunfire to cure a toothache. No basis in IRL Nightingale though.

>>160999991
It's not weird, it's shit.
Just look at his other works. It's all the exact same stick figures with zero anatomy. No difference between male and female either.

>>161000038
I was talking about Big Crunch, not the arm NPs.

>>161000021
I guess I stand corrected? It does say it's an NP but it's originally just a spell in Apoc
and I feel like it's not a proper NP because it has nothing to do with his legend.

>>161000160
Shirou was one armed and probably burned from La Pucelle. He's also an incarnated human so losing the injuries are more 'real'
Sieg had infinite mana and Blasted Tree from Frankenstein, but no shapeshifter seals. He was kinda covered in scales by this point too.

I feel like Sieg had the advantage from the beginning honestly.

>>160999743
>Femdom
>Servant
>Scat

ACTIVATING THE BARBED SPEAR

>>160999704
>Caster ST NPs too weak to stop Soul Eaters from NP'ing
>he doesn't nuke them with Illya
>he doesn't spam them with Sanzou
>he doesn't crit them and spam them with NR

>>160999743
I hope there a nursing handjob scene.
Though Raiko's bad end must end pretty horrible

>>161000457
They gave up on NPs being directly from legends a while ago.

>>161000457
Wasn't Sieg about to turn into a dragon piñata at this point? I mean, this is just like sword-porcupine Shirou vs heartless Kotomine. It doesn't really matter if you're less injured when your body is giving out because of your soul shitting the bed.

Disclaimer: I'm operating on second-hand info, so anything I can learn from you is appreciated; most people left everything after Karna rather vague when speaking about the ending.

Why is it even called Fate anymore if the characters stopped having to do with legends long ago?

>>161000637
>he doesn't chain consecutive ruuru burekas to take out soul eaters

How do I beat Mordred?

>>161000739
>>161000739
Deplete her HP bar

>>161000717
Brand recognition, it brings in more shekels. Extra and Extella should have been original IPs desu

>>161000739
Kill her until she dies

>>160997454
One (You) for you, stop shitposting.

Main story rerun when?

I wonder what the long term plan for Riyo's Servants is.

>>161000789
How do I do that before she depletes mine?

>>161000739
Oneshot her with an ST Archer or NP-chained Gil with enough attack buffs and Black Grail.

>>161000862
Hit her harder than she hits you.

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>>161000717
>another costume DLC for Extella announced
Because it's prints money. All servants as lolis when?

Gil's earrings are pretty cute desu. I wonder where he bought them

>>161000717
Maybe people just like to have fun, and maybe just maybe not everyone is a mega autist like you?

>>161000810
>original Extra
>not having to do with legends

>>161000684
Disclaimer: Mine is second-hand information too, but I know a lot about Vol 5. from multiple people

As far as I know he was in a decent condition in the fight. The dragon thing only became a problem at the end when the Grail starting overloading and Shirou was already dying.

It didn't really matter if his soul was shitting out since he just cheaply ended the fight by shooting lightning at Shirou.

>>161000717
Why was it even called Fate in the first place?

>>161001131
Faito means sex in Japanese

>>161001116
That's really anticlimactic, but that's what I get for trusting the cover. 60 years of planning undone by a child shocking you into submission. Poor Amakusa-kun.

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>>161001025
This. Kancollefication is best thing happened to Nasuverse. Gacha > VNtrash

>>161001207
According to who? Nanoha?

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>>161001346

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>>161001262
sixty years of hard work ruined by a retarded homunculus, a gay trap, and a flaming saint

>>161001438
My blood boils
LITERALLY

>>161001116
I really wonder if he is going to use Dead Count or Logic Path as NP.
Because if he transform to Siegfried,then he will definitely have better sprite than the original one and I don't know how nips will take that.

>>161001928
He'll turn into Siegfried for Busters and Quicks, use Logic Path for Arts, and turn into Fafnir for his NP.

>>161001928
No idea what his NP would be.
Balmung spam and be a better Siegfried?
Blasted Tree and rip off Frankenstein?

Maybe they'll be creative and make Dead Count cool, but after Illya I have no hope.

>>161001983
Just like how we thought Illya was going to install in her animations.

Is Ahura Mazda a Ruler or Saver?

Hitting Waver with his own NP is weirdly funny.

>>161001928
He'll sword slash as animation
Np is Fafnir probably
If he isn't a welfare then his sprites will be
Before heart surgery>After heart surgery>closer to trasforming into Fafnir/Siegfried

>>161002125
Is it even summoned in a servant container?

>>161002071
No one seriously thought that when she had a perfectly functional arsenal without them. Sieg has nothing without his shapeshifting besides Logic Path.

>>161002298
Downgraded, just like Angry Manjew

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I want to see the sexiest servant.

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>>161002394

>>161002394
I haven't been added yet, sorry

>Playing Millennium War Aigis

>New events every week, which give you event units
>Plus cycled renewal events every DAY which you can still get event units from
>Getting a perfect on any mission (which is easy if you know what you're doing) gives you a gacha crystal, which means constant flow of gacha crystals due to the frequent events
>100% drop on all items first time you do a stage
>Latest update gives every player at level 10 and above a ticket for ANY NON-EVENT SIX STAR (highest rarity) UNIT OF CHOICE

Why is DW so shit compared to this?

>>161002125
If she? is counted as a Servant, probably Saver.

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>>161002394

>>161002252
>NP is Fafnir probably
This might actually be likely, never thought about it

>Before heart surgery
No way, he was tiny as hell and scrawny with glass bones and paper skin. He'd be perfect for a proper AoE welfare Saber so they won't have to come up with extra designs, same as Kuro.

>>161002303
He has sword skills from Siegfried, and Galvanism and Blasted Tree from Frankenstein.

>>161002446
Because DW actually makes money thanks to running a big IP and has therefore never experienced the problems that the little guys experience on a daily basis

>>161000637
Why NR sounds like the better deal there?

>>161002394
Impossible, Leysritt will never be in the gacha

>>161002469
He only has sword skills when he is Siegfried, and I can't see them just releasing Siegfried as a 5* and calling him Sieg. He has to transform visibly at some point, and Fafnir is suitably spectacular for an NP.

>>161001438
I love bullying him.

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>>161002394
Sure

>>161002569
I wonder if she ever got probed.

>>161002489
Aigis is run by DMM that shuts down games that don't make money though, plus it's supposedly one of their most profitable games.

>>161002549
He managed to fight Shirou in sword combat in Vol. 5, and IIRC he has the skill/memory transfer thing with Siegfried that Shirou has with EMIYA.

Like I said he'd fit as a 4* welfare. They could just pull another Kuro/Emiya and buff Siegfried after Siegs release. But the problem is that Balmung is AoE and so would Fafnir, unless it's a single target bite like he did on the grail.

>>161002809
Those little shits banned me just because I made myself have unlimited AP, never again.

>>161002809
>that shuts down games that don't make money though
Therefore they have to constantly push out new content that will make them money.

DW can just toss out a new character and people gobble it up. They're living from the Fate name and are taking full advantage of it.

>>161002850

But Shirou's complete shite in a swordfight and he only ever beat Frankie who is said to be the shittiest shit that ever shitted, and only thanks to Shakespeare giving him a C rank katana NP.

>>161002850
He will be a support-type Saber

>>161002927
Saying they're complete shit is an overstatement. They aren't amazing but they're better than some other characters in GO.

>>161002850
Siegfried needs an NP interlude first and foremost
I remember that at lv100 if he gets an NP interlude he can outdamage Lv100 Mordred vs any Arthur

>>161003014

Frankie is a Berserker so that she'd be stronger than normal and she still couldn't even scratch Mordred with a direct hit with her most powerful move and a command spell boosting her.

It's fucking pathetic.

>>161002961
No way, he's the opposite of a support. Throughout Apocrypha he got help from everyone else and stole all their NPs and screentime. Plus the only skill we know he has (Galvanism) is self buff.

>>161003071
Siegfried need some kind of tanking skill so he can have his own niche and not have Sieg be a duplicate when he comes out.

>>161003180
I was talking about Sieg and Shirou being better than you thought, not Frankenstein.

Plus, Mordred got teleported out of the way of her NP. I still think her 'sacrifice' was retarded though, she didn't accomplish anything and Mordred ended up joining them anyway.

>>161003293

Shirou's only swordplay feat is being evenly matched with Frankie. He didn't even win.

Sieg beating Shirou is the opposite of a feat.

>>161003293
What's dumb is that they leave all these hints that she can come back, and then it turns out she exists only to power up Sieg more.

>>161003401
Against Frankie, he wasn't in Servant mode. He spars with Achilles without falling behind.

>>161002505
The 5* damage dealer casters aren't particularly amazing, probably because of it. Plus, she is the only crit caster advailable.

>>161003531

>he wasn't in Servant mode

Servant mode? The fuck are you on about? He's an incarnated Servant. Servants can't just turn off their parameters.

>He spars with Achilles without falling behind.

Bullshit.

>>161003401
I'm not sure what you have against Sieg and Shirou but they have never been shown to be terrible in swordplay. If Shirou got his katana in GO then Sieg can get his untransformed sword fighting too.

Plus I'm pretty sure Shirou was holding back to not reveal his status as an incarnated servant.

>>161003419
>and then it turns out [x] exists only to power up Sieg more.

Apocrypha in a nutshell

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>he isn't using the objectively best servant that was given for free

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>>161003609
>I'm not sure what you have against Sieg
Did you really just type that

>>161003605
He had no power source until connecting to the grail, so he was peak human. That's why nobody recognizes him as a Servant until then.
>“Besides, with my Master now dead, I no longer possess any power beyond that of an ordinary human. I will not pursue the Grail.”

>>161003609

>Plus I'm pretty sure Shirou was holding back to not reveal his status as an incarnated servant.

Nothing in that chapter says or implies he was holding back. Everyone is shocked and appalled that a 'regular human' can go up against a Servant.

>>161003605
Amakusa wasn't connected to any magical source

>>161003645
>waver
but that's easy mode

>>161003667
I'm not sure what you have against Sieg's *combat ability*

>>161003761
Nothing implies he was holding back because it wasn't revealed he was a servant at that time.

>>161003768
>ignoring the almost full NP bar and 50 stars

>>161003689

Yeah I guess that's why he's so confident about going into the battlefield full of enemy Servants and mooks everywhere. Totally normal human. He doesn't at all demonstrate above-human feats like outrunning Jeanne or going toe-to-toe with an enemy Servant or anything.

>>161003689
He's a lying liar who lies, anon.

>>161003869
He's no more impressive than Kirei. Pretty sure that was the whole point of that scene. He's noted to be running just as fast or a little faster than Kirei with Illya in HF. Which is still ultra fast, but only for a human.

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The half AP for story missions is nice. I'd been sitting at Chapter 12 ever since the last half AP event.

>>161003910
The only thing he's lying about is not pursing the grail. Having no energy backing him means he has no energy backing him.

>>161003968
Waver looks like a giant next to the gorgons

>>161003959

>He's no more impressive than Kirei.

Kirei fought a Servant with a very specific strategy that focused on targeting its Master and knowing beforehand what that Servant's abilities were thanks to observing them through Lancer.

Shirou Kotomine runs right into the middle of a battlefield, not even knowing the full capabilities of Frankie, and takes her on in a direct fight, no special plan like stalling long enough to kill her Master or anything like that. No human could pull that off, not even Ciel.

>>161003609
>He didn’t fight with artistic skill and talent.Shirou’s sword technique was almost average.He was above the level of a rank‐and‐file warrior,but he was far from being a master.

>>161003605
Secondaries not even once.

>>161004138
Shirou also has a NP, which means he can actually hurt his opponent. Kirei says he could do something if he had a scripture from the church like Seven.

>>161004191
>I'm not sure what you have against Sieg and Shirou but they have never been shown to be terrible in swordplay
>never been shown to be terrible in swordplay

>He was above the level of a rank‐and‐file warrior

Thanks for proving my point.

>>161004201

>Apocrypha has two volumes translated
>expecting me to believe random bullshit like "he spars evenly with Achilles" when there's no time for either character to spar from the moment volume two ends

>>161004352
>>Apocrypha has two volumes translated
>more than a full volume of strange fake was translated in between PARTS of a chapter of Apo
Jesus fuck.

>>161004279

Being merely better than an ordinary soldier is like being the king of a pile of shit

>>161004352
What about the entire two volumes where they're just sitting on the Hanging Gardens waiting for the black side to attack?

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It's time:
http://hgwsim.tumblr.com/

>>161004352
Sieg has a Command Seal that turns him into Siegfried for a while but he starts to transform into a dragon when he uses it. That's what the other anon meant by Servant mode.

>>161004048
His younger sprites have bad scaling. Compare him to El Melloi II.

>>161004518
Fuck off.

>>161004352
About half of volume 3 is translated dude, and in current chapters the Red faction has a lot of free time.

I'm not sure about the sparring thing though. I do recall hearing about someone sparring Achilles later in the LN but I can't remember who, the only two options are Shirou and Karna.

>>161004426
You're retarded dude. My point is that he isn't bad, which you helped prove. I'm not trying to claim he's amazing.

>>161004562
No, there is nothing better to do.

>>161004624
Karna and Achilles don't ever spar if I'm remembering correctly. Achilles thinks it'd be a waste for them to fight if they weren't going all out, and them going all out could destroy the Gardens and threaten their victory in the war.

>>161004454

Right, so the instant Shirou gets the grail and all the advantage of having his entire team fully under his control and powered by the grail itself, he just fucks off and doesn't immediately finish off the completely devastated Black Team while they're down their leader, down their Lancer and Saber and Berserker, their Rider is screwing around somewhere else, they don't have their Assassin, and their base of operations is completely destroyed?

Post the fastest swordbeam.

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>>161004560

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>>161004518
Nice generator

>>161004706
No one ever said Apocrypha was good after volume two, anon.

>>161004706
Yes, they do almost nothing for a couple volumes. There's the Atalanta, Jeanne, and Jack fight, but nothing super big happens until the plane assault in the final volume.

>>161004715
Siegfried could in life spam Balmung, so I'm going with that.

>>161002394
Wait for Saber Venus to appear in the gacha.

>>161004715
Lancelot's swordbeam is so fast nobody can see it

>>161004624

>You're retarded dude. My point is that he isn't bad, which you helped prove. I'm not trying to claim he's amazing.
>You're retarded dude
>retarded

Being better than a mook is nothing when it comes to Servants. The knight classes all completely surpass human limits of skill with their specific weapon. Being above average is far from being a master, and even masters are weak shit compared to the Knight class Servants.

>>161004898
Shirou has his arm NPs, so he's not super good, but he also won't easily lose. Basically stalemate.

>>161004852
Correct!
Since the sword "gathers' energy on it's own the speed at which is can be used is overwhelmingly faster than other swordbeams, even more so if he is given the ability to "refresh" his mana after a cast to fire off another one, Hook the bastard up to a grail and watch the beams fly!

>>161004706
Pretty much, Volume 3 and 4 is Jack and Atalanta fighting the "main" gang, and Shirou spends literally 1 and a half novels inside the Grail and/or hacking it.

>>161004898
Are you telling me that Gilles de Rais was a master of the sword? That he wasn't just a little bit better than the average troop?

If he can become a Saber then Shirou's sword skills aren't that bad in the servant world.

>>161004815
The idea of swimsuit servants showing up in an actual HGW is silly to me, but I love it.

>>161004898
Queen Victoria can be a Saber. I'm not sure she ever even swung a sword even as practice fighting.

>>161005147

Jeanne got a banner that makes her literally invincible until it tears, which endures an EX rank explosion at point blank without even tearing all that much, and a suicide sword that explodes anything she wants it to (except black holes). She's constantly said to be strong and, while she only ever directly fights Shirou, she kicks his ass when it comes to skill and stats.

Gilles, her friend and one of the most prominent knights of the 100 Years War, is probably superhuman in skill, yes.

>>161004761
Waver is not a shota.

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>>161004815
This is just silly

>>161005326

Can be, but we haven't seen a Saber who isn't easily superhuman in skill yet. Nor a Lancer, nor an Archer.

I'm not saying they can't be below superhuman, but come on. Calling Shirou even close to decent is just a bad joke.

>>161005398
You are right, he is a manlet, that's worse.

>>161005362
>Gilles has a strong friend so he must be strong
She didn't have any of that stuff in life anyway, the Age of Magic had pretty much passed by then and she was just a girl with a flag.

Shirou is like a counter to Jeanne, he can bypass her Magic Resistance since he can use Holy Sacraments and if he has mana he can even block her trump card, La Pucelle.

>>161005425
Merem vs. Zelretch would eclipse all the servant battles in that war.

>>161005539

Everyone, even totally irrelevant people, gets hit with the buff stick in Nasuverse. Saying "she didn't have that in life! hurr durr" doesn't stop Servants who shouldn't be superhuman in some aspect like skill or magecraft from being so.

>>161004518
>Aoko V angry man jew at the end

>>161005425
>Zelretch
not fair, he doesn't even need a servant

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>>161005810
Well I fucked that up

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>>161004518
Uh

>>161006165
>deermud's master is stronger than him
As expected of weakest lancer

>>161005915
>Gudao
>not Fujimaru Ritsuka

>>161003645
I don't like him.

>it's a let's spam le funny generator episode

>>161006374
Better than shitposting over powerlevels or Melvin, that's for sure.

What are you thankful for?

>>161004518
https://en.shindanmaker.com/676805

Donald Trump participates in the Holy Grail War of Mongolia as the master of Assassin

The Servants participating in this war are:

Saber:Herakles
Archer:David
Lancer:Vlad III (Extra)
Rider:Saint George
Caster:Benjamin Franklin
Assassin:Stheno
Berserker:Jack the Ripper (Fake)
Extra class:None

>>161006873
Reddit

>>161006567
Anything is better without melvin around

>>161004518
President Trump participates in the Holy Grail War of Philadelphia as the master of Caster

The Servants participating in this war are:

Saber:Gilles de Rais
Archer:Artoria Pendragon
Lancer:King Arthur (Prototype)
Rider:Saint George
Caster:Morgan le Fay
Assassin:Stheno
Berserker:Frankenstein
Extra class:Amakusa Shirou Tokisada

>Arthur and Artoria and Morgan

>>161002446
>Aigis
If you're playing the nutaku version it's a censored piece of shit and you have to get multiple drops of every event unit (Which are like CE drops) for them to even be usable at times

>>161006907
(name) participates in the Holy Grail War of Lyon as the master of Lancer

The Servants participating in this war are:

Saber:Bedivere
Archer:Chloe von Einzbern
Lancer:Brynhilde
Rider:Mordred
Caster:Leonardo da Vinci
Assassin:Kiritsugu
Berserker:Frankenstein
Extra class:None

Is there anything scarier for a master than a grail war with Kiritsugu as a servant in it?

Besides maybe a grail war with Kiritsugu using himself as a servant.

>>161006907
Anon participates in the Holy Grail War of Mexico as the master of Archer

The Servants participating in this war are:

Saber:Sasaki Kojiro
Archer:Tristan
Lancer:Diarmuid
Rider:Anne Bonny and Mary Read
Caster:Charles Babbage
Assassin:Charles-Henri Sanson
Berserker:Jack the Ripper (Fake)
Extra class:None

Tristan and your average anon are probably both equally retarded when it comes to dealing with girls so I guess they'd make for a decent match.

>>161007016
I'm not an EOP faggot :^)

And the unit farming type events are fine, it's the fucking collection quests that are shit.

Stars > Unit farming > Item trade > Collection quest