/poeg/ - Path of Exile general

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First for smug lolis

>>160988807

Why is Ranger literally better at everything than all other classes? I'm at level 65 with a wand build as witch and I know this would be stronger if I had of gone Ranger.

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>>160988891

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>>160891404
>free
>>160903839
>free
>>160944493
>FREE
>>160945697
>Free
>>160945836
>Free
>>160946048
>free
>>160946171
>free
>>160951570
>free
>>160953064
>free
>>160953409
>free
>>160959946
>FREE
>>160978542
>free
>>160979286
>free
>>160984140
>FREE

>>160988936
Just because you built your character inadequately doesn't reflect on your class power level, moron

When will GGG make TRUE melee great again?

>>160988936
Really? Because I've had the opposite experience. My Ranger was absolute shit while all of my Witch characters have been overpowered as fuck.

i want to fuck the witch in her cold pussy while she runs her fingers through my hair

>>160989313
I wanna suck on her sweaty toes

>>160989243
>>160989303

I know my gear isn't great but I've got 2 Obliteration wands which are great for pack clearing I guess. I feel like I'm not getting the most out of it though. Any tips?

poeurl.com/RkT

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>>160989313
>cold pussy

When will we get more nodes for ascendance, i wanna go chieftain but tawhoa is lame

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>its a Tora pops at the end of a corridor map and asks you to go kill infected beasts at the start of the map episode

Please tell me why my ice trap build is unplayable shit

I'm not really good at this whole making my own build

http://poeurl.com/Rig

Going saboteur of course

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>>160989502
>it's daily den spawns right next to Tora episode

Crit Reave or Lacerate?
Non-crit Reave or Lacerate?

>>160989029

sauce

>tukohama's fortress
>ctrl+f totem in patch notes, nothing

and flame / flamebast totem gets even fucking better

>>160989557
Go for crit if you want to freeze shit.
www.poeurl.com/Rlf

>>160989435
Why the fuck would you need 3 curses as a wander? why do you pick mana nodes when sustaining is trivial with mana leech/Poacher's Mark?

Why did you go for some weird hybrid phys/chaos scaling? Either you go for maximum chaos scaling (added chaos, poison, void manipulation, Occultist's Void Beacon, the whole thing) or you go the crit phys/ele route with aura scaling and incidental chaos explosions to help with clear speed, not both.

You skip excellent ES clusters/notables like Written in Blood (15% ES for 2 points) or Melding (25% ES for 4 points, 40% with an Energy from Within jewel) and instead opt to go straight to the Scion ES wheel... why? You skip Coordination, an obvious 1-point wonder. Those 3 wand accuracy nodes are below average especially compared to Depth Perception which gives you accuracy and crit. Just incomprehensible pathing choices all around.

Basically your tree seems to suffer from identity crisis, some half assed chaos scaling plus half assed crit scaling is unsurprisingly going to give an underwhelming result.

>>160990673
Isn't Warlord's Mark much better for life/mana regen?

>>160990523
>making shit up
kys my man

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Is Starforge+Lacerate as shit as people say it is?

>>160989557
it's ok but 119 points is too much, 110 is level 90

but you have taken life nodes on the top which you can cut also i would not travel to void barrier not worth it imo

then you are at 109 points which is fine

>>160989994
Lacerate everytime imo

>>160990849
those life nodes would become ES thanks to jewel

>>160990625
will look into it, thanks

>>160990790
Mathil got it up to around 50-60k damage. It did well in high-tier maps, though imo it's not worth the investment.

>>160990714
Poacher's Mark is the superior wander curse, gives you accuracy, flask charges and insane sustain, WM works as a placeholder until you get leech elsewhere

I saw a good suggestion for improving Raider: Add "Refresh Frenzy Charge duration on hit" to Way of the Poacher. Yay, or nay /poeg/?

>>160991034
No, very easily abusable.

>>160991126
How?

>>160990523
Not really, the shield pretty much precludes you from going CI which is the preferred route for an Inquisitor, which is the preferred class for flameblast totems. Sure you can go BM Chieftain or whatever, but it's not going to be as good, and flameblast totems without crit is just a garbage build whether you have 2 or 3 totems up, you know?

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>>160990932
But is that with or without the totem?

>>160991296
Without.

>>160990165
NOISE

>>160991126
>>160991180
lets see what this genius comes up with

>>160991126
Oh no someone gets to run snakebites without misery how unfair.

>>160991767
8 frenzy darkray vectors easily caps dodge and gives 40+ movespeed. Typically this would be gated by momentum based frenzy generation. Perm, or even "on hit" frenzy options that do not occupy the boot slot would break them.

>>160991767
That's an obvious item to use if the buff was in place, but it's not like it would be gamebreaking. Pathfinder, Assasin and melee in general get free poison anyway.

>>160990673

I like the idea of having curses at hand because I can max out charges quite easily. Basically I wanted to run Poachers, Warlords and Proj weakness.

I thought that having good physical damage as well would help with force shaper notable. Had Coordination on my build but got rid of it on the map, so could still pick it up I guess. May as well get rid of the crit stuff though so thanks for that idea. Will probably go all in on chaos.

>>160991180
>easily stack 20 charges pre boss room
>endlessly sustain them on hit
??????
not abusable at all you're right

>>160991856
Is that even broken given the investment you need to make?

>>160991856
Dodge + movement speed is hardly OP.

>>160992082
>20 Charges
???

>endlessly sustain them on hit
As if most bosses don't die in less than 20 secs already. The only thing it would is to make Raider more competitive against Guardians, Shaper and Atziri.

>>160990625
Hmm, isn't pure crit chance better than multiplier if I just want to proc a lot of freezes?

>>160992114
>>160992139
It's not difficult or even uncommon for ranger builds to utilize 3 frenzies in tree, +1 quest, +1 boot. Raider then gets +1 more if they go slaughter. 45% movespeed+ 18 dodge. I would argue that movement speed is probably your best line of defense on an evasion based character simply because the likelihood of you surpassing 6k life is fairly low in a new league without access to kaoms heart.

In all honesty I can't truly call it broken since it can already be done by simply setting up a 3~4 link frenzy. That's actually how I keep it up on my ranger at the moment. However if I could drop that 4l frenzy, or even drop my second 6l for a kaoms heart I could get significant HP and capped block.

>>160990625
I really wish "master sapper" wasn't so far away. It's 2 additional traps placed, that's quite something. Fuck.

>>160992318
Yes and no. While you need crit chance to inflict freeze, its duration depends on the amount of damage done by said crit, and since traps have a set amount of charges with their own recharge rate, meaning you can't spam the shit out of it, it's better for your freeze to last longer than being applied more often. It's only 2 points for the missing 40% increased crit chance anyways.

Another day in DEPRESSION

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why wont GGG fix wands?

>>160994617
working as intended

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Make my build for me. Your last number corresponds to the slot.

>>160995108
EQ

>why won't GGG fix [thing that works perfectly fine]?
another retarded frogshitter contribution

>>160995108
coc

>>160995108
storm call

>>160995108
cast on death

>>160995450
retard
get fucked

>>160995108
less duration

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if i have
>zealots oath
>5% life regen
>blood rage active

am i correct in assuming that my ES will stay topped off but i will eventually just die from life degen fucking lol?

>>160995717
read ZO's description
just fucking use your eyes and your brain for half a second and READ
THE
FUCKING
DESCRIPTION
you fucking retarded slutposter

>>160992253
>20s for bosses
topkek

>>160995108
flame dash

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Alternatives to CoH and Blasphemy for curse delivery for a melee character?

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>>160995108
Three left

>>160996792
less duration

>>160996761
CwDT

>>160996792
cast while channeling

>>160996761
Vengeance

>>160996792
chance to ignite

>>160996792
blind

>>160996792
knockback

>>160996863
>>160996949
>>160997030
Obviously RNG isn't in your favour. Pick proper numbers.

>>160996761
You can like, cast them.

If you're some terrible mom build with millions of unreserved mana

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Besidies Poacher's Mark and Thief's Torment Ring what are the best ways to get Mana on Hit?

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>>160996792

>>160997738
increased critical chance

>>160997738
Elemental Equilibrium

>>160997738
added fire

does the node which says power frenzy and endurance charge shared to party members apply to summoned pets?

does your keyboard apply to google

will the passive tree be changing with the new patch?

>>160997738
increased duration

>>160998316
and then there's THIS faggot

>>160998297
There wont be any major changes according to Rory. They'll probably just change a few Ascendancy nodes.

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poeurl.com/RmJ

rate my build poeg

350% life(with jewels) scorching ray build

>>160998591
Inc dur will increase eq and sc damage output, since they will take more time to charge, more charge -> more dmg.
Fag.

>>160998657
>Berserker
>leech nodes
Wait what?

How to balance Blade Flurry (slightly):

reduce splash damage by 30%
Reduce stacks to 4
+2 stacks for merci lab enchantement

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From 1 to 100, how upset are you right now?

>>160999361
HC used to be only like 1.5% of the playerbase

>>160999361
Why would I be upset at what others play?

What kind of currency do you guys use on red maps?

>>160999717
anything that is needed

>>160999256
reduce your brain size...
oh wait...
you have no brain.

>>160998832
>he doesn't know

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>use poe.trade
>find a nicely priced item
>autoreply: this player is AFK
>never comes back

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I'm going to run a retard build but I need some input to know if I'm going full retard. It consists of a Berserker using Spectral Throw for clearing and Molten Strike for single target.

Now comes the retardation:

>I'll use two Ming's hearts (lmao 2 mings!11) for chaos resists and damage while equipping a belly to counter the reduced %life
>I'll use a two-handed mace and focus on stunning packs, links will be ST + GMP + Faster Attacks + Added Fire + Stun

For rares/bosses, I'll just use good ol' molten strike and proper support links. Will use Hatred + HoA and Blood Rage to improve deeeeps.

Review my shitty build and criticize properly. Keep in mind I'm not intending to min max or follow the meta, all I want is to run a character that hurls big-ass hammers and doesn't have a hard time late game.

tinyurl com/jt4gmdw

pls be gentle

>it's a lieutenants uber lab episode 2 days in a row

>>161000827
>tinyurl com/jt4gmdw
nice virus

>>161000859
preview.tinyurl com/jt4gmdw

Better?

>>161000859
lieutenants are a free key...?

>>161000827
Why use added fire instead of physical projectile attack damage?

>>161001047
It's tedious because you have to avoid killing any of them. Too slow and takes too much time.

>>161001059
Colour problems, I've never handled dex skills before so I don't know if I'll have any trouble doing a 4G1R belly.

Also, never did spectral throw as well. I'll check that support gem, ty m8.

>>161001154
The chance of a given socket color in an armor is influenced by it's stat requirements. Strength is red, dexterity is green and intelligence is blue.

A Belly is a STR and DEX armor, which means that getting any combination of red and greens is reasonably easy.

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this reminds me of last thread

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After trying CI for a few days and ripping to crit Rigwald, I have concluded I prefer life builds a lot more

I'm glad that's out of the way before 2.5

>>161001484
crit rigwald will fuck your life as well.

>>161001545
I don't know, I have a hunch my 7k life max block Aegis life build would have facetanked it, while I was running around like a headless chicken with 15k ES and got shredded by a wolf barrage too quick for my slow reflexes to react and hit Vaal Discipline

CI without VP leech = complete shit imho

>>161001663
>7k life max block Aegis life build
You mean 10k DPS build?

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nothing good to play for breach

>>161001934
play a catbuild

Rejoining the game a few weeks before a new league was a bad idea on my part. Everything is too expensive on Standard and there's little to no point in me starting Essence at this time

>>161002131
time to theorycraft and do nothing for 8 days like the rest of poeg

if i'm life/es hybrid

and i use a caustic mana flask (removes 15% of amt recovered from life)

does it remove from life or ES? i presume ES otherwise these flasks would instantly kill CI builds

>>161002179

I'm in standard

>>161002179
>rest of poeg
I'm making my own arpg atm!

>>161001303
Thanks lad, whenever the new league comes, I'll test if the stun gem actually does anything. If it doesn't, I'll just go added fire + physical projectile.

>>161002363
Wanna chuck me some EX so I can buy a fucking voidheart and some decent rares or maybe start a new build that can actually clear maps?

will you participate in the SSF ladder in Breach, POEG? shitcrows need not apply

>>161002464
I've got a whole 3 of them

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>league starter
>able to easily farm uber lab
>cost 1 ex or less to get to maps, 5 ex or less to get to t16 content
>preferably crit based
>preferably life or hybrid based

What build meets these requirements?

>>161002586
>ssf

"no"

>>161002971
Assassin blade flurry. Its fotm 'shit' but it fits your description perfectly.

>>161002971
>league starter
>able to easily farm uber lab
>cost 1 ex or less to get to maps, 5 ex or less to get to t16 content
>preferably crit based
>preferably life or hybrid based
Forget about the crit imo, and go Hegemony's Leap Sweeper. T16 will be a struggle though.

>>161002971
Anything assassin or inquisitor.

>>161003101
crit isnt that important. as long as it easily kills izaro it's not a big deal. i just prefer crit since it's pretty much always better damage.

>>161003068
Can it really farm uber lab easily? As in ~10 min per run?

>>161002331
If it says life, it means life, not ES.

>>161002586
Nah. I'm ready for this though:
@From SSF_Tryhard: Hi, I would like to buy your Tropical Island Map listed for 2 chaos in Hardcore Breach

Just like other items during their last event.

>>161003154
In that case definitely go Hege's Leap Sweeper. I've been using it(with only 2 5-links) and 4 key runs are a breeze.

>>161003350
OK, i will test it. I just want to make sure though, how fast does izaro die? I tried EQ juggernaut this league and while running through the traps was a breeze, I had major problems consistently killing a fully buffed izaro.

>>161003414
With a Warchief totem and Atziri + Lion's Roar he dies pretty quickly. I've never died in a fight against him.

>>161003172
faster attacks WB, life based, some life regen and a life flask lets you power through contraptions
and the damage is ridiculous, so izaro is a joke

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>life build
>under 20 ex
>can safely clear the boss room of [attached picture] in hc
What build meets these requirements?

>>160999361
i'm gonna do challenges on SC and play HC on PT's epic SSF league thingy

how upset are you?

>>161003820
every league my laptop gets closer to dying and my connection gets worse, really tempted to play sc next league

>>161002586
Without a proper league in place, there's no telling who's going to cheat or not, making the idea of a "ladder" far-fetched at best, and the previous attempt of it died within 2 weeks anyway so no thanks

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reminder that your first build in 2.5 should be able to run 95% of map mod combinations

nothing worse than vaaling a red map for the +1% atlas bonus and bricking it forever for your build

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>ggg couldn't make melee skills viable so they just turned melee skills into spells

Why didn't they just buff the damage for all melee? As we learned when searing bond used to be the best leveling skill, anything becomes viable if you add enough damage to it.

>>161004323
Numerical changes don't fix mechanically weak skills.

will lightning golem proc EE?

>>161004809
Nope, your minions don't inherit your keystones, why would your golem care whether you have EE or not? You have to apply it directly yourself

>>161004323
Point Blank for melee?
Like the further away you Lacerate/EQ you do less damage, and if you're Heavy Striking something it's 2-3xdmg?

>>161004919
how can I proc EE for a scorching ray totem build?

>>161004484
yes it fucking does. thats why i gave the searing bond example. searing bond is a terrible skill, mechanically. incredibly bad for clear speed. but with enough damage buffs it became the tier 0 leveling skill for most builds.

>>161004980
It's called Conc Effect

>>161004484
numbers definitely fix things, which is why people on standard with mirrored gear are able to play kinetic blast and frost blades and people in temp HC aren't

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I-Is blade furry gonna get nerfed on launch right?
I won't get to try it out, r-right?

>>161005278
It won't matter unless the nerf is close to 50% damage. A 20% nerf will leave the skill at T1 maybe even T0 as it is right now with BV.

>>161005031
When has Searing Bond been a top leveling skill? not for a long time, and back then it's simply because the game was slower and we didn't know better. DoT hasn't been a strong leveling kind of damage for a long time now, the closest you get to good DoT during leveling is ED and it's still going to be twice slower than a regular elemental build.

And no, numerical changes cannot override a skill mechanical power, or lack thereof; Infernal Blow is one of the strongest melee skills currently because it has a built-in Abyssal Cry-like trigger that easily one-shots map bosses with adds around, yet no one is willing to use it because of its no-range and namelocking is fucking ass.

>>161005278
why don't you just play it now

>>161005207
Consider it that way:

If a skill is mechanically good, you can numerically buff it and it becomes top tier. Imagine something like Arc with triple the damage.

If a skill is mechanically bad, you can't just dump +300% damage on it and call it a day. Make Vigilant Strike a literal 1HKO skill (hit -> monster dies) and still no one would use it over EQ, Reave, Lacerate, Meme Flurry because single target namelocking SUCKS.

>>161005015
By using anything that is ranged and deals either cold and lightning damage. Find what works best for you, the options are not few. SR can't trigger EE itself as a degen so you only need one application of EE.

>>161005730
arc-mine 2l was my best idea or vaal lightning trap

>>161004298
What

>>161005791
orb of stroms curse on hit flammabillity

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>people are actually choosing to play blade flurry over blade vortex

>>161005924
Orb of storms wont proc EE with ancestral bond I think

>>161005791
I'd use OoS since you want something to proc EO as well, but that implies you get in semi-melee range since you need to self-cast it, depends on your playstyle. It's one of the fastest spells you can cast so it definitely helps if you can afford to get close to monsters.

if i was dumb enough to play totems id play crit fb aof warchief totem inquisitor
that should be a fun build(if totems weren't so god damn clunky)

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>>161005934
>BF has better range
>CI and PF are getting BTFO in 2.5
How the hell are you going to make a BV build work without perma Vinktar?

>>161005369
IB is low key real popular.

>>161006106
what is the point of AoF in that build?

>>161005981

>>161005965

>>161006121
>CI is getting btfo

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THIS IS WHAT LIFEKEKS ACTUALLY BELIEVE!!!!!!

>>161005965
Right, you'd need some kind of trap or mine then. Lightning Trap works fine since it only has a 2s cd.

>>161005934
BV, PF, Vinktars are getting nerfed next patch.

>>161006231
to maek more ele dmg obv

>>161006258
I remember when CoC Dischargers, Bladefall trappers and LA Frost Wall babbies thought their build was safe from any nerf too, 2.4 must have come as a shock to them :^)

i actually hate ziz

he's such a shitter

gets tons of free shit from his fanboys and then dies with it

fucking retard waste of pixels

>>161006546
more importantly, he's gay

>>161006546
being jealous of more successful people than you is really unhealthy, hope you get over it

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I really hate how I can already predict the meta in 2.5 and there's nothing I can do about it if the meta skills don't appeal to me in any way, BV PF was meta in 2.4 and there was no way I was playing that cancerous build, just like there's no chance I'm going to play BF Assassin

When does the league end exactly? Is the timer showing when it ends or will the league start then but the previous league end earlier so they can prepare the new client?

will 2.5 be the patch to unleash trading for us all? to remove that paywall that is killing the game? to help us elite players realize our true potential?

of course it won't because chris wilson sucks dick for money

>>161006612
bet he's not even real gay, just pretend-gay for the attention. absolute disgrace
>>161006631
he's the worst fucking player i've ever seen in my life

>>161004323
When you consider this game now has way more monsters than it used to, while also having several mechanics that are far more punishing to those that must be close, coupled with no significant damage mitigation tools for melee characters, the verdict is clear: Melee is a joke.

A melee character must spec into high amounts of life, while also investing into block, evasion, armour, dodge, endurance charges, fortify and curses, only to survive three blows instead of two.

Meanwhile, a ranged character can invest about 1/3 of what a melee character would for defense, and will still outperform melee because being far away offers the best defense and offense in this game. Coincidentally, the best melee skills are those where you're hitting things from afar, like Reave, EQ, Lacerate, etc.

There are some possible fixes for this issue, such as making two-handed weapons having an implicit "melee splash" effect, adding life/defense to melee-only nodes in the tree, reworking the armor formula and increasing life nodes a little, etc. Melee should be able to endure some punishment for being close to enemies, but apparently, late game content is designed around you being far away and having a massive life pool (which is only obtainable if you take the ES route), gimping Melee.

Yes, you can make life-based melee work late game, but it takes way more effort than an ES-based caster/ranger. Hell, you can easily afford an 800ES regalia, and there are several ascendancies that give you increased ES and flat ES. Life gets jack shit, melee gets jack shit.

Either GGG is completely oblivious to what Melee needs to be viable (considering the massive 6% damage buffs to old melee skills), or they're taking too long to implement the fixes, which will be even more detrimental to melee as a whole since they're adding more and more end-game content focused for ES ranged characters only.

>>161006974
Essence ends in 2-3 days

a few days of downtime where there's nothing going on and you can bitch about your league tabs merging with standard ones

then patch notes

then 2.5

>>161005567
>1HKO vigilant strike
>RT with 1H sword/lots of attack speed
>slayer
>melee splash and aoe

i think people would be playing this at the start of every league and probably until the end

>>161007114
>Either GGG is completely oblivious

They are oblivious. In the last lioneye's podcast, the dev said that ggg still considers ci to be worse than life. They also said they considered improving melee by adding splash to everything and chose not to.

Based on the wording, would you guys say that the new Formless Inferno helmets "Armour is increased by Uncapped Fire Resistance" mod is local or global?

>>161006974
29th 10AM NZT

>>161007206
>Life gets jack shit
>block, evasion, armour, dodge, endurance charges, fortify

>melee gets jack shit.
>fortify

You're contradicting yourself. Yes even casters can get Fortify linked to WB/SC but if we're being real for a moment, it's not going to have the 100% uptime you get as melee.

>>161007297
Global. If it were local, it'd say "Armour rating".

>>161007268
>the dev said that ggg still considers ci to be worse than life
Technically 1 ES is worse than 1 HP.
ES does have cons but workarounds are so easily available it doesn't matter much anymore.

>>161007643
Ah, of course, thanks. Looks like a pretty nice helmet then, even with the resist penalties and no life.

>>161007656
actually 1es is better than 1hp
2hp is better than 2es

>>161007556
>Life gets jack shit, melee gets jack shit

this is within the context of ascendancies, please pay attention. ES-based builds can get FREE ES from speccing a good ascendancy class but life can't

>>161007752
What about 3?

>>161007837
from 2 to infinity hp is better

>>161007752
would you rather have 1 ES or 1 HP

94% of people surveyed got this wrong. the correct answer can save your life

>>161007656
>ES does have cons but workarounds are so easily available it doesn't matter much anymore.
If you're not Pathfinder, you have to worry about constant chill, freeze, shocks, and ignite stops your ES regen so you want a flask of dousing too. Stun forces you to either use Chayula or Valyrium, putting you in an awkward position if you want to get +1 curse. You're extremely reliant on gear so you can't just swap things around if it means you lose 2k ES in the process.

>>161008017
status ailments are very easily dealt with via flasks and losing a ring or amulet is not a tremendous loss. you can even use a flask for this or forego stun avoidance completely, depending on your build. builds like BV absolutely need to avoid stuns but lots of others don't

>>160997293
joolz

>Can't wait to play Breach for a top end of a month, get 40/40 and quit

what do you guys do when not playing PoE

>>161007794
Technically Chieftain gets +10% increased STR which translates to flat life.

Just because no ascendancies gives flat life otherwise doesn't mean they don't get defensive perks that far outweigh +100-250 flat ES. Perma fortify, 100% block to spell block, +2 max res or easily maintained 8 endurance charges, immunity to status ailments and bleeding to name a few.

Even in the context of ascendancies, I don't agree ES ones get the better end of the stick, it's actually quite balanced.

>>161008380
I play PoE 12 months a year desu

The dev said es is "technically" worse than life. There are mechanics which exist for life which don't exist for ES. He made the point that every ES keystone they added bridged the gap a little. ER lets you leech ES. ZO lets you regen it. That kind of thing.

1-4 chips
5-9 noodles
0 think about it more

>>161007738
Yeah, it finally gives a reason to overcap resistances. A nice 40 fire res ring suddenly becomes 40% increased armour too. There's a practical limit though, stacking armour is kinda pointless past a point except in Aegis builds and you want to use hybrid ar/es or eva/es bases for those.

>>161008473
>perma fortify
Irrelevant when getting 100% uptime on fortify is easy. Only great for ranged builds that can't otherwise get it

>100% block to spell block
>block builds

>+2 max res
Elementalist and Inquisitor both have mechanics like this, though not as strong as Jugg's

>immunity to status ailments and bleeding
Press a flask

>>161008814
Only 3 ascendancies give you ES: Occultist, Trickster and Guardian. (Technically Hierophant gets ES scaling from mana too but since it's bundled with a MoM node, I don't consider it relevant for actual ES builds.)

If you compare those to the others from a defensive viewpoint, they don't have anything special or stronger than other ascendancies. Occultist gets Wicked Ward, Trickster gets Shade Form, Guardian is Guardian. They'd probably be too weak without the flat ES to compensate actually.

>>161008728
uhh
it's "uncapped"
not "overcapped"
the fuck u on
the helm is vendor shit

Can't decide on what to play, but probably gonna start out with something Blade Flurry related for my first character.
Either;
Gladiator (max block, loadsa armor, therefore potential for Aegis when I get some currency. New fire helmet looks nice for this. Also Bloodsplosions)
Trickster/Assassin (evasion/dodge defense with crit and stuff. Defensive or Offensive ascendancy. Havent played ev/dodge in ages)
Necromancer (Scourge meme build, just have to hope they're recently priced early on, probably not)
What do?

you know in retrospect it's probably a good thing that BV will get some kind of nerf next league. I crippled myself with carpal tunnel and BV is one of the builds that I can play using just one hand.

if they don't nerf BV into the ground i swear to god

>>161009197
It means your fire resistance without the cap, so it's not either of those. The wording could be better.

There is a GGG post about it somewhere, but I couldn't find it in a quick search.

>>161009158
Actually tried out a Hierophant build without EB. Hybrid life/es, worked pretty good even though the MoM doesnt kick in until ES is gone. 7k or so ES with ZO before life takes damage, then 40% reduction on anything on your 4k or so life. Chaos was the only problem at all, and I potted through that without any trouble. Not the best defenses, but was fun.

>>161009197
There's no real reason to go over 135 base res + whatever is needed to counteract map elemental weakness. With that helmet, there will be since every 1% of fire res overcapped that is otherwise useless is turned into global 1% armour. The helmet uses uncapped fire res, meaning your overcapped res actually counts for something here, e.g. 250% uncapped fire res = 250% armour.

>>161009689
uncapped = 135-fire res
overcapped = fire res-135

>>161009506
Maximum stacks is now 10
Damage buffed by 67% to compensate

>>161009506
Lets be real how many leagues went by when bladefall mine occultists were #1...

And afaik they didn't even touch the dmg on that monster they just hit it with a QoL nerf.

I wouldn't expect much more than a love tap for BV

>>161009578
Hierophant as a whole is just poorly designed imo, your approach wasn't bad, it's just you have this ES buffer, and then a smaller life buffer that gets splits to mana, but chaos degen bypasses the entire defense, it's just awkward af to do this balancing act when you could just get 10k life or 10k es or a regular 60/40 MoM build

>>161009764
Always pick the defensive class especially if the skills scales well with little to no investment

Necro could work but you won't see a Scourge at a reasonable price until week 3 at least in BHC, and since it's buidl-enabling you have a useless character until you actually get your weapon, poor choice for a first character

>>161009689
It seems like it'd be extremely effective when playing with a guardian running high aura effect Purity of elements/fire + grace/determinition (assuming IR on the affected character), combined with the flat armour from reserved life. Or maybe even on such a guardian, though Alphas or a high ES helm would likely be more preferred.

>>161010091
mean to quote >>161009202

>>161009521
Yeah that is an item that you really need the expanded tooltip for because the wording could mean almost anything.

>>161009883
>And afaik they didn't even touch the dmg
What? they removed poison double dipping from traps/mines, it's complete ass compared to other top builds now. You'd be better off playing self-cast Bladefall

How are they going to handle essences this league, /poeg/? I wanted to do a build focused around that 1000 chaos damage essence.

>>161009948
Yeah, but it worked quite well for protecting my life from anything non-chaos (with ZO on ES there's always a little ES between hits, then the rest of the damage first gets split to mana). Chaos was okay with 40% positive chaos res. But only played that character up to mid-tier maps to try out the concept, never really invested much time into trying it out in higher content.

>>161009883
bladefall mine occultist was only a boss build, pf bv can be anything

>>161010316
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1770578
Essences will be 6 times rarer, this is balanced by the lower tiers not appearing in maps anymore, but the corrupted ones will still be rarer and Decay is getting nerfed

>>161008380
shitpost on /pol/ and watch anime

>>161009506
BV is fine.

The problem is abritrary uptime on Vinktars letting you facetank everything that doesn't one shot you.

>>161010492
>Decay nerfed
Fucking jews ruining my fun.

All right, another question: Is it worthwhile to run elemental spells if you aren't stacking crit?

>>160999361
by my estimations, poeg is 10/90 hc/sc, just more evidence reddit is more hardcore than poeg

>>161010576
non crit flameblast 1 shots bosses
go figure

>>161010556
BV occultists and necromancers have killed shaper with ease, too. It's not just vinktars

>>161010492
>Essences will be 6 times rarer, this is balanced by the lower tiers not appearing in maps anymore

I can definitely live with this. GGG actually did something right for once.

>>161010294
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5dothk/25_announcement_with_new_league_info/da6b5qn/

Developers love Reddit, so it cant be helped.

>>161010730
>hey team this skill can do end game content
>HOW DARE IT

>>161010091
Yeah, figured scourge necro could be fun, tried a BV necro with Aegis and going down to IR to run grace/deter to create a tanky melee caster, the same concept should be possible with normal "melee". BOs life on block + AAs ES on block was fun (had around 20k armour, 5k ES and 4k life when I played it up to lvl 80 or something). Minion damage from the ascendancy + the claw was enough to spec out of any other damage on the tree when I started using the claw.
Might try that with flurry a little later into the league.

>>161010874
shaper should be fucking hard

>>161010843
Oh wow that's way better than I was expecting.

>>161010874
Stop being intentionally dense, any build that can facetank a Shaper beam designed not to be facetanked needs a serious tweak in terms of power

Do you think GGG should add anti-face tank mechanics to some endgame bosses?

IE shapers beam after a short delay starts adding a stacking debuff that makes you take more dmg?

I find it silly how easy it is to leech through that beams degen

>>161011167
Leech was a mistake desu
Turns the whole tactical arpg into a babby numbers game

>>161011259
yeah, tha'ts basicly what I'm saying

>>161010962
>>161011124
then advocate to make shaper harder?

do you guys realize shaper has only 3 or 4 mechanics? and that they're all very predictable? the only thing that changes between builds is how much time it takes to kill him

but no the answer to everyone's problems is make skills hit less and bosses hit harder NOW THAT'S DIFFICULTY RIGHT THERE

>>161011038
Combined with 8% phys taken as fire and high base armour it seems quite fucking good, yeah. Totally gonna play armour/aegis this league, hope the upgrade essence won't be too insanely rare and expensive.

>>161011406
making shaper harder would just serve to lock several weaker builds out of the content while leaving it doable for better players on BV

there is no reason to balance content around skills and not skills around content

>>161011406
>the only thing that changes between builds is how much time it takes to kill him
Wrong, unlike a fight like Atziri, you're also racing against time since in 3rd phase the entire arena quickly fills with more vortexes you can deal with, meaning you will NOT be able to beat Shaper with some shitty 20k dps build that needs to kite vortexes, go back, dps, avoid the beam, go back, dps, kite more vortexes, etc. even if you skillfully avoid everything.

An instant leech build that can allow yourself to just plant your feet and do nothing but DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS lol vortex I outleech that too DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS and completely disregarding area denial mechanics is just plain stupid.

Shaper fight is fine. Just don't allow not-tankable things to be tankable otherwise why bother designing any mechanics if VP leech gets a free pass?

If I stack Fortify increased effect % nodes does it calculate them all from the base 20% or does it roll them one by one so additional inc effects are stacking from a new base?

>>161012921
they're additive, not multiplicative

Are they really nerfing BV into the ground? never played it before but thought I'd give it a try in breach just to try it out.

>>161010903
>>161011510
I'm fucking doing it, I'm going scourge necro IR AA with that new helmet and grace/determination as soon as I've got the currency for it.
r8 tree. A little starved on mana and dex, hopefully fixable from gear, but I think Revelry (mana on hit) by the duelist might help with the channel cost. This is with Anvil in mind (71 block with lvl20 BO, so at max with anvil), could switch armour for block at marauder if I go for the spell block amu.
http://www.poeplanner.com/AAMAATxBQU1EQXpzQWM5LUs2UUpMcmhzbDJWdHRHWmYwVWxNOVg1ZVZUTE1FQjRQYlZjWTZXS3lZOTllYm9ZOUdIUlQ2MGhjdlpPZFYxb0NrRm1famFtYWV0ekdNZHV3NGdwdWFPNV9mNzN3OEJjQm1CTE9pQVBBZmFQSTYyQ2N2a0ZVYU9BR1JMZExrVVZCSDd3NFVJRjhfR2o3eUw1N05wekNmeXdIbk51Z2FWV0VoaE9fYXdYVHRCUzE2NzBDZ0lXQjA4U21sUko1VHU2THFFdUZpN0xhS0w4ekJnb1RaUjM2OU5tVk52cWR5cWZjeWZObnFHSGFzejM2dGpkbGhWdzF5RDZ5cVdmT1diSkhPdS0zU0lmSkJnZ2ZaZkh5NEtTN3hyRVBuT2QyYmlyNVBGU2VNc1VpT0RlTHNnOU9QAAhBQUFBQVFBQQAA

>just 8 days left
>cospri's malice drops
welp

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PoE's 5 stages of grief:

>Denial
GGG cares about me, they will stop catering to casuals and make PoE hardcore again.

>Anger
How can this be! I'm entitled to more than this!

>Bargaining
Okay fine, do what you want but can I at least get premium tabs for free?

>Depression
Nothing is going to get better. Why even bother?

>Acceptance
At least it's better than D3.

>>161013832
I gave birth to twin wire hangovers
Now I am a personal space invader
I’ve got essays, I’ve got finals due
I have got lots and lots of problems

Lookout
Lookout
Lookout
Lookout

How can you put that straw up your nose
When you know how coke is manufactured?
It’s made by children for the immature
It’s made by babies who’ve been captured
It’s a sin against your fellow man
It’s a sin against your fellow man

Welcome to this world have as much fun as you would like
While helping others have as much fun as you’re having
Be kind to those you love
And be kind to those you don’t
But for God’s sake you gotta be kind
And respectful because we’re all one soul
Be the best fucking human that you can be

>>161013832
we should've jumped ship when kripp chose the superior game

>>161013542
>Are they really nerfing BV into the ground?
No. It might be slightly nerfed, or related things like PF or Vinktar might be touched more severely but it'll most likely retain most of its power.

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>>161014123
>kripp chose the superior game

>rejuvenation totem still exists
holy fuck

>this general still exists
holy fuck

>>161015031
>>161015230
retards

What build are you all doing for next league?

The Cast while Channeling support sounds interesting, but I don't know what would be good with it.

>>161015396
BF - CwC - Bladefall - Blade Vortex - Inc AoE/Conc - Poison

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>>161014214
Who even gives a shit about BV anymore when BF exists and won't get nerfed meaningfully for several seasons?

>>161015396
Isn't cast when channeling just a /poeg/ meme?

>>161015539
>BF exists and won't get nerfed meaningfully for several seasons?
they released it before 2.5 for a reason

>>161015569
no, it was actually confirmed by rory on lioneye's watch. plebbit actually picked it up before us

>>161013685
Oh and I'd probably cut 4 points somewhere for dual curse as well. Also noticed I can take Unnatural calm.
Anyway, my armour with just the pieces I know should be 800 (endless Inferno) +400 (Aegis) + 2800 (grace, 13% aura effect) all runded down. So around 4k base, x4 (200% tree, 100% assuming only 100 fire res, easily increased further) = 16000, then x1,5 (determination) = 24k, before any other gear. Meaning I could go full ES stuff on the rest if I felt like it, or just go for hybrid stuff of any variant due to IR.
Damage should be at 160% minion (necro+scourge proc) to any damage type, 20% commander of darkness, 40% when corpse-eating, 50% area damage. So 270% increased to all damage types. Then 90% melee phys + ~60 from base str, around 420% in total to phys dmg, a little less to other types.
Very low on attackspeed, but at least I can use flesh offering for clearing.
Does this seem okay?

>>161015539
bf is 100% getting nerfed before the next season

cast while channeling?
the fuck does it do? incinerate discharge inc?

>>161015609
Yeah, I agree. Usually they aren't quick to nerf a skill strictly because they don't like to interfere with leagues once they have started. Now they can nerf it quickly without issue.

It casts a socketed spell every (0.8 to 0.6)s while channeling.

>>161015901
It casts linked spells with a 0.6s cooldown.
>incinerate discharge inc?
Not really, as above, there's still a 0.6s cd so using a fast spell like incinerate is somewhat pointless except for building charges I guess and Discharge still gets a damage penalty when triggered.

>>161015991
but that's dogshit
why not just get some cast speed instead?

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>>161015609
>>161015864
Hence the "meaningfully" part, familia.

>>161013685
>poeplanner
for some reason copypasting this into the offline planner nets me an error popup and i'm not sure why people insist on using that awful site anyway

>>161016141
It's just something I had up at the moment, and couldn't be arsed opening some other site or program.

>>161016051
it's getting nerfed bigly

>>161016290
[citation needed]

>>161016290
Eh, I don't believe that will happen. GGG is receiving a lot of praise for Blade Flurry while at the same time it is admittedly over-tuned. I think GGG wants players to be satisfied with it, at least for a full league before they hit it harder with bigger nerfs.

I instead see a fairly small nerf incoming, and hopefully, sizable buffs to Blight and Scorching Ray.

>>161016287
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Am I the only one who noticed that Act 1 & 2 have really bad enemy variety? Especially in the dungeon areas.

They should revisit those acts and add some new enemy types. Maybe like troll enemies or a new type of Vaal construct that isn't a reskin of another enemy.

>>161016396
chris is my mom's husband

>>161017603
chris is my dad, fgt

>>161015743
The more I look at it, it feels like The Scourge has a little too low damage to be very effective even with a lot of increases. I'd use added chaos, but perhaps it's be better if redesigned around added elemental damage as well, but I'd have to cut one of the armour auras to get any from heralds or anger/wrath, which would end up ruining the base concept of a high armour AA+Bone offering character. Anyone got any ideas?

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i think i'll play the SSF ladder this league poeg

projectpt is hella based and also he's our guy

>>161018181
how are you gonna buy you're challenges if you play SSF catshitter?

>>161018252
i'm not a shitter

>>161013892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I18eoTqx8xY
based

>>161018685
t. shitter

Thoughts on Cospri's? Most relevant bosses are curse immune I imagine so it's prob shit

hey poeg happy thanksgiving :)

>>161019439
>same prices as kaom's
yeah it's probably shit

>>161019787
fuck off turdbird

>>161019787
fuck, off

>>161019787
I appreciate it

nice general poetards

yeah its almost as bad as your post

>>161020291
xD

>>161010602
>10/90
you have it backwards

shitcrows are NOT allowed in poeg!

new bow skills pls chris

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more lolis pls chris

more mtx pls chris

>>161020623
I can be part of the 10%, right?

I miss musicposter.

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>>161020983
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rXYMBEW3D9s

>>161020000
nice quads

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>pick all life nodes on the left side of the tree
>152%

>>161022278
do you know which way left is?

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>>161022383
FUCK

>>161022383
>not self-inserting as the passive tree
get a load of this pleb

>>161022607
>0.75s cd
it's shit

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>>161022383
Wait.. you don't plan your skill trees upside down?

>>161022607
>it's a less multiplier
FUCK CHRIS
>>161022694
it scales with level

>>161022607
i dont get it at all
almost sounds like i could link 5 spells on it and they'd all go off if i channel some channeled master-skill

>>161022765
4 spells

>>161022765
>while channeling supported skills

ur dum

>>161022765
Could be visually interesting

>>161022745
>it scales with level
How much does it drop?

>>161022607
blade flurry cwc coc bladefall blade vortex ek

so wait
incinerate discharge is reality now?
the fuck

kingsguard romiras volls devotion and it's like playing mjolner?

>>161022883
it scales down to .66 at level 10, so presumably down to 0.55 if you get a 21/20 one.

>>161023915
Might be ok.

>>161017175
Wish we could just start mapping outright, desu. I'm curious to try some new things this league but the prospect of going through every act again is killing my interest.

>inb4 some fat fuck spergs at me stating that leveling is fast and getting to maps takes a few hours at most

It doesn't mean it isn't boring as fuck.

My ideal solution would be you can start a character at max level/1.5 from that league. If I leveled a character to 90, I start at 60 and can nearly go straight to mapping.

>>161026919
git gud

>>161026325
IT TAKES A COUPLE HOURS TO GET TO MAPS AT THE MOST ALSO THE GRIND IS FUN ARE YOU RETARDED

>>161027086
>the grind to maps is fun
>4+ hours to get to them
kys

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our guy posted this

>>161027086
>play the same content for 6 hours every time you want to try a different character
wew laddy

challenges when lads

>>161027510
lol if it takes 6 hours for anything but your first character in a league

>>161027225
"A couple" is generally 2.

Can you use a gemcutter's on a corrupted gem? Does it work? Don't want to waste one trying to experiment.

>>161028518
no
you cant use any orbs on a corrupted item

>>161028462
show us where you reach merc act 4 and get the last free point under 2 hours

>>161028748
I don't.
Never said I do.

>hardcucks are so in love with wasting their time they actually defend leveling

>>161028997
>buttbirds are so obsessed with being shit they spend their time playing shitcore

I can just imagine a documentary narrated by David Attenborough about the nature of hardcucks. When faced with the truth about their pasttime, they degrade to repeating the word shit repeatedly

flame surge + scorching ray chieftain, who else is hype?

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>>161029968
sounds terrible

go for it

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>>161029968
Why would you lower your dps trying to work in flame surge?

>>161030731
>>161030767
flame surge is fun and i like bad builds

>>160990165
https://hitomi.la/galleries/907853.html

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>incin cwc discharge with romiras
could you get enough power charges from romiras + incin to proc max discharges poeg

how would you calculate the maths

incin has .20 base cast time, so that's 5 power charges a second. you'd have to get that down to to .10 cast time to get enough power charges between each cwc proc

20q lvl21 faster casting is 50% increased cast speed, so that would work right? i think that would lower incins cast time to .10 if my maths are correct

Does incinerate actually hit to gen charges with romira's?

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How much of a damage boost does this node actually provide? Is it just a meme? I don't even know what base monster resistances are, so I have no perspective on how much this increases your critical damage.

>>161032295
against enemies you aren't already oneshotting it's huge. more than double the net damage, when you factor in being able to socket another support over a pen gem.

>>161032380
>against enemies you aren't already oneshotting

What does that mean though? Is this node only useful on +% monster resist map mods or something?

Is base monster resistance more than 0%?

>>161032295
it allows you to swap a penetration gem for a bigger damage support gem and lets you ignore resistance map mods

that alone is a massive buff

Pls let there be balance change patchnotes this weekend.
I finally want to know what I'll be playing this league ._.

>>161033261
stop being so entitled

this is a free game after all

if you don't like it, go play a different free game that's more fun than poe

>>161033390
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>>161033756
FREE
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